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This is not your average show. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't Big change 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: and big spilt from the streets. 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Subscribed to Against the Chronicles, Leave of live, start rating 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: and comment. She liked to welcome everyone to another episode 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast and I am Norm Steele. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: Jill No, we had a pretty good weekend This weekend. Man, 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: we celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of Minister Society. Man had 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: tiring the homeboy. The homies showed up, Man, what's happening? 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: Partner Samuel Monroe, And it was pretty good. 27 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: That was pretty cool, little turn little hang out. You know, 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: nothing nothing big, nothing major, just you know, really just 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: a gang of homies just kicking it well. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: Yang homies, Yeah, gang homies, homegirls. It was cool man. 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: You know what though, Bro, that's the second time we 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: don't put something together in a few days, man, and 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: we get a decent little turnout. Man, I'm thinking. Man, 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: I was talking to Homie Man from eighty five South Man. 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: He was telling me he think we need to go 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: on to go on the road, man, Man, real stuff. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: We'll see how it work, you know what I'm saying. 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: If we get support, you know what I'm saying, that's all, 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: and do it on your own. Man. Oh for shure, 40 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: for sure, man, for sure. You know it's been a 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: the thing everybody been talking about the internet. Man. Is 42 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: the woman in Chicago, man who had got you know 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: who was assaulted in that wrisk rant but the dude 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: punched on her, Carlicia Hood, her and her son they 45 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 2: got off. Man. 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: I've been following the story A little bit started, A 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: little video whatever do anybody like what was they even 48 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: arguing about. 49 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I know he was punching on 50 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: her like she was a punching bag. 51 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Well I saw the video. 52 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: They was arguing about something and he was like, man, 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: just get your food and go. Just get your food 54 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: and go. Lady, just get your food and go. So 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: is that, like? I don't know what that was, because 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 3: you know, you gotta be able to let me tell 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: you something. I say this shit all the time, and 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: this as far as miss far as nils. You feel me, 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: you can't hang with no female when it comes to 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: that mouth man. A female won't let them bombs, drop 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 3: you down, kick you under the table, roll you in 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: some flour, nigga, and put you into hot grease. You 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: feel me. You cannot hang with no If you ain't 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: got no control you you gonna get pissed the hell 65 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: off because a woman can dig deep. When it comes 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: to talking shit, we can't. I don't give a fuck 67 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: who you are. You be the best shit talker of 68 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: the world, nigga. I get paid to talk shit, you 69 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: feel me. But when it comes to arguing, when the female, 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: you cannot motherfucking go toe to toe So that being said, 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: you got to have a high level of tolerance and control, man, 72 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: because you already know what it is when you touch 73 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: on a woman and you get me, You're going down. 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: You just can't do it. So what I'm saying is 75 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: he I don't know he being provoked. I don't know 76 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: he yelling and screaming, get your food, lady, and. 77 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Get out of here. I'm telling you you better get 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: your food. 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: And you say one and he was like, if you 80 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: say one more thing, I'm finna take off. But why 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because let's face it, even 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: if even if the situation, let's say the situation didn't 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: result in him getting popped, right, you beating on a 84 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: woman on camera, right, You're not finna get away with 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: that situation. You get me, and then when you get 86 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: arrested and you get thrown in jail, motherfucker's in jail 87 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: probably like, oh damn, you beat on the nigga's mama. 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: They asking for paper? 89 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: Are we finna get your You know what I'm saying. 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: So I wonder what, like you said, still, I don't know, 91 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: Maybe it's another story to it, because why did they 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: just start? What are they just you know how motherfuckers 93 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 3: get into it all the time. You know what I'm saying. 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: You customers in line, and you see it. You see 95 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: it all the time, see it all the time. And 96 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 3: they got motherfucking little show right now where you see 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: motherfuckers and walmarts and stores and restaurants, gas stations and 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: they customers and they getting into it with each other. 99 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: They got Curvillians video of this man, and they say 100 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the civilians. Video outside of the restaurant shows the team 101 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: into the restaurant. I guess she had been texting her 102 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: son while they were in there arguing, and cell phone 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: video from inside shows Brown punching Hood at least three 104 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: times in the head and face. Prosecute to see it 105 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: that when the team pulled out a gun from its 106 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: hoodie and shot Brown the back. Brown fled the restaurant, 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: but the team followed them outside the five more shots 108 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: at the hood told them to shoot and kill him. 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: He was shut twice in the back and later died 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 2: miss injuries. See that's that's where it gets kind of 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: a slippery slope. That that's where it's kind of a 112 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: slippery slope because the threat is at that time no 113 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: more threat. This dude, don't ran off the restaurant, but ship, 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: that's the same situation. Like my nigga who who? 115 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Who? 116 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: The female sent the niggas over to his crib and 117 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: after he ran in the house, they ran away, right, 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: they ran away, jumped in their car, he came out dumping. So, 119 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: like I said, at what level do you consider like, okay, 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: them them them, them dudes is gone, so fucking I'm 121 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: gonna let off in the heat of in the heat 122 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 3: of the motherfucking moment, and that's your mama. I'm about 123 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: to chase this motherfucker from here to the fucking next 124 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: corners dumping, you get me, especially if the nigga socking 125 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 3: on my mama like a dude. Man, sure, man, I'm 126 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: about to chase this nigga down. 127 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: Man. 128 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 4: When you see that, alrighttionale goes out. 129 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: There, Yeah, it goes out And Okay, she texting em 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: like get the gun or something. Yeah, cause the nigga 131 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: in here hollering and fucking screaming at me telling me 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: you say one more motherfucking thing, I'm gonna sock the 133 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: shit out of you. Okay, let me just texting, motherfucker 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: right quick? Hey, uh, get the pistol out the glove 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: compartment and come on in here. And then I walk 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: through the door and I see my mom on the 137 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: ground and the nigga standing. 138 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: Over Popop Pop Pop. 139 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: I'm letting, I'm letting all they all going, they all going. 140 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: And it's so you know the thing is, man, it's 141 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: very dangerous, man. That's why I tell people, man, it's 142 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: best to play the high power cover. Man. I don't 143 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: do no kind of extra talking man when I'm in 144 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: places where I don't know people, man, because it can 145 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: go down that quick. You could lose your life or 146 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: wound up taking somebody's life that quick. 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: You don't know who carry pistols, That's the whole thing. 148 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: That's ship man. You emails carry pistols too. So and 149 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: like I said, you don't know what the story is. 150 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: But if it's just some random ass motherfuckers is in 151 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: the rec the little shit, you know what I'm saying. 152 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: And I don't know a wrong look or whatever, I mean, 153 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: what caused them to get into it, you know what 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Especially when you look at it as a 155 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: female and a dude. It wasn't like it was two 156 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: dudes in there. Arguing her two females. So is there 157 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: another story behind you know, him being that motherfucking furious 158 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: to where he ready to take off on her because 159 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: of words she talking and she didn't seem like, you know, 160 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: she didn't seem sister irate. 161 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 162 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: She wasn't doing She wasn't doing the neck you know, 163 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: and the pointing and like you know, nigga, you this, 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. It seemed pretty car He was pretty 165 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: motherfucking adamant. 166 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: From what I understand. The brother got man. He was 167 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: telling her to her up and get her riot order, 168 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: and she was. She just basically told him like do it, 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: I'm not finishing order and hold on, you know what 170 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean. So he got pissed off and got to talking. 171 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: Ship that due piss you off sometimes though when you're hongry, man, 172 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: it's somebody. Because I'm gonna tell you women got that good. 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: Because I'm gonna tell you this, bro, my girl on 174 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: been to Windy's a million times or make Donalds. But 175 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: she get up there in front of that thing and 176 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: will do this. But like, man, you don't know if. 177 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: You want to Hamburger Maria slap the back of your 178 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: deck when you walk at the door tonight talking about 179 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 3: what you're talking about before you with these trips, what 180 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: they do. 181 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: They say they don't want nothing, But then be over 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: that reaching for your French for us and all that. 183 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: Ship that Nigga said Maria going there and she'll be like. 184 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: Just looking at that. You know, we got to introduce 185 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: our guests today, man. We got to introduce our guests 186 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: because a lot of the stems back to mental health, man, 187 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: to mental health, and I think in the black community, man, 188 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: we definitely definitely you know, if you look at the 189 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: stuff that's just online, man, in the common section, you 190 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: will see a lot of people down there need help, man. 191 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: You know. Yeah. And and first of all, my name 192 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: is the ball Game Thanker from San Diego, California. I 193 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 4: really appreciate a sure still for having me on the show. Man. 194 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 4: It's a blessing to be here, you know what I'm saying. 195 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: And to all the gangs, the chronicle goons out there, 196 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 4: and much respect to you guys as well. My professional background, 197 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 4: you know, I went to school, went to Ohio State 198 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: for a little bit, got out Ohio State. I ended 199 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: up going to Liberty University in Virginia, I got my degree. 200 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: Then I ended up getting my master's degree from Liberty 201 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: University as well in communication and human services. And currently 202 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 4: right now, I'm a licensed clinical social worker and mental health. 203 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 4: Mental health is always been, as always been at the 204 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 4: forefront of the black communities. The problem with the black 205 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: community is that we don't think that we that were crazy. 206 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: They don't think they don't think that they don't think 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: that they need help, you know. You and I was 208 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: talking earlier today about you know, especially black men. You 209 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, if you tell a brother, hey man, 210 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: once you go talk to somebody, you once you go 211 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: seek some therapy, you know what I'm saying, get some 212 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 4: cognitive behavioral therapy or something to go to some group sessions, 213 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 4: you know, first thing or brother. You know. And I've 214 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: had some of the hommies tell me, you know, ball 215 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: fuck that you know, I ain't crazy, you know what 216 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't need that, you know what I'm saying. 217 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: But they not realizing that they're dealing with all sorts 218 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 4: of traumas. You know what I'm saying. You got a 219 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: lot of black men, they deal with trauma in their 220 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: lives just from being a black man. You know, in society, 221 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: you know, we don't realize that, you know, shit, when 222 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: the police do you guys get a little anxiety when 223 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: the police get behind y'all. I always say, yeah, you 224 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 225 00:11:54,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: I would say, you know, in my early days of 226 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: of stomping the neighborhood, you know, or you know, typically 227 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: hell yeah, it would be you get them butterflies in 228 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: that nervousness when you see them boys get behind you, 229 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: and especially when they ain't even ran the lights yet, 230 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: they just following you for a minute. You start anticipating 231 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: to pull over. You feel me. 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: But see what that's trauma right there. You did what 233 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. We go outside the path. 234 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: You know. 235 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: One of the things that I tell my son all 236 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: the time is that, you know, make sure you keep 237 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 4: your head on the swivel. And I teach him how 238 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: to deal with the police if they do fuck with him. 239 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: You know, he's a productive young brother. He ain't never 240 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: been in no trouble or nothing. You know, me, myself 241 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: and all his uncles. You know what I'm saying. We 242 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: was gang bangers, not gang members. Gang bangers. There's a difference. 