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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Did he on suicide Watch?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 2: This as he demands an emergency hearing to walk free.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Did he once out?

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Speaker 4: The disgraced Wrapper makes yet another bid at an early

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Speaker 4: release from jail after thirteen months of detention following a

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Speaker 4: split verdict in his divisive trial.

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Speaker 2: Did he wants out? That's why he's said he wants out.

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Speaker 2: So does every other cellmate, every other inmate on the block.

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Speaker 2: They all want out. Why do they want out? They're

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Speaker 2: in jail. Why are they in jail? Because it's something

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Speaker 2: they did and for which they are convicted. I guess

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Speaker 2: he does want out?

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Speaker 1: What about it?

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Speaker 2: Rob Sheeter? Is he missing that private chef? Is he

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Speaker 2: missing the menions that go out at three am and

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Speaker 2: find him freshly made cheesecake and bring back to him

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Speaker 2: and take it.

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Speaker 1: Back and go here you go, Ddy, here comes.

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Speaker 2: The plane, open the runway.

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Speaker 5: He's dead. In his life, you wouldn't miss that life.

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Speaker 6: He had one of the most extraordinary lives of anybody

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Speaker 6: on this planet.

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Speaker 5: So but he blew it.

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Speaker 2: He broke the law, put him up, Get Combs off

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Speaker 2: the beach eating fresh mango.

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Speaker 1: Please stop the most extraordinary life.

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Speaker 2: See, when I think of extraordinary lives, I think of

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Speaker 2: Mother Teresa, I think of Billy Graham, I think of

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Speaker 2: christ I think of the Pope. I think of all

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Speaker 2: the people that have done good works. What's extraordinary about

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Speaker 2: selling perfume? Help me out here, what's extraordinary? What about

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Speaker 2: all those free coughs, all those black eyes, all those bruises,

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Speaker 2: his victims got, the prostitution charges across state lines.

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Speaker 1: What's extraordinary?

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Speaker 2: I find him extremely ordinary, just like every other pimp

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Speaker 2: in the jailhouse.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I did, point Nancy, And he probably hasn't done

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Speaker 6: anything extraordinary, But there is no doubt the life that

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Speaker 6: he let, the power, the money, the prestige that he

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Speaker 6: once had especialable whether or not he still has that,

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Speaker 6: But that life was a pretty extraordinary life.

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Speaker 1: And the way you say that just gets under my skin.

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Speaker 1: You talk about Combs like he's some icon.

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Speaker 2: The power, the movie, The way you say that, it's

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Speaker 2: just like dirt in my mouth. Did you not see

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Speaker 2: the bruises on those women? Did you not hear the

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Speaker 2: testimony about how one had been with all these sex

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Speaker 2: workers and went in the shower and vomited, and he

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Speaker 2: goes put us a makeup ho and get back out there. Really,

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Speaker 2: that's extraordinary.

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Speaker 6: It is extraordinary. This is not ordinary, Nancy. This is

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Speaker 6: not ordinary behavior. The reason he got away with it

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Speaker 6: for so long was because of his power, his money,

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Speaker 6: and someone He is still getting away with it now.

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Speaker 6: This was not the verdict that a lot of people wanted.

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Speaker 6: I think it's naive to pretend that his power and

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Speaker 6: his money is not a big part of who did

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Speaker 2: Of Diddy is Okay, here's the other thing, the whole

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Speaker 2: thing about suicide watch.

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Speaker 1: Do you really think that Sean comes.

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Speaker 2: I would kill himself because Sean Combs loves Sean Combs

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Speaker 2: more than anybody else in the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, No, I don't buy it at all. If he

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Speaker 6: was going to kill himself, he would have done it already.

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Speaker 6: At the moment, Team Cones, Puffy Sean, whatever you want

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Speaker 6: to call him, he thinks he's winning at the minute.

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Speaker 6: This is not a humble man. From all the sources

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Speaker 6: I've spoken to, is empowered. He feels like he's going

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Speaker 6: to be coming out soon, and he thinks he's going

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Speaker 5: So no, I don't buy the suicide watch at all.

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Speaker 5: If he was going to kill himself, he would have

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just wondering and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: negate the possibility of it being legit. To doctor John

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Speaker 2: Delatory joining me, I need a shrink, Doctor Delatory, renowned

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Speaker 2: a psychologist mediator specializing in forensic psychology.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for us on the outside to look.

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Speaker 2: In, but everything I have seen of Sean Comb's he

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Speaker 2: uses the system. He's gotten off time after time after time.

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Speaker 2: The woman that got shot in the face in the

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Speaker 2: nightclub says, comes shot me, and he was acquitted. Tupac

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Speaker 2: shaker witness says, comes to cut a million dollar.

