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Speaker 2: Houston Texans beat the Kansas City Chiefs by the score

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Speaker 2: of twenty to ten. Patrick Mahomes through three interceptions as

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Speaker 2: Kansas City playoffs hopes continue to fade. He was fourteen

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Speaker 1: I mean they had.

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Speaker 2: Twins, but Mahomes with the leading rusher with seven carries

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Speaker 1: But what did you like about what you saw from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans?

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Speaker 4: Listen, the Texan got it done.

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Speaker 5: What I didn't like obviously, they didn't make enough adjustments

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Speaker 5: I would think if you know they're blitzing every time.

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Speaker 5: Just go quick game, if anything, do do things, you know, misdirection,

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Speaker 5: But just seeing she destroud run for life. But they

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Speaker 4: And they the back end was exposed.

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Speaker 5: defense for the Houston Texans won that game for them.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure what's wrong with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: They lost what five of for their last fives or

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Speaker 4: They just don't look the same.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, they have a great run, They've had a great run,

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Speaker 5: quarterback of all time, this year just hasn't been it

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Speaker 5: for them at all. Everyone is healthy now offensively, Everyone

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Speaker 5: is healthy now offensively, and they let they let pack

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Speaker 5: Kelsey he did, he did. He looks almost like a.

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Speaker 1: Shell of himself and he didn't play well.

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Speaker 2: It's cold oo when you get you know he when

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Speaker 4: Young that a that ain't no excuse. You know that

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Speaker 1: There's the reason why old people moved to Porta in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, We've been catching football's all we been.

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Speaker 2: We've been thirty six all our life. We've been thirty

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Speaker 5: Listen, listen to me. Listen to me real quick. All

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Speaker 5: regardless how old you get. But the Houston Texas, that

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Speaker 4: They got the back in the back end.

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Speaker 5: Man. The bloom Boys played very well, played very well.

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Speaker 5: So I'm glad. I'm glad to see the Texans win.

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Speaker 5: They won the last four of their last five games,

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Speaker 5: so it seems like they're ascending right now.

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Speaker 4: While the Kansaseley Chiefs are descending.

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Speaker 2: They are Like I said, Taekwon Thornton had to touch

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Speaker 2: We know that the offensive line is beat the hell.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why he was down to begin with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I disagree with the call to Andy made

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Speaker 2: O Joe, I will punt the ball because at that

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Speaker 1: Stroud, getting him off its mark.

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Speaker 2: In that situation, I disagree with Andy, and I don't

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Speaker 2: But in a game like this with points out of premium,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. If they do nothing offensively,

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Speaker 2: they're in field goal ring yeah, I can't make that call.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I gotta punt this ball away.

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Speaker 1: I understand. I got Patrick Mahomes, and I understand he

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Speaker 2: He gonna want to go for it on fourth and ten,

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Speaker 2: know what, let's punt this ball. Let's make let's force

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Speaker 2: them to make a mistake. Let's not give them a gift.

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Speaker 2: And I felt that's what they did, and that was

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Speaker 2: these guys, I mean, Mahomes were a little off. I

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Speaker 2: And you and I talked about it with a running back.

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Speaker 2: You see Marx, he called a touchdown. He pretend like

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Speaker 5: No, absolutely not. And honestly, Mahomes is fourteen for thirty three.

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Speaker 4: That's not gonna win you many games. You have to

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Speaker 5: They were one demensum tonight for the simple fact that

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Speaker 2: He's a two to three yard a carry guy. That's

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Speaker 1: Do any more than what he's doing. He can't, he can't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys, guy's gotta make and when your quarterback,

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Speaker 5: And the playmaker that we're speaking of, Honestly, I think

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Speaker 4: Actually somebody like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, A chan running back like that that can

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Speaker 2: Because the thing is sometimes that you know, in the

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Speaker 2: So it's tough. It's tough. It's really tough. Go ahead, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Have a question. I don't know why his name is sipping

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Speaker 5: The running back they used to play for the Candy

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Speaker 5: that's what they need. They need another Jamal Charles or

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Speaker 4: You might. The fat lady might as well sing. They

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either.

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Speaker 5: So whoever, and whatever they do get, it has to

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Speaker 2: No, not at this, not at this junction of his career.

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Speaker 1: Oo. He's serviceable, but he's not that Ojo no breeze

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Speaker 4: I'm good. He's much better than what they have that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, you realize how many how many touches?

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Speaker 4: Derreck Henry? Yes, Look look what he did last year.

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Speaker 4: No, they got Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 2: They don't stop it. Come on now, we like, we

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Speaker 4: When you said and you said that bigger back, but.

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Speaker 2: everybody look jamir Gil, but they also have David Montgomery.

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Speaker 4: Yeahs.

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Speaker 2: I mean there are some times that they got through

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Speaker 2: when you when you bring pressure and you sacrifice your

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Speaker 5: You know. The bad thing about it is is for

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Speaker 2: Damn, You're like, you're right, you're right, but look, it's

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Speaker 2: But their game back, their game back of Jacksonville and

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Speaker 4: Of your yeah, yeah, other parts of the body gonna

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Speaker 1: Is just it's the.

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Speaker 2: Same way as your car if you're tired, if going

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Speaker 2: of just getting that child, change that little donut.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna mess up the rear end. That's not a body.

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Speaker 1: The body was.

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Speaker 2: But when you start walking side you know, now all

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Speaker 2: But give give, give the Houston Texas credit. They haven't

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Speaker 2: Give a Demico Ryans. I think he's a hell of

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Speaker 2: He's got him playing extremely well. They're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 4: What happened to Joe Mixon?

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Speaker 2: He had an ankle injury or foot injury or something,

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Speaker 2: oh Joe the Titans. Titans beat the Browns but your

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Speaker 2: start Browns quarterback with three hundred pass yards, three touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: But stop, but despite got me frustrated because.

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Speaker 1: I'm a boy. I'm mad at. I'm mad at.

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Speaker 2: In the wed hornet uh Stefanski took him out with

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Speaker 2: the game on the line, Oh Joe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what I don't understand?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, when you come, you're down fourteen, you score touchdown,

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Speaker 2: the pat? And guess what, O Joe, you're down seven?

435
00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 2: Now you score touchdown to kick the pat? Guess what

436
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,120
Speaker 2: on Joe?

437
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 1: We tied?

438
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,200
Speaker 4: H Yeah?

439
00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, there's no there's no there's no explanation

440
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 5: behind what the Fanski is doing.

441
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,040
Speaker 4: There's none, there's none at all.

442
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 5: But what I can tell you is I can tell

443
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 5: you that in job that in jobs Georgs was why

444
00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,639
Speaker 5: he's making the calls that he's making. There's no reason

445
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,440
Speaker 5: you got six minutes left in the game, shoe door

446
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 5: goes down, Sure goes down, and he scores.

447
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: Why go for two? Wo Joe, you tell me I

448
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: just need somebody when you down for that is you're

449
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: at home. Even if you're down an even number, Why

450
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: would you go for two?

451
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: Because now if you get you're chasing points. You don't

452
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 1: need to do that.

453
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 5: Hold on for one as well as he was playing.

454
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,159
Speaker 5: Look at the numbers he put the day as well

455
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 5: as he was playing all game long.

456
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: Right, you want to put the ball in your.

457
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 5: Best player's hands that has a hot that has a

458
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 5: hot hand at the right time.

