WEBVTT - The Hit Boy and Big Hit Episode 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:02.000 B all right, job. 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:08.080 All across the USC Compton watch Bay to La, come 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:10.760 on to California day from valley to valley. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.160 We represent that Keller County. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.480 So if you're keeping it real on your side of 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.800 your town, you're tuning into Gainst the Chronicles. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:20.840 The chronic goals. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.279 He gonna tell you how we goals. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.480 If I lie, my nose will grow like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.120 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truths 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:30.480 the chronic goals. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:32.680 This is not your average show. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:37.160 You're now tuned into the rail MC ain't big change 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:38.360 and big spiels. 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.000 Strictly from the streets. 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:48.960 Hello, Welcome to the gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:52.360 of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.320 you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.200 For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.200 Subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a start rating the comment 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.400 what's happening? We like to welcome you to another episode 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.360 of Against the Chronicle show. Usually you would hear that 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.040 Jed coming in, but my man MC is stuck on 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.840 that ninety one freeway somewhere, but he'd be here shortly. Today, 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.479 man got some special people in the house. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:18.759 Man. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:23.320 You know, they just proven that everybody else in the 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:25.840 game is lazy, man, because the average artist put out 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.880 an album man, like every year or so sometimes every 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.600 two years. This brother don't drop two classics already, man, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.679 you know, two classics are already just out, just home 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.959 related the world, Wolf from London. You know, the truth 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:40.720 is in his eyes. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:41.000 Man. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.679 That was the first joint he laced us with Man, 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.360 and then he dropped this other one with Game. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:46.679 Man. 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.240 That's just a phenomenal album Man, that I was banging 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.520 on the way over here. Man, let me ask you 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:53.880 all a question, how long did it take you? Did 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.400 y'all really do that album? In? Twenty four hours? Les less? 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.800 And really like one session, bros? Maybe like anywhere between 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.600 y'all want to say like nine and eleven hours something 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:03.880 like that. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.520 Yeah, Paisley's rings and y'all throw to the title and 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:07.680 everything is I like the title? 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.280 Yeah, I mean I was made. We shot a video 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.760 two days later and dropped it the next day, like, 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.720 dropped the album in the video the next day time. 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.400 Shit, oh for sure. And these guys don't need no introduction, 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.359 I'm sure you know, man, we got big hitting the 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.320 house man and hit boy. It's sorry, sir, So I 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.160 want to go a little bit because I don't listen 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.880 to all the interviews, bro, and there's so many questions 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.760 I wanted to ask you, man, because you got a 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.680 real deep story, man. And I think what y'all doing 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.959 is phenomenal. Me being a pops man and getting to 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.720 see my son play professional football. It's just like you know, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.120 when you watch your kids succeed, Man, it's just like 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.119 you succeed in yourself. Look you feel what I'm saying. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.280 It's like a real surreal feeling. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.640 When my son's name got called, I was just like, damn, man, 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.560 don't really want to did it? You know what I mean? 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.040 You know, just think the bottom in the park man. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.480 And I know y'all man, like so many of our 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.520 other brothers. Man, you was caught up in it system 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.160 and I he was listening to hip boy talk like 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.720 he was like, I've been wanting to do this, but 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.359 every time we come close doing it, something else happened. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:07.600 Man. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.600 Man, are you from Pasadena? Man? Where we Yeah, we're 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.200 in Pasadena right now. I was yeah with it, you 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.400 know what I'm saying, yeah, when did you catch your 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:16.919 first case? 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:18.480 Shit? 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.239 Uh fuck, I think I was probably eleven. 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.360 Eleven years old, because you still young as motherfucker. When 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.160 he was like that hip boy's popping, I'm like, sure, 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.000 ain't his brother met as we look young as hell. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:30.880 Everybody saying that. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.320 You made me where I gotta step my game. I'm 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.120 like one here looking like he twenty five or thirty. Man, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.640 you know what I'm saying. So you catch your first 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:39.720 case when he was eleven? 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:40.000 Man? 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:40.560 Yeah? 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.600 Yeah, shooting, shooting lights out and the shooting neighbors windows 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.120 with baby got palate guns and ship. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.600 Now, let me ask you this, man, if they'd let 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.320 you slide, did you think you would have one on 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.120 and did the other things that you did? 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:55.880 Did the police would have let me slide? 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.520 Yeah, Like, if they just let you slide, you was 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.920 a little keen. He was eleven years old. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.040 Man, I was getting my ass beat. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.040 That shit didn't work, and the police nothing nothing. Jail 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.520 still didn't change me, my nigga. All that I've been 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:13.800 locked up my whole life, and it still didn't change me, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:18.480 my nigga. Like on God in Heaven, jail didn't change me. Circumstances. 