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Speaker 1: Hit, yet he walked.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just happens over and over again. Parading

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Speaker 2: out his own children to do that birthday video to

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Speaker 2: try to gin up sympathy amongst the jury, bringing in

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Speaker 2: his children, including young impressionable girls, during the testimony about

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Speaker 2: forcing women to have sex with sex workers, drugging them.

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Speaker 2: You're seeing it right now from at Prince JDC on

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Speaker 2: insta using other people, using mules to carry his dope,

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Speaker 2: using women, using the mothers of his children. It just

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Speaker 2: it's nasty. It is not what a narcissist is. And

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Speaker 2: the narcissists to love themselves that much commits suicide.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I'm just a trial warrior. You

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Speaker 1: tell me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think yes, number one, this is the high

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Speaker 7: level of narcissism that we come to expect with individuals

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Speaker 7: with too much power having these kinds of perverted deviancies. Now,

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Speaker 7: when it comes to is someone capable is a narcissist

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Speaker 7: capable of committing suicide? The answer is yes, but under

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Speaker 7: really specific circumstances.

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Speaker 1: I swear.

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Speaker 2: I think he's getting his feet and his legs exfoliated.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, this is the type of person that is not

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Speaker 7: going to commit suicide. He truly believes that the moment

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Speaker 7: private plane, right, all of these people as his servants

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Speaker 7: are gonna be there for him to subjugate themselves to

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Speaker 7: him once again. So is he actually legitimately a high

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Speaker 7: risk to commit suicide? No, And I think that takes

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Speaker 7: away from the individuals who are a high risk to

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Speaker 7: winning because that's all part of the narcissism and power

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Speaker 7: away with it, so that's why he continues to use it.

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Speaker 2: Utter delatory. I've had crime victims commit suicide. Right, victim,

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Speaker 2: she's just gonna live with it anymore. I had a

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Speaker 1: But to see.

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Speaker 2: Somebody pretend to be suicidal and use it to try

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Speaker 2: when real victims suffer real consequences.

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Speaker 7: And that's what gets lost here, right, that there are

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Speaker 7: real people. He victimized, real people, and these people have

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Speaker 7: Diddy here putting on this air of oh my god,

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Speaker 7: my life is so bad because I'm in prison. Well,

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Speaker 7: don't hurt people. If he didn't hurt people, if he

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Speaker 7: this predicament. He made choices, his narcissistic, deviant behavior put

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Speaker 7: he's saying that he's too weak to actually commit.

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Speaker 1: Arid crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Going now to a veteran trial lawyer from the level

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Speaker 2: of firm, Trey Level is joining us and again I

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Speaker 2: can't stress enough. Veteran trial lawyer, Trey, if you could

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Speaker 2: just take off your defense hat at.

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Speaker 1: Just one moment and be real.

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Speaker 2: You and I have both seen inmates work the system right.

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Speaker 2: They work it to a way in a way that

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Speaker 2: benefits them. I remember after my first I was first

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Speaker 2: assigned to the busiest courtroom in the courthouse.

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Speaker 1: In inner city Atlanta. We were on trial every other

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Speaker 1: week for a variety of reasons.

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Speaker 2: I went into my first planning negotiation that judge would

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Speaker 2: I wore a.

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Speaker 1: Cross every day.

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Speaker 2: The next week for playing arrangement, they all came in

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Speaker 1: I'm like, stop, okay.

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Speaker 2: So they were trying to work it to get a

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Speaker 2: better deal out of me. See what I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: Is that what comes is doing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on suicide watch to get better treatment,

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Speaker 1: What is he doing? He's a master manipulator.

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Speaker 6: Tray.

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Speaker 8: Well, they're trying to get some sympathy for him, saying, look,

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Speaker 8: you know he's it's devastating in jail, conditions are horrible.

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Speaker 8: It's on suicide to watch. He's got seven kids and

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Speaker 8: a mom to take care of. He's already suffered. We

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Speaker 8: need to get him out of there now.

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Speaker 5: This is all part of the employ to try.

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Speaker 1: To lovel He knows where babies come from.

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Speaker 2: He's got seven children. Yeah, you have to support them.

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Speaker 1: That was his decision.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Sean Combs knows where babies come from.

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Speaker 8: Level Listen, he's got the opportunity now to really get

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Speaker 8: a lenient sent And what I mean is he beat

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Speaker 8: most of the prosecution on the serious charges. He's looking

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Speaker 8: at two charges to fan station gaging, prostitution, and the

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Speaker 8: fact that he's got no prior convictions. Supposedly he's changed

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Speaker 8: in jail, he's helping people. This is an opportunity that

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Speaker 8: his lawyers are jumping on to get him out.

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Speaker 5: They're going to use everything they can sympathy. He's a

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Speaker 5: changed man.

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Speaker 8: The crime is not that as serious as the others.

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Speaker 8: It's a consensual, non violent crime. Your honor, he can

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Speaker 8: do better outside.

