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Speaker 3: No, you fit in seamlessly in this weird mknviron.

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Speaker 1: When your mark get set and.

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing I've learned doing this show, it's

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Speaker 1: that I have an incredibly stupid face.

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Speaker 4: I really, I was just thinking I need to start

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Speaker 2: You know, It's like.

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Speaker 1: It's just the worst face on earth. It really is. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome on this sixteenth day of March twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: for another episode of Morning Combat. I am merely one

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Speaker 1: half of your hosting duel. My name is Thomas. Of course,

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Speaker 1: I joined you from the Capitol Bestads News right here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. With my continuously Connecticut brethren. In

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Speaker 1: this case, it's the iceman himself, Chuckmanton Hall. Hi, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: how are you, Bud?

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Speaker 4: I'm well man. You know this Monday thing is working,

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Speaker 4: isn't it. I feel like, now, what is this three

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Speaker 1: This is settled in?

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Speaker 2: Now settled?

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Speaker 1: It's going great? Man. That means we'rerobably gonna get fired today, right.

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Speaker 2: I should never take anything for granted.

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Speaker 1: You know, did you watch any of that World Baseball

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Speaker 1: Classic last night over the weekend at all?

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Speaker 2: No, did you?

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Speaker 1: I tried. So I watched the Dominican Republic USA game

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Speaker 1: the Dominican Republic. I guess we'round like eight or nine

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Speaker 1: one way or the other. No to one. So I saw,

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Speaker 1: I saw all the parts that mattered in the end.

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Speaker 1: You know who's say, dude, I gotta tell you I'm

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Speaker 1: not even a big baseball guy. And I'll move on

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Speaker 1: here just a second. It's a fun ass tournament. You

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Speaker 2: I have not watched it all, but I mean there's

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Speaker 4: You know, it's get all times around here, so just

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Speaker 4: to get to the fights is hard enough for me,

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Speaker 4: lou fair enough. But I have seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: So it's like, dude, I've said this before. If you've

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Speaker 1: I actually again I'm not a baseball purist, but to me,

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Speaker 1: just full of fun ass and you know, spirit, and

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Speaker 1: it's been kind of fun to watch. All Right, we're

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good. I did a damn good job of

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Speaker 1: out this morning. Top Rank has a new deal with dizone.

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Speaker 1: They've reached an eight to ten broadcast events per year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, to be on dizone is it's it's weird,

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Speaker 4: What I mean, only only on when it's an event,

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Speaker 1: Me, man, Josh Emmett. I mean, the stat line is brutal.

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Speaker 1: He was knocked down twice. He landed three significant strikes,

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Speaker 2: He thinks he still has it.

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Speaker 4: He still wants to go in there and do something,

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Speaker 2: That that's where it gets exciting. Right.

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Speaker 4: Did you see him kind of dancing when he was

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Speaker 1: Man. We have video of that. Let's see it.

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Speaker 1: Fun ass kid definitely on that one. Now, he was

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Speaker 2: Who will give you that most bloody war?

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Speaker 6: Is there a name that interests you the most? Any

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Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, but of course.

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Speaker 1: Now, Chuck, if you look at the current position, this

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Speaker 4: You know, I was talking to Kevin Visha before this fight,

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Speaker 1: I'm always amazed that, Like, if you look around, there's

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Speaker 1: It feels like Kevin's got that going forward to twenty

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Speaker 4: just a little bit of backstory to pay attention to

435
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 4: the guy's really level headed, man for a twenty four

436
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Speaker 4: year old kid. You see some guys who are like

437
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 4: twenty eight and they look like loose cannons out there.

438
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Speaker 2: They just don't have that kind of discipline. But this

439
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 2: guy does.

440
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Speaker 1: Man. So let's talk then about the other side of

441
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Speaker 1: the equation. Josh Emmett and I did see that there

442
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,920
Speaker 1: were some folks who kind of suggested, you know, maybe

443
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Speaker 1: he should retire. Yeah, Chuck, he's forty one. As you mentioned,

444
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 1: I think he's lost five of six. He does have

445
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Speaker 1: one win relative well, not that recently, but you know

446
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 1: not I guess not too far away. But still it's

447
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: been a lot of l's back to back here in general,

448
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: what do you think should be next?

449
00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing walk Away.

450
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 4: I know, it's so tough, dude, Like this is a

451
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 4: guy who was on that hot streak not that long ago,

452
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Speaker 4: and you know, was flirting with, you know, maybe getting

453
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Speaker 4: becoming a champion in the division, Like it was at

454
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 4: least being talked about a lot, and you end up

455
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 4: on a skid like this. I think in his perspective,

456
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 4: he'd love to go out on top. But that's such

457
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 4: a tough draw because when the UFC is booking you

458
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 4: against Kevin Viejos, you're like, you know that, you know

459
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 4: that they're kind of putting you on.

460
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Speaker 2: That ice floe.

461
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 4: They're saying, like, all right, Josh, this is probably it

462
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 4: for you, man.

463
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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't mind see him. But like, he hasn't

464
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Speaker 2: been knocked out a lot.

465
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Speaker 4: I think this is only the second time, right, Like

466
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,919
Speaker 4: he got knocked out by Jeremy Stevens a few Like

467
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Speaker 4: maybe I don't even maybe it was like eight years ago.

468
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Speaker 4: Now it was a long time ago, but he's been

469
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Speaker 4: a sturdy Like sometimes guys get very chinny. It didn't

470
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Speaker 4: seem like that he got dropped. He tried to recover,

471
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Speaker 4: but you could see that he was clearly affected. How

472
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Speaker 4: many times?

473
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Speaker 1: Though?

474
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Speaker 2: Do you want to go through this down the stretch?

475
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Speaker 2: And I don't know.

476
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Speaker 4: When a guy gets into his forties and they're on

477
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Speaker 4: that kind of skid, I'm always like, you'd rather see

478
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Speaker 4: them kind of get out of it.

479
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Speaker 2: At that point, he had.

480
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Speaker 1: A great run after that. Jeremy remember that Jeremy Stevens

481
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Speaker 1: loss was so bad. Yeah, I think it broke the

482
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Speaker 1: roof of his mouth if memory serves.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that. It was a very memorable day.

484
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 4: It was a very memorable fight. That's why I was like,

485
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 4: it's easy to remember.

486
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Speaker 1: It, you know. And he went on a huge run

487
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Speaker 1: after that. He beat Michael Johnson, mir Said Bechtich when

488
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Speaker 1: that was a big win, Shane Burgos, Dan Egay, and

489
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Speaker 1: then Calvin Cater. He was on a hell of a run.

490
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Speaker 1: But since then it has been basically all problems. He

491
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Speaker 1: loses to the I ear, he got submitted, he got

492
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Speaker 1: the shit beating out of him by Ilia. He rebounds

493
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Speaker 1: against Bryce and that was in twenty twenty three. But

494
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Speaker 1: then Larne Murphy, Yusef Zilah, now Kevin v. Jajos. I mean,

495
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, that's a tough stretcher. I know he's

496
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Speaker 1: not fighting scrubs. I mean, he's fighting tough ass guys.

497
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Speaker 1: But the thing for me that I look at here, Chuck,

498
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Speaker 1: is listen. Throughout the course of someone's career, they can

499
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Speaker 1: have high, great wins and in the middle of their

500
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Speaker 1: prime sometimes have a terrible stoppage loss. But as a

501
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 1: general rule, if someone has been like a pretty good fighter,

502
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Speaker 1: even like a really good fighter, what happens first is

503
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: they just start to lose a lot, and then what

504
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: happens after that is they start to lose badly, like

505
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 1: they get hurt in fights, right, And that to me

506
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Speaker 1: is warning sign And I think that's exactly what you

507
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: got in this particular fight. Yusuf Solaal. You know he

508
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: got submitted in that one, but it was only a

509
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,719
Speaker 1: minute thirty eight and you know it wasn't a beating.

510
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: So what can you really say, Larne, not a heavy puncher.

511
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: He went the distance again, you know what, and again

512
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Speaker 1: you lose to Ilia. You were there, you know, try

513
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 1: to give it back to him as best you could,

514
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: but you survived. But dude, when you're getting put out

515
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: inside of how many it was three minutes and three

516
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: three seconds, When you're getting put out inside of four

517
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Speaker 1: minutes and outclass that badly. You know, Yeah, like that

518
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: is a flashing red light. Yeah, it's tough.

519
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Speaker 7: Man Like.

520
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Speaker 4: We become almost like the vicarious kind of cornerman when

521
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 4: you because you cover the sport. I cover the sport.

522
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Speaker 4: You watch these guys from the beginning to the end,

523
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: and there's just a point when you you're just like, man,

524
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Speaker 4: I just don't want to see that guy take beatings

525
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 4: man like. I mean, he's given the sport a lot,

526
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Speaker 4: Like he kept that division, he stood in against the best.

527
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 4: He was a vital part of that division for so long.

528
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what would be left, honestly for a

529
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 4: guy like that, other than to try to get that

530
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Speaker 4: fight to go out on top where you just kind

531
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Speaker 4: of retire like after a victory.

532
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Speaker 2: But how often do we even get that?

533
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: You know?

534
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Speaker 4: And the UFC is just not interested in giving guys

535
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 4: winnable fights when they get to this point of their career.

536
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: They want to get a young guy over right, like

537
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 4: they want to give it Kevin Vosha. They're not gonna

538
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Speaker 4: They're not gonna feed Josh Emmett. He's not that kind

539
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Speaker 4: of legacy that they're gonna give him some guy that

540
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 4: he should beat, right, I don't think I mean that

541
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: would be that would be surprising me. So I just

542
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Speaker 4: I would I would rather see the guy go out.

543
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Speaker 4: And you know, he kind of preserves in my mind,

544
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Speaker 4: he's one of those guys I'll always think back and

545
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 4: you know, remember his punching power and him standing in

546
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Speaker 4: and beating like.

547
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Speaker 2: Calvin Cave that fight, like those types of fights.

548
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Speaker 1: Man.

549
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Speaker 2: You know, I'll always be remembering those about his career.

550
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Speaker 1: He also he arguably has the best knockout in UFC

551
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Speaker 1: history arguably. Yeah, like he's on that list that Bryce

552
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: Mitchell knockout was that is true, man, I mean especially

553
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 1: that everybody want to see Bryce Mitchell get shot.

554
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Speaker 2: I mean that one really stood out. You're right, man.

555
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Speaker 1: So I just hope that he's able to make It's

556
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: just tough and we'll move on after this. It's just

557
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 1: tough because you sort of get it when a guy

558
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Speaker 1: doesn't retire, but they're kind of close to a title

559
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: and they're waiting to you know, like a Michael Great example,

560
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: like A'm Michael Bisping waiting for UFC one ninety nine opportunity.

561
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: You know, obviously gets it last minute, makes the best

562
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: of it and then scores a couple of title defenses

563
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Speaker 1: right on the back of pay per viewpoints, and you're like, okay,

564
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: all right, I sort of get this. This is this

565
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: is to me. You know, he with that eye injury

566
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: BSB being probably should have been retired a long time

567
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: before that, but you sort of get it. But like,

568
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not in that territory with Josh, and

569
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: I feel bad because that's where all the real money is.

570
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Speaker 1: And so like I'm not I don't know kind of

571
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: what he was getting paidcheck, but I'm guessing it certainly

572
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: wasn't close to that. And so now it's like the

573
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: time has kind of coming to a close and that

574
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 1: the window for that is closing as well. It's just

575
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: it's a tough situation, but yeah, what can you do.

576
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: It's a tough fucking business that you just get it's not.

577
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Speaker 4: And it's it's tough too because Michael Bisping was whether

578
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: you thought he deserved, you know, the situation he ended

579
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Speaker 4: up in. He made the most, but he was also

580
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: a guy that we paid attention to. Is this kind

581
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: of star in the sport mostly a hated guy, but

582
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 4: it's not like it's not like Josh Evan. A lot

583
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: of these guys these days, it's they just don't have

584
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: the same star power to be put in that position anyway.

585
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to topic number two. Let's

586
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Speaker 1: talk the rest of that UFC fight night. Emman versus

587
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: vi Jajo's main card. We got to go right to

588
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: the komain event. This was a fight that we had

589
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Speaker 1: spot lit ahead of time. Emmy was the comin event role.

590
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Speaker 1: But we had talked about it on Friday's MK Chuck,

591
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Speaker 1: namely Jillian Robertson. We had said, she's on a hell

592
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Speaker 1: of a win streak. She has, I think now the

593
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Speaker 1: most wins, uh in is this right long Island the

594
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Speaker 1: most wins in UFC women's history.

595
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 2: No, she has the most.

596
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 3: She's tied for the most finishes in Finnish history, and

597
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Speaker 3: she has the most submissions of any women.

598
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Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? So sorry, I knew I was fucking

599
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: that up somehow.

600
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Speaker 2: She's Charlie Oliver of the division, you know.

601
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's out there doing it. She gets it done

602
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: against the menu lamos. Now here's the thing, though, she

603
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: got pushed, She in my judgment, clearly lost the first round,

604
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: but definitely rallied in the I can certainly put it

605
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: on her in the third. So it was a commendable performance.

606
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Speaker 1: So the question is this, do you think now she

607
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Speaker 1: has done the requisite work to get a title shot.

608
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Speaker 4: I mean, she can make this claim one fifteen. I'm sorry,

609
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,239
Speaker 4: I don't have it in front of me, But like

610
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Speaker 4: she where was she ring like seventh? Like this is

611
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: always like I can tell, like or she was going in.

612
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: I'm not sure where she ends up, but in terms

613
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: of the UFC's efficient rankings going in, she was eighth eighth, Okay,

614
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: so it's a it's a leapfrog them. But but if

615
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 4: you look at just like you're mentioning her, her streak,

616
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Speaker 4: and every time she fights, I'm always it's almost like

617
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Speaker 4: she's one of those those fighters that you pay attention

618
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Speaker 4: to only when she surfaces up on a card and

619
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Speaker 4: you're like, oh shit, she's really good.

620
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Speaker 1: You know.

621
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Speaker 4: It was kind of like that this time too. She

622
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: kind of snuck up and puts on a very good performance.

623
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Speaker 4: What was it like nine minutes of control time? And

624
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: I know that, like sometimes control time can be deceiving,

625
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: but she made the most of those nights that's hard

626
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 4: to do against the mandolimos, right, Like, that's a that's

627
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: a veteran who's very very strong in like those scrambles

628
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 4: and everything, and to end up in those kind of

629
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Speaker 4: dominant positions. Dude, at some point you're like you can

630
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: appreciate the veteran war like where she goes in there

631
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: and she's just prepared for everything, and she's you know,

632
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 4: it's like that lunch pale thing. Right, she's gonna show up,

633
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: she's gonna do what it takes to win. And like

634
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 4: long I was saying, like she's got finishing ability, I

635
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 4: wouldn't be opposed to it. I wouldn't be opposed if

636
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Speaker 4: they wanted to give her a title shot.

637
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're looking at the rankings as we

638
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: indicate it, she's sitting currently at eighth. Her opponent was

639
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: sitting at five, So let's say she's gonna be in

640
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: the top five after that. That put her right around

641
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: the same space roughly as Lupi Go Dinez, Jan Shaw,

642
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Nan Viener, Jenji Robo, Tatiano Suarez, and then Jean wili Is.

643
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: I guess they're more contender because she's not the champion.

644
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Speaker 1: Mackenzie durn Is to me, I would still need to

645
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: see at least one more I don't mean to do.

