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Speaker 1: Wow, what is Welcome to another edition of the NFL

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, MG, Marcus Grant.

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Speaker 1: Still fully vaccinated, still dodging variance, blah blah blah, neo matrix.

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Speaker 1: You know how the whole thing goes? Uh, fun show

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Speaker 1: for you. As we get closer to the start of

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Speaker 1: Week one, producer Justin is alongside Michael F. Florio is here.

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Speaker 1: In Florio, I asked you this before, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you this again. Please Can the Mets beat the

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Speaker 1: Giants once? Just just once? That's all I want, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: I I was so disappointed last night, and then I

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Speaker 1: have to remind myself, like I willingly choose each night

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Speaker 1: to sit down and watch the Mets play baseball. I

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Speaker 1: have no one to blame but myself at this point.

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Speaker 1: It's awful. I just you know, look, man, that the

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Speaker 1: Giants have been really good all year long, and I'm

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Speaker 1: at the point now where I just don't assume. I

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Speaker 1: just assume they're not gonna lose anymore. Like the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year. I just kind of figure they're just

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Speaker 1: gonna win out, um, you know. And it's it's weird

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Speaker 1: that there's panic mild panic in Dodger Nation, Like they

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Speaker 1: have eighty wins, they have the second best record of baseball.

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Speaker 1: But there's like, you know, handwringing about what's going on

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Speaker 1: because the Giants are so damn good right now. I

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Speaker 1: went to a game the other day and had to

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Speaker 1: explain to my wife, like the Dodgers don't She was like,

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Speaker 1: how are they the best team if they're not in

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Speaker 1: first place? And I was like, no, no no, no, they're

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Speaker 1: the best. They have the most talent. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know how the Giants keep doing this. So I still

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Speaker 1: believe that you guys are gonna win out in the end.

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Speaker 1: But I have no idea what's going on with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Nobody, not even the Giants, not even diehard

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Speaker 1: Giants fans expected this. Uh And here they are with

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Speaker 1: the best record in baseball and we're in you know,

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Speaker 1: late August, um, you know, and they're they're with a

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Speaker 1: real legitimate shot to win the National League West and

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Speaker 1: who knows how far they get. So sorry, I'm just

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Speaker 1: like I'm having an existential crisis because like, if the

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Speaker 1: Giants win the World Series this year, like the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: win it last year, and all the Giants fans like

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Speaker 1: it has an asterisk because it was a short season

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Speaker 1: and if they come back and win it this year,

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be miserable for us, Like it's

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Speaker 1: just going to be miserable. So I I hate It's

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Speaker 1: not even like the Giants win out and grabbed a

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Speaker 1: bunch of really good like they're doing the weirdest group

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Speaker 1: of players that, like, for a best team in baseball,

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Speaker 1: it's had like career years from guys in their mid thirties. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. What is a Lamont Wade Jr.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's amazing to me, but yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: a good baseball team. I just have to live with it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hope the Dodgers, for my sake, figure it out. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about here. A couple

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Speaker 1: all good, all right. So that gives us to actual

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Speaker 1: trade with the Patriots to bring Sony Michelle from New

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Speaker 1: England to Los Angeles. In exchange, the Patriots get a

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Speaker 1: you look at it. Darryl Henderson, who's dealing with a

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Speaker 1: have a whole topic about, uh, you know, the Broncos

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Speaker 1: haven't named their starter yet, which one do we want

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Speaker 1: to see? Who's gonna help everybody out? And just as

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Speaker 1: I was about to email this thing out, I saw

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Speaker 1: that Vic Fangio had made the announcement that Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: is going to be the starter in week one for

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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. I said, thank you, Vick for doing

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Speaker 1: this now so I didn't have to scrub this later

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Speaker 1: and go back to it. So thumbs up to you

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Speaker 1: for that. I know there's sort of mixed feelings about Teddy.

439
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Speaker 1: I know Broncos fans feel like it's a safe and

440
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Speaker 1: sort of boring choice I think for fantasy. I don't know,

441
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Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like a lot of

442
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Speaker 1: people feel like, well, this is a guy who we

443
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Speaker 1: know can get the ball out on time and on

444
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Speaker 1: target because we like those wide receivers. I mean, for you,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel does does Teddy Bridgewater make you

446
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Speaker 1: feel better about the Jerry Judys and Courtland Suttons and

447
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: those guys in Denver. I get the Broncos fans pain

448
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: because you're chasing Mahomes and Justin Herbert and then guys

449
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: you need is the upside, and I think Drew Lock

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Speaker 1: is the upside. But for fantasy, I love that Teddy

451
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Speaker 1: bridge Order is the starter. It's what you said, Marcus,

452
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: he is. He's not gonna try to do too much.

