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Speaker 2: Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score
Speaker 2: of twenty to ten. Patrick Mahomes through three interceptions as
Speaker 2: Kansas City playoffs hopes continue to fade. He was fourteen
Speaker 2: of thirty three under fifty percent completion, only one hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty yards, no touchdowns, three interceptions, was sacked twice.
Speaker 2: He didn't get much help from his receiving corps. Taekwon
Speaker 2: Thornton dropped the touchdown. Travis Kelsey dropped two plays on
Speaker 2: that left final drive OHO and then one of them
Speaker 2: got picked. Rashid Rice dropped a huge fourth down. He
Speaker 2: got little Peatri. I think I think that that thing
Speaker 2: kind of jarred him a little bit. I don't think
Speaker 2: he was all the way back Ojo because Peter dropped
Speaker 2: the boom on him. He did, he dropped the boom
Speaker 2: on it. He was totally relaxed. But the Texans did
Speaker 2: an unbelievable job. They got after the quarterback tonight and
Speaker 2: they forced him be shut down.
Speaker 1: I mean they had.
Speaker 2: Twins, but Mahomes with the leading rusher with seven carries
Speaker 2: for fifty nine yards. But oh, you're watching this game
Speaker 2: and you see the Houston Texans and what they were
Speaker 2: able to do. They go in the arrow ahead, they
Speaker 2: get this victory, stay attached to the Jacksonville Jaguars who
Speaker 2: leaves that division. Yes, they needed this victory in order
Speaker 2: to try to gain some footing, get into the playoff
Speaker 2: hunt and potentially chase down the Jags.
Speaker 1: But what did you like about what you saw from
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans?
Speaker 4: Listen, the Texan got it done.
Speaker 5: What I didn't like obviously, they didn't make enough adjustments
Speaker 5: for me, especially offensively. One trip McDuffie went out. You
Speaker 5: knew that that Spagnola had to bring pressure. Now with
Speaker 5: them bringing pressure, I got tired of seeing CJ. Stroud
Speaker 5: run for his life and they make no adjustments offensively. Obviously,
Speaker 5: I would think if you know they're blitzing every time.
Speaker 5: Stop running plays where the plays take long to develop.
Speaker 5: Just go quick game, if anything, do do things, you know, misdirection,
Speaker 5: get you know, get them, get them going one way
Speaker 5: and come back the opposit waity with something something else.
Speaker 5: But just seeing she destroud run for life. But they
Speaker 5: were able to make some plays even with that pressure.
Speaker 4: And they the back end was exposed.
Speaker 5: Obviously that god happened once you do blitz and outside
Speaker 5: of that, the defense. The defense won that game. The
Speaker 5: defense for the Houston Texans won that game for them.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 5: They lost what five of for their last fives or
Speaker 5: something something like that.
Speaker 4: They just don't look the same.
Speaker 5: Obviously, they have a great run, They've had a great run,
Speaker 5: and probably even though they have fifteen who probably is
Speaker 5: arguably one of the greatest, not maybe the second greatest
Speaker 5: quarterback of all time, this year just hasn't been it
Speaker 5: for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively, Everyone
Speaker 5: is healthy now offensively, and they let they let pack
Speaker 5: Mahome down. Uh Rashid Rice Hollywood Brown. He made some plays.
Speaker 5: Kelsey he did, he did. He looks almost like a.
Speaker 1: Shell of himself and he didn't play well.
Speaker 2: It's cold oo when you get you know he when
Speaker 2: you're old and it's cold ood you a.
Speaker 4: Young that a that ain't no excuse. You know that
Speaker 4: you have to adapt to the elements. You got to
Speaker 4: adapt to that.
Speaker 1: There's the reason why old people moved to Porta in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, We've been catching football's all we been.
Speaker 2: We've been thirty six all our life. We've been thirty
Speaker 2: seven all our life. We have been forty all our life.
Speaker 5: Listen, listen to me. Listen to me real quick. All
Speaker 5: you use your your eyes and your hands. That's all
Speaker 5: the come down to. You could be sixty years old
Speaker 5: your eyes in your hands. That don't never fail in
Speaker 5: regardless how old you get. But the Houston Texas, that
Speaker 5: god damn defense on boy, they can get out of
Speaker 5: the quarterback.
Speaker 4: They got the back in the back end.
Speaker 5: Man. The bloom Boys played very well, played very well.
Speaker 5: So I'm glad. I'm glad to see the Texans win.
Speaker 5: They won the last four of their last five games,
Speaker 5: so it seems like they're ascending right now.
Speaker 4: While the Kansaseley Chiefs are descending.
Speaker 2: They are Like I said, Taekwon Thornton had to touch
Speaker 2: down his hands. He dropped that great play by great
Speaker 2: great play to not give up, by lass to continue
Speaker 2: to fight all the way through the catchy Rashid Rice
Speaker 2: had a couple of drops. Travis had a couple of drops.
Speaker 2: We know that the offensive line is beat the hell.
Speaker 2: The left tackle comes in and he gets out, and
Speaker 2: now you're going against You're going with an undrafted uh
Speaker 2: left tackle against d'anil Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. That's
Speaker 2: not a recipe for success. But I thought he played
Speaker 2: really really well tonight. The offensive line is not you
Speaker 2: know the best. I mean, think about it. You're starting
Speaker 2: left tacklers out, your backup left tacklers out. You're starting
Speaker 2: all Pro right guard he's out. You're starting right tackle,
Speaker 2: he's out. So think about it. You're down, You're probably
Speaker 2: you're down to your backups, to your backups, and at
Speaker 2: some point in time you keep saying next man, next
Speaker 2: man up, next man up. Well, the next man up
Speaker 2: need to be making the equivalent of the guy that
Speaker 2: he's replacing, because if you say I got a guy
Speaker 2: that's making fifteen million, and then you bring a guy
Speaker 2: in four hundred thousand. There's a reason why one guy's
Speaker 2: making fifteen million. Oh Joe, there's a reason why one
Speaker 2: guy's making four hundred thousand. So we got you read
Speaker 2: this notion, Oh man, next man up.
Speaker 1: There's a reason why he was down to begin with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I disagree with the call to Andy made
Speaker 2: because points are out of premium at this point in time,
Speaker 2: the scores ten to ten. We're late in the ball game,
Speaker 2: O Joe, I will punt the ball because at that
Speaker 2: point in time, the Texans hadn't done anything in the
Speaker 2: second half. I think they might might've had fifty yards
Speaker 2: in the second half. For the longest time they were
Speaker 2: negative yards. Kansas City's defense and honed in s Fags
Speaker 2: had done a great job of dilling it up, stopping
Speaker 2: you run on first down, getting out the CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud, getting him off its mark.
Speaker 2: In that situation, I disagree with Andy, and I don't
Speaker 2: like to disagree with Andy because I think he's one
Speaker 2: hell of a coach and his residence speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: But in a game like this with points out of premium,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. If they do nothing offensively,
Speaker 2: they're in field goal ring yeah, I can't make that call.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I gotta punt this ball away.
Speaker 1: I understand. I got Patrick Mahomes, and I understand he
Speaker 1: wants to go up and go for it.
Speaker 2: Go for every quarterback you're gonna want to go with Ellie.
Speaker 2: He gonna want to go for it on fourth and ten,
Speaker 2: fourth and twelve. But sometimes you got to use your
Speaker 2: better part. You gotta use your judgment and like, you
Speaker 2: know what, let's punt this ball. Let's make let's force
Speaker 2: them to make a mistake. Let's not give them a gift.
Speaker 2: And I felt that's what they did, and that was
Speaker 2: really the difference in the ball game. But like I said,
Speaker 2: these guys, I mean, Mahomes were a little off. I
Speaker 2: mean he had great that's a hard play to defend.
Speaker 2: And you and I talked about it with a running back.
Speaker 2: You see Marx, he called a touchdown. He pretend like
Speaker 2: he was gonna walk. He slipped out.
Speaker 1: C J.
Speaker 2: Flipped it to him because that's the guy that has
Speaker 2: in man. Well, he's coming on the blitz. I ain't
Speaker 2: standing in the block him. I'm just gonna slip him
Speaker 2: and get to the flass. You see, the guys a
Speaker 2: lot of times those tight ends will be on the line.
Speaker 2: They're helping, helping everybody sinking. Now they drift out. The
Speaker 2: only thing I would tell North keep it up the feet.
Speaker 2: Why are you going to get a headache? Did you
Speaker 2: see that linebacker drifting that way? Now, Mahomes through a
Speaker 2: terrible pass. I would prefer you leak up the field
Speaker 2: and give yourself some room so you don't run into
Speaker 2: that headache that's in that middle linebacker that's waiting on you.
Speaker 2: But to make a long story short, and I know
Speaker 2: I went, I made a short story long. The Chiefs
Speaker 2: aren't getting very good this year.
Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. And honestly, Mahomes is fourteen for thirty three.
Speaker 5: He had three interceptions. You only threw for one sixty
Speaker 5: to night Exay be Worthy had three to fifty five.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken, he might have been their leading receiver.
Speaker 5: The fact that Patch Mahomes with a leading rusher, then
Speaker 5: you're not that's not gonna win you many games.
