1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: Welcome in, Happy Wednesday morning to you. Hey, Happy new Year. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: Right around the corner last day at twenty twenty five, 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: gotta go out with a bang over here. Hey, ever 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: wanted to try an Olympic and Paralympic sport and maybe 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: this is the way you go out with the bank. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Try fencing. It's fast, safe and easy to start. Find 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: a beginner class near you at us fencing dot org 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: slash try fencing. That is US fencing dot org slash 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: try fencing. I'll tell you what if one of my 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: friends was like, man, I've been in a rut in 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Huh you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: change it up. I'm gonna try fencing in twenty twenty six. 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let's go, man, let's go time 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: over here, uh Jmart. 16 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: By the way, we're not talking about fencing TVs. We're 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: talking about the Olympic sport. 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: That's right, that's absolutely right. I'm gonna get to AFC 19 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: trust in just a minute, right. 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Is the theme of the first hour, it's kind of 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: the theme of the second. It's the theme of the 23 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: show Man. We're talking Yeah, that's right. But you had 24 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: a question that we didn't get to last second. So 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: let's let's tie off. Let's let's get that Uh, let's 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: check that box real quick and then. 27 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: We'll move on. 28 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an NFL question. Okay, Well, we hosted 29 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: I think it was Thanksgiving when we hosted, and this 30 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: came up. You called the Bears frauds. You didn't forget, 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 3: you said they were you said they were foogazy. Yeah, 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: and you made a good case, right with the schedule 33 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: and uh, the way they've won late, close games and 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff. 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 4: I was just curious. And this isn't me calling you out. 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: I literally want to know if your take, if that 37 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: take has evolved based on what you've seen in the 38 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: last month, or if you're still side eyeing them a bit. 39 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: And this is kind of a trust question too, because 40 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: obviously they've won a lot of games, they played a 41 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 3: Game of the Year contender on Sunday Night Football. 42 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 4: Clearly they're better than they were last year. I'm not 43 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 4: even asking that question. 44 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: I'm just what, how are you feeling about the Bears now, 45 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: now that you've gotten a little bit more time to 46 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: watch them? 47 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: I still feel the same way about Okay, I'll put 48 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: it this way. I like their offense even more, and 49 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: I dislike their defense even more. 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Okay, and I think that's gonna be their undoing. 51 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: You know, like, you can't, bro, you can't score thirty 52 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: eight points in a game and lose. Can't happen, And 53 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: it just did on the road against the forty nine ers. 54 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: You can't try. You can't have your offense. Hey guys, 55 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: you've scored thirty eight points. We're gonna need one more 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: touchdown though to win. It's like, bro, come on, defense, 57 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: you gotta do better than this. And they started off 58 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: the game with the pick six. They started up first 59 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: play of the game. They're up seven to nothing, and 60 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: they still gave up forty two points. Their defense cannot 61 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: stay above water without forcing turnover after turnover after turnover. 62 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: I don't trust their defense at all, Man, And you 63 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: can't walk into the playoffs, even though it's wide open 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: this year, it's not as wide open in the NFC, 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: I don't think. And you just can't play no defense 66 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: and expect to go anywhere. So no, I think they're 67 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: total fools, gold Man. I don't think alright. 68 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: I was just curious if you had changed it all. 69 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: Like I said, it wasn't like a call out thing. 70 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, because I mean, obviously they've won games. I 71 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: literally just wanted to know how you felt about them 72 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: right now because we're so close to the end of 73 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: the regular season. 74 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: How about you, what do you think of the Bears? 75 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: I just think you call it fool's gold. I call 76 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: it house money right now. Yeah, I understand. 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: I don't believe in championship windows because things can change 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: on a dime. And what you're seeing this year, especially 79 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: with the Bears winning so many close games, is not 80 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: something that generally translates year after year after year. But 81 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: this is better than any Bears fan could have possibly 82 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: hoped already. 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: Like Williams, no doubt for real. 84 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: I mean, but like Caleb Williams was broken last year, right. 85 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: There were people talking about him being a bust. 86 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about Jayden Daniels and all this, and like, 87 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: all he's done is come back and been a whole 88 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: lot more like the Caleb that you liked in college. 89 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: He's still yeah, there's some thing where you still want 90 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: to see him be more consistent, but he's doing less 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: of the stuff that used to truly irritate you holding 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: the ball too long and some of the things that 93 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: he was doing. He's being smarter with the ball. He's 94 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: got a decent chemistry, I think with his receivers. And look, 95 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 3: I mean considering what the Lions were and then you 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: take their OC and you're sitting there about to win 97 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: that division, which coming into the year was maybe going 98 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: to be the most competitive division in football, even though 99 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: you didn't know what you were gonna get with JJ McCarthy. 