1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Can if I am six forty you're listening to the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: App John Cobelt Show. I spoke to him last night, 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson. Here, John was packing even as I spoke 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: to him. It's very exciting. He's got a European itinerary 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: he's going to. Isn't he going to Iceland or something? 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: Also didn't get into it. Deborah, Well, you know, Deborah 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: has a like a situation room back there, tracking John's 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: whereabouts across the globe. You know, with these little different 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: colored pins, it looks like a murder investigation back there. 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about it as the afternoon wear is on, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: but just be me for the day, and I'm excited 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: to be here on a day where there's a lot 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: of news and not the least of that news comes 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: out of Sacramento and a new bill just signed by 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: the governor overhauling local zoning to build more housing. Now 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: we need more housing, Michael monks, But I'm told this 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: is very specific housing. 19 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: It is very specific housing. And this particular piece of 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 3: legislation has been sitting on Governor Newsom's desk for a 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: few weeks now, it's one of the high ticket items 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: that came out of the General Assembly just this year 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: because it involves housing. We know that there is a 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: so called housing crisis, as it's been characterized. There's not 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: enough housing, and if there were more housing, a lot 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: of people argue that maybe rents would be cheaper and 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 3: more people would be able to afford to live in California, 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: specifically big cities like Los Angeles where it is extremely expensive. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: So this particular bill was called Senate Bill seventy nine, 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: got a nice ring to it. Yeah, indeed, it's a 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: good number. You want a good number attached to your bill. 32 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: SB seventy nine flows right off the tongue, and it 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: flowed off a lot of tongues here in LA even 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: among people who tend to be pro housing, they say, 35 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: we need more housing. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: But opposed this bill. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: This clears the way for zoning changes around transit locations, 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: specifically subway stations, light rail stations. But also, and this 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: is where it gets a little murky and confusing for folks, 40 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: some bus stops, not all. We're talking about those rapid 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: bus lines or heavy trafficked bus lines. So there's been 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: a lot of fear in communities about what this means 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: for their neighborhoods because they look outside, they see a 44 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 3: bus stop on the corner and they think, some big 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: apartment tower is coming into my single family home neighborhood 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: and it's not gonna fit. This allows for dense housing 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: up to seven stories near these transit areas, even if 48 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: local zoning disallows it. 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: So there was a big bush here, I mean, that's 50 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 2: how this stuff gets across the finish line. 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Right. 52 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: There were some real lobby efforts on both sides. 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: Are you familiar with the yimbi versus the nimbi? Yeah, 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: this is a good thing. Please talk about this, sure, Yes, 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: in my backyard. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: Know, in my backyard, nimby has been a thing for 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: a long time. It's been a sort of a pejorative 58 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 3: that you could throw at people who say, I don't 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: want that business, that development in my neighborhood, and they're 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: just nimbi's. They're nimbis, they're nimbies. But this new movement 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: has developed very strongly in California called yimbi's. Yes, we 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 3: want all the housing belt, we want it all. And 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: there are people who are concerned about the way neighborhoods 64 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: look and that you don't want to disrupt the flow, 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: and Zoni exists for a reason. It's to keep continuity 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: in neighborhoods, is to keep character, it's to preserve historic 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: residences and those. 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: Sorts of things. 69 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Supporters of this bill say, don't worry, this is not 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: here to disrupt any of that. What it is to 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 3: do is to find all of those empty lots or 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: those underutilized lots near these transit lines where we can 73 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: now build larger apartment buildings and put people living there 74 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: who don't necessarily want. 75 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 5: To drive cars. 76 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: So you're addressing a couple of things. 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: We're also talking about traffic congestion as well, so you're 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: hyping up metro for example. Another thing to keep in 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: mind is this is a state law that wise spek's 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: way more than just LA. It does, but not as 81 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: much as you might think. Oh, really, eight counties only. 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: It originally was going to be statewide, but this bill 83 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: got a lot of attention and it now only applies 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: to the larger counties. Los Angeles and Orange Counties are 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: among them, but the other ones are San Diego, Santa Clair, Alameda, Sacramento, 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: San Francisco, and San Mateo. This issue came up at 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: La City Hall and it was one of the more 88 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: contentious debates that I had seen there. Every now and then, 89 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: the Board of Supervisors or the city Council, and really 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: all over the place, they'll vote to endorse a piece 91 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: of state legislation or federal legislation, and sometimes there's a 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: little teeth to it, like their own lobbying firms in 93 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: the Capitol or in Washington. 