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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally bet Now Live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Happy March. It is March first. Nathan Zegura,

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Speaker 2: the Great Ghibbe, Jason Gibbs, Bow Bishop On as Simon

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Speaker 2: having a pretty a cool day with NBC today. NBC

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Speaker 2: has no idea, no idea. Hopefully he's not listening though

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Speaker 2: I won't say what he's doing. Then I just know

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Speaker 2: that he is well.

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Speaker 3: They should be there. He were going to Columbus last night, Kentucky, Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: That's right, he is headed there.

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Speaker 2: Great to be back with you, Great to be back

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Speaker 2: with everybody out there. Got it was got a little

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Speaker 2: bit kissed by the sun a little bit, which was nice.

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Speaker 2: I heard I left and a blizzard descended upon our

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Speaker 2: affair city here, and then I yeah, and then I

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Speaker 2: came back and there was no snow anywhere.

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Speaker 3: And it's going to be sixty five seventy on Sunday. Yeah, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Sunday and Monday.

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Speaker 4: How was the rest of your time in Indy.

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Speaker 3: It was good man. We got we got some stuff

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Speaker 3: done and coach was great with us. On Wednesday, you'll

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Speaker 3: hear from Tom Pelissera. I had a chance to sit

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Speaker 3: down with him some really good insight as to why

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick and Mike rabel or in the unemployment line.

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Speaker 4: Interesting. Did he say anything about either of them maybe

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Speaker 4: being going to being.

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Speaker 3: A d C. No, No, no, and I don't I

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Speaker 3: don't see that being an option. Okay, so, but no,

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Speaker 3: it was good. The the thing that we've taken away

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Speaker 3: from it, and Boone and I were talking about it yesterday.

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Speaker 3: There has been no news that There's been a couple

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Speaker 3: little things that happened on Tuesday, yeah, not much, but

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Speaker 3: nothing else since since you were last on. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's it's been unbelievably quiet.

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Speaker 2: It's odd in the sense that obviously I was otherwise disposed,

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Speaker 2: so I wasn't like dialed in. But normally you would

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Speaker 2: just look at your phone and you would during the

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Speaker 2: combine there'd be a ton of stuff. There just really

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Speaker 2: wasn't anything. It does your point, it has not been

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Speaker 2: a very newsy combine. I think a lot of what's

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Speaker 2: happening there, and I think I may have like hit

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Speaker 2: on something. Is that a lot of what's happening there

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Speaker 2: is happening in the shadows as teams are preparing for

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Speaker 2: free agency, so much more than the combine itself.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean that there clearly seems to

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Speaker 3: be it's either the quiet before the storm or teams

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Speaker 3: are trying to figure out next steps. Given last Friday's

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Speaker 3: news of that salary cap yep change, because Barry was

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Speaker 3: happy about it, well there and all Sarah will talk

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Speaker 3: about it. He's like the number of GMS and coaches

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Speaker 3: that were like, we did not see that coming and

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Speaker 3: that changes a lot for most teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an extra marquee player that you can have,

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Speaker 2: a ten million dollar player that every team can have

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Speaker 2: over what they expected. By the way, I think probably

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Speaker 2: the best news that's happened this whole week.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you guys talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday on the show or not, but Jim ringing the bell,

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Speaker 2: Jim Donovan, Yes, got my Team Donovan shirt on here today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this camera is on the camera.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the camera's on.

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Speaker 4: Right here, Team Donovan. So that is awesome. I got

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's overjoyed, and so am I I got like,

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Speaker 2: so I almost got I got a little choked up when

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Speaker 2: I heard the news.

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Speaker 3: So on Wednesday, I knew he had mentioned to me

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Speaker 3: how many he had treatments he had left, and I'm

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Speaker 3: like Wednesday, I'm like, I feel like today might be

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Speaker 3: bell and I was like, he sent me the video

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Speaker 3: on my Oh my god, awesome. Couldn't be happier for

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Speaker 3: you and for Cheryl and for Megan, and yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: the whole family, and it was an awesome moment. And

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Speaker 4: So that was to me, that's the that's the news

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Speaker 3: That's the best news of the week. And and that

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Speaker 3: went through the number of NFL circles, like people that

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Speaker 3: groups are like, hey, saw Jim's stuff. Awesome, you know

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Speaker 3: that's great, Like next to like the Peter King retirement

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, of course, how could it not be.

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Speaker 3: So Yeah, a lot of people paying their respects and

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, don't be like, yes, be happy for me,

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Speaker 3: but be happy for him. That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: It's great. Yeah, it really is.

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Speaker 4: It is true, really great and a very very special thing.

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Speaker 2: Any highlights from the evening I've heard about and I

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Speaker 2: gotta get I need Griff is Griff on the mic?

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Speaker 4: Is he close to a mic?

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Speaker 5: He can be.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the mic that he has doesn't work on the stream,

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Speaker 6: but if you need to talk to him.

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Speaker 3: We're still putting everything back together because we had a

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Speaker 3: written looks insane here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you and Griff throwing my stuff at

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Speaker 2: a bag. I mean, that's sincerely in a box, and

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Speaker 2: I mean that.

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Speaker 4: Was a sincere thing. That was. Yeah, you're good, Griff

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Speaker 4: that he wanted to fold it and you're like, no,

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Speaker 2: But Griff, I heard I heard that you and Bow

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Speaker 2: had like a great bird adventure together.

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Speaker 7: Oh it was fantastic, probably the highlight of my week.

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Speaker 2: The birds. The bird can do that. It's a special thing.

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Speaker 2: So my understanding of it is you guys both got birds.

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Speaker 2: Bo's bird was lacking a little bit, and he was like,

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Speaker 2: save yourself, don't wait for me, and so off you went. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then he trained out his bird and actually got

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Speaker 4: And then in the way it was described.

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Speaker 2: To me as like one of those slow motion movie

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Speaker 2: scenes where you're burning long and then he comes right by,

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Speaker 2: looks at you, his hair flowing in the wind like

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Speaker 2: Kenny Powers, gives you a little peace side and then

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Speaker 2: he took on off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, whenever his bird wasn't working, I was trying to

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Speaker 7: be the nice guy in wait for him. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: as soon as he's got his new bird, he just

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Speaker 7: left me in the dust.

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Speaker 3: So there's another story today.

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Speaker 4: So there's a bird controversy.

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Speaker 3: I would say, so yes, I would yes.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I can't wait for Monday. I'm so excited.

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Speaker 4: I have a little festivus.

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Speaker 2: But you had a great time on the bird, even

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Speaker 2: though it was a solo experience.

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Speaker 7: Really, I wouldn't say it was a solo experience. He

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Speaker 7: just Bo ended up getting the green light, and then

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Speaker 7: I had to stop, of course, and what well, Bo

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Speaker 7: where as he was going straight through, so we somehow

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Speaker 7: passed each other. Well, I'm sure he thought I got lost,

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Speaker 7: but luckily I didn't. So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Ads, Now that you've ridden one of the birds, yes,

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Speaker 2: and for you guys rode for a while, right, it

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Speaker 3: A good Oh yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was probably about a twenty minute.

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Speaker 7: Bird ride, maybe ten minutes, ten minutes, okay, so substantial,

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Speaker 7: and it was like sixty five degrees at that point.

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Speaker 3: The wrath of God had not come through yet.

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Speaker 4: You're going twenty miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that you don't just see random

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Speaker 2: people at the combine walk in like one day, just

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Speaker 2: like road rashed up, because like if you went down

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Speaker 2: it would not be good.

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Speaker 4: And those roads are not smooth.

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Speaker 2: There's lots of unexpected little holes and nooks and crannies.

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Speaker 2: Cars come in here, there, everywhere.

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Speaker 7: Well, I've I've definitely fallen off of one of those

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Speaker 7: how that feels.

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Speaker 3: So luckily.

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Speaker 2: How would you describe that in one word? Just awful,

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Speaker 2: It's just awful, rotten pain pain. Yeah, yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: my bird ride home from Prime forty seven was one

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Speaker 3: And it was it was very windy. It was gusty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a nice night. Wednesday morning. You

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Speaker 3: woke up and it was thirty degrees and you were like, well,

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything else outside walking to places. Now

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Speaker 3: we're gonna uber.

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Speaker 8: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I'm not dealing any other good, any other meal highlights.

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Speaker 3: Well, we talked a little bit about it yesterday, but

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Speaker 3: uh Uno had a drink of choice at the High

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Speaker 3: Velocity Sports Bar.

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Speaker 4: Came running back to the microphone.

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Speaker 3: I love it inside the JW. Marriott and he was

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Speaker 3: by the way, he's holding court with other members of

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Speaker 3: other franchises. The Great John Lynch is in the bar

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Speaker 3: that night with Uno. John Lynch and his entire forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers staff are like doing toasts and John Lynch

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Speaker 3: is buying cocktails for a lot of people. I saw

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Speaker 3: a tarbor be Lynch banda.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there that night, but it was that's

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Speaker 2: what that's what the combine.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday night was a big night. That's the kind that

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Speaker 3: was that was probably the biggest night. Okay, but uh

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Speaker 3: so UNO's grabbing a drink and un comes back, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what in the bloody.

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Speaker 4: Hell is that you make some guesses? No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I would love to see him guess because I don't.

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Speaker 6: There's no way unless he listened yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 3: You think he listened.

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Speaker 4: I did not listen yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I was being uh, I was trying to impress one

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Speaker 2: of my childhood heroes. I would guess, Like, to me,

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Speaker 2: this has to be a fruity drink.

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Speaker 5: I would say, kind of in a sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's guess like an umbrella drink. No, No, okay, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean it's our fruit right, yes, a prickly pair margarita. Now, No,

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Speaker 6: but you might be you're getting I feel like it's

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Speaker 6: am I warm.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's on the same. Is it a tequila based drink?

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Speaker 5: It is not.

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Speaker 4: Is it a rum based drink?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Vodka?

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Speaker 5: Vodka, yes, screwdriver, no closer getting there?

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Speaker 4: A vodka cranberry.

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Speaker 3: This is a drink. Mind you, you're not going to

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Speaker 3: get it. I don't view it as a breeze.

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Speaker 5: It was not. It was a lemon drop martini.

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Speaker 3: I'm like that's a shot.

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Speaker 4: I did not see that coming.

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Speaker 3: With is a shot.

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Speaker 3: They actually told us, like what they would have other

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Speaker 2: I've never heard that about the Jimmy chitwould had the

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Speaker 3: He was he'd been cut from every basketball team he'd

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Speaker 4: And then the other guy was all state. That's wild.

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Speaker 6: Can we talk about first the cool thing they were

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Speaker 5: Was one of the cooler parts.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they have have an hour and a half.

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Speaker 6: Still a large collection of high school basketball teams. If

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Speaker 4: Any high school any so, if you play there was

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Speaker 6: Three hundred high school jerseys just hanging around with a

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Speaker 3: you close the door, it's a Larry Bird Celtics jersey

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Speaker 4: The powder blue or the white.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, can I that's run

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Speaker 4: What I have I have back.

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Speaker 2: When I in my jersey days, I had a Hilaria

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a beautiful, beautiful jersey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was great. So we're driving home

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Speaker 3: Get you your little galley boy, one of my favorite burgers,

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Speaker 4: Are we in Columbus?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just north of Columbus, like Gemini, Yeah, exactly, Polaris Parkway.

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Speaker 3: You got it, man, that whole little mecca.

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Speaker 3: Our boy Griff can't rate a map. He relies too

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Speaker 3: much on the Telly and the Google Maps. Wasn't your friend, Like,

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Speaker 4: It wasn't working you somebody got lost on roads in

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Speaker 4: the year twenty twenty four, You're saying, Griff Dinators.

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Speaker 3: I end up getting back on the freeway going the

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Speaker 3: Well, and then we got off at the exit the

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Speaker 4: Let me just say something.

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Speaker 2: If you get on the freeway going, if you get

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Speaker 4: Supposed to be going on seventy one South.