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: In year one. You know what O'Connell is as a coach, 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 4: and you know what kind. 102 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: Of weapons they had on that team. The Packers, even 103 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: though I've never been a giant Jordan love guy Lafleur's 104 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: done a lot of really good things there. You then 105 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: go get Micah Parsons at the trade deadline, and then 106 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: the Lions were my pick in the NFC to go 107 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: face the Ravens in the super Bowl, and it's the 108 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: freaking Chicago Bears. They're gonna win that division before. They 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: don't even have to do anything this week to win that. 110 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: It's incredible to me. 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is wild how it went down. And listen, 112 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: the Bears are well ahead of schedule. They've done a 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: lot of great things, but man, you just you gotta 114 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: be realistic about what's gonna happen in the playoffs when 115 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: they don't play defense. They've won six games with come 116 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: from behind wins in the final two minutes. 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. 118 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy, and that's great. Hats off to them. 119 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: They've done it with some great play They've done it 120 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: with some flukey plays, right, but they recovered an on 121 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: side kick against the Packers. Nobody recovers on sidekicks. So 122 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: there's been some weird stuff that just is unsustainable. And 123 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: that's how I look at the Bears man, heading into 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs. A lot of their formula for success is 125 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: totally unsustainable. So no, I haven't readjusted. I don't think 126 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: there's a need to readjust on the Bears. I think 127 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: they're total frauds in terms of like they're gonna have 128 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: great playoffs success in your one of the bench regime. 129 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: I just don't think they are. Man, I don't think 130 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: they have the goods too. 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: All Right, how about the AFC. 132 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: If we turn our attention to trust in the AFC, 133 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: who baby, we got the playoff field set? Well almost 134 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: we don't know if it's going to be the Steelers 135 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: or the Ravens, but the other six teams we have 136 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: set so as of now. When you go through the 137 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: list and you're like, do you trust the Broncos? Do 138 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: you trust the Patriots? Do you trust the Jags, the Taxi? 139 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Who do you trust? In the AFC? If anybody? 140 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 4: I have a hard time saying anybody Like I. 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: Originally the trust question that I had thought about was 142 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: just like, at this point in the season, I feel 143 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: like I. 144 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 4: Should know who you are as a football team. 145 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there are multiple examples in the AFC where 146 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: I just don't have an answer to that. And to me, 147 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: the team that exemplifies that the most is the Chargers. Okay, 148 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: I have zero clue what I think about the Chargers, 149 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 3: like I know what I think I think about Justin Herbert, 150 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: even though I've seen that go south in the playoffs. 151 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't know about the defense from week to week. 152 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: Most of the time when they go into games, I'll 153 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: look at it and I'll say, I don't know if 154 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: they're gonna win or lose this game. And the ones 155 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: that I think they're gonna win, they lose. And the 156 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: ones that they lose, I think they're gonna win. Like, 157 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: I just have no clue from week to week what 158 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: they are. They're eleven to five, They've won some games, obviously, 159 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: but I just they strike me as a team that 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: gets into the playoffs gets beat immediately again, and we're 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: having the exact same discussion about what they are next year. 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: And I just I just I don't know, like they're. 163 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: Like I said, all the teams that you just mentioned, 164 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of I know what. 165 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: To make of Pittsburgh at Baltimore. 166 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: Neither one of them is very good, even though one 167 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: of them is going to get to the playoffs. I'm 168 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: a Broncos fan, as you know. I don't know that 169 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: I trust our offense. 170 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 4: For four quarters. 171 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: I've seen bo do some really awesome stuff this year, 172 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: and then I've seen them get conservative in a way 173 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: that makes me think Sean Payton doesn't trust him. Sure 174 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: at times. The Patriots, they're still so new to this thing. 175 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: This dig story is no good, that's right, yeah at all. 176 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: Drake May has been phenomenal. I think that both Henderson 177 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: and Stevenson have given them some things this year. I 178 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: like both their tight ends. I like a lot of 179 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: what they're doing. I love Mike Rabel as a head coach, 180 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: loved him when he was here for the most part 181 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: in Tennessee. I think he's been extraordinary for them, but 182 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: they haven't been here before in this spot. And then Jacksonville. 183 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: Jacksonville is the Bears of the AFC. Basically nobody talks 184 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: about Liam Cohen, but Trevor Lawrence was nearly broken. Yeah, 185 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: and that team last. 186 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: Year was nearly broken. 187 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: And they come in and they've won twelve games now, 188 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: they haven't played a insane schedule, and they've been in 189 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: a weird division. And the same thing is the true 190 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: with Houston. Houston. The only reason I say I kind 191 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: of trust Houston more than some of these teams is 192 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: because that defense is straight up legit. They are legit. 193 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: Demko Ryans knows exactly what he's doing there. I trust 194 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: their defense more than I trust Denver's defense, even though 195 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: both of them obviously can can do a lot to you. 196 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: It's just I've seen some good things out of CJ. Stroud, 197 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: more good things out of him than I have out 198 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: of Denver. So I actually think Houston's gonna be the 199 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: team that's gonna be really difficult to deal with. And yes, 200 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: I have not mentioned the Buffalo pills yet. Yeah, because 201 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 3: I just don't care until we get to the playoffs. 202 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 3: I already know Josh Allen's good. I said before the season, Brian, 203 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: if they go seventeen. 204 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: To oh, it's not going to matter. 