1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Revere Revere Dalks. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Look at this now. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 3: Tip to Tim. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: This is our life, this is our passion. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: Bring to this show. 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,799 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell. 9 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's hump day. It's Wednesday. 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Go hump something, but make sure you do it normally 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: and consentially. Hi everyone, it's Morning Combat. We're here to 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: hump you. I guess I don't even know. We might 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: even hump each other. It's that kind of show. What's up. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm nearly one half of your hosting duo. I join 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: you from the Capitol of Astata Sunitos. It's Morning Combat. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas, and there is my, uh my partner 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: in humping. It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell. 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: Hey tooey, Yeah, let's let's let's yeah. Indeed, Hey, great 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: to see Luke. You now attracting sponsors that can help 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: hide your search history from not just your family but 21 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: the world at large. So very happy to welcome Pia 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: on board. 23 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Yes, you know what, I need something to help disguise 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: my absolutely sick and twisted habits, so that they're on 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: board to help me do that. Hi. Everyone, Wednesday show 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: for you. Today, we're gonna play a little over under. 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna react to some of the news that's out there, 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: related to Connor, related to some Lauren Murphy, related to 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: some Slap League. I think, by the way, BCE, am 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: I wrong. I believe episode two of Slap Dick League 31 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: is tonight and we don't have that right. 32 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: Oh, they're having them back on TBS. 33 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: That's yeah, it's not automatic cancer. It wasn't the Discovery 34 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: Channel pulling the plug on the Fighters after one episode. 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: But I think it is tonight. I'll have to double 36 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: check that. I'll double check. But anyway, well, we got 37 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: some news about that we'll react to, and a whole 38 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: bunch more so thumbs up on the video. If you're watching, 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: please hit subscribe. Let's see what I'll stay good stuff. 40 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: You can email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot 41 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: com as always. And yeah, how about some Showtime Showtime 42 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: dot com three to day free trials? Right, you can 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: like it, you can keep it. If not, you can 44 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: go do something else with your life. That's the deal, right, 45 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: But it's free ninety nine for at least a little while, 46 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: So go check that out. All So, I want to 47 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: remind folks, hey, Dan Hardy's going to join us February eighth, 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: live in the UK. We're going to be in London, 49 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: England at King's Place. You can get your tickets still. 50 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: It's the last leg of tickets. That's where we're at. 51 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: That's our update. It's the last leg basically, right, PC. 52 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: And say, I don't look we you were online fighting 53 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: with some of our fans over you know, are we 54 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: going to announce another big name as a guest. We're 55 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: still we're still in the process of locking all that down, 56 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: but it's coming and you know, I don't know how 57 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: people can be that disappointed. The outlaw Dan Hardy could 58 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: headline this show alone. Luke can't wait to hang out 59 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: with him, talk some shop with him, other special guests 60 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: to come, not just in the live show, but the 61 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: whole couple of day trip that we're going to be there. 62 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: It's going to be a special time, for one time 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: only MK in the UK. I'm not sure they'll let 64 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: me back over the pond after this. I might get 65 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: Appleton to Luke, but either way, it's going to be 66 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: a fun one time. Get your tickets still, miss this okay, 67 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: you you know you live in one of those places, right, Scotland, 68 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: the Jordie Shore, you know, Cardiff, Wales, And you're like, man, 69 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: this is my show. This is the only time they're 70 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: going to be there. How am I going to get there? 71 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: Just get there, all right? 72 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Just get there, get there, just go, just find a way. 73 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't arguing with all the fans. I was arguing 74 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: with one fan who was like, the announcement for the 75 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: UK was top three disappointing announcements in MK history. And 76 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Jesus, I'd love to know what the 77 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: other two were. But more to the point, more to 78 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: the point, it's like you have no idea what you're 79 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: talking about, like that you don't understand there might be 80 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: value beyond just the London show. I get, but maybe 81 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: have a little bit of humility to recognize that, like, 82 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: there are larger forces at play here that I think 83 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: could it is this? Depending how things go, pay dividends 84 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of different folks. Please be serious, come 85 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: on now, lord very. 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: As Triple G would say, are serious? Are serious? Right now? Max? 87 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: Are serious? 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: All right? But see I believe that's it for things 89 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: off the break right, So with that in mind, let's 90 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: get to our first topic. What else would it be? 91 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: What else would it be other than the biggest start 92 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: in MMA still somehow hasn't fought forever, And that's still 93 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: that guy Connor McGregor. So there was an incident about 94 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: six months ago that we knew Connor was at least 95 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: allegedly involved in. But then the person who was the 96 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: victim in the case either recanted her story or changed 97 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: it such that the police didn't go after Connor. But 98 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: then she has I guess, changed her story or depending 99 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: on how you want to look at it, now you're 100 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: getting the honest version because the story is weird. So 101 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Mmamania was the one who first caught wind of this 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: althether they're not the original one to report it. Basically, 103 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: here's the allegation BC. The allegations that McGregor and a 104 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: woman who he had recognized from like home, he was 105 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: on some yacht in the Abiza area outside of Spain 106 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: or in Spain anyway, Spain waters and he they initially 107 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: interacted amicably, He invited her on to his yacht, whatever 108 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: yacht he was on, and then at some point later, 109 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: for reasons that remained unclear, he allegedly became violent. He 110 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: is accused of kicking the woman in her stomach, punching 111 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: her in the chin, and then threatening I'm going to 112 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: drown you. Who do you think you are? It's left 113 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: off on the notes here, but it should be noted 114 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: that also she jumped off the ship and was rescued 115 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I believe by the Red Cross or the Coastguard, some 116 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, very important agency dealing with a 117 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: very serious situation. That part, to me is like, why 118 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: did this person flee a yacht and then have to 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: be rescued from the whole thing. It's all kind of weird. 120 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: McGregor's lawyer issued a statement BC quote, mister McGregor is 121 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: steadfast and his denial of all the accusations made by 122 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: a guest on his boat. So that confirms by the 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: way she was on the boat. And then Kavanaugh John 124 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Kavanaugh sent to Ariel apparently on Connor's return. We'll talk 125 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: about that in just a second, BC. The details are 126 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: not great. He was initially not part of it. Now 127 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: it apparently appears to be. He is back in contention 128 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: for having committed this crime, with both I think civil 129 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: and criminal penalties at least possible. Your reaction to this news. 130 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean, obviously, first and foremost, you know, 131 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: unlike some of the other recent headlines we've seen in 132 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: combat sports with people stepping outside of the boundaries of 133 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: the law or good taste, we don't have video to 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: confirm this, so you know, I'm sure there would end 135 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: up be in some form of a trial where Connor 136 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: is innocent and until proven guilty. But my reaction in 137 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: general is unfortunately, you know, hate to bring humor into this, 138 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: but Nat Diaz, I'm not surprised mother effort because of 139 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: the way Connor McGregor has conducted himself publicly, particularly since 140 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: the third Dustin Poier fight in the summer of twenty 141 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: twenty one, which was the last time we've seen him 142 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: in his actual day job. You know, it's hard, Luke, 143 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: especially someone of Connor's stature, of all the business connections 144 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: he has, it's hard to say, okay until you're actually 145 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: ready to come back and fight again, just stay away 146 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: for a while, just stay off social media, Just do 147 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 2: your thing, you know what I mean. If you gotta 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: make a commercial, do that. If you gotta speak somewhere publicly, 149 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: do that. But outside of that, just stay away. And 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: I say that because every time he's come up for 151 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: air since then, it seemingly has has led to conversations 152 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 2: like this. Now, these accusations are much much more damning 153 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: and serious than him just putting out a video just 154 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: talking shit. But I'm just saying in general, it's like, 155 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: day by day of the amount of time that he's 156 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: been away from the cage, the overall anticipation of his 157 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: return mixed with how good I actually think he'll still 158 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: potentially be, mixed with you know, any kind of confidence 159 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: I have that his mind is where it should be. 160 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: Overall you know is going in the other direction day 161 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: by day, and you know, none of that stuff is 162 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: actually related per se to this because these are serious 163 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: allegations in his personal time. But I know a lot 164 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: of people are getting sick of this every couple months 165 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: where we do the whole Hey man, So when do 166 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: you think he's coming back? And against too, because when 167 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: you start adding you know, the allegations here and incidents 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: like this, it continues to go down the poor taste 169 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: side of it, where you know, I don't know where 170 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: he's at Luke mentally or physically, aside from knowing that 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: you know, this has been a lengthy recovery from the 172 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: very serious leg injury had and then that was probably 173 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 2: delayed even further by some of those opportunities outside the cage, 174 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: which included a starring role in the Roadhouse remake of 175 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: some form. But you know, I don't know the facts 176 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: in this case, but unfortunately, I'm not surprised that there's 177 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: another sort of public scandal going against him because it 178 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: seems to be the free wheeling life he lives, you know, 179 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: outside of his day job, and I don't think of 180 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: that life, especially since coming to full on prominence and 181 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: stardom has helped matters in the cage in terms of 182 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: staying prepared, staying mentally focused. And now we've got another 183 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: situation he's got to deal with here, Luke, I mean, 184 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: what do you what are you gonna say? Unfortunate at best? 185 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: Right, let me read some additional details here BC. The 186 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: woman says she escaped then did jump from the yacht 187 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: to flee the attack. She was in fact picked up 188 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: excuse me, by a Red Cross boat for the report. 189 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: She initially told rescuers that McGregor was her attacker and 190 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: that lifeguard saw McGregor on the boat and identified him. 191 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: When she later met with authority, she told him that 192 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't gregor who attacked her, and then she didn't 193 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: file a formal complaint at that time. For the report, 194 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: she said that she was in shock and only wearing 195 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: a bikini while she spoke with authorities, and that she 196 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: prioritized leaving and going to a hotel to make plans 197 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: to return home to Ireland. According to the report, she 198 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: filed a formal complaint named McGregor after she did in 199 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: fact return to Dublin, BC. So let's go through this. 200 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: There's this one. There's punching the old man in the 201 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: dome right in that bar, So that's two. So then there's. 202 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: Knocking the cell phone out of the guy's hand and 203 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: stepping on it. In Miami, there's chucking the dolly at 204 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: the bus. 205 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: That's four. How about the guy in Dublin who he 206 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: played the knockout game with? You may I remember this, 207 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: but he was accused of knocking out some kind of 208 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: gangster in an Irish bar. I think about a year 209 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: or two, maybe a little bit more than that ago. 210 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: That'd be five incidents not named this one. God knows 211 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: what else. Oh, how about jumping in the bellator cage. 212 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: That'd be six dude. I mean, this is who he is. Now. 213 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not saying he's done what's been 214 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: accused here that remains to be seen. But in general, 215 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: he's a guy. Oh how about trying to fight machine 216 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: gun Kelly on the red carpet. We can go back 217 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: to that. Oh right, This is a guy who believes 218 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: he should be able to hit whoever he wants, whenever 219 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: he wants. And I think there's a lot of people 220 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: in the sport who agreed that violence is some kind 221 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: of adjudicator of dispute. These are largely, and not exclusively, 222 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: but these are largely people with extremely uncivilized ideas that 223 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: are not fit for the modern world. I don't know 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: how else to put it. And you see, I'll just say, like, 225 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: is twenty twenty three the year where like Mma Fighters 226 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: became Ty Cobb? You know what I mean by that? 227 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: Why Ty Cobb was an amazing baseball I'm not saying that, 228 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm asking the question, I'm not declaring it, But like 229 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Ty Cobb was this guy who was a great baseball player, 230 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: who was kind of like a dirt bag in his 231 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: real life and also like in the game himself, like 232 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, with certain kind of cleats he would wear 233 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: and how he would slide whatever. But he was like 234 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: a hard nosed, you know kind of guy. And obviously, 235 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: look there's wonder Boy Thompson's and there's a lot you know, 236 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: Matt Brown's an amazing guy in amazing fight. There's lots 237 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: of them. It's actually the minority. They're very much the minority. 238 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: But it's like, I don't know, like all of a sudden, 239 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: it seemed like in twenty twenty three, maybe the this 240 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: is a better way to put it, seems like in 241 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, the floodgates open with everyone discovering there's 242 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: just lots of like either in private life, people just 243 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: doing outrageous shit in this industry and there's nothing no 244 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: one's ever wants to do anything about it. 245 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think right now, any incident you're 246 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: gonna have is just gonna be thrown right at the 247 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: TV screen and see like see mma is you know 248 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: a flaming shithole because of the continuation of a lot 249 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: of things that are going on from you know, poor 250 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: fighter treatment across the board. But as you mentioned McGregor 251 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: does have a history of this, and to be fair, 252 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: I mean combat sports in general, I mean the NFL. 253 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: I mean, look, there is a history of big name 254 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: athletes getting a lot of money and making very you know, 255 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: poor and stupid decisions. Is it all bubbling over at 256 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: the moment for MMA. I mean, I don't think this 257 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: is necessarily related to those other things. But here's what's 258 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: what's weird. Look, I mean, this is consistent this allegation 259 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: of some of the behavior as we mentioned, although we 260 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: don't know the reality of this situation, but it's been 261 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: nineteen months since Connor fault and now you know, we're 262 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: coming up on two years now, and you know there's 263 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 2: been giant gaps before that. Of course, everything changed when 264 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: he knocked out at ey Alvarez, right like everything that's 265 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: the end of phase one of his career, and that 266 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: was the beginning of phase two. But Luke, it's weird, man, 267 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: every single day I mentioned it since then, I feel 268 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 2: like people care less and less like I feel like 269 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: the general consensus right now, even though I agree that 270 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: McGregor back in any form against any opponent, is a 271 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: monster event will take over the crossover headlines will be 272 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: a big deal. I don't think I've ever seen a 273 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: time where people care less though, in general about McGregor. 274 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: And it's not just hey, BC and Luke wake up. 275 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: We hate him in Ireland, in the UK in general, 276 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: and that's you know, the opinion across the board, and 277 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: you Americans are the last to realize it. Yeah, there's 278 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of that, but I mean, look, there's 279 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: not even the belief anymore, even in the old school magic, 280 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, mystic you know, the old school guys who 281 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: will believe and I was one of these at certain 282 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: points that McGregor a focus McGregor can do anything right. 