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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome he to everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 2: into Sunday Air Tours. Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Just in insane, insane,

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Speaker 2: not only Saturday, but weekend of college football. A dropped

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Speaker 2: pass in the end zone right now by Alabama to Sega.

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Speaker 3: Just told you.

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Speaker 2: The Iron Bowl is tied at twenty with six minutes

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Speaker 2: to go. Refs are conferring. There is a flag on

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Speaker 2: the ground. DJ Dirkin, Auburn interm head coaches yelling, I

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Speaker 2: think that probably means it. No that Caalin de Boor

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Speaker 2: looks mad too. Let's go ahead and see it. Oh

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Speaker 2: roughing the passer on Auburn, so you'll get a first

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Speaker 2: down there. Alabama will be inside the red zone. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes to go. Big one, Ja mart because there's under

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Speaker 2: six minutes and Alabama can bleed a pretty chunky length

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Speaker 2: of the clock right now and still kick a field

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Speaker 2: goal to take a twenty three to twenty lead. But

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Speaker 2: what's up, my man? First of all, happy Thanksgiving, real quick.

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Speaker 2: We got a lot of college football and NFL to

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Speaker 2: talk over the next three hours. I know you were

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Speaker 2: in for two pros Thanksgiving morning. But did you have

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Speaker 2: a good holiday?

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Speaker 1: Mymm yeah, I was in Thursday and Friday. So I've

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Speaker 1: definitely talked to a lot of sports the last few days.

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Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of sports to talk about,

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Speaker 1: so not much to complain about. A good holiday, and

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Speaker 1: everything's everything's gravy around here, better here than it is

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Speaker 1: in Oxford or Baton Rouge. As Kiff and Watch continues,

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Speaker 1: it's actually kind of now starting to get irritating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it is starting to get irritating. I will

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Speaker 2: give you an update really quick. On the late game,

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Speaker 2: Ty Simpson a run basically to the Auburn one yard line.

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Speaker 2: Then it appeared to though there was a helmet to helmet.

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Speaker 2: So Alabama's gonna score here?

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Speaker 1: Nah, they touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Well, they put up a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I take back what I said, because there was a

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Speaker 2: hold on Alabama on the outside wide receiver Isaiah Horton

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Speaker 2: with the hold that sounds like a Doctor Seuss book

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 3: Horton with the hold.

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Speaker 2: But Alabama and Auburn are tied to twenty a piece.

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Speaker 2: Alabama needs to win this game to go to the

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Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. If they lose this game, not only

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Speaker 2: are they out of the SEC Championship Game, but very

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Speaker 2: likely out of the college football Playoff as well. And

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Jamart, that actually perfectly transitions into

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Speaker 2: what you were talking about, because obviously a big part

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Speaker 2: of if Alabama doesn't win this game, it means that

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Speaker 2: Old Miss is going to the SEC Championship Game. So

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Speaker 2: I will reset what we think we know about Lane

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Speaker 2: Kiffin as of eleven h four Eastern time here on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, he was supposed to make a decision today

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Speaker 2: on his future. The hold up is Old Miss, to

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Speaker 2: their credit, looked awesome on Friday. There didn't appear to

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Speaker 2: be any you know, lingering effects of Kiffen flirting with

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Speaker 2: basically every job in America. But I bring it up

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Speaker 2: because Old Miss wins and then Texas A and M

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Speaker 2: losing means that Old Miss is now in a holding

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Speaker 2: pattern on if they would make their first ever SEC

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Speaker 2: Championship game a win. Here in the Iron Bowl, and

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Speaker 2: for people just joining us, the Iron Bowl is tied

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Speaker 2: at twenty with about four and a half minutes to go.

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Speaker 2: A win by Alabama sends them. A loss means Old

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Speaker 2: feels like that is the hold up right now with

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Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. He did meet with Old Miss officials today

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Speaker 2: a paraphrase what Ross Dellinger from Yahoo is reporting. It

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Speaker 2: basically seems to me, J Martin, you could tell me

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Speaker 2: if you disagree. It sounds like Kiffin's basically throwing a

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Speaker 2: fit that Old Miss will not let him coach in

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Speaker 2: the post season and then also accept the LSU head

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Speaker 2: coaching job. That's where it feels like it's at. The

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Speaker 2: latest report from Ross Dellinger as of about twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: ago is that LSU executives quote from Ross Dellinger set

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Speaker 2: are let's see here, University is sending two planes to

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Speaker 2: Oxford on Sunday for Kiffen and his friends and family.

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Speaker 2: So the expectation is Lane Kiffin is going to accept

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Speaker 2: the LSU job on Sunday. Again, part of potential hold

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Speaker 2: seems to me like Lane Kiffin wants this job. Lane

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Speaker 2: Kiffin is on the verge of accepting this job, but

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Speaker 2: he also wants to have his cake and eat it too.

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Speaker 2: And coach Old Miss at minimum in the SEC Championship game,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I understand he wants that, but that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Like, and if you're from the southeastern

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Speaker 1: of everything else. But this just do it doesn't work

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Speaker 1: go if that's the job that you want, If that's

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Speaker 1: it four years ago. So obviously it's an enticing job.

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Speaker 1: We understand all that goes into being the coach there

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Speaker 1: But this whole idea that you should still be able

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Speaker 1: nil you've got all these deals that need to be made.

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Speaker 1: LSU is going to hire you to be their coach.

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Speaker 1: That means you need to go do that job. You

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Speaker 1: can't do the Old Miss job throughout this period. And

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Speaker 1: then go after the fact. And Ole, miss, why would

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Speaker 1: they want you around at this point? And the irritating

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Speaker 1: part about this is I'm a Laye Kiffin fan and

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Speaker 1: project that we've seen pretty much since he went to FAU.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of this is becoming self inflicted. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it really really is. And you know, I saw this.

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Speaker 1: probably saw this discourse probably on social media. Aaron. The

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Speaker 1: laying Kiffin right now is kind of incredible, especially with

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Speaker 1: the tie in CAA that's attached to all of it.

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Speaker 1: But it's just like, I can't believe that there is

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Speaker 1: an argument for letting him continue to coach in this situation,

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Speaker 1: Like if he wants to go to LSU, he should

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Speaker 1: him and hope he wins championships and whatever else over there, like,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to close the chapter here. You can't

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Speaker 1: continue to date the girl that you're cheating on, like

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Speaker 1: it can't continue to go in this way, And Ole Miss.

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Speaker 1: This is a thing that I have increasingly thought throughout

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Speaker 1: this just gonna happen every year?

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Speaker 1: And at that point in time, even if you like

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Speaker 1: you almost have to say, man, go ahead and go man.

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Speaker 1: It's clear that you're gonna want to be somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: I understand that you like us and you don't want

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Speaker 1: to hurt us. I get it, man, So let's just

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Speaker 1: break this thing off and let's move on. It's very

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Speaker 1: and there's this pesky nuisance of ole Miss being good. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's making it hard for him. It's like, if only

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Speaker 1: have been easier for me to leave. And that right

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Speaker 1: there means go tonight, go ahead and say it. Put

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Speaker 1: on the colors, have the splash screens up at LSU

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Speaker 1: and everything else, and move on from this because this

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Speaker 1: just making him if all the stuff that he's trying

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Speaker 1: a villain at the end, of it. He's becoming a

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Speaker 1: bigger villain by the minute because of the last couple

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Speaker 3: So I'll tell you a true story.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know somebody pretty high up at Ole

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Speaker 2: miss who I would say, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 2: the last ten days if he has had regular conversations

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Speaker 2: with Lane Kiffin, but certainly with somebody that Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 2: until these last couple weeks. And I bring it up

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Speaker 2: one biggest issue. And some of this is a credit

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Speaker 2: to Lane Kiffin. By the way, Alabama has just converted

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Speaker 2: a fourth and two to take a twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty lead in the Iron Bowl. Well twenty six twenty.

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Speaker 2: They are going to kick the pat Auburn will get

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Speaker 2: the ball back with about four minutes to.

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Speaker 1: Go first off. That's a gutsy call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, you know, bad radio hosting on my part

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Speaker 2: because I actually didn't even realize it was fourth down

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, the field goal kicker made a

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Speaker 2: if there was a reason that they don't trust him

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Speaker 2: going to be up twenty seven to twenty extra point pending.

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Speaker 2: Alabama is officially up twenty seven to twenty four minutes

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Speaker 2: to go. Auburn has the ball, all three timeouts, and

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Speaker 2: again what's at stake here. Alabama with a win goes

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Speaker 2: to the SEC Title Game to play Georgia. A loss,

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Speaker 2: Alabama would be out of the SEC Title Game. Old

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Speaker 2: very likely would be out of the college football playoff picture.

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Speaker 3: So keep you update on that.

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Speaker 2: Auburn will have to go the length of the field

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Speaker 2: touchdown and then obviously they could choose to go for

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Speaker 3: Inclined to go for the win.

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Speaker 2: So with Lane Kiffin, So what this person told me

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Speaker 2: was that basically, it's exactly what you said. And part

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Speaker 2: of this is a credit to Lane Kiffin. He did

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Speaker 2: not think that this team was going to be this good,

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Speaker 2: and he did not think this team was going to

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Speaker 2: reporting that has come out really over the last year,

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Speaker 2: he was ready to take the Florida job last year

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Speaker 2: and then you know, Billy Nipeer went out of this

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Speaker 2: little four or five game win streak to end the year,

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Speaker 2: and so he was ready to leave for Florida last year.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't happen. He's back at Ole Miss and the

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Speaker 2: team just keeps winning, including up through yesterday, and so

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Speaker 2: that is what has made it, you know whatever. And

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Speaker 2: potential trip to the SEC championship game that seems to

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Speaker 2: be complicating things as well. So I'm with you on

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Speaker 2: everything is that the team winning is doing a disservice.

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Speaker 2: Let me say this though, because one you mentioned basically,

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Speaker 2: I'll just say ESPN and specifically College Game Day and

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Speaker 2: specifically for people who don't follow the Dynamics. Nick Saban

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Speaker 2: has the same agent as Lane Kiffen and Kirk kerb

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Speaker 2: Street at minimum is represented by the same agency. I

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Speaker 2: don't know really, Okay, And so there you go.

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Speaker 3: Booger.

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Speaker 2: McFarland, by the way, is an LSU alum, and so

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Speaker 2: he has a conflict of interest right there. But apparently,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was traveling this morning to get back

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Speaker 3: Okay, Lane, let's finish what we started.

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Speaker 2: they will play Georgia. It does mean, by the way,

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00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: that ole Miss will not play again until the College

435
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: Football Playoff. They will not be going to the SEC

436
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: Championship Game. Very likely means one Lane Kiffin has coached

437
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: his last game at ol Miss. We expect him, according

438
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 2: to a report from Ross Ellander, to accept the LSU

439
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 2: job and be on a plane to Baton Rouge on

440
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: Sunday morning.

441
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: Two.

442
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: Alabama, with the trip to the SEC Championship Game at

443
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: ten to two, in my opinion, has officially clinched a

444
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: college football playoff spot as well. I do not think

445
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: the committee is going to punish a team, even if

446
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: they lose to Georgia next week, that has advanced to

447
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Atlanta for the SEC Championship Game.

448
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. I think this definitely closed the

449
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: door on some other teams, closed some possibilities, and of

450
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: course made some pads a lot more difficult, and there's

451
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: not that many games left to play, quite frankly, so

452
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: there's there's just a few teams and most of those

453
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 1: are not going to affect the College Football Playoffs standings

454
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: in terms of who's going to get in and who

455
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: is not. It might determine automatic bids, but you know,

456
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: credit to Auburn for being better since Hugh Freeze left

457
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: than they were when he was there. There's still a

458
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: lot of work to be done, and of course they've

459
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: got a coaching decision to make. Maybe DJ Dirkin still

460
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: ends up with that gig. I sort of doubt it,

461
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: But we are getting to a point where once this

462
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen thing and now that they're not going to

463
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: be in the SEC championship game them meaning ole miss,

464
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and do this man like, Let's let's

465
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: go ahead and find out in the next ten minutes

466
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: that it's over. Like, you don't have to coach in

467
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: the SEC title, You're not going to coach in a

468
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: college football playoff. I do not see a scenario where

469
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: they're going to back down from that and allow that

470
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: to happen. So let's just go ahead and end this

471
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: charade and let's move on. Let old miss move on

472
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: to the targets that they've already been looking at over

473
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: the last week because they kind of saw this coming.

474
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: And let's go ahead and let this carousel start to

475
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: take shape, because there's been a lot of dominoes that

476
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: have been sitting here waiting to fall based on what

477
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: Lane was going to do. And time's up. Like this,

478
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: this needs to come to an end, needs to come

479
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: to a head. Go on to Baton rouge and do

480
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: your thing, man, But this, this whole old misflirtation is

481
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: now over like this, this has got to go. You

482
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: flirted with Auburn in twenty twenty two, you flirted with

483
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: Florida and LSU this time around. If I'm ole, miss,

484
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: I want somebody that wants me, and reurely, you're always

485
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: gonna have a wandering eye and I hate it. Man.

486
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: I really wanted him to stay. I wanted him to

487
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: build a legacy at a place that didn't have a

488
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: built in legacy, and not just be the next guy

489
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: to win. I wanted him to be the guy to

490
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: build a program because I think it means so much

491
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: more and it would be so much more impressive, and

492
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: it would show some growth and some maturity in this.

493
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: But this is the lane Kiffen that has always existed,

494
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the lane Kiffen that is always sort of looking elsewhere

495
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: for a bigger gig. And when he took the old

496
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: miss job, I think everybody thought, well, how long is

497
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: he going to be there before a bigger job opens up?

498
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: If he's successful, yep, And so this is this is

499
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: kind of the end of that the end of that road.

500
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: But if I don't see this over the next ten

501
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, I'm gonna be a little bit frustrated,

502
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: like we need to end this now.

503
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 3: Needs one more night to sleep on it.

504
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: And one it was midday meeting with the ad just

505
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: to confirm that he's one hundred percent out. Yeah, no, listen,

506
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you. A couple quick thoughts on that. By

507
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 2: the way, I should mention, there's actually a very notable

508
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: result that is about to go final.

509
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: Cal is about to beat SMU.

510
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cal up thirty eight thirty five with eleven seconds

511
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: to go. I guess it's not done yet because SMU

512
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: has the ball eleven seconds to go. Fringes of field

513
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: goal range jmrt if CAL were too upset SMU we

514
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: would have in next week's ACC title game. Oh No Virginia,

515
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: which by the way, has two losses, both to ACC opponents.

516
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: Only one counts of the conference standings though, and the

517
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: seven and five but six and two in league play,

518
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: Duke Blue Devils would be playing for the ACC championship game.

519
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: Why don't we wait until all this is done before

520
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: we start breaking down hypotheticals and what it all means.

521
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: And I think probably the best bet, Ja Mart is

522
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: to just reset the playoff picture at the top of

523
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: the next hour. We could talk a little at Michigan.

