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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Break. We don't have
Speaker 1: We do not have David Hellman here today, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we have Bryan brought us with a stuffy nose. He
Speaker 1: said that he wanted to be on radio today, so
Speaker 1: he's here filling in for Dave, who took his place
Speaker 1: yesterday on his show. Yes, ma'am, so welcome to thank
Speaker 1: your old show. I appreciate that this going to be
Speaker 1: an old school break, old old school back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when it was the three of us? Were you on
Speaker 1: the show back now? No? I didn't think so it
Speaker 1: was just the three of us, right? Or do we
Speaker 1: have somebody else with us? I think I would look
Speaker 1: a little older. What are you trying to say about it?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, okay, all right, how are you guys
Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Good? All right, Well, a lot of
Speaker 1: things have happened since we last met. There was a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that went down, there was a change in
Speaker 1: LC well, we got the hiring of Kellen Moore. That's
Speaker 1: basically all news right now. But let's try to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to correlate this to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and what happened. A lot of people try to tie
Speaker 1: in what has been going on with Sean McVey him
Speaker 1: being a young guy kind of renewing and turning things
Speaker 1: around for the Rams and Kellen Moore. Some of the
Speaker 1: things that that you've heard from people such as Dak Prascott,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, they seem to speak of him very very well.
Speaker 1: They say he's a very smart guy, has some creativity
Speaker 1: in him. What are your expectations from this change and
Speaker 1: seeing what a young guy like McVeigh has been able
Speaker 1: to do. You're taking them to the Super Bowl. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we saw what happened
Speaker 1: in the score. They were playing against the Patriots, who
Speaker 1: still came out with the win. But like you mentioned earlier, Nick,
Speaker 1: when when I saw you out in the hallway, they
Speaker 1: only score how many points? Yeah, they scored three. Sean
Speaker 1: mcvay's done a great job, obviously, and he is a
Speaker 1: great coach. And you know, there's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: in the world that look like Julian ed Edelman and
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, but there's only a few of them that
Speaker 1: actually do those jobs. And so there's a lot of
Speaker 1: young coaches who are you know, innovative and all that,
Speaker 1: and that they're not all gonna be like Sean McVay.
Speaker 1: And maybe Kellen Moore is going to be like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. But you know, old school always doesn't
Speaker 1: always win, but it does. And when when you're when
Speaker 1: Bill belichicks is yea, And I mean I said this before.
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys score and if they get to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I mean, if he could shut down
Speaker 1: the Rams, he would have shut down this offense in
Speaker 1: my opinion. So you know, I mean this whole like
Speaker 1: I only scored three. Good luck within anybody scoring against
Speaker 1: that the way that he coached it. Yeah, they're a
Speaker 1: team that this game was one in preparation. This game
Speaker 1: was won in the weeks off before you know, there's
Speaker 1: McVeigh is a big admire of Bill Belichick. A matter
Speaker 1: of fact, they text each other. You know, Bill's always
Speaker 1: kind of I had a feeling that Bill Belichick knew
Speaker 1: that he was going to play Sean McVeagh. I had
Speaker 1: a feeling that he, you know, as the season wore on,
Speaker 1: he's probably thinking, this is the one team I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to prepare for, this is the one offense I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to get ready for. And what he was
Speaker 1: able to do was neutralize things that McVeigh does really well.
Speaker 1: And that's where I think that if you talk about
Speaker 1: game plans, mcveigh's game plan didn't clearly didn't match what
Speaker 1: New England had. New England had an idea of, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is how we're going to attack him. If he's
Speaker 1: going to use this communication device and talk to his
Speaker 1: quarterback fifteen seconds before to kind of we're not gonna
Speaker 1: show him this. We're not gonna show him affront. We're
Speaker 1: gonna show him a six two front. We're gonna play
Speaker 1: a goal line front the whole day, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: see that he and they made They made Jared Golf
Speaker 1: have to win that game, throwing the football on his own,
Speaker 1: on his own. They they played outstanding coverage, They were
Speaker 1: able to get, you know, the rams the line had
Speaker 1: done a great job with protection all year long until
Speaker 1: this game. You know, they really this was a game
Speaker 1: that they really struggled, and they struggled because the coverage
Speaker 1: and they confused the quarterback. This game again was one
Speaker 1: This game was won the week before the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in preparation, like they were like videotape and practice or
Speaker 1: something like that something, honestly, And I want to just
Speaker 1: clarify for fans out there listening, Yeah, that's happened when
Speaker 1: the rams and pages, Yeah, that happens. That happened. Maybe
Speaker 1: not just when the rams. Maybe we need to think
Speaker 1: about it anyway from what from what I just want
Speaker 1: to clarify for fans that may not have heard what
Speaker 1: Brian was talking about. Was essentially there was an article
Speaker 1: that came out after the Super Bowl that said that
Speaker 1: the pay Riots were aware of the fact that Sean
Speaker 1: McVay would kind of help through the headset, would kind
Speaker 1: of help his quarterback and this is illegal, would help
Speaker 1: his quarterback by telling him he'd see how the defense
Speaker 1: was lining up, and then he would give him here's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and here's what you need to
Speaker 1: be paying attention to and what you need to know
Speaker 1: about that is fifteen seconds before the play clock ends
Speaker 1: is when communication gets gets cut off. Now, what the
Speaker 1: Patriots did, supposedly was they ran into each each situation
Speaker 1: with two plays. They would show one thing before fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds and then they show something else after fifteen seconds.
Speaker 1: And that changed what And now your quarterback golf is
Speaker 1: having to adjust on the fly, which is not what
Speaker 1: he was having to do most of the season. Now
Speaker 1: here's the interesting part about that. The interesting part about
Speaker 1: that is I read an article back during the season,
Speaker 1: this was like late December where it talked about how
Speaker 1: other teams during the month of December had started to
Speaker 1: figure that out as well. The Patriots weren't the first
Speaker 1: to do this right, and that was the reason why,
Speaker 1: at least in this article saying is why they struggled
Speaker 1: offensively in the abouth of December. Now here we go
Speaker 1: the other thing to notice, the y you one tied
Speaker 1: us back to the Cowboys. There was one outlier in
Speaker 1: that time in December throughout the playoffs, and that was
Speaker 1: the game against the Cowboys. And notoriously, notoriously, what they
Speaker 1: say publicly here is we do what we do. We
Speaker 1: don't worry about the opponent. Right. That would suggest to
Speaker 1: me that maybe they didn't go into the game saying
Speaker 1: we're gonna do the same thing, and it allowed the
Speaker 1: Rams that they played right into the what the Rams
Speaker 1: wanted to do as opposed to the Patriots and what
Speaker 1: they did in the Super Bowl, what they did exactly
Speaker 1: the opposite. And they were so successful. You know when
Speaker 1: Marion Elli was coaching with the Buccaneers and they were
Speaker 1: really good with that, Derek Brooks and Warren Sapp and
Speaker 1: all that. And you can have Hall of Fame type players,
Speaker 1: you can do what you do. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: do that. I'm sure the eighty five Bears did what
Speaker 1: they did, absolutely, but the Patriots don't have those guys.
Speaker 1: But they did what what what will work? And I
Speaker 1: think that's a it's a stubbornness that we've talked about
Speaker 1: a lot offense and defense. We're just gonna run over them. Well,
Speaker 1: Joe Looney's not going to run over you. You have
Speaker 1: to do it differently, and so hopefully you can learn
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys and other teams can learn from that.
Speaker 1: This is where the Patriots are different than everybody else's.
Speaker 1: They have a game plan each week to whoever they're playing,
Speaker 1: they figure out who they want to stop. When they
Speaker 1: played Jason Witton, you know, several years ago, they didn't
Speaker 1: worry about Dez Bryant. They worried about Jason Witton. And
Speaker 1: that's where Belichick is so much different than a lot
Speaker 1: of other coaches. He comes in with a plan each week.
Speaker 1: They their guys not only have to be smart, but
Speaker 1: they have to be able to play on the fly.