459
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: Who is that?

460
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 5: So if you are gonna go for two, if you're

461
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 5: gonna make that decision to go for two, you put

462
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 5: the ball in your quarterback's hands, who just drove you

463
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 5: down not once, but twice on back to back drives

464
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 5: to get you a chance to win the game, or

465
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 5: at least time game.

466
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 4: I think I was so confused by this. It had

467
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 4: to make two phone calls.

468
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 5: I had to make two phone calls the people who

469
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 5: have been head coaches before, just to make sure I

470
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 5: can get a better understanding and get a better perspective

471
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: in context on what was being made. But obviously, even

472
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 5: though they're not coaching anymore right now, even though they're

473
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,439
Speaker 5: not a part of the NFL right now, the answers

474
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 5: they gave me were pc so they wouldn't give me

475
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 5: what I really wanted to hear.

476
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: And I'm not.

477
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 5: Going to say any names, but Stefanski, I can't say

478
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 5: anything about being fired because this is the reason why

479
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 5: they didn't want your door starting in the first place.

480
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 4: Because now you see.

481
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 1: He just started at the beginning of the season. What

482
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 1: could we have been?

483
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 5: And U, I mean, this is exactly why they didn't

484
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 5: want Tom start. This is exactly why he wouldn't get

485
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 5: any refs because they understood what you would get once

486
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: he gets there and he gets acclimated to the system

487
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 5: with his players and it gets any kind of chemistry

488
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 5: and continuity with that offense, this is what you get

489
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 5: and the stuff you pulling when you get when you

490
00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 5: when you after you score and taking them out.

491
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 4: Oh, this is not college.

492
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 5: You're not running trick plays. You're not gonna fool anybody.

493
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 5: The wildcat is not gonna work. This is not two

494
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 5: thousand and seven. Ronnie Brown is back there.

495
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: They tried to run the wildcat. Oo. They tried to

496
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: run the wildcat.

497
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: Look the reason why the Dolphins ran the Wildcats because

498
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: that quarterback wasn't any good. You got a competent quarterback

499
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: that's playing his ass off. I felt that he made

500
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: probably one mistake tonight, O Joe, is that when he

501
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 2: threw the ball up down the middle of the field

502
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: when he was playing so well, and he didn't really

503
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: need to do that, And that's why I let you

504
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: do it. You're playing so well, you know you're not

505
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: supposed to just eat the ball up down in the middle.

506
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: Of the field.

507
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 2: Other than that, Ojo, I thought this young man played

508
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 2: extremely well.

509
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: He was balling in the game.

510
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: Throw with touch, the one he dropped down in the bucket,

511
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: Ah man, he dropped it in the bucket. Good thing

512
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: the bros that he had that we was giving a

513
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: fan in junior. The one in the touch the Jerry

514
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 2: Judy that he hit for sixty that basically the same

515
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: played that he missed that he overshot him the game

516
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: before hit him.

517
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 5: The time, and I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad him

518
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: and Judy got on that on that same page this week.

519
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: I was I was happy to see that, But that

520
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: God damn Fan and Jr.

521
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 1: But he.

522
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 5: Every every goddamn week, forty four popping up on them,

523
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 5: every week forty four, popping up on film. I don't

524
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: I don't know what they got out on, what kind

525
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 5: of chemistry. I don't know if they stay out the

526
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 5: practice and they and they work together. But every time

527
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: the ball is in the air, he got he got there.

528
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Hey, what about the touch pass that he threw, the

529
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: he retreating and through the touch paths and Joku, Oh yeah,

530
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean he has things that you just can't teach you. No, no,

531
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: you can't have things you can't teach. And the funny

532
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: thing about it, Go ahead, make your point. No, I

533
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: was gonna say.

534
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 5: What he lacks in mobility, he makes up in so

535
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 5: many other areas when it comes to when it comes

536
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 5: to being able to extend plays, being able to play

537
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 5: off script, being able to being able to be accurate,

538
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 5: being able to.

539
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: Be accurate you know, on the run.

540
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 5: He's phenomenal with that, and the fact that he looks

541
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: as good and only a third start as bad as

542
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns team is not, defense team is offensively

543
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 5: to have him in there and give him that spark

544
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 5: to where now in each game they're competing us.

545
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 4: Yes, theyre compete weekend and weekend.

546
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: And he's he's and he's playing through his bull drive.

547
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 5: Coach, Hey, matter of fact, maybe maybe maybe we can

548
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 5: ask the chat even if you don't like your door,

549
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 5: you know, even if you don't like the Browns, can

550
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 5: you please give me the explanation in the chat why

551
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 5: you take him out two drives back to back with

552
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 5: opportunity to get closer and put point when points are

553
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 5: a premium in a situation like this where you want

554
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 5: to win a game, what I mean you you would

555
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 5: think so fantasy would want to win the game, but

556
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 5: some of the stuff, some of the play codes you

557
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 5: haven't and situations like that you putting your team.

558
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: In homes yea.

559
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: For me, it was it was taking him out going

560
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: to the wildcat when your best player, you know he

561
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 2: needs to be on the field. But what I don't understand.

562
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I need somebody to explain him. Why did he go

563
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: for two points on the first time he scored a touchdown.

564
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: That's what I need to understand, because at that point

565
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: in time on Joe, you don't need it. You don't

566
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: need it. You don't And then so let me guess

567
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: this SA So now we're down eight because we didn't

568
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: we we were dumb.

569
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened.

570
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe an ego had a rock and it dropped

571
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 2: it on my and Stefanski's head. I don't know what happened.

572
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 2: But so now we gotta go for two. So we're

573
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: gonna take We're gonna take shaduor out and we're gonna

574
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: run Wildcat. And the guy forgetting to pitch the ball,

575
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 2: I'm thinking. I'm thinking he was supposed to pitch it.

576
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 1: O Joe.

577
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was supposed to pitch it. He was supposed

578
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 4: to come around and he was gonna throw it.

579
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: I guess somebody else is gonna go out more pass

580
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess.

581
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: I guess.

582
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: I mean we're at this point in time on Joe,

583
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 2: we we we just like everybody else.

584
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: We had we had a loss for words.

585
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 5: I'm confused, and the only way as a head coach,

586
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 5: this is how I know a job isn't in jeopardy.

587
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: This is how I knowing job is in jeopardy, because

588
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: when your job is in jeopardy, you call plays that

589
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 5: are conducive for you to look good as a head

590
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: coach and with a quarterback plan as well as he

591
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 5: was playing.

592
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: Even if even if it one should do a quarterback.

593
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: That has game, You're not taking him out.

594
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: No, you're not taking hi out because your job is

595
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 4: on the line.

596
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: You're not taking him job is on the line.

597
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: I need to do everything I can to show management

598
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 5: and those that are in positions of power who can

599
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 5: make the call on whether I stay or go. That's

600
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: coming from the top. Matter of fact, we can't even

601
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: blame the coach. This is the same situation. Who's the

602
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 5: reason who took the fall for Luca getting traded again?

603
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 5: Stefanski is basically Niko. The Stfanski is basically Nico Collumns.

604
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 5: He's taking off, taking all the heat, but the call

605
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: is coming from up above. Listen, whatever you do, whatever

606
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 5: you need to do, Do whatever you need to do

607
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 5: to make him look bad, because there's no why you're

608
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: not trying to win.

