1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody, DJ Bucky here moved the sticks 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: as we are one week away from taking off to 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis for the scouting combine, which is a good thing. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: We love this time of year. Is nothing better. Buck 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and I enjoy talking about these players, which we're gonna 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: do a little later on this episode. Gonna go through 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Buckey's top five position list on the defensive side of 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: the ball if he missed the offensive side. Go back 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and listen to the previous episode. We're gonna take you 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: behind the curtain a little bit and tell you what 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: goes on in draft meetings that NFL teams are having 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: right now as well. But Buck, I think we ought 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: to start the show off with UH with a tweet. 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: Why don't you hit us with a tweet that just 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: hit the Twitter verse unbelievable, UH perennial poll Bolt wide 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: receiver Antonio Brown, who has discussed being UH. I wanted 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: to be shot, wanted to move on UH, He tweeted 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: today had a great meeting with Mr Rooney today. We 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: discussed a lot of things and we cleared the air 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: on several issues. We both agree that it is time 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: to move on, but I always have appreciation and gratitude 23 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: towards the Rooney family and Steller's organization hashtag called God, 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: hashtag booming. Well, just give me your thoughts, immediate thoughts. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: This is this is a real time reaction because this 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: literally just came down. So your thoughts on my go ah, man, 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: that's it's kind of unbelievable, Like it's unbelievable if this 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: is what happened, if they kind of agree to part ways, 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: didn't he kind of torpedo all the leverage in the 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: trade market, Like, I mean, I gotta move him, so 31 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: you have to move him. They talked about having to 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: move on from him, but I don't even know what 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: he necessarily commands on the open market. I know we 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: talked about a Maray Cooper bringing back a first round 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: pick from the Oakland Raiders when the Dallas Cowboys made 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that swap. Antonio Brown is a little older. Antonio Brown 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: has had more issues than a Marii Cooper. Um, we 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: can talk about the production man significantly greater. I mean 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: six seasons with over a hundred catches over twelve yards. 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I had fifteen touchdowns this past season. But I really 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: don't know what are you willing to give up because 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: he seems like such a wild card, Like um, I 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: think this is a unique situation for a team because 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out, how does a b fit 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: into your locker room? How is he going to impact 46 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: your younger receivers, How is he going to be as 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: a route runner in a detailed and disciplined system because 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: some of the things they do in Pittsburgh is a 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: little more freelance oriented. I don't know, man. I think 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: this is ultimately going to be a hard trade for 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: the Stellers to pull off. And that's before we even 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: get to the money that we're talking about with the 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: cap hit and the amount of money that you have 54 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: to pay a b um. I think this may take 55 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: a while, but I know that they have a deadline 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: because he has a roster bonus due I think March second, 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: see the March second of March fifth, he has like 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: a two two and a half million dollar roster bonus. 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: So everything has to kind of be done by that 60 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: point because I'm sure it just still just don't want 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: to come out of pocket, didn't have to trade him 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: all right, here's my my initial thought to this whole thing. Um, 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking back to last year the Kansas City Chiefs, 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: who had a lot of a lot of impressive pieces 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: in place when you talk about the tight end that 66 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: they had, and Kelsey um Tyree Kill was already there. 67 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: He had Cream Hunt at the time. This was long 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: before anything happened with him off the field, that that 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: is a dynamic nucleus, had a new young quarterback taking over, 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: they knew had a ton of ability, and it looked like, okay, defensively, 71 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: they've got some good pieces there. This is a pretty 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: balanced team. And what did they do. They decided to 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: trade Marcus Peters. They go acquire Sammy Watkins, and it 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: was basically, we're going to outscore people. Were we have 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: a great offense, We're gonna make it greater. What they 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: did adding to an already dynamic offense. So if I'm 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: looking at teams around the league right now, buck that 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: have really good offenses that maybe have some holes on 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, maybe some holes on 80 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: offensive line wherever, but that might just decide, you know what, 81 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna just add another incredible weapon to what we 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: already have. And we're to outscore people. And I'm kind 83 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: of scrolling through the draft order and I'm looking at teams. Now, 84 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: this would be inside the a f C. It's not 85 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: inside the division, but inside the conference. And I know 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans have other needs, but can you just imagine, 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: just close your eyes and imagine for a minute with 88 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Hopkins and then you've got a healthy fuller and now 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you drop Antonio Brown in there 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson. What that offense would look like. I mean, 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: it would be crazy. It would be crazy to think 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: about what he could possibly do. Um. But if you're 93 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh Seals, can you move him to someone in 94 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: the a f C? Are you relegated to making sure 95 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: that he ends up in the then well, then find 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: me a NFC team when you go through here, find 97 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: me an NFC team that's dynamic offensively that maybe you know, 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: you get one more piece it. You know, the Packers 99 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 1: is a new it's a new era. Now, he would 100 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: he would eat There's no way you can bring him 101 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: to Green, but he would. That's what I'm saying. I'm 102 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: trying to find that team, Like, forget about it. Uh, Okay, 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: So the team that has always been discussed, frequently discussed 104 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: has been to San Francisco forty Niners. The reason why 105 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: that that's not a diet. I mean, it's not a 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a special offense. But I think 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the one saving grace with the forty Niners, Kyle Shanahan 108 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: has dealt with Julio Jones in terms of being able 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: to script and make sure that his top guy gets 110 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: all of his touches. Now, I don't know how much 111 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: better it makes him to bring a b in with 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: the rest of the mix, but certainly maybe it can 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: close the gap on some of the teams within the division. 114 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Um Outside of that, in the NFC, what about the 115 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: Falcons just mentioned Julio Jones. How about that offense he 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: threw him in the mix? I mean, yeah, you have 117 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: to move on from You have to move on from 118 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. If you bring him in there, uh, I 119 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: mean it, it'd be terrific. But CANDQ, you handle all 120 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: of that. You gotta pay Julio because you know who, 121 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: he had a lot of personalities. I know he wasn't 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: the head coach there in Seattle, but he was running 123 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: that defense with a lot of personalities and it worked out. 124 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: So I think with a B you have to think 125 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: if this is a two year rental, two years, right, 126 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, that's why I'm trying to find 127 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: that team to two year runner who is close Minnesota 128 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: is there? He can't go to Detroit because he wouldn't 129 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: fit in with the Matt Patricia think. I don't. I 130 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: don't think he would want to go to Carolina just 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: because Yeah, I don't think that. Yeah, Cam, that's a 132 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: great fit. But man be a nice weapon. It would 133 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: be a nice weapon. Um, New Orleans? What about Seattle? 134 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, man, but that's a blue collar 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: receiver room. That is a blue collar receiver room. That 136 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: would be bringing in a white collar dude. I mean, 137 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: if they'd be bringing in there, like, how would he 138 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and Doug Walbin coysis better? Yet, how would he exist 139 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson? Um? I mean he's barking at a 140 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: big ben. He can't bark at Russell like that. I 141 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: mean there's a lot to work through when it comes 142 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: to that. But Pete carrolls to do that stuff where 143 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: I mean, where else are we looking? I mean Washington 144 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: would always be the team that typically can do it, 145 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: but they don't have a quarterback. The Eagles are never 146 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: afraid to go with a bold move. Okay, knowing everything 147 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: that you know about them, do you think they could 148 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: slide him in there and he could be effective? I mean, 149 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: he would give them something that they don't really have. 150 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean they took a chance on Golden Tate. I 151 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: mean totally different guy though. I mean this is an elite, 152 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: elite elite. Oh no, no, no, I'm saying that, But 153 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: I think Goldon Tate has a bit of a personality 154 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: as well. Um, he certainly would upgrade them from what 155 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: they have on the outside. Uh, He's never been challenged 156 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: to play in an offense that is his detailed, just 157 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: maybe the West Coast and the version that Doug Peterson 158 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: is running. But knowing what Doug Peterson had at as 159 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: supposed when he was at Kansas City and seeing how 160 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: all of that weaponry changes the way your quarterback plays, 161 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: it would be those two tight ends they have plus 162 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: a B. Then if they went out and got a 163 00:07:53,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: running back, pretty explosive, No, pretty explosive. You know. The 164 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: place where he really would the place where he really 165 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: would work out and possibly Fit would be down in 166 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: Tampa if it wasn't for the issues and the beef 167 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: that he had with Bruce Arians in the all season 168 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: when Bruce Arians kind of called him out and called 169 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: him a diva. He could slide in easily to where 170 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson is moving out and give them a little 171 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: something different. It's uh, it's gonna be fascinating to see 172 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,119 Speaker 1: what happens. Like you said, the leverage is not really 173 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: in the Steelers corner. When you know, what do you 174 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: give up for past? What do you give up for him? Now? 175 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: That man that you know that he doesn't want to 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: return your team, that is willing to make a deal. 177 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: What are you willing to give up? Are you? Are 178 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: you forced to give up a number one? Do you 179 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: wait and see if you can get away with the two? 180 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: I think I think you're gonna have to give up 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a one. I do. I know you've gotta pay him. 