Speaker 1: Like Derek was talking about, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, if you're gonna give us eleven personnel,
Speaker 1: like what the Rams are doing with the three wide
Speaker 1: receivers the whole game, Okay, we'll match you, but this
Speaker 1: is how we're going to match it. And so by
Speaker 1: giving the different looks and being able to play a
Speaker 1: different defense every week, then you know, it's like the
Speaker 1: Rams are talking about, Hey, we knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1: They line three guys up on one side, they line
Speaker 1: an end up over here, They're going to run the
Speaker 1: twist to this side. We knew it. We knew what
Speaker 1: was going on. That's scouting. Belichick doesn't let you do that.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you when I when we get ready to
Speaker 1: play New England next year, I will watch the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and it won't be the same defense. Whatever I say
Speaker 1: during that week, don't even listen because whoever they're playing, whoever,
Speaker 1: whoever they're playing before the Cowboys, and whoever they play
Speaker 1: after the Cowboys will have a different front. And that's coaching.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure everybody out there right now is going,
Speaker 1: why can't we do that? And that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Why can't we do that? The interesting part about that,
Speaker 1: and Nick, you and I had this conversation earlier this
Speaker 1: week when we were talking about Brady versus Belichick. You
Speaker 1: know that whole discussion. My thought was, if you look
Speaker 1: at how they do that and the fact that how
Speaker 1: many how many coaches have left that New England system
Speaker 1: and nobody's been able to replicate this around the NFL.
Speaker 1: There's something that that man knows how to do as
Speaker 1: a coach that is just special. It is just special,
Speaker 1: and nobody else has been able to do it. They
Speaker 1: know what he's doing because all those coaches have left
Speaker 1: and been head coaches, none of them have been able
Speaker 1: to replicate it. So if you want to talk about,
Speaker 1: you know, Brady versus Belichick, in my opinion, look at
Speaker 1: the delta between Brady and the next coach, and then
Speaker 1: Belichick and the next coach Ian Brady and the next quarterback,
Speaker 1: and Belichick and the next coach. The difference between Belichick
Speaker 1: and the next coach is vast. It's way bigger than say,
Speaker 1: you know, you you drow the quarterback Brees or Rogers,
Speaker 1: like the delta between them and Bree and and and Brady.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's huge. I think it's huge when
Speaker 1: you talk about coach and not. That's the difference right
Speaker 1: now with what the Patriots are doing versus what every
Speaker 1: other team then. And that's also a combination. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the continue you put that together right too, and
Speaker 1: the continuity that they've had and all that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence that they lost to
Speaker 1: the Lions, they lost to the Titans this year of
Speaker 1: the Patriots, both of them pretty convincingly. And you look
Speaker 1: at the coaches of those teams came from the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Both came from well the general manager of the Lions too,
Speaker 1: and the head coaches, you know obviously. Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: had that Titans. They can be anybody else, but they
Speaker 1: couldn't be anybody else. Yeah, Yeah, No, if you have
Speaker 1: an understanding. And that's what again makes I think makes
Speaker 1: Belichick so unique, like you're talking about Derek, is his
Speaker 1: ability to say, you know what, and I think he
Speaker 1: goes all the way back to when he was with
Speaker 1: Parcels and that he had so many dynamic players on
Speaker 1: defense that he was able to morph into a lot
Speaker 1: of different fronts and a lot of different schemes in order.
Speaker 1: And that's where they look at themselves and say, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: this guy fits our scheme. This way. He could be
Speaker 1: he could be a nickel tackle, he could be a
Speaker 1: rush in, he could be a stand up linebacker if
Speaker 1: he has to. They get players that could play a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways, and that way it allows them
Speaker 1: to have the flexibility in their schemes to beat you
Speaker 1: every week with a difference because even though the players
Speaker 1: aren't great players, versatile players versatile players, versatility is more
Speaker 1: important than versatility and smarts is more important. Look at mccordy,
Speaker 1: the play that he made on the busted coverage down
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. That's just playing with awareness.
Speaker 1: That's not something to Bill Belichick. That's Belichick knowing that
Speaker 1: that kid right there could play for me. Because he's smart.
Speaker 1: The Broncos they play a three four right, and the
Speaker 1: Redskins play a three four right, and Cowboys play a
Speaker 1: four to three and the Patriots play what right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the point of everything. You can't really you know.
Speaker 1: And it's the same with Parcels and now gets Belichick's
Speaker 1: the same way. When Parcels was here, we was like, well,
Speaker 1: is he a defensive coach or is he offensive coach?
Speaker 1: Because he kind of sounds like an offensive coach, and
Speaker 1: I Belichick's kind of the same way, you know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was defensive guy for the Giants, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of now and you know, an offensive coach. So the
Speaker 1: coaches are the same as the players. They can play
Speaker 1: three four or four three and as a linebacker, you
Speaker 1: can play safety. Yeah you gave a guy two weeks
Speaker 1: to prepare for you. Yeah, I guarantee that it's really
Speaker 1: a guy like that. Well, the same thing if you
Speaker 1: look down with college football, with what's going on. The
Speaker 1: Alabama's kryptonite now is Clemson. Clemson's figured out. Okay, if
Speaker 1: we have a quarterback that can do this, this gives
Speaker 1: them problems. And you know that's where you have to
Speaker 1: kind of you gotta win the ACC and then you
Speaker 1: got to go and win these playoff games. But I'll
Speaker 1: say this about saving two, like and Clemson really was
Speaker 1: no shot to Alabama when you gave Saban three to
Speaker 1: four weeks and in that first game, because you remember
Speaker 1: that they've beat him and it's been close those championship games.
Speaker 1: But two years ago it was the first game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which which you get it like a month, and Saban's
Speaker 1: really good with that, just like he was in this
Speaker 1: game against Oklahoma. But you know, maybe the one week
Speaker 1: is a little different. Saban, I think is like Belijick.
Speaker 1: You give him that long and I guarantee you the
Speaker 1: Pages will have a bye week before Dallas, guaranteeing it
Speaker 1: right now, bye week Dallas in October. Well you might
Speaker 1: catch him as long as it's in October. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I think there's only two because it's someone to go
Speaker 1: in December. Now get the league. The league very well
Speaker 1: can make us go play that thirsty night game to
Speaker 1: start the year. Yeah, the stuff is gonna be Kansas
Speaker 1: City on No. No, there's only it's been reported. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's been reports. Scherene Williams came in Mother Football came
Speaker 1: in and said, no, it's Bears, Bears and Packers. One
Speaker 1: hundred years Bears, Packers. They're not going to have the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. You're not play going with the Bears and
Speaker 1: the Packers for to celebrate a hundred years of football.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go with Bears and Packers. Hey, one hundred
Speaker 1: years is important. I guess really doesn't. Sunday Nights Writs
Speaker 1: and Chiefs like that. We see. That's that's why I thought.
Speaker 1: Because the only two home games the Patriots Habiants playoff
Speaker 1: teams or Kansas City in Dallas. Yeah, so that's why
Speaker 1: I figured. I figured Kansas City. That's like they like
Speaker 1: to match up those previous year playoff games. That was
Speaker 1: a game that's worth repeating. They didn't want to see
Speaker 1: that they did that. Did they do that two years ago?