94 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: Will work to push this. 95 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: But they voted specifically on this one, and by a 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: vote of eight to five. The City of Los Angeles 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: is on the record as opposing this bill. Here is 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 3: what Councilwoman Tracy Park, who represents the Palisades, had to 99 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: say about it. 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 6: Cities that have done the work to responsibly address housing 101 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 6: shouldn't be lumped in with the same mandates that apply 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 6: to city that have done nothing. 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 5: SB seventy nine. 104 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 6: Overrides our progress, It disregards our communities and opens the 105 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 6: floodgates for developers to target vulnerable neighborhoods, places where families 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 6: have lived for generations, and Sacramento isn't footing the bill. 107 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 6: The costs of upgrading schools, utilities, roads, public safety, all 108 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 6: of that will fall squarely on the shoulders of Angelino's. 109 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: What the councilwoman is saying is, look, Los Angeles recognizes 110 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: that there is a housing shortage, heir, but Los Angeles 111 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: is also doing its part. 112 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: That's her claim. 113 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: Others would disagree, certainly, including other members of city Council 114 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: who said we're not doing enough. We're absolutely not doing enough, 115 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: so there was a tight vote. She is particularly concerned 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: about Palisades, and so are a lot of people. As 117 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: the Palisades starts to rebuild, will it have the same 118 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: character or as close to the same character as it 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: did before if legislation like this exists. Many proponents, vocal 120 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: proponents of this legislation say this will not touch the Palisades. 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: This is not relevant to the Palisades at all. There 122 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: are no metro stations in the Palisades and there are 123 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: no rapid bus lines, so have no fear. But that 124 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: fear does still exist. 125 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Yah, and she represents that the Palisades, she'd expect her 126 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: to articulate something related to her constituency there, you know exactly. 127 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: And Councilwoman Monica Rodriguez, who also voted against supporting this 128 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: bill on the City level, a ceremonial vote who represents 129 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: the northeastern San Fernando Valley. 130 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: Her concern was. 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: That she believes that this bill could apply to future 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: lines that don't necessarily exist yet. So when you think 133 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: about the metro system as it exists today and the 134 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,679 Speaker 3: maps of the future, that's what she's concerned about, because 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: there are often maps created that never come to fruition. 136 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: So if you start to put the cart before the 137 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 3: horse here and you are building these tall buildings next 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: to a planned metro state that never opens up, then 139 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: you might have a development that's out of character without 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: the transit to support it. 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 5: Wow. 142 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: That's really thinking way ahead in the movie, isn't it. 143 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: But I mean that is not without some valid, valid 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: point in the analysis. Yeah, the idea somehow that this 145 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: is an urbanization of areas that are already urbanized or overdevelopment. 146 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: Is that an issue anymore? Or is the need for 147 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: housing so immense that people just bump that issue out 148 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: of them. 149 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: This gets back into the ymbi versus nimby thing, because 150 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: I think even if you are somebody who is who 151 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: might fall into that nimbi bucket, just generically you are 152 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: still able to recognize that more housing is needed. It 153 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: affects the market, and if there is more on the market, 154 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: then the price should go down. It's supply and demand. 155 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: The concerns are simply about neighborhood character, and you are right, 156 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: is my suburban style neighborhood going to be urbanized by 157 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: a seven story tower next to the metro station? Valid concern, 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: But there are others who say, well, it's time to 159 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: urbanize because we're not using our land properly. We have 160 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: all of you might live in a suburban neighborhood that 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: has a gas station with a good sized parking lot, 162 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: neither of which are open or utilized right now. So 163 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: why try to bring another gas station in there when 164 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: you could put a tower and one hundred, one hundred 165 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: and fifty more residents who would be taking the train 166 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: into the city to work. 167 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: Well, it would be there in proximity to take in 168 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: the train, but they may or may not take the train. 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that there's that too. It's going to require. 