WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Can Dak Win a Title? 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:04.480 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.400 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.760 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:21.120 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:28.240 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys, 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.840 welcome to another episode of the Break. We don't have 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.159 We do not have David Hellman here today, Yeah, but 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.920 we have Bryan brought us with a stuffy nose. He 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.640 said that he wanted to be on radio today, so 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.800 he's here filling in for Dave, who took his place 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:48.280 yesterday on his show. Yes, ma'am, so welcome to thank 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.600 your old show. I appreciate that this going to be 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.040 an old school break, old old school back in the day. Yeah, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:55.440 when it was the three of us? Were you on 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.200 the show back now? No? I didn't think so it 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.680 was just the three of us, right? Or do we 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.680 have somebody else with us? I think I would look 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.640 a little older. What are you trying to say about it? 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.760 I'm just saying, okay, all right, how are you guys 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.920 doing good? Good? Good? All right, Well, a lot of 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.840 things have happened since we last met. There was a 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.560 Super Bowl that went down, there was a change in 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.600 LC well, we got the hiring of Kellen Moore. That's 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.080 basically all news right now. But let's try to figure 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.080 out a way to correlate this to the Super Bowl 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.319 and what happened. A lot of people try to tie 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:32.160 in what has been going on with Sean McVey him 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.000 being a young guy kind of renewing and turning things 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.720 around for the Rams and Kellen Moore. Some of the 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:43.160 things that that you've heard from people such as Dak Prascott, 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:46.560 Jerry Jones, they seem to speak of him very very well. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.960 They say he's a very smart guy, has some creativity 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:56.320 in him. What are your expectations from this change and 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.680 seeing what a young guy like McVeigh has been able 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.800 to do. You're taking them to the Super Bowl. But 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.040 at the end of the day, we saw what happened 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.520 in the score. They were playing against the Patriots, who 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.600 still came out with the win. But like you mentioned earlier, Nick, 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.079 when when I saw you out in the hallway, they 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:17.040 only score how many points? Yeah, they scored three. Sean 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.480 mcvay's done a great job, obviously, and he is a 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.760 great coach. And you know, there's a lot of guys 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.320 in the world that look like Julian ed Edelman and 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.160 Cole Beasley, but there's only a few of them that 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.520 actually do those jobs. And so there's a lot of 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.799 young coaches who are you know, innovative and all that, 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.919 and that they're not all gonna be like Sean McVay. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:35.520 And maybe Kellen Moore is going to be like that. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.560 Maybe he's not. But you know, old school always doesn't 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:41.519 always win, but it does. And when when you're when 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.400 Bill belichicks is yea, And I mean I said this before. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.280 I mean the Cowboys score and if they get to 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.639 the Super Bowl, I mean, if he could shut down 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.240 the Rams, he would have shut down this offense in 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.799 my opinion. So you know, I mean this whole like 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.040 I only scored three. Good luck within anybody scoring against 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.160 that the way that he coached it. Yeah, they're a 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.360 team that this game was one in preparation. This game 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:12.600 was won in the weeks off before you know, there's 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:17.440 McVeigh is a big admire of Bill Belichick. A matter 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:19.880 of fact, they text each other. You know, Bill's always 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.560 kind of I had a feeling that Bill Belichick knew 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.600 that he was going to play Sean McVeagh. I had 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.880 a feeling that he, you know, as the season wore on, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.800 he's probably thinking, this is the one team I'm gonna 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.639 have to prepare for, this is the one offense I'm 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.000 gonna have to get ready for. And what he was 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.920 able to do was neutralize things that McVeigh does really well. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.920 And that's where I think that if you talk about 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:48.640 game plans, mcveigh's game plan didn't clearly didn't match what 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.720 New England had. New England had an idea of, Okay, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.240 this is how we're going to attack him. If he's 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.160 going to use this communication device and talk to his 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.760 quarterback fifteen seconds before to kind of we're not gonna 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.200 show him this. We're not gonna show him affront. We're 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.200 gonna show him a six two front. We're gonna play 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.720 a goal line front the whole day, and we're gonna 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.120 see that he and they made They made Jared Golf 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.440 have to win that game, throwing the football on his own, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.200 on his own. They they played outstanding coverage, They were 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.520 able to get, you know, the rams the line had 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.400 