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Speaker 1: Did you say non violent?

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Speaker 2: You know what you really do take the cake. You

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Speaker 2: really do beat all level non violent control room if

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Speaker 2: you don't mind senda his text, the photos of all

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Speaker 2: those bruises women suffered as Sean Combs's hands.

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Speaker 1: And in the meantime, listen to this.

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Speaker 9: Judge Schubermanni and may hear arguments on Comb's desperate motion

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Speaker 9: for a new trial ahead of sentencing. Combs claims freak

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Speaker 9: offs are First Amendment right and that he can't be

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Speaker 9: prosecuted under the Man Act for hiring escorts that he

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Speaker 1: He has dragged us all back to court over and

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Speaker 1: Let me out, I don't deserve to be here.

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Speaker 2: Wake up, comes, look around, You're convicted. This is home,

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Speaker 1: Why else?

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Speaker 10: Because he is literally throwing everything against the wall like

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Speaker 2: At this point, I feel like I'm starring in an

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Speaker 1: He is saying everything he can.

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Speaker 10: First he is a messiah to the prison, inspiring others.

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Speaker 1: Then he might be on suicide watch, but he thinks

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Speaker 11: And by the way, he inspired everybody by selling a

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Speaker 1: He's doing what he can with he can, and to

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Speaker 2: They literally got him out of the more serious offenses.

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Speaker 2: And now instead of being humble, instead of taking his

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Speaker 1: To where he is by being shameless. He now thinks

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Speaker 11: This is a man that for his entire life he

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Speaker 1: And when it comes to a justice system, nothing has changed.

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Speaker 2: but Nice podcast. He's at Robsheeter dot substack dot com

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Speaker 6: Three questions, three answers. Nancy, No, no, no. I never

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Speaker 6: he would never ever hurt himself. Now would he hurt

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Speaker 6: other people to give himself pleasure? We've seen that very clearly.

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Speaker 6: The answer to that is yes. But the suicide watch

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Speaker 6: dare say, maybe work. He has pulled a lot of

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Speaker 1: Have worked out of the hat.

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Speaker 2: I think he's pulling it out of something else, but

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Speaker 2: I can't say it on the air. Linn Shawn joining me,

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Speaker 1: If you look her up, you'll see.

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Speaker 2: Her constantly leading one march after the next in Washington,

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Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw.

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Speaker 2: I have seen the mental and emotional turmoil that sex

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Speaker 1: It affects them for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 2: And I think Sean Combs is trading off other people's

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Speaker 10: Well, of course he is Nancy because this is his

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Speaker 10: playbook first of all, aka dirty Ditty degenerate. You know what,

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Speaker 10: He's like a piece of old gum stuck on the

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Speaker 10: work every single day with victims of sexual exploitation, sexual crimes, rapes. Okay,

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Speaker 10: this is so offensive, you know what. It is so

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Speaker 10: this is a lifelong trauma. Sometimes it doesn't rear it's

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Speaker 1: We've seen this.

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Speaker 10: Over and over again, total total destruction. I find this

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Speaker 1: Doctor Dwayne Hendrix joining us.

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Speaker 2: Former warden at MDC in Brooklyn, Former Senior Warden, US

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Speaker 2: Departmaent of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and president

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Speaker 2: See It? Say It, Sees It, It Goes on and on,

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Speaker 2: Doctor Hendrix, thank you for being with us. Did you

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Speaker 2: tell me that you you don't believe Sean Combs is

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Speaker 12: No, he's not on suicide Watch. What he is? He's

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Speaker 1: We're very delicate and don't like.

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Speaker 12: The food that not that nasty, but or it makes

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Speaker 12: suicide watch, because ultimately, how can he be on constant

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Speaker 2: A minute, So, doctor Dwayne Hendrix, no offense to you

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Speaker 1: Let's see here, Yahoo, blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: They all say he's on suicide watch, but you, doctor

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Hendrix, say you're all wrong.

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Speaker 12: Why I'm saying they're wrong because they are calling it

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Speaker 12: But there's no way that he would be moving in

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Speaker 2: Oh, Dwayne Hendrix, you know, wait, hoot line and sinker man,

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Speaker 13: Well, if somebody's line, I mean either either he's on

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Speaker 12: With hardened inmates. I've never seen a shank in that

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Speaker 12: So all these stories are all they're all made up.

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Speaker 12: But I do believe he's on a two hour watch program.

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Speaker 12: If he's given a year in a day or time

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Speaker 4: Diddy's defense pleased with Judge supermaney and arguing the rapper

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay?

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Speaker 2: Joining me right now is Lauren m conlin, star a

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Speaker 2: pop crime TV on YouTube. Wait just a minute. He

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Speaker 1: Correct Nancy did.