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.200 Did you know what I'm saying, A little like like this, 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:27.400 you know, my son and my grandson, this little but 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.400 before I got out, my mind was still in the 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.440 you know, it just made me a better criminal. You 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.520 know what I'm saying, everybody, there's no rehabilitation in that 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.320 motherfucker for real is fake rehabilitation. It's only so far 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.160 you can go. You gotta do certain programs that they do. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.880 It's all textbook shit that you know that they can 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:47.760 get their dollars on. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.039 Yeah, because that's one of the things I say. I'm 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.240 not a big fan of jail man because I do 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.720 believe it just turns people into better criminals. And you 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:58.000 just go. It's like, man, when you're in an environment 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.760 like that, you gonna have to get down for your 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.080 co huh man. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.440 Oh yeah, it's stuff like you can go on. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.720 That motherfucker and just go do study. You feel what 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:07.200 I'm saying. It just just chilled me. 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.200 You can, you know you can? 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:10.880 You can. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:16.120 Real so yeah, if you press the liner, you really focused, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.560 you know what I'm saying. But it's it's just I 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.159 ain't gonna say it's hard, but it's in the whole 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.200 in the situation with so much negativity and so much 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.200 influence and just the flow is so weird. It fucked 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.840 up with the police have push you and push you 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.800 that way. You know, you gotta be really focused, like you. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.839 Know me, You just gotta be really focused. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.440 Man, so tired. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.040 So you started out when you was left and that's crazy, man. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.400 They just sending an eleven year old cat man just 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.240 out the way. Man, we got to think of some 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:46.800 better shit in this country. Do you know we're the 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.040 only country to do shit like that. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.920 Yeah, they didn't send me though, you know, Miles and 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.440 then was coming to save me. I was getting saved 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.760 all the way to seventeen until I really went on 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.560 the run. You know what I'm saying. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:58.920 It was in North Carolina. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.600 Now, I was in the hood in Pasadena, and I'm 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.880 saying when you went on the riters, Yeah, I was 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:05.520 on the run. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:06.839 Y'all went to North Carolina. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.320 Well, so you was just really on the run. You 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:09.760 just won't. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:09.960 Yeah. 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.080 I when I plushed, I was was supposed to get 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.640 like seven years. I call with like ship like half 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.920 a break and uh, like gang of guns. I was 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.440 like five or six guns and uh, I was already 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.359 had fought some cases and judges like you. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.000 Just a minute to yourself. I was already supposed to 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:29.640 do some time. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.560 I was supposed to turn myself in and I had 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.400 got caught with another half a break in some guns, 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.440 and it was like and they was like, you was 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:44.320 supposed to turn itself in anyway, and I shook. I 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.360 hadn't fight that catse I just bounced you just yeah, 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.480 on a run like a fuck. But the fails was 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.280 only they waited to I turn. You know, they was 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.760 already on me. They just waited till turn eighteen because 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.080 they can't really do ship. So if you would have 0:06:59.120 --> 0:06:59.960 turned juvenile, sh. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.880 It's the one one just did your time just one 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.360 year old, you probably could have got out that much. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.520 Yeah, I could have, yeah, juvenile, it would have been. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.000 That's I don't know what I was facing though. I 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.080 don't know what they would have gave me. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.560 Yeah, but that's long. You know, when you get talked 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.760 about getting caught with a half a bird, especially when 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:15.280 we hear was. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:22.200 This man, shit, this is uh what eighty eight yeah, eighty. 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.280 Eight man, they was giving more for this real time man, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.520 you know, they was giving more for they was passing 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.720 no time that dope especially, yes, because I know the 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.280 laws was a little different. Was was it powdered or 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:31.960 was rocked up? 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:32.520 Huh? 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:33.360 Nah, it was hard. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.360 It was you know, yeah, he was gonna do some time. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.520 You'd have been better off it would have been powered. Yeah, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.320 It's almost like we was doomed the field. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.000 No, I know thisiced how they was a hundred the 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.600 one back then. I mean I got caught up with 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.240 some more ship and they sent me up the river, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.480 got caught up in North Carolina with like three bricks 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.640 and like fifteen guns and uh they ain't turn nothing 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:54.920 there but like nine ounces. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.040 And I wasn't complaining. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:02.000 You said, I'd like three guns and uh in like 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:05.520 nine zips. But I'll just say ship about it. 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.080 Yeah. Let me ask you something though, bro, Do you 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.280 think we was almost set up to fail during that 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.080 era because I remember when Rocks first started class or 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.480 that was almost like the saved during the neighborhood because 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.760 I had started seeing all these man eighth grade man, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.840 you know, all this quorders and shiit cadillacs and shit, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.920 and I was like, damn, I got it, and it 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.120 was just so easy. Man. It was almost like it 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.760 was a set up. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:28.240 Man. 