283 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean there's I don't even think there's any of 284 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: them left anymore. It's unfortunate. It really is a second 285 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: half of miss career, outside of the money he's been 286 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: able to make in the stardom, is largely unfortunate when 287 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: you consider the missteps, the performances inside the cage, the 288 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: constant things just like this outside of it that. I 289 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: don't think this is necessarily in line with Hey, combat 290 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: sports and NIME particular is a dirty ass puddle. I mean, 291 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: we already knew that, but dude, I think it's even 292 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: bigger story on the whole about Connor himself. It's like, look, 293 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: are we going to look back and really summarize his 294 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: life and the public eye as as for a point, 295 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: you know, it's still to this day, as you mentioned, 296 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: the most popular athlete in combat sports, but for a 297 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: for a season there on a pump for pound level, 298 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: on an accomplishment level, you know, one of the best 299 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: runs we'd ever seen through twenty fifteen and sixteen. Dude, 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: there are legitimately two There's the before and after of 301 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: this guy, you know what I mean in terms of 302 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: taking all the time off fighting Mayweather, getting all that money, 303 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 2: launching all these business ventures and really not just it's 304 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: almost Oscar de la Hoya like in box. It's not 305 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: apples to apples, but it's the idea that like, this 306 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: guy comes up with a lot of noise behind him, 307 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: wins all these big fights, does all these big things, 308 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: but then the second half of that career is just 309 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: hit or missed. You know, a lot of more missed 310 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: opportunities than accomplished ones. I mean, we're not that's not 311 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: just a trend. We're there. Do you care about that? 312 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: All? 313 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 2: Luke? I mean, here is a guy who you know, 314 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: he was always fighting the battle of people, you know, 315 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: thinking he's overrated, and once he finally meets this type 316 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: of opponent, we'll find out. Once he made all that money, 317 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: everything changed. And that's the facts I'm looking on his career, 318 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: in his arc. 319 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. For me, I just think of 320 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: it a little bit differently. Now. There are times when 321 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: he I mean, let's be real, like when he was 322 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: making his to your point, like maybe the most incredible 323 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: run in MMA in terms of just going from zero 324 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: to sixty, right, like who made the fastest most incredible 325 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: meteorc rise Connor McGregor has a claim to that, if not, 326 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: like very clearly is that guy got by virtue of 327 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: how far he went and how fast he did it, 328 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: culminating with the Eddie Alvarez when at UFC two five, 329 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: but BC, even though he was antagonizing a lot of people, 330 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: even though he was pissing off a lot of people 331 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: at that time based on his antics, dude, there was 332 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: some there was buzz about it. There was like, honestly, 333 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: in retrospect, wouldn't you say that through the Alvarez fight, 334 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: especially remember he showed up to the press commerce with 335 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: that big coat and like suck my big Irish balls 336 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: and all this. It was kind of fun. It was 337 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of like it was a party. It was a 338 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: roving party that just kind of never stopped. And some 339 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: people were invited to the party and some people weren't, 340 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: But it was a party. Man. It was crazy, Like, 341 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: what about everything that's going on now is fun? Now? 342 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: Obviously his injury is not fun, and there's nothing he 343 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: can do about that other than rehab and in the 344 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: sort of quiet way that he has, like there's some 345 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: of this is just very much out of his control 346 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: in that way. But with this kind of stuff where 347 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: these headlines are happening in the way that they're happening, 348 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: and then the absence on top of it, like who 349 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: in the McGregor orbit fan or otherwise is having fun 350 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: with any of this, It just seems like it's everything 351 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: that made what was magical, everything that was a component there, 352 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: none of those are in play. And now, of course 353 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: he's still not out of the running for some kind 354 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: of potential comeback or you and I have been on 355 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: the record as saying we probably think he has one 356 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: more big win left in him. You see, I might 357 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: start questioning that. I mean, that's a lot early to 358 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: do that, But I'm just saying, I just thinking about it, 359 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: like I don't know, I don't really know what this 360 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: dude's future has never been this uncertain. 361 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: And Dude, you can go back either in stuff I've 362 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: said on the air, in different podcasts or conversations I've 363 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: had with other media members. I've always been that guy. 364 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: It's like, no, no man can he can pull it back. 365 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 2: If anybody can pull it back together, it's this guy. 366 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: You know, count him out at your own peril. You know, 367 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: I picked him to be the bebe as laughable in 368 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: hindsight as that now feels, even though let's be fair, 369 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: he did seem to have a better performance than a 370 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: lot of his contemporaries against a Beibe, although still got 371 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: dominated and lost. But yeah, Luke, I'm even at that 372 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: point now where it's like I have almost zero confidence 373 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: that when he comes back, anything can good can happen 374 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: outside of him being matched in another cowboy like comeback, 375 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: which you know, I guess we should have some level 376 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: of that discussion art in the comeback, because look, if 377 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: I asked you when he hurt his when he broke 378 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: his leg against Poier and he you know, sat in 379 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: the cage still making fun of Poier's wife, Joe Rogan, 380 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: Squat and Dominan. It was a moment for good and 381 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: bad reasons, mostly bad. You never would have guessed that 382 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: nineteen months later, we haven't made much progress right outside 383 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: of his you know, recovery, which is important. But like, dude, 384 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: like it's not even like like we're not We didn't 385 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: even start the new year talking about, well, hey, guys, 386 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: you know this could be a big year because Connor 387 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: will be back probably in name that month. Dude, that's 388 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: not even a conversation. So you know, what the hell 389 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: is going on, Luke? Is there is there a dog 390 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 2: left in him? You know? Part of a big part 391 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: of what made the magic and that incredible run so 392 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: special was not just the outrageous self belief, but like 393 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: he had a focus, a goal, a plan always. You know, 394 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: there was there was Muhammad al Li comparisons at certain points, 395 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: just on the ability to like pick out a task 396 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: and go accomplish it against all you know that that 397 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: guy's not in there anymore. So who is in there? 398 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: Luke? 399 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: If these allegations are true, it's certainly a damaged, privileged 400 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: person who's who's consistently got a lot to sweep up 401 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: in his personal life. Don't know if it's true in 402 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: this case, they'll have to hold judgment to a certain degree. 403 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: But like, what is like, how different in your eyes 404 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: is the man, the fighter, the person that has to 405 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: get up and train, you know, from where he was 406 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: before the Eddie Alvarez fight, because well, it's changed a lot. 407 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: He's had moments, he's had little sparks and moments since 408 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: that point, but nothing sustained. Dude, I don't know if 409 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: that guy's in there anymore in any form. 410 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah. I mean there's sort of two things. It's 411 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: like once you get like past thirty. I've said this 412 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: with John Jones, like once I forgive a lot up 413 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to the age of thirty ish, once you get past 414 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: thirty and you're still doing like again allegedly allegedly, you know, 415 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: criminal acts like this. I mean, you know, I doubt 416 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: that I would forgive it in the twenties. But like, 417 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: I've just seen a lot of guys who are just 418 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: disasters in their twenties figuring out out in their thirties, 419 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: like sort of waiting for them to get right is 420 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: a thing that does happen, and I've witnessed it. You know, 421 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: I don't really know. Now Again, I want to say 422 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: this in his defense, not related to this particular incident, 423 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: but more broadly, at the stage in which he finds 424 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: himself in his career, he took some additional time to 425 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: probably heal better as well as whatever he has to 426 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: do to get back into the you saw it a 427 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: testing pool and clear out his system or whatever has 428 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: to go into that, plus this movie and blah blah blah. Also, 429 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: I've seen training footage BC of his rehab and whatnot. 430 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: It's pretty serious rehab. Like it's not it's not BS rehab. 431 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: It's very sport specific, it's very functional specific. It's very 432 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: related to sport performance. And it does appear like he's 433 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: put in a tremendous amount of work into it. So like, again, 434 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, does he have a one more big win 435 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: left in And I guess we will see. I don't 436 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: really know the answer, but I wouldn't write him off, 437 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: but I think to the point you raise, like, it 438 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: just feels like everything we understood him to be has 439 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: been or was just a function of that moment in time. 440 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: Not actually an enduring characteristic of like the kind of 441 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: guy that he can be, or as a as an 442 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: athlete anyway, Like those things seem to be very much 443 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: locked into that moment in time, and it's when you 444 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: combine it with the whatever the hell is happening outside 445 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: of the cage, it's not really disconcerting. Here's the other 446 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: part too, b See, we haven't even really talked about it, 447 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: Like and you know, we knew before Dana White got 448 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: into his issues that nothing was gonna happen to Connor, 449 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: especially since this is all alleged and there's nothing there's 450 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: no criminal act associated. But like BC, he could be 451 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: charged today, and we both know you are saying, I'm 452 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: going to do a thing about it. 453 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: No, there's a precedent there. You want precedent, there's precedence there. 454 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: Whatever is it precedent or dentse Luke, what am I 455 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 2: doing here? 456 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: Grammar president, Well, the the singular would be precedent, and 457 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: so precedents would be like with an S on the end, 458 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: would be many of them. I don't know if precedence 459 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: is a double check that's a word. 460 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, precedents of America. Yeah, that was a POS band 461 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: the po Uh you know I'm talking about you know, 462 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: the Peaches band. They suck. 463 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: It's lump. It's lump. 464 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 2: Anytime I hear people talk nineties rock and they're like, man, 465 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: I love the Presidents. I'm like, and we're done. That's 466 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: the end of this conversation. That's the wall. I won't 467 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: climb along with you. Yeah, Luke, I don't even know 468 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: where we were right there. Oh precedents. Yeah, there's no 469 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: nothing's gonna happen to him that that's the precedence that 470 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: data has handed down. And look, you can argue Luke 471 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: to a certain level in general, like you know, that's 472 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: a decision, but it's a decision to let the legal 473 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 2: system in general deal with it, which is again why 474 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 2: we went so hard against Dana for having, you know, 475 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: for being able to just step off personally aside from 476 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: that process, you know what I mean, like like there's 477 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: no oversight. But in general, look, if that's the way 478 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: that the company consistently wants to go, I don't think 479 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: that's the safe and smartest way. I don't think you know, 480 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: somebody like John Jones can just continually, you know, cross 481 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: up the law and it's just sort of like fine, 482 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, same thing with Connor and 483 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: the Dolly incident, and obviously Luke in general, same thing 484 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: with anybody we're we're talking about Germonte Davis headlining Showtime 485 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: pay per view cards. You know, it gets to a 486 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: certain level where you do have to say, like, are 487 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: we enabling this activity? Now? This incident is for Connor, 488 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: is you know, separate from the others, but it is 489 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: a continuation, So no, nothing's gonna happen Luke to him 490 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: and I enjoy Dude, I can't believe nothing happened off 491 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: the Dolly thing. Why do I feel like I'm the 492 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: only person in MMA who thinks that's wild and thinks 493 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 2: it was a you know what I mean, Like, dude, 494 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: he it's not even like he attacked a guy only 495 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: to play up a big fight, which it worked out 496 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: perfectly for UFC. But it's like he actually attacked co workers, 497 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it actually like it's 498 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: it's just yeah, and actually took people out of fights, 499 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: took ray Borg out of that fight, and and you know, 500 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: and as we said, just settled his lawsuit in December 501 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: for that as well. And you know, Rose almost not 502 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: jumped out of that fight. I mean it, almost every. 503 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Time there's been a test that, like from an ethical standpoint, 504 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: like the industry could have passed, it doesn't. It doesn't pass. Yeah, Yeah, 505 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: you're right. That's the one thing you keep coming back to. It. 506 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: It just without the law compelling actors in the space 507 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: to do it, it just continuously fails these tests over 508 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: and over and over again. 509 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: All right, So now the inevitable Luke, you want to 510 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: read the comments from John kevinall talking to. 511 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: Ariel about how much to say about I'm not going 512 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: to read the whole thing we see. I want to 513 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: move the show along, but basically, if you have a reaction, 514 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: love to hear it. He says he is very very confident, quote, 515 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: very very confident. We'll see Connor back in the octagon 516 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: this year. Doesn't say against two, it doesn't say exactly when, 517 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: but just that things are in motion. Yay, all right. 518 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: I have two quick questions for you on that one, 519 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 2: the demeanor and what he's selling when he does come back. 520 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: Why I asked that is against Cowboy. There was a 521 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: refreshing level of not only oh wow, Connor seems to 522 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: really be taking this comeback seriously, and I think in hindsight, 523 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: we were robbed with COVID and everything going on where 524 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: he fought Cowboy was supposed to be fighting three times 525 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 2: that year and it just never happened. Right. But when 526 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: he came back, dude, he was so complimentary, he was humble. 527 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 2: It was almost like, Wow, whether calculated or not, this 528 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: is like a babyface turn that made. 529 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's because he was welcomed back by the 530 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: industry in a sense, even though he had those rape 531 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: allegations that were made or sexual assault, I should say, 532 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: whatever it was. 533 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: Since then, it's been almost exclusively negative, including the way 534 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: he you know, was rabid against Poorier in both fights and. 535 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: How do and he got sued by his longtime stablemate 536 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: Artam Lobob Like, there's lots of things that have crumbled. 537 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: I think he'll come back, probably closer to the third 538 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: quari A fight, much less so the Cowboy fight. Probably 539 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of a mix between them, because of 540 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: course Connor is very famous. He is very well liked 541 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: by a portion of the fan base, so you'll see 542 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: some of that. But I expected to be He's he's 543 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: like antagonistic on social media a lot these days, and 544 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: I think it'll go in that direction. 545 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: Is he still in a position where versus anyone, dude, 546 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm talking like Diego Sanchez versus anyone, it's a million 547 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: pay per view buys at this point. 548 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: Still not in his return, Not in his return. I 549 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: could see a dynamic return setting up something, you know. 550 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: I think he's got one no questions asked return left 551 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: where everyone comes out for it. So I'm almost inverted 552 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: on your analysis. But I think the performance he's got 553 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: to deliver to keep this train going. 554 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that's about right. I think that's about right. 555 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: And also I don't think he's got much interest in 556 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: fighting much longer anyway. 557 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: Right, all right, final final question here, I want to know, Luke, 558 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: who you want? Who's who opponent right now? Today? Makes 559 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: the most sense if they announce this for you know June. 560 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, fair enough. There's not a lot of wrong answers. 561 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm not there's a lot of people who love to 562 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: play the matchmaking game and for all the nuances and 563 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: never really been that guy. Obviously. The name that Dave 564 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: attached to him is Michael Chandler. I think that's a 565 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: great fight. I think it tells you a lot about both. 566 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: As you know Michael Chandler's weaknesses and strengths at this point, 567 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: can Connor take advantage of them or not, and it'll 568 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: be action packed the whole time. It'll be meaningful in 569 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: all likelihood, and you won't get some of the overall 570 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: ugliness that you'd get with like another fight with Proiri, 571 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: for example. It'll be somewhat toned down from or you 572 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: might even get vintage Connor in terms of the press conference. 573 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm fine with that all right. 