WEBVTT - Million Dollar Decisions

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kranler and Michael Coughlin and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>her radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it feel to be with a cougar?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? I love it. And now this is where you

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<v Speaker 3>say I'm four years older than you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I'm thirty seven years old, which means I'm four.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm technically now a cougar.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that the cutoff age?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think, honestly, cougar is like ten years older.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like to think of myself as a cougar.

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<v Speaker 2>But thirty seven just sounds so old, Like I remember

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<v Speaker 2>going to my mom's like surprise thirtieth birthday as a

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<v Speaker 2>little girl, and I'm like thirty seven. Woolf. Oh it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading my DMS too, and someone was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go. I thought Michael was an ex professional

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<v Speaker 2>hockey player until I saw the video of the All

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<v Speaker 2>pline hockey and then it confirmed that, Oh no, it

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<v Speaker 2>was football.

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly was a nice that was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael did a great birthday for me, went ice skating.

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<v Speaker 2>He runted out this like it's like a half rink

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<v Speaker 2>in a in a sense. Yeah, it's like a hockeys

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<v Speaker 2>hockey school camp. But they also runt out the ice,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we played hockey, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Running for two hours. Yeah, it's like a it's called

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<v Speaker 3>the Hockey Lab in Franklin, and it was awesome. So

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<v Speaker 3>we had him set up the hockey nets and we

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<v Speaker 3>had a bunch of pucks out there and Jan and

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<v Speaker 3>I were doing passengers and playing one on one and

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<v Speaker 3>then we had Jolly join us for the last hour,

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<v Speaker 3>which was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Which, by the way, I got a little hate because

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<v Speaker 2>Jolie wasn't wearing a helmet. Is she supposed to wear

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<v Speaker 2>a helmet like I was. I didn't wear helmet when

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<v Speaker 2>I started. I learned how to skate when I was five,

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<v Speaker 2>same age as almost Jolly, and I didn't wear a helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, did I even have a car seat

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<v Speaker 2>when I was fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, exactly whatever people are going to say, whatever they

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<v Speaker 3>want to say. She was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a good skater.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If I mean Jace, I would for sure put a

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<v Speaker 2>helmet because he doesn't know how to say right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he falls over every two seconds. But no, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean whatever, we were there, she was fine. If it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a group setting, there's more people to like

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<v Speaker 3>run into her, but she was We saw her fall

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple of times, and she was in control

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<v Speaker 3>of her falls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she knew to fall on her butt, right, It's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she was Yeah, she knew how to fall. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like she was just feet out from under straight unto

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<v Speaker 3>her back, her head.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't know though, if I would have the

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<v Speaker 2>like if I was a person. I mean I am

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<v Speaker 2>a person, but like I don't know if I would

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<v Speaker 2>look at someone saying and be like, oh, your kid

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<v Speaker 2>should be wearing a helmet. But then again, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I did it that one time when we went

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<v Speaker 2>and saw Jurassic Park, there was a three year old

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<v Speaker 2>watching the movie and she was like scared, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what mother would bring a child here?

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<v Speaker 3>We were watching Sons of Anarchy the other day and

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<v Speaker 3>you're and they showed Jack's crib. She's like, there are

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<v Speaker 3>so many things wrong with that crib.

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<v Speaker 2>There actually was they not accurate? It was a baby

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<v Speaker 2>and it was able to roll over, and it had blankets,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I'm like, Sid's people right exactly. And then

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<v Speaker 2>now that the baby's older, the crib needs to be lowered.

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<v Speaker 2>Like whoever was the script person on Sons of Anarchy?

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<v Speaker 2>Which by the way, you know, amazing show, our favorite show.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, there's gotta be careful. So yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I am kind of like that person. I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell the person even better, even.

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<v Speaker 3>Better, speaking of no, that's stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>What Monopoly kills all marriages?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that was a great way to end the night,

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<v Speaker 3>playing Monopoly against each other with your spouse.

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<v Speaker 2>So fun, which, by the way, we're going to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't finished it yet, but we go. And here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, you just landed on board walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing with two people is damn near impossible because you

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<v Speaker 3>need a third party to kind of be Switzerland when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to trading trading properties.

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<v Speaker 2>I played it. I think I played it really smart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I FD myself just to move along the game.

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<v Speaker 2>No you didn't. I got those three properties the Purple

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<v Speaker 2>put houses on it before you even had like a

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<v Speaker 2>three because you were passing up those don't pass up

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<v Speaker 2>the cheap opportunities, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're a house poor no anymore anyway, So we

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<v Speaker 3>but we made it out without fighting, shocking, which is successful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>only because he's your birthday. I think any other day

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<v Speaker 3>I go like this is speaking of other relationships. Oh oh,

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<v Speaker 3>so current events going on right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh are you bringing in the didn't didn't? Didn't didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Michael Cosson with Pop Current Events.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah TMZ. NBA star Malik Beasley's wife Montana Yao reacts

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<v Speaker 3>to photos of him and Larsa Pippen holding hands.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry he has a wife.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and he's blatantly holding hands with another woman in

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<v Speaker 3>this picture at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and she okay, I'm ready this and then the

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<v Speaker 2>wife comments, wow, I don't even know this man. The

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<v Speaker 2>model twenty three wrote on her Instagram stories, this is wild, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing it for the first time. Like y'all, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I I had. I was just reading

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<v Speaker 2>this thing on us weekly because on Instagram and the

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<v Speaker 2>Pip and Girl. Okay, I know, I know the story.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pip and Girl just wrote back and said something

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<v Speaker 2>about salt, like don't believe everything you read on social media,

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<v Speaker 2>like basically calling out the wife like she knew this

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<v Speaker 2>was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's how That's what I got from the message.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're like, that's ballsy holding hands in like

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<v Speaker 2>a mall, it's one thing to be coming out like

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<v Speaker 2>a I mean it's not okay, not okay at all,

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<v Speaker 2>but coming out of a bar drunk like he's very

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<v Speaker 2>aware that moment they look like they're at a mall

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<v Speaker 2>holding hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the airport.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet we're not just that that. You gotta be really

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<v Speaker 3>stupid to beat to do that. Yeah, so maybe there

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<v Speaker 3>is something behind the scenes that his wife is like

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<v Speaker 3>plain innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, But didn't you say something about that

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<v Speaker 2>girl though? Because I don't know who that girl? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who any of these people are.