243 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I'm part of the Zipper club, 244 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and kind of you know, 245 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: dish it out myself. A lot of people don't realize 246 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: that all that shit that we used to do back 247 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: in the days is affecting us mentally today, you know 248 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And we refuse to seek help for 249 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: our traumas that we've been dealing with, deaths, fucked up relationships. 250 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 4: I can go on. You know, racism, systemic racism. You 251 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. These are traumas that Black men 252 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: and women deal with. Black women are dealing with trauma 253 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: right now. They don't even realize it. You know, they 254 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 4: talking this shit right now. That's why I used to 255 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: love the brother Kevin Samuel's rest in peace. You know that. 256 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: You know a lot of these independent black women right 257 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: now Black well, let me say this, Black women demographically. 258 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: You know, these sisters out here doing their thing. So 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: we got to tip our hats off to them. They 260 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: out here getting educated, getting their master's degrees, They out 261 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: here getting this money, They doing what they do. You 262 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying. They talk that shit. They don't 263 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 4: need a man, But what happens is they not realizing 264 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: that they're dealing with the traumas of fucked up relationships 265 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: with us? 266 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: And oftentimes you know, I notice in the black community, 267 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: black women that's taught by their mothers, Oh you don't 268 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: need a man. I know you know me and are producer. 269 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: We was talking earlier. Were both from Cleveland, and I 270 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: would have generation it was generations of people. Man. I 271 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: would see generations of people man where the grandma stayed 272 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: in the house, didn't have no man. Then she have 273 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: a daughter, the daughter grew up, have kids, they don't 274 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: have no man in there. They all live together, but 275 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: they all got a whole church full of kids. Right, 276 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 2: there's a bunch of kids in their man and they 277 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: all kind of talk that they don't need a man 278 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: in their life. 279 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think this is the thing still, it's you know, 280 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: the thing is you do have those particular situations where 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: some sisters grew up in households where like as you're 282 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 4: saying that they seen that their grandmother didn't have a man, 283 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 4: probably died alone. But you still have a bunch of 284 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: brothers and sisters who actually grew up in two parent 285 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: household two grandmother and grandfather households like I did you 286 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,239 Speaker 4: understand what I'm saying? So I understand what a traditional 287 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 4: healthy relation ship looks like. 288 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: I grew up in I grew up in a single 289 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: family house. I mean, my parents were together for a 290 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: time before they got divorced. You know what I'm saying. 291 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: But I don't know how it was for you growing up. 292 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, what you saw in the household? 293 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: Or I grew up in the two parent household, and 294 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: how was it for you? I had a stepfather, see 295 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: my stepdad. I got my stepdad's last name, okay, because 296 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: I went to school one day and I kept wondering 297 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: while my last name was one thing and my brothers 298 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: and I asked my mama one day, I said, Hey, 299 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: how come they last name is this? How come we 300 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: don't all have the same last name? 301 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: How old were you when you asked her? That? 302 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: Man? I was about eight years old. And then with 303 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: my stepdaddy did he heard that? And my mama just 304 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: told me this man that my stepdad he winning the 305 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: newspaper and win his little cigar box where he kept 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: his money at And when it got an attorney went 307 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: and ran to ad and Ohio where my real dad 308 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: was at. He went to Agron and ran add in 309 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Summer County so he could see and contested if he 310 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: wanted to. Then nobody ever contested. So he took me 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: to place and all I remember is putting my hands up, 312 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: making this oath my last My last name has been 313 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: Steel from then on. 314 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: But so was that because. 315 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: Moms and original Pops was never and it was just 316 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: what it or was it was it abuse? 317 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: Was it? 318 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 3: Moms was like, I got to get the hell away 319 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 3: from this, dude. 320 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you it wasn't you know me. And 321 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: just for the record, me and my biological father have 322 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: a great relationship. You now, he a whole different man. 323 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: You know, he was a young dude when all this 324 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: was happening. So we ben forgave him for all that, right, 325 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: But at the time it was some abuse. 326 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 327 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: You know, my pops liked to put this, you know 328 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, that's what they did. 329 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of a lot, but a lot 330 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: of us. 331 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I'm saying, there's a lot 332 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: of uh us that came from that. 333 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: You get me. 334 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: You know, my father, you know, went to the military, 335 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: was in the Navy, you know what I'm saying. You know, 336 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: worked at General Motors and all of that, but sometimes 337 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: you know, it'd be situations to where you know, it 338 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: just don't work. So Mom's left, you know what I'm saying, 339 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: Like you said, it might have been physical and abusive. 340 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: And even though Mom's left and it was me and 341 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: my sister and my brother, and you know, you never 342 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: saw any significant like I didn't get no stepdaddy, you 343 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: get me. Uh, you know it was I was on 344 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 3: the block, man, So I don't know if I saw, 345 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: you know, or took what I saw as a kid 346 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: in the household with my parents, and and that reflected 347 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 3: on me because. 348 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: I didn't. 349 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 3: I didn't take that route you know some dudes took 350 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 3: when it came to females and my my household, it 351 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 3: was my mama. 352 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: My sister was older. 353 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: The attitude wasn't fucking nigga in the household because we 354 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: came from a different generation parents. 355 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 4: She didn't want to convey that myss moms. 356 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: You know, like my parents, My moms came from Mississippi. 357 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 3: So you gotta understand growing up in that time, you know, 358 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: in the in the forties and fifties and shit, definitely. 359 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: It was different. 360 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, you know, the dude left the household 361 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: or whatever, and it became this, I don't need a 362 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: motherfucking nigga or fucking nigga WHOOPI woo. It didn't have 363 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 3: that that. It didn't have that attitude. So I didn't 364 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: see that, you know, growing up where even though it 365 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 3: didn't work out, it was like, oh no, my sister 366 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: was taught, you know, fucking. 367 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: Nigga out there, you don't need no nigga. 368 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: It looked like my house either. 369 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: My sister, you know, she's been married to her husband 370 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: for decades. 371 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: But see, some of these relationships teaches us. You understand, 372 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying how to how to actually go into a 373 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 4: relationship and learn how to deal with not only the 374 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 4: good but the adversities of the relationships. A lot of 375 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: people are staying together longer. I'm glad that eight said 376 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: that because I grew up in a household like you 377 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: still were. My younger brother's dad was a stepdad, but 378 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 4: I was never really receptive to this motherfucker, you know 379 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 4: what I mean. And because I had two older brothers 380 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: who kind of who I looked up to as a 381 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 4: dad because our father wasn't worth the fuck did what 382 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying, So my dad taught me what not to be, 383 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 4: and that's the. 384 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Same thing to even do. My dad is probably the 385 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: greatest grand in the world now, right, And. 386 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Why but why did we have that though? 387 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 3: Why do you think that generation and era of men 388 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: and fathers were like you said, it wasn't fucking shit. 389 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: Like, We're gonna tell you what I learned, what I 390 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: got from it, and this is how I got the right, right, yeah, 391 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 2: And this is how I got to get to being 392 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: cool with my dad, right, What I found out that 393 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: my dad. You gotta understand my grandmother, Well, my first 394 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 2: of all, well, my grandfather came from Memphis, Tennessee. He 395 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: had a whole nother family down there, and he came 396 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: up north, met my grandmother and I think had fourteen kids. 397 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: They fourteen kids from my dad and them. So it 398 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 2: was a time to where Grandpa would just disappear sometimes 399 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking about six months a year, So my grandmother 400 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: trying to take care of eighteen kids, right, and they 401 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: all like a year apart, and in some cases nine 402 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: ten months. You know what I'm saying, It's crazy, right. 403 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: So what I found out about my dad is that 404 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: they a lot of time and you know, they would 405 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: go to the boys home, the foster system. And what 406 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: I found out is that my dad's older one of 407 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: the older brothers, my uncle Bookie, had went and got 408 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: all of them because they was all separated. So he 409 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 2: broke out of his spot the foster home he was in. 410 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 2: He left and went and got all his brothers and 411 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: sisters and took them out the acting because you know, 412 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: he had started running the streets. My uncles was hardcore pimps. 413 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: You know, during that time I had uncles. I ain't 414 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: gonna name all their names, but you know they was pimping, right, 415 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: So once they started getting their money up, they went 416 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: and got all their brothers and sisters and went back. 417 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: So I would have to say that my father was 418 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: only doing He was better than his father now, but 419 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: they didn't know no better because with example that they 420 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: draw from. 421 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, well, your uncle man, he had to know something, man, 422 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 4: because you don't get too many people that go back 423 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: and get all their siblings to keep everybody together. 424 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: And that's what it is. And to this day they 425 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: all like you, but not say nothing about his brother's 426 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 2: and sisters. Jay would get into a fight with you. 427 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 2: And and the thing I learned is I knew what 428 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: I didn't want as far as me being a man. 429 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: I always said, I'm not gonna I tried my best 430 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: not to have no just a bunch of kids running around, right. 431 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: And I knew that when I did have kids, I 432 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: always gonna be in their lives right right. And I 433 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: knew that once I had my woman, we was gonna 434 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 2: stay together through thick and thing, no matter what happened. 435 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: But but see, but but like I said, and I'm 436 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 4: an interject back off, what they was saying is that 437 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: you you you you saw some things, and you seen 438 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 4: some things and you and you and subconsciously you said, 439 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 4: you know what, that's what I'm not going to be. 440 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 4: Because one thing that my father did teach me, he 441 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 4: taught me my my my biological dad actually made me 442 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: into the man that I am today. You did what 443 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying, right, because I didn't want to be like 444 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: this smoke exactly. You know what I'm saying. He wasn't ship, 445 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I told myself that 446 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: I wasn't that I wasn't gonna be like him. And 447 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: I'm kind of like you. You know what I'm saying, 448 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: All three of my kids just by the same chick. 449 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wasn't just out there 450 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 4: slinging Weenie and and and and you know, having these 451 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: kids by all these different personalities. You did you know 452 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I was responsible, you know, had a 453 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: I mean, did did my thing, did my you know, 454 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 4: jumping through windows and sliding up in some brawls and 455 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: all that. But I always was responsible. My older brother 456 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 4: would always tell me, might keep a raincoat on your shit. 457 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying, and all those types of things, 458 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So my older brother, Anthony, 459 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: rest in peace. 460 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: Man. 461 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 4: I miss you, my brother. You know that brother taught 462 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: me a hole like he. My older brother Anthony was 463 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: my dad man. And my older brother Levan followed shut 464 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 4: once my l once my brother passed away from cancer. 465 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: My older brother Levan, he followed suit and uh and 466 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: and I had five brothers and six of us, and 467 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: you know, and we kept a tight knitch, such as 468 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: your uncles and his siblings as well. You did what 469 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And my family was a bunch of females. 470 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 4: But all my aunts were married and they all they 471 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: are all my uncles. They they they were married and 472 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: some of them, some of them the ones that are living. 473 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, they're still with their husbands today. 