Speaker 4: That's not gonna win you many games. You have to
Speaker 4: have some type of balance.
Speaker 5: They were one demensum tonight for the simple fact that
Speaker 5: they couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 4: They haven't been able to run the ball all season long, honestly, and.
Speaker 2: That's why I, oh Joe, I felt that they should
Speaker 2: have gave up the second round pick or maybe even
Speaker 2: a first round pick for a Chane because if there
Speaker 2: back that's coming out in the draft that you believe
Speaker 2: that's better than a chan that can run the ball
Speaker 2: between the tackles, can hit his head on the gold post,
Speaker 2: can catch the ball out of the backfield. Because I
Speaker 2: mean Pacheco, I mean, Lord, have mercy. He get a hold,
Speaker 2: he runs right up the lineman's back. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You look yeah and kareem he
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see him back. But he's basically a
Speaker 2: power back. He's a three yard in the cloud of
Speaker 2: dust guy. He's not a guy that you can consistently
Speaker 2: give the ball to and you hope to him to
Speaker 2: break something big. That's not what he is right now.
Speaker 2: He's a two to three yard a carry guy. That's
Speaker 2: what he is, Oh Joe, And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: There's a place for that guy that you know he
Speaker 2: can get you very very tough yards. The initial of
Speaker 2: the first guy normally doesn't bring him down. But they
Speaker 2: need they need playmakers. They need guys that can help
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes out because at this juncture he can't do
Speaker 2: I mean, he can't.
Speaker 1: Do any more than what he's doing. He can't, he can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, guys, guy's gotta make and when your quarterback,
Speaker 2: and that's the thing, when your quarterback isn't playing well,
Speaker 2: you need guys that can step up in plays.
Speaker 1: And he didn't get any help tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he didn't.
Speaker 5: And the playmaker that we're speaking of, Honestly, I think
Speaker 5: as far as the receiver receivers are receivers are concerned,
Speaker 5: I think they're set there. But Patrick Mahomes has to
Speaker 5: stop running the ball so much. They need a premium
Speaker 5: to do the that Like when when I think about
Speaker 5: Breis Hall, I think Breese Hall might have had a
Speaker 5: chance to go there before before the deadline for for
Speaker 5: trade for trades. That would have been perfect for them.
Speaker 5: That would have been perfect for them. So a running
Speaker 5: back like a Jamior Gibbs, I'm saying, I'm not saying
Speaker 5: there's another Jamior Gibbs.
Speaker 4: Actually somebody like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, A chan running back like that that can
Speaker 5: that can actually hit his head off the goal post
Speaker 5: from anywhere, and every time he does get the ball,
Speaker 5: get the chance that something could happen. You know, that
Speaker 5: takes some of the pressure off of the homes not
Speaker 5: having to do so much with his arm all the time,
Speaker 5: and always happened to be superman and make the plays that.
Speaker 2: Because the thing is sometimes that you know, in the
Speaker 2: West Coast system, the short passing game is an extension
Speaker 2: of the run. They need the run. They don't need
Speaker 2: an extension of the run. They need to be able
Speaker 2: to run the football, and right now they can't. Now
Speaker 2: the offense line is beat to hell, and we understand
Speaker 2: that because you know, your right tackle is out, your
Speaker 2: left tackle went out, the guy that replaced him went out.
Speaker 2: So now you're down to your third guy at tackle
Speaker 2: and who's an undrafted free agent. Now you're right guard
Speaker 2: is out. Now you're down to your backup at right guard.
Speaker 2: So it's tough. It's tough. It's really tough. Go ahead, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Have a question. I don't know why his name is sipping
Speaker 4: my mind right now.
Speaker 5: The running back they used to play for the Candy
Speaker 5: Kansas City Chiefs towards a cl But before he towards
Speaker 5: a cl he was fast Jamal Charles, Jamal Charles. They
Speaker 5: that's what they need. They need another Jamal Charles or
Speaker 5: somebody like that. I mean, man, listen, Jamal get that ball.
Speaker 5: If he hit that edge, you get to that second level,
Speaker 5: you might.
Speaker 4: You might. The fat lady might as well sing. They
Speaker 4: need something like that. There's nothing like that in the draft.
Speaker 1: I don't think so either.
Speaker 5: So whoever, and whatever they do get, it has to
Speaker 5: be an off season acquisition. I have a good one
Speaker 5: for you right now. I think they need to do
Speaker 5: whatever whatever they need to do in the off sea.
Speaker 5: They need to go get an They need to go.
Speaker 2: No, not at this, not at this junction of his career.
Speaker 2: Too many catches, too many carriers on that body. He's
Speaker 2: not that guy anymore.
Speaker 1: Oo. He's serviceable, but he's not that Ojo no breeze
Speaker 1: hawks much.
Speaker 4: I'm good. He's much better than what they have that.
Speaker 2: You need, you need, you need a guy that you
Speaker 2: could really depend on. He's breaking down in Cansas, he's
Speaker 2: breaking down in New Orleans. Do you realize how many
Speaker 2: touches he has on his body?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, you realize how many how many touches?
Speaker 4: Derreck Henry? Yes, Look look what he did last year.
Speaker 1: He's not the same this year.
Speaker 2: And maybe that's because he's not getting the same opportunities
Speaker 2: as he got last year. I think me personally, I
Speaker 2: think they need a little bigger back.
Speaker 4: No, they got Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 2: They don't stop it. Come on now, we like, we
Speaker 2: love Kareem, We appreciate him coming on.
Speaker 4: When you said and you said that bigger back, but.
Speaker 2: A breeze Hall. They need that type of back. A
Speaker 2: guy that's being can run with power and run with speed. Okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: everybody look jamir Gil, but they also have David Montgomery.
Speaker 1: You look at look at the Green Bay.
Speaker 2: They got a two back system, Josh Josh Jacob and
Speaker 2: they got twenty three. I can't get his name out
Speaker 2: the top of my head. Look at look at the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Brian Robinson Jr. Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: Yeahs.
Speaker 2: So the Backs need to They've got to do. They
Speaker 2: gotta do some soul searching, they really do. And I
Speaker 2: thought Kansas City Defense played really well tonight.
Speaker 1: They weren't.
Speaker 2: I mean there are some times that they got through
Speaker 2: and they couldn't get a C. J on the ground
Speaker 2: and he made some play. But see, that's what happens
Speaker 2: when you when you bring pressure and you sacrifice your
Speaker 2: back in because you know, once McDuffie went out, they're
Speaker 2: okay back there, but they're not great. They they make
Speaker 2: they they make. They hate when they can bring when
Speaker 2: that that pressure can get there. If the pressure don't
Speaker 2: get there, guy's gonna be running open.
Speaker 5: You know. The bad thing about it is is for
Speaker 5: Spags having to make the adjustments with Trent McDuffie going out.
Speaker 5: When you do bring that pressure, McDuffie can lock down
Speaker 5: one side, he doesn't need any help, so you can
Speaker 5: bring all that pressure from the opposite side of the
Speaker 5: field knowing that Trip McDuffie's gonna take care of the side.
Speaker 5: But once he goes out, hey, yeah, you're backing and
Speaker 5: basically exposed. Which is why see this, Droud was able
Speaker 5: to make some of those plays despite him having a
Speaker 5: run for his life most of the God.
Speaker 2: Damn, You're like, you're right, you're right, but look, it's
Speaker 2: one of those years. The textas this is what the
Speaker 2: Texans defense did in the second half. They pick Mahomes
Speaker 2: off twice. I mean, he went like what nine straight
Speaker 2: passes that either the passes were either incomplete or they
Speaker 2: were intercepted twenty eight point six completion percent rate, and
Speaker 2: they had almost a forty two percent win rate. And
Speaker 2: when you look at it, the Houston Texas are now
Speaker 2: eight and five, they're in the eighth seed.
Speaker 1: Behind the Laker, behind the Chargers.
Speaker 2: But their game back, their game back of Jacksonville and
Speaker 2: they got they got three of their last four games
Speaker 2: or at home. They look they really they really do
Speaker 2: control their own destiny.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna talk about that Daniel Jones is
Speaker 2: gonna be lost for the season. They did him with
Speaker 2: this service. They did him a sign. A man's playing
Speaker 2: on a broken leg. So when you play on a
Speaker 2: broken leg, O, yoe, what do you do? You compensate.
Speaker 2: So when you compensate with the other side.
Speaker 4: Of your yeah, yeah, other parts of the body gonna
Speaker 4: compensate for that injury.
Speaker 1: Is just it's the.
Speaker 2: Same way as your car if you're tired, if going
Speaker 2: flat and you don't change it, you're gonna mess Instead
Speaker 2: of just getting that child, change that little donut.
Speaker 1: You're gonna mess up the rear end. That's not a body.
Speaker 1: The body was.
Speaker 2: But when you start walking side you know, now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, something else you're gonna knock something else
Speaker 2: out of way. But we'll talk about that just a second.
Speaker 2: But give give, give the Houston Texas credit. They haven't
Speaker 2: had a whole lot of success. Oh you're going into
Speaker 2: Kansas City, uh and winning, But they got the job
Speaker 2: done they needed to do. They needed to win this game.
Speaker 2: Give a Demico Ryans. I think he's a hell of
Speaker 2: a young coach. He's doing an unbelievable job with this team.