609
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: Are you trying to take purposely? Are you trying to.

610
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: Make your team look bad purposely because that's exactly what

611
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 5: you're doing, because you have every Cleveland Brown fan, every

612
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 5: football fan, scratch your head about the decision making you

613
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: making as a head coach.

614
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: I've had people reach out to me and ask me,

615
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: they don't even really know football like that, say why

616
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: they take your do out because they.

617
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: Say, we asked.

618
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you because I know you know you

619
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: played the game, you watch the game, you study the game.

620
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know. It's like you know something.

621
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, Damn, I aint a Cleveland I don't know.

622
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Hell if I do, I tweeted, it needs to be studied.

623
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: They need a Hey, d OJ Department of Justice. I

624
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: need y'all open up an investigation and what the hell

625
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: is going on in Cleveland? What the hell is the

626
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: FANSK doing? Because it makes no sense even if you

627
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: want to run the wildcat, considering that your quarterback is

628
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: playing at a he's on fire. He's hotter than bought

629
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: Box was in a forest fire. That's how heart of

630
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: you is, O Joe, and you take him out, You

631
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: take him out to think about this, O Joe. You

632
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 2: take him out to have somebody else throw a pass,

633
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 2: because that that that's what it looked like.

634
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: If you was gonna flip it to him, what was

635
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: he gonna do? Run it?

636
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 2: Or he was gonna run and put him and throw

637
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: throw up a pull up and throw a pass. So

638
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: that's what I list he was gonna throw up. Listen,

639
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: he was gonna through. He was gonna throw it to somebody.

640
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: If junkers it flipped the ball like it's supposed to. Obviously, misdirection.

641
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 5: You know how well misdirection works when you're playing against

642
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 5: the defense that's.

643
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: Extremely aggressive, extremely aggressive.

644
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: You're you're hoping somebody misses assignment and a and a

645
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 5: in a back in a back or a receiver or

646
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 5: a tight end, you know, leaks out and he's wide open.

647
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: But it didn't happen. It didn't work. It didn't work that.

648
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't give I don't, I don't, I don't care.

649
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna go down and look

650
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: if you you brought me this far, you brought me

651
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: this far. Yeah, if this is as far as you

652
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: can take us, what you bought a father than I was.

653
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it. And

654
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: I told you it doesn't make hard here's.

655
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: What stepansk you said about going for two that last

656
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: two point conversion.

657
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Yes, so.

658
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: It was supposed to happen on that last two point conversion.

659
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not going to get in all the specific cheff,

660
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 6: but obviously did not go as we thought it.

661
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Would you make that call any time?

662
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

663
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: I make every call. I make every call. Why would

664
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 6: you take him off again? It's a two point play.

665
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 6: Uh didn't come through on our first two point play.

666
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: I got to the second two point play. We didn't

667
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 6: come through. But that's that's all me that.

668
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: What was that?

669
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: Was that play call?

670
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: You times every I'm responsible for all of it.

671
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: No, I thought I thought you turned over play calling duties.

672
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: Now it's being reported Mary kay, I need you to call.

673
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: I need you to let us know jump in the

674
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: chat because it was reported that he turned the play

675
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: call and over the time he reached right. So I

676
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: know everything's on you and you don't want to get

677
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: into it. Get into it. What went into your thinking

678
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: that when your door Sanders had led you that back

679
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: from fourteen down, he had led you back. What made

680
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: what went into the decision to take him off the

681
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: field and potentially have someone else throw a two point conversion.

682
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: What went into your decision? Go hold on? Hold on?

683
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: Not only half someone else throw the two point conversion?

684
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 5: Half someone else throw the two point conversion. That wasn't

685
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 5: your quarterback, that was on fire like he was playing

686
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 5: NBA jams.

687
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: Hold on a.

688
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: Play like that in college, I understand it. Yes, I understand,

689
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 5: because they don't see it coming. In the NFL, it's

690
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 5: not working. That's a play for the movie The Long Yard,

691
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 5: or maybe on Thanksgiving and you got you in the

692
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 5: goddamn Turkey Bowl.

693
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: That's what it's for, or maybe the movie Waterboy.

694
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: That's when you run a play like that, not with

695
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: a game on the line that you're actually trying to

696
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 5: win and compete.

697
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

698
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: I swear for God on my mama recipeace. I had

699
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: to call two of my.

700
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: Former coaches to get a better perspective on what they

701
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 5: were doing.

702
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: Because you've been a head.

703
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: Coach, Please explain to me you've been in that position before.

704
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: If that was you, why do you call a play

705
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 5: like that? And of course they wouldn't give me an answer.

706
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: They wanted to keep it pc like.

707
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: Why you should have been in that situation, because you

708
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: should have kicked the pat to begin with, Why the

709
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: hell you go for two on the first pat? You're

710
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: only down fourteen, You're down an even number, So why

711
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: the hell are you going? Why are you hell? Are

712
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: you going for two on the first pat? If you

713
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: just kick it now, you're down seven, Now you don't

714
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: have to chase the second point.

715
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: That's what makes no sense to me. Nothing.

716
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: First of all, it didn't make who he started. He

717
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: went with FLACKO.

718
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, they said Dylan Gable that drafted him.

719
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: In the third round. Okay, whatever the case may be.

720
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: We can't go back in time undo what's already done.

721
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: But moving forward, the guy gives you a great opportunity

722
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: to win, a great opportunity. He's playing his ass off,

723
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: and you undercut him by taking him off the field.

724
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: You undercut him by going for two when it's unnecessary.

725
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out, and I don't

726
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: want to use the word sabotage, but I will say

727
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand your rationale and your thought process.

728
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: What goes into going for two the first time? When

729
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: you're only down fourteen, you kick the pat? You're down seven. Okay,

730
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: now you're down eight because you didn't get the first

731
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: pat I mean the first two point conversion. So now

732
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: you're down eight, you gotta go for it. What goes

733
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: into a rationale after you see what your quarterback has done?

734
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Why would you take him off the field? And as

735
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: somebody that doesn't play the position, do you really are

736
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: you really really trusting someone that hasn't thrown a pass

737
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: to throw a pass in that situation, in that moment

738
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: at that jumps out of game?

739
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: You really want to do that? O Joe? Is that

740
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: really what you want to do? Chat? Hey don't know.

741
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

742
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: They're doing that on purpose.

743
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: They're doing it on purpose, and it's just not this

744
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: Just just think about since training camp. Just think about

745
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: all the games they've continued to play, their organization has

746
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 5: continued to play.

747
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: You know what you're doing? Just in general, they did

748
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 4: not want young.

749
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 5: Bull to be a starter because they understood if he

750
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: gets the opportunity to play, the numbers you see him

751
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 5: putting him up, putting them up, putting up him getting

752
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: an opportunity to play, he's going to give them their

753
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: best chance to win. They don't want to win what

754
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 5: if they do want to win, they don't want to

755
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 5: win with him behind center. That's the only answer I

756
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 5: can think of for you to be pulling that kind

757
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 5: of bull drive I saw out there today as a

758
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: former player, as a football fan, as a fan of

759
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: the game.

760
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: This is for anybody, for any team, for any quarterback.

761
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 5: You always want to put your quarterback and your team

762
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 5: in the best positions to win, because that's the point

763
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: of at the point of playing this game, you want

764
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: to win, and that that shit, I'm sorry.

765
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 4: That he pulled. The day was ridiculous.

