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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Break. We don't have

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Speaker 1: We do not have David Hellman here today, Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: we have Bryan brought us with a stuffy nose. He

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Speaker 1: he's here filling in for Dave, who took his place

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Speaker 1: yesterday on his show. Yes, ma'am, so welcome to thank

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Speaker 1: your old show. I appreciate that this going to be

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Speaker 1: an old school break, old old school back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when it was the three of us? Were you on

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Speaker 1: the show back now? No? I didn't think so it

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Speaker 1: a little older. What are you trying to say about it?

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, okay, all right, how are you guys

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Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Good? All right, Well, a lot of

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Speaker 1: things have happened since we last met. There was a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl that went down, there was a change in

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Speaker 1: LC well, we got the hiring of Kellen Moore. That's

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Speaker 1: things that that you've heard from people such as Dak Prascott,

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Speaker 1: They say he's a very smart guy, has some creativity

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Speaker 1: seeing what a young guy like McVeigh has been able

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Speaker 1: mcvay's done a great job, obviously, and he is a

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Speaker 1: And maybe Kellen Moore is going to be like that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. But you know, old school always doesn't

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Speaker 1: Scott said, no, let's let's go with Kellen. Let's go

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Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable. This is where I think is

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, let's see you do your job. Great, let's you,

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Speaker 1: but you watch what happens here. You watch how when

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is a second segment off the Break.

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Speaker 1: Since there have been news or little rumors going around

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Speaker 1: about Ezekiel Elliott and possibly doing it hold out this

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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on this and do you actually

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Speaker 1: see this as a possibility of actually happening with Zeke

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Speaker 1: and doing that, and if so, how would this affect

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are doing around all their other plans. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's um you know, I think

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Speaker 1: these things start out probably like there might be a rumor.

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Speaker 1: But I do think that the you know, agents have

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Speaker 1: you know, they want to kind of throw it out there. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's least talk contract here and maybe hold hold out

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Speaker 1: could happen. But you know, he's been out in the

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Speaker 1: offseason before or I don't think he's gonna miss you know,

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Speaker 1: game checks or anything like that. I do think it's

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Speaker 1: something the Cowboys needed to look at, and not not

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Speaker 1: because of a threat of a holdout, but because, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, after three years, you want to start this

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Speaker 1: clock earlier. If you're gonna resign him, I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start this five year deal. And I'd rather do

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Speaker 1: it now than try to do it after four or

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Speaker 1: five years. I do it now. I think that's what

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Speaker 1: the Rams did with Gurley. You can make the case

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Speaker 1: of whether or not that's a good idea or not.

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Speaker 1: He's been banged up, but I would do that. I

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Speaker 1: don't care about the holdout. Jerry stood by him for

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Speaker 1: a long time, you know, last year, through all that situation.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna hold out. I really don't,

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Speaker 1: but I think that the smart thing to do business

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Speaker 1: wise would be to make a deal. I've got mixed

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Speaker 1: feelings right now on this because I think, well, I

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Speaker 1: know my belief with regards to running back running backs

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Speaker 1: by and Larges, don't give him a second contract. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: with the Zekeel Elliott, it's a little bit different because

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to wonder if he is, if he's at

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Speaker 1: transcendent hype running back that really can that you're actually

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Speaker 1: still gonna get production out of him throughout a second protract.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. What I what I know is

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Speaker 1: this last year, for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: by the end of the year, I felt like they

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Speaker 1: had shredded him. I felt like he was absolutely and

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Speaker 1: and so that does And you talked about Gurley. As

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Super Bowl, I'm thinking, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna convince me number one that there wasn't something wrong

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Speaker 1: with him. If there was, If there was nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with him, then everybody in Saint Louis, in the front

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Speaker 1: office and in the coaching staff needs to be fired

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Speaker 1: because they spent all that money. But my point, they

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Speaker 1: spent all that money on that running back, and to

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Speaker 1: say you didn't use him just because you decided not

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Speaker 1: to use him, then that's on you. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 1: I think he probably still got some injuries. But it

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Speaker 1: does make you wonder, then is it worth even when

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Speaker 1: you have a really good running back like a Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley and in this instance Zeke, is it worth putting

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Speaker 1: that money on the end. I like what Nick says,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna do it, you better start that clock

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Speaker 1: early so you can get as much of that as

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Speaker 1: you can. But it does make me wondering. I am

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Speaker 1: on the fence on this one on whether I would

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Speaker 1: give a second contract to any running back. And in

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Speaker 1: this instance, is Zeke transcendent enough and is he healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for me to say I can get my money's

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Speaker 1: worth on a second contract. I'll tell you what. You

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers of these running backs for average

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Speaker 1: per year lebyon Bell at fourteen point five, Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: at fourteen point three, David Johnson at thirteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year, and then it dips Devonte Freeman at eight

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Speaker 1: point two, Sean McCoy at eight eight million, and then

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Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley, that's a rookie deal for him, that's

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Speaker 1: all guaranteed. Seven point seven, Jerk McKinnon at seven five,

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Speaker 1: Fournette at six seven. Seriously, that's what I'm saying. Jet McKinney. Yeah, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He's a good running back, but