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: Everything about their future rests on what happens in this postseason. 206 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't need to hear about how good they are 207 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: in the regular season. We already know all of this. 208 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: Get it done in the playoffs, or maybe find a 209 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: new head coach. 210 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 211 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: You know what's funny to me is when we look 212 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: at the Patriots, I push back on a lot of 213 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: the criticism of the Patriots, the reasons to doubt the Patriots. 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: People just point to their schedule and it's been a 215 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: cake schedule. I'm not disputing that it's been the most 216 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: favorable schedule since the ninety nine Rams in terms of 217 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: opponent winning percentage, right. And it's what's funny to me 218 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: is for all these people that are like, oh, the 219 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: Patriots are just beating up on bum teams, what happened 220 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety nine? 221 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 4: Do we remember the ninety believe the Rams went to 222 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. 223 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: They won it all. They won a Super Bowl. Man. 224 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: So I look at the Patriots formula and I ask myself, 225 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: is their formula for success sustainable? Could they carry what 226 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: they've done from the regular season and all their wins 227 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: into the postseason and win some games? And I say, yes, 228 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: they're absolutely capable of doing that. They've got a good defense, 229 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: you've got a really good head coach. You've got an 230 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: excellent quarterback who's an MVP candidate. He's the front runner, 231 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: he might win MVP this season. So when you've got 232 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: that and you bring it to the table, I don't 233 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: care that you've beaten up on mostly bum teams. That 234 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: formula means to me that you're more than capable of 235 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: beating good teams come playoff time. I wouldn't just evaluate 236 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: them solely on an easy schedule, as if that's all 237 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: they bring to the table. That is not the truth 238 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: at all about the Patriots. And I just love that 239 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, easiest schedule since. 240 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: The ninety nine Rams. 241 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: By the way, fine print Rams won a championship that season, 242 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: So let's not count up the Patriots so fast. That's, 243 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: at least in my book, I think the I think 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: very highly of the Patriots. 245 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: I like them a lot. 246 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I don't disagree with you. Again. My only 247 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: thing there. 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: Is this group together, no doubt and no doubt. You've 249 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: got a quarterback that's just inexperienced in this spot, right, 250 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: and that's that's really it. 251 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: And Rabel Rabels. 252 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Had better regular seasons than he has postseasons, like now 253 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: he's made he made a conference championship game, got beaten 254 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: by the Chiefs that year. You know, they have beaten 255 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: some teams into playoffs as well, like they beat Baltimore 256 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: in Baltimore a year where didn't think that was gonna happen. 257 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: Of course, famously beat Brady in Foxborough. But I also 258 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 3: saw him as a number one seed loose to Joe 259 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: Burrow here at home in Nashville in a situation where 260 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: they had never been in that spot, and you know, 261 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: they just weren't able to hold up there. But looking 262 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: at the rest of the AFC, I agree with your case, Like, 263 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: if it's not just it's a little too much too soon, 264 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: yeah for them, then there's no reason to think that 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: they can't beat everybody else in that conference if they 266 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: had to. 267 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: You we probably could have said the same thing about 268 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: the ninety nine Rams. 269 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: You know, like, yeah, that's true. 270 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: What playoff success? What great tests did they have before that? 271 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: Like you had Trent Green go down, you had this 272 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: guy Kurt Warner come in, and you're like, like, who 273 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: the hell is this guy? 274 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: Well, listen, man, Kurt Warner was a consensus number one 275 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: overall draft pick. 276 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: Everyone. He was a household name. He was like Lebron 277 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: James of football. Oh wait, no, he was the exact rush. 278 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: It's all right. 279 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was stocking grocery shelves and playing in the 280 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: Arena League and we're like, I'll never forget Dick for 281 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: Meal crying, and it's like, we will rally and we 282 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: will play good football around Kurt Warner. And it's like, okay, coach, 283 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: good luck with that. And that's exactly what they did. 284 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 5: Man. 285 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: So like it's been done before, I think it could 286 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: be done again. And when it's so wide open in 287 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: the AFC, that's the thing I get it. If it's like, oh, man, 288 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: you've got the upstart Patriots and we've got Mahomes and 289 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. We've got Burrow in the Bengals, we've got 290 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: a fully stacked Lamar and the Ravens team ready to 291 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: go healthy. He's been phenomenal. He's coming off his third MVP. Like, 292 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: it's not like that at all. Like the landscape is there, 293 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: it is there for the taking for a team like 294 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 2: the Patriots. 295 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: So do you think they're coming out of the conference. 296 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 4: I do. 297 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: That's who I've picked out of the AFC. I have 298 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: said that a few weeks ago and I'm sticking with it. Man, 299 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: I like that team a lot. I think they're being 300 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: sold short, and that's one thing that I love, especially 301 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: for a Mike Vrabel coach team. Yes, I love that 302 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: they're being doubted by almost everybody. 303 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is perfect for them heading into 304 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: this thing. 305 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: So is Sean McDermott the coach in Buffalo next year? Man, 306 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: if you're right. 