766
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: On the downside, I was disappointed in Cleveland's defense rush defense.

767
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard had twenty five carries for a buck sixty one,

768
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: had a sixty five yard run, had another long run.

769
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: They've got to do a better job of stopping to

770
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: run and so now we can put more pressure on

771
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: cam Ward. But when you're in second, when you're second

772
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: and short, you're third and short, it's hard to rush

773
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: the quarterback Ojoe when you in short down in d

774
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: because you don't know they can run it. Now, if

775
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 2: we got it second and long, we got it third

776
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: and long. Now we can Now we can unleash Myles Garrett.

777
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: Now we can unleash some of these rushers. But I

778
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: just need somebody to tell me. I need I need

779
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: someone to explain to me, and I need you to

780
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 2: explain it to me as if I'm a seven year old.

781
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: So if like a kid going to it father and

782
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: he's asking him a question, father, that's what I need

783
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: somebody to explain it to me, because it makes no

784
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: sense as a guy, oh Joe, guys that played the game,

785
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: as a guy that studied the game, and I'm that's

786
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: what I do. I don't look at I don't look

787
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: at touchdown. I'm glad they scored. I'm looking at how

788
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: they scored. I'm looking at why they scored. I'm looking

789
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 2: at what did the defense do. I'm looking at what

790
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: play was called? What personnel were you in so I

791
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: can have a better understanding and sees, Okay, I saw

792
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: what this worked.

793
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: But when you to do this, it makes no sense.

794
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can I say one thing.

795
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 5: Also, Let's say the Cleveland Brown defense, they've been playing

796
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: they ass off all season. They've been playing their ass

797
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: off all season. They've been stopping the run, they've been

798
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: stopping the past. So you know what you come to

799
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 5: a game where now we need the offense. When we

800
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 5: was down fourteen, God damn it, the offense showed up.

801
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: The offense showed up. They showed up. Miles Garrett got

802
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: to be pissed. Denzel Ward Dell pitted. They have to

803
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 5: be pissed because I know they see it. I know

804
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 5: if they I know anybody was miked up. I know

805
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: on the sideline. If you can hear the defensive player

806
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: and talking, they'd be like, man, what the hell are

807
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 5: we doing? What the hell are we doing? Okay, they're

808
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 5: running the ball on us. Now, this is one of

809
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 5: the few games we need our offense to have our back.

810
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 5: Long bee, motherfucking hole. The offense had they back with.

811
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: A position twice, two different drives, drove down the field,

812
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 4: we scored, we go for two. What we get the

813
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: ball back.

814
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: Go right back down the field again, and we do

815
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: the same bullshit again. They got to be pissed. But

816
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: they can't say nothing. They're not gonna say nothing. They

817
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: know it's some bull drive.

818
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: But players in that locker room they can't see anything.

819
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: But they can see. Yeah, they can see. They can

820
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: see clear day. They know what's going on. They know

821
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: what's going on.

822
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 5: But if I can see it and them all the

823
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 5: way down here Miami, a thousand something miles away, come on.

824
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: We know who can come on chat. We know who

825
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: can play and who can't play. When you're in the

826
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: locker room, you know exactly who can play, and we

827
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: know exactly who can't play. I don't care what coach does.

828
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't care how much money you make. I don't

829
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: care where you were drafted. I know if you can

830
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: play or not because I see you every day. They

831
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: know sdor Sanders can play. They believe in Shador. The

832
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: greatest thing your teammates can do is have a belief

833
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: in you can trust you. I just it doesn't make sense,

834
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: they say. The only difference between truth and fiction is

835
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: that fiction has to make sense. So when you're doing

836
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: a story Ojo, fiction has to make sense because we

837
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: know truth. The people do stuff. They're like, that can't

838
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: be true. That's got to be AI. And when I

839
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: saw the going I was like this, Hell if somebody

840
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: would have told me, I said, that's AI. I'm watching

841
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: it in real time, so I know it can b

842
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: a I because I'm sitting there watching it. That's got

843
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: that you got you got to be issuing me. Stefanski.

844
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: I know this man. I think he's been the coach

845
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: for five years, six years. He's a two time Coach

846
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: of the Year, coach of the year.

847
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's more than competent.

848
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is how you know.

849
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: But sometimes the smartest people are the biggest dummies.

850
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, we're not We're not gonna make

851
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: no excuses. He's not dumb. He not dumb. He's not dumb.

852
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 5: And this is not analytics. It ain't about numbers, it's

853
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 5: ain't about computers. This is what I like to call

854
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 5: sophisticated tankingbody my point exactly, because that's not the person

855
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: they wanted to.

856
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Have the argument. O Joe, you're tanking for.

857
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, Mendoza, the quarterback in i U

858
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: is is substantially better than your door, dude, I'm sure.

859
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: And they think, what if a quarterback is out there?

860
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I'm trying to think chance, y'all help us out.

861
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: Do y'all think any of the quarterbacks that you're oh

862
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 2: sailing saying, excuse me for Ohio State? Is there's something

863
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: if there's somebody that we're that that we're tied Simpson,

864
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Gunna Stockton is there's somebody that we don't know that

865
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: you think right now that gonna come into the league

866
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: and that would be substantially better than your door.

867
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 5: Are we forgetting what the owner said? The GM said,

868
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 5: he was not my pick. This is not who I

869
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 5: wanted publicly. Those are the type of things that you

870
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 5: don't say out loud. Those are the things that you

871
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 5: think in your head, that you tell those amongst you

872
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: that sit up there in the seats with.

873
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 4: The ties and the jackets on. You don't say it

874
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 4: in front of the camera. You don't. That is why

875
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 4: things are going the way they're going.

876
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 5: If unfortunately you got to a situation where now he

877
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 5: has to start. Now he has to start, and there's

878
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: a reason why you didn't want to start, because you

879
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 5: understood if he got in there with ample time, with

880
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 5: the right reps, this is what you get. This is

881
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: what you get when opportunity meets preparation. This is the

882
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 5: shit you get.

883
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: So what do we have to do on my end?

884
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: Nico Collins, who.

885
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 5: Is basically Stefanski right now in situation, Oh, we go

886
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 5: down on two scores. I'm gonna go for I'm gonna

887
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 5: go for two. That ain't Stefanski doing that. That's not

888
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: him calling that. That's coming from a higher power.

889
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Man, Dad ojo.

890
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. You just watching the game.

891
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: I take the names out the back of the jerseys.

892
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: I take the color you colorblind, and you can't sleep

893
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: which quarterback I played the other quarterback today?

894
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: You don't chat, You don't know the names.

895
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: I took the names off the back of the jerseys,

896
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 2: and you can't tell the colors. You don't know which

897
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: one of the Browns, and you don't know which one

898
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: of the Titans. All you do you just watching the game.

899
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: You don't know nothing. There's no sound. You watch the

900
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: game just like I do with no sound. Who played

901
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: the best? Yes you met Nico Harrison, not Nico Collins.

902
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: Uh if if you just if you just watch the game,

903
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: the poison what he played with?

904
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: Yes, there is there some there's some habits. He's gonna

905
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: have to break that bubbling. It's okay for him sometime

906
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 2: to step up in the pocket and to step up

907
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: as opposed to bubbling all the time.

908
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: But look, he's a young quarterback and that's gonna come.

909
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: I get.

910
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm willing to give him another year or two. But

911
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: I think he had the tools to be a very

912
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: good quarterback in this in the NFL.

