1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amson, and this is the 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: College Football Apostles and we got a lot to talk 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: about today. Now we got to talk a little bit 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: about Arch Manning and in the comments, Texas fans have 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: not been expressively happy because they like, you're talking about 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: our guy. Well, can he live up to this hype? 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: And he's got a new Red Bull deal that absolutely 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: contradicts everything that he said. I'm not mad at him, 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: but Ralphis now there is a new lawsuit when it 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: comes to the NC DOUBLEA, the Diego Pavia Juco thing, 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: but now it's for Division two players. How would this 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: impact everything? And will this settlement ever get finished? I 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: say no. The ACC releases its schedule, This impacts Notre Dame, 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: this impacts their TV contract with ESPN, and also they 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: are not playing on Saturdays as much as they need 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: to be playing on Saturday. And their A list came 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: out from on three of the top returning quarterbacks for 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and we got to dive into that. 19 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: And Michigan responds to the Connor Stallions' allegations. They're fighting back. 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: That and more here on the College Football Apostles, make 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: sure that you like, subscribe, get notifications, and tell a 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: friend about the show. Let's get to it, all, right, 23 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: we gotta start with that boy, arch Oh. Listen. Archie 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: is the most anticipated, the most hyped up college quarterback 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: that we've had, probably since like Trevor Lawrence and now 26 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Andrew Luck all of those and now and 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: we talked on the other show about can he live 28 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: up to that high? But now he has done something 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: that has rubbed Ralph the wrong way. Now, if we 30 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: go back to last year when the NCAA game was 31 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: getting ready to come out, during this time, all the 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: college players are signing their rights away for like six 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: hundred bucks a free copy of the game, and obviously 34 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: some people negotiated higher deals. And I remember arch Manning 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: said he's not doing it because he wants to focus 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: on football. And what did I say then, Ralph? 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: That he was lying, yes, and that he was going 38 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: to get made a whole video about it. 39 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and that he was going to get a big bag. 40 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: I told you, I knew what was going to happen, 41 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: So I don't even know why you're upset about this. 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: That was corny. This is corny, he's corny. 43 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: So here is what Ralph feels this corny. So he's 44 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: got a new nil deal, this time it's with red Bull, 45 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: and he says, quote, I'm focused on playing foot. Well, 46 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: that's what I love to do. I'm not here to 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: do nil deals. Those are extra curriculars. But I'd like 48 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: to drink a red Bull every now and then. What's 49 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: the problem with this? 50 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: The fake humility, the fake humility, I'm not here to 51 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: do nil deals. Buddy, your recruiting trip cost a quarter 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: of a million dollars? 53 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: Is it he being? But is there a world, Ralph 54 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: that you're being overly sensitive? And and he is being 55 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: cheeky here as as the as our friends across the 56 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: pond would say, isn't he trying to make a joke 57 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: right here? 58 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: What's the joke? 59 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm not do n IL deals even though I. 60 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: Have health deals. 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, this is this is like a and this is 62 00:03:52,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: some like federal politician level gaslighting, red meat for the 63 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: masses of college football fans with purchasing power, the blue hairs, 64 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: the old people who hate an il. So you throw 65 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: them this bone and saying like, hey, I don't like 66 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: it either, but I'll drink a red bull and you 67 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: should too. 68 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: Shut up, shup up. You're so stupid. 69 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Rah rah. He is a Do you understand that the 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: mining family is about that bread? Like you know that 71 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and there's no problem. 72 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: Are no problem with the bread, There's no problem with it. 73 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: I told you that I didn't like what and you 74 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: didn't either. You didn't either at the time. I don't 75 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: know why I'm so much more annoyed than you at 76 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: this point. Maybe it's because you were right, and you 77 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: like being right. You get off on it. You gotta. 78 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people got a kink for 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: being right, but I just, dude, this kid is getting 80 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: on my nerves. 81 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: It was. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: It's one thing that a lot of the recruiting rankings 83 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: were driven by his last name. We like, we know 84 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: that because if he was the number one, like if 85 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: he if he was who he says he is, he 86 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: would have been playing. Not if he was who he 87 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: says he is, If he was who everybody that matters 88 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: says he is, that gave him that fifth star, that 89 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: said he's going to be a first round pick. He 90 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: would have played as a freshman or a sophomore more 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: than just garbage time or in a case of injury, 92 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: which means we got to admit something about quin Ewers 93 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: that maybe we're not willing to admit that he was 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: better than arch Manning was well, and that's a completely. 95 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Sark wasn't gonna bench yours. He's loyal to him. 96 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh yes, super loyal, They asked Washington fans, how loyal 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: Steve sarkisian is? 98 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 99 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: Did he not leave. 100 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: For a check? 101 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: Yeah? 102 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: It? Look, look who cares? 103 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 3: Who cares? 104 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: None of this stuff matters. What bothered me about the 105 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: NC double A thing is the implication to his teammates 106 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: who did opt in, that they're not focused on football 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: and he's a backup. He's a backup out here issuing 108 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: a statement that makes him talk talking like a start. 