453
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Speaker 1: He's just gonna get the ball to his receivers, which

454
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Speaker 1: is what we want in fantasy. And as someone who

455
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Speaker 1: has been hyping up Jerry Judy now for the better

456
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Speaker 1: part of the last couple of months, I am ecstatic.

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Speaker 1: Like I have Jerry Judy ranked very high. He's nearly

458
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Speaker 1: in my top twenty wide receivers. He's my wide receiver

459
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Speaker 1: twenty two actually, And the reason I've been so high

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Speaker 1: on him is because I did think Teddy Bridgewater would

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Speaker 1: make more starts. And my logical was if Teddy isn't starting,

462
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Speaker 1: that means Drew Lock took the next step and is

463
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Speaker 1: playing better or which only helps Jerry Judy. But the

464
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Speaker 1: thing about Judy is last year he showed us that

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Speaker 1: he could play in the NFL. Like, let's not forget

466
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Speaker 1: that he was most people's top water receiver coming into

467
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Speaker 1: that draft class. I know Justin Jefferson and Ceede Lamb

468
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Speaker 1: are getting a lot of the hype now. But Judy

469
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Speaker 1: is a very good player in his own right. He

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Speaker 1: is one of the best route runners in football. He

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Speaker 1: creates space. Uh. The issue for him last year it

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Speaker 1: was a lot of his targets. It was like something

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Speaker 1: around thirty percent of his targets were just deemed uncatchable.

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Speaker 1: And that's on Drew Lock, that's not on Jerry Judy.

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Speaker 1: And I think this year we've already seen Judy in

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Speaker 1: the preseason show us what he can do after the catch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has two catches in preseason and they've

478
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Speaker 1: each gone for over thirty yards, most of which have

479
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Speaker 1: come after the catch. So that's what you need Teddy for,

480
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: right Like Teddy is just gonna rely on timing and

481
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Speaker 1: position and getting the ball out quickly and letting Jerry

482
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Speaker 1: Judy make plays. I think Drew Lock was a better

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Speaker 1: fit for Court and sutton Um and I've been lowering

484
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Speaker 1: on something because he is still not playing there saying

485
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Speaker 1: he could take a few weeks into the regular season

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Speaker 1: just to feel right. I think Jerry Judy takes over

487
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Speaker 1: and as sends as this team's number one wide receiver

488
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Speaker 1: and I'm willing to pay up for him in fantasy

489
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Speaker 1: as well. The way I'm looking at this situation is, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I was interested in drafting either one

491
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Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks, Like I I didn't have an interest

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Speaker 1: in Drew lock particularly and and Teddy Bridgewater is you know,

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Speaker 1: he's sort of a you know, if if if I

494
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Speaker 1: don't have any other options in the matchup is right,

495
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: maybe I I pick up Bridgewater off the waiver wire

496
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Speaker 1: and plug him in. So, because I don't have an

497
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Speaker 1: interest in playing either one of those quarterbacks, I want

498
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Speaker 1: the guy who I feel like gives those wide receivers

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Speaker 1: the best chance to succeed, and for me, that's Steady Bridgewater.

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I understand Bronco fans pain, um

501
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Speaker 1: which side out? I saw a lot of a lot

502
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Speaker 1: of tweets that said something to the effect of tell

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Speaker 1: me you want to go eight and nine without saying

504
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Speaker 1: you want to go eight and nine, And I mean, one,

505
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Speaker 1: it is kind of funny. But the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is seeing eight and written out there made my

507
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: brain itch because like that's like I'm still sort of

508
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Speaker 1: wrapping my head around like what records are going to

509
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Speaker 1: look like at the end of the season, right, like

510
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Speaker 1: are you I'm used to saying, oh, that's a tin

511
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Speaker 1: and six team, But I'm like, well, wait, are they

512
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a tin and seven team? Are they in

513
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: eleven and six team? You know, like eight and eight?