474 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: So I know what it's like to be in a 475 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 4: healthy and long lasting relationship, you know what I mean. 476 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 4: My only problem is that, you know, before I got 477 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: into a relationship with my kids mother. You know what 478 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I you know, me being a sagittariust man. 479 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: I just like women, man. And then you know what 480 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying, it was shit. If it was a shit, 481 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 4: if I could shit, I've had three or four wives 482 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: in the house. 483 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: You know what though, Man. The thing is, I had 484 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: a very strong female presence in my life too. Like 485 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: my grandmama had a pistols. So when my dad did 486 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: come over there because he would be on some stuff 487 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: to where I'm coming. I'm coming to get my son, 488 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: and my grandmother was like the pistol, like, no, niggas, 489 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: you ain't coming up here with that, you know, because 490 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: my dad, let me know what, they wasn't all innocent. 491 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: They shot at me, my grandmother because at the time 492 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if you all remember back in the day. 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: I'm from the Midwest, they used to have what you 494 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: call outhouses. Yeah, yeah, you know the bathroom Mississippi too. 495 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: You know, my grandmother threw the pists pot on my 496 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: dad before he came up there talking, and they timed 497 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: it as soon as he get to the door. They 498 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: just opened up the door and they threw that's fucked up. 499 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: You know. 500 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: They did some crazy stuff to my brother that can 501 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 4: cause hepatitis. 502 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: Man, man, they give a fuck. 503 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 3: They was like, getting your ass up out of here, 504 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: coming around here with that ship. Why why why are 505 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: you running off with pitts with pists all? Did he 506 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: right it off with pints and getting popped? That's fund 507 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: up with ye where they wasn't playing weddy. Let me 508 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: tell you right now that calls him. That caused brother 509 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: some mental health issues. 510 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: You know. So I just thinking about all this, but 511 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this. My mama will tell me 512 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: to this day. She said, your dad was just young. 513 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: He loved you. He just didn't know. He trying to 514 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: process a situation that he don't know nothing about. Right. 515 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: That's good that moms told you that. You know, my 516 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 4: mom's never told me. 517 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Like my mom, she wanted me to have a relationship 518 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: with my day right, And I respect her for that 519 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: because she could have easily been like, no, you ain't 520 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: going to go see him. She never she always wanted 521 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: us to have a relationship. 522 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: Well, you know what. My mother never said nothing bad 523 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: about my dad either. And at one point in time, 524 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 4: my mother had told me one day, and I think 525 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 4: I was about twelve thirteen years old, I had just 526 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: start stealing cars for the homies, and she was like, 527 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: my dad came through and I was really eager and 528 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: happy to see him at that particular time because I 529 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: hadn't seen him in a while. And my mother said, 530 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: you really love your dad, don't you you know? I mean, yeah, 531 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 4: you know it's my dad, you know. And she said, 532 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 4: but you're gonna find out one of these days. She 533 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 4: that's the only that's the only time that I remember 534 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: my mother kind of putting a hypothetical on my head 535 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 4: about this motherfucker, you know what I mean, you know, 536 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 4: But she never said nothing bad about him, never said 537 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: nothing bad about him. It wasn't until I started getting 538 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: older and I started seeing when I had my daughters 539 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: and I have my sons. Hey, man, come on down. 540 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: My daughter's about to graduate from sixth grade. Okay, son, 541 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 4: I'll be there. This motherfucker don't show up. You know 542 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Hey, Dad, come on damn mikey my 543 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: young my only boy. You know, he's having a birthday, 544 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: partly having his third fourth birthday party. Come on down, 545 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 4: Dad would like to see you. Okay, son, I'm gonna 546 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: show up. He never show you know, motherfucker never show up. 547 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Back to the mental health 548 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 4: part of it. You know what I'm saying. That shit 549 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: can cause motherfucker some mental health issues. Right there? You did? 550 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And when you know, and then 551 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: when he did want to come around, come to find out, 552 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: this motherfucker putting his shit up his nose, he broke. 553 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: And then when he calling, he asked for something. Nigga, 554 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: I ain't seen you in ten years. What the fuck? 555 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 4: Why are you calling me asking me? You know what 556 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: I mean? You know? And then I started realizing, I'm like, Mike, 557 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 4: you know what, don't let this motherfucker take you out 558 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 4: of character. I always like to think about my actions 559 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 4: before I do shit, So I just stopped fucking with 560 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: my dad altogether. My brothers in aw I have a 561 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: brother named Elly as well. He living in Atlanta, Georgia, 562 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: and my brother Milly, would always say man. I'd ask, man, 563 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: how do you continue to fuck with this nigga? And 564 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: my brother said, man, because I don't give a fuck 565 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 4: a body, you don't FaZe me. But but but his 566 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 4: actions fucked with me. 567 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: I think, you know, still, I think I came, you know, 568 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 3: a little bit similar to your situation where you know, 569 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: you ended up having a cool relationship with your pops 570 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: after the fact, I mean, same situation with me. I mean, 571 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: I guess anybody, though, you know, the presence of your 572 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: dad is supposed to be like just oh man, my dad. 573 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So, but it gets to 574 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: a point to where I was like, like, you like, 575 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: I don't fuck with dude. I don't saw from the 576 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 3: transition of me starting a gang bang and all of that, 577 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't fuck with my pops at all. 578 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: My sister she was one of them, like talk to 579 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: him every day. But I don't know. I guess because 580 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: of what I witnessed as a kid, you know, and 581 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: the stuff that happened with moms and you know that, 582 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: like you said, it'd be like some motherfucking PTSD shit, 583 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying to where you be like, oh, 584 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: I don't even want to go around, you know what 585 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: I'm saying, because you know, they do they thing you 586 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: feel me, they might have them a little drink or 587 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: a little smoke or whatever was. They vices and shit, 588 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: and as a youngster you don't really know how to 589 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: cope with that shit. You get me to see, you know, 590 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: the trauma in the household. So it really kind of 591 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: it could take you all in whatever direction. You know, 592 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 3: some people can overcome from it and then some niggas. 593 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: It makes that generation in no transition to where now 594 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: you you getting on you know, your broads and you 595 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 3: getting into it with your baby moms or your woman 596 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: or whatever. So yeah, I took because I was a 597 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: you know, lover of my mom. So my sister was 598 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: more like you know, once she got a little older, 599 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: she was able to be neutral with it. But me, 600 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: I didn't want to fuck with I didn't want to 601 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: fuck with him at all. And so the whole time 602 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: I was you know, from the time of like the twelves, 603 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 3: and thirteen and fourteen and fifteen, and I'm gang banging 604 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: and all that. Didn't I didn't. I didn't talk to 605 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 3: my pops at all. My sister would. Yeah, I talked 606 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: to Dad today and blah blah blah. But me and 607 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: then once I started rapping, and I think I got 608 00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: to about maybe my fourth album, I started communicating because 609 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: you know, I was going places, and sometimes I would 610 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: be in the same town where, you know, because he 611 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: was living in Oklahoma and then he moved to Louisiana 612 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: and so you know. 613 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 2: Was he familiar with your REP career? 614 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 615 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: When I when I finally went to see him, he 616 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: had newspaper clippings and ads and all kinds of shit, 617 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: you know, Jet magazine shit I have been in. And 618 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: you know, when I did Minace and awards and all that, 619 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: he had paper clippings of all that shit. So so 620 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 3: he was definitely watching. I'm pretty sure you know what 621 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I had no regrets, though you know what 622 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I don't know, man, You know I held 623 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: you know, you hold grudges because, like I said, again, 624 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 3: that's moms. You get me, and you know your moms 625 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: do so much for you as as as a as 626 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: a kid. They kind of take the motherfucking the punches 627 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: on the chin and fuck it, nigga, knock me down. 628 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get up, but I still gotta go do 629 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: the shit. You feel me, whether whether or not you're 630 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 3: gonna help or do something or not. You know, they 631 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: kind of take it on the chin. So when you 632 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: a kid, that's like, motherfucking that's all for you. Like 633 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 3: that's why I said that the situation, like we was 634 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 3: talking before, like you can't overstep that boundary when it 635 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: comes to your moms. Like niggas will go through whatever, 636 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: You'll go through, whatever level it is. You know, when 637 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: you see somebody offending even just offending your mom. 638 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 4: That's the reason why the young brother popped this motherfucker. 639 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: I was still in there. 640 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 3: You'd be ready to take a nigga's head off, like 641 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 3: I like, if you had that relationship with your mom, 642 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: you know, and a person like me, like I said, 643 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: once mom's and pops split, it was just me and 644 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 3: moms and so whether we had to go through the struggle, 645 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: the grind of you know, trying to figure out what 646 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: where the bread was coming from or eating and all 647 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: that shit, and you know, even the trials a nigga 648 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: had to go through with turning a young man and 649 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: there is no father around. You give me, so now 650 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: you have to try to learn a little bit on 651 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: your own and watch niggas in the streets. And then 652 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: there's Moms and you know she's always with the positive eye. 653 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: But you know, as a slick little nigga, you think 654 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: you're gonna get away with some shit, so you test 655 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: and test, but Mom is still there. Every time I 656 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: went to fucking jail, she came to bail me out. 657 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: Every time I stole a motherfucking car and it went 658 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: to the impound, she got that motherfucker out, you know. 659 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 3: So you don't you know the situation of that is 660 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: just like, you know, what the fuck you want me 661 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: to do? 662 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: This nigga socking my mom? 663 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Of course he was fit to die, of course, and 664 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: not to disrespect you know, the dead and his family, 665 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: because I'm knowing they feeling something right now. But that 666 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: comes to the level of how how far can you 667 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 3: let a motherfucker push you? You give me like you 668 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 3: got to be in some coinntrol of your actions. Man, 669 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 3: Sometimes you get me and I come from that too. 670 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: I come from that. Fuck you, I don't give fucking 671 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: you get me. But still, you know you have to 672 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: come to a level of control because you know, you 673 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: don't know what a motherfucker gonna do. Like you said, 674 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: you gotta have your head on the swivel. His head 675 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: ain't on the swivel because you're in there. First of all, 676 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: because he in there having confrontations with a female, so 677 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 3: his head ain't on the swift knowing who she with exactly. 678 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 3: And then like you said, it ain't like she looking 679 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: like the homegirl from the hood where you know it 680 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 3: might be niggas in the car. She looking like somebody mama. 681 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: So it's gonna escalate if you that type of nigga 682 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 3: and got that attitude. 683 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: Well you know what real quick. They saying that the 684 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: woman told her son to hit the witness, I guess 685 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: it was a witness in their hood. Then that averts 686 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 2: her intention. 687 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: To the witness, that it was somebody in there filming. 688 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, where she instructed her son to shoot them. Wow, 689 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 2: the dude with the camera, because the court to take 690 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: the gun from the boy, but he pushed her off 691 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: to paarody into the vehicle. Sound like the son had 692 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 2: more sense than the Mama was like, let's go. You 693 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: ain't got to shoot this man, you know, going back 694 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: to your pops. Eight. The biggest memory I got, man, 695 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: and I think and for a long time I had 696 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: a lot of hatred in my heart towards my pops 697 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: is I remember when I was real little, and I 698 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 2: remember this vividly. I probably had to be about eight 699 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 2: nine something like that. It's me waiting at the house 700 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 2: for him to come, right, I remember, have my little 701 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: bag of clothes ready, man, and I would just have 702 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: my coat on already. This niggaspost come at six o'clock. 