646
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Speaker 1: I don't know when you mentioned those names. I mean

647
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Speaker 1: like I'm like, okay, yes, you're right, You're right. I

648
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Speaker 1: mean I think to that point you raise, she's beaten

649
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Speaker 1: the other names, right, she's beaten not just the rank

650
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: and file, but now she's beaten the kind of the

651
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: rank and file of the like the back half of

652
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: the top ten now is like the real part of

653
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: the roster that we have to kind of see, if

654
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: not completely cleared, at least some evidence that she can

655
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: win inside of it. But it's in the hell of

656
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: a performance by her thirty years of age. Like I said, dude,

657
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: I thought that first round, you know, it was not

658
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: looking too great for her, and then for her to

659
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: come out and win the second and the third and

660
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: the way that she did. The stats part is interesting

661
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: to me, Chuck, because she got three of seven takedowns,

662
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: so she's only forty two percent from it. But this

663
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: is the part that I think Long Island Luke, you

664
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: basically don't think she should get a title shot from this, right.

665
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: No, because I feel like Waaley is clearly everyone wants

666
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: to see the way Lee fight. And then there's other

667
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: fights that are booked in that top ten. Tatiana's taken

668
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: on Lupy Godinez like next month, and you got Verna

669
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: Genderoba taken on Baby Shark like next month. So both

670
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: of those, if whoever has a great performance out of that,

671
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: I would arguably leapfrog her. And again Wayey's waiting in

672
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: the wings, so she I think she definitely needs one more.

673
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm excited for her to

674
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: get a title shot eventually.

675
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: You know.

676
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I think the other issue Chuck for me is that

677
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, this fight was in the Apex, And I'm

678
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: not saying no one should get a title shot after

679
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: fighting in the Apex, but I am saying I don't

680
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: think that's the best case scenario, you know what I mean,

681
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Like that should be in front of a crowd. It

682
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: should be a star making like kind of moment that

683
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you get it, like you earn something to get a

684
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: title shot. I realize it's, you know, an imperfect science,

685
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I get it, but you know what I mean.

686
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, and if they're putting you on one like

687
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: it just always feels like these are the secondary cards

688
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 4: regardless of how it looks on fighting, it always just

689
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: feels like, Okay, these are the ones we just got

690
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: to fill our contractual obligations. We got to put together card.

691
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: We'll do it the medicum. And when you're on one

692
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: of those cards, you're basically, you know, it almost goes

693
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: so far under the radar you get no promotion. There

694
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 4: are a lot of people if you'd ask them what

695
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 4: is the co main event of this week, they would

696
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: probably know the Kevin fight, right like they would know

697
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: that emmt's fighting.

698
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure they would have even known that

699
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: this was the co main event.

700
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: So they're not They're not putting you in a position

701
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 4: to shine in that in that type of situation.

702
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: Also, I really don't want to hate on Jillian Robertson

703
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: because I actually do like her story. I really like

704
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: her game, and I got to say the grit she

705
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: showed here to make sure that she got the victory

706
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: at a pretty critical moment in her career highly commendable stuff.

707
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: And Dean Thomas has done, you know, I think has

708
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: been her coach for some time. I have great respect for,

709
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: great for Dean as a coach, and I think he's

710
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: obviously done a tremendous job in his role. I will

711
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: say this, and I'm not trying to hate. I'm just

712
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: trying to look at it realistically. Number One, if you

713
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: look at these striking totals, Amandel Aimos forty two significant

714
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: strikes she had Jillian robertson twelve.

715
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: I know, twelve.

716
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Okay, there are so I realize Chuck that

717
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: in the modern game, ground and pound is harder because

718
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: people are much harder to hold down rather than people

719
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: who are willing to accept I'm in this position, I'll

720
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: just fight from here. There's just not as much as

721
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: Charles Olavera will do that, you know, but in general,

722
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: it's pretty hard to get to hold someone down and

723
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: ground and pound that it takes some special kind of

724
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: skills and just not a lot of people have that.

725
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: At the same time, people got to do better, They

726
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: got to do better with the ground and pound, Like,

727
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: if you you're going to be a top control person,

728
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: your ground and pound needs to be like, if not

729
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: the best part of your game, the second best. And

730
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: I noticed a lot of people are focusing on their

731
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: striking and then their top control and then the ground

732
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: and pound seems like an afterthought, and I think they're

733
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: getting it mixed up. That's number one. Number two, let

734
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: me let me know what you think about this. I

735
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: thought that this kind of showcased maybe some of the

736
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: athletic limits of Robertson. She got the job done because

737
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: she had more heart and I think in the end,

738
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: more skill, but Lemosh was making it real difficult for

739
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: her on the physical side of things. Do you share

740
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: that perspective?

741
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 4: No, I definitely saw that, especially in the first round,

742
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 4: and there was a couple of times in the second

743
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 4: round too, But that was part of what I think

744
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 4: in the end stood out about just kind of withstanding

745
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: that that's that's that kind of veteran savvy and honestly,

746
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: that inner strength, I don't know what else you'd call it,

747
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: like that extra gear that she's able to find to

748
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 4: not to come back, because there was a couple of

749
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 4: times where it looked like she was going to end

750
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: up in a very bad position and she didn't, and

751
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 4: she ended up, you know, kind of the second round especially,

752
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: I thought it might not go her way, but in

753
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: the end she won the round, you know, and I

754
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 4: was like, this is what you got to do, right.

755
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: I agree with you man, Like you mentioned just the

756
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: ground and pound, you see it like in a situation.

757
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: I know we're going to talk about her, but mosquito

758
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: mosquito earlier. I know that that's a whole different type

759
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: of level of fighting of what's going on with that fight.

760
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: But that kind of ground and pound, You're like, it

761
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: had been so long since you've seen just hammerfists landing

762
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: that cleanly that you're like, WHOA, I kind of forgot

763
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: this was in people's arsenal. You're right, it gets nullified

764
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 4: a great deal of time these days.

765
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: Before we move on. I just want to make sure

766
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: we give her some airtime. Here's Gillian making the case

767
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: for her getting the title shot.

768
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 8: We want that title shot, that that's where I have

769
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 8: belong next, that's my next spot, and just to make

770
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 8: sure I call it for my shot.

771
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 9: Yes, like you said, five wins in a row here,

772
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 9: are you confident that the next fight that you have

773
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 9: will be for the title?

774
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 8: I think it's the only thing that makes sense. Five

775
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 8: wins in a row, most emissions, most finishes. I think

776
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 8: that I deserve that spot. The only thing that would

777
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 8: really solidify me anymore is that belt.

778
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I like a focus. I don't know if she's gonna

779
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: get the title shot. I don't think she's very far

780
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: from it. I will say that and then I s win.

781
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something about that division in general.

782
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Lake.

783
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: Is it strange to talk about strawweight like this and

784
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: not have somebody making X rated comments.

785
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm hearing him in my head. He's in

786
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: my head right now.

787
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: I can hear him. You know, it is nice to

788
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: have analysis about this division without worrying about my co

789
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: host Fondling or himself. Yes, very quickly, let's bring it

790
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: Long Island, Luke, Long Island, Luke. The del Gatto and

791
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: Feely fight. You believe this to be a robbery? Tell

792
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: me why I thought touching Phey won the fight.

793
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: Here's the judge's scorecards. So they all had it one

794
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: one because it was close. Yes, yeah, yeah, of course,

795
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: But I like, remember when they were reading it was

796
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: a split decision. I was like, oh shit, is Phely

797
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: about to get robbed here? And then Delgatto wins and

798
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh shit. And again I'm intoxicated by the

799
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: time this fight is going on, So you know, take

800
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: it with a grain of salt. People might be like

801
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: Luke Delgatto clearly won that fight, but I felt like

802
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: it was one one going into the third. Don't remember

803
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 3: what happened in the third, but you could see Chris Lee.

804
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he's on my side there, dude, we both

805
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: had it.

806
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: Now.

807
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: I did think it was a robbery. I don't know,

808
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: do you guys feel the same, Chuck.

809
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: I thought it was a nice fight. I could see

810
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: a case for gogto. I don't think that's crazy.

811
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: I thought.

812
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean in real time here, like it was close.

813
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. So robbery.

814
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 4: It is hard to apply that term when it was

815
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 4: a close fight in the end. But I did think

816
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 4: Phey won. Like if you said who won the fight,

817
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 4: I would have been like, I think Phey got it,

818
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 4: you know, the third round being the just edging through him,

819
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: Like I thought he got that done.

820
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: The craziest part about this is Andre Feely continues his

821
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: streak of winning every other fight. It's now like, oh,

822
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 3: that's there's a there's a no contest in there. But

823
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: there's something like twenty straight fights alternating wins and losses.

824
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: So he was due a loss here.

825
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: So wow, to that end, Chuck, I was one time

826
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: talking about the h I was talking to one of

827
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: the stats guys at Fight Metric. I was having lunch

828
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: with him because they're they're based in people was is

829
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: they're based in DC. Who was it it was? I

830
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: don't want to say, but you know it was one

831
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: of it. It was one of okay, okay, I got you,

832
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I got you U. And he was telling me this

833
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: was a while ago. I don't think this is quite

834
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: as true anymore, but he was saying, like, the vast

835
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: majority of people who fight in the UFC never even

836
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: get a three fight win streak. Wow. So the previous

837
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: point about Jillian Robertson having the most finishes in the

838
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: most subs and a five fight win streak. Andre Feeley's

839
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: been here forever and we both know him to be

840
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: a very good fighter. But it's one up, one down,

841
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,959
Speaker 1: one it's just spreading water.

842
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 4: He's been there like twenty six UFC fights man, and also,

843
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 4: like you know, he raised and it took going back

844
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: like what a dozen years. It's kind of nuts that

845
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: he's been able to I don't want to say tread

846
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 4: water because he's definitely had some really big moments too,

847
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: but you know, it was it's I like these veterans.

848
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 4: Like you could see that his part of his game

849
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: plan was.

850
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 2: Like, you know what gonna do.

851
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: We're gonna do the old DC and like some of

852
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: these other guys, we're gonna get a takedown at the

853
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: end of each round and just kind of like try

854
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: to steal the red.

855
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: Like whether it's close enough.

856
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: Maybe this just puts the exclamation, But did you notice that,

857
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 4: like fifteen ten seconds he was going for those takedowns

858
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 4: every time.

859
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's such a veteran thing. I haven't seen

860
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 2: that in a long time.

861
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's an old school move. I don't know

862
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: how use anymore, but it's an old school one. I

863
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: gotta say. Pretty impressive. Although he did get rocked and

864
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: there were some issues, but mar One Rahiki breaking the

865
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: jaw of Harry Hardwick in the second round. Look at

866
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: this right hook blow. I mean, I don't know if

867
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: that's exactly the one that did it, but there was

868
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: a bunch that he landed chuck to that point, he said, listen,

869
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Rahiki got rocked. He definitely even acknowledged, you know, the fights.

870
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Kind of all he said in the post fight interview

871
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm kind of out there fighting me,

872
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and I think he was kind of alluding to the

873
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: fact that he got touched up a little bit. But

874
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I gotta say, for a kid with less than ten fights,

875
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: not that not that Ricky Rihiki. I love that nickname too, dude.

876
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: It was that that type of fight is so ridiculously

877
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 4: fun because sometimes you get and I mean, maybe this

878
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: plays into because I did see you tweeting out like, hey,

879
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: this this card was really good. This might be the

880
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: best card so far twenty twenty six. It certainly fights

881
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: like this that adds the dimension. You could look at

882
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 4: it and almost be like, yeah, I mean it was

883
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 4: it was. There was some clean boxing in there too,

884
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 4: but there's obviously guys who don't have like a big

885
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 4: sense of defense or self preservation through parts of that fight,

886
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 4: you know.

887
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: But dude, like I do remember there was a fight I.

888
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 4: Think it was Martin Campman and against Paul Day back

889
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 4: in the day where they kind of did this kind

890
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: of fight. They went in there and they just you know,

891
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 4: both chins were open for business and it was like,

892
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 4: let's just go to it. And I don't I think

893
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: that I think that Campman lost that fight. But anyway,

894
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 4: it reminded me a little bit of that. It's just

895
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: these clean shots and then there's these barrages that are happening,

896
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 4: and then and then it starts to become the story

897
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 4: of like how in the hell is Harry, Like how

898
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 4: is he not down? Like how is he still in

899
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: this fight? And then all of a sudden it looks

900
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: like he's about to go down and returns fire a

901
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 4: couple of times in Lands one, and it's just that's

902
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: always so astonishing me when you get a guy who's

903
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 4: that tough taking those kinds of shots and obviously like

904
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: he's got his jaw busted midway through the whatever it was,

905
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 4: oh so so long, Island said Campman did lose that fight?

906
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: Do you remember that one? Luke?

907
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 4: I just remember it had like everybody connected on every

908
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 4: thing they were throwing.

909
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: It's what it seemed like. I haven't seen it. I mean,

910
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: I know it all memory, but I mean there's a.

911
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: Lot of fights like it, but it's just there's certain

912
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: ones that stay in your memory where they're just kind

913
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: of standing at range and there's bam bam bam, just

914
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: like wailing into fun stuff, I mean, and just the toughness,

915
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: you know, on display, and you know, to see that

916
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: kind of fight.

917
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: It was fun.

918
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Also for Harry Hardwick, I feel a little bit because

919
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: he was kind of getting memed a little bit for

920
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: like one of his warm ups, which I think is unfair,

921
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: not from this fight, but from a previous fight. Yeah,

922
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: I think he came at Long Island, Luke. Didn't he

923
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: come out of Cage Warriors?

924
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Is that my former featherweight champion at a game?

925
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, right, Like, if you come from

926
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: Cage Warriors, I think in general that's a pretty high

927
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: mark of excellence on the regional scene. But it also

928
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: creates some expectation. Like I have noticed that the guys

929
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: who come from Cage Warriors who don't do so well

930
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: in UFC, like, man, it destroys their stock in certain ways,

931
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Whereas if you come from other shows you don't do well.

932
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it doesn't necessarily help your stock, but

933
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't have this like stay on you. You know,

934
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: people from Cage Warriors who graduate to UFC, they are

935
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: expected to perform. Yeah, tells you a lot about that.

936
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: The state of that a good state of that organization.

937
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: What did you think, man? I mean, it wasn't reckless. Right,

938
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: it was high level striking.

939
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: I thought, like it it seemed to me like they

940
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 4: were they were you know, it was it was being

941
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 4: held at a fairly high level. I didn't feel like

942
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: they're going in there recklessly, but they both had a

943
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: game plan and they were, like it just kind of

944
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: meshed that they were gonna have that kind of fight.

945
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: I just don't. I think these guys, especially in the

946
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: case of Rahiki, they just don't take defense very seriously, right,

947
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like Ilia Ilia got hit

948
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: with one elbow against Charles and it was a big

949
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: one right right right, or like the early exchange, and

950
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: then after that he didn't land shit on him, you

951
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, maybe maybe like a leg kick,

952
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: but like not upstairs. It's like it's like, it's like,

953
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: I don't I think that there is I get it right,

954
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: because m M A is in offense first sport. That

955
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: is what it is. That's that's exactly what it is.

956
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: But people misunderstand that, in my judgment, they think that

957
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: that is a license to basically not put a ton

958
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: of emphasis on defense. And it turns out that the

959
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 1: balance is not seventy thirty eighty twenty it's more like

960
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: sixty forty or even fifty five forty five in favor of offense.

961
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: And I a lot of younger fighters to me get

962
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: that proportion wrong. And this is to me an example

963
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: of that.

964
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I saw along on the post. He's

965
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 4: twenty three years old. I mean sometimes I could be

966
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: I mean he stayed like stayed long and just that

967
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 4: sniper's it was fun to watch. I don't think that

968
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 4: he can go you know, when you're twenty three years

969
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: old and you're kind of just getting started and it's

970
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 4: working for you on whole, it's fun while that goes on.