Speaker 1: Kansas City went up there one? Yeah, it was two
Speaker 1: years ago. I would it's the only time a Thursday
Speaker 1: night team has ever won. I would I would repeat
Speaker 1: that one. Well, I know that boys on a Wednesday
Speaker 1: night game. Yeah, remember that, that's true. That was the
Speaker 1: famous Yeah brought us first game with this was that
Speaker 1: first Oh yeah, I just m f the fans. It
Speaker 1: was a yd But either way, it was good. I
Speaker 1: was all over those giant fans. But but you know,
Speaker 1: somebody brought this to a tense You talking about putting
Speaker 1: up a fight Fox. Um. You know you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Patriots, and then that's a scheduled game for Fox,
Speaker 1: who they don't get the Patriots a lot. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be putting up a fight to lose that one. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: which I don't think you should. I think that's the
Speaker 1: kind of game that's gonna have a lot of excitement
Speaker 1: later in the season. You don't need to waste that
Speaker 1: on an opening There are other matchups you can do
Speaker 1: an opening night when you're gonna get everybody to watch
Speaker 1: anyway because it's opening night, right, But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you say that one for a little later. You make
Speaker 1: that a Sunday night football game. To the point we're
Speaker 1: making is is you know you don't think he gives
Speaker 1: he gives us a crap about the fourth preseason game,
Speaker 1: probably not even the third preseason game. He's going to
Speaker 1: be focused on Dallas all years, So you don't want
Speaker 1: that week one. No, Yeah, that's true. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take it back to Kellen Moore. And don't you You
Speaker 1: did a great Let's get back there, and I'll be
Speaker 1: the first one to say, you know, I've changed my
Speaker 1: tune in this whole thing. I had a real issue
Speaker 1: with it last week before it was official, but then
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to be more open mind the bar
Speaker 1: it just because there are certain people that I mean,
Speaker 1: you deserve a chance and you never know how they
Speaker 1: may surprise you, right, And then I try to think
Speaker 1: and go back to myself, my own experiences in life,
Speaker 1: and you know, had I not been given a chance,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be anywhere, right, And I've been able to
Speaker 1: overcome obstacles and there's still work that needs to be done,
Speaker 1: an improvement. But at the end of the day, everyone
Speaker 1: deserves a chance, like, let's go for it. But are
Speaker 1: you guys expecting kell And to be able to make
Speaker 1: an immediate impact on this team right at the beginning
Speaker 1: or do you see this more happening as like a
Speaker 1: progression that maybe towards the middle of the season it
Speaker 1: kind of starts picking up. Okay, I want to answer
Speaker 1: your question with a question that I want these guys
Speaker 1: to answer. Will Garrett allow him to be able to
Speaker 1: call plays as he sees fit for him to then
Speaker 1: be able to do some of the things that are
Speaker 1: outside the box and creative and all the stuff you
Speaker 1: talk about. Is he going to allow him to do
Speaker 1: that or is this going to be Hey, I know
Speaker 1: you're going to call the plays, but right now, I
Speaker 1: want to run the ball. Right now, I want to
Speaker 1: run a toss left, just like what you allow your
Speaker 1: son and daughters to do. You know, when you give
Speaker 1: a chance to go out until ten o'clock or you know,
Speaker 1: if they come back at nine fifty eight, then the
Speaker 1: next you know, that's what you do. You give him
Speaker 1: a little bit of a leash to see what he
Speaker 1: can do. But I mean this is we all know
Speaker 1: Jason's gonna be coaching for his life here. So um yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna allow him to do those things in the
Speaker 1: preseason early on, but but not when it matters. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you you know, a preseason, first
Speaker 1: couple of games, we'll see what happens. But if they
Speaker 1: need to, you know, if he needs to do what
Speaker 1: he needs to do. We saw it with the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach. I mean, I think he's gonna give him
Speaker 1: a chance to do well. And you know, like this
Speaker 1: last year, some of the things that we're being talked about, like, oh,
Speaker 1: is he gonna start calling the place, you know, take
Speaker 1: over that role from Lenihan, And there were some talks, well,
Speaker 1: let's just let Lenihan do it and kind of keep
Speaker 1: it a little bit separate, although he's still the head coach,
Speaker 1: but kind of blame it. It's not really blame it,
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying to say, kind of
Speaker 1: like let him fall on the sword. Let let Lenihan
Speaker 1: kind of fall down on his own and and you
Speaker 1: still have a way out, a little bit of a
Speaker 1: way out with this now with a year contract happening,
Speaker 1: this is one that if he needs to step up,
Speaker 1: he's going to have to make a decision here and
Speaker 1: really play for his job. Well, the front office allow
Speaker 1: him to do that, that's the question. Allow him to
Speaker 1: be the primary play caller, because it sounds like to me,
Speaker 1: just kind of bumping into folks. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: to me that he wanted to be the play caller,
Speaker 1: and they were they were like, no, look Jason, yes, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of the way I yeah, and when this
Speaker 1: year this year, yes, this year, Yeah, that Jason, you know,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about things that like, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're coaching for your job. I'm I'm from the school
Speaker 1: of I'm the school if I'm gonna get fired, I
Speaker 1: want to get fired doing what I need to do.
Speaker 1: I don't need Derek to get me fired. I could.
Speaker 1: I I'm capable of getting myself fired or could or
Speaker 1: I'm capable of getting for getting a contract extension, right,
Speaker 1: you know, now you know to me to me, he
Speaker 1: he obviously said, okay, let me call plays. No, you
Speaker 1: need to continue to do what you're gonna do, and
Speaker 1: we'll we'll work that, we'll work that route. And so
Speaker 1: you know, if if he tries to jump in and
Speaker 1: do things with with with with Kellen, I wonder what
Speaker 1: kind of pushback he's going to get from the front off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think with Parcels when I keep going back
Speaker 1: to him, but he wasn't the offensive coordinator, but he
Speaker 1: kind of was. He even said so much. I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: let's make sure we get the ball to Barber here
Speaker 1: on the out side. Yeah, that's my point, not necessarily
Speaker 1: left or right or exactly exactly calling the play, but
Speaker 1: let's let's give it to him, you know, And so
Speaker 1: I think there's ways maybe that Jason can kind of
Speaker 1: be a servant, And I don't know if that he
Speaker 1: doesn't do that, but you know, but we don't know
Speaker 1: what he does and doesn't do. But I guess that's
Speaker 1: my point is to answer your original question. I do
Speaker 1: think that if Jason allows Kellen to call the plays
Speaker 1: as he sees fit, then I think fans will see
Speaker 1: a tangible difference in the creativity of the play calling. Now,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't, then what you're probably going to see
Speaker 1: is something that's more familiar to what Jason likes to do. Right,
Speaker 1: And then it doesn't really matter who's calling the plays
Speaker 1: because ultimately they're being guided in a certain way. Now
Speaker 1: that's who totally different than every head coach has a
Speaker 1: right and will say, here's the overall philosophy of what
Speaker 1: we want to do from a standpoint of game planning
Speaker 1: offensively and defensively in this game, because you want the
Speaker 1: two to be coordinated together. But if he does that
Speaker 1: and then steps away and lets him really call the
Speaker 1: game and put some of the plays in that maybe
Speaker 1: plays and aren't traditionally seen Nick's fleeflicker like that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff, then That's where I think you could maybe
Speaker 1: see the benefit of having a guy like Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: who played in a wide open offense at Boise State,
Speaker 1: who might do some of that stuff as opposed to
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that Jason has seen and done
Speaker 1: here with the Cowboys for twenty something. I guess, and coach,
Speaker 1: do you fall into the philosophy of you are what
Speaker 1: you surround yourself with the fact that he's been here
Speaker 1: for so long now and he's mainly been around here
Speaker 1: in this system, does that concern you? There you go,
Speaker 1: this is what he can do. This is where I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna turn. I don't think Jason Garrett's gonna
Speaker 1: lean on Kellen Moore. I think he's gonna lean on
Speaker 1: John Kittena. That's who I think. I think I think
Speaker 1: he I think he feels like he again whispering, talking
Speaker 1: to people, bumping into people. They wanted to They wanted
Speaker 1: to bring in Kellen Moore, they wanted it makes me
Speaker 1: um John kitten At last year and then and then
Speaker 1: Scott said, no, let's let's go with Kellen. Let's go
Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable. This is where I think is
Speaker 1: gonna have. Yeah, you can have Kellen Moore. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, let's see you do your job. Great, let's you,
Speaker 1: but you watch what happens here. You watch how when
Speaker 1: we all get to training camp and stuff, we'll watch
Speaker 1: and you'll see how much interaction that Jason Garrett has
Speaker 1: with John KITTENA. I think if if Kellen Moore starts
Speaker 1: to slide the three and five recovery plan will be
Speaker 1: John Kitten to take this thing over. John Kitten had
Speaker 1: got Jason Garrett's job. If you remember when they were
Speaker 1: won in seven, who was the quarterback that saved him
Speaker 1: to get this job, John Kittna. So he's gonna lean
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Speaker 1: Since there have been news or little rumors going around
Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Elliott and possibly doing it hold out this
Speaker 1: upcoming year, just thought it might be good to discuss
Speaker 1: this whole subject, although Jerry Jones he basically dismissed it
Speaker 1: and kind of said, why talk about something that is
Speaker 1: not a fact yet, or why worry about something that
Speaker 1: hasn't happened an earthquake? Right? Why worry about it an
Speaker 1: earthquake that has not happened yet, right? So, just wanted
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this and do you actually
Speaker 1: see this as a possibility of actually happening with Zeke
Speaker 1: and doing that, and if so, how would this affect
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are doing around all their other plans. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's um you know, I think
Speaker 1: these things start out probably like there might be a rumor.