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Speaker 1: he ain't that good. But that's what I'm saying. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Miller actually makes more money than Ezekiel Elliott. Okay, now

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Speaker 1: you have to figure out where is ze That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Where does zeke? Where does he fall in

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Speaker 1: the bell girly John Johnson, Freeman, McCoy, Barkley range. You

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Speaker 1: want his valuation or fifteen his valuation. He's gonna say

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Speaker 1: I should be the high. I'm just asking back what

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Speaker 1: he's doing his ninety percent of the offense. That's exactly right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's his life. He's led the league in rushing two

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Speaker 1: of the three years. You take six games away from

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Speaker 1: him in the second year. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: going to lead the league, but he's he was out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, he would definitely be up there. Um, whatever

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Speaker 1: I do though with that money, and I told you

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. I'm making I'm frontloading that, I'm taking the guarantees,

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Speaker 1: and I'm taking his high salaries early. I'm taking him

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Speaker 1: right now because if something happens in two or three

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Speaker 1: years and you're looking at a David Johnson type of situation,

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Speaker 1: or I had to say, Larry Johnson, if you really

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Speaker 1: want to go back with the guys that were beat

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Speaker 1: up a lot, and then then maybe if you have

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Speaker 1: to make a change, You've you've taken a lot of

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Speaker 1: the Brunne contract. You're right about that, because David Johnson's

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Speaker 1: guarantee average guarantee a year is eight point two. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you think about that. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing his first two years. Sixty three percent of

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Speaker 1: his contract is guaranteed. David Johnson's yea, So I mean,

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Speaker 1: and he's he's unrestricted in twenty twenty two. I'm resigning Cooper,

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Speaker 1: which is a law Zeke, but I'm their contracts to

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Speaker 1: me are going to be completely different. I would I

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Speaker 1: would do Cooper's deal more back ended, and I would

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Speaker 1: do Zeke more front ended. And then you have Dak.

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Speaker 1: That's another time, man, you got time, you got another year. Yeah, yeah, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you worry about that this year. You don't,

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Speaker 1: there's no need to. Can I ask you a question?

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Speaker 1: Can I ask a question? If you could only and

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Speaker 1: this was presented to me on Twitter today, if you

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Speaker 1: could only sign three Cooper, Prescott, Lawrence or Elliott? You

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Speaker 1: can you only sign three? Who do you sign? Which three? Um,

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Speaker 1: you're definitely keeping your quarterback? Wait? Wait, wait, wait, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about longest overall overall in the next couple of years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can only sign three of those four? Who do

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Speaker 1: you keep? Well, I mean you're definitely doing the quarterback. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely doing the quarterback. Do you want to go

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Speaker 1: back to the days of trust Carter? Yeah? No, you

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Speaker 1: were put on this earth. I'm okay. What what are

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Speaker 1: the future drafts looking like? No? No, no, No, quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: are getting paid. I don't care quarterbacks getting paid. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, okay, getting paid. I would say pass rusher

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Speaker 1: needs to get paid because he's not just the pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: He's also a leader, sure, leader for your defense. And

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Speaker 1: I think I got to pay the wide receiver, see

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Speaker 1: I because the one that's hardest, the one that's easiest

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Speaker 1: to replace. No, matter how good he is, is the

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Speaker 1: running back that's that was That was that my answer

638
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Speaker 1: to the question. That's exactly what I said. I said,

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Speaker 1: I think the running back. And even though Ambar, You're right,

640
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: like eighty percent of the offense went through Zeke, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: but I feel like though the other ones I have

642
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: to have. I mean, we saw what happened when this

643
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: team didn't have a wide receiver, yeah, and then we

644
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Speaker 1: need what happened when this team get run the ball? Yeah?

645
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: But if there were three and five running the ball.

646
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: But you go and find you go and look around

647
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: the NFL and find me a lot of you find

648
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: me the same number of wide receivers that are that

649
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: you get in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds as

650
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: you have good running backs that you find in the third,

651
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth rounds. It's all about replacement value, right,

652
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: So even if Zeke and I know Zeke is a

653
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: great running back, I'm taking nothing away from him, But

654
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: my point is you can find really really great running

655
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: backs later in the draft. Point and so it's to

656
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: replace him is not as difficult as having to replace

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00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: a pass rush or a place a quarterback. I agree,

658
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I agree, But how much has Dak. Right, then, how

659
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: much can Dak give you? Like he gone better? Can

660
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: he throw the ball down as is he completing passes?

661
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Because again, you look at what the production of these

662
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: offense has been and it's all zeke zix ZIXI. Yes,

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Dak will give you some here and there that are

664
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Speaker 1: really good, but just overall, yeah, but I'll put it

665
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Speaker 1: to you like this. So if that's if you're going

666
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: to use that thought process, then you're telling me that

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00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: this year, if Dak would have gone down out, Cooper

668
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Rush could have done the same thing that Dak did

669
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: and still got them to the playoffs. Is that what

670
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: you're saying? Probably not? Okay, what's what's the well? But

671
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I think that Number one, I think

672
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: that Dak will be a better player next year than

673
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: he was this year because I think he is a

674
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: better player as he keeps going. But even at that,

675
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean Rod Smith has to be your guy, right.