574 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: I think I think it's better for the promotion to 575 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: try to make him that babyface version again, try to 576 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: make people want to cheer for the comeback, like want 577 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: to see him, despite everything he's been through and done 578 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 2: to himself, turn it around. So I think there's one 579 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: opponent that produces that. Luke, you gotta you gotta find 580 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: a villain. I think that villain is Patty pimblet here. 581 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: I think that's the fight. I think it does just 582 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: as good. I think it does just as good as 583 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: any of your other creations. It gives Connor in theory 584 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: a better chance to win, and I think he comes 585 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 2: in as the guy people are cheering for, especially after 586 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: Pimblet's performance last time. That's how you. 587 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 1: Book the territory. 588 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: That's how you do it. That's how you you know 589 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: what I mean. Put me in the chair, you know 590 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Put me in the damn give me 591 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: the pens. 592 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: Give me the book of all the names you could 593 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: have picked. That was I mean, no, I'm just not 594 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: interested in that. Not all right, Let's go something I'm 595 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: also not interested in, but we're going to talk about it. 596 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: Just the same topic. Number two, how about power slap. 597 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: There is a little bit more of the news. I'll 598 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: double check to see if there's another rep today. Whatever 599 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: it is. We have two pieces of information I want 600 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: to share with you BC. I'm going to go in 601 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: separate order from what we have in the Rundown'd like 602 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: to show you mine first. So I follow Eric Spiceley 603 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter. He's a UFC veteran, actually has a winner 604 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: for Thiago Santos if you can believe it, back in 605 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the day. Hasn't really fought in the UFC in some time, 606 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not even sure he's fought in ma in sometime, 607 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: but he tweeted something kind of interesting that he was 608 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: contacted basically by the Power Slap League to see if 609 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: he wanted to participate, and someone he was like, you'd 610 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: be shocked about how much it pays. And then what 611 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: he said was first fight was two K, two K. 612 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: So I shot up a DM and I'm like, are 613 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: you sure this was Danil White's Power League Power Slap League? 614 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: And it was. He showed me some evidence from some 615 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: text messages that he had received from the people who 616 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: were booking the show, and I got to take a 617 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: look at him. Sure enough it was them. Now. He 618 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: later clarified to Steven Morocco of MMA Fighting that that 619 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: was for just that bout, Like I guess, I guess 620 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: the show would be booked for three so the pay 621 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: would somehow for a full day of all of the 622 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: fights come out to something around give or take ten 623 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: K something like that. But for the first one, two 624 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: and two B see your reaction to the pay scale. 625 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's here's two words for you, Luke, fucking ridiculous. 626 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: And it's like not that I think, you know, these 627 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: athletes should be paid a ton for what this is, 628 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: which is just barbaric comedy, but it's not funny at 629 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: the end of the day, Like it's it's absurd and 630 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: it's stupid, and it's just violence for the sake of it. 631 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: But you know, because it's just violence for the sake 632 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: of it and you can't even bring defense into it. Yeah, 633 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: I almost feel like they should be paid more, but 634 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: then you know, a lot more. Right, But then uf 635 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: she's got a problem. What are you going to over know, 636 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: overpay your power slappers in comparison to your actual fighters 637 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: that you're underpaying. Look, here's the greater here's the best 638 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: way I can say this of what a of what 639 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 2: a hypocritical decision this was to put to try to 640 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: put this out as UFC owners and and like we mentioned, 641 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: using the UFC promotional vehicle to do that, uh is 642 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: this is the equivalent of if UFC was so vocal 643 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: about women's rights. Let's say, you know, because to be fair, 644 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, they they capitalized on what was going on 645 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: in Strikeforce with Toronto and Cyborg and Rousey and built 646 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: a women's division around that. And you know, you look 647 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: back and you go good on UFC, Right, Like, there's 648 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: been some some good. But imagine if they were like 649 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: big proponents of women's rights and all of that, and 650 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: you know, actively did that. And then they also instead 651 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: of power slap launched like their own porn company, you 652 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean, like it just you know, and 653 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: just like and just and the rumors were that, you know, 654 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: that they're getting into the sex trade and that things 655 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: aren't looking good. That's that's the that's the exact same 656 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: message that I feel like this whole thing sends to 657 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: the fighters and you know all this, we do all 658 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: these things to protect their safety, but you know, in 659 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: our other vehicle, we're going to promote this absolute bullshit, 660 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: Like it just disgusted me. I'm I'm shocked that this 661 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: is going to go to a second episode. I really am. 662 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: I like, could you have a more toxic product at 663 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: the moment? And for every possible reason, obviously, the Dana 664 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: White New Year's Eve think takes it to a new level. 665 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: But I don't you know, I love that, Like I said, 666 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: I love that more fighters are actually tweeting about this, 667 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: a couple of them that they're just like, what the hell, 668 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 2: you know, this isn't a sport, what the hell are 669 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: we doing here? But like this is the true character 670 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: of Dana White, of the Fertitas who back this financially 671 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: and maybe even you know Arian Endeavor, you know what 672 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: I mean, Like, this is the character that they're showing 673 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: by being affiliated with this. So what do I find out? 674 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,479 Speaker 2: What do I think when I see on top of that, 675 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: oh yeah, we're offering two and two for you to take. 676 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: I mean, look, look, look did you see that video 677 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: I tweeted out from Chris Norinsky if I said his 678 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: last name correctly, the former w W Rustler, who now 679 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, heads up all that research for brain health. 680 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: You know, like he's telling you in in the highlights 681 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: from the first episode that right there, you see the 682 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: way that guy fell right there, Like that's permanent brain 683 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: damage right there, you know what I mean? And like 684 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: so to two and two, yeah, seems about right, UFC right, 685 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: seems about right, Dana. That's how you do That's how 686 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: That's how you do things. That's how you do things. 687 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: It's been monstrously successful, but that's how you do things. 688 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: And I feel like, finally, not as the not only 689 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: is the curtain being pulled back, and sometimes it's only 690 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: being pulled back because of like the Jonas Nashes and 691 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: the people that you know, the guy from MMA, you know, 692 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: MMA Analytics. There who's just going ham on a lot 693 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 2: of these inside things. Some of us that were smarter 694 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: already knew a lot of this stuff, but to see 695 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: it all just kind of be on earth at the 696 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: same time. And then you have this giant, you know 697 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: thing that we're all worshiping here, this this power slap 698 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: league that you're putting out there. It's like they are 699 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: telling you exactly who the fuck they are. And they're 700 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: grimy and gross as shit. So two thousand and two 701 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: thousand to win. Yeah, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised 702 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: at all. And uh. 703 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Man, yeah, I mean listen, listen, they were never the 704 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: whole they were never going to they were never going 705 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,239 Speaker 1: think about the vehicle that they're using here. Right, it's 706 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: a television show. You need to be able to make 707 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: affordable TV. Like for folks who may not know, I 708 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: mean everyone knows this, but like we BC and I 709 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: have worked at the fringes of TV. We've had a 710 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: little bit of TV work. And here's one thing BC 711 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: and I can definitely tell you, even just being on 712 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: the you know, the the small TV gigs that we've 713 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: had over the years. Although your showbox gig is quite nice, BC. 714 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm about to say is true. 715 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, listen, Budgets can dictate a lot. But there 716 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: are going to be people, especially around reality programming, They're 717 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna want to make that programming as cheap as they can, right. 718 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: That's that's a big cell to the network, a big 719 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: cell to the networks. How much is it gonna cost 720 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: for me to make eight episodes of this? How much 721 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: is the actual budget? They were never going to do 722 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: slap fighting because it was expensive. They're gonna do it 723 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: because it's cheap. It's affordable TV. It's easy to get 724 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: these guys to sign because probably two K for slapping 725 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: or four K if you win, or whatever it ends 726 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: up being for the actual slapping side of it. I 727 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: have no idea what the industry pays. I'm gonna guess 728 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: that that's reasonably competitive with it. And by the way, 729 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: for people who compete on reality TV, two K or 730 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: ten k for a day, you know, is not necessarily 731 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: a small sum either. But this is the point. Brain 732 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: damage shouldn't be this cheap. Shouldn't be this cheap. Now. 733 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: Of course, on the regional scene or for up and 734 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: coming boxing, there's really nothing you can do. But when 735 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: you're around people that actually do have money, People who 736 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: do have money should not be able to buy brain 737 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: damage for cheap. It should be expensive. Right to me, 738 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: seems like a real basic way to examine whether or 739 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: not there's something that you're looking at is ethical. It's like, 740 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: are rich people paying for this at what it should 741 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: be or at some bargain basement version of it? And 742 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: if it's a bargain basement version of it, and you 743 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: can see there's obviously brain damage associated with when it 744 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: doesn't need to be, that's the only red flag that 745 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: you really need. This is very very cheap brain damage 746 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: that they can sell to networks as an overall cheap experience. 747 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: And that was partly the reason why ibce it may 748 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: not be canceled right away because it probably was not 749 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: very expensive to produce. So not paying these guys a lot, dude, 750 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: half the stuff whatever is at the ufc apex, they 751 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: don't have to pay for any of that. It's cheap 752 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: to produce. It's cheap, so all they have to do 753 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: is sell ads against it and they might be able 754 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: to make their money back on. 755 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I don't expect them. It's like, not only 756 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not surprised mother effort at at how 757 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: low it was based on what we already know. But yeah, 758 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 2: to your point on budgets, you couldn't expect it. It's 759 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: like this is It's like, Man, I hope, you know, 760 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: I hope someone I love doesn't get into the adult 761 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: film industry. Look, but if they do, I hope they 762 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: make a ton of money and maybe there is the 763 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: money to pay out in there and this Power Slap bullshit, 764 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: there's not. But the thing that gets me the most 765 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: upset about the news that you shared there on Twitter, 766 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 2: and it was one of the things when this thing 767 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: was first launched, we were like, oh man, please don't 768 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 2: tell me that this is going to be. You know, 769 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: UFC's way of looking at the combat sports market, seeing 770 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: the success that some UFC veterans when their time is 771 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: up physically have outside of it, whether it's BKFC for 772 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: a big paychecker boxing Jake Paul, and thinking oh well 773 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 2: I could I could jump in that market too. I 774 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: remember saying it when this was first conceived, if this 775 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: ends up being Diego Sanchez and you know, I insert 776 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: any other name showing up at the Power Slap League 777 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: because that's just where the biggest you know, the next 778 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 2: payday at the moment is here in retirement. I'm going 779 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: to throw up in my mouth and you know, and 780 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 2: and and smear all over the screen here Luca on 781 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 2: the TV, because are you telling me that they went 782 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: out of there? They're now recruiting spicily and x UFC fighters. 783 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: By the way, who had noteworthy brain trauma issues following 784 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: the end of his MMA career, certainly the end of 785 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: his UFC run. I mean, this is where it was, guy. 786 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: It wasn't even a guy who had like, you know, 787 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: not much damage shoes. They have like no, like documented 788 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: damage issues. 789 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: And it's hard, dude, I'm gonna be honest, it's hard 790 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: to take a big soapbox thing here in general when 791 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: we all are combat sports fanatic maniacs. We make a 792 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: living off and make a great living all that stuff, 793 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 2: and I get, you know, the difference is defense and 794 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: the differences there's a lot of differences, right, but even 795 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 2: that generic like, well, you guys are in this sport 796 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 2: that that's as we talk about, it's hard to deal 797 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: with on a regular basis too, the risks and the damage. 798 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: This is a sport in which it's it's it's enhanced 799 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: by the by the millions of the of the expected 800 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 2: damage that you're going to take. And now they're recruiting 801 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 2: their ex fighters who may bring in some level of 802 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 2: name value or toughness right to do the same thing. Look, 803 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 2: if it gets to this point where we're actually seeing 804 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 2: x UFC fighters show up on the show and you're 805 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: an active UFC fighter and you're not willing to go okay, 806 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: maybe this is finally the last straw in terms of 807 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 2: us interlocking arms. We don't need be on revenue necessarily, 808 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: but we may need to take a stand in terms 809 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: of our overall treatment together. Again, not the media's job, 810 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 2: but I feel like the media is the only one 811 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 2: that's talking about it because we're all just grossed out, Luke. 812 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: But I mean, is that the level you know what 813 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: I mean is that if you start seeing like Mark 814 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: Coleman coming out of retirement and getting in the Slap 815 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 2: League game, Luke, is that where the fighters should be 816 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: shown up outside the APEX with pickets, signs and trying 817 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: to be like like, look, enough is enough here. 818 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: Or more just realize like what you might be looking 819 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: at your future too. That's what I mean, just think 820 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: about how like if just think about that, if you're 821 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: actually trying to recruit previous fighters who may not have 822 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: competed in a while or whatever, I'm sure they would say, yeah, 823 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: they don't they don't want the opportunity to don't take it. 824 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: But what you're really trying to do is get them 825 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: for you know, a modest amount of money that they 826 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: might need when one never knows. So they're not making 827 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: an economically you know, impartial decision. They're making one that 828 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: could be a little bit more based out of necessity. 829 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: And then the whole idea is doing what you did 830 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: for showgun, feeding him to somebody new in this case, 831 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: feeding him to power slappers who might have some kind 832 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: of structural advantage, or just you know, from an industry standpoint, 833 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: have done this more, they're going to be better at it. 834 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: That seems to be reasonable conclusion. And now you can say, oh, 835 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: you got to beat a UFC fighter on on your resume, right, 836 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: it's like refeeding them to to get the other population 837 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: then spruced up and looked better at green Luke, it's 838 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,479 Speaker 1: grows business. We have one more people, Luke. 839 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: It's made out of people spoiler alert, great movie, right, 840 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 2: soil and Green all, that's what that's what this is becoming. 841 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have one more piecer. I didn't pull this. 842 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is, but I know. John 843 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: Morgan of Sports Illustrated previously I'm the Mad Junkie spoke 844 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: to Frank I believe his name is Lam Michella, who 845 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: is the It's actually a ZUFA attorney that they just 846 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: randomly turned into the head of Power Slap. He had 847 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: an interview with him. Let's let me hear some of this. 848 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: We'll react to it. 849 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know that that is this a sport? Uh, 850 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: conversation online has goes on with everything. 851 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: Right, is bowling a sports pool? Sport? 852 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 3: Is this is at the end of the day, you 853 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 3: have two athletes competing, Right, you talk to them, they 854 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 3: absolutely feel like it's a sport. 855 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: You don't. 856 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: They absolutely feel like they are training and working hard. 857 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: And you'll start seeing that in the episodes with the coaches, right, 858 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 3: they actually train technique, workout in the gym. So listen, 859 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 3: I think I think what you saw in episode one 860 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: was just the surface. 861 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: And what you'll can what you'll continue to see is. 862 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 3: Even more improvement in these athletes, and more improvement over 863 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: you know, the way the matches are run on the 864 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 3: no defense, I mean there's no evasive defense. 