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Speaker 11: He's attorneys are arguing that he should serve no more

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Speaker 11: It's incredibly long. They cite that he has not only

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Speaker 11: And also Nancy he got more than seventy five letters

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Speaker 1: Well, isn't it true that most of those letters.

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Speaker 1: How did you not think of that, Lauren Colin.

443
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Speaker 2: You know, when you look at a witness that you're

444
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Speaker 2: considering putting on the stand or using their letter of recommendation,

445
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: you weigh their veracity, their credibility, What if anything, do

446
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 2: they have to gain or lose based on what they

447
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: tell the court. Almost every one of these people, without exception,

448
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: are living off Sean Combs.

449
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot to lose. They might have

450
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: to go get a job. What about that? Well, you

451
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: could argue that's fair.

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Speaker 11: You could argue Young Miami is technically not living off

453
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Speaker 11: Sean Holmes. Dallas Austin is not living off Sean Holmes. However,

454
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 11: I didn't think those letters were anything spectacular. Dallas Austin's letter,

455
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Speaker 11: I thought it was very lackluster.

456
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Speaker 9: He kind of just choked me, who whoa whoa whoa.

457
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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're the one

458
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Speaker 1: that brought up Young Miami not real name.

459
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Speaker 2: Now, isn't it true that Young Miami accused of transporting

460
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Speaker 2: pink cocaine for Combs?

461
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Speaker 11: That's an allegation. There have been many allegations.

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Speaker 1: She has never been charged for that.

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Speaker 11: But she her letter actually was decent, Nancy.

464
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Speaker 5: I mean she talked.

465
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Speaker 2: About how it put her up, telling me about her

466
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Speaker 2: letter supporting Sean Combs. She is accused of transporting pink

467
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Speaker 2: cocaine for him as a mule.

468
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Speaker 1: Isn't that true? Yes?

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Speaker 11: No, yes, but she has never been charged that.

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Speaker 2: She but but isn't it true that she posted a

471
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Speaker 2: video of herself at a dress fitting for her Met

472
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Speaker 2: Gala appearance with Combs her act and.

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Speaker 11: She does cite that, well, she cited that opened doors

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Speaker 11: for her.

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Speaker 1: Colin, that's a yes. No, dear Colin, Have you ever

476
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Speaker 1: been invited to the Met Gala? Have you?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

478
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Speaker 5: No?

479
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Speaker 1: To cover for press? Yes, I have, but not as

480
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Speaker 1: not as an intending Oh okay, so let me rephrase

481
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Speaker 1: my question.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been invited as a guest at the

483
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Speaker 2: Met Gala? Not one of the fringe on the side

484
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Speaker 2: going hey, hey, hey, question question, are taking a picture?

485
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Speaker 2: I mean one of the people that go up the

486
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: red carpet and post Can we see the galla photos

487
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Speaker 2: of Shawn Comes in his cape?

488
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Speaker 1: Please? Ever have you ever bought the red carpet at

489
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Speaker 1: the met Gala?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 5: No, no I have not.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you think Young Miami got invited

493
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Speaker 2: to the met Gala?

494
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Speaker 1: Think? Think? Think, ye, Well Shawn Comes invited her and

495
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Speaker 1: you're okay.

496
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Speaker 2: So Rob Sheet are joining me, longtime PR guru, former

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Speaker 2: publicist Shawn Combs.

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Speaker 1: There's somebody trying.

499
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Speaker 2: To tell me the Young Miami and everybody else is

500
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Speaker 2: writing these letters, aren't gos.

501
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Speaker 1: You're trying to think of a nice way to say this, aren't.

502
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: They're like ticks sucking the blood out of Shawn Comes

503
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Speaker 2: bake account.

504
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Speaker 1: They're all living off him. Yes, hgwl y.

505
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: Yes, they want him out of jail, They want him

506
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Speaker 2: working again. They want him to push the perfume and

507
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: the clothing and the comeback tour so they can live

508
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: high on the hug. That is not worth a hullabaze

509
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Speaker 2: to me.

510
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Speaker 6: You are right, Nancy, I love Lauren Colin, Hello, my friend, But.

511
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Speaker 5: On this instance, I think we have to disagree.

512
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 6: Everybody around Diddy, pretty much everybody, including family members, are

513
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 6: all there because he pays for everything. Most of them

514
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 6: get a salary from him, they get a monthly fee

515
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 6: from him. All the money comes from Puff. When Puff

516
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 6: can't make money, they can't either. And it's not just

517
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: about money, Nancy. It's a bad power here. Being in

518
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 6: his inner Cirtle gave always hanger ons. That's the world

519
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Speaker 6: word I would use. All these people who hung on

520
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 6: it gave them power that they do not have when

521
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 6: the king is not around. So that's why they want

522
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 6: him all out. They want their old lives back, and

523
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 6: so that's why they are writing these letters saying lovely

524
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 6: things about him. It's interesting nance none of the people

525
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 6: that do not need Puff anymore, the Beyonces, the jay Z's,

526
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 6: the Anna Winters, the Clyde davis Is, people who once

527
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Speaker 6: were his so called.