524
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Ohiose state really quick. Guys want to put a bow

525
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: on Kiffin one? I agree with you on this is

526
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: who he is. And I think when you think about

527
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: the crazy manner in which he has left pretty much

528
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: every job you live in Tennessee basically left under riot

529
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: circumstances in Knoxville. By the way, I don't even blame

530
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: the fans. I'm just saying that was basically how it

531
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: ended USC on the tarmac famously. I think people forget

532
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 2: this one, Jay Mart. He was fired before a national

533
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,239
Speaker 2: championship game as the Alabama offensive coordinator and now he

534
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: is going to leave Old Miss, you know, with a

535
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: playoff appearance on the line. You know I said this

536
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: last week and I stand by it. You Know, people

537
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: were saying, you know, we talked about the college game

538
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: day guy saying.

539
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: You know, let him finish when he started.

540
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad we moved past the Well, this is a

541
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: byproduct of the calendar. No, I'm sorry. The calendar was

542
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: never made with the intention that a dude from the

543
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: SEC that has a team going to the college football

544
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: playoff was going to leave for another job. And I

545
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: guess we'll put a ball on kid him by saying

546
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: is there anything And I'll just ask you is there

547
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: anything either side could have done differently? I think I

548
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: think Ole Miss actually handled it about as well as

549
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: you could U. I think with Kiffin, I guess I

550
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: sort of understand why he was kind of dragging his

551
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: feet today knowing that there was a potential SEC title

552
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: game on the line. But it's just an unfortunate way

553
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: to end, because, like you said, it's an incredible run

554
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: that he had. It is, to his credit, the best

555
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: run that that program has had basically in any of

556
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 2: our lives, maybe in school history. But it's going to

557
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: end in just this ugly, ugly, ugly fashion. And then

558
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: to your point, he's going to a pretty big rival

559
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: which is going to continue to make it ugly.

560
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing that maybe you could look at

561
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: sideways from the ole Miss perspective is I don't know

562
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: if Carter the ad needed to say the day after

563
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: the egg Bowl, we're going to have this announcement. You know,

564
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: we're going to have a meeting, like he kind of

565
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: he kind of turned this into an event when maybe

566
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: he didn't have to agree with that. Yep. I think

567
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: maybe they could have been a little bit more behind

568
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: closed doors, even if there was an ultimatum, even if

569
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: there was uh yeah, day after the egg Bowl, we

570
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: need to have this finalized. We need to meet, and

571
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: this needs to be done. I don't know that the

572
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: rest of the world needed to know that. I think

573
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: that that was the one thing that Olemiss did wrong

574
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: because that was always probably going to paint Lane Kiffin

575
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: in a pretty villainous light because and we talked about it, right,

576
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: it's become very irritating. It would be less irritating if

577
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting it all day long and hadn't been

578
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: you know, ballyhooing it all week long because of that

579
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: announcement from Keith Carter.

580
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about it last week.

581
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: You know, it was interesting how we both perceived, you know,

582
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 2: the statement to be different. But I do agree with

583
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: from the beginning it could have been. Hey, you know,

584
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: coach Kiffin has to weigh all his options. Our full

585
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: focus is on winning the egg Bowl, and both sides

586
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: will figure things out, you know, following the egg Bowl

587
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 2: or something like that.

588
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

589
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: There was a way you could do it where it

590
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: was less Hey, the day after the egg Bowl, it's

591
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: the decision part two, Yes, and we're going to have

592
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: an Old Miss inn LSU and a Florida hat on

593
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: the table and we're gonna figure it out. So, uh,

594
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: the latest we'll get to disagre with everything, but Alabama

595
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: wins the Iron Bowl, they're going to the SEC Championship game.

596
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: That eliminates Old Miss from the SEC title game. We

597
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: expect Lane Kiffin to be on a plane to Baton

598
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: Rouge tomorrow, and there is a final that is noteworthy

599
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: in Berkeley, Disaga. I don't want to steal everything from

600
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: your updates, so I'll just kind of give you the

601
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: floor because there are still some notable college football games

602
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: going on.

603
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 6: Duke is going to the ACC title game. That's how

604
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 6: stupid this college football season.

605
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: So I have a really quick take.

606
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: Man Lightner is a great player.

607
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: I think that they Jay will Yeah, the Duke football

608
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: gets on the call. So can we stop?

609
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: Can we just eliminate conference championship games and give the

610
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: auto bid to the highest like the fact that we're

611
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: gonna have to do a Miami Notre.

612
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 6: Dame eliminating a payout. They do charge people admission for

613
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 6: the conference.

614
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Champions one's gonna go to these games. I mean, I

615
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: actually think the Big.

616
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 6: Twelve get TV money for these games.

617
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: I understand that there's got to be a better way

618
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: to pick twelve teams.

619
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 6: Absolutely there is, because the twelfth ranked team, Miami, is

620
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 6: nowhere near the college playoff.

621
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. And maybe we saved the Miami

622
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: Notre Dame bigger picture for later. I don't want to

623
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: interrupt you.

624
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 6: Miami already won today thirty eight to seven at Pittsburgh. However,

625
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: Miami has two conference losses. SMU just lost at cal

626
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 6: SMU has two conference losses. Pitt with two conference losses,

627
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 6: Georgia Tech two conference losses, and Duke Duke, which was

628
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 6: six and five to start the day, is going to

629
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 6: the ACC championship game against eighteenth ranked Virginia, which beat

630
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 6: Virginia Tech twenty seven to seven. This SMU loss. They

631
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 6: were down at Cal thirty one fourteen early fourth quarter,

632
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 6: then scored three unanswered touchdowns, took the lead at Cal

633
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: thirty five thirty one with under two and a half

634
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 6: minutes to go. California answers with a seven play seventy

635
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 6: five yard drive in about a minute and a half

636
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 6: to retake the lead. Sm You missed a fifty two

637
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 6: yard field goal attempt wide at the end, thirty eight

638
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 6: thirty five California with the victory.

639
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: Ninth rank noted.

640
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 6: AM leads twenty one nothing at Stanford early in the

641
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 6: second quarter. Also in progress, We've got UNLV ready to

642
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 6: go to ten and two of thirty five ten at

643
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: Nevada in the third quarter. Seemingly half of the Mountain

644
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 6: West Conference is going to be tied for first. Fresno

645
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 6: State is leading thirteen to seven at San Jose State

646
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 6: second quarter and the late game at Hawaii as the

647
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 6: home team tied with Wyoming seven to seven at the

648
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 6: end of one. I'm just guessing that the temperature in

649
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: Wyoming tonight is slightly different than the temperature in Hawaii tonight.

650
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 6: Number ten, Alabama a winner at Auburn twenty seven to twenty.

651
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 6: You know, this game delivers again that Auburn had no

652
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Speaker 6: business being this close. They finished one to seven in

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Speaker 6: the SEC and yet down seventeen to nothing in the

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Speaker 6: first half, they come back to tie it at twenty

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Speaker 6: before Bama wins on a touchdown pass with under four

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Speaker 6: minutes left on a fourth and two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, the seger, so we were live. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you were able to hear the broadcast? Did they

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Speaker 2: Was it just we're going for the touchdown?

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Speaker 6: Were My assumption is because this coach did a similar

661
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Speaker 6: thing when he was at Washington that you know, I

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Speaker 6: won't say he's Dan Campbell or anything like that, but

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Speaker 6: it's not the first time he's done something like that.

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Speaker 6: You might recall the Cam Newton game in this rivalry series,

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Speaker 6: where yes, Auburn was down more than seventeen points and

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Speaker 6: wound up coming back to win in twenty ten. In fact,

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Speaker 6: going into tonight, Alabama since the Cam Newton game had

668
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Speaker 6: won one hundred and fifty straight games when leading by

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Speaker 6: seventeen or more. Wow nearly nearly blew the seventeen oh

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Speaker 6: lead in this one, But Bama twenty seven to twenty

671
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Speaker 6: is the final. Texas Tech and BYU each one. They'll

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Speaker 6: face each other for the Big twelve crown next week.

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Speaker 6: It'll be number one Ohio State against number two Indiana

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Speaker 6: in Indianapolis next Saturday night for the Big Ten championship.

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Speaker 6: Ohio State won at Michigan today twenty seven to nine.

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Speaker 6: Six ranked Oregon won at Washington twenty six. Fourteen and

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Speaker 6: eighth ranked Oklahoma needed a fifty eight yard touchdown pass

678
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Speaker 6: with under five minutes to go to win against LSU

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Speaker 6: seventeen thirteen. Vanderbilt won at Tennessee forty five twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Seventeenth ranked USC down to UCLA late third quarter ten

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Speaker 6: to seven. Trojans won at twenty nine to ten, and

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Speaker 6: two Lane ranked twenty fourth beat Charlotte twenty seven nothing.

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Speaker 6: Also in the college Football Panaple today, we had these results,

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Speaker 6: Houston winning at Baylor, Kansas State over Colorado. Colorado finishes

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Speaker 6: one to eight in conference, Oklahoma State finishes oh to

686
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Speaker 6: nine in the Big twelve, losing at home to Iowa State.

687
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Speaker 6: TCU ripped Cincinnati. Arizona wound up winning at Arizona last

688
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Speaker 6: night while Arnie Spanier was on the air love it.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing that quite.

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Speaker 2: A bit after he walked into Gamble pavilion and came

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Speaker 2: out with the wins.

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Speaker 3: Zero sympathy for Arnie Spaniels.

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Speaker 6: I had mentioned to Lane one to finish seven and

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Speaker 6: one in the American Conference. There onto the conference title

695
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Speaker 6: a game against North Texas, which won easily Friday. North

696
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Speaker 6: Texas coach is leaving for the Oklahoma State job. But

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Speaker 6: this has to do with your Kiffin conversation. He is

698
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Speaker 6: sticking around to finish the season with Northel.

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Speaker 3: There are a lot cleaner ways to have handled it

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Speaker 3: than Lane Kiff and Cleary.

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Speaker 6: Well, you could say that at any Lane Kiffin stop.

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Speaker 3: I mean literally, it's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: One NBA note, Detroit wins one thirty eight, one thirty

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Speaker 6: five at Miami, ending a six game win streak of

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Speaker 6: the heat back to you, Oh, Notre Dame just scored again.

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Speaker 6: My goodness, that's already twenty eight. Nothing irish at Stanford's

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Speaker 6: second quarter.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what thank you. First of all, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much to Seger. Notre Dame going for style points.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna be enough. We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll discuss some of the other results of the day,

712
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Speaker 2: and we got to reset the playoff picture because there's

713
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Speaker 2: some spots that I think have been clinched, and I

714
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Speaker 2: think there's some spots that are gonna involve some very

715
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Speaker 2: good teams that are gonna be left out of this

716
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Speaker 2: twelve team playoff. A lot of college football coming up,

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Speaker 2: and of course a busy week in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Discuss it all.

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Speaker 1: Next. Fox Sports Radio, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Here Torris Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. We are live here right before midnight Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame up twenty eight nothing going for style points,

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Speaker 2: some other results of note. You know, Jamart, I you know,

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Speaker 2: I want to start with this one, and we're gonna

726
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Speaker 2: kind of really dive deep into the college football play

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Speaker 2: I guess, by the way, we should start with Michigan

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. I just I don't think that there is

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Speaker 2: a takeaway. I mean, yes, the takeaway is Ohio State

730
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Speaker 2: broke the four game losing streak. Michigan was up six

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Speaker 2: to nothing at one point and really had a chance

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Speaker 2: to kind of open it up. My big takeaway was

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Speaker 2: Ohio State was better at literally every spot on the field.

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Speaker 2: They ran the ball better, they defended better, the quarterback

735
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Speaker 2: was better. They look like what the number one team

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Speaker 2: in the country that is twelve and zero going into

737
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Speaker 2: a Big Ten championship game should look like. I know

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Speaker 2: what the history is you me, we had Bernie Fredawan

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Speaker 2: last week. We all expected a comfortable Ohio State when

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Speaker 2: we got that. I don't know if you have a

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Speaker 2: ton else to add on that one, but wanted to

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Speaker 2: kind of give you the floor just because it is

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Speaker 2: Michigan Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just kind of the you wanted to

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Speaker 1: see that from Ohio State to feel better about them

746
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Speaker 1: as we kind of get into the spot where they're

747
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Speaker 1: actually going to see some actual football teams. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, there was nothing that Michigan

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Speaker 1: had to offer. They muck did up a little bit

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Speaker 1: early and so it was a bit of a slog

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Speaker 1: in the first half, but you could never at any

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Speaker 1: point see a universe where Michigan was going to win

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Speaker 1: that game. You were just kind of waiting for Ohio

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Speaker 1: State to overwhelm them, and they did on all sides

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and like Michigan just that was a mismatch,

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Speaker 1: and we kind of thought that going in, But because

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Speaker 1: of the history, you kind of look at it and say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, these games can get kind of walkie, they

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Speaker 1: can get kind of weird. Well not in this case.

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Speaker 1: In this case, you just had one team that was

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Speaker 1: far better than the other one. And I'm glad it

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Speaker 1: went that way, quite frankly, because I wasn't really interested

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Speaker 1: in seeing Michigan in the college football playoffs this year,

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Speaker 1: and so we don't have to worry about that now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and you know the other thing too, is

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Speaker 2: like the ramifications of Ohio State losing are also just

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Speaker 2: much less interesting. It's like, what's the taken to me?

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Speaker 2: All Right, Dad can't win the Oh wait, he just

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Speaker 2: won the national championship. So like it would have been

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Speaker 2: an interesting discourse. I just don't know that any of

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Speaker 2: us could have gotten that riled up by the fact

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Speaker 2: that they lost that game. Hey, real quick, Vanderbilt takes

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Speaker 2: care of Tennessee I want to talk about that one

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Speaker 2: quick forty five twenty four Vandy incredible ten win season.

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Speaker 2: I think based on just how the other games broke

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Speaker 2: this week, I don't really see a pathway to the

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Speaker 2: playoff for them. Don't want to undersell what their season

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Speaker 2: was going ten to two. I'd also add this, I think,

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Speaker 2: I really think at this point, Diego Pavia at minimum

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Speaker 2: has to be in New York. You know, I was

782
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Speaker 2: thinking about it during the Ohio State game. Actually, listen,

783
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Speaker 2: Julian Saiyans having a great statistical season. You can't tell

784
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Speaker 2: me that he means more to his team than Diego Pavia,

785
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Speaker 2: Fernando Mendoza, maybe Jeremiah Love. Vandy gets the win, might

786
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Speaker 2: be a point sometime we got to talk about Joshipel

787
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Speaker 2: because I'm curious for your perspective. But Vandy gets that

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Speaker 2: win there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think that they needed to polish off

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Speaker 1: the season with that win. They needed to beat the

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Speaker 1: in state rival this season in Vanderbilt history. Yeah, Pavi,

792
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Speaker 1: I think, and I hope he does it end up

793
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Speaker 1: in New York. But just an awesome season. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna make the playoff, but boy, they came awfully close

795
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Speaker 1: and to win in Knoxville by three touchdowns and just

796
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Speaker 1: dominate the second half of that football game. What a

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Speaker 1: great year and clark Lee signs the extension. It's just

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Speaker 1: great time to be a Vanderbilt football fan, no question.