913
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I do.

914
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: But I think he needs somebody that believes in him.

915
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: I think he needs somebody in his corner. And I'm

916
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 2: not so sure that the Browns organization is in his corner.

917
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: I think they're playing it. I think that the fan

918
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: is so Insurdure's corner. I don't really think they have

919
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: a choice.

920
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

921
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: They didn't see this, They didn't think he could do this.

922
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: And the people that's hating only don't think he didn't

923
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: think he could do that. That's a damn good Titans defense.

924
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: That's a damn good Titans defense. And he just threw

925
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: for that almost four hundred yards with four total touchdowns. Yes,

926
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: he had a bad interception, but he played unbelievable for

927
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: his third career start. Hold on, let me go back

928
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: up here the guys. Hold on, where's the guys that

929
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: had thrown for.

930
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

931
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow number one overall, Andrew Luck number one overall,

932
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford number one overall, Marcus Mariota number two overall,

933
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud number two overall, Deshaun Watson, a top

934
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: twenty pick. He just did what those guys did. Joe

935
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Burrow number one, Andrew Luck number one, Matthew's Stafford number one,

936
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck number two.

937
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck was number one.

938
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: Stafford was number one, Joe Burrow was number one, three

939
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: number one picks. C J. Stroud was number two, Marcus

940
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: Mariota was number two. So he just did something that

941
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: three number ones, two number two's, and a top twenty quarterback,

942
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: the only one that's ever did in the Super Bowl era.

943
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm playing Super Bowls for longer than I've been alive,

944
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: and I'm fifty seven.

945
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: A fifth rounder did that.

946
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 4: He wasn't no fifth round talent.

947
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: You know that.

948
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: They knew that. But who they got? Who they got

949
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 4: next week?

950
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Who the Cleveland play next week? They got the Bears

951
00:43:51,600 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: in Chicago. We got to work cut Bears, Bills, Steelers, Bengals. Uh.

952
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: Here are the quarterbacks that have played the Titans this season,

953
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: uh Shirdeor Sanders has thrown for the most yards three

954
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four.

955
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford two ninety eight.

956
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: That's Davis Mills two seventy four, Justin Herbert two fifty,

957
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Sam Donald to forty four, c J. Stroud two thirty three,

958
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence two twenty nine, Drake May twenty two, Kyler

959
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: Murray two twenty, bow Knicks one hundred and seventy six.

960
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: Look at that list, Chat.

961
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Jones.

962
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: Oh uh yeah, Okay. The only guy that has thrown

963
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: for more was Daniel Jones. Matthew Stafford number one pick.

964
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: Sam Donald was a top three pick.

965
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 3: C J.

966
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: Strid was the top three pick. Trevor Lawrence was a

967
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: number one pick. C J.

968
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: Strid was number two. Kyler Murray's number one bow Knicks

969
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: was the top pick.

970
00:44:59,360 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: Look at this.

971
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: Look get all these guys up here, and look at

972
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: where they were drafted, and look at what this fifth

973
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: round kid did.

974
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: And they bullgiving him. Sometimes sometimes.

975
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: You know, they say, oh, you're a man can make

976
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 2: his destiny on the road that he took to avoid it.

977
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes I can make my destiny. Or even though obstacles

978
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: you placed in front of me, it might take me

979
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 2: a little longer, it might have took me ten weeks,

980
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: but I got there in spite of what you tried

981
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: to do.

982
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

983
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: God, say, Bob before me, and I stand for you.

984
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: And if I stand for you, can't no man stand

985
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: against you. I need somebody to tell me chat.

986
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: Where y'all? I need you.

987
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 2: I need you, guys, get on. What what that ask

988
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: A ask? A? I ask grok grok ask Why the

989
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: hell does JASKI do what he need? I need y'all

990
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: to ask a as chat gp chat GPT.

991
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: That's what as chack chat GPT. What the hell was

992
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: going on?

993
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Dylan Gabras should be suspended for that

994
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: bold face lie he told his fiance. Ah, man, I

995
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: still can't believe this. I can't believe they did this bad.

996
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine if this man would

997
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: have come back and won this game?

998
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: O Joe? What may they throw the ticket taper raade

999
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: for this man in Cleveland?

1000
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: That's not They didn't want that. They didn't want that.

1001
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 5: They didn't want that because if they wanted that, they

1002
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 5: were to put him in position to do just that.

1003
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: They would have put him in position to do that.

1004
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: Man.

1005
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just he's still feeling out the guys.

1006
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: It seems like he has a great rapport with Fanning Junior.

1007
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: But he hey, man, he was he was he was

1008
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: he was he was he was special.

1009
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: Today Hopefully this is something gives him a little bit

1010
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: more confident. I know he's a very confident in young man.

1011
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: You don't play, you don't be in the Sander's house

1012
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: without being confident. Because we know his dad has the

1013
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: utmost confidence, and I think he instilled that in his kids.

1014
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: And he's been a starter since high school. He started

1015
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: every game in college for the most part. And he

1016
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: knows he belongs. He knows he belongs. But sometimes it

1017
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: takes somebody believe it in you too, Oh Joe, that's

1018
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: gonna put you in the best situations. Keep your head

1019
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: up your door. You play jazz off today. After critical

1020
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,959
Speaker 2: two twenty seven twenty two loss to the Steelers, many

1021
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: of the Ravens questioned the call made by the referees,

1022
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: notably an overturned touchdown reception by Isaiah Likely in the

1023
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. The referee and initially ruled Likely scored a

1024
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: thirteen yard touchdown pass from Lamar Jackson, which would have

1025
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: given the Ravens a one point league with two forty

1026
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: three remaining, despite the tight end losing the ball in

1027
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: the end zone, but less than a minute later, referee

1028
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Alex Moore announced it was incomplete. Likely had the ball

1029
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: punched out by Joey Porter Jr. Before he made the

1030
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: necessary third step in the end zone. De Howk tweeted

1031
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: and deleted NFL and officiated thirteen years in this league.

1032
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 2: How many steps do you need in the end zone

1033
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: for a touchdown? It took me.

1034
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: How lett you take it?

1035
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, you know the rule. I know

1036
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 5: the rule a catch. For a ketch to be completed,

1037
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 5: you have to take three steps. He took two, and

1038
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: on that third one out. Yeah, the ball got punched out.

1039
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: So technically, if that was in the field of play,

1040
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: or if it was an end zone, it was still

1041
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 5: would have been an incomplete pass.

1042
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, understanding the rules and knowing.

1043
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 5: That he had he had possession, but you have to

1044
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 5: complete the catch with momentum and take that third step.

1045
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate, and I mean they didn't. They didn't win

1046
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 5: the game. Goddamn. Aaron Rodgers was dealing today. Aaron Rodgers

1047
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 5: was dealing today. It wasn't just just that that play.

1048
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 5: I mean, there were other players that could have been

1049
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 5: made that could have changed the trajectory of that game

1050
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 5: for the Ravens as well. But hell, you got to

1051
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: get a Steeler's credit.

1052
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: How many times likely are you going to get the

1053
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: ball punched out? Remember, oh Joe, he tried to switch

1054
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: the ball against Cincinnati and he got it knocked out.

1055
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: Now go back and look at the first touchdown that

1056
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: he got and see what he did. He secured it.