307 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: I uh, he very well might not be, because it's 308 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: not only that they lose. 309 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: It could be on top of how did they lose. 310 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think. 311 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: He's done a bad job, but I can totally see 312 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: that regime saying hey man, we've tried it and tried 313 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: it and tried it. This was the year, this was 314 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: go time for us. The landscape was wide open and 315 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: we still didn't make it. 316 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: So it's always. 317 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: Been the Chiefs. 318 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 3: It's always been the Chiefs, that's right. So now the 319 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: Chiefs are out I know it or something right like yeah, 320 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: like you have to do it. And like if it's 321 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 3: the Patriots especially, it's like you're telling me, Mahomes didn't 322 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: make the playoffs and we got another AFC East team 323 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: that's in the super Bowl and it's not us. I 324 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: think if Buffalo is not at least in the super Bowl, 325 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: you gotta. 326 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: Make a change. Yeah, you have to make a change. 327 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: I hear you. 328 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: I've got a quick question for you in just a second. Hey, 329 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: it's Brian No. Sesame Street helped raise all of us. 330 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: Now it's our turn donate this holiday season at sesame 331 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: dot org because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. 332 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 2: All Right, Now, here's my question. What do you trust 333 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: more this tam of trust that we have? Right? Do 334 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: you trust going into the playoffs a team with a 335 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: shaky offense or a shaky defense? 336 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: Right? 337 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: You think about a team like the Bears shaky defense. 338 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Think about a team like the Texans excellent defense, but 339 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: real shaky offensive line, shaky running game. Which do you 340 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: trust more when you go team by team, are you like, Ugh, 341 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: shaky offense can't do it? Or is it shaky defense? 342 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: I just can't pull the trigger on that team. Which 343 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: is it for you? 344 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: I didn't know if you were teasing for the next segment, 345 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: I would. 346 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Say, I think I trust a team with a shaky 347 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: offense more because I've just I've watched football my entire life, 348 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: and I don't think that. 349 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: It has changed. 350 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: Defenses can score touchdowns, yeah, they can force turnovers and 351 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: give shaky offenses a short field. And to me, like, 352 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: I just I feel like the Texans are going to 353 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: be difficult to deal with because it's going to be 354 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: a struggle to get two touchdowns on them, like to 355 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: get fourteen points on that defense. So you're not asking CJ. 356 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: Stroud to go put up fifty to win a game. 357 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 3: I just think you can overcome a bad offense with 358 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: a great defense easier than you can try to go 359 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: in these shootouts and outscore teams with a defense that's 360 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: basically Ondola defense. 361 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, fair enough. 362 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: I'm pretty much where you are too, and listen, I 363 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: think it takes balance to win championships. 364 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't agree that defense wins. I think balance wins championships. 365 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: You can't just have a god awful offense and an 366 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: electric defense and sniff a super Bowl. You got to 367 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 2: have some balance. That's what truly wins. But if it's 368 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: you know, like look at the Bears, look at the Niners. 369 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: When you have no pass rush in the Niners, when 370 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: you can't, you're giving up yards left and right. You 371 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: can only force takeaways. As the Bears defense, I just 372 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: can't back you. I cannot back those teams. And the 373 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: interesting part is if you're the Texans, if you get 374 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: a lead, I love you. If you're trailing, gosh, I 375 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: don't like that spot at all. Right, Like, so yeah, 376 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be really interesting come playoff time. 377 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait for it. 378 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: All right. 379 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: He's Jason Martin, I'm Brian know. We're in for Two 380 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: Pros and a Cup of Joe right here coming up next. 381 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: It's like a parent that has absolutely no authority with 382 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: their kids. 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I'm Brian though. 401 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 4: Sorry. 402 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: I was doing my impression there, like the music's playing 403 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: and I started singing the chorus as Coolio and I'm like, wait, 404 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 2: Coolio doesn't sing the chorus. 405 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: It's the other guy. 406 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: It's more soulful, been living most all live right, Like. 407 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: You gotta put your chest into it. Jmore. 408 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 2: I'm not a singer at all, but as you can 409 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: probably you could have fooled me with that. 410 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you. I appreciate that. 411 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Hey feeding off the success of our college basketball bracket 412 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 2: challenge each March, we decided to do a bracket challenge 413 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: for the college football playoff. That is, right, with eight 414 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: teams left standing in college football, it's Bracket Challenge time. 415 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 2: Compete against our Fox Sports Radio hosts and against fellow 416 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: listeners to see who has the best college football Playoff bracket. 417 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: For your chance to win one thousand dollars. 418 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: Visit Fox Sports Radio dot iHeart dot com to register, 419 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: get rules, and fill out your bracket. You gotta fill 420 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: it out today today. As de Niro said in one 421 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: of his movies, I think it was good Fellas, but. 422 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: It's got to be done. 423 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: Yead's gotta be done by seven thirty pm Eastern today 424 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: day Again. Fill out your bracket at Fox Sports Radio 425 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: dot iHeart dot com for your chance to win one 426 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Just I think make sure you fade Bama. 427 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: Fade Bama. If you got Bama moving on, it's probably 428 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: a bad bracket right there. I think it's a bad choice. 