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Speaker 3: I'm going off of what the co pilot has told me.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong there?

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Speaker 4: But at some point you also know where you are

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Speaker 3: As I'm getting on the highway, I'm like this, I

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Speaker 4: I was like, get Griff over here.

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Speaker 3: What in the house.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to do? You want to defend yourself

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Speaker 4: at all from these accusations. No, they're all so what happens?

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Speaker 4: What happened.

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Speaker 2: Like in Google Maps, you literally put in where you're going,

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Speaker 4: How could it go wrong?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think also what we're missing out on this story

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a great car right to and from.

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Speaker 7: We get to Columbus and Gibbs tells me, hey, where's

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Speaker 7: this Swinson's at? I was like, oh, shoot, I forgot,

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Speaker 7: and so I was looking it up. Well, we passed

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Speaker 7: one of them already, and so I looked up the

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Speaker 7: second one. But for some reason, my phone took us

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Speaker 7: back to the original one that I looked up.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would say, that's what happened. We were going

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Speaker 3: back like to Sawmill off of like two seventy. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I am not going back down.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't make like wrong turns. You just ended

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Speaker 2: up going to one he'd already passed before.

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Speaker 3: Uh, yes, correct, Okay, that's not as bad. But I

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Speaker 3: would like, Griff, do you not know how to read

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Speaker 3: a map? Because my mother to read the map.

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Speaker 4: The map he went where the map told him to go.

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Speaker 4: He just put the wrong destination in.

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Speaker 3: So my mother in law would like every one of

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Speaker 3: the grand kids. Everybody knows how to read a map,

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Speaker 3: like a real map, a real map. She's a car time,

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Speaker 3: she's got the the the paperwork in the car.

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Speaker 2: That's how it used to be when you went out

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Speaker 2: of Roach, correct the map. So you're a triptych he

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Speaker 2: used to be called. Remember, map Quest.

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Speaker 4: Was like the first place where you could get driving directions,

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Speaker 4: but you had to map out where you were going.

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Speaker 3: I was angryt young Griff. It was all made up

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Speaker 3: because we had a good galley boy. We had a

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Speaker 3: little fun. Here's what I We had a great laugh

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Speaker 3: about it. Did we not have it? Griff might hate me? Still, right,

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Speaker 3: there had.

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Speaker 4: To be more. There had to be more Swinson's on

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Speaker 4: the way. Weren't there more Swinson's on the way?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: I don't think, not really, not once you get.

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Speaker 2: Out of Columbus correct, not even in any of those

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Speaker 2: tons of food places. No, because there's like the three

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Speaker 2: of them where there's a ton of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was it, So you had to go back.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to I'm trying to give him an experience.

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Speaker 3: He wanted that, so I was like, let's you know,

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Speaker 3: let's let's make this happen.

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Speaker 4: All right? Oh no, first combine for you? Was it

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Speaker 4: what you expected it to be?

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Speaker 5: I think a little bit.

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Speaker 6: It was The players at the podium was the part

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Speaker 6: that I would have never thought was going to be

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Speaker 6: really cool, and it was probably my favorite part was

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Speaker 6: going over there early and seeing all the all the rookies.

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Speaker 4: Like not all of them.

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Speaker 2: You didn't see Martin Harris, w Well, we were gone

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Speaker 2: anywhere to him at some point.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to do it.

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Speaker 5: The guys now we're over there talking.

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Speaker 6: It was cool to like just listen and hear what

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Speaker 6: they had to say, Like it was. I watched the

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Speaker 6: combine every year, but seeing that part of it was

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Speaker 6: really cool because you never hear about any of that

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Speaker 6: side of the combine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah? Who was the person? Did you

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Speaker 2: see anybody where you were like? Whoa starstruck anything like that?

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: So we didn't see a lot of other than like

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Speaker 6: seeing John Lynch in the bar from a distance. I

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Speaker 6: don't think we I saw anybody face to face that

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Speaker 6: like really struck me.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: What was your favorite experience of the whole trip. Could

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Speaker 2: be a meal, could be hang out Lemon.

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Speaker 3: Mett Miller verifying his full back out of New Hampshire.

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Speaker 6: That was cool him giving me pronunciation uh. And then

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Speaker 6: the meetup that I did on Wednesday night, well networking

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Speaker 6: with one of my favorite podcasters. Sat down and talked

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Speaker 6: with him for fifteen twenty minutes just about the draft.

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Speaker 4: About what podcast? Uh?

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Speaker 3: Can I say?

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Speaker 2: It is?

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Speaker 6: Lockdown NFL pot Lockdown NFL scouting podcast with the draft

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Speaker 6: dudes who run. Friend Kyle great reviews for for you

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Speaker 6: guys for our whole department, said like, loves what the

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Speaker 6: Browns media is doing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: So Kyle and Joe are a huge part of my.

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Speaker 4: So that's your favorite podcast.

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Speaker 6: My NFL listening. They like got me into the draft,

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Speaker 6: in the NFL scouting and all that.

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Speaker 2: I feel like who knows, I would say, without any hesitation,

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Speaker 2: you know more about this year's draft class than probably

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Speaker 2: no question Gibbs and bo put together.

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Speaker 6: I've I've tried to study it as much as I can. Like,

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Speaker 6: it's been really cool listening to all of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have to have segments with you. Then,

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Speaker 4: who knows our draft expert in house on the lead up,

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Speaker 4: who's your can? I are you Dane Brugler?

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Speaker 5: Yet I do not have four hundred?

537
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Speaker 4: Who's the defensive tackle that you want?

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Speaker 6: Mason Smith was the guy everybody was saying from.

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Speaker 4: LSU or mel I saw that yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Was a kid from Florida State, Brandon Fisk. He had

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Speaker 6: a heck of a combine yesterday. Brugler was talking about

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Speaker 6: him a lot on Twitter. He's just an athletic freak.

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Speaker 6: I think he would be like a really good I

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Speaker 6: don't know if he's gonna make it anymore, but originally I.

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Speaker 5: Think he was.

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Speaker 4: He was impressive.

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Speaker 5: You're in a four to seven eight at two.

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Speaker 3: He remembers things like this. He is.

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Speaker 2: That's why when the things happen with the details, it's

550
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Speaker 2: because he's maybe he's a genius.

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Speaker 4: It's the genius is lament.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Well the smartest people I ever knew in my entire life.

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Speaker 2: This is this is actually a totally too short, Like

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Speaker 2: could not master the tying of his own shoes.

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Speaker 4: But the guy was like off the charts brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Sounds like someone I know over here.

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Speaker 3: I made him tie his shoes every night we went out.

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Speaker 2: Did how did we do wardrobe wise for the goouts? Well,

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Speaker 2: you saw Tuesday, that's a Monday, Monday. Monday I did, uh.

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Speaker 4: Which is strong but interesting Tuesdays? Where'd you guys go

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Speaker 4: Tuesday night?

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Speaker 3: So we found a new spot. So there's a whole

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Speaker 3: new behind the basketball arena. They built kind of like

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Speaker 3: a Crocker Park. It's got like bars and restaurants on

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Speaker 3: the other side of the Yeah, we went to a

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Speaker 3: place called Tupelo Honey. It's like a Southern like food

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Speaker 3: and a fried chicken. Uh, there was fried chicken, but

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Speaker 3: like they had a beef barbercoa that was ridiculous. They

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Speaker 3: had some really good like even bo was like this

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Speaker 3: food's amazing. They had a full bar. It's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we went there. It was it was just somewhere different.

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Speaker 4: That was Tuesday and about Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Wednesday went to Iria's Department dinner a little Italian.

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Speaker 4: What did you guys think?

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Speaker 5: It was great?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 6: I knew by I knew by the bread that it

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Speaker 6: was going to be good. When they bring out the

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Speaker 6: warm bread, you're like, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this place, this place knows what it's doing,

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Speaker 2: all right, so I have to ask you right now.

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Speaker 2: Then we've got a live interview.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So we should take a breather and then

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Speaker 3: uh get to tom Pella Sero, and then we'll get

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Speaker 3: to the man of the hour, doctor doctor Boose making

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Speaker 3: some news.

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Speaker 2: Today because he's a legend. Yeah, he's awesome.

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Speaker 4: He's awesome.

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll we'll get to everything else in the

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Speaker 3: two o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Tom Pella Sero one on one with the great Gibe

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Speaker 2: Combine in Indy.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you here at the NFL co too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: It's been a little uh, it's been a crazy couple

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Speaker 3: of days here in Indianapolis. And it's always While the

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Speaker 3: combine is great and the drills are great, it's always

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Speaker 3: awesome to hear from all the coaches in GMS. A

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Speaker 10: I think that the salary cap going up as much

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Speaker 10: as it did to two fifty five did impact some

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Speaker 10: thinking going into this. I mean the number, even though

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Speaker 10: it shouldn't matter because everybody gets the additional cast base,

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Speaker 10: it just means the marketplace goes up. With the number

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Speaker 10: of gms who have made comments to me about like

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Speaker 10: the cap going up really saved this from maybe a

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Speaker 10: hard decision we thought we were gonna have to make.

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Speaker 10: I do think that that's going to impact the landscape

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Speaker 10: of free agency, and I think everybody's trying to kind

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Speaker 10: of get a handle on it, because you've got to remember,

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Speaker 10: these teams are budgeting years out, they're projecting free agents

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Speaker 10: and putting numbers on them. When all of a sudden

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Speaker 10: the cap ends up ten twelve million dollars higher than

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Speaker 10: you thought in a given year, it does change the

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Speaker 10: calculus a little bit. It also changes who you're projecting

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Speaker 10: other teams are going to release. So you know, in

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Speaker 10: recent years, there's really been very little like of the

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Speaker 10: actual old school under the table deal making that happens here.

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Speaker 10: A lot of teams don't like to float numbers at

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Speaker 10: the combine because then that just allows the agent to

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Speaker 10: shop it around for a couple of weeks and so well,

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Speaker 10: you know, I don't think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 10: those types of things happening, But there are so many

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Speaker 10: moving parts in the quarterback market, both with the guys

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Speaker 10: that are here in the draft as well as potential

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Speaker 10: free agents as well as potential trades like Justin Fields,

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Speaker 10: that it's going to be really interesting to see exactly

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Speaker 10: how those dominoes fall and when they begin to fall,

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Speaker 10: because at least in a couple of cases with Justin Fields,

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Speaker 10: they could hold on to them. Odds are they're going

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Speaker 10: to try if there are moving on from him to

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Speaker 10: do that prior to the startup free agency. Russell Wilson's

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Speaker 10: got a contract guarantee that's going to invest, so that's

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Speaker 10: something that's got to take place. Those are probably two

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Speaker 10: of the early dominoes that are going to go here,

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Speaker 10: and that's then going to impact the landing spots for

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Speaker 10: everybody else. Even at a time where obviously you know,

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Speaker 10: Kirk Cousins, Agent Baker Mayfield, jasor they're probably getting a

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Speaker 10: pretty decent feel for what the options are at this.

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Speaker 3: Point, it is Fields the first domino in all of this.

666
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Speaker 10: I think, I think there's a decent chance of that

667
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Speaker 10: just based upon again, when you know, when Ryan Poult

668
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Speaker 10: says I want to do right by Justin, well, what

669
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Speaker 10: is doing right by Justin?

670
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Speaker 8: Mean?

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Speaker 10: You know, ideally, I'm sure Justin would just like to

672
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Speaker 10: be the franchise court back and get a massive contract

673
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 10: and stay in Chicago. But they're in this unique position

674
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 10: where for the second year in a row, they're sitting

675
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 10: there with the number one overall draft pick, you know,

676
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 10: and you have to take everything into account. So really,

677
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 10: when you're saying to do right by Justin, it probably

678
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 10: just means don't hold him until the draft. Sure, don't

679
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 10: drag this out, don't allow all the other teams to

680
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 10: spend their resources on other things. And now Justin's going

681
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 10: to someplace where he's, you know, got a rookie behind him,

682
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 10: where he's he's having to compete the start or something

683
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 10: like that, like move it along, get him into the

684
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 10: right situation. The Bears are gonna do the best thing

685
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Speaker 10: for the Bears. But if you want to do right

686
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Speaker 10: by Justin, the way that you do that at this

687
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 10: point is at least make a decision and don't drag

688
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Speaker 10: it out.