1057
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: How many you don't get style points for touchdown? He

1058
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: was doing this all he had to do with security.

1059
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: He had it just like this here? Why because it

1060
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: looked cool. How many times you saw him on thirst

1061
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving he did the same thing and got it knocked

1062
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: out and it was a touch back? So how many

1063
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: times actions with our consequences, no lesson and be learned.

1064
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: You would have bought the action that he had Thursday

1065
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: night on Thanksgiving would have taught him a lesson because

1066
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: it was a valuable lesson to learn because the consequences

1067
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: was it was a touchback and not a touchdown.

1068
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: But guess what he didn't.

1069
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 5: Learn, Yeah, trying to hold trying to hold that thing. Yes,

1070
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 5: grab it, man, bring it there, because I'll tell you

1071
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: one thing. Once you grab and bring it in, tuck

1072
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 5: and make it that much more difficult to get it

1073
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: out of there, and make it that much more.

1074
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: Forget about it, and you don't.

1075
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 5: You don't have to stress holding on to it, that

1076
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 5: damn type with somebody trying to fight through your hands.

1077
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Chat.

1078
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the first touchdown. Go back

1079
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: and look at the first touchdown, and see what he

1080
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: did when he caught it. He made sure he's security.

1081
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't nobody really around him. Now this guy's on

1082
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 2: his tail. He could feel it because you know, oh Joe,

1083
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: you know when I broke away because I ran, I

1084
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: ran a little. I ain't gonna and the guys already

1085
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: outside leverage, so I know he's gonna be driving hard.

1086
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: I already know that. I don't get it.

1087
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: Lamar had some drops, But Lamar's not throwing the football well,

1088
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: oh Joe, he had Za Flyers on a touchdown and

1089
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: he undershot him and he threw it behind him and

1090
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: the guy knocked it, got it out. They was parted,

1091
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 2: like put it out there. He had him Rashan Bateman.

1092
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: He had it was fourth I think it was third down.

1093
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: He hit him.

1094
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: He dropped it. Yeah, but Lamar's not playing well. Y'all

1095
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: know that ain't no sense. I'm not breaking news to you.

1096
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm not interrupting your normally scheduled programming. Breaking news to you.

1097
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson isn't playing well.

1098
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: He's just not.

1099
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: And a lot of that has to do with your

1100
00:51:52,920 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: left guard. He's terrible and chad, I know so time.

1101
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: My bluntness is not the best. But he's not good.

1102
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: That left guard is not good. I mean, he ain't.

1103
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be allowed to be that big and that sorry.

1104
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: That needs to be that need to be a prerequisite.

1105
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: If you just big, you got to be good. This

1106
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: man song, he k blocked the sun out of his eyes,

1107
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: let alone a defensive line with an extra bla bliss coming.

1108
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 4: Let me let me what what number is he don't

1109
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 4: say seventy seven?

1110
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Seventy seven for late yeah, yeah yeah, but he for

1111
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: late fish for late yeah yeah.

1112
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 5: I been listen on film. He is always he's always

1113
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 5: at the scene of a crime. And I mean no

1114
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: dish seventy seven yet yeah. On the on the games

1115
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 5: that I've seen, it's always him, always the same one.

1116
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 5: I think I think he's better at run blocking as

1117
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 5: I think he's better as a run blocker as opposed.

1118
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: To bring he bring his ass in on fourth down,

1119
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: fourth and one fourth and two. But most of the

1120
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: way the teams are set up. Now, oh Joe, you

1121
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: got to throw the ball at some point in time.

1122
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to throw it at some point in time. Yeah.

1123
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: He's that's that's his strength.

1124
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 5: That that has to be a strength, you know when

1125
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: it comes to the run, because it's past blocking. Uh uh,

1126
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 5: always at the scene of the crime every time.

1127
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: It's being reported that Lamar Jackson had a heated interaction

1128
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: on the sideline with Daniel Filllele after the interception per

1129
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: Tracy Wolfson at this point, So, oh Joe, let me

1130
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: ask you this. If as sad as he's been playing

1131
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 2: this entire season, how bad must his backup be?

1132
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: Mhm, Chad, y'all need to help me out.

1133
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: If he's this bad, he's so bad that you can't

1134
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: mention how bad. But he no, I need somebody to

1135
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: help me. Ain't no way to backup can be that

1136
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: bad because at the backup that band, he ain't even

1137
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: high school player. I mean, how you oh yo, how

1138
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: you passed it and you don't block nobody? Yeah, I

1139
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 2: mean to be that big. I mean the sun rides

1140
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: up and the sun shines. He can't even block the

1141
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: sun out of his eyes. Oh yo, sun blind him.

1142
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: He just walked right into the wall because he can't

1143
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: do this.

1144
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 4: Yeah he got he got his shot. He he a

1145
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: big boy too.

1146
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Now big and tale. Damn he's as big as he is. Sorry.

1147
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1148
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that's your that's your team that lost

1149
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: to now.

1150
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa.

1151
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 4: Oh yo, hey, hey that's your team. That's your team

1152
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 4: that lost.

1153
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: You know, like used to tell us his son, you

1154
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: can't be old and slow. Pick one. You can't be big.

1155
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 4: And sorry, right, Yeah, you gotta have a shit on.

1156
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: Small and sorry. You can be big and good. You

1157
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: can be old, but you can't be so you gotta

1158
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 2: pick one.

1159
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: You can't be.

1160
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: Both b onfl both he both he big and sorry

1161
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 2: for no reason.

1162
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1163
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: How you go out? How you go out? You go

1164
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: to the grocery store with your wife or your girlfriend.

1165
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: How you go get games?

1166
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1167
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 4: In publics?

1168
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: I know? Damn well. Ain't nobody ever told him this

1169
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: year good game? They lied?

1170
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 2: If they did, you go into hells. If you told

1171
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: that man good game, you lied to his face.

1172
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: And he know it. Everybody know when they play like

1173
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: some stir fry. Mm hmm.

1174
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably he's probably not playing with confidence

1175
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 5: right now. He's probably not playing in the fact that

1176
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 5: and if there was an altercation and you get into

1177
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 5: it where your quarterback, where your quarterback has to address

1178
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 5: you know, you not doing well in the game, that

1179
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 5: that that will hurt your confidence even more.

1180
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: They putting their helmet in my back. That's hurting me.

1181
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: He should have sucker style and kicked him anything.

1182
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: You know, he waited when he been up with Lamar,

1183
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: walked up, go up from the center, kicked him in

1184
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: his tail.

1185
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that really happens too. You never see

1186
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 5: a quarterback really chastise this office.

1187
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 4: When they get hurt. That that really really really happened.

1188
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 5: No matter how many times it gets sacked, to get hit,

1189
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 5: that really happens. So the fact that Lamar had to

1190
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 5: be really frustrated, really frustrated from me even addressed end game.

1191
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: Because guess what, how many times have because normally quarterback said,

1192
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 2: come on, guys, we got to do better than this now. Yeah, yeah,

1193
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: how many times during the course of this your chat

1194
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: do you think Lamar jacket that said, come on, guys,

1195
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: need to pick it up. Hey, come on, hey, come on,

1196
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: come on. Hold on what his dame? Mils? What's his name? Daniel?

1197
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: Come on dad, Hey, come on, we'll hey, we gonna

1198
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: get him. Were gonna be all right? And come on dad,

1199
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: were gonna get it. We're gonna be out if I'm Lamar, no,

1200
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: we not this man.