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<v Speaker 3>Larsa Pippen is Scottie's Pippin's ex wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Scottie Pippen, Hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Fame basketball player for the Bulls, Oh, Jordan and Pippen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the name sounds familiar, but I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 2>then who's the guy she's holding hands with? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>He's a basketball player.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so she's like a basketball Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just I feel like I've heard her name,

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<v Speaker 3>like another headlines similar to this or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's a homewrecker.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I've heard her name.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a song by Miranda home record. That's not that's

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, what's not? Miranda Limbert was her name. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you know what you're doing. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to Brulin what you got Easter? But you're not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just a home record. Come on, that's a good

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<v Speaker 2>country song. Who sings that? Easton? You're my country?

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<v Speaker 4>Did?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>S Gretchen Wilson. Thank you? It's a good song. And

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<v Speaker 2>then did you see the other stuff? Sorry? I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to since I'm talking on country right now, because

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<v Speaker 2>she kind of had she dabbled in country.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, let's talk about that. But first we have

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<v Speaker 3>our amazing guest, Rachel Rogers, who is the CEO of

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<v Speaker 3>Hello seven, which her whole mission is all about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>impowering women to become millionaires essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. She's got an amazing website, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>cool stuff, very successful lawyer and entrepreneurs. So let's take

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<v Speaker 3>a break and then have Rachel.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Rachel, how you doing? How good? How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 6>Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for coming on the show with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you live?

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<v Speaker 1>I live in North Carolina, Greensboro.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say wherever you're at right now

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<v Speaker 2>looks really pretty and just like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really pretty. I just want a fifty three acre

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<v Speaker 1>ranch in the middle of a pandemic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes you did, Oh my gosh, fifty three acres. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have horses?

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, we have a beautiful horse barn. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have horses yet. We're actually in the process of acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>our first horses. So all I do every day is

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<v Speaker 1>research horses.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry this is so random, but horses, like they really

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<v Speaker 2>they like they know what's going on in you.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very smart, and I feel like they're therapeutic to

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<v Speaker 1>be around, you know, and right now, like it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few things that I can get my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>like my kids can do and like be outside, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So how many kids.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you have?

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<v Speaker 1>I have four?

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<v Speaker 2>What are their ages?

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<v Speaker 1>So my three little ones are nine, seven, and two,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I have a twenty year old stepdaughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, bite the range? How is? How is having four kids?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot? But I have to say, like, going

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<v Speaker 1>from as you guys already know, right, going from one

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<v Speaker 1>to two is like you feel like a train hit

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<v Speaker 1>you, you know, because you're like, holy crap, Like I was

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<v Speaker 1>up all night with one and now this one's hungry,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't got time for that. I want to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So but then you know, once you start adding after that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like whatever, you could add three more and it

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<v Speaker 1>won't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to know.

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<v Speaker 3>I like it because we're we're considering a third right now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to go talk to a doctor here soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Ganas like, well, if we have three.

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<v Speaker 4>Four, I'm like, I'm kind of with you, to be honest, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>my husband got the snipsies after our last one, and

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<v Speaker 4>we've both had the thought like, huh, I would totally

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<v Speaker 4>consider having another one, especially now that we have this

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<v Speaker 4>big ass property.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like, we need a football field of like

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<v Speaker 2>a team now, like you need help with the chores,

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<v Speaker 2>like who's gonna hey all the barrel up, all the

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<v Speaker 2>hayze or whatever exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is my husband's fourth, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, I'm done, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, so how do you Because your whole thing is

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<v Speaker 2>like we can all be a millionaire, right, yes, so

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<v Speaker 2>how do we do that? Because I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>be so that would be great. What's what's the first

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<v Speaker 2>step in going down that road?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I think the first step is stop making

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<v Speaker 1>brokeass decisions and start making million dollar decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, like, what give me an awesome example.

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<v Speaker 1>So brokeass decisions are the ones where you know they're constricting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they steal your time and energy, they deplete mental space,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of get you busy with pitoli, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they seem like million dollar decisions like oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put all this effort into saving some money, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not hire help around the house. Let's all do

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<v Speaker 1>it all ourselves. We can save money. But it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you but is that going to help you make money?

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<v Speaker 1>Like cleaning up after your kids all day or not

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<v Speaker 1>having like like we have a chef, right, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the best thing I've ever spent money on

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<v Speaker 1>in my life was like finding this chef and hiring

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<v Speaker 1>them because that's what took up all my time, is

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<v Speaker 1>like cooking and fighting with my husband and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like passive aggressively, like banging pots around the kitchen while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cooking because I'm pissed that I have to do

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<v Speaker 1>this after a long work day. Anybody ever been there,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, so it could be like, well, let

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<v Speaker 1>us save money and we'll do all that stuff ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a brokeass decision because if you

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to make money doing right like posting

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast or teaching a class or doing workshops or

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<v Speaker 1>events or any starting businesses right, then free up your time,

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<v Speaker 1>hire someone to help you up your time. Spend a

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<v Speaker 1>little money up front, because the payoff is huge. You

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<v Speaker 1>freed up a bunch of your time that you can

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<v Speaker 1>now spend making money right. And so that would be

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollar decision, like hiring a chef was a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar decision that we made, you know. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think especially women are always making decisions. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is the money messages that are sent to us is

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<v Speaker 1>like contract right, like ooh, stop shopping, you know, stop

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<v Speaker 1>buying that latte, right, Like it's always about like it

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<v Speaker 1>sends the message that women are shopaholics, that we can't

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<v Speaker 1>control ourselves with money, that we need to cut coupons

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<v Speaker 1>and do more with less. And men get the messages

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, be a power investor, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, step into your prowess. Like there's always like

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<v Speaker 1>an image of a lion or something. Right. For men,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like go out there, take risks, make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reality is is that you can cut coupons

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, You're not going to save so much

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<v Speaker 1>money that it actually puts you in a different tax bracket,

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<v Speaker 1>right like it you can't save your way to being

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire, right Like, Really, what we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking to people about is earning more and what are

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<v Speaker 1>the ways that we can do that. How can we

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<v Speaker 1>spend more of our time earning more and really step

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<v Speaker 1>into our talents and skills, capitalize on that scale, on

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<v Speaker 1>what we're good at, and that's what's actually gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>us become millionaires.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 3>You know when I was looking at your stuff, Rachel,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna read your mission shape, your mission statement,

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<v Speaker 3>because mission statement, your mission statement for everyone to hear.

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<v Speaker 3>Because as soon as I read it, I thought of

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<v Speaker 3>Janna Okay in this way, and I don't think she's

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<v Speaker 3>read it yet, but here it is for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Rachel's mission is to help women hit seven figures without

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<v Speaker 3>sacrificing their families. Insanity. I'm an entrepreneur and I'm a mother.

