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Speaker 1: This is the Colts Free Agent Tracker, a look at

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Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason in the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry radio studio. Here's the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, Matt Taylor. Hey, welcome back into the Free

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Speaker 1: Agent Tracker or podcast series here on Colts dot Com,

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Speaker 1: the Colts Mobile app, and of course, the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: This is our offseason look at some of the Colts

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Speaker 1: in house free agents. I'm Matt Taylor. NFL free agency

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Speaker 1: is coming up in mid March. The Colts will have

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Speaker 1: seventeen players that will become either unrestricted or restricted free

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Speaker 1: agents unless they're resigned first. Earlier this week, we dove

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Speaker 1: into Ashton Dulan and his free agency stock. Today we're

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Speaker 1: breaking down linebacker Bobbio Karak with Lara Overton and JJ Stangovitz.

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Speaker 1: Before we talk about Bobbio, Lara, I want to know

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Speaker 1: Thursday here before the Big Game, the Super Bowl on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: how is Lara consuming the Big Game? Oh? Man, so

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Speaker 1: I get really geeked out. I absolutely love Super Bowl Sunday, Like,

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Speaker 1: regardless of who the teams are. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: the excitement building up too. I love the halftime show.

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Speaker 1: I actually downloaded a Rihanna playlist that I was jamming

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Speaker 1: like all week and long, and then I have um

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Speaker 1: some like prop bets going among some friends on what

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Speaker 1: Rihanna's setlist and who the potential special guests could be

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Speaker 1: to join her on stage. So I'm doing that. I

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Speaker 1: haven't what does your guts say? Yeah? Are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you really interested in this? Yeah? Make it quick? Oh

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Speaker 1: it's not because I won't know it. This is not quick.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've been I spent like so much like

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Speaker 1: So here is what I said, lead with where have

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Speaker 1: you been? Build to Found love with Calvin Harris intro,

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Speaker 1: this is what you came for? To Drake. Drake's on

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Speaker 1: for take care and then you finish it with jay

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Speaker 1: Z and run this town. You're gonna need a few

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Speaker 1: bars of Umbrella in there somewhere. And then also while

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Speaker 1: may take Umbrella all right? Yep, yep. I was in

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Speaker 1: and dated with Umbrella like in two thousand and seven.

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Speaker 1: Is that the right era? Did you? Guys? See? There's

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Speaker 1: there's a great like TikTok video that the Eagles put

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Speaker 1: going out to the practice. They were go out to practice,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, what's your favorite Rihanna songs? So all

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Speaker 1: the guys are singing as they're going out to practice,

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Speaker 1: and uh, one of the guys is like, Umbrella is

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Speaker 1: I don't know what we're gonna do. We might have

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Speaker 1: I can't go to a place where it's like people

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Speaker 1: Like the just chit chat has to be at a minimum. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that saved that for the commercials, right right, yes, yeah, yeah, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: And you know how particular of a person I am

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Speaker 1: at So this all checks out you are, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: all checks out for you. I know, JJ. You strike

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Speaker 1: me as a guy that's already got his wing order in,

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Speaker 1: Like you got forty wings ready for you for pickup

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Speaker 1: around three o'clock on Sunday afternoon, ready to with like

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Speaker 1: So we're doing mini Philly cheese steak Christini's you like

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Speaker 1: know that I've been to I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: amount of time to go at it just seems like

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't think I've been in a

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Speaker 1: I have been to Philadelphia, but every time I was

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen third round pick. Sixteen out of seventeen games

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Speaker 1: things that he was able to do on both sides

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Speaker 1: to back up what you're saying mats A. Last year

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Speaker 1: the Colts, they had one thousand, one hundred forty one

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Speaker 1: Colts only had three linebackers on the field on nineteen

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Speaker 1: if that is what your split is going to be,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Gus Bradley, I went back and

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Speaker 1: They had the fifth fewest plays with three linebackers on

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Speaker 1: is where the NFL is going. This is a Gus

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Speaker 1: lot of five defensive backs minimum on the field, because,

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Speaker 1: by the way, that's how most teams are playing. This

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Speaker 1: isn't exclusive to Gus. If you're going to do that,

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Speaker 1: you're probably not investing in three linebackers. That's just probably

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Speaker 1: not what your business plan is going to look like.

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Speaker 1: You can invest in two and then have you know,

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Speaker 1: player there. I thought e J. Speed did a fantastic

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Speaker 1: guy is a free agent. Serious decisions in line back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you're probably not paying Shack Leonard, Zaire Franklin and

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Speaker 1: They all deserve started money because they're three really good

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Speaker 1: football players. They're starters, right, Bobby Okaka, without question, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's really good stuff. Good breakdown right there, free agency

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Speaker 1: hit right there on Bobby Okak. Well done, guys. We'll

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Speaker 1: do it again next week. I think next week we're

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Speaker 1: taking a look at Dennis Kelly and Matt Pryor in

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Speaker 1: one Free Agent Tracker podcast, and then we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis Lara. That's another intriguing one. What does it

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Speaker 1: all mean with his injury and you know, two really

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Speaker 1: Taikwon next week, so Lara, we'll look forward to that,

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Speaker 1: and also we'll see if all of your halftime show

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Speaker 1: so you can be checking off the old bingo card

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Speaker 1: and I'll make good on my Philly cheesteak in the meantime. Well,

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Speaker 1: JJ can just bring one in for you. That's true,

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Speaker 1: you know, Krostini. Yeah, it sounds more elevated than it

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Speaker 1: actually is. Yeah, it does sounds Philly cheesteak, but it's

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Speaker 1: not a bad get a bag get, so I like

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Speaker 1: it all right. Well, earlier this week, Bill Brooks and

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Speaker 1: Casey Valier they examine Ashton Doolan's free agency profile. Check

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Speaker 1: that out. It's right up right now, I should say,

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Speaker 1: from earlier this week on the website, and again we'll

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Speaker 1: have more audio for you in real time when breaking

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Speaker 1: news happens. Do the Colts have a coach find out

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Speaker 1: for JJ and Lara. I'm Matt Taylor. We'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next week with the Free Agent Tracker podcasts when

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Speaker 1: they continue. Dennis Kelly, Matt Pryor, and also Tae Kwon

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Speaker 1: Lewis coming up next week. Thanks for listening, everybody, have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend. We'll talk to you soon.