528
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Speaker 5: Friends, none of those.

529
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 6: People have put a single note, a single letter together.

530
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 6: All these letters are from people who rely on Puff

531
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Speaker 6: and his money.

532
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Speaker 2: Let's just start with Lawanda aka Lawa.

533
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: Lane Lawanda Lala Lane, a close friend of Kim Porter

534
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: who has lived with Sean Combs for four years to

535
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: help raise his children, write the Combs is a shining

536
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: example of black excellence. Lane says she is an awe

537
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Speaker 3: of Combs's success in his business ventures, pointing out that

538
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: he is the first black man to have a fragrance

539
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: line selling nearly a million bottles a week.

540
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that just rub me the wrong way. And

541
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why.

542
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Speaker 2: Because you have money does not mean you are above

543
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Speaker 2: the law. Do you really think, to you, Troy Level,

544
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: you're in the veteran defense attorney that the judge cares

545
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: that Sean Combs has sold a million dollars perfume.

546
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Speaker 8: No judges, he's going to look at at the facts

547
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 8: of the case, conviction, what he was convicted of. He's

548
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 8: going to look at other factors and come up.

549
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: With a sentence.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know what's outside the courtroom they don't

551
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Speaker 8: care about. We're looking at a look at this guy

552
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 8: has even rehabilitated anyway, you know, what have the conditions been, Like?

553
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: What can he do if he does get out.

554
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Speaker 5: It can be positive? And what is the crime is

555
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Speaker 5: convicted of. That's going to be the limitations the judges

556
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Speaker 5: can look at.

557
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Speaker 2: I mean, in my mind, to you, doctor Dwayne Hendrix,

558
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: you're the former warden at MDC. All of that commercial

559
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: success comes has had to me puts an even greater

560
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: burden on him to do the right thing, to work

561
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: with charity, to give money to help people that are

562
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: less powerful or less cunning than he is. I've never

563
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: heard anything about that, and he is claiming the reason

564
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: he should be let out this psalm. Lwanda Lane, who's

565
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: basically living off him, says he has sold a million

566
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: bottles of perfume and that's why he should get out.

567
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: Tell me something good. Tell me about volunteer work. Tell

568
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: me about what a great dad you are, not how

569
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: you were off in some hotel having a free cough

570
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: while your children were at home with the babysitter. I mean,

571
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: that is what would matter to me, and I.

572
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Speaker 1: Hardly agree with you, Nancy.

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Speaker 12: First of all, inmates aren't allowed when they shouldn't be

574
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Speaker 12: allowed to run a business while they're behind bars. And

575
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 12: if he was truly humble, he would say, I've been

576
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Speaker 12: convicted of these crimes. I understand that I need to

577
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Speaker 12: make some changes in my life, and I'm going to

578
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 12: be humble and jud whatever you see fit to sentence me.

579
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 12: I will accept though. I will accept that sentence, and

580
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 12: I will use this time to make myself better so

581
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Speaker 12: that way when I get out, I'm a better man,

582
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 12: I'm a better father, and I'm going to do community

583
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Speaker 12: work to make sure that there is no other Sean

584
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Speaker 12: Colmbs after me other than the good parts of myself.

585
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 12: But everything is about complaining. It's about the foods, about

586
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 12: somebody's putting something in the food, is complaining about being

587
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 12: on suicide watch, and this, that and the other. At

588
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 12: the end of the day, he needs to humble himself,

589
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 12: accept whatever sentence has becomes his way, and at that point,

590
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 12: when he gets his release date, he'll know what he

591
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 12: needs to do to better himself so he can be

592
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 12: a better father, a better citizen, and so that others

593
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Speaker 12: who aspire to live the life that he's lived can

594
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Speaker 12: live it within a way in a framework that doesn't

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Speaker 12: cause damage and harm, because the real victims here are

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Speaker 12: the people that he harmed, his staff and ultimately his

597
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 12: children as well. So we'll see, we'll see next Friday

598
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Speaker 12: what shakes out.

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Speaker 1: At this hour.

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Speaker 2: Sean Comes aka Diddy, aka Puffy, aka Puff aka Puff Daddy,

601
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Speaker 2: most recently aka Love says he's on suicide Watch and

602
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Speaker 2: he's sick of jell food and therefore he should walk

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Speaker 2: free on time served.

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 2: We are hearing about how Seawan comes is a changed man. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why can't he be a changed man and do his

607
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Speaker 2: jail time.

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Speaker 1: I want you to watch this shooter.

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Speaker 2: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in

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Speaker 2: your life.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to do that.

