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Speaker 2: Jill No, we had a pretty good weekend This weekend. Man,
Speaker 2: we celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of Minister Society. Man had
Speaker 2: tiring the homeboy. The homies showed up, Man, what's happening?
Speaker 2: Partner Samuel Monroe, And it was pretty good.
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool, little turn little hang out. You know,
Speaker 3: nothing nothing big, nothing major, just you know, really just
Speaker 3: a gang of homies just kicking it well.
Speaker 2: Yang homies, Yeah, gang homies, homegirls. It was cool man.
Speaker 2: You know what though, Bro, that's the second time we
Speaker 2: don't put something together in a few days, man, and
Speaker 2: we get a decent little turnout. Man, I'm thinking. Man,
Speaker 2: I was talking to Homie Man from eighty five South Man.
Speaker 2: He was telling me he think we need to go
Speaker 2: on to go on the road, man, Man, real stuff.
Speaker 2: We'll see how it work, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: If we get support, you know what I'm saying, that's all,
Speaker 2: and do it on your own. Man. Oh for shure,
Speaker 2: for sure, man, for sure. You know it's been a
Speaker 2: the thing everybody been talking about the internet. Man. Is
Speaker 2: the woman in Chicago, man who had got you know
Speaker 2: who was assaulted in that wrisk rant but the dude
Speaker 2: punched on her, Carlicia Hood, her and her son they
Speaker 2: got off. Man.
Speaker 3: I've been following the story A little bit started, A
Speaker 3: little video whatever do anybody like what was they even
Speaker 3: arguing about.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I know he was punching on
Speaker 2: her like she was a punching bag.
Speaker 1: Well I saw the video.
Speaker 3: They was arguing about something and he was like, man,
Speaker 3: just get your food and go. Just get your food
Speaker 3: and go. Lady, just get your food and go. So
Speaker 3: is that, like? I don't know what that was, because
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta be able to let me tell
Speaker 3: you something. I say this shit all the time, and
Speaker 3: this as far as miss far as nils. You feel me,
Speaker 3: you can't hang with no female when it comes to
Speaker 3: that mouth man. A female won't let them bombs, drop
Speaker 3: you down, kick you under the table, roll you in
Speaker 3: some flour, nigga, and put you into hot grease. You
Speaker 3: feel me. You cannot hang with no If you ain't
Speaker 3: got no control you you gonna get pissed the hell
Speaker 3: off because a woman can dig deep. When it comes
Speaker 3: to talking shit, we can't. I don't give a fuck
Speaker 3: who you are. You be the best shit talker of
Speaker 3: the world, nigga. I get paid to talk shit, you
Speaker 3: feel me. But when it comes to arguing, when the female,
Speaker 3: you cannot motherfucking go toe to toe So that being said,
Speaker 3: you got to have a high level of tolerance and control, man,
Speaker 3: because you already know what it is when you touch
Speaker 3: on a woman and you get me, You're going down.
Speaker 3: You just can't do it. So what I'm saying is
Speaker 3: he I don't know he being provoked. I don't know
Speaker 3: he yelling and screaming, get your food, lady, and.
Speaker 1: Get out of here. I'm telling you you better get
Speaker 1: your food.
Speaker 3: And you say one and he was like, if you
Speaker 3: say one more thing, I'm finna take off. But why
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because let's face it, even
Speaker 3: if even if the situation, let's say the situation didn't
Speaker 3: result in him getting popped, right, you beating on a
Speaker 3: woman on camera, right, You're not finna get away with
Speaker 3: that situation. You get me, and then when you get
Speaker 3: arrested and you get thrown in jail, motherfucker's in jail
Speaker 3: probably like, oh damn, you beat on the nigga's mama.
Speaker 4: They asking for paper?
Speaker 3: Are we finna get your You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I wonder what, like you said, still, I don't know,
Speaker 3: Maybe it's another story to it, because why did they
Speaker 3: just start? What are they just you know how motherfuckers
Speaker 3: get into it all the time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You customers in line, and you see it. You see
Speaker 3: it all the time, see it all the time. And
Speaker 3: they got motherfucking little show right now where you see
Speaker 3: motherfuckers and walmarts and stores and restaurants, gas stations and
Speaker 3: they customers and they getting into it with each other.
Speaker 2: They got Curvillians video of this man, and they say
Speaker 2: the civilians. Video outside of the restaurant shows the team
Speaker 2: into the restaurant. I guess she had been texting her
Speaker 2: son while they were in there arguing, and cell phone
Speaker 2: video from inside shows Brown punching Hood at least three
Speaker 2: times in the head and face. Prosecute to see it
Speaker 2: that when the team pulled out a gun from its
Speaker 2: hoodie and shot Brown the back. Brown fled the restaurant,
Speaker 2: but the team followed them outside the five more shots
Speaker 2: at the hood told them to shoot and kill him.
Speaker 2: He was shut twice in the back and later died
Speaker 2: miss injuries. See that's that's where it gets kind of
Speaker 2: a slippery slope. That that's where it's kind of a
Speaker 2: slippery slope because the threat is at that time no
Speaker 2: more threat. This dude, don't ran off the restaurant, but ship,
Speaker 2: that's the same situation. Like my nigga who who?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 3: The female sent the niggas over to his crib and
Speaker 3: after he ran in the house, they ran away, right,
Speaker 3: they ran away, jumped in their car, he came out dumping. So,
Speaker 3: like I said, at what level do you consider like, okay,
Speaker 3: them them them, them dudes is gone, so fucking I'm
Speaker 3: gonna let off in the heat of in the heat
Speaker 3: of the motherfucking moment, and that's your mama. I'm about
Speaker 3: to chase this motherfucker from here to the fucking next
Speaker 3: corners dumping, you get me, especially if the nigga socking
Speaker 3: on my mama like a dude. Man, sure, man, I'm
Speaker 3: about to chase this nigga down.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: When you see that, alrighttionale goes out.
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, it goes out And Okay, she texting em
Speaker 3: like get the gun or something. Yeah, cause the nigga
Speaker 3: in here hollering and fucking screaming at me telling me
Speaker 3: you say one more motherfucking thing, I'm gonna sock the
Speaker 3: shit out of you. Okay, let me just texting, motherfucker
Speaker 3: right quick? Hey, uh, get the pistol out the glove
Speaker 3: compartment and come on in here. And then I walk
Speaker 3: through the door and I see my mom on the
Speaker 3: ground and the nigga standing.
Speaker 4: Over Popop Pop Pop.
Speaker 3: I'm letting, I'm letting all they all going, they all going.
Speaker 2: And it's so you know the thing is, man, it's
Speaker 2: very dangerous, man. That's why I tell people, man, it's
Speaker 2: best to play the high power cover. Man. I don't
Speaker 2: do no kind of extra talking man when I'm in
Speaker 2: places where I don't know people, man, because it can
Speaker 2: go down that quick. You could lose your life or
Speaker 2: wound up taking somebody's life that quick.
Speaker 3: You don't know who carry pistols, That's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: That's ship man. You emails carry pistols too. So and
Speaker 3: like I said, you don't know what the story is.
Speaker 3: But if it's just some random ass motherfuckers is in
Speaker 3: the rec the little shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I don't know a wrong look or whatever, I mean,
Speaker 3: what caused them to get into it, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Especially when you look at it as a
Speaker 3: female and a dude. It wasn't like it was two
Speaker 3: dudes in there. Arguing her two females. So is there
Speaker 3: another story behind you know, him being that motherfucking furious
Speaker 3: to where he ready to take off on her because
Speaker 3: of words she talking and she didn't seem like, you know,
Speaker 3: she didn't seem sister irate.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: She wasn't doing She wasn't doing the neck you know,
Speaker 3: and the pointing and like you know, nigga, you this,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It seemed pretty car He was pretty
Speaker 3: motherfucking adamant.
Speaker 4: From what I understand. The brother got man. He was
Speaker 4: telling her to her up and get her riot order,
Speaker 4: and she was. She just basically told him like do it,
Speaker 4: I'm not finishing order and hold on, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So he got pissed off and got to talking.
Speaker 2: Ship that due piss you off sometimes though when you're hongry, man,
Speaker 2: it's somebody. Because I'm gonna tell you women got that good.
Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna tell you this, bro, my girl on
Speaker 2: been to Windy's a million times or make Donalds. But
Speaker 2: she get up there in front of that thing and
Speaker 2: will do this. But like, man, you don't know if.
Speaker 3: You want to Hamburger Maria slap the back of your
Speaker 3: deck when you walk at the door tonight talking about
Speaker 3: what you're talking about before you with these trips, what
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 2: They say they don't want nothing, But then be over
Speaker 2: that reaching for your French for us and all that.
Speaker 1: Ship that Nigga said Maria going there and she'll be like.
Speaker 2: Just looking at that. You know, we got to introduce
Speaker 2: our guests today, man. We got to introduce our guests
Speaker 2: because a lot of the stems back to mental health, man,
Speaker 2: to mental health, and I think in the black community, man,
Speaker 2: we definitely definitely you know, if you look at the
Speaker 2: stuff that's just online, man, in the common section, you
Speaker 2: will see a lot of people down there need help, man.
Speaker 4: You know. Yeah. And and first of all, my name
Speaker 4: is the ball Game Thanker from San Diego, California. I
Speaker 4: really appreciate a sure still for having me on the show. Man.
Speaker 4: It's a blessing to be here, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And to all the gangs, the chronicle goons out there,
Speaker 4: and much respect to you guys as well. My professional background,
Speaker 4: you know, I went to school, went to Ohio State
Speaker 4: for a little bit, got out Ohio State. I ended
Speaker 4: up going to Liberty University in Virginia, I got my degree.
Speaker 4: Then I ended up getting my master's degree from Liberty
Speaker 4: University as well in communication and human services. And currently
Speaker 4: right now, I'm a licensed clinical social worker and mental health.
Speaker 4: Mental health is always been, as always been at the
Speaker 4: forefront of the black communities. The problem with the black
Speaker 4: community is that we don't think that we that were crazy.
Speaker 4: They don't think they don't think that they don't think
Speaker 4: that they need help, you know. You and I was
Speaker 4: talking earlier today about you know, especially black men. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, if you tell a brother, hey man,
Speaker 4: once you go talk to somebody, you once you go
Speaker 4: seek some therapy, you know what I'm saying, get some
Speaker 4: cognitive behavioral therapy or something to go to some group sessions,
Speaker 4: you know, first thing or brother. You know. And I've
Speaker 4: had some of the hommies tell me, you know, ball
Speaker 4: fuck that you know, I ain't crazy, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't need that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But they not realizing that they're dealing with all sorts
Speaker 4: of traumas. You know what I'm saying. You got a
Speaker 4: lot of black men, they deal with trauma in their
Speaker 4: lives just from being a black man. You know, in society,
Speaker 4: you know, we don't realize that, you know, shit, when
Speaker 4: the police do you guys get a little anxiety when
Speaker 4: the police get behind y'all. I always say, yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I would say, you know, in my early days of
Speaker 3: of stomping the neighborhood, you know, or you know, typically
Speaker 3: hell yeah, it would be you get them butterflies in
Speaker 3: that nervousness when you see them boys get behind you,
Speaker 3: and especially when they ain't even ran the lights yet,
Speaker 3: they just following you for a minute. You start anticipating
Speaker 3: to pull over. You feel me.
Speaker 4: But see what that's trauma right there. You did what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. We go outside the path.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I tell my son all
Speaker 4: the time is that, you know, make sure you keep
Speaker 4: your head on the swivel. And I teach him how
Speaker 4: to deal with the police if they do fuck with him.