109 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: Hates to quote Drake right before Kendrick performs in the 110 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but bench players talking like starters. 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: I hate it. 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: So it was already the implication that if you accepted 113 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: a deal with NC double A, you weren't focused on 114 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 2: football was a very dumb thing to do. And a 115 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: lot of college kids they don't have time to take 116 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: offense to something like that, but I do. I found 117 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: it offensive and stupid. You made a video about it, 118 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 2: and now he's saying that like, hey, I'm not here 119 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: to do nil deals, then don't take them. 120 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Then don't ro You are one hundred percent right. Let 121 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: me explain this. You are one hundred percent right that 122 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: him do it? That that yes, that the that him 123 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: saying that I'm focused on football and all of that stuff. 124 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: And I told you that it was a It was 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: a ploye to get more money. It was a negotiating tactic, 126 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and it was also to and either that or it 127 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: was to generate some buzz surrounding Arch, right and then 128 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: knowing that they were going to circle back and do 129 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: this whole campaign about him in the game after either 130 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but but that would be a lot of 131 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: doing for a backup, which was going to be last year. 132 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: But here's the thing is, I don't know. I don't 133 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: believe that they were intending on necessarily him being a 134 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: backup all year that because remember what I told you 135 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: that was coming out of Texas was was that was 136 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: that Hewers was the guy. However, if he didn't play well, 137 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: and that Arch would play in the first few games 138 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: some and that if he didn't beat Michigan or if 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: he looked bad in any of those games, then there 140 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: could be a takeover and Archist stats pull up, pull 141 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: up archers stats for US. 142 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: Ralph, No, that what he has? Like eight touchdowns against 143 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: UH Citadel. He played one meaningful game. I'm not pulling 144 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 2: up why why are I gonna pull up a backup stats? 145 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: I'm focused on this show. I'm not here to stats. 146 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: I'm focused on this show. See, because you can only 147 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: focus on one thing at a time. That's why I'm 148 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: so mad at Arch. He's the old boomers believe some 149 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: of the dumbest They cling to some of the dumbest beliefs, 150 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: and they're gonna die with these dumb beliefs. Finds are 151 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: feeding into them, like the idea that you can only 152 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 2: focus on football. 153 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: This is the type of thing that makes. 154 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Lions fans blame Ben Johnson for taking an interview when 155 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: he had two weeks to prepare for a football game. Yeah, 156 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: Arch Manning is feeding some of the dumbest ideas we 157 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: have in our society, which is that if you accept 158 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: a check, you can't focus on football. 159 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Well, then, how all right, Ralph? I got you here, 160 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: everybody under the everybody listening to this, I got you. 161 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: I got you, so, Ralph, So you're annoyed with Arch Manning? Right? 162 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 163 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 164 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: Okay, So this is the most annoying I've been with 165 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: an athlete since Brady Quinn did those Myoplex commercials where 166 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: he's trying to be a bodybuild and he's like, now 167 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm done like that. That's been twenty years and I 168 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: still think about that commercial every single day. That's how 169 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: dumb this quote is about this red Bull deal. 170 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: Okay, cool? So Arch is getting this check and that's 171 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: and and you don't like the wording surrounding it. So no, 172 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: how about how about this? Because the list of the 173 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: most impactful potential quot quarterbacks for next season came out 174 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: and your boy is. 175 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: Leading the list. 176 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh boy boy? Hey? Uh hate this? 177 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: No? 178 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: I do hate it. That's rat poison. You and I 179 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: had a private phone conversation two days ago about the 180 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: dangers of over hping Sam Levitt, and then on three 181 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: comes out with the list putting him like what he's 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: he like eight spots above? 183 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: Ki, bro, here's why. 184 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: So I believe that Sam Levitt. Dude, this the effusive 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:44,359 Speaker 1: praise for Sam Levitt. It is people watch hate. 186 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: People have only watched one game. 187 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: Correct. I hate this And it's not that I think 188 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: the kid sucks, because I don't. I believe he got 189 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: progressively better last year. Where he couldn't throw the ball 190 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: well in the beginning of the season, he got better 191 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: and better. And I do believe the kid is a 192 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: good quarterback. However, Arizona State season last year was such 193 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: an outlier from what reasonable expectations were that it feels 194 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: like anything short of a playoff appearance is a letdown 195 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: for this season. And I don't think Arizona State is 196 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: going to make the playoff for a second year in 197 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: a row. I think that cam Scattaboo and this season 198 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: were absolute magic. Do I believe that they'll win somewhere 199 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: in between like eight and ten games? Yes? Do I 200 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: need to see them in the spring and the portal, Yes, 201 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: But I think this team will win in between eight 202 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: and ten games this year, which which would still mean 203 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham is way ahead of schedule, way on the 204 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: right track all of those things. But Sam Levitt being 205 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: number one on this list. 206 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: Is do do you have the list up on the screen? 207 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 208 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I want to do a little thought exercise 209 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: with you. Okay, because this list is egregious h and 210 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: the thing that sticks out really is the same Levit thing. 211 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Because okay, so let me let me give the list 212 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: first to the people who are listening on audio. 213 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Of course. 