170 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: A lot of coordination between the development and Metro really 171 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: coming to fruition here. Now there's a lot of train 172 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: stations already and some usable land around those train stations, 173 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: as well as some of those bus stops that are 174 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: along these rapid transit lines that will lend themselves very 175 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: easily to this type of development. You're right, does this 176 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: immediately ease congestion on the five and that sort of 177 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: thing to be determined. The system itself needs to be 178 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: cleaned up and inviting to folks in ways that go 179 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: beyond the paper, the ways that go beyond the map. 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: Thank you. 181 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: That was the next point I was going to make. 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: I mean, they have to clean up mass transit. I 183 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: mean you have to make it something that you know, 184 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: where it's not life threatening or sketchy to get on board. 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: There is a police department coming to Metro in twenty 186 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: twenty nine, so by the time these buildings are able 187 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: to even open, and we know how long it takes 188 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: to build anything around here, But if you're thinking years 189 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: in advance, let's say a building is going to open 190 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: in twenty thirty two. Ideally, we know how government works 191 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: around here, not always great. Ideally, you got yourself a 192 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: nice building. You're right next to a train stop, and 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: that train is clean and well patrolled. 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 4: Monks, nice stuff. SB. 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: Seventy nine. It is law now in California indeed signed it. 196 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: So thanks for the update, my pleasure. We'll watch for 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: an apartment building near you as soon. It is the 198 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: co Belt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for John. I'm 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 200 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 201 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: six forty. 202 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: I am struck by, as I'm sure many of you 203 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: might have been, the blow up around the Katie Porter 204 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: outtakes now that have hobbled her campaign for governor. I mean, 205 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: she was the darling of many Democrats and even some 206 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: independence I mean in middle of the roots felt like, 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: you know, she speaks truth the power. She's the one 208 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: with that whiteboard. She breaks concepts down in a way 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: that they need to be broken down and explained, and 210 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: she could be an advocate for, you know, the every person. 211 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: And this whole thing started as the pushback in that 212 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: was it a CBS interview she was doing that k 213 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: col She had just I guess had one of those 214 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: days if you want to try to kind of see 215 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: it from her perspective. You know, Debra, you sit down 216 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: with a candidate and you asked a couple of tough questions. 217 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: You know, who's really good at that taking off the 218 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: microphone and walking away is zoo Donald Trump? I mean, 219 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: he's walked out of many an interview. You know, it 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: seems to work for him. 221 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 8: But what was interesting about with Katie Porters She didn't 222 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 8: like the follow up questions. And I was talking to 223 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 8: John about this yesterday. What good reporter doesn't ask a 224 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 8: follow up question? You're taught that in you know, beginning journalism, 225 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 8: that you have a list of questions and depending on 226 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 8: the person that you're interviewing and how they answer, you 227 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 8: follow up. 228 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean you could. It was a weird follow 229 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: up only from the and yet not it was sort 230 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: of a benign follow up in a way. It was about, 231 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, so if you don't get all the Democrats 232 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: to vote for you, you're going to have to get some 233 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: independence and Republicans. It would seem what do you say 234 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: to those Republicans? You know, how do you communicate a 235 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: message that sparks some interest in Republicans who are not 236 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: traditionally your supporters. I mean it's a fair question, you know, 237 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, that's when I say it's a 238 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: benign question. It's an easy question for a politician to field. 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: I mean, if that's the question that is going to 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: get your backup, then it's sort of weird. But again, 241 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: I don't know long day whatever it might be. And 242 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: let me just say this, I'll just say it right 243 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: up front. If this was a dude, if this was 244 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: a guy, I promise you they'd be giving him more roly. 245 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: You know, he wouldn't take any crap with you know, 246 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: he he was tired of taking any grief. I mean, again, 247 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: Trump's gotten away with it. A lot of guys have 248 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: gotten away with it, Like Trump continues to call out Trump. 249 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: How can you ask such a stupid question? You know, 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: your organization is is awful. News is terrible, your fake news, 251 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: and Trump gets away with it. Katie Porter, it's off 252 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: brand for her, which is why it's so if she 253 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: was typically combative, if she had that kind of coarse exterior, 254 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: the kind of that exterior that Trump has when he's 255 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: not trying to be charming, then it might be different. 