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<v Speaker 3>I run a seventh figure business, and I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>front row of every dancer title. I'm picking my kids

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<v Speaker 3>up from school every day. I'm watching Peppa Pit cartoons

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<v Speaker 3>in bed on Sunday mornings. If you've ever seen me

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<v Speaker 3>speak at an event, chances are my three children. We're

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<v Speaker 3>in the front row. When people tell me you have

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<v Speaker 3>to choose which family and business? I say both. Hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that is our kind of girl right there. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>it makes me think of Janna, because that's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Janna has that mindset. I'm trying to keep up with

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<v Speaker 3>her and so to to listen and experience women like

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<v Speaker 3>you'allselves and to be successful in business. I love the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that it's almost like having your cake and eat

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<v Speaker 3>it too, right, You're not You don't have to choose

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<v Speaker 3>that house life to be around the kids and then

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<v Speaker 3>sacrifice work. So, you know, my thing is when people,

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<v Speaker 3>when women out there are anybody who may be the

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<v Speaker 3>one the primary caregiver for the kids, what's that first

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<v Speaker 3>step for them to be like? Look, by doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>you can actually spend more time with them. By doing this,

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<v Speaker 3>you can set yourself up better. How do you get

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<v Speaker 3>someone encourage a woman or anybody to take that leap?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I think to start, we have to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of change our philosophy around parenting and especially motherhood because

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<v Speaker 1>again right, like, so we can't win as women, right

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<v Speaker 1>because not only do we have to be like super

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<v Speaker 1>hot and sexy, but we also need to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the things for our children, right and like we're not

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<v Speaker 1>good mothers if we don't, and also do more with

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<v Speaker 1>cut coupons while we're at it, right, and so like

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<v Speaker 1>that's these ideas about what womanhood is and what motherhood is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to start challenging them. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't do my children's laundry. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>cook for them ever, Like I never make them a mail.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe on a Sunday I will heat up some soup,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, other than that, I'm not cooking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the sort of like labor related to parenting I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing. However, I do read to them every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I spend quality time with them. I'm making decisions about

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<v Speaker 1>their education and their homeschooling now so like their homeschooling

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<v Speaker 1>plan right, and creating opportunity for them of of course

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<v Speaker 1>very involved in like their health and well being and

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<v Speaker 1>what they eat. I'm making those parental decisions. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do all of the labor to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good parent, you know, and in fact, by eliminating

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that labor, I'm actually able to spend

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<v Speaker 1>quality time with them where I'm done with work and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to go cook or clean or do

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. I get to just immediately sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>them and like play a game, read books, watch a

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<v Speaker 1>show together, you know. And I think that's how you

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<v Speaker 1>do that is that's like, you know, people ask me

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, like how do you do it all?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't. I hire other people and they

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<v Speaker 1>help me.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a hell of a delegator.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, master delegator. And that's really what we all need

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<v Speaker 1>to be thinking about, especially as women, right, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>we have careers and I and I explained to my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter because sometimes she's you know, she'll come to like

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<v Speaker 1>my office door and say, you know, like I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to hang out with me, like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>still working or whatever? And I'm like, you know, other

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<v Speaker 1>moms have to like commute to and from work, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to be here all day with you. I

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<v Speaker 1>get to eat lunch with you and breakfast with you

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<v Speaker 1>every day. We have so much quality time together and

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<v Speaker 1>like you got to contribute, right, We have a nice house,

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<v Speaker 1>We have a nice life, and your contribution is let

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<v Speaker 1>me finish working and you go clean your room or

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<v Speaker 1>you go occupy yourself until I'm done, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have quality time together. So I want my children

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<v Speaker 1>to know that, like, yes, this nice life that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all creating, you're a part of that, and you need

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<v Speaker 1>to contribute to that too. Like sometimes it's putting the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, setting the table for dinner, and sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>leaving mommy alone so she can finish working so she

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<v Speaker 1>can make the money that creates this life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what about for the women that are stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation where they feel like they can't have

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<v Speaker 2>other people do it because it might not be to

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<v Speaker 2>the standards they want it done at. You know, like

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I don't like how Mike folds the laundry,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm like, I then feel like I have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, and so or and and you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>there're gonna be other situations too. But it's like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you when when you want to release those things

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<v Speaker 2>but you're too afraid of releasing the control of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well this is this is the step, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>releasing the control creates freedom and I get this all

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<v Speaker 1>the time because one of the first things what I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people to start with cause you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start with outsourcing having a chef, right, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was broke as a joke when I started my business,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So what I started with was laundry. I

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<v Speaker 1>started outsourcing laundry and it was like, you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>bucks right to like have somebody else do that week's laundry.

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<v Speaker 1>And that saved me like a whole weekend of like

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<v Speaker 1>doing laundry. And so, you know, if they didn't fold

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<v Speaker 1>it the way I wanted, then I would tell them

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<v Speaker 1>how I wanted it folded. And then if they didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like they use like this regular detergent and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, no, I want the like organic, environmentally

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<v Speaker 1>friendly like stuff, you know, So I would give them that.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what that does, right, It turns us into

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<v Speaker 1>leaders when we have to delegate to other people, tell

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<v Speaker 1>them exactly how we want things done, tell them when

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<v Speaker 1>they do it wrong, learn how to communicate with them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. That's what leadership is. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the sooner that people outsource hire a personal

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<v Speaker 1>assistant send out their laundry start like just how having

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<v Speaker 1>small tasks that take up their time outsource they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to step into leadership because they're gonna learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>lead other people. You know. That means you do have

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of let go of like, Okay, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>not perfect every time, but you want them to get

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<v Speaker 1>it like eighty percent of the way that you want

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<v Speaker 1>it like eighty percent right, and accept that as like

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<v Speaker 1>that's good enough so that you can be free to

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<v Speaker 1>be out here being a millionaire.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, no, I get that. I think the hard thing

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<v Speaker 2>just personally is just like asking for help, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like I can do it all, even

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<v Speaker 2>though there are days where it's just like I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>tired and maybe I'm not the best mom because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so exhausted by all those things, which then affects, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, like you're able to do all these things

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<v Speaker 2>and then be like really present with your kids and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like after I'm busy and doing stuff and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's like, oh okay, it's almost like, oh gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>now I have not that like I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with them, but I want to. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>exhausted by the time that I get to that time

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<v Speaker 2>to be with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and like a special in the age of COVID nineteen, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's happening for so many women where we're exhausted,

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<v Speaker 1>and like America is relying on women to home, educate

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<v Speaker 1>these children, maintain the household, still make money by showing

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<v Speaker 1>up to work on zoom, Like it is really challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are stats showing that, like hundreds of thousands

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>of women are leaving their careers because they just it's

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<v Speaker 1>too much and it's exhausting for them, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not good for your mental health. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's how you start to get back to

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<v Speaker 1>that place of sanity, Like we have to reject the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we need to do at all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the only way to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get back to that. What can a man, husband or