429 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: It's supposed to rain like crazy. You know, we got Loraina, 430 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: we got Coop over there in La. It's supposed to 431 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: rain like crazy. Is it not like Pasadena? Like the 432 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: weather report. It looks like rain all day? Is that 433 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: what we're looking at here? 434 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: I heard such things, but it wasn't wet last time 435 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 4: I walked outside. 436 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Jason, if it's raining. 437 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Alabama is a great running team, yeah, many times, but. 438 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: Not this year. 439 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: Nope, not this year. We need mark Ingram back there. 440 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: We need Derek Henry back there, like they they're not 441 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: walking through that door, man. 442 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Anie Lacy, just. 443 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: Anyone who chucks Killer Dame in twenty twelve, you know, 444 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: like this shit, those gids. 445 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: Oh that was so ugly. Man, I still really know 446 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: pars of that game. Gosh. 447 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: All right, So I mentioned that it's like a parent 448 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: that has absolutely no authority over their kids. 449 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: I'm wondering where you want to Like, I'm wondering where 450 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: you're going with this. Yeah, Like I was thinking about 451 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: during the break, I was like, I wonder if I 452 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: could guess this. So I definitely have one in mind. Okay, 453 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 3: I'm wondering, Yeah, what do you have? 454 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick, It's not I'm going to mostly college basketball 455 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: and it's what John Calaperry is talking. 456 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 457 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: The rant, Yeah, the rant was unbelievable. So many things 458 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: in this rant. 459 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 2: It's two parts because it's way too long of a 460 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: SoundBite just combined as one. But you can tell what 461 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: cali Perry's talking about now. A portion of this is 462 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: we saw a guy who was drafted in twenty twenty three, 463 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 2: drafted in the NBA and he was just granted four 464 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: years of eligibility. This guy, James Naji, He's going back 465 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: to Baylor. He was drafted in twenty twenty three. He 466 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: never reached the NBA or the G League. So college basketball, 467 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: the NCAA is like, come on back, buddy, And so 468 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: a coach like John Caliperi is like, what are we 469 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: doing right now? This is like a grown man. Are 470 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: we going to have G leaguers? Are we going to 471 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: have European dudes that are like twenty five years old 472 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 2: playing in college basketball now? So that's the first part 473 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: of the rant is like the kids coming back to 474 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: college basketball. 475 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: Check us out epic rant. 476 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: Real simple. 477 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: The rules. 478 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: These the rules. 479 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: So if you put your name in the draft, I 480 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 5: don't care if you're from Russia and you stay in 481 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 5: the draft, you can't play college basketball. Well that's only 482 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 5: for American kids. What if your name is in that 483 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 5: draft and you got drafted, you can't play cup because 484 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 5: that's our rule. Yeah, but that's only for American kids. Okay, Okay, 485 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 5: Now here's the next lawsuit. Well, we don't have a 486 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 5: say over European player. You do if they're playing in 487 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: college basketball. So that means you don't have a say 488 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 5: over high school kids. So whatever a high school kid 489 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: does before he comes here, don't you do one thing 490 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: because there's a suit, Because what you're saying is, if 491 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 5: he's in Europe, we don't have the same rules. What 492 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 5: if he puts his name in the draft, can't go 493 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 5: to college? 494 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first part of it. What do you 495 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: think about that, Jason? You agree with them? 496 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean college sports right now is kind of I 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: wouldn't even say it's a ruttle list. It's captain lest. 498 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: Like somebody's got to show up and say I'm the captain. Now, 499 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: that's right, that's right, And we don't have it. 500 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: We don't have it in college football. We don't have 501 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 4: it in college basketball. 502 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 3: I have a you know, like cal Perry has always 503 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: known the rules because he's used them to his advantage 504 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: quite a bit. The one and done, for example, a 505 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: Kentucky and all this other kind of stuff, And that's 506 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: not a negative. I'm just saying that he's always been 507 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: somebody who has been able to find what he can 508 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: to get a leg up, to get an advantage, like 509 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: most good coaches would. I can't disagree with him too 510 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 3: much because there it's not even that the inmates are 511 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: running the asylum. 512 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 4: There's no doors on the asylum. 513 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're just in there voluntarily, like if you're 514 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: following every rule that's on you, because almost nobody else is. 515 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 4: Because no, there's no enforcement mechanisms. 516 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: I know it. 517 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: And at this. 518 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: Point it just feels like, all right, if we're not 519 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: gonna enforce this rule, what exactly are we doing? Like 520 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 3: we're just gonna find dudes at the rec league and 521 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: just put them on the floor. This student Goggles just 522 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: had forty couldn't miss from three. I'm gonna go ahead 523 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: and put him in for a couple minutes at the 524 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: end of the game. I don't know if he's gone 525 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: to college or not. 526 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 4: Who cares. 527 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: Like at this point, like, stop calling it college sports. 528 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 3: It's just sports. Like, come up with another name for it. 529 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: There's nothing like all of it is crazy to me. 530 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: Back to Baylor is not back to cal either. Like 531 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: just at this stage, it's just it's mind boggling to me. 532 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 4: I can understand his frustration because there is no consistency 533 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 4: in anything that is happening. 