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Speaker 2: Very cool story emerging there. Tell you what, We'll come back.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna set up the playoff picture. It is crazy

801
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Speaker 2: after this week fourteen, heading into the conference championship games.

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Speaker 3: That's next. Fox Sports Tradio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome he to everybody, our two tours martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios

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Speaker 2: here at midnight Eastern time. De Seger just got you

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Speaker 2: caught up on all the news and notes from a

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Speaker 2: busy day in college football. The most noteworthy recent result

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Speaker 2: Alabama survives the Iron Bowl twenty seven to twenty the

810
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: final score there. Alabama will play or or Jia in

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Speaker 2: the SEC title game. As much as things change in

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Speaker 2: the SEC, they stay the same. And with it, I

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Speaker 2: do think we all think that Alabama, even with a loss,

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Speaker 2: would be in the college football playoff and so j Mart,

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Speaker 2: let's just do it. Let's go ahead and talk college

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Speaker 2: football playoff. There is one actually noteworthy game still going on.

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Speaker 2: It is Notre Dame, as de Sagre just told you

818
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Speaker 2: up twenty eight to three against Stanford. Certainly, if Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame loses this game one, it would be a very

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Speaker 2: interesting story.

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Speaker 3: But two, Notre Dame would be eliminated.

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Speaker 2: We're probably, for the sake of this argument, gonna assume

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Speaker 2: that that Notre Dame ends up winning. I'll tell you what, Mary,

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Speaker 2: I didn't tell you this. Get us some football music.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk some college football playoff. Who's in who's

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Speaker 2: out of the college football playoff?

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Speaker 3: Love it, Mary? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right, j Bart, let's start. So the SEC Championship

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Speaker 2: game is set Georgia against Alabama. Georgia entering I had

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Speaker 2: eleven and one, of course, the only loss to the

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Speaker 2: Alabama Crimson Tide at home.

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Speaker 3: Georgia, by the way, does have.

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Speaker 2: Wins over Tennessee, over Texas, over Old Miss all ranked.

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Speaker 2: I assume, and this can be quick if you agree,

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Speaker 2: it could be a simple yes or no Georgia regardless

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Speaker 2: of winner loss in the college football Playoff.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Absolutely, yeah, I had. Brian No asked me to

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Speaker 1: give my top two in terms of who can win

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Speaker 1: it all in the college football Playoff, And of course

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Speaker 1: the prerequist it was that they were going to be

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Speaker 1: in it. We did it for the NFL, both conferences,

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Speaker 1: and in college football. My number one was Georgia, My

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Speaker 1: number two was Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go. That pretty much tell you know.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I think Kirby has actually talked

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Speaker 2: about it, is that in this era, you know, it's

847
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Speaker 2: not about playing your best football in September October.

848
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Speaker 3: It's about playing it in November.

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Speaker 2: And they certainly feel like they are, especially with the

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Speaker 2: way that Texas finished things out on Friday night against

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Speaker 2: Texas A and M. For Georgia to have done with

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Speaker 2: they did just a few weeks ago. I'm with you,

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Speaker 2: Georgia is in. The only question is are they the

854
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Speaker 2: number one overall seed? Are they number two? We'll see

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Speaker 2: what happens there. Even with a loss at eleven and two,

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Speaker 2: they'd be in. I think they'd be hosting a playoff

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Speaker 2: game if they lose, I don't think they'd fall past

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Speaker 2: I guess it would be the eight spot second team.

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Speaker 2: So Georgia is playing Alabama in the SEC Championship game.

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Speaker 3: Alabama is ten and two.

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Speaker 2: Overall, they have a couple of really good wins, over

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Speaker 2: one over Georgia. Only team to beat Georgia, they of

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Speaker 2: course beat the now ten and two Vanderbilt Commodores. Their

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Speaker 2: losses were to Oklahoma, which is obviously we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: in a second a good win. And they do have

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Speaker 2: the worst loss of probably anyone in the playoff picture,

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Speaker 2: and that is to Florida State in Week one. Is

868
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Speaker 2: there any scenario, j Mart where you see, if Alabama

869
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 2: does not win this game, that they are not part

870
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: of the twelve team bracket.

871
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: No, I think that they are solidly in after winning

872
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: the Iron Bowl. I'm not even sure if they got

873
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: blown out by Georgia that they would miss out. Maybe

874
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: that would make it a little more interesting, but no,

875
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: I think I think at this stage they're safe.

876
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: All right, really quickly. And this can be a simple question.

877
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: I we're putting Ohio State Indiana, both undefeated, both in

878
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: the Big SEDGIMS says, by the way, says, we're not talking.

879
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

880
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: I haven't seen if there's a point spread yet. You

881
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: think Indiana could Indiana could pull off the win?

882
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: Right?

883
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: Even if they're they probably won't be favored in this game.

884
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look see real quick if there's a point

885
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: spread going forward.

886
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think so. I just I don't know,

887
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: like how hard are both those teams going at it?

888
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: You know, it's considering what's coming afterwards. I don't know.

889
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think now that they're they're they're

890
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: they'll both you know, they're gonna play hard. Ohio State,

891
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: by the way, is a five and a half point

892
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: favorite according to multiple sports books coming in.

893
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: That's probably fair, you know.

894
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: Jmart, that point is such a fascinating one. I we

895
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: just talked about it with the Saga a few minutes ago.

896
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: To Saga brought up the point of, oh, yeah, these

897
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: conferences get paid a lot of money to play these

898
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: conference championship games. But you brought up the point a

899
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: few weeks ago of Georgia fans openly talking about not

900
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: wanting to be in an SEC championship game. You know,

901
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: I think for Indiana it's maybe I'll say this for

902
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Remember, Ohio State hasn't been to a Big

903
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: Ten championship game since the COVID year of twenty twenty,

904
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: so I do think it means something to them but

905
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you is I think there's got to be

906
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: a better way after a twelve game regular season, and

907
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm not somebody that thinks we need to expand the

908
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: playoff further.

909
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm almost to the point.

910
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: Where I'd rather get to sixteen teams and eliminate the

911
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: conference championship games. I just think they serve no purpose

912
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: at this point. Really fun game in Indie. Both teams

913
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: are in, and unfortunately it's kind of like Georgia last

914
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: year where they lost Carson back to injury. I don't

915
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of positive that can come out.

916
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Of these games.

917
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: I'll add this too, I think there's a possibility that

918
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: even the loser ends up in the top four with

919
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 2: a first round by So now it's just the seman

920
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: antics of where you are in the bracket.

921
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 3: I could keep going.

922
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

923
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like both of those teams are in,

924
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: all right. ACC championship game is DREK. It is Virginia

925
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: versus Duke. The winner is in, loser is out. We

926
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: don't need to go there. I want to ask you

927
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: Texas Tech versus BYU in the Big twelve championship game.

928
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 2: Fascinating matchup, and I'll tell you why. Both teams are

929
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: ranked in the top twelve. Now, as de Seger has

930
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: pointed out and pointed out last week, BYU with their

931
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: ranking not currently in the bracket, if they were.

932
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: To lose this game, yeah, they have to win. That's

933
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: what I was gonna ask.

934
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: So Texas Tech, by the way, is an eleven and

935
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 2: a half point favorite coming into this game. Now, part

936
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: of it is these two teams played just a few

937
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: weeks ago in Lubbock. Texas Tech did beat them twenty

938
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: nine to seven in this game. So, first of all,

939
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: I'll ask you this, because again we're probably not gonna

940
00:46:58,520 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 2: have time to preview.

941
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 3: All of these games games.

942
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Do you think BYU has a chance or do you

943
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: think this is just a kind of a bad matchup

944
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: for them in this game.

945
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: I tend to think the latter. They have to win this.

946
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: I think Texas Tech's in either way. But at the

947
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: same time, I just I don't think they could match

948
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: up with them, So I think Texas Tech will blow

949
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: them out again.

950
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough matchup. First of all, BYU has

951
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: this fun little habit even though they are eleven and

952
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: one of basically falling down in every game that they play,

953
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: including today or Saturday. BYU and their season finale fell

954
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: down fourteen to nothing to UCF, which finished the season

955
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 2: seven to five. BYU proceeded to win the game forty

956
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: one to twenty one. So you can do some quick

957
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: math a forty one to seven run to end the game.

958
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I do think BYU probably needs to

959
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 2: win this game just because of how everything else has

960
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: shaken out. I'll say this though, I do think they

961
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: have they if things had gone a little bit different,

962
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: like if in Oklahoma had lost to Miami, had lost

963
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: to whatever. And I know Miami's ranked behind them right now,

964
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: but I think they have a pretty strong resume. Eleven

965
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: to one, only lost to a top five team, best

966
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: win over thirteenth ranked I guess it's fourteenth ranked now Utah.

967
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: They also beat Arizona, which is a ranked team. I

968
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: just I think if you lose to Texas Tech twice,

969
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: given all these other teams, I think it makes it

970
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: really hard.

971
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this though, really quick.

972
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: You mentioned you think Texas Tech is in regardless even

973
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: if they were to lose this game.

974
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Do I think Texas Tech is in? Yes?

975
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I do okay, Texas. So Texas Tech would be

976
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: eleven and two. They're currently ranked fifth, and I think

977
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: it goes back to the conversation that happened last year.

978
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 2: If you remember, anybody that was in the field heading

979
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: into the conference championship game was not punished, So I

980
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: would assume it would be the same for Texas Tech.

981
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm with you. We'll call Texas Tech the winner.

982
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: There.

983
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 2: That means, right now we have six spots automatically right now, Georgia, Bama,

984
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Indiana, the four teams in the SEC Big

985
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: Ten title games, uh, the ACC champ Texas Tech, and

986
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna put them in as the Big twelve champs.

987
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: Certainly if BYU wins, they are in, and that adds

988
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 2: another wrinkle to it. But again, eleven and a half

989
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: point favorite Texas Tech, I think that means to me

990
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: that Vegas feels pretty comfortable they're gonna win really quick.

991
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: G five, we'll just slot into lane which we'll play

992
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 2: for an AAC American title. But so that's seven spots

993
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: right there. So we have seven spots, and that includes

994
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: the losers of the SEC and Big Ten title games.

995
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: Really quickly, let's just run through these really quick Oregon

996
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: eleven and one, they're in right, Yes, okay.

997
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beating Washington assured that.

998
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: Yes, Oregon eleven and one. You know, they don't have

999
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 2: that great win on the resume, but let's give them credit.

1000
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: You know, down the stretch they finish it. They beat

1001
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: a USC team that finished the regular season nine to three.

1002
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: USC will finish as a top fifteen team when it's

1003
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: all said and done. They beat Iowa, they beat Washington,

1004
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: which entered the day quietly at eight and three going

1005
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: for a nine win season. Oregon at eleven and one

1006
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: to meet is unequivocally in I mean Texas A and

1007
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: M eleven and one, the signature win at Notre Dame.

1008
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: They did lose the season finale, definitely in right.

1009
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, I don't think there's any question about that.

1010
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

1011
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: The only thing I will say I saw A and

1012
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: M fans disappointed last night, understandably talking about, well we

1013
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: still get to host a playoff game.

1014
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: I think that's actually a little bit more up in

1015
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: the air.

1016
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. I could definitely see them

1017
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: having to go on the road now, because again you

1018
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: start looking at their schedule and who they were able

1019
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: to dodge. I think that that might hurt them a

1020
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: little bit when it gets to the seedings.

1021
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 3: Don't disagree.

1022
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: Probably you would think the SEC and Big Ten runners

1023
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: up at minimum would get the home games. You'd probably

1024
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: think Oregon would too. Anyway, we can figure all that

1025
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 2: out later. Ole Miss eleven and one don't know who's

1026
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: going to be coaching them. I think I actually know

1027
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: who will not be coaching them. Yeah, as the reports

1028
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: are that lane Kiffin is set the you know the

1029
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: latest for people just joining us, LSU is set to

1030
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: send two planes to Oxford on Sunday morning to pick

1031
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: up lane Kiffin. So it does not look like lane

1032
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: Kiffin will be coaching LS or Ole Miss in the

1033
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff.

1034
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 3: But at eleven and one, Old misses.

1035
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: In yes, they're in the question. I think that the

1036
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: bigger question is are they going to get dropped to

1037
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: where they have to go on the road where they're

1038
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: not going to be in a position to host a

1039
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: playoff game, because that is something that the committee takes

1040
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 1: into consideration, if coaches and or players, and of course

1041
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: you know you've seen that with Jordan Travis and different

1042
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: things through the years. Here you have a coach that's

1043
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: very much responsible for what Ole Miss has done this year,

1044
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: leaving that could put them in a spot. I do

1045
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: think that they are in, but I think that they

1046
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: are going to get faded a bit.

1047
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, and I think it's going to be

1048
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: fascinating to see how it all plays out here over

1049
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: the coming hours and weeks. And I just think it's

1050
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: fascinating to see again what the committee does with ole

1051
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: Miss One team that Old Miss did beat Oklahoma. Yeah,

1052
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: we're positive they're in. They're sitting in the eighth spot

1053
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: right now, one spot ahead of Notre Dame one, certainly

1054
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: a couple spots ahead of Miami Oklahoma, which by the way,

1055
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: we didn't even talk about an hour one almost lost

1056
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: to LSU.

1057
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: But Oklahoma we assume is in.

1058
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I think a two lost team in the

1059
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: SEC is the to be Yeah, is going to exactly

1060
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: is going to be in. I don't think they're that

1061
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: great because I just don't trust the offense, because I mean,

1062
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: I have eyes. But at the same time, they know

1063
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: they've beaten who is on their schedule, and some of

1064
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: those have been pretty impressive wins. I think Notre Dame

1065
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: is a better team than them, and there are some

1066
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: teams that will not get in that I think on

1067
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: any given day could beat them. But I just don't.

1068
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: I don't see a two loss SEC team being left

1069
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: out of this.

1070
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that brings us to the final spot.

1071
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: I'll reset here really quick. We have eleven spots that

1072
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: I actually agree with you on on all of them,

1073
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: and so I'll just reset them really quick. Georgia and

1074
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: Bama play for an SEC title. I think both teams

1075
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 2: are in. Even if Bama Law loses, that would be

1076
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: their third loss. I still think they get in Ohio

1077
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 2: State and Indiana and the Big Ten. They're both getting

1078
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: in an ACC champ out of the drek that is

1079
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: that league for people scoring at home. Virginia will play

1080
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: Duke seven and five Duke for an ACC title.

1081
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm not being sarcastic.

1082
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: That is actually the matchup Texas Tech versus BYU. For

1083
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: the sake of this argument, we have Texas Tech, which

1084
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: is an eleven point favorite eleven and a half point

1085
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: favorite next Saturday, winning that game, and then we have

1086
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: a group of five champ Tulane winning that game as well.