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<v Speaker 2>partner do to lift their wives or partners up to

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<v Speaker 2>encourage them to get to that you know, seven seven

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<v Speaker 2>figure happy life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I think one of the first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's lots of stats that show that even

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<v Speaker 1>when the woman is the breadwinner, that men still don't

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<v Speaker 1>do as much domestic work as women do, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not sure, that's not true for every household,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's true for a lot of them. We just naturally,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, like I can do it all, so

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<v Speaker 1>I am right, and so we just have that natural

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>inclination to do it and we're not gonna wait. We're

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>just gonna get it done. We're not gonna argue with

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<v Speaker 1>our husbands every day. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like when Mike, when when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the laundry, He's like, I put it in, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and by the time I go to forward it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's already forwarded, folded and put away. And I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because like we have you know, are just our times, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like the man tries, but it's just the

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<v Speaker 2>woman's already like is there before you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's exactly what you were saying with like asking

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<v Speaker 1>for help, right and saying like, Hey, I have this

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.680
<v Speaker 1>big vision, I have this dream, I have this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm working on in my career, and I need

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<v Speaker 1>your help. I need your support, and you know, here's

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<v Speaker 1>what you can do to help me. And tell them specifically,

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, because my husband when we I was building

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>my business and my husband was staying home at home

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.239
<v Speaker 1>with the kids because he hated his job and I

0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 1>loved my job and like was creating more and more opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you stay home with these kids,

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<v Speaker 1>let me do my thing, and like we'll be golden,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so he's like awesome, and he's like military.

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He has got timers going on whole day, like, oh,

0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>laundry's done. Oh time to pick up this one, you know,

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.440
<v Speaker 1>like time for this one to eat. And so he's

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<v Speaker 1>very much more organized than I ever was. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that helped, and that worked, and there were still times

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>where we would get unbalanced, but I would just ask

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.639
<v Speaker 1>him for help and ask for his support and tell

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<v Speaker 1>him exactly what I needed. And there were times where

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>he had to come to me and be like, you know,

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you're working and stuff, but like on the

0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>weekends you could step it up.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's the one telling me, like, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do better. And and there were times where he was

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.480
<v Speaker 1>just like walking around passive aggressive. I knew was pissed.

0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about what. I had no idea, Like

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I really felt clueless because I was just so busy

0:23:01.960 --> 0:23:04.439
<v Speaker 1>doing my own thing. And until he specifically spelled it

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 1>out and said this is what I want you specifically

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.159
<v Speaker 1>to do. I was like, okay, done, but he was

0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.119
<v Speaker 1>mad at me because I didn't automatically know. And I

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think we as women do that a lot too, right.

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>We're like, I just need you to know. I just

0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>need you to know what I want obviously, I want

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>you to do that, right, And it's like it's not

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 1>obvious to them for whatever annoying reason. So we got

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to spell it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes you did. We're simple creatures. Just tell us straight

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>up and we'll do it. You know, we just need direction, Rachel,

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:35.719
<v Speaker 3>has it ever been because admittedly, to be honest, you know,

0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Janna's the breadwinner in our relationship and has been pretty

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.879
<v Speaker 3>much since the beginning when we were together, because I

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<v Speaker 3>was just coming out of football and I've had my

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<v Speaker 3>moments and still have my moments of insecurity, a feeling

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 3>like I'm not man, like those old time thoughts of

0:23:57.600 --> 0:23:59.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a man because I'm not providing for my family.

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 3>I wish I could do more. I you know, you know,

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I have these thoughts. Even though she will say, you know,

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 3>motivating things to me or positive things to me, I'll

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 3>still feel that way. Internally. So have you and your

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 3>husband dealt with that overcome that, Like, what's been that time?

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:16.239
<v Speaker 2>Nay?

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Make definitely, you know, he's you know, And I think

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>it's because it's just not a precedent for it, right,

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not it wasn't as common. It's becoming a

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:29.320
<v Speaker 1>lot more common actually now, but for a long time,

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that's not what we were taught when we were kids, right,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 1>we were taught like dad goes out to work, Mom

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>does like the house stuff, and even if mom has

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a job, she's still the one that you're kind of

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>relying on, you know, when you come home from school.

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.680
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that's why it's kind of challenging.

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>But I think you just have to work through it

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>together and be frequently communicating about it. And so that's

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>what my husband and I have done, and I think

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it was also here was one of the things that

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:54.919
<v Speaker 1>was super important for us, that was crucial in our

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>relationship and like created a turning point with the whole

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.399
<v Speaker 1>breadwinner issue, and that was like he he needed to

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>have his own money because I brought in literally one

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of our income, right, and so he felt

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.959
<v Speaker 1>like he was spending my money all the time, and

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 1>it was really and like he loves cars, he wants

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>to buy car parts, he wants to work on his cars.

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 3>He was, yeah, that's how I am. I'm a tinkerer,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 3>yes exactly.

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And so he felt like he couldn't do that because

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's just for him, it's not for the family.

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And so he was like not saying that he wanted that,

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>but like putting it off and obviously upset about because

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I sacrifice so much. I work so hard

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 1>for this family. I do so much for us, and

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I can enjoy my life because I

0:25:38.520 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have my own money. And I'm like, okay, well,

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like let's get you your own money then, And we

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.119
<v Speaker 1>literally created a separate bank accounts, so we have like

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the main joint account where all of our money goes

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>in together, you know, like all of my income and

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.439
<v Speaker 1>if he has stuff that goes on from time to

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>time where he has money come in, and then he

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>we have two separate bank accounts with like our play right,

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>and so like there's a separate amount that's like automatically

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>transferred into those two separate checking accounts. It's like Rachel's

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>money and Dediaco's money and like so then he had

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>his little his play money so he could do his thing,

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and he was so much happier it was insane. I'm like,

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I would have happily spent this money years ago, and

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you told me, I'm glad you're happier, Like it's less

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>of an issue, you know, And I think it's just

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>important that everybody knows, like here's how I'm valued, Here's

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>how I'm adding value to our family life. You know,

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>everybody needs to feel that, otherwise you feel crappy, you know.

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>So I think having those conversations and just making sure

0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like and for me, like I had to say more often,

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>like I really appreciate what you did with the kids.

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate how you took care of whatever. Like

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 1>we just did a renovation here when we moved in

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.239
<v Speaker 1>to the ranch, and like he handled all of that.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.119
<v Speaker 1>He dealt with all the plumbers and all the things,

0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't have to do with that. And I

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 1>have to say that member to say, like I appreciate you,

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and I need him to do the same for me, right,

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Like That's that's an important part of it. So and

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.920
<v Speaker 1>also therapy, you know, like therapy helps.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.399
<v Speaker 3>To Oh yeah, we're big advocates about that. Yeah, I

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 3>was just I was just gonna ask you, does he reciprocate,

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, his gratitude to what you do as well,

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 3>because like you said, that's I mean, it's equally as important.