Speaker 4: You know, he's a productive young brother. He ain't never
Speaker 4: been in no trouble or nothing. You know, me, myself
Speaker 4: and all his uncles. You know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 4: was gang bangers, not gang members. Gang bangers. There's a difference.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm part of the Zipper club,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and kind of you know,
Speaker 4: dish it out myself. A lot of people don't realize
Speaker 4: that all that shit that we used to do back
Speaker 4: in the days is affecting us mentally today, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And we refuse to seek help for
Speaker 4: our traumas that we've been dealing with, deaths, fucked up relationships.
Speaker 4: I can go on. You know, racism, systemic racism. You
Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. These are traumas that Black men
Speaker 4: and women deal with. Black women are dealing with trauma
Speaker 4: right now. They don't even realize it. You know, they
Speaker 4: talking this shit right now. That's why I used to
Speaker 4: love the brother Kevin Samuel's rest in peace. You know that.
Speaker 4: You know a lot of these independent black women right
Speaker 4: now Black well, let me say this, Black women demographically.
Speaker 4: You know, these sisters out here doing their thing. So
Speaker 4: we got to tip our hats off to them. They
Speaker 4: out here getting educated, getting their master's degrees, They out
Speaker 4: here getting this money, They doing what they do. You
Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. They talk that shit. They don't
Speaker 4: need a man, But what happens is they not realizing
Speaker 4: that they're dealing with the traumas of fucked up relationships
Speaker 4: with us?
Speaker 2: And oftentimes you know, I notice in the black community,
Speaker 2: black women that's taught by their mothers, Oh you don't
Speaker 2: need a man. I know you know me and are producer.
Speaker 2: We was talking earlier. Were both from Cleveland, and I
Speaker 2: would have generation it was generations of people. Man. I
Speaker 2: would see generations of people man where the grandma stayed
Speaker 2: in the house, didn't have no man. Then she have
Speaker 2: a daughter, the daughter grew up, have kids, they don't
Speaker 2: have no man in there. They all live together, but
Speaker 2: they all got a whole church full of kids. Right,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of kids in their man and they
Speaker 2: all kind of talk that they don't need a man
Speaker 2: in their life.
Speaker 4: Well, I think this is the thing still, it's you know,
Speaker 4: the thing is you do have those particular situations where
Speaker 4: some sisters grew up in households where like as you're
Speaker 4: saying that they seen that their grandmother didn't have a man,
Speaker 4: probably died alone. But you still have a bunch of
Speaker 4: brothers and sisters who actually grew up in two parent
Speaker 4: household two grandmother and grandfather households like I did you
Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying? So I understand what a traditional
Speaker 4: healthy relation ship looks like.
Speaker 3: I grew up in I grew up in a single
Speaker 3: family house. I mean, my parents were together for a
Speaker 3: time before they got divorced. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I don't know how it was for you growing up.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what you saw in the household?
Speaker 3: Or I grew up in the two parent household, and
Speaker 3: how was it for you? I had a stepfather, see
Speaker 3: my stepdad. I got my stepdad's last name, okay, because
Speaker 3: I went to school one day and I kept wondering
Speaker 3: while my last name was one thing and my brothers
Speaker 3: and I asked my mama one day, I said, Hey,
Speaker 3: how come they last name is this? How come we
Speaker 3: don't all have the same last name?
Speaker 4: How old were you when you asked her? That?
Speaker 2: Man? I was about eight years old. And then with
Speaker 2: my stepdaddy did he heard that? And my mama just
Speaker 2: told me this man that my stepdad he winning the
Speaker 2: newspaper and win his little cigar box where he kept
Speaker 2: his money at And when it got an attorney went
Speaker 2: and ran to ad and Ohio where my real dad
Speaker 2: was at. He went to Agron and ran add in
Speaker 2: Summer County so he could see and contested if he
Speaker 2: wanted to. Then nobody ever contested. So he took me
Speaker 2: to place and all I remember is putting my hands up,
Speaker 2: making this oath my last My last name has been
Speaker 2: Steel from then on.
Speaker 1: But so was that because.
Speaker 3: Moms and original Pops was never and it was just
Speaker 3: what it or was it was it abuse?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 3: Moms was like, I got to get the hell away
Speaker 3: from this, dude.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you it wasn't you know me. And
Speaker 2: just for the record, me and my biological father have
Speaker 2: a great relationship. You now, he a whole different man.
Speaker 2: You know, he was a young dude when all this
Speaker 2: was happening. So we ben forgave him for all that, right,
Speaker 2: But at the time it was some abuse.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: You know, my pops liked to put this, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, that's what they did.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of a lot, but a lot
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of uh us that came from that.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: You know, my father, you know, went to the military,
Speaker 3: was in the Navy, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 3: worked at General Motors and all of that, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you know, it'd be situations to where you know, it
Speaker 3: just don't work. So Mom's left, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like you said, it might have been physical and abusive.
Speaker 3: And even though Mom's left and it was me and
Speaker 3: my sister and my brother, and you know, you never
Speaker 3: saw any significant like I didn't get no stepdaddy, you
Speaker 3: get me. Uh, you know it was I was on
Speaker 3: the block, man, So I don't know if I saw,
Speaker 3: you know, or took what I saw as a kid
Speaker 3: in the household with my parents, and and that reflected
Speaker 3: on me because.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't take that route you know some dudes took
Speaker 3: when it came to females and my my household, it
Speaker 3: was my mama.
Speaker 1: My sister was older.
Speaker 3: The attitude wasn't fucking nigga in the household because we
Speaker 3: came from a different generation parents.
Speaker 4: She didn't want to convey that myss moms.
Speaker 3: You know, like my parents, My moms came from Mississippi.
Speaker 3: So you gotta understand growing up in that time, you know,
Speaker 3: in the in the forties and fifties and shit, definitely.
Speaker 1: It was different.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, you know, the dude left the household
Speaker 3: or whatever, and it became this, I don't need a
Speaker 3: motherfucking nigga or fucking nigga WHOOPI woo. It didn't have
Speaker 3: that that. It didn't have that attitude. So I didn't
Speaker 3: see that, you know, growing up where even though it
Speaker 3: didn't work out, it was like, oh no, my sister
Speaker 3: was taught, you know, fucking.
Speaker 1: Nigga out there, you don't need no nigga.
Speaker 2: It looked like my house either.
Speaker 3: My sister, you know, she's been married to her husband
Speaker 3: for decades.
Speaker 4: But see, some of these relationships teaches us. You understand,
Speaker 4: I'm saying how to how to actually go into a
Speaker 4: relationship and learn how to deal with not only the
Speaker 4: good but the adversities of the relationships. A lot of
Speaker 4: people are staying together longer. I'm glad that eight said
Speaker 4: that because I grew up in a household like you
Speaker 4: still were. My younger brother's dad was a stepdad, but
Speaker 4: I was never really receptive to this motherfucker, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And because I had two older brothers
Speaker 4: who kind of who I looked up to as a
Speaker 4: dad because our father wasn't worth the fuck did what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, So my dad taught me what not to be,
Speaker 4: and that's the.
Speaker 2: Same thing to even do. My dad is probably the
Speaker 2: greatest grand in the world now, right, And.
Speaker 1: Why but why did we have that though?
Speaker 3: Why do you think that generation and era of men
Speaker 3: and fathers were like you said, it wasn't fucking shit.
Speaker 2: Like, We're gonna tell you what I learned, what I
Speaker 2: got from it, and this is how I got the right, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: And this is how I got to get to being
Speaker 2: cool with my dad, right, What I found out that
Speaker 2: my dad. You gotta understand my grandmother, Well, my first
Speaker 2: of all, well, my grandfather came from Memphis, Tennessee. He
Speaker 2: had a whole nother family down there, and he came
Speaker 2: up north, met my grandmother and I think had fourteen kids.
Speaker 2: They fourteen kids from my dad and them. So it
Speaker 2: was a time to where Grandpa would just disappear sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm talking about six months a year, So my grandmother
Speaker 2: trying to take care of eighteen kids, right, and they
Speaker 2: all like a year apart, and in some cases nine
Speaker 2: ten months. You know what I'm saying, It's crazy, right.
Speaker 2: So what I found out about my dad is that
Speaker 2: they a lot of time and you know, they would
Speaker 2: go to the boys home, the foster system. And what
Speaker 2: I found out is that my dad's older one of
Speaker 2: the older brothers, my uncle Bookie, had went and got
Speaker 2: all of them because they was all separated. So he
Speaker 2: broke out of his spot the foster home he was in.
Speaker 2: He left and went and got all his brothers and
Speaker 2: sisters and took them out the acting because you know,
Speaker 2: he had started running the streets. My uncles was hardcore pimps.
Speaker 2: You know, during that time I had uncles. I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna name all their names, but you know they was pimping, right,
Speaker 2: So once they started getting their money up, they went
Speaker 2: and got all their brothers and sisters and went back.
Speaker 2: So I would have to say that my father was
Speaker 2: only doing He was better than his father now, but
Speaker 2: they didn't know no better because with example that they
Speaker 2: draw from.
Speaker 4: Well, well, your uncle man, he had to know something, man,
Speaker 4: because you don't get too many people that go back
Speaker 4: and get all their siblings to keep everybody together.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. And to this day they
Speaker 2: all like you, but not say nothing about his brother's
Speaker 2: and sisters. Jay would get into a fight with you.
Speaker 2: And and the thing I learned is I knew what
Speaker 2: I didn't want as far as me being a man.
Speaker 2: I always said, I'm not gonna I tried my best
Speaker 2: not to have no just a bunch of kids running around, right.
Speaker 2: And I knew that when I did have kids, I
Speaker 2: always gonna be in their lives right right. And I
Speaker 2: knew that once I had my woman, we was gonna
Speaker 2: stay together through thick and thing, no matter what happened.
Speaker 4: But but see, but but like I said, and I'm
Speaker 4: an interject back off, what they was saying is that
Speaker 4: you you you you saw some things, and you seen
Speaker 4: some things and you and you and subconsciously you said,
Speaker 4: you know what, that's what I'm not going to be.
Speaker 4: Because one thing that my father did teach me, he
Speaker 4: taught me my my my biological dad actually made me
Speaker 4: into the man that I am today. You did what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, right, because I didn't want to be like
Speaker 4: this smoke exactly. You know what I'm saying. He wasn't ship,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I told myself that
Speaker 4: I wasn't that I wasn't gonna be like him. And
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like you. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: All three of my kids just by the same chick.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't just out there
Speaker 4: slinging Weenie and and and and you know, having these
Speaker 4: kids by all these different personalities. You did you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was responsible, you know, had a
Speaker 4: I mean, did did my thing, did my you know,
Speaker 4: jumping through windows and sliding up in some brawls and
Speaker 4: all that. But I always was responsible. My older brother
Speaker 4: would always tell me, might keep a raincoat on your shit.
Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying, and all those types of things,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So my older brother, Anthony,
Speaker 4: rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I miss you, my brother. You know that brother taught
Speaker 4: me a hole like he. My older brother Anthony was
Speaker 4: my dad man. And my older brother Levan followed shut
Speaker 4: once my l once my brother passed away from cancer.
Speaker 4: My older brother Levan, he followed suit and uh and
Speaker 4: and I had five brothers and six of us, and
Speaker 4: you know, and we kept a tight knitch, such as
Speaker 4: your uncles and his siblings as well. You did what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And my family was a bunch of females.