514
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: You know, like that was fun. We used to joke

515
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Speaker 1: about Jeff Fisher going like, you know, eight and eight

516
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: or like nine and seven, every year, seven and nine,

517
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: Like now it's like nine and eight, eight and not,

518
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I'm still I'm still wrapping my

519
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: head around that hole. My my brain can't compute what

520
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: stats are gonna look like. Like I tweeted, like Mike Evans,

521
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Speaker 1: I don't think this. I think this is gonna be

522
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Speaker 1: the first year he doesn't get two thousand yards. And

523
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Speaker 1: people were like, well, what if you with the extra game,

524
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Speaker 1: He's still not gonna do it, And I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't consider the same game, Like if

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Speaker 1: he gets a thousand yards in his seventeen game, I'm

527
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Speaker 1: still taking that as a victory. Yeah, I know, you know,

528
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Speaker 1: I makes sense, Like, you know, like we talked about,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, who can get to five thousand passing yards? Right,

530
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Speaker 1: and like now everybody's like, oh yeah, my Homes for sure,

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Speaker 1: because like, oh yeah, he's got he's got one extra

532
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Speaker 1: game to do it. So there's multiple who do it, Like,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be weird. Yeah, it is. It's gonna be

534
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Speaker 1: very strange. We're gonna see a lot of records go

535
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Speaker 1: down that are gonna be for the first couple of

536
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Speaker 1: years sort of uh you know, I guess asterisk until

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Speaker 1: we get a a large sample size of seventeen game seasons,

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a lot of these, uh

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Speaker 1: these records sort of like do you think the touchdown

540
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Speaker 1: record gets broken this year? Maybe? Um yeah, that's that's

541
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Speaker 1: very good possibility, Like passing touchdowns, Like I think, yeah,

542
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Speaker 1: I think somebody. I think my Homes could do it.

543
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: I think, uh maybe Josh Allen could do it. Um yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: I think they're a handful of Justin Herbert maybe they're

545
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 1: they're a handful of guys I think that could that

546
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: could probably break that touchdown passing record this year. It's

547
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Speaker 1: gonna be weird if multiple people go for like five

548
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: thousand and fifty like you know numbers exactly, it's gonna

549
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Speaker 1: it's gonna take us some time to get used to um.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of guys who throw the ball a lot, there's

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. He's expected to play at least a limited

552
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Speaker 1: amount in the third preseason game. Uh. To put it kindly,

553
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: the Bengals offense has not been very good so far

554
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: this preseason. I know people love Joe Burrow, and I

555
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: see people saying, well, you know this, this a DP

556
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: dip that he is is taking right now. Maybe a

557
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: good thing for fantasy drafters looking for value, But for you,

558
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Speaker 1: I mean, are you still in? Are you concerned? Where?

559
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Where are you with Joe Burrow right now? I am concerned?

560
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Speaker 1: And I will say he could alleviate those concerns if

561
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 1: he comes out this week and looks good and and

562
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: looks like the knee isn't an issue. But it was

563
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: just like two weeks ago where he was saying that, hey,

564
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Speaker 1: I'm not fully back yet, I haven't worked my way

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00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: fully back yet. And he even said he said, if

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling like this week one, then I'll hit the

567
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: panic button. To me, I'm like, that's scary because I

568
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: have to decide now. I don't have till week one

569
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Speaker 1: to decide if I want to draft you or not.

570
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Speaker 1: So I will admit I have not really been drafting

571
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Speaker 1: a lot of Joe Burrow, and I understand that that

572
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: could at the end of the year be a terrible decision.

573
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Speaker 1: Like he has so many good pass catchers around him,

574
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Speaker 1: and last year when he was healthy, he was throwing

575
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: the ball like forty something times a game. I understand

576
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: what that volume in the town around him could equal.

577
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: But I have like Trevor Lawrence franked ahead of him,

578
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: um I have he to me, Burrow is more of

579
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Speaker 1: a high end QB two and in the one spot

580
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: I did get him. I got him as my second quarterback,

581
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Speaker 1: and I like that a lot more than having him

582
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Speaker 1: as my starter, as someone that I need to rely

583
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Speaker 1: on starting week one. Him saying if I feel this

584
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: way come week one, then I'm going to hit the

585
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: panic button means his hand is at least near the

586
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: panic button, you know, maybe hovering over the panic button.

587
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: Good boy, you know, so that you know that's that's

588
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern. I think for me

589
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: right now, I don't think I've drafted him anywhere, but

590
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: I'm still still taking shots at Tee Higgins and Tyler

591
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: boyd Um because even you know, even when Burrow went down,

592
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: those guys were still seeing targets. So I think even

593
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: worst case scenario, they're gonna throw the ball a lot

594
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: and and you know, those guys are gonna get opportunities.

595
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: But uh, Joe Burrow seeming a little bit unconfident makes

596
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: me a lot of bit unconfident, um, especially in an

597
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: offense that doesn't really have a true identity just right now.