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: I know he's older than Cooks and Sammy Watkins, two 183 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: guys we've seen get traded, uh for ones? Right, was 184 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: with Sammy al one or with Sammy at too? It 185 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: seems like it's so long ago, but it wasn't that 186 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: long ago Sammy Watkins, it's a two right when they 187 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: traded for him. I think it was. I think the 188 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: translate that move. If it's not if it's not a 189 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: one buck, it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be 190 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: probably two twos or two and a three. I mean 191 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be two. It's gonna take two picks, in 192 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, inside the first three rounds, or it's gonna 193 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: at least just take one first round pick and maybe 194 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: you can try and push that off. Maybe it's a combination. 195 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: You say, look, I will give you a a third 196 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: or a fourth round pick this year, and it's a 197 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: one the following year. If you're a team that's picking it, 198 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: like if you're San Francisco, you're not gonna trade the 199 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: second pick. So but maybe it's a situation where you say, 200 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: we will give you the following year's one one, or 201 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you, you you know, a two. You know, 202 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: a two this year is a darn high to uh 203 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: for the forty niners. So maybe it's a two this 204 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: year in a in a three or four the following year. 205 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: But I think it would take a couple of picks. Yeah, 206 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna take up to two picks. I 207 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: would like to see, is there a power broke in 208 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: the second round there would be willing to give up 209 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: multiples two twos, three two, something like that, because you 210 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: know how we view twos. A lot of teams view 211 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: twos is like that's potential starters. So if you're able 212 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: to kind of a mass, if you can't get the 213 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: one that you want, maybe you get a handful of 214 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: twos and maybe a future to something that you can 215 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: package and kind of put in place and see what happens. 216 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: But man, if you're to Pittsburgh still, there's you're talking 217 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: about having to really I mean, you can part ways 218 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: with the running back, you can part ways with the 219 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Boy, you better hope that they can carry 220 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: it because well, I'm telling you, the the glue, the 221 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: glue and that whole organization is Munchak. I think Munchak. 222 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: He built that offensive line. He constructed that line. They 223 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: got them rolling. I thought everybody on that offensive line, 224 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: there are some good players there, but I think everybody 225 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: on that offensive line played above their ability level with 226 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Mike Munchack, and collectively as a group, they played really well. Now, 227 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: you take what I think, the glue and munchack out 228 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: of there, and I think I think when it's all 229 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: said and done next year, depending on what happens in Pittsburgh, 230 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well, I think people are gonna 231 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: point to the absence of Levian Bell. People are gonna 232 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: point to the absence it looks like here of Antonio Brown. 233 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Buck, the mun chack thing is huge. 234 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: That is all I mean is that, And so like 235 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: the funny the funny thing is, Um, there's a lot 236 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: of heat on Mike Tomlin. I mean, despite his record, 237 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: despite his accolades and all the other stuff that I mean, 238 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: this kind of puts everything on him and puts him 239 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: squarely in the crosshairs because when you lose these two guys, 240 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Because right now the narrative is the Pittsburgh Steelers are 241 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: soap oper a lot of drama. Um, you had a 242 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: guy who elected not to show up, stayed away from 243 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: team and living Bell. You had the drama didn't suit 244 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: following death with the offensive line taking shots and uh 245 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: ransacking the locker and all the other stuff, whether it's 246 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: in fun or not. You have a b not electing 247 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to play the final game, whether it's debt for disciplinary 248 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: reasons when Mike Thomas said he didn't shure for training 249 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, he didn't play. You have a quarterback who 250 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: was always kind of in the middle of something. Uh, 251 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: even though he's viewed as the leader of the franchise. 252 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: It just seems like there's a lot of discord and dysfunction. 253 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: And so the team that you tried on in twenty 254 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: nineteen is less talented than a team that you had. 255 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: But will they be more productive? Um? I think it's 256 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: gonna take a Hercy leon coaching effort from him and 257 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: his crew to be able to get this team not 258 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: only back into the playoffs, but to make them be 259 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: a viable contender in an a f C that they 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: were viewed as one of the top two or three 261 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: teams would have passed three, four or five years. You know, uh, 262 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: you know who's enjoying this whole this whole deal, by 263 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: the way, John Dorsey, I mean yeah, John Dorsey is 264 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: looking at this division and saying this next decade it 265 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: might be ours. I know the Baltimore Ravens might have 266 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: something to say about that with Lamar Jackson Company, But 267 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: just looking at the roster construction and where the ceiling 268 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: is and where they are right now. I would say, 269 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: if we are on a roller coaster, buck, the Browns 270 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: are climbing up that thing and the Steelers have hit 271 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: the down slope, and it is Uh, it looks very 272 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: very opportunistic right now for the folks in Cleveland. It 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: looks opportunistic for the folks in Cleveland, but also the 274 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: folks in Baltimore. UM. I think the thing that I'm 275 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: curious about with Cleveland, Cleveland has gotten to the mixed. 