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is. I think he does. And I mean

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>we could both do it more, right, Like we could

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 1>both be better about it. It's so funny. I had

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a friend who's a business owner, and she used to say,

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 1>like her team needs to hear her praise and compliments

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>from time to time, right, And so she had a

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.400
<v Speaker 1>reminder in her phone for like every Friday, give out

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>cookies is what it was called. It was a reminder

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.399
<v Speaker 1>for her to like, oh, let me give out some

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>compliments to people, like everybody on my team. And I

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>feel like we should do that, Like we should just

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>all put reminders on our phones, like like let me

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>compliment my partner about something.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Affirmation Fridays. Baby, let's do it.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yea, that's exactly.

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 2>We kind of started that every day just saying like

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.400
<v Speaker 2>what we're grateful for each other.

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we found ourselves starting the day almost feeling

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:15.119
<v Speaker 3>like enemies. Yeah, like because we're in a rut there

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 3>for a while, and we're like, what you know, so

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 3>the littlest things could just set us off or push

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>us away. When it's like and I think it's been

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>helpful the last few weeks. He's like waking up in

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 3>the morning and just telling each other, Yeah, what we're

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>grateful for, that we appreciate one another, because then you

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 3>already feel connected, right instead of just a good morning,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I love you. So that's definitely helped us.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it has two for sure.

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I love that it's like a reframe of the day, right,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Like you could start the day being cranky about whatever

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is going on, or you could start the day being grateful.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and for each other, because usually we do make

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 2>each other out to be, you know, the enemy. But

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I will say though, for Mike, like he's he like

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>is so great with a lot of the household stuff,

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>and we really do do it together, like we're we're

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>minus cooking. I don't I can't cook, but.

0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think the two things that are more separate

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 3>is like Jana pretty much does the laundry, especially pretty much,

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 3>and then I do the cooking.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everything else and everything else.

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 3>We just we both do. But those are our lanes

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 3>of expertise.

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>How And it's interesting too because when you say that,

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, gosh, would I love to hire a chef? Like, yeah,

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I would love it. But I think I'm so fearful

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>of you know, I've never I didn't grow up having money.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>My mom worked three jobs, you know, divorced family. It

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>was like if I wanted something, I had to buy it,

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I had to work for it, I had to get it.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>And so now that you know I am seeing income

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and money, I think I'm so afraid to lose the

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>money that I'm afraid to spend it on things that

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:42.360
<v Speaker 2>could potentially help me.

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, see this is a prime example of a

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>broken ass decision, right like, because and I grew up

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the same way like you know we I was embarrassed

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to use food stamps at the grocery store, like hoping

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>my friends didn't come in so that they wouldn't see us,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, So like I definitely had There was no

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>one in my family I had been to college or

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>grad school or any of that, you know, So I

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>had that same story and experience. And you know, I think,

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>here's here's what I want you to look at instead

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of thinking like, well, I don't know, I'm afraid to

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>lose that money. It's almost like by making these sort

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>of decisions that kind of keep us smaller, you're more

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>likely to lose the money that way than you are

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>if you keep building up support, because the more successful

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>you become, the more support you need. And that's the reality.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is why, like you know, like Jeff Bezos,

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure probably the worst example, but like I'm sure

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>he has a whole bunch of staff, right, Like the

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>more and if you think about it, like you're creating

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.719
<v Speaker 1>this sort of microeconomy where all of these people around

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you are benefiting from the work that you're doing. By

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>having a business, by having a podcast, right, by having

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.239
<v Speaker 1>certain things that you're creating in the world. There are

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>other people that benefit from that. So how can you

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>do more of that? Like to like it hurts me

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>to know that you do laundry absolutely not outsource this, And.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>In my mid I'm like, oh, I got like, you know,

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>right before the podcast, I was folding things and getting

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>ready for what I do afterwards, and you know, I

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I just like we're making it obviously work.

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Jannah gets anxiety if she has nothing to do in

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>every single moment. So it's almost like, and I love,

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I might be putting words in your mouth,

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>but it's almost like time is money, right, is what

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 3>you're saying. So if you're wasting time doing those things

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 3>that aren't earning you money, then it's a waste of time.

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It's true though, because I mean there's so many things

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 2>in the day that like I still have a list

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of things that I wish I would have done this

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>year that I'm like, hey, if I maybe didn't do

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the laundry or these certain things, like I would have

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 2>more time to like finally get a blog that I

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>want to start doing, and like, you know, do other

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 2>things that like I could really that could make money,

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, as opposed to me folding the laundry.

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's not just like I'm also a big advocate

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>for self care because I think that's a part of

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 1>making money, right, Like, instead of doing laundry on the weekends,

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>like rest, you know, like actually sleep, like hang out

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.959
<v Speaker 1>with your kids, right, like do whatever restores you so

0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>that you start the week feeling energetic and like maybe

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 1>ready to take on some of those other projects that

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're starting something new, there's more lift involved,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>right versus keeping something going. So I think that's a

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>big part of it as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well as a business coach. I'm curious when there's because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of people that DM me and you know,

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>they either want to be a singer and actress, or

0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>they want to start a business, or they've got this

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>idea or they've got this product, but they're like, you know,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 2>how do I even get started? Or they feel like

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>they don't have the right connections. Are those like what

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 2>do you say to those people to like to it's

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>like do you put all your eggs in one basket

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>or do you keep doing other things and then work

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>your way into the one big basket? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean there is the reality that we have

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>we have to make money, right, So, like if you've

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 1>got a vision or business or a creative endeavor that

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you want to pursue, like that's like a you do

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it as a side hustle while you're running your business,

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's what I did when I was

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 1>like starting my first business. I went to law school,

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I became a lawyer. I really wanted to start my

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>own business because I didn't want to work at a

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>crazy law firm where they like throw staplers at your

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>head and scream at you all day.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, while I was doing like clerking

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<v Speaker 1>for a judge, which was like my first job out

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>of law school, I was like putting my plans in

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>place for starting my own practice. And one of the

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 1>best things I did was start like just connecting with

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>people on Twitter and like meeting them, and then I

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>started a blog to like start to build up an audience, right,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>so like, and then I just emailed everyone that I

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>knew and was like, hey, I'm starting a law practice

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 1>on September one, twenty ten. If you have these kinds

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of legal issues, I can help you do it. And

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I just put myself out there and that's how I

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>got my first three clients. So as soon as my

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>clerkship was over, I had three clients in hand, and

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a lot of money. It's like embarrassing how