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Speaker 3: Who's been the most impressive of the first year coaches

690
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Speaker 3: that you guys have had on the show here in

691
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Speaker 3: the last couple of days or talk to.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's been fun.

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Speaker 3: You know.

694
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Speaker 10: We had Dan Quinn on set yesterday and you know

695
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 10: we've all known DQB, but man, he comes in and

696
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 10: you know he's talking about what was the line, I'm

697
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 10: gonna have a blast and kick some ass. It's like, yeah,

698
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 10: like that's you know, that's Dean you all the way.

699
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 10: You know, he he's obviously energized, he's always high energy,

700
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 10: but he's he's very, very excited, you know, you get

701
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Speaker 10: I think one of the themes in the hiring cycle

702
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 10: this year was positive culture and collaboration. Some team said

703
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 10: it in so many words, where you know, Amy Adams

704
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 10: Strunk from Tennessee puts out a statement after fire Mike

705
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,239
Speaker 10: Vrabel talking about, I believe the best organizations I'm paraphrasing, hear,

706
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 10: the best organizations in the modern NFL promote alignment and collaboration.

707
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 10: That wasn't necessarily how things operated in Tennessee. So who

708
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 10: gets jobs this year it's Dan Quinn, who's super high energy,

709
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 10: positive culture type of a guy. You go to Carolina,

710
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 10: Dave Canalis, upbeat, positive type of guy. Girod Mayo in

711
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 10: New England. He's basically a motivational speaker. Like that's Girod

712
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 10: all the way you know Mike McDonald, Brian Callahan. They're

713
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 10: more I think, I don't want to say flat line,

714
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Speaker 10: but they're a little bit more. Their energy level is

715
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 10: not naturally they're not that over the top vocal type

716
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 10: of a leader. But they're both positive culture guys who

717
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 10: come from positive culture places who didn't get jobs. Mike

718
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 10: Frabele didn't get a job. Bill Belichick didn't get a job.

719
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 10: Those guys both won a lot of games. Bill's won,

720
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Speaker 10: you know, six Super Bowls as a head coach and

721
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 10: obviously another one, you know with the Giants, like he

722
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 10: knows what winning is about. But does Bill's approach in

723
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 10: the modern NFL work with this generation of players. I mean,

724
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 10: the report card came out, the NFLPA put out their thing.

725
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 10: I know it's controversial and all that, and Kevin had

726
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 10: to say, hey, we're all that stuff. But when they're

727
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 10: voting on the head coaches and Bill Belichick gets a

728
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 10: B minus and players say in the survey that we

729
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 10: don't feel like he listened to the locker room, which

730
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 10: I mean Bill's always you know, players, players play coaches coach.

731
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 10: That's one of his classic lines, correct, you know, And

732
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 10: they didn't feel like he used their time efficiently. Like

733
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 10: that's telling, And that doesn't mean that Bill became a

734
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 10: poor coach. But I do wonder league where college football

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 10: is now professional football, and you got guys who are

736
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Speaker 10: making millions of dollars in some cases at the college level,

737
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 10: and just a generation of people that are plugged in

738
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 10: and they're on their phones all day. And Bill knows

739
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 10: one way listen, He's adaptable. He's a different guy than

740
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 10: what he sees. Obviously, Cleveland fans have, you know, perhaps

741
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 10: different memories of him. He was, you know, he was

742
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 10: different in the nineties than than he was more recently.

743
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 10: But he's been very adaptable through the years. There are

744
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 10: just certain things that are non negotiables with him in

745
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 10: terms of how he wants to win in the NFL.

746
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 10: All which was a really long way of answering a

747
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 10: simple question, which was who has been fun to talk

748
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 10: to here? I think all these guys are, you know,

749
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 10: really interesting. Jim Harbaugh being back in the league. That's

750
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 10: good for football. Jim's the one who I mean it

751
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 10: is a culture positivity, no question. He is also he

752
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 10: is more, is more a lot of work. He's going

753
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 10: to push people. You know, he's the only one of

754
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 10: like you know, age demographic two, the only older coach.

755
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 10: He's sixty or sixty one. He's the only older coach

756
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 10: who got a job. Everybody else was like raheem and

757
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 10: even DQ, I guess is a little bit older category.

758
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 10: But like those two guys were hem positive type of

759
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 10: a culture guy. DQ positive culture guy. That seems to

760
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 10: be where things are going. Having said that, these things

761
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 10: tend to be cyclical. And if a few of like

762
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 10: the positive culture guys win two games this year and

763
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 10: all get fired, watch it come back? Do we need

764
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 10: people who are gonna instill that accountability? And you know,

765
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 10: that's that's kind of how it works. But I do

766
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 10: think that there's something too when you watch all these

767
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 10: young guys coming in here. And I was in the

768
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 10: stadium yesterday and just happened. I was getting make up upstairs.

769
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 10: I need it, and you know, looking down, I could

770
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 10: actually see in where the players were having lunch, and

771
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 10: you know, there were a couple players sitting together, but

772
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 10: a bunch of the other guys, it's headphones on.

773
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: They're on their phones, they're alone.

774
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 10: That's just it's it's different now.

775
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: Young people are very different.

776
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Speaker 10: You know, my kids are going to grow up in

777
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 10: a different environment than you and I did you know

778
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 10: when we were growing up, Like we we go check

779
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 10: into a hotel and my seven year old's like, I

780
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 10: want to watch Netflix. I'm like, you can't, Like we

781
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 10: forgot the roku. Can't do it. You're gonna have to

782
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 10: know it's like, oh, I want to watch this. I

783
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 10: want to start this over.

784
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: You can't.

785
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 10: He is to have to turn on the TV and

786
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 10: deal with it.

787
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: Like you're growing up.

788
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 10: Your brain is wired differently here.

789
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 9: You know.

790
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 10: Again, we'll see how all these you know, the positive

791
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 10: culture guys go. But you know, Kevin is somebody who

792
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 10: brought a lot of positivity. He's also another more like

793
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 10: you know Brian Callahan where he's a little bit more.

794
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 10: I mean, he's as flat lined as you're gonna get.

795
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 10: You see Kevin g every now and then show a

796
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 10: motion on the sideline. But again, he instilled, you know,

797
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 10: positivity and belief and there's great collaboration with him and

798
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 10: Andrew Berry, which is you know, you look at those

799
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 10: organizations that are working well together. I think the bottom line,

800
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 10: and an extraordinarily long answer now is owners want to

801
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 10: feel like winning is fun and like they're a part

802
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 10: of it and with you know, whether it's Mike Vrabel,

803
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 10: Bill Belchick again, fantastic coaches, but it may not always

804
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 10: be fun, and it may not always be we're all

805
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 10: in this together. It's what I would call the football God,

806
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 10: which Nick Saban walks away from college football too. I

807
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 10: don't know that the one person in charge of everything

808
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 10: works at this point. The closest thing we're going to

809
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 10: see now is Jim Harbaugh going to LA. They brought

810
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 10: in Joe Hortiz, who you guys know well for being

811
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 10: in the AFC North. You know, Jim's gonna have a

812
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 10: lot of power here and we'll see how that goes.

813
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: But he's won everywhere where he's been.

814
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an influx of college coaches because of

815
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 3: the NIL and college coaches realizing maybe the NFL it's

816
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: just all about the ball. I don't have to worry

817
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: about trying to sell a kid on the program, then

818
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 3: find the money to give the kid.

819
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 10: And that's the whole thing. Like you know, I went

820
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 10: to Boston College and Jeff Hafley was coaching there.

821
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: He just left.

822
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 10: He was back a few years ago, that's right, and

823
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 10: people were like shocked, like why would he leave? Well,

824
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 10: you know I went out there. They had a Friday

825
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 10: night game against Duke a couple of years ago, and

826
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 10: ever since Halfley got the job, I sort of knewhim.

827
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 10: We had a lot of mutual friends. He's part of

828
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 10: you know, the Shanahan Tree or worked with all those guys.

829
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 10: But so, you know, we'd text back it for the

830
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 10: I was like, you got to come out for a game.

831
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 10: So I went out, you know for a Friday night game.

832
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 10: And you know, I went to the team meeting the

833
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 10: night before. He had me there and then we sat

834
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 10: down and talked and he was like, dude, the chill

835
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 10: lenges of this program. Okay, Alabama's in one in one

836
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 10: case or Texas. You know when you have these you know,

837
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 10: bunch of oil magnets who are boosters and.

838
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: Have all this money.

839
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 10: If you're everybody else in college football, it's you have

840
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 10: to at a place like BC rigorous academic standards. Of course,

841
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 10: because they let me in, Like you have to get

842
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 10: kids who can get into school. You have to be

843
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 10: able to recruit them to a program where your best

844
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 10: case scenario is you can compete with Clemson, you're probably

845
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 10: not beating them year in and year out. Then if

846
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 10: you're like Halfley and you took over a program where

847
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 10: the previous regime had really not recruited, there were not

848
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 10: a lot of guys left, you know, from like Steve

849
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 10: Dazio's final you know, final recruiting classes. So then you're

850
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 10: playing a bunch of freshmen. Well, when the freshmen play

851
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 10: and some of them play, well, those are the guys

852
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 10: that the big schools now are offering money. So right

853
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 10: after the season as a transfer window, even if you

854
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 10: retain guys and you're never gonna be able to compete

855
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 10: with money, you got to compete with Hey, you're part

856
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 10: of something here, like we're building this the best thing

857
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 10: for your career.

858
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: You keep him, you go through.

859
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 10: Spring ball, there's another transfer window where guys are getting paid,

860
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 10: you know, and getting offers to leave. So you got

861
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 10: to re recruit your own players twice a year. Half

862
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 10: they had great recruiting classes within the context of you're

863
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 10: at Boston College. I mean he would have like top

864
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 10: twenty five recruiting classes, but then you got to re

865
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 10: recruit him again and again. And unless you get a

866
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 10: zay Flowers who gets offered I think like three hundred

867
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 10: thousand dollars to go to, the SEC turns it down

868
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 10: because they sell them on Hey, you're gonna get the

869
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 10: ball twenty times a game. Here, we're gonna scheme stuff up.

870
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 10: You're gonna become the leading receiver in BC history. You're

871
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 10: gonna graduate. His parents are big believers in hey, finish,

872
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 10: finish what you started, and he stayed. There's not a

873
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 10: lot of zay Flowers out there. It's just it's a

874
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 10: hard environment to have any type of consistency, much less

875
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 10: to have any type of a life. Because if you

876
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 10: told me twice a year, I've got to like re

877
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Speaker 10: recruit all my producers and camera people, and may you

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Speaker 10: told me that every year they're just all leaving. I

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Speaker 10: gotta get them back. I don't know that I would

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Speaker 10: really want to be doing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, one quick, one thirty seconds because pr go,

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Speaker 3: I really I.

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Speaker 10: Ran out the clock. Oh honestly, that was like my

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Speaker 10: best Bill Belichick impression was giving. You asked me a short,

885
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Speaker 10: short question that I want to answer, and then I

886
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Speaker 10: just talked about it as long as possible, so you don't

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Speaker 10: ask me.

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Speaker 3: But it makes sense. It totally makes sense. Insiders first year,

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Speaker 3: I know, our show is live from one to three

890
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Speaker 3: Monday through Friday.

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Speaker 10: So you're taking away the runs in Cleveland. I keep

892
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Speaker 10: getting the numbers, and Cleveland's the only place for not

893
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Speaker 10: getting watched.

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Speaker 3: We we're watching it. I'm watching it and taking your stuff.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what we're doing. What's it been like working

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Speaker 3: with a garafolo and rap sheet.