Speaker 1: But I do think that the you know, agents have
Speaker 1: you know, they want to kind of throw it out there. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's least talk contract here and maybe hold hold out
Speaker 1: could happen. But you know, he's been out in the
Speaker 1: offseason before or I don't think he's gonna miss you know,
Speaker 1: game checks or anything like that. I do think it's
Speaker 1: something the Cowboys needed to look at, and not not
Speaker 1: because of a threat of a holdout, but because, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, after three years, you want to start this
Speaker 1: clock earlier. If you're gonna resign him, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start this five year deal. And I'd rather do
Speaker 1: it now than try to do it after four or
Speaker 1: five years. I do it now. I think that's what
Speaker 1: the Rams did with Gurley. You can make the case
Speaker 1: of whether or not that's a good idea or not.
Speaker 1: He's been banged up, but I would do that. I
Speaker 1: don't care about the holdout. Jerry stood by him for
Speaker 1: a long time, you know, last year, through all that situation.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna hold out. I really don't,
Speaker 1: but I think that the smart thing to do business
Speaker 1: wise would be to make a deal. I've got mixed
Speaker 1: feelings right now on this because I think, well, I
Speaker 1: know my belief with regards to running back running backs
Speaker 1: by and Larges, don't give him a second contract. Obviously,
Speaker 1: with the Zekeel Elliott, it's a little bit different because
Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder if he is, if he's at
Speaker 1: transcendent hype running back that really can that you're actually
Speaker 1: still gonna get production out of him throughout a second protract.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. What I what I know is
Speaker 1: this last year, for the first time in his career,
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, I felt like they
Speaker 1: had shredded him. I felt like he was absolutely and
Speaker 1: and so that does And you talked about Gurley. As
Speaker 1: I was watching the Super Bowl, I'm thinking, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna convince me number one that there wasn't something wrong
Speaker 1: with him. If there was, If there was nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with him, then everybody in Saint Louis, in the front
Speaker 1: office and in the coaching staff needs to be fired
Speaker 1: because they spent all that money. But my point, they
Speaker 1: spent all that money on that running back, and to
Speaker 1: say you didn't use him just because you decided not
Speaker 1: to use him, then that's on you. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I think he probably still got some injuries. But it
Speaker 1: does make you wonder, then is it worth even when
Speaker 1: you have a really good running back like a Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley and in this instance Zeke, is it worth putting
Speaker 1: that money on the end. I like what Nick says,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, you better start that clock
Speaker 1: early so you can get as much of that as
Speaker 1: you can. But it does make me wondering. I am
Speaker 1: on the fence on this one on whether I would
Speaker 1: give a second contract to any running back. And in
Speaker 1: this instance, is Zeke transcendent enough and is he healthy
Speaker 1: enough for me to say I can get my money's
Speaker 1: worth on a second contract. I'll tell you what. You
Speaker 1: look at the numbers of these running backs for average
Speaker 1: per year lebyon Bell at fourteen point five, Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: at fourteen point three, David Johnson at thirteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, and then it dips Devonte Freeman at eight
Speaker 1: point two, Sean McCoy at eight eight million, and then
Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley, that's a rookie deal for him, that's
Speaker 1: all guaranteed. Seven point seven, Jerk McKinnon at seven five,
Speaker 1: Fournette at six seven. Seriously, that's what I'm saying. Jet McKinney. Yeah, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He's a good running back, but
Speaker 1: he ain't that good. But that's what I'm saying. Lamar
Speaker 1: Miller actually makes more money than Ezekiel Elliott. Okay, now
Speaker 1: you have to figure out where is ze That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Where does zeke? Where does he fall in
Speaker 1: the bell girly John Johnson, Freeman, McCoy, Barkley range. You
Speaker 1: want his valuation or fifteen his valuation. He's gonna say
Speaker 1: I should be the high. I'm just asking back what
Speaker 1: he's doing his ninety percent of the offense. That's exactly right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's his life. He's led the league in rushing two
Speaker 1: of the three years. You take six games away from
Speaker 1: him in the second year. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to lead the league, but he's he was out there,
Speaker 1: you know, he would definitely be up there. Um, whatever
Speaker 1: I do though with that money, and I told you
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I'm making I'm frontloading that, I'm taking the guarantees,
Speaker 1: and I'm taking his high salaries early. I'm taking him
Speaker 1: right now because if something happens in two or three
Speaker 1: years and you're looking at a David Johnson type of situation,
Speaker 1: or I had to say, Larry Johnson, if you really
Speaker 1: want to go back with the guys that were beat
Speaker 1: up a lot, and then then maybe if you have
Speaker 1: to make a change, You've you've taken a lot of
Speaker 1: the Brunne contract. You're right about that, because David Johnson's
Speaker 1: guarantee average guarantee a year is eight point two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, so you think about that. I mean that's
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing his first two years. Sixty three percent of
Speaker 1: his contract is guaranteed. David Johnson's yea, So I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's he's unrestricted in twenty twenty two. I'm resigning Cooper,
Speaker 1: which is a law Zeke, but I'm their contracts to
Speaker 1: me are going to be completely different. I would I
Speaker 1: would do Cooper's deal more back ended, and I would
Speaker 1: do Zeke more front ended. And then you have Dak.
Speaker 1: That's another time, man, you got time, you got another year. Yeah, yeah, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you worry about that this year. You don't,
Speaker 1: there's no need to. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question? If you could only and
Speaker 1: this was presented to me on Twitter today, if you
Speaker 1: could only sign three Cooper, Prescott, Lawrence or Elliott? You
Speaker 1: can you only sign three? Who do you sign? Which three? Um,
Speaker 1: you're definitely keeping your quarterback? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, we're
Speaker 1: talking about longest overall overall in the next couple of years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can only sign three of those four? Who do
Speaker 1: you keep? Well, I mean you're definitely doing the quarterback. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely doing the quarterback. Do you want to go
Speaker 1: back to the days of trust Carter? Yeah? No, you
Speaker 1: were put on this earth. I'm okay. What what are
Speaker 1: the future drafts looking like? No? No, no, No, quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are getting paid. I don't care quarterbacks getting paid. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, okay, getting paid. I would say pass rusher
Speaker 1: needs to get paid because he's not just the pass rusher.
Speaker 1: He's also a leader, sure, leader for your defense. And
Speaker 1: I think I got to pay the wide receiver, see
Speaker 1: I because the one that's hardest, the one that's easiest
Speaker 1: to replace. No, matter how good he is, is the
Speaker 1: running back that's that was That was that my answer
Speaker 1: to the question. That's exactly what I said. I said,
Speaker 1: I think the running back. And even though Ambar, You're right,
Speaker 1: like eighty percent of the offense went through Zeke, you know,
Speaker 1: but I feel like though the other ones I have
Speaker 1: to have. I mean, we saw what happened when this
Speaker 1: team didn't have a wide receiver, yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: need what happened when this team get run the ball? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But if there were three and five running the ball.
Speaker 1: But you go and find you go and look around
Speaker 1: the NFL and find me a lot of you find
Speaker 1: me the same number of wide receivers that are that
Speaker 1: you get in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds as
Speaker 1: you have good running backs that you find in the third,
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth rounds. It's all about replacement value, right,
Speaker 1: So even if Zeke and I know Zeke is a
Speaker 1: great running back, I'm taking nothing away from him, But
Speaker 1: my point is you can find really really great running
Speaker 1: backs later in the draft. Point and so it's to
Speaker 1: replace him is not as difficult as having to replace
Speaker 1: a pass rush or a place a quarterback. I agree,
Speaker 1: I agree, But how much has Dak. Right, then, how
Speaker 1: much can Dak give you? Like he gone better? Can
Speaker 1: he throw the ball down as is he completing passes?