598
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I guess the QB two I'm

599
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm fine with. But this is not where I thought

600
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Speaker 1: we would be. Uh. You know, when we started talking

601
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: about this and say, you know, April or whatever, I

602
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: really thought we would be talking about Burrow being drafted

603
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 1: among the top ten quarterbacks and we would do that

604
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: with confidence. But but here we are almost a September

605
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: and that that hasn't happened yet, So that that's worrisome

606
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: to me. Have you been in on Jamaar Chase or No?

607
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: I haven't, mostly because I just feel like the other

608
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: two guys are better values. Um. You know that's I've

609
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of Tyler Boyd because he seems sort

610
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: of like the forgotten man, and I'm like, he let

611
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: this team of targets last year like, let's not forget

612
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: about him. So I'm with you, and I've never been

613
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: a huge boyd guy, but you're really like you and

614
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: it's just you're right. He is just the better value

615
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: getting him a couple rounds later. Yeah. Um, you know,

616
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: like I said, I think there will be plenty of

617
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: targets to be had. I think those are the three

618
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: main guys that are gonna get them, so I think

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Speaker 1: they're all worthwhile. Um, Jamis Winston I don't think, as

620
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: officially as of yet been named the Week one starter

621
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, but all signs point to him getting

622
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: that gig uh. I think I think sanity has sort

623
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: of prevailed. I think we all knew that Jamis was

624
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: the better of the two quarterbacks, but Sean Payton, wanting

625
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: to prove that he is smarter than everybody else, I think,

626
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: kept trying to make Taysom Hill a thing. So, now

627
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: that it looks like Jamis is going to be the starter,

628
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: are you feeling differently about maybe drafting him than when

629
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: we were still in this this wait and C mode. Yeah,

630
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: because I thought there was a legit chance. Like I

631
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: think that me and you can sit here and confidently

632
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: say Jamis Winston is a better quarterback. I had no

633
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: confidence that Sean Payton was the better quarterback because he

634
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: just loves tasting hill for some reason. But Winston, I mean,

635
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: he could not possibly have looked better than what he

636
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: did this past preseason game one in completion on ten throws,

637
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: too long touchdowns. And I do think you should consider

638
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: drafting Jamis Winston because for me, like when my second quarterback,

639
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: because it's something that I have been doing more this

640
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: year is drafting a second quarterback um and even in

641
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: one quarterback league, but I want someone that has the

642
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: upside of being a potential league winner. Like I am

643
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: not targeting the Derek cars and the Matt Ryan's and

644
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: the big bends. No offense to those guys. I think

645
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: they are safer and they could finish as like low

646
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: m qb ones this year. But I've been targeting like

647
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: two a tongue of Iloa justin fields trade lance, and

648
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: I think Jamis Winston goes into that category as someone

649
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: that has the upside of finishing as a top ten

650
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, maybe even higher. We've seen James do

651
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: it before with good weapons around him, and I know

652
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: that the Saints there, you know, like Marquez Callaway isn't

653
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, but he will get Michael Thomas back. It's point,

654
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: it's more so trusting Sean Payton and his play calling

655
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: and the fact that we saw what Winston could do.

656
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't take a whole lot of past attempts for

657
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: him to have too long touchdowns. So I think his

658
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: upside is worth taking a shot on as a low

659
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: nd QB two because that's where he's going right now. Yeah,

660
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, And I felt like, again, the

661
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: only reason that I was hesitating before was just because

662
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: we didn't know what Sean Payton is going to do.

663
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: And look, I still think, you know, in the back

664
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: of my head, there's still that that the possibility that

665
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: they run a two QB system, right we we talked

666
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: about it earlier with the Patriots and and Mac Jones

667
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton, And there's always a chance that Sean

668
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Payton decides to do a similar thing with Taysom Hill,

669
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: bring him in, you know, when they get close to

670
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: the end zone and let him run the wildcat or

671
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: throw jump passes or whatever madness Sean Payton can concoct um.

672
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: But I think just the idea that Jamis is going

673
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: to be the starter and presumably going to be taking

674
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: the majority of the snaps makes me feel better about

675
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: him as a second quarterback. Um, I've been drafting Marquis Callaway.