done a great job with protection all year long until 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.720 this game. You know, they really this was a game 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.440 that they really struggled, and they struggled because the coverage 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:33.200 and they confused the quarterback. This game again was one 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.680 This game was won the week before the Super Bowl 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.719 in preparation, like they were like videotape and practice or 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.000 something like that something, honestly, And I want to just 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.520 clarify for fans out there listening, Yeah, that's happened when 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.840 the rams and pages, Yeah, that happens. That happened. Maybe 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.280 not just when the rams. Maybe we need to think 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.000 about it anyway from what from what I just want 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:53.680 to clarify for fans that may not have heard what 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.159 Brian was talking about. Was essentially there was an article 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.640 that came out after the Super Bowl that said that 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.200 the pay Riots were aware of the fact that Sean 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:06.240 McVay would kind of help through the headset, would kind 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.040 of help his quarterback and this is illegal, would help 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.360 his quarterback by telling him he'd see how the defense 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:12.719 was lining up, and then he would give him here's 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.400 what we're gonna do, and here's what you need to 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.120 be paying attention to and what you need to know 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:20.200 about that is fifteen seconds before the play clock ends 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.760 is when communication gets gets cut off. Now, what the 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.120 Patriots did, supposedly was they ran into each each situation 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.440 with two plays. They would show one thing before fifteen 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:34.280 seconds and then they show something else after fifteen seconds. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:38.440 And that changed what And now your quarterback golf is 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.240 having to adjust on the fly, which is not what 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.320 he was having to do most of the season. Now 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.400 here's the interesting part about that. The interesting part about 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.119 that is I read an article back during the season, 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.920 this was like late December where it talked about how 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.760 other teams during the month of December had started to 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.800 figure that out as well. The Patriots weren't the first 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.160 to do this right, and that was the reason why, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.200 at least in this article saying is why they struggled 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.680 offensively in the abouth of December. Now here we go 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.560 the other thing to notice, the y you one tied 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.640 us back to the Cowboys. There was one outlier in 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.919 that time in December throughout the playoffs, and that was 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:18.159 the game against the Cowboys. And notoriously, notoriously, what they 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.159 say publicly here is we do what we do. We 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.400 don't worry about the opponent. Right. That would suggest to 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.040 me that maybe they didn't go into the game saying 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.240 we're gonna do the same thing, and it allowed the 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:31.599 Rams that they played right into the what the Rams 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.880 wanted to do as opposed to the Patriots and what 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.960 they did in the Super Bowl, what they did exactly 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.200 the opposite. And they were so successful. You know when 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.520 Marion Elli was coaching with the Buccaneers and they were 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.640 really good with that, Derek Brooks and Warren Sapp and 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.640 all that. And you can have Hall of Fame type players, 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.120 you can do what you do. I mean, you can 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:48.760 do that. I'm sure the eighty five Bears did what 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:51.880 they did, absolutely, but the Patriots don't have those guys. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.000 But they did what what what will work? And I 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.400 think that's a it's a stubbornness that we've talked about 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.119 a lot offense and defense. We're just gonna run over them. Well, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.640 Joe Looney's not going to run over you. You have 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.360 to do it differently, and so hopefully you can learn 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.640 that the Cowboys and other teams can learn from that. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.280 This is where the Patriots are different than everybody else's. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.040 They have a game plan each week to whoever they're playing, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.400 they figure out who they want to stop. When they 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.040 played Jason Witton, you know, several years ago, they didn't 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.880 worry about Dez Bryant. They worried about Jason Witton. And 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.040 that's where Belichick is so much different than a lot 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.880 of other coaches. He comes in with a plan each week. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.680 They their guys not only have to be smart, but 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:29.920 they have to be able to play on the fly. 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:32.160 Like Derek was talking about, you have to be able 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.920 to say, Okay, if you're gonna give us eleven personnel, 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.800 like what the Rams are doing with the three wide 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.720 receivers the whole game, Okay, we'll match you, but this 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:43.280 is how we're going to match it. And so by 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.720 giving the different looks and being able to play a 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.800 different defense every week, then you know, it's like the 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.200 Rams are talking about, Hey, we knew what they were doing. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.680 They line three guys up on one side, they line 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.120 an end up over here, They're going to run the 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.280 twist to this side. We knew it. We knew what 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.440 was going on. That's scouting. Belichick doesn't let you do that. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:03.920 I guarantee you when I when we get ready to 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:07.000 play New England next year, I will watch the Patriots, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.200 and it won't be the same defense. Whatever I say 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:14.000 during that week, don't even listen because whoever they're playing, whoever, 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.280 whoever they're playing before the Cowboys, and whoever they play 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:20.400 after the Cowboys will have a different front. And that's coaching. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.840 And I'm sure everybody out there right now is going, 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.440 why can't we do that? And that's a good question. 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.800 Why can't we do that? The interesting part about that, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.600 and Nick, you and I had this conversation earlier this 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.080 week when we were talking about Brady versus Belichick. You 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.160 know that whole discussion. My thought was, if you look 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.800 at how they do that and the fact that how 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.200 many how many coaches have left that New England system 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.880 and nobody's been able to replicate this around the NFL. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.760 There's something that that man knows how to do as 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.040 a coach that is just special. It is just special, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.000 and nobody else has been able to do it. They 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.200 know what he's doing because all those coaches have left 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.320 and been head coaches, none of them have been able 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.640 to replicate it. So if you want to talk about, 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.440 you know, Brady versus Belichick, in my opinion, look at 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.800 the delta between Brady and the next coach, and then 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.840 Belichick and the next coach Ian Brady and the next quarterback, 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:15.040 and Belichick and the next coach. The difference between Belichick 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.839 and the next coach is vast. It's way bigger than say, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.240 you know, you you drow the quarterback Brees or Rogers, 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:26.040 like the delta between them and Bree and and and Brady. 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.880 I don't think it's huge. I think it's huge when 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.280 you talk about coach and not. That's the difference right 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.280 now with what the Patriots are doing versus what every 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.320 other team then. And that's also a combination. I mean, 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.320 it's the continue you put that together right too, and 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.360 the continuity that they've had and all that. I mean, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.520 I don't think it's a coincidence that they lost to 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.520 the Lions, they lost to the Titans this year of 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.000 the Patriots, both of them pretty convincingly. And you look 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.400 at the coaches of those teams came from the Patriots. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.720 Both came from well the general manager of the Lions too, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.960 and the head coaches, you know obviously. Yeah, so they 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:56.719 had that Titans. They can be anybody else, but they 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.720 couldn't be anybody else. Yeah, Yeah, No, if you have 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.160 an understanding. And that's what again makes I think makes 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.160 Belichick so unique, like you're talking about Derek, is his 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.080 ability to say, you know what, and I think he 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.440 goes all the way back to when he was with 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:12.120 Parcels and that he had so many dynamic players on 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.640 defense that he was able to morph into a lot 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:18.080 of different fronts and a lot of different schemes in order. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.960 And that's where they look at themselves and say, hey, listen, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.439 this guy fits our scheme. This way. He could be 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.640 he could be a nickel tackle, he could be a 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.760 rush in, he could be a stand up linebacker if 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.080 he has to. They get players that could play a 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.640 lot of different ways, and that way it allows them 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.680 to have the flexibility in their schemes to beat you 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.520 every week with a difference because even though the players 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.480 aren't great players, versatile players versatile players, versatility is more 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:46.600 important than versatility and smarts is more important. Look at mccordy, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.719 the play that he made on the busted coverage down 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.960 the middle of the field. That's just playing with awareness. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.600 That's not something to Bill Belichick. That's Belichick knowing that 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.439 that kid right there could play for me. Because he's smart. 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:01.320 The Broncos they play a three four right, and the 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.920 Redskins play a three four right, and Cowboys play a 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:07.679 four to three and the Patriots play what right. Yeah, 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.000 that's the point of everything. You can't really you know. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.760 And it's the same with Parcels and now gets Belichick's 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.480 the same way. When Parcels was here, we was like, well, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.959 is he a defensive coach or is he offensive coach? 