Speaker 1: Because again, you look at what the production of these
Speaker 1: offense has been and it's all zeke zix ZIXI. Yes,
Speaker 1: Dak will give you some here and there that are
Speaker 1: really good, but just overall, yeah, but I'll put it
Speaker 1: to you like this. So if that's if you're going
Speaker 1: to use that thought process, then you're telling me that
Speaker 1: this year, if Dak would have gone down out, Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush could have done the same thing that Dak did
Speaker 1: and still got them to the playoffs. Is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying? Probably not? Okay, what's what's the well? But
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I think that Number one, I think
Speaker 1: that Dak will be a better player next year than
Speaker 1: he was this year because I think he is a
Speaker 1: better player as he keeps going. But even at that,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Rod Smith has to be your guy, right.
Speaker 1: I think there are other running backs that you can get,
Speaker 1: and finding another quarterback is not the same finding another
Speaker 1: running I'm just gonna say, if you're gonna use that example,
Speaker 1: if Cooper Rush is not gonna do that, rod Smith
Speaker 1: isn't leading the league in Russia. But but but my point
Speaker 1: is to rEFInd the receivers. To find a replacement for
Speaker 1: ro for rod Smith is a lot easier than finding
Speaker 1: a replacement Dak Prescott or a great question. But I
Speaker 1: you know Jerry is, you know has the money he
Speaker 1: has because he's never just had to settle that he's greedy.
Speaker 1: He's I'll take it all, so he's he's not gonna
Speaker 1: limit to three. But but I love the argument's sake,
Speaker 1: and I would go Cooper, Zeke and d law Uh.
Speaker 1: Those would be my three I would try to get
Speaker 1: because you like because you say, well, good luck, good
Speaker 1: luck with you, because you want to sign that good
Speaker 1: luck to you. Honestly, there's no but there is no
Speaker 1: Tirio signed back. Easy easy, easy, absolutely, because if you
Speaker 1: give him a quarter if you give me a quarterback,
Speaker 1: if you give me a quarterback that in his first
Speaker 1: three years in the NFL has gone to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: two of those three years has been the Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: two of those three years won the division, won the
Speaker 1: division two of those three years. I'm gonna say that's
Speaker 1: a quarterback worth developing and continuing to see where he goes,
Speaker 1: say the runner helped you win the division. I get
Speaker 1: all that, but I still say, if that's didn't do that,
Speaker 1: then you could have thrown whatever quarterback in there. You
Speaker 1: would have been fine. And I don't think that's the case. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I agree on on signing him if you can, But
Speaker 1: the question is gonna come down to how much because
Speaker 1: you just you just read the sheet from the agent.
Speaker 1: The agent just printed out. You know, when he goes
Speaker 1: into help, he was like, all right, we've won the
Speaker 1: division B. Yeah, and then they're gonna come back, and
Speaker 1: but it's like how how much? And that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the question there. Does he get the money? That's the max?
Speaker 1: But you know that's that's the thing about the NFL.
Speaker 1: You don't get paid what you're supposed to get paid.
Speaker 1: You get paid whatever the market dictates you're gonna get paid.
Speaker 1: And the fact that you had some quarterbacks last year
Speaker 1: that got paid and they're not that good. Yeah, seventeen millions, yes,
Speaker 1: Kingdom eighteen. Ryan tanney Hill nineteen two. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the who the cousins. What was cousins deal? Oh cousins
Speaker 1: is he's at twenty eight millions? Right? So you don't
Speaker 1: think that Dak is gonna be his agent's gonna walk
Speaker 1: in there and say, hey, that guy got paid twenty
Speaker 1: eight million. Our guys, bet Derrek car just got his bonus.
Speaker 1: His contract guaranteed nineteen millions going going into the season.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's changed, but going into the season,
Speaker 1: three of the five highest paid quarterbacks in the league
Speaker 1: did not have a winning record. Only Matt Ryan did,
Speaker 1: and the other one was Jimmy Garrappola, who was seven
Speaker 1: and oh who's now seven and one. We'll see he's
Speaker 1: still you know. But the Car Stafford and I think Cousins,
Speaker 1: they do not have winning records. And I don't believe
Speaker 1: either one of them has won a playoff game. So
Speaker 1: now you got that under decks, you know, belt. So
Speaker 1: I do think signing him is going to be gonna
Speaker 1: be a little bit harder, you know, because the jury
Speaker 1: is still somewhat out on what he can be as
Speaker 1: far in certain offenses. If you're gonna pay the money,
Speaker 1: I just you gotta you gotta play him the way.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this question based on what
Speaker 1: you currently have on this team. Um, and let's put
Speaker 1: aside whatever you think of the coaching Let's assume for
Speaker 1: a second that coaching, either this coach or another coach
Speaker 1: that would come in and be named later, that they
Speaker 1: would be give you everything you need from a coaching standpoint.
Speaker 1: Is dak press Gott good enough to win a championship?
Speaker 1: M I don't know, And I guess if you say
Speaker 1: you don't know, then you don't need I was about
Speaker 1: to say, you don't need to pay him if if
Speaker 1: there's if there's a hint of doubt in your mind. Okay,
Speaker 1: so what's your what's your answer that question? Oh? I
Speaker 1: would have paid the quarterback. But I'm saying, do you
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to win a champions I do?
Speaker 1: I do? I do. But but if you're But if
Speaker 1: you're if I think with the right coaching, you definitely can.
Speaker 1: Are we going up against New England? Like? Yeah, if
Speaker 1: that's always the killer, right, if we cannot play them,
Speaker 1: then maybe I can win Philadelphia. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: do think you can win. I mean, he's proven you
Speaker 1: can win. But but I don't want to be in
Speaker 1: the anti Dad. No, No, you're not. You're not. You're not.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, though I've lived that
Speaker 1: like you lived it, with me. You guys all lived
Speaker 1: it with me. He's better than that. I think he's
Speaker 1: he's a Romo. The question always was was Romo good enough?
Speaker 1: And he he never was. But I think, okay, that
Speaker 1: was also about other pieces. And that's my point, Like
Speaker 1: everything has to line up like Falls. Yes, Falls won
Speaker 1: a championship, but Falls was good enough with the other
Speaker 1: pieces they had around him, with a defense, with severe
Speaker 1: like all those things matter. So I think if you
Speaker 1: get the right pieces around him, I think enough to win,
Speaker 1: good enough to win. And I don't think you can
Speaker 1: just say you can just go out and grab a
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's gonna be good enough to win a championship.
Speaker 1: Look at like Ward. He has all the pedigree, he
Speaker 1: had a great defense, and he couldn't win a championship.
Speaker 1: That is, it's just a bad evaluation of a quarterback. Again,
Speaker 1: everybody had him. Say no, everybody, that's the problem. You
Speaker 1: run into this, that's the thing. You run into this.
Speaker 1: You look at this and you say, and I was
Speaker 1: just sitting there looking at these names. Okay, just real
Speaker 1: humor me. Here of the guys are going to get
Speaker 1: the next contract, who do you feel the most comfortable
Speaker 1: about Mayfield, Darnald Trubisky, golf Wins. Who do you feel
Speaker 1: the best offense, because he's already done, like I've seen
Speaker 1: him play really well. Wins is the one once again
Speaker 1: Mayfield Darnald Trubisky Golf Wins. I think once Ah Trubisky Trubisky,
Speaker 1: How are you really Tampas? Tampas in the same situation
Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston right now? Yeah, I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: looking at their quarterban. Dallas is in the same spot
Speaker 1: they're look they're The only difference is Dallas didn't have
Speaker 1: to pay their quarterback like these teams you're paying these
Speaker 1: guys that I just mentioned right now, Yeah, they had
Speaker 1: to pay these cats. I mean, Dallas didn't have to
Speaker 1: pay there. I've seen Trubisky play in January. I have
Speaker 1: not seen Wins play in January. Yeah, but seeing all
Speaker 1: this stuff, but he hasn't stayed healthy with as falling
Speaker 1: off on everybody. I just think he needs to He
Speaker 1: just needs to learn, like he needs to play and
Speaker 1: get experienced and be because what killed him this year
Speaker 1: was the fact that he when teams took away his
Speaker 1: coach in his headset, We'll take that away from him.