Speaker 2: He's got him playing extremely well. They're gonna be in
Speaker 2: every game because of that defense. As long as the
Speaker 2: offense arms way, they can get a little bit of consistency,
Speaker 2: a little bit of consistency with the run game. I think,
Speaker 2: you know, Nico Collins, I think you know, I think
Speaker 2: they got guys that can make can make some plays.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: What happened to Joe Mixon?
Speaker 1: He out for the season.
Speaker 2: He had an ankle injury or foot injury or something,
Speaker 2: and so he didn't he didn't do anything. And oh,
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything, and and O t A this
Speaker 2: this something you know, So he's done for the season. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: oh Joe the Titans. Titans beat the Browns but your
Speaker 2: door showing the very historic club doing his third NFL
Speaker 2: start Browns quarterback with three hundred pass yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and a rush touchdown in the same game since nineteen fifty.
Speaker 2: He's also the seventh rookie in the Super Bowl era
Speaker 2: to throw for three hundred and sixty yards have four
Speaker 2: total touchdowns, rush or pass in the same game, joining C. J. Stroud,
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Dejaun Watson, Marcus Mariota, Andrew Look and Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: But stop, but despite got me frustrated because.
Speaker 1: I'm a boy. I'm mad at. I'm mad at.
Speaker 2: In the wed hornet uh Stefanski took him out with
Speaker 2: the game on the line, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I don't understand?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, when you come, you're down fourteen, you score touchdown,
Speaker 2: you're at home? Why are you going for two? Kick
Speaker 2: the pat? And guess what, O Joe, you're down seven?
Speaker 2: Now you score touchdown to kick the pat? Guess what
Speaker 2: on Joe?
Speaker 1: We tied?
Speaker 4: H Yeah?
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, there's no there's no there's no explanation
Speaker 5: behind what the Fanski is doing.
Speaker 4: There's none, there's none at all.
Speaker 5: But what I can tell you is I can tell
Speaker 5: you that in job that in jobs Georgs was why
Speaker 5: he's making the calls that he's making. There's no reason
Speaker 5: you got six minutes left in the game, shoe door
Speaker 5: goes down, Sure goes down, and he scores.
Speaker 2: Why go for two? Wo Joe, you tell me I
Speaker 2: just need somebody when you down for that is you're
Speaker 2: at home. Even if you're down an even number, Why
Speaker 2: would you go for two?
Speaker 1: Because now if you get you're chasing points. You don't
Speaker 1: need to do that.
Speaker 5: Hold on for one as well as he was playing.
Speaker 5: Look at the numbers he put the day as well
Speaker 5: as he was playing all game long.
Speaker 4: Right, you want to put the ball in your.
Speaker 5: Best player's hands that has a hot that has a
Speaker 5: hot hand at the right time.
Speaker 1: Who is that?
Speaker 5: So if you are gonna go for two, if you're
Speaker 5: gonna make that decision to go for two, you put
Speaker 5: the ball in your quarterback's hands, who just drove you
Speaker 5: down not once, but twice on back to back drives
Speaker 5: to get you a chance to win the game, or
Speaker 5: at least time game.
Speaker 4: I think I was so confused by this. It had
Speaker 4: to make two phone calls.
Speaker 5: I had to make two phone calls the people who
Speaker 5: have been head coaches before, just to make sure I
Speaker 5: can get a better understanding and get a better perspective
Speaker 5: in context on what was being made. But obviously, even
Speaker 5: though they're not coaching anymore right now, even though they're
Speaker 5: not a part of the NFL right now, the answers
Speaker 5: they gave me were pc so they wouldn't give me
Speaker 5: what I really wanted to hear.
Speaker 4: And I'm not.
Speaker 5: Going to say any names, but Stefanski, I can't say
Speaker 5: anything about being fired because this is the reason why
Speaker 5: they didn't want your door starting in the first place.
Speaker 4: Because now you see.
Speaker 1: He just started at the beginning of the season. What
Speaker 1: could we have been?
Speaker 5: And U, I mean, this is exactly why they didn't
Speaker 5: want Tom start. This is exactly why he wouldn't get
Speaker 5: any refs because they understood what you would get once
Speaker 5: he gets there and he gets acclimated to the system
Speaker 5: with his players and it gets any kind of chemistry
Speaker 5: and continuity with that offense, this is what you get
Speaker 5: and the stuff you pulling when you get when you
Speaker 5: when you after you score and taking them out.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is not college.
Speaker 5: You're not running trick plays. You're not gonna fool anybody.
Speaker 5: The wildcat is not gonna work. This is not two
Speaker 5: thousand and seven. Ronnie Brown is back there.
Speaker 1: They tried to run the wildcat. Oo. They tried to
Speaker 1: run the wildcat.
Speaker 2: Look the reason why the Dolphins ran the Wildcats because
Speaker 2: that quarterback wasn't any good. You got a competent quarterback
Speaker 2: that's playing his ass off. I felt that he made
Speaker 2: probably one mistake tonight, O Joe, is that when he
Speaker 2: threw the ball up down the middle of the field
Speaker 2: when he was playing so well, and he didn't really
Speaker 2: need to do that, And that's why I let you
Speaker 2: do it. You're playing so well, you know you're not
Speaker 2: supposed to just eat the ball up down in the middle.
Speaker 1: Of the field.
Speaker 2: Other than that, Ojo, I thought this young man played
Speaker 2: extremely well.
Speaker 1: He was balling in the game.
Speaker 2: Throw with touch, the one he dropped down in the bucket,
Speaker 2: Ah man, he dropped it in the bucket. Good thing
Speaker 2: the bros that he had that we was giving a
Speaker 2: fan in junior. The one in the touch the Jerry
Speaker 2: Judy that he hit for sixty that basically the same
Speaker 2: played that he missed that he overshot him the game
Speaker 2: before hit him.
Speaker 5: The time, and I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad him
Speaker 5: and Judy got on that on that same page this week.
Speaker 5: I was I was happy to see that, But that
Speaker 5: God damn Fan and Jr.
Speaker 1: But he.
Speaker 5: Every every goddamn week, forty four popping up on them,
Speaker 5: every week forty four, popping up on film. I don't
Speaker 5: I don't know what they got out on, what kind
Speaker 5: of chemistry. I don't know if they stay out the
Speaker 5: practice and they and they work together. But every time
Speaker 5: the ball is in the air, he got he got there.
Speaker 2: Hey, what about the touch pass that he threw, the
Speaker 2: he retreating and through the touch paths and Joku, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean he has things that you just can't teach you. No, no,
Speaker 2: you can't have things you can't teach. And the funny
Speaker 2: thing about it, Go ahead, make your point. No, I
Speaker 2: was gonna say.
Speaker 5: What he lacks in mobility, he makes up in so
Speaker 5: many other areas when it comes to when it comes
Speaker 5: to being able to extend plays, being able to play
Speaker 5: off script, being able to being able to be accurate,
Speaker 5: being able to.
Speaker 4: Be accurate you know, on the run.
Speaker 5: He's phenomenal with that, and the fact that he looks
Speaker 5: as good and only a third start as bad as
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns team is not, defense team is offensively
Speaker 5: to have him in there and give him that spark
Speaker 5: to where now in each game they're competing us.
Speaker 4: Yes, theyre compete weekend and weekend.
Speaker 1: And he's he's and he's playing through his bull drive.
Speaker 5: Coach, Hey, matter of fact, maybe maybe maybe we can
Speaker 5: ask the chat even if you don't like your door,
Speaker 5: you know, even if you don't like the Browns, can
Speaker 5: you please give me the explanation in the chat why
Speaker 5: you take him out two drives back to back with
Speaker 5: opportunity to get closer and put point when points are
Speaker 5: a premium in a situation like this where you want
Speaker 5: to win a game, what I mean you you would
Speaker 5: think so fantasy would want to win the game, but
Speaker 5: some of the stuff, some of the play codes you
Speaker 5: haven't and situations like that you putting your team.
Speaker 4: In homes yea.
Speaker 2: For me, it was it was taking him out going
Speaker 2: to the wildcat when your best player, you know he
Speaker 2: needs to be on the field. But what I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I need somebody to explain him. Why did he go
Speaker 2: for two points on the first time he scored a touchdown.
Speaker 2: That's what I need to understand, because at that point
Speaker 2: in time on Joe, you don't need it. You don't
Speaker 2: need it. You don't And then so let me guess
Speaker 2: this SA So now we're down eight because we didn't
Speaker 2: we we were dumb.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe an ego had a rock and it dropped
Speaker 2: it on my and Stefanski's head. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: But so now we gotta go for two. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna take We're gonna take shaduor out and we're gonna
Speaker 2: run Wildcat. And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking. I'm thinking he was supposed to pitch it.
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was supposed to pitch it. He was supposed
Speaker 4: to come around and he was gonna throw it.
Speaker 2: I guess somebody else is gonna go out more pass
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean we're at this point in time on Joe,
Speaker 2: we we we just like everybody else.
Speaker 1: We had we had a loss for words.
Speaker 5: I'm confused, and the only way as a head coach,
Speaker 5: this is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy.