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Speaker 10: It's been a lot of fun. You know, we go

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Speaker 10: back Mike Ian and I, I mean go way back

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Speaker 10: to when we were all working at different outlets, and

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Speaker 10: you know, Mike was at USA Today and then he

901
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Speaker 10: was getting me on board of the USA Today and

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Speaker 10: he literally left the day I was interviewing and went

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Speaker 10: to Fox and so like we were always trying to

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Speaker 10: you know, form the Megatron and get us all on

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Speaker 10: the same page, which finally happened in twenty seventeen. So

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Speaker 10: you know, we had different iterations of a podcast and

907
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Speaker 10: then we did a fast streaming show. But you know,

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Speaker 10: this show this year, especially the show's did the last

909
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Speaker 10: two days and having just great guests, and you know,

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Speaker 10: the number of people in the league and in the

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Speaker 10: industry who watch the show. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 10: And there's so many people who come up to me

913
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Speaker 10: and this is like the truth and like the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 10: Walking around, they'll come up and go, hey, the Insiders,

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Speaker 10: which is great because they know the name of the show.

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Speaker 4: It's not just hey, I see.

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Speaker 10: You're that guy on ESPN. It's like no, sort of yeah,

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Speaker 10: close enough, it's like, no, they know what the show is.

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Speaker 10: I think it's just I think people enjoy it. I

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Speaker 10: hope they do, because we honestly are you know, buddies.

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Speaker 10: We'll murder each other at times over dumb stuff, but

922
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Speaker 10: like we're you know, we all get along. We try

923
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Speaker 10: to hit every team in the league. We try to

924
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Speaker 10: have all the information. We try to entertain people as well.

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Speaker 10: So we did the two shows here. I'm hopeful we're

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Speaker 10: going to do some more shows, maybe around the Draft.

927
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Speaker 10: I know we've got one. We got Free Agency Friends

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Speaker 10: and coming up March eleventh through thirteenth, perfect round the clock,

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Speaker 10: NFL Networks. You don't want to miss happy. I'm told

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Speaker 10: we're doing The Insiders the day after that on the

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Speaker 10: fourteenth as well to kind of go through everything that's

932
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Speaker 10: already happened to have some of those loose, and so

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Speaker 10: we're having a great time.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you absolutely. Tom Pelosero, NFL Network Insider, NFL

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Speaker 3: Combine coverage on NFL Network Saturday and Sunday at one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the time, all the best you got man.

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Speaker 4: Great job. GIVEBA. Thanks buddy, You're welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks, Yeah, you do a great great interview right there,

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Speaker 2: Tom pelo Saro. When we come back, doctor vouss some

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Speaker 2: big news. We're going to tell you that all about

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Speaker 2: Keep it Twisted Cleveland, and we are joined on the

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Speaker 2: hotline by the head team physician for your Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 2: doctor James Vuss.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Vus, great to talk.

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Speaker 2: With you, and then also to let the people know,

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Speaker 2: congratulations you have been elected the NFL Physician Society President

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Speaker 2: for a two year tenure.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations man, thanks, Nate, really appreciate it. So how does

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Speaker 4: this come about? Tell us what this means? What will

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Speaker 4: your role be as a president of the NFL Physician Society.

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Speaker 9: This is a really humbling position to film representing some

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Speaker 9: of the best team physicians across the country and across

963
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Speaker 9: the world. Both are orthopedic and medical team physicians, So

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Speaker 9: this society is solely focused on the health and safety

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Speaker 9: of our athletes, and so it's a pleasure to represent

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Speaker 9: this group where we can all collectively provide the safest

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Speaker 9: atmosphere for our athletes to play football.

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Speaker 2: And you're replacing the outgoing NFLPS president forty nine er

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Speaker 2: said team pysian doctor Timothy McAdams. What's has he given

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Speaker 2: you any advice on how to how to do this

971
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Speaker 2: or any any little nuggets to get you ready?

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Speaker 9: Doctor mcamas has been a wonderful mentor, and it's as

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Speaker 9: is with most organizations. It's really about collaboration and communication,

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Speaker 9: and so it's a great opportunity where he's really helped

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Speaker 9: to fill me in on how things have been successful

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Speaker 9: in the past, and we've really over the last couple

977
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Speaker 9: of years become very collaborative, not only with the NFL

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Speaker 9: and the Players Association, but also with the other medical

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Speaker 9: societies and the NFL and Major League Baseball and Major

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Speaker 9: League Soccer in the NBA. So that's what we're looking

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Speaker 9: forward to, is really sharing our knowledge with all of

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Speaker 9: the sports societies across the country.

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Speaker 2: You've been the head team posician for the Browns since

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Speaker 2: twenty and fourteen. What's the biggest change in perhaps the learning,

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Speaker 2: the care the solutions for athletes that you've seen over

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Speaker 2: the last decade and now you know, as you go

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Speaker 2: from not only being the head team physicians for the

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Speaker 2: Browns but to the president of the NFL Physician Society.

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Speaker 9: It's really been a very one of the more exciting

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Speaker 9: parts of my career to be a part and to

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Speaker 9: witness all the changes that have occurred. The NFL and

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Speaker 9: the owners really have taken the initiative of health and

993
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Speaker 9: safety really to another level, and as good and I

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Speaker 9: think better than any other society. And number one is

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Speaker 9: our mode of operation of becoming proactive and preventative versus reactive.

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Speaker 9: All of the use of our technology and our workout

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Speaker 9: programs to work to prevent injuries and to identify those

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Speaker 9: players that may be at risk for injury. So that's

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Speaker 9: number one. Number two is really a change in the

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Speaker 9: equipment and the rules of the game, all focused towards safety,

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Speaker 9: our new helmets, the way the surfaces are. And then

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Speaker 9: the third is the technology available to us. The data

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Speaker 9: and the wearable technology really is more dat and than

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Speaker 9: we've ever had before and really helps us to be

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Speaker 9: predictive to keep our players safer.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to throw a couple of things

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Speaker 2: at you based on what you just said there. The

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Speaker 2: first would be kind of in this role, now, will

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Speaker 2: you be? For example, we've seen a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: about how they want to change kickoffs.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's going to be the XFL rule.

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Speaker 2: As the president of the Team Physician Society, are you

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Speaker 2: kind of helping the football people understand the medical impact

1014
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Speaker 2: of they're starting at five yards apart, ten yards apart

1015
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Speaker 2: in those differences so that they can come up with

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Speaker 2: an exciting play that also is still safe.

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Speaker 9: It's a great part of representing the expertise of this

1018
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Speaker 9: society as we get to work with Alan Fills, who's

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Speaker 9: the Chief Medical Officer for the NFL on things. Just

1020
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Speaker 9: as you're mentioning the kickoff rule and the hip drop

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Speaker 9: tackle and those types of rules changes, we can provide

1022
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Speaker 9: the healthcare data and the risk of what those rules

1023
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Speaker 9: changes may help to effect. So it's great to be

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Speaker 9: a part of something you know is going to help

1025
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Speaker 9: along prolonged player's careers and still keep the game entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Talking with Brown's head team physician, doctor James Vous, who

1027
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Speaker 2: has just recently elected the NFL Physician Society President, and

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Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm sure got you there

1029
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Speaker 2: is your humility because you mentioned wearable technology, but you

1030
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Speaker 2: didn't mention that you are the recipient of the NFLPS

1031
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Speaker 2: highest Award for Academic Excellence last year for your research

1032
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Speaker 2: with wearable technology, So that obviously is something near and

1033
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Speaker 2: dear to your heart. How is it being implemented so

1034
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: that you can decrease injury occurrence but then also help

1035
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Speaker 2: with recovery.

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Speaker 9: And we're able to watch our player workloads. In the past,

1037
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Speaker 9: we used to see this person lost a lot of

1038
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Speaker 9: weight during practice, so they look a little fatigued. Now

1039
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Speaker 9: we get very detailed data as to how that athlete

1040
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Speaker 9: is performing, so if we see a drop off in

1041
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Speaker 9: that data or a change in the data, we can

1042
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Speaker 9: react and intervene before an injury occurs or help somebody

1043
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Speaker 9: come back from an injury. And then the really citing

1044
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Speaker 9: part is using new technologies to help people recover from surgery,

1045
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Speaker 9: and that's where our research group was fortunate enough to

1046
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Speaker 9: receive the NFL Research Award helping our athletes come back

1047
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Speaker 9: from ACL surgery by monitoring them internally, monitoring and how

1048
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Speaker 9: their muscle oxygen returns, so it's not just looking at

1049
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Speaker 9: how they're running, and we can truly see if their

1050
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Speaker 9: body is ready to return. So great, really really added

1051
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Speaker 9: things of being part of an organization like this, and

1052
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Speaker 9: being part of the Cleveland Browns organization where you can

1053
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Speaker 9: have an impact on all of sports.

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Speaker 4: You certainly are.

1055
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Speaker 2: So when you got elected, were you able to did

1056
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Speaker 2: you get to give like an inauguration speech?

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Speaker 9: We just gave a very very brief thank you, and

1058
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Speaker 9: really we have such a wonderful group of team physicians

1059
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Speaker 9: and that was really thanking all of the great leaders

1060
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Speaker 9: that have been here before me and all of our

1061
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 9: mentors here in the NFL. It's such a great group

1062
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Speaker 9: of physicians that really care about taking care of each

1063
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Speaker 9: other and keeping athletes safe. So for me it was

1064
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Speaker 9: a few words of thanks and gratitude to be able

1065
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Speaker 9: to serve an organization that's done so much for my career.

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Speaker 2: Right back to the humility again, doctor Voss and ailing

1067
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Speaker 2: it there all Right, what did you have though? I

1068
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Speaker 2: imagine you when you've probably thought about the potential that

1069
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Speaker 2: this could happen, right, And everybody who was in that role,

1070
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Speaker 2: I imagine over their two years wants to not necessarily

1071
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Speaker 2: put their stamp on it, but probably has an idea

1072
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Speaker 2: or maybe a focus of what they want to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: As the NFLPS president, do you have kind of your

1074
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: your platform or your areas that are most important to

1075
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: focus on?

1076
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Speaker 4: For you?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and number one is to continue providing the most

1078
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Speaker 9: state of the art care to all of our athletes.

1079
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Speaker 9: That's first and foremost. Where everything we do is making

1080
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Speaker 9: an impact on making football safer. But we want every

1081
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 9: venue that a game is played at to have those

1082
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 9: standardized emergency action plans so we know that the safety

1083
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 9: if there were a catastrophic event, whether we're in Brazil

1084
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 9: or London, or Cleveland or Buffalo, that that same level

1085
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Speaker 9: of care is at every stadium. We're continuing to integrate

1086
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Speaker 9: new technology into the care of our players. You see

1087
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Speaker 9: on TV all of the data that runs, so really

1088
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Speaker 9: using that data to truly help take better care of

1089
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Speaker 9: our athletes. So we've taken some formal steps to integrate

1090
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 9: that technology. And then finally we have all of these

1091
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 9: wonderful new surgical procedures and new ways to rehabilitate our athletes.

1092
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Speaker 9: Really bringing those to the forefront to help our athletes

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Speaker 9: return safer. And every year you hear about a player

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Speaker 9: here and there that is able to come back quicker

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00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 9: or have a prolonged career from our medical advancements. So

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Speaker 9: we really want to highlight those and bring those to

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Speaker 9: the forefront.

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Speaker 2: And one of the places that a lot of these

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Speaker 2: innovations are probably going to come out of university hospitals.

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Speaker 2: Our great partner here with the Cleveland Browns, just opened

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Speaker 2: the HASM Sports Innovation Center. What's kind of the work

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Speaker 2: there and is that something that you think is going

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Speaker 2: to trickle into obviously what you're doing here not only

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Speaker 2: with the Browns, but now in every team in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: given your role as the president.

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Speaker 9: And this is a great partnership and program with university

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Speaker 9: hospitals and with the really gracious gift of the HOUSLMS.