703 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: I'm three o'clock. I'm all come on, got my coat on, 704 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: I'm ready to bail, right, And he would never come. 705 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: I would go in the couch. I would go to 706 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: sleep on a couch. Wouldn't want to go to bed 707 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: because my MoMA. No, he might come. I'm gonna miss him. 708 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: That's trauma right there. Just never show up though. 709 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: That's trauma right there. That's trauma right there. 710 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: It's never come. I would wait by the window if 711 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 2: we stayed, you know, me being the Midwest, they got apartments, 712 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: some of them in the basement, right. I remember I 713 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 2: was staying up on the back of the couch and 714 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 2: be by the window, and I would just wait to 715 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 2: see that van coming. 716 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: Bro Man, my pops would come get me and my sister. 717 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: You know, when he moved and you know, you know 718 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: got you know, was dealing with another lady, and you know, 719 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 3: he used to come get us and we used to 720 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 3: spend the week ends and go to church with him 721 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: and all of that. I mean, for the record, my 722 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 3: pops tried to be you know, I guess the best 723 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 3: he could. I mean, his faults from you know, the 724 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 3: abusive shit and who knows what. 725 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what my. 726 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: Pops was going through in his head. He had a 727 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: job at General Motors, so he wasn't like just a 728 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: dead beat motherfucker. But you never know, he was in 729 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: the military, you know what I'm saying. He was a 730 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 3: productive He probably got you know, he probably got on 731 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 3: that shit. Who knows when you know what I'm saying. 732 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: He was educated, motherfucker smart, had a great job. He 733 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 3: had a job at General Motors for probably over thirty years, 734 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But who knows what the 735 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 3: trauma of that shit is. You know, a lot of 736 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 3: motherfuckers went through, you know, the physical fighting and abusive 737 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: shit in the household around them seventies you get me. 738 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: For us who are or seventies or sixties kids, a 739 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 3: lot of that shit went down and it was overlooked, 740 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 3: you get me. But you know, for the most part, 741 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 3: my pops tried to you know, it was just it 742 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: was just the incidents. You get me. As a kid, 743 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: you can't, you really can't function with that shit. And 744 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: even when I would go over to that ways the good, 745 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 3: even when I would, you know, sometimes go over there, 746 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 3: it was still the shit cracking. You get me to where, Nigga, 747 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm in the motherfucking room listening to yelling and shit 748 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: going down, Like I don't want to come over to 749 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 3: this motherfucker no more, man, And so you start distancing 750 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 3: yourself because not that you you know, you trying to 751 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: like now, you know Pops, like I said, every kid 752 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 3: growing up had that sense. I want to you know, 753 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 3: my father is supposed to be everything. 754 00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: You get me. 755 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: When you look at the motherfucker shit that they portray 756 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 3: on the TVs and you read in the books, you know, 757 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 3: the father's supposed to be everything. He's the supporter He's 758 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 3: the motherfucking provider. You know, He's the motherfucker that's gonna 759 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 3: come whoop a nigga's ass when they come fuck with you. 760 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 3: And so I didn't have that, you know what I'm saying, 761 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: That's why gang banging started. 762 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 763 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: I had the homies and shit like that, and then 764 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 3: you start growing immune to it to where it got 765 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,479 Speaker 3: to the point to I was like, now I don't 766 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: do no summer vacations out there no more. Nah, I 767 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 3: don't want to pick up the phone and call I'm cool. Nah, 768 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm good because now shit, nigga got the I'm from 769 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: the hood. I don't need shit else, Nigga, I got 770 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: the homies from the hood. I got me a strap 771 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 3: in a sack and a father. Can't tell me shit 772 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: right now? 773 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: Your way, Hey, Mike, I wanted to ask you this, 774 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 2: what the way the internet he is right now? Like 775 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: I see a lot of people, man, like a lot 776 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: of adult men and women that look like they caught 777 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 2: up in the lives of all these online different these 778 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: different online personalities and even the people that watch your 779 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: shows sometimes right, it's like almost you got peopless invested 780 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: in this like, this is their reality? Where would that 781 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 2: stem from? You know, you know, you got to think 782 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: about it. 783 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 4: Man. Social media is real powerful man, you know what 784 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Just the influences. You got a lot of 785 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 4: people that watch these shows, watch y'all, you know, watch 786 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 4: a lot of the platform. Shout out to my homeboy, 787 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 4: Meley Mail out of Santana Block, you know, the hood 788 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 4: Postman in his situation. You got a lot of people 789 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 4: that listen to what we say. They depend on they 790 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: depend on these shows. You understand what I'm saying, because 791 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 4: what happens is it's not that people are living their 792 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: lives through the shows, you know what I'm saying, But 793 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 4: they won't answers to questions that they just can't you 794 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 4: know that they can't answer, you know, And sometimes these 795 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 4: shows they provide that. You understand what I'm saying. You know, 796 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: for me, I like you know, you know there's there's 797 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 4: a podcast Tim Wise. You know the white boy. You 798 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 4: ever heard of him? Look, you got to look him up, man. 799 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 4: He you know what he does is he talks about 800 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 4: how white people. What he does is he just roast 801 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 4: his own people, you know what I'm saying. And he 802 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 4: and he talks about, you know, how you know, how 803 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 4: white people has done the indigenous peoples over the years, 804 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 4: and how they how they've benefited off our labor and 805 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 4: all these types of things. You know, I like to 806 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 4: listen to those types of things, those types of podcasts 807 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 4: and what so forth. I listened to Lewis May, the Minister, 808 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: the Honorable Louis fair Count all the time. And you know, 809 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 4: some of these podcasts they get they they not only 810 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 4: do they give vindication to the mind of the people 811 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: that watches them, you understand what I'm saying, it also 812 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 4: gives validation. That's why a lot of these That's why 813 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 4: these kids are so fucked up right now, because they 814 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 4: watched these they watch these podcasts that that that deliver 815 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 4: all these fucked up messages, you understand what I'm saying. 816 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: And then these kids are knitny. They're not getting groomed 817 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: at home. Why because there is no father in the home. 818 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 4: The mothers and the mothers at work working all damn day. 819 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 4: When the mother come home, she don't feel like dealing 820 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 4: with the kid or talking to the kid. Don't even 821 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 4: ask the kid how his or her day was doing. 822 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 4: So the kid, you know what I'm saying they get 823 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 4: a lot of their lessons from these podcasts, man, And 824 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 4: unfortunately that's fucked. 825 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: Because I see people, man, you know in the comments section. 826 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 2: I had a guy one day, Man tell me, he said, 827 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 2: still SMD, Well, this is a man. I go back 828 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: to his page. Man, this dude is probably about like 829 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 2: twenty one two years old. 830 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 4: SMD. 831 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 2: You know, you know, suck my you know. 832 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 1: What the hell is Ryan? 833 00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 3: They still hold up before you. I let you speak 834 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 3: on that. But that's why they always fucking with you still. 835 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: You know. 836 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 2: The cold thing about it is, Man, again, that has 837 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 2: to be a mental problem. It has to be a 838 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 2: mental problem. 839 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 3: That just that just ain't a nigga bad you talking 840 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: about that. 841 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: He didn't like, he didn't like. 842 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: Like like they ain't been through it. 843 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 4: Just don't like, I ain't never seen that one. 844 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: That's what that's that's that's that's another supporter from the 845 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: other side. That's why he said, let. 846 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: Me get this off. Even if he was a supporter 847 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: from the other side. You inserting yourself into something that 848 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: you don't know nothing about, you know nothing about, you 849 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on. You just taking size and 850 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: stuff that you don't know nothing about. Right, And then 851 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: I even saw this, Right, I've seen people come in 852 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 2: under different things, right, under different names. Right, it be 853 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: the same person, but they got different names. They make 854 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 2: up all these different profiles. Though, when they send messages 855 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: to theyself. You know what I'm saying, just like this 856 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: crazy they like they come and comment on their own thing, right, yeah, 857 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 2: on their own posts, and it'd be like, man, these 858 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 2: people gotta be crazy. 859 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: Man. 860 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, no, that's the Internet game. People know that, you know. 861 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: The more support that they get for bullshit, it's gonna 862 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: make it relevant. So if I got if I go, 863 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 3: if I send you a text and I say SMD, 864 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'll go, gonna make twenty profiles, fake profiles 865 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: to come in to comment on that SMD shit, and 866 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 3: all of the comments gonna be like, yeah, that's right, 867 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 3: so and. 868 00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 1: So yeah man yeah, I man, what is still done? 869 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: He ain't this or that? Yeah? 870 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 3: Man, he can SMB for me too, you get me. 871 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 3: That makes it. That makes the motherfucking quote relevant. 872 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 2: And then he come back and say this, give homeboy 873 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: his money, Ryan, this. 874 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 3: Is still kill it big. Look, this is what I 875 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 3: say about people. Then people ain't motherfucking mental. They just 876 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: motherfucking They just haters and and and the thing is 877 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 3: what I say about shit like that. We got this 878 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 3: thing where it's supposed to be freedom of speech, and 879 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: this is it. This is what I used to go 880 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: through that ship. And still do you put up a 881 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: quote a nigga gonna come in and go he gonna 882 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: say something slick or something whatever, whatever it could be 883 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 3: from an anonymous page whatever, which means that somebody who 884 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,320 Speaker 3: really know you, they just don't want to expose themselves 885 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 3: for saying what they really want to say, but they 886 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 3: not they cowards or whatever, or they want to still 887 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: be able to smile in your face and laugh behind 888 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: your back. Okay, so there's something you can do about it. 889 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 3: I used to get pissed off and want to go 890 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: back word for word with a nigga and motherfucker like 891 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 3: for what, Wow, you want to say that. All you 892 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 3: can do from there is block a motherfucker or leave 893 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 3: it up, because like I said, that's your up here, 894 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: that's what you feel about it. But you're still here 895 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 3: and you're making comments. That's the world of the Internet today, man, 896 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 3: and people with you know what I'm saying with just 897 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 3: a nigga don't like you, and you got that, you 898 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: got you got that right, whatever you get me. 899 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 4: You got some people that all sit up there, sit 900 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 4: up here and fuck with you all day. 901 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 3: If you allow them to, man, a nigga will go it. 902 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,800 Speaker 3: Make it to me, this is what this what a 903 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 3: person told me. You ain't doing nothing but giving them 904 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 3: what they want if you take because you know what 905 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 3: they gonna do. They gonna take all your responses and 906 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 3: go post that shit and go Look. I meant look, 907 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:16,280 Speaker 3: I'm into it with Stele. Look he's responding. He's responding 908 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 3: to me. Oh, I got him so mad and in 909 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 3: the back of the nigga mine. He really don't got 910 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 3: no beef with you. It's just making him look good 911 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 3: because half the niggas that start talking shit the minute 912 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 3: I come on and go fuck you or he oh 913 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 3: I didn't Oh it ain't really like oh man, I'm 914 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 3: a true fan. Really, I'm a fan with They do 915 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 3: that because they really don't think they gonna get a. 916 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: Respond out of you. 917 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 3: That's why they just want to be the negative motherfucker 918 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: out of all the people who going yeah, still keeping 919 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 3: cracking and keep want they want. I'm gonna come in 920 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 3: nig nigga SMD and pay a nigga his money and 921 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: then it really you'll never see the nigga or the 922 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 3: nigga could be a motherfucker that you see every and 923 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 3: you'll never know it. That's just the world that we 924 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 3: live in, especially with the Internet. 925 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 4: Especially the motherfuckers that ain't got no profile picks. 