1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Krisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: The US is increasing strikes against Yemen based Hoothy rebels 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: and MAXA has that story and more from San Francisco. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: ED welcome back, Hey, Thank you so much, Brian, It's 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 3: good to be back. More attacks today hitting ship missile 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: facilities in the Third Assault and Iranian proxy strongholds in 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: recent days. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan A Davos has 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: heard on Bloomberg says well a coalition effort. 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: We mobilized a coalition of countries to take strikes to 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 4: degrade the Houthy's capabilities so their ability to mount sustained 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 4: and complex attacks becomes more difficult. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: Over time, and says attacks will continued as needed. 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 5: Now. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: This comes as Houthy's claimed responsibility for a missile attack 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: against a Malta flag bulk carrier in the Red Sea. 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: The White House is confirming National Security Advisor John Kirby 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: there was. 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 6: The hit today, but no injuries, caused no real significant 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 6: damage to the By the way, most of the attacks 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 6: are knocked out of the sky before they can get 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 6: to the target. 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 3: And Iran attack to what it says was an Israeli 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: spy base in Iraq. This the first time Tehran has 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: publicly said it's attacked in Israeli target since the beginning 26 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: of the Israel Hamas War. Ukrainian President Vlatimer Zelenski condemning 27 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin as a predator and told an audience at 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Davos at any pullback support for Ukraine strengthens Putin. 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 7: Because every reduction in pressure on the aggressor as years 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 7: as years to the war, but every investment in the 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 7: confidence of the defender shortens the war. 32 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: Zelenski says, if Ukraine's economy is stronger, the world security 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: will be stronger as well. President Joe Biden, inviting House 34 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson, sent up Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: other Congression leaders to a meeting tomorrow to talk Ukraine AID. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Zach Cohen says it begins with border talk. 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 8: The larger issue of coming up with some sort of 38 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 8: border agreement that would unlock AID for Ukraine and Israel 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 8: as they are both engaged in war in Europe in 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 8: the Middle East. 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are hundreds of millions of dollars stalled 42 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: in Congress waiting for action. With Donald Trump solidifying his 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: position as the overwhelming front rudder in the GOP presidential race, 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: what are the next steps well, Nikki Haley says New 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Hampshire will correct the Iowa result and is back on 46 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: the trail. 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: Our campaign is the last best hope of stopping the 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: Trump Biden. 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: Nightmare, and says she will not participate in any further 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: debates unless Donald Trump or Joe Biden do. Ron DeSantis, 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: who finished above her in Iowa, says a mistake you owe. 52 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 9: The people of New Hampshire a debate. 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 10: This is a time honored tradition that you debate in 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 10: New Hampshire the week before the New Hampshire primaries. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: But now this is just breaking. In the last hour, 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: ABC's canceled Thursday's debate, and Trump. 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 9: I want to congratulate Ron and Nicky for having a 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 9: good time together. 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 6: We're all having a good time together, and. 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 9: I think they both actually did very well. 61 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: Now. Trump carried fifty one percent of the Iowa COUCAS votes, 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: with the SATUS at twenty one, Hailey not far behind 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: at nineteen. Hailey expects to do much better in New 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 3: Hampshire and the latest polling out of New Hampshire from 65 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: the American Research Group has Haley and Trump tied at 66 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: forty percent, Desantus at four percent. Global News twenty four 67 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: hours a day and whatever you want it with Bloomberg 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: News Now in San Francisco. I met Baxter. This is Bloomberg. 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 9: All right, Brian, Thanks very much. 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: Now we take a look at some of the top 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: business stories of the hour. Well, let's take a closer 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: look here at this Jet Blue decision. A federal judge 73 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: blocked Jet Blues three point eight billion dollar acquisition of 74 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Spirit Airlines. US District Judge William Young sided with the 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: federal government. The Justice Department had challenged the deal, arguing 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: would stifle competition and would drive up airfares. After the decision, 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: shares of Spirit plunged. We get reaction from Bloomberg's George Ferguson. 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 11: I think it near the end of the trial, it 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 11: seemed like it was really close to fifty to fifty 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 11: whether or not the judge was going to deny this 81 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 11: purchase or not. So I don't know that it's super surprising, 82 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 11: but Spirit, obviously, if you were invested in Spirit, shares 83 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 11: I think you were really hanging on, you know, the 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 11: acquisition by Jet Blue. So I think what you see 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 11: is a lot of people exiting based on that. 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's George ferguson Jet Blue and Spirit argued that consolidation 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: is the only way that smaller airlines can effectively compete 88 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: with the dominant carriers. So we mentioned that Spirit shares plunged, 89 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: it was a record forty seven percent in New York. Meantime, 90 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Jet Blue those shares were up nearly five percent. 91 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 9: Well. 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: The US Supreme Court has refused to consider an appeal 93 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: from Apple in an antitrust lawsuit challenging the company's Lucrati 94 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: app store. Here's Bloomberg's Karen Moscow. 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 10: Both Apple and Fortnite maker Epic Games had asked the 96 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 10: court to hear an appeal related to the case. The 97 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 10: justices turned down both requests without explanation. The High Court's 98 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 10: decision will allow an appeals court ruling to go into effect, 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 10: letting developers direct iPhone users to cheaper purchasing options outside 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 10: of Apple's system. The company charges developers a commission of 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 10: as much as thirty percent for digital goods and services 102 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 10: sold through its app store. The decision will likely affect 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 10: billions of dollars in revenue for the iPhone maker. Karen 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 10: Moscow Bloomberg Radio. 105 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 9: Well. 106 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: Today, FED Governor Chris Waller showed an openness to cutting 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: interest rates, but he also appeared to push back to 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: a degree against market expectations for as many as six 109 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: rate cuts this year. 110 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 5: When the time is right to begin lowering rates, I 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: believe it can and should be lowered methodically and carefully. 