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Speaker 9: It really shows how much they care about the health

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00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 9: of athletes and about the community to really help to

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Speaker 9: create this Sports Innovation Center, and really our whole theme

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Speaker 9: of it is to enhance the lives of athletes and

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Speaker 9: we're doing that by investing in new technology, finding that

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Speaker 9: next new device or next new program that we can

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00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 9: then fund and help develop to bring those things to

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Speaker 9: the forefront. So we have a very organized program here

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Speaker 9: and we use the term maate, we use the term

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Speaker 9: living lab that not only are we sitting inside the

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Speaker 9: lab our, living lab is the field, is the soccer field,

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Speaker 9: the football field where we can test these new devices

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Speaker 9: and processes and this gives us all of the resources

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Speaker 9: to do that. And we're just absolutely thrilled and just

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Speaker 9: getting started, and we really look forward to more announcements

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Speaker 9: of the great things that are happening at the housing

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Speaker 9: sports Innovation Centers.

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Speaker 4: That's very cool.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Brusse will get you out of here on this

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Speaker 2: one at the combine. And I saw our good friend

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Speaker 2: doctor Kelsey at the combine as well. You guys, what's

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Speaker 2: a day like for you? Is it because there's so

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Speaker 2: many players there, are you guys really just kind of

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00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: examining and is that something that's broken up? Certain teams

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00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: are looking at certain guys or how does that? How

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Speaker 2: does that all work?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's an incredibly busy day. We have our entire

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Speaker 9: team here with doctor.

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Speaker 4: Slammers hive them my regards.

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Speaker 9: So we've got a doctor Salata. We've got a great

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Speaker 9: team here. And yeah, so we examine all three hundred

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00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 9: and twenty players. So we examined eighty players a day

1140
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Speaker 9: really to get a sense of our of how safe

1141
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 9: they are to play football. So it's a very busy day.

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00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 9: And then in the evenings we have all of our

1143
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 9: health and safety meetings and society meetings. So it's a

1144
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 9: it's a busy place. We try to sneak in a

1145
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 9: nice dinner here and there, but we're really four days

1146
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Speaker 9: of being really hard at work.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine.

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00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: So you need some of that Elmo's Cocktail softs to

1149
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 2: clear the sinuses and get you ready, doctor Voss.

1150
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Speaker 4: It really has been a pleasure getting to know you.

1151
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Obviously, I had the great four to be able to

1152
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: travel next to you a lot this season and always

1153
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: enjoy our conversations and our shared love of certain TV shows.

1154
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: So congratulations on being named the NFL Physicians Siety President.

1155
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: I know how in your field it's kind of the

1156
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: biggest deal there is. So congrats on reaching the top

1157
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: of the mountain, and I know you're saying I'm still

1158
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: going higher.

1159
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Speaker 9: Thanks. Naja, really appreciate talking with you, and thank you.

1160
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Speaker 9: Thank you for the opportunity to review. That's really appreciated.

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Speaker 4: You got it. The great doctor Vus.

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Speaker 2: Folks, when you think about your team physician, is the

1163
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: one that all the other physicians in the NFL are like, Yeah,

1164
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 2: that guy's the best. That's our team physician, Doctor Vuss,

1165
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 2: and he's a great dude as well. When we come back,

1166
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Speaker 2: we're going to kick off our number two with Dane Brugler,

1167
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: not to be confused with Dean Bugler.

1168
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Speaker 4: He is Dane Brugler, the.

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Speaker 2: NFL draft analyst from the Athletic that's coming up our

1170
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Speaker 2: number two twenty minutes. It's a bomb. Get ready, Get out,

1171
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Speaker 4: Your pencils or your pens.

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Speaker 4: That was fun talking to doctor Vus.

1181
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely, congratulations to him.

1182
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Speaker 4: What a beast.

1183
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: They're great guys.

1184
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great We got a hold our whole

1185
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: medical our team. Doctors are all great, great, great guys.

1186
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Speaker 2: Another great guy is Dane Brugler from the Athletic. He

1187
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: is their draft analyst and he joined us as he

1188
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: does every single year.

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Speaker 4: At the Combine.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen, Welcome back to the Combine. Time for

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00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: one of the treats of our trip to Indianapolis every

1192
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: single years.

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Speaker 4: We are joined by the.

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Speaker 2: Draft Guru of the Athletic, the author of The Beast,

1195
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: the greatest draft guide in human history. Dane Brugler on

1196
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Speaker 2: Twitter at dp Brugler. I just found out what the

1197
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 2: piece stood for, Paul, I remember that.

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Speaker 4: So what a day.

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Speaker 2: We're off to a great start already. How you doing, man?

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00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 2: This is this is like for you. I feel like

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00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 2: this is like you're coming to Disneyland.

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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, no, this is something. There's so much to

1203
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 8: gain from this week. And we've been doing this for

1204
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 8: how long now, I mean a long time, a dozen

1205
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: years ago, I think maybe it's probably the first time

1206
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 8: we sat down here at the combine and talk. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: this is such a such an important week to the process.

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 8: It's not just about the forties and what you learn

1209
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 8: on the field, but the interview stuff behind the scenes.

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Speaker 4: You learn more at night.

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Speaker 8: Here a lot of things going on. You know, teams,

1212
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 8: our scouts are fresh out of meetings, the pre draft meetings,

1213
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 8: so maybe kind of figuring out where some of these

1214
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 8: teams maybe they're not interested at all in a player,

1215
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 8: maybe they're high on a player. It's it's interesting to

1216
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 8: match that up with your preconceived understanding of the prospect.

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: So, yeah, this is a big week.

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: All right, where's the what stage is the beast like written?

1219
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: And you just have to fill in some things from

1220
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 2: the combine or.

1221
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 4: Where are we at?

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00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, don't don't even tell me how many more

1223
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 8: days are left until the draft because it just gives

1224
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 8: me anxiety.

1225
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, plenty, it's that April you're safe. Yeah, like two months.

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Speaker 8: The month of March doesn't happen for me because it's

1227
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 8: just yeah, it's trying to finish it. There's probably two

1228
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 8: hundred profiles just done. You know, they're ready to go.

1229
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 8: It's just yeah, add in the pro day information, Combine information,

1230
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 8: ready to go. But then there's another two hundred I

1231
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 8: want to go. And that's figuring out, Okay, who are

1232
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 8: the last one hundred that get full profiles and then

1233
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 8: the other one hundred that are more abbreviated because every year,

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00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 8: you know, we have three hundred and twenty players here

1235
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 8: and so, but I want to get at least four hundred.

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00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 8: So who are the eighty players next eighty players? And

1237
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 8: need to do Every year there's about thirty five non

1238
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 8: Combine guys drafted. Making sure those guys are in the

1239
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: draft guide hasn't hasn't been since two thousand, twenty sixteen,

1240
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 8: the last time a player is drafted who wasn't in

1241
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 8: the Beast so got to keep.

1242
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: That's knocking on wood for you.

1243
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 4: I like that.

1244
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: So to find those guys, is that based on your

1245
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 2: relationships with scouts, because they're like, we're talking about this.

1246
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 8: Guy that the teams are drafting the guys you know,

1247
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 8: no matter how much I like a kid from Mount Union,

1248
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 8: you know, it doesn't really matter.

1249
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: It's who are the teams looking at?

1250
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 8: Who are they maybe interested in that not brilliant a

1251
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 8: lot of people are talking about. And maybe it's because

1252
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 8: of they're from a small school. Sure, maybe it's because

1253
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 8: they were just something about their profile is not matching up.

1254
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 8: Maybe they just don't have a lot of snaps they

1255
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 8: were back up. Whatever it may be. But that's why

1256
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 8: I have a ton of respect for the area scouts

1257
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 8: around the league. They're on the ground, they're figuring these

1258
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 8: all these guys out. All the information they get is

1259
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 8: so valuable to the end process, and so trying to

1260
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 8: figure that out that is definitely a key part of

1261
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 8: what I do.

1262
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Speaker 4: All Right, So you're coming here. What's your favorite thing

1263
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: about the combine? Is it?

1264
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: Is it the late nights when you're just out and

1265
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: about in the mix here getting.

1266
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 8: Information Besides talking with you guys, I mean it's uh.

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00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 4: Was a gain. I didn't want to it was a given, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Uh, what's the best steak I get? I don't know,

1269
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 8: you know, maybe that's uh, that's next. You gotta have

1270
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 8: a steak?

1271
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 4: What is your what what's your number one stakes?

1272
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 8: It's gotta be the Cowboy Ribby from sant Elms. Uh,

1273
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 8: you know, you can't go wrong. It's it's just it's

1274
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 8: they know what they're doing over there.

1275
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 4: Yes, they got down to a science. Even the bread

1276
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 4: is amazing. Uh, it's so good. But uh, I do

1277
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: handle this shrimp cocktail.

1278
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 8: I'm not a shrimp guy, so it's yeah, it's it's

1279
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 8: not for me. But I stick to the steak and

1280
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 8: the green beans and red and it's just fantastic.

1281
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1282
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 8: But you know, football related, I think it's it really

1283
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 8: is getting a chance to uh understand where teams are

1284
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 8: in their process. Because again, after after the All Star seasons, done,

1285
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 8: shriying Game, Senior Bowl, all the scouts they go back

1286
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 8: to head quarters and they have preliminary draft meetings and

1287
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 8: that's where they all sit down and they go over

1288
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 8: these players and the room has an opinion about the player.

1289
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 8: The area scouts an opinion, the GM has an opinion,

1290
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 8: and you build your preliminary draft board. And getting a

1291
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 8: better sense for what that preliminary draft board looks like

1292
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 8: and feels like from team to team is really fascinating

1293
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 8: because I think people would be really surprised.

1294
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: How I'm just gonna say, how different are they?

1295
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1296
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 8: Very different? And you know it's we need to remember too.

1297
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 8: There are three hundred and twenty players here. Draft boards

1298
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 8: around the league are one hundred and fifty names. You

1299
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 8: know a lot of guys just aren't a fit culture

1300
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 8: wise or scheme wise, and so understanding who specifically teams

1301
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 8: are looking at is a key part of this too,

1302
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 8: and a lot of that happens here at the combine.

1303
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 8: He you know, I know the forty yeard dash, that

1304
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 8: stuff I care.

1305
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: You know I'm checking a box. Yeah, it's more confirmation.

1306
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 8: Right, it's a cross checking exercise. It's making this guy's

1307
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 8: fast on film. Okay, he's fast and shorts and a

1308
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 8: T shirt. Here at the combine, there will be surprises, obviously,

1309
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 8: Guys a run faster than you think, or maybe don't

1310
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 8: perform up to the level and you have to go

1311
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 8: back and figure it out.

1312
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 4: Maybe it's just not a great tester.

1313
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 8: You know, maybe the maybe the tape he watched on

1314
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 8: him in October, or he had a hamstring injury.

1315
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: You know, there's so many.

1316
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 8: Different factors here with these guys, and so it's all

1317
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 8: about as a scout, you have to be part investigator,

1318
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 8: you have to be part psychologists, you have to be

1319
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 8: There's so many aspects of being a really good scout,

1320
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 8: and here at the Combine helps fill in a lot

1321
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 8: of those spots.

1322
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: Are you surprised Marvin Harrison's not doing anything, not of

1323
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: Pro Day?

1324
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: Nothing?

1325
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 8: No, I'm not too surprised. I man, his dad didn't

1326
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 8: and in nineteen ninety six Combine. You know, it's it

1327
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 8: feels like every year we make a big deal out

1328
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 8: of this, but every year it happens where a lot

1329
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 8: of the top prospects they don't, they don't.

1330
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 4: Don't go to a pro day. Still you do it school.

1331
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 8: I think that's a it's a good example of a

1332
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 8: player knowing his power, you know, like he just I'm

1333
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 8: gonna be a top five pick. You know, if you

1334
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 8: want to cerce on me a three, okay, four is

1335
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 8: gonna take me. You want to pass me at four?