971
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: But obviously like that is I don't think that's a

972
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: sustainable way to go about it. You know, he's gonna

973
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: definitely have to play a little more defense because he

974
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 4: could have gotten clipped, and he did a couple of times,

975
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: but like he could have gotten hurt on.

976
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: Some of those exchanges. That was sort of unnecessary.

977
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: You know, if there was a reckless element to it,

978
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 4: it was probably that, you know, because he did come

979
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: in there the times where he had him on the

980
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: fence and he's just kind of wailing him.

981
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 8: Now.

982
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: I know that you have the advantage, but if you

983
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: look like if he turns, if you know, off that fence,

984
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: and he did like Harry did like and landed a

985
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: shot or two. I mean we've seen tables turn just

986
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: like that because you get too you get too comfortable

987
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: in that exchange, right, and he certainly has that. Pay

988
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: attention to ilia will take angle off of pressure on

989
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: the fence, which will give people escapes in certain cases,

990
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: but it also keeps him much much safer. We have

991
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: a photo of Hardwick or a statement I should say,

992
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: after he got his jaw broken. My jaw is obviously fucked.

993
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: But that's all right. I like soup, I like smoothies,

994
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I like milkshakes, and I like energy drinks. So all

995
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: of those things I can still have. Life's good. You know,

996
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny, Chuck, I was thinking about for

997
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: today's show. First of all, I mean, the guy's got

998
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: a great attitude. Yes he is. I think he's got

999
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: some abilities. It's just been a bit of a rough

1000
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: start to his UFC endeavors. But what's kind of funny

1001
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: to me about this is to an American ear, Okay,

1002
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: I realized that no one can hairs. I'm just saying,

1003
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: as an American when an American hears a British name

1004
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: like Harry Hardwick, you automatically assume they're like an accountant.

1005
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean that is that's like, that's like hearing that

1006
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: what's what's the spider's name, Beneezer Scrooge, Like you just

1007
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: have yeah, you know, you know what I mean, Like

1008
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: it's like he would be right, Like I as an American,

1009
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: will you hear the name Harry Hardwick, You're like, oh,

1010
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: he rides a penny farthing to work, like those bicycles

1011
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: with the big ass.

1012
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: Me his father was a cooper.

1013
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just certain names sound very British to us,

1014
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: and that sounds like.

1015
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: Like that's true. Man.

1016
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how.

1017
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: To say, dude.

1018
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: I will say, what a great attitude because getting your

1019
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: jaw sh added is not an easy thing, you know,

1020
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: to come back from, like and it's always going to

1021
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: be there, like you know, to read, you know, to

1022
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 4: refracture your jaw and stuff like that.

1023
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: The odds are hig.

1024
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: I was talking to ben folks about this recently, Like,

1025
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: you know, jaw injury like that very tough because it's

1026
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 4: going to be there with you your whole fighting career.

1027
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: Now, dude, I got I got injured one time in

1028
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: something called MCT Marine Combat training and I twisted my ankle.

1029
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: I didn't break my jaw. But what ends up happening

1030
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: is if you get injured during that training cycle, they

1031
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: pull you out of the cycle you're in and they

1032
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: put you in this platoon, which they so delicately called

1033
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the other broke Dicks. I remember They're like, yeah, You're

1034
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: gonna go to the platoon with the other broke dicks.

1035
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I'm like okay. And it was

1036
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: guys who just had a series of different injuries, whatever

1037
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: those might be I had. There was literally the guy

1038
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: in the bunk next to me, this is a true story,

1039
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: had one testicle wrapped around the other and was a

1040
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: weighting surgery. It was the most insane shit I've ever

1041
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: seen anyway, But there was a guy down the squad

1042
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: bay who had a broken jaw. I remember one time

1043
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: asking him, like, what do you do for food? And

1044
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: he's like, are drink milk? And I was like and

1045
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, how how is it? He?

1046
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: And I remember he looked at me he goes fucking sucks.

1047
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: You know, I knew a dude who had a broken jaw.

1048
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: That's so funny the way you're doing. He used to

1049
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 4: ground up Taco Bell beam. This was he's a kit

1050
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: we're kids, you know. But he'd ground up Taco Bell

1051
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: Beam burritos and drink it through a straw. And I

1052
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: was like, that's the most disgusting thing.

1053
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: At the time, I could measure it was your friend

1054
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, who wasn't He was very much like a

1055
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. Great, all right, quickly on the rest of

1056
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: this main card, if we can, how did you score

1057
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: the Charles Johnson Bruno Silva fight?

1058
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: Uh? I thought Charles won it in the end? Well,

1059
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: how about you?

1060
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 4: Because that was it seemed like to kick up some

1061
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: chatter on Twitter a little bit there.

1062
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Well, let's bring him Long Island here, Long Island. I

1063
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 1: think the right scorecard is twenty nine to twenty eight energy.

1064
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I know one of them was thirty twenty seven, which

1065
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I do think is a little generous, But I did

1066
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: not see twenty nine twenty eight for Silva.

1067
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: Are you in agreement, I'm in agrants.

1068
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, thought that should have been unanimous, twenty nine to

1069
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: twenty eight for Johnson, And he said so at the

1070
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: postfight pressor, he's like, I don't know, w how the

1071
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: fuck that was a split decision?

1072
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: And he looked just as shock too when they read

1073
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: the score.

1074
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what about Charles Johnson, Chuck, He's a

1075
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: talented fighter. You know, that division is tough, you know,

1076
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: I think it took him a little while to fully

1077
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: mature his skill set. But on the listen, do I

1078
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: think that he's the best guy in that division. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I can say that, but what I

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Speaker 1: best day, yeah, yeah, I think he can beat just

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Speaker 1: about anybody in that division, you know.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, He's shown that a little bit, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously he's catching Joshua Van as a very

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Speaker 4: young guy coming up. We saw that. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: like that's a to have that on your resume. Knowing

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Speaker 4: that's a big thing. And also Kavanaugh, right, Like he

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Speaker 4: so we know he's got these are dudes ranked high

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Speaker 4: above him, and obviously one's the champion, but like they're

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Speaker 4: they're way up in the So that just proves your point.

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Speaker 4: I did feel like they were mentioning this on the

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Speaker 4: on the.

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Speaker 1: Telecast that he seemed to be off to a slow start.

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Speaker 1: Did he seem that way to you, Like it looked

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Speaker 2: He could have made maybe made that a little bit

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Speaker 1: And then last but not least, Ewan Kulaba gets a

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about that preliminary card, because, as we indicated,

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Speaker 1: over was a pretty good card. We'll talk about that

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00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: in just a second, but let's get to this one.

1145
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: Mick to Beck, oral By basically smothered and controlled Chris

1146
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Curtis en route to a decision Whin and Curtis later

1147
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: complained that oral By quote didn't want to fight him.

1148
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: Do we have the graphic of that statement here? Let's

1149
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: put up on the screen. Can you read it to

1150
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: them Longland, because I can't see shit.

1151
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, give me one second for to pop up on

1152
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 3: my monitor. Okay, he says, well, that was a fun

1153
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: as a wet fart in church.

1154
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys. Physical therapy went well, my knee held up.

1155
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: I had a great camp, no excuses, just a shit

1156
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 3: night and a shit fight. Man had really good grip strength,

1157
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 3: and it's incredibly hard to fight a man that has

1158
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 3: no intention of being in a fight. Got some thinking

1159
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: to do and some stuff to figure out, but I

1160
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: walked out with no physical damage at all. Just my

1161
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: pride really hurt. Thanks for the love and support. We

1162
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: shall see where we go from here. Hashtag not dead yet.

1163
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: What do you think, Chuck? I mean, I understand Curtis's frustration,

1164
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: I really do. Curtis to me is one of the

1165
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: more talented fighters who record does not reflect it. At

1166
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: the same time, Oral by One he won. He fucking won.

1167
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: You know.

1168
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 4: Well, it's like the Max thing with olivera right the

1169
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: other side of it's like whoa. You know, Max has

1170
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: to be if he wants a more exciting fight, he's

1171
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 4: got to force it to be in a place where

1172
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: he can make an exciting fight.

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00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: Right, nineteen takedowns? So is that the record?

1174
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: Right? Like?

1175
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: Is that was this a record? I mean, that's like.

1176
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: From Mikekim starting to rupt here very quickly, mixedbek Orleby

1177
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: just shattered the UFC walterweight record for most takedowns at

1178
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: a fight with nineteen, which is third in a UFC

1179
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: fight behind Habib and Morab at twenty.

1180
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: And I was at that Habib fight, uh, the one

1181
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 4: that they're talking about there, like and it's it's there.

1182
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 4: There is a certain like Washerns repeat, Like it's just

1183
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 4: gonna keep happening. But dude, if you're having that success

1184
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 4: winning a fight and dominate staying out of trouble, I

1185
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 4: don't know why you would switch it. Obviously, Like we

1186
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 4: know that oral By can finish guys. He just did

1187
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: it with her Manson right, Like it's just it's not

1188
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 4: like you don't think that he has that in his repetition.

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00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 4: So it's like I think he was I don't really

1190
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: think he was coasting, do you. I feel like he

1191
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 4: was trying to get something done, but obviously like it

1192
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 4: wasn't happening, so he's going to continue to do what

1193
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: he's doing. He's dominating the fight. I didn't really have

1194
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 4: a big problem with it.

1195
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I think the reality is also it's one of it's

1196
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: the same thing you kind of you hinted at it

1197
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: a moment ago, which is it's kind of like remember

1198
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: olivera was good enough to get the takedown and then

1199
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: to get to the back or whatever, but then couldn't

1200
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: finish because the defensive skills were too good. There. This

1201
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: isn't quite like that, But at the same point you

1202
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: could see that oral By clearly had the edge, but

1203
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: not enough to really muscle Curtis around. Curtis has enough

1204
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: defense to kind of keep himself kind of say fish

1205
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: and in fights for the most part. But you know,

1206
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, oral By is fucking tough, bro, He's you know,

1207
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: the reality is man like. It's so funny, like in

1208
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: in in pure collegiate wrestling, when they reset the position

1209
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: what they call referees position. That's where one guy gets

1210
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: one hand in one hand and both knees down and

1211
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: the other guy has to come and wrap in a

1212
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: hip and then an elbow right, and then when they

1213
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: do that, they whistle, and then if the guy can

1214
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: get to the top, he'll get a point on the

1215
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: escape or the person on top can get riding time.

1216
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: But you're noticed in that particular moment, wrestling forbids you

1217
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: from locking your hands right, You're not allowed to have

1218
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: locked hands at that moment. And the reason why is

1219
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: because if someone can get locked hands like that and

1220
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: just maintain that position, it's super fucking difficult to get

1221
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: it off like a justice and in MMA, it's like

1222
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: tough shit, you know what I mean, tough shit, They're

1223
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: just gonna get locked hands behind you. I really think,

1224
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about like areas of need in

1225
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: the game, guys working on grip fighting or breaking grips

1226
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: or breaking breaking. The next team that figures out a

1227
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: good system for breaking locked hands from behind, someone is

1228
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: going to have a fucking champion. I'm convinced of it.

1229
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 4: I mean, and you know, and I mean I know

1230
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: we were talking a little bit like there is a

1231
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: truth to like, you know, Curtis is one of those

1232
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: guys is like loses poorly, like he's always got something

1233
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 4: to that. But I think it was the Brenda Allen

1234
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: fight when they did that rematch. He was taken down

1235
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 4: a bunch of times in that fight too. I mean, dude,

1236
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: it's got to at some point you got to be like,

1237
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: you know who you're going against, you know what you

1238
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: gotta work on, man, you know what you're up against.

1239
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 4: It's just he wasn't able to do it, you know.

1240
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean in that case, it's one of those situations

1241
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: like what did you expect, Ben, what did you think

1242
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 4: was gonna happen there? And I like Curtis a lot

1243
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: and the other part too. It's kind of frustrating for him,

1244
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: But I do feel bad for him on this. I

1245
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: don't necessarily feel like he's got a case for arguing here.

1246
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: I really don't. However, in previous fights where he's done

1247
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: like really good body work and the judges just didn't

1248
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, That's that's the problem, Chuck. It's like he's

1249
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: had fights where he's like dug to the body and

1250
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: then the judges didn't count it because you know, the

1251
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: people just had poker faces about what they were eating.

1252
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: And then he loses a fight, and then these come

1253
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: around he's also losing. I think it's kind of all

1254
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: getting lost in the wash here. So he's a really

1255
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: talented guy, it's just oral buys some fucking maniac.

1256
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 4: Like I obviously the dude with the name and from

1257
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: the part of the world he is. He looks like

1258
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 4: he's chiseled out of like a you know, a mountain

1259
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 4: or something like. But what do you think his upside

1260
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: is man like, is he gonna be able to do

1261
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 4: something in this division? I feel like he's actually better

1262
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: than I realized, you know, as I watch him go

1263
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: on here, I.

1264
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: Think he's gonna have to have another gear to be

1265
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: championship level. But I I would be surprised if he's

1266
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: not number one contender fights. Yeah, put it that way. Yeah, Yeah,

1267
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: he's just twenty eight.

1268
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: Isn't that nuts? Like looking at him, I'd be like, no,

1269
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: he's got to be at least I.

1270
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: Know, looking at him, I'm like, dude, how are you

1271
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: medically eligible? You're fifty? You know, one of those? All right?

1272
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: This one? You know, let's bring a Long Island Luke

1273
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: for this one. Vitor Petrino. Did we call it on

1274
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: Friday's MK where we were like, it's not like we

1275
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: think he's that good. Sure enough, he gets fucking dropped

1276
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: in this fight. However, he does get the win. He

1277
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: did beat up your favorite fighter aspland what do you think?

1278
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Long Island not my favorite?

1279
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: I hated this fight so much, and I know I'm

1280
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: in the minority here.

1281
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: I know people think this was a fun fight and

1282
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: it was, But dude, that second round, there's like two

1283
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: minutes where it's literally Petrino just running around the outside

1284
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 3: of the cage and Asplin gassed in the middle, and

1285
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: it's just like, what this is heavyweight slop. This is

1286
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: also I had to fight, just not for the distance.

1287
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: So I was extra pissed off when this fucking went

1288
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes.

1289
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: But uh, you're excited there in that first round. That

1290
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: first yo, dude, the fight was fun.

1291
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: I'm just being a hater, I know, but Asplain was

1292
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 3: in really good spirits from the hospital.

1293
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: We got to check out this video.

1294
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: All right, well that is clearly not the decision we want. Uh,

1295
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, bro. I thought I was gonna

1296
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: get the nod. I mean, obviously my face looks like

1297
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: a mess, but fuck I dropped that bastard.

1298
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 7: What I thought was two times I got up from

1299
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: a fucking takedown and couldn't sub me.

1300
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: Hey man, I told you, motherfucker, you gonna have to

1301
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: kill me. And Concrete is still pushing. So I'll see

1302
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: whoever's next.

1303
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 7: In a couple of months. Hey Dana, I'll helpe you

1304
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 7: like that shit man. Holler at boy man, hope fact,

1305
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 7: you just try to be something. Thank you guys all

1306
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 7: so much for the love of support. He's a lot

1307
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 7: on to the next one.

1308
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: Baby man, that's unranked heavyweight. How hot is heavyweight right now?

1309
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: He just zooms that chuck. I mean, you gotta like us.

1310
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: I said it before we again you weren't here for

1311
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: Friday show, but I was like, you know what, you

1312
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: gotta like the guy's story. But yeah, got guys who

1313
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: made it to the UFC because part of the reason

1314
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: why they're there is they lost a bunch of weight.

1315
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: You know, there's a question about it.

1316
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: I still feel like Quentin Jackson would call him titties though.

1317
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: I mean, like those are some flopping around them there.