865 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: If your definition of. 866 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 3: Defense is only evasion, then that's obviously got some element 867 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 3: of truth to it. Or however, again talking to these guys, 868 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: there is definitely defense. There is training the head next 869 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 3: shoulder muscles, and our sports science and sports data that 870 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 3: we put out will start to support that. Learning how 871 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: tense to make the muscles, how tense to clench the jaw, 872 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 3: all of that matters. Learning to roll with the slap, 873 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 3: but not committing a flinching file. So there's really a 874 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 3: lot of time. 875 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: You know. 876 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 3: How how when do you close your eyes? 877 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: You know? 878 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 3: Do you leave your eyes open the whole time? 879 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: Do you know? 880 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: So there there are elements and then on the on 881 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 3: the striker side, you know, again back to the health 882 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: and safety point. Part of the rules were built to 883 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: limit force where we can, right, so the feet have 884 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: to stay ground that there's no stepping or pivoting. Watch 885 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: a boxer. 886 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: Everything is thrown with a pivot, right, There's okay, I 887 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: mean I've seen enough of this we can call it there. 888 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: This is BC we are at the point now where 889 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: we've got someone who went to law school, right right, 890 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: This is not a person who ever engaged in these 891 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: behaviors once, Like, I have a feeling that attorney Frank Lemachella, 892 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, didn't have a lifelong passion for slapping. He 893 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: was just hired by Zuova and then forced into this 894 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: role and he has to pretend that all of this 895 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: is real. And then we're at the point now, by 896 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: the way, which you know tells you you have every 897 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: right to be cynical about anyone in power's motives, but 898 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: just to put a bow on the whole thing. B See, 899 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: we're at the point now where we're like, should you 900 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: close your eyes or not? And this is supposed to 901 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: be constitutive of effective and important defense. Get the fuck 902 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: out of here, Frank, dude, are talking about, you know. 903 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 2: How every time a fighter and a combat sports gets 904 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: here's some harsh analysis again to them from a pundit 905 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: like us who don't have pro or amateur fights. And 906 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: you know, the knee jerk reaction is okay, you know, 907 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: but you don't know. And into a certain degree, there's 908 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: only some things we do and don't know because of 909 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: that I fully agree you've done actual training in some degree. 910 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: I've the minuscule boxing training, but enough to get a 911 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 2: taste of it, But no, I don't know the day 912 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 2: to day I usually think that's a bullshit take in 913 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: power slap though, if you want to look at that 914 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 2: guy's a video and say, you know, I can't listen 915 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: to that guy until I see him take one of 916 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 2: those power slaps, just like I feel like that should 917 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: be a prerequisite. If you're gonna make money off of this, Luke, 918 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: you should at least go in there and have to 919 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: have it done to you, and then we'll see if 920 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: you want to if you want to continue down here 921 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: describing as a sport. Look, I thought John Morgan was 922 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: with m Manderground. Is that linked with sports Illustry? 923 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they're connected, so a lot of his own 924 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: I say sports olso I'm not sure who he gets 925 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: credentialed through. But yes, he's with the ug sports olstry 926 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: because they have a partnership. 927 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: John did that interview, and I think our producers edited 928 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 2: out the question. I don't know John's take on this, 929 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: but he did for it up as like, hey, some 930 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 2: would say that this isn't a sport because there's no defense. 931 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 2: You know what is your thoughts on that? I don't 932 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 2: know where John stands on that. But have we had 933 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: a media member that has been like, you know, powers 934 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 2: slap's not that bad, Guys like you should probably check 935 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: it out. Has it happened yet or is it just 936 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 2: to think? 937 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: You know what? I think there were a couple before 938 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: Dana White had his controversy. Ye, they were like, Okay, 939 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I saw. I definitely saw, you know what, 940 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: which is fine, I understand this. If this is your 941 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: view pre Dana White's incident, I get it, which was 942 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna judge a book by 943 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: its cover. I'm at least gonna go see what it's 944 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: about and then I'll make a decision. Okay, I can 945 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: That's that's that's hard to get mad at someone for that. 946 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just doing due diligence. To me, it's 947 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, slightly gullible, but fine. I 948 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't die on that hill. But then after Dana White 949 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: had his thing, I just saw people being like kind 950 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: of repulsed by the whole thing. I can't She's not 951 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: exactly the same as having like a principal stance against 952 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: power slap more just being kind of grossed, but you 953 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: get the idea there it is. 954 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: Hey, enough this slaptick business. Let's get out of here, all. 955 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Right, BC. Let's talk about some fight news. Actually, let's 956 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: talk about some good news, because we got some here, 957 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: all right. How about this BC? We have to tweet 958 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: for this. This one was announced or at least I 959 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: think reported. Anyway. How about old song you dong taking 960 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: on Ricky Simon? Now, this one at bansamweight just looks incredible. 961 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Ricky Simon, by the way, BC, has anyone ever made 962 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: a joke about you dong and like using it as 963 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: the words your dong? Because I've never seen that before. 964 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: I was just trying to get through your pronunciation of simoon, Luke, 965 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 2: where are we going with this? What do we got here? 966 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: That's how you pronounce it? 967 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: If there if they're Ricky Simone right. 968 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: Yes, Simone Simon, yeah? Oh sim okay, Well, I guess 969 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: it would depend on where the accent is over the eye. 970 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter Ricky Simon, Simon whatever, uh, BC, he 971 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: makes a your dong joke because everyone does. But nevertheless, 972 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 1: as a fight whoa fun, fun action great fight. 973 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: Not great fight, great fight. And I love it too 974 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: because Ricky Simone has been turning that corner to a 975 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: certain degree of showing us that when he puts it 976 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: all together, when he matures and grows from some of 977 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: the setbacks, man, this guy could be a player in 978 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: this division. And this would be the kind of fight 979 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: that that he'd have to prove that to to certainly 980 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: make that leap into the upper core of content of 981 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 2: contention contenders ship overall. But dude, us, your dong's still 982 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 2: so young that I think we're all pretty confident he's 983 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 2: going to be very very good. Will he be great? Though, Luke, 984 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. You gotta win fights like this to 985 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 2: do it, so you're going to see action. But man, 986 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 2: you're gooually two hungry guys having to you know, prove 987 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: it all night, Luke, let's do this thing West. 988 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: Also, like both guys have really gotten better. But Simone, 989 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: to me, has really come a long way. He's really 990 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,719 Speaker 1: kind of just tightened up everything, and you know, he 991 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: still has a long way to go. He's far from 992 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: a finished product, but I've been really impressed with how 993 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: clean everything is starting to look with his game. 994 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 2: But he got a haircut. Friends don't let friends get haircuts, Luke. 995 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 2: It turned out good for. 996 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 1: Him, though, exactly cut off that that thing was a 997 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: waste of time. All right, how about this one? This 998 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: is fun Dan Hooker versus Jalen Turner UFC two eighty 999 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: five March fourth. This will be obviously in Australia in 1000 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: Perth BC. Listen to this from Jalen Turner. He has 1001 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: fought Calan Potter, Australian Joshua Kolbau. I believe Australian. He 1002 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: might be New Zealand, but one of the two. Right 1003 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: then he fought Jamie Malarkey Australian Brad Riddell Kiwi. He's 1004 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: fighting yet another Kiwi. Uh here again between between Australia 1005 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: and New Zealand. I think Jalen Turner's trying to fight 1006 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: all y'all. I don't know he might. Yeah. 1007 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 2: I was going to call him the ossecutioner as lame 1008 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 2: as that was until you mentioned all the Kiwi slayings 1009 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 2: on top of that, Luke, But uh yeah, that just 1010 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,399 Speaker 2: turned out that way. But man, I like this fight 1011 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: a lot too. Did did Oscar Willis break this news? Look, 1012 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: I know he does that drinking pod with with Dan Hooker. 1013 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: He did, I believe, Yeah, yeah. 1014 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 2: I want to give Oscar Willis some respect there as 1015 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 2: a man for you know, doing living his life as 1016 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: recklessly as he does. Luke, that man, and that man's tough, 1017 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: you know at the end of the day. But uh, 1018 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: do you think Hooker's going to turn that corner? Luke 1019 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 2: is going to come back and be a. 1020 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Remember Hooker and Riddell teammates teammates, so 1021 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: it's trying to avenge a teammate there as well. Hooker 1022 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: obviously much well. I would say Redell was striking base, 1023 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: but he just didn't look like himself. I think Hooker 1024 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 1: has looked despite all of the damage, he still looked 1025 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: pretty freshish, I think is a fair way to put it. 1026 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 1: So I'm expecting a tough fight. But man, Turner just 1027 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: looks like dude. He uses his range so well, he's quick, 1028 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: he's athletic, he has just you know, dynamite finishing ability. 1029 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, dude, that's a tough fight 1030 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: for Dan Hooker. 1031 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: Do you think he named his spider Luke? 1032 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I had a friend who had a 1033 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: spider once. They're fucking weird, all right. 1034 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: Buzz from home alone, Luke, that guy was a dirthole. 1035 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was all right, makwan, I'm here, Kannie taking 1036 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: on Jack Shore. This will be a UFC two eighty 1037 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: six in London. Be see Jack sure shouldn't he had 1038 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: that one loss. I think recently that kind of derailed 1039 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: him a little bit. But other than that, I just 1040 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,879 Speaker 1: think he's got a higher upside than I'm here, Connie. Yeah, 1041 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: but could be a fun one. 1042 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 2: Do you think there's there's a Was there a lot 1043 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 2: of buzz when Jack Short came to the UFC that 1044 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: that there's a future title tender here. 1045 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: Yes, there was, Yes, And I think by the way, 1046 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: it'd be foolish to write them off. But some learning 1047 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: lessons along the way, I think as well. The way 1048 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: I'd put it, Uh, this is a fun one. This 1049 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: is a really fun one. This will be a UFC 1050 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: two eighty seven April eighth. Kelvin Gasolom was going to 1051 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: take on Chris Curtis. Chris Curtis, you know, didn't look 1052 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,120 Speaker 1: so great against Jack Harmanson, but rebounded beautifully. I think 1053 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: has really recaptured the fans enthusiasm. He can box his 1054 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: ass off and Kelvin gasolam man he can box two 1055 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 1: but is in need of a win. But these two 1056 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 1: are kind of if you think about it for a second, BC, 1057 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: they're well matched. Both guys can really damage the other 1058 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: one here. This one could be fun. 1059 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't see action in that one too, and 1060 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, would you say that's a 1061 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 2: better matchup for Gasolum, who is you know, in dire 1062 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 2: need of getting a win here and turning things around 1063 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: than maybe the Nasardine Luke? 1064 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I do think, not to say that Curtis is 1065 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: some step over, no, but stylistically I think that he'll 1066 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: just put himself in a place that Gastlm is like, Okay, 1067 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 1: I'm happy to fight on these terms, whereas Ymavov I 1068 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 1: don't think would have been asked consistently good about that 1069 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: that kind of. 1070 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to see Gaslam have a Johnny Hendrix 1071 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 2: like exit, Luke. I want to see him, I want, 1072 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 2: I still believe Okay. 1073 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you can't, I mean, here's the thing. 1074 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: Be see to the point we're making, like Chris Curtis 1075 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: is going to meet him in the middle and he's 1076 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: going to be happy to box with him. All right, 1077 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: you can't beat that guy. Not saying Chris Curtis is 1078 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: easy to beat, but you can't beat a guy who's 1079 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: supposed to be roughly at your level, who is willing 1080 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: to fight you in the very way that you like 1081 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: to fight. That spells trouble, right, it's not. It's not 1082 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: Jack Hermanson trying to take him down and then going 1083 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: for a leg lock or whatever. But in any case, 1084 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: all right, how about this one? This is b see 1085 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: I wrote it. I think I wrote him off on 1086 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: the end of the year thing because I was like, 1087 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: we haven't seen him forever. It's going to be it. 1088 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: But he's back. Sage north Cut is going to take 1089 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 1: on Ahmed. And if I'm mispronouncing it, please forgive me much. Taba, 1090 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: I think is how you pronounce it. I'm not sure 1091 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 1: it's spelled mujtaba. This will be at one Fight Night 1092 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: ten Sinko de Mayo May fifth BC. Sage north Cut 1093 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: his back. He was the victim against Cosmo as Chandre 1094 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: of epically poor matchmaking on the part of one. And 1095 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: I want to say something too, Mikey Musumechi's last grappling 1096 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: contest against the I think he's either I think he's 1097 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: Mongolian or something like that. He was a decorated, decorated 1098 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: combat sambo guy. In fact, he was the reigning world 1099 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: champion in combat sambo. But those guys against the very 1100 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: very best nogi grapplers in the world, they're going to 1101 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: be outmatched. And he tore his mcl pcl ACL and meniscus. 1102 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: He might never make a full recovery. They booked a 1103 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: squash match, and that's kind of what happens when you 1104 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: do that. They booked a squash match. In the case 1105 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: of Stage north Cut. It took four fucking years for 1106 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: this guy to get back here, but here he is. 1107 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: I kind of hope he wins to be honest with you. 1108 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,959 Speaker 2: Well, me too, me too, I do. I'll be talking 1109 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 2: to him later today, Luke. So I really look forward 1110 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: to nice, okay, great, picking his brain and seeing exactly 1111 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: where he's at, because you know, I'm sure there were 1112 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 2: multiple times that he thought that was it too, We 1113 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 2: thought that was pretty much it. Here is a guy, Luke, 1114 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: who you know, seems to have a bright future in 1115 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,319 Speaker 2: certain areas if he wants to go after. I mean, 1116 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: look like I could model. Couldn't he be a fitness 1117 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 2: model tomorrow? Lucer? Is he al? 1118 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: Yes? No, I think he already had know. I know 1119 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,439 Speaker 1: he has like a pretty great supplement deal with red 1120 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: Con Supplements, which is like a pretty big name in 1121 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,399 Speaker 1: the industry. They also reat Brian Shaw, four time World 1122 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: Strongest Man. 1123 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean he's like an influencer in a way, Luke, Okay, 1124 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 2: you know some yes. 1125 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: And he still I'll say this, he kept himself in 1126 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: good shape. He never got out of show. 1127 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 2: Let me say this. You know, we forget in a 1128 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,919 Speaker 2: way that he was, you know, a part of that 1129 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: that big announcement when when Dimitrius Johnson and Eddie Alvarez 1130 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: came over to one, it was like, okay, they're grabbing 1131 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: legitimate names from the UFC, you know, with with with 1132 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: certain levels left in the tank. I still want to 1133 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 2: see him fulfill that, even from a standpoint of just consistency, 1134 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: just showing up, whether it's win or lose, Luke, And 1135 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't think he'll hang around if it is, you know, 1136 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 2: lose lose, But I do think that, you know, I'd 1137 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 2: like to see just for his own right, he's so young. Still, 1138 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 2: I want to see him play out the string on 1139 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: his own terms and find out if he can get 1140 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 2: to a certain level of success or if you know, 1141 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 2: a combination of bad luck and it just didn't pan out, 1142 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 2: or the other extreme of you know, did the UFC 1143 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 2: get him too early when he was you know, yet 1144 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: yet to be fully refined in certain key categories. That's 1145 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,320 Speaker 2: probably true as well. But this is if I'm correct 1146 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, May fifth Luke. That's the first 1147 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 2: one fight card on us soil in Broomfield, Colorado, featured 1148 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 2: Demetrius Johnson Marich trilogy at the top of it. So 1149 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 2: in that regard, this is an attraction, right, we want 1150 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 2: to see what he looks like. This could be interesting. 