Speaker 4: But all my aunts were married and they all they
Speaker 4: are all my uncles. They they they were married and
Speaker 4: some of them, some of them the ones that are living.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, they're still with their husbands today.
Speaker 4: So I know what it's like to be in a
Speaker 4: healthy and long lasting relationship, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: My only problem is that, you know, before I got
Speaker 4: into a relationship with my kids mother. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I you know, me being a sagittariust man.
Speaker 4: I just like women, man. And then you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, it was shit. If it was a shit,
Speaker 4: if I could shit, I've had three or four wives
Speaker 4: in the house.
Speaker 2: You know what though, Man. The thing is, I had
Speaker 2: a very strong female presence in my life too. Like
Speaker 2: my grandmama had a pistols. So when my dad did
Speaker 2: come over there because he would be on some stuff
Speaker 2: to where I'm coming. I'm coming to get my son,
Speaker 2: and my grandmother was like the pistol, like, no, niggas,
Speaker 2: you ain't coming up here with that, you know, because
Speaker 2: my dad, let me know what, they wasn't all innocent.
Speaker 2: They shot at me, my grandmother because at the time
Speaker 2: I don't know if you all remember back in the day.
Speaker 2: I'm from the Midwest, they used to have what you
Speaker 2: call outhouses. Yeah, yeah, you know the bathroom Mississippi too.
Speaker 2: You know, my grandmother threw the pists pot on my
Speaker 2: dad before he came up there talking, and they timed
Speaker 2: it as soon as he get to the door. They
Speaker 2: just opened up the door and they threw that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: They did some crazy stuff to my brother that can
Speaker 4: cause hepatitis.
Speaker 1: Man, man, they give a fuck.
Speaker 3: They was like, getting your ass up out of here,
Speaker 3: coming around here with that ship. Why why why are
Speaker 3: you running off with pitts with pists all? Did he
Speaker 3: right it off with pints and getting popped? That's fund
Speaker 3: up with ye where they wasn't playing weddy. Let me
Speaker 3: tell you right now that calls him. That caused brother
Speaker 3: some mental health issues.
Speaker 2: You know. So I just thinking about all this, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. My mama will tell me
Speaker 2: to this day. She said, your dad was just young.
Speaker 2: He loved you. He just didn't know. He trying to
Speaker 2: process a situation that he don't know nothing about. Right.
Speaker 4: That's good that moms told you that. You know, my
Speaker 4: mom's never told me.
Speaker 2: Like my mom, she wanted me to have a relationship
Speaker 2: with my day right, And I respect her for that
Speaker 2: because she could have easily been like, no, you ain't
Speaker 2: going to go see him. She never she always wanted
Speaker 2: us to have a relationship.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what. My mother never said nothing bad
Speaker 4: about my dad either. And at one point in time,
Speaker 4: my mother had told me one day, and I think
Speaker 4: I was about twelve thirteen years old, I had just
Speaker 4: start stealing cars for the homies, and she was like,
Speaker 4: my dad came through and I was really eager and
Speaker 4: happy to see him at that particular time because I
Speaker 4: hadn't seen him in a while. And my mother said,
Speaker 4: you really love your dad, don't you you know? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know it's my dad, you know. And she said,
Speaker 4: but you're gonna find out one of these days. She
Speaker 4: that's the only that's the only time that I remember
Speaker 4: my mother kind of putting a hypothetical on my head
Speaker 4: about this motherfucker, you know what I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: But she never said nothing bad about him, never said
Speaker 4: nothing bad about him. It wasn't until I started getting
Speaker 4: older and I started seeing when I had my daughters
Speaker 4: and I have my sons. Hey, man, come on down.
Speaker 4: My daughter's about to graduate from sixth grade. Okay, son,
Speaker 4: I'll be there. This motherfucker don't show up. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Hey, Dad, come on damn mikey my
Speaker 4: young my only boy. You know, he's having a birthday,
Speaker 4: partly having his third fourth birthday party. Come on down,
Speaker 4: Dad would like to see you. Okay, son, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: show up. He never show you know, motherfucker never show up.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Back to the mental health
Speaker 4: part of it. You know what I'm saying. That shit
Speaker 4: can cause motherfucker some mental health issues. Right there? You did?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And when you know, and then
Speaker 4: when he did want to come around, come to find out,
Speaker 4: this motherfucker putting his shit up his nose, he broke.
Speaker 4: And then when he calling, he asked for something. Nigga,
Speaker 4: I ain't seen you in ten years. What the fuck?
Speaker 4: Why are you calling me asking me? You know what
Speaker 4: I mean? You know? And then I started realizing, I'm like, Mike,
Speaker 4: you know what, don't let this motherfucker take you out
Speaker 4: of character. I always like to think about my actions
Speaker 4: before I do shit, So I just stopped fucking with
Speaker 4: my dad altogether. My brothers in aw I have a
Speaker 4: brother named Elly as well. He living in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 4: and my brother Milly, would always say man. I'd ask, man,
Speaker 4: how do you continue to fuck with this nigga? And
Speaker 4: my brother said, man, because I don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: a body, you don't FaZe me. But but but his
Speaker 4: actions fucked with me.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, still, I think I came, you know,
Speaker 3: a little bit similar to your situation where you know,
Speaker 3: you ended up having a cool relationship with your pops
Speaker 3: after the fact, I mean, same situation with me. I mean,
Speaker 3: I guess anybody, though, you know, the presence of your
Speaker 3: dad is supposed to be like just oh man, my dad.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So, but it gets to
Speaker 3: a point to where I was like, like, you like,
Speaker 3: I don't fuck with dude. I don't saw from the
Speaker 3: transition of me starting a gang bang and all of that,
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't fuck with my pops at all.
Speaker 3: My sister she was one of them, like talk to
Speaker 3: him every day. But I don't know. I guess because
Speaker 3: of what I witnessed as a kid, you know, and
Speaker 3: the stuff that happened with moms and you know that,
Speaker 3: like you said, it'd be like some motherfucking PTSD shit,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying to where you be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't even want to go around, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, because you know, they do they thing you
Speaker 3: feel me, they might have them a little drink or
Speaker 3: a little smoke or whatever was. They vices and shit,
Speaker 3: and as a youngster you don't really know how to
Speaker 3: cope with that shit. You get me to see, you know,
Speaker 3: the trauma in the household. So it really kind of
Speaker 3: it could take you all in whatever direction. You know,
Speaker 3: some people can overcome from it and then some niggas.
Speaker 3: It makes that generation in no transition to where now
Speaker 3: you you getting on you know, your broads and you
Speaker 3: getting into it with your baby moms or your woman
Speaker 3: or whatever. So yeah, I took because I was a
Speaker 3: you know, lover of my mom. So my sister was
Speaker 3: more like you know, once she got a little older,
Speaker 3: she was able to be neutral with it. But me,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to fuck with I didn't want to
Speaker 3: fuck with him at all. And so the whole time
Speaker 3: I was you know, from the time of like the twelves,
Speaker 3: and thirteen and fourteen and fifteen, and I'm gang banging
Speaker 3: and all that. Didn't I didn't. I didn't talk to
Speaker 3: my pops at all. My sister would. Yeah, I talked
Speaker 3: to Dad today and blah blah blah. But me and
Speaker 3: then once I started rapping, and I think I got
Speaker 3: to about maybe my fourth album, I started communicating because
Speaker 3: you know, I was going places, and sometimes I would
Speaker 3: be in the same town where, you know, because he
Speaker 3: was living in Oklahoma and then he moved to Louisiana
Speaker 3: and so you know.
Speaker 2: Was he familiar with your REP career?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: When I when I finally went to see him, he
Speaker 3: had newspaper clippings and ads and all kinds of shit,
Speaker 3: you know, Jet magazine shit I have been in. And
Speaker 3: you know, when I did Minace and awards and all that,
Speaker 3: he had paper clippings of all that shit. So so
Speaker 3: he was definitely watching. I'm pretty sure you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I had no regrets, though you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I don't know, man, You know I held
Speaker 3: you know, you hold grudges because, like I said, again,
Speaker 3: that's moms. You get me, and you know your moms
Speaker 3: do so much for you as as as a as
Speaker 3: a kid. They kind of take the motherfucking the punches
Speaker 3: on the chin and fuck it, nigga, knock me down.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get up, but I still gotta go do
Speaker 3: the shit. You feel me, whether whether or not you're
Speaker 3: gonna help or do something or not. You know, they
Speaker 3: kind of take it on the chin. So when you
Speaker 3: a kid, that's like, motherfucking that's all for you. Like
Speaker 3: that's why I said that the situation, like we was
Speaker 3: talking before, like you can't overstep that boundary when it
Speaker 3: comes to your moms. Like niggas will go through whatever,
Speaker 3: You'll go through, whatever level it is. You know, when
Speaker 3: you see somebody offending even just offending your mom.
Speaker 4: That's the reason why the young brother popped this motherfucker.
Speaker 4: I was still in there.
Speaker 3: You'd be ready to take a nigga's head off, like
Speaker 3: I like, if you had that relationship with your mom,
Speaker 3: you know, and a person like me, like I said,
Speaker 3: once mom's and pops split, it was just me and
Speaker 3: moms and so whether we had to go through the struggle,
Speaker 3: the grind of you know, trying to figure out what
Speaker 3: where the bread was coming from or eating and all
Speaker 3: that shit, and you know, even the trials a nigga
Speaker 3: had to go through with turning a young man and
Speaker 3: there is no father around. You give me, so now
Speaker 3: you have to try to learn a little bit on
Speaker 3: your own and watch niggas in the streets. And then
Speaker 3: there's Moms and you know she's always with the positive eye.
Speaker 3: But you know, as a slick little nigga, you think
Speaker 3: you're gonna get away with some shit, so you test
Speaker 3: and test, but Mom is still there. Every time I
Speaker 3: went to fucking jail, she came to bail me out.
Speaker 3: Every time I stole a motherfucking car and it went
Speaker 3: to the impound, she got that motherfucker out, you know.
Speaker 3: So you don't you know the situation of that is
Speaker 3: just like, you know, what the fuck you want me
Speaker 3: to do?
Speaker 1: This nigga socking my mom?
Speaker 3: Of course he was fit to die, of course, and
Speaker 3: not to disrespect you know, the dead and his family,
Speaker 3: because I'm knowing they feeling something right now. But that
Speaker 3: comes to the level of how how far can you
Speaker 3: let a motherfucker push you? You give me like you
Speaker 3: got to be in some coinntrol of your actions. Man,
Speaker 3: Sometimes you get me and I come from that too.
Speaker 3: I come from that. Fuck you, I don't give fucking
Speaker 3: you get me. But still, you know you have to
Speaker 3: come to a level of control because you know, you
Speaker 3: don't know what a motherfucker gonna do. Like you said,
Speaker 3: you gotta have your head on the swivel. His head
Speaker 3: ain't on the swivel because you're in there. First of all,
Speaker 3: because he in there having confrontations with a female, so
Speaker 3: his head ain't on the swift knowing who she with exactly.
Speaker 3: And then like you said, it ain't like she looking
Speaker 3: like the homegirl from the hood where you know it
Speaker 3: might be niggas in the car. She looking like somebody mama.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna escalate if you that type of nigga
Speaker 3: and got that attitude.
Speaker 2: Well you know what real quick. They saying that the
Speaker 2: woman told her son to hit the witness, I guess
Speaker 2: it was a witness in their hood. Then that averts
Speaker 2: her intention.