214 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: So you got Sam Levitt one, Drew Aller two, Drew 215 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Alis should probably be number one on this list, and no, 216 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying based upon what he's actually actually Kate Clubnick 217 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: should probably. 218 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: Keep it rolling, keep it rolling, because I got I 219 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: got something for you, I got something for you. 220 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Sam Levitt one, Drew Aller two, DJ Lagway three, Arch 221 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: Manning four, Garrett I'm sorry, Leonora Sellers five, Damn he 222 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: could be number one two, Garrett Nussmeyer six, Carson Beck 223 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: seven he should be thirteen, Kate Club Nick eight, John 224 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Mattier nine, and Nico E I'm a lava number seven, 225 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean number ten. 226 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready? Okay, flip it. If you flip this. 227 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: I have not many problems with it, and I know 228 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: it's predictive. I know it's somebody's opinion. I know it's 229 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: meant to start discussion, but you shouldn't come out with 230 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: a list where someone says reverse it completely and it 231 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: will make more sense. 232 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you put Niko one, I wouldn't argue with 233 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: and that he made a jump, but he played in 234 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: a lot of meaningful games. And then John Materiat two. 235 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: I definitely do not hate that because John Materia two, 236 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: John Matier was the best quarterback available in free agency 237 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: this year period, probably the best player available period. Yes, 238 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: and I think Leonora's sellers could be higher, but based 239 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: upon what they did and their team accomplishment last year, 240 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: I would either put Kate club Nick one or Drew 241 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: all or one, and then John Matier two. I'm actually 242 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: super excited about DJ Lagway. I would put for safety's sake, 243 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: I would put Sam Levitt in the middle, and then 244 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: Carson Beck would be ten. Nuss Meyer would be like nine, 245 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Arts would be prop eight. Yeah, somewhere around there. 246 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: Okay, And now I know a couple of these guys 247 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: moved in uh well one of them in what world? 248 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: In what plan? What planet? Will six of the top 249 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: ten quarterbacks in any given season be in the SEC 250 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: in what world? And that's including Carson Beck leaving, so 251 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: technically seven or I guess you could go back to 252 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: six because John Tier came from Washington State or whatever. 253 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: But six of the top ten quarterbacks in any given 254 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: season being from the SEC. 255 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: Never gonna happen, Ralph, you just pointed out a genius point, Bro. 256 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: So you got DJ Lagway, arch Manning, Lenora Sellers, Garrett Nussmeier, 257 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: Jeohn Materier, and uh Nico e Amaliva from the same 258 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: from the same damn conference. Come on, come on, bro, 259 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: stop it, stop it. I mean, I guess there was 260 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: a year where the Pac twelve did have like all 261 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in the in. 262 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: The Yeah, but that doesn't happen in the SEC like it, 263 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Just like with the the not everybody has moved on 264 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: to that style of us. 265 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Not on this list. That absolutely. On one hand, I'm 266 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: happy that he's not on this list. He's not on 267 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: the preseason Heisman list, none of this. But the dude 268 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that might be better than all of these dudes. 269 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: On the list, Dante Moore. 270 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: Dante Moore. People have completely forgotten about the kid because 271 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: he transferred from UCLA. Even some Oregon fans have said, 272 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, what are we gonna do it? Quarterback? 273 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Like Bro, the the sentiment surrounding Oregon is the exact 274 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: same way it was. I think it was in twenty ten, 275 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: when I was in Arizona at the Fiesta Bowl, the 276 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: National championship that they were gonna put. Oregon was gonna 277 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: play against Auburn and they told me they said. I 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: was talking to the coaches. I was like, man, win 279 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: or lose, Bro, We're gonna be back next year. Darren 280 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: Thomas is gonna be back at quarterback. And they were like, 281 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: WHOA slow down. I was like, what are you talking about. 282 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: He's taking a team to a Rose Bowl then a 283 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: damn national championship. What do you I was like, is 284 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: he going to the NFL? He shouldn't. They were like, nah, bro, 285 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: we got this kid on the bench named Marcus Mariota. 286 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, so what's I. 287 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: Was like a freshman. 288 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: They were like yes, Bro, They're like, so he's he's 289 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: probably gonna be our starter because you know, Darren's not 290 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: gonna want on a obviously, you know, compete for his 291 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: job or potentially lose his job, but we think he's better. 292 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am on this list. For me, there's no 293 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: Eli Holstein, which. 294 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: Why is Eli hosting not on this list? 295 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 296 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: And then if we're just planning for guys that you know, 297 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: I was probably. 298 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: This list for Eli Holsting and a heartbeat Julian saying also, 299 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: like you look at the situation he's gonna go into, 300 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: you got to say, like, I don't it's possible on 301 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: the list because we have not seen in a single 302 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: solitary like throw from him. 303 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Have we No. But if we're going to say people 304 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: that we've seen, like go off poor Man's John Mattier 305 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 2: as far as what he produced and where he produced it. 306 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Last year, you've got Devin damp here going to Utah 307 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: like there's yeah, I don't know, there's just I And 308 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: then think of, yeah, how far how far our guy 309 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: at Arizona has fallen? Or they're just saying without team 310 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: AC he's no, yep, yeah, without team Akkey's nothing. But 311 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: I don't know as the list as it stands, if 312 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: you reversed it, it would be a lot more digestible 313 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: for me. But when you put somebody in a number 314 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: one spot, you said, you know you don't think Arizona 315 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: State is going to make the college football Playoff in 316 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five six. 317 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 3: Well that's the expectation. 318 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: If you say they have the best returning quarterback in 319 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: the country. 