676
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I think there are other running backs that you can get,

677
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: and finding another quarterback is not the same finding another

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00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: running I'm just gonna say, if you're gonna use that example,

679
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: if Cooper Rush is not gonna do that, rod Smith

680
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: isn't leading the league in Russia. But but but my point

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Speaker 1: is to rEFInd the receivers. To find a replacement for

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00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: ro for rod Smith is a lot easier than finding

683
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: a replacement Dak Prescott or a great question. But I

684
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: you know Jerry is, you know has the money he

685
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: has because he's never just had to settle that he's greedy.

686
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: He's I'll take it all, so he's he's not gonna

687
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: limit to three. But but I love the argument's sake,

688
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: and I would go Cooper, Zeke and d law Uh.

689
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Those would be my three I would try to get

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Speaker 1: because you like because you say, well, good luck, good

691
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: luck with you, because you want to sign that good

692
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: luck to you. Honestly, there's no but there is no

693
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Speaker 1: Tirio signed back. Easy easy, easy, absolutely, because if you

694
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Speaker 1: give him a quarter if you give me a quarterback,

695
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: if you give me a quarterback that in his first

696
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: three years in the NFL has gone to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: two of those three years has been the Pro Bowl,

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Speaker 1: two of those three years won the division, won the

699
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: division two of those three years. I'm gonna say that's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback worth developing and continuing to see where he goes,

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Speaker 1: say the runner helped you win the division. I get

702
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: all that, but I still say, if that's didn't do that,

703
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: then you could have thrown whatever quarterback in there. You

704
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: would have been fine. And I don't think that's the case. Well, no,

705
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: I agree on on signing him if you can, But

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Speaker 1: the question is gonna come down to how much because

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00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: you just you just read the sheet from the agent.

708
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: The agent just printed out. You know, when he goes

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00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: into help, he was like, all right, we've won the

710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: division B. Yeah, and then they're gonna come back, and

711
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: but it's like how how much? And that's gonna be

712
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: the question there. Does he get the money? That's the max?

713
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: But you know that's that's the thing about the NFL.

714
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: You don't get paid what you're supposed to get paid.

715
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: You get paid whatever the market dictates you're gonna get paid.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that you had some quarterbacks last year

717
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: that got paid and they're not that good. Yeah, seventeen millions, yes,

718
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Kingdom eighteen. Ryan tanney Hill nineteen two. I'm thinking about

719
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: the who the cousins. What was cousins deal? Oh cousins

720
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: is he's at twenty eight millions? Right? So you don't

721
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: think that Dak is gonna be his agent's gonna walk

722
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 1: in there and say, hey, that guy got paid twenty

723
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: eight million. Our guys, bet Derrek car just got his bonus.

724
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: His contract guaranteed nineteen millions going going into the season.

725
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's changed, but going into the season,

726
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: three of the five highest paid quarterbacks in the league

727
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: did not have a winning record. Only Matt Ryan did,

728
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: and the other one was Jimmy Garrappola, who was seven

729
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: and oh who's now seven and one. We'll see he's

730
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: still you know. But the Car Stafford and I think Cousins,

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00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: they do not have winning records. And I don't believe

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: either one of them has won a playoff game. So

733
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: now you got that under decks, you know, belt. So

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Speaker 1: I do think signing him is going to be gonna

735
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: be a little bit harder, you know, because the jury

736
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: is still somewhat out on what he can be as

737
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: far in certain offenses. If you're gonna pay the money,

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00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: I just you gotta you gotta play him the way.

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00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this question based on what

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: you currently have on this team. Um, and let's put

741
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: aside whatever you think of the coaching Let's assume for

742
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: a second that coaching, either this coach or another coach

743
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: that would come in and be named later, that they

744
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: would be give you everything you need from a coaching standpoint.

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00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: Is dak press Gott good enough to win a championship?

746
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: M I don't know, And I guess if you say

747
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: you don't know, then you don't need I was about

748
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: to say, you don't need to pay him if if

749
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: there's if there's a hint of doubt in your mind. Okay,

750
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: so what's your what's your answer that question? Oh? I

751
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: would have paid the quarterback. But I'm saying, do you

752
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to win a champions I do?

753
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: I do? I do. But but if you're But if

754
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: you're if I think with the right coaching, you definitely can.

755
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Are we going up against New England? Like? Yeah, if

756
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: that's always the killer, right, if we cannot play them,

757
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: then maybe I can win Philadelphia. I don't think. I

758
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: do think you can win. I mean, he's proven you

759
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: can win. But but I don't want to be in

760
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: the anti Dad. No, No, you're not. You're not. You're not.

761
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, though I've lived that

762
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: like you lived it, with me. You guys all lived

763
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: it with me. He's better than that. I think he's

764
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: he's a Romo. The question always was was Romo good enough?

765
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: And he he never was. But I think, okay, that

766
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: was also about other pieces. And that's my point, Like

767
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: everything has to line up like Falls. Yes, Falls won

768
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: a championship, but Falls was good enough with the other

769
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: pieces they had around him, with a defense, with severe

770
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: like all those things matter. So I think if you

771
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: get the right pieces around him, I think enough to win,

772
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: good enough to win. And I don't think you can

773
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: just say you can just go out and grab a

774
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's gonna be good enough to win a championship.