Speaker 1: To the witness, that it was somebody in there filming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where she instructed her son to shoot them. Wow,
Speaker 2: the dude with the camera, because the court to take
Speaker 2: the gun from the boy, but he pushed her off
Speaker 2: to paarody into the vehicle. Sound like the son had
Speaker 2: more sense than the Mama was like, let's go. You
Speaker 2: ain't got to shoot this man, you know, going back
Speaker 2: to your pops. Eight. The biggest memory I got, man,
Speaker 2: and I think and for a long time I had
Speaker 2: a lot of hatred in my heart towards my pops
Speaker 2: is I remember when I was real little, and I
Speaker 2: remember this vividly. I probably had to be about eight
Speaker 2: nine something like that. It's me waiting at the house
Speaker 2: for him to come, right, I remember, have my little
Speaker 2: bag of clothes ready, man, and I would just have
Speaker 2: my coat on already. This niggaspost come at six o'clock.
Speaker 2: I'm three o'clock. I'm all come on, got my coat on,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to bail, right, And he would never come.
Speaker 2: I would go in the couch. I would go to
Speaker 2: sleep on a couch. Wouldn't want to go to bed
Speaker 2: because my MoMA. No, he might come. I'm gonna miss him.
Speaker 2: That's trauma right there. Just never show up though.
Speaker 4: That's trauma right there. That's trauma right there.
Speaker 2: It's never come. I would wait by the window if
Speaker 2: we stayed, you know, me being the Midwest, they got apartments,
Speaker 2: some of them in the basement, right. I remember I
Speaker 2: was staying up on the back of the couch and
Speaker 2: be by the window, and I would just wait to
Speaker 2: see that van coming.
Speaker 3: Bro Man, my pops would come get me and my sister.
Speaker 3: You know, when he moved and you know, you know
Speaker 3: got you know, was dealing with another lady, and you know,
Speaker 3: he used to come get us and we used to
Speaker 3: spend the week ends and go to church with him
Speaker 3: and all of that. I mean, for the record, my
Speaker 3: pops tried to be you know, I guess the best
Speaker 3: he could. I mean, his faults from you know, the
Speaker 3: abusive shit and who knows what.
Speaker 1: I don't know what my.
Speaker 3: Pops was going through in his head. He had a
Speaker 3: job at General Motors, so he wasn't like just a
Speaker 3: dead beat motherfucker. But you never know, he was in
Speaker 3: the military, you know what I'm saying. He was a
Speaker 3: productive He probably got you know, he probably got on
Speaker 3: that shit. Who knows when you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: He was educated, motherfucker smart, had a great job. He
Speaker 3: had a job at General Motors for probably over thirty years,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But who knows what the
Speaker 3: trauma of that shit is. You know, a lot of
Speaker 3: motherfuckers went through, you know, the physical fighting and abusive
Speaker 3: shit in the household around them seventies you get me.
Speaker 3: For us who are or seventies or sixties kids, a
Speaker 3: lot of that shit went down and it was overlooked,
Speaker 3: you get me. But you know, for the most part,
Speaker 3: my pops tried to you know, it was just it
Speaker 3: was just the incidents. You get me. As a kid,
Speaker 3: you can't, you really can't function with that shit. And
Speaker 3: even when I would go over to that ways the good,
Speaker 3: even when I would, you know, sometimes go over there,
Speaker 3: it was still the shit cracking. You get me to where, Nigga,
Speaker 3: I'm in the motherfucking room listening to yelling and shit
Speaker 3: going down, Like I don't want to come over to
Speaker 3: this motherfucker no more, man, And so you start distancing
Speaker 3: yourself because not that you you know, you trying to
Speaker 3: like now, you know Pops, like I said, every kid
Speaker 3: growing up had that sense. I want to you know,
Speaker 3: my father is supposed to be everything.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: When you look at the motherfucker shit that they portray
Speaker 3: on the TVs and you read in the books, you know,
Speaker 3: the father's supposed to be everything. He's the supporter He's
Speaker 3: the motherfucking provider. You know, He's the motherfucker that's gonna
Speaker 3: come whoop a nigga's ass when they come fuck with you.
Speaker 3: And so I didn't have that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: That's why gang banging started.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I had the homies and shit like that, and then
Speaker 3: you start growing immune to it to where it got
Speaker 3: to the point to I was like, now I don't
Speaker 3: do no summer vacations out there no more. Nah, I
Speaker 3: don't want to pick up the phone and call I'm cool. Nah,
Speaker 3: I'm good because now shit, nigga got the I'm from
Speaker 3: the hood. I don't need shit else, Nigga, I got
Speaker 3: the homies from the hood. I got me a strap
Speaker 3: in a sack and a father. Can't tell me shit
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: Your way, Hey, Mike, I wanted to ask you this,
Speaker 2: what the way the internet he is right now? Like
Speaker 2: I see a lot of people, man, like a lot
Speaker 2: of adult men and women that look like they caught
Speaker 2: up in the lives of all these online different these
Speaker 2: different online personalities and even the people that watch your
Speaker 2: shows sometimes right, it's like almost you got peopless invested
Speaker 2: in this like, this is their reality? Where would that
Speaker 2: stem from? You know, you know, you got to think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 4: Man. Social media is real powerful man, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Just the influences. You got a lot of
Speaker 4: people that watch these shows, watch y'all, you know, watch
Speaker 4: a lot of the platform. Shout out to my homeboy,
Speaker 4: Meley Mail out of Santana Block, you know, the hood
Speaker 4: Postman in his situation. You got a lot of people
Speaker 4: that listen to what we say. They depend on they
Speaker 4: depend on these shows. You understand what I'm saying, because
Speaker 4: what happens is it's not that people are living their
Speaker 4: lives through the shows, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 4: they won't answers to questions that they just can't you
Speaker 4: know that they can't answer, you know, And sometimes these
Speaker 4: shows they provide that. You understand what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 4: for me, I like you know, you know there's there's
Speaker 4: a podcast Tim Wise. You know the white boy. You
Speaker 4: ever heard of him? Look, you got to look him up, man.
Speaker 4: He you know what he does is he talks about
Speaker 4: how white people. What he does is he just roast
Speaker 4: his own people, you know what I'm saying. And he
Speaker 4: and he talks about, you know, how you know, how
Speaker 4: white people has done the indigenous peoples over the years,
Speaker 4: and how they how they've benefited off our labor and
Speaker 4: all these types of things. You know, I like to
Speaker 4: listen to those types of things, those types of podcasts
Speaker 4: and what so forth. I listened to Lewis May, the Minister,
Speaker 4: the Honorable Louis fair Count all the time. And you know,
Speaker 4: some of these podcasts they get they they not only
Speaker 4: do they give vindication to the mind of the people
Speaker 4: that watches them, you understand what I'm saying, it also
Speaker 4: gives validation. That's why a lot of these That's why
Speaker 4: these kids are so fucked up right now, because they
Speaker 4: watched these they watch these podcasts that that that deliver
Speaker 4: all these fucked up messages, you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And then these kids are knitny. They're not getting groomed
Speaker 4: at home. Why because there is no father in the home.
Speaker 4: The mothers and the mothers at work working all damn day.
Speaker 4: When the mother come home, she don't feel like dealing
Speaker 4: with the kid or talking to the kid. Don't even
Speaker 4: ask the kid how his or her day was doing.
Speaker 4: So the kid, you know what I'm saying they get
Speaker 4: a lot of their lessons from these podcasts, man, And
Speaker 4: unfortunately that's fucked.
Speaker 2: Because I see people, man, you know in the comments section.
Speaker 2: I had a guy one day, Man tell me, he said,
Speaker 2: still SMD, Well, this is a man. I go back
Speaker 2: to his page. Man, this dude is probably about like
Speaker 2: twenty one two years old.
Speaker 4: SMD.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, suck my you know.
Speaker 1: What the hell is Ryan?
Speaker 3: They still hold up before you. I let you speak
Speaker 3: on that. But that's why they always fucking with you still.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The cold thing about it is, Man, again, that has
Speaker 2: to be a mental problem. It has to be a
Speaker 2: mental problem.
Speaker 3: That just that just ain't a nigga bad you talking
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: He didn't like, he didn't like.
Speaker 1: Like like they ain't been through it.
Speaker 4: Just don't like, I ain't never seen that one.
Speaker 3: That's what that's that's that's that's another supporter from the
Speaker 3: other side. That's why he said, let.
Speaker 2: Me get this off. Even if he was a supporter
Speaker 2: from the other side. You inserting yourself into something that
Speaker 2: you don't know nothing about, you know nothing about, you
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. You just taking size and
Speaker 2: stuff that you don't know nothing about. Right, And then
Speaker 2: I even saw this, Right, I've seen people come in
Speaker 2: under different things, right, under different names. Right, it be
Speaker 2: the same person, but they got different names. They make
Speaker 2: up all these different profiles. Though, when they send messages
Speaker 2: to theyself. You know what I'm saying, just like this
Speaker 2: crazy they like they come and comment on their own thing, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: on their own posts, and it'd be like, man, these
Speaker 2: people gotta be crazy.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Well, no, that's the Internet game. People know that, you know.
Speaker 3: The more support that they get for bullshit, it's gonna
Speaker 3: make it relevant. So if I got if I go,
Speaker 3: if I send you a text and I say SMD,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'll go, gonna make twenty profiles, fake profiles
Speaker 3: to come in to comment on that SMD shit, and
Speaker 3: all of the comments gonna be like, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 3: so and.
Speaker 1: So yeah man yeah, I man, what is still done?
Speaker 1: He ain't this or that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Man, he can SMB for me too, you get me.
Speaker 3: That makes it. That makes the motherfucking quote relevant.
Speaker 2: And then he come back and say this, give homeboy
Speaker 2: his money, Ryan, this.
Speaker 3: Is still kill it big. Look, this is what I
Speaker 3: say about people. Then people ain't motherfucking mental. They just
Speaker 3: motherfucking They just haters and and and the thing is
Speaker 3: what I say about shit like that. We got this
Speaker 3: thing where it's supposed to be freedom of speech, and
Speaker 3: this is it. This is what I used to go
Speaker 3: through that ship. And still do you put up a
Speaker 3: quote a nigga gonna come in and go he gonna
Speaker 3: say something slick or something whatever, whatever it could be
Speaker 3: from an anonymous page whatever, which means that somebody who
Speaker 3: really know you, they just don't want to expose themselves
Speaker 3: for saying what they really want to say, but they
Speaker 3: not they cowards or whatever, or they want to still
Speaker 3: be able to smile in your face and laugh behind
Speaker 3: your back. Okay, so there's something you can do about it.
Speaker 3: I used to get pissed off and want to go
Speaker 3: back word for word with a nigga and motherfucker like
Speaker 3: for what, Wow, you want to say that. All you
Speaker 3: can do from there is block a motherfucker or leave
Speaker 3: it up, because like I said, that's your up here,
Speaker 3: that's what you feel about it. But you're still here
Speaker 3: and you're making comments. That's the world of the Internet today, man,
Speaker 3: and people with you know what I'm saying with just
Speaker 3: a nigga don't like you, and you got that, you
Speaker 3: got you got that right, whatever you get me.
Speaker 4: You got some people that all sit up there, sit
Speaker 4: up here and fuck with you all day.
Speaker 3: If you allow them to, man, a nigga will go it.