1151 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about Mutaba if I correctly pronounce 1152 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 2: it that way, But do you know, is he can 1153 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: he fight Luke? 1154 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 1: Don't know much about him, don't know much about it. 1155 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm expecting them to give stage. I mean, dude, 1156 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,760 Speaker 1: if I mean, forget about all the damage to his face, 1157 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: just the time off alone, I think he would need 1158 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: a soft entry if the guy moved up or Mutaba, 1159 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: however you pronounce it, if he's overmatched he's supposed to be. Like, 1160 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: they should give Sage north Cut not a complete cab 1161 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 1: driving scrub, but they should give him what I think 1162 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: they've got here, which is, you know, a fighter with 1163 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: some experienced, some ability that Sage north Cut is just 1164 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: much better than and should be able to dispatch. I 1165 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: think that's very reasonable and fine. 1166 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 2: Remember a couple of years ago, I'm not talking about 1167 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 2: Big Tuna, but Bellator had that guy who worked in 1168 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 2: the meat locker. Yes, they should get that guy, Luke. 1169 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if the weight matches. I probably not. 1170 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 2: They should get that guy though. 1171 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, he actually worked at like a Pigley Wiggly or something, 1172 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: which is fine, but like, I'm not sure how much 1173 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: actual training he was doing, you know what I mean 1174 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: A style. 1175 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 2: Wasn't he punch in the dead carcass Rocky Belboa style? 1176 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, all right. Bellatoor An noownced something kind of interesting, 1177 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: which was they have now agreed to a multi fight, 1178 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: multi year contract extension with current Bellator light heavyweight champion 1179 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: Vedeem Nemkov. He will stay in the Bellator family for 1180 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: at least probably a couple more years, potentially longer than that. 1181 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,760 Speaker 1: BC great news. For belt or. We've had al his conversation. 1182 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: Jamal Hill obviously did very, very very well for himself 1183 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 1: at light heavyweight. But the deem Nemkov having that great 1184 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 1: win over Cory Anderson. Their rematch really showed that if 1185 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: he's not the best lightheaded weight in the world, he 1186 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 1: certainly deserves consideration among them. That's a good thing for belts. 1187 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 2: Or tool might he might be the best. He really 1188 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 2: might be right now the ruck he's on. I know 1189 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 2: there was the misstep in the first Anderson fight, which 1190 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 2: you could almost say, and to some degree, was he 1191 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,919 Speaker 2: lucky that it ended in a no contest or could 1192 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 2: he have you know, rallied in those championship rounds. We're 1193 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 2: not sure. It didn't look like it was going his 1194 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 2: way that night though, But you know, given the second chance, 1195 00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 2: damn damn did he you know must y'all you all 1196 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 2: must have forgot. It was one of those moments. Indeed, 1197 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 2: so pay that man his money. Hopefully that all worked out, Luke. 1198 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 2: But on top of that, I've already talked about, Look, 1199 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: I think of Anderson rematch could be, you know, could 1200 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 2: be a serious fight down the road. How about obviously 1201 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 2: I like him against Musasi if gay Guard likes that direction, 1202 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 2: But do you ever see a scenario in which Nemkoff 1203 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 2: under the Belatoor banner tries to move up and go 1204 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 2: after heavyweight? Like what if Bader knocks out Nemkov's guy 1205 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 2: fad or Off February fourth on CBS, you know, and 1206 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: what if he's like, all right, I've seen this twice 1207 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 2: and I've seen enough of it. Baiter, I'm coming. 1208 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm jizzing. I think you could see it, but not 1209 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: even against Batter. I think it would have to take 1210 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: some time. He's still like he is definitely the best 1211 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: guy in Beltore's like heavyweight division, but that's still somewhat unsettled. 1212 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,359 Speaker 1: He's supposed to fight Yoel. We didn't get that. We 1213 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: still need to see that. Like, I think he's just 1214 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: got work ahead of him at two o five. But 1215 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm with you that like a move up a weight class, 1216 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: especially given Beltore and like how they're kind of a 1217 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: little bit more liberal with their attitudes in terms of 1218 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: allowing these kinds of things, you might see it sooner 1219 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: than you otherwise would. I think that's definitely true. And 1220 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: BC last, but not least tell me how much I 1221 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: should care. This is the way I would question it. 1222 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 1: Tell me how much I should care. Anthony Joshua is 1223 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: set to return April first. No, this is not a 1224 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: joke against Jermaine Franklin. Jermaine Franklin versus Anthony Joshua April one. 1225 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: It'll be in the UK, I believe BC. Should I 1226 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: care how much? 1227 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 2: Okay, if you are under the way of thinking like 1228 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 2: I am in this moment, that Joshua deserves a comeback 1229 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 2: fight here, a step down on the level of competition 1230 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 2: because he's only been fighting the best you know, you know, 1231 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 2: whether mandatory or not, for a good stretch now, and 1232 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,440 Speaker 2: he's you know, tried to come back twice from defeats 1233 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 2: and had mixed results in that regard, I allow him 1234 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 2: a step down. This actually isn't that big of a 1235 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: step down though. That's the thing. If you would ask 1236 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 2: me a year ago, Luke, I would have told you 1237 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: Jermaine Franklin is an interesting American heavyweight prospect, but I'd 1238 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 2: yet to see anything big that I can say more. 1239 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 2: You know that I see more in him, like big 1240 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 2: baby Jared Anderson. I see something right this guy. I 1241 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 2: didn't see that until his last fight let's give him 1242 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: the credit. He goes in there against Dillian White. I 1243 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 2: had my doubts Dillion White could have used a big 1244 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,760 Speaker 2: whin there to try to set up an AJ rematch, 1245 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 2: and dude, I thought frank upon rewatching, that probably deserved 1246 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 2: the decision. White ended up getting a disputed I think 1247 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 2: it was a split decision in the end, but it 1248 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 2: was a competitive fight. Franklin showed that he's on another level. Obviously, 1249 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 2: there's we should have a discussion of exactly how much 1250 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: we think Dillian White has left. But that was a 1251 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: great performance and to get rewarded even though he lost. 1252 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 2: If this, if this you know report is accurate here 1253 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 2: against AJ, this might be the right test for AJ 1254 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: because whatever direction AJ is going now in terms of 1255 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: mindset and strategy, and I don't know if he's keeping 1256 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,839 Speaker 2: Robert Garcier going with an all new trainer. I haven't 1257 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 2: followed that part of it that closely, but you know, 1258 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: there are internal discussions as we talked about that need 1259 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 2: to be had about you know, are you a boxer, 1260 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 2: are you a puncher? Based on the matchup, you're gonna 1261 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 2: have to you know, you don't have to be different 1262 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,480 Speaker 2: things here. I thought he's he committed too much to 1263 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 2: his boxing in general, and that's what led to the 1264 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 2: two Usk losses, even though he fought well in spurts 1265 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 2: and pockets and and you know, against anybody not named 1266 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 2: Usik or Fury. I think he is a good enough 1267 00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,799 Speaker 2: and capable enough boxer that he can out box you 1268 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 2: and use the boxing to set up his power punch 1269 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: is late, But dude, he's got to figure out what's 1270 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: the best use of his strengths, you know, in the 1271 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 2: opportunities he has left, which could be big. I like 1272 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 2: this matchmaking here, I'm okay with it, but don't do 1273 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 2: you echo me where it's like step into being a puncher, dude, 1274 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 2: because in certain matchups that's exactly who you need to be. 1275 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 2: Go after it, man. 1276 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: I definitely, especially in this stage of his career where 1277 00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: it's like you couldn't beat Usick. You know, it's not 1278 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: about maybe it is for him still being the best, 1279 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: but to me, it's like I want to see you 1280 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 1: on a And this is very easy for you or 1281 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: I to say, yep, but like what would I like 1282 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: to see I like to see a guy who goes like, okay, 1283 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: I can't manage these fights on my way to being 1284 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 1: the best, and I can fight with a risk of 1285 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 1: your style, which means I might get more losses than normal. 1286 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: But I also feel like he can get himself back 1287 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: to a place where you know, he can let his 1288 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: athleticism and his power do more work than a reserved 1289 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: game plan otherwise could, and you'll get on even results 1290 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,479 Speaker 1: from that PC. But you might actually get higher highs. Right, 1291 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: you might get lower lows two, but you might get 1292 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: higher highs. And at the stage he's in, trying to 1293 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: carefully manage a fight through twelve rounds to prove I'm 1294 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: still the best avyweight seems like a bit of a 1295 00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: wasted effort. But I'm sure you know he's got a 1296 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: different perspective. 1297 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: And look, anyone could counter what we say and said, well, 1298 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 2: look he's had you know, not chin issues, but per se. 1299 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: But like you know, you can hurt him. You can 1300 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 2: hurt him man, and that can change the tenor of 1301 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 2: the fight like it did in the first two Ruiz one. 1302 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 2: So but you know, I think he's got to lean 1303 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,120 Speaker 2: on those strengths when it matters. Let's see if I 1304 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 2: don't know, Let's see who's training them, Let's see his mindset. 1305 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: Let's see what happens here. But if he does come back, 1306 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 2: remember that he said he'd love to have two to 1307 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: three fights, with the second one being Dillian White and 1308 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 2: the third one being you know, presumably whoever comes out 1309 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 2: of the Usik Fury fight. So I think Anthony Joshua 1310 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,919 Speaker 2: can still get there, meaning I think he can get 1311 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 2: back to close this year either fighting or on the 1312 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,760 Speaker 2: road to be fighting for the undisputed championship and be 1313 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 2: in a spot where we have confidence that you know, 1314 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 2: you're not going to favor him against Fury, but you 1315 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 2: want to have the cop confidence that he can potentially 1316 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 2: turn that into a fight and have moments and have 1317 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 2: a shot to win it. I think there's still reality there, Luke, 1318 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: even though just as easily on the flip side, I 1319 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 2: could see Fury breaking him down and stopping him. But 1320 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 2: I do think there's a window here still left for 1321 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 2: Joshua to to find how great. 1322 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,160 Speaker 1: He can be again, Sue, That's what Wilder did. Wilder 1323 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: in the third fight, you know, he didn't try to 1324 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: really outbox Tyson Fury. He knew he wasn't gonna and 1325 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: Tyson Fury tried to outbox him and of course Tyson 1326 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: also invited a little bit of risk based on what 1327 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: he was doing. But like you know, Wilder didn't win, 1328 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: but Wilder put him on his ass, like in a 1329 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: way that you know, it was just pretty fucking remarkable. 1330 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that Joshua was capable of at least that 1331 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. 1332 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see, man. I love I love this. 1333 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny. I heard Max Kellerman on his 1334 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: ESPN show officially say, and he recognized that we don't 1335 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: have a lot of great heavyweight eras in boxing history, 1336 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, there's been great heavyweights, 1337 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 2: but outside of the nineteen seventies, nineteen nineties, it's really 1338 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: hard to pick one stretch and say that's an era, 1339 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, there was a champion sometimes 1340 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 2: with two other names. You knew that that ended up, 1341 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, making their debt and history. But Max believes 1342 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 2: this renaissance era that we're in right now, Luke, where 1343 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 2: at least we have a lot of commercially viable guys 1344 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 2: who want to fight each other for the combination of 1345 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 2: combined talent here with Usik, Joshua Wilder and Fury, not 1346 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 2: to mention, you know the secondary names after that, this 1347 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 2: is becoming one of the greatest eras in heavyweight history. 1348 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 1349 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I would like to I'd like to move on. 1350 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to keep the show on track if I may. 1351 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Great, great discussion. 1352 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: That great. Yeah, So we don't have to I mean 1353 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 1: we don't have to have that's the most important part. 1354 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: We can actually keep the show on a time budget 1355 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: that we have talked about. All right, b C. With 1356 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: that in mind, let's get to this point topic number four, 1357 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 1: Lauren Murphy. Now, we did talk about this on Monday, 1358 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,760 Speaker 1: namely like should the corner have stopped it? And again 1359 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: there were things that Daniel Cormier hit said as part 1360 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 1: of the broadcast team that her corner didn't necesscessarily say. 1361 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: We were just having a discussion like should have been stopped? 1362 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: What are some of the arguments about it? Blah blah blah. 1363 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: She responded, BC, Yes, she did quote she wrote a 1364 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: tweet about it. She says, all the podcasters and fans 1365 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: screeching about Lauren Murphy needs a new corner and they 1366 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: should throw in the towel. Now in fairness to us, 1367 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: b C, I don't think you or I called for 1368 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: her to have a new corner. I don't think we 1369 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: did that. And by the way, when she says all 1370 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:27,280 Speaker 1: the podcasters and fans, it's like, Dude Cormier and Paul 1371 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Felder and John Annick were the ones who brought them 1372 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: this up? Are you suggesting that they're podcasters? I mean, 1373 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's technically true. 1374 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 2: They are all, don't They all host their own podcasts. 1375 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: They do, But it almost sounds like she's absolving them 1376 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: and like pointing the finger at like media and fans. 1377 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 1: I could be wrong about that. I don't know, but 1378 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: it just was unclear anyway, Here's what she argues. Is 1379 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: anyone arguing that Glover to SHARE's corner should have stopped 1380 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the stopped it? But yes, is the answer, Like many 1381 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: people did. I saw him after the fights, and he 1382 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: looked way worse than me. We haven't seen her, so I 1383 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. Both his eyes are closed 1384 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: and he took a lot of unanswered shots. It's true. 1385 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: What about when Brian Ortega got a boxing lesson in 1386 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the fight against Max Holloway. That fight 1387 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: was stopped after the fourth look at Darren Elkins's entire career. 1388 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: It's a fist fight. Sometimes we get beat up. Sometimes 1389 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,439 Speaker 1: it might make you uncomfortable. That is your problem. Where 1390 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: were these people when Yohanna looked like e fing mega 1391 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: mind in her fight with Jean way Lee. Plenty of 1392 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: people call for that to be stopped. If they're concerned 1393 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: for safety, why weren't they screaming for her to be pulled? 1394 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Some were competitive or not. Shouldn't her safety have come first? 1395 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Missed me with that double standard bs And she also 1396 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 1: goes on to say something kind of interesting b SE, 1397 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: which was that you know, She's like, I signed up 1398 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,320 Speaker 1: for this. I mean, I have a few responses, and 1399 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: I'd like to get yours. One of the things I 1400 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: want to make clear here is the government regulates this. 1401 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: The government cannot regulate any activity that anyone in theory 1402 01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: would consent to. For example, you could not even if 1403 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: people would consent to fighting for the death, fighting to 1404 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: the death. Excuse me, the government does not have a 1405 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 1: compelling interest in regulating or allowing this kind of activity. 1406 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: You can't consent to something like that, It's not really allowed. 1407 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: So that's an exaggerated example that I'm trying to make here. 1408 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: But you get the point. Just because you consent doesn't 1409 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 1: mean that that consent allows it to be okay. There's 1410 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 1: a broader discussion about what kind of damage we allow 1411 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: and don't. Your consent to it is relevant only up 1412 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: to a point. But please your response. 1413 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm not too mad at her. I don't 1414 01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 2: agree in general, but it seems Luke, you know, like 1415 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 2: you know the big part of it. She's pouring her 1416 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 2: heart out. And I don't question her toughness at all. 1417 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 2: I mean, no, that's not part of this at all. 1418 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: And you know you hear you saw it, and they're 1419 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 2: saying I am tough. We all think you're tough. That's 1420 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 2: not the question here. I don't even think it's necessarily 1421 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 2: a double standard too, although I do think it's worth 1422 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 2: of conversation. Do we because the majority of MMA fans 1423 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 2: would be male compared to female, although there are a 1424 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 2: lot of female fans, do we look at when female 1425 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 2: fighters are in trouble and want to be quicker to 1426 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: say stop it because you know that that could be 1427 01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 2: you know that you look and that could be my mother, 1428 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 2: my daughter, my wife, my father, you know whatever. I 1429 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I don't know. I just think in 1430 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 2: this case, Luke, based on her comments, like you know, 1431 01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 2: she's like, when people gonna be happy, is that not 1432 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 2: enough for you? It's like, no, they're never gonna be happy. 