926 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I ain't got nothing to do but fuck 927 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 3: with this nigga all day. I ain't got nothing to 928 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: do with fuck with them all day. And it was 929 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 3: so bad about it. You bite half of the time. 930 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna bite on it because it's just because first 931 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 3: of all, you don't like the shit on your page, 932 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 3: so you're gonna look at it and be like, who 933 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 3: is this motherfucker and a minute you go, ah, man, 934 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 3: shut the fuck up or mind your business. He go, 935 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 3: I got him now, I'm finna go back and forth 936 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 3: with him all day and bade him in me. 937 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 2: It's all I'm doing. His block and delete me. 938 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't think you. 939 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 3: D You can say niggas is mental, but that ain't 940 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 3: really no mentally ill. We got people out here with 941 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 3: real mental issues. 942 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: No, that's what I was gonna ask you, Mike, A 943 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 2: lot of these characters that pop up online and they 944 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: usually wind up on a White Boys platforms, right, right, 945 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 2: do you think some of these brothers got not putting 946 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: no names out there, nobody in particular, but do you 947 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: think some of these dudes got mental problems? 948 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: Though? 949 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know they you know, I mean we First 950 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 4: of all, I would have to make an assessment. But 951 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 4: any motherfucker had to sit on the internet all damn 952 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 4: day and go back and forth with somebody. There's some 953 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 4: type of mental name somebody. 954 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 2: You think krip Met got something wrong with him? 955 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 4: Come on, man, I mean, I mean, bless the brother's heart, 956 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying, but yeah, you know, it's 957 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 4: only it's only obvious that brother got some type of 958 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 4: cognitive issues going on. 959 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 2: Now we talk about cognitive issues because I see, now 960 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 2: you gotta do this. His father look just like him. 961 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: But he a blood, right, Oh, I saw that. That 962 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 2: is daddy for your vice lord. 963 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 4: Well, he he posed as a blood at one time, 964 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 4: and then he did say something about the vice Lord. 965 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 4: Brian's right. I saw that, you know what I'm saying, 966 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 4: But I don't know, I don't know if that dude 967 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 4: is his daddy or not, But that dude is crazy, 968 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Especially if he's not his 969 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 4: biological father. If he's getting on there just for attention, 970 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta take in the consideration. This motherfucker 971 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 4: might be mental, you know what I'm saying. 972 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he just make it up, said I'm his daddy. 973 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 2: But height told me your story about Kedy. He knew 974 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 2: they thought he was easy. He thought he was easy. 975 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 3: Rest in drugs, don't that ain't just a motherfucker who 976 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, that's a that's that's what 977 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 3: the one of the homies who you know continuously was 978 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 3: doing them drugs. And like I try to tell niggas, 979 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,759 Speaker 3: you know, was he out of contence? Yeah, he was 980 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 3: from the neighborhood, you get me. He got a bad 981 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 3: batch of a dose of some some water water and 982 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 3: if it firs, it fucked your brain up. It's in 983 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 3: bombing fluid. It fucks your brain up. So of course, 984 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 3: a motherfucker if if if he was a fan of 985 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 3: fucking Batman, he probably would have been walking around in 986 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 3: the Halloween costume going Nigga, I'm going to motherfucking Wayne 987 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 3: Manor and I'm waiting on Alfred to come pick me 988 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 3: up right now, you get me. That's real, that's real 989 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 3: mental issues. Or just like, I'm watching the program on 990 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: the sister who was I don't know how long ago. 991 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 3: This was the sister who was at the restaurant and 992 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 3: the lost heel sheriffs picked her up and then let 993 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 3: her out at like motherfucking twelve one o'clock in the 994 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: morning by herself. Right, it was a story like and 995 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 3: they had the program on TV and I'm watching and 996 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 3: they say, baby was in there talking like you know, 997 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 3: she was from Mars and she knew how to read 998 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 3: numbers and all that. That's somebody mental, you get me, 999 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 3: that's somebody who has an issue. 1000 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:50,720 Speaker 1: They said. 1001 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 3: She she showed she walked into the restaurant and just 1002 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 3: just say, we in there having a motherfucking corporate dinner. 1003 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 3: She come to our table and just sit down and 1004 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,280 Speaker 3: she kicking it and just start talking to people. Nobody 1005 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 3: knew her. She was talking strange and all that. That's 1006 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 3: mental shits, mental hit me, delusions. Were talking about audience. 1007 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 3: Some of these motherfuckers do this ship for for likes 1008 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 3: and for content and to be because right about now, 1009 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: being stupid is popular. 1010 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: You get me. 1011 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 3: If I can get on the motherfucking internet that crazy 1012 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 3: and say I'm missing, I'm not and next thing you know, 1013 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,760 Speaker 3: you look up, I have a motherfucking million hits. 1014 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 2: Man. That's why I really think some of these people, 1015 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 2: like you know, that's how they got these what they 1016 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 2: call them, these beckies, bed the Karens. It's just coming 1017 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: up on people like me and Ramley and doing shit. 1018 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 4: Though I think the people that wanted to those are 1019 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 4: moren some some of those people have mental. 1020 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 3: Is now some of their motherfuckers bes I say, people 1021 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 3: that want to have content is like people you just 1022 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 3: talking about, like you know, niggas just just that be 1023 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 3: just yelling and screaming for no reason and just all 1024 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 3: kind of outlied this bullshit like shit, like you be 1025 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 3: really like, why does motherfucker do this? A lot of 1026 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 3: them motherfuckers are phonies and do shit because they looking 1027 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 3: for fame. And like I said, now, being stupid and 1028 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 3: doing crazy shit it gets you fame. 1029 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: You get me. 1030 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 3: You ain't gotta go, you know, write no good song 1031 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 3: or motherfucking get in there and work hard and practice 1032 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 3: and do no shit. A nigga could get on the 1033 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: internet and do some dumb shit and next thing you know, 1034 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 3: he got a million followers and motherfuckers sending him Lamborghinis 1035 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 3: and he pulling up with chains and you be like 1036 00:53:53,719 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 3: this nigga dumb as a motherfucker. But Timmy, that's the 1037 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 3: world today, man, Like you'll think a nigga like this 1038 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 3: nigga's really crazy, but no he's not. 1039 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 4: You know what he's doing. 1040 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 3: I know what I'm doing. I'm gonna act like a 1041 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 3: motherfucking fool. You get me, I'm a run around and 1042 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 3: a motherfucking diaper with some motherfucking bullshit on my head, 1043 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 3: and watch tomorrow, I have a million fucking followers. Did 1044 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 3: you see this stupid nigga wearing a diaper and he 1045 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 3: was going around doing crazy shit and just fucking with people, 1046 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 3: Like you'll think a motherfucker crazy. That's how man got 1047 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 3: his fulling. Man, come on, you know what do you 1048 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 3: do crazy shit? You do crazy shit for content. Motherfucker 1049 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 3: you were And like, like, I come from the saying 1050 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 3: there's no such thing as bad publicity. All publicity is 1051 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 3: good publicity. That's where I come from. That's what motherfuckers 1052 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,759 Speaker 3: used to tell me all publicity is good publicity, whether 1053 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 3: it's good or bad. Your fucking name and your image 1054 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 3: is out there and millions or people of talking, whether 1055 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 3: they going that nigga stupid or whether they going damn, 1056 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:12,320 Speaker 3: that's cracking. 1057 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 2: Like you know, you being a dude from the neighborhood. Man, 1058 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: what makes you want to get into mental health? 1059 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 4: Like? 1060 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 2: How did you get into that? Well? 1061 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 4: I went to school, like I said, Man, you know, 1062 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 4: one of my attributes, man, was I was a reader. 1063 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,439 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1064 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 4: You know, I'd read when when other motherfuckers is watching TV, 1065 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm reading a book, you know what I mean. And 1066 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, you know I used to try to understand 1067 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 4: why I would have certain feelings about certain things, and 1068 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 4: I would go do my research on it, and it 1069 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 4: always led me to something something mental. So then when 1070 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 4: I when I when I went to school and I 1071 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 4: was trying to figure out what I wanted to be 1072 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 4: in life, you know what I mean, I was like, 1073 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 4: you know, what, what the fuck am I really gonna do? 1074 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 4: Be cause I'm you know, I'm a kind of a 1075 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 4: boogie nigga. Man, I'm not I'm not gonna go work 1076 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 4: for the city and dig no fucking homes and phil 1077 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 4: potholes and none of that type of shit. You know 1078 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 4: what I mean. You know, I really was thinking about 1079 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,839 Speaker 4: what am I gonna do? And then when I got 1080 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 4: into mentoring kids, and when I got into coaching, I 1081 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 4: got a job at the City of San Diego Parking Wreck. 1082 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: I became a center director. And when I started coaching 1083 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 4: these kids and dealing and dealing with a lot of 1084 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 4: the homeboys in the neighborhood game banging motherfucker's losing their lives. 1085 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 4: People will say, Man, go over there and talk to 1086 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 4: ball game. People would direct people to come and just 1087 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 4: holler at me. We got homies right now. You know, 1088 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 4: I say, the homeboys slick out of Campanilla Park. You 1089 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,360 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He'll literally say, Man, let me 1090 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 4: call a ball game because he always gives me good advice, 1091 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. A lot of the homeboys, 1092 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 4: you know, they call me like Mike, what you think 1093 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 4: about this? So you know, when I got my degree, 1094 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 4: I got my degree in business administration. So when I 1095 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 4: was going into grad school, that's when I start thinking, 1096 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 4: you know, people like Mike, you'll be a good social 1097 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 4: worker because you're already doing that, you know what I mean. So, 1098 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,359 Speaker 4: and I didn't realize that I was doing it when 1099 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 4: I would go to the high schools and talk to 1100 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 4: the kids about game Bang, when I would coach the 1101 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 4: kids and and all these types of things. When I 1102 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 4: was sitting on the city down in San Diego City Hall, 1103 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 4: I go to the council and I would talk to 1104 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 4: the council about you know, hey, we need some funding 1105 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 4: over here. This is why I didn't realize that I 1106 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 4: was already doing the social work. So when I went 1107 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 4: to school to get my master's degree, you know what 1108 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, that's that's when I decided I wanted to 1109 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 4: be a social worker still and end up working out 1110 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 4: for me. You know, social workers make a lot of money. 1111 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 4: It's a lot of burning out because you because you're 1112 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 4: dealing with people with mental health issues, You're dealing with 1113 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 4: people who are homeless. You're trying to help people get 1114 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 4: their sci payments, whatever it is that they need. You 1115 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, it's just all social services man 1116 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 4: and me myself, I enjoy it, you know what I'm saying. 1117 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 4: I actually picked a career that I enjoy and not 1118 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,479 Speaker 4: only did I make money. You know what I'm saying. 1119 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 4: You know, I see it back now, you know what 1120 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 4: I mean? You know, just off my last year's salary alone, man, 1121 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: I spent sixty racks on a food trailer that I 1122 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,480 Speaker 4: just bought because I don't need nothing. I don't buy nothing, 1123 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I own a couple of 1124 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 4: homes down there. You know, I don't give a fuck 1125 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 4: about no cars. I am working on a ride. I 1126 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 4: got a six six rag coming out. Putting a little 1127 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 4: bit of money into my yeah, putting a little bit 1128 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 4: of money into in a couple of things. But I 1129 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 4: don't spend no money still, and I like helping people, 1130 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 4: my brother, so that was my motivation right there. Man. 1131 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 4: You know, because one thing we did, man at least 1132 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 4: you said you and Brian from the Midwest. But one 1133 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 4: thing I think we did. But we wasted a lot 1134 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 4: of time game bank, you know what I'm saying. You know, 1135 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 4: and my brother and. 1136 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 3: I wasted all of my mid teens and all of 1137 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 3: my twenties. 1138 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 4: We wasted a lot of time game bank. 1139 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 3: And I was fucking I was fucking selling records and 1140 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 3: still didn't give a fuck. You didn't give a full 1141 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 3: all I wanted to do was go to the hood 1142 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 3: and just chill. I didn't know nothing else. Even when 1143 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 3: I started embedded. Yeah, even when I was making money 1144 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,919 Speaker 3: and all on B E T and magazines and all 1145 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: that shit, Nigga, I was still going to the block. 