Speaker 3: Make it to me, this is what this what a
Speaker 3: person told me. You ain't doing nothing but giving them
Speaker 3: what they want if you take because you know what
Speaker 3: they gonna do. They gonna take all your responses and
Speaker 3: go post that shit and go Look. I meant look,
Speaker 3: I'm into it with Stele. Look he's responding. He's responding
Speaker 3: to me. Oh, I got him so mad and in
Speaker 3: the back of the nigga mine. He really don't got
Speaker 3: no beef with you. It's just making him look good
Speaker 3: because half the niggas that start talking shit the minute
Speaker 3: I come on and go fuck you or he oh
Speaker 3: I didn't Oh it ain't really like oh man, I'm
Speaker 3: a true fan. Really, I'm a fan with They do
Speaker 3: that because they really don't think they gonna get a.
Speaker 1: Respond out of you.
Speaker 3: That's why they just want to be the negative motherfucker
Speaker 3: out of all the people who going yeah, still keeping
Speaker 3: cracking and keep want they want. I'm gonna come in
Speaker 3: nig nigga SMD and pay a nigga his money and
Speaker 3: then it really you'll never see the nigga or the
Speaker 3: nigga could be a motherfucker that you see every and
Speaker 3: you'll never know it. That's just the world that we
Speaker 3: live in, especially with the Internet.
Speaker 4: Especially the motherfuckers that ain't got no profile picks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I ain't got nothing to do but fuck
Speaker 3: with this nigga all day. I ain't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with fuck with them all day. And it was
Speaker 3: so bad about it. You bite half of the time.
Speaker 3: You're gonna bite on it because it's just because first
Speaker 3: of all, you don't like the shit on your page,
Speaker 3: so you're gonna look at it and be like, who
Speaker 3: is this motherfucker and a minute you go, ah, man,
Speaker 3: shut the fuck up or mind your business. He go,
Speaker 3: I got him now, I'm finna go back and forth
Speaker 3: with him all day and bade him in me.
Speaker 2: It's all I'm doing. His block and delete me.
Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't think you.
Speaker 3: D You can say niggas is mental, but that ain't
Speaker 3: really no mentally ill. We got people out here with
Speaker 3: real mental issues.
Speaker 2: No, that's what I was gonna ask you, Mike, A
Speaker 2: lot of these characters that pop up online and they
Speaker 2: usually wind up on a White Boys platforms, right, right,
Speaker 2: do you think some of these brothers got not putting
Speaker 2: no names out there, nobody in particular, but do you
Speaker 2: think some of these dudes got mental problems?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Well, you know they you know, I mean we First
Speaker 4: of all, I would have to make an assessment. But
Speaker 4: any motherfucker had to sit on the internet all damn
Speaker 4: day and go back and forth with somebody. There's some
Speaker 4: type of mental name somebody.
Speaker 2: You think krip Met got something wrong with him?
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I mean, I mean, bless the brother's heart,
Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying, but yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 4: only it's only obvious that brother got some type of
Speaker 4: cognitive issues going on.
Speaker 2: Now we talk about cognitive issues because I see, now
Speaker 2: you gotta do this. His father look just like him.
Speaker 2: But he a blood, right, Oh, I saw that. That
Speaker 2: is daddy for your vice lord.
Speaker 4: Well, he he posed as a blood at one time,
Speaker 4: and then he did say something about the vice Lord.
Speaker 4: Brian's right. I saw that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: But I don't know, I don't know if that dude
Speaker 4: is his daddy or not, But that dude is crazy,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Especially if he's not his
Speaker 4: biological father. If he's getting on there just for attention,
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta take in the consideration. This motherfucker
Speaker 4: might be mental, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he just make it up, said I'm his daddy.
Speaker 2: But height told me your story about Kedy. He knew
Speaker 2: they thought he was easy. He thought he was easy.
Speaker 3: Rest in drugs, don't that ain't just a motherfucker who
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, that's a that's that's what
Speaker 3: the one of the homies who you know continuously was
Speaker 3: doing them drugs. And like I try to tell niggas,
Speaker 3: you know, was he out of contence? Yeah, he was
Speaker 3: from the neighborhood, you get me. He got a bad
Speaker 3: batch of a dose of some some water water and
Speaker 3: if it firs, it fucked your brain up. It's in
Speaker 3: bombing fluid. It fucks your brain up. So of course,
Speaker 3: a motherfucker if if if he was a fan of
Speaker 3: fucking Batman, he probably would have been walking around in
Speaker 3: the Halloween costume going Nigga, I'm going to motherfucking Wayne
Speaker 3: Manor and I'm waiting on Alfred to come pick me
Speaker 3: up right now, you get me. That's real, that's real
Speaker 3: mental issues. Or just like, I'm watching the program on
Speaker 3: the sister who was I don't know how long ago.
Speaker 3: This was the sister who was at the restaurant and
Speaker 3: the lost heel sheriffs picked her up and then let
Speaker 3: her out at like motherfucking twelve one o'clock in the
Speaker 3: morning by herself. Right, it was a story like and
Speaker 3: they had the program on TV and I'm watching and
Speaker 3: they say, baby was in there talking like you know,
Speaker 3: she was from Mars and she knew how to read
Speaker 3: numbers and all that. That's somebody mental, you get me,
Speaker 3: that's somebody who has an issue.
Speaker 1: They said.
Speaker 3: She she showed she walked into the restaurant and just
Speaker 3: just say, we in there having a motherfucking corporate dinner.
Speaker 3: She come to our table and just sit down and
Speaker 3: she kicking it and just start talking to people. Nobody
Speaker 3: knew her. She was talking strange and all that. That's
Speaker 3: mental shits, mental hit me, delusions. Were talking about audience.
Speaker 3: Some of these motherfuckers do this ship for for likes
Speaker 3: and for content and to be because right about now,
Speaker 3: being stupid is popular.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: If I can get on the motherfucking internet that crazy
Speaker 3: and say I'm missing, I'm not and next thing you know,
Speaker 3: you look up, I have a motherfucking million hits.
Speaker 2: Man. That's why I really think some of these people,
Speaker 2: like you know, that's how they got these what they
Speaker 2: call them, these beckies, bed the Karens. It's just coming
Speaker 2: up on people like me and Ramley and doing shit.
Speaker 4: Though I think the people that wanted to those are
Speaker 4: moren some some of those people have mental.
Speaker 3: Is now some of their motherfuckers bes I say, people
Speaker 3: that want to have content is like people you just
Speaker 3: talking about, like you know, niggas just just that be
Speaker 3: just yelling and screaming for no reason and just all
Speaker 3: kind of outlied this bullshit like shit, like you be
Speaker 3: really like, why does motherfucker do this? A lot of
Speaker 3: them motherfuckers are phonies and do shit because they looking
Speaker 3: for fame. And like I said, now, being stupid and
Speaker 3: doing crazy shit it gets you fame.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: You ain't gotta go, you know, write no good song
Speaker 3: or motherfucking get in there and work hard and practice
Speaker 3: and do no shit. A nigga could get on the
Speaker 3: internet and do some dumb shit and next thing you know,
Speaker 3: he got a million followers and motherfuckers sending him Lamborghinis
Speaker 3: and he pulling up with chains and you be like
Speaker 3: this nigga dumb as a motherfucker. But Timmy, that's the
Speaker 3: world today, man, Like you'll think a nigga like this
Speaker 3: nigga's really crazy, but no he's not.
Speaker 4: You know what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing. I'm gonna act like a
Speaker 3: motherfucking fool. You get me, I'm a run around and
Speaker 3: a motherfucking diaper with some motherfucking bullshit on my head,
Speaker 3: and watch tomorrow, I have a million fucking followers. Did
Speaker 3: you see this stupid nigga wearing a diaper and he
Speaker 3: was going around doing crazy shit and just fucking with people,
Speaker 3: Like you'll think a motherfucker crazy. That's how man got
Speaker 3: his fulling. Man, come on, you know what do you
Speaker 3: do crazy shit? You do crazy shit for content. Motherfucker
Speaker 3: you were And like, like, I come from the saying
Speaker 3: there's no such thing as bad publicity. All publicity is
Speaker 3: good publicity. That's where I come from. That's what motherfuckers
Speaker 3: used to tell me all publicity is good publicity, whether
Speaker 3: it's good or bad. Your fucking name and your image
Speaker 3: is out there and millions or people of talking, whether
Speaker 3: they going that nigga stupid or whether they going damn,
Speaker 3: that's cracking.
Speaker 2: Like you know, you being a dude from the neighborhood. Man,
Speaker 2: what makes you want to get into mental health?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: How did you get into that? Well?
Speaker 4: I went to school, like I said, Man, you know,
Speaker 4: one of my attributes, man, was I was a reader.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: You know, I'd read when when other motherfuckers is watching TV,
Speaker 4: I'm reading a book, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 4: you know, you know I used to try to understand
Speaker 4: why I would have certain feelings about certain things, and
Speaker 4: I would go do my research on it, and it
Speaker 4: always led me to something something mental. So then when
Speaker 4: I when I when I went to school and I
Speaker 4: was trying to figure out what I wanted to be
Speaker 4: in life, you know what I mean, I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, what, what the fuck am I really gonna do?
Speaker 4: Be cause I'm you know, I'm a kind of a
Speaker 4: boogie nigga. Man, I'm not I'm not gonna go work
Speaker 4: for the city and dig no fucking homes and phil
Speaker 4: potholes and none of that type of shit. You know
Speaker 4: what I mean. You know, I really was thinking about
Speaker 4: what am I gonna do? And then when I got
Speaker 4: into mentoring kids, and when I got into coaching, I
Speaker 4: got a job at the City of San Diego Parking Wreck.
Speaker 4: I became a center director. And when I started coaching
Speaker 4: these kids and dealing and dealing with a lot of
Speaker 4: the homeboys in the neighborhood game banging motherfucker's losing their lives.
Speaker 4: People will say, Man, go over there and talk to
Speaker 4: ball game. People would direct people to come and just
Speaker 4: holler at me. We got homies right now. You know,
Speaker 4: I say, the homeboys slick out of Campanilla Park. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He'll literally say, Man, let me
Speaker 4: call a ball game because he always gives me good advice,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. A lot of the homeboys,
Speaker 4: you know, they call me like Mike, what you think
Speaker 4: about this? So you know, when I got my degree,
Speaker 4: I got my degree in business administration. So when I
Speaker 4: was going into grad school, that's when I start thinking,
Speaker 4: you know, people like Mike, you'll be a good social
Speaker 4: worker because you're already doing that, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 4: and I didn't realize that I was doing it when
Speaker 4: I would go to the high schools and talk to
Speaker 4: the kids about game Bang, when I would coach the
Speaker 4: kids and and all these types of things. When I
Speaker 4: was sitting on the city down in San Diego City Hall,
Speaker 4: I go to the council and I would talk to
Speaker 4: the council about you know, hey, we need some funding
Speaker 4: over here. This is why I didn't realize that I
Speaker 4: was already doing the social work. So when I went
Speaker 4: to school to get my master's degree, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's that's when I decided I wanted to
Speaker 4: be a social worker still and end up working out
Speaker 4: for me. You know, social workers make a lot of money.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of burning out because you because you're
Speaker 4: dealing with people with mental health issues, You're dealing with
Speaker 4: people who are homeless. You're trying to help people get
Speaker 4: their sci payments, whatever it is that they need. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, it's just all social services man
Speaker 4: and me myself, I enjoy it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I actually picked a career that I enjoy and not
Speaker 4: only did I make money. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, I see it back now, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? You know, just off my last year's salary alone, man,
Speaker 4: I spent sixty racks on a food trailer that I
Speaker 4: just bought because I don't need nothing. I don't buy nothing,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I own a couple of
Speaker 4: homes down there. You know, I don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: about no cars. I am working on a ride. I
Speaker 4: got a six six rag coming out. Putting a little
Speaker 4: bit of money into my yeah, putting a little bit
Speaker 4: of money into in a couple of things. But I
Speaker 4: don't spend no money still, and I like helping people,
Speaker 4: my brother, so that was my motivation right there. Man.