676
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: I think at some point, as you mentioned, they're gonna

677
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: get Michael Thomas back. That only makes that offense better,

678
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: and that only makes me a little bit more confident

679
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: in what Jamis can be. Uh. And again, if he's

680
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: not my number one quarterback, I don't have to worry

681
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: so much about the yolo balls and the interceptions uh

682
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: coming at home point, because they're gonna come. Like I know,

683
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: Jamis got got lasick and everything, but you know, he's

684
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: still Jamis Man. He's still He's still gonna make those throws,

685
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: still gonna happen. Um, same division, how much interest do

686
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: you have in Sam Donald as say a QB two

687
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: this year? I think I have to officially apologize to

688
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: to you and to Sam Donald and to ask if

689
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: there is room on the Sam Donald wagon. I'm on board,

690
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I am. I think the last three years it's hard

691
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: to hold against Sam Donald. Like I know, I've said

692
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot of bad about him in recent years, but

693
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: it's more so like, it's not just him. It was

694
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 1: Adam Gaze and the Jets, and before it was Gays

695
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: they had it was a defensive minded coach and I

696
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: don't think I think he was just put in a

697
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: really bad position. Like we see teams have been loading

698
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: up on wide receiver talent and just playmakers around young

699
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks subjects to the opposite of that. For three years

700
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald, they were like, Hey, we're gonna throw

701
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: out guys off the street and you just make them good,

702
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: and it just never worked for Sam Donald. But I

703
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: think this year, with a better coach and a better

704
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: offensive scheme with a lot of talent around him, Like

705
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: I really like Robbie Anderson a lot for fantasy. I'm

706
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: not as high on DJ Moore as others, but I

707
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: think he is a very capable wide receiver one for

708
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: NFL purposes. And then Terrace Marshall Jr. Is something that

709
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers were missing, that downfield threat, that

710
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: contested catch option, and he is going to be amazing

711
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: for them in the red zone. I then Christian McCaffrey's

712
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: back to where Donald is feeling pressure, he could just

713
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: dump it off to McCaffrey and and he could do

714
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: what he does, So Sam Donald, you could put him in.

715
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: I say, I want upside with my quarterback too. I

716
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: have him below the other guys, I said, like two

717
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: of fields Lands. But if I miss out on those guys,

718
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: my pivot has been Sam Donald. I'm okay with it,

719
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: especially because Sam Donald showed us last year in flashes

720
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: that he's a better runner and a better athlete than

721
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: we really saw times with the Jets. So I also

722
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: have a little bit of hope that they will let

723
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: him run a little bit more in Carolina as well.

724
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I I've tried to recuse myself mostly from the Sam

725
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: Donald conversation because I was the first to admit that

726
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: maybe I I am a little bit biased because I

727
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: want him to do well, and I felt like he

728
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: got such a raw deal with the Jets um that

729
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, I just my fandom sort of took over

730
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: and I felt like I couldn't completely be rational. But

731
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: what I've seen in the preseason does remind me of

732
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: of who he can potentially be. And and look, I

733
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: I will fully admit that this for me this next

734
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: year or two, this is sort of it. This is

735
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: this is his proven situation right. If for the next

736
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: couple of years we look back in Sam Donald in

737
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Carolina is the same guy he was in New York,

738
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: then I'm willing to just say, hey, look, maybe he

739
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: just wasn't fit for the NFL the way we thought,

740
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: and I'm willing to just kind of let that be. Um.

741
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: But I do think there's a path here. They think,

742
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, there is more talent here than he

743
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: had in any of the offense. Is really uh in

744
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: New York all those years, definitely has a better running

745
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: back situation. He's with Robby Anderson, who he was able

746
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: to form at least a connection with in New York

747
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: for a year or two, so that that certainly helps.

748
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: I do think when you know, we get some more

749
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: DJ more out there, I think it'll be interesting to watch.

750
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: Um side note that has nothing to do with Sam Donald.

751
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: We we need to come up with a better nickname

752
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: for Terris Marshall Jr. Than T MJ. Like we can't

753
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: have we can't have him being nicknamed after Lockjaw, Like

754
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: it's just as not right. Like we gotta do better,

755
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like we have come to a point in

756
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: society where we don't even try with nicknames anymore. We

757
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: just like shortened names or use initials, like we need

758
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: to come with good nicknames again, and calling Terris Marshall Jr.

759
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: T m J is awful. We gotta do better. That's

760
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: all about that. It's when you say we forced nicknames

761
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: too much. Is let him do something in the game

762
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: and an announcement will say something and that'll be or

763
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: or he'll he'll get scared by sir her and catch

764
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: onto a nickname like that. Something like that will happen

765
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: and he'll organically get a nickname exactly. I think that's

766
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: what we need to do, man, just like, just let

767
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: it happen. Let's not let's not force it. But T

768
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: m J is awful and we can't. I will not

769
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: abide that. I'm never gonna use that. The last few weeks,

770
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: I've been trying to come up with five questions for

771
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: for the preseason weeks. This is preseason week three, and

772
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: we have no idea like who we're going to see

773
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: or how much we're gonna see them until like, trying

774
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: to come up with five questions felt nearly impossible. So