276 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland is a nice story. Cleveland was right around five hundred. 277 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: But you know, the hardest thing to do is go 278 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: from good to great in this league. And now that 279 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: everyone has seen them, everyone is aware of them, Everyone 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: will now treat them with the level of respect. They'll 281 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: get everyone's best game. We will see if the quarterback 282 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: suffers a bit of a sophomore slump now at all 283 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: the tape is out there on them. We also will 284 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: see how does Freddy Kitchens handle being the head coach. 285 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Now he's the head coach is opposed to just the 286 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and play caller. Uh, a lot of different roles. 287 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: New defensive coordinator and Steve Wilkes, a lot of moving 288 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: parts that the Cleveland Browns have to assemble while still 289 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: kind of trying to be back on track and overtake 290 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh Stills and remember the Baltimore Ravens of the 291 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: team to win the division last year. No doubt it's 292 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be a fun division to follow, 293 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: and then we'll see what these teams do in the 294 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: off season. To Cleveland brown still have some money to spend, 295 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: so they could continue to add to a very impressive 296 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: young nucleus. Alright, Buck, this interesting time a year because 297 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: these teams are in draft meetings. Who we can and 298 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: I can't contain this anymore? Many chat, this is breaking news, Okay, 299 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: can't I believe we're spending time on the podcast. The 300 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: podcast is dedicated to college in pro football. This is 301 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: a sports This Act podcast developed talking about future to 302 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: help them continue to finish in the seller. I mean, 303 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: come on, it's not happening. We have the number one 304 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: farm system, We've got talent coming up now, we've got 305 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: an infield with on one side, we've got Hazma on 306 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: the other side, We've got Yus, We've got Tatis, the 307 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: best young shortstop coming up, and we've got arms for days. 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: Buck the Padres man, get used to it. This is 309 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a team. It's gonna be the rein of 310 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: the Padres for a decade, not this year, starting next year. Okay, alright, okay, 311 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: we can get on the football before so unbelievable. So 312 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, great, let's just let's just imagine. Let's just 313 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: imagine that you're you're not distracted by the Padres. I mean, 314 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know free agency was still existing because I 315 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: thought pitchers and catches every quarter. But evidently you still 316 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: conside people in spring training to big deals. So Bryce 317 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Harper's next, We'll see where he lines up most of 318 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: us in the football. Do you see what he got? 319 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: Do you see what he got? But like ten year, 320 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: three million years? Three hundo? I mean you know how 321 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: it worked out for Alper Proles, right, I feel a 322 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: lot of shade being thrown right now saying so how 323 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: it works out? Like I mean, the good news is, 324 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: the good news is for you. The good news is 325 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: for you and all your fellow Dodger fans is you're 326 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to I'm sure you probably get 327 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: one more chance to lose the World Series and then 328 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: and then we'll start taking over. Actually get there and 329 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: go ahead and finish one of those things off. Yeah, 330 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Steve Carby coming, I don't know. 331 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: All right, Draft meetings, Buck, Draft meetings are taking place 332 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams right now. Um, I know 333 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: you you talked to your buddies around the league, and 334 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: it's tough to get ahold them right now because you're 335 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: draft meetings all day long. Uh So for those that 336 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: don't know, and we were in different environments, different organizations 337 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: handled these differently. So this rounded draft meetings before you 338 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: get to the combine, what went on in those meetings 339 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: and your experience. Okay, so obviously we had different experiences. 340 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: I come from the ron Wolf Tree, uh where this 341 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: is probably taking place right now in Seattle, in Cleveland 342 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: where do we have some descendants, but Seattle, in Cleveland 343 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: and Green Bay for sure, Like what is happening right 344 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: now from the next two or three weeks, we're going 345 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: to the combine. Everyone is sitting around around table and 346 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: they are in the dark, and they're looking at tape 347 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: and what they're doing is in alphabetical order. We talk 348 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: about the draft board being vertical and horizontal. The horizontal 349 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: board is when you have every position. So let's just 350 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: say we'll started our meetings with offensive tackle, guard centers, 351 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: then we go to wide receivers, tight ends, running backs, quarterbacks, 352 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: and they're doing in those meetings in alphabetical order. They're 353 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: looking at every prospect that has a draftable grade by 354 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: one of the area scouts. They are going through the 355 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: process of watching three games on that player um as 356 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: a group. And what you're trying to do with the 357 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: collective think tank is by doing it this way, you 358 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: don't have to do cross checks and cross checks. Basically, 359 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: say that I'm an area scout in the West, I 360 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: leave my area for a couple of weeks and go 361 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: to the southeast. I do a handful of schools in 362 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: the South East, so we can have another set of 363 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: eyes on the prospects that the primary area scout has 364 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: already looked at, so we get other opinions. When I 365 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: worked in that system, we didn't do cross checks, and 366 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: what we did is we just watched it all as 367 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: a group in this kind of acted as the cross check. 