Speaker 1: I would if I'm if I'm his coaches this offseason,
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, all we're gonna do is sit around
Speaker 1: and just look at different scenarios and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to just figure out what you would watch. That's experience.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. He will be a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. I really DA's biggest weakness. What's the one
Speaker 1: thing that hurts Dak Prescott more than anything? Accuracy? Think
Speaker 1: it's accuracy well and also making decisions like quick decision
Speaker 1: looking at what he has on the field, And I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if quick decisions is what
Speaker 1: I would attribute to him. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times I don't know if it's that he's not making
Speaker 1: quick decision as much as he's waiting for things to happen,
Speaker 1: that he waits too long for him to happen than
Speaker 1: just taking what's available to him. Okay, what's his biggest strength? Strength? Strength? Now,
Speaker 1: the biggest strength, take hits. He can run. He's tough
Speaker 1: as nails and mentally, mentally and physically, and those things
Speaker 1: matter because he just has this will, Like he's resilient.
Speaker 1: And here's another thing. Who's calling the plays in the
Speaker 1: two minute offense, that's when he's good. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: calls him. He called him. You know, Romo did the
Speaker 1: same thing. They were really good when they're two minute offense.
Speaker 1: And so the whole about making decisions thaying I'm kind
Speaker 1: of with you there, but when it comes to two
Speaker 1: minute offense, he's making. But when they play in certain
Speaker 1: routes and this is a play you're gonna play, and
Speaker 1: that that is in his mind. So you see him
Speaker 1: hesitate when the play isn't working out how it's supposed
Speaker 1: to and somebody's covering a guy that he's planning on
Speaker 1: throwing the ball too. Right, then that becomes a problem
Speaker 1: because he can't adjust as quickly as you would want
Speaker 1: him to do. You think you can win a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl with a quarterback that plays with guts and determination
Speaker 1: and toughness. And I know it's a different is that
Speaker 1: not Bradshaw? Yeah, it's an accurate I was. I was
Speaker 1: with a guy that wasn't really accurate, but he was tough. Yeah, god,
Speaker 1: he was. I think it matters. I mean he lined
Speaker 1: up every snap, but we had players around him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: players around him. See that's where I think if if, if,
Speaker 1: if Dak Prescott fails, it's gonna because the front office
Speaker 1: failed him. It's not because of Dak Prescott. It's because
Speaker 1: the front office failed he going back to the to
Speaker 1: the running back situation. And I know it's a different
Speaker 1: era now, but you know, if you've been kind of
Speaker 1: burned by something before, I don't even know if burned
Speaker 1: is the right word. But Jerry, you know, with with
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, you know, he was he was trying to
Speaker 1: fight that. He was being stubborn about giving him that deal.
Speaker 1: Didn't want to finally gave Mary and Barber money the right, right,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about best in the league, yea, and
Speaker 1: the guy holding out and all that, and you know,
Speaker 1: a second contract. But you know, is that gonna get
Speaker 1: you in trouble if if you if you, if you
Speaker 1: play that way, because they didn't do that with DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 1: You know, Murray had led the league and you know,
Speaker 1: set records and all that, and they were like they
Speaker 1: were pretty stubborn about what they wanted to do. Fool's goal,
Speaker 1: Giants game, Dak no running game, fools goal, fools goal.
Speaker 1: But we saw at the Giants when you guys were
Speaker 1: at the metalands was that a fools goal? He had
Speaker 1: no running game there, He kind of shoulder the load. Honestly,
Speaker 1: What one of those is that? Like I say, is
Speaker 1: that one of the things I'm most interested in saying
Speaker 1: this next year is with a different play caller, is
Speaker 1: he willing to give Dak some games? Because that's also
Speaker 1: a thing that can extend my that can make me
Speaker 1: one extend ze Kellyott. Yeah, if you're not relying on
Speaker 1: him for ninety eighty percent whatever you said of your offense,
Speaker 1: and you're actually letting your quarterback actually go out there
Speaker 1: and in some games you're just gonna air it out,
Speaker 1: then I feel a little bit better about preserving the
Speaker 1: life of my running back. So I feel like I
Speaker 1: can pay him and keep that kind of production for
Speaker 1: a longer period of time. So I actually want to
Speaker 1: see And I don't think it's fool's goal. I don't
Speaker 1: think what he was able to do in that game.
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't the circumstances. He wasn't playing the Patriots
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, but it was an NFL game that
Speaker 1: team they wanted to win, and maybe they it was
Speaker 1: the last game. It didn't matter a lot to them.
Speaker 1: But NFL teams want to win, I think, and he
Speaker 1: played when I didn't played it. I thought a phenomenal
Speaker 1: game throwing the ball around without a running back, with
Speaker 1: running back got his run. And I think they played
Speaker 1: that game with a sense of they wanted to win
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, but we know it didn't actually count
Speaker 1: for what they were trying to But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I think just playing with a little
Speaker 1: more freedom, I think he felt more freedom of like
Speaker 1: experimenting certain things and doing certain things too, or that
Speaker 1: relieved or released a little bit of the pressure off
Speaker 1: his back. Well. And also I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: for a second that he didn't he wasn't proven something
Speaker 1: to the coaches as well. Larcus Lawrence is sitting there,
Speaker 1: he's out of the game, and and and Zeke is
Speaker 1: definitely out of the game and all that. Oh, but
Speaker 1: I'm not out of the game. Yeah, okay, you know
Speaker 1: you think. I actually think it's the opposite. I think
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't want to come out of
Speaker 1: game because I want to show all those coaches. Everybody
Speaker 1: may not think that, they may think that we need
Speaker 1: to run the ball all the time. I want to
Speaker 1: show everybody, guess what I can do this too, Like
Speaker 1: I can throw the ball. We can win games when
Speaker 1: we're throwing the ball. Well, either way, I mean, he
Speaker 1: it was. I called it the play of the sea,
Speaker 1: the best play of the season, regardless of it mattered
Speaker 1: or not. I thought it was his best throw to Beasley.
Speaker 1: I thought it was Beasley's best play. And he could
Speaker 1: have run it probably. I don't know. If he gets
Speaker 1: fifteen would have been he would have been like thirteen.
Speaker 1: He would have been a tough quarterback run over somebody guy, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do it. Yeah, but uh and body else was
Speaker 1: streaking down the sideline too, like Rod Smith or somebody
Speaker 1: that he might might have hit. But you know, he
Speaker 1: found easily, which isn't always easy to do down the field,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. It's not that we laugh. He's been
Speaker 1: riding at all season. Well, I just hate it. I'm open.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it. I mean, I get you
Speaker 1: are open. But in the press box we see that
Speaker 1: that can't see that. Yeah, let's go ahead and take
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Speaker 1: That's right. All right. Well we talked about dak Now
Speaker 1: just staying looney, let's stay, let's stay. End the quarterback topic. Okay,
Speaker 1: the backups something not as exciting but obviously very needed. Uh,
Speaker 1: if you still have Cooper Rush and Mike White out
Speaker 1: of these two, and there were a lot of people
Speaker 1: who were on the bendwagon for Cooper Rush. That was
Speaker 1: one of the I would do the chance Cooper Rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then Mike White got here and a lot of
Speaker 1: people were, and then I was, and then I was
Speaker 1: doing that. Mike White, Yeah, White, Mike White, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were going for Mike White. So out of these two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: who do you see the most capable of progressing and
Speaker 1: getting better, improving during training camp and becoming the right
Speaker 1: backup quarterback for Dike Prescott. I'm gonna go before Brian
Speaker 1: goes in because he's I know, he's going in on
Speaker 1: Mike White, and I don't I don't disagree. I think
Speaker 1: they're getting a really good teacher here in John Kitten. Now, um,
Speaker 1: and I know this might sound funny, but I mean,
Speaker 1: have you've seen his son. His son's not really that tall.