1336
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 8: I'm not falling past five. So this is a player

1337
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 8: that understands is worth and instead of wasting my time

1338
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 8: training for the forty and all that, nobody watches Marvin

1339
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 8: Harrison's tapment says is he fast? I don't know, he's not.

1340
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 8: He's kind of slow. No one's saying that. So even

1341
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 8: the short area agility is the short shuttle of the

1342
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 8: three cone. Selfishly, I want to see him do it

1343
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 8: because I think he'd be amazing, really really big numbers

1344
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 8: with all these things. But he doesn't have to, and

1345
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 8: so why am I gonna waste my time training for it.

1346
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 8: It's I think in a perfect world we'd have one

1347
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 8: hundred percent participation here. It'd be great to put data

1348
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 8: next every single player, but it's not realistic, and I

1349
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 8: don't at the end of the day, nobody's gonna be

1350
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 8: talking about his choice not to work out when he's

1351
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 8: drafted in April.

1352
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: So Marvin Harrison is your and maybe he's not. But

1353
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: if I'm assuming he's your number one receiver this year, okay,

1354
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: is he your highest graded receiver since who?

1355
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 4: Probably Julio Jones? I think I think, okay, So that's

1356
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 4: a whole that's a while.

1357
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 8: He's got a very similar grade as Jamar Chase did

1358
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 8: coming out, So Jamar Chase would be the name that

1359
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 8: It's like, okay, the very similar grades. But but then

1360
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 8: before that, we're talking yeah, Julio Jones. Before that, we're

1361
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 8: talking Calvin Johnson. I mean, the best receivers that have

1362
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 8: come out generational. Absolutely, It's just there's you can nitpick him,

1363
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 8: but what are the weaknesses, you know, like, what are

1364
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 8: the things that are gonna hold him back? And honestly,

1365
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 8: I would throw Milik Neighbors in there as well. I

1366
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 8: think there's a razor thin gap between Harrison and Milik

1367
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 8: Neighbors with these guys.

1368
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 2: So if you're in the top ten and wanted a receiver,

1369
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: this is a good draft for you.

1370
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 8: You better be in the top six because I don't

1371
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 8: know if they're just put Romadoonze in there as well

1372
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 8: from Washington. If you want one of these guys, you

1373
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 8: probably need to be picking in the top seven to

1374
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 8: make sure you get him. If I'm say, like I'm

1375
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 8: the Bears at nine and I'm gonna take Caleb but

1376
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 8: one and then I would love to get one of

1377
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 8: these receivers to pair with DJ Moore on the outside,

1378
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 8: and really make my offense the best he can be.

1379
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 8: I don't think I'm gonna get one at nine, So

1380
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 8: I'm making calls. See what would it cost for me

1381
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 8: to go up to seven to make sure I get

1382
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 8: one of these guys, Because you look at it, quarterbacks

1383
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 8: are gonna go one, two, three, most likely, whether the

1384
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 8: Patriots pick third or they trade out of there. I

1385
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 8: think quarterbacks go one, two, three, Cardinals Marvin Harrison Junior

1386
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 8: probably five is really interesting. I think the Chargers went

1387
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 8: out of there. You know, they would love Jim Harbor

1388
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,439
Speaker 8: wants more picks. You know, he wants to really build

1389
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 8: up his roster in his image.

1390
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: If they could get a receiver that's that good, and

1391
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: then they they have Keenan Allen and Mike Williams as

1392
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: free agents.

1393
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: Given Herbert rookie contract, it'd.

1394
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 8: Be hard to pass. But you know, Jim Harbor is

1395
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 8: a different bird.

1396
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 4: You know, we know that.

1397
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 8: So he he wants he wants to work the middle

1398
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 8: of the field, he wants a ground game, he wants

1399
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 8: to build the offensive line. It makes the most sense

1400
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 8: to go wide receiver there, but I think they would

1401
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 8: also They're gonna look at entertain trade offers. And maybe

1402
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 8: move back a little bit, and then the Giants at

1403
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 8: six they need an ex receiver. So there's a good

1404
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 8: chance we see quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, receiver, receiver, receiver with

1405
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 8: the first six picks this year.

1406
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: Kind of the evolution of the league, as with Dane

1407
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: brue And it feels like the top half of the

1408
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: first round. I don't remember it being so offense heavy

1409
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 2: in a long time. I mean, there isn't that Miles Garrett.

1410
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: There are certainly he's not that dominant edge. There's are

1411
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: there really corners that you go, okay, we got to

1412
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: have them?

1413
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 4: Maybe one.

1414
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 8: I think Terry and Arnold from Alabama, and i'd throw

1415
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 8: Quinn and Mitchell in there too from Toledo. I think

1416
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 8: both those guys are have a chance to be really

1417
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 8: good starters in the NFL. And so it'll be interesting

1418
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 8: who that first defensive player is off the board, whether

1419
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 8: that's one of those corners. Is it Dallas Turner from Alabama,

1420
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 8: who I think probably be the first pass rusher drafted.

1421
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 8: I think a dark horse is Byron Murphy, the defensive

1422
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 8: tackle from Texas. He's gonna tear it up this week.

1423
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 8: I mean, he's three hundred pounds. He's running the four

1424
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 8: eights and he'll be he'll be great. Put up thirty

1425
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 8: five reps on the bench. He's a dark horse to

1426
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 8: be the first defensive player drafted. But where will that be?

1427
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 8: Is that gonna be ten? Is gonna be twelve? You're

1428
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 8: one hundred percent right. This is if you need If

1429
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 8: this is a if you need one of those premium

1430
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 8: positions quarterback, tackle, why, receiver, this is the draft for

1431
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 8: you if you're picking a top ten All.

1432
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,959
Speaker 2: Right, Browns, we know no first round pick again? Fine,

1433
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: last year, well not, we'll see. Maybe there's a trade

1434
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 2: in the eye.

1435
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 4: Who knows.

1436
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 2: It feels like the last year where we want to

1437
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 2: have first round pick, but first pick is fifty two. Yeah,

1438
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: if you're the Browns, stalk to me because you're always

1439
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: very good at this. You pay Greg Newsom from the

1440
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: get go back when we used to have first round picks. Yeah,

1441
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: where what positions are you really looking at? And then

1442
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: who would maybe be a couple of guys in those positions.

1443
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: I'll start with whatever you think the first position you're

1444
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: looking at maybe.

1445
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 4: In round two.

1446
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know it's tough obviously, because you don't know

1447
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 8: how those first fifty picks are going to play out,

1448
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 8: so you have to let the board fall to you.

1449
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 8: But I'm convinced that wide receiver is going to be

1450
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 8: a deep position every year between now and the rest

1451
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 8: of the time. It's just how the best athletes, that's

1452
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 8: where they're going because they want the ball. And if

1453
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 8: you're not good enough to be a quarterback, and there's

1454
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 8: only one quarterback in every team, you're going to be

1455
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 8: playing receiver. And so from pee wee the youth football

1456
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 8: at a seven on seven, the high school to.

1457
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 4: College or entering a golden age.

1458
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 8: Every year there's gonna be studs at receiver. And this year,

1459
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 8: you know, we already talked about the top three guys.

1460
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 8: Brian Thomas from LSU is gonna be somewhere in that

1461
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 8: first round mix. And then when you get to the

1462
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 8: second round, a lot of really interesting names. The two

1463
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 8: Texas kids ad Ni Mitchell Xavier Worthy both should work

1464
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 8: out well here this week. You know, big fan of

1465
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 8: Roman Wilson from Michigan what he brings. So I think

1466
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 8: depending on what you're looking for, exactly what do you

1467
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 8: Because if you're drafting a receiver in the second round,

1468
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 8: you're sacrificing something right, whether that's size, speed, maybe a

1469
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 8: little raw, not the best route runner, So you know,

1470
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 8: there's a reason he's not a first round pick. So

1471
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 8: figuring out for your offense, what are you willing to

1472
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 8: sacrifice on to get the best player that's going to

1473
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 8: help you off That's something that Browns are going to

1474
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 8: have those conversations.

1475
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 4: Who's your boy? Who know? Yeah, Mattle Deebo Junior.

1476
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean before the catch, he's a receiver. After

1477
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 8: the catch, he's a running back man.

1478
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 4: He is.

1479
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 8: He is built. I mean he looks like a running back.

1480
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 8: He is jacked, he's but he's should running the four

1481
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 8: force here. He's got speed too. He's a lot of

1482
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 8: fun to watch coming from Western Kentucky because of what

1483
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 8: they called me a yacht king, and they call him

1484
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 8: that for a reason.

1485
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: Obviously.

1486
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 8: He's a guy that I think even though he was

1487
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 8: more of an underneath player in college, he showed at

1488
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 8: the Senior Bowl he can track the ball deep. He

1489
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 8: can be more than that. So yeah, he's definitely in

1490
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 8: that second round mix. As one of those guys in

1491
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 8: my top one hundred that I came out with last week.

1492
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 8: He was like forty nine or something, so ring right

1493
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 8: around that range that we're talking about.

1494
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: Who of the receivers that you mentioned, or maybe somebody

1495
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: you haven't mentioned yet that like second or even third round,

1496
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 2: that's just well, we need a field stretcher, right, we

1497
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 2: need the vertical take the top off the defense of burner.

1498
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: Who are some of those names?

1499
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 8: Troy Franklin's the first one that comes to mind, the

1500
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 8: Oregon receiver. I mean, you think about what the Browns prioritize,

1501
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 8: and he kind of fits a lot of those boxes.

1502
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 8: He's young, he's gonna run really well. He's a more

1503
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 8: skilled receiver than say, like an Anti Schwartz was coming

1504
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 8: out of Auburn. But at the same time, again, you're

1505
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 8: sacrificing something and you know he's still he's still young

1506
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 8: in terms of being a more diverse route runner with

1507
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 8: his routtree. Some of the stuff downfield needs to clean up.

1508
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 8: There's some Christian wattson there, you know, with what Watson

1509
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 8: gives the Packers, who not the most complete receiver, but

1510
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 8: you want that field stretcher. You want a guy that's

1511
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 8: gonna defenses have to respect that speed yep, and what

1512
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 8: that does for the rest of your offense.

1513
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 4: Troy Franklin gives that to you, so I think he

1514
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 4: is a.

1515
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 8: Realistic option if that's a type of receiver they want

1516
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 8: to go in the second round.

1517
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: The defensive tackles a position I feel like they're going

1518
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: to have to address, right I mean, right now, you're

1519
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: coming in the season with just Dalvin Thomas and Siaki Eka.

1520
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 2: If anybody in that second round, that would be you'd

1521
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Speaker 2: be running to the to the podium to get If

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Speaker 2: they are, they're there for the Browns.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's necessarily a deep group in terms

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 8: of interior defensive line, but there are some good names.

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Speaker 4: I think on Day two Chris Jenkins from Michigan.

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Speaker 8: Who you know, we know what his dad was, sure,

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 8: but he's completely different players. Dad was three hundred sixty.

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 8: Jenkins is probably two ninety five. But he's a really

1530
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 8: twitched up player. Can rush the passer, can stop the run.

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01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 8: He was part of a really heavy rotation at Michigan.

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01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,799
Speaker 8: So the numbers the production don't just jump off the page.

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Speaker 8: But when you see him move and you know, you

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 8: see how he can play the run, how when he

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01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 8: is matched up with single blockers, how he can break

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01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 8: him down and create pressure on the pocket. You see

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01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 8: a guy that's ascending and you're getting better and better,

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 8: So I think Chris Jenkins would make a lot of

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 8: sense there. Michael Hall's really interesting, the Ohio State defensive tackle.

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 8: Another guy that doesn't necessarily have the body of work

1541
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 8: you want, but when he's on and he's healthy, good

1542
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 8: luck blocking him because he is an explosive guy.

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 4: So the defensive tackle is not.

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 8: A really deep group, but definitely some names on Day

1545
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 8: two that I think would make sense for this.

1546
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: Stoll who was the one that came in was the

1547
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: number one defensive a linement out of high school.

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01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 4: And then the.

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Speaker 8: LSU can yeah yeah, Mason Smith yeah yeah, good yeah.