368 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: What I liked about this system it gave me an 369 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: opportunity as a guy that was in the West Coast 370 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: looking at all packed twelfth talent. It gave me an 371 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: opportunity lucky guys in the SEC and the Big Ten 372 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: and the Big East when the Big East existed the A, 373 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: C and and two then begin to understand what plays 374 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: in my area versus other areas. And then what we 375 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: were able to do is kind of amend our grades 376 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: based on what we've seen throughout the country. So I'm 377 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: not just grading people blindly, and now I have a 378 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: better sense of and look, my first round in the 379 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: West is not as good as the guy in the Southeast. 380 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: So as we're slotting the board, let's make sure we 381 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: slot the guy from Arkansas over my guy from s 382 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: C and the like. And so it gave me a 383 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: clear perspective of who's who and what's what prior to 384 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: the combine. So now when I'm watching the combine and 385 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching all these guys kind of do the underwear Olympics, 386 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: I now have film study in my background to now 387 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: go with what I'm watching on the field, and so 388 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: it gave me a better feel for what the prospect 389 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, I think it's important to have these 390 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: meetings before the combine too, because we use this phrase 391 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: when we discussed this time. You're anchoring. You want to 392 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: kind of anchor these guys to the board where you're 393 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: gonna have some movement after the combine. Look a guy, 394 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: you know you're worried about his speedy runs for three, 395 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: you can move up. You're gonna you're gonna move up. 396 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna move down a little bit based off what 397 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: you see in the interview process as well as what 398 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: goes on in the testing. Uh, they're in Indianapolis. But 399 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: you want to have an anchor to the board, so 400 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: you'ren't gonna have wild swings. You're not gonna have seventh 401 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: round grades on a guy going into the going into 402 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: Indie and then all of a sudden push him up 403 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: to the first round. So you gotta get them up 404 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: on the board, that initial board. This is the first 405 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: time that board has really come together during these meetings. 406 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people talk about, oh, 407 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: this guy is moving up and down team's draft boards. 408 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Now the draft board really hadn't been set until really 409 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: right about now. This is the meetings that take place 410 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: where you do that going over the background of these 411 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: guys and then read them all together. And I don't 412 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: know about you, Buck, but there were times I definitely 413 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: remember these where you start your school calls in August, 414 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: and then you're putting in grades as you go, so 415 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: you have turning your grades each and every week. So 416 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: if I'm going into a school, if I'm going to 417 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma in August, I write the player, put him in 418 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: the system. Now, I might go back through the bigger 419 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: schools later and get it, get two looks at them, 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and you can maybe update that report, update the grade, 421 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: but that goes in the book. Especially smaller schools usually 422 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: only get one look. So give me a better example here. 423 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: If if you're going to UH, UM like as it 424 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: is a Pacific, you're covering the West. You go there 425 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: in August, you're watching tape really from the year before. 426 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: You put him in the books and then uh and 427 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: then you get to the to the draft meetings, and 428 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: at that point in time you have cross checks coming. 429 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: They'll watch later tape this year's tape, and they'll kind 430 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: of cross check you. But Um, one of the things 431 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: that's interesting is you go into school earlier in the 432 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: year and you might give a guy, great, you haven't 433 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: seen anybody else you haven't watched you know, many guys 434 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: over the summer, so you have an idea of what 435 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: he is. Now you get to the meetings there in 436 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: this time of year and you get your report out there, Right, 437 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna go over all the sixty ones or the 438 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: sixty three's, which are you know, you're talking about third 439 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: round picks, second round picks. And you look at the 440 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: report and you go, oh, man, I know I gave 441 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: this guy a sixty one in August, but listen to 442 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: all these other guys get talked about and what they 443 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: can and can't do. I was way off on this dude, 444 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: and you kind of just gotta eat it a little 445 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: bit in that meeting and it kind of adjusts as 446 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: you are and didn't have a bunch of guys. There's 447 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: always a handful of guys that once you start reading 448 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: him after revisiting him after months, uh, you realized, man, 449 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: I was either too higher too low on this guy. Yeah, 450 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean some of that definitely takes place. And I 451 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: think what everyone has to understand typically in most front 452 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: office is like people will tell you, look, we're not 453 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: married to our grades. Like things change, like when you're 454 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: on