320 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do believe that Utah is gonna win 321 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: the conference. The Big twelve. 322 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that'll be man. That would piss Big twelve 323 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: fans off so much. 324 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: To have Arizona State and then Utah and the backet 325 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: with yeah, yeah, that's that's just what I believe is 326 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: going to happen. All right, next thing up. Okay, so 327 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: eligibility matters and D two well, we already know about 328 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: the Diego Pavia lawsuit. So the Diego Pavia lawsuit essentially 329 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: made JUCO players their Juco years not count because when 330 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: they transfer to Division one, they have all their eligibility left. 331 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Because Juco's like a disco with books. It is good 332 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: for people. It is like, especially if you're on an 333 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: academic path, college is very expensive. It's actually a very 334 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: smart and affordable way to go to CO like it 335 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: is like there's nothing. So I'm in no way, shape 336 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: form or fashion like minimizing jucos because they are important. 337 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to a Jugu. There's a lot of 338 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: people going to juos. It also is not the level 339 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: of football that's going to prepare you for the next level. 340 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: So I'm not mad at the Diego Pavia rule. But 341 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: the Division two players are now saying, what about us? 342 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: What about us? Because we should get that same treatment 343 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: when we transfer up to Division one. Now I don't 344 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: share that same opinion, Ralph. 345 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: To be super clear, To be super clear, the JUCO 346 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: lawsuit hasn't done anything yet other than make the NCAA 347 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 2: back off for one year on guys who would have 348 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: graduated in twenty twenty five. 349 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: Right on you. Once you give an inch there, it's 350 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: it's that. It's it's like I sawkat Williams Special. He 351 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: was like, as you get older, have you ever noticed 352 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: that when you put on that you can't put on 353 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: ten pounds when you when you're twenty, in your twenties, 354 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: five pounds, you're like, oh my god, I take a dump. 355 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: But then when you get in your forties you put 356 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: on ten ten pounds, you look, it ain't going to 357 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: where it stuck with you for life at that point. 358 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: That's the way it is with the Double A. Every 359 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: time they lose an inch, it's like losing an inch 360 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: with your kids. You lose an inch with forget that 361 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: inch is gone. 362 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you anticipate this go but as far 363 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: as it goes right now, it's just an emergency injunction 364 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 2: for a one year thing. That's why Diego Pabia gets 365 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: to come back to And I noticed he wasn't on 366 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: that list. 367 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: On that top you had your adjunction also for the 368 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: transfer portal. You had injunctions for all of that too. 369 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Every inch, every inch lost, is an inch gone. But 370 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: to be very clear, quote don't let don't let people 371 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: borrow money unless you intend not to get it back. 372 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: If you can afford not to get it back, then 373 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: you should let them borrow it. 374 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: So, but to be really clear, NC double A is 375 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: different than the n cj AA or whatever, or the 376 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: one that's based out of Call of California or ng 377 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: A c A. There's two different juco associations. Neither one 378 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: of them are affiliated with the NC double A at all. 379 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: Correct, where Division two is affiliated with the Double A. 380 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not the same thing to me. And yes, 381 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: I know that everybody wants more time, more opportunities, but 382 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: I you know. 383 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: So this is and this is a Wisconsin kid. This 384 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: is a Wisconsin kid that filed this lawsuit that that 385 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: would get one more year nizer for Currion. Yes, and 386 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: he played at Grand Valley state and wants another year 387 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: at Wisconsin. 388 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: Hell, I would want another year with Wisconsin too. That's 389 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: another year of n I own money, another year of 390 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: free tuition, and another year of an opportunity to be 391 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: good enough to go to the NFL. I don't blame 392 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: him for wanting another year. 393 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: Do you think the NC doublation throw Wisconsin a bone? 394 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: After what just happened with the dB. The dB that 395 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: everyone knew wanted to go to Miami and Darren Heidner 396 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: helped him back out of He just unenrolled from Wisconsin 397 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: after they wouldn't grant his entry into the portal and 398 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: enrolled at at Miami to show that the transfer portal 399 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: actually isn't real. 400 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't even need to hop in the transfer 401 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: portal to transfer and be eligible in school, disenroll, and 402 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: then re enroll in school. So I don't think that Ralph. 403 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't believe that Division two athletes should be able 404 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: to when they transferred to Division one get an extra 405 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: year four years for those years that they were there. 406 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: I believe that you earned your way up, that you 407 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: did all of those things. But they're like, there's got 408 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: to be a clock on these things, right, Yeah, like 409 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: there has to be a clock, and we have already 410 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: seen with that additional COVID year how that impacted. And 411 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: then players who had to sit out that year got 412 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: another year on top of that year. Dude, Like we 413 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: got dudes on there that aren't even medicals that are 414 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: on like year seven in college football, they didn't even 415 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: get a medical year. So I do believe that like 416 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: that play five, that you get five to play five 417 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: is fine with me. Like, I'm I think that that's 418 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: probably the answer the way we're not worried about red 419 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: shirts and all of that stuff. Bro, you get five 420 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: to play five and then in rare circumstances will grant 421 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: you another year. That's all I got for you. 422 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: I think I think University of Phoenix should start a 423 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: team because it's adult learning institution. 