1433 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Like they're critics, whether they're fans who you know, you 1434 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 2: have to take what the fans say to with a 1435 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 2: certain grain of salt, especially the aggressive ones. And on 1436 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,360 Speaker 2: the flip side, also media too. I mean, you know, 1437 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 2: to some degree, Luke, we are filling shows, and I 1438 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 2: don't you know, what we say can be constructive criticism 1439 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: if a fighter ever wants to hear it, but should 1440 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 2: not be something a fighter is using as a something 1441 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 2: they're fighting against to try to make changes to show us. 1442 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 2: So in that regard, I didn't like the spirit of 1443 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 2: how Lauren wrote that, but it's an emotional response after 1444 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 2: the fact, I just disagree, Luke. 1445 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I listen, Lauren Murphy is very smart. 1446 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, Over the years and covering her career and 1447 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: listening to her speak, I've come away very impressed by 1448 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: the things that she says. By and large, and BC 1449 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. Everything that's 1450 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: gone right in her career, She's earned every every inch 1451 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 1: of it. There's nothing she's ever gotten that she didn't 1452 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: have to earn the hard way. Probably right, I mean 1453 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: very much, someone who has carved their own destiny and 1454 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 1: did it uphill. And I have a tremendous amount of 1455 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 1: respect for her. When she says what she says, I 1456 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: think she's being honest and I don't think she's necessarily 1457 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: being unthoughtful. But fighters keep wanting to do this. This 1458 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: is the one thing I'm going to say. Fighters keep 1459 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: wanting to make this debate about what they want, and 1460 01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: that what they want is really the ultimate arbiter of 1461 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 1: what is okay, it is not? It is not now. 1462 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 1: It is not to say that we don't care what 1463 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: they say. We care what fighters have to say a lot. 1464 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 1: In fact, of all the people who have voices, theirs 1465 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: might be the most important one. So for that reason 1466 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: I encourage everyone to look at her full comments, pay 1467 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 1: attention to what she says. She's not in any way stupid. 1468 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: This is a very bright woman. However, BC, when we 1469 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: talk about rules about health and safety, we have to 1470 01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:01,000 Speaker 1: convince all of the stakeholders, the regulators, the promoters, the 1471 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: fighters to an extent, the fans to an extent, the media, 1472 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: the broader community. Those are the ones that largely shape 1473 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: the rules or some of the norms that end up 1474 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: creating some of the rules. It is not merely what 1475 01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: the fighter either consents to or thinks is acceptable. That 1476 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: is not the ultimate arbitrary. And we need to be 1477 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I think fair to fighters. We need to hear them, 1478 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and we need to be pay some deference to them, 1479 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: but not reflexive debt death. 1480 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 2: Well, they're too close to it. They're too close to 1481 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,640 Speaker 2: the situation, and they're in control of a lot of 1482 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: that situation. But it to me, it's no different like 1483 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 2: when you say, oh, you're a judge, Okay, you can't 1484 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: be the you can't preside over the court case involving 1485 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 2: your nephew, right, you know what I mean, it's like, no, 1486 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 2: you're too close to it. And in this regard, it's 1487 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 2: like that's the case. But I think, you know, her 1488 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,040 Speaker 2: argument just loses a lot of steam because her fight 1489 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 2: wasn't competitive at all without the history of finishes like 1490 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 2: we've talked about. So in that regard, it wasn't a 1491 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 2: title fight in round five, right, you know, it wasn't. 1492 01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: So there you go, h okay by the way you see. 1493 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: John Hackelman spoke to the MMA Hour talking about the 1494 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: Glover fight. He was in the corner. He said just 1495 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 1: a couple things very quickly that I thought we're interesting. One, 1496 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: he says, quote, I'm a known fight stopper in between rounds. 1497 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of known for that, maybe a little bit 1498 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: too much at times, but I thought this was a 1499 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 1: good time to stop it. I was out voted in 1500 01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the corner. Kind of interesting. And then lastly, on Glover's retirement, 1501 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,760 Speaker 1: win or lose, he would have retired. Hackelman said, he's ready, 1502 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: He's done enough, He's proved enough. I will say this. 1503 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: She was asking, like, who was talking about throwing in 1504 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: the towel in their corner? Or excuse me, who was 1505 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 1: throwing in Who was talking about stopping the fight or 1506 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: throwing in the towel in the Glover fight. Turns out 1507 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Glover's corner. Yeah, you know, it turns out Glover's corner. Now, 1508 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: granted was a five round fight, blah blah blah, but 1509 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything from Lauren's corner, which you know, 1510 01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: as a three round fight, maybe you don't expect you necessarily, 1511 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: but there were some meaningful differences, and Hack, of course, you. 1512 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 2: Know, was there with Glover from the beginning in the 1513 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 2: camp with Liddell, but is in his day to day 1514 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 2: coach now. And he said he was invited here as 1515 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 2: more of a ceremonial encouragement role. In fact, he revealed 1516 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 2: as you read that tweet or that read the quote 1517 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 2: there that you know Glover said one last ride was 1518 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 2: the quote come, you know, come, come join my corner. 1519 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 2: This will be the last time. So Luke, that's look okay. 1520 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,360 Speaker 2: The stuff about him retiring and should have been stopped. 1521 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,439 Speaker 2: It could have been stopped easily after the round four, 1522 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 2: but I think we all saw how close Glover, who 1523 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 2: got full mount in round five, actually was to potentially 1524 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 2: winning that fight, which is wild. But Luke, he win 1525 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 2: or lose Glover to share was gonna pull the GSP right, 1526 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,960 Speaker 2: give the lip service publicly of saying, don't worry, I 1527 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 2: won't retire, I'll defend it, you know, blah blah blah. 1528 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 2: Our biggest fear entering this fight hill to Sheriff as like, 1529 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 2: you know, the purity of being an MMA fan in 1530 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 2: respecting rankings in hierarchy is like is the is the 1531 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 2: winner gonna look like the best light headweight in the world, 1532 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 2: or were we gonna feel like this is a mess 1533 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 2: because Blahovich and Anklaiav drew and then you know, we 1534 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 2: just panicked and went to the next two in line. 1535 01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 2: I mean, who the hell is gonna fight next? For this? 1536 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 2: Luke Darren Hill? I mean, where are we going with this? 1537 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 2: We were rescued from that, I believe by Jamal Hill 1538 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:03,759 Speaker 2: having just such a break through, amazing performance. But dude, 1539 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,679 Speaker 2: especially if Glover had won this in the dramatic come 1540 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,200 Speaker 2: from behindway, dude, this is right. There's no chance he 1541 01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: was so Look, he would have retired and left the 1542 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 2: belt right there. What would we have said after that? 1543 01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,639 Speaker 2: What would we have How would I reaction have been? 1544 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 1: Like chaos? Chaos, that would have been. I gotta tell you, 1545 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: the UFC dodged a bullet with that one. They dodged 1546 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,000 Speaker 1: a bullet. And I understand Glover. I understand Glover's position completely, 1547 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: Like if you took that beating and then you came back, 1548 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: you were already thinking about retiring anyway, you get it, 1549 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: like anything else after that, you are just courting disaster. 1550 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 1: You would have to stop. But that's terrible for the division. 1551 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: That's terrible for the UFCO. They got lucky, they got 1552 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: They got really unlucky with Macca met Uncleliav and Jan Blohovitch. 1553 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,800 Speaker 1: They got really unlucky with that, But they got very 1554 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 1: lucky with Jamal Hill. 1555 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,280 Speaker 2: They would have had to go to to go to 1556 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 2: Glover and be like, what's the number? 1557 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 1: What's serious? Now? 1558 01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 2: You can build a new academy with this? You can, 1559 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, cause look, you know what the best part 1560 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 2: about were quickly for Connecticut fans about the embedded build 1561 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 2: up in the Countdown show heading into this fight, we 1562 01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 2: got to see Glover in his backyard. He has like 1563 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,760 Speaker 2: the plunge pool thing, and he's got the hot tub. Look, 1564 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 2: he lives in basically like the same house I live in. 1565 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 2: It's like a you know, decent raised Like he's just 1566 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 2: this regular dude in a neighborhood there in Greater Danbury, Connecticut. 1567 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 2: And we saw that come out in our room service 1568 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,240 Speaker 2: diaries where it's like, we understand you have a superpower 1569 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 2: of bad assery, but outside of that, you're just that 1570 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 2: dude who can come over and help me fix my lawnmower. 1571 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:31,040 Speaker 2: Like that's literally him. 1572 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,240 Speaker 1: Luke so that's Glover. He lives. He lives comfortably, but 1573 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 1: you wouldn't say he lives extravagantly, you know, I don't 1574 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: think so. 1575 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 2: Just that dude, Yeah, just that dude. Well, I wonder 1576 01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 2: if if even he had a price for the million 1577 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,200 Speaker 2: dollar man Luke. 1578 01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: I do wonder that. It's one will never know, but 1579 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 1: but it's certainly something to think about. One of remind folks, 1580 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: we're getting closer to the end of the month, and 1581 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: of course you guys know what that means. Almost time 1582 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,040 Speaker 1: to select the money Lion Hammer of the Month. And 1583 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,800 Speaker 1: of course for those who may have missed it, we're 1584 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna spotlight undercard fighters who aren't getting the recognition they deserve. 1585 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 1: So our sponsor, money Lion came to us with the 1586 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,759 Speaker 1: Hammer of the Month, which invites you, guys, the viewers, 1587 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: to nominate undercard fighters who blew your mind and deserve 1588 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 1: to be rewarded for it. You have five days left 1589 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,879 Speaker 1: to go vote, so go to moneyline dot com slash 1590 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: Morning Combat to learn more. You can vote for Umar 1591 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: and Riga Madoff. You can vote vote for royman Via, 1592 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: you can vote for I Think s r Ishmael bon Fime, 1593 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: lots of other choices. 1594 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 2: Jelton Almeta. I think is look, there was a bunch 1595 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 2: from the last two UFC fight cards in general that 1596 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 2: have really made big statements. So I love to get nominated. 1597 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 2: I'd love to have such a good show or reaction 1598 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,640 Speaker 2: or segment one day. Luke Bruno Fijeda also on this 1599 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 2: list of producers, telling us that you know, somebody's like, hey, guys, 1600 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 2: love this money line thing, love the hammer, love all 1601 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 2: that stuff. Well BC killed it on that episode, you 1602 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 2: know he we may have to get we may have 1603 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 2: to get that guy his own hammer, all right, so 1604 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:56,639 Speaker 2: we have. 1605 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: To we have to find ways to give you yet 1606 01:11:58,720 --> 01:11:59,520 Speaker 1: more awards. 1607 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 2: That's the yes, thank you, thank you very much. There 1608 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,080 Speaker 2: you go, like that joke was so bad and lame, 1609 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 2: but I think BC found it, found the mark. He 1610 01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:07,760 Speaker 2: killed it. 1611 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you landed it. You landed the plane, all right. 1612 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: B See now it's time for you to land our 1613 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,639 Speaker 1: next segment. Go ahead, my friend. 1614 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, once in a while we fill time on a Wednesday, Luke. 1615 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,000 Speaker 2: One of my favorite things to do with a you know, 1616 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,679 Speaker 2: top relevant topic to the news cycle game. This one 1617 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:24,080 Speaker 2: hauled over under where Luke, I have ten numbers for 1618 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 2: you and you're gonna have to respond to tell me 1619 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 2: whether my prediction here is over or under. Luke Yeri Prohotzka, 1620 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 2: I remember him, the former light heavyweight king, told the 1621 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 2: MMA Hour on Monday that his shoulder is actually recovering 1622 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,439 Speaker 2: better than expected and he believes he can be back fighting, 1623 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 2: quote in July or August or something like that. He 1624 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 2: went on to say, I want to be sure that 1625 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 2: my body works for two hundred percent, and I think 1626 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 2: it can be summer of this year. Luke, seven and 1627 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 2: a half, that's your over under the number of months 1628 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 2: before we see Yeri Prohotska fight for the light heavyweight title. 1629 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 1: From this day, from this day. So if it's seven 1630 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,599 Speaker 1: and a half, we're into August or September then right. 1631 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess the end of August there is 1632 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 2: sort of where I'm targeting. 1633 01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 1: I'll take the over. I'll take the over. I appreciate 1634 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: and by the way, delighted to hear that things are 1635 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: going well. Certainly it would be amazing if he could 1636 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:24,600 Speaker 1: come back that fast. But I will tell you just 1637 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 1: skeptical about it. I think he actually will make an 1638 01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 1: expedite a timeline in the sense BC that it's not 1639 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 1: going to require a full year off. I don't think 1640 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: it sounds like a full year is just really not 1641 01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: at play. Six months was what he's talking about. Is 1642 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: very ambitious, and I just think by the time he 1643 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: gets back and then they book it, it's going to 1644 01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: be past the seven and a half month mark. So 1645 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say over, I'll take the over on that. Okay. 1646 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,840 Speaker 2: I think you're probably right, but I think it'll be 1647 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 2: like a day after that, a weekend after that. I mean, 1648 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,280 Speaker 2: he's maybe not. I think this is the kind of 1649 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,200 Speaker 2: guy that's going to fight to recovery, which some guys 1650 01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 2: just can do that. I don't understand that, Luke. 1651 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: Der injuries are a bitch man. They just take forever 1652 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 1: to fix. They take forever to fix. 1653 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see the response video from Jamal Hilly? 1654 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,360 Speaker 2: It just came out. We don't have it in time, 1655 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 2: but he went out to the woods and he was like, 1656 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 2: you know that's what she said. Hilarious, Well done there, 1657 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 2: sweet cream? All right, number two here, Luke, here we go. 1658 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,680 Speaker 2: You may not remember this as you watched UFC two 1659 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 2: eighty three with the sounddown as you like to do, 1660 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 2: but your boy BC Luke once again had one of 1661 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 2: my tweets air during the live pay per view broadcast 1662 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 2: after Johnny Yeah, after Johnny Walker's TKO in the first 1663 01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,639 Speaker 2: round of Paul Craig, which suggests Luke that MK's recent 1664 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 2: hard stance against both domestic slapping and the sporting type 1665 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 2: of slap might not lead to media banishment after all 1666 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 2: from Uncle Dana for your boys in the MK, I 1667 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 2: guess it's a roulette that we'll find out at the end. 1668 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 2: So I believe we have footage there of my tweet 1669 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,600 Speaker 2: or maybe somebody's gonna lose their job for putting my 1670 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 2: tweet on the broadcast. Also in play, Luke, do we 1671 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,000 Speaker 2: have the we're not gonna okay? 1672 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Here we go? 1673 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,400 Speaker 2: The over under, Luke is two and a half. Two 1674 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 2: and a half the combined amount of times that you 1675 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 2: or I step foot inside an arena during a live 1676 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 2: UFC fight card between now and the end of twenty 1677 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 2: twenty four? 1678 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 1: How many? How many did we step in in the 1679 01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: last year? 1680 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 2: And there's the tweet and mentioned Luke that you know 1681 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 2: me generically shouting out the big Johnny Walker win. 1682 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,560 Speaker 1: By the way, do it's very by the way, I 1683 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,559 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that's a very insightful tweet. 1684 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 2: Really, just that's the kind of content you can get 1685 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 2: at Bcampbell believe that, you know what I mean, whatever, 1686 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 2: whatever your mom thought sitting next to you, I had 1687 01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 2: the same exact thought. Wow, that's a nice win for 1688 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 2: Johnny Walker. Look, let me put it to you, Like, wait, 1689 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 2: what are we even talking about here? 1690 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 1691 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,640 Speaker 2: We went in twenty twenty two. We both showed up 1692 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 2: in Vegas for International Fight Week, but we actually both 1693 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 2: I don't think. Did I go in the arena? No? 1694 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I did go in the arena. 1695 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 2: No, we shot HQ from the media tent. No, not. 1696 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 1: We were credentialed, but we didn't go to the arena. 1697 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 2: They actually credentialed us up high too. That time. They 1698 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 2: said there was a shortage of availabilities. 1699 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what else. So I mean between 1700 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,000 Speaker 1: now and twenty twenty four, I'll take the under. I'll 1701 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 1: take the under on that. I mean, I mean, I 1702 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,160 Speaker 1: think we'll probably The UFC is still sending me all 1703 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,759 Speaker 1: their emails about like, hey, here's the fight night results, 1704 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: and here's photos for media and stuff, and like which 1705 01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: is the stuff they only send to media? Like again, 1706 01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,719 Speaker 1: I just we might get banned. I mean, who knows, 1707 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: but I tend to think that like Danta got a 1708 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 1: lot of bad press when you did that to Aeriel, 1709 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 1: And they still have a couple guys in the books 1710 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 1: that they do that too. Yeah, but I don't think 1711 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 1: they want to do that with like a CBS employee 1712 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 1: because it would turn into a bigger story again and 1713 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 1: they have to walk it back. I think they're just like, 1714 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 1: they're not going to do me or maybe even you 1715 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 1: any favors. 