1318
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 4: You know, people don't know no one no. But I mean,

1319
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I I appreciate it too. I do appreciate it,

1320
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: but I don't know, like you, you'd like a guy

1321
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: like that to sometimes get like a big reward. If

1322
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 4: he got that first round, this would have been they

1323
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: would have been like a big thing for him. But dude,

1324
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 4: it was a bad It was bad.

1325
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: Look.

1326
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: As that fight went on, it turned into the tip

1327
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: heavyweight thing that we talk about, and I'm like, I

1328
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: just don't need to see that you know, you know

1329
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: what the ideal role is for someone like that is

1330
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: not that you expect them to be the world's best

1331
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: by any stretching imagination. You know, their limits are their limits.

1332
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: But I like it when they've got you know, like

1333
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: an ace up their sleeve or you know whatever, Like

1334
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: for example, in cases where the ultimate example, I mean,

1335
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: this is an exaggerated version, but this is the ultimate

1336
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: example is Butterbean. Like Butterbean was not good. However, however,

1337
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: if you were also not good, he was gonna send

1338
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: your shit into the shadow realm because he had nuclear

1339
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: fucking power, you know what I mean. So, like, you

1340
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: didn't expect Butterbean to be a world champion ever, but

1341
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: if someone had the audacity to put a fucking bum

1342
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: in front of him, all he would him on fire.

1343
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, there was a log of value to what

1344
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: he could do.

1345
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: I loved watching him back in the day.

1346
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: Dude.

1347
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: It was always like that. It was like, you know,

1348
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 4: some no name guy and then boom. It was like

1349
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: the closest into a pro wrestling but like a legit fight,

1350
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 4: like where they're in a Boxtari.

1351
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: It was it was fun.

1352
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like, if asplund had like vicious

1353
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: ko power, and just we all kind of expected like

1354
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: he'll win, he'll lose as whatever. But occasionally he's gonna

1355
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: fucking you know, he's gonna he's gonna quite little. He's

1356
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna punch above his weight because of what he got.

1357
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: Some then that that would be kind of cool. But

1358
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: if you're just kind of good and you've got a

1359
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: great story, yeah that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.

1360
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make heavyweight better. It's kind of a shit.

1361
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh we got breaking news. Good andreas Hale.

1362
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: I gotta give jad a shout out.

1363
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: He just texted me this.

1364
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: Andreas Hale just tweeted breaking news. Eight ds to return

1365
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: to ma A for the first time in nearly four

1366
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: years against Mike Perry on the Most Valuable Promotion MMA

1367
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 3: event on May sixteenth, headlined by Ronda Rousey.

1368
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 4: I wanted to I wanted to put this in the chat, man,

1369
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 4: because I saw I saw something about this going on.

1370
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Take that lower third off here for just a second,

1371
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: if you can long Roland, let's react to this here

1372
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: in real time. Chuck, you heard what he had to say.

1373
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,919
Speaker 4: You go first, Well, I mean I think that there's Okay,

1374
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: so there's several there's several things in play here, and

1375
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 4: this seems a little bit like a gamesmanship from MVP.

1376
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: We had again because we were talking about who's the

1377
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: best opponent for Connor McGregor. Con McGregor, well, there's one

1378
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: fight out there that's kind of makes the most sense

1379
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: for him. If the UFC is going to put together.

1380
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: You know, the fight that makes them at sense was

1381
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 4: probably n ideas, right. We weren't sure exactly how that

1382
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: would go. And here we go with MVP kind of

1383
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: getting a third I guess part of this hydra that

1384
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: they've got going on with three big events for on

1385
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: one card. Getting Nate Diaz feels to me a little

1386
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 4: bit in that same gamesmanship that they've been doing. And

1387
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: it's kind of I kind of dig the idea of

1388
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: Mike Perry too, because here's a guy who's kind of

1389
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 4: resurrected his career with the bare knuckle thing, and like

1390
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: he's put together some pretty good business decisions given who

1391
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: he is ending up on this card too.

1392
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't hate it.

1393
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 4: Both these guys are like Jake Paul decided like they

1394
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: both stood in with him, right, So I guess it

1395
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't be a big surprise, but in terms of putting

1396
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 4: together a fight that people are going to pay attention to.

1397
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: And I think Nate still got that juice a little bit.

1398
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: Like I like it.

1399
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: I think it's good man.

1400
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, let's think about this. You've got Francis on

1401
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: the card, Nate Diaz on the card, and now you've

1402
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: got Ronda and Gina in the main event. You know,

1403
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: tickets are notoriously difficult to sell, I think in southern California,

1404
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: but that might do the job. Chuck right, Like, I

1405
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna sell out with that. At least they

1406
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: get pretty fucking clothes.

1407
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: This is oh, go ahead, I'm sorry, I'll jump in

1408
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: when you're done.

1409
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Now, no, go ahead, jump in?

1410
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say that. Does this also like

1411
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: you see this right?

1412
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: And Nate Diaz was a guy who kind of in

1413
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: the Francis and Kandho was like, you know, I want

1414
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: some more freedom here he is on this card. Mike

1415
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 4: Perry has been able to do multiple things with his contract, right, Like,

1416
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: he's got the same freedom he's on this card. You

1417
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: have Ronda Rouse who showed up in a pro wrestling thing,

1418
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: what was it ae W or whatever that other like

1419
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 4: she shows up on that because she's on this card,

1420
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: but she's got the ultimate freedom to do this, you

1421
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And and of course Francis and

1422
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 4: Gano kind of come in here talking about freedom. It

1423
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 4: feels like when you think about UFC's strangleholder monopoly, none

1424
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 4: of this could happen, you know, like these guys just

1425
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: can't moonlight and do bounce around into different things other

1426
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 4: than RAF or something like that, but they can't do

1427
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 4: these high profile gigs. It kind of glares at me

1428
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 4: in this weird way. This card is being constructed in

1429
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 4: such a way that really does turn a spotlight on

1430
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 4: that sort of thing they're turning.

1431
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: I actually think it's pretty smart business to turn the

1432
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: event into a referendum on UFC's practices. You know, I

1433
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: actually think that that's I think there's a limit to

1434
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: what that can get you. But there's actually a fair

1435
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: amount of usable material, and there is dissatisfaction. We've talked

1436
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: about it. We are one of the reels that we

1437
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: posted on Instagram kind of blew up around this topic,

1438
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: and so that kind of tells you that there is

1439
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: this organic interest in it. And Rowsey is right to

1440
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: kind of hype on it, and the promoters are right

1441
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: to kind of deal with it. I can tell you this.

1442
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that that UFC was talking to Nate,

1443
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know why Nate ultimately is

1444
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: choosing this path, because you got a wonder like at

1445
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: age fo is he forty one forty two?

1446
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: Nah, he's like forty one, I believe.

1447
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: So one thing I think fans should think about is

1448
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: if he said again. I don't know why he said

1449
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: no to them here. Maybe they wanted it some kind

1450
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: of a deal. Maybe they were going to pay him enough,

1451
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: but they wanted him for like five fights just to

1452
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: lock him up, and he didn't want to do that.

1453
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: So I can't say that they lowballed him. So because

1454
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, what I can say is I know

1455
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: he was talking to them. I know for a fact

1456
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: he was talking to them. And I know that he

1457
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: likes the UFC too. I know he likes those guys,

1458
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: but he ended up signing with MVP. Anyway, my hunch, Chuck,

1459
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: my hunch, that is Nate by UFC's choice, that's him

1460
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: closing the door on ever returning. I think that my

1461
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: understanding is they did not like it when he fought

1462
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: Jake Paul lost and if there was a chance to

1463
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: come back, this was the window. However, what I will

1464
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: say is one, as you indicated, dude, Mike Perry has

1465
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: so outrageously overachieved by leaving UFC. It's crazy just on

1466
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: the BKFC level, not including the payday he got fighting

1467
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: Jake Paul or the pay day he's gonna get here

1468
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: and God only knows what could happen. I suspect they

1469
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: will win, but you know, we'll fucking see right, you know. Yeah,

1470
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: so you just got to give Mike Perry a ton

1471
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: of fucking credit to to do what he's done. Yeah,

1472
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: there's the graphic. Incredible, got real to see that guy. Yeah,

1473
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: now wild. Yeah, I'm also gonna say this too, like,

1474
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: I bet I bet if Nate, I bet he's getting

1475
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: fucking paid for this, man, I think so too. I

1476
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I'm not sure what I

1477
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: would estimate it at, but around there's Yeah, it goes

1478
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,959
Speaker 1: down the two to five million somewhere in there. Gotta

1479
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: be right.

1480
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: It's got him.

1481
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 4: And this is like again we were talking about like

1482
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 4: MVP UFC like kind of being the bandits or like,

1483
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 4: you know that press conference that they held last week,

1484
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: I think it was was more about the UFC.

1485
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: Right, Like, it's more centered on totally problems with the USCID.

1486
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: It was about MVP, and it just if there's going

1487
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: to be a if this is their first offering, right

1488
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: like they're bringing in there, like and you've got the

1489
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: UFC's White House Card that has been I don't want

1490
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: to say universally panned, but I feel like most people

1491
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: are fairly disenchanted with what the offering is.

1492
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 2: In the end.

1493
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 4: It just it's such a It's just such a moment

1494
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: in this sport. I mean, like this, what do you

1495
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: think about that? Like does that add I guess when

1496
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 4: you're mentioning the tickets being sold, but does it add

1497
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 4: more to like what's going to be the viewership numbers

1498
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 4: that night? And does that really press like like seriously,

1499
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 4: I go with the White House card or something like that,

1500
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 4: Like is it going to be hard for even the

1501
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: White House card to beat these numbers?

1502
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: I mean I feel listen, so I think it's gonna

1503
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: be very hard for the White House to these numbers.

1504
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see in the end, but you know,

1505
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: I think Jake Paul has a lot of stupid opinions

1506
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: and in general seems to be a pretty content temptible person.

1507
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: But I will say he's obviously very gifted promoting. He's

1508
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: very very good at it. I will also say, though, Chuck,

1509
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: this is a new level of promotion he's trying to

1510
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: get to, where like, for example, if Jake is trying

1511
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: to promote Amanda Serrano, he's like laser focused in general

1512
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: on her or something like that, or if he's on

1513
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: the card, obviously he's I'll give him his credit. He's

1514
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: a very gifted self promoter, right, He's very very good

1515
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: at that, and I will acknowledge that up front. But

1516
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: now he's kind of got to take a little bit

1517
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: of a side step and promote a bunch of MMA

1518
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: assets who have their own history and their I mean,

1519
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jake introduced Amanda Serrano to the world.

1520
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: That's not fair. But she leveled up under their relationship,

1521
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: whereas Ronda already reached huge heights, Gina already was a

1522
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: big star, and then you know, I mean Herrolly would

1523
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: think fell apart, but you know, she was a big

1524
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: kind of attraction and Francis is the Leno fucking heavyweight champion.

1525
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: Now you got Nate Dias, a former opponent, Like, there's

1526
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of assets to kind of balance and to

1527
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: like get this thing out there. To me, this is

1528
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: going to be a real big t of exactly what

1529
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: MVP could do. But I want to make one more

1530
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: point if I maychuck, and then we'll move on. Namely,

1531
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: this to me has a little bit of the spirit

1532
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: of what you saw from shows back in the day,

1533
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: like Affliction, where hello, Donald Trump attended because he was

1534
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: not pro UFC at the time, which is a funny

1535
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: little detail everyone forgets. But what I wanted to say was,

1536
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, we all do you remember the first Affliction show?

1537
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: I got panned on Bloody Elbow dot Com because I

1538
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: was like, They're like, all right, in the middle of

1539
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: the show, we're gonna have fucking meta death play songs.

1540
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: I like, I was like, get Dave Mustaine off my

1541
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: fucking screen, please, I'm here a lot see fights. And

1542
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: I got panned at the time, and of course it

1543
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 1: ended up just bankrupting them. That's the point I want

1544
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: to make. It's like, dude, you knew Affliction could they

1545
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: make big shows. I mean, the last one got canceled.

1546
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: But could they do it. Yes, they could make big

1547
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: shows and they could do great numbers in general, but

1548
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: you knew they had no money. You knew they couldn't

1549
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: go anywhere. Netflix is printing money.

1550
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 4: I know, you know, yes, And I mean it's a

1551
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 4: it's a good comparison actually, because if you want to

1552
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 4: say that MVP, like the promotion itself was born out

1553
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 4: of some kind of spite of like what the UFC is,

1554
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 4: don't or like that.

1555
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: There's just a spirit of that.

1556
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 4: That was the same thing with Affliction, going back to

1557
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 4: those days. It was the Randy couture line. They got

1558
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: banned from the UFC, and they're like, hey, we got

1559
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 4: we're making like nine figures of revenue. Let's put on

1560
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: our own shows. But obviously it wasn't sustainable. They're their cards.

1561
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 4: They were paying out we were talking about at the

1562
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 4: top of the show, like the de zone that like

1563
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 4: one one to one point twenty five million, you know,

1564
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 4: like you hear that number. They were they were paying

1565
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 4: like three point five million or something along those lines

1566
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: for these shows that were ridiculously produced, and it just

1567
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 4: was not sustainable. You're right, there's a similar vibe in

1568
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 4: terms of like pushing all in against maybe the UFC's events.

1569
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 4: But the big difference there is they're not trying to

1570
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 4: build a league like Affliction. They're not trying to build

1571
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: like a roster and like mix and Match. They're going

1572
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: to put together singular one off shows that will just

1573
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 4: try to topple any numbers of UFC can do. And

1574
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, we've never seen anybody kind of take

1575
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 4: this kind of approach where you're just trying to beat

1576
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: them in the in the biggest way, which would be

1577
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: in a viewership way in it like for a singular event.

1578
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 4: So that's that's a whole different level. Man's I think

1579
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 4: Nate also. I think Nate also, and you know, we

1580
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: shall see.

1581
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: This is highly speculative, but you know, as we've kind

1582
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: of talked about, you know, John Jones signed an eight

1583
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: fight deal in January of twenty twenty three, and that

1584
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty six comes around and he's on

1585
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: the outs. Like you know, you have to think about

1586
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: like what your freedom will mean long term rather than

1587
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: like what your security means long term. Clearly, Nate is

1588
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: banking on the hope I'm gonna guess that Connor gets

1589
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: free and they can do the trilogy under Netflix. Yeah,

1590
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: and they can make bookoo dollars doing it that way.

1591
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's it's a gamble, right, it may not work,

1592
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: but it's a pretty good bet to.

1593
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: Take her man, And in the way of thinking that

1594
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 4: the John Jones would end up on the White House card, right,

1595
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: like in the same way that you're kind of taking

1596
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 4: for granted a little bit, like I've got to do that.

1597
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 4: I was thinking that McGregor was going to fight ideas

1598
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 4: in this trilogy because it made a lot of sense.

1599
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: Now you're right back to like, what are they doing

1600
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 4: with Connor McGregor. It's just interesting, man. I don't I

1601
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 4: don't know what the UFC's move is gonna be on this.

1602
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna I mean, I don't know either. I keep thinking, oh, well,

1603
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: they'll definitely be forced to pay more now, and then

1604
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: that never happens, you know, So I guess we'll see. Yeah, right,

1605
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: let's quickly go through some of the back end of

1606
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: this preliminary card with the time we have remaining very quickly.

1607
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: Dude to me, one of the standout performers on the

1608
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: entire card be a Mosquito. I know she was a

1609
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: big favorite to win and she made short work of

1610
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: Monsei Rendon, but dude, she is turning into a force

1611
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: at bansawaight is she not? She is? Man?