775
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Look at like Ward. He has all the pedigree, he

776
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: had a great defense, and he couldn't win a championship.

777
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: That is, it's just a bad evaluation of a quarterback. Again,

778
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: everybody had him. Say no, everybody, that's the problem. You

779
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: run into this, that's the thing. You run into this.

780
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: You look at this and you say, and I was

781
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: just sitting there looking at these names. Okay, just real

782
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: humor me. Here of the guys are going to get

783
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: the next contract, who do you feel the most comfortable

784
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: about Mayfield, Darnald Trubisky, golf Wins. Who do you feel

785
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: the best offense, because he's already done, like I've seen

786
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: him play really well. Wins is the one once again

787
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Mayfield Darnald Trubisky Golf Wins. I think once Ah Trubisky Trubisky,

788
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Speaker 1: How are you really Tampas? Tampas in the same situation

789
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston right now? Yeah, I mean they're they're

790
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: looking at their quarterban. Dallas is in the same spot

791
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: they're look they're The only difference is Dallas didn't have

792
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: to pay their quarterback like these teams you're paying these

793
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: guys that I just mentioned right now, Yeah, they had

794
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: to pay these cats. I mean, Dallas didn't have to

795
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: pay there. I've seen Trubisky play in January. I have

796
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: not seen Wins play in January. Yeah, but seeing all

797
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: this stuff, but he hasn't stayed healthy with as falling

798
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: off on everybody. I just think he needs to He

799
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: just needs to learn, like he needs to play and

800
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: get experienced and be because what killed him this year

801
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: was the fact that he when teams took away his

802
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: coach in his headset, We'll take that away from him.

803
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: I would if I'm if I'm his coaches this offseason,

804
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, all we're gonna do is sit around

805
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: and just look at different scenarios and you're gonna have

806
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: to just figure out what you would watch. That's experience.

807
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be fine. He will be a

808
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: great quarterback. I really DA's biggest weakness. What's the one

809
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: thing that hurts Dak Prescott more than anything? Accuracy? Think

810
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: it's accuracy well and also making decisions like quick decision

811
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: looking at what he has on the field, And I

812
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if quick decisions is what

813
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: I would attribute to him. I think a lot of

814
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: times I don't know if it's that he's not making

815
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: quick decision as much as he's waiting for things to happen,

816
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: that he waits too long for him to happen than

817
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: just taking what's available to him. Okay, what's his biggest strength? Strength? Strength? Now,

818
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: the biggest strength, take hits. He can run. He's tough

819
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: as nails and mentally, mentally and physically, and those things

820
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: matter because he just has this will, Like he's resilient.

821
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: And here's another thing. Who's calling the plays in the

822
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: two minute offense, that's when he's good. Yeah, and he

823
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: calls him. He called him. You know, Romo did the

824
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: same thing. They were really good when they're two minute offense.

825
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: And so the whole about making decisions thaying I'm kind

826
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: of with you there, but when it comes to two

827
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: minute offense, he's making. But when they play in certain

828
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: routes and this is a play you're gonna play, and

829
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: that that is in his mind. So you see him

830
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: hesitate when the play isn't working out how it's supposed

831
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: to and somebody's covering a guy that he's planning on

832
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: throwing the ball too. Right, then that becomes a problem

833
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: because he can't adjust as quickly as you would want

834
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: him to do. You think you can win a Super

835
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: Bowl with a quarterback that plays with guts and determination

836
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: and toughness. And I know it's a different is that

837
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: not Bradshaw? Yeah, it's an accurate I was. I was

838
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: with a guy that wasn't really accurate, but he was tough. Yeah, god,

839
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: he was. I think it matters. I mean he lined

840
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: up every snap, but we had players around him. Yeah, yeah,

841
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: players around him. See that's where I think if if, if,

842
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 1: if Dak Prescott fails, it's gonna because the front office

843
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: failed him. It's not because of Dak Prescott. It's because

844
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: the front office failed he going back to the to

845
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: the running back situation. And I know it's a different

846
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Speaker 1: era now, but you know, if you've been kind of

847
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Speaker 1: burned by something before, I don't even know if burned

848
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Speaker 1: is the right word. But Jerry, you know, with with

849
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Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, you know, he was he was trying to

850
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Speaker 1: fight that. He was being stubborn about giving him that deal.

851
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Didn't want to finally gave Mary and Barber money the right, right,

852
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about best in the league, yea, and

853
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: the guy holding out and all that, and you know,

854
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Speaker 1: a second contract. But you know, is that gonna get

855
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: you in trouble if if you if you, if you

856
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: play that way, because they didn't do that with DeMarco Murray.

857
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, Murray had led the league and you know,

858
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: set records and all that, and they were like they

859
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: were pretty stubborn about what they wanted to do. Fool's goal,

860
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: Giants game, Dak no running game, fools goal, fools goal.