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00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 8: I was, I mean, I had robbed bottom, but.

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Speaker 1: I made no excuses.

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00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: My behavior you on that video is inexcusable.

615
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 6: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.

616
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Disgusted.

617
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 8: I was disgusted then when I did it, I'm disgusting now.

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Speaker 12: And went in.

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Speaker 1: I sought out professional help.

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Speaker 5: And of going to therapy, we're going to rehab.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Second verse same as the first. Didn't he just

622
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Speaker 1: say that he was so.

623
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Speaker 2: Disgusted at beating.

624
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Cassie Ventira when it was called on video that he

625
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: did it again. He did it again and again and again.

626
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: He was so disgusting with himself out.

627
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: That he kept having freak off after freak off after

628
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Speaker 2: freak off, one civil suit after the next after the next.

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Speaker 2: A lady is saying that were drugged and rape at

630
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Speaker 2: his freak cough parties. But he just kept doing it

631
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Speaker 2: what out of self loathing? I don't think so. And

632
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 2: now he's trying the same old shoe on the other foot,

633
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: same thing.

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Speaker 6: You're right, Nancy, he's doing this again, arguably because he

635
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 6: thinks it works. He thinks this will get him off.

636
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 6: And I'm afraid to say, Nancy, in night, we don't know.

637
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 6: We've already been very disappointed with one of these verdicts,

638
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 6: and so I'm hoping we're not disappointed again. It's an

639
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 6: incredibly smart Marketer pr guy, and he knows that this

640
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 6: sort of stuff works. He's done it before, Nancy. He's

641
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: doing it a day, and so that's why we're seeing this.

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00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 6: I don't think he's a changed man. I think he's

643
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Speaker 6: a court man. This is a man who has been

644
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 6: caught and suddenly now suddenly he changes.

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Speaker 5: We know better than you know.

646
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Speaker 2: And another thing, they're not mutually exclusive to you, Trey Lovell.

647
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 2: You've getting plenty of guys out of jail on more

648
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: serious accounts than this. But isn't it true you can

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Speaker 2: be a changed person while you're in jail doing your

650
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: hard time. Right, you don't have to get out and

651
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 2: get back at the met gala to be a changed man.

652
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: And how many times is he going to use the

653
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: same old thing. I'm sorry, I'm a change man. I

654
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 2: found the Lord, no offense Lord, And how many times

655
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: are people going to believe it? You think this judge

656
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: hasn't heard this song and dance before from every inmate

657
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Speaker 2: that comes in front of him.

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00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 7: No, you're absolutely right.

659
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Speaker 8: The judge is going to take this with the.

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Speaker 7: Grain of salt.

661
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Speaker 8: But these are the things that he has to establish

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Speaker 8: take advantage of possibly getting a lenient sentence.

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Speaker 5: You know the fact that.

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Speaker 8: He is a changed man, as shown by being incarcerated

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Speaker 8: with what has he done. He selfed other inmates, he

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Speaker 8: stopped drinking. He now wants to educate people and he

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Speaker 8: will continue.

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Speaker 5: That on board. Now whether or not we believe that.

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Speaker 8: And it's very convenient to say that.

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Speaker 5: That's what he's got to say.

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Speaker 8: That's what the judge has to has to hold his

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Speaker 8: hands on to try to get the sense of that.

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Speaker 2: He wants.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: As we go to air tonight, Seawn comes claiming he

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Speaker 2: can't wait for sentencing. He wants an emergency hearing right

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Speaker 2: now that he claims he is on suicide watch and

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Speaker 2: he doesn't like the food.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you what he doesn't like.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't like having people at his beck and call,

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Speaker 2: and his.

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Speaker 1: Life is different. For instance, speaking of the food, listen.

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Speaker 12: To be Mango too with has your back round.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want it. I wanted that you hear me,

685
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Speaker 1: will allow myself to not have mingo?

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Speaker 2: No? I mean really, that's from Sean Combs did his instagram. Okay,

687
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Speaker 2: there you go, shooter. He demands his fresh.

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Speaker 1: Mango and he ain't getting it. He wants out of jail.

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Speaker 1: Got me up.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's thee I love it when you do that.

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. He wants his life back.

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Speaker 6: Who wouldn't want that life of Diddy, that life of

693
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: a superstar. He's demanding, he knows what he wants. He's

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Speaker 6: not getting it, and he's throwing a little temper tantrum.

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Speaker 6: But I should should point out we're not gonna want

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Speaker 6: to hear it.

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Speaker 5: It often works for him, Nancy.

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Speaker 6: This is a man who has not changed his because

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00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 6: he has been rewarded for bad behavior. The more ridiculous

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Speaker 6: the videos are that he has posted in the back past,

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Speaker 6: the more likes he gets the more people he gets

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Speaker 6: talking about him. So I think it's unrealistic to expect

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Speaker 6: this man to change now or ever.