1612
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: I know it's only our second UFC fight, but the

1613
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 4: thing that struck me and you could say that Rendon, however,

1614
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 4: said that was a you could just say Rendon Rendon, Okay,

1615
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 4: so but I like the role they are, but like, uh,

1616
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 4: she was outmatched right like she she because what basically

1617
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: got her into trouble she got dropped with the right hand,

1618
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: and I think that that's one of those things that

1619
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: you're almost like whoa, Okay, wait a second, I don't

1620
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 4: see this coming. So I'm not sure whether to give

1621
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 4: Mosquito like all the credit on this or if some

1622
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 4: of it's just that, like she was fighting somebody who

1623
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: just had no no chance. The great thing was that

1624
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 4: Rendon was supposed to be like jiu jitsu player too,

1625
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 4: so I think there might have been a little bit

1626
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: of like, let's show what we can do, but that

1627
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: never showed up. I think you got a real place.

1628
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: She's a thirty four years old mosquita and has a

1629
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: great team in Florida. I just I would be surprised

1630
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 4: if she doesn't make a very quick push and just

1631
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 4: end up in like a you know, in a in

1632
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 4: a big fight coming up next probably and then maybe

1633
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: kind of rocket ship to I mean, she's got that

1634
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 4: kind of chops, right, Like, what did you think of

1635
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 4: her stand up?

1636
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: I guess going into this there.

1637
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: Wasn't much but the fact that she dropped her opponent. Yeah,

1638
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: I yeah, you know, as opposed to like I'm just

1639
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: gonna jab and then kind of like slowly double my way.

1640
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 2: No, she's like yeah, like like Mackenzie was doing in

1641
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: her early days, right, yeah, Like now.

1642
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: She's like physically putting her an honor And again, you know,

1643
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 1: what does it mean to be a rendoon at this point?

1644
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see, But what do you want to

1645
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: see this kind of a thing out of a jiu

1646
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: jitsu athlete? Like absolutely you want to see that? At

1647
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: your Sosa who Danny had told us about ahead of

1648
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: time how to win a nice win over lun Laserda.

1649
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: He gets the dub Eric Anders chuck your your boy

1650
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: beats Brat Tavares and he got he got hurt in

1651
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,560
Speaker 1: that fight, but he kind of rallied and gets the

1652
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: job done. He retired afterwards, and our friend Sewan she

1653
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: And from Ireland goes. Eric Anders has retired looking forward

1654
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 1: to his next one. Any reaction to that fight, no.

1655
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: I mean, and that was kind of like the you know,

1656
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 4: that was kind of his career down the stretch, you know,

1657
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 4: good to go out on a way. Yeah, man, that's what.

1658
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 4: And we were talking about this with josh Amamy. Sometimes

1659
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 4: you gotta if that's really it and it should be

1660
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 4: like good for him, man, that's what you want to do.

1661
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: Uh. Manuel Sosa, I'm sure I'm saying I can't pronounce

1662
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: this him right, has a vicious fucking ko over Billaggioki.

1663
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: This was ridiculous and you can see Oki was doing

1664
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: pretty well in this fight until the third round and

1665
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: then basically So's a just I mean tagged him. That

1666
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: was incredible.

1667
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 2: It reminded me of like because he came out guns

1668
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: blazing in that third round.

1669
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: You're like Jesus man.

1670
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 4: After kind of getting worked a little bit in that

1671
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: second round and to get that knock guy. I was like,

1672
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 4: do you remember Ben Rothwell back at USC one, he's

1673
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 4: fighting Brendan. Uh Brandon Vera. He's fighting Brandon Vera, and

1674
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 4: for they came out in the third I think it

1675
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 4: was this fight. He came out in the third round

1676
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 4: like it was the first round, like all of a sudden,

1677
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 4: he was just doing my momam, like just moving forward

1678
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, where did this? Especially for heavy

1679
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 4: like that big guy like that, it reminded me of

1680
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 4: that a little bit. It was like where does this guy?

1681
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 4: Where does where does this this extra gear come from?

1682
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 4: That was that was pretty impressive. And also like the

1683
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 4: way I think Rothwell popped for like a ped after that,

1684
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 4: that explains it.

1685
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I do like Big Ben, but like to

1686
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: the point was Oki was kind of dictating the not

1687
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: the terms as much, but the pace. And then when

1688
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: those are just up the pace, fucking forget it. It

1689
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: was a different one. Uh shouts to the American. He's

1690
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 1: ten and one now, Elijah Smith. He gets a real

1691
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: nikked chok in the second round over Sue Yong You.

1692
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: That's a nice victory. And then I'm trying to see

1693
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 1: if there's anything.

1694
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: Else you beat?

1695
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 10: You?

1696
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 2: Can he beat anybody like this?

1697
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: Again?

1698
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: If he can beat you, can he beat anybody? Dad

1699
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: j You Long Island. Thank you. I was like, I

1700
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck are you saying? Oh, you're

1701
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: done rang on the card, so let's sack.

1702
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. If we can't here to

1703
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: topic number four, let's do some rankings if we can.

1704
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: So here's how this is gonna go. All right, there

1705
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: was someone brought this up to me and they're like,

1706
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: how good is flyweight? Now? Isn't featherweight the hottest division?

1707
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, you know what, let's kind

1708
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: of have like a state of the state sort of situation.

1709
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: How how good are these divisions? Let's let's power rank them.

1710
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: So chalcol and I'll let you go first, give me

1711
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: your top five power rankings for UFC division, Which are

1712
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: the five strongest? And why?

1713
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 4: I think that one thirty Okay, so top five I get,

1714
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 4: I go one thirty five at the top, Okay, I

1715
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: can see it all here. I just think that, dude,

1716
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 4: when you've got like that that top ten, you can

1717
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 4: kind of mix and match all these guys, and I

1718
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: think you would be you would have a hard time

1719
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 4: coming up with the who's gonna win in a lot

1720
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: of this because there's so much parody at the top

1721
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 4: of that division. But then you've got a couple of

1722
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 4: very young guns like Peyton Talbot and robl Rosas and

1723
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 4: guys like that in the eleven to fifteen range. That's

1724
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 4: where you want to be, right like as I have

1725
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: guys coming up like the replenishing, replenishing.

1726
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 2: The ranks at the back just very stacked right now.

1727
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 4: I think I went with what I have well to

1728
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 4: weight second, here I have well to wait second again,

1729
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 4: I just think that you can mix and match a

1730
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 4: lot of those guys within the top ten.

1731
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: Man, It's just.

1732
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 1: There's just so many really really good fight You have

1733
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: guys like Carlos Prochas and Mike Morales who can't even

1734
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, get into the title shot because it's it's

1735
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: so good right now.

1736
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 4: And I think that that speaks for itself. You got

1737
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 4: guys like d Rod and Medic who's coming up medic

1738
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: Uh has you pronounce his name?

1739
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 2: Medica?

1740
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: Metic?

1741
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 4: Meticch He's he's even in like the what like number twelve.

1742
01:13:58,560 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: So I mean guys like that when they can't even

1743
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 4: get in the top ten, it tells you it's pretty stacked.

1744
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 2: I got featherweight next.

1745
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 4: Kind of self explanatory because you have Volkanoska, but you

1746
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 4: also have Mozart and Laro Murphy who are fighting for

1747
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: that number one. Neither one of the guys lost in

1748
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 4: a long time.

1749
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: Dude.

1750
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 4: You go down the ranks there and they've made some

1751
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 4: good fights. But like John Silva, all these guys. Emmett

1752
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 4: was in there for a minute, He's probably on his

1753
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 4: way out. But when you got Kevin Veehosh at fourteen,

1754
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 4: I don't know where he ends up, but coming into

1755
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: this fight, that again tells you that it's a pretty stacked,

1756
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 4: pretty stacked division. So I got that one next. I

1757
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 4: just think that one seventies a little more stacked than that.

1758
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: I got lightweight next, you know, with Ilia at the

1759
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 4: top and all the way down through that one, that's

1760
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: a very good And then I've got one twenty five.

1761
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 4: I had a hard time, and I know we'll get

1762
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 4: to yours too. Like the flyweight one, I was a

1763
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 4: little bit like I could have put this up higher,

1764
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 4: especially with the emergence of like you know, the the

1765
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 4: reintroduction I guess of Hora Gucci and sort of the

1766
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 4: Japanese guys at Tower. And you've got these dudes there

1767
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 4: who are they're they're spicing things up. You still got

1768
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 4: Panta out there, who was your champion. You got Joshua Van,

1769
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 4: this young gun. I feel like they that that division

1770
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 4: is probably is as talented as it's been maybe ever,

1771
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 4: because you have many many names up there rather than

1772
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 4: just the top three or four. So I you could

1773
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 4: you could probably move that one up or down. But

1774
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 4: I have that number five right now.

1775
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: So actually ours are not far apart, but they're a

1776
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: little bit different. So let's look at mine. So for mine,

1777
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: bansomweight number one exactly the same as yours. I just

1778
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: feel like you've got the greatest living bantamweight with Morob

1779
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: who's done the most in that division still in there.

1780
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: You've got Umar there, you got Piotr Gian who had

1781
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: maybe the best overall UFC performance last year in that

1782
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: winning and then just on down the list in San

1783
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: Hagen and mill'malley and I mean like I've got the

1784
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: I've got the rankings here. Let me just just just

1785
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: just as a brief refresher, then you got a song

1786
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: of Dong Aman's a hobby Figureedo Boutista Martinez and Marlon Vera,

1787
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: like dude, and I'm not even talking about the guys

1788
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: in the back end of the top fifteen. There's a

1789
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: lot of skill in that one. For me, one forty

1790
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: five is next. Man, I think five is incredible. Look

1791
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,560
Speaker 1: at the rankings here very quickly, you know, as I

1792
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: as you indicated, uh, you know to me, Kevin's gonna

1793
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: move into that top ten position. You got Steve Garcia,

1794
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: who's you know, certainly put together a good win streak,

1795
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,440
Speaker 1: Arnold Allen yuse of the law, jay On Silva, Aljaban, Sterling, Rodriguez,

1796
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 1: l Ron Murphy, Lopez, Evlo Evan and Volk. Dude, that's

1797
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: a fuck you know, man, that's a battering ram of

1798
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: a division. I mean, you could have put that one

1799
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: number one. To be honest, in my book, who did

1800
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: I have his number? Three? Uh? Walter wait so this

1801
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: one or yeah, this one? We kind of move different places.

1802
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: The reason I put Walter wait three is because a

1803
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: Islam is in that division, and I think any matchup

1804
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: with him has just got huge significance by virtue just

1805
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: because the fact that it's Islam. And then to your point,

1806
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, JDM has got this fight coming against Carlos Protest,

1807
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: who's still trying to break through, and Ian Gary's on

1808
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: the way we have to talk. I mean, I know

1809
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 1: he's been off for a while, but in theory shot

1810
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: cut still there. We got Buckley and Brady coming up,

1811
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,600
Speaker 1: Kumaro's still hanging around. There's some big names, there's some

1812
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: big fights, there's some fun ass fights, and then there's

1813
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: some fights some huge consequence you gotta love one. And

1814
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: then this is the part where we you know, we

1815
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: we both had flyweight and lightweight on the back end, right,

1816
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: we slightly alter the position. The reason why I'm putting

1817
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: lightweight last is you know, you've got Arman and you've

1818
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: got Ilia up there, and those two I mean literally,

1819
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: to me, within a division, like guys who are naturally

1820
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: within a division, armand versus Ilia is arguably the best

1821
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: fight you can make an MMA. I mean, I know,

1822
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: you can just bump Ilia up to one seventy and

1823
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 1: have him fight there, but he's not naturally a seventier, right,

1824
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: But absent that fight, I think if you look at

1825
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: one fifty five, it's a little bit numbers, right, So

1826
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: look at the back half. Patty pimblet Dan Hooker Matejosh

1827
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 1: Gamrot hoof, he's coming up. That's interesting, and Phayzeve is

1828
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 1: certainly a guy to take seriously, but he's kind of

1829
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 1: run into problems. And on the front half it's been

1830
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: was Singt Deni, Max Holloway, Charles on the ver armand

1831
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: so you can engage you like. It's a really really

1832
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: good division. However, it's got a little bit old and

1833
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 1: the back half to me is not that great. Whereas

1834
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: at flyweight you got Josh Van who will see how

1835
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: long that goes. Pantoja of the best fly weights of

1836
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: all time, cop is on there. Three is Tyra, then Rouville,

1837
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 1: then Hora Gucci, Elani Kavanaugh just did a hell of

1838
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 1: a job, Brenda Morenos sitting at nine, Pennes at ten,

1839
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: and then you got Asu Almabayev sitting at seven. You

1840
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: could play with those two depending on how you want.

1841
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: But I do think that flyweight and then lightweight are

1842
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: on the back half. But I'm curious now to see

1843
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: Long Island, Long Island, where do we share and where

1844
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: do we differ?

1845
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean we differ everywhere.

1846
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,839
Speaker 3: Wait, guys, clearly the hottest division right now is heavyweight.

1847
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 3: The number one contender is taken on a champion from

1848
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: a different division, whos trying to become the first ever

1849
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 3: three weight class champion. I mean, is that not the

1850
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 3: most exciting storyline in the whole sport right now?

1851
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 1: If the UFC was just these divisions, I'd never watch fights, dude.

1852
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 2: Then you got number two taken on number four divisions.

1853
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 3: Even right along here, volcov Cortes a Costa, number fourteen

1854
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 3: ranked vaulter walkers on a four fight win finished streak.

1855
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 3: We're not even taking that into account. And we just

1856
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: mentioned the Petrino Asplin fight. Those are two unranked guys

1857
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 3: bangers all day. Next up, Women's bannon weight. Two of

1858
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: the mostccomplished women live at the top of the division,

1859
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 3: Kayla and Amanda. You got three former champions in the

1860
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 3: top fifteen. That doesn't even include Amanda because she's not

1861
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 3: ranked right now. So make it for two of those

1862
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 3: former champions are ranked number one and number two right now,

1863
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: So the top half of that division is elite. Also,

1864
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 3: you got Norman Dumont taking on Jocelyn Edwards. You got

1865
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 3: Eileen Perez twerking her way to the top of the division.

1866
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 3: You got Jacqueline Cavalcanti getting her shot against Kaitlyn Vieira.

1867
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you guys know these names.

1868
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: They are all no fighters, but women's bend and weight

1869
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 3: hot right now. Next up light heavyweight, you got four

1870
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 3: former champions that make up the top seven. Former champ

1871
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: going against the clear number one contender for the vacant

1872
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 3: belt right now, best fight you can make. You also

1873
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 3: got RDR and Robert Whittaker both moving up to light heavyweight.

1874
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 3: Those are both fun, all action guys.

1875
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: Bro, how are we still on the third one?

1876
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 2: Rapt this You got Johnny Walker, you got goost Gov,

1877
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 2: you got dom Rees.

1878
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 3: They're all fun okay. Next up middleweight champ taking on

1879
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 3: a former champ for a fight. The fans really wanted

1880
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 3: Hamzad and Sean Strickland, two other former champs also rounding

1881
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: out that top five, and DD and Izzy. You also

1882
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 3: got like the fluffies, the robocops, the Bruno Fajeda. That's

1883
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 3: a fun ass division. And then you know we can't

1884
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: BC's not here. Someone had to represent women's strawweight. Also,

1885
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 3: I thought we were doing the hottest division, so naturally no, sorry,

1886
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 3: sorry quite literally the hottest division right now.

1887
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: Number two is taken on number six, Number three is

1888
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: taken on number seven.

1889
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,680
Speaker 3: Clearly Wayley Dern should be next you have young up

1890
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: and comers like Fatima Klein, not as young, but still young,

1891
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:28,919
Speaker 3: people like Gillian Robertson.