Speaker 5: This is how I knowing job is in jeopardy, because
Speaker 5: when your job is in jeopardy, you call plays that
Speaker 5: are conducive for you to look good as a head
Speaker 5: coach and with a quarterback plan as well as he
Speaker 5: was playing.
Speaker 4: Even if even if it one should do a quarterback.
Speaker 1: That has game, You're not taking him out.
Speaker 4: No, you're not taking hi out because your job is
Speaker 4: on the line.
Speaker 1: You're not taking him job is on the line.
Speaker 5: I need to do everything I can to show management
Speaker 5: and those that are in positions of power who can
Speaker 5: make the call on whether I stay or go. That's
Speaker 5: coming from the top. Matter of fact, we can't even
Speaker 5: blame the coach. This is the same situation. Who's the
Speaker 5: reason who took the fall for Luca getting traded again?
Speaker 5: Stefanski is basically Niko. The Stfanski is basically Nico Collumns.
Speaker 5: He's taking off, taking all the heat, but the call
Speaker 5: is coming from up above. Listen, whatever you do, whatever
Speaker 5: you need to do, Do whatever you need to do
Speaker 5: to make him look bad, because there's no why you're
Speaker 5: not trying to win.
Speaker 4: Are you trying to take purposely? Are you trying to.
Speaker 5: Make your team look bad purposely because that's exactly what
Speaker 5: you're doing, because you have every Cleveland Brown fan, every
Speaker 5: football fan, scratch your head about the decision making you
Speaker 5: making as a head coach.
Speaker 2: I've had people reach out to me and ask me,
Speaker 2: they don't even really know football like that, say why
Speaker 2: they take your do out because they.
Speaker 1: Say, we asked.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you because I know you know you
Speaker 2: played the game, you watch the game, you study the game.
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know. It's like you know something.
Speaker 2: I'm like, Damn, I aint a Cleveland I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hell if I do, I tweeted, it needs to be studied.
Speaker 2: They need a Hey, d OJ Department of Justice. I
Speaker 2: need y'all open up an investigation and what the hell
Speaker 2: is going on in Cleveland? What the hell is the
Speaker 2: FANSK doing? Because it makes no sense even if you
Speaker 2: want to run the wildcat, considering that your quarterback is
Speaker 2: playing at a he's on fire. He's hotter than bought
Speaker 2: Box was in a forest fire. That's how heart of
Speaker 2: you is, O Joe, and you take him out, You
Speaker 2: take him out to think about this, O Joe. You
Speaker 2: take him out to have somebody else throw a pass,
Speaker 2: because that that that's what it looked like.
Speaker 1: If you was gonna flip it to him, what was
Speaker 1: he gonna do? Run it?
Speaker 2: Or he was gonna run and put him and throw
Speaker 2: throw up a pull up and throw a pass. So
Speaker 2: that's what I list he was gonna throw up. Listen,
Speaker 2: he was gonna through. He was gonna throw it to somebody.
Speaker 2: If junkers it flipped the ball like it's supposed to. Obviously, misdirection.
Speaker 5: You know how well misdirection works when you're playing against
Speaker 5: the defense that's.
Speaker 4: Extremely aggressive, extremely aggressive.
Speaker 5: You're you're hoping somebody misses assignment and a and a
Speaker 5: in a back in a back or a receiver or
Speaker 5: a tight end, you know, leaks out and he's wide open.
Speaker 4: But it didn't happen. It didn't work. It didn't work that.
Speaker 2: I don't give I don't, I don't, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna go down and look
Speaker 2: if you you brought me this far, you brought me
Speaker 2: this far. Yeah, if this is as far as you
Speaker 2: can take us, what you bought a father than I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it. And
Speaker 4: I told you it doesn't make hard here's.
Speaker 2: What stepansk you said about going for two that last
Speaker 2: two point conversion.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Yes, so.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to happen on that last two point conversion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not going to get in all the specific cheff,
Speaker 6: but obviously did not go as we thought it.
Speaker 2: Would you make that call any time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I make every call. I make every call. Why would
Speaker 6: you take him off again? It's a two point play.
Speaker 6: Uh didn't come through on our first two point play.
Speaker 6: I got to the second two point play. We didn't
Speaker 6: come through. But that's that's all me that.
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 4: Was that play call?
Speaker 6: You times every I'm responsible for all of it.
Speaker 2: No, I thought I thought you turned over play calling duties.
Speaker 2: Now it's being reported Mary kay, I need you to call.
Speaker 2: I need you to let us know jump in the
Speaker 2: chat because it was reported that he turned the play
Speaker 2: call and over the time he reached right. So I
Speaker 2: know everything's on you and you don't want to get
Speaker 2: into it. Get into it. What went into your thinking
Speaker 2: that when your door Sanders had led you that back
Speaker 2: from fourteen down, he had led you back. What made
Speaker 2: what went into the decision to take him off the
Speaker 2: field and potentially have someone else throw a two point conversion.
Speaker 1: What went into your decision? Go hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 5: Not only half someone else throw the two point conversion?
Speaker 5: Half someone else throw the two point conversion. That wasn't
Speaker 5: your quarterback, that was on fire like he was playing
Speaker 5: NBA jams.
Speaker 4: Hold on a.
Speaker 5: Play like that in college, I understand it. Yes, I understand,
Speaker 5: because they don't see it coming. In the NFL, it's
Speaker 5: not working. That's a play for the movie The Long Yard,
Speaker 5: or maybe on Thanksgiving and you got you in the
Speaker 5: goddamn Turkey Bowl.
Speaker 4: That's what it's for, or maybe the movie Waterboy.
Speaker 5: That's when you run a play like that, not with
Speaker 5: a game on the line that you're actually trying to
Speaker 5: win and compete.
Speaker 1: What are we doing?
Speaker 4: I swear for God on my mama recipeace. I had
Speaker 4: to call two of my.
Speaker 5: Former coaches to get a better perspective on what they
Speaker 5: were doing.
Speaker 4: Because you've been a head.
Speaker 5: Coach, Please explain to me you've been in that position before.
Speaker 5: If that was you, why do you call a play
Speaker 5: like that? And of course they wouldn't give me an answer.
Speaker 5: They wanted to keep it pc like.
Speaker 2: Why you should have been in that situation, because you
Speaker 2: should have kicked the pat to begin with, Why the
Speaker 2: hell you go for two on the first pat? You're
Speaker 2: only down fourteen, You're down an even number, So why
Speaker 2: the hell are you going? Why are you hell? Are
Speaker 2: you going for two on the first pat? If you
Speaker 2: just kick it now, you're down seven, Now you don't
Speaker 2: have to chase the second point.
Speaker 1: That's what makes no sense to me. Nothing.
Speaker 2: First of all, it didn't make who he started. He
Speaker 2: went with FLACKO.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, they said Dylan Gable that drafted him.
Speaker 2: In the third round. Okay, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2: We can't go back in time undo what's already done.
Speaker 2: But moving forward, the guy gives you a great opportunity
Speaker 2: to win, a great opportunity. He's playing his ass off,
Speaker 2: and you undercut him by taking him off the field.
Speaker 2: You undercut him by going for two when it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to use the word sabotage, but I will say
Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand your rationale and your thought process.
Speaker 2: What goes into going for two the first time? When
Speaker 2: you're only down fourteen, you kick the pat? You're down seven. Okay,
Speaker 2: now you're down eight because you didn't get the first
Speaker 2: pat I mean the first two point conversion. So now
Speaker 2: you're down eight, you gotta go for it. What goes
Speaker 2: into a rationale after you see what your quarterback has done?
Speaker 2: Why would you take him off the field? And as
Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't play the position, do you really are
Speaker 2: you really really trusting someone that hasn't thrown a pass
Speaker 2: to throw a pass in that situation, in that moment
Speaker 2: at that jumps out of game?
Speaker 1: You really want to do that? O Joe? Is that
Speaker 1: really what you want to do? Chat? Hey don't know.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: They're doing that on purpose.
Speaker 5: They're doing it on purpose, and it's just not this
Speaker 5: Just just think about since training camp. Just think about
Speaker 5: all the games they've continued to play, their organization has
Speaker 5: continued to play.
Speaker 4: You know what you're doing? Just in general, they did
Speaker 4: not want young.
Speaker 5: Bull to be a starter because they understood if he
Speaker 5: gets the opportunity to play, the numbers you see him
Speaker 5: putting him up, putting them up, putting up him getting
Speaker 5: an opportunity to play, he's going to give them their
Speaker 5: best chance to win. They don't want to win what
Speaker 5: if they do want to win, they don't want to
Speaker 5: win with him behind center. That's the only answer I
Speaker 5: can think of for you to be pulling that kind
Speaker 5: of bull drive I saw out there today as a
Speaker 5: former player, as a football fan, as a fan of
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: This is for anybody, for any team, for any quarterback.
Speaker 5: You always want to put your quarterback and your team
Speaker 5: in the best positions to win, because that's the point
Speaker 5: of at the point of playing this game, you want
Speaker 5: to win, and that that shit, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: That he pulled. The day was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: On the downside, I was disappointed in Cleveland's defense rush defense.
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard had twenty five carries for a buck sixty one,
Speaker 2: had a sixty five yard run, had another long run.