424 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Oh my god, so that bro, do you know the 425 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: pool of play? 426 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: We should get a pool. We should get like a 427 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty six league. 428 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, because because you know what, then the next 429 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: lawsuit is going to be. 430 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: Eligibility is faceys schools? Oh that would be so brutal. 431 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: You don't you don't think that would be the next step? 432 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely think it is but D one to 433 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: D one or any transfer or just people should leave 434 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: whenever they want to or because technically. 435 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: That is going to be the next thing. It is 436 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: going to be somebody's gonna follow lawsuit. I want my 437 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: FCS years back because I transferred to the FBS. Then 438 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right. Man, I went from group 439 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: of five to power five. I need another year. Well, 440 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: technic gotta stop somewhere. Yeah, at some point in time. Now, 441 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: I tell the kids all the time, you are supposed 442 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: to be open minded. You are supposed to care about people. 443 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: You are supposed to listen to their plight. Try to 444 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: sew like you're supposed to be minded, but do not 445 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: be so open minded that your brains fall out. 446 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I so this is going to be the worst 447 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: comparison of all time. Look forward to you having a 448 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: new college football Apostles co host after this one. But 449 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: I if you read history books, right, if you read 450 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: history books, there was like probably a seventy eighty year 451 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: period where America's greatest men and thinkers and orators and 452 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: politicians were all kind and even people who were slave owners, 453 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: but they were all kind of in unison of like, yeah, 454 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: you're right, slavery's probably bad. But if we free everybody, 455 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: then we have to figure out everything else. Right, you 456 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: got to figure out. 457 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: To figure out how to how to get the labor 458 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: and pay for the labor and do all of these 459 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: things free people. 460 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: But so they went, they went generations past when when 461 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 2: they all pretty much knew that it had to come 462 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: to an end. 463 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: And because yes, yes, they keep kicking the can down 464 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: down down the street, and they're like, oh well, we'll 465 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: let the kids worry about that. 466 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: One, right, and that I so that, But the nc 467 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: double A for the longest time, they knew eventually they're 468 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,959 Speaker 2: going to get taken to court, they're gonna get their 469 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: clock clean, and then they were gonna have to deal 470 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 2: with every single other issue. And it's starting to seem 471 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: like just a will to not deal with the obvious 472 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: issues and lines we've drawn in college football, then it 473 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 2: was to defend anaturism. 474 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: So so the the House settlement that was approved, my 475 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: son who's in college, sent me the link for the 476 00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: for you to apply for that money, right and how 477 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: much you're gonna get and everything else, Like there are 478 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: players that I know that play during that time. They're 479 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: anticipating fifty thousand dollars checks, one hundred thousand dollars checks, 480 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff, right Like, I've seen kids that 481 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: are anywhere between like six hundred bucks and one hundred 482 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: thousand based upon the calculation in the settlement. Thing. The 483 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: settlement's not approved. They have until Friday the thirty first 484 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: for all objections to be in. There are already like 485 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen objections in already rolf. There is a 486 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: unless they just march forward and are like middle finger 487 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: to everybody, this thing is not getting approved. There are 488 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: new lawsuits keep coming up every thirty six seconds. There 489 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: are so many problems. There are Title nine problems with 490 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: the with the revenue sharing, with the with the past payments. 491 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: Why does it only stop here? Why doesn't it go 492 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: for dude? It is a It is an avalanche of 493 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: of nonsense. It would be bread. It would be much 494 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: better for for the NCAA to do what people do 495 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: in life when they have just fed up everything, file bankruptcy, 496 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: file bankruptcy, right like, they need to essentially file bankrupt 497 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: file Chapter eleven and close down the whole business and 498 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: reopened under a different name with different rules, and like 499 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: just just start it over instead of keep putting these 500 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: dumb ass band aids on everything. Ball it up, throw 501 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: it in the trash, start over. 502 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: That's take a queue from the American government and put 503 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: a chaos agent in charge who just changes the rules 504 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: every fifteen seconds. So you so all you have is 505 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: people just begging for a normal day that I don't 506 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know what the NCAA is gonna do. 507 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: And one of the worst things is it's giving credence 508 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: to these people saying that NIL ruined college football. No, 509 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: the NCAA ruined college football by not acting thirty years 510 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: ago when they started to allow coaches to take checks 511 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: directly from apparel companies, when you allowed everyone to get 512 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: rich except for the labor force. And then you get 513 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: surprised when people compare it to slavery, because oh, well, 514 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: they got there, they got their education paid for. You 515 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: don't think forced labor, indentured servitude were given the tools 516 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: and ability to learn a trade. They were given the 517 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: ability to learn a trade so that they could help 518 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: the people that owned them. That's why check your equipment, 519 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: your schooling, everything was office equipment. It was all to 520 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: edify and enrich. The NC double A is a system. 521 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't if that makes me sound like a crazy 522 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: lib it is what it is. The fact of the 523 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 2: matter is everyone got rich except for the labor force. 