534 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really like the NC double A is just 535 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 2: like a parent that has no authority where it really 536 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: it's the kids that are like, I'm gonna come back 537 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: to college, and the NC double A is like, all right, 538 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: that sort of sounds like a lawsuit if we say no, 539 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 2: so okay. It really would be like a parent that's like, 540 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 2: now go to bed, and the kids like, yeah, I 541 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: don't want to go to bed, and I'm gonna eat 542 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: some ice cream too. 543 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: So there's that and the figure. 544 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: We have violations of like Terrell prior, like getting a tattoo. 545 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: Right, I know it selling their they're like the gold 546 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: pants that they get for like the Ohio State guys. 547 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, like they. 548 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: Get these little gold pants for beating Michigan. They sold those, 549 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: and that's a gigantic no noe. Like some of the 550 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: little tiny things from the past, like the cheeseburgers off 551 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: and it seems like such small potatoes. 552 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: They like a fine toothed comb. They would nail you 553 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: for any tiny thing. 554 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 4: It was. They were mall cops. 555 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now it's just anything goes man. It is 556 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: the wild wild West. And this is the other part 557 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: of the rant. So we're talking about eligibility. Now this 558 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 2: is a little over a minute. I think it's really good. 559 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: So check it out from Coach cal. 560 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: The other thing. 561 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 5: The eligibility again, real simple. You got five years to 562 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: play four If you stay at the same school. 563 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: Four years, we'll give you a fifth year. 564 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 5: If your coach leaves or is fired, you can transfer 565 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 5: without penalty. 566 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: You can do it once, and. 567 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: If the coach is fired or leaves, you can end 568 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 5: up doing it twice. 569 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: But after that you got to sit out. You transfer, 570 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: but you gotta sit out. 571 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 5: Does anybody care what this is doing for seventeen an 572 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 5: eighteen year old American kids? Do you know what this 573 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 5: opportunity has done for them and their families? There aren't 574 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: gonna be any high school kids who other than dumb 575 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: people like me are gonna recruit high school kids. I 576 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 5: get so much satisfaction out of coaching young kids and 577 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 5: seeing them grow and make it and their family life 578 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 5: changes that I'm gonna keep doing it. But why would 579 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: anybody else If you can get NBA players, G League players, 580 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: guys that are twenty eight years old, guys from Europe. Look, 581 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 5: Tommy is old, Mark few. There are a bunch of 582 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 5: us that are just we got no rules. 583 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. 584 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: These coaches are just like, bro, what are the rules 585 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: exactly here? And he's right, Coach cal is absolutely right. 586 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 2: We're supposed to be College sports is supposed to be 587 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 2: about kids coming from high school, going to college, growing, trying. 588 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: To make it to the end. 589 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: But if they don't getting an opportunity growing, Like, we 590 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't be turning college basketball into the G League, right, Like, 591 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 2: if you get drafted in the NBA, Bro, you don't 592 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: belong in college anymore. Go somewhere else. If you get 593 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: a hack it in the NBA or the G League, 594 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: go overseas. But it can't be in college hoops because 595 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: he's right, the eighteen to nineteen year old kids, they're 596 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: paying the price if we're allowing G leaguers, NBA draftees, 597 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: European dudes who are like in their twenties, Like, what 598 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: are we doing right now with college sports? 599 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: That's not what it should be. 600 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I. 601 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: Think that this is the reason why Jay Wright is out, 602 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: This is the reason why Nick Saban stepped aside. This 603 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: is the reason we're going to continue to see more 604 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: guys try to go to the pros from college than 605 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: the other way around, because even though look, owners can 606 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 3: be fickle and you can lose a job pretty quickly 607 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: in the NFL, college just seems like in terms of 608 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 3: what goes into it, I'm not talking about the on 609 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: the floor stuff. That's the easy stuff. Practice, that's the 610 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: easy stuff. The tough stuff is the recruiting, the portal, 611 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff, the inconsistency in how the rules 612 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: are applied from case to case and whether or not 613 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: the rules have any teeth whatsoever. Like and he's the 614 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 3: guys he's mentioned in guys like Few and is Oh 615 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: and himself and all this, like they were around for 616 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: the system change, they were around for what it used 617 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: to look like, and they were even around most of 618 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: them before the previous system when it was also being 619 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: done another way. Even from there, we have gotten so 620 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: far away from what college athletics used to be. 621 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 4: And this is not a don't pay the player's argument. 622 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: This is simply a I don't know what we have here, 623 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 3: and I don't. 624 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 4: Think these coaches do either. 625 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 3: And I think at some point it's just like, man, 626 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: I've won a couple of championships at Villanova. I'm good 627 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: on TV. I'm just gonna do this. It's just a 628 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: different and an easier life like cal be all some 629 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: on TV. I think the reason he's at Arkansas it's 630 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: because he loves coaching basketball. 631 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: I truely do. 632 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: And I felt happy for him when he left Kentucky 633 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 3: because yeah, Arkansas cares, but nobody cares quite like Kentucky cares. 