Speaker 1: He's a you know, younger guy, but but he played
Speaker 1: college quarterback, you know. I mean he's getting taught at home. Um,
Speaker 1: I think Mike White's got more tools than Cooper rush s.
Speaker 1: White was drafted and he's got you know, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get stronger and all that, and he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: guy who's been there, done it, and and and he
Speaker 1: is a really good teacher. I think Mike White's gonna
Speaker 1: take a I'm not gonna say Cooper has aling. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that, but I just think that Mike
Speaker 1: White has a chance to be better and Kitney can
Speaker 1: help him get there. He's absolutely right. I don't need
Speaker 1: to say anything more than what he just said. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. That's what Brian improves. No, No, I
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm excited for Mike White this training camp.
Speaker 1: I was disappointed because I thought Mike White it's a
Speaker 1: lot like my Dalton Schultz analogy. Dalton Schultz I thought
Speaker 1: after watching him at Stanford, I thought he would just
Speaker 1: come right in, be a blocker, catch the ball, do
Speaker 1: all those things. He was none of that. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: when what was I thinking? You know, and Mike White
Speaker 1: is a little bit of the same thing. And I
Speaker 1: saw Mike White in the preseason, I'm going he looks
Speaker 1: like a baby. He looks so young, a little baby.
Speaker 1: I can ask this question though, and you guys, you
Speaker 1: guys obviously watch a little more of practice during preseason.
Speaker 1: I do, Brian, you's gonna ask some film that you
Speaker 1: watch from time and time it tell me did you
Speaker 1: see because I have not seen I don't recall seeing
Speaker 1: at one moment last year during the preseason a moment
Speaker 1: from either one of those guys that made me say absolutely,
Speaker 1: because you think back to the guy the quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: had the team, yeah, the year before he was and
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like you look at you look at Romo,
Speaker 1: Romna had those moments. Romo wasn't great, but Romnna had
Speaker 1: moments that made you say, oh gosh, wow, that got
Speaker 1: played a little bit. And and Dak obviously his training
Speaker 1: camp that would I mean, his season, that was just
Speaker 1: the whole different level. But my point is, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about those kinds of guys, those unherolded guys, I
Speaker 1: think at some point you gotta see something. And so
Speaker 1: right now, to answer your question, I know this is
Speaker 1: gonna sound like being on the fence, and maybe I
Speaker 1: am at this point. Honestly, I honestly don't see I
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that either
Speaker 1: one of them is going to be your next guy.
Speaker 1: That's fair. And if I'm the Cowboys this year, I
Speaker 1: have a fourth guy in my camp that is a
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. And if I don't see one of those
Speaker 1: two guys take an appreciable step, that shows me they
Speaker 1: got something. I'm going into this year saying that Dak's
Speaker 1: gonna be my starter and I'm going to have a
Speaker 1: veteran backup, and I'm not developing these guys necessarily. I
Speaker 1: want a veteran backup so that if he goes down,
Speaker 1: I feel good about where I am. That sounds great.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do that. Maybe not. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's what I would because the veteran guy
Speaker 1: they have is not taken, is not on the salary cap,
Speaker 1: and I think that's really why John John and he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take reps away from the young guys,
Speaker 1: and anything that that veteran's gonna be able to give him,
Speaker 1: you know, from a standpoint of teaching and helping Dak
Speaker 1: is something that but I'm not. That's not why I'm
Speaker 1: bringing him in. I'm bringing him in because I want
Speaker 1: my quarterback. And you talk about this a lot. I
Speaker 1: want my quarterback, Dak Prescott, to be able to run
Speaker 1: the ball when he feels like he needs to run
Speaker 1: the ball. Now, when I do that, I'm exposing him
Speaker 1: to injury, which means that I'm taking the chance that
Speaker 1: if I got Mike White or whoever, that Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: whoever there might have to play this year, and if
Speaker 1: they have to play, I would rather have it unless again,
Speaker 1: unless I see something during this preseason that suggests they're
Speaker 1: ready for that role. I thought the Cowboys dodged a
Speaker 1: huge bullet this year by not having to do that
Speaker 1: because I don't think either one of those guys was
Speaker 1: ready to play yet. Yeah, if you look at the
Speaker 1: names of those guys, So you're talking about Colt McCoy,
Speaker 1: Drew Stanton, see, Mike Glennon. See I mean, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm talking about these are like, these are your run
Speaker 1: of the mill backup guys. You know Teddy Bridgewater six
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, you know that that was gonna be
Speaker 1: fought in the NFL next year. But yeah, but but
Speaker 1: it's like aj mccaron's of the world. Uh, Matt Shop
Speaker 1: has always been a high price guy for a backup role.
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick, I
Speaker 1: would take him. I think that a Ryan Fitzpatrick could
Speaker 1: win me a couple of games. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think if based on what they were coming into
Speaker 1: this year, I don't think you would have. None of
Speaker 1: us probably would have thought Cowboys had much chance to
Speaker 1: win games this year if either one of the two
Speaker 1: guys that were on this roster outside of Deck were
Speaker 1: forced into play. Well, you felt like that maybe they
Speaker 1: could win because of the running game, but not because
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, with all the other things they
Speaker 1: had going on. Receivers with the receiver by committee, if
Speaker 1: that went the season, I would you might not have
Speaker 1: won it. You might not have won You mentioned the
Speaker 1: Schultz thing to me, White, Mike White and Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: is like Schultz and Jarwin or I don't need them both,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need both of them to do that.
Speaker 1: I need one of you to step up and be
Speaker 1: better because I got other ways that I got Chill
Speaker 1: up the position. So now if they don't resign Swaying.
Speaker 1: I need both of them, and they might do that.
Speaker 1: And that's the tough thing with Swaying his injuries. You
Speaker 1: don't do you weigh that in. So you're saying you
Speaker 1: would take one of those two guys and then you
Speaker 1: would still get the veteran and you'd have kind of
Speaker 1: those three, you'd have that mix. I think so. I agree,
Speaker 1: I think so. And see what happens at camp, and
Speaker 1: see if one of those guys does step up, if
Speaker 1: they steps up to the point where they think they're
Speaker 1: number two. They yet both of them. See that's what
Speaker 1: That's what was so disappointing, because I thought Mike White
Speaker 1: would just clearly outplay Cooper Rush. And it wouldn't that
Speaker 1: neither one of them. I'm watching those games in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Why I love Mike White, but no, I get it.
Speaker 1: I know, But who would you say is the most accurate? Well,
Speaker 1: neither one of them were very I mean Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: was accurate his first year. Second year, the ball was
Speaker 1: all over the park. And you know, and I've seen
Speaker 1: Mike White at Western Kentucky throw the ball well that
Speaker 1: he gets here and I'm like me, it looks like
Speaker 1: me out there throwing. I would like to believe that
Speaker 1: Mike White is more accurate. I would like to believe
Speaker 1: that just from what I've seen in college, you know,
Speaker 1: in the college ranks and stuff like that. But man,
Speaker 1: I mean that was disappointing. That to me was really
Speaker 1: really disappointing because I thought that Mike White would come
Speaker 1: in here and just clearly outplay him. Yeah, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like Cooper Rush got a little skittish too.
Speaker 1: It's like he backed up, like he's like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: they drafted a guy, and then his game with the crap.
Speaker 1: And that's the disappointing part when you see someone regress
Speaker 1: rather than and progress over time. And it's yeah, we're
Speaker 1: watching some of his plays right now, but yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he looks like to me watching this as he looks
Speaker 1: like Romo Romo College and even some cavalry. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're not watching this, like I can go back
Speaker 1: and watch it after the fact. But when he was
Speaker 1: at the in the red zone, this is very Romo issue.
Speaker 1: At the about the eight yard line, he rolled right
Speaker 1: and he pointed to the outside receiver to go deep,
Speaker 1: and he threw it across the middle to the other
Speaker 1: other guy. Yeah, you know that's what rom the play
Speaker 1: against with Terrence Williams with the with the in Seattle
Speaker 1: when yeah, he pointed at Jason pointed right at the safety.