1892
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 4: I mean that division is fun. Obviously, guys, I was

1893
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: just trolling here, but hopefully, I argued. I was gonna say,

1894
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 4: where's Adam Wait and women's feather weight? I mean, like

1895
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 4: you're covering the gamage. The other way would have been good, Chuck.

1896
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 4: I looked at that list that I was like, I'll

1897
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 4: just watch soccer.

1898
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: That'd be waight. Yeah, I'll just watch the World Baseball Classic.

1899
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: I'm good.

1900
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's uh oh, let's do this before

1901
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,479
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1902
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Speaker 1: world's most iconic tequila. No matter who walks out with

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Speaker 1: the belt. With Quervo in hand, you're already celebrating like

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Speaker 1: an undisputed champion for every round. Keep it fun, keep

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Speaker 1: it Quervo. And again, one more reminder, we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: back in studio for the UFC Well, by the way,

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Speaker 1: great card UFC three twenty seven. We're gonna be back

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Speaker 1: in studio for the pregame preview for that meet Chuck.

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Speaker 1: We'll see who else is there, and we'll be enjoying

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Speaker 1: some Quervo responsibly, always responsibly in studio there. That should

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Speaker 1: be a great time. Big thanks to our friends at Quervo.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chuck, let's talk about topic number five if

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Speaker 1: we can. Let's do a bit of a UFC White

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Speaker 1: House check in. There's a few different items floating around

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Speaker 1: relative to this. I kind of want to see what

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Speaker 1: you had to say, so, Joe Rogan on a recent

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Speaker 1: episode of his podcast, it was a weird time for

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Speaker 1: the event to take place because the US is at war.

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Speaker 1: Let's play his comments and then I want you to react.

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Speaker 5: Are you excited for the White House card?

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Speaker 1: That looks really good?

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Speaker 9: It sounds crazy. I know it's going to be very

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Speaker 9: high security and high stress and weird to have a

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Speaker 9: fight at the White House in the middle of a

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Speaker 9: fucking war.

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Speaker 1: But I would hope the war will.

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Speaker 9: Be sorted out by June. But quite honestly, I'm not

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Speaker 9: confident that that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so that would be weird having this very high

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Speaker 9: profile event where everybody's in one place at one time,

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Speaker 9: right there.

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Speaker 5: So you're not excited to be that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like you're asking for holy shit at all.

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Speaker 9: How could you not think of that, because I'm not

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Speaker 9: going to be that, you think.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, this is a great lineup.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to the fights.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hoping for the White House card, Dana would do

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Speaker 1: something pulled John Jones out of the back.

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Speaker 9: I was hoping that as well. I don't know why

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Speaker 9: that didn't happen. I mean, there's John's version, there's the

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Speaker 9: UFC's version. I don't know what was the stump blocked

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Speaker 9: there per Ara versus John Jones would be the fight.

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Speaker 9: The title doesn't mean anything. You could do the BMF

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Speaker 9: heavyweight version.

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Speaker 1: I like how Joe's like, yeah, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the stumbling block was there. We do. Your bosses are cheap.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the I mean again, I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not having a great sympathy for Jones. But okay, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: are you worried about the timing of this and the

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Speaker 1: we have to ask it now because it's political, the

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Speaker 1: geopolitical effect on all of this.

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Speaker 4: I mean sure, Like I I don't know, are you

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Speaker 4: planning on because you're it's your backyard, are you planning

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Speaker 4: on going to this thing?

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Speaker 1: Or you not?

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Speaker 4: In a way, no, I'm not going because I mean

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Speaker 4: we had talks and I'm like, well, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the situation. We have to have a media like

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Speaker 4: how that will work. But you know, if you have

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Speaker 4: any you know, if you're gonna if you end up going,

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Speaker 4: or if I if I'm gonna end up going, there's

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Speaker 4: going to be a concern to this. It seems like

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Speaker 4: a logistical nightmare for security. First of all, eighty five

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Speaker 4: thousand people and tell me where that's being held.

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Speaker 2: Do you you the Ellipse? Okay, and that's just a

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Speaker 2: big park type thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So essentially the way it works is there's the

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Speaker 1: National Mall and then a segment off of the National

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Speaker 1: Mall is called the Ellipse. And then on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the Ellipse is the beginning of the South Lawn.

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Speaker 1: Sixteenth Street would be inter sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue would

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Speaker 1: be essentially intersecting this way. White House sits in the middle.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of on this space before you get to

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Speaker 1: the mall. It's you know, it's it's only separating I

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Speaker 1: think by constitution, but it's right over that side.

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Speaker 4: Eighty five thousand people and then another five thousand where

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Speaker 4: the dignitaries or whatever you know, are just gonna be

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Speaker 4: gathered at a certain time, very televised.

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, it's the red flags, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean about this because the DC guy, because TKO

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Speaker 1: has been like, oh, there's gonna be no charge of

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Speaker 1: the public, We're gonna be absorbing all the costs. I

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Speaker 1: call bullshit on that. I call bullshit on that. So

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Speaker 1: because it's gonna be at the White House and then

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Speaker 1: it'll be at the Ellipse and I'm sure there will

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Speaker 1: be spill over into the National Mall. The park police

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Speaker 1: will get involved. It's a special kind of police that

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Speaker 1: is involved in like federal property. They work inside of DC,

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Speaker 1: but it's federal property, right, That's where they kind of

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Speaker 1: have drive. I mean, they jurisdiction beyond that, but that's

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Speaker 1: really what they focus on, right, this federal property. So

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be there. But dude, to secure that area,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get the local police department involved.

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Speaker 1: There's simply no way to do it, and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: have to be an enormous fucking amount because of all

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Speaker 1: the security concerns that are there. You mean to tell me,

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Speaker 1: And this happen to do This happens all the fucking

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Speaker 1: time where the federal government will have events that require

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Speaker 1: the local police department to do what they do, and

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Speaker 1: then the federal government doesn't pay back the City of

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Speaker 1: DC for the use of their police force, which means

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Speaker 1: we as taxpayers have to pay it. Now. DC runs

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Speaker 1: a balanced budget, so fuck your life. We don't need

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Speaker 1: your help in that sense. But I just want to

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Speaker 1: point out, am I really to believe that the UFC

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Speaker 1: is going to be paying the Metropolitan Police Department of

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Speaker 1: Washington d C all the overtime pay and all the

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Speaker 1: extra pay that goes into securing all of that. That

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Speaker 1: is part of their sixty million Know the fuck it

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Speaker 1: is not they are gonna sat a taxpayers with that.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely do not believe they are covering that. They

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Speaker 1: might cover the cost of what it is for the

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Speaker 1: park police, They're not gonna cover MPD, No fucking way.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to fall on jumokes like me. You

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Speaker 1: want to put that up. I think it's fucking weird,

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Speaker 1: But the whole it's it's beginning to dawn on people,

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Speaker 1: how fucking weird this is. Yes, like like a year

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Speaker 1: ago or not a year ago, like last summer, sorry,

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Speaker 1: last summer when when the President announced it, we were

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Speaker 1: all like, Okay, well that's weird. But you know, it'll

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Speaker 1: be a big grandeur kind of spectacle. And I still

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Speaker 1: think some of that is obviously still in play. But dude,

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Speaker 1: like this is a highly polarizing political figure. It's a

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Speaker 1: political figure. Interview wasn't polarizing. They're doing it on his

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Speaker 1: mother fucking birthday, which is just the height of bizarre.

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Speaker 1: And now he's plunged, like a fucking reckless shit for

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01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: brains idiot that he is. He has plunged this country

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Speaker 1: into a war that he cannot unilaterally disengage from. And

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01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: now we are here, and it can it potentially could

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Speaker 1: only get worse, to say nothing of all the other

2045
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Speaker 1: what do you want to say, Chuck, simmering political conflicts.

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Speaker 1: It's a fucking weird event. And on top of it, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't think there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: eighty five thousand people there. Am I wrong for saying that? Like,

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Speaker 1: I think there'll be a lot of people there. I

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Speaker 1: think there will be tens of thousands there. People don't

2051
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: misunderstand me. But ninety thousand to watch that card?

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Speaker 2: I just on a screen, right, Like it's just on

2053
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: a fucking screen.

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Speaker 1: Because what people don't realize is the South One is

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: quite large. If there's no obstructions from the ellipse or

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01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: from or a constitution, you can see it. You can

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01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: see the White House, but it's a pretty big green

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01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: space there that's gonna be blocked. You're just looking at

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Speaker 1: a fucking in Washington, DC summer Mosquito laden heat.

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Speaker 4: What you know, the eightieth birthday thing was just coincidence.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the USC usually does these events on Sundays,

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Speaker 4: I believe, right, So that's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, But I mean, like it is, it is, dude,

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Speaker 1: all who are all the people who are gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: It's like, here's my view, if you want regular good

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Speaker 1: reactions to fights, you have to have fight fans there,

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01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And maybe they wu and

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01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: maybe I don't like that, but the reality is I'm

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01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: gonna pick fight fans in an audience ten times out

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Speaker 1: of ten versus the Georgetown class of people who are

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Speaker 1: gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: Like, it's just, you know, the whole thing is, the

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Speaker 2: whole thing is very weird, and we're used to it.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to, like obviously like the political associations

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Speaker 4: to it, because it's it just it if we saw

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01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 4: cataraff you know, at an event in Russia and you're like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, you know, you know what's going on,

2078
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 4: or you know these sports watching things that go on

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Speaker 4: with Saudi Arabia like to do it on America soil.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's like that by itself, if you just

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01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 4: take that is very like it's so different and so

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01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 4: other than anything that's happened with us, even though they've

2083
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: rolled out you know, Trump and kid rocking, these guys

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01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 4: with big entrances at the events. This is just another

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,560
Speaker 4: level of combining these these elements. So just taking that

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01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 4: by itself is very strange. But man, I sometimes I wonder,

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01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: and I mean I I I'm only I can only

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 4: assume that the UFC has to really be concerned with

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Speaker 4: the security issue here, right like, because to me, that's

2090
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 4: like you're you got like everybody in one place at

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01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 4: one time. I just that's a little scary to me,

2092
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: you know, like to do this. I don't know, maybe

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01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 4: I'm just paranoid, But like sometimes Dana White will tempt

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01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 4: fate in ways that I feel like is a little

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01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 4: bit like his It goes into his gambling libido or

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01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 4: something where he's like, uh, he says, should be like

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Speaker 4: back in the day when it was like we're not boxing,

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01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 4: you know, we never we've never had a death in

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Speaker 4: the UFC, And he would say this, and I would

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01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:52,440
Speaker 4: always be like, man, that feels like kind of counterintuitive,

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01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 4: just and you clearly that's the case, But at the

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Speaker 4: same time, you don't want to tempt fate, right like,

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Speaker 4: and I sometimes feel like he does stuff like that

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01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 4: and because he doesn't have that filter. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: but this type of thing, I don't know what measures

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Speaker 4: they're taking. Man, But eighty five thousand people and then

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Speaker 4: another what five thousand people on the West Lawn?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just don't know. I'll also call bullshit

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Speaker 1: on that number two. I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: three or less.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine though, basically, how that's going to look.

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Speaker 4: I just I can't, even though they've given you, like

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Speaker 4: the diagram or the whatever they're looking at.

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Speaker 2: But there is a lot weird about it.

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Speaker 1: You know. They start building it, Yeah, they start building it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a bike ride down there and start

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Speaker 1: taking pictures of it so people can see, to get

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Speaker 1: a sense of what it's gonna be. But this is

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Speaker 1: my point. Put up the graphic from data about the

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Speaker 1: eighty five thousand tickets if we have it here. So

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Speaker 1: he goes the way that the White House is laid out.

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Speaker 1: You've got the White House, that you got the South Lawn,

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Speaker 1: and then there's this road. Yes, he's correct, And then

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Speaker 1: there's the Ellipse in the park, and that's right there.

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Speaker 1: He's correct. We're going to be ticketing eighty five thousand

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01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 1: people in the ellipse, and the tickets are free, and

2128
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 1: we'll be announcing how to give those away. Blah blah blah.

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01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna be all kinds of activations in the ellipse.

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01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: It will be a very unique, cool experience for five fans.

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01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: This is my point about like, oh, we're absorbing all

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01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: the costs. How are you going to secure that at

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01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: a time of war, given all of this, and you're

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01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: paying for all of the park police and you're paying

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01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: for all of the MPD to be there, and know

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01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 1: the fuck you're not dude, that's just not guarantee you.

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01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: They are not paying for that. I absolutely fucking guarantee that.

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01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 1: That's a huge fucking cost. Yeah, yeah, man. Anyway, all right,

2139
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: we'll be coming to him. Says Chuck that he felt snubbed.

2140
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I want you to react to his comments, all right.

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01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 10: Said I'd fight anybody on God's Green Earth on the

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01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 10: White House card just to get that opportunity to fight

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01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 10: in front of my you know, my hero, Donald Trump,

2144
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 10: you know, and all the great politicians that I'm friends

2145
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 10: with up in DC. They're upsetting their hardcore fan base.

2146
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:40,719
Speaker 1: Whatever.

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01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 10: We're just gonna throw shit at the wall and we're

2148
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 10: gonna tell everybody it's flaming, y'all. It's completely the opposite

2149
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 10: of what they promised the fans. They said, Hey, we're

2150
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 10: gonna give you guys the biggest and best event the

2151
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 10: UFC has ever had. We're gonna put six or seven

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01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 10: title fights on this card. Where's this six or seven

2153
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 10: title fights? Then they just have me sitting around for

2154
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 10: the last fourteen months doing nothing. They haven't offered me

2155
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 10: one fucking fight like they're supposed to be offering me

2156
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 10: three fights a year by contractual law. You know, I'm

2157
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 10: not trying to get into a sewing match or a

2158
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 10: pissing match, but it's just it's just.

2159
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: Not fair to me.

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01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 10: You're treating me like an employee right now, because I

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01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 10: tried to go wrestle and do a jiu jitsu match

2162
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 10: against arm and they said, no, they're treating me unfairly,

2163
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 10: and I'm just I'm sick of it.

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01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 10: They've they've done me dirty. My whole career been treated

2166
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 10: like shit, and I've tried to play the company role.

2167
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 10: But you know, I'm just over it.

2168
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 9: Man.

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01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,640
Speaker 1: You get the idea that your reaction to him not

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01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: being on the White House.

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01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 4: I mean, dude, I was I was one of those

2172
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 4: guys who talked to him and he talks about in

2173
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen when he came in and he's wearing.

2174
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: The Maga hat and at times square like.

2175
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 4: I was one of the guys who was like, yeah,

2176
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 4: I had to meet up with him and do this

2177
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 4: interview with him, and he's he's absolutely right.

2178
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: It's such a.

2179
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 4: It's almost comedic that he's not on this card, right,

2180
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 4: Like It's like the one guy that this seems Taylor

2181
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: made for is ends up not being on this card.

2182
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 4: It's just it's too rich for me to even consider.

2183
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: I do feel for him on some level, though, because

2184
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,799
Speaker 4: it's like this is his whole stick, right, his whole gimmick,

2185
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 4: and you can see how already it's by being left

2186
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 4: off this card and now it's like it's turned into something.

2187
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: This is the ultimate company man. He always points this

2188
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 4: out and you can see that how bitter this is

2189
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 4: sitting with him. I will say that you can never

2190
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 4: take Colby like right at like face value with everything

2191
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 4: he's saying because you find out that's truth, Like there's

2192
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 4: there's a different truth to this a lot of times.

2193
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 4: But the bon Nickel thing, like, if you listen to

2194
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 4: bo Nickel, he could have been on the card, right,

2195
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 4: you just didn't want to fight bon Nickel.

2196
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: I just don't know where the truth lies on that either.