524 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Yep, dude. My freshman year when I was at Oregon, 525 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: so before you play a game, before you do anything, 526 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: they take you like. We practiced for a few days. 527 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Then we had a meeting that that night. It was 528 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 1: a compliance meeting. Everybody has to sign these papers, all 529 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: of this stuff like to be you know, like the 530 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: paperwork to be eligible and the NC double A government. 531 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: And I remember my freshman y or mind you, I'm 532 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: eighteen years old and I have no idea about the 533 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: legalities of things and everything. But they said that, yeah, 534 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna sign this paper. The NC double 535 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: A is gonna be able to use your name, image 536 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: and likeness in perpetuity. Blah blah blah. Just glanced over it. 537 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Me me being questioning man that I am, even at eighteen. 538 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I don't want to sign 539 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: that paper, I said, I did not want to sign up. 540 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: I was like, this makes no sense. Why would they 541 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: own my name, image and likeness and perpetuity perpetuity means forever, right, 542 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: And they were like, well, you have to sign the paper. 543 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm not signing the paper. Well if you can't sign it, 544 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: if you don't sign a paper, you can't play. They 545 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: had to call my parents, we had to call the 546 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: compliance department. Bro, I've ran this all the way up. 547 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: I had no clue. I just knew it was wrong. 548 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: And they were like, brothers, you cannot play if you 549 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: do not sign this paper. Is what we got to 550 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: And so I signed the paper, but I knew it 551 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: was wrong in the moment. I just didn't have a choice. 552 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I did have a choice to 553 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: not play college football, But what kind of choice is that? 554 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: Right? 555 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: Right? 556 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: And so it's very possible we move into the direction 557 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: of what baseball has going on. And people will tell 558 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 2: you there is no interest at all in minor league baseball. 559 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: But you think the NFL is going to help the 560 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: NCAA get more popular. They're already putting games on Saturdays. 561 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, now they're going to schedule with the college football 562 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: to try to Because here's the thing the NFL at least, 563 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: because I was talking to somebody who worked at Nike 564 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: about this, about why the NFL just throws the bird 565 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: to the NBA because them adding this eighteenth game, that's 566 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: going to happen. The NFL is either going to have 567 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: to back the season up a week, start a week earlier, 568 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: so start before Labor Day, or they're going to have 569 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: to start or they're going to have to finish a 570 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: week later, which then what is the week after the 571 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 572 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: Ralph or two start game? 573 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Yep, Star yep, the All Star Games a week after. 574 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: The NBA already moved the All Star Game once, it 575 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: moved it from before the Super Bowl, like that weekend 576 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl two. They moved it back now 577 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl so they can have their own weekend. 578 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: So football's finished. Well, the NFL ad the eighteenth game. 579 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: They've already taken Christmas like they just stomp on the NBA. 580 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: But at least with the NFL, I mean with college football, 581 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: the NFL actually has a vested interest in the players 582 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: and a relationship with the NCAA because they want the 583 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: top players out of college to be huge stars so 584 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: then when they go to the draft, the fans can 585 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: be excited know who the player that's So that's where 586 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: the relationship is. 587 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: We want that. 588 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: They want that in theory, but if it comes down 589 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 2: to bigger stars entering the NFL, a bigger paycheck from 590 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: the TV payouts, they picked TV every time, which brings 591 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: us to our next topic, the ACC. 592 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so high school ut football, Okay, so tell me 593 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: about these games. Okay, I'm gonna listen, James to you. 594 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: Kennesaw State at wake Forest on August twenty ninth. How 595 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: does the Colgate at Syracuse? They're like, okay, no big deal. 596 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: Florida State at Virginia My Louisville. Louis said that all weird. 597 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: I said, said that, like the Jacksonville head coach Duvo. 598 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Louisville at Miami. 599 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: That's the biggest day games of the year. 600 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: North Carolina at cal Cal at Virginia Tech. Damn they 601 00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: back to back weeks. North Carolina at Syracuse, Clemson at Louisville, 602 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: Florida State at NC State, Georgia at Georgia Tech. Those 603 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: all sound like good football games except for the first two, right. 604 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. No, that's seven great football games. The last seven. 605 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: They're all on Fridays. Ralph, all of those games are 606 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: on Fridays. So the ACC is doing what the PAC 607 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: twelve did was like, hey, we'll get people to watch 608 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: our games on Fridays. But the ratings say that people 609 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: are not going to watch those games on Friday, not 610 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: nearly at the level that they would watch them on Saturday. 611 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: So if they get if you do two million on 612 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: a Friday, you've done a great thing. That's like four 613 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: million on a Saturday, four million plus actually four maybe 614 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: five million on a Saturday. So the ACC is watering 615 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: down its product, the availability, and now like, so, now 616 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 1: I gotta choose between going to a big time high 617 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: school football game and watching Florida State at Virginia. 618 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 2: And look at dude, look at Louisville. Louisville's got their 619 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 2: game against Miami and their game against Clemson, both on Fridays. 620 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: That means that if Louisville comes out and they're on 621 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: a heater next year, that you've eliminated their two best 622 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: opportunities to get college game day. 623 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: Damn. 624 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: And the ESPN is who drove this decision to put 625 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: these games on Friday anyway. 626 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's just a reinforcement Texas. 