Speaker 1: But here throwing over here. It looks pretty I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, they all look. Romo is kind of
Speaker 1: he sets the bar to the point where like you
Speaker 1: don't ever want to say, well, Rush is not gonna
Speaker 1: be anything, and Mike White's not gonna be anything, because
Speaker 1: guarantee you we all were talking, none of us thought
Speaker 1: Romo would be yeah the guy, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now I wanted to we we don't need to get
Speaker 1: into depth because we're running out of time, but just
Speaker 1: a little bit of draft talk and some of y'all's
Speaker 1: priority based on Cowboys have different positions of need right now,
Speaker 1: so you have multiple choices, very diverse here. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to go and run the room and go through
Speaker 1: what it would be your main position of need that
Speaker 1: you would want to address, whether it's in free agency
Speaker 1: or the draft. What is your top priority right now?
Speaker 1: Top priority? Yes, I have three of them. Well, I
Speaker 1: have three priorities, And to be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: think the way the Cowboys are constructed right now. I'm
Speaker 1: going to take the best to pay available player at
Speaker 1: either of those three with my first pick, and that
Speaker 1: fifty eight that would be backup running back, that would
Speaker 1: be defensive tackle, and that would be safety one pick one.
Speaker 1: So if I had to choose one, you're sitting there now,
Speaker 1: you have safety away because that'll be cleared up before
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I'm gonna take care of that. You
Speaker 1: can do that. Yeah, And honestly, I think I think
Speaker 1: i'd probably do that. I'd probably go defensive tackle. I
Speaker 1: think that's the one i'd probably be. I'd probably I'd
Speaker 1: probably think it's my top priority. Yeah, I've said that
Speaker 1: one as well um on an other show. We've done it,
Speaker 1: and I do think that tight end is up there
Speaker 1: though for me to really Yeah, I mean I want,
Speaker 1: you know, not a believer in Jarwin at this point. No,
Speaker 1: why he showed you somethin at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: You're not You're not. I'm not expecting I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not expecting him to be Jason Witten in his prime.
Speaker 1: But I do think this offense functions and actually can
Speaker 1: function quite efficiently without having a tight end of that caliber.
Speaker 1: So I don't think of that as a high priority.
Speaker 1: I think I think you can make this offense work
Speaker 1: well with a tight end that kind of plays his role.
Speaker 1: Now where I would upgrade as far as the tight
Speaker 1: end position is, I'd go and get myself a blocking
Speaker 1: tight end that I can if you can get that
Speaker 1: guy later in the draft. That's not a one that
Speaker 1: you have to spend a lot of capital. I would,
Speaker 1: But then you also have to remind yourself, like how
Speaker 1: important tight end is for Dak. Dak leans on the
Speaker 1: tight end position a lot, and and it hasn't worked
Speaker 1: out this year, but that's a key position for what
Speaker 1: he's able to do on the field. But but if
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to that New York game, do
Speaker 1: you not want to give a little credit right there
Speaker 1: to Jarwin and what maybe he can be if they
Speaker 1: were going to open up the offense a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I think we've got good backup tight ends. I think
Speaker 1: we've gone backwards with the position. I still need a guy.
Speaker 1: I got a good I got some number twos. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind a number one tight end, which I think
Speaker 1: you'd have to get in maybe second round. They haven't
Speaker 1: had great luck with second round tight, you're not resigning
Speaker 1: h swim. You know. It's interesting by Derek's thought, though,
Speaker 1: if you draft a running back, you've kind of at
Speaker 1: two fifty eight, you've kind of cast a lot for
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with Ezekiel Elliott. Haven't you know?
Speaker 1: What you've done is you've given yourself some leverage. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, that you're going too that negotiation
Speaker 1: and you can be a lot stronger in your opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm just saying though, like, no, no,
Speaker 1: he is. The thing about leverage is all always about options.
Speaker 1: The more options you've got, the more leverage you got,
Speaker 1: right right, what would be your position? Brain? I just
Speaker 1: see there's a I see there's an issue. By the way,
Speaker 1: thanks appreciate that. I think there. I think that they
Speaker 1: have issues at defensive tackle, I really do. I mean,
Speaker 1: and and this is I don't you know the human
Speaker 1: log was outstanding Antoine Woods Collins is banged up. You
Speaker 1: know how healthy is he? Every year? Now it seems
Speaker 1: like and in next year the reoccurring. So yeah, next
Speaker 1: year he's done. So yeah, I think I go deef,
Speaker 1: He's not He's not a guy you resigned probably doesn't
Speaker 1: look that way. And and you also lost um, which
Speaker 1: is probably a good thing. But David Evering's not going
Speaker 1: to be a part of this. Are you sure? Ones
Speaker 1: are very concerned all this. I know you're working out
Speaker 1: right now and getting ready for the offseason cowboy fit,
Speaker 1: But which you know? I mean that just goes to
Speaker 1: that Billy Blanks. Yea, Bill? Is that the guy Billy Blanks.
Speaker 1: I've come home like four in the morning. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're sitting down, when you're eating Jack in the box.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how the story come on
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. We're talking about Tybo and
Speaker 1: Billy Blanks. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. You
Speaker 1: come home at four in the morning, and then they
Speaker 1: got full contact karate on or something like that. ESPN.
Speaker 1: You're flipping around and you're eating your Jack in the
Speaker 1: box because you've had too many Miller lights. And then
Speaker 1: Billy Blanks is trying to sell you some Tybo stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, bouncing around there, and you end up buying
Speaker 1: the seven disc package. Did you know? I flip over
Speaker 1: the next channel and buy it. The greatest of the eighties,
Speaker 1: the best Shark Tank ever was the one with Billy
Speaker 1: Blanks Junior. I guess that's the best one. I don't
Speaker 1: know even watched Shark Tank. It's pretty good show. It's
Speaker 1: the best one. Damon like walks off the set, goes
Speaker 1: and finds him in the back room and actually explains
Speaker 1: the deal or something like that. It's really good. It's
Speaker 1: like one of the best ones. Have you ever seen
Speaker 1: that one? No, I don't think so. I've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of those episodes. It's a good one. She watches
Speaker 1: that the guy what's the painting guy? The guy with
Speaker 1: the afro? What's that guy's name that got talked? Didn't
Speaker 1: he didn't? He got voice. I'm gonna make some Willie, Hey, sire,
Speaker 1: I hate to I hate to say, we're running out
Speaker 1: of time here, but I don't wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: care over what you just said. But um, this is
Speaker 1: our first show obviously since since last week when when
Speaker 1: Wade Wilson passed away, and we all have been we
Speaker 1: were all here with him and a couple of different stints.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable guy, and and it's really a sad situation. So
Speaker 1: I know all of our I don't speak for everybody here,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure I do and you should. Yeah, absolute
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, he definitely. Our thoughts and prayers go
Speaker 1: out to him and his family. He's he's one of
Speaker 1: the classiest guys that's ever come through here. Sticks is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why, the main reason why you
Speaker 1: have Doc Prescott here. He was a great evaluator. Well,
Speaker 1: I worked with him for a long time in those
Speaker 1: rooms and stuff. You always answered questions, always was prepared,
Speaker 1: you know, and just a great easy going guy. It's
Speaker 1: a shame, you know, it's sixties years old. Gold work
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, easy going, he really was. You know.
Speaker 1: He had some medical issues with diabetes and things like that,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just life, you know. You just
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed tomorrow. And in his case though, it's
Speaker 1: a shame that his life ended this quickly, because he
Speaker 1: is a super, super super guy. All right. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean you did a great job hosting that kid. Yeah, kid,
Speaker 1: thanks Dad. All right, you can take you take us
Speaker 1: a compliment. You don't have to just be a jerk
Speaker 1: about it. You called my kid, I called your dad.
Speaker 1: Let's run with that. I'm not your dad. Both accurate, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm closer to Bennett, are you yeah? Okay, now you're
Speaker 1: offending me. Now you need to stop talking, and now
Speaker 1: we might cancel the periscope later this afternoon. You need
Speaker 1: those numbers, trust me, all right. Well, thank you so much, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you Virtunity, and thanks Brian for being here for
Speaker 1: Derek Kingle Technique and Brian brought us. And this has
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