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Speaker 1: Joining me Lauren Carmen, star of Pup Crime TV. Lauren.

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Speaker 2: He's also climbing speaking of fresh mango. Did the food's

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Speaker 2: really bad at MDC?

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Speaker 5: Yes, the food is awful.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't like it.

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Speaker 11: At one point, there were reports that he was on

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Speaker 11: some kind of food strike. He's also said there are

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Speaker 11: maggots everywhere. I mean, look, what do you expect. You

712
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Speaker 11: are in federal jail in Brooklyn, New York. It's not

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Speaker 11: going to be the four seasons.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Let's take that with the former warden at the MDC,

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Speaker 2: doctor Dwayne Hendrix.

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Speaker 1: Okay, MDC, he doesn't like the food.

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Speaker 12: Goots, Look, were you trying to feed three thousand people

719
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Speaker 12: the same meal? The taste is not going to be

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Speaker 12: the same, the quality is not going to be the same.

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Speaker 12: And at the end of the day, it's jail. You know,

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Speaker 12: the food is supposed to.

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Speaker 1: Be paddleable and edible.

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Speaker 12: An executive staff member is charged with eating one sampling

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Speaker 12: one meal every single day to make sure it's edible.

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Speaker 12: It's not going to be five star. It's not going

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Speaker 12: to be some taste like a chef that he's had

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Speaker 12: over over the years. It's not going to taste like that.

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Speaker 12: So that's unfortunate. But that's that's jail, and if.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to, that's why you don't have free

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Speaker 2: coughs with unconscious women, and that's why you don't transport

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Speaker 2: sex workers across state lines, which is a crime. So

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Speaker 2: you don't have to eat jail food. Okay, hold on,

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Speaker 2: does this ring a bell to you? Lunch menu scrambled eggs,

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Speaker 2: chicken wraps, baked chicken, beef, tacos, it goes on and on.

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Speaker 1: That sounds pretty good to me.

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Speaker 2: Rice green means dinner chili max, Salisbury steak who I

738
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Speaker 2: likes in Salisbury steak tonight.

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Speaker 1: But I don't have that.

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Speaker 2: I have to cook chicken fried rice weekends, comfort food, cheese, pets, spinach.

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Speaker 1: What that doesn't sound bad to me? What about it? Hendricks?

742
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Speaker 12: It's again, if that's the national menu, that's what all

743
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Speaker 12: inmates eat in federal prison all across the country. Again,

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Speaker 12: it's not the best quality, No, it tastes. It probably

745
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Speaker 12: tastes a little less than what the schoolhouse square pizza.

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Speaker 1: We were getting public school years ago.

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Speaker 12: But that's just the way it is. Like you just said, Nancy,

748
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Speaker 12: if you don't want to eat prison food, don't do

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Speaker 12: prison things to get you there to be in the

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Speaker 12: situation that you're.

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Speaker 2: In prison things, prison things. I like the way you

752
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: said that. That sounds like something Trey Lovell would say.

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Speaker 2: Prison things. You mean rape and transporting sex workers across

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Speaker 2: state lines. Those prison things another thing. Another argument the

755
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Speaker 2: defenses making is that he really didn't transport sex workers

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Speaker 2: across state line to have sex with them, because most

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Speaker 2: of the time he sat on the size wearing a

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Speaker 2: burka and didn't actually have sex with the women himself.

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Speaker 2: And I think we all know why he stayed under

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Speaker 2: a burka. But that said, uh to you, Rob Shooter,

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Speaker 2: Seawn Holmes doesn't wait to chill food, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't want walk. We really suck it up, man, suck

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Speaker 1: it up.

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Speaker 6: You're asking a man who has not had to suck

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Speaker 6: it up for decades to suck it up.

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Speaker 5: He's not changing, Nancy. This is who he is.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna complain, he's gonna be, he's gonna moon, he's

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Speaker 6: gonna whine.

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Speaker 5: And I fear you might even win. If you don't

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Speaker 5: want to.

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Speaker 1: Eat, stop it. Go wash your mouth out with soap.

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Speaker 1: Young man.

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Speaker 2: If the judge falls for this, you know what who's

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00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: not gonna fall for is Lynn Shaw? Shaun Holmes did

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Speaker 2: he wants to another chance?

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Speaker 1: But wait a minute, listen to this, Slim. Shall everybody

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00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: get ready for a nuclear Blastralen Shaw? What's this islim?

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Speaker 1: I watched them.

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Speaker 14: Both fight their guns. I watched them. I got hit

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Speaker 14: right here in my nose, in between my eyes, which

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Speaker 14: means I'm facing directly at you the same way you're

782
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Speaker 14: sure that I have on a green shirt.

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Speaker 1: I'm certain that he shot me.