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>little I charge them. But then that was enough to

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 1>start to give me momentum and put myself out there

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and then eventually build a website and do other things. Right,

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like we think we need to have like the

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>ten step planned for the next ten years. No, we

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>just have to have the courage to take the first step,

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and what is that? And we also have

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to like walk towards it. We can't just like wait

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>for it to show up, you know. Yeah, we can't

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>wait for it to come our way. You know.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, Rachel, I, first of all, I'm excited for you too,

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>because you have a book coming out on May fourth,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one. It's available for pre order right now.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 2>It's called We Should All Be Millionaires. So I'm going

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 2>to go to Amazon right now and pre order that book.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 2>But just thank you for shedding some light and everyone

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 2>can go to Hello seven dot co to read all

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 2>about Rachel and her mission and all of your work

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're doing. So thank you for just being an

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:03.280
<v Speaker 2>inspiration for women and people out there to keep keep grinding,

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.239
<v Speaker 2>keep grinding, making that money. And but the next time

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I talk to you, Rachel, I'm gonna have a chef. Yes,

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 2>you can't replace laundry.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 3>No more laundry, that would be great.

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't stand folding his socks. He's got so many socks.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>The man wears two pairs of socks on a day.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>So just imagine how many socks I'm having to unfold

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>and refold. Lord Rachel, thank you so much for coming on.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:29.919
<v Speaker 2>Wine down and everyone go get her book. We should

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 2>all be millionaires.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for having me.

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 2>You're so sweet. Thank you. Okay, she is so fun.

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I love her energy. I don't know why it gives

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>me anxiety to like, I'm like, why would I hire

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>someone off for laundry? Like I can just do it,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like because I'm so I

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>don't want to waste not waste money, but because I'm like,

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you can do it all.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 3>You can take over the world.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>You can take over the world.

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I like her her concept though, because it

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 3>is it's just coming down to time is money. And

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 3>if if you're using the time instead of doing laundry

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 3>to be doing something productive, then you're doing it for

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the right reason.

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 3>If you're doing it just not to do it, then

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:23.879
<v Speaker 3>we wouldn't be.

0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I think I just have the mindset, Like I totally

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:28.319
<v Speaker 2>get it and I love it. I think I just

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>have the mindset. I'm like, you can do it all,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and you can save money in.

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 3>The process, but you can also ask for help.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got you, and you got me, and I'm

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>free exactly. I mean you want to, like, we can

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>dress you up in a cute little thing, and you know,

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I can dress up and do the dishwasher and we

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 2>can role play the hell out of this. Yeah. Okay,

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>So you teased the Kelly Clarkson thing earlier, and I

0:36:54.960 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>really don't like want to get into their us. You know,

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. It stinks because I never want

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>us well, I never want people like talking about relationship,

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>but our relationships out there, so it should be a

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 2>topic of conversation. I'm not trying to get in there stuff,

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>like I said, However, I do have feelings around it,

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>and it bothers me.

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 3>What Jana is alluding to is that Kelly's.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>X soon to.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Be ex husband.

0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Is asking for four hundred and thirty six thousand dollars

0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>a month in spousal support. And I brought it up

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to Mike and I was angry, Like I was so angry,

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>and he's like why, He's like, what if what if

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the roles were reversed?

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 3>What's Brandon Brandon block suck.

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's you know, manager, and his dad and was.

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, his dad's married to Reba was they got divorced.

0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 2>When divorced a couple of years ago.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 3>They're married since like the eighties.

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, and Mike brought.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Up a good point like, yeah, if the if the

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 3>roles were reversed.

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And here's what I say to that. I think it's

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I think what he's doing is extremely spiteful. He has money. Yeah,

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's very spiteful because it's not like they've

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 2>been married for years and years and years and years

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.919
<v Speaker 2>and he has been how many years have they been married?

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>For it? Just it just feels very spiteful.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Under ten years.

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>It was like, uh, Easton, can you find out how.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Long twenty twelve.

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Under ten years he has been working? He he has money,

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>I know, like he's again a very successful guy, networks

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 2>from a very successful family.

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Net worth around ten million apparently.

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, he has a lot of money. It feels so

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 2>spiteful that he's going to now take four hundred and

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>thirty six thousand dollars in the money that she has

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>worked her tail off for her fricking seven years. They've

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 2>been married for seven years for her tail off for

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>that just it like, as a woman, that makes me

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.240
<v Speaker 2>cringe inside and I want I'm angry for her because

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not fair. That's not his money. He did not

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>work for that. Like, that's not his money, that is

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>her money that she worked her ass off for.

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 3>All right, let me ask you this, okay, okay, because

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I totally I get your point, I get your your

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 3>energy behind it. Sorry, So you take your stereotypical what

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 3>society thinks is the household roles. Right. You take a

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:46.320
<v Speaker 3>family like that, You take the husband who's making money

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 3>and they realized it would be they would save more

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>money if the wife would just stay at home and

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 3>raise the kids.

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 2>This is a different situation. Huh uh No, I would

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>please continue, but I have a rebuttal for it, right.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 3>And say they get divorced? Okay? Would she not? Because

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 3>what you're saying is Kelly works so hard for that

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 3>money that she like it's unfair for him to take

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 3>what she's earned and worked for. So would it be

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.879
<v Speaker 3>unfair for the housewife or house husband to take what

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 3>their spouse has worked so hard for?

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Brandon hasn't. To my knowledge, Brandon has not stopped working.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>He's makes a lot of money as a manager. Let's take,

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>for example, if it was one of our good friends.

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's just call her Wesley. Let's say that her end M.

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Joseph got divorced. They she quit her job because she

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>decided to be a stay at home mom and raise

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 2>the family, just like what you're saying, and be the

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:53.320
<v Speaker 2>She is entitled to half because she she has held

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the family together. She absolutely is entitled to half because

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 2>they have been married for a long time, A long time. Okay,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they've been married for twenty plus years. Okay, she's entitled

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>to that money. No, go ahead, you're smarking.

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 3>So, which I get because there is legality behind that,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 3>like if you've been married a certain amount of time,

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Like if you've been married like three years, yeah, I

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>don't think someone can necessarily take off, but seven years.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so I have a question for you, okay,

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 2>because like you said, with Rachel, I am technically the

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>breadwinner of the family, right, I truly believe. And this

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 2>is like I remember when we were going through divorced

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>stuff and I was like, he is going to ask

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>for spousal support and I'm going to want to run

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>him over with my car. Like I just remember having

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of being like because it's like if there's

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>some kind of like not pride, but like I'm like,

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I have worked my tailor off and he's going to

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>come now because of his poor decisions that have most

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>likely ended his marriage, he is going to now take

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 2>spousal support from me. And you say you're not, but

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I just can tell by the smirk of your face.