the road or whatever, like, it's really a first look. 455 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: You're trying to get him in so everyone knows where 456 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: we need to have coverage, where we need to get 457 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: other eyes and the like. The main thing we want 458 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to do is we want to make sure we get 459 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: the player right by draft day. We want to make 460 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: sure that we know everything about him, from the background 461 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: and character to the way that he learns, to his 462 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: leadership ability, to then the way that he plays and 463 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: the way that he's played on tape. I believe in 464 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: I've said this numerous times. We've talked about this, we 465 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: should really put the pen down before the beginning of 466 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: the combine because the closest evaluation and the truest read 467 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: that we have on how our player plays is when 468 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: football is being played, and once football is done and 469 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: we're away from that, we only begin to mess things 470 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: up when we begin to let other things kind of 471 00:21:54,520 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: cloud our evaluation, whether that's combined workouts, pro day workouts, um, 472 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: even talking to the kid more where you begin to 473 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: like the kid and you kind of excuse away some 474 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: of the things that you may not like on tape. 475 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: For me, I found that it's it's kind of like 476 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: what was glad was book blink. Typically, your first impression 477 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: on the player, it's probably the truest gage now whether 478 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: it's right or wrong, but you end up feeling better. 479 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: In my experience, I've always um end up kicking myself 480 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: when I great a guy early. I feel good about 481 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: that great. Then somewhere along the line I kind of 482 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: talked myself out of it, and then when he plays 483 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, he ends up being what 484 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: I thought initially. And I just think that we are 485 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: better served if we can kind of get all of 486 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: the film evaluation done before we see him run around 487 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: in uh T shirts and shorts, because it changes and 488 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: it changes what we may see, and we don't want 489 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: to kind of chase goals and evaluate ghosts. You want 490 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: to make sure that we great the player for the player. 491 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: The film is really the DNA of the player. Yeah. 492 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I know. It's a good point. And and there's some 493 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: teams that really don't pay as much attention to the combine. 494 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: They are able to put that in the in the 495 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: background and don't really I thought, see I thought, I 496 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: thought you came from a spot in Baltimore. I always 497 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 1: thought that you guys kind of ignored combine and Pro 498 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Day workouts, that's not the case. No, I mean, look 499 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: at the tape. Was we had the guy's anchored on 500 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: the board, no question. We looked at it from a 501 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: standpoint of it can help and and and breaking ties 502 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: inside the same grade. So I'm not gonna take a 503 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: player you have a fourth round grade on and move 504 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: them over a player you had a third round grade on. 505 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: But if you have three offensive tackles and and you 506 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: have them in that and we didn't use rounds, but 507 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm just so people can understand we're talking about. But 508 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: if you had them in like a third round area 509 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: grade and you had so identical grades on three tackles, 510 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: now you go to the combine. One guy used to interview, 511 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: used to work out, Uh, the other guy we were 512 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: little uncomfortable with the with the interview and didn't have 513 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: a great workout. Then that is a deciding factor that 514 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: can be break times when you're looking inside those little clumps. Yeah. 515 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: So for us, and it all stems from from Round Wolf, 516 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: we always talked about not only with the combine and 517 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: Pro Days, but we also talked about all star games. 518 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: These things can never hurt you, they only can help you. 519 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: So we won't drop you, per se because you didn't 520 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: have a great combine workout or you didn't work out 521 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: well on your pro day. But what it made us 522 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: do is just kind of revisit the tape and just 523 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: make sure we feel good about what we saw on 524 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: tape and if something showed up based on a red 525 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: flag that may have popped up in a workout, we 526 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: just wanted to see if speed was an issue. For example, Uh, 527 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden Well used Joe Haydan Now I wasn't scouting 528 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: for a team then we were both working I think 529 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: NFL Network at the time. But Joe Haddon, Joe Haddon 530 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: ran slow at the combine, So say he ran four 531 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: seven at the combine. What you then would do is say, hey, 532 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: let's go back and pop in some table Let's watch 533 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: him play versus Alabama. Let's watch him play versus l 534 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: s U. Because we know l s U has some guys. 535 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: Did the speed deficiency show up? And if it didn't 536 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: show up on tape, then you just kind of say, hey, 537 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: maybe the guy just is not a great tester. Uh, 538 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: We'll go down to work him out and we'll kind 539 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: of see if he does a better her time and 540 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: we'll move him around and do some of the drills. 