1716 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:48,760 Speaker 2: They'll just put us on the roof. 1717 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,479 Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, exactly, exactly. 1718 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,800 Speaker 2: That's the soft way of doing kicking somebody in the balls. Yeah, 1719 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 2: you're right, maybe, Luke. And also, we did go to 1720 01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 2: uh Thanksgiving or no, no, the November Seacard in MSG. 1721 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 2: We just didn't go in the building. 1722 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 1: We didn't even apply for credentials there because we didn't 1723 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 1: really need it. 1724 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, there you go, all right. Number three in 1725 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,679 Speaker 2: our over under Journey Luke. Luke Rockhold was also interviewed 1726 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 2: by Ariel Hawani on Monday and announced he was free 1727 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 2: from his UFC contract. He said he actually reached out 1728 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,840 Speaker 2: and asked and they they because he has such a 1729 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 2: great relationship, he says with Hunter Campbell, they let him go. 1730 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 2: So at thirty eight years old, Rockhold has declared himself 1731 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,799 Speaker 2: a combat free agent and said he's open to feeling 1732 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 2: offers from boxing or from MMA promoters like PFL, Belator, MMA, 1733 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 2: and One Championship. He also made a point in saying 1734 01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,080 Speaker 2: he still has a great relationship with Scott Coker. That 1735 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:40,800 Speaker 2: of course goes back to the Strakeforce days. So over 1736 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 2: under here is five and a half. If Rockhold did 1737 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,160 Speaker 2: reunite with Scott Coker and came to bellatour MMA. The 1738 01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 2: number of top ten Belatur MMA middleweights at the moment 1739 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:53,920 Speaker 2: that you think Luke rock Hold will be favored to beat. 1740 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 2: We have a graphic we can throw to with the 1741 01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,600 Speaker 2: ten Luke, so you can check it out. Five and 1742 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 2: a half is your over under for Luke Rockold. 1743 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Okay, he ain't beating Johnny Evlin, so you can write 1744 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 1: that one off the. 1745 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,679 Speaker 2: No, they're just fate. We're talking about betting odds favored 1746 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:07,559 Speaker 2: to win. Okay, that's all. 1747 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,720 Speaker 1: We're talking Judson. So they announced the fight. Who the 1748 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: osmakers have as the fave. 1749 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Jesus. 1750 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: I'll say. 1751 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,280 Speaker 2: I'd actually like to see him. 1752 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 1: He's maybe three or four at most. 1753 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,920 Speaker 2: I'd actually like to see him here, would you if 1754 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 2: he if he still wants to go this year. I 1755 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 2: know he mentioned boxing and he'd probably be willing to 1756 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 2: take a celebrity crossover too if it was there, Luke, 1757 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 2: But if he wanted to be just go into the 1758 01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 2: top ten here and try to become the belt or 1759 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 2: middleweight champion, I think he's got a he's got he 1760 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:45,839 Speaker 2: could have a run on him, Mike Crazy. 1761 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 1: I think I think he could. Listen, he is the biggest, 1762 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 1: like Okay Musasi's obviously done a lot better. Like who's 1763 01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 1: the most popular name in this group? It would be 1764 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,040 Speaker 1: if you added Luke Rockold to it, it would be Luke Rockold. 1765 01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,000 Speaker 1: So for that reason alone, he might be getting acquired. 1766 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: And you know, fight fans know him, and obviously he 1767 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 1: has unicated. He and Scott Coker worked together under the 1768 01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:10,559 Speaker 1: Strike Force banner previously. I think he could probably get 1769 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 1: a title shot, But like, I just don't think he 1770 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 1: could even come close to beating Johnny Evelyn or anybody. 1771 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't think he could beat Tokov. Dude. 1772 01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 2: I think bring him in, Bring him in. You put 1773 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:24,000 Speaker 2: him against Austin Vanderford, which would be an interesting style 1774 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 2: matchup for him. Yeah, and then I think if if 1775 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 2: he wins that, you got Musas and Eblin coming up 1776 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,280 Speaker 2: for him. There you go. 1777 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Look, you put him against Tokov, he doesn't win, Tokov 1778 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,040 Speaker 1: beats him easily. 1779 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 2: Took Off might win the title, Let's give him that credit. 1780 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 2: February fourth against Johnny Hemlin. 1781 01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: As a fucking hammer. 1782 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's built like a brick shitouse. 1783 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 1: Luke and Dalton Rosta too. Looks like goddamn hercules out there. 1784 01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: So uh, I think I think he could be an 1785 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: interesting addition. 1786 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 2: But or maybe you put him in there with Lorenz Larkin, 1787 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,599 Speaker 2: who's a middlewaight these days, Luke. 1788 01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 1: But Lorenz Larkin was fast, dude, and he would light 1789 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,560 Speaker 1: him up. You know. I I don't know about that 1790 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: one either. 1791 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,400 Speaker 2: No, I'm saying to be a good fight. It'd be 1792 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 2: a good fight. 1793 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh, it would be fun fight. I mean, here's the thing. 1794 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,480 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, how I mean they were at altitude 1795 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,680 Speaker 1: right again in his last contest at Paul against paul 1796 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: A Costa. You know, so like who knows how much 1797 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 1: they contributed to it, But he looked he didn't look 1798 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 1: like himself. He didn't look like himself. He didn't look 1799 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: like like Okay. 1800 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's something you'd Okay, I don't want to 1801 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,559 Speaker 2: overplay this, but would you agree that something awakened in 1802 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:26,160 Speaker 2: him during that fight which led to the violent outbursts 1803 01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 2: of big punches and you know, being crazy with the 1804 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,360 Speaker 2: blood and stuff. But like, I feel like that that 1805 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 2: reminded him that he can still do this and that 1806 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 2: he could fight back, and that it's in him. I 1807 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 2: don't know something. I feel like something happened there. I 1808 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 2: think we watched the transaction. 1809 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 1: I think he's you know, listening. He's a former UFC champion, 1810 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 1: he's a former Strike Force champion. He's only thirty eight 1811 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 1: years old. He's taken some damage that I think has 1812 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:52,679 Speaker 1: messed him up, but you can't say he couldn't beat 1813 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,639 Speaker 1: some of those guys, and I think for that reason, 1814 01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 1: if he wanted to, that could be a great opportunity 1815 01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 1: for him. 1816 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,439 Speaker 2: All right over under number four, Hare Lou, it's just 1817 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 2: twelve days until you and I hop on a plane, 1818 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 2: not together, but we hop separately across the Atlantic and 1819 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,800 Speaker 2: we land in London for Wednesday, February eighth, the Podlve 1820 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:14,680 Speaker 2: Festival are ninety minute live show. So twelve days from now, 1821 01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 2: when you get on that plane, luke over under eight 1822 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:21,200 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty the amount of milligrams of THHC that 1823 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 2: will be in your body upon takeoff for the seven 1824 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:24,719 Speaker 2: hour flight. 1825 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 1: Oh, eight fifty is a lot, Okay, yeah it is. 1826 01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,840 Speaker 2: That's a big flight though, dude, that's gonna be like 1827 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 2: rows of like three, four, four and three. It's gonna 1828 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,840 Speaker 2: be like one of those movie planes, right, it was 1829 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 2: like big. Guess. 1830 01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, so I paid for my own upgrade. Now I 1831 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't get first class because I can't afford that, but 1832 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 1: I got what they call what do they call it, 1833 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 1: premium economy. 1834 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had that before too. That's that's basically first class. 1835 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:49,599 Speaker 2: It's like the same thing. 1836 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it gives you more leg room, you 1837 01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 1: more recline room. And I think some of them have 1838 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,719 Speaker 1: like instead of like everyone's got four to a seat 1839 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,000 Speaker 1: or like three us to a row, the rows are 1840 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,879 Speaker 1: only two. So yeah, it's pretty nice. Even eight fifties 1841 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,559 Speaker 1: too much. I think six is six hundreds probably do that. 1842 01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: You can't get if you can't get across with six 1843 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,439 Speaker 1: hundred milligrams of THC gummys, something's wrong with you, you know? 1844 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just didn't know if you just 1845 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,160 Speaker 2: were like, knock me out. I'm ready, doctor, Just yeah, 1846 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 2: let's go, let's let's get it. 1847 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: It's like here, you could you could have if someone 1848 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 1: gave you eight hundred and fifty milligrams. It's like you 1849 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: and your four favorite horses could all get high off 1850 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: of that. I mean that's an insane amount. 1851 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sea Biscuit would love that shit. They'll care, no 1852 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 2: question about it. Yeah, all right. Number five, Adrian Broner. 1853 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I never saw that movie. I never saw Sea Biscuit. 1854 01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 2: It's inspiring to it was nominated on a Disney I 1855 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 2: don't think no, not for Best Picture the. 1856 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Sea Biscuit was nominated. 1857 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 2: Our intrepid producers can look that up quickly, all right. 1858 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:53,839 Speaker 2: Adrian Broner has another problem, luke surrounding his pun intended 1859 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 2: surrounding his February twenty fifth return on BLK Prime pay 1860 01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,439 Speaker 2: per view. Look are you even listening to me? 1861 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:01,360 Speaker 1: Yes? Though, yes and listening. Yeah. 1862 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 2: Broner's replacement opponent, thirty nine year old journeyman Hank Lundy, 1863 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 2: was removed by the California State Athletic Comission turns out 1864 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,639 Speaker 2: he's under medical suspension, so Ab will now face Michael 1865 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,400 Speaker 2: Williams Junior and on heralded twenty and one fringe welterweight 1866 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 2: who was dropped six times in his ESPN close up 1867 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,240 Speaker 2: in December of twenty twenty one in a fourth round 1868 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 2: knockout loss to prospect John Bowza. This will mark just 1869 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 2: the second time in four years before that Ab will 1870 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,200 Speaker 2: will fight Luke. It was nominated for Best Picture. 1871 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,080 Speaker 1: I can't reckon it was nominated for a lot more 1872 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 1: than that. I'll get to it in the end, but 1873 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:38,080 Speaker 1: go ahead. 1874 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 2: See oh my god. All right, So Broner is this 1875 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,920 Speaker 2: just be a second fight in four years? So Luke, 1876 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 2: you're and he's going to fight somebody you never heard of, 1877 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 2: and it's going to be on pay per view be 1878 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:49,480 Speaker 2: Okay Prime two and a half the amount of televised 1879 01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 2: pro fights that thirty three year old Adrian Broner will 1880 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,599 Speaker 2: will have before retiring for good. 1881 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Now I say televised, what do you mean? 1882 01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,679 Speaker 2: I mean not like, you know, hard up on money 1883 01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,120 Speaker 2: and he's you know, forty five years old and he's fighting, 1884 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,960 Speaker 2: you know, down the street just to off of his name, 1885 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,559 Speaker 2: just to keep things going. I mean, like you know, 1886 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:14,280 Speaker 2: showtime or pay per view or you know whatever to 1887 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,759 Speaker 2: his own ESPN whatever that level of stuff. 1888 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take the over. I'll take the over. You 1889 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: add this one. That means you'd only have to get 1890 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,719 Speaker 1: two more. I think he's probably got a couple more 1891 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 1: in him, especially if he looks good in this one, 1892 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,479 Speaker 1: which you know, who the hell knows if he will. 1893 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: He might look terrible, But if he looks okay and 1894 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 1: he's still got some name, do look, there's still a 1895 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 1: little bit of name value in beating Adrian Brunner. There is. 1896 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:44,680 Speaker 1: You know, you could highly debate what that is, and 1897 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,479 Speaker 1: it's certainly not what it once was, but it's not 1898 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 1: utterly bereft of value, and I think for that reason 1899 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,000 Speaker 1: you might get him a little bit more. 1900 01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 2: It's so hard to get this guy motivated though, Like 1901 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,640 Speaker 2: it took a lot of money from BLK Prime to 1902 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,879 Speaker 2: get him to want to do this. So I have questions, 1903 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 2: but I hope, I hope for his I don't know. 1904 01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if I hope it did whatever safer 1905 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 2: for him, Luke, you know what I mean, He's been 1906 01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 2: in so much mayhem all the time. 1907 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: I just want him to get into a good place 1908 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 1: in life, whatever that means. 1909 01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,240 Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. 1910 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: I agree BC for Seabiscuit, Ready for This nominated? 1911 01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 2: I can't believe this got about nominated for Best Picture? 1912 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 1913 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 1: Ready for this? How about this? Nominated? Best Picture nominated 1914 01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,760 Speaker 1: Best Riding Adapted Screenplay nominated. These are all Academy Awards nominated, 1915 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:32,480 Speaker 1: Best Art Direction nominated, Best Cinematography nominated, Best Costume Design nominated, 1916 01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Best Film Editing nominated, Best Sound Mixing. It was nominated 1917 01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: for all of those for the seventy six Annual Academy Award. 1918 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 2: All right, I remember seeing it on probably Netflix in 1919 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 2: the mail or whatever year that was that came out 1920 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,480 Speaker 2: going Hey man, that was a pretty damn good, inspirational 1921 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 2: Disney sports movie. I don't remember going like, oh, that'll 1922 01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 2: be up for the Oscar? Are you kidding me? 1923 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 1: Dude? Probably about a horse with some big ass teeth 1924 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: racing around track. Got all of that, how about that? 1925 01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:03,439 Speaker 1: There you go? There you go? 1926 01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 2: All right? Luke, I take the l I was dead 1927 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 2: wrong Number six on the over under. UFC President Dana 1928 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 2: White has appeared in front of the media just twice 1929 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 2: since the New Year's Eve domestic violence incident in Mexico. 1930 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 2: Although much of his explanation and reaction afterwards, to be fair, 1931 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 2: has been rightfully criticized, White has been about as humble 1932 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 2: and self reflective as we've ever seen him. He hasn't 1933 01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,759 Speaker 2: argued with anybody publicly or taken shots at anybody, even 1934 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: as the Power Slap League has been universally maligned. So, Luke, 1935 01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 2: my over under is five the number of months before 1936 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 2: Dana White publicly criticizes the scumbag MMA media again or 1937 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,160 Speaker 2: blames them for power slaps inevitable dissolution. 1938 01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: Under Take the under on that one, easy? Easy? Do 1939 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,120 Speaker 1: you really believe he's going to say that the Slap 1940 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 1: League failed because of something he did? I just that 1941 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:56,960 Speaker 1: doesn't seem. 1942 01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 2: For a bonus point. Which media members going to be 1943 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,839 Speaker 2: in the cross chairs when he breaks this this uh 1944 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:03,599 Speaker 2: this silence. 1945 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 1: That's an interesting one because I don't thin because here's 1946 01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the funny part about the fighters. The Discovery Channel one 1947 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,519 Speaker 1: that he did, it wasn't panned by the MMA media. 1948 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,200 Speaker 1: It was mostly ignored, and I think a couple of 1949 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 1: soks saw was like, yeah it's pretty good. Yeah, it's 1950 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,120 Speaker 1: pretty good, but they, you know, Discovery just didn't have 1951 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,679 Speaker 1: an interest in it at that time, and they pulled 1952 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the plug and didn't do great viewership this one. Like 1953 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:23,920 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of the MMA media that have 1954 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,759 Speaker 1: come out and been like, dude, what in the fuck 1955 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 1: is all of this? You or me are always a 1956 01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:33,880 Speaker 1: good candidate. Ariel's a good candidate, you know, But dude, 1957 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't just them, Like Jesus, anyone with a podcast 1958 01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: did it. Mike Heck went after him. I know, you know, 1959 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: I know, Jed Mshoe's gone after him, just be the 1960 01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,519 Speaker 1: spinning backlick. Guys had a lot to say about it too, 1961 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 1: Like there's been a lot of people so he might 1962 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,160 Speaker 1: just you might just do what he did before, which 1963 01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:53,759 Speaker 1: was just you know, spray the block on his drive 1964 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:55,880 Speaker 1: by on the COVID drive by. Remember that he was 1965 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: just spraying the block. Grandma's were getting hit. He didn't care. 1966 01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 1967 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 2: There's some still this day. 1968 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,280 Speaker 1: You can't figure out how I avoided being in that video. 1969 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: It really is. 1970 01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 2: He's not even you're not even on his hate radar. 1971 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 2: You guys should be happy with. 1972 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:11,160 Speaker 1: That, right, I guess so, But I find it weird. 1973 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I find it weird. You know that, like of all 1974 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 1: the people he went after, he didn't even use me once. 1975 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 2: Are you trying to like, like very subtly like hype 1976 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,559 Speaker 2: yourself up as like he knows better, he saw what 1977 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,639 Speaker 2: I He saw what happens when Chal tried. 1978 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,800 Speaker 1: He knows. I don't think Dana is in any way 1979 01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 1: intimidated by any of us. No, it's not that. It's 1980 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 1: more like it seems like like strategic to deny it, 1981 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: like he thought he was doing something against me in 1982 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,880 Speaker 1: that way. Maybe right, like I'll stick it to him 1983 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,760 Speaker 1: by not giving him attention or something kind of like that. 1984 01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Interesting. 1985 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 2: Interesting, All right, let's keep this going, Luke. Since you 1986 01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:53,840 Speaker 2: know we weren't able to talk about good stuff before, 1987 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,400 Speaker 2: why should we continue here? The pound for pound King 1988 01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 2: Alexander Alexander Volkanowski is just under three away from daring 1989 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 2: to be great lightweight title Mahachev UFC two eighty four 1990 01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 2: and Perth can't wait three and a half the combined 1991 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 2: number of featherweight fights remaining for Volkanowski under the UFC banner. 