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.200 I used to have to really try to find people 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.520 to smoke. I done made people smoke, crack my nigga 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.240 on God in Heaven. Police stuffs literally pulled me over 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.040 and pulled rocks out of my pockets, my nigga, and 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.600 put them back in my pocket. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:41.880 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.120 Didn't know what the fuck it was. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:45.400 Yeah, That's how it was when at first they didn't 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:46.760 know what it was and didn't know what it was 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:47.480 doing it. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:47.720 Man. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.840 Then when the time came in, when they once they 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.439 found out what it was, they started getting us. The 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.200 time of the crazy part of the bottom. Man, if 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.920 you had that ord, you was almost getting like one 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:57.600 hundred to one. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.000 That's what it was, right show hundred to one. That's 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.800 what I got sentenced to the A forty six, the 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:05.640 conspiracy and. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:06.240 All that shit. 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.240 That was when he was saying the life yep. But 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.560 I just I tapped out early. I'm like, fuck, they 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.280 was doing too much. They want to snitch on the 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.120 plug and niggas started to see statements and all kinds 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.719 of shit in New York and Chicago, you know what 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.800 I'm saying. Indiana and North Carolina got caught in North Carolina, 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.520 but I was everywhere. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.000 But I said, I that's what it was a lot 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.240 of brothers. I'm originally from Cleveland, man. I came out 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.319 to California in eighty seven, and it was a whole 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.040 lot of brothers from California that was pushing up like 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.839 to Ohio, Indiana in different places. And they came with 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.520 them prices man, and you know, oh god, and it 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.840 was a money being made. Absolutely, it was a whole 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.920 lot of money being made. So how was you when 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:49.400 you had hit? 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:51.120 Uh? Shit? 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.640 I was fourteen when I, you know, got his mama pregnant. 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:57.640 You were fourteen? 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:57.920 Man? 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.760 Did that kind of changed you a little bit? Man? 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:01.679 Did like the tur you just a little bit? 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.040 Look when they actually had him, Yeah, I was like 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.280 I was a young father, you know. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.360 So I kept him with me, like he keep him 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:10.840 with him. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:11.800 Hey, that was me. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.080 I kept him with me. You know what I'm saying, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.920 all swap mace and you a fuck. I was rolling, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.000 hitting corners, jumping out, serving, picking up bread, doing all that. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.439 I was. You know, that was that was that was 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:24.880 really I know it was hazardous. 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.480 You know, I was looking back at it, but just 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.240 at that time, I didn't. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:31.120 I didn't care. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.360 Yeah, when we said, it's a whole lot of shit 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.400 we do when you look back and not like man, I. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.760 Was slipping no baby seat, no nothing and sixty five 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.240 and the killer Daytons like on the show, hitting calling 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:43.760 like in the other everywhere. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.000 He got locked up for that long stick till I 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.720 was drown. That was one two years old, riding around 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.040 with the cards see the ship. 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:53.480 Let me ask you this, how did that impact you? Man? 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:54.959 Because this seemed like you can just look at you 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.560 and your pomps until y'all held the close. Yeah, how 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.440 did that impact you? Because I know you remember man. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.000 Nah for sure, bro, just like being I remember being 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.240 the elementary. I actually went to Longfellow right here down 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.719 the street like I was the first elementary. I went 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.480 to our ear and uh, I just remember like seeing 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.800 kids that had they pops and ship and that just 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.840 was something that always tugged at me. Was like fucking 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.400 with me, like damn, Like I know my pops, well, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.439 like I go visit them. We go to Long Beach, 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.160 Stak prison, I get letters, we be on the phone, 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.160 but then like I don't got that same where motherfuckers, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.880 your dad is coming to pick them up from school 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:33.599 and shit like that, and I always felt like, you know, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.760 I was missing that, but I just stuck through it. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.439 Yeah, and how much have the few you going on 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:40.880 your run because you won the game? 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:41.120 Man? 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.520 Because I know some Colass producers and only this many 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.200 of them make it, like I'm talking about, really making 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.400 if they ain't getting fucked out, they beats by somebody 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.839 else producer. You know, you kind of made it through 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:54.679 the whole little matrix. Man, you know the way. We 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.480 ain't gonna speak on the other stuff, but you know 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.480 it's on your one little situation. Because I remember the 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.280 homie alone telling me about you a long time ago. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:03.559 He was and I got you got it? 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:06.480 Yeah, No, I know, gim maloons is oh five. I was, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.760 you know, fresh out of high school. I think it 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.640 was a summer I got out of high school. I 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.760 was just linking up with a gang of different musicians 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:17.319 and ship. Somebody knew glasses and we tapped in. Remember 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.160 he rapped on them up beats like it was one 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:20.559 of my first batch of beats. 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.880 Yeah, that sounds like you and you man, you know 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.680 big here you locked up and you've seen your son 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.680 going this a sanction. Man, how did that make you feel? 