2197
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,560
Speaker 4: So, but it is like it is kind of like

2198
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 4: high comedy that the one card tailor made for Colby Covington,

2199
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't end up on right his hero.

2200
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 2: He doesn't get a fight in front of his hero.

2201
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't think he deserves any special treatment,

2202
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: even though he's been you know, meet riding Trump in

2203
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 1: the most hilarious of ways. But I will say him

2204
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: versus b Nickel, to me, is a more interesting fight

2205
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: than what they did. Sure right, yes, and his defense

2206
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: like I don't know why I fall apart. They've got

2207
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: conflicting versions. But sorry, that actually would have been more

2208
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Another one of those fights we expected.

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01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: I think it's another one of them.

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01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 4: It felt like every single fight that was announced with

2211
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 4: some kind of consolation off of what the original idea

2212
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 4: was supposed to be.

2213
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: That's the UFC's model. I know, yeah, man, Yeah, UFC

2214
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: White House Consolation Prize. All right, last, but not least

2215
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: on this, and then we'll move to other parts of

2216
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 1: the show. So this is a story that flew under

2217
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: the radar. I caught this in the Washington Post last night.

2218
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put the whole thing up, but

2219
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: I'll read my tweet here. The head of DC's Athletic

2220
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: Commission views the UFC White House event as unsanctioned and

2221
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: says the results shouldn't go on a fighter's record. He's

2222
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 1: also worried about the precedent it sets for other promoters

2223
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: who want to use federal parcels of land in DC

2224
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: the SCIRT regulation. Let me just read the very last quote.

2225
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: This is from the guy who runs it quote. We

2226
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 1: don't know anything. Every promoter in the District of Columbia

2227
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: should be and is held to the same standard, whether

2228
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 1: you're putting on a small wrestling show or a major event.

2229
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about the precedent. What happens when someone puts

2230
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: on a boxing match at Malcolm X's Park. They don't

2231
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 1: need to get us involved. So here's the deal. For

2232
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: folks who don't realize that the White House itself is

2233
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 1: a federal piece of land. The Ellipse is a federal

2234
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: piece of land, and the National Mall itself is a

2235
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: federal piece of land. And so what the UFC is

2236
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: saying is and not without good reason. Actually what they're

2237
01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 1: saying is okay. But the District of Columbia is the

2238
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,919
Speaker 1: city itself, which is a separate territory than the federally

2239
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 1: designated parts like the Capitol Building, the Supreme Court or

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01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the things we've just mentioned. Those are parcels of land. Like,

2241
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 1: so what jurisdiction does the DC Commission have? But here's

2242
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: one thing that the DC Commission, Chuck thinks, I think

2243
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: makes very like a very reasonable point. If you look

2244
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: at that part of the city that it's designated as

2245
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: federal territory, it looks like it's carved off, right, because

2246
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: it is. It was essentially kind of made into DC.

2247
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: But there are clear large swaths that are just federal property. However,

2248
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 1: in DC proper, people think that there's like, oh, there's

2249
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: the federal side and then there's the DC side. No,

2250
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: it is sprinkled everywhere throughout the city literally sometimes tiny

2251
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: tiny little parcels of land, not even a sixteenth of

2252
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 1: an acre that's federal property, but all the streets around it,

2253
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: and all the homes around it, and then the parks

2254
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: around it and the schools around it, well, these are

2255
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: all d C right parts of it. In other words,

2256
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: they intermingle in countless differing ways. So what DC is

2257
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: saying is, if the UFC is allowed to put on

2258
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: this without any kind of sanctioning from us, what is

2259
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: to stop a promoter from going to any park that

2260
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: is technically federal property in the middle of a DC

2261
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 1: neighborhood and just saying, you fuckers don't have jurisdiction, We're

2262
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna just do what we want. I don't know what

2263
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: the right answer is, but I don't think that's an

2264
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: unfair question.

2265
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 4: That is a that is a wild You sent me

2266
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 4: this last night or this morning, and hoss like it's

2267
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 4: a lot to contemplate. I mean, obviously, like you being there,

2268
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 4: you kind of understand this a little better. Let me

2269
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,719
Speaker 4: ask you this, man, like, when the when the UFC

2270
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 4: has gone to DC, at least the bill, when they

2271
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 4: billet that they're going to Washington, d C. For their cards,

2272
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 4: where do these events take place?

2273
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 1: Usually they took place at the then Verizon Center or

2274
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 1: the Capitol One Arena, or occasionally they've done fight nights

2275
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: on the campus of George Mason in Virginia, which would

2276
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: involve the Virginia Commission at that point.

2277
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 4: Okay, so I was just wondering, like, who, like, is

2278
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 4: this the same commission that oversaw like the you know,

2279
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 4: the you know what I mean, like the events.

2280
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 1: So when for example, the last one here was when

2281
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: Oveream fought Rosenstrut split the lip up, the DC Commission

2282
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: had oversight. In fact, they brought the DC Commission to

2283
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 1: talk to the media that week about the whole event,

2284
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: and so we met all those guys.

2285
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean it sounds like, and I saw you

2286
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 4: point this out that the bigger concern is that, right

2287
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 4: like the ladder, that you get these gorilla or these

2288
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:51,400
Speaker 4: rogue outfits that want to do that. I mean, this

2289
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 4: is the type of thing like when we were talking

2290
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 4: about loopholism and like or stuff like that from the

2291
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 4: old days. This is kind of what it reminds me

2292
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 4: of when the Wild West days, when the UFC was

2293
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 4: trying to statablish itself in other places, right right, I.

2294
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Mean, what's to stop and forget even DC? What if

2295
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: if the argument is that federally they don't need a

2296
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: regulatory body, which again, no one thinks that the UFC

2297
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: can't self regulate to a reasonable degree, right, that's not

2298
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: really the argument. The argument is not about UFC. The

2299
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: argument is, if the UFC is allowed to do this,

2300
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 1: what is there to stop any promoter to go to

2301
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: federal property anywhere? Forget this area of like I don't know,

2302
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: fucking in front of the Mount Rushmore or some shit, Yeah,

2303
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:33,120
Speaker 1: and then put up a tent and be like, you

2304
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: can't do nothing to us. So it's it's a little

2305
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: that's not a bad question. You know.

2306
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 2: It's funny that there's just so much to this. There's

2307
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 2: so much to this event.

2308
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: If I thought about that too. But the reality is this,

2309
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 1: if you wander outside the known boundaries of combat sports,

2310
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: it gets infinitely weirder right away, you know what I mean.

2311
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: The crowd's gonna be weird, the security is gonna be weird,

2312
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: the cards gonna be weird, the politics of it are

2313
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: going to be weird because they're veering off of what

2314
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: we know works. So every time you do that, you're

2315
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 1: just introducing wait, what the fuck is happening? You know

2316
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: what I mean on all these levels.

2317
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: Oh, June's gonna be wild.

2318
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: June's gonna be fucking wild. All right, But that's our

2319
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: that's our top five topics. Let's not get now, excuse me.

2320
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: It's where you guys get to ask us questions. It's

2321
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: time for dms from dogs. That's me breathing in my

2322
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 1: wife's ear. Okay, I want you to know. That's where

2323
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: we got that sound from. All right. Question number one,

2324
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 1: let's do it gets everything from training, how you fight

2325
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: nine to seven nine? But Jay hosts fourth fight in

2326
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: a twelve month span. Do you think it's better to

2327
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 1: have a more frequent fights and less training camps for

2328
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:43,679
Speaker 1: these younger fighters?

2329
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 4: Chuck, I feel like you get a lot of these

2330
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 4: guys when they're starting out that they kind of have

2331
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 4: this accelerated schedule, Like we see this quite often, right,

2332
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 4: It's just can you navigate it?

2333
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: Can you get out of it?

2334
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,880
Speaker 4: Like as as well as he did, I would be

2335
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 4: a little surprised if they if he pops up again

2336
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 4: very quickly, would you? I mean it just given that

2337
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 4: did occur to me when he was having this fight,

2338
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, he's been if you look

2339
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 4: at his timeline. I mean it's pretty condensed.

2340
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: I think you make the right call here, which is,

2341
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: if you're early enough in your career, I think you

2342
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: can do it, you know. Yeah, and maybe if it's

2343
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: even good for you, I think as you start to

2344
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 1: get a little closer to your prime or the top

2345
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: of that division, it makes more sense to slow that

2346
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: down just a little bit, you know, two the three

2347
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 1: at most, given that he's the guys he's beat though

2348
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 1: the last couple of fights. I mean, these are dudes

2349
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 1: who have been up in the in the rankings for

2350
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: a while. So but I would I would slow my role. Man,

2351
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: you got you got to a little bit here. Yeah,

2352
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:39,360
Speaker 1: all right. Question number two from a Little Wild Photography.

2353
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Why do people stick with the narrative that only numbered

2354
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 1: events in huge arenas are whatn't make for good fights

2355
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: when this nothing Apex card had five or six fights

2356
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: on it better than literally any last weekend. Yeah that's

2357
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: I mean, every now and again you get one like

2358
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 1: this on paper going into this, did you look at

2359
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: this like you pay attention to these guys on you know,

2360
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 1: in a fight style way, you know, like, did you

2361
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 1: like look at it and say, hey, man.

2362
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: This has got like four or five bangers on it.

2363
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the audience can decide that. But

2364
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: I felt like on Long Island, I felt like on

2365
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: Friday's MK, we were sufficiently respectful of the possibilities here

2366
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 1: were we.

2367
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 3: I feel like you, especially Luke, were actually like pretty high,

2368
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: like higher than I was on this card.

2369
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: You were like, this is a pretty good apex.

2370
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: Now, in fairness, I think the favorites went thirteen in

2371
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 1: one chuck, so right. You know, it was a lot

2372
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: of feasting, but it to the point of it did

2373
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 1: deliver well sometimes. I mean we've been kind of going

2374
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 1: on about this that, like you know, Belati used to

2375
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: put on these squash matches early on and you just

2376
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 1: see guys getting hauled off in stretchers, and I was

2377
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: kind of like, well, this is fun because guys are

2378
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 1: in there every now and again, especially when you've seen

2379
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 1: almost like acts of nullification in these prelimbs, you know,

2380
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: like just constantly. You need a card like this, And

2381
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons that looks so good.

2382
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 1: You just had a lot of finishes, a lot of

2383
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: good fights, a lot of action. You know. Yeah, I mean, listen,

2384
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: the reality is there's mma quality everywhere. But it's also

2385
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:00,839
Speaker 1: true that the higher quality stuff in terms of rankings

2386
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 1: or matchups or names, tends to just be a lot

2387
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: better over the course of time. So you know, you

2388
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,560
Speaker 1: have to kind of figure out what your lane is

2389
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: and what you want to contribute or in terms of

2390
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 1: your time to watch the sport. So it's not like

2391
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: anything is disqualifying by itself, it's just that there, over

2392
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: the course of time, you begin to realize that there

2393
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: is a lot more useful things to watch on the

2394
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,720
Speaker 1: number cards in general. Now, I will say though, that

2395
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: the more that they seem to water down the product

2396
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: and the more that the divisions decline, the less true

2397
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 1: that tends to become. But I still I still do

2398
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: believe in that, you know, yeah, all right? Next from

2399
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 1: homes by Garrett. If Strickland were to beat Chimayev Chuck,

2400
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 1: would it be a bigger upset than when Strickland beat Izzy? Ooh,

2401
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 1: good questions?

2402
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it would be. Man, what do you think

2403
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: I think it would be? Because I think, I want

2404
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 2: to say, odds wise, it would. It was a bigger

2405
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 2: upset when he beat Izzy. He was like plus seven hundred,

2406
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: I remember, But.

2407
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: You see, we're living in a world where he beat

2408
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: is a and so that's now baked into how we

2409
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: see him.

2410
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,280
Speaker 2: Sure, but going into that fight, man, I had I

2411
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: gave him no chance. I don't know how you remember

2412
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 2: I gave him.

2413
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: Even Strickland himself on fight, we remember he was like,

2414
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: probably gonna get beat up in this one, you know

2415
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: what I mean?

2416
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 2: Yes, So I mean like you got to remember that.

2417
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 4: That was kind of the setup of that fight, and

2418
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,720
Speaker 4: the way it played out was very fascinating, even the

2419
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,799
Speaker 4: crowd kind of turning on Izzy, which was bizarre. Anyway,

2420
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 4: Besides all that, I still think this one, I don't

2421
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 4: know if he had is he had like a special

2422
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 4: thing going on like that it's factor and there was

2423
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 4: there was he was clear like he's seen a superior fight.

2424
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 4: This is one of those situations though, where it's a

2425
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 4: style thing that you're like, I don't know, he has

2426
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 4: the style to bea SHAMAIAV. I don't know how many

2427
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:45,560
Speaker 4: guys do. And imagining a world where he's able to

2428
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 4: beat him somehow is harder for me, you know what

2429
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 4: I mean, Like, this is very difficult for me to

2430
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 4: see how Strickling gets it done.

2431
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: I would just say, I think that the Izzy upset

2432
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 1: would be bigger because it was so surprising, But to me,

2433
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: this would actually be something more of an interesting win,

2434
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, because chimaiav is he has some

2435
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: really known weaknesses, but Jesus' strengths are just overwhelming, you know. Yeah.

2436
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:20,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's see next from John Winklfred looking to

2437
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 1: UFC London. That is, this weekend, the card is pretty

2438
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: weak compared to the APEX card this past weekend. Will

2439
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,559
Speaker 1: the UFC lose interest with European MMA market if they

2440
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 1: keep bringing average cards while charging high ticket prices? What

2441
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: do you think, Chuck, So the UFC lose interest?

2442
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 4: I'd be I'm almost more worried that the audiences that

2443
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 4: they're catering to would lose interest at some point, you know,

2444
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,600
Speaker 4: as long as the market compared, as long as I

2445
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 4: see complaints every time they go to London or England

2446
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 4: about the ticket costs. But I I had they been

2447
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 4: selling out though, right or they've been, They've still been

2448
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 4: well attended. It's not like, uh, I don't feel like

2449
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,759
Speaker 4: they've had that problem yet where there's five thousand open seats,

2450
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 4: so I don't know, I mean and they only really

2451
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 4: go there. It's fairly infrequent, like once a year type thing.

2452
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 4: So I don't think they'll lose interest as long as

2453
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 4: the mark will bear what they're doing. I feel like

2454
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 4: they'll always hit the spots where they can make money.

2455
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the UFC Mexico card, for example, didn't

2456
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: sell out. However, that's a big arena, and they lost

2457
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 1: their main event. You know, there's a few factors there

2458
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: to maybe be like, well, you know, we'll see that.

2459
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean, it's not a trend. It's literally

2460
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 1: a one off, right, It's hard to know. I do

2461
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 1: think that there is a long term cost to extracting

2462
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: from their audience this way, but I do think it's

2463
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: also going to take a really long time before there

2464
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: is any kind of noticeable pushback. And so what I

2465
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: mean by extraction is it's a very clear way to

2466
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,559
Speaker 1: understand it. If you go to a UFC event. They

2467
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 1: are not all equivalent. Of course, some are better and

2468
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 1: bigger than others, but in general, if you're in the

2469
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 1: UK and you paid fifty dollars for your nosebleeds and

2470
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: now you're paying five hundred, it's more or less the

2471
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: same kind of product, but now you're being charged ten

2472
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: times the amount. That is a clear example of value extraction. Right,

2473
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: They're just trying to pull more money out for what

2474
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 1: is essentially the same kind of offering. That is a

2475
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 1: very real thing that breathes long term resentment, but it

2476
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 1: takes a while for that to really become a thing

2477
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 1: that you notice in future purchasing decisions. Right, they will,

2478
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 1: especially to the U Rai's when they're only coming there

2479
01:46:20,600 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: a couple times a year at most. Yeah, you know,

2480
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 1: it makes it much harder to engage in the bocott.