Speaker 2: They've got to do a better job of stopping to
Speaker 2: run and so now we can put more pressure on
Speaker 2: cam Ward. But when you're in second, when you're second
Speaker 2: and short, you're third and short, it's hard to rush
Speaker 2: the quarterback Ojoe when you in short down in d
Speaker 2: because you don't know they can run it. Now, if
Speaker 2: we got it second and long, we got it third
Speaker 2: and long. Now we can Now we can unleash Myles Garrett.
Speaker 2: Now we can unleash some of these rushers. But I
Speaker 2: just need somebody to tell me. I need I need
Speaker 2: someone to explain to me, and I need you to
Speaker 2: explain it to me as if I'm a seven year old.
Speaker 2: So if like a kid going to it father and
Speaker 2: he's asking him a question, father, that's what I need
Speaker 2: somebody to explain it to me, because it makes no
Speaker 2: sense as a guy, oh Joe, guys that played the game,
Speaker 2: as a guy that studied the game, and I'm that's
Speaker 2: what I do. I don't look at I don't look
Speaker 2: at touchdown. I'm glad they scored. I'm looking at how
Speaker 2: they scored. I'm looking at why they scored. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at what did the defense do. I'm looking at what
Speaker 2: play was called? What personnel were you in so I
Speaker 2: can have a better understanding and sees, Okay, I saw
Speaker 2: what this worked.
Speaker 1: But when you to do this, it makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can I say one thing.
Speaker 5: Also, Let's say the Cleveland Brown defense, they've been playing
Speaker 5: they ass off all season. They've been playing their ass
Speaker 5: off all season. They've been stopping the run, they've been
Speaker 5: stopping the past. So you know what you come to
Speaker 5: a game where now we need the offense. When we
Speaker 5: was down fourteen, God damn it, the offense showed up.
Speaker 5: The offense showed up. They showed up. Miles Garrett got
Speaker 5: to be pissed. Denzel Ward Dell pitted. They have to
Speaker 5: be pissed because I know they see it. I know
Speaker 5: if they I know anybody was miked up. I know
Speaker 5: on the sideline. If you can hear the defensive player
Speaker 5: and talking, they'd be like, man, what the hell are
Speaker 5: we doing? What the hell are we doing? Okay, they're
Speaker 5: running the ball on us. Now, this is one of
Speaker 5: the few games we need our offense to have our back.
Speaker 5: Long bee, motherfucking hole. The offense had they back with.
Speaker 4: A position twice, two different drives, drove down the field,
Speaker 4: we scored, we go for two. What we get the
Speaker 4: ball back.
Speaker 5: Go right back down the field again, and we do
Speaker 5: the same bullshit again. They got to be pissed. But
Speaker 5: they can't say nothing. They're not gonna say nothing. They
Speaker 5: know it's some bull drive.
Speaker 4: But players in that locker room they can't see anything.
Speaker 4: But they can see. Yeah, they can see. They can
Speaker 4: see clear day. They know what's going on. They know
Speaker 4: what's going on.
Speaker 5: But if I can see it and them all the
Speaker 5: way down here Miami, a thousand something miles away, come on.
Speaker 2: We know who can come on chat. We know who
Speaker 2: can play and who can't play. When you're in the
Speaker 2: locker room, you know exactly who can play, and we
Speaker 2: know exactly who can't play. I don't care what coach does.
Speaker 2: I don't care how much money you make. I don't
Speaker 2: care where you were drafted. I know if you can
Speaker 2: play or not because I see you every day. They
Speaker 2: know sdor Sanders can play. They believe in Shador. The
Speaker 2: greatest thing your teammates can do is have a belief
Speaker 2: in you can trust you. I just it doesn't make sense,
Speaker 2: they say. The only difference between truth and fiction is
Speaker 2: that fiction has to make sense. So when you're doing
Speaker 2: a story Ojo, fiction has to make sense because we
Speaker 2: know truth. The people do stuff. They're like, that can't
Speaker 2: be true. That's got to be AI. And when I
Speaker 2: saw the going I was like this, Hell if somebody
Speaker 2: would have told me, I said, that's AI. I'm watching
Speaker 2: it in real time, so I know it can b
Speaker 2: a I because I'm sitting there watching it. That's got
Speaker 2: that you got you got to be issuing me. Stefanski.
Speaker 2: I know this man. I think he's been the coach
Speaker 2: for five years, six years. He's a two time Coach
Speaker 2: of the Year, coach of the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more than competent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is how you know.
Speaker 1: But sometimes the smartest people are the biggest dummies.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not We're not gonna make
Speaker 5: no excuses. He's not dumb. He not dumb. He's not dumb.
Speaker 5: And this is not analytics. It ain't about numbers, it's
Speaker 5: ain't about computers. This is what I like to call
Speaker 5: sophisticated tankingbody my point exactly, because that's not the person
Speaker 5: they wanted to.
Speaker 1: Have the argument. O Joe, you're tanking for.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Mendoza, the quarterback in i U
Speaker 2: is is substantially better than your door, dude, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: And they think, what if a quarterback is out there?
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm trying to think chance, y'all help us out.
Speaker 2: Do y'all think any of the quarterbacks that you're oh
Speaker 2: sailing saying, excuse me for Ohio State? Is there's something
Speaker 2: if there's somebody that we're that that we're tied Simpson,
Speaker 2: Gunna Stockton is there's somebody that we don't know that
Speaker 2: you think right now that gonna come into the league
Speaker 2: and that would be substantially better than your door.
Speaker 5: Are we forgetting what the owner said? The GM said,
Speaker 5: he was not my pick. This is not who I
Speaker 5: wanted publicly. Those are the type of things that you
Speaker 5: don't say out loud. Those are the things that you
Speaker 5: think in your head, that you tell those amongst you
Speaker 5: that sit up there in the seats with.
Speaker 4: The ties and the jackets on. You don't say it
Speaker 4: in front of the camera. You don't. That is why
Speaker 4: things are going the way they're going.
Speaker 5: If unfortunately you got to a situation where now he
Speaker 5: has to start. Now he has to start, and there's
Speaker 5: a reason why you didn't want to start, because you
Speaker 5: understood if he got in there with ample time, with
Speaker 5: the right reps, this is what you get. This is
Speaker 5: what you get when opportunity meets preparation. This is the
Speaker 5: shit you get.
Speaker 4: So what do we have to do on my end?
Speaker 4: Nico Collins, who.
Speaker 5: Is basically Stefanski right now in situation, Oh, we go
Speaker 5: down on two scores. I'm gonna go for I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go for two. That ain't Stefanski doing that. That's not
Speaker 5: him calling that. That's coming from a higher power.
Speaker 1: Man, Dad ojo.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You just watching the game.
Speaker 2: I take the names out the back of the jerseys.
Speaker 2: I take the color you colorblind, and you can't sleep
Speaker 2: which quarterback I played the other quarterback today?
Speaker 1: You don't chat, You don't know the names.
Speaker 2: I took the names off the back of the jerseys,
Speaker 2: and you can't tell the colors. You don't know which
Speaker 2: one of the Browns, and you don't know which one
Speaker 2: of the Titans. All you do you just watching the game.
Speaker 2: You don't know nothing. There's no sound. You watch the
Speaker 2: game just like I do with no sound. Who played
Speaker 2: the best? Yes you met Nico Harrison, not Nico Collins.
Speaker 5: Uh if if you just if you just watch the game,
Speaker 5: the poison what he played with?
Speaker 2: Yes, there is there some there's some habits. He's gonna
Speaker 2: have to break that bubbling. It's okay for him sometime
Speaker 2: to step up in the pocket and to step up
Speaker 2: as opposed to bubbling all the time.
Speaker 1: But look, he's a young quarterback and that's gonna come.
Speaker 1: I get.
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give him another year or two. But
Speaker 2: I think he had the tools to be a very
Speaker 2: good quarterback in this in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: But I think he needs somebody that believes in him.
Speaker 2: I think he needs somebody in his corner. And I'm
Speaker 2: not so sure that the Browns organization is in his corner.
Speaker 2: I think they're playing it. I think that the fan
Speaker 2: is so Insurdure's corner. I don't really think they have
Speaker 2: a choice.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: They didn't see this, They didn't think he could do this.
Speaker 2: And the people that's hating only don't think he didn't
Speaker 2: think he could do that. That's a damn good Titans defense.
Speaker 2: That's a damn good Titans defense. And he just threw
Speaker 2: for that almost four hundred yards with four total touchdowns. Yes,
Speaker 2: he had a bad interception, but he played unbelievable for
Speaker 2: his third career start. Hold on, let me go back
Speaker 2: up here the guys. Hold on, where's the guys that
Speaker 2: had thrown for.
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow number one overall, Andrew Luck number one overall,
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford number one overall, Marcus Mariota number two overall,
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud number two overall, Deshaun Watson, a top
Speaker 2: twenty pick. He just did what those guys did. Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow number one, Andrew Luck number one, Matthew's Stafford number one,
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck number two.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was number one.
Speaker 2: Stafford was number one, Joe Burrow was number one, three
Speaker 2: number one picks. C J. Stroud was number two, Marcus
Speaker 2: Mariota was number two. So he just did something that
Speaker 2: three number ones, two number two's, and a top twenty quarterback,
Speaker 2: the only one that's ever did in the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2: I'm playing Super Bowls for longer than I've been alive,
Speaker 2: and I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 1: A fifth rounder did that.