1201
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: Gonna get me killed? What they shouldn't do?

1202
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: Lamar say, you know what, I will go play guard

1203
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: and I want you to play quarterback. And I'm gonna

1204
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: do to you what you've been doing to me. I

1205
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 2: ain't gonna block a damn soul and I want him

1206
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: to tell your ass up. We had that halfway and

1207
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: as a battle state guard didn't mister block coach, I

1208
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: tell you what, hey, you get here, you get there?

1209
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Literally? How you see? How you like it?

1210
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: M M.

1211
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: That's embarrassing.

1212
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: At some point in time, you know, without Joe, at

1213
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: some point in time, you say, you know what, damn this?

1214
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: You not finna whip my ass all day every day?

1215
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: Don't you got forgetting the raven? What about that name

1216
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: of the back that I was just and darkening? You're

1217
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna know what it is? Put me in witness a

1218
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: man that you seven seventh that ain't me?

1219
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 5: That's on film that's on film. Everybody can see that.

1220
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 5: Like when when when all the teams you get to play,

1221
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 5: all the teams you get to play.

1222
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, when we.

1223
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: Line up, we run our ts and our stunts right there,

1224
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: right at seventy five.

1225
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 4: That's the fish.

1226
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: Everybody got a fish on offense, fish on defense. Everybody

1227
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 5: has a weak link. And the week link offensively is

1228
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 5: young bull. I mean that that's that's that's I mean

1229
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 5: that every team has one.

1230
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 4: It just so happens. His is very glaring and it's

1231
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: noticeable every fing game, every game you.

1232
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: Catch y'all been fishing. When you get a fish, when

1233
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: you get him on the line, what you can't do? Ojo,

1234
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: let him up the hook. Yeah, yeah, I don't ojo.

1235
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to beat him too bad early because

1236
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to get it benched. Because see if

1237
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 2: I beat him too early, gonna bitch it. See, I'm

1238
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: away to the right time. I'm waiting to get to

1239
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: the four quarter. That's what I'm really start tearing his

1240
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: ass up.

1241
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know them more frustrated, Man, I frustrated,

1242
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: and I ain't.

1243
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Got hit in twenty years.

1244
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: And oh Joe, it was the twenty fifth anniversary of

1245
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl team. They gotta let him and checkings

1246
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: out there. Boy, you know, if I'd have been down

1247
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: and ran in the field you, I'd have ran out.

1248
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: There with you. You terrible?

1249
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 4: Why you why you ain't go? Uh?

1250
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: Long story, I explained it to you a man.

1251
00:59:58,280 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 3: Man.

1252
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: This joke, got what this joke? Yeah, this is why

1253
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't coach.

1254
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 5: Well, actually, wait a minute, wait a minute, and I

1255
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 5: see that that's one thing about it. Now, God always

1256
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 5: has a call in huh. And most of the time

1257
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 5: he had knocked on your door. In the fact that

1258
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 5: you don't answer the door, maybe that's the problem, the

1259
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: fact that maybe if you were coaching, if you were

1260
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 5: coaching the Baltimore Ravens day, it wouldn't be playing like this.

1261
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 5: He probably wouldn't be playing like this. If hearing it

1262
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 5: from you would redister better than hearing it from who

1263
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: his coach, whoever his coach is right, you heard it

1264
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 5: from Lamar. It's too late to hear from that Chad.

1265
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, in all my years, rarely

1266
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: never the single out any offensive linement individually.

1267
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: He always does it as a group. Come on, guys,

1268
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: we gotta do better. Than this. Come on, guys, we

1269
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: gotta pick it up. Yeah.

1270
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1271
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 5: I'm just saying if you was my coach when I

1272
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 5: was playing, I would I would listen to you. I

1273
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 5: probably wouldn't have had no celebrations. I would have hand

1274
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 5: the ball right to the ref.

1275
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm lying, uh.

1276
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: Me, I'm a coach him. I said, look at sir,

1277
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna happen. I really don't. But

1278
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: I did make a recommendation that we cut you, just

1279
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: so we clear that's my recommendation. Hey, hold on, I recommend.

1280
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: That's what I recommended. I don't know what's gonna happen

1281
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: because it's it's out of my hands. But I did

1282
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 2: recommend this morning that we cut you.

1283
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 4: It ain't that many good line he ain't one of them.

1284
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 2: So you're right, you right, you right, person of ballcas

1285
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: person brodcast Lamar threw his helmet down after the last

1286
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: offensive series and then had a conversation with Daniel Filelele,

1287
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: who said, they know it's coming every time. What, oh Joe,

1288
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 2: you got two options on the football field as an offense.

1289
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: You can run it or you can throw it. So

1290
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: they got a fifty to fifty chance, I guess it.

1291
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: What the hell you're gonna do? What you mean it

1292
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: ain't rocket science? Yeah, if it's first second or third down,

1293
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: what the hell you think they're gonna do. Oh they

1294
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 2: might punt it, Oh they might let Lamar take it off.

1295
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: They gonna throw it, or they're gonna run it. Those

1296
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: are the only two choices that an offense half on.

1297
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 2: First second to third down. And he's gonna talk about

1298
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: they know what's coming.

1299
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: That all that all comes down to want to.

1300
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 5: That all come down to want to Even if you

1301
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 5: know what's coming, Even if you know what's coming, you

1302
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 5: ain't finna get past me. If you do sack Lamar,

1303
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 5: if you dig it, if you do get to Lamar,

1304
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 5: it ain't gonna be on me. It's not gonna be

1305
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 5: my fault. I'm definitely not gonna be the reason. I

1306
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 5: will never be the problem. I will always be the solution.

1307
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 5: I mean, that's just that's everybody's built different mentally. That's

1308
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 5: my mentality.

1309
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if I played off as a line, oh,

1310
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be the problem.

1311
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if he's a solution, what's the

1312
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: problem If he to answer what's the question.

1313
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 5: It ain't that many, it ain't that many linemen on

1314
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 5: They you can't just pop them off trees like that.

1315
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 2: They're alignment worse than what he is. It's hard for

1316
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: me to believe that. On youall, I refuse to believe that.

1317
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: Well, you can't hide him, No, you can't hide him.

1318
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 5: You can't hide him most of the time. The other players,

1319
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 5: other teams, the where they're structured. You can hide your fish.

1320
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,439
Speaker 5: You can hide your fish. You can hide your weak link.

1321
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 5: You know, you can help you weak link double team,

1322
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 5: you know, run away from him when you do throw,

1323
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 5: have protection, slide his way.

1324
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ugh.

1325
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: There're a crowd of reporters waiting for Daniel Fillel a locker,

1326
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: but the media policy is general not to talk to

1327
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 2: players before they're fully dressed. For La with shirtless, took

1328
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: his shirt in his hand, nodded to the reporters, walked off.

1329
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: He did not return for questions. Let me ask you

1330
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: a question, O Joe, they win that game, you think

1331
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 2: he does this?

1332
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 4: No, probably not, probably not.

1333
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 5: But he understanding the questions that we're gonna come, especially

1334
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 5: with the incident with Lamar, he didn't want to say anything.

1335
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: Got to be as gracious in defeat as you are

1336
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: in victory. That's a part of it. Nobody is gonna

1337
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: win every game. Nobody is gonna play great every game.