634 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: And so he goes to Arkansas. He stays in the conference, 635 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: and he's in a little bit of a less pressure 636 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: packed environment where he can just coach basketball, which is 637 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: what he wants to do. 638 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: But the job is so much more now than that. 639 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: And if we're looking at all the inconsistency, even from 640 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: what's happening overseas to what's happening here, and we can 641 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: bring in guys from the G League, or we can 642 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: bring in guys who are semi pro as opposed to 643 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: looking at high schoolers and how that's going to affect 644 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 3: Like a lot of things have unintended consequences or a 645 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: lot of things have consequences you could see coming if 646 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: you actually stopped and thought about it before you made rash, 647 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: kind of impulsive decisions. And it just felt like when 648 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: college sports exploded, it exploded so fast and there was 649 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 3: nobody there to kind of put the brain on it 650 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: or even put some kind of fence around it enough 651 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 3: to wear. Okay, well let's keep things sane here. Yeah, 652 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 3: you said the Wild West. To me, it's just pure insanity. 653 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: Like doesn't mean that. 654 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: The product isn't fun to watch or anything like that. 655 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: It just means that I don't know. Sometime I don't 656 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: even know the rules. 657 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: I know, it. 658 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 3: Seems like day by day something happens. I'm like, wait, 659 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 3: that's that's the rule. Like I know, I have no idea, 660 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 3: so I can't even imagine from a coach's perspective, trying. 661 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 4: To keep up. 662 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: And that's what these guys are saying coach cal Matt 663 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 2: Painter at Purdue, tom Izzo at Michigan State. 664 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: They're like, what exactly are the rules? 665 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: Like what are they think about the rules of I 666 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: don't know, say, like a football game, all right, you 667 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: get six points for a touchdown, you get three points 668 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: for a field, go so forth and so on. It's 669 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: like everything that you've known has changed and it's just ambiguous. 670 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: It's like a touchdown might be worth anywhere from like 671 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: five to eight points to It's like, wait a minute, 672 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: how much is a touchdown worth? 673 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: What are the rules? What are we looking at here? 674 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 2: And that's what these college coaches are saying. And you 675 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: made a great point, especially with what they've known. Some 676 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: of these guys been around forever. Coach Cow's been around forever, 677 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: Tom Izzo's been around forever. Think about previous installments of 678 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 2: what the rules were, how you had to abide by 679 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: the rules, how you would get smacked if you didn't 680 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: abide by the rules, and now it's completely flipped on 681 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: its head. That's the wild thing, man, is we just 682 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: got to have some better structure to this thing. Where 683 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: take football for instance, what if a guy gets drafted 684 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 2: by an NFL team, then he gets cut like he's 685 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: a fourth round, fifth round guy, he doesn't make it, 686 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: and then he's like, I'm just gonna go back to college. 687 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? Like no, your your eligibility's gone. Man, 688 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: you're a pro now, Like go away. I don't know 689 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: what it is with the NCAA just having a complete 690 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: lack of a backbone. It's like we talk about Adams 691 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: over the NBA commissioner with like he's spineless. He looks 692 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: like the terminator compared to the NC DOUBLEA right now, 693 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: the NC DOUBLEA has no sign of a spine. 694 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: There is no pushback. 695 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: If you come at him, like, hey, if you don't 696 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 2: let this guy play, we're coming after you. They're like, 697 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: oh right, he can play. Like they just freak out, man, 698 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: and they run for the hills. 699 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 700 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: I mean again, I think that maybe they just The 701 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: most kind of disconcerting or concerning thing is just not 702 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: only is are these coaches saying what are the rules? 703 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: It's like, which ones do we actually have to follow? 704 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: Because this is a rule? You just told me this 705 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: is a rule. Well, here's what's happening over here at 706 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State. I just threw that out there. 707 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: I'm not saying. 708 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 3: Oklahoma States anything, but it's like, from case to case 709 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: the rules seem to be applied, enforced, or just completely ignored. 710 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: And so that's it's like, is there a rule book 711 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: in which something actually results in. 712 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 4: A violation right right? 713 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: Or basically is it a rule until it becomes an issue, 714 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: at which point it's no longer a rule. 715 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: That's right, Like, imagine, and we go back to the 716 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: parent kid thing. 717 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: Right. 718 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Imagine if you're a kid and you've got three brothers 719 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: and sisters and your parents have all these rules, right, 720 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: you got to do your homework, you gotta go to 721 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: bed by eight o'clock whatever, And all of a sudden, 722 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 2: your three other brothers and sisters they're not following anything 723 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 2: and they're not getting punished at all. 724 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: It's like, what are you gonna do? 725 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 2: Are you gonna follow the rules or are you just gonna 726 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: misbehave without any punishment and any structure to begin, Like, 727 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 2: you're probably gonna misbehave also and not follow the rules 728 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: like they're getting away with it. 729 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I eat ice cream before? 730 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 4: Bet? 731 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: That sounds awesome. So that's where we're at right now. 732 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 2: It is wild. Hey, ever wanted to try an Olympic 733 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 2: and Paralympic sport, Try fencing. It's fast, safe and easy 734 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: to start. Find a beginner class near you at us 735 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 2: fencing dot org slash try fencing. That is us fencing 736 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: dot org slash try fencing. 