541 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: But if it didn't show up on tape and we 542 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: feel good about the workout when we saw him with 543 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: our DP coach, then typically we didn't move and make 544 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: an adjustment on the board. But it's just important to 545 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: give those workouts some context. It is really just to 546 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: confirm what you saw on tape is not to take 547 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: place of what you also saw on tape. All right, 548 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: we talked about going through your defense. Buck. We don't 549 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: have a ton of time left, but I do want 550 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: to go through. We can go through my position. Let's 551 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: just name off the top five and then give me 552 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: the reason why you have why you have the person 553 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: at number one on this list. Yeah, let's do it. 554 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: So defensive defensive tackle. Here we go. Quinn Williams, Jeffrey Simmons, 555 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, Ed Oliver and Dexter Lawrence. To me, Williams 556 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: is the dude. Williams is a guy that kind of 557 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of and Dominican Sue and 558 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson in terms of how he can dominate on 559 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: the inside. Uh, this would have been not one that 560 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: was close, but I felt like Jeffrey Simmons was kind 561 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: of gaining ground. It would have been in the conversation 562 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: as a top guy as we continue through the process 563 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: before the a c L. But to me, Williams is 564 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: the guy. The way the league is trending, you have 565 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: to have someone on the inside that can be a disruptive. 566 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Williams is Dad for me. All right. They get to 567 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: the edge dreshers here, it's a good group of ed 568 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: dressers and um where you have them one through five 569 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: and wine number one, Nick Bosa, Josh Allen, Rashaw and 570 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: Gary clelland Farrell and Montes sweat Uh. Nick Bosa to me, 571 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: is the most polish of all the edge rushers. I'm 572 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: not saying he's the most explosive athlete or the most 573 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: dynamic player, but if pass rushing is an art, he 574 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: definitely learns how. He knows how to kind of paint 575 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: a picasso. He is a terrific hand to hand combat player, 576 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: does a great job with his first step quickness, and 577 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: he just has a knack for getting home. I believe 578 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: the best pass rushers are the ones who are craftsman, 579 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and he has that ability. That's why I like him 580 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: at number one. Yeah, and then four and five you 581 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: had Farrell and Sweat. That's gonna be interesting in comparison 582 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: because that is a classic case of the big athlete 583 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: with the length and everything you want there and Sweat 584 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: versus maybe a little bit more productive, a little more 585 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: consistent football player, and Farrell who's a little bit stronger 586 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: as well. That's gonna be a debate for teams and 587 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: rooms all over the league. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna 588 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: be a it's gonna be an interesting one to watch. 589 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: But look Sweed made a polotic ground. I think he 590 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: really opened the eyes in the scouting community where he 591 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: performed down at the Senior Bowl. All right, let's go 592 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: to linebackers. Here we go. Uh we have Devin White, 593 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Bush where Mack Wilson, Trevor Lamar, and then just Tafaya 594 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: who from utub who really kind of caught my eye 595 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: when I did a game versus Marsh. But Devin White 596 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: to me is the sideline, the sideline playmaker that everyone loves. 597 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: He is not only guy that is instinctive and aware 598 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: it makes plays kind of running and chasing. He's the leader. 599 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: He has the intangible quality to be the traffic cop 600 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: and ultimately you want your inside linebacker to be able 601 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: to do those things. I think that separates him from 602 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: some of the other guys. He just has the size 603 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: and physicality, toughness, and then the communication skills that you 604 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: wanted to position. And a couple of the guys that 605 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: that didn't quite make the list that I've been going 606 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: through these linebackers last couple of days, so they're fresh 607 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: in my mind here, but they been along from West Virginia. 608 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I think the more you see him, the more you 609 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: can enjoy studying him. Buck and then Bobby Okareki from Stanford, 610 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: who has just look, he's got the length, he's got 611 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: the speed. A little bit inconsistent on tape, but he's 612 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: somebody I think that will kind of rise up through 613 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: the process. One of the winebacker I throw out there 614 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: is a Tovai from Hawaii who's big and plays on 615 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: the edge. Also plays off the ball, so he's been versatile. 616 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: He can run, uh, he'll be interesting. And then Terrell 617 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: Hanks from Mexico State. I have all those guys kind 618 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: of bunched in together. So it makes a comma because 619 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: the comment of sort amount that we combine and sort 620 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: amount and for us getting a chance to see these 621 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: guys in personnel. The scouts have had a chance to 622 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: go out there and body type these guys and see 623 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: them all live and in person. We've seen some of 624 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: these guys at the Senior Bowl, but not all of them, 625 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing them all in person 626 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: and get size him up a little bit. All right, 627 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: half the corners, here we go, Greedy Williams at one 628 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, DeAndre Baker, Trayvon Mullen and rock You sin 629 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,719 Speaker 1: Uh brings up number five and Greedy Williams. For me, 630 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: I think the fascination over the length, the ability to 631 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: play press corner uh, the fact that he has tremendous 632 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: interception production in his background. I think his ball skills 633 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: are terrific. But I'm I'm gonna say