1338
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: But a part of being a pro is standing there

1339
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: and facing the very tough questions. But see when they

1340
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: ran for three hundred yards? He answered, He stood there

1341
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 2: and looked down the battle of it. Couldn't hey, anybody

1342
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: else got it?

1343
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 5: They want to ask, And you know what, I'm kind

1344
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 5: of glad, honestly, especially when it comes to lineman. You

1345
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 5: get into a few with a quarterback. You guys have

1346
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 5: a disagreement on the sideline. I'm glad he didn't answer

1347
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 5: any questions because it ain't no telling what he.

1348
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 4: Might have said. He might not be media savvy. He

1349
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 4: might still have been angry. He might have said the

1350
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 4: wrong goddamn thing.

1351
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: Short of him said I sucked today. I ain't want

1352
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: to hear nothing he had to say. If that was

1353
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: the first thing came out of his mouth, and it's okay,

1354
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: oh yoke, Hey, guys, today wasn't my day. I gotta

1355
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: be better. I was not good enough today. And although

1356
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: we are a team and we lost the other team

1357
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 2: I have to be better individually. It's okay to say that.

1358
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: It really is.

1359
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 2: It really is okay to say that I've been the guy.

1360
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: You know what, a we win asther team, we lose

1361
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: other team. But Shannon Sharp has to be better. I'm

1362
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: counted on to make the plays that I left on

1363
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: the field today. I'm counted on to be a leader.

1364
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: I didn't lead today. I didn't make plays today.

1365
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: That's on me.

1366
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 2: I'll be better next week. That won't happen again. It's okay,

1367
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: oh Joe. It's okay to not have it, to not

1368
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: be good on a particular day. It's gonna happen to everybody.

1369
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 2: But a part of being a professional, A part of

1370
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: being a pro, because he's a professional football player, a

1371
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: pro is when things don't go your way, you still

1372
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: look down to the eye that camera and when they

1373
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: asked you answer every question that they asked. What happened

1374
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: out there today? Guys, it was a rush one on

1375
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: me today. I wasn't good enough. I've got to be better.

1376
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 2: My teammates are counting on me. Lamar's counting on me,

1377
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: the fans are counting on me, and I promise you

1378
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: I'll be better next week. What happened? Nothing? God just

1379
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 2: beat me today. I just didn't have it. I know

1380
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 2: I gotta get better. I don't have anything.

1381
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: I can't tell you anything specifically that they did.

1382
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: It was what I didn't do. Yeah, I was lunging.

1383
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. My steps wasn't proper. I stepped underneath.

1384
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: It's okay, bro, it's okay to have a bad game,

1385
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: but don't run.

1386
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: Don't run because if y'all had rush for three hundred,

1387
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: I guarantee you you wouldn't have grabbed your tea, you

1388
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 2: grab your shirt and nodded of the camera.

1389
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: You to talk, So you got to talk and defeat

1390
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: just like you would be. That's what makes us pros.

1391
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 2: We don't hide, we don't run, We don't tuck our

1392
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: tales when things don't go our way.

1393
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: Yes, Lamar stood right there, bravy y'all.

1394
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: Tomlin's tenure the Pittsburgh is under the microscope this week

1395
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: and would have gotten only words had they lost to

1396
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: the Ravens.

1397
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: Oh yo yo? Does them winning this game today?

1398
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 2: Does that cut down on the rumors that Mike Tomlin

1399
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: or the Steelers got to make a decision on Mike Tomlin.

1400
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin going somewhere else. Does he want to go

1401
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 2: somewhere else? Do they wanted to go somewhere else? Do

1402
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: you think that quell the noise of what's going on

1403
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

1404
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 5: No. I think once a rumor like that starts, you

1405
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: always know that rumor always comes from somewhere. I think

1406
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 5: regardless of what they do, I think they're probably gonna

1407
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 5: move on is in a very long time since they

1408
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 5: moved on from a coach. Most of the time they

1409
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 5: allow their coaches to leave on their own. But for

1410
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 5: a rumored like that to start, it has to come

1411
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 5: from somewhere, and it came from in that building. It

1412
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 5: came from in that building. So I think once the

1413
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 5: rumor starts and that five gets the burning, I don't

1414
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: think there's anything that they can do collectively as a group,

1415
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 5: or Mike Tomlin as a head coach that would change

1416
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: the decision that they're gonna make at the end of

1417
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 5: the season.

1418
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna allow him to.

1419
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 5: Uh leave it in his hands to say I'm stepping down,

1420
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 5: I'm stepping away from here for the foreseeable future, and

1421
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna go in a different direction. I think they're

1422
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 5: not going to fire him. I think he's going to

1423
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 5: probably step away and allow him go go out on

1424
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 5: his own on his own way.

1425
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: I don't think me personally, o, Yo, look and coach Tomlin. Look,

1426
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be hard for him to step

1427
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: away or them to fire and if he wins the division,

1428
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

1429
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: But you got to understand, Oyo, they don't won a

1430
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: playoff game and it'll be a decade.

1431
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, what makes you think they win one now?

1432
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: And how many? How many games? How many playoff games

1433
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: have they won since they won that Super Bowl? I

1434
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: know they lost. I know they lost one year to their.

1435
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 2: Patriots in the AFC Championship Game, But how many playoff

1436
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: games since they won that Super Bowl?

1437
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, they beat the Cardinals?

1438
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

1439
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 1: I think that was in Tampa.

1440
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sure how many they won so far.

1441
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: I think they haven't been since sixteen twenty sixteen.

1442
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: I think that might have been the last time.

1443
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: But I don't think they won more than two or

1444
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: three playoff games since they won that last Super Bowl.

1445
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's hard.

1446
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost the Super Bowl to Green Bay and

1447
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: then they went to the championship game.

1448
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: Against the Patriots. What year was that? Okay?

1449
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: You know you know where were Mike Tomlin kind of

1450
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 5: messed up where he would be okay if he had

1451
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 5: drafted a quarterback and didn't worry about Ben Roethlisberger Ben

1452
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 5: Roethlisberger's feelings, drafted the quarterback early.

1453
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 4: He didn't, and you wouldn't.

1454
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 5: You wouldn't have been searching for him right now because

1455
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 5: not having a quarterback, he put you behind the eight

1456
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 5: ball and having to search and search and search. And

1457
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons why you haven't had the

1458
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 5: success that you wanted to, because you haven't found a

1459
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 5: quarterback yet.

1460
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 2: That's why Green Breys has prosperity because Green Bay was

1461
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: unafraid to piss the quarterback off.

1462
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 1: Brett Farr was pissed.

1463
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: He was pissed to the highest pistivity that they drafted

1464
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: Aaron Aaron Rodgers was even higher. And they say, you

1465
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: know what, you better be pissed off and pissed on.

1466
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: So guess what keep it moving?

1467
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: You got, o Jo. You cannot wait till the bridge.

1468
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: You got to start trying to repair it because if

1469
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: you wait till the bridge collapse, it's too late. We

1470
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 2: saw what happened with the Dolphins when they didn't have

1471
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: adequate replacement for for Dan. Yeah, we see when they

1472
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: let these quarterbacks ride on the vine and they're afraid

1473
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: to upset their feelings. Well, I don't want to bring

1474
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 2: anybody bro okay, but when he leave, then what you're

1475
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: gonna do.

1476
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, and they've been stuck for

1477
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: a while, ever since Big Ben is gone.