1146 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,360 Speaker 4: The things it's it's embedded in you. I don't know 1147 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 4: if you guys noticed, but I'm a musician. I play 1148 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 4: keys and drums, and Lou Silas Junior, who was the 1149 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 4: director of A and R for MCA Records back in 1150 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 4: the days, had hired me to play drums for when 1151 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,560 Speaker 4: New Audition then first came out and all these types 1152 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,920 Speaker 4: of things. So I was running back and forth from 1153 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 4: San Diego up to l A. You know what I'm saying, 1154 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 4: not trying to be an artist. I was a musician. 1155 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 4: I just wanted to play, you know what I'm saying. 1156 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 4: So I would, you know, I would go back and 1157 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 4: forth up here to come to l A and do 1158 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 4: a couple of gigs here, go out to the parties, 1159 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 4: have a good time. 1160 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: Eight. 1161 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 4: You and I have met a couple of times before, Homie, 1162 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 4: for sure, you know what I'm saying, back back and 1163 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 4: back in the days, and you didn't know who. I 1164 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 4: was a little skinny kid, had a flat top, little 1165 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 4: shag all that or top of you know what I'm saying. 1166 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 4: But I was, you know, I was on some different 1167 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,080 Speaker 4: ship back then, right, you know what I'm saying. 1168 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I was. 1169 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 4: I was a you know, I was. I was into 1170 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 4: some shit, you know what I'm saying. And and and 1171 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 4: the point that I was trying to make is that 1172 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 4: I end up. I started when I got shot. Me 1173 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 4: and me and the brother had a we had a 1174 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 4: car to car shootout. He hit me, I hit him, 1175 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Ended up getting a zip. 1176 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 4: I got stabbed a couple of times. I did my 1177 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 4: fair share of it. And uh, you know, when me 1178 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 4: and my brother Mellie got exonerated for a popping, these 1179 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 4: motherfuckers came to the house. They knew where moms lived 1180 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 4: because we stayed right on the front street thirty fifth Street, 1181 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 4: shot up the house. One time. We was waiting in 1182 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 4: the garage for the ass to come back showing up. 1183 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 4: The dumb asses came back, we got to pop and 1184 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 4: shoot out. My older brother had to slam my mama 1185 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 4: to the ground because her dumb asses come running out 1186 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 4: the house like what are you doing. Get on the ground. 1187 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Blah blah blah. Makeing a 1188 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,520 Speaker 4: long story short. It was after I got stabbed and 1189 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 4: after I beat my case. I beat my case, and 1190 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 4: that was one that at that one particular time they 1191 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: were trying to give me twenty two years. I was 1192 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 4: scared as hell. You know what I'm saying. If anybody 1193 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 4: would sit here and tell you that they they that 1194 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 4: they ain't never been scared of anything, I was scared 1195 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 4: at the time. He told you, I try to run 1196 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 4: right right, Well. 1197 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 3: Your fucking mask, Yeah, this stick, I could get it it. Boy, 1198 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 3: get a fucking traffic violation, guy, go do fifteen days? 1199 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Still like shit? I finished called by what run Sell. 1200 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 2: Was facing some time like that twenty year You gotta 1201 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 2: remember I'm fifty something. Dogs, that's the rest of your wife, crumb. 1202 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 4: Well, what't nothing but see at the time, I was 1203 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 4: only twenty two years old. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1204 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 4: So you know, but me, me and my brother, Me 1205 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 4: and my brother Millie. We end up beating the case. 1206 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 4: And when I got around twenty six years old, the 1207 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 4: red the red light literally went on like stop, you 1208 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 4: know what I mean, because the ship, the ship that 1209 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 4: I was into and the things that I was doing. Man, 1210 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 4: you know, my homeboy gains and earned rest in peace. 1211 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Man. 1212 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 4: I know you guys heard of that name. You know 1213 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The shit that we was doing back 1214 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: in the hoods, back in the days. Man, you know 1215 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Some people lost their lives and some 1216 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 4: of us got lucky. I got lucky, man. So I 1217 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 4: decided that I was gonna turn my shit around, and a. 1218 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Lot of us got lucky. 1219 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 4: Man, A lot of us got lucky, home boy, you know, 1220 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 4: because like I said, I'm part of the zipper. 1221 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 3: And then I'm saying, like, that's gotta be some form 1222 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 3: of of mental stress or health when you look up, 1223 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 3: like you said, some of us get to a point 1224 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 3: where we go, I can't do this shit no more. 1225 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 3: But then it's some of the homies who are still 1226 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 3: like they still there and they still in it, and 1227 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 3: that's all they know. And you know, you see a 1228 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 3: lot of dudes, you know, when you see niggas forty 1229 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 3: and over representing neighborhood to the fullest, it's a problem. 1230 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 3: You see a lot of dudes questioning like why y'all 1231 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:07,080 Speaker 3: doing that? 1232 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Why y'all. 1233 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 3: Come on, you're forty now, you're fifty now. Some of 1234 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 3: some some has the explanation of it's it's generational. 1235 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: It's like. 1236 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 3: It's a brotherhood. You know, you don't leave this behind. 1237 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Our only way out is if you die or whatever. 1238 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: You know. 1239 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: They they so you know what I'm saying, because you 1240 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 3: see a lot of especially over here, you see a 1241 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 3: lot of niggas around our generation and our age that 1242 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 3: still repped the block. 1243 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they know. 1244 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 4: I know a motherfucker as sixty three years old, man, 1245 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 4: and you know still still still like, you know, pushing 1246 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 4: the line. I'm like, man, what type of motherfucker is you? 1247 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 2: There's a whole lot of them. 1248 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 3: So that's why I said that gotta be some kind 1249 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 3: of mental health meant, you know, some kind of stress 1250 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 3: for you to feel like at fifty or forty plus 1251 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 3: sixty plus that you still have to, you know, represent 1252 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,560 Speaker 3: the block in that form. 1253 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,320 Speaker 4: It's a much bullshit. Eight How old are you still? 1254 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: Me? 1255 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 2: I'm fifty three? How old are you? 1256 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 4: Eight? I'm fifty two and I'm fifty six, so I'm 1257 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 4: the senior in the house. You did what I'm saying. 1258 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 4: I would never tell at this point, man, Well it was. 1259 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 4: It started when I was thirty years old. I never 1260 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 4: did try to groom some young brother into coming to 1261 01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 4: this bullshit. You know what I'm saying, always, man, man, man, 1262 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 4: go live your life and go go see some shit, 1263 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 4: Go do something, go to school, get educated. You understand 1264 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,960 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Live a productive life. This shit ain't productive. 1265 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 4: I used to have homeboys, used to be made man, 1266 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 4: Mike Man, Man, Homy. You don't even come kicking with 1267 01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 4: us under the gazebo no more? Nigga? Fuck you? 1268 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 3: Why is it that a nigga? Why is it that 1269 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 3: they feel because you get that, you'll get like you 1270 01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 3: don't represent no more. You don't you know, you don't 1271 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,040 Speaker 3: do this no more. You ain't you know, you ain't 1272 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 3: claiming the hood no more? You know, like, why do 1273 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 3: you feel some dudes even address that? 1274 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 4: Man? You know, I still can't get it to you know, 1275 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,040 Speaker 4: I normally can rational rationale some things, but this one 1276 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 4: I just can't rationale. 1277 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 2: One. 1278 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 4: Well, one thing for some of the brothers. So some 1279 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 4: of the brothers, they ain't never had ship, they ain't 1280 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,800 Speaker 4: never went nowhere. You dig what I'm saying, The hood 1281 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 4: is the only thing that they've ever had. You know 1282 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. What I'm saying, so they have they have 1283 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 4: this sense that they have a sense of loyalty. 1284 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: That is just. 1285 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 4: I always tell brothers, if you, if you, if you 1286 01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 4: can have this much loyalty towards your own personal endeavors, 1287 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 4: the same loyalty that you have to this to this 1288 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 4: hood or to a block where you don't even own 1289 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,680 Speaker 4: a house on the mother the fucker you dig. You 1290 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You would be successful, my brother. 1291 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. Your priorities is fucked up. 1292 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 4: But then again, I've also called motherfuckers out. Hey, if 1293 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,200 Speaker 4: you got a problem with me, motherfucker, I'll meet you 1294 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 4: at Ocean View Park. I meet you at South Chrest 1295 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 4: Park down in the basement, and then we can talk 1296 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 4: about it, because I'm gonna tell you right now, and 1297 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 4: where the camera and all you motherfuckers out there in 1298 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 4: the six one nine and elsewhere, No, good, God, damn 1299 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 4: well that I'll pull up and if you want a 1300 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 4: chunk on, I'm fifty six years old and I'll still 1301 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 4: slay these motherfucking things. Now. Do I choose to do that? 1302 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:32,919 Speaker 2: Fuck? No? 1303 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 4: You know why Because half of you motherfuckers ain't even 1304 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 4: worth or they ain't even worth the waste of my 1305 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 4: motherfucking time. And some of you clowns in the six 1306 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,320 Speaker 4: one nine know exactly who in the fuck I'm talking about. 1307 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna even get these motherfuckers that I'm not. 1308 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,800 Speaker 4: I don't nowadays. I used to dignify that shit with responses, 1309 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,919 Speaker 4: motherfucking me, me, I'll pull up at the park. What's 1310 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 4: now I don't even have to do that no more. 1311 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 4: You dig what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, 1312 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 4: nahe fuck that. And I'm and and another thing I 1313 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 4: got to say about about the city of San Diego. Man, 1314 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 4: the city of San Diego. Man, Man, don't get the 1315 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 4: six one nine fucked up because we started that ship 1316 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,439 Speaker 4: at the same time Compton and La and everybody else 1317 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 4: was getting busy. You did, know what I'm saying. And mother, 1318 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 4: and and every set in the six one nine, every 1319 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,480 Speaker 4: I don't get fucking if it's a crip set, if 1320 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 4: it was a blood set, you got some riders out 1321 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,280 Speaker 4: of each motherfucking set in San Diego. There ain't no 1322 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 4: punks in the sixth one nine. So I'm gonna give 1323 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 4: a shout out to my city, especially after this bootsy bullshit. 1324 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. So whatever happened with Boosy 1325 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 4: and San Diego, you dig what I'm saying, it was 1326 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 4: just a flu It was. It was, it was, it was. 1327 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 4: It was a fluke of the circumstances. And that brother 1328 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,960 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to deal with what he has to 1329 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 4: deal with. But don't get it fucked up. 1330 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 2: Man. 1331 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,960 Speaker 4: You come to San Diego, man, and you know somebody 1332 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 4: you check in. Not only are you gonna get protected. 1333 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 4: You dig what I'm saying, motherfuckers and San Diego's gonna 1334 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 4: be able to provide security for you. You dig what 1335 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Move around the town and have a good time. Man, 1336 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 4: you brought up Boozy. You know what I'm saying. I 1337 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 4: think boys looking at it, I think he might. I 1338 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 4: think I think I think I think with this gun case, 1339 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 4: man Boosy might like, like they said, did they give 1340 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 4: him ten, he might do what eight and a half 1341 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,320 Speaker 4: of his hen he looking at maybe eight? He in trouble. 1342 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 4: He gonna he gonna go sit down. 1343 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 3: You know, But especially if you got priors for firearms 1344 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 3: and you on parole or parbation for firearms and you 1345 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 3: get caught. I mean, there's no way you can deny 1346 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,759 Speaker 3: it because it's all on social media at the pistol, 1347 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,439 Speaker 3: and then they got the whatever the recording to where 1348 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 3: he was telling the bodyguards that they should have took 1349 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 3: the rap for the pistols or whatever. 1350 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 4: So his problem is he talked too fucking much. 1351 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. 1352 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 3: Like I said, again, we live in these times where 1353 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 3: a nigga will test you and then you know, if 1354 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 3: you claiming to be that type of motherfucker, you might 1355 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,719 Speaker 3: go to some sections where a nigga feel like, hey, nigga, 1356 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 3: you like like just like we was talking about last 1357 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 3: you know with with the female, there's just motherfuckers who's 1358 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 3: just gonna try to test you and see if you 1359 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,680 Speaker 3: that type of motherfuker. So you know, he he he 1360 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 3: said it was for show. It was for the video. 1361 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It was the it was 1362 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,800 Speaker 3: the Securities pistol, and he was. 1363 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 4: Gets you a prop gun some of you got if 1364 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,280 Speaker 4: he had if he had a couple of prop guns. 1365 01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 3: In My thing is this when you get to a 1366 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 3: certain level of of of MC artistry or whatever. 1367 01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: You don't even carry around no pistol. 1368 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 4: No you don't. 1369 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 3: You give me gotta be somebody else. I'm calmed in 1370 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm neighborhood. You know what I'm saying. If I'm in 1371 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 3: a situation like that, the security gonna have a pistol 1372 01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 3: because I ain't finna try to go to jail for shooting. Now, 1373 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 3: not saying that the nigga ain't been in situations, but nigga. 