2481
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: They'll simply tolerate the value extraction, you know.

2482
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:32,759
Speaker 4: You know, man, it's it's almost just epidemic with sports

2483
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 4: in general right now. Like if you are going to

2484
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 4: go to a baseball game, even like the tickets are

2485
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 4: it is orbited right now, and it's just like it's

2486
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 4: it's very expensive to do anything live entertainment. Like if

2487
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 4: you look at my buddy's trying to get Metallica tickets

2488
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 4: at the Sphere, I mean it's just astronomical, like what

2489
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 4: they're charging for these these tickets. I remember, even like

2490
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 4: the Tank Davis Lamont roach fight that I went to

2491
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 4: BC actually hooked up some tickets, like just some comp

2492
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 4: tickets and I but they had the phase value. They

2493
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 4: were nice seats. There were probably twenty five rows up

2494
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 4: into the first section there and there were the face

2495
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 4: value on those was seven hundred and eighty seven dollars each,

2496
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 4: so like two tickets, you know, that's fifteen hundred bucks.

2497
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,600
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, this is just crazy, Like

2498
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 4: who is the ten of those? If you look around,

2499
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 4: You're like, all these people are paying that kind of money.

2500
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 4: It's it's uh, it's a confusing thing right now with

2501
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 4: ticket prices.

2502
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, in fairness to UFC, they are hardly alone. Now

2503
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: locally the Nats aren't very They can be quite cheap

2504
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: to go see. But dude, if you want to go

2505
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 1: see the Capitals, oh my god, yeah, I know, I know.

2506
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 1: It's dude, you can't. And I've looked so many fucking

2507
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:41,919
Speaker 1: times you if you want anything other than the bleeders

2508
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,759
Speaker 1: to go see the Washington Capitals play, it's too fifty

2509
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 1: a person, and that doesn't include any concessions or just

2510
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 1: to get in the fucking door.

2511
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 2: It's a person. It's crazy, dude.

2512
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: For all regular season fucking games versus the Saint Louis

2513
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 1: Blues I gotta pay two fifty for this and Tuss

2514
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 1: not even paying attention halfway through? You know, all right,

2515
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: well I think you know? Yeah, Well, dude, a buddy

2516
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: of mine used to be a scout and he did.

2517
01:48:09,640 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 1: He gave me his seats when he wasn't using him

2518
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 1: and they were bleeders, but they were free, you know.

2519
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 1: And now, like, what are you gonna do? All right? Uh? Okay,

2520
01:48:17,680 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Reid red Hypothetically, which best fighter ever for a

2521
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 1: night do you want fighting for your life? For example,

2522
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,760
Speaker 1: Volk versus Max three, Connor versus Eddie gay Chee versus

2523
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: Tony bro I'm gonna say fad Or versus Nogara. The

2524
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 1: beating he put on No Gera at that time was

2525
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: hard to protest, so fucking good.

2526
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 2: Wait, so what is the premise of this question? Do

2527
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 2: you want to pick a fight or is it?

2528
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like, imagine a guy who like was imagine

2529
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 1: like their best night. Remember Connor like he was just

2530
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 1: dialed in against Eddie Alvarez.

2531
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: A us cody. That's what I was gonna say.

2532
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeahs a couple of rounds on that fight. People forget

2533
01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,280
Speaker 1: that one of the scores was like forty eight forty seven,

2534
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 1: But I know what you mean.

2535
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 4: It's like, God, the way I remember it was like

2536
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 4: fifty to forty five, and that weird, like your memory.

2537
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it a long time, but it was

2538
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,760
Speaker 4: such a bewitchery like he was in there maybe maybe

2539
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 4: the Anderson Silva versus Forrest Griffin or something.

2540
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh ship, what a great call.

2541
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah that matrix where he just looks like a fucking

2542
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 4: night you know what I mean. I was that's still

2543
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 4: hard to believe that happened in the main event Forrest

2544
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 4: what a weird.

2545
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: And and and folks also forget this. That was UFC

2546
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 1: one oh one, So UFC one hundred was a huge show.

2547
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian fought bj Penn for the lightweight title. I

2548
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: think on the either main or coman I forget where

2549
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, and then Silva goes up to two

2550
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: a five because he was bored of beating the fuck

2551
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 1: out everybody and then laid it on Forest Griffin. You're like, dude,

2552
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: holy after two really really mediocre. It's like Patrick Coote

2553
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: and Tallis Latis. Remember he was getting maybe Demian Maya

2554
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, somewhere around.

2555
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 4: The Maya one was after it was UFC one two

2556
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 4: was okay, So like all of his own division fights

2557
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 4: at that time were like really bad, to the point

2558
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 4: where Dana was ready to cut him after the Maya fight, like,

2559
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,120
Speaker 4: but then he had that one in between. It's like this,

2560
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 4: they remind you who this dude is.

2561
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 1: All right? That is it for our dams from Donks.

2562
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,560
Speaker 1: As always, you put up a post on ig on

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: every Sunday and then the producers pick your favor or

2564
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,439
Speaker 1: their favorite questions I should say here then then we

2565
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: go from there. All right. With that out of the way,

2566
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 1: it's time for some fan subs. Let's do it. You've

2567
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:29,080
Speaker 1: got mail fusures now before we go any further Long Island,

2568
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: tell the folks what we're doing with fan subs this month.

2569
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 3: So we're rewarding the best meme of the month with

2570
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:40,040
Speaker 3: an autographed MK poster. You have up until Sunday, March

2571
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:42,880
Speaker 3: twenty ninth, because I think Monday's the thirtieth, if I'm

2572
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,679
Speaker 3: not mistaken looking at a calendar.

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01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,880
Speaker 2: Quick. Yeah, So you have up till Sunday, March twenty

2574
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: ninth to submit them.

2575
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 3: We'll show all of them, will recap some of the

2576
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 3: ones we've already shown on that March thirtieth episode, and

2577
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 3: then Luke, you'll decide in real time which one won,

2578
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 3: which one was your favorite.

2579
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 2: So we got a new batch today, all right?

2580
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 1: From John McClain. He sent in two items. I guess.

2581
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: The first one's a video larger goals and you don't

2582
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: worry about anything else that day except what you need

2583
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: to do that day, and each day you provide that

2584
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 1: level of consistency.

2585
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 2: Fuck Jay, I'm feeling he's Margarita's Brian Carible. So Mike Bond,

2586
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 2: does you know? Fuck Mike Bond, you can get back

2587
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 2: to Mike Bonaman.

2588
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 1: Don't you know the name of where we're at?

2589
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:22,240
Speaker 2: Stupid?

2590
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: Oh god, you know I am nothing if not full

2591
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 1: of contradictions. Chuck, That's what I've noticed.

2592
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: What was the the old quote, do I contradict myself? Fine?

2593
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 2: I contain multitudes? I contradict myself, you know.

2594
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I have many I contain multitude. Yeah. Uh.

2595
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 2: That by the way, that that Vegas thing was awesome though, well,

2596
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:44,799
Speaker 2: I still remember that day very fondly.

2597
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: This is the meme description. Here is the real main

2598
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: event at the White House. Luke Thomas versus the New

2599
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: York City Subway. Both challengers filled with feces and anger.

2600
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: Pretty good, Pretty good.

2601
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 2: I agree with that quite a bit. So that's good.

2602
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 2: You keep that one.

2603
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:02,720
Speaker 1: This is a huge part of my life, you know.

2604
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: All right? Uh this is from Izzy, who sent a

2605
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 1: meme are you wearing Nike? Yeah? They got me a

2606
01:52:14,240 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: Maduro next to each other, next to each other. I'm

2607
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:21,200
Speaker 1: wearing it now. I like this thing. I bought this

2608
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: thing in Pelly one time because I visited phil This

2609
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: is a couple of years ago and I was so

2610
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 1: cold and I was like, oh my god, and there's

2611
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:27,880
Speaker 1: a I don't know what that what's the main street

2612
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:31,560
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia called There's road Street, Road Street, Yeah, And

2613
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: I guess there was like a shopping mall or something there.

2614
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, I went and just got it

2615
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 1: because I was fucking shivering, and so it was like, oh,

2616
01:52:38,439 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: that's comfortable, I like. And it's been cold to shit

2617
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 1: out here. All right, Let's go to the third one

2618
01:52:42,479 --> 01:52:45,799
Speaker 1: from Rundom Cheeks. He says, greetings, gents, since I already

2619
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:47,600
Speaker 1: won a poster in the past, please don't put me

2620
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: in the contest. But he he's like, he's like, fuck

2621
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 1: your posters, but room on my walls. Yeah exactly, I

2622
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: thought of this sense. Luke loves to talk about back exposure, enjoying,

2623
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: oh god, and have a wonderful day. I prefer an X,

2624
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 1: I prefer the expert on back exposure. It's it's uh, Patty,

2625
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: I said, the expert on back exposure, and it's Charles.

2626
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: And then it's Angela White and I say perfection, Chuck.

2627
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 1: Do you know who Angela White is?

2628
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 2: I do not.

2629
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: Let's hear this, fucking liar.

2630
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 2: Now I know who she is. I need to hear.

2631
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,599
Speaker 1: She is an adult entertainer. Let's just put it that way.

2632
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: The wait like nothing, no shade on her is not

2633
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 1: even close to my like, you know, people think I'm like, like,

2634
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: that's my go to. It's really not. That's setting up

2635
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:35,840
Speaker 1: because she's everywhere. All right.

2636
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 2: From clearing that up, Luke, We've really wondering what it's

2637
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: like guys when I'm alone, all right, not my go to?

2638
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's not the way I go is a misrepresentation,

2639
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:52,799
Speaker 1: all right. From number four from Dave spotted some sketchy

2640
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 1: MK merch in a cheap store during my holiday in

2641
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: Torre Molinos, Malaga, Spain. Is this MK? Is it? Is it?

2642
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: Michael cor Michael, Oh, just says MK. And he went

2643
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 1: to like some like consignment shop or whatever. Not bad,

2644
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 1: not bad, all right? This is from Jonas. Here's Luke

2645
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 1: and b C. I like how BC is not on

2646
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:17,679
Speaker 1: the show anymore and we're still just clowning the fuck

2647
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 1: out of him. Here's Luke and BC dreaming about the

2648
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 1: White House fight card. Here's Mine Taporious r Yuki in

2649
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: Taporious are Yuki in Pereira, Francis jan O'Malley, Gary Morales,

2650
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: nona Is Rousey, and then Kamaru George Saint Pierre. Here's

2651
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:36,480
Speaker 1: BC smiling like a fucking idiot. Tracy Cortes versus Chasey Lane,

2652
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:42,000
Speaker 1: North Tower versus South Tower. Oh my god, Luke Thomas

2653
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 1: versus Cake Lady chee wee Wee's versus moaning Donkey, Reggie

2654
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 1: Jackson versus Puss and Boots, and then Less Naggan versus

2655
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 1: more gagging. Oh my god, he long Alan did just send.

2656
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 2: This to Brian? I didn't. I'll send it to him, man.

2657
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, send it now. That is fucking right there.

2658
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 4: They added flavors that he's got a donut on his

2659
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 4: bedside table too, and you don't like.

2660
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh baby, Also, I got the water in front of

2661
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 1: my clock. He's got the water behind it.

2662
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 2: They should have look at that. They should have made

2663
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 2: his clock time nine to eleven and you're twelve.

2664
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, dude, look at me. I can barely

2665
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 1: I can barely sleep. Look at this stupid look on

2666
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 1: his face. Hey, I hey, I got that one right?

2667
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 1: All right? Is there any more? I think that's it? Right?

2668
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah? That was great, that last one.

2669
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: That last one was a winner for me. I mean

2670
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 1: we'll see the other ones. That was pretty fucking good. Chuck. Yes,

2671
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm guessing you're not going to London, but I'm guessing

2672
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna have coverage this week, working folks, Well.

2673
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 2: Have weob coverage.

2674
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 4: I'll actually I will not be on the crack this Friday,

2675
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 4: but I've got a piece on Costillo van Steena is

2676
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 4: coming out, and I'm probably gonna have a column based

2677
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,160
Speaker 4: on the Nadeas development here coming out in the next

2678
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 4: Oh right, yeah.

2679
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 1: Dude, I'll say this. That Madrid card for PFL this weekend.

2680
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah be a I mean you could say what everyone

2681
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 1: about the card, but like that might be a rock

2682
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: and atmosphere in there. It sounds like it, man, And

2683
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of cool too, because again this

2684
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,839
Speaker 1: is something where the UFC has a big spandard.

2685
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 4: They're not put you know, they haven't been able to

2686
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 4: do a show. And it's like a little bit of

2687
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 4: a a subtweet, right to have like fog over there.

2688
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 4: And you've got like Vancinas, who I think was born

2689
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 4: there right, like born in Spain. I think he reps

2690
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 4: Spain for sure, oh Rep Spain, but he now lives

2691
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 4: in the trains, but I think he's so affiliated. It's

2692
01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 4: like a homecoming after his big upset victory. So that

2693
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:37,480
Speaker 4: should be a fun environment man.

2694
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:40,400
Speaker 1: And then Long Island, what you got going on?

2695
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: Have bet breakdowns and stuff all week.

2696
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 3: I got new prop quiz it's the championship one hundred

2697
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 3: dollars on the line, Jed Michu taking on Mike Bond

2698
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 3: and Tops sponsored.

2699
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 2: So that'll be fun.

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01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 3: That'll be Friday, and then I'm doing you know, full

2701
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 3: card watch along so it's also my birthday Friday.

2702
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,920
Speaker 2: Shout out how old you're gonna be thirty four?

2703
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: Wow?

2704
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,720
Speaker 2: This old piece of shit going for my Patrick Ewing

2705
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 2: year to my Charles Oakley year.

2706
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 3: All right, but anyways, uh fucking Saturday one pm Star

2707
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 3: Time prelims because it's the London cards. Oh right, right,

2708
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 3: that's the only change up other than that status quo

2709
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 3: for me. All Right, we'll have you gonna you can

2710
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 3: do your thing.

2711
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 1: I might, I don't do. Here's the issue, right, Like,

2712
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: there are only certain kinds of cards where it really

2713
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 1: for me matters to go live. Yeah, and I have

2714
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,840
Speaker 1: noticed that, like I can go live for some of

2715
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 1: these uh like fight nights, but they don't generate that

2716
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: much traffic relative to just waiting and then doing one

2717
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 1: that's after. But that's not the case for like a

2718
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: numbered event. A numbered event, there's typically enough people online

2719
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: where it actually makes more sense to go live. So

2720
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 1: we'll see, I'll have some kind of coverage one way

2721
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: or the other. Four no sure. And then of course

2722
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 1: on Friday's MK we'll preview all of this and we'll

2723
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: have everyone ready, And of course you can follow us

2724
01:57:57,560 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: and subscribe to all of our social channels. Here you

2725
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 1: see on the screen, remember Morningcombat at gmail dot com

2726
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 1: fan subs dead wrong, We've got the whole contest going.

2727
01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 1: And then of course the merch Morningcombat Dot Shop for

2728
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: all the different designs there. We've told you about a

2729
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: million times. You can go see them here. We're gonna

2730
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: run through them one more time. You get the idea.

2731
01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: They're all great. I love them very much. Okay, I

2732
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: think that's it. I think we're out of here. So

2733
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:24,880
Speaker 1: for Chuck Mindenhall, for Long Island, Luke Imlt himself, thank

2734
01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: you all so much for watching. We'll see you on Friday,

2735
01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 1: and until next time, may all of your gains be

2736
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: loyal