this, I really 634 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: like buying Murphy from Washington. He is kind of my 635 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: kind of player in terms of like smart, tough physicals 636 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: on the edge. I think he has a chance to 637 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: be a really really good player in time. Yeah, to me, 638 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: Greedy's a tough one. You know, I have him right now. 639 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: We'll see when I do this update, but I've got him. 640 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: I believe in my fourth corner um Bucky's. He has 641 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: got the length, and he's got the kind of a 642 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: build up speed, and he's got great ball skills. I 643 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: just go back when I self scout and find corners 644 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: I've missed on a lot of times. They're missing a 645 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: little bit of that grit, a little bit of that toughness, 646 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: And that, to me is a little bit of the 647 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: question there when I studied greedy, greedy Williams, but I 648 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: couldn't just go all in on him in that area. 649 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: I want to seem be just a little bit more competitive. Yeah, 650 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd like to see him bang a little bit. 651 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: I think part of why I may be giving him 652 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break is because L s 653 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: U has been so good producing guys that go to 654 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: the league and play and play well. I'm thinking that 655 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: it's somewhere in his d n A and at some 656 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: point that tiger bait is gonna kind of kick in 657 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: and he's going to be the player that we've talked 658 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: about that we were excited about when he was a 659 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: younger player. All right, let's get to other safeties. Jonathan Abraham, 660 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson, the Sire Adderley Taylor, Rap and then Lucas 661 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: Tennis Um and Abram Man. I just love the physicality. 662 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: He's a little more old school and dog man. He's 663 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: an alphat. He comes down here. He is not afraid 664 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: to be in the box and to be violent at 665 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the point of attack. He does a great job of 666 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: knocking people down and and tackling. I think the one 667 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: thing you want to rein him in and make sure 668 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: he's under control because they had a number of penalties 669 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: during his time Missy be State. But in terms of 670 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: an enforcer, every secondary needs someone that can be an 671 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: enforce in between the hashes. Man Abram is certainly the guy. 672 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: He's a He is a fun player to watch, a 673 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: fun player to get a chance to visit with him 674 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. He's somebody I think teams are gonna 675 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: fall in love with when they're with him. And I 676 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: think Taylor rapping Adderly is gonna be interesting to see 677 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: those guys as they kind of battle throughout the process. 678 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: I think both those guys have a chance to go 679 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: ahead of Deontae Tooms will see how what all shakes out. 680 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: Those two guys who I'm watched those workouts Adderly and 681 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Rap when you're watching the combine compare those two guys. 682 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: I think that's a debate that's taking place in rooms. 683 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. I mean, you talk about guys who 684 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: are too rific getting you around the ball, who are smart, 685 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: who kind of have the character that you want. Um, 686 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: you can't go wrong. We talked about in this business. 687 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: You cannot go wrong hitting singles and doubles. I can't 688 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: say that those guys are home runs, but I do 689 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: know there are solid players, and I think you can 690 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: plug them in and you can feel good about the 691 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: position for the next five or six years. All right, Buck, 692 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: that's that's good working. You're gonna be able to We're 693 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: gonna put out a video here. Hopefully within the next 694 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: week we'll be able to see some footage of these 695 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: guys that Bucky has in his top five lists. Will 696 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that, Buck. What do we know? 697 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: What we're working on here? Notebook this week? What do 698 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: we got? Man? I imagine that Antonio Brown would certainly 699 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: be in the conversation, uh, Nan that he has decided 700 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: that he wants to move on. I know we talked 701 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: about it, but you're still kind of holding out hope, 702 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: But Nanity tweeted a pitch out with the Rooney. Yeah, 703 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: I think I think it's time to talk about where 704 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: you may go. That'll be be on the lookout for that. 705 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: That's NFL dot com slash Bucky Brooks and uh. I 706 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: think that's probably time for us to go. I gotta 707 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: go buy my World Series tickets. Uh we are going 708 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: to Uh, I don't know. I think we probably maybe 709 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: a year, take us a year, Manny Machado, I love it, 710 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: all right. That's gonna do it for us today. Any 711 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: final thoughts where we get out of here? Buck not 712 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: to say, I can't not believe that you're so excited 713 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: about the Padres right now. Oh, it's so good. I 714 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: love it. You can have the best young infield in 715 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: the in the major leagues here very soon. All right, 716 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. I'll move the sticks. 717 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Thanks for putting up with my potre fandom. 718 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: We will be back soon in a day or so 719 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: with a new podcast. As we marched towards the two 720 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen scouting combine as well as a twenty nineteen 721 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: NFL draft. Football, this is an off season. There is 722 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: no off season. We love it here, right here on 723 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: Move the Sticks. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with 724 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL 725 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: dot com Slash Podcasts