1087
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: So that's seven teams. We also have not playing next Saturday,

1088
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 2: but in right now Oregon, Texas A and m Ole

1089
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: Miss Oklahoma. That is eleven teams right now. That means,

1090
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: by my calculation, there is one spot for what I

1091
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 2: would deem to be five teams that range from very

1092
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: likely to extremely unlikely. But I will lay out all

1093
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: five and I'll let you decide what you think is

1094
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 2: the most most interesting. Okay, let's lay out those five.

1095
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

1096
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 3: The five teams.

1097
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm including Notre Dame, which is currently up twenty

1098
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: eight to three at the half against Stanford, or right

1099
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: around the half, it's a twenty three seconds left. I'm

1100
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: assuming a Notre Dame win to finish the regular season

1101
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: at ten and two. That also includes a Miami team

1102
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: that is ten and two that has the head to

1103
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: head win over Notre Dame. It also has a couple

1104
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: of not great losses. Both of the Miami losses, now

1105
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: with SMU losing on Saturday, will be too unranked opponents.

1106
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: The two losses were to Louisville, which finished the regular

1107
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: season at eight and four today and then also SMU,

1108
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: which finished today and four. I think both of them

1109
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 2: are unranked, So Notre Dame ten and two, Miami ten

1110
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: and two had to head win two unranked losses. The

1111
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 2: other three that I think will be discussion points, although

1112
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna hold up. I just

1113
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: don't think there's enough spots. One you already told me

1114
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: you don't believe we'll get in. That would be an

1115
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: eleven and two BYU Big twelve champ. Also two other

1116
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 2: teams Vandy at ten and two, and then I will

1117
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: also just for the sake because it will be a

1118
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: talking point.

1119
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: I can promise I hear.

1120
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: It comes, let's do it. Bring it on.

1121
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 2: Steve Sarksha says it will be the world's greatest injustice

1122
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: ever if a nine in three Texas is not in

1123
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff. For the sense we're just laying

1124
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: all the particulars out there, his argument is, certainly if

1125
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: they did not, if they had not scheduled Ohio State,

1126
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 2: they would be sitting at ten and two. Now I

1127
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: don't think you can equate that, but let's for the

1128
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: sake of argument. They also have a terrible loss to

1129
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: a four and eight Florida team.

1130
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: Horrible loss.

1131
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: So those are the five that I think will to

1132
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: a degree be in the conversation, Miami Notre Dame by

1133
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: you if they lose the conference championship game. Now, the

1134
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: interesting thing is you've said you think Texas Tech is in.

1135
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, b WHYU wins that twelve spots over? I think, oh,

1136
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: that's that's my opinion. I think Texas Tech gets in

1137
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: over the rest of them.

1138
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 2: Very interesting, all right, So Miami Notre Dame BYU two

1139
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: Lossvandy three lost Texas.

1140
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna give you the floor. You could take

1141
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 3: it wherever you want.

1142
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: My men, So of the teams, I think No Dame

1143
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: is the best, but I also think results have to

1144
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: matter and games are not played hypothetically. The argument, and

1145
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: to his credit, Brian no Diehard Notre Dame guy born

1146
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: and raised in South Bend, said that he's tired of

1147
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: the argument that, well, if they played right now, Notre

1148
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Dame would beat Miami. Yeah, but here's the problem. They

1149
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: did play. It doesn't really matter what you think might

1150
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: happen today because something already happened this season. That is

1151
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: a touchstone, That is a point that we can go

1152
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: back to and actually address. So here would be my

1153
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: argument to me, Texas is out three losses. The Florida loss.

1154
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: In particular, they're done everybody else that you want to

1155
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: mention in that spot if BYU loses again, even if

1156
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: both their losses are to Texas Tech, I don't think

1157
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: that's a strong enough resume outside of that to get

1158
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: them in. I think, just intellectually, Miami should be in

1159
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: over Notre Dame. I do not, like my heart wants

1160
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: to see Notre Dame because I think they're the better

1161
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: football team. I think they have a better chance to

1162
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: win a champceampion shipped than does Miami. I think they

1163
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: are better. But that can't matter because games are played

1164
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: that we spend a lot of time on Saturday nights

1165
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: talking about for a few months that game was played.

1166
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: We can't pretend like it was not. When they have

1167
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: the same exact record at the end and there's a

1168
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: head to head win for one team over the other,

1169
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's ridiculous to actually put

1170
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in over Miami. So I would argue for Miami,

1171
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: even though I do not think that's how it would go.

1172
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,919
Speaker 2: All right, So a couple interesting things on this one.

1173
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: You know, by the way, Notre Dame now up thirty

1174
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: five to three. As we head to halftime, they scored

1175
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: another great man.

1176
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 1: Their offense is incredible.

1177
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: No, you know, but listen a couple of things.

1178
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: One I do think it's it's worth noting is that

1179
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: this week Miami did move up in the rankings.

1180
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: Let's see here.

1181
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: They moved from I want to make sure I have

1182
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: this right from eighteenth. Oh no, no, I think I

1183
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: did this wrong anyway. Bottom line is they moved up

1184
00:58:58,720 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: in the rankings.

1185
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: Let me see. I'll do it really quick, I can.

1186
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 3: I can do this off the top.

1187
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: Of my head.

1188
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 3: Here.

1189
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: So they moved from h no, they moved they oh,

1190
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: they moved them from thirteen to twelfth.

1191
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: They also moved Notre Dame up one. Yes.

1192
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: The one thing that the committee did say during this,

1193
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: during their thing, is that Miami is now close enough

1194
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: to Notre Dame in the actual rankings, where they kind of,

1195
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: you know, they their argument is, they compare groups of

1196
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: teams more than individual resumes, and so now they've conveniently

1197
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: put Miami in a position to group them. They're in

1198
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: a position to compare them head to head with Notre Dame.

1199
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: And so that's really boring semantics to just say, very

1200
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: simply this BYU is probably going to lose. Alabama Independent

1201
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: is going to win, win or lose. So basically BYU

1202
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: and Alabama are going to get a result that is

1203
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: going to impact their positioning. All while Notre Dame and

1204
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: Miami are no going to be playing. BYU and Alabama

1205
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: are the two teams in the standings that separate Notre

1206
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: Dame in Miami. So the bottom line is that basically

1207
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: we will be able to compare them in the standings.

1208
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: The Committee has positioned it where they're going to be

1209
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: ranked right next to each other in the final standings,

1210
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: and then at that point you can flip it. And

1211
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: so that is a very long winded way of me

1212
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: saying for all the criticisms of the committee, I actually

1213
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: think they usually get things right, and I think they

1214
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: actually usually put brands brand bias aside, like last year

1215
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 2: when everybody wanted Alabama and they put in an SMU

1216
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: in the final spot, and I think they're going to

1217
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: eventually put.

1218
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: In Miami over Notre Dame.

1219
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: Miami season done at ten and two. Notre Dame we

1220
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: assume is going to win as they're up thirty five

1221
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: to three, not much time left, j Mart, But do

1222
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 2: you have any final thoughts, because I do agree with you.

1223
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: I think now that both teams have gone ten and two,

1224
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: they're going to be in a position where they're ranked

1225
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: side by side, and it will be easy for the

1226
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: committee to move Miami ahead of Notre Dame.

1227
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like again, I would rather see a playoff with

1228
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: Notre Dame than Miami based on the football that I

1229
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: have seen, But that's not how you do this. The

1230
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: right decision is for Miami to go in over Notre Dame,

1231
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: and that's going to make a lot of people upset.

1232
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: But this thing has to be objective, and it has

1233
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: to be well as objective as it can be in

1234
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: this case, and when you have an identical record but

1235
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: ahead to head win, I just don't see how you

1236
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: put the other team in.

1237
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 2: We will see what happens. I do think I agree

1238
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 2: with you, j mart. I think we're down to one

1239
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: spot for about technically five teams, but I don't think

1240
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: about three of them really have a leg to stand on.

1241
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: One late note in college football, Jeff Duncan out of

1242
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 2: New Orleans the Times Picky Unit is reporting to Lane

1243
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: coach John summer All. After his win tonight, said he

1244
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: will meet with his family and discuss his future. He said, quote,

1245
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: I've had opportunities presented, but that he wants to coach

1246
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: and plans to coach the team in the conference championship

1247
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: game next week. So John Sommerral will coach Tulane in

1248
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: the American Championship Game. He is the heavy favorite to

1249
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,919
Speaker 2: get the Florida job now that Lane Kiffin is out.

1250
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: And if you're just joining us, there are reports that

1251
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: there will be planes on the ground in Oxford on

1252
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: Sunday morning to pick up Lane Kiffin and make him

1253
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: the LSU head coach. Tell you what fun segment, j

1254
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 2: mart Long segment, we gotta come back, talk a little

1255
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: bit of Turkey Day, NFL, look ahead to week thirteen

1256
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 2: in the National Football League, and of course, get our

1257
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: extended update from Disager. This is it Fox Sports Tarty,

1258
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Ertorus. Jason Martin broadcasting

1259
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Huh, all right, Disager,

1260
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: there is an update on the Lane Kiffin situation from

1261
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 2: Marty Smith. I don't know if you've seen it yet.

1262
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: I'll get it over to you, but let's get the

1263
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: news desk for the saga as I just stole your

1264
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: spotlight on the day.

1265
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 6: That's fine, he said, Old miss sources tell me Lan

1266
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 6: Kiffin will hold a nine am team meeting Sunday morning

1267
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 6: and have an announcement regarding his future afterwards. And then

1268
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 6: Marty Smith, I assume can have a meal and actually,

1269
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: you know, sit down on a couch.

1270
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: He's the new ed Werder spend a day like he

1271
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 1: would like to.

1272
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 6: One note before all the football that we'll get to

1273
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 6: is Cooper Flaggs had a nice night as the Dallas

1274
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 6: MAVs are about to beat the Clippers. They're up now

1275
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 6: one twelve, one ten with two seconds to go in La.

1276
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 6: But Cooper Flag. According to Mark Stein, longtime NBA writer

1277
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 6: who covers Dallas these days, that Flag, not quite nineteen

1278
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 6: years old, became the second youngest player in NBA history

1279
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 6: to have a thirty point game, behind only Lebron James,

1280
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 6: who was about ten days younger, and Flag, one night ago,

1281
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 6: became the youngest to have ten assists or more in

1282
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 6: an NBA game. It is now one fourteen, one ten Dallas,

1283
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 6: and that's now a final. Flag finishes with thirty five points.

1284
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 6: It's just gone final. In college football, UNLV is ten

1285
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 6: and two after winning at Nevada and the cold forty

1286
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 6: two to seventeen neither way.

1287
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: Yes, great season from Dan Mullen.

1288
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: Like we don't talk about schools like that a lot,

1289
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: but you know, the Dan Mullen Florida divorce, it's looking

1290
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: like a lot less was Dan Mullen's to blame than

1291
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 2: maybe he was given credit for at the time. So

1292
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: now you know, we're not gonna like do a segment

1293
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: on it. But I just thought it was a worth

1294
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 2: acknowledging nice season.

1295
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 6: Because the Gators have had no other divorces before or.

1296
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 2: Well, No, what I'm saying is I mean he was

1297
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: pretty good for them. Yeah, and then he had a

1298
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Speaker 2: bad year and they canned them and he was out.

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Speaker 2: He's back in doing well and Florida's back in the

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01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: coaching mark.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying.

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01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 6: And then you think the ACC has some problems with

1303
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 6: some ties in who's going to the conference title game.

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01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: We'll get to the.

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01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 6: Mountain West situation, which includes UNLV in just a few

1306
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 6: minutes in about ten to fifteen, but a TV. There

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01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: are three late game games in college football. Number nine,

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 6: Notre Dame leads at Stanford, thirty five to three Stanford,

1309
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 6: with only about fifty yards passing and under forty yards

1310
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 6: rushing in the first half. Fresno State leads twenty one

1311
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 6: to seven at San Jose State early third and in

1312
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 6: the final seconds before halftime the late game at Hawaii

1313
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 6: as the home team up twenty to seven over Wyoming.

1314
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 6: Now Boston College was one to ten this year, but

1315
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 6: got an easy win at Syracuse Today thirty four to twelve.

1316
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: Duke started the day six and five, and they're headed

1317
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 6: to the ACC Championship game. Forty nine thirty two their

1318
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 6: final over wake Forest. Eighteenth rank Virginia beat Virginia Tech

1319
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 6: twenty seven to seven. Duke goes to the game in

1320
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 6: Charlotte next weekend because number twenty one SMU was beaten

1321
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 6: at cal tonight on a last minute touchdown. Thirty eight

1322
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 6: thirty five. NC State beat North Carolina forty two to nineteen.

1323
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 6: So coach Bill Belichick finishes two and six in the

1324
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 6: ACC and no, they're not going to a bowl game.

1325
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 6: Minnesota seven teen seven over Wisconsin, which finished two and

1326
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 6: seven in the Big Ten. Penn State was two and

1327
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 6: six in the Big Ten, but gotta win at Rutgers

1328
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 6: forty to thirty six. Rutgers finishes two and seven in

1329
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 6: conference play. Michigan State was zero to eight in the

1330
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 6: Big Ten, but got a home win against Maryland thirty

1331
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 6: eight twenty eight. Maryland finishes one and eight in conference.

1332
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 3: In a game on.

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01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 6: Fox tonight in the Snow, Illinois over Northwestern twenty to thirteen. Also,

1334
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 6: we had what was it the Pac twelve championship game.

1335
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 6: There's only two teams in the league, but Washington State

1336
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 6: beat Oregon State thirty two to eight. So Oregon State

1337
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 6: finishes two and ten, And can I mention that Washington

1338
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 6: State football with thirty two points that's just about the

1339
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 6: equal of Washington State women's hoops tonight because the Cougars

1340
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 6: lost their game to fifth ranked LSU one twelve to

1341
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 6: thirty five. Washington State had thirteen baskets and thirty one

1342
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 6: turnovers in this game.

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01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing like women's basketball blowouts. Man women's college basketball,

1344
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: it's like one hundred point victories.

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01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, and LSU now has a record eight straight

1346
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 6: one hundred point games after scoring the one to twelve

1347
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 6: in the Virgin Islands tonight. Back to you, thank you

1348
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 6: very much to seger I did met you know, we

1349
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 6: talked a lot for them.

1350
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: I know it's radio.

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01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 6: We talked a lot about the Alabama win in case

1352
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 6: people are just getting in. Alabama did win at Auburn

1353
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 6: twenty seven to twenty late fourth down touchdown pass, and

1354
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 6: the Ohio State win was twenty seven to nine at Michigan.

1355
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 3: My man, thank you so much.

1356
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: You'll be back with your extended update including Mountain West

1357
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: tie breakers stay tuned four way tie at the top.

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01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 3: As the saga just told you.