256 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: I mean, i'd suggest this is impolitic. You know, this 257 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: doesn't work for you if you're a politician, no matter what. 258 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: So it really doesn't matter in a way what her 259 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: brand would have been, because it's just a bad idea 260 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: to blow up at a journalist. And then once it 261 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: started with the back and forth, she just was taken 262 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: on water. I thought, oh no, this is just terrible 263 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: for you. So what's happened now is that every time 264 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: she's blown up at anybody, we're seeing the video and 265 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: it's all floating to the surface. 266 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: So Mario, we've got to this is. 267 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 2: I guess her yelling at a staffer back in twenty 268 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: twenty one when they were setting up a camera shot 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: and they were shooting something about electric vehicles for the 270 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Biden administration, and the staffer was attempting to correct one 271 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: of her talking points, and this happened. 272 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 9: We did a study recently this fall in September, and 273 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 9: what it showed is if we don't electrify or transportation sector, 274 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 9: that we're going to lose more than half a million 275 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 9: Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems, and 276 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 9: the state could lose out of my shot. 277 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: I wanted to tell you that that's actually incorrect. 278 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 9: It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that you don't 279 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 9: need a commitment as any of the Paris climate for. 280 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: Okay, it does. 281 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 10: Okay, you also were in my shot before that, Stay 282 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 10: out of my shot. Okay, I'm going to start again 283 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 10: with electric vehicle savingus money. 284 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 11: Perfect. 285 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 4: Okay, So. 286 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: You know, not the best look. Yelling at a staffer 287 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: is never good. I don't know, you know, maybe it's 288 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: just me, Debora. I'm trying to be sympathetic. I'm always 289 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: sympathetic to people who are, you know, trying to communicate 290 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: something and they get distracted by something. But maybe I'm 291 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 2: just bending over backwards. I mean, it's really hard for me. 292 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: She's got a reputation of kind of being a hothead. 293 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 11: Yeah. 294 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 8: I don't think you should treat your staff people or 295 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 8: anybody that works for you like that. 296 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: But if you can't treat your staff that way, then 297 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: who can you treat them? 298 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 8: That's very true, Mark, that is I don't really have 299 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 8: an answer for that. 300 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: If we can get some aving confidence around. 301 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 8: Here, and then politicians I think are so dumb for 302 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 8: doing that because that always leaks out. We always hear 303 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 8: from ex staffers speaking with celebrities. We always hear about 304 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 8: those that treat their people badly. 305 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: Well, she now it just has dropped like a stone 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: in terms of it would seem her her general profile 307 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: as a legitimate gubernatorial candidates. I say, and she was 308 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: very much in the conversation. Now she's very much in 309 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: a different conversation, and it's not good for that candidacy, 310 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: you know. She filed for divorce in twenty thirteen, and 311 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: part of the divorce, the ex husband claimed she was 312 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: a hothead abused him verbally through toys, books, and other objects. 313 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: Potatos. 314 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 8: John calls her missus potato, not me. I don't call 315 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 8: her that. That's John Cobalt. 316 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 4: The claim from. 317 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: The ex who tried to get a restraining order, claiming 318 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: that she would call him an effing idiot, effing incompetent, 319 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: shattered a glass coffee pot in the kitchen when she 320 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: felt the house wasn't clean enough. To be fair, how 321 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: are you going to communicate that the house isn't cleaned 322 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: unless you break a few coffee Well. 323 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 12: I guess that's the way to do it. Gravatantrum. 324 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: She would not let me have a cell phone because 325 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: she said you were too effing dumbed operated. 326 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: The ex husband said, well, why would. 327 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 8: You let your wife decide if you can or cannot 328 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 8: have a self. 329 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: It sounds like an odd relationship to begin with. When 330 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: she gets angry, she will claw and scratch her arms 331 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: and then say to. 332 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 4: Me, look what you made me do? 333 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 12: Oh god, I don't know. 334 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: Again, I think she was out of line. I think 335 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: as a politician, you have to do better, as Deborah's 336 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: basically said, you know, And I didn't think that that 337 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: line of questioning was out of control. 338 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 4: I get it. It's sort of vexing. 339 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: It's irritating when someone's saying, well, what are you saying 340 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 2: you're going to get every vote you know from the Democrats? 