1550
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 8: I mean he's there was so much hype for him

1551
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 8: and then he towards ACL and the opener last year

1552
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 8: twenty twenty two, came back this year and wasn't quite

1553
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 8: the same guy. I think third fourth round. And the

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 8: other LSU defensive tackle McKay Wingo, he's another really good

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 8: player as well. So both LSU defensive tackles, third round,

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01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 8: fourth round. That's the type of range we're talking for them.

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 4: It's just I can anything.

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01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: I don't even the command you have is just spectacular,

1559
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: stunting to watch soccing of course with a great Dane Brugler.

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: All right, so we.

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01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: Talked a little defense, tackle, We talked about wide receiver.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 2: You mentioned it's a deep tackle class. Is that true

1563
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 2: into like third fourth round or is it deep in terms.

1564
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: Of it's top heavy, top heavy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 8: I think we're gonna see what maybe six offensive tackles

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01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 8: go top twenty, top twenty two, and then maybe a

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 8: few more even get into that first round. So we

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 8: might end up with seven or eight offense tackles first

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 8: round and then a little bit of a drop off.

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01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of.

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 8: The Yale tackle Kieren mcgegie, but he's a draft and

1572
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 8: developed guy, like he's not someone's gonna help you on

1573
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 8: his you know, rookie rookie season offensive tackle Patrick Paul

1574
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 8: from Houston's another one of those guys who's really long.

1575
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 8: But he's available in the second round for a reason.

1576
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 8: Probably it's more of a top heavy position this year.

1577
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 8: There's some guys you can get third round, fourth round,

1578
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 8: but not some. It's not gonna be a really deep

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01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 8: group of tackles at that point.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 4: Any Day two, late day too.

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01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Early day three running backs that you like him, think

1582
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: would be a nice fit for the for the Browns.

1583
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 8: That's the sweet spot. I don't I don't know that

1584
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 8: we're gonna see a deep running back drafted top fifty

1585
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 8: this year, which I think it's the just the second

1586
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 8: time ever hit in the history of the league if

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01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 8: it happens. The first time was sixteen, a couple of

1588
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 8: years ago, when the first running back wasn't drafted till

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 8: like fifty six or something like that. So but once

1590
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 8: you get into that third round, we could see seven

1591
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 8: eight running backs fly off the board. There's a lot

1592
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 8: of really cool guys, whether you know Jonathan Brooks from

1593
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,759
Speaker 8: Texas coming off the ACL is a really talented runner.

1594
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 8: Troy Benson or Trey Benson from Florida State. He's contact

1595
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 8: balance is outstanding. Wasn't really asked to be the workhorse,

1596
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 8: but man, when he gets the ball, he makes things happen.

1597
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 8: Bucky Irving from Oregan's a little undersize, more of a

1598
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 8: complimentary back, but you pair him with you know, in

1599
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 8: a committee type of backfield, you've got something. So there

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 8: are a lot of really quality running backs in that

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01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 8: mid mid third to early fourth. I think that's kind

1602
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,799
Speaker 8: of the sweet spot for the running back position.

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01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 4: All right, last one, and we appreciate the time.

1604
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: It's day three. You're in the Browns war room. Who

1605
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: is somebody that you are just like pounding the table for.

1606
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,440
Speaker 2: This is the Dane Brugler gem.

1607
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 8: My Yale tackle. I think, you know, he's a guy

1608
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 8: that might sneak into the Day two because he is

1609
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 8: so talented. But yet my Yelle left tackle will be

1610
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 8: someone for sure. You know, Austin Booker, the pass rusher

1611
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 8: from Kansas. I think the secrets out on him and

1612
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 8: he might be going second or day two now. But

1613
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 8: I think Austin Booker from Kansas could be one of

1614
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 8: those guys. I think someone the Browns will be really

1615
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 8: interested in because he's young, he hasn't played a ton

1616
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 8: of football, but you're you're buying low and just watch

1617
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 8: the ascension with him. Andrew Phillips from Kentucky. He's a

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 8: really scrappy athletic player, didn't have a ton of ball

1619
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 8: production in college, but you love the traits and so

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01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 8: I have to sacrifice something with him. Okay, didn't have

1621
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 8: the interceptions, but you know what, I think he's a

1622
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 8: Day one Nickel and a guy that's gonna, you know,

1623
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 8: make my secondary better. So a lot of yeah, quiet

1624
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 8: prospects that I think teams around here are kind of

1625
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 8: hoping they stay quiet.

1626
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 2: Well, write those down, folks, the great Dane Brugler. We're

1627
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 2: gonna get the beast. You gotta subscribe to the Athletic

1628
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: get as a part of your subscription. That's the best

1629
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: deal that there is. When when can we expect the beast?

1630
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 3: Roughly?

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 8: First week in April is always the goal because I

1632
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 8: want to get all the pro day information in there. Uh,

1633
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 8: those on through all the way through March. But yeah,

1634
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 8: somewhere in that first week in April. But yeah, if

1635
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 8: you're if you're a fan of the draft at all

1636
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 8: in any capacity, this is a must have for you.

1637
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 2: It's a must have it because your team's gonna draft somebody.

1638
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: You could immediately go and become an expert on them

1639
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: and understand out why.

1640
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, what's his older brother's name? This is where do

1641
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 8: you grow up? How many sacks do you have as

1642
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 8: a freshman? And all that stuff?

1643
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 4: True story, This is true.

1644
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've told you this before, but

1645
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: your guide always helps me. So I'm the first person

1646
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: that when we draft somebody they talk to. Your guide

1647
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: always helps me.

1648
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 4: Love it.

1649
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: Get a personal anecdote in there that they then can

1650
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: relate to because it is that thorough.

1651
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 4: You're you've got it. Also, you're you're a master.

1652
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 2: At DP Brugler on Twitter, the great Dan Brugler, thanks

1653
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: so much, man, appreciate it.

1654
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 4: All right.

1655
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: That was Dane Brugler from the Athletic sign Up. It's

1656
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: worth it just to get the guide.

1657
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 3: I mean, the beast, the beast.

1658
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 4: You gotta get it. The dresh guy at DP Brugler, gosh,

1659
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 4: love Dane.

1660
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: What a human. All right.

1661
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 4: Well, when we come back, we've got we've got a

1662
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 4: lot to do.

1663
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: We got some news from around the National Football League

1664
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 2: as well. Mail bag. Oh baby, we are cooking and

1665
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: we still have I mean, we gotta kick some of

1666
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: this stuff on to Monday. But yeah, we're we're doing

1667
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: great here. Thanks for joining us. Clean Brown's Daily brought

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Speaker 4: All right back, we got a little bit of news.

1678
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Speaker 3: By the way, we got a coach Lewis. That's we

1679
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 3: have not gotten to that.

1680
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: No, and that's one of our hot topics of the day,

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Speaker 2: presented by Vivid Seats and official fan experience partner of

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns R I P.

1683
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 4: Richard Lewis. And it's crazy. Are you watching the season

1684
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 4: of Curb?

1685
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1686
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so was it two weeks ago? Episode four?

1687
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 4: Just happened? Episode two?

1688
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, is what they were talking about when they die,

1689
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: sharing their inheritance, giving a percentage of their estate to

1690
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: each other. And now he's gone. I mean, you knew

1691
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: he wasn't doing well, but it seemed like he kind

1692
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: of had bounced back this season. He seemed a little

1693
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: more spry in the golf scene in episode three.

1694
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 3: So l I P.

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 4: Richard Lewis very sad.

1696
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: And he's a isn't he a Columbus Higher State.

1697
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean one of the funnier

1698
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 3: humans just wasn't a huge role on Curb. Yeah, but

1699
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 3: every time it was like a duck in, duckout just awesome.

1700
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 3: So it very very sad. I thought Larry's tribute was amazing.

1701
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 3: Where is it on his Twitter? Yeah? Okay, I mean

1702
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 3: it it was great. It makes you sad, but it

1703
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: also it was like, wow, that's pretty amazing.

1704
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: Oh are you talking about the thing where he was

1705
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: like and he made me like it and he made

1706
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: me cry, which makes it makes me hite him.

1707
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, he's the best.

1708
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: Absolutely so interested to see what goes what happens this

1709
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: week on Kurb. Yeah, they're gonna obviously they're gonna have

1710
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: to do something. They're gonna probably an in memoriam, but

1711
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 3: it is yeah, yeah, immediate, Richard. I'm assuming he's going

1712
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: to appear on some further episodes.

1713
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean they are all the tributes.

1714
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 2: He would take time, This is what Cheryl said, He

1715
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: take time to tell the people he loved when they

1716
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: meant to him. In between takes on, Kirby would tell

1717
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: me how specially I was to him and how much

1718
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: he loved me. To be loved by Richard Lewis a

1719
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: true gift. I love you, Richard. You will be missed.

1720
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: Richard and I were This is the Larry one. Richard

1721
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: and I were born three days apart in the same hospital,

1722
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: and for most of my life he's been like a

1723
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 2: brother to me. He's had that rare combination of being

1724
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: the funniest person and also the sweetest. But today he

1725
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 2: made me sob and for that I'll never forget of him.

1726
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 4: Oh yes, r I p Richard Lewis.

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: The other hot topic. Can hey, Marvin Harrison, what the

1728
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:13,639
Speaker 3: hell are you doing?

1729
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: He's saying, I don't need to do anything. I don't

1730
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: have to I'm Marvis and Harrison, and then you're gonna.

1731
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna talk. I'm gonna not gonna do this.

1732
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he wouldn't talk, because my guess is he

1733
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 2: didn't want to answer why he's not running?

1734
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: What do you have to hide?

1735
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1736
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 2: I think it's well, especially because the way that it

1737
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: sounded to me, which I saw on Twitter this morning,

1738
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: was that he was scheduled to talk, and then it

1739
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: was just so supported that he actually know he will

1740
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:39,759
Speaker 2: he will not be talking.

1741
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 5: I don't.

1742
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't get it. Yeah, okay, you're not working out,

1743
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: fine whatever, Yeah, I can't. I can't tell you what

1744
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: to do. I am in agreement with you, Like I

1745
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 3: don't know what it hurts to do some of the drills.

1746
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 3: If you don't want to do them all, fine.

1747
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 2: You can just put a four time. Apparently it's not

1748
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna matter. He's gonna be the first receiver taken.

1749
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 3: So you keep going down this road unless someone has

1750
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: already told you, hey, no matter what, like we're picking you. Yeah,

1751
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 3: like go start getting ready for the season. But I'm like,

1752
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: you can't. You don't. You're not gonna talk to youba.

1753
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 4: He knows he's not getting past Arizona.

1754
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 3: Okay. Are we sure a lot can happen over two months?

1755
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 4: Yes, but I guess it does feel that way, but

1756
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 4: it is. It is odd. We know.

1757
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: The Browns met with Oregon's wide receiver Troy Franklin at

1758
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: the combine. Franklin posted thirteen hundred and eighty one yards

1759
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: on eighty one catches caught fourteen touchdowns in his senior

1760
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: season with the Ducks. Quarterback sit yesterday that Franklin was

1761
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: the toughest receiver I faced this year. Oh no, give

1762
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: us a Franklin scouting report.

1763
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 6: He's a burner. That was the big thing with him,

1764
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 6: Like he's just gonna stretch the field. I think he's

1765
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 6: a little undersized, which was people's concern.

1766
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 2: But where's he Where's he on people's like boards, Like

1767
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: is he in play at fifty two or is he

1768
01:19:59,160 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: me gom?

1769
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 6: Some people I think would say yes. And then I've

1770
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 6: also seen him mocked at like thirty two to the Chiefs.

1771
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 6: So he's probably right in that like late first to

1772
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 6: second area. Okay, not sure you would make it, but

1773
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 6: he's the right kind of player.

1774
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I like that. That's our draft expert

1775
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: who know around the league.

1776
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: I like this one.