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01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: Finally year, by the way, you mentioned the PAC twelve,

1360
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, final year for the Mountain West as it stands.

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01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: By the way, how do you feel if you're in

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01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: a two team conference and you don't win it?

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 3: Probably not great? Probably not great?

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01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: Is that worse? I mean you finished last, also finishing

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01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: the conference? Yeah, yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. Like,

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01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if there's a glass half full,

1367
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: glass half empty portion or you just think, man, we

1368
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: stake there's only one other team in this thing and

1369
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: we still couldn't win it.

1370
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 3: I think they got bigger issues than trying to figure

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 3: out Yeah, no, I would agree with Yes, Oregon State

1372
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 3: needs oh Oregon State hired a new coach Jim JaMarcus Sheppard,

1373
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: the wide receivers coach Lane Kiffin.

1374
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: Get what if the given plot twist? She's always at

1375
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: a soft spot for Corvallis Oregon. I'll tell you a

1376
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 2: quick side story. I had an it's not it's not

1377
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: worth it, but I had a buddy who coached coaching

1378
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: the old Pac twelve and let's just say he did

1379
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: not have a lot of nice things to say about

1380
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 2: Corvallis Oregon. So anyway, uh, j mart, let's you know,

1381
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: we're probably not gonna have a ton of time to

1382
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: talk NFL a hour three With all this college football stuff.

1383
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 2: It seems as though, let's there's like four different times

1384
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,879
Speaker 2: Thursday was a not only a great day of football,

1385
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: but a consequential day of football. Same with Friday's Black

1386
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: Friday game. As the Bears beat the Eagles, I'll tell

1387
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: you what. I'm just gonna give it to you and

1388
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 2: we'll save the rest of the conversations for hour three.

1389
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: The most interesting result for one team on Thursday or

1390
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: Friday was and we'll discuss that for the next few minutes.

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01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta pick one.

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01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean, we only got four minutes until we got

1393
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 2: to get back to to Sega for the extra I'm

1394
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 2: gonna if you want to save a.

1395
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: Good conversation for the last hour, we can. If you

1396
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 3: wanna just you know, we can.

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: All right. Well, I'm just gonna pick one because I

1398
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: know we'll get to other ones.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: Sure, Baltimore, hmm, I'm glad you picked that one because

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't have a ton to say other than that.

1401
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, that might not. I think I've

1402
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: got more to say on other stuff. But I will

1403
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 1: say this. You get Burrow coming back, all right, But

1404
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: it's less about him coming back and more about the

1405
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 1: fact that Cincinnati is fielding one of the worst defenses

1406
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: in the history of the National Football League and Baltimore

1407
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: still can't do anything. Sure, I understand Lamar is not right.

1408
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 1: Like I understand there's some injuries there. He's not fully healthy,

1409
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: that he doesn't need to be playing because all he's

1410
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: doing is limping back. He's not able to do anything.

1411
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: He's not himself in any way. He says, this is

1412
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: not the worst stretch of his career. I beg to differ.

1413
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: This is bad. This is a team both of us

1414
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: had in the Super Bowl, no doubt, and every time

1415
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: I watched him, I'm like, man, they shouldn't even make

1416
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They may still because somebody has to win

1417
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: that division and you're seeing teams leaking oil all around them.

1418
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: And Cincinnati was three and eight by the time Burrow

1419
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: came back, and they're not going to run the table.

1420
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: But Baltimore is not able to Their offensive line is

1421
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: not very good. Lamar has not been accurate. He certainly

1422
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: is hampered by something. Is hamstring his knee, Something's going

1423
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: wrong there. Their defense is not very good. Like, this

1424
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 1: is a team. This team has fallen completely off a cliff.

1425
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: This is a wasted year for the Baltimore Ravens. My eyes,

1426
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: I do not see us like watching them get hot

1427
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: and end up in the super Bowl. This this looks

1428
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: like a complete flop in twenty twenty five.

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the disappointing thing is the division

1430
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: is just so there for the take. Yes, you know

1431
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:17,879
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has lost four of six. They play Buffalo on Sunday,

1432
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: and so I bring it up because if you win

1433
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: that game, and by the way, you're playing Cincinnati at home.

1434
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: We know Joe Burrow is special. We also know he's

1435
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: coming off two months where he has not played. If

1436
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: you just win that game, you're seven and five the Steelers.

1437
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,919
Speaker 2: If they lose to Buffalo, you're in first place alone

1438
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 2: in the standings going into the final stretch of the season.

1439
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: Now you're Baltimore one. We'll see what happens with Pittsburgh.

1440
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, this gives Cincinnati life. And

1441
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 2: you know, they obviously did a big, you know, production

1442
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 2: on why Joe Burrow decided to come back so late

1443
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 2: in the year. It's because with the way Pittsburgh's playing,

1444
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: the way Baltimore is playing, all of a sudden, Cincinnati

1445
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 2: is not out of the mix. They were three at

1446
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 2: eight coming in there, now four and eight going into

1447
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 2: this back half of the season. But I just bring

1448
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 2: it up because you look at Baltimore still have Pittsburgh,

1449
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: still have the return game at Cincinnati, plus the Patriots,

1450
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: plus the Packers, plus two games against the Steelers. So

1451
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because if you win this game,

1452
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 2: it just changes everything. And now, you know, forget wasted season.

1453
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 2: I just think they're just not gonna win it. They

1454
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 2: have too many good teams at a time went. Oh,

1455
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: by the way, the final three for Cincinnati are the Dolphins,

1456
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, and the Browns, and obviously the Steelers right

1457
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: now you know a little bit of an advantageous stretch

1458
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: as well, where they have two against the Ravens, the Dolphins,

1459
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: and the Browns as well. And so I could go

1460
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: on and on. I don't know if anything final to

1461
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 2: say on Baltimore, but you win this game, you're in

1462
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: first place in the division, maybe by yourself by the

1463
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: end of Sunday. Now you gotta hope for a Pittsburgh loss.

1464
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: And even then, Cincinnati's on your heels, were at home,

1465
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: you could have pretty much pretty much put them out

1466
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: of their misery before things even started, if you'd just

1467
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: taken care business Thursday night.

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01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was a perfect one

1469
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: just to have a couple of minutes on because I

1470
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: think there's more meat on the bone on some of

1471
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: these others. But yeah, like it was there for the taking.

1472
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: And it's an AFC that quite frankly, you look at it,

1473
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 1: it's just like there's no Juggernauts sitting here in this

1474
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: conference right now. There's just not not in based on

1475
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: what we've seen on the field, there are flaws in

1476
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: every single team and from week to week. I don't

1477
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: know who you can trust. Eventually, somebody is going to

1478
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: come out of that conference. But Baltimore is blowing a

1479
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: major opportunity, no doubt about.

1480
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 3: If Baltimore falls to the Cincinnati Bengals on Thursday night,

1481
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 3: that was one of three games on Thursday.

1482
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: One.

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: On Friday, we will have a lot of discussion on

1484
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, on the Chiefs, on the Bears, and the Eagles,

1485
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 2: amongst others. In our three Fox Sports Radio eron Tors

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01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are on until two am Eastern time.

1487
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 2: When we come back, Steve Desager with his extended update.

1488
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 2: He'll get you caught up on everything that happened in

1489
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: the world of sports, specifically college football, crazy final day

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 2: of the regular season. That's all Next Fox Sports Ratio

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01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,400
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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: every week, let's get over the news desk to Sega

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: with his extended update.

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 6: Guys, I have seen a stat that in Power Conference

1505
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 6: teams football, that it's happened five times where a team

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 6: had at least five losses in the season and still

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 6: made their conference championship game. Three of those five occasions

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01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 6: it happened in the ACC. Yeah, Duke, which started today

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Speaker 6: six and five, is going to the title game next

1510
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 6: weekend against Virginia. I'm not the first to point this out,

1511
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 6: but you know it was a few scant weeks ago

1512
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 6: that one Connecticut team did beat Duke, I'm very aware,

1513
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 6: and did win at Boston College. So maybe uh Yukon

1514
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 6: in the ACC title game. Maybe the coach can ask

1515
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 6: to stick around. I don't know you can work that out,

1516
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 6: as you coach.

1517
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: Weeks ago, Yukon had more wins in the ACC than

1518
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 2: Florida State did this year. I think Florida State has

1519
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: since tied us in the standing.

1520
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 6: I saw a stat that the list of teams to

1521
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 6: be winless on the road in the last two seasons

1522
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 6: in all of FBS, there's u Mass Okay, I can

1523
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 6: see that. Perdue the last couple of years. Florida State

1524
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 6: is zero to nine on the road the last two seasons.

1525
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,599
Speaker 6: If you're Bills coming back though, yes he is, Well,

1526
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 6: that was talk about. That would have been a heavy pant.

1527
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 6: Wasn't that over fifty mil? If they actually would have

1528
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 6: eaten fewest wins against FBS opponents the past two seasons

1529
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 6: by Power conference team, Perdue only has won the last

1530
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 6: two years. Oklahoma State only a couple, Mississippi State and

1531
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 6: Florida State each only five for the last two years combined. Well,

1532
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 6: we mentioned the ACC with seemingly everybody finishing six and two,

1533
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 6: and I did see a stat that if you look

1534
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 6: at the top six of the ACC standings, everybody's beaten

1535
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 6: everybody else at least once except for Duke. But Duke

1536
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,959
Speaker 6: Quinn's their tiebreakers, go figure and is going to Charlotte

1537
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 6: for the title game.

1538
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 2: The tiebreaker was how toughly did you play Yukon? You

1539
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 2: played them pretty tough. Okay, you're in that's right.

1540
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 6: That was a thirty seven to thirty four.

1541
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,839
Speaker 1: Game it was for the Huskies.

1542
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 6: A few weeks ago, the Mountain West announced that Sunday morning,

1543
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,839
Speaker 6: they will determine their two participants for the conference title

1544
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 6: game by a composite average of computer metrics. What UNLV

1545
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 6: finishes six and two, San Diego State lost in double overtime,

1546
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 6: Yesterday finishes six and two, Boise State on a late touchdown.

1547
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 6: One Yesterday twenty five, twenty four, they finished six and

1548
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 6: two New Mexico six and two. So you know, computer

1549
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 6: stuff that always works out so well.

1550
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin will make the announcement eda le right after

1551
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 3: his team meet.

1552
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 6: Do we not recall about twenty years ago when Pete

1553
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 6: Carroll's USC team was ranked number one in both polls

1554
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 6: and the computers instead said Oklahoma and LSU to the

1555
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 6: PCs title game.

1556
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 2: And that is, by the way, why any talk of

1557
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 2: eliminating a human committee is the stupidest thing.

1558
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 3: I've ever heard.

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01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: That is correct.

1560
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,759
Speaker 2: All people need to do is go back and remember

1561
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 2: how much we hated the computers. I'm stealing your segment

1562
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 2: to say, oh no, you are correct.

1563
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 6: That reinforces the opinion. Notre Dame iss scored again it's

1564
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 6: forty two to three at Stanford early in the third.

1565
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 6: If you didn't see any of the Alabama at Auburn game,

1566
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 6: I'll say it for not the first year. Shockingly, it

1567
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 6: was close. Tenth ranked Alabama won at Auburn twenty seven

1568
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 6: to twenty. This is an Auburn team that finished one

1569
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 6: in seven in conference, but on a touchdown pass with

1570
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 6: under four minutes to go on a fourth and two,

1571
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 6: Bama wins the game. Despite blowing up seventeen to nothing

1572
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 6: Lee late first have Auburn fumbled down at the Alabama

1573
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 6: twenty with about thirty seconds left. Auburn had ten penalties

1574
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 6: in this game. And so with the Friday A and

1575
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 6: M loss, Georgia is in the SEC title game in

1576
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 6: Atlanta against Alabama next Saturday. Of course, Georgia just won

1577
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 6: in Atlanta yesterday. We could have had A and M

1578
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 6: in that title game. They were eleven and oh they

1579
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 6: lost at Texas yesterday. And keep in mind, for the

1580
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 6: twelve team playoffs that starts next month, the five highest

1581
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 6: rank conference champions will automatically make the field. Miami will

1582
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 6: not be the ACC's champion. What if Duke is the

1583
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 6: ACC's champion, we might then get say, James Madison and

1584
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 6: Tulane in conference playoff in the national playoff.

1585
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: Could only be so lucky if be.

1586
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 3: Better than Duke.

1587
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I would rather see I'm not saying I'd

1588
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: be excited to see another group of five team. I'd

1589
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 2: rather see an eleven and one twelve and one team

1590
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: that actually did something this year, not one some weird TI.

1591
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 1: Rating completely agree.

1592
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 6: James Madison finished eleven and one today undefeated in the

1593
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 6: Sun Belt, dominating at Coastal Carolina. Troy won it's finale,

1594
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 6: and so we're gonna have James Madison hosting Troy Friday

1595
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 6: night in the Sun Belt championship game. Jacksonville State finished

1596
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 6: seven and one in Conference USA after edging Western Kentucky

1597
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 6: thirty seven thirty four. So in Alabama Jacksonville State Friday,

1598
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 6: we'll host the Conference USA title game against Kennesaw State,

1599
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 6: which won in double overtime at Liberty. And the MAC

1600
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,799
Speaker 6: Conference championship game is next Saturday, opposite the Big Twelve

1601
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 6: title game. They kick off at the same time. In Detroit.

1602
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 6: It'll be Miami Ohio against Western Michigan. Miami Ohio won

1603
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 6: its finale against Ball State to finish six and two

1604
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 6: in conference.

1605
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,600
Speaker 2: Say you're the man. Thank you very much. Busy Saturday

1606
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 2: in the world to college football. We're gonna come back

1607
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: and talk at all Lane Kiffin. We think is on

1608
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 2: the verge of a decision. All all of the conference

1609
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: championship games except the Mountain West, which is gonna use

1610
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: an advocates and a compass tomorrow to determine their champion.

1611
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: Is is final? We'll discuss the conference championship games. An

1612
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: interesting thing I just saw to j Martin, I want

1613
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,519
Speaker 2: to throw at you. Plus, we gotta talk. NFL Week

1614
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 2: thirteen has begun and there's plenty more coming on Sunday

1615
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 2: and Monday. Aratorys Jason Martin. We are taking you till

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01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: two am Eastern. This is Fox Worth three.

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our three tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio.

1619
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1620
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: Busy evening ahead. By the way, J Martin, let me

1621
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 2: just get a gripe off my chest. Right now, CBS

1622
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,839
Speaker 2: Sports Network is showing their quote unquote updated college football

1623
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: playoff bracket uh oh, with Miami in as the eleven

1624
01:20:55,200 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 2: seed and the only ACC team in the bracket. This

1625
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 2: has driven me crazy for weeks. Okay, if you're making

1626
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: a bracket online or on TV. And oh, by the way,

1627
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: we now know who's playing in the ACC Championship game

1628
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: and Miami is not that team, stop putting them in

1629
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: as the only ACC team. It's it's the stupidest thing,

1630
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: but it drives me bananas. That bracket literally cannot happen.