627 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a second class citizen league. ESPN and 628 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 2: and the ACC are collaborating to make sure everybody knows 629 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 2: that you're gonna have Bill Belichick twice on Friday nights. 630 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: Who's gonna watch it? Because the see here here. The 631 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: other problem is the recruiting problem. Kids are playing on 632 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: Fridays and you can't even get them on campus to 633 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: your games on Fridays. This is why I hate Friday 634 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 1: night games. I understand that they exist for a reason, 635 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: but but these big times, but all of these a 636 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: SEC games on Friday is bad for the conference. 637 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, so let's say you're CAL Berkeley, right, so your 638 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: your Cal. You uh, you are a prestigious academic institution. 639 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: You don't recruit nationally in the way that Stanford recruits nationally, 640 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 2: but you you do get who you can. 641 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. 642 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: Right, You've gotten kids from from the Southeast and they've 643 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,720 Speaker 2: been some of your best players. 644 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: Jared Kiwi sup into it, Telly. 645 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they got him out at a Hawaii like they 646 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 2: recruit nationally Cal does. 647 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. 648 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 2: Now you have the opportunity to go out to North Carolina, 649 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: which is a second tier football state as far as 650 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: high school football. They got they got a lot of 651 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 2: really really good options. Right, you get the opportunity to 652 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 2: go out to North Carolina because you had to join 653 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: up with the ACC. And you say to yourself, well, 654 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 2: at least on that Friday night, we can get our 655 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: coaches out to some games to see if we can't 656 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: boost our recruiting profile, convince some people to move out 657 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: to the Bay. 658 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: No, you can't because your game. 659 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: So you actually wasted a trip to the damn East 660 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: Coast right because your game against Virginia Tech at school 661 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: on Thursday instead of Actually, but then you're not even 662 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: gonna see them at school on Thursday because you've got 663 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: to be in practice. 664 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're not and yeah, and then your school 665 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: week has an interruption because then you got to travel 666 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: on a Wednesday instead of a instead of a Friday, 667 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: because you're playing on Friday. So it's I don't know, 668 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 2: I've never liked Friday. I've always been against Friday games. 669 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: I think Saturday is for college football. But the ACC 670 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: intentionally doing what I mean this used to be the 671 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 2: PAC twelve apostles. We watched the conference fall apart. To 672 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: watch the ACC do this fascinating. But they're also doing 673 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: it on the heels of signing or essentially like locking 674 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: in with ESPN until twenty thirty six. 675 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, all right, final thing up. So the Michigan Wolverines, 676 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: they have now gone on the offensive against the NCUBA, 677 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: with the Connor Stallions, lawsuits and you know, accusations and everything. 678 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: They are going on the offensive and they're saying, you 679 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: know what, we did some of what you said, but 680 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: not all of it. So we don't want no heavy punishment. 681 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: We are going to And I love this. I think 682 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: that USC should have done this when it came to 683 00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, that yes, you were supposed to fight even 684 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: if you I mean, our legal system teaches us this. 685 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: I see you on tape stealing boxes, I saw you 686 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 1: hit her, I saw shit. But how do you how 687 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: do you please not guilty? And and and this drives 688 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: normal humans crazy because they're like, what do you mean 689 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: not guilty? 690 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: We see you doing it. 691 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: But here's the thing it is, and it teaches us 692 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: to fight to the death and try to get your 693 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: punishment lower. And that's exactly what Michigan is doing. This 694 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: is not about them coming out smelling like roses. This 695 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: is about Michigan is in a they feel like they're 696 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: in a good spot football wise, and they don't want 697 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,800 Speaker 1: to end up losing recruits, players going into transfer portal 698 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: because they got a bowld band and all of this stuff. 699 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 1: This is this is why they're fighting it. It has 700 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do with whether they believe that they're guilty 701 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 1: or innocent or anything else, because they're copping to some 702 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: of it. But they're saying, I wasn't as bad as 703 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: you think. Other people are doing it this like they 704 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: are trying. They want this punishment when it comes down 705 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: to be as minimal as possible. 706 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what you that's what lawyers do. 707 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 2: They're gonna fight. I I'm not one hundred percent sure 708 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 2: it's their best option, but I guess they leave the 709 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: door open to always just turn around and cooperate. You know, 710 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: I guess if you you got to push back to 711 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: a certain extent. The lawyers for Michigan saying that like 712 00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: you can't prove it, you can't prove it, and you 713 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 2: can't prove its impact is is strange because it's either 714 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 2: a rule violation or it's not. And so to get 715 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty and say like that, because what 716 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: they said about the Connor Stallions h paying for people's 717 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: tickets to film sidelines doing advanced scouting using video to 718 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: do it. That what they're saying is that, like you 719 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 2: can't prove that impact of that, yes, which is a 720 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 2: then why like why do it? If it if it 721 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 2: provides you negligible advantage, why even do it? 722 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: And so. 723 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 2: Michigan is they're wilding out on this. To me, Sharon 724 00:43:53,760 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 2: Moore has deleted text messages to Connor Stallions the end. Yeah, right, 725 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: and they've chosen to stand by Sharon Moore. I I 726 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: personally know that. I sure we've talked about it on 727 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 2: this show. So it's no surprise Sharon Moore. When Jim 728 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: Harbaugh was the coach, he was tampering. I told you 729 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 2: a player was going to Michigan while he was still 730 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 