Speaker 4: You know, because one thing we did, man at least
Speaker 4: you said you and Brian from the Midwest. But one
Speaker 4: thing I think we did. But we wasted a lot
Speaker 4: of time game bank, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 4: and my brother and.
Speaker 3: I wasted all of my mid teens and all of
Speaker 3: my twenties.
Speaker 4: We wasted a lot of time game bank.
Speaker 3: And I was fucking I was fucking selling records and
Speaker 3: still didn't give a fuck. You didn't give a full
Speaker 3: all I wanted to do was go to the hood
Speaker 3: and just chill. I didn't know nothing else. Even when
Speaker 3: I started embedded. Yeah, even when I was making money
Speaker 3: and all on B E T and magazines and all
Speaker 3: that shit, Nigga, I was still going to the block.
Speaker 4: The things it's it's embedded in you. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you guys noticed, but I'm a musician. I play
Speaker 4: keys and drums, and Lou Silas Junior, who was the
Speaker 4: director of A and R for MCA Records back in
Speaker 4: the days, had hired me to play drums for when
Speaker 4: New Audition then first came out and all these types
Speaker 4: of things. So I was running back and forth from
Speaker 4: San Diego up to l A. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: not trying to be an artist. I was a musician.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to play, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I would, you know, I would go back and
Speaker 4: forth up here to come to l A and do
Speaker 4: a couple of gigs here, go out to the parties,
Speaker 4: have a good time.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 4: You and I have met a couple of times before, Homie,
Speaker 4: for sure, you know what I'm saying, back back and
Speaker 4: back in the days, and you didn't know who. I
Speaker 4: was a little skinny kid, had a flat top, little
Speaker 4: shag all that or top of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But I was, you know, I was on some different
Speaker 4: ship back then, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was a you know, I was. I was into
Speaker 4: some shit, you know what I'm saying. And and and
Speaker 4: the point that I was trying to make is that
Speaker 4: I end up. I started when I got shot. Me
Speaker 4: and me and the brother had a we had a
Speaker 4: car to car shootout. He hit me, I hit him,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Ended up getting a zip.
Speaker 4: I got stabbed a couple of times. I did my
Speaker 4: fair share of it. And uh, you know, when me
Speaker 4: and my brother Mellie got exonerated for a popping, these
Speaker 4: motherfuckers came to the house. They knew where moms lived
Speaker 4: because we stayed right on the front street thirty fifth Street,
Speaker 4: shot up the house. One time. We was waiting in
Speaker 4: the garage for the ass to come back showing up.
Speaker 4: The dumb asses came back, we got to pop and
Speaker 4: shoot out. My older brother had to slam my mama
Speaker 4: to the ground because her dumb asses come running out
Speaker 4: the house like what are you doing. Get on the ground.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Blah blah blah. Makeing a
Speaker 4: long story short. It was after I got stabbed and
Speaker 4: after I beat my case. I beat my case, and
Speaker 4: that was one that at that one particular time they
Speaker 4: were trying to give me twenty two years. I was
Speaker 4: scared as hell. You know what I'm saying. If anybody
Speaker 4: would sit here and tell you that they they that
Speaker 4: they ain't never been scared of anything, I was scared
Speaker 4: at the time. He told you, I try to run
Speaker 4: right right, Well.
Speaker 3: Your fucking mask, Yeah, this stick, I could get it it. Boy,
Speaker 3: get a fucking traffic violation, guy, go do fifteen days?
Speaker 1: Still like shit? I finished called by what run Sell.
Speaker 2: Was facing some time like that twenty year You gotta
Speaker 2: remember I'm fifty something. Dogs, that's the rest of your wife, crumb.
Speaker 4: Well, what't nothing but see at the time, I was
Speaker 4: only twenty two years old. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you know, but me, me and my brother, Me
Speaker 4: and my brother Millie. We end up beating the case.
Speaker 4: And when I got around twenty six years old, the
Speaker 4: red the red light literally went on like stop, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because the ship, the ship that
Speaker 4: I was into and the things that I was doing. Man,
Speaker 4: you know, my homeboy gains and earned rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I know you guys heard of that name. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The shit that we was doing back
Speaker 4: in the hoods, back in the days. Man, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Some people lost their lives and some
Speaker 4: of us got lucky. I got lucky, man. So I
Speaker 4: decided that I was gonna turn my shit around, and a.
Speaker 1: Lot of us got lucky.
Speaker 4: Man, A lot of us got lucky, home boy, you know,
Speaker 4: because like I said, I'm part of the zipper.
Speaker 3: And then I'm saying, like, that's gotta be some form
Speaker 3: of of mental stress or health when you look up,
Speaker 3: like you said, some of us get to a point
Speaker 3: where we go, I can't do this shit no more.
Speaker 3: But then it's some of the homies who are still
Speaker 3: like they still there and they still in it, and
Speaker 3: that's all they know. And you know, you see a
Speaker 3: lot of dudes, you know, when you see niggas forty
Speaker 3: and over representing neighborhood to the fullest, it's a problem.
Speaker 3: You see a lot of dudes questioning like why y'all
Speaker 3: doing that?
Speaker 1: Why y'all.
Speaker 3: Come on, you're forty now, you're fifty now. Some of
Speaker 3: some some has the explanation of it's it's generational.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 3: It's a brotherhood. You know, you don't leave this behind.
Speaker 3: Our only way out is if you die or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: They they so you know what I'm saying, because you
Speaker 3: see a lot of especially over here, you see a
Speaker 3: lot of niggas around our generation and our age that
Speaker 3: still repped the block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know.
Speaker 4: I know a motherfucker as sixty three years old, man,
Speaker 4: and you know still still still like, you know, pushing
Speaker 4: the line. I'm like, man, what type of motherfucker is you?
Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of them.
Speaker 3: So that's why I said that gotta be some kind
Speaker 3: of mental health meant, you know, some kind of stress
Speaker 3: for you to feel like at fifty or forty plus
Speaker 3: sixty plus that you still have to, you know, represent
Speaker 3: the block in that form.
Speaker 4: It's a much bullshit. Eight How old are you still?
Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 2: I'm fifty three? How old are you?
Speaker 4: Eight? I'm fifty two and I'm fifty six, so I'm
Speaker 4: the senior in the house. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I would never tell at this point, man, Well it was.
Speaker 4: It started when I was thirty years old. I never
Speaker 4: did try to groom some young brother into coming to
Speaker 4: this bullshit. You know what I'm saying, always, man, man, man,
Speaker 4: go live your life and go go see some shit,
Speaker 4: Go do something, go to school, get educated. You understand
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Live a productive life. This shit ain't productive.
Speaker 4: I used to have homeboys, used to be made man,
Speaker 4: Mike Man, Man, Homy. You don't even come kicking with
Speaker 4: us under the gazebo no more? Nigga? Fuck you?
Speaker 3: Why is it that a nigga? Why is it that
Speaker 3: they feel because you get that, you'll get like you
Speaker 3: don't represent no more. You don't you know, you don't
Speaker 3: do this no more. You ain't you know, you ain't
Speaker 3: claiming the hood no more? You know, like, why do
Speaker 3: you feel some dudes even address that?
Speaker 4: Man? You know, I still can't get it to you know,
Speaker 4: I normally can rational rationale some things, but this one
Speaker 4: I just can't rationale.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: Well, one thing for some of the brothers. So some
Speaker 4: of the brothers, they ain't never had ship, they ain't
Speaker 4: never went nowhere. You dig what I'm saying, The hood
Speaker 4: is the only thing that they've ever had. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. What I'm saying, so they have they have
Speaker 4: this sense that they have a sense of loyalty.
Speaker 1: That is just.
Speaker 4: I always tell brothers, if you, if you, if you
Speaker 4: can have this much loyalty towards your own personal endeavors,
Speaker 4: the same loyalty that you have to this to this
Speaker 4: hood or to a block where you don't even own
Speaker 4: a house on the mother the fucker you dig. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You would be successful, my brother.
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. Your priorities is fucked up.
Speaker 4: But then again, I've also called motherfuckers out. Hey, if
Speaker 4: you got a problem with me, motherfucker, I'll meet you
Speaker 4: at Ocean View Park. I meet you at South Chrest
Speaker 4: Park down in the basement, and then we can talk
Speaker 4: about it, because I'm gonna tell you right now, and
Speaker 4: where the camera and all you motherfuckers out there in
Speaker 4: the six one nine and elsewhere, No, good, God, damn
Speaker 4: well that I'll pull up and if you want a
Speaker 4: chunk on, I'm fifty six years old and I'll still
Speaker 4: slay these motherfucking things. Now. Do I choose to do that?
Speaker 2: Fuck? No?
Speaker 4: You know why Because half of you motherfuckers ain't even
Speaker 4: worth or they ain't even worth the waste of my
Speaker 4: motherfucking time. And some of you clowns in the six
Speaker 4: one nine know exactly who in the fuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna even get these motherfuckers that I'm not.
Speaker 4: I don't nowadays. I used to dignify that shit with responses,
Speaker 4: motherfucking me, me, I'll pull up at the park. What's
Speaker 4: now I don't even have to do that no more.
Speaker 4: You dig what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: nahe fuck that. And I'm and and another thing I
Speaker 4: got to say about about the city of San Diego. Man,
Speaker 4: the city of San Diego. Man, Man, don't get the
Speaker 4: six one nine fucked up because we started that ship
Speaker 4: at the same time Compton and La and everybody else
Speaker 4: was getting busy. You did, know what I'm saying. And mother,
Speaker 4: and and every set in the six one nine, every
Speaker 4: I don't get fucking if it's a crip set, if
Speaker 4: it was a blood set, you got some riders out
Speaker 4: of each motherfucking set in San Diego. There ain't no
Speaker 4: punks in the sixth one nine. So I'm gonna give
Speaker 4: a shout out to my city, especially after this bootsy bullshit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So whatever happened with Boosy
Speaker 4: and San Diego, you dig what I'm saying, it was
Speaker 4: just a flu It was. It was, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a fluke of the circumstances. And that brother
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to deal with what he has to
Speaker 4: deal with. But don't get it fucked up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: You come to San Diego, man, and you know somebody
Speaker 4: you check in. Not only are you gonna get protected.
Speaker 4: You dig what I'm saying, motherfuckers and San Diego's gonna
Speaker 4: be able to provide security for you. You dig what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Move around the town and have a good time. Man,
Speaker 4: you brought up Boozy. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 4: think boys looking at it, I think he might. I
Speaker 4: think I think I think I think with this gun case,
Speaker 4: man Boosy might like, like they said, did they give
Speaker 4: him ten, he might do what eight and a half
Speaker 4: of his hen he looking at maybe eight? He in trouble.
Speaker 4: He gonna he gonna go sit down.
Speaker 3: You know, But especially if you got priors for firearms
Speaker 3: and you on parole or parbation for firearms and you
Speaker 3: get caught. I mean, there's no way you can deny
Speaker 3: it because it's all on social media at the pistol,
Speaker 3: and then they got the whatever the recording to where
Speaker 3: he was telling the bodyguards that they should have took
Speaker 3: the rap for the pistols or whatever.