1631
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why I care so much, but it's

1632
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 2: like I've seen this for weeks. They're just like, hey, technically, no, no, yeah,

1633
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 2: Like we're living in this world where if thirty seven

1634
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: things happen that aren't gonna happen Miami gets into the

1635
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 2: big to the AEC Championship game. It's like they're not

1636
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 2: getting in and all you're doing is giving the casual

1637
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 2: Texas fan, Vandy fan BYU fan, whoever, hope that their

1638
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,839
Speaker 2: team has a pathway. And if we're under the assumption

1639
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: that Miami gets in with a head to head win

1640
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: over Notre Dame, which they got earlier in the year,

1641
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: like it's not happening.

1642
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

1643
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,560
Speaker 2: It just really annoys me. And it's been going on

1644
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: for weeks. And oh, By the way, it's especially egregious

1645
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 2: right now because I know CBS Sports is on CBS

1646
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: Sports Network is on live right now, and we know

1647
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: the ACC Championship game in Miami is not going to

1648
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: be in it. Sorry for the random rant, but God,

1649
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: did that? Does that annoy me?

1650
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 3: I don't know why. It just really annoys me.

1651
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: I understand. I understand because it's just illogical, and you know,

1652
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: the people that are doing it also know that it's

1653
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: not logical, but they're still putting it up there.

1654
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

1655
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: I actually just saw this from Nicole houer Back from

1656
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: NBC Sports, so two things can be true. I agree

1657
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: with a take. I also just fundamentally like it will

1658
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: just never happen for a very logical reason. So when

1659
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: Cole hour Back works for NBC, I find out to

1660
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 2: be really good, smart, well thought out, et cetera. Okay,

1661
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 2: she tweeted out at let's see here nine stern time.

1662
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 2: This might be an unpopular take, but if I'm the

1663
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: ACC and Cal upsets SMU, which is what happened, we

1664
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: now have a Duke Virginia ACC Championship game. She said,

1665
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 2: I would override the tie breakers and put Miami in

1666
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: the ACC Championship game against Virginia. I'll say this as

1667
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: a college football fan, I want that to happen because

1668
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch awful Duke in the ACC

1669
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: Championship game with five losses. The counter to that is,

1670
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 2: this is, weirdly actually the best thing for the ACC,

1671
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 2: because they're very likely going to end up with two

1672
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 2: bids again under the assumption that the College Football Playoff

1673
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: Committee gives Miami the edge over Notre Dame with the

1674
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: head to head loss. So I don't know if I

1675
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: have any bold takes on that one either. I just

1676
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting. I wish it happened, but I

1677
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 2: don't know why the ACC would actually do it.

1678
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: No, I just I think that that again, unfortunately, the

1679
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: games have to matter. And I say that, but it's like,

1680
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we're watching these We watched a regular season

1681
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: for a reason, sure, and it has to count. I understand,

1682
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: like kind of the mentality that we get you there,

1683
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, I would want the exact same thing,

1684
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 1: but that's just not how it works. Like, there is

1685
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: a reason why things are set up the way that

1686
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: they are. There's a reason why teams play twelve regular

1687
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: season games and those have to all factor in. So

1688
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: I don't like the precedent that it would set. And again,

1689
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: like I think one of the bigger problems here is

1690
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: just because the brands aren't nearly as impressive, it would

1691
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: look like brand bias on top of everything else. It's

1692
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: just a bad precedent to set. You can't go down

1693
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: this road where we're arbitrarily making decisions not based on

1694
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: what took place on the field.

1695
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll be quick on this. I said it

1696
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 2: to lead the show. I think it's time to just

1697
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 2: eliminate conference chamionship games. Again, another thing that probably won't happen.

1698
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,879
Speaker 2: You can keep the five you know, five conference champions

1699
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: getting auto bids into the college football playoff. I just

1700
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 2: don't think we have to play a conference championship game

1701
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,200
Speaker 2: to get them. Just give it the highest ranked team.

1702
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 2: Then Miami does get that acc bid, and you're putting

1703
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: your best foot forward, and by the way, Miami gets

1704
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: left out. You know whatever, it's a different conversation. So

1705
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: really quickly, let's switch gears to listen. It's the biggest

1706
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: story in sports. Disager just got you caught up on

1707
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,879
Speaker 2: all of the big scores from the world to college football.

1708
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: Probably if you missed any of the conversation, we did

1709
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 2: it a lot in our one. But Higo State beats Michigan,

1710
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 2: Alabama survives the Iron Bowl, Alabama going to the SEC

1711
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 2: title Game where they'll face Georgia. Let's go ahead and

1712
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: talk the big topic, the big story and the result

1713
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 2: that were the resolution probably is the better word that

1714
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 2: we thought we would have by now, but technically sort

1715
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: of don't, but sort of do. And that's what's going

1716
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 2: on with Lane Kiffin. So we came on air at

1717
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: eleven pm Eastern time. We had been told that Lane

1718
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: Kiffin would have a resolution on his future as of today. Saturday,

1719
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 2: Egg Bowl ended the regular season. He wanted to coach,

1720
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: the school wanted to coach him whatever. Keith Carter the

1721
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: AD said there would be a resolution by today. Issue

1722
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 2: became that coming into today, Ole Miss still had a

1723
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 2: chance to make the SEC Championship Game. There was a

1724
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: long meeting at Keith Carter the AD's house with Lane Kiffin.

1725
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 2: And it's funny because you and I surmised that basically

1726
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: it felt as though Lane Kiffin was basically throwing a

1727
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: fit wanting to continue coaching this team. Into the postseason

1728
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,600
Speaker 2: and Old Miss was basically saying, it's time for you

1729
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: to go, buddy.

1730
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 3: Bring it up.

1731
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 2: Just minutes ago, Brett McMurphy tweeted this out. Brett McMurphy

1732
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: of On three said, lane Kiffin is quote essentially demanding

1733
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 2: to finish the season with Old Miss, while simultaneously threatening

1734
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 2: to poach Old missus roster and staff if he can't.

1735
01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 2: Source told On three Sports quote, it's unfortunately gotten. E've

1736
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 2: been messier than expected as emotions are high. End quote

1737
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: from Brett McMurphy. Lane Kiffin has scheduled a team meeting

1738
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning where he's expected to tell the team that

1739
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: he is leaving.

1740
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 3: LSU are leaving four LSU.

1741
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Only bring it up because that is the latest from

1742
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy as of about nine minutes ago when he

1743
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 2: posted that.

1744
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: Chim listen man, I said off the top, and I've

1745
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: said this before. I'm a Lane Kiffin fan. I liked

1746
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: him when he came back out of you know, I

1747
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: mean the tarmac and everything that happened there. When he

1748
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 1: went to FAU. He used to come on Clay's show

1749
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 1: in the morning when I was producing. You know, I

1750
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 1: had a couple of conversations with Lane and we you know,

1751
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: just listening to him off air, just his conversations and stuff.

1752
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 1: I liked what I heard from him, and you've heard

1753
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: some good things from him in the last few years

1754
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: in terms of sobering up and maturing and all these

1755
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: other kinds of things and all this this is insane. Sure,

1756
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, This is immature. Absolute Honestly, if this

1757
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: is pathetic, like if you are going somewhere else, go

1758
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: but like, you have the right. Look, nobody is saying

1759
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: you don't have the right to go to you to LSU.

1760
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: You have earned that because you have done a fantastic

1761
01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: job at ole Miss and we already knew you were

1762
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: an offensive guru. You've proven it in multiple locations, and

1763
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: you have built yourself to where you are a hot

1764
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,480
Speaker 1: commodity that everybody wants. Four years ago, you were campaigning

1765
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: for the LSU job and couldn't get it. You wanted

1766
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: the Auburn job. They didn't go with you. You thought

1767
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: about Florida, you flirted with them in the past. Now

1768
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: they're all coming to you with their pockets out saying

1769
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: please please come here. You have the right to do that.

1770
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: You have earned the right to do that, but you

1771
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: have not earned the right to do it on your

1772
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: own terms at the expense of the place you're leaving.

1773
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: And that becomes the issue here. All of the water

1774
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: carriers that think that ole Miss is somehow being punitive

1775
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: and punishing poor Lane Kiffin because he wants to take

1776
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 1: this job, but he really wants to see this whole

1777
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: thing through. This is insane. Again. If you don't understand

1778
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: the sec then you don't understand the rivalry between ole

1779
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Miss and LSU. They hate each other. Ole Miss absolutely

1780
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: cannot stand LSU. A lot of ole Miss fans consider

1781
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: LSU a bigger rival than Mississippi State. And you are saying,

1782
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 1: if you are Lane Kiffin, who have been ingrained in

1783
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: that community now for six years, you are saying, Hey,

1784
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the place you despise after bringing

1785
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: you up for a while, I'm gonna go to the

1786
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: big dog now. But I do want to coach you

1787
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: during the college football playoff. I want to see this

1788
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: thing through. No, I can't believe that there are smart

1789
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: people in this industry that are suggesting that that is

1790
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: somehow a not only just a possibility, but something ole

1791
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: Miss should capitulate too. That's ridiculous. If he wants to

1792
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 1: go somewhere. He's saying, look, I really do like you.

1793
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I just don't think your marriage material and that's fine.

1794
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: But then ole Miss needs to move on, and so

1795
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: does Lane Kiffin. It's ugly, it's gross, but these are

1796
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 1: how breakups take place. We're not sitting here for the

1797
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: next five or six weeks, you know, playing foot seat

1798
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: underneath the table with our recruits to then bring them

1799
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge after this thing, get on the airplane

1800
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 1: with your family, put on the purple and yellow, learn

1801
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: from Brian Kelly's mistake, not the fake an accent, and

1802
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: become the LSU Tiger's head coach. Have the press conference

1803
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: and you know, have the ticker tape parade in Baton

1804
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,480
Speaker 1: Rouge and everything else, but get the heck out of Oxford.

1805
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 1: This cannot happen. I don't care what you're demanding. If

1806
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm ole Miss and I'm Carter, I'm like, don't let

1807
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: the screen door hit you on the keyser and the

1808
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: way out. Yeah.

1809
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 2: My stance is I actually think I think it was

1810
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 2: a semi selfish I think Keith Carter it was clear

1811
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: that I think he could have easily said dude, if

1812
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 2: you're not with us, because remember Ole Miss had a buy.

1813
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: So this is basically been going on for three weeks now,

1814
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 2: since the really the start of the Florida Week, but

1815
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 2: even the end of the Florida Week, it's like it's

1816
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 2: been clear that he's at minimum gonna flirt. He doesn't

1817
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: want to talk about it, but he also wants to

1818
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: keep his options open, but he also wants to coach

1819
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: the team. And I said it last week, I said,

1820
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: I actually respect the ad for doing this because you

1821
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: can't drag it on forever. And for people who don't

1822
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 2: really understand the calendar, it's a few things. Is one,

1823
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: we're talking about the college football playoff going deep into January.

1824
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 2: If Ole Miss keeps winning, and people would say, well,

1825
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 2: why can't you just wait till the end, Well, because

1826
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: you have to hire a new coach, and that new

1827
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 2: coach needs to get boots on the ground and start

1828
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 2: to get to work on next year. And there's gonna

1829
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 2: be people that say, well, well, just let him finish

1830
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 2: it out. The other variable is that in this world

1831
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 2: that we live in, he will be coaching many players

1832
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 2: that he plans to recruit to LSU the day the

1833
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 2: season ends, and so the Bret McMurphy tweet referenced it.

1834
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 2: But you can't have him in that locker room coaching

1835
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 2: these guys up until the bitter end. And then oh,

1836
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: by the way, the game goes final on you know,

1837
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, you lose in the Rose Bowl or whatever,

1838
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 2: and then oh twelve oh one. Hey, by the way,

1839
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: I throw down the you know, like you'd always talk

1840
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:37,560
Speaker 2: about the wrestling stuff, Jabart, throw down the old miss advisor,

1841
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 2: put on the LSU visor and say who's coming.

1842
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 3: But you can't do that.

1843
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: And so, like I understand the notion of wanting to

1844
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 2: start what you finish what you started, Well, guess what,

1845
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 2: there's a way to do it. Agree to keep coaching

1846
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: the team for the foreseeable future, and agree to come

1847
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: back next year. And by the way, just I'll put

1848
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,679
Speaker 2: a bow on it by saying, people that are blaming

1849
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 2: that this is somehow a calendar issue, it'd be no

1850
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: different if, for some crazy reason, Sean McVeigh said, I

1851
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 2: want I'm coaching the New York Giants next year, and

1852
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: I have made that decision, and there's nothing you can do.

1853
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 2: It's not on the RAM like like like, the calendar

1854
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 2: doesn't line up for Sean McVay to do that any

1855
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 2: different than it does for Lane Kiffin. Like at some point,

1856
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 2: Sean McVay would have to make a choice, are you

1857
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,640
Speaker 2: gonna be the RAMS coach in the playoffs? Are you

1858
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: gonna go take this other job? You can't do both.

1859
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: And it's the same with Lane Kiffin. For anyone to

1860
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 2: complain about the calendar, there's no calendar designed for a

1861
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 2: coach that's good enough to win the national championship to

1862
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: also leave his school. So I just threw a lot

1863
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: out there, But that's just a little bit of context.

1864
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 2: You can't keep letting him coach. And so you reference

1865
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 2: some of the comments that were made throughout the day,

1866
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 2: you know, you referenced you know whoever saying that Ole

1867
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 2: Miss was being emotional about this.

1868
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, look, no, no, I think you're being hurt.

1869
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Street said, I'll call him out. I mean in this

1870
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: case Herpstreet said, ole Miss Hester, you have to leave

1871
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 1: the emotion out of this. He would want his players,

1872
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: would want him to finish this off. He wants to

1873
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: finish this off. How could you do this and of course,

1874
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: you know Saban backed it up as well on the

1875
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 1: same set and all this other stuff, and it's like,

1876
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: I do think that, and you made this point. I

1877
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: do think that Ole Miss generally has been pretty even

1878
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: keeled about this, considering how they've just kind of been

1879
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: strung along for a few weeks at this point. But

1880
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,679
Speaker 1: this is not some kind of punishment for Lane Kiffin.

1881
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 1: This is the cost of doing business. You're going somewhere else.

1882
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 1: That means you're not coaching here. We have to move

1883
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 1: on for our future immediately, just like you do. And honestly,

1884
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 1: we haven't really taken it from this perspective. I'm lsu,

1885
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 1: I'm paying you to be my coach. Get the hell

1886
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: of gotten, rouge. I don't need you worried about the

1887
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: college football playoff ter and recruiting portal and nil and

1888
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: everything else that's going on. I'm sorry that the calendar stinks,

1889
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: but unfortunately there's only twelve months in the year, and

1890
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: college football is a pretty dem ending sport from the

1891
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: coaching perspective because of what it takes to field a team,

1892
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: build a team, buy a team, all the things that

1893
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 1: go into that. But I'm not paying you a dummy

1894
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: year to go ahead and enjoy your time at ole

1895
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Miss and then come here Like that's not how this works.