861
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: But we saw at the Giants when you guys were

862
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: at the metalands was that a fools goal? He had

863
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: no running game there, He kind of shoulder the load. Honestly,

864
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: What one of those is that? Like I say, is

865
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: that one of the things I'm most interested in saying

866
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Speaker 1: this next year is with a different play caller, is

867
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: he willing to give Dak some games? Because that's also

868
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: a thing that can extend my that can make me

869
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: one extend ze Kellyott. Yeah, if you're not relying on

870
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: him for ninety eighty percent whatever you said of your offense,

871
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: and you're actually letting your quarterback actually go out there

872
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: and in some games you're just gonna air it out,

873
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: then I feel a little bit better about preserving the

874
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: life of my running back. So I feel like I

875
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: can pay him and keep that kind of production for

876
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: a longer period of time. So I actually want to

877
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Speaker 1: see And I don't think it's fool's goal. I don't

878
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: think what he was able to do in that game.

879
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't the circumstances. He wasn't playing the Patriots

880
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, but it was an NFL game that

881
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: team they wanted to win, and maybe they it was

882
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: the last game. It didn't matter a lot to them.

883
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: But NFL teams want to win, I think, and he

884
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: played when I didn't played it. I thought a phenomenal

885
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: game throwing the ball around without a running back, with

886
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: running back got his run. And I think they played

887
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: that game with a sense of they wanted to win

888
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, but we know it didn't actually count

889
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: for what they were trying to But at the end

890
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: of the day, I think just playing with a little

891
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: more freedom, I think he felt more freedom of like

892
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: experimenting certain things and doing certain things too, or that

893
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: relieved or released a little bit of the pressure off

894
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: his back. Well. And also I don't I don't think

895
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: for a second that he didn't he wasn't proven something

896
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: to the coaches as well. Larcus Lawrence is sitting there,

897
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: he's out of the game, and and and Zeke is

898
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: definitely out of the game and all that. Oh, but

899
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm not out of the game. Yeah, okay, you know

900
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Speaker 1: you think. I actually think it's the opposite. I think

901
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't want to come out of

902
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: game because I want to show all those coaches. Everybody

903
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: may not think that, they may think that we need

904
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: to run the ball all the time. I want to

905
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: show everybody, guess what I can do this too, Like

906
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: I can throw the ball. We can win games when

907
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: we're throwing the ball. Well, either way, I mean, he

908
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: it was. I called it the play of the sea,

909
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: the best play of the season, regardless of it mattered

910
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Speaker 1: or not. I thought it was his best throw to Beasley.

911
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was Beasley's best play. And he could

912
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: have run it probably. I don't know. If he gets

913
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: fifteen would have been he would have been like thirteen.

914
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: He would have been a tough quarterback run over somebody guy, Yeah, yeah,

915
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Speaker 1: you do it. Yeah, but uh and body else was

916
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917
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Speaker 1: that he might might have hit. But you know, he

918
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919
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920
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921
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922
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: are open. But in the press box we see that

923
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: that can't see that. Yeah, let's go ahead and take

924
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Speaker 1: exactly where it counts. Probably where's Tommy John's out there? Huh?

984
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Speaker 1: That's right. All right. Well we talked about dak Now

985
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: just staying looney, let's stay, let's stay. End the quarterback topic. Okay,

986
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: the backups something not as exciting but obviously very needed. Uh,

987
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: if you still have Cooper Rush and Mike White out

988
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: of these two, and there were a lot of people

989
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: who were on the bendwagon for Cooper Rush. That was

990
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: one of the I would do the chance Cooper Rush. Yeah,

991
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: But then Mike White got here and a lot of

992
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: people were, and then I was, and then I was

993
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: doing that. Mike White, Yeah, White, Mike White, Yeah, you

994
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: were going for Mike White. So out of these two quarterbacks,

995
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: who do you see the most capable of progressing and

996
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: getting better, improving during training camp and becoming the right

997
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: backup quarterback for Dike Prescott. I'm gonna go before Brian

998
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: goes in because he's I know, he's going in on

999
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: Mike White, and I don't I don't disagree. I think

1000
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: they're getting a really good teacher here in John Kitten. Now, um,

1001
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: and I know this might sound funny, but I mean,

1002
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: have you've seen his son. His son's not really that tall.

1003
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: He's a you know, younger guy, but but he played

1004
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: college quarterback, you know. I mean he's getting taught at home. Um,

1005
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: I think Mike White's got more tools than Cooper rush s.

1006
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: White was drafted and he's got you know, he's gonna

1007
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: get stronger and all that, and he's gonna have a

1008
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: guy who's been there, done it, and and and he

1009
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: is a really good teacher. I think Mike White's gonna

1010
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: take a I'm not gonna say Cooper has aling. I'm

1011
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: not gonna say that, but I just think that Mike

1012
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: White has a chance to be better and Kitney can

1013
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: help him get there. He's absolutely right. I don't need

1014
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: to say anything more than what he just said. Yes,

1015
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. That's what Brian improves. No, No, I

1016
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm excited for Mike White this training camp.

1017
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: I was disappointed because I thought Mike White it's a

1018
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: lot like my Dalton Schultz analogy. Dalton Schultz I thought

1019
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: after watching him at Stanford, I thought he would just

1020
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: come right in, be a blocker, catch the ball, do

1021
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: all those things. He was none of that. And I'm like,

1022
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: when what was I thinking? You know, and Mike White

1023
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: is a little bit of the same thing. And I

1024
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: saw Mike White in the preseason, I'm going he looks

1025
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: like a baby. He looks so young, a little baby.