1374 01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to. 1375 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 3: You know, I don't like if I've been there, done that, 1376 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 3: you get me. I don't feel like I gotta I'm 1377 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 3: not even finna be grabbing a. 1378 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Pistol for a video said. 1379 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,080 Speaker 3: This is the thing, man, shit, I did when I 1380 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 3: was fucking twenty getting on a fucking video at fucking 1381 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,599 Speaker 3: fifty years You get me. 1382 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 4: Hit about forty two, forty three years old. But this 1383 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,560 Speaker 4: is a thing. Another thing. Man, If if if you 1384 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 4: got to pull up to a video shoot and have 1385 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 4: a pistol, you might reconn, You might. 1386 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Want to re might not want to be at the video. Shit, 1387 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 1: you might. 1388 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 4: Want to reconsider where you're doing a video. Shit. 1389 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 3: You Yeah, that's that's how I say. At a certain age, 1390 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 3: not that you are punk, but you gotta avoid bullshit. 1391 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 1: That shit. 1392 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 3: I know, I'm going to a section where we might 1393 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 3: have to add the pistols over here, Okay, we might 1394 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 3: want to move the location. 1395 01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 1: Then you get me. 1396 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 3: I don't need to go prove into a nigga that 1397 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,559 Speaker 3: I'm a hard nigga from Louisiana or content by jumping 1398 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 3: out and all the fans and the niggas on the 1399 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 3: block see me with the pistol, Like, yeah, nigga, You're like. 1400 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 2: What the fuck real? 1401 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 3: Why if that's the case, nigga, we need to move 1402 01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:19,720 Speaker 3: our location. And if I'm in a spot where I'm accepted, 1403 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 3: I damn show I ain't finna have no fucking I 1404 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 3: don't need't. 1405 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,719 Speaker 4: Need one, you understand. But at the same time, but you, 1406 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,679 Speaker 4: but a motherfucker has to be privy enough. You understand 1407 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 4: what I'm saying to put security on him or herself. 1408 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying. You have to make decisions 1409 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 4: to where you don't have to have the pistol. As 1410 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,639 Speaker 4: eight was just saying, you know what I'm saying. If 1411 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,360 Speaker 4: if I'm coming up here to do the Gangs of Chronicles, 1412 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 4: was invited to thank you my brothers again, if I 1413 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 4: felt that I needed a pistol to come here, I'm not. 1414 01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:55,639 Speaker 3: Coming exactly exactly like where y'all at and who y'all 1415 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,320 Speaker 3: fuck with? And then I feel like, hm, I might 1416 01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 3: need to take me a heater up there, when I 1417 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 3: that already has letting me know maybe I shouldn't be 1418 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 3: going to. 1419 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 4: Do it, and and and not to cut you off 1420 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 4: eight because I don't like to do that. I apologize 1421 01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 4: you good so. But before I came up here, I 1422 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 4: called my homeboy, Mitchie Slick. I said, Slick was having 1423 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 4: with this gangster chronicle they asking me to come up. 1424 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,759 Speaker 4: Slick said, Oh that's MCA He said, you cool, hummy, 1425 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 4: that's my peoples. Yeah, just like that, you did what 1426 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I asked questions, you understand, And then you 1427 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,599 Speaker 4: called Melly when I was up in Lancaster to go 1428 01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 4: see him for an interview before I went, I mean 1429 01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 4: before I checked back down in LA to go to 1430 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 4: see Drake get his award. And you know I always 1431 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 4: ask questions. You know what I'm saying, right, and Melly 1432 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 4: and Melly said the same Melly, Melly the Hood Postman 1433 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 4: said the same thing. He said, man still in eight 1434 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 4: he said, Mike, you good. As a matter of fact, 1435 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 4: you want me to pull up with you? 1436 01:12:59,360 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1437 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 4: People, you know, you know what I'm saying. You gotta 1438 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,520 Speaker 4: check your surround You gotta check your surroundings. 1439 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 1440 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 4: And and uh, you know, so you know, just just 1441 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 4: getting I checked three references, and all three of the 1442 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,080 Speaker 4: and all three of their references had nothing but good 1443 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 4: things to say about y'all. So I'm here, you know, 1444 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 4: and I done being invited to do a couple of 1445 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 4: other ones. In the first thing, man, what's going on 1446 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 4: with thieves over there? And I've had some people say, well, 1447 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 4: kind of be careful. This mother, forg got one foot in, 1448 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 4: one foot out. You don't know who gonna pull up exactly. 1449 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, all those types of things, 1450 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So you know, I ask questions. Man, 1451 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,439 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna put security on myself. 1452 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,320 Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying first and foremost. And then 1453 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,960 Speaker 4: when I come, I come in peace because you know, 1454 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,640 Speaker 4: we all brothers, man, and meet myself, you know, And 1455 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 4: I'm extremely sincere when I say this. Man, you know, 1456 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 4: somewhere down in line we gotta figure out how we're 1457 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 4: gonna stop heart hurting and harming one another man in 1458 01:13:58,720 --> 01:13:59,560 Speaker 4: our communities. 1459 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 2: Man, God damn, I think it's possible to ever get 1460 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 2: to that point, though, well, you know, I'll probably be 1461 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 2: dead and go. 1462 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 4: I was about to say, you know, I was just 1463 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 4: about to say, before you ask me that question, that 1464 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 4: I just hope that I can see that in my lifetime. Man, 1465 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 4: you did what I'm saying. You know, because when I come, 1466 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 4: I come with the utmost respect. Man. You know what 1467 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,720 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I don't care who you is. I don't 1468 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 4: give a damn what set you from. I don't, I don't, 1469 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't care how big, how 1470 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,719 Speaker 4: small man. One thing I do. I have a genuine 1471 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,040 Speaker 4: concern for my people. Man, you did what I'm saying. 1472 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 4: And and and and when I pull up, I normally 1473 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:33,679 Speaker 4: pull up solo bolo. 1474 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: That's me. 1475 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 4: I come by myself, you know what I'm saying. And 1476 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,479 Speaker 4: I and and and and I'm a very spiritual brother, 1477 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 4: you know what I So I look up to the 1478 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 4: sky and ask Joh, Joh, this is in your hands 1479 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 4: now I'm here. 1480 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 2: I ask your philosophy, man, if it's somewhere we're in 1481 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 2: my spirit, I feel like I gotta take pistols and 1482 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 2: do all this and that I'm just not gonna go. 1483 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that's the point. 1484 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Like I said, you you ain't niggas, ain't no punks 1485 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 3: or cowwarts or nothing like that. But being a grown man, 1486 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 3: you have to learn how to choose your options better 1487 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,320 Speaker 3: to avoid drama. And that's your choice you give me, 1488 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,520 Speaker 3: regardless of what a motherfucker might say or what their opinion. 1489 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 3: I'd rather be here than be locked up or laid up, 1490 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:26,360 Speaker 3: you feel me, And that's it. That's just the that's 1491 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,680 Speaker 3: just the end, motherfucking theory. You're gonna be locked up 1492 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 3: or laid up straight up, you know what I'm saying. 1493 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 3: So if I can avoid that, I damn should want 1494 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 3: to avoid getting locked up. 1495 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: You give me, especially. 1496 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 3: At this point, man, come on, I ain't got time 1497 01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,719 Speaker 3: to give me, and I'm damn showing in the position 1498 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 3: to how I need to be laid up behind somebody 1499 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 3: and some bullshit where nigga done laid me up? Because nigga, 1500 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,320 Speaker 3: why the fuck you even here? You know something, I 1501 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,760 Speaker 3: show shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be here. What's here 1502 01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 3: for me? 1503 01:15:58,439 --> 01:15:58,799 Speaker 1: Nothing? 1504 01:15:58,920 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Nothing? 1505 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 3: Your woman at the crib, your motherfucking kids is straight, 1506 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,439 Speaker 3: Your business is somewhere else, and your money is coming in. 1507 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 3: What the fuck am I doing here to prove to what? 1508 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm still hard like? 1509 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Man? 1510 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,080 Speaker 3: Please, I'm beyond proving you get. 1511 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 2: I just got that. The girl, the woman Carlicia Hood, 1512 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 2: the woman whose son shot the guy. They're folling a 1513 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,280 Speaker 2: lawsuit against the City of Chicago, the resting officers. 1514 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they dropped the case. So now she wants 1515 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 3: to file a civil lawsuit. But that that that ain't 1516 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 3: I don't think it'll stick because you're gonna say what 1517 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 3: you were wrongfully accused or wrongfully arrested, your son did 1518 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:44,360 Speaker 3: pop a motherfucker and whatever now we can, we'll claim 1519 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 3: it was self defense and we'll give you that and 1520 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,400 Speaker 3: we'll let you out. But you ain't gonna turn around 1521 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,960 Speaker 3: to try to get no bread out of us. Come on, 1522 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,439 Speaker 3: we just let you off on a fucking murdered your hearts. 1523 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what she should and. 1524 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 3: Didn't even then give your son like inviolnce terry mannslaughter 1525 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,759 Speaker 3: and no shit, he did kill a motherfucker, like okay, 1526 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,760 Speaker 3: he was beating your mama. But still how many times 1527 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 3: a a motherfucker? Go yeah, okay, but still, well, this 1528 01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 3: is what she said. I've experienced pain in many ways 1529 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 3: that I would never have thought. 1530 01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 1: She said, that's. 1531 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 3: The mental health. That's my mental health is fucked with 1532 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 3: right now. 1533 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 2: Hold on, She said, what happened to me was totally unnecessary. 1534 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 2: Never in a million years would I have imagined being 1535 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 2: brutally attacked, beaten and arrested. 1536 01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,760 Speaker 4: But this is what I'll say to missus Hood. Keep going, yeah, yeah, 1537 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 4: go ahead? Is that it it? 1538 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Hood's attorney, Aary Williams, told the Chicago Sometimes and Monday, 1539 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,560 Speaker 2: miss Hood is ill and has always been a victim. 1540 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 2: Brandon Brown, another lawyer for hood, Is, also hinted that 1541 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 2: additional lawsuits will be forthcoming. 1542 01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 1: She's always what. 1543 01:17:56,520 --> 01:17:59,880 Speaker 2: Happened to his Hood, likely there would be additional bossuits forthcoming. 1544 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. But the thing is, wonder what the lawyer. I 1545 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 4: wonder what the lawyer. I wonder what lawyer is going 1546 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:05,760 Speaker 4: to take that case? 1547 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: Program? 1548 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 3: And what do you mean by that? She's always been 1549 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 3: so she done? 1550 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Got her? 1551 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 4: Asked what before? 1552 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 3: Because if that's the case, ship, I've always been a 1553 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,160 Speaker 3: victim too shit. I done been pulled over and fucked 1554 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,679 Speaker 3: with by the police and fucking thrown and holding taints 1555 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:21,479 Speaker 3: and all kind of. 1556 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 2: She's paying for the for the son's college. She said 1557 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,639 Speaker 2: that that fourteen year old boy that back to him 1558 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 2: routing neck groom ass man, punching his mother in the 1559 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 2: face as if she were a man, is a true hero. 1560 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 2: If he wants to go to college, I'd love to help. 1561 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,679 Speaker 2: It's what any son should have done for their mother, 1562 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 2: I believe. 1563 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 3: I agree with I said that, like if if if 1564 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 3: I'm watching somebody socking on my mama and there's a 1565 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,440 Speaker 3: burner handy. 1566 01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,559 Speaker 4: He's he's in trouble, he's in trouble. 1567 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,679 Speaker 3: He might he might not make it, And like he said, 1568 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna chase him from here to the next block 1569 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 3: over rocket and I'm gonna empty the whole motherfucker. I mean, 1570 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 3: that's why I said, that's the love for mom. So 1571 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, so that's what I said. They let you out. 1572 01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 3: They're not gonna charge you with murder. They gonna say 1573 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 3: it was self defense. Okay, But this is another one 1574 01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 3: of my my, my, my saying exactly how is this 1575 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 3: city responsible for some brandom dudes, just socking you. 1576 01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,559 Speaker 1: You know what are you saying? 1577 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 4: Still? 1578 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,599 Speaker 2: Okay? Now tell me it's this mental health. She just stupid. 1579 01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 2: Ohio mom charged with murder after infant dies while she 1580 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 2: left on eighth DA vacation without her. Yeah, she crazy 1581 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 2: as hell, say. Chrystal larry Are thirty one admitted to 1582 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 2: leaving the little girl Xaling at the Cleveland home alone 1583 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 2: for eight days, all alone and unattended, and after David 1584 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: a team by u K YC showed she had traveled 1585 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 2: without the child to vacation in Puerto Rico and Detroit. 1586 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 2: The child was not living without any food of water. 1587 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:08,599 Speaker 2: The child. 1588 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,880 Speaker 4: They found a child in the garage. The child and 1589 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 4: went out to the to the to the garage and 1590 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,719 Speaker 4: I'm assuming getting and getting in the car thinking is mama, 1591 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 4: her mama was gonna come home and take her somewhere. 1592 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 4: She They found the poor child dead in the front 1593 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 4: seat of the truck in the garage. 