775
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I got four. Uh, so we're gonna do four questions

776
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: for preseason week three the first one. Um, I promise

777
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot at you. I really do

778
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: want to know. Um, the Bills, you're gonna see them

779
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: on NFL Network coming up on Saturday in their third

780
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: preseason game. How do you expect they're gonna split their

781
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: running back worklow? Because both Devin Singletary and Zack Moss

782
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: have played well this year, I am still scared to

783
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: draft either one of them. Like, how do you think

784
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: this is gonna go well? If Week two is any

785
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: indication this is Devin Singletary's backfield still like he started

786
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: Week two. Moss was out week one. So Singletary getting

787
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: all the run with the starters, you could take that

788
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: how you will. But in week two, Singletary got the start,

789
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: he got cat markets, they used him near the goal line,

790
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: they allowed him to go out wide at times, and

791
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: it was multiple drives before Zack Moss even came onto

792
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: the field. So I continue to believe that Devin Singletary

793
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: is not going away in this backfield. Like I know,

794
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Zack Moss truthers out there, and

795
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: the belief was that he could shake Devin Singletary and

796
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: kind of make this backfield take it for his own again.

797
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: He'll never be able, none of these backs will ever

798
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: be able to have the backfield to themselves because Josh

799
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: Allen isn't going away and Josh Allen is going to

800
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: be utilized near the goal line. But seeing as the

801
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: single Harry get as much work as he did, and

802
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: the fact that you could get him rounds later, this

803
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: is kind of like to me, Marcus, like the poor

804
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: man's ravens Uh situation, Like, yeah, you don't have to

805
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: pay a premium to get either, but you are getting

806
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: a very big discount on one compared to the other.

807
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: And it's the one who scored more Fantasy points last year,

808
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: and the one who the Bills coaching staff continues to

809
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: talk up and again. I Devin Singletary last year after

810
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: the Bills lost in the playoffs and he had that

811
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: big drop, he did an interview where he said, like, listen,

812
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: I quickly realized that my career could be short lived.

813
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Like facts like me who aren't fast and don't have

814
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: a lot of explosiveness don't last long in the NFL.

815
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: So he went to the RB whisperer take this how

816
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: you will, and has been doing a lot of drills

817
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: on increasing his speed in his burst, and so far

818
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: in preseason he has looked faster. So I'm expecting Devin

819
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: Singletary to once again be the lead back in Week three.

820
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: I I've always been a fan of Devin Singletary, and

821
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: the reason I have interracted him, as I keep saying,

822
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: is that I feel like the Bills don't like him

823
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: as much as I do. Like they keep bringing people in,

824
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: they keep giving other people opportunities at the goal line.

825
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: So if this is changing, I mean, if if it

826
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: really is that they're going to give singletaryes some more

827
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: opportunity and more importantly, they're gonna give him opportunities to

828
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: score touchdowns, um, then then maybe I can I can

829
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: start to you know, learn to trust again, um, because

830
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that's been the hard part for me. It's not it's

831
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: not that I I don't like him, It's just that

832
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I feel like they're not going to give him the

833
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: same kind of opportunities. And so if if this preseason

834
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: is uh an indication of of what's going to be,

835
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: then then maybe I'm back on board again. So we'll

836
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: we'll see, um, the Raiders will see them Sunday on

837
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: NFL network. Uh, and they take on forty nine. That

838
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: game kicks off at four pm Eastern Time on NFL Network. Uh.

839
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Same question though, I mean with with Josh Jacobs and

840
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, how do you see this sort of breaking down? Yeah,

841
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: we have less to go by here. My anticipate Haitian

842
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: all summer. So I'm gonna go with with what I've

843
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: been thinking has been that Josh Jacobs is going to

844
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: continue to be the starter and the lead back, but

845
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: I think Kenny Drake is going to be involved more

846
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: than any backup Josh Jacobs has has to deal with

847
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 1: in his career, Like Kenyan Drake is a good pass

848
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: catching back, or at least he was prior to when

849
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: they just decided not to throw him the ball at all.

850
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake last year showed us that he could be

851
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: a short yard runner, especially near the goal on which

852
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: is so valuable for running back. So that is what

853
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to be watching closely in his closest in

854
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: this game. It's like, when do they bring Drake in,

855
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: how are they mixing in him? And is it going

856
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: Like what impact is it going to have on Josh Jacobs.

857
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: But I think this will be sixty split this year,

858
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: maybe even closer to a fifty fifty, whereas I think

859
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: it'll be closer to fifty. But Jacobs has never had

860
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: someone like this. He just had to worry about taking

861
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: touches before. Yeah, and you know, reading some of the

862
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Raiders beat reporters, and you know what, what they expect.