1026
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I can ask this question though, and you guys, you

1027
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: guys obviously watch a little more of practice during preseason.

1028
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: I do, Brian, you's gonna ask some film that you

1029
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: watch from time and time it tell me did you

1030
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: see because I have not seen I don't recall seeing

1031
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: at one moment last year during the preseason a moment

1032
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: from either one of those guys that made me say absolutely,

1033
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: because you think back to the guy the quarterbacks that

1034
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: had the team, yeah, the year before he was and

1035
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: that's the thing, like you look at you look at Romo,

1036
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Speaker 1: Romna had those moments. Romo wasn't great, but Romnna had

1037
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Speaker 1: moments that made you say, oh gosh, wow, that got

1038
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: played a little bit. And and Dak obviously his training

1039
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Speaker 1: camp that would I mean, his season, that was just

1040
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Speaker 1: the whole different level. But my point is, when you're

1041
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Speaker 1: talking about those kinds of guys, those unherolded guys, I

1042
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: think at some point you gotta see something. And so

1043
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Speaker 1: right now, to answer your question, I know this is

1044
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Speaker 1: gonna sound like being on the fence, and maybe I

1045
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Speaker 1: am at this point. Honestly, I honestly don't see I

1046
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything yet that suggests to me that either

1047
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: one of them is going to be your next guy.

1048
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Speaker 1: That's fair. And if I'm the Cowboys this year, I

1049
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Speaker 1: have a fourth guy in my camp that is a

1050
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. And if I don't see one of those

1051
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Speaker 1: two guys take an appreciable step, that shows me they

1052
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Speaker 1: got something. I'm going into this year saying that Dak's

1053
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Speaker 1: gonna be my starter and I'm going to have a

1054
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Speaker 1: veteran backup, and I'm not developing these guys necessarily. I

1055
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: want a veteran backup so that if he goes down,

1056
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: I feel good about where I am. That sounds great.

1057
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do that. Maybe not. I'm

1058
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: just saying that's what I would because the veteran guy

1059
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: they have is not taken, is not on the salary cap,

1060
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's really why John John and he

1061
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't want to take reps away from the young guys,

1062
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: and anything that that veteran's gonna be able to give him,

1063
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, from a standpoint of teaching and helping Dak

1064
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: is something that but I'm not. That's not why I'm

1065
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: bringing him in. I'm bringing him in because I want

1066
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: my quarterback. And you talk about this a lot. I

1067
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: want my quarterback, Dak Prescott, to be able to run

1068
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: the ball when he feels like he needs to run

1069
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: the ball. Now, when I do that, I'm exposing him

1070
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: to injury, which means that I'm taking the chance that

1071
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: if I got Mike White or whoever, that Cooper Rush,

1072
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: whoever there might have to play this year, and if

1073
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: they have to play, I would rather have it unless again,

1074
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: unless I see something during this preseason that suggests they're

1075
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: ready for that role. I thought the Cowboys dodged a

1076
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: huge bullet this year by not having to do that

1077
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: because I don't think either one of those guys was

1078
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: ready to play yet. Yeah, if you look at the

1079
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: names of those guys, So you're talking about Colt McCoy,

1080
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: Drew Stanton, see, Mike Glennon. See I mean, I mean

1081
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm talking about these are like, these are your run

1082
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: of the mill backup guys. You know Teddy Bridgewater six

1083
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: million dollars. Yeah, you know that that was gonna be

1084
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: fought in the NFL next year. But yeah, but but

1085
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: it's like aj mccaron's of the world. Uh, Matt Shop

1086
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: has always been a high price guy for a backup role.

1087
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick, I

1088
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: would take him. I think that a Ryan Fitzpatrick could

1089
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: win me a couple of games. I don't think. I

1090
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: don't think if based on what they were coming into

1091
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: this year, I don't think you would have. None of

1092
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: us probably would have thought Cowboys had much chance to

1093
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: win games this year if either one of the two

1094
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: guys that were on this roster outside of Deck were

1095
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: forced into play. Well, you felt like that maybe they

1096
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: could win because of the running game, but not because

1097
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Yeah, with all the other things they

1098
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: had going on. Receivers with the receiver by committee, if

1099
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: that went the season, I would you might not have

1100
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: won it. You might not have won You mentioned the

1101
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: Schultz thing to me, White, Mike White and Cooper Rush

1102
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: is like Schultz and Jarwin or I don't need them both,

1103
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need both of them to do that.

1104
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: I need one of you to step up and be

1105
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: better because I got other ways that I got Chill

1106
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: up the position. So now if they don't resign Swaying.

1107
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: I need both of them, and they might do that.

1108
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: And that's the tough thing with Swaying his injuries. You

1109
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: don't do you weigh that in. So you're saying you

1110
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: would take one of those two guys and then you

1111
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: would still get the veteran and you'd have kind of

1112
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: those three, you'd have that mix. I think so. I agree,

1113
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I think so. And see what happens at camp, and

1114
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: see if one of those guys does step up, if

1115
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: they steps up to the point where they think they're

1116
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: number two. They yet both of them. See that's what

1117
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: That's what was so disappointing, because I thought Mike White

1118
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: would just clearly outplay Cooper Rush. And it wouldn't that

1119
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: neither one of them. I'm watching those games in the preseason.