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:20.200 Because he kind of sounds like an offensive coach, and 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.720 I Belichick's kind of the same way, you know. I mean, yeah, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:26.120 he was defensive guy for the Giants, but he's kind 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.960 of now and you know, an offensive coach. So the 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.840 coaches are the same as the players. They can play 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.520 three four or four three and as a linebacker, you 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.640 can play safety. Yeah you gave a guy two weeks 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:39.520 to prepare for you. Yeah, I guarantee that it's really 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.000 a guy like that. Well, the same thing if you 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.280 look down with college football, with what's going on. The 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:47.840 Alabama's kryptonite now is Clemson. Clemson's figured out. Okay, if 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.040 we have a quarterback that can do this, this gives 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:52.800 them problems. And you know that's where you have to 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.000 kind of you gotta win the ACC and then you 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.079 got to go and win these playoff games. But I'll 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.200 say this about saving two, like and Clemson really was 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.400 no shot to Alabama when you gave Saban three to 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.680 four weeks and in that first game, because you remember 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.920 that they've beat him and it's been close those championship games. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.319 But two years ago it was the first game. Yeah, 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.359 which which you get it like a month, and Saban's 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.120 really good with that, just like he was in this 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.600 game against Oklahoma. But you know, maybe the one week 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.800 is a little different. Saban, I think is like Belijick. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.800 You give him that long and I guarantee you the 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.600 Pages will have a bye week before Dallas, guaranteeing it 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.600 right now, bye week Dallas in October. Well you might 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.640 catch him as long as it's in October. I'm okay. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.600 I think there's only two because it's someone to go 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.800 in December. Now get the league. The league very well 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.959 can make us go play that thirsty night game to 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.920 start the year. Yeah, the stuff is gonna be Kansas 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.600 City on No. No, there's only it's been reported. Sorry, 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.280 it's been reports. Scherene Williams came in Mother Football came 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.640 in and said, no, it's Bears, Bears and Packers. One 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.480 hundred years Bears, Packers. They're not going to have the 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.040 Super Bowls. You're not play going with the Bears and 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.920 the Packers for to celebrate a hundred years of football. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.760 They're gonna go with Bears and Packers. Hey, one hundred 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:04.800 years is important. I guess really doesn't. Sunday Nights Writs 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.640 and Chiefs like that. We see. That's that's why I thought. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:11.360 Because the only two home games the Patriots Habiants playoff 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.200 teams or Kansas City in Dallas. Yeah, so that's why 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.560 I figured. I figured Kansas City. That's like they like 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.599 to match up those previous year playoff games. That was 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:21.920 a game that's worth repeating. They didn't want to see 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.440 that they did that. Did they do that two years ago? 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.640 Kansas City went up there one? Yeah, it was two 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.720 years ago. I would it's the only time a Thursday 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.439 night team has ever won. I would I would repeat 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.400 that one. Well, I know that boys on a Wednesday 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.520 night game. Yeah, remember that, that's true. That was the 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.800 famous Yeah brought us first game with this was that 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.160 first Oh yeah, I just m f the fans. It 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.920 was a yd But either way, it was good. I 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.440 was all over those giant fans. But but you know, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.880 somebody brought this to a tense You talking about putting 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.960 up a fight Fox. Um. You know you think the 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.080 Cowboys and Patriots, and then that's a scheduled game for Fox, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:58.960 who they don't get the Patriots a lot. Yeah, they're 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.400 gonna be putting up a fight to lose that one. Yeah, So, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.480 which I don't think you should. I think that's the 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.760 kind of game that's gonna have a lot of excitement 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.360 later in the season. You don't need to waste that 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.560 on an opening There are other matchups you can do 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.440 an opening night when you're gonna get everybody to watch 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.800 anyway because it's opening night, right, But yeah, I think 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.480 you say that one for a little later. You make 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.800 that a Sunday night football game. To the point we're 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.040 making is is you know you don't think he gives 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.120 he gives us a crap about the fourth preseason game, 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.120 probably not even the third preseason game. He's going to 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.600 be focused on Dallas all years, So you don't want 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.080 that week one. No, Yeah, that's true. All right, let's 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:35.880 take it back to Kellen Moore. And don't you You 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.760 did a great Let's get back there, and I'll be 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.360 the first one to say, you know, I've changed my 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.800 tune in this whole thing. I had a real issue 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.920 with it last week before it was official, but then 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.880 now I'm trying to be more open mind the bar 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:53.240 it just because there are certain people that I mean, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.440 you deserve a chance and you never know how they 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.120 may surprise you, right, And then I try to think 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:02.360 and go back to myself, my own experiences in life, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.000 and you know, had I not been