341 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, don't you need to get some votes? And 342 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: then well, I'm saying that I you know, I'm going 343 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 2: to bring my message, and really, do you think your 344 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: message is going to somehow resonate with Republicans? I mean, 345 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: instead of, as Deborah says, you know, getting your backup 346 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: about the follow ups. Just to handle the follow ups 347 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: like the politician you are are. 348 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 8: Your pr person needs to sit down and say to you, hey, look, 349 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 8: you're going to agree to an interview. There's going to 350 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 8: be follow up questions. 351 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 12: End of story. 352 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, in two thousand and six, this is the ex 353 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: husband again. I always feel like if you're if you're 354 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 2: reading the divorce accounts, you're getting pretty much the worst 355 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: possible profile of somebody. But anyway, having said that, in 356 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: two thousand and six, the ex husband Hoffman said she 357 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: took a issue that his porter did Katie Porter, with 358 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: how he was preparing mashed potatoes for dinner. I just 359 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: remembering this for the Cobalt audience that might have missed 360 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: it the last time, asking him, can't you read the 361 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: effing instructions? Then her ex husband said that she raised 362 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: a ceramic bowl of steaming hot potatoes and dumped it 363 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: on his head, burning his scalp. Wow, Yeah, there's no 364 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: real I'm sorry, I can't spend that for her. 365 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 4: I cannot. 366 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 12: That's a hard one. 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but why can't he read the effing instructions? Okay, 368 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: maybe that's. 369 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 8: Where I don't read instructions that well when it comes 370 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 8: to cooking either. But hopefully my husband would never throw 371 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 8: a heat potatoes. 372 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: Steaming, certainly not steaming hot potatoes. Yeah, that's the story 373 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: on Katie Porter. She's in trouble. The reputational harm from 374 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 2: something like that is real. You've seen it before, and 375 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: sadly it's great copy, meaning You're going to see it 376 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: over and over. I mean, it's the kind of virality 377 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: that will carry for days. So everybody's going to see it, 378 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: hear it, talk about it, and as a result. 379 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: It just it takes on a life of its own. 380 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: So it opens up the field in such a big 381 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: way in the gubernatorial race. And we'll talk about that 382 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: in the days ahead. It's a John Covelt Joe Mark 383 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty. We're live 384 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 385 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 386 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 7: six forty. 387 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 2: Debra keeping track of John's movements. I think he's just 388 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: catching a flight today it all begins, but a little 389 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: bit later we will will track his progress in itinerary, 390 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: which is quite exciting. Meantime, there is blowback about this 391 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: Nobel Prize, the Nobel Peace Prize. The Nobel Peace Prize 392 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: did not go to Donald Trump. You know, the White 393 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 2: House had been campaigning, has had many around the President 394 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: calling for Donald Trump to win the prize. And even 395 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: when this Maria Carrino Machado won. She's the Venezuelan democracy crusader. 396 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: You know her story it's kind of a wild story. 397 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: In Venezuela. Her party the opposition party from Maduro, and 398 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: she wasn't the candidate, but she was like a you know, 399 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: a real crusader for this opposition party, calling out the 400 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: authoritarianism and the fascism of this Maduro Guy's a bad dude. 401 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: Well they won, they won the election, but Maduro denied 402 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: the results, controls the military in Venezuela and forced the 403 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: opposition candidate into exile, forced her this Maria Corina Machando, 404 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: the one who won the Nobel Prize, forced her. 405 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 4: Into hiding. 406 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: So for the last year they've been and she's been 407 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: heading up this effort talking about the fact that you know, 408 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: he is holding office illegally in denial of what the 409 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: election results were, and she's trying to restore democracy to Venezuela. Well, 410 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: this is worthy the Nobel Committee's view of a Nobel 411 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: Peace Prize. Now the Trump people are saying, what do 412 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: we gotta do? We ended the Gaza conflict. We got 413 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: all these signatories to these multi stage blueprints associated with 414 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: ending the Gaza conflict. And it was Donald Trump who 415 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: helped make that happen. I mean, isn't that Nobel Peace 416 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: Prize worthy. Now, to be fair to the Nobel Committee, 417 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: I don't really know, maybe you do, Deborah, how the 418 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: actual timing of the vote works. But a little like 419 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: oscar voting, you know, some of the votes come in 420 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: before the peace plan announcement comes in. I mean, after all, 421 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: the Gaza peace Plan was just announced in the last 422 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: couple of. 423 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 8: Days exactly, and I heard people talking about that. I 424 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 8: heard a talk show host talking about that that it 425 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 8: probably was already locked Inmever it was just because President 426 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 8: Trump was successful in getting peace. 427 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 12: In the Middle East. 428 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 8: Hopefully it's going to go through and everything will work out, 429 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 8: the hostages will go home Monday Tuesday. But yeah, they 430 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 8: probably already made that decision way before this happened exactly. 