Speaker 4: He wasn't no fifth round talent.
Speaker 1: You know that.
Speaker 4: They knew that. But who they got? Who they got
Speaker 4: next week?
Speaker 2: Who the Cleveland play next week? They got the Bears
Speaker 2: in Chicago. We got to work cut Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. Uh.
Speaker 2: Here are the quarterbacks that have played the Titans this season,
Speaker 2: uh Shirdeor Sanders has thrown for the most yards three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford two ninety eight.
Speaker 2: That's Davis Mills two seventy four, Justin Herbert two fifty,
Speaker 2: Sam Donald to forty four, c J. Stroud two thirty three,
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence two twenty nine, Drake May twenty two, Kyler
Speaker 2: Murray two twenty, bow Knicks one hundred and seventy six.
Speaker 2: Look at that list, Chat.
Speaker 1: Jones.
Speaker 2: Oh uh yeah, Okay. The only guy that has thrown
Speaker 2: for more was Daniel Jones. Matthew Stafford number one pick.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald was a top three pick.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 1: Strid was the top three pick. Trevor Lawrence was a
Speaker 1: number one pick. C J.
Speaker 2: Strid was number two. Kyler Murray's number one bow Knicks
Speaker 2: was the top pick.
Speaker 1: Look at this.
Speaker 2: Look get all these guys up here, and look at
Speaker 2: where they were drafted, and look at what this fifth
Speaker 2: round kid did.
Speaker 1: And they bullgiving him. Sometimes sometimes.
Speaker 2: You know, they say, oh, you're a man can make
Speaker 2: his destiny on the road that he took to avoid it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I can make my destiny. Or even though obstacles
Speaker 2: you placed in front of me, it might take me
Speaker 2: a little longer, it might have took me ten weeks,
Speaker 2: but I got there in spite of what you tried
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: God, say, Bob before me, and I stand for you.
Speaker 2: And if I stand for you, can't no man stand
Speaker 2: against you. I need somebody to tell me chat.
Speaker 1: Where y'all? I need you.
Speaker 2: I need you, guys, get on. What what that ask
Speaker 2: A ask? A? I ask grok grok ask Why the
Speaker 2: hell does JASKI do what he need? I need y'all
Speaker 2: to ask a as chat gp chat GPT.
Speaker 1: That's what as chack chat GPT. What the hell was
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Dylan Gabras should be suspended for that
Speaker 2: bold face lie he told his fiance. Ah, man, I
Speaker 2: still can't believe this. I can't believe they did this bad.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine if this man would
Speaker 2: have come back and won this game?
Speaker 1: O Joe? What may they throw the ticket taper raade
Speaker 1: for this man in Cleveland?
Speaker 4: That's not They didn't want that. They didn't want that.
Speaker 5: They didn't want that because if they wanted that, they
Speaker 5: were to put him in position to do just that.
Speaker 4: They would have put him in position to do that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just he's still feeling out the guys.
Speaker 2: It seems like he has a great rapport with Fanning Junior.
Speaker 1: But he hey, man, he was he was he was
Speaker 1: he was he was he was special.
Speaker 2: Today Hopefully this is something gives him a little bit
Speaker 2: more confident. I know he's a very confident in young man.
Speaker 2: You don't play, you don't be in the Sander's house
Speaker 2: without being confident. Because we know his dad has the
Speaker 2: utmost confidence, and I think he instilled that in his kids.
Speaker 2: And he's been a starter since high school. He started
Speaker 2: every game in college for the most part. And he
Speaker 2: knows he belongs. He knows he belongs. But sometimes it
Speaker 2: takes somebody believe it in you too, Oh Joe, that's
Speaker 2: gonna put you in the best situations. Keep your head
Speaker 2: up your door. You play jazz off today. After critical
Speaker 2: two twenty seven twenty two loss to the Steelers, many
Speaker 2: of the Ravens questioned the call made by the referees,
Speaker 2: notably an overturned touchdown reception by Isaiah Likely in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. The referee and initially ruled Likely scored a
Speaker 2: thirteen yard touchdown pass from Lamar Jackson, which would have
Speaker 2: given the Ravens a one point league with two forty
Speaker 2: three remaining, despite the tight end losing the ball in
Speaker 2: the end zone, but less than a minute later, referee
Speaker 2: Alex Moore announced it was incomplete. Likely had the ball
Speaker 2: punched out by Joey Porter Jr. Before he made the
Speaker 2: necessary third step in the end zone. De Howk tweeted
Speaker 2: and deleted NFL and officiated thirteen years in this league.
Speaker 2: How many steps do you need in the end zone
Speaker 2: for a touchdown? It took me.
Speaker 1: How lett you take it?
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, you know the rule. I know
Speaker 5: the rule a catch. For a ketch to be completed,
Speaker 5: you have to take three steps. He took two, and
Speaker 5: on that third one out. Yeah, the ball got punched out.
Speaker 5: So technically, if that was in the field of play,
Speaker 5: or if it was an end zone, it was still
Speaker 5: would have been an incomplete pass.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, understanding the rules and knowing.
Speaker 5: That he had he had possession, but you have to
Speaker 5: complete the catch with momentum and take that third step.
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate, and I mean they didn't. They didn't win
Speaker 5: the game. Goddamn. Aaron Rodgers was dealing today. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: was dealing today. It wasn't just just that that play.
Speaker 5: I mean, there were other players that could have been
Speaker 5: made that could have changed the trajectory of that game
Speaker 5: for the Ravens as well. But hell, you got to
Speaker 5: get a Steeler's credit.
Speaker 2: How many times likely are you going to get the
Speaker 2: ball punched out? Remember, oh Joe, he tried to switch
Speaker 2: the ball against Cincinnati and he got it knocked out.
Speaker 2: Now go back and look at the first touchdown that
Speaker 2: he got and see what he did. He secured it.
Speaker 2: How many you don't get style points for touchdown? He
Speaker 2: was doing this all he had to do with security.
Speaker 2: He had it just like this here? Why because it
Speaker 2: looked cool. How many times you saw him on thirst
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving he did the same thing and got it knocked
Speaker 2: out and it was a touch back? So how many
Speaker 2: times actions with our consequences, no lesson and be learned.
Speaker 2: You would have bought the action that he had Thursday
Speaker 2: night on Thanksgiving would have taught him a lesson because
Speaker 2: it was a valuable lesson to learn because the consequences
Speaker 2: was it was a touchback and not a touchdown.
Speaker 1: But guess what he didn't.
Speaker 5: Learn, Yeah, trying to hold trying to hold that thing. Yes,
Speaker 5: grab it, man, bring it there, because I'll tell you
Speaker 5: one thing. Once you grab and bring it in, tuck
Speaker 5: and make it that much more difficult to get it
Speaker 5: out of there, and make it that much more.
Speaker 4: Forget about it, and you don't.
Speaker 5: You don't have to stress holding on to it, that
Speaker 5: damn type with somebody trying to fight through your hands.
Speaker 1: Chat.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the first touchdown. Go back
Speaker 2: and look at the first touchdown, and see what he
Speaker 2: did when he caught it. He made sure he's security.
Speaker 2: It wasn't nobody really around him. Now this guy's on
Speaker 2: his tail. He could feel it because you know, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you know when I broke away because I ran, I
Speaker 2: ran a little. I ain't gonna and the guys already
Speaker 2: outside leverage, so I know he's gonna be driving hard.
Speaker 1: I already know that. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: Lamar had some drops, But Lamar's not throwing the football well,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, he had Za Flyers on a touchdown and
Speaker 2: he undershot him and he threw it behind him and
Speaker 2: the guy knocked it, got it out. They was parted,
Speaker 2: like put it out there. He had him Rashan Bateman.
Speaker 2: He had it was fourth I think it was third down.
Speaker 1: He hit him.
Speaker 2: He dropped it. Yeah, but Lamar's not playing well. Y'all
Speaker 2: know that ain't no sense. I'm not breaking news to you.
Speaker 2: I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled programming. Breaking news to you.
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson isn't playing well.
Speaker 1: He's just not.
Speaker 2: And a lot of that has to do with your
Speaker 2: left guard. He's terrible and chad, I know so time.
Speaker 2: My bluntness is not the best. But he's not good.
Speaker 2: That left guard is not good. I mean, he ain't.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to be that big and that sorry.
Speaker 2: That needs to be that need to be a prerequisite.
Speaker 2: If you just big, you got to be good. This
Speaker 2: man song, he k blocked the sun out of his eyes,
Speaker 2: let alone a defensive line with an extra bla bliss coming.
Speaker 4: Let me let me what what number is he don't
Speaker 4: say seventy seven?
Speaker 1: Seventy seven for late yeah, yeah yeah, but he for
Speaker 1: late fish for late yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: I been listen on film. He is always he's always
Speaker 5: at the scene of a crime. And I mean no
Speaker 5: dish seventy seven yet yeah. On the on the games
Speaker 5: that I've seen, it's always him, always the same one.