863
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: The comparison that sort of came up, and people admit

864
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: it's not a one to one, But the closest thing

865
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: they can sort of compare this too is back in

866
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: the early two thousands when Jon Gruden was still the

867
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: head coach the first time around, uh, and they had

868
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: Tyrone Wheatley and Charlie Garner, And you know, you had

869
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: the guy in Wheatley who was more the traditional kind

870
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: of between the tackles, straight ahead running back, and you

871
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: had Gardner who was kind of the change of pace,

872
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: shifty guy pass catcher. Which, by the way, Charlie Garner

873
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: is kind of the last time a John Gruden offense

874
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: had a at least a Raider John Gruten offense had

875
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: a significant pass catching running back. He did a little

876
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 1: bit with Michael Pittman in Tampa Bay, but throughout Gruten's

877
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 1: coaching history there just haven't been a ton of guys

878
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: who catch a lot of balls out of the backfield.

879
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Maybe Kenyan Drake can sort of be that guy. I

880
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: I've drafted Jacobs sparingly in some spots, I've drafted Kenyan

881
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: Drake and maybe one or two spots. Um, it's it's

882
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: another situation that where I have I just worried about it.

883
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: So why haven't really gone all in? Because, um, you know,

884
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I still think this is an offense that's going to

885
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: be mediocre at best. So the touchdown upside for everybody

886
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: involved is going to be capped and when they throw

887
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: the ball it's pretty much gonna go in the direction

888
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: of Darren Waller. So um that that worries me a

889
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: little bit. Side note, do you have any idea of

890
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: any Raiders wide receivers that you're interested in. I've been

891
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: taking later round shots, like in the double digit rounds,

892
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: on both Rugs and Edwards because I will admit, like,

893
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: I think they both have some upside, but I with

894
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: zero confidence could tell you like it's gonna be Rugs,

895
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be Edwards. I have a little bit

896
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: more Rugs just because I think there's more incentive there

897
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: for them to get like they took him as the

898
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver ahead of Judy and Lamb and

899
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, so I think there is more incentive there.

900
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: But the reporters keep talking about how great Brian Edwards

901
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: has looked at camp and how they're talking him up

902
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: so much. I've been taking I don't have any teams.

903
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't think with both of them on it. It's

904
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: usually one or the other. But again, I can't tell

905
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: you confidence much confidence it's gonna be either or of

906
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: these two guys, basically Darren Waller or bust for me

907
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, I've drafted Edwards in a few spots

908
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: because this is sort of me doubling down on how

909
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: I felt from last year where I like Brian Edwards

910
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: and I took him late and you know, injuries sort

911
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: of derailed that. So I'm I'm I'm willing to give

912
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: it another shot. I haven't really drafted Rugs, but I

913
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: don't have supreme confidence in either of them. Um. Weirdly,

914
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: you know what, it still could be hunch of renfro

915
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: right after all that, like the right answer might end

916
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: up being somebody else who knows. Um. Speaking of wide receivers.

917
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: You see the Patriots on Sunday on NFL Network, Um,

918
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: what do you expect from their wide receiver? Because I

919
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: feel like we spent a lot of time talking about

920
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks. We've talked about their running backs, we haven't

921
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: talked nearly as much about their past catchers. How do

922
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: you feel about those guys right now? Jacoby Myers is

923
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: and I like John hu Smith as well because I

924
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: think he'll be their top like red zone weapon. But

925
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: for their receivers, it's kind of like, I will admit

926
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: I was way too low on Jacob be Myers coming

927
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: into two preseason and even after we had that first

928
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: big game, I was a guard it's one preseason game.

929
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: But then he dominated Week two as well, and I

930
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: really have moved him up the rankings. And that's what

931
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm expecting again right like, I'm expecting more Jacobe Myers

932
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: this week, and if he does have another big week,

933
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: he's just going to continue to shoot up draft boards.

934
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Like Nelson Aguilor. I understand he had a good year

935
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: last year and I think he'll be more of the

936
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: field stretcher for them, but he hasn't been really. Uh,

937
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: you haven't heard a whole lot about him this summer

938
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: at all. Kendrick Bourne. I mean, they gave him all

939
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: that money just to play Jacobe Myers over him. So

940
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: for me, with their receivers, it's kind of just Jacobe

941
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Myers and that's really it that I have interest in

942
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: drafting right now. Yeah. I think I'm kind of the

943
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: same way too, And for me, it's, you know, Adalore,

944
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: we kind of know who he is, uh, and I

945
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: know he was really good last year with the Raiders,

946
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: but we sort of know who he is. I feel

947
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: like Myers is still I will say, an unknown, but

948
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: I think the ceiling potentially is a little bit higher there. Um,

949
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: I would saying a little bit disappointed because Nikkila Harry

950
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: is hurt because he was playing so well in training

951
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: camp in the preseason and he was a guy that

952
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I loved at Arizona State and I wanted to see

953
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: him see if he could translate that to the NFL.