737 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: All right, He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian. 738 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 5: No. 739 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: Coming up, we will look at our. 740 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: College football playoff picks well, compare notes real fast and 741 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,240 Speaker 2: also one team is resting while another team is playing. 742 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: Do these completely opposite approaches both make sense for each team. 743 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 2: We'll dive into that as well. He's Jason Martin. 744 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm Brian. 745 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: Now We're in for two Pros and a Cup of 746 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio. 747 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 6: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 748 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 6: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 749 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 6: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific. 750 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian. 751 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: Now We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 752 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: This show is sponsored by Draft Kings sportsbook and official 753 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. 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Again, 762 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: just search what's the code two pros wherever you get 763 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: your podcasts, and you'll find today's full show and the 764 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: best of version posted right after the end of the show. 765 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 2: All right, ja mart, First things first, and we'll get 766 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: to our college football playoff predictions here rapid fire style. 767 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: But the Chargers are going to be resting this Sunday. 768 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: They're not gonna play their starters, not gonna play Justin Herbert, 769 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: their main guys against the Broncos. They're gonna rest up, 770 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 2: get ready for the playoffs. The other LA team, the 771 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: LA Rams, they're doing the opposite. Sean McVay said, Oh, 772 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: we're playing our starters. We're gonna go We're gonna try 773 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: to play our best football heading into the playoffs, right like, 774 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: get on the right track. And they're also trying to 775 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 2: get the five seed. They want to face whoever comes 776 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: out of the wreck that is the NFC side, So 777 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 2: they're trying to get up and get that five seed. 778 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: Look their opposite approaches, I think they make sense for 779 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: both teams like the Rams got to play a lot better. 780 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: There's real value in being the five seed, and the 781 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 2: Chargers are beaten up man like Herbert's got a broken 782 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: hand that he just had surgically repaired. I totally understand 783 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,479 Speaker 2: why they're not playing against the Broncos. So I think 784 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 2: both approaches work for each team. 785 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. 786 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 3: I think that when it comes to the Chargers, you 787 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: definitely want a healthy Herbert or you've got no shot. 788 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 3: And you look at kind of the opposition there. I 789 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 3: don't know what you think the difference is between this 790 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 3: opponent and that opponent. It's different when you look at 791 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 3: do I want to play Carolina or do I want 792 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: to play Philadelphia who beat me last year? If I'm 793 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: the Rams, So I think there's something to be said 794 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: for that as well. And I mean the Rams are 795 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 3: always already gonna have it tough because they can't win 796 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 3: the division and so they're going to have to keep 797 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: going on the road. Biggest question mark for the Rams 798 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 3: is can they reach the Super Bowl by having to 799 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: do it through road games? Because they're a much better team, 800 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: at least to me just watching them the eye test. 801 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 3: They're just far better on their own field, and they're 802 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: just not going to have the opportunity. 803 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 4: To see that. 804 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go super rapid fire with the four college 805 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: football playoff games. Get one today, three tomorrow. Hey, Loraina, 806 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 2: this is sort of like a pop quiz. I need 807 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: sort of like intense background music. It doesn't even have 808 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 2: to be that intense, just something like with playoffs on 809 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 2: the line. You know, no words hit us with something. 810 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, that is intense? 811 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Right there? Are you kidding me? Alright, let's go all 812 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: right now, either outright or with the point spread. You choose, 813 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: j Mart, you go for it. 814 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 2: What we got Miami against Ohio State Ohio State minus 815 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: nine and a half? 816 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 4: What do you have Ohio State? 817 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: Outright? 818 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: Ohio State covers wins by over two touchdowns. 819 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: I love Miami plus nine and a half. 820 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 2: I would even sprinkle a little bit on the on 821 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: the money line. And I'm pulling the shaker right here. 822 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 2: Very talented team, so I could see it happening, even 823 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: though I one of us like or Beck like, yeah, 824 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: we're going ahead to ed all right, Oregon Texas Tech. 825 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 2: We've got Oregon minus two and a half in this one. 826 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: What do you have I think Oregon covers because it's 827 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: such a low spread. I just don't trust Texas Tech's 828 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 3: offense in this situation. I think Dante Moore in company 829 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: are going to be too much for them. 830 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 2: Hey, you could be right. I'm gonna go with Tech. 831 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the points at least. And their front 832 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 2: seven is so good. Their offense, man, when it's firing 833 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 2: that they're really good. They're a wagon. I like Texas 834 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 2: Tech getting points. How about BAM and Iu IU minus seven? 835 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 4: I like IU to cover. 836 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: I just do too. 837 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be too much. 838 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 2: I love them, Yeah, I absolutely love them. I think 839 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 2: Bama's fools, gold frauds, fugazy. I don't trust them at all. 840 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: Ole Miss Georgia Georgia minus six and a half. I 841 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 2: like the dollars cover you Georgia to Let's go enjoy 842 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: the day.