1992 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I'll take the under no matter what. So obviously, if 1993 01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 1: he wins against Makachev, he almost certainly drops one of them. 1994 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: In all likelihood he'll drop. I mean, if you can 1995 01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,920 Speaker 1: beat Islam Makachev, why would you not stay at one 1996 01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 1: fifty five. 1997 01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,879 Speaker 2: Unless you took unless you took hell of damage. 1998 01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, unless it's some kind of like, you know, horrible. 1999 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,080 Speaker 1: I never want to experience that again. But you know, 2000 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,920 Speaker 1: Markachev isn't like heavy with the punishment that way. It 2001 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 1: would require something kind of special. So if you can 2002 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,680 Speaker 1: beat Islam Makachev, just stay at fucking one fifty five. 2003 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 1: At that point, what I would say is, even if 2004 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:51,000 Speaker 1: he goes back down, how old is old Volkanowski. 2005 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 2: He's like, I guess thirty four. 2006 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,599 Speaker 1: I think he's right at thirty four. He'd be thirty three, 2007 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 1: but he's close to that. If so, you think about 2008 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,000 Speaker 1: three and a half more. If you take the over, 2009 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:04,160 Speaker 1: that's four, that's maybe two more years. I think by 2010 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,120 Speaker 1: thirty five he's doing something else or somewhere else, or 2011 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 1: up at weight class or something like that. I'll take 2012 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: the under I'll take that. 2013 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 2: That was an easy one for you, Luke. Here we 2014 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 2: go number eight. While the original idea of PFL launching 2015 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,679 Speaker 2: their new supervit pay per view division was centered around 2016 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:23,639 Speaker 2: Kayla Harrison and you know the hope of Cyborg. Kayla's 2017 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,519 Speaker 2: no longer the women's lightweight champion. Not to mention, PFL 2018 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 2: also recently signed Jake Paul to a two fight MMA 2019 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,080 Speaker 2: deal and could be potentially in the running for free 2020 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 2: agents like Francis and Ganu or Nate Diaz. So the 2021 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,439 Speaker 2: over under here is four the number of PFL pay 2022 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:43,760 Speaker 2: per view cards over the next two years. 2023 01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:52,559 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Mmm. I'll 2024 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: take the I'll take the over. I'll take the over. 2025 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,040 Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna try. 2026 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 2: You know, you count sore since they did a pay 2027 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:07,760 Speaker 2: per view for the Championship night, Yeah, in twenty two 2028 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,920 Speaker 2: you think they'll do that, So that'll be two of them, right. 2029 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 1: Yes, So, Like I mean, here's the thing, the Jake 2030 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 1: Paul thing alone, you know, gives me reason to think 2031 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 1: that that will get them at four bare minimum. So 2032 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,519 Speaker 1: all they would have to have is one more than 2033 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,559 Speaker 1: that over the course of two years. Yeah, I think 2034 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,799 Speaker 1: they probably Listen, here's my actual answer. My actual answers 2035 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:31,719 Speaker 1: are probably just gonna be right at for it won't 2036 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,640 Speaker 1: be any more or less. But if I had to 2037 01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,720 Speaker 1: make a choice, or I think they hit four or more, yes, 2038 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I would say that. I would say that they do interesting. 2039 01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 2: There's the potential, especially if they got in Ghano. 2040 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:43,479 Speaker 1: God, yeah, yeah, they get ok okay, to your point, 2041 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:47,560 Speaker 1: they've already got Jake, right, if they get Nate or Francis, 2042 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna be more than four. 2043 01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 2: Well, there's been there's been some reporting I think from 2044 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,000 Speaker 2: Dan Raypheld that ESPN is looking like they're probably gonna 2045 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 2: get the Jake Paul Tommy Fury fight. If that, if 2046 01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:01,200 Speaker 2: that pay per view is happening, like it's in February. 2047 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,400 Speaker 2: Do you think that's a big story that ESPN is 2048 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 2: like going all in here between PFL and now this 2049 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 2: to to keep the you know, to bring the Jake 2050 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,479 Speaker 2: under that rep I mean we had to hear time. 2051 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 2: It was fun. 2052 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,960 Speaker 1: That's a that's gonna be a pay per view fight, 2053 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,000 Speaker 1: or like it's gonna be the ESPN plus not pay 2054 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 1: per view. 2055 01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 2: No, I think it's a pay per view fight. 2056 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, a pay per view fight. That is interesting. That 2057 01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:24,200 Speaker 1: is interesting, you know, uh, because I don't think my 2058 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:27,040 Speaker 1: understanding is and again I don't speak for Showtime. Here, 2059 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 1: my understanding is the Showtime and Jake's team get along. Well, 2060 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 1: they might work together in the future like they made. 2061 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna work together obviously not 2062 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,960 Speaker 1: working together right away or maybe after this PFL deal 2063 01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,559 Speaker 1: is done. But like my understanding was, they just wanted 2064 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,560 Speaker 1: to go and fight, uh with people who had directly 2065 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,280 Speaker 1: the kinds of things they were looking for at that 2066 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,920 Speaker 1: particular moment, which may have ran out of in Showtime. Fine, 2067 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, go do what you want. But that dude, kiddy, 2068 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,519 Speaker 1: let me ask a question. Can ESPN make money on 2069 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 1: an afternoon pay per view with Jake Paul? 2070 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2071 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's a weird one, right. 2072 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know what the future there is, 2073 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 2: and I know that people watching on this show don't 2074 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:10,639 Speaker 2: want us to continue to talk about it. Look, let's 2075 01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 2: go to number nine. Forty five year old forty five 2076 01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 2: year old Floyd Mayweather has announced yet another boxing exhibition, 2077 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:21,160 Speaker 2: this time Jordie Shore, reality TV star and former MMA 2078 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 2: fighter Aaron Latour veteran Eltor veteran. It's going to be 2079 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 2: February twenty fifth in London. The original opponent Liam Harrison, 2080 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 2: the muy Thai fighter, pulled out, So Luke, you're over under. 2081 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 2: Here is one point three million the amount of buys 2082 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,679 Speaker 2: that a Floyd Mayweather versus Nate Diaz real boxing match 2083 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,559 Speaker 2: would sell if done under Showtime pay per view, which 2084 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,720 Speaker 2: has the history with Floyd and has more reach than 2085 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,880 Speaker 2: I guess. You know if they went under the Risen banner, 2086 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 2: would it have the same distribution? I don't think so. 2087 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,000 Speaker 2: So let's just say it. Let's say at forty five 2088 01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,719 Speaker 2: Floyd goes I got one more in me, and let's 2089 01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 2: say he doesn't fear Nate. I don't know if Floyd 2090 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,160 Speaker 2: even would ever want to do this again, but could 2091 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 2: that move one point three million pay per view buys? 2092 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,040 Speaker 1: I would take the under, but not by much. Like, 2093 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,400 Speaker 1: do I really think that could sell one point four 2094 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,519 Speaker 1: one point five? I am skeptical, But do I think 2095 01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:20,599 Speaker 1: it could sell eight nine one one one around that? Yes, yes, 2096 01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 1: I do. I think it would be enormously successful. I 2097 01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 1: think you'd have a million pay per view buys, probably 2098 01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: definitely within the very much in the realm of possibility. 2099 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 1: But one point four one point five seems hot. That's okay? 2100 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,679 Speaker 2: What if what if they announce a three day press tour. 2101 01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:41,000 Speaker 2: In the first stop, Nate slaps Flood in the like 2102 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,080 Speaker 2: Stockton slapped him in the face off at the end 2103 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 2: of it, and like the teams fight each other and 2104 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,640 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, I guess. 2105 01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,680 Speaker 1: I guess one four, one fives on the table. But 2106 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:58,120 Speaker 1: it would be difficult, I don't get me wrong. Like 2107 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:00,479 Speaker 1: they would make money, it would do well. I just 2108 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, anything above a million is that's all. You're 2109 01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:04,439 Speaker 1: asking a lot, that's all. 2110 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 2: And is Floyd shameless at this point or no? 2111 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is what fighting. He's fighting reality to. 2112 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 2: This is what all of our heroes did though all 2113 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 2: the boxing grates did this same thing. Pearl Wrestling, they 2114 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:15,200 Speaker 2: did all this stuff. 2115 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying what they sooys Floyd listen, 2116 01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,640 Speaker 1: Floyd is using what's left of his athleticism in his 2117 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,719 Speaker 1: name to get the biggest checks possible. That's his fucking right, 2118 01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:25,360 Speaker 1: you know. And like we talked about it before, if 2119 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: you don't like it, don't don't watch. But it's actually regulated. 2120 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,800 Speaker 1: Boxing is not some bullshit, you know, jackass stunt. He's 2121 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 1: doing something he's good at and uh yeah, I mean 2122 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't interest me at all, but you know what 2123 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:38,640 Speaker 1: you're getting into if you buy it, So. 2124 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:43,040 Speaker 2: All right, Finally, luke on over Under. The return at 2125 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 2: one hundred and ten thousand views, our glover to share 2126 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 2: a episode of the revamped Room Service Diaries interview series 2127 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 2: is the highest rated one of the twelve episodes we 2128 01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,759 Speaker 2: filmed so far. That's one hundred and ten thousand views. 2129 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,720 Speaker 2: You're over under, though, is nine hundred thousand. In the 2130 01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,599 Speaker 2: total number of views that a John Jones Room Service 2131 01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:09,560 Speaker 2: Diaries episode would produce if recorded ahead of his March comeback. 2132 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,439 Speaker 1: We would pass nine hundred k. I'm certain so. 2133 01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,920 Speaker 2: I thought that instantly, but I looked it up. When 2134 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,160 Speaker 2: Ariel walked around Albuquerque with John many years ago, which 2135 01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,920 Speaker 2: was a big deal, that was like one point one 2136 01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,760 Speaker 2: million views, and then what the last time Ariel had 2137 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,880 Speaker 2: John on his show, which was like four years ago, 2138 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 2: It did I think eight hundred in that area. 2139 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, listen, I don't imagine myself to be 2140 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,200 Speaker 1: that important, but John and I have a little bit 2141 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:41,800 Speaker 1: of history. And then listen, if we got that, I 2142 01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,519 Speaker 1: would go into it being like I understand very fully 2143 01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:45,920 Speaker 1: this is the last time I'm going to talk to 2144 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: this person, right, do. 2145 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,640 Speaker 2: You understand very few of you could get a guillotine. 2146 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,400 Speaker 2: You could fall into a guillotine. Look pretty quickly, he could. 2147 01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:56,800 Speaker 1: He could beat the shit out of me, right, Like 2148 01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:58,280 Speaker 1: he'd beat the shit of both of us, probably at 2149 01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,240 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, if you want to too. 2150 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,200 Speaker 1: But I would treat that interview very much like this 2151 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,559 Speaker 1: is the last time I'm going to talk to him, 2152 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:06,600 Speaker 1: So fuck it, let's just do what we want to do. 2153 01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:07,080 Speaker 1: You know. 2154 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 2: I do also like that fun with him, or you 2155 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 2: would you would not open yourself up to having fun 2156 01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 2: with him though I know. 2157 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,800 Speaker 1: That I'm not interested in having fun with him. 2158 01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,799 Speaker 2: No, all right, maybe maybe this is a bad idea, 2159 01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,080 Speaker 2: but you think it goes over a million You're like, yoh, yeah. 2160 01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 1: I think. I think if you matched if I think 2161 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,639 Speaker 1: if you matched my energy, bro, we had the same vibes. Yeah, 2162 01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:27,400 Speaker 1: we could do it. 2163 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,520 Speaker 2: What if I What if What if we we bombarded 2164 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,040 Speaker 2: John and turned it into a live High Court episode 2165 01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,640 Speaker 2: and we were debating each other Luke and I. That 2166 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,679 Speaker 2: would be great, you know, and John, and John realizes 2167 01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,559 Speaker 2: I'm a sympathizer of him, and then you know him 2168 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 2: and I attack you that'd be wonderful. 2169 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,640 Speaker 1: That's that's always your dream. Your dream is to have 2170 01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,639 Speaker 1: a famous fighter on. So the two of you could 2171 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 1: gang up on me. That's really been a lifelong pursuit 2172 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:49,439 Speaker 1: of yours. 2173 01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:52,959 Speaker 2: I've noticed it's a podcast gang No Gang. 2174 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:53,800 Speaker 1: Podcast, Gang Bangs. 2175 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 2: Would we shouldn't go there. We shouldn't go there? 2176 01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:56,320 Speaker 1: All right? 2177 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 2: Hey, no, that that's you're over under for the week. 2178 01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 2: No fan subs, apparently, Mikey says, we all got a 2179 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:01,120 Speaker 2: couple of great ones. 2180 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so let me let mek we we should tell 2181 01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,679 Speaker 1: the audience this, so it's not like we're not getting 2182 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:11,519 Speaker 1: fan subs. We are, guys, you have our ladies. You 2183 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:17,360 Speaker 1: have to make the fan subs playable to the public. Okay. 2184 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: So if your fan subs involve violence, misogyny, uh, murder, rape, torture, racism, 2185 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:34,120 Speaker 1: or that, we can't fucking use it, man, we can't 2186 01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,120 Speaker 1: use it. So there's like a whole the cutting dude, 2187 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:41,640 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor, you've seen the cutting room floor wild. 2188 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 2: Mikey will text us these and I'll just be like wow. 2189 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,680 Speaker 1: I'll be like, what the fuck is that? You know? Uh, 2190 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,280 Speaker 1: please stop, please stop doing that. We can't air them. 2191 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,360 Speaker 1: If you don't make them palatable, they have to be 2192 01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,439 Speaker 1: palatable to the public. 2193 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,800 Speaker 2: Have you seen this ship? I mean, come on, you 2194 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 2: know exactly. 2195 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's rind up when we want to be 2196 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,519 Speaker 1: both palatable and risky at the same time. You can 2197 01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 1: catch that live in attendance February eighth. It'll be BC 2198 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,040 Speaker 1: lt D. H Dan Hardy's going to be there as well. 2199 01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe some other folks will see February eighth, King's Place 2200 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:14,680 Speaker 1: in London. Get your tickets now. We're in the home 2201 01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 1: stretch of tickets. This is it time to get them now, 2202 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:19,439 Speaker 1: please please, please do that. If you are so inclined, 2203 01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:21,599 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you there. One time deal. It's 2204 01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 1: grand opening, grand closing. Come see us BC. Showtime is 2205 01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 1: the label that pays for You can go to showtime 2206 01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 1: dot com get a thirty day free trial. If you'd 2207 01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 1: like it, you can keep it. If not, you can 2208 01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:34,160 Speaker 1: bounce Morning Combat at gmail dot com for let's see 2209 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,719 Speaker 1: Friday's dead wrong and BC are we putting the resume 2210 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 1: review out tomorrow? So tomorrow or next week? 2211 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:41,640 Speaker 2: Dude? We should put it out tomorrow, can we? 2212 01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:46,559 Speaker 1: I believe? Yes? Yes? Eleven am, eleven am tomorrow so 2213 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,760 Speaker 1: eleven am in the East tomorrow we're gonna have our 2214 01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,880 Speaker 1: fatal or a million inco resume review. It's I'm told 2215 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 1: it's came out after editing quite good. 2216 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,640 Speaker 2: And I wanted to I can't wait if you just 2217 01:39:57,640 --> 01:39:59,400 Speaker 2: announced it, fade or let's do it. This is I 2218 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,880 Speaker 2: mean fatal, right, We're gonna be talking Pride, Pride's greatest 2219 01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:06,800 Speaker 2: hits basically. Okay, let's check in and check that out. Also, Luke, 2220 01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 2: we would be remiss if we had mentioned Morningcombat Dot 2221 01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 2: store because not only do we have great merch there 2222 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 2: ore j Ballbagger there, the the uh the the merch 2223 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,439 Speaker 2: maven there, Luke. He also has three new shirts, including 2224 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,160 Speaker 2: a brand brand new one today UK related. So MK 2225 01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:28,840 Speaker 2: in the UK, as we know, February eighth is gonna 2226 01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,040 Speaker 2: be a thing. It's gonna be a big thing. But 2227 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:35,360 Speaker 2: you can also be outfitted in merch that celebrates our arrival. 2228 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 2: And there's like the there's like the British invasion in reverse. Luke, Okay, 2229 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,720 Speaker 2: right now, this is great. We're coming. I'm coming. 2230 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how many people tell me 2231 01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 1: it's football not soccer, Like I give a fuck, you 2232 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: know what, I. 2233 01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,840 Speaker 2: Hope they show up and be like, look, you you 2234 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 2: disrespected our cuisine here. I made this for you, Luke. 2235 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,479 Speaker 2: It's it's filled with pot you know. It's great. 2236 01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:00,160 Speaker 1: Though it's some guy also ejaculated in his land here 2237 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,840 Speaker 1: and didn't tell me. You know, I might eat it 2238 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 1: at the hotel later. Who's to say, you know? I 2239 01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know. By the way it said like you know 2240 01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,400 Speaker 1: how I was calling yerie like yeasy or easy. He's 2241 01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:10,720 Speaker 1: done a. 2242 01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 2: Lot of ridiculous pronunciation moves. 2243 01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm just completely fumbling in the dark. I understand that, 2244 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 1: I get it. But now that he did the I 2245 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,599 Speaker 1: Am Coming video, can we just call him jizzy? We just, 2246 01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, can just get right to the point, Yeah. 2247 01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 2: Old Jizzy. Yeah, I don't, I don't know. 2248 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's my thing. It doesn't work, that's 2249 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,559 Speaker 1: my thing. Now, all right, all right, we can leave 2250 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 1: that one for again. Cutting room floor. You see there 2251 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:33,719 Speaker 1: my pants? 2252 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 2: Look, you want to you want to? You want to? 2253 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 2: You want to land this thing? 2254 01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, let's land this plan. All right. That's b 2255 01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,599 Speaker 1: c im l T. We'll be back on Friday. We'll 2256 01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,559 Speaker 1: talk more. By the way, Archurberterbia fight against Anthony yard 2257 01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:44,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna preview with that on Friday, so join us 2258 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,599 Speaker 1: for that and uh Ford Malca for showtime for CBS 2259 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,080 Speaker 1: Sports and everyone else involved. We're out of here until 2260 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: next time. May all of your games be loyal.