Speaker 5: I think I think he's better at run blocking as
Speaker 5: I think he's better as a run blocker as opposed.
Speaker 2: To bring he bring his ass in on fourth down,
Speaker 2: fourth and one fourth and two. But most of the
Speaker 2: way the teams are set up. Now, oh Joe, you
Speaker 2: got to throw the ball at some point in time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to throw it at some point in time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He's that's that's his strength.
Speaker 5: That that has to be a strength, you know when
Speaker 5: it comes to the run, because it's past blocking. Uh uh,
Speaker 5: always at the scene of the crime every time.
Speaker 2: It's being reported that Lamar Jackson had a heated interaction
Speaker 2: on the sideline with Daniel Filllele after the interception per
Speaker 2: Tracy Wolfson at this point, So, oh Joe, let me
Speaker 2: ask you this. If as sad as he's been playing
Speaker 2: this entire season, how bad must his backup be?
Speaker 1: Mhm, Chad, y'all need to help me out.
Speaker 2: If he's this bad, he's so bad that you can't
Speaker 2: mention how bad. But he no, I need somebody to
Speaker 2: help me. Ain't no way to backup can be that
Speaker 2: bad because at the backup that band, he ain't even
Speaker 2: high school player. I mean, how you oh yo, how
Speaker 2: you passed it and you don't block nobody? Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean to be that big. I mean the sun rides
Speaker 2: up and the sun shines. He can't even block the
Speaker 2: sun out of his eyes. Oh yo, sun blind him.
Speaker 2: He just walked right into the wall because he can't
Speaker 2: do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah he got he got his shot. He he a
Speaker 4: big boy too.
Speaker 1: Now big and tale. Damn he's as big as he is. Sorry.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's your that's your team that lost
Speaker 4: to now.
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa.
Speaker 4: Oh yo, hey, hey that's your team. That's your team
Speaker 4: that lost.
Speaker 1: You know, like used to tell us his son, you
Speaker 1: can't be old and slow. Pick one. You can't be big.
Speaker 4: And sorry, right, Yeah, you gotta have a shit on.
Speaker 2: Small and sorry. You can be big and good. You
Speaker 2: can be old, but you can't be so you gotta
Speaker 2: pick one.
Speaker 1: You can't be.
Speaker 2: Both b onfl both he both he big and sorry
Speaker 2: for no reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: How you go out? How you go out? You go
Speaker 2: to the grocery store with your wife or your girlfriend.
Speaker 2: How you go get games?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: In publics?
Speaker 1: I know? Damn well. Ain't nobody ever told him this
Speaker 1: year good game? They lied?
Speaker 2: If they did, you go into hells. If you told
Speaker 2: that man good game, you lied to his face.
Speaker 1: And he know it. Everybody know when they play like
Speaker 1: some stir fry. Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably he's probably not playing with confidence
Speaker 5: right now. He's probably not playing in the fact that
Speaker 5: and if there was an altercation and you get into
Speaker 5: it where your quarterback, where your quarterback has to address
Speaker 5: you know, you not doing well in the game, that
Speaker 5: that that will hurt your confidence even more.
Speaker 1: They putting their helmet in my back. That's hurting me.
Speaker 1: He should have sucker style and kicked him anything.
Speaker 2: You know, he waited when he been up with Lamar,
Speaker 2: walked up, go up from the center, kicked him in
Speaker 2: his tail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that really happens too. You never see
Speaker 5: a quarterback really chastise this office.
Speaker 4: When they get hurt. That that really really really happened.
Speaker 5: No matter how many times it gets sacked, to get hit,
Speaker 5: that really happens. So the fact that Lamar had to
Speaker 5: be really frustrated, really frustrated from me even addressed end game.
Speaker 2: Because guess what, how many times have because normally quarterback said,
Speaker 2: come on, guys, we got to do better than this now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: how many times during the course of this your chat
Speaker 2: do you think Lamar jacket that said, come on, guys,
Speaker 2: need to pick it up. Hey, come on, hey, come on,
Speaker 2: come on. Hold on what his dame? Mils? What's his name? Daniel?
Speaker 2: Come on dad, Hey, come on, we'll hey, we gonna
Speaker 2: get him. Were gonna be all right? And come on dad,
Speaker 2: were gonna get it. We're gonna be out if I'm Lamar, no,
Speaker 2: we not this man.
Speaker 1: Gonna get me killed? What they shouldn't do?
Speaker 2: Lamar say, you know what, I will go play guard
Speaker 2: and I want you to play quarterback. And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do to you what you've been doing to me. I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna block a damn soul and I want him
Speaker 2: to tell your ass up. We had that halfway and
Speaker 2: as a battle state guard didn't mister block coach, I
Speaker 2: tell you what, hey, you get here, you get there?
Speaker 1: Literally? How you see? How you like it?
Speaker 3: M M.
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, you know, without Joe, at
Speaker 2: some point in time, you say, you know what, damn this?
Speaker 2: You not finna whip my ass all day every day?
Speaker 1: Don't you got forgetting the raven? What about that name
Speaker 1: of the back that I was just and darkening? You're
Speaker 1: gonna know what it is? Put me in witness a
Speaker 1: man that you seven seventh that ain't me?
Speaker 5: That's on film that's on film. Everybody can see that.
Speaker 5: Like when when when all the teams you get to play,
Speaker 5: all the teams you get to play.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when we.
Speaker 5: Line up, we run our ts and our stunts right there,
Speaker 5: right at seventy five.
Speaker 4: That's the fish.
Speaker 5: Everybody got a fish on offense, fish on defense. Everybody
Speaker 5: has a weak link. And the week link offensively is
Speaker 5: young bull. I mean that that's that's that's I mean
Speaker 5: that every team has one.
Speaker 4: It just so happens. His is very glaring and it's
Speaker 4: noticeable every fing game, every game you.
Speaker 2: Catch y'all been fishing. When you get a fish, when
Speaker 2: you get him on the line, what you can't do? Ojo,
Speaker 2: let him up the hook. Yeah, yeah, I don't ojo.
Speaker 2: I don't want to beat him too bad early because
Speaker 2: I don't want to get it benched. Because see if
Speaker 2: I beat him too early, gonna bitch it. See, I'm
Speaker 2: away to the right time. I'm waiting to get to
Speaker 2: the four quarter. That's what I'm really start tearing his
Speaker 2: ass up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know them more frustrated, Man, I frustrated,
Speaker 4: and I ain't.
Speaker 1: Got hit in twenty years.
Speaker 2: And oh Joe, it was the twenty fifth anniversary of
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl team. They gotta let him and checkings
Speaker 2: out there. Boy, you know, if I'd have been down
Speaker 2: and ran in the field you, I'd have ran out.
Speaker 1: There with you. You terrible?
Speaker 4: Why you why you ain't go? Uh?
Speaker 1: Long story, I explained it to you a man.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: This joke, got what this joke? Yeah, this is why
Speaker 1: I couldn't coach.
Speaker 5: Well, actually, wait a minute, wait a minute, and I
Speaker 5: see that that's one thing about it. Now, God always
Speaker 5: has a call in huh. And most of the time
Speaker 5: he had knocked on your door. In the fact that
Speaker 5: you don't answer the door, maybe that's the problem, the
Speaker 5: fact that maybe if you were coaching, if you were
Speaker 5: coaching the Baltimore Ravens day, it wouldn't be playing like this.
Speaker 5: He probably wouldn't be playing like this. If hearing it
Speaker 5: from you would redister better than hearing it from who
Speaker 5: his coach, whoever his coach is right, you heard it
Speaker 5: from Lamar. It's too late to hear from that Chad.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, in all my years, rarely
Speaker 2: never the single out any offensive linement individually.
Speaker 1: He always does it as a group. Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: we gotta do better. Than this. Come on, guys, we
Speaker 1: gotta pick it up. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying if you was my coach when I
Speaker 5: was playing, I would I would listen to you. I
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't have had no celebrations. I would have hand
Speaker 5: the ball right to the ref.
Speaker 4: I'm lying, uh.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm a coach him. I said, look at sir,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen. I really don't. But
Speaker 2: I did make a recommendation that we cut you, just
Speaker 2: so we clear that's my recommendation. Hey, hold on, I recommend.
Speaker 2: That's what I recommended. I don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 2: because it's it's out of my hands. But I did
Speaker 2: recommend this morning that we cut you.
Speaker 4: It ain't that many good line he ain't one of them.
Speaker 2: So you're right, you right, you right, person of ballcas
Speaker 2: person brodcast Lamar threw his helmet down after the last
Speaker 2: offensive series and then had a conversation with Daniel Filelele,
Speaker 2: who said, they know it's coming every time. What, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you got two options on the football field as an offense.
Speaker 2: You can run it or you can throw it. So
Speaker 2: they got a fifty to fifty chance, I guess it.
Speaker 2: What the hell you're gonna do? What you mean it
Speaker 2: ain't rocket science? Yeah, if it's first second or third down,
Speaker 2: what the hell you think they're gonna do. Oh they
Speaker 2: might punt it, Oh they might let Lamar take it off.
Speaker 2: They gonna throw it, or they're gonna run it. Those
Speaker 2: are the only two choices that an offense half on.
Speaker 2: First second to third down. And he's gonna talk about
Speaker 2: they know what's coming.