Speaker 4: So his problem is he talked too fucking much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, again, we live in these times where
Speaker 3: a nigga will test you and then you know, if
Speaker 3: you claiming to be that type of motherfucker, you might
Speaker 3: go to some sections where a nigga feel like, hey, nigga,
Speaker 3: you like like just like we was talking about last
Speaker 3: you know with with the female, there's just motherfuckers who's
Speaker 3: just gonna try to test you and see if you
Speaker 3: that type of motherfuker. So you know, he he he
Speaker 3: said it was for show. It was for the video.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was the it was
Speaker 3: the Securities pistol, and he was.
Speaker 4: Gets you a prop gun some of you got if
Speaker 4: he had if he had a couple of prop guns.
Speaker 3: In My thing is this when you get to a
Speaker 3: certain level of of of MC artistry or whatever.
Speaker 1: You don't even carry around no pistol.
Speaker 4: No you don't.
Speaker 3: You give me gotta be somebody else. I'm calmed in
Speaker 3: I'm neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. If I'm in
Speaker 3: a situation like that, the security gonna have a pistol
Speaker 3: because I ain't finna try to go to jail for shooting. Now,
Speaker 3: not saying that the nigga ain't been in situations, but nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like if I've been there, done that,
Speaker 3: you get me. I don't feel like I gotta I'm
Speaker 3: not even finna be grabbing a.
Speaker 1: Pistol for a video said.
Speaker 3: This is the thing, man, shit, I did when I
Speaker 3: was fucking twenty getting on a fucking video at fucking
Speaker 3: fifty years You get me.
Speaker 4: Hit about forty two, forty three years old. But this
Speaker 4: is a thing. Another thing. Man, If if if you
Speaker 4: got to pull up to a video shoot and have
Speaker 4: a pistol, you might reconn, You might.
Speaker 1: Want to re might not want to be at the video. Shit,
Speaker 1: you might.
Speaker 4: Want to reconsider where you're doing a video. Shit.
Speaker 3: You Yeah, that's that's how I say. At a certain age,
Speaker 3: not that you are punk, but you gotta avoid bullshit.
Speaker 1: That shit.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm going to a section where we might
Speaker 3: have to add the pistols over here, Okay, we might
Speaker 3: want to move the location.
Speaker 1: Then you get me.
Speaker 3: I don't need to go prove into a nigga that
Speaker 3: I'm a hard nigga from Louisiana or content by jumping
Speaker 3: out and all the fans and the niggas on the
Speaker 3: block see me with the pistol, Like, yeah, nigga, You're like.
Speaker 2: What the fuck real?
Speaker 3: Why if that's the case, nigga, we need to move
Speaker 3: our location. And if I'm in a spot where I'm accepted,
Speaker 3: I damn show I ain't finna have no fucking I
Speaker 3: don't need't.
Speaker 4: Need one, you understand. But at the same time, but you,
Speaker 4: but a motherfucker has to be privy enough. You understand
Speaker 4: what I'm saying to put security on him or herself.
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. You have to make decisions
Speaker 4: to where you don't have to have the pistol. As
Speaker 4: eight was just saying, you know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 4: if I'm coming up here to do the Gangs of Chronicles,
Speaker 4: was invited to thank you my brothers again, if I
Speaker 4: felt that I needed a pistol to come here, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Coming exactly exactly like where y'all at and who y'all
Speaker 3: fuck with? And then I feel like, hm, I might
Speaker 3: need to take me a heater up there, when I
Speaker 3: that already has letting me know maybe I shouldn't be
Speaker 3: going to.
Speaker 4: Do it, and and and not to cut you off
Speaker 4: eight because I don't like to do that. I apologize
Speaker 4: you good so. But before I came up here, I
Speaker 4: called my homeboy, Mitchie Slick. I said, Slick was having
Speaker 4: with this gangster chronicle they asking me to come up.
Speaker 4: Slick said, Oh that's MCA He said, you cool, hummy,
Speaker 4: that's my peoples. Yeah, just like that, you did what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I asked questions, you understand, And then you
Speaker 4: called Melly when I was up in Lancaster to go
Speaker 4: see him for an interview before I went, I mean
Speaker 4: before I checked back down in LA to go to
Speaker 4: see Drake get his award. And you know I always
Speaker 4: ask questions. You know what I'm saying, right, and Melly
Speaker 4: and Melly said the same Melly, Melly the Hood Postman
Speaker 4: said the same thing. He said, man still in eight
Speaker 4: he said, Mike, you good. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: you want me to pull up with you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: People, you know, you know what I'm saying. You gotta
Speaker 4: check your surround You gotta check your surroundings.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And and uh, you know, so you know, just just
Speaker 4: getting I checked three references, and all three of the
Speaker 4: and all three of their references had nothing but good
Speaker 4: things to say about y'all. So I'm here, you know,
Speaker 4: and I done being invited to do a couple of
Speaker 4: other ones. In the first thing, man, what's going on
Speaker 4: with thieves over there? And I've had some people say, well,
Speaker 4: kind of be careful. This mother, forg got one foot in,
Speaker 4: one foot out. You don't know who gonna pull up exactly.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, all those types of things,
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So you know, I ask questions. Man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna put security on myself.
Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying first and foremost. And then
Speaker 4: when I come, I come in peace because you know,
Speaker 4: we all brothers, man, and meet myself, you know, And
Speaker 4: I'm extremely sincere when I say this. Man, you know,
Speaker 4: somewhere down in line we gotta figure out how we're
Speaker 4: gonna stop heart hurting and harming one another man in
Speaker 4: our communities.
Speaker 2: Man, God damn, I think it's possible to ever get
Speaker 2: to that point, though, well, you know, I'll probably be
Speaker 2: dead and go.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, you know, I was just
Speaker 4: about to say, before you ask me that question, that
Speaker 4: I just hope that I can see that in my lifetime. Man,
Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying. You know, because when I come,
Speaker 4: I come with the utmost respect. Man. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I don't care who you is. I don't
Speaker 4: give a damn what set you from. I don't, I don't,
Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't care how big, how
Speaker 4: small man. One thing I do. I have a genuine
Speaker 4: concern for my people. Man, you did what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And and and and when I pull up, I normally
Speaker 4: pull up solo bolo.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 4: I come by myself, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 4: I and and and and I'm a very spiritual brother,
Speaker 4: you know what I So I look up to the
Speaker 4: sky and ask Joh, Joh, this is in your hands
Speaker 4: now I'm here.
Speaker 2: I ask your philosophy, man, if it's somewhere we're in
Speaker 2: my spirit, I feel like I gotta take pistols and
Speaker 2: do all this and that I'm just not gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the point.
Speaker 3: Like I said, you you ain't niggas, ain't no punks
Speaker 3: or cowwarts or nothing like that. But being a grown man,
Speaker 3: you have to learn how to choose your options better
Speaker 3: to avoid drama. And that's your choice you give me,
Speaker 3: regardless of what a motherfucker might say or what their opinion.
Speaker 3: I'd rather be here than be locked up or laid up,
Speaker 3: you feel me, And that's it. That's just the that's
Speaker 3: just the end, motherfucking theory. You're gonna be locked up
Speaker 3: or laid up straight up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So if I can avoid that, I damn should want
Speaker 3: to avoid getting locked up.
Speaker 1: You give me, especially.
Speaker 3: At this point, man, come on, I ain't got time
Speaker 3: to give me, and I'm damn showing in the position
Speaker 3: to how I need to be laid up behind somebody
Speaker 3: and some bullshit where nigga done laid me up? Because nigga,
Speaker 3: why the fuck you even here? You know something, I
Speaker 3: show shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be here. What's here
Speaker 3: for me?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 4: Nothing?
Speaker 3: Your woman at the crib, your motherfucking kids is straight,
Speaker 3: Your business is somewhere else, and your money is coming in.
Speaker 3: What the fuck am I doing here to prove to what?
Speaker 3: I'm still hard like?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Please, I'm beyond proving you get.
Speaker 2: I just got that. The girl, the woman Carlicia Hood,
Speaker 2: the woman whose son shot the guy. They're folling a
Speaker 2: lawsuit against the City of Chicago, the resting officers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they dropped the case. So now she wants
Speaker 3: to file a civil lawsuit. But that that that ain't
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll stick because you're gonna say what
Speaker 3: you were wrongfully accused or wrongfully arrested, your son did
Speaker 3: pop a motherfucker and whatever now we can, we'll claim
Speaker 3: it was self defense and we'll give you that and
Speaker 3: we'll let you out. But you ain't gonna turn around
Speaker 3: to try to get no bread out of us. Come on,
Speaker 3: we just let you off on a fucking murdered your hearts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what she should and.
Speaker 3: Didn't even then give your son like inviolnce terry mannslaughter
Speaker 3: and no shit, he did kill a motherfucker, like okay,
Speaker 3: he was beating your mama. But still how many times
Speaker 3: a a motherfucker? Go yeah, okay, but still, well, this
Speaker 3: is what she said. I've experienced pain in many ways
Speaker 3: that I would never have thought.
Speaker 1: She said, that's.
Speaker 3: The mental health. That's my mental health is fucked with
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: Hold on, She said, what happened to me was totally unnecessary.
Speaker 2: Never in a million years would I have imagined being
Speaker 2: brutally attacked, beaten and arrested.
Speaker 4: But this is what I'll say to missus Hood. Keep going, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: go ahead? Is that it it?
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Hood's attorney, Aary Williams, told the Chicago Sometimes and Monday,
Speaker 2: miss Hood is ill and has always been a victim.
Speaker 2: Brandon Brown, another lawyer for hood, Is, also hinted that
Speaker 2: additional lawsuits will be forthcoming.
Speaker 1: She's always what.
Speaker 2: Happened to his Hood, likely there would be additional bossuits forthcoming.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But the thing is, wonder what the lawyer. I
Speaker 4: wonder what the lawyer. I wonder what lawyer is going
Speaker 4: to take that case?
Speaker 1: Program?
Speaker 3: And what do you mean by that? She's always been
Speaker 3: so she done?
Speaker 1: Got her?
Speaker 4: Asked what before?
Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, ship, I've always been a
Speaker 3: victim too shit. I done been pulled over and fucked
Speaker 3: with by the police and fucking thrown and holding taints
Speaker 3: and all kind of.
Speaker 2: She's paying for the for the son's college. She said
Speaker 2: that that fourteen year old boy that back to him
Speaker 2: routing neck groom ass man, punching his mother in the
Speaker 2: face as if she were a man, is a true hero.
Speaker 2: If he wants to go to college, I'd love to help.
Speaker 2: It's what any son should have done for their mother,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: I agree with I said that, like if if if
Speaker 3: I'm watching somebody socking on my mama and there's a
Speaker 3: burner handy.
Speaker 4: He's he's in trouble, he's in trouble.
Speaker 3: He might he might not make it, And like he said,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna chase him from here to the next block
Speaker 3: over rocket and I'm gonna empty the whole motherfucker. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's why I said, that's the love for mom. So
Speaker 3: I'm like, so that's what I said. They let you out.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna charge you with murder. They gonna say
Speaker 3: it was self defense. Okay, But this is another one
Speaker 3: of my my, my, my saying exactly how is this
Speaker 3: city responsible for some brandom dudes, just socking you.
Speaker 1: You know what are you saying?
Speaker 4: Still?
Speaker 2: Okay? Now tell me it's this mental health. She just stupid.