954
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: And we still aren't really going to get that chance.

955
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: So I think I'm with you that that Myers is

956
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: kind of the only guy that that I'm really drafting

957
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: right now. Um. Last one the Falcons they play Sunday night.

958
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: The game is on NBC eight o'clock Eastern against the

959
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Who is there RB two and doesn't matter?

960
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: And I asked, I looked at the depth chart, and

961
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: I know these are unofficial, but if you look on

962
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: their depth chart, the running back listed behind Mike Davis

963
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: is cor Daryl Patterson. UM great, great, great return man,

964
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: very versa. We could do a lot of things. I

965
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: don't trust him as an RB two. I mean, is

966
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: there somebody there you like? And like I said, does

967
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: does it even matter at this point? I think it matters,

968
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: but not enough to really pull him up outside of

969
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: being the last round pick and fantasy. But I've been

970
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: banking on it in Quadrea Allison, especially because he's built

971
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: like a tank. So I could see them in the

972
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: red zono or in the like short yarded situations using

973
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: him and not Mike Davis. UM. The one thing I

974
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: will say though, is like Mike Davis, I don't know

975
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: one is super excited to draft him. He's like in

976
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: the RB dead zone. But we just kind of been

977
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: treating Mike Davis like like this is fully his backfield

978
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: and you could, like if you miss out on him,

979
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: He's a reliable RB two. He was good last year

980
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: with Carolina, but he has really struggled before that in

981
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: his NFL career. He is someone that I think has

982
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: more bus potential than a lot of us, myself included,

983
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: have really discussed and it's been the last couple of

984
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: weeks that I'm like, maybe Mike Davis isn't as safe

985
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: of a pick as I thought he was, because I

986
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: just thought he would have a ton of catches with

987
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: the Falcons trailing so much. Um. But I think Quadrea

988
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: Allison could be the touchdown vulture here, which would obviously

989
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: cap Mike Davis's upside. My concern with Mike Davis last

990
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: year he had two touches, first time in his career.

991
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: He had been a over a hundred and fifty touches, right, So,

992
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean he before that his career, I have been

993
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: one forty six. So that's a pretty big jump, and

994
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if that had something to do with him

995
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of fading in the back half of the season.

996
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: He was good early, late, he didn't really offer much,

997
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: and so I just wonder whether or not he's ready

998
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: to be uh something close to a bell cow or

999
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: a workhorse or anything whatever whatever term you choose. To use. Um.

1000
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: I just have concerns that he's not really ready to

1001
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: kind of handle that. I mean, there's there's a reason

1002
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: some guys are journeymen and have never really ascended to

1003
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 1: the role of starter throughout their career, and I think

1004
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: it's fair to sort of ask if that's not the

1005
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: case with Mike Davis, and so that that is part

1006
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: of the reason that I've been concerned. It's part of

1007
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: the reason I wonder about their RB two and and

1008
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: maybe you're right, maybe it is Allison. I know people

1009
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: were in on Javian Hawkins early in the off season

1010
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: and then he got released, So, um, this year's James Robinson.

1011
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: He was he was gonna be this year's James Robinson.

1012
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: So if that it was your thought process, Unfortunately you

1013
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: don't have to go back to the drawing board to

1014
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: to figure that out. So, Marcus, did you see though

1015
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: Mike Davis is part of Team Quads. Yes, he's on

1016
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: the quad Squad. Yeah, man, I haven't heard quad squad.

1017
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. Yeah, the quad Squad. It's like,

1018
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: you know him a j Dillon, Uh say, Quan obviously

1019
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: is there? Who am I missing? I think Austin Ekeler

1020
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: showed up in there somewhere. Uh yeah, man, it's a

1021
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: it's a notable group of of running backs who have

1022
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: showed up there in the the hashtag quad squad. Um.

1023
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: So good for him. You know, I still laughed. If

1024
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,239
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1025
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,680
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1026
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,960
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1027
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,160
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1028
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,279
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1029
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: me to work out every day, I don't know if

1030
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: my quads could look like that though. Okay, that's probably fair.

1031
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,719
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