1896
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 1: I need you on the ground for me, one hundred

1897
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:25,759
Speaker 1: percent committed. Remember this is Alane Kiffen, who Nick Saban

1898
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: sent away during a playoff during the postseason because he

1899
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: was distracted because he had taken the FAU head coaching job.

1900
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: It's the same kind of thing, like and that was

1901
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 1: a much different scenario. He was going from Alabama OC

1902
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: to a head coaching job at Florida Atlantic. Here it's

1903
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 1: going to the rival and the rival's gonna wait, and

1904
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: the person that you're there is gonna like no, no,

1905
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: Like this is just I understand what Lane wants. I

1906
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 1: understand that Lane would love to have both jobs in

1907
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: his own head, but unfortunately we don't live in fairytale land.

1908
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Like we gotta be men. We got it's time to

1909
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: just grow up. The decision is made, go ahead and

1910
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,759
Speaker 1: leave like this is this is a rap. We gotta

1911
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: stop this.

1912
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: We only got like a minute or two before we

1913
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:17,439
Speaker 2: do have to switch gears to the NFL. Is there

1914
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 2: a world where this just like because like you're hiring

1915
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin at LSU A school that three of the

1916
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: last four coaches have won national championships to win national championships, like,

1917
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: is there a world, because I do think it is

1918
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: fair at the end of the day to be like,

1919
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 2: are we sure this guy's worth all of this hassle?

1920
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: And it was kind of it was a conversation when

1921
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: it was LSU and Florida were both tripping over themselves

1922
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: to hire this guy, like do you see the world

1923
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: where he just goes to LSU And maybe it's pretty good,

1924
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 2: but it's.

1925
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: Because like.

1926
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 2: LSU is is to your point, in their own way,

1927
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to put up a lot of with a

1928
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 2: lot of crap once he gets there. And I'm just

1929
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be awesome there. I'm not trying

1930
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: to like for all of the crap that he's put

1931
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: all missed through, he is an excellent coach and he

1932
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: has him at eleven. And one I do just think

1933
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 2: it's interesting is like he has never made the playoff.

1934
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 2: He'll have never coached a playoff game by the time

1935
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 2: he gets to LSU, h never won a conference championship.

1936
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,599
Speaker 2: It's just I don't know. I just I think he's

1937
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 2: gonna be awesome. But I feel like there's a world

1938
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 2: where we went through all of this and he isn't

1939
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: what LSU signed up for.

1940
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I will say is that what

1941
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: he has done at ole Miss, he could have done

1942
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: for the next thirty years, and I think they would

1943
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: have been happy with him there.

1944
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 3: Yep.

1945
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: If he does that at LSU, he'll be fired in

1946
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 1: five years. Great cop, that's the difference. He was building

1947
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: a legacy at a place where the expectations were reasonable

1948
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: for him, where he had full control. And let's not

1949
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:52,080
Speaker 1: forget ole Miss did everything under the sun to help

1950
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 1: him while he was there. They let him run it

1951
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the way he wanted to. They gave him all the

1952
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 1: resources known to mankind to help him through it. They

1953
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: gave him everything that he possibly could have asked for.

1954
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: There was nothing left for them, and they were gonna

1955
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 1: match whatever the money deal was as well, so there

1956
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 1: was nothing left for them to do. And he's still

1957
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:13,840
Speaker 1: going to leave and he's going to a place that

1958
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: just paid out ten mil ninety mil or our ten

1959
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: years ninety mili to Brian Kelly, another guy who had

1960
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 1: not won a championship before he got there, who failed,

1961
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 1: And now they're looking at seven years, ninety eight million

1962
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 1: dollars for you. You're coming in and there's only one expectation,

1963
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:36,560
Speaker 1: you are going to win a national championship. So what

1964
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,240
Speaker 1: that tells me is this, Lane Kifvin does not believe

1965
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: he can win a national championship at Ole Miss, if

1966
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: he did think he could actually do it there, with

1967
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 1: the resources involved, whatever it is that it takes to

1968
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: build a roster at Ole Miss, he must think it's

1969
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: just not something that's gonna happen. That he's gotten close,

1970
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 1: but that he's hit the ceiling, because why on earth

1971
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: would you leave for another job if you thought you

1972
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: could win? And in this era of college football, I'm

1973
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: not so sure he hasn't made a mistake.

1974
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll just be quick in saying this is

1975
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: that I saw a tweet and I thought it summed

1976
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 2: it up really well. It was basically to the effect

1977
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:21,320
Speaker 2: and a paraphrasing of if all of the if you're

1978
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,560
Speaker 2: leaving Old Miss to do all of the things that

1979
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: you can't do here, why are you currently doing all

1980
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 2: of those same things?

1981
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: And that's a bad way to phrase it.

1982
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 2: It was phrased better in the tweet, But essentially, if

1983
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 2: the argument is you got to go there, to make

1984
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 2: the playoff, to win a national championship, to do whatever,

1985
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 2: maybe make an SEC championship game almost happened this year.

1986
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 2: He's doing everything at LSU at Old Miss that he

1987
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 2: could do at LSU. Now, obviously there are some stages

1988
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 2: that he never had the opportunity to get to it

1989
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 2: Old Miss, but it is worth noting he you know,

1990
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,759
Speaker 2: he had a pretty good run and then to your point,

1991
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 2: currently feels like he has done everything that he can

1992
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 2: at all Miss.

1993
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 3: For people just joining us, there.

1994
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 2: Are multiple reports out now that there will be planes

1995
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:12,759
Speaker 2: on the ground in Oxford on Sunday morning. Lane Kiffin

1996
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: will have a team meeting and he is expected to

1997
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 2: board a plane to Baton Rouge by the early afternoon.

1998
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live

1999
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Hey be sure to

2000
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,400
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2001
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,000
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2002
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,400
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2003
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2004
01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:37,760
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2005
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2006
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 3: Come back.

2007
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,839
Speaker 2: We will talk week thirteen of the NFL four games

2008
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 2: in the books, and obviously several more coming on Sunday

2009
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: and Monday.

2010
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 3: Erators Jason Martin, Fox.

2011
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio Aerators. Jason

2012
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2013
01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 3: I think we're done with college football.

2014
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 2: Right now, although Alex Golish, the South Florida coach who

2015
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 2: appears to be a candidate for Ole miss if Lane

2016
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 2: Kiffin leaves for Arkansas for Auburn, just tweeted quote grateful,

2017
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 2: quote grateful quote grateful. Okay, so I don't know what

2018
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 2: that means, but story bro, Yeah, yeah, so I think

2019
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 2: that means he's probably leaving in the morning, just a

2020
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 2: matter of where and who. That's another reason, and that's

2021
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,120
Speaker 2: why you have to boot lane Kiff into the curb.

2022
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: Like the guys that in theory want this job are

2023
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 2: going to have other hypotheticals too.

2024
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 1: All right, look at what's happening in Auburn. I mean,

2025
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 1: Auburn thought they were they were gonna get some raw.

2026
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: Now it looks like Florida is gonna get some raw.

2027
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 1: And I saw a comment that said, what's hilarious about this?

2028
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 1: Is both Auburn and Florida fans are upset about that. Yeah,

2029
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:00,720
Speaker 1: just unbelievable.

2030
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it's interesting. Some are all coming from

2031
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: the group of five ranks. Of course, Billion Napier was

2032
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: a total flop there, so I think people are frustrated.

2033
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 3: Uh, you know who hasn't been a flop? J Martin,

2034
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer.

2035
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: Man, we need to let's do it. Let's apologize. Yeah,

2036
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 1: so let's let's apologize.

2037
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 2: So you did two pros on Friday, Thursday and Friday,

2038
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 2: I did uh Covino and Rich as well as the

2039
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show on Thursday, and I said, this is that

2040
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,759
Speaker 2: and we were all fair before the game went final.

2041
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 2: But I said, at minimum Schottenheimer one, he's exceeded every expectation. Okay,

2042
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are obviously in the playoff mix at the

2043
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 2: very least. This is what they're a really fun watch

2044
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 2: day they are And like, I don't know even when

2045
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 2: the Cowboys were winning eleven games a year that they

2046
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 2: were as fun of a watch as they are now.

2047
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is playing as well as he has been

2048
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 2: the George Pickens. Pickens has not blown up in their

2049
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 2: face and you know, this was a guy and I'll

2050
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: include myself. I made fun of the higher you know,

2051
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 2: the line I said all offseason was it feels like

2052
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 2: there's an inside joke going on on the Cowboys that

2053
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: they think they're on the inside of, but they're the

2054
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 2: butt of the joke. This guy has impressed me. Cowboys

2055
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day to improve two six'

2056
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 2: five and. One and AS i mentioned very much in

2057
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 2: the playoff, conversation, yeah, look.

2058
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: And here's the other. Thing What's Brian schottenheimer known?

2059
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:29,560
Speaker 4: For?

2060
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: Offense? Yep what are The cowboys really good at this? Year?

2061
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 1: Offense the play calling has been, Good dak's been. Amazing

2062
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: to your point About, PICKENS i, Mean pickens, was you,

2063
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,639
Speaker 1: know a guy that couldn't get out of his own

2064
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 1: way a lot In. Pittsburgh as much talent as he,

2065
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 1: had he kind of reminded me a lot of What

2066
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 1: Jameson williams does when he makes me roll my eyes In.

2067
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Detroit he's got all sorts of, talent but he still

2068
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 1: spins the ball on the opponent's face and does all.

2069
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: This AND i understand that that helps him play with an,

2070
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: edge and it's probably one of the reasons he's so,

2071
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: good but it's also he makes some boneheaded decisions TO

2072
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: harmss football, team And pickens was kind of volatile hadn't

2073
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: been In dallas, Though like all of a, sudden him

2074
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 1: And Ceedee lamb just living their best life out, here

2075
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 1: like one of the best tandems in the, league and

2076
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:22,959
Speaker 1: they could run. It dak is being protected with the. Football,

2077
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: yeah the defense is not, good but the side of

2078
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: the football That Brian schottenheimer has been most responsible for

2079
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: is crushing it like they are absolutely. DOMINANT i, mean

2080
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,520
Speaker 1: look at. THIS i, mean they beat the two participants

2081
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 1: in last Year's Super bowl in four. Days they came

2082
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 1: back and beat The eagles On sunday and then beat

2083
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: The chiefs On. Thursday they're just they're better than they

2084
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,840
Speaker 1: should be by our own. Estimation, Remember Michaeh parsons doesn't

2085
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 1: play for them either. ANYMORE i think they had a

2086
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,799
Speaker 1: pretty good move a couple moves there at the deadline

2087
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 1: For Jerry. JONES i still, think you, know you're probably

2088
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: not better Without Michaeh, parsons but the fact of the

2089
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: matter is you weren't winning when he was. There whatever

2090
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: has changed for, Them Brian. Schottenheimer if you were going

2091
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 1: to bury him because they were a two win football

2092
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,919
Speaker 1: team right, now you got to get him some. Flowers

2093
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 1: he's done. Well he looks like he has the respect

2094
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 1: of the. Team he seems to be running a very

2095
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: mature professional outfit down. There when you hear him, talk

2096
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 1: he seems to know what he's doing as, Well like

2097
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 1: we may have just gotten this one wrong, eron and

2098
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: that's all, Right Like i'm not rooting to be right

2099
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: When i'm talking about somebody's. Failure and so WHEN i

2100
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 1: See Brian schottenheimer exceeding expectations and doing a good, JOB i, say,

2101
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: man good for. Him but you're, right The cowboys had

2102
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 1: become so boring in the last four or five. Years

2103
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: it felt, like right now they're one of the most

2104
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: exciting watches in the. League and offensively they, are can't

2105
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: miss they.

2106
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 2: Are and, YEAH i, mean you know the other thing,

2107
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 2: too which was interesting because AND i thought it was

2108
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: a fair argument at the, time is, that you, Know

2109
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,680
Speaker 2: mike McCarthy little bit of a loose. Ship you, know

2110
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 2: a couple of years they led the league in, penalties you,

2111
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 2: know kind of meltdowns at the worst possible. Time whatever

2112
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: AND i remember it was one of the cowboys that's

2113
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 2: ON tv all the. Time maybe it Was Michael, irvin

2114
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 2: maybe it was somebody. ELSE i can't, remember basically saying, like,

2115
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 2: dude now you're just promoting from within that, culture which

2116
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 2: was The mike McCarthy. Culture those guys aren't going to respect.

2117
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,560
Speaker 2: Him AND i bring it up because WHEN i was

2118
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 2: filling in For, gottlieb we Had Adam kaplan on the

2119
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,200
Speaker 2: show AND i don't know if you ever talked To

2120
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 2: adam J mart but super plugged IN nfl, guy old,

2121
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 2: school Big, jay smart guy. Whatever AND i ACTUALLY i

2122
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 2: asked him something About schohanenheimer and he said the thing About,

2123
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 2: shadi and he did call Him, shody SO i guess

2124
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 2: he has some sort of relationship with.

2125
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 3: Him he, said think About.

2126
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 2: Shady he's an old school like, disciplinarian and LIKE i

2127
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 2: guess he's harder on guys THAN i was led to.

2128
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 2: Believe LIKE i thought he was just kind of the

2129
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 2: guy that's in the lab drawing up, plays you know.

2130
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: Whatever and it does feel like now, listen they you,

2131
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 2: know they have some you, know weird losses throughout the.

2132
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 2: Season although even their their, LOSSES i think in, hindsight

2133
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 2: some of them don't look as. Bad Right they lose

2134
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 2: At carolina early in the, year and you're, like, well

2135
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: you know what About. Carolina well here you, go that Typical.

2136
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 2: Cowboys it's, like, Well carolina right now is basically in

2137
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 2: the same position That dallas is in the playoff, hunt

2138
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,679
Speaker 2: in the wildcard, picture the loss of The bears doesn't

2139
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,920
Speaker 2: look nearly as bad as it did in real. Time

2140
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,400
Speaker 2: SO i Just i'm with, you IS i, am you,

2141
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 2: know very impressed by. Him i'm very impressed by THE

2142
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 2: i Told bayer this. TOO i don't know if you, agree, disagree.

2143
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 2: WHATEVER i actually find The cowboys to be very easy

2144
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 2: to root for this. Year, schottenheimer everybody's doubted, Him. Dak

2145
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 2: i've said it Since, august the way that he just

2146
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,040
Speaker 2: you never, heard you, KNOW i can't remember a press

2147
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 2: conference that he did during The Micah parsons. Thing nothing

2148
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 2: negative About, micah nothing negative about the.

2149
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: Organization, Wise he's extremely, likable LIKE i think he always has.

2150
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,600
Speaker 1: Been but, YEAH i, mean that's that's a point this

2151
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:08,879
Speaker 1: worth making over and over. Again he is an extremely likable.