2: on the roster of another school. I told you it 731 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: was Sharon Moore who reached out to and then that 732 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 2: exact thing ended up happening. Like they were, they were 733 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 2: doing whatever was available to them to be successful. And 734 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 2: now if they want to turn around and say, yeah, 735 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 2: you caught us, but it really wasn't that big of 736 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 2: a deal. And so you know, we don't want to 737 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 2: have all of the punishments in the world. I guess 738 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 2: I look at what Arizona State went through, and you know, 739 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 2: they also it was a self reported deal. And that's 740 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 2: what Michigan is saying that this is it kind of 741 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 2: sounds like they're trying to fish out a rat a 742 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 2: little bit in reading the that they're saying the NCUBA 743 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 2: is basing way too much on witness testimony, which is 744 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 2: essentially hearsay, because how can you just straight up believe 745 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: somebody if we've gone and deleted text messages, you don't 746 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 2: know what they said. And the NCAA is trying to say, like, well, 747 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: the deleted text messages are the point, yes, And Michigan's 748 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 2: layers are like, nuh uh. They could have been about 749 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: lunch orders. So you know, if you want to get 750 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 2: into the nitty grip, I think it just keeps it 751 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 2: in the news cycle. 752 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: There's a difference. See, this is why there's a difference 753 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: between civil lawsuits and criminal lawsuits. Criminal lawsuits beyond a 754 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt, civil lawsuits more likely than not, Like you're 755 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: dealing with fifty one forty nine and reasonable people are like, 756 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like the whole idea of like 757 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: what would a guilt the person do. The problem with 758 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: it is is that sometimes people panic and do weird 759 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 1: stuff even when they're innocent. That's the issue. So Michigan 760 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 1: is smart for fighting this. Are they right? Probably not? 761 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: But who's right who's wrong in this world? 762 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Sharon Moore deleted fifty 763 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: text messages to Connor Stallion's on the day that Yahoo 764 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 2: Sports broke the story, Like, if I'm the NC DOUABLEA, 765 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: what I offer in a Michigan it is give us 766 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: the text messages. Because Sharon Moore can do that. He 767 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 2: can go through his wireless carrier, he can everything's backed up. 768 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 2: Give us the text messages and will We're more interested 769 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 2: in the truth and how to prevent this next time 770 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: than we are in punishing you. The investigation essentially is 771 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 2: the punishment. That's how it was for Arizona State. Give 772 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 2: us the texts. You give us the texts. 773 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's see the text. 774 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I would at this point, if I'm the 775 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 2: NC double A, I would rather wrap this up and 776 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: be correct than be overly punitive because Michigan is not 777 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 2: giving back a national title and any sanctions that affect 778 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: Michigan in the future, They're going to continue to fight forever. 779 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 2: So if I'm the NC double A, I say those 780 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: fifty two text messages and we'll call we'll call it, 781 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 2: We'll just call it. Even we're going to show cause 782 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 2: Connor stallions because you can't do what he did. Yes, 783 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 2: but those text messages, And if Michigan doesn't agree, then 784 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: then the NC double A is like f you, then. 785 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,400 Speaker 1: Bro those texts. I just can't even image and what 786 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: the hell is in those texts? It could be something 787 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal, or it could be 788 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: something that is a major deal. I need that phone 789 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: about you, And I would be willing to bet that 790 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: Michigan confiscated that phone because if it were the work phone, 791 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 1: they can access that and they can go back and 792 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, forensically figure out what was deleted in everything else. 793 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 2: This is the type of stuff that if you fight 794 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 2: it too hard, what you're going to end up with 795 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 2: is college coaches, all recruiting, everything is going to have 796 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 2: to take place in a trackable system like teams or 797 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 2: something like that, and then any communication outside of the 798 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 2: recruiting platform and the coach communication platform is going to 799 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 2: be considered an infraction. That's what you're going to end 800 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 2: up with is all communication of any kind is going 801 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 2: to have to exist in a place where where all 802 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 2: out in the open, assuming the NC DOUBLEA retains any 803 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: power whatsoever. But if I'm the NC double A, that's 804 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,800 Speaker 2: what I'm going to end up doing. I'm going to 805 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 2: get get everybody on Microsoft teams and say, like if 806 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: if you're if your coach is talking to coach, and 807 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 2: then you have to you have to employ somebody who's 808 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 2: essentially like the ia B of your college to track 809 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 2: to make sure that everybody's doing stuff that they should, 810 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 2: flagging anything that they shouldn't and addressing it like you're 811 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: You're gonna end up with a really, really in depth 812 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 2: tracking system for all communications just because one person doesn't 813 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 2: want to turn his text messages over because they definitely 814 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: implicate him. Yeah, Michigan fans are going to say, like, 815 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: we that were harping on a thing that doesn't matter. 816 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 2: If it didn't matter, why delete the text. Any Michigan fan, 817 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: if Ohio State was going through this right now, would 818 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,359 Speaker 2: be saying the same thing. So I don't I don't 819 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 2: have any sympathy from They got a national championship out 820 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: of the deal. No one's coming to take it away. 821 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,919 Speaker 2: Zero sympathy for Michigan fans. I don't care how sick 822 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 2: of it they are. I don't care how much they 823 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 2: hate the Ncuba. Where are the text messages? That's the 824 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 2: end of the conversation, that. 825 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: The text You are and you guys. That is the 826 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: college football apostles for this week. Make sure that you like, subscribe, 827 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 1: get notifications, and tell a friend about the show. Peace Out, 828 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: Catch you guys next week.