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:29.920 Though? 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:31.160 Man? 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:36.040 Just proud, just like just uh, I enjoy that. You 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.559 can't explain, you know, saying like you said, it's just 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:39.800 I felt. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:42.199 Like I you know, it was me. He was in 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.920 there for like Pam, that's my son. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.920 Oh god, yeah, let me ask you, Nigga, that's me, Niggas, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.480 that's my son, that's me, that's the part of me, 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:52.320 that's my seed. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.160 Where was you when Niggas in Paris came out? Man? 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:56.360 Where was I at? 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:56.719 Yeah? 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.839 I should Yeah, I was locked up for show, but 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.679 I can't recall. Like when I found out, I was 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.000 already bomping it, like you know what I'm saying, Travis 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.280 Scott all that shit. I didn't really know nothing, you 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.640 know her, I was in the hole. So probably when 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.199 I got out and I was listening to it and 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.199 Niggas was talking in the next cage, you know what 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.520 I'm saying, like, oh yeah, that's hey boys. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.480 Shit, I'm like, damn, I. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.199 Ain't say shit like you know that's my wol He's 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.319 not what it done. 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:26.640 Yeah. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.520 I just thought to myself, like, damn, that was really 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:30.400 my favorite song. 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.400 And did you have a did you always have a strategy, mean, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.079 like as soon as my pops get out me and 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.319 it's own and cracking. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.880 No, for sure, we uh man here like I said, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.040 and you know, like you said about the interview that 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.719 I talked about, like us getting there, getting close, you know, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.360 I feel like we was gonna finally put the album 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.599 together and then bowl we get locked back up, Like 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.280 it just was always on the top of our head, 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.240 like we was tapping in. He had you know, this 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.640 last go around has cell phones and ship so we 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.760 and we on the phone, you know what I mean. 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:04.240 I didn't put him on the phone with NAS while 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.160 I'm in a session with NAS just to give him 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.880 like some encouragement and shit like that. And we just 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.520 was cultivating the energy before he even touched down. That's 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.679 why as soon as it happened, you know what I mean, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.760 it was just like instant, like you know what I mean, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.920 Like we ain't stop it, And it's just like like 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.400 out of a personal fear, like I only know him 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.800 for being locked up for the most part of my life. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.040 I'm thirty six, but for thirty years of my life, 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.120 you've been behind the walls. So it's like that's a 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:31.080 real fear. So it's like I'm trying to get it 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.880 all out right now because I don't know how life 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:33.480 going end up. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.040 Yeah, it's like, man, you could tell that you touched 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.400 down and just like you just jumped off that motherfucking 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.320 bus running my nigga. Yeah, I mean, because you all 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.840 ain't stopped. Man, I was looking the first thing I saw. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.000 That's when I called glasses. I said, Man, that's dupe 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.000 as hell dude doing shit with his pops. Man, that 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.360 shit is called you know the dude that because you 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.040 know they always give us the rapids black fathers man, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.120 that we're not around our kids. And that's not true 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.720 because every black man I know everything I fuck with, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.600 they love their kids. Hey yeah, I know their kids. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.200 I don't give a fuck up they thudding or a 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.400 square or whatever. They love their kids and they sounds 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.960 is always with them, you know what I mean. And 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.880 so when y'all came home with this master playing man 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.960 that you sit pop down and talk to him like, man, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.480 I just need you just just chill. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.680 I gotta do that every day to this day right now. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:19.720 But I did get like I still gotta do it, bro, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.480 because it's like, you know, the money come a little 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.400 slower in this game. So it's like, you know, Bro, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.360 didn't touched some bread in the last eight months. But 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.000 it's like shit is real out here. Motherfucker's got to 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.720 spin to keep this shit going. So it's like I'll 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.320 just be trying to tell them, like, Bro, you like, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.400 fuck a buzz nigga, you got really you got niggas talking, 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.840 You got all type of motherfuckers, you know, hopping on 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.520 features with you, locking in, reaching out, you know what 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.000 I mean. I just had twenty one Savage reach out 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:46.640 to me on the other d M the other day, 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:49.160 just like saluting, show love to what we're doing. And 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.160 I'm just like it's really touching, like you know, the coaching. 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:55.840 Sure, man, you gotta get out of California for a minute. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:57.760 Uh not really. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.080 I mean I've been everywhere I go to New York 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.560 and North Carolina, my nigga, everywhere you think of, you know, saying, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.960 have been there, Vegas, No Humble County, shit, Massy. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.160 Cole, like Mexico Head. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.480 I mean, we worldwide, mon niggas. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:13.840 So let's get some of that money. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:19.080 Man's coming see his money man too, fanning y'all ear. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.560 Them out there, man, you know. The thing I love 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.440 about it, man, is that this is almost like man, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.760 it's one of them things man, to where y'all motivating 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.520 a whole bunch of other people. You you know what 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:34.360