given a chance, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.440 I wouldn't be anywhere, right, And I've been able to 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:11.680 overcome obstacles and there's still work that needs to be done, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.080 an improvement. But at the end of the day, everyone 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.000 deserves a chance, like, let's go for it. But are 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.400 you guys expecting kell And to be able to make 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:24.640 an immediate impact on this team right at the beginning 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:27.160 or do you see this more happening as like a 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.640 progression that maybe towards the middle of the season it 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.880 kind of starts picking up. Okay, I want to answer 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.360 your question with a question that I want these guys 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:39.520 to answer. Will Garrett allow him to be able to 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.320 call plays as he sees fit for him to then 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.040 be able to do some of the things that are 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.480 outside the box and creative and all the stuff you 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.520 talk about. Is he going to allow him to do 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.760 that or is this going to be Hey, I know 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.400 you're going to call the plays, but right now, I 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.960 want to run the ball. Right now, I want to 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.280 run a toss left, just like what you allow your 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.560 son and daughters to do. You know, when you give 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.040 a chance to go out until ten o'clock or you know, 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.960 if they come back at nine fifty eight, then the 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.720 next you know, that's what you do. You give him 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.040 a little bit of a leash to see what he 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:09.840 can do. But I mean this is we all know 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.320 Jason's gonna be coaching for his life here. So um yeah, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.280 you're gonna allow him to do those things in the 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.040 preseason early on, but but not when it matters. No. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.840 I mean, you know, you you know, a preseason, first 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.560 couple of games, we'll see what happens. But if they 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:24.560 need to, you know, if he needs to do what 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:26.640 he needs to do. We saw it with the offensive 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.200 line coach. I mean, I think he's gonna give him 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:30.680 a chance to do well. And you know, like this 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.600 last year, some of the things that we're being talked about, like, oh, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:37.880 is he gonna start calling the place, you know, take 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.440 over that role from Lenihan, And there were some talks, well, 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.600 let's just let Lenihan do it and kind of keep 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.200 it a little bit separate, although he's still the head coach, 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:50.680 but kind of blame it. It's not really blame it, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.280 but you know what I'm saying to say, kind of 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.760 like let him fall on the sword. Let let Lenihan 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.200 kind of fall down on his own and and you 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.560 still have a way out, a little bit of a 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.360 way out with this now with a year contract happening, 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.400 this is one that if he needs to step up, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.800 he's going to have to make a decision here and 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.600 really play for his job. Well, the front office allow 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.800 him to do that, that's the question. Allow him to 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.560 be the primary play caller, because it sounds like to me, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.560 just kind of bumping into folks. Yeah, it sounds like 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:24.439 to me that he wanted to be the play caller, 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:28.160 and they were they were like, no, look Jason, yes, yes, yeah, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.560 that's kind of the way I yeah, and when this 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.879 year this year, yes, this year, Yeah, that Jason, you know, 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.200 when we're talking about things that like, you know, Okay, 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.120 you're coaching for your job. I'm I'm from the school 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:41.720 of I'm the school if I'm gonna get fired, I 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.680 want to get fired doing what I need to do. 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.240 I don't need Derek to get me fired. I could. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.080 I I'm capable of getting myself fired or could or 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.719 I'm capable of getting for getting a contract extension, right, 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.280 you know, now you know to me to me, he 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.439 he obviously said, okay, let me call plays. No, you 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.240 need to continue to do what you're gonna do, and 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.000 we'll we'll work that, we'll work that route. And so 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.639 you know, if if he tries to jump in and 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:13.399 do things with with with with Kellen, I wonder what 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.679 kind of pushback he's going to get from the front off. Yeah, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.240 and I think with Parcels when I keep going back 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.399 to him, but he wasn't the offensive coordinator, but he 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.680 kind of was. He even said so much. I mean, hey, 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:27.560 let's make sure we get the ball to Barber here 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.000 on the out side. Yeah, that's my point, not necessarily 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.480 left or right or exactly exactly calling the play, but 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.400 let's let's give it to him, you know, And so 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.320 I think there's ways maybe that Jason can kind of 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.520 be a servant, And I don't know if that he 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.520 doesn't do that, but you know, but we don't know 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.280 what he does and doesn't do. But I guess that's 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.920 my point is to answer your original question. I do 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.520