1120
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Why I love Mike White, but no, I get it.

1121
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: I know, But who would you say is the most accurate? Well,

1122
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: neither one of them were very I mean Cooper Rush

1123
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: was accurate his first year. Second year, the ball was

1124
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: all over the park. And you know, and I've seen

1125
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: Mike White at Western Kentucky throw the ball well that

1126
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: he gets here and I'm like me, it looks like

1127
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: me out there throwing. I would like to believe that

1128
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: Mike White is more accurate. I would like to believe

1129
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: that just from what I've seen in college, you know,

1130
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: in the college ranks and stuff like that. But man,

1131
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean that was disappointing. That to me was really

1132
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: really disappointing because I thought that Mike White would come

1133
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: in here and just clearly outplay him. Yeah, but they didn't.

1134
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: And it's almost like Cooper Rush got a little skittish too.

1135
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: It's like he backed up, like he's like, oh wait,

1136
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: they drafted a guy, and then his game with the crap.

1137
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: And that's the disappointing part when you see someone regress

1138
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: rather than and progress over time. And it's yeah, we're

1139
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: watching some of his plays right now, but yeah, you know,

1140
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: he looks like to me watching this as he looks

1141
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: like Romo Romo College and even some cavalry. I mean,

1142
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: if you're not watching this, like I can go back

1143
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: and watch it after the fact. But when he was

1144
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: at the in the red zone, this is very Romo issue.

1145
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: At the about the eight yard line, he rolled right

1146
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: and he pointed to the outside receiver to go deep,

1147
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: and he threw it across the middle to the other

1148
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: other guy. Yeah, you know that's what rom the play

1149
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: against with Terrence Williams with the with the in Seattle

1150
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: when yeah, he pointed at Jason pointed right at the safety.

1151
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: But here throwing over here. It looks pretty I mean,

1152
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, they all look. Romo is kind of

1153
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: he sets the bar to the point where like you

1154
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: don't ever want to say, well, Rush is not gonna

1155
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: be anything, and Mike White's not gonna be anything, because

1156
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: guarantee you we all were talking, none of us thought

1157
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Romo would be yeah the guy, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Yeah.

1158
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: Now I wanted to we we don't need to get

1159
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: into depth because we're running out of time, but just

1160
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of draft talk and some of y'all's

1161
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: priority based on Cowboys have different positions of need right now,

1162
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: so you have multiple choices, very diverse here. So I

1163
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: wanted to go and run the room and go through

1164
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: what it would be your main position of need that

1165
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: you would want to address, whether it's in free agency

1166
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: or the draft. What is your top priority right now?

1167
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: Top priority? Yes, I have three of them. Well, I

1168
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: have three priorities, And to be honest with you, I

1169
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: think the way the Cowboys are constructed right now. I'm

1170
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: going to take the best to pay available player at

1171
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: either of those three with my first pick, and that

1172
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: fifty eight that would be backup running back, that would

1173
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 1: be defensive tackle, and that would be safety one pick one.

1174
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: So if I had to choose one, you're sitting there now,

1175
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: you have safety away because that'll be cleared up before

1176
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I'm gonna take care of that. You

1177
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: can do that. Yeah, And honestly, I think I think

1178
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: i'd probably do that. I'd probably go defensive tackle. I

1179
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: think that's the one i'd probably be. I'd probably I'd

1180
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: probably think it's my top priority. Yeah, I've said that

1181
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: one as well um on an other show. We've done it,

1182
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: and I do think that tight end is up there

1183
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: though for me to really Yeah, I mean I want,

1184
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: you know, not a believer in Jarwin at this point. No,

1185
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: why he showed you somethin at the end of the year.

1186
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: You're not You're not. I'm not expecting I'm not. I'm

1187
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: not expecting him to be Jason Witten in his prime.

1188
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: But I do think this offense functions and actually can

1189
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: function quite efficiently without having a tight end of that caliber.

1190
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think of that as a high priority.

1191
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: I think I think you can make this offense work

1192
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: well with a tight end that kind of plays his role.

1193
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: Now where I would upgrade as far as the tight

1194
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: end position is, I'd go and get myself a blocking

1195
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: tight end that I can if you can get that

1196
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: guy later in the draft. That's not a one that

1197
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: you have to spend a lot of capital. I would,

1198
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: But then you also have to remind yourself, like how

1199
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: important tight end is for Dak. Dak leans on the

1200
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 1: tight end position a lot, and and it hasn't worked

1201
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: out this year, but that's a key position for what

1202
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: he's able to do on the field. But but if

1203
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back to that New York game, do

1204
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: you not want to give a little credit right there

1205
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: to Jarwin and what maybe he can be if they

1206
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: were going to open up the offense a little bit more.

1207
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: I think we've got good backup tight ends. I think

1208
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: we've gone backwards with the position. I still need a guy.