1594 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what they said. Reportedly found Jalen unconscious 1595 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,200 Speaker 2: and extremely dehydrated. The infant's body was allegedly located in 1596 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 2: the state of disarray. The girls play peeing hit soil. 1597 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 2: Blankets in the bottom line are saturated with here in 1598 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 2: the feces. She was pronounced dead at the scene. 1599 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 3: Now you know what broke So they saying, the mama 1600 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,360 Speaker 3: went to Puerto Rico and just left her there, left 1601 01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:44,640 Speaker 3: her there. 1602 01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 4: That's that's mentor. 1603 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's steam my little baby though, that's the mentor. 1604 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 3: That's the mentor because you like it is some true, 1605 01:20:54,600 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 3: like I said, unfortunately, it's it's a serious problem. And 1606 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 3: mental health is real. And I know a lot of 1607 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,519 Speaker 3: regular average motherfuckers. You know, the way we look at 1608 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 3: you know, people with problems, we'll call them crazy and 1609 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,920 Speaker 3: and and hey, nigga, go you know what I'm saying, 1610 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 3: We don't really look at that too often about mental 1611 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 3: health and what real problems they are. But that should 1612 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 3: have been no way she should have been having a baby. Baby, 1613 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 3: You get me. If her if her motherfucking if her 1614 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,479 Speaker 3: mentality is I could go to Puerto Rico and leave 1615 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,879 Speaker 3: a sixteen month old in the play pin, you shouldn't 1616 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 3: have been having no kid, you get me. 1617 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 4: In the family, and the family should have made that 1618 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,519 Speaker 4: assessment as well, if she had family around. 1619 01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 2: The thing that make you question, like the neighbors respond 1620 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 2: to tragic news, I hope she pays what she did. 1621 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that makes you question what kind of father 1622 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 3: who laid up and had sex with her to have 1623 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 3: a kid, Because you gotta know there's some issues there. 1624 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,200 Speaker 3: You get me, You're not a normal motherfucking and you 1625 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,640 Speaker 3: just wake up and decide, Oh, I'm gonna leave my 1626 01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,800 Speaker 3: baby in the play pin and I'm finna go to 1627 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 3: Puerto Rico. 1628 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 4: Well, the first the first news. 1629 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 3: Not not to the grocery stores. Don't shit like that, 1630 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 3: but thistle to play this what the neighbors is saying. 1631 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:23,800 Speaker 3: They don't know why she didn't ask them for help before, 1632 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 3: because she said this. One neighbor said that the young 1633 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,639 Speaker 3: mother would sometimes would go days and weeks without contacting them, 1634 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 3: while soon lem watch the infant. So the neighbors said they. 1635 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 2: Already maybe all the time, and the mom be gone 1636 01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 2: weeks and days of the time without saying. 1637 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,960 Speaker 3: Them drugs, drugs and mental health and mental health man 1638 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 3: real talking. 1639 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so she had a pattern. So she had a pattern. 1640 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 4: I wonder, how come the neighbors and go over there 1641 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,639 Speaker 4: and try to do a welfare check and then and then, 1642 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 4: but they probably don't know the babies. 1643 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 3: That's why I say, shit, is left behind and shit 1644 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,880 Speaker 3: is is is put on desk skin and you don't 1645 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 3: get because they already knew she was fucked up because, 1646 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 3: like she said, she'd be leaving for days at a time. 1647 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 3: So right then and there, somebody should have been contacted. 1648 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 2: This woman was a teacher too, dog substitute elementary teacher. 1649 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 3: She's mental. I don't give a fuck what you say. 1650 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:26,280 Speaker 3: You know, normal motherfucker leaving a kid. Now, yeah, now 1651 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,519 Speaker 3: I know a motherfucker go kick it and shit, But 1652 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 3: at liasa motherfucker be back after at least a day. 1653 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 1: You get me. 1654 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 3: A motherfucker leaving a and done it several times. That 1655 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,400 Speaker 3: should have been like I said, why haven't the Why 1656 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 3: wasn't the neighbors like, hey, this lady then left her 1657 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,639 Speaker 3: baby here and she been gone for three days. Somebody 1658 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,679 Speaker 3: should have been contacted. But you just let her walk 1659 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 3: back up, hand her the baby and go, hey, she 1660 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,559 Speaker 3: does it all the time. If evidently you get me 1661 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 3: because they said it, she's left the baby, he's here 1662 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,719 Speaker 3: and been gone for several days. 1663 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,880 Speaker 4: So, like I said, there's a pattern. 1664 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 3: No social services was called, no nothing, no police, like 1665 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,519 Speaker 3: y'all let her do this at least two or three times, 1666 01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,760 Speaker 3: you get me, so. 1667 01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 4: No account of building. 1668 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 3: And then some motherfuckers don't want to get involved with shit, 1669 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,479 Speaker 3: but you're watching their kids, so like, oh, I don't 1670 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,160 Speaker 3: want to tell on her, or I don't want to 1671 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 3: call and get her in trouble and shit like that. 1672 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 3: You feel me, I don't want to get her in trouble. 1673 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:32,840 Speaker 3: So but now you telling what she used to do? 1674 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 3: It's too late. Now you get me? Now you think 1675 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 3: what we don't even want to hear from you? Now 1676 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 3: what the fuck? Now you want to say, Well, she 1677 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 3: used to leave the baby here for days at a 1678 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,320 Speaker 3: time and be gone. Okay, So why you're telling, motherfucker 1679 01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 3: two months ago that shit, or three months ago or 1680 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 3: a year ago or whatever said the baby was only 1681 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,960 Speaker 3: sixteen months and you already got incidents where she's in 1682 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 3: left the child there and been gone for several days. 1683 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 3: That's a red fucking flag. 1684 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, social service, because I'm gonna tell you leave 1685 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,800 Speaker 2: your baby with somebody. For you leave your baby with 1686 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,240 Speaker 2: somebody for a day, your checking in something wrong. I'm 1687 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:12,799 Speaker 2: gonna tell. 1688 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,679 Speaker 3: You, man, you leave a baby in the fucking car. 1689 01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 3: You see how motherfuckers be all surrounding the car. You 1690 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 3: mean to tell me you leave a baby for days 1691 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 3: at the neighbor And nobody's like, I'm gonna tell you 1692 01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 3: this bitch, I got a job to go through. I'm 1693 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 3: still sitting here watching this baby. 1694 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 2: One year olds in the car. Dog, aren't you gonna 1695 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 2: do something to see some kids? You don't know? I've 1696 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 2: seen a couple of times. Dog, I saw like some kids. 1697 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:44,240 Speaker 2: They was probably like one probably like thirteen fourteen months 1698 01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 2: and the other one was a baby, and could tell 1699 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,559 Speaker 2: the little brother was in there trying to watch them. 1700 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 2: They got the windows rolled up. Dog. I went and 1701 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,840 Speaker 2: got the mall security and had them open up the 1702 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 2: motherfucking door. And I had to open up the door. 1703 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't just leave them there. Open the 1704 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 2: door up and get leave the door open for the kids. Right. 1705 01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 2: Wife went and got them some waters out the mall, lemonades, 1706 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,120 Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know what I mean. And in 1707 01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 2: there waiting for the mom to come back. She come 1708 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 2: out there, young girl, dog with a young but a 1709 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:18,679 Speaker 2: guy right and I said, oh, well, what is y'all 1710 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,880 Speaker 2: messing with my kids? For mind? You're on fucking business. 1711 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 2: I said, these kids could have died out here. It's 1712 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 2: about ninety degrees I here, so you know, if it's 1713 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 2: eight degrees outside in the cars and cars a hundred 1714 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 2: They black white Mexican shit young know, and I don't 1715 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 2: know if they got them to do that. I just think, 1716 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 2: but this with these young people. Dog, See when you 1717 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 2: have a kid, man with people don't understand the moment 1718 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 2: you have a child, the shit you got going on 1719 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 2: over with, Yeah, real talk, it's over with all your 1720 01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 2: little dreams and aspirations. It's about what they got going 1721 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,040 Speaker 2: on now. So see a lot of these young kids 1722 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 2: go out and have got babies and stuff. Dog, or 1723 01:26:55,840 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 2: don't realize the responsibility that it is. You know what 1724 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying, responsibility. Fuck you going out and want to 1725 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 2: have fun and kick it. 1726 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 4: It's not about you. 1727 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 1: Now. 1728 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,679 Speaker 2: She up there meeting the nigga at the mall, probably 1729 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,559 Speaker 2: don't want to the movies and everything else. Lift them 1730 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:13,880 Speaker 2: on the car with a water bottle. Take care of 1731 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 2: your little brother while I was gone, And then you 1732 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,639 Speaker 2: gotta wonder where they daddy is that she probably ain't 1733 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 2: evenletting the daddy see the babies. It's a lot of 1734 01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 2: fun up ship. But man, I appreciate you coming here 1735 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 2: to sit down with his man. 1736 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 4: Yah yay again man, yeah, man, I'm always recepted to 1737 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 4: coming and sitting down with you good brothers man. And 1738 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,679 Speaker 4: you know, I really enjoyed myself. You know, the ride 1739 01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 4: was cool. Man bumping some so os band that's right, 1740 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,280 Speaker 4: call the men coming up, air conditioner on. And I 1741 01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,720 Speaker 4: just you know, just in my thoughts, you know, so 1742 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,800 Speaker 4: you know, I you know, I want to give a 1743 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 4: shout out again. I want to give a shout out 1744 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,160 Speaker 4: to my homeboy Mellie Mail, the hood Postman. I want 1745 01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,080 Speaker 4: to give a shout out to Mitchill Slick. I want 1746 01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,520 Speaker 4: to give a shout out to my younger brother Mail 1747 01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,240 Speaker 4: up out of Atlanta. I want to get a shout 1748 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,639 Speaker 4: out to ce Low. I want to give a shout 1749 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,519 Speaker 4: out to the Goodie Mob. I want to give a 1750 01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 4: shout out to King Floatie up out of Atlanta. I 1751 01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 4: want to give a shout out to the young brother 1752 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 4: that just passed away in Houston. What's his name? Oh yo, 1753 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 4: big Poky, big Ques right, And I want to give 1754 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 4: a shout out to, you know, blessings and peace to 1755 01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 4: that brother and his family. Man. And I want to 1756 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 4: give a shout out to all the black communities across 1757 01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,200 Speaker 4: this great United States. Man, I love you brothers and sisters, man, 1758 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,559 Speaker 4: and I just hope that one of these days we 1759 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 4: as a community can get it together man and come together. Man, 1760 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 4: and and and literally. You know I'm gonna say this, man, 1761 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 4: practice what these white folks practice. 1762 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Man. 1763 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,639 Speaker 4: You did what I'm saying, so you know again still 1764 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 4: eight Brian. You know, thank you for having me, man, 1765 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 4: and you know I'm willing to come on any time. 1766 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 2: Man. You brothers asked me for sure. Man, where can 1767 01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,519 Speaker 2: people get at you on Instagram? Because I know you 1768 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,840 Speaker 2: glass catch DM you if y'all going through something may 1769 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 2: hit the brother up. 1770 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 3: Man. 1771 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 2: What's your Instagram? 1772 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 4: My Instagram is Michael with a Y M y c 1773 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 4: h A E L the with a A the th 1774 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 4: h A ball game. Yeah, man, it hit me up. 1775 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 2: Man. 1776 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 4: If your brothers and sisters need need to talk, man, 1777 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 4: just to give me a hollow man, I am gonna start. 1778 01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,720 Speaker 4: Everybody merely been on my hammet about starting my podcast. 1779 01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm calling it the Platinum Carpet. You did what I'm saying, 1780 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 4: so I'm gonna I'm gonna end up starting that and 1781 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna start going live a little bit more on Instagram. 1782 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,640 Speaker 4: I'm really not into social media all like that, but 1783 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,559 Speaker 4: a lot of people has been talking to me saying, Mike, 1784 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,000 Speaker 4: you know, you can benefit a lot of people if you, 1785 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, kind of make yourself a little bit more available. 1786 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 4: So you know, I am gonna start doing that, you know. 1787 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 4: And you know, and and and all your brothers and 1788 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,519 Speaker 4: sisters out there. And what just when I say brothers 1789 01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 4: and sisters, I mean whites say, had a girl take 1790 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,639 Speaker 4: off of the body. You know, you guys take care 1791 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,160 Speaker 4: of yourselves, take care of your families, man, and be well, 1792 01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And and uh and and 1793 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,000 Speaker 4: I wish you all well man. And I really appreciate 1794 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,519 Speaker 4: this platform for sure. 1795 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Good looking family, they appreciate it. 1796 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 1797 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,960 Speaker 2: So you guys make sure all to follow our Instagram page. 1798 01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:21,920 Speaker 2: Against the Chronicles podcast The Homeboy ms paget Hey way. 1799 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we do. We out of here, Jill. 1800 01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,600 Speaker 3: If my notes like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the 1801 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,600 Speaker 3: truth and nothing. 1802 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 4: But your. 1803 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Well. 1804 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,959 Speaker 2: That concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. 1805 01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to download the i Heeart app and subscribe 1806 01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,200 Speaker 2: to the Gainst the Chronicles podcast for Apple users, find 1807 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,240 Speaker 2: a purple Michael on the front of your screen, subscribe 1808 01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 2: to the show, leave a comment and rating. 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