431 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: So the cake was baked already there was no way 432 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: to redo it. But the White House, as I say, 433 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: did not immediately congratulate her. I think Donald Trump guessing 434 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: here because you know, there's been no official word, but 435 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: just seems kind of consistent with him that he's probably 436 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: not super happy. 437 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 12: I'm sure he's pissed off being left. 438 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Out of the Nobel Peace Prize conversation. So all of 439 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: these things have riled up MAGA. So you know, his 440 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: real fans, the merch wearing, merch buying super megaheads, they 441 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: are not happy and they're angry about this. But I 442 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: think what we've just done is we've provided at least 443 00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: some logical explanation for why Trump may have not been 444 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: in that conversation. It may literally have been a timing thing. 445 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: Now you could say, well, you know, he's blowing boats 446 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: out of the water, and you know these judicial killings, 447 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: and you know he's turning troops on American cities. So 448 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: it's for that reason that he wasn't included. Well maybe, okay, maybe, 449 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: but I'm thinking that this gossip deal is pretty big, 450 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: and that they might have really felt as though he 451 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: was worthy on some level. I mean, he really did 452 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 2: say what you want, I mean, give the devil his due. 453 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: He really did get these parties intractable as they were 454 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: to sign on to a deal. And as Deborah says, 455 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: hostages come back, cessation of hostilities, humanitarian aid six hundred 456 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: trucks a day. Things radically changed. And I think it 457 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: really was the result of his heavy lift bad they. 458 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 8: Couldn't award two yeah rises, right, So this is the 459 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 8: one that they had locked in, right, and because of 460 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 8: the Mid East and everything that's going on, they decide 461 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 8: to add a second you know, second place. 462 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, or a tie. Yeah. 463 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: It's like the Oscars though, you know, I mean, where's 464 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: show Business Town? 465 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 4: Yeah? 466 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes feel like, gosh, how can you even compare these 467 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: two movies? They're both fabulous, but there can be only 468 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: one winner. 469 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 4: And but this was. 470 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 8: Different because because this piece planned losing my voice hang on, Yeah. 471 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: It's not critical fortunately in this medium that you have 472 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: a voice. 473 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly. 474 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 8: You know what I'm getting at is that unfortunately the 475 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 8: peace plan wasn't ironed out sooner right for him to 476 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 8: have gotten the award. And with the Oscars, the movies, 477 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 8: they all have to be out at a certain. 478 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 2: Time, that's right, I mean, And the Oscars movies will 479 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: tell you that they oftentimes, if they want to be 480 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 2: in the Oscar Conversation, they release movies later in the 481 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: year because the ones in January and February get forgotten 482 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: in the Oscar Conversation. So this is a note to 483 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: all of you who are going to, you know, work 484 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: for peace in the world. If you're really angling for 485 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: a Nobel Peace Prize, don't get the piece days before 486 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: they announced it. 487 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 12: It should have been months ago exactly. Bride and Trump 488 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 12: do that. 489 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: Don't even bother if it's only going to be a 490 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: couple of days before the Nobel Peace Prize announcement. It's 491 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 2: the John co Belt Show, Mark Thompson here on KFI 492 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 493 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 494 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 7: six forty. 495 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: We've got a conversation at top of the hour with 496 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: someone who really, single handedly and kind of that's why 497 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to her, began a legislative process 498 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: that just passed the finish line, Governor Newsom, passing really 499 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 2: a landmark bill when it comes to animals. Love talk 500 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: to her about that top of the hour. I mean, 501 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: like most things, it's interesting. You know, once you pass 502 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: a bill, you know you have a quite a gaggle 503 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: of people around you taking credit for it, but the 504 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: actual lift starts oftentimes with one person. And I love 505 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: those stories because I feel like it's a message to 506 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: all of us that, you know, if there's something that's 507 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: angering you, if you're outraged by something in your neighborhood 508 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: or your community. You may just feel overmatched by the mayor, 509 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: by the city council, whatever it might be. And the 510 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: reality can be that just or big money. In this case, 511 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: I think it's a big money thing. You could totally 512 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: outspend by the opposition a little bit more into a 513 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: top of the hour, But this is the triumph of 514 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: one person against all those things. So we'll do that. 515 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: Just after two o'clock. I just kind of got into this. 516 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: I was talking to John