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't, though.

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Lies because you believe that you also have put in

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the work in the miles to have to earn some

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>of that capital, which I don't.

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 3>That's not false, So then you would not saying that.

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 3>And I've even told you this when we're discussing this,

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>not on a podcast, just with one another. I said

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't out of spite, out of principle, just to

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 3>show you that you're not right that I wouldn't do that.

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 3>So I would not take it out of spite. But yes,

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 3>then you think about the relationships out there where maybe

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 3>they haven't been twenty plus years, but the other person

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 3>does sacrifice, make sacrifices so one person can be more

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:05.319
<v Speaker 3>available for opportunities.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, I totally hear you on that. It's

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 2>just if that is the conversation that was had, if

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 2>you've had a conversation saying I'm going to stay home

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 2>because this is going to benefit the household. That's a

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>totally different scenario, one thousand percent different scenario. Then you

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 2>would be I believe that person would be entitled to

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:30.880
<v Speaker 2>having of course spousil support in some kind of check.

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.719
<v Speaker 2>But that is what you have to agree on beforehand,

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Like like if you know, if like you're staying like

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 2>you're not staying home, like you don't have a you know,

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>because you're the state at home dad. You're not a

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>stay at home dad. That's your decision, right.

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 3>But quitting my leaving my medical sales job, regardless of

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 3>other reasons. Part of that was the flexibility because I

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 3>was available, more available to go places with you that

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>you had to do for work to be there with

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>the kids. So you could go to a movie shoot

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>or go film something, or go do music shows and

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 3>bring the kids, or have a travel partner. So that

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 3>was a very high pro on the list of me

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 3>leaving my quote unquote normal job.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.040
<v Speaker 2>Would you like to get a normal job again?

0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 3>No, because then if I do, then it's like, well,

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 3>why do you have to work today? Why can't you

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 3>just like take off and like not go and come with.

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Me say what I would never say that, Mark. I

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 2>need your input on this, buddy good.

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 8>Because I've been chomping at the bit to get.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 5>I look a couple of things, so many thoughts coming

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 5>through my head. One is, it would break my heart

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 5>if you two split up. If you did, I think

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 5>Mike should get spousal support. What I do, I think

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.000
<v Speaker 5>that whichever spouse makes more should help out the other

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 5>one in that situation.

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>For how long I think it does? For how long I.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 8>He does enough for how uh well, I don't know.

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 2>What I would do is I would just give him

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>an amount and say you need to take it or

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:11.360
<v Speaker 2>leave it because I can't I it. I feel like,

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just like Kelly's wealth was established before her marriage. Okay,

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure she made a ton while they were married,

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>for sure, but she was Kelly Clarkston like she has

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 2>what she's Kelly clark Clarkson, Kelly Clarkson, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>she like she she is who she is and so

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and I just don't think like it literally makes me

0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>sick to think that I would that he again would

0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>just be sitting on the sidelines, just getting a check

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 2>and not working. That's not okay with me.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 8>Game again.

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 6>But the example you gave earlier about the wife quitting

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 6>her career to stay home with the kids. There's plenty

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 6>of divorces where the wife has a nanny and sits

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 6>on the couch all day and they get a divorce

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 6>and she takes the rich husband for a ton of money,

0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:10.879
<v Speaker 6>and the reaction from women is get it girl, yeah right.

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Double edged sword.

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 2>That No, it's not, because that's the agreement that you

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>have to have with your spouse. It's if you're if

0:46:19.000 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you're a state at home mom, you don't get a

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:24.319
<v Speaker 2>nanny like that is your job. Your job is to

0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 2>be a stay at home mom and do the thing.

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 8>Family is different.

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:29.520
<v Speaker 7>I mean some it is and some it isn't, and

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.960
<v Speaker 7>it depends on the situation. I think that whoever makes

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 7>the most should help out the other one to put

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 7>no matter what how involved they were in the how

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 7>homemaking or child.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 3>Rearing, because then if ten years down the road, it's like, no,

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 3>this whole time it was my money, even though my

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 3>money was paying for our stuff, Like you could just

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 3>take the rug from out from under them at any

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 3>point in time.

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I think if you go into the marriage you should have.

0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 2>It should be your money, their money, and that's what

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 2>you leave with. Because especially in this kind of situation

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.920
<v Speaker 2>where they both have money, he should take his money,

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>she should take her money. And I feel like he's

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>being spiteful because I have another friend that I hid,

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:18.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, celebrity divorce. She takes her money, he takes

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>his money, and that's just what it is, because it's

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 2>spiteful to go after you know, and she could have

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>gone after him easily, could have gone after him for

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money. Like what I'm genuinely trying to

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 2>say is if two people have money that came into

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.359
<v Speaker 2>the marriage with money and have money, I think they

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:44.399
<v Speaker 2>should just go their separate ways and say, all right,

0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 2>you get this, you get that. But as with this

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>apostle support, it just seems to me. And again I

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know their marriage. I don't know their relationship, but

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I do know that they both make money. It just

0:47:55.000 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>seems to me that it's very spiteful, and that bothers

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 2>me because yes, I am a woman and I work

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:03.840
<v Speaker 2>hard too, and I know how hard she's worked for

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.720
<v Speaker 2>her stuff, and knowing that he from what I've seen

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 2>and know in the industry that he does have money.

0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It just sits very ugly to me.

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you this, Okay, if in our situation, Okay,

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 3>if say I was still playing football and I was

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 3>making the money that I was making, and the same

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 3>things happened in our relationship and we got divorced, would

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 3>you seek.

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Financials If I wasn't, would I be doing what I'm

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 2>doing now?

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.720
<v Speaker 3>Just then if five years ago, five.

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Years ago, here's here's my thing, I would ask for

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:47.760
<v Speaker 2>child support because obviously that's that's different how child support

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Because you're a father, you should pay for child support

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 2>if the mom takes care of the kids. I'm not

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 2>asking for spousal support. I would never. I don't want

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.759
<v Speaker 2>your money. I'm the kind I want. I've worked my

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 2>butt off for. I don't want your money. I want

0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>my money and I and I need that. But child

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>supports different. Everybody has to pay child support. If I

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 2>would have to probably pay essentially child support to you.

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 2>But the spousal support, when two people have money and

0:49:13.239 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>someone goes after it just seems very spiteful. Now again,

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 2>if it's a stay at home mom and you know,

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:22.200
<v Speaker 2>or stay at home dad and that was their agreement

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.959
<v Speaker 2>that they don't work, then I don't. Then of course

0:49:25.000 --> 0:49:28.279
<v Speaker 2>they should. They should get support because that's been there,

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:32.239
<v Speaker 2>that's their thing, that's there. They they're the ones that

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 2>held the family together. They should absolutely be compensated for

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 2>the fact that they couldn't go out and get a job.