1209
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: I got a good I got some number twos. I

1210
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind a number one tight end, which I think

1211
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: you'd have to get in maybe second round. They haven't

1212
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: had great luck with second round tight, you're not resigning

1213
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: h swim. You know. It's interesting by Derek's thought, though,

1214
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: if you draft a running back, you've kind of at

1215
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: two fifty eight, you've kind of cast a lot for

1216
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with Ezekiel Elliott. Haven't you know?

1217
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: What you've done is you've given yourself some leverage. Now,

1218
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, that you're going too that negotiation

1219
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: and you can be a lot stronger in your opinion.

1220
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm just saying though, like, no, no,

1221
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: he is. The thing about leverage is all always about options.

1222
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: The more options you've got, the more leverage you got,

1223
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: right right, what would be your position? Brain? I just

1224
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: see there's a I see there's an issue. By the way,

1225
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: thanks appreciate that. I think there. I think that they

1226
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: have issues at defensive tackle, I really do. I mean,

1227
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: and and this is I don't you know the human

1228
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: log was outstanding Antoine Woods Collins is banged up. You

1229
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: know how healthy is he? Every year? Now it seems

1230
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: like and in next year the reoccurring. So yeah, next

1231
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: year he's done. So yeah, I think I go deef,

1232
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: He's not He's not a guy you resigned probably doesn't

1233
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: look that way. And and you also lost um, which

1234
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: is probably a good thing. But David Evering's not going

1235
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: to be a part of this. Are you sure? Ones

1236
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: are very concerned all this. I know you're working out

1237
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: right now and getting ready for the offseason cowboy fit,

1238
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: But which you know? I mean that just goes to

1239
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: that Billy Blanks. Yea, Bill? Is that the guy Billy Blanks.

1240
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I've come home like four in the morning. You know,

1241
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: when you're sitting down, when you're eating Jack in the box.

1242
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how the story come on

1243
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. We're talking about Tybo and

1244
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Billy Blanks. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. You

1245
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: come home at four in the morning, and then they

1246
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: got full contact karate on or something like that. ESPN.

1247
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: You're flipping around and you're eating your Jack in the

1248
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: box because you've had too many Miller lights. And then

1249
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: Billy Blanks is trying to sell you some Tybo stuff,

1250
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, bouncing around there, and you end up buying

1251
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: the seven disc package. Did you know? I flip over

1252
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: the next channel and buy it. The greatest of the eighties,

1253
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: the best Shark Tank ever was the one with Billy

1254
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Blanks Junior. I guess that's the best one. I don't

1255
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: know even watched Shark Tank. It's pretty good show. It's

1256
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: the best one. Damon like walks off the set, goes

1257
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: and finds him in the back room and actually explains

1258
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: the deal or something like that. It's really good. It's

1259
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: like one of the best ones. Have you ever seen

1260
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: that one? No, I don't think so. I've seen a

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Speaker 1: lot of those episodes. It's a good one. She watches

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Speaker 1: that the guy what's the painting guy? The guy with

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Speaker 1: the afro? What's that guy's name that got talked? Didn't

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Speaker 1: he didn't? He got voice. I'm gonna make some Willie, Hey, sire,

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Speaker 1: I hate to I hate to say, we're running out

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Speaker 1: of time here, but I don't wanted to kind of

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Speaker 1: care over what you just said. But um, this is

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Speaker 1: our first show obviously since since last week when when

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Speaker 1: Wade Wilson passed away, and we all have been we

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Speaker 1: were all here with him and a couple of different stints.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable guy, and and it's really a sad situation. So

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Speaker 1: I know all of our I don't speak for everybody here,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure I do and you should. Yeah, absolute

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, he definitely. Our thoughts and prayers go

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Speaker 1: out to him and his family. He's he's one of

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Speaker 1: the classiest guys that's ever come through here. Sticks is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why, the main reason why you

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Speaker 1: have Doc Prescott here. He was a great evaluator. Well,

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Speaker 1: I worked with him for a long time in those

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Speaker 1: rooms and stuff. You always answered questions, always was prepared,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just a great easy going guy. It's

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Speaker 1: a shame, you know, it's sixties years old. Gold work

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Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, easy going, he really was. You know.

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Speaker 1: He had some medical issues with diabetes and things like that,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's just life, you know. You just

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Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed tomorrow. And in his case though, it's

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Speaker 1: a shame that his life ended this quickly, because he

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Speaker 1: is a super, super super guy. All right. Well, I

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Speaker 1: mean you did a great job hosting that kid. Yeah, kid,

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Speaker 1: thanks Dad. All right, you can take you take us

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Speaker 1: a compliment. You don't have to just be a jerk

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Speaker 1: about it. You called my kid, I called your dad.

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Speaker 1: Let's run with that. I'm not your dad. Both accurate, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm closer to Bennett, are you yeah? Okay, now you're

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Speaker 1: offending me. Now you need to stop talking, and now

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Speaker 1: we might cancel the periscope later this afternoon. You need

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Speaker 1: those numbers, trust me, all right. Well, thank you so much, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you Virtunity, and thanks Brian for being here for

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Speaker 1: Derek Kingle Technique and Brian brought us. And this has

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Speaker 1: been Cowboys Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This

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Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.