2152
01:48:08,960 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 1: Superstar and then the only.

2153
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 3: Other THING i was gonna say, too.

2154
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 2: WAS i don't know if you've yet had and maybe

2155
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a time, commitment SO i

2156
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 2: don't know if you will with two young. Kids but

2157
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 2: The cowboys documentary that came out this summer like it

2158
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 2: does LIKE i think it. Like the thing THAT i

2159
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: took out of it, was, Yes jerry's, eccentric and yes

2160
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 2: he's frankly, like just call what it is an egomaniac

2161
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 2: and a. Narcissist but you can't deny that the guy

2162
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 2: just wants so bad for The cowboys to be, good

2163
01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: and that basically the years left where they have an

2164
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: opportunity to do it where he can enjoy it are

2165
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 2: few and far.

2166
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 3: Between so, ANYWAY i don't mean to get, dire AND

2167
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:47,959
Speaker 3: i do think he wants.

2168
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: To, win BUT i think he still wants to do

2169
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,360
Speaker 1: it on his terms while being the center of. Attention

2170
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: AND i.

2171
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Don't disagree with, that BUT i bring it up to

2172
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 2: SAY i find them to be a very, sympathetic very

2173
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 2: and easy to root for, team AND i don't think

2174
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 2: you can say that for most of any iteration of

2175
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 2: The Dallas cowboys in the last thirty.

2176
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 1: YEARS i would say it has to be among the

2177
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: most just wrong Takes i've had in a. WHILE i

2178
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 1: don't think it quite measures up to me thinking that

2179
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 1: The rams are going to be bad this. Year, sure

2180
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,439
Speaker 1: because right NOW i think they're headed to the Super,

2181
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: bowl but it was based On Matthew stafford's health, largely

2182
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: so you, know hopefully that's going to continue along the.

2183
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 1: Way but, man it. Is i'm fine to be wrong

2184
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: when it's making for better, sports and in this case

2185
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: it absolutely. Is and again to your, point Like i'd

2186
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: love to See dak have success Because, dak Just dak

2187
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:45,639
Speaker 1: has always rubbed me as somebody that has worked super

2188
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: hard for, it and he has dealt with the criticism

2189
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: in a very a very mature manner where he's just

2190
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,679
Speaker 1: kind of been above it and hasn't really reduced himself

2191
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:57,800
Speaker 1: to addressing it all that.

2192
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 2: Much really, quickly with The chief two games out of

2193
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: the playoff picture in the lost, column obviously a lot

2194
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,840
Speaker 2: of teams have not played. Yet, Ironically buffalo is in

2195
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: seventh place right, now.

2196
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 1: Just real.

2197
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,639
Speaker 2: QUICK i don't think this is like a crazy, take

2198
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 2: BUT i think my take is pretty consistent with the last, three, four,

2199
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,280
Speaker 2: five six. WEEKS i don't think a magic turnaround is.

2200
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 2: COMING i just think And i've said this and a

2201
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 2: lot of others. Have i'm not claiming it as an original.

2202
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: Take you go back to The patriots. Dynasty they had

2203
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 2: two different dynasties and one the early part that was

2204
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 2: the you Know Teddy, bruski you know, whoever Ted Teddy,

2205
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 2: johnson like those guys. Dynasty and then you had the

2206
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 2: part two With gronk And edelman and all those, guys

2207
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 2: And Tom brady was a. LYNCHPIN i feel like we

2208
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 2: are heading out of phase one With Patrick mahomes and

2209
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:53,879
Speaker 2: now you're old and slow in a lot of. Places

2210
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: you gotta get some draft, picks you got to hit

2211
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 2: on some draft. Picks you gotta get. YOUNGER i just

2212
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: don't see it with this, team AND i know we've

2213
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 2: said it like literally every week this. YEAR i don't

2214
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: think that the fix is, coming AND i think they

2215
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 2: need to some major overhaul over the next.

2216
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: Year so one hundred. PERCENT i made the exact same

2217
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 1: analogy a couple of days ago WHERE i felt like

2218
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,920
Speaker 1: this this was kind of The patriots off the. Peak

2219
01:51:18,360 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't get there because you have a

2220
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: lot more youth in terms Of mahomes is still younger

2221
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 1: and all, that but, like this feels like a team

2222
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 1: that has done it for such a long, time but

2223
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: other teams have come around doing things more dynamically now

2224
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 1: THEY i mean they STILL i, mean you look at

2225
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: like She rice or She rice should be exploding on

2226
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: your screen even more than he. Is And mahomes is

2227
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:48,679
Speaker 1: still Doing mahomes like. Things but this is a team

2228
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: that just kind of is very. Methodical there's not dynamic stuff.

2229
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: Happening there's not a whole lot of fireworks going. Off

2230
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: when you watch the Chief they're a boring. Watch to

2231
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 1: what we talked about The cowboys being an exciting, Watch

2232
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: The chiefs have become an extremely boring. Watch and that

2233
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of WHEN i Heard Jim nantz

2234
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:13,560
Speaker 1: talking About Julian edelman every two minutes with The patriots

2235
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 1: towards the end of that. Run they kind of remind

2236
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,720
Speaker 1: me maybe not even The. Patriots maybe they're kind of

2237
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: like The San Antonio, spurs where there's still some, talent

2238
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: But Duncan Slash kelsey is finally starting to age. Out

2239
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: Even Chris jones starting age out of a little and

2240
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: he's still a fantastic, player but that defense is Not

2241
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter What spagnolo is. Calling some of that

2242
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 1: talent's just not shining. Through and there's just there's, younger,

2243
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: faster more just progressive offenses right now that are getting

2244
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: the job. Done The chiefs just kind of feel like

2245
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 1: they almost feel like we're watching them in black and

2246
01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: white because we've seen this for so.

2247
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 2: Long i'll tell you, What chiefs may need an, update you,

2248
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: know the man to give us an. Update STEVE disagera,

2249
01:52:55,680 --> 01:52:58,560
Speaker 2: yes final time this evening To, sager my, man what

2250
01:52:58,640 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 2: do you?

2251
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 6: Got and once again THE espn story IS lsu expecting

2252
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 6: to come to terms with Coach Lane kiffen seven year

2253
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 6: deal not yet, signed but quote it would be a

2254
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:12,160
Speaker 6: shock two sources if he didn't sometime Early. Sunday so

2255
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 6: our long national nightmar is.

2256
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 1: Over number.

2257
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 6: One Ohio state won At michigan twenty seven to. Nine

2258
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 6: Ohio state trailed six to nothing in the first, quarter

2259
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 6: which was actually their biggest deficit of the. Year The

2260
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 6: buckeys had lost four straight To, michigan but today The

2261
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,720
Speaker 6: wolverines offense eight, drives nine first. Downs The Big Ten

2262
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 6: championship game Next saturday night number One Ohio state against

2263
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 6: number Two indiana In. Indianapolis The big twelve title game

2264
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 6: will Have Texas tech AGAINST. Byu they each won today

2265
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,680
Speaker 6: to finish their regular, seasons AND i would add That

2266
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 6: Texas tech DESTROYED byu a few weeks ago head to.

2267
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 6: Head number Six oregon won At washington twenty six to.

2268
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 6: Fourteen oregon was four for four on field. Goals eighth

2269
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 6: Ranked oklahomo OVER lsu seventeen thirteen on a fifty eight

2270
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,719
Speaker 6: yard touchdown pass with under five minutes. Left a combined

2271
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 6: sixteen punts in that. Game in, fact LSU's offense nine

2272
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 6: down's nine punts ninth. Ranks Notre dame has the late

2273
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 6: game leading At stanford with eight minutes to go forty

2274
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 6: nine to. Thirteen tenth Ranked alabama blew a seventeen to

2275
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 6: nothing lead late firstaff still won At auburn twenty seven

2276
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 6: to twenty on a touchdown pass with under four minutes,

2277
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 6: left and it came on a fourth and. Two auburn

2278
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 6: fumbled down at The alabama twenty with about thirty seconds to.

2279
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,799
Speaker 6: Go with THE a AND m loss On, Friday georgia

2280
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 6: is in THE sec title game Next saturday In atlanta Against,

2281
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 6: Alabama miami AND usc each One tulane And vanderbilt with.

2282
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 6: Wins vandy trailed At tennessee twenty one to fourteen late

2283
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 6: firstaff still won at forty five twenty. Four Quarterback diego

2284
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 6: Pavia on twenty carries one hundred and sixty five yards

2285
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 6: rushing plus over two sixty five. Passing virginia Beat Virginia.

2286
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 6: Tech The Virginia cavaliers will be in THE acc title

2287
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 6: game Against, duke which started the day six and five.

2288
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 6: Overall that game will be In charlotte number twenty. ONE

2289
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 6: smu will not be. There cal at home BEAT smu

2290
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 6: thirty eight thirty on a last MINUTE. Td THEN smu

2291
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 6: missed a late fifty two yard field goal. Attempt cal

2292
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 6: had led thirty one to fourteen early in the fourth quarter,

2293
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 6: tonight and THEN smu scored touchdowns on three straight drives

2294
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 6: for a brief. Lead louisville shout Out kentucky forty one to.

2295
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 6: Nothing kentucky Coach mark Stoops is signed till twenty thirty.

2296
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 6: One he went five and seven this, year his thirteen

2297
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 6: season At. Kentucky clemson won At South carolina twenty eight

2298
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 6: Fourteen florida Beat Florida state forty to twenty one for The.

2299
01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 6: Gators jaden both thirty eight carries two hundred and sixty

2300
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 6: six yards two. Touchdowns College Football Selection sunday Is december,

2301
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 6: seventh and, guys we haven't mentioned, this but in THE

2302
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 6: fcfs playoffs first round, Today yale came back to win

2303
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 6: forty three forty two At Youngstown state after trailing thirty

2304
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 6: five to seven in the third. Quarter this is the

2305
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 6: first year that members of The Ivy league are eligible

2306
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,879
Speaker 6: FOR fcs. Playoffs yale will travel to number Two Montana

2307
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 6: state Next. Saturday villanova beat Up harvard fifty two to.

2308
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 6: Seven wins For South, Dakota South Dakota state And North

2309
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 6: Dakota number. One North dakota s had a first round

2310
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 6: buy back to. You thank you very, Much steve De

2311
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 6: segar To sega of a great. Evening, no you'll be

2312
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 6: back with the guys On. Sunday we have one segment.

2313
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 6: Left Erin Torris Jason martin taking me up till two.

2314
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 6: Am Eastern Fox sports Forty welcome, back, Everybody Fox Sports

2315
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 6: radio Eron Torris Jason. Martin we are broadcasting live from

2316
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 6: The Fox Sports Radio studios here at one fifty Am.

2317
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:30,040
Speaker 6: Eastern Bernie fratt over The Bernie Fratto show will follow.

2318
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 2: Us bernie good old. FASHIONED i don't know if you

2319
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: could call him A michigan. Man he worked In, michigan

2320
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: but he's an unbiased. Journalist he'll have plenty on the.

2321
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 2: Game the college Football playoff Picture week thirteen of THE.

2322
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 2: Nfl let's actually get to, That jay mart really. Quick

2323
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 2: you know four games in the. Books you, Know, Chiefs

2324
01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: cowboys are in the, Books Eagles, bears which obviously became

2325
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 2: a very interesting games in the. Books not a ton

2326
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,919
Speaker 2: on The Sunday slate in terms of super intriguing. Matchups

2327
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 2: one that kind of stands out to. Me first of,

2328
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 2: All buffalo And pittsburgh both teams pseudo.

2329
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 3: REELING i just.

2330
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 2: Mentioned if the playoffs started, Today buffalo would be the seven.

2331
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 2: Seed pittsburgh would be THE Afc north champ even though

2332
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 2: they lost four out of. Six any strong opinions on this?

2333
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 3: One Aaron, rodgers by the, way expected back After Mason

2334
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 3: rudolph started last.

2335
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Week, YEAH i, MEAN i think it's gonna be a

2336
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 1: very physical game because to your, point both of them.

2337
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 1: REELING i think they're going to come in there knowing

2338
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: that they both need a. Victory it's gonna be kind of.

2339
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: COLD i just ANTICIPATE i anticipate a very chippy football

2340
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 1: game between those two. TEAMS i don't know IF i

2341
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: have a strong opinion on. IT i, MEAN i think

2342
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: The bills are the better, team But akrosher can be

2343
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of a weird place to. Play on top of,

2344
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: That i'll Take buffalo to win the. GAME i think

2345
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 1: that one will probably be a slobber, knocker.

2346
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:58,360
Speaker 2: All, right the opposite of a slaber. Knocker Minnesota vikings

2347
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 2: at The Seattle. SEAHAWKS i Mean, seattle you know they

2348
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 2: are what they are at this, point. Obviously, look the

2349
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:09,440
Speaker 2: story in this game, is you, Know Sam donald revenge

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Speaker 2: game however you want to call. It BUT jj McCarthy

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Speaker 2: leading The vikings into this game of Course Sam, donald

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01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,320
Speaker 2: the Former Minnesota vikings quarterback that The vikings let go

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Speaker 2: in honor OF jj. McCarthy i don't expect it to

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,680
Speaker 2: be very. COMPETITIVE i don't know where you.

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Speaker 1: Stand, Yeah i'm kind of with you on. That it's

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Speaker 1: kind of fascinating to see more articles being written now

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Speaker 1: about The vikings potentially moving away FROM jj McCarthy after

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Speaker 1: this seante, like think about how fast that has. Happened

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Speaker 1: it's smart people In. MINNESOTA i mean O'Connell knows what

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Speaker 1: he is. Doing this has gone, very very very, poorly

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Speaker 1: and this is one of those moments you got to

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Speaker 1: Think Sam donald's probably going to be licking his chops

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01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: on this. One And Jackson smith And jigbo right now

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Speaker 1: is on a completely different planet than just about everybody

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Speaker 1: else playing football in the, end so could have a

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Speaker 1: big day against That vikings. Defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, NO i agree with pretty much everything that you

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Speaker 3: just said with.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy it's, interesting like there's like some fake Like kevin,

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Speaker 2: O'Connell like he needs to be held in, Response i'm,

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Speaker 2: like come, on, man he's great at what he. Does

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Speaker 2: the organization made a. Mistake whatever should. Mention by the,

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Speaker 2: way before we get off. Air as we get off,

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Speaker 2: air make sure to download today's. SHOW a lot of

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Speaker 2: Coverage Alane, KIFFIN a lot of coverage of the playoff

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Speaker 2: picture as it stands after the final week of the

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Speaker 2: college football. Season you're gonna want to catch it. All

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Speaker 2: today's show right after we get off, air jmar we

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Speaker 2: basically got to get out of, here so anyone who

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Speaker 2: missed it a ton Of Lane kiffin. Talk the expectation

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Speaker 2: is that he will accept THE lsu. Job team meeting

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Speaker 2: set for tomorrow. Morning alabama Beach george beats Out auburn

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Speaker 2: to go to THE Sec championship game as. Well we're

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