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, Mark, what's your question? I want to hear

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:39.319
<v Speaker 3>that well.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:42.640
<v Speaker 5>And also also so just to clarify, you have no

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 5>problem with Brandon getting child support from Kelly.

0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 2>No, because he'll still need you know, because that is

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>just in the court of law. I think where that

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.799
<v Speaker 2>is the child, that money is for the child. Now

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:57.680
<v Speaker 2>if he goes and uses it elsewhere, I don't know

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 2>how that works, but I I I think that every

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 2>if you get divorced, people should pay child support if

0:50:06.640 --> 0:50:10.240
<v Speaker 2>you're But again, here's the thing. She's now the primary person,

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.920
<v Speaker 2>so I don't think she'll have to pay child support.

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know how it works. I really don't

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 2>know like that world too much, but I think absolutely

0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>child support is something you should always pay.

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 5>I think the other element of this and the other

0:50:25.520 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 5>reason people are really upset with Brandon is and again

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 5>we don't know. There does seem to be a general

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 5>perception that he shoulders most of the blame for the

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:37.200
<v Speaker 5>end of that marriage, right.

0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 8>Yes, that seems to be the case. It seems to be.

0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 5>What I'm seeing on social media is people say it's

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.320
<v Speaker 5>his fault and now he's asking for all this money.

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 8>So I get that element of it as well.

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 5>Here's my question for you too, which I think everybody

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 5>listening now is thinking after this conversation this past hour.

0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 8>Do you two have a pre nup?

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:56.200
<v Speaker 4>No?

0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.680
<v Speaker 2>What we have as a post nup. So when we

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>went into our marriage, my business managers in the very

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.480
<v Speaker 2>beginning in management, said you need to get a prenup

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and I said, no, I do not want a prenup.

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to be like that. This is

0:51:14.760 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>us together. And when he went to rehab for the

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 2>sex addiction stuff, I sent him a post up and said,

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 2>you will sign this or I'm out, like because I don't. Yeah, So, yes,

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 2>we technically have a post up.

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, which again I even you said it doesn't

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:45.560
<v Speaker 3>who knows how much weight it holds. But we're not

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 3>planning it on a crossing any of those paths.

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 8>Right, and you understood why she wanted that.

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that in that absolutely. In that moment too,

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 3>I was willing to do anything, and so signing a

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 3>piece of paper was nothing for me. Well, I was like, yeah,

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't give it because I'm not going to put

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 3>ourselves in this kind of situation.

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:08.879
<v Speaker 2>You know where I think, Mark I go and where

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it gets No, how do I say this? Like, I

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like if we were to end the marriage, most

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 2>likely would be because of something from the past had

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 2>come back and a pattern was repeated.

0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Most likely aka most likely be Mike's fault.

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to you.

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Said that in the kindest of ways.

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.080
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to be like, but I mean, you know,

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, no no Incredibles reference. It's such a good

0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 2>part in that movie. I think it would be really

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:54.200
<v Speaker 2>hard for me to then pay him spousal support because

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I didn't want this, and now I'm paying

0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you for your mistakes like it. That's what I think

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.719
<v Speaker 2>is where my anger comes from, because I do love you, sweetheart,

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.080
<v Speaker 2>but you are a very spiteful, mean person at times,

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it would you would absolutely do

0:53:13.160 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 2>what Brainon's doing.

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry you feel that way. I told you I

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 3>would do it out of spite not.

0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 2>To Okay, we have it on record now that why

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't. We can and I know that I can

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:29.799
<v Speaker 2>be too, you know at times we can both be mean,

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:35.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I just I think that's what bothers

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.760
<v Speaker 2>me because it's like, I don't I don't want a divorce.

0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do any of those things. You know.

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, but you know what if it's something

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 2>were to happen and then you were to come climbing

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>up the money tree, I'd be like, Man, I didn't

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 2>want any of this. I don't want separate holidays. That's

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 2>why I stayed married. That literally, Mark, that was the

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>reason why I stayed in the very beginning was because

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, because of his decisions, now I don't get

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 2>to be with my kids on Christmas morning or create No,

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:16.240
<v Speaker 2>how dare you? Like I was out of spite, I stayed.

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 3>But you know what I mean, though I know it's

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 3>not like the same face from like five.

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm sorry, it's just like but it's like, how

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.719
<v Speaker 2>dare you don't get to take that from me? That like,

0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 2>how like no, because of your decisions? I mean, I

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 2>could see how someone would get so angry about that.

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:36.680
<v Speaker 5>I agree, it doesn't seem like the best reason to

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 5>stand in relationship, but I agree one hundred percent there's

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 5>nothing there's no scenario that would make that the desired

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 5>outcome to be sharing holidays like.

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 2>That, I know, and it's just, you know, the messy

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 2>like divorce is just so messy, and I hate it

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:53.279
<v Speaker 2>for Kelly, and I hate it for Brandon again because

0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know their situation. So I'm sorry if we

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 2>even stepped in it. But I think it was more

0:54:58.080 --> 0:54:58.640
<v Speaker 2>just to kind.

0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Of just the principle is what we're talkingalking about. We're

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 3>not even really talking about specifically. Then it's just that

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:05.240
<v Speaker 3>whole principle of the money aspect.

0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 2>But it did just I'm glad. I'm not the only person.

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know if it left other people a little angry,

0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 2>so other people have been heightened about it.

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 8>Oh definitely. I mean, plus, she's America's sweetheart.

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.839
<v Speaker 5>I mean, anything bad happen with the Kelly Clarkson, everyone

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 5>feels bad about it because.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 8>She couldn't be the nice She's the nicest person around.

0:55:21.040 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 8>So I get it.

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.080
<v Speaker 5>I get where people are coming from, especially under the

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 5>circumstances that are rumored.

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I definitely think it's a spiteful move.

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:35.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm not defending it at all, but yeah,

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 3>there's other scenarios too.

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:38.920
<v Speaker 5>Well.

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Here's to hopefully not divorce in twenty twenty one for

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 2>everyone listening, because we want you guys to here we go,

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 2>drum roll, please fight the.

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Good fight, perfect perfect plug.

0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 2>We love you, guys. Thanks for the great Yeah, it

0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:00.600
<v Speaker 2>was fun. I'm excited for I'm excited for Christmas, you are.

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 2>What Mike and I have been doing is we've been

0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.880
<v Speaker 2>watching a Christmas movie every Friday. So on Christmas is

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously Friday. So every Friday this month, sit down with

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.439
<v Speaker 2>your honey and watch a Christmas movie. Al Right, bye, guys.

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 3>See yeah,