Speaker 2: Ohio mom charged with murder after infant dies while she
Speaker 2: left on eighth DA vacation without her. Yeah, she crazy
Speaker 2: as hell, say. Chrystal larry Are thirty one admitted to
Speaker 2: leaving the little girl Xaling at the Cleveland home alone
Speaker 2: for eight days, all alone and unattended, and after David
Speaker 2: a team by u K YC showed she had traveled
Speaker 2: without the child to vacation in Puerto Rico and Detroit.
Speaker 2: The child was not living without any food of water.
Speaker 2: The child.
Speaker 4: They found a child in the garage. The child and
Speaker 4: went out to the to the to the garage and
Speaker 4: I'm assuming getting and getting in the car thinking is mama,
Speaker 4: her mama was gonna come home and take her somewhere.
Speaker 4: She They found the poor child dead in the front
Speaker 4: seat of the truck in the garage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what they said. Reportedly found Jalen unconscious
Speaker 2: and extremely dehydrated. The infant's body was allegedly located in
Speaker 2: the state of disarray. The girls play peeing hit soil.
Speaker 2: Blankets in the bottom line are saturated with here in
Speaker 2: the feces. She was pronounced dead at the scene.
Speaker 3: Now you know what broke So they saying, the mama
Speaker 3: went to Puerto Rico and just left her there, left
Speaker 3: her there.
Speaker 4: That's that's mentor.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's steam my little baby though, that's the mentor.
Speaker 3: That's the mentor because you like it is some true,
Speaker 3: like I said, unfortunately, it's it's a serious problem. And
Speaker 3: mental health is real. And I know a lot of
Speaker 3: regular average motherfuckers. You know, the way we look at
Speaker 3: you know, people with problems, we'll call them crazy and
Speaker 3: and and hey, nigga, go you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: We don't really look at that too often about mental
Speaker 3: health and what real problems they are. But that should
Speaker 3: have been no way she should have been having a baby. Baby,
Speaker 3: You get me. If her if her motherfucking if her
Speaker 3: mentality is I could go to Puerto Rico and leave
Speaker 3: a sixteen month old in the play pin, you shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been having no kid, you get me.
Speaker 4: In the family, and the family should have made that
Speaker 4: assessment as well, if she had family around.
Speaker 2: The thing that make you question, like the neighbors respond
Speaker 2: to tragic news, I hope she pays what she did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that makes you question what kind of father
Speaker 3: who laid up and had sex with her to have
Speaker 3: a kid, Because you gotta know there's some issues there.
Speaker 3: You get me, You're not a normal motherfucking and you
Speaker 3: just wake up and decide, Oh, I'm gonna leave my
Speaker 3: baby in the play pin and I'm finna go to
Speaker 3: Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4: Well, the first the first news.
Speaker 3: Not not to the grocery stores. Don't shit like that,
Speaker 3: but thistle to play this what the neighbors is saying.
Speaker 3: They don't know why she didn't ask them for help before,
Speaker 3: because she said this. One neighbor said that the young
Speaker 3: mother would sometimes would go days and weeks without contacting them,
Speaker 3: while soon lem watch the infant. So the neighbors said they.
Speaker 2: Already maybe all the time, and the mom be gone
Speaker 2: weeks and days of the time without saying.
Speaker 3: Them drugs, drugs and mental health and mental health man
Speaker 3: real talking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so she had a pattern. So she had a pattern.
Speaker 4: I wonder, how come the neighbors and go over there
Speaker 4: and try to do a welfare check and then and then,
Speaker 4: but they probably don't know the babies.
Speaker 3: That's why I say, shit, is left behind and shit
Speaker 3: is is is put on desk skin and you don't
Speaker 3: get because they already knew she was fucked up because,
Speaker 3: like she said, she'd be leaving for days at a time.
Speaker 3: So right then and there, somebody should have been contacted.
Speaker 2: This woman was a teacher too, dog substitute elementary teacher.
Speaker 3: She's mental. I don't give a fuck what you say.
Speaker 3: You know, normal motherfucker leaving a kid. Now, yeah, now
Speaker 3: I know a motherfucker go kick it and shit, But
Speaker 3: at liasa motherfucker be back after at least a day.
Speaker 1: You get me.
Speaker 3: A motherfucker leaving a and done it several times. That
Speaker 3: should have been like I said, why haven't the Why
Speaker 3: wasn't the neighbors like, hey, this lady then left her
Speaker 3: baby here and she been gone for three days. Somebody
Speaker 3: should have been contacted. But you just let her walk
Speaker 3: back up, hand her the baby and go, hey, she
Speaker 3: does it all the time. If evidently you get me
Speaker 3: because they said it, she's left the baby, he's here
Speaker 3: and been gone for several days.
Speaker 4: So, like I said, there's a pattern.
Speaker 3: No social services was called, no nothing, no police, like
Speaker 3: y'all let her do this at least two or three times,
Speaker 3: you get me, so.
Speaker 4: No account of building.
Speaker 3: And then some motherfuckers don't want to get involved with shit,
Speaker 3: but you're watching their kids, so like, oh, I don't
Speaker 3: want to tell on her, or I don't want to
Speaker 3: call and get her in trouble and shit like that.
Speaker 3: You feel me, I don't want to get her in trouble.
Speaker 3: So but now you telling what she used to do?
Speaker 3: It's too late. Now you get me? Now you think
Speaker 3: what we don't even want to hear from you? Now
Speaker 3: what the fuck? Now you want to say, Well, she
Speaker 3: used to leave the baby here for days at a
Speaker 3: time and be gone. Okay, So why you're telling, motherfucker
Speaker 3: two months ago that shit, or three months ago or
Speaker 3: a year ago or whatever said the baby was only
Speaker 3: sixteen months and you already got incidents where she's in
Speaker 3: left the child there and been gone for several days.
Speaker 3: That's a red fucking flag.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, social service, because I'm gonna tell you leave
Speaker 2: your baby with somebody. For you leave your baby with
Speaker 2: somebody for a day, your checking in something wrong. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell.
Speaker 3: You, man, you leave a baby in the fucking car.
Speaker 3: You see how motherfuckers be all surrounding the car. You
Speaker 3: mean to tell me you leave a baby for days
Speaker 3: at the neighbor And nobody's like, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 3: this bitch, I got a job to go through. I'm
Speaker 3: still sitting here watching this baby.
Speaker 2: One year olds in the car. Dog, aren't you gonna
Speaker 2: do something to see some kids? You don't know? I've
Speaker 2: seen a couple of times. Dog, I saw like some kids.
Speaker 2: They was probably like one probably like thirteen fourteen months
Speaker 2: and the other one was a baby, and could tell
Speaker 2: the little brother was in there trying to watch them.
Speaker 2: They got the windows rolled up. Dog. I went and
Speaker 2: got the mall security and had them open up the
Speaker 2: motherfucking door. And I had to open up the door.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't just leave them there. Open the
Speaker 2: door up and get leave the door open for the kids. Right.
Speaker 2: Wife went and got them some waters out the mall, lemonades,
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know what I mean. And in
Speaker 2: there waiting for the mom to come back. She come
Speaker 2: out there, young girl, dog with a young but a
Speaker 2: guy right and I said, oh, well, what is y'all
Speaker 2: messing with my kids? For mind? You're on fucking business.
Speaker 2: I said, these kids could have died out here. It's
Speaker 2: about ninety degrees I here, so you know, if it's
Speaker 2: eight degrees outside in the cars and cars a hundred
Speaker 2: They black white Mexican shit young know, and I don't
Speaker 2: know if they got them to do that. I just think,
Speaker 2: but this with these young people. Dog, See when you
Speaker 2: have a kid, man with people don't understand the moment
Speaker 2: you have a child, the shit you got going on
Speaker 2: over with, Yeah, real talk, it's over with all your
Speaker 2: little dreams and aspirations. It's about what they got going
Speaker 2: on now. So see a lot of these young kids
Speaker 2: go out and have got babies and stuff. Dog, or
Speaker 2: don't realize the responsibility that it is. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, responsibility. Fuck you going out and want to
Speaker 2: have fun and kick it.
Speaker 4: It's not about you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: She up there meeting the nigga at the mall, probably
Speaker 2: don't want to the movies and everything else. Lift them
Speaker 2: on the car with a water bottle. Take care of
Speaker 2: your little brother while I was gone, And then you
Speaker 2: gotta wonder where they daddy is that she probably ain't
Speaker 2: evenletting the daddy see the babies. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: fun up ship. But man, I appreciate you coming here
Speaker 2: to sit down with his man.
Speaker 4: Yah yay again man, yeah, man, I'm always recepted to
Speaker 4: coming and sitting down with you good brothers man. And
Speaker 4: you know, I really enjoyed myself. You know, the ride
Speaker 4: was cool. Man bumping some so os band that's right,
Speaker 4: call the men coming up, air conditioner on. And I
Speaker 4: just you know, just in my thoughts, you know, so
Speaker 4: you know, I you know, I want to give a
Speaker 4: shout out again. I want to give a shout out
Speaker 4: to my homeboy Mellie Mail, the hood Postman. I want
Speaker 4: to give a shout out to Mitchill Slick. I want
Speaker 4: to give a shout out to my younger brother Mail
Speaker 4: up out of Atlanta. I want to get a shout
Speaker 4: out to ce Low. I want to give a shout
Speaker 4: out to the Goodie Mob. I want to give a
Speaker 4: shout out to King Floatie up out of Atlanta. I
Speaker 4: want to give a shout out to the young brother
Speaker 4: that just passed away in Houston. What's his name? Oh yo,
Speaker 4: big Poky, big Ques right, And I want to give
Speaker 4: a shout out to, you know, blessings and peace to
Speaker 4: that brother and his family. Man. And I want to
Speaker 4: give a shout out to all the black communities across
Speaker 4: this great United States. Man, I love you brothers and sisters, man,
Speaker 4: and I just hope that one of these days we
Speaker 4: as a community can get it together man and come together. Man,
Speaker 4: and and and literally. You know I'm gonna say this, man,
Speaker 4: practice what these white folks practice.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying, so you know again still
Speaker 4: eight Brian. You know, thank you for having me, man,
Speaker 4: and you know I'm willing to come on any time.
Speaker 2: Man. You brothers asked me for sure. Man, where can
Speaker 2: people get at you on Instagram? Because I know you
Speaker 2: glass catch DM you if y'all going through something may
Speaker 2: hit the brother up.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: What's your Instagram?
Speaker 4: My Instagram is Michael with a Y M y c
Speaker 4: h A E L the with a A the th
Speaker 4: h A ball game. Yeah, man, it hit me up.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: If your brothers and sisters need need to talk, man,
Speaker 4: just to give me a hollow man, I am gonna start.
Speaker 4: Everybody merely been on my hammet about starting my podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm calling it the Platinum Carpet. You did what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna I'm gonna end up starting that and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start going live a little bit more on Instagram.
Speaker 4: I'm really not into social media all like that, but
Speaker 4: a lot of people has been talking to me saying, Mike,
Speaker 4: you know, you can benefit a lot of people if you,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of make yourself a little bit more available.
Speaker 4: So you know, I am gonna start doing that, you know.
Speaker 4: And you know, and and and all your brothers and
Speaker 4: sisters out there. And what just when I say brothers
Speaker 4: and sisters, I mean whites say, had a girl take
Speaker 4: off of the body. You know, you guys take care
Speaker 4: of yourselves, take care of your families, man, and be well,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And and uh and and
Speaker 4: I wish you all well man. And I really appreciate
Speaker 4: this platform for sure.
Speaker 1: Good looking family, they appreciate it.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we do. We out of here, Jill.
Speaker 3: If my notes like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the
Speaker 3: truth and nothing.
Speaker 4: But your.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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