Cobalt about this the other day. 517 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: The city controller, the La City Controller, Kenneth Maheea, is 518 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: everybody familiar with him. He's really an interesting character because 519 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: he's got a social media presence and that is the 520 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: way to communicate with people increasingly. And he talks about 521 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: on his social media the way that he is trying 522 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: to audit the city as the La City Controller. He's 523 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: trying to track money in the city and how he's 524 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: getting big timed and stonewalled by the mayor and by 525 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: those in office in the city. This is in La 526 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: who are it would seem And this is the kind 527 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: of suggestion maybe protecting questions about how money is spent, 528 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: particularly on what the same thing that we're all outraged 529 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: by homelessness, that homeless industrial complex that just gets money 530 00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 2: poured into it and the results are questionable. So this 531 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: Kenneth Mahia again, the LA City Controller. He's got an 532 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: Instagram account, and I've kind of gotten into watching it 533 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: because he sort of spells it out, like I'm trying 534 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: to get some answers for the people of Los Angeles, 535 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 2: but I'm getting stonewalled by city leadership. Here's a bit 536 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: of him on Instagram. Kenneth Mahia, Go ahead, Mario is 537 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: Oscar distracting you in there? And this is like great, yeah, 538 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: because I'm filling in, so no big deal. Come on, 539 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: you can all right? Are you ready? 540 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 11: This is Kenneth Mehia millions of dollars to avoid transparency 541 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 11: and accountability by yours truly, Kenneth Mahia, your. 542 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 5: City controller, if you didn't know. 543 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 11: The City of Los Angeles was sued over its homelessness efforts, 544 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 11: and part of that case, the city had to undergo 545 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 11: an audit, and instead of going with the independently elected 546 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 11: city controller who was the city's auditor, who actually would 547 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 11: have done this for free, the city ended up spending 548 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 11: nearly three million dollars on an outside firm who is 549 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 11: not an audit firm to actually conduct this audit over 550 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 11: homelessness spending and also homelessness efforts as well. And so 551 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 11: when the results came back, the city actually disparaged the results. 552 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 11: You know, they didn't call it a real audit, it 553 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 11: was an assessment. And so here we are today, and 554 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 11: the judge, instead of appointing a receivership over all of 555 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 11: the city's homelessness efforts, decided that the city needs a 556 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 11: monitor over its homelessness spending and efforts in real time. 557 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 5: And so wow, here's another opportunity for oversight. 558 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 11: And the plaintiffs suing the city actually recommended our office, 559 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 11: the current city Controller's office, to be a monitor, but the. 560 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: City of La rejected that. They said, no, not you again. 561 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 11: And so you know, my audit team, we have decades 562 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 11: of experience in technical expertise with data, homelessness subject matter 563 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 11: experts we created the city's homelessness. 564 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 5: Dashboard were also independent. So I thought, wow, this would 565 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 5: have been perfect because we're already doing the work. 566 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 11: But the city decided that they're going to pick. 567 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 5: The former city controller, my predecessor. 568 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 11: And so I thought, wow, it's not that they don't 569 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 11: want the city controller. They don't want this city controller, 570 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 11: me ken Ath and Mihia, the independent elected city controller 571 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 11: that you all wanted me to bring that transparency and accountability. 572 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 11: But anyways, I'm here to make sure that we will 573 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 11: continue to provide that independence and that oversight that you 574 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 11: will want. 575 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: And voted for. 576 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: Okay, so we'll keep you all posted. 577 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: Thank you. 578 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: I really feel as though he lays it out well, 579 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: it's inexcusable what's happening with spending around homelessness in Los Angeles. 580 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: It's just inexcusable. This is a system and almostness programs 581 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: that are so suspect, some of them, and certainly as 582 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: a collective that you have independent judgments saying there must 583 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: be an audit, there must be a monitor. So Mahem 584 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 2: makes a really good argument. It's also a low cost argument. 585 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: He's already there, his people are already there, and to me, 586 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: it's inexcusable. And it's one more way that you're seeing 587 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: waste in the city of Los Angeles, and this just 588 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: did the City of LA doesn't have money to waste. 589 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: Kenneth Mahee you can follow him on Instagram. He's got 590 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: a pretty robust social media following because he spells stuff 591 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: out just like that. When we come back, it's the 592 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 2: power of one person to get a law passed in California. 593 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Amazing story. It took a while. Doctor Jennifer Conrad talks 594 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: to us next about that process and it finally getting 595 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: over the finish line. In the last It's The Cobalt Show. 596 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty. 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