Speaker 4: That all that all comes down to want to.
Speaker 5: That all come down to want to Even if you
Speaker 5: know what's coming, Even if you know what's coming, you
Speaker 5: ain't finna get past me. If you do sack Lamar,
Speaker 5: if you dig it, if you do get to Lamar,
Speaker 5: it ain't gonna be on me. It's not gonna be
Speaker 5: my fault. I'm definitely not gonna be the reason. I
Speaker 5: will never be the problem. I will always be the solution.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's just that's everybody's built different mentally. That's
Speaker 5: my mentality.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if I played off as a line, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be the problem.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if he's a solution, what's the
Speaker 2: problem If he to answer what's the question.
Speaker 5: It ain't that many, it ain't that many linemen on
Speaker 5: They you can't just pop them off trees like that.
Speaker 2: They're alignment worse than what he is. It's hard for
Speaker 2: me to believe that. On youall, I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 5: Well, you can't hide him, No, you can't hide him.
Speaker 5: You can't hide him most of the time. The other players,
Speaker 5: other teams, the where they're structured. You can hide your fish.
Speaker 5: You can hide your fish. You can hide your weak link.
Speaker 5: You know, you can help you weak link double team,
Speaker 5: you know, run away from him when you do throw,
Speaker 5: have protection, slide his way.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ugh.
Speaker 2: There're a crowd of reporters waiting for Daniel Fillel a locker,
Speaker 2: but the media policy is general not to talk to
Speaker 2: players before they're fully dressed. For La with shirtless, took
Speaker 2: his shirt in his hand, nodded to the reporters, walked off.
Speaker 2: He did not return for questions. Let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question, O Joe, they win that game, you think
Speaker 2: he does this?
Speaker 4: No, probably not, probably not.
Speaker 5: But he understanding the questions that we're gonna come, especially
Speaker 5: with the incident with Lamar, he didn't want to say anything.
Speaker 2: Got to be as gracious in defeat as you are
Speaker 2: in victory. That's a part of it. Nobody is gonna
Speaker 2: win every game. Nobody is gonna play great every game.
Speaker 2: But a part of being a pro is standing there
Speaker 2: and facing the very tough questions. But see when they
Speaker 2: ran for three hundred yards? He answered, He stood there
Speaker 2: and looked down the battle of it. Couldn't hey, anybody
Speaker 2: else got it?
Speaker 5: They want to ask, And you know what, I'm kind
Speaker 5: of glad, honestly, especially when it comes to lineman. You
Speaker 5: get into a few with a quarterback. You guys have
Speaker 5: a disagreement on the sideline. I'm glad he didn't answer
Speaker 5: any questions because it ain't no telling what he.
Speaker 4: Might have said. He might not be media savvy. He
Speaker 4: might still have been angry. He might have said the
Speaker 4: wrong goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: Short of him said I sucked today. I ain't want
Speaker 2: to hear nothing he had to say. If that was
Speaker 2: the first thing came out of his mouth, and it's okay,
Speaker 2: oh yoke, Hey, guys, today wasn't my day. I gotta
Speaker 2: be better. I was not good enough today. And although
Speaker 2: we are a team and we lost the other team
Speaker 2: I have to be better individually. It's okay to say that.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 2: It really is okay to say that I've been the guy.
Speaker 2: You know what, a we win asther team, we lose
Speaker 2: other team. But Shannon Sharp has to be better. I'm
Speaker 2: counted on to make the plays that I left on
Speaker 2: the field today. I'm counted on to be a leader.
Speaker 2: I didn't lead today. I didn't make plays today.
Speaker 1: That's on me.
Speaker 2: I'll be better next week. That won't happen again. It's okay,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. It's okay to not have it, to not
Speaker 2: be good on a particular day. It's gonna happen to everybody.
Speaker 2: But a part of being a professional, A part of
Speaker 2: being a pro, because he's a professional football player, a
Speaker 2: pro is when things don't go your way, you still
Speaker 2: look down to the eye that camera and when they
Speaker 2: asked you answer every question that they asked. What happened
Speaker 2: out there today? Guys, it was a rush one on
Speaker 2: me today. I wasn't good enough. I've got to be better.
Speaker 2: My teammates are counting on me. Lamar's counting on me,
Speaker 2: the fans are counting on me, and I promise you
Speaker 2: I'll be better next week. What happened? Nothing? God just
Speaker 2: beat me today. I just didn't have it. I know
Speaker 2: I gotta get better. I don't have anything.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you anything specifically that they did.
Speaker 2: It was what I didn't do. Yeah, I was lunging.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. My steps wasn't proper. I stepped underneath.
Speaker 1: It's okay, bro, it's okay to have a bad game,
Speaker 1: but don't run.
Speaker 2: Don't run because if y'all had rush for three hundred,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you you wouldn't have grabbed your tea, you
Speaker 2: grab your shirt and nodded of the camera.
Speaker 1: You to talk, So you got to talk and defeat
Speaker 1: just like you would be. That's what makes us pros.
Speaker 2: We don't hide, we don't run, We don't tuck our
Speaker 2: tales when things don't go our way.
Speaker 1: Yes, Lamar stood right there, bravy y'all.
Speaker 2: Tomlin's tenure the Pittsburgh is under the microscope this week
Speaker 2: and would have gotten only words had they lost to
Speaker 2: the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Oh yo yo? Does them winning this game today?
Speaker 2: Does that cut down on the rumors that Mike Tomlin
Speaker 2: or the Steelers got to make a decision on Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin going somewhere else. Does he want to go
Speaker 2: somewhere else? Do they wanted to go somewhere else? Do
Speaker 2: you think that quell the noise of what's going on
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 5: No. I think once a rumor like that starts, you
Speaker 5: always know that rumor always comes from somewhere. I think
Speaker 5: regardless of what they do, I think they're probably gonna
Speaker 5: move on is in a very long time since they
Speaker 5: moved on from a coach. Most of the time they
Speaker 5: allow their coaches to leave on their own. But for
Speaker 5: a rumored like that to start, it has to come
Speaker 5: from somewhere, and it came from in that building. It
Speaker 5: came from in that building. So I think once the
Speaker 5: rumor starts and that five gets the burning, I don't
Speaker 5: think there's anything that they can do collectively as a group,
Speaker 5: or Mike Tomlin as a head coach that would change
Speaker 5: the decision that they're gonna make at the end of
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna allow him to.
Speaker 5: Uh leave it in his hands to say I'm stepping down,
Speaker 5: I'm stepping away from here for the foreseeable future, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna go in a different direction. I think they're
Speaker 5: not going to fire him. I think he's going to
Speaker 5: probably step away and allow him go go out on
Speaker 5: his own on his own way.
Speaker 2: I don't think me personally, o, Yo, look and coach Tomlin. Look,
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be hard for him to step
Speaker 2: away or them to fire and if he wins the division,
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But you got to understand, Oyo, they don't won a
Speaker 1: playoff game and it'll be a decade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what makes you think they win one now?
Speaker 1: And how many? How many games? How many playoff games
Speaker 1: have they won since they won that Super Bowl? I
Speaker 1: know they lost. I know they lost one year to their.
Speaker 2: Patriots in the AFC Championship Game, But how many playoff
Speaker 2: games since they won that Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, they beat the Cardinals?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: I think that was in Tampa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure how many they won so far.
Speaker 4: I think they haven't been since sixteen twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been the last time.
Speaker 2: But I don't think they won more than two or
Speaker 2: three playoff games since they won that last Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay and
Speaker 2: then they went to the championship game.
Speaker 1: Against the Patriots. What year was that? Okay?
Speaker 5: You know you know where were Mike Tomlin kind of
Speaker 5: messed up where he would be okay if he had
Speaker 5: drafted a quarterback and didn't worry about Ben Roethlisberger Ben
Speaker 5: Roethlisberger's feelings, drafted the quarterback early.
Speaker 4: He didn't, and you wouldn't.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't have been searching for him right now because
Speaker 5: not having a quarterback, he put you behind the eight
Speaker 5: ball and having to search and search and search. And
Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons why you haven't had the
Speaker 5: success that you wanted to, because you haven't found a
Speaker 5: quarterback yet.
Speaker 2: That's why Green Breys has prosperity because Green Bay was
Speaker 2: unafraid to piss the quarterback off.
Speaker 1: Brett Farr was pissed.
Speaker 2: He was pissed to the highest pistivity that they drafted
Speaker 2: Aaron Aaron Rodgers was even higher. And they say, you
Speaker 2: know what, you better be pissed off and pissed on.
Speaker 2: So guess what keep it moving?
Speaker 1: You got, o Jo. You cannot wait till the bridge.
Speaker 2: You got to start trying to repair it because if
Speaker 2: you wait till the bridge collapse, it's too late. We
Speaker 2: saw what happened with the Dolphins when they didn't have
Speaker 2: adequate replacement for for Dan. Yeah, we see when they
Speaker 2: let these quarterbacks ride on the vine and they're afraid
Speaker 2: to upset their feelings. Well, I don't want to bring
Speaker 2: anybody bro okay, but when he leave, then what you're
Speaker 2: gonna do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, and they've been stuck for
Speaker 4: a while, ever since Big Ben is gone.