1777
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: The days of the chain gang measuring first downs on

1778
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: the NFL soon could be numbered. The league tested optical

1779
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: tracking in two stadiums this past season and during Super Bowl.

1780
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: Let's see what is this fifty eight at Las Vegas's

1781
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:36,520
Speaker 2: Allegiance Stadium.

1782
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 4: For line to gain rulings.

1783
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,839
Speaker 2: NFL Network insider Tom Pellis at a report on Thursday,

1784
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 2: sighting league officials. Yeah, there's too much at stake for

1785
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 2: people running in from the sideline, not running in straight

1786
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: lines and moving the ball. Like, if we have the

1787
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 2: ability to know where the ball actually was, we need

1788
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: to know where the ball was. Now, what's hard for

1789
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: me to understand about it is where the ball is

1790
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: is matters. It's a three dimensional thing, right, So if

1791
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: you've got the ball, if you're here in the how

1792
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 2: does the chip measure it? Because if you're here, right,

1793
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: the point of the ball's here, that's as far forward

1794
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: as your But you could be holding it like this,

1795
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: and now the point of the balls are over here,

1796
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: but the outside of the ball on this side, because

1797
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: its round would be the furthest point that the ball gets. Correct,

1798
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: So are they gonna have sensors and everywhere? That's an

1799
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 2: awful lot of electronics on the football.

1800
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 4: And how does that affect the ball itself?

1801
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean?

1802
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: Like, at some point, if you have something that's transmitting

1803
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 2: something from the ball, which it obviously would have to be,

1804
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 2: it has to have some weight to it.

1805
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,839
Speaker 3: It has to be there will be some additional weight.

1806
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: Right, So how does that affect the way that the

1807
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: ball spins? Have to be evenly distributed or else the

1808
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: ball won't spin properly.

1809
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 4: When you throw a spiral.

1810
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it Yeah, because it can't be on the

1811
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: outside of the ball. There can't be a piece of

1812
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: leather missing, like it's got to be right.

1813
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 4: So it's inside. I'm curious about that. I'm curious about that.

1814
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 2: We talked to We need Pelsara, we need you, we

1815
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 2: need you back, help us understand what's going on here.

1816
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course he talks about it after we talked yesterday.

1817
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: The Vikings have released their former starting running back Alexander Madison.

1818
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 2: He's really only a starter for one year, but he

1819
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: lost the job as the season went on to.

1820
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 4: I had them on a couple of my fantasy teams.

1821
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 2: You got that name Muno Tyson Chandler, tychan Ty Chandler

1822
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: and can't makers.

1823
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll get to your mic on you know.

1824
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 2: Uh the NFL From NFL dot Com, Steelers GM Omar

1825
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Khan said, I have full faith in Kenny Pickett, but

1826
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: still open the competition.

1827
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: In the room. What are they doing?

1828
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 4: I thought Mason Rudolph was the guy.

1829
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 3: I don't know. They both suck.

1830
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 4: It's great.

1831
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't want I'm totally all in too. They don't

1832
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 3: need send fields to Atlanta. That seems to be trending

1833
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 3: in a decent direction.

1834
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: Well, there's supposed that you see the video where in

1835
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: the was it is that real? In the background, his

1836
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: manager says, you ready to go back home or something

1837
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: like that.

1838
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, is it real?

1839
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know. I don't know it.

1840
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 3: It's very strange. Yeah, I keep hearing so like that

1841
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 3: was the whole thing, like we want to do right

1842
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: by Justin Fields, and Pella Sero said it, Well, if

1843
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna do right by Justin Fields, and this has

1844
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 3: to get done here in the next seven to ten days.

1845
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's all got to get done before the start

1846
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: of the league year. Yeah, I mean, otherwise you're putting

1847
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 3: him at a disadvantage and a disservice, and you're doing

1848
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 3: a disservice to you for getting whatever you can for it.

1849
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 4: Agreed, that'll be. That'll be interesting to see, all right.

1850
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 2: Do you want to take a break and then do

1851
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: mail bag or do on do mail bag and just

1852
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: take it all away.

1853
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 3: I think we're just going to keep it okay, I

1854
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 3: mean mail but everybody is everybody on vacation this week.

1855
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a lot.

1856
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: Going I'm telling there's well, there's just not a ton

1857
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: going on in the sports world. So I maybe some

1858
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: people as well also did not see or hear from Stefancy.

1859
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,759
Speaker 2: Was there any thing that Stefanski said to you guys

1860
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: or to the media in general that was that really

1861
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: stood out to you?

1862
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 9: No?

1863
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Not really No, No, I mean ab had had the

1864
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 3: news making stuff of the day. Yep.

1865
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1866
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 3: And actually it was funny. I was walking to my

1867
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 3: car yesterday and uh, after the show was over, I'm

1868
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 3: walking to go get the car to pick it up,

1869
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: to take it back and pick up all the gear

1870
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 3: and head home. And I'm walking. All of a sudden,

1871
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 3: guy next to me shadow was like this big person

1872
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: next to me, and he's like, so, we're gonna see

1873
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,879
Speaker 3: you guys in August. It was Quazy.

1874
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 4: I yes, yes he was. He wearing that awesome white

1875
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 4: quarters up.

1876
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 3: He had a different one on. That was just a

1877
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 3: right we got where the gear is fantastic.

1878
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 2: We got a question here from Enough from the clown,

1879
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: big fan of Enough from the clown. So I hope

1880
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: I didn't miss the mail bag Nadan's Girl, which note

1881
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 2: iPad are you running? This is an iPad pro from

1882
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 2: many years ago and he says. Is it good, Yes,

1883
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: it is good. It's just getting old. It's starting to

1884
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 2: show its age. It's computing data is not It's not

1885
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: computing like it used to, which is driving me nuts.

1886
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 4: So does it need improvement? Yeah, it probably does. Probably

1887
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 4: might be time.

1888
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 3: For it, by the way, for a new one that

1889
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 3: you died, that you upgraded to.

1890
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 6: That.

1891
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we found and we were cleaning out the office

1892
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: an iPad. Yeah, like no, like the team, the one

1893
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 3: you have is very valuable. This one, yeah, well you

1894
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 3: have access to things.

1895
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but the old one doesn't. I don't think.

1896
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know it's dead currently, but we found it.

1897
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one's good, but.

1898
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: I definitely I think it is. Probably it's probably time.

1899
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 4: For a new one.

1900
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 3: By the way, the great match Shrodick, Chris Cola and

1901
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 3: Dree we got new we got cabinets coming. They're like, hey,

1902
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 3: they were supposed to be here today, they'll be here Monday.

1903
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 3: So great, no worries. All good. But Griff has a

1904
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: workstation though.

1905
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 4: I know, Griff, why do you not keep staring me?

1906
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 4: Why are you staring at me? You know you have

1907
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 4: mail bad questions for us?

1908
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:13,799
Speaker 5: I have nothing.

1909
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: Now do you have a question that you want answered

1910
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: right now about anything.

1911
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 5: How is your golf? Do you shoot well?

1912
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 3: I did?

1913
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: Started off slow and then and then go back back

1914
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: where Actually it feels like playing golf has helped my back.

1915
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 2: I was not feeling good on the on the way

1916
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 2: down there.

1917
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: I was lying down.

1918
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: And stretching and contorting my body and trying to feel

1919
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: like I could stand up. And then all of a sudden,

1920
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 2: the sun hit me it was time to hit a

1921
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:45,520
Speaker 2: golf ball, and it was my body's.

1922
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 3: Like, you're good, that's walking. Like I didn't have any

1923
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 3: less than fifteen thousand steps a day. Oh yeah, Like

1924
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 3: I felt good though, Like the weather was good. Everything.

1925
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 3: I came back here like this morning I went to

1926
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 3: get out of bed, I'm like, what in the bloody well,

1927
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: why do I feel like a ninety year old man again?

1928
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: Like everything sore? Everything achy. I'm like, I think it's

1929
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 3: the weather.

1930
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 4: It's it is all right. Here we go.

1931
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 2: Thoughts on the Ohio state draft class this year, Which

1932
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: one would fit best on the Browns.

1933
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 6: Probably Mike Hall, the defensive tackle, would be the best bet.

1934
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 5: We're obviously not going to get Marvin cad Stover.

1935
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 6: Their tight end would be a fun late edition. I

1936
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 6: think he's got a nice mix of blocking and receiving.

1937
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 6: And I think he's from southern Ohio, so he's in

1938
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 6: at least an Ohio kid. So those are probably the

1939
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 6: two biggest ones for us.

1940
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: All right, very good.

1941
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: Don Verdell says, I believe the Polaris mellow mushroom is closed.

1942
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: Tried stopping a couple months back.

1943
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 3: Say it ain't. So I don't know.

1944
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 4: Can we go? Can we quickly google this mellow mushroom? Polarisparkway, Columbus.

1945
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: Iron Will says, I missed the debut of Kelsey Russo

1946
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: yesterday did I find John?

1947
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 4: How she did?

1948
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 3: She did?

1949
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 4: Good? Nice?

1950
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: Everything went well? Man? Gotcha? Well, we had a coach

1951
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Speaker 3: was delayed coming to us on Wednesday, so we threw

1952
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Speaker 3: her into the fire with like fifteen minutes. Notice, I'm like, hey,

1953
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Speaker 3: you Jordan Reed, it is.

1954
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Speaker 6: Good fifteen years, it's after fifteen years, it's closed down

1955
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Speaker 6: the mellow mushroom.

1956
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Speaker 3: Why well you are angry?

1957
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Speaker 2: I almost if I had, if I had gotten out

1958
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Speaker 2: of Indie later where I wouldn't have gotten home at

1959
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Speaker 2: a time where.

1960
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Speaker 3: I could maybe did you make good time?

1961
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Speaker 4: Or no? I did? Yeah?

1962
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Speaker 2: I was in the door by about nine fifteen nineteen. Yeah,

1963
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Speaker 2: not bad little news.

1964
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Speaker 4: This is.

1965
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Speaker 2: Zach Klein via ninety two point nine The Game Sports Radio.

1966
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Speaker 2: Arthur Blank has basically told his front office staff, do

1967
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Speaker 2: what you gotta do, pay what you've got to pay,

1968
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Speaker 2: get it done. Everybody that I've talked to, agents, other

1969
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Speaker 2: coaching scouts, guys around the league. That's the feeling. That's

1970
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Speaker 2: what they're hearing. The Falcons are putting all their attention

1971
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Speaker 2: on Kirk Cousins.

1972
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Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, huh, okay, that's all right. Business is picking up.

1973
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll see it.

1974
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Speaker 3: And with that, so much more to come.

1975
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Speaker 4: I got one more, maybe go one more.

1976
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Speaker 2: Mate, just hold it, Okay, I don't hold it all right?

1977
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Speaker 3: So much more to come.

1978
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Speaker 4: Cleve Brod Sailey.

1979
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1980
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1981
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Speaker 2: Don't miss Billy, Joel and Rod's Sword together for the

1982
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1983
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1984
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1985
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1986
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Speaker 2: together for one night only. Grill, I got a tweet here.

1987
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. It says, I don't

1988
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Speaker 2: see it on Apple Podcasts. Uno, Griff, you got one

1989
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Speaker 2: job arrows down.

1990
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's on me.

1991
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Speaker 6: Didn't have any service driving home from Indianapolis yesterday to post.

1992
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Speaker 3: Everything will be up before we leave today. Yeah, that

1993
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Speaker 3: feels fair.

1994
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Speaker 5: Yeah, all the shows will be up by the end

1995
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Speaker 5: of the day.

1996
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Speaker 2: All right, that feels fair to me. That feels pretty good.

1997
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Speaker 2: All right, all right, very good. Well, it's good to

1998
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Speaker 2: be back. Thank you to Tom Pellisero, thank you to

1999
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Speaker 2: Dane Brugler and congrats, and thank you to Brown's team

2000
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Speaker 2: physician and President of the NFL Physician Society, doctor James

2001
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Speaker 2: vous All for joining us today for the great Griff

2002
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2003
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2004
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2005
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2006
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