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Speaker 14: Now was he aiming at me? Was I the object

785
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Speaker 14: of his fire? Absolutely not. I should not have been,

786
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Speaker 14: because I didn't do anything to him.

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Speaker 2: From the art of dialogue, and that is a shooting

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Speaker 2: victim at the nightclub identifying Sean Combs as shooting carbit.

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Speaker 1: Guess what, he walked.

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Speaker 2: Free and decided to be a changed man. Wait a minute, Yeah,

791
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Speaker 2: there's another case.

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Speaker 1: Listen. Dwayne Keathy D.

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Speaker 15: Davis claims credit for Tupac's murder on bet And in

794
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Speaker 15: his memoir he says, Puffy Combs one at night and

795
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Speaker 15: Tupac's heads after their disc track hit them up. When

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Speaker 15: Davis offers to carry out the hits, Combs agrees to

797
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Speaker 15: pay him one million dollars. According to Davis, Eric zip Martin,

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Speaker 15: a New York drug dealer, suggests they have the perfect

799
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Speaker 15: opportunity to carry out Puffy's hit and even provides the gun. Davis, Anderson,

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Speaker 15: Terrence Brown, and DeAndre Smith stake out the club where

801
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Speaker 15: Shakur is performing, but Tupac's a no show and the

802
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Speaker 15: Crips abandoned the plan. Driving down the strip, they spaw

803
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Speaker 15: Night and Tupac stopped in traffic, Brown flips a U

804
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Speaker 15: turn in their white Cadillac. Davis passes Anderson the gun,

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Speaker 15: and Anderson leans over Smith to shoot Tupac.

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Speaker 5: He ever involved in any of these conversations, as.

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Speaker 1: It's just.

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Speaker 2: This wait a testimony that Sean Combs ordered a million

809
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Speaker 2: dollar hit on Tcheapac Shakar, and once again, there he

810
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Speaker 2: is out of jail.

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Speaker 1: How many chances does one guy get?

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Speaker 16: I don't care how many millions of bottles of perfume

813
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 16: he's sold. Why are we talking about Dirty Diddy and

814
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Speaker 16: his bottles of perfume? Because those days are over because

815
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Speaker 16: I predict I don't care when he gets.

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Speaker 1: Out, and he probably will.

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Speaker 10: That's the reality of what's going on here with the

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00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 10: justice system. He's not going to be welcomed back, in

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Speaker 10: my opinion, into his world of vodkas and perfumes and

820
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Speaker 10: clothing lines and.

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Speaker 1: Things like that.

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Speaker 10: But I want to remind everybody about this Mango man.

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Speaker 10: We have true victims survivors of his for decades of

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Speaker 10: his his abuse.

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Speaker 1: So he's gotten away with and you know what, they're

826
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Speaker 1: right now shaking in their boots. They're scared. They're scared

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Speaker 1: because they know that he seeks, you know, retribution. They're scared.

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Speaker 10: They don't have the power and the money to fight him.

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Speaker 10: And I guarantee, I'm in New York City. There's been

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Speaker 10: a lot over the decades about him simmering underneath. We

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Speaker 10: have worked with victims that worked with him years ago

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Speaker 10: through the decades as well, who.

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Speaker 1: Reported things to us.

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Speaker 10: Do I have proof, No, they reported things to us

835
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Speaker 10: at the Warriors, And you know what, I'm worried about them.

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Speaker 10: I'm not worried about him and his pretend maggots in

837
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Speaker 10: his food. And this is Zaka, one of four kids

838
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 10: in America go to beout hungary every night. So you

839
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Speaker 10: know what, I'm worried about these victims, probably in the thousand,

840
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Speaker 10: if the numbers were truly to be told, from all

841
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 10: of his freak offs and abuses over the years as

842
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 10: he marched around, strutted around town and around the world.

843
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 10: And he's a global I don't know what entrepreneur. I'm

844
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Speaker 10: worried about the people. We're not talking about them. Who's

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Speaker 10: giving them the services, the psychological services they need. They're trauma.

846
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Speaker 10: I'm going to keep saying the word trauma. People do

847
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 10: not understand trauma, what it is and what he has done.

848
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 10: And shame on him. Trauma for his victims. He's got

849
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Speaker 10: these daughters, you can't tell me in the back of

850
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 10: their minds somehow, and as they get older, the trauma

851
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 10: that's going to come out. This is their father and

852
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 10: things are on video, complete trauma all around. He's got

853
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 10: a mother. Where's the shame in this guy? We have

854
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 10: never seen him humble once? And you know what, money

855
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 10: talks and crime walks, and now off Diddy and onto

856
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 10: a real American hero.

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Speaker 2: Officer Alex Roberts Houston p Day killed in the line

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Speaker 2: of duty, leaving behind grieving parent American Hero officer Alex Roberts,

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,