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 5: In many previous cycles, the FMC cut rates reactively and 113 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 5: did so quickly and often by large amounts. This cycle, however, 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: with economic activity and labor markets in good shape, and 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 5: inflation coming down gradually to two percent, I see no 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 5: reason to move as quickly or cut as rapidly as 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 5: in the past. 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 9: I've got Governor Chris Waller. 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: US equity slid and treasury yields jumped following Waller's comments. 120 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Well, executives at the big US banks are now expecting 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: to pick up in investment banking in the coming months. 122 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Their hopes are really tied to the Fed's apparent pivot 123 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: away from those aggressive rate hikes that we've seen over 124 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the last two years. Today, some of Wall Street's top 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: brass outlined expectations for a turnaround. Here's Goldman Sachs CEO 126 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: David Solomon. 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 9: I'm encouraged by capital markets activity. I'm not going to 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 9: say it's running back to ten year averages right away, 129 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 9: but it. 130 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 6: Has materially improved. I do think you're going to see 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 6: some more meaningful IPOs in twenty twenty four. 132 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: David Solomon. They're the CEO of Goldman Sachs. Separately, both 133 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks and Morgan Stanley wrap up fourth quarter earnings 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: among the big banks today, Goldman topping estimates as the 135 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: firm's equity trading unit posted a jump in revenue triple 136 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: what analysts had expected. Meantime, over at Morgan Stanley, the 137 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: firm's equity trading revenue fell short of forecast. Morgan Stantley 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: executives said lower wealth management margins may stick around Brian Well. 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: Chinese Premier Lie Chung said that China's economy grew around 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: five point two percent in twenty twenty three. He spoke 141 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: earlier at the World Economic Forum in Davos. He emphasized 142 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: the efforts that China has taken to inspire confidence in 143 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 2: its economy and government. 144 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 12: Jingji the quoting dinz one in promoting economic development Jin, 145 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 12: we did not resort to massive stimulus. We did not 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 12: seek short term growth accumulating long. 147 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: Term risks, That's Chinese Premier Lee Chung. The premier's remarks 148 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: confirmed economist sections that China would surpass the official growth 149 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: target of five percent for the year. The focus now 150 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: is for Beijing on how it will keep the momentum 151 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: going this year as it grapples with what is in 152 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: erosion of confidence. Official data showed foreign investment in the 153 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: third quarter of last year turn negative for the first 154 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: time since nineteen ninety eight. 155 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: And interestingly, China is considering more stimulus via some special 156 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: bonds worth one hundred and thirty nine billion dollars. That 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: story from Bloomberg savon Men in Hong Kong. 158 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 13: The new debt issuance would be under a so called 159 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 13: special Sovereign Bond Plan. We hear the plan would involve 160 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 13: the sale of ultra long sovereign bonds. The funds would 161 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 13: be for projects related to food, energy supply chains and urbanization. 162 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 13: This would only be the fourth such sale in the 163 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 13: past twenty six years. It highlights China's efforts to shift 164 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 13: spending responsibility from debt laiden local officials to central authorities. 165 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 13: The plan is another move to stimulate an economy that 166 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 13: is struggling to get momentums. The discussions are ongoing and 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 13: the plan could be changed. 168 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 9: In Hong Kong. 169 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 13: I'm von Mann Bloomberg Radio. 170 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 9: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis here in Hong Kong along with Vonnie 172 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Quinn in New York, and our guest is Jennifer Ree 173 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: at Bloomberg Intelligence, senior litigation analyst. 174 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 9: For How to Trust No. 175 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: We wanted to take a closer look at this second win, 176 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: Jennifer for the Justice Department. In the airline industry. If 177 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: we include the court blocking the alliance of Jet Blue 178 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: and American, it appears the Biden administration is simply not 179 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: going to allow airline mergers and the courts are backing them. 180 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: So does it make it less likely that we'll see 181 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: an appeal? Do you think we will see an appeal? 182 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 14: You know, in this case, I'd be surprised if there's 183 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 14: an appeal. I think that the opinion is very careful 184 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 14: and thorough and really based on an assessment of the 185 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 14: evidence that was presented and in that kind of a decision. 186 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 14: It's a really high standard to get it reversed on 187 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 14: appeal because the appellate panel has to get done reference 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 14: to that decision and the way the lower court judge 189 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 14: interpreted the witness's evidence and the documents. And so I 190 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 14: think it's a really tough thing to do, and it's 191 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 14: going to push them very close to their deal end 192 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 14: date because it could really take another six months. 193 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 15: What does it mean for the individual airlines now, is 194 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 15: Spirit's your probably stop by almost half. 195 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, which is something I think that judge 196 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 14: was worried about. You know, this was a really close 197 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 14: case throughout trial. I thought it was a close call 198 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 14: in reading the decision. It was a close call because 199 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 14: the airlines did make an argument that Spirit was what's 200 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 14: called a flailing firm. In other words, it might be 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 14: better for JetBlue to buy the Spirit and maybe cause 202 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 14: some harm to markets than Spirit being weakened if it's 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 14: left on its own, which looks basically today like what's happening. 204 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 14: And the judge simply said, you know, they didn't make 205 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 14: that defense. They didn't establish the elements they needed to 206 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 14: actually make that defense to justify an otherwise anti competitive deal. 207 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 14: But one of the things he did that was very 208 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 14: interesting is that he limited the injunction to just this 209 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 14: deal signed in July twenty twenty two, So if market 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 14: dynamics change, maybe it could come back. 211 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: And it also does raise question about Alaska airs yes, 212 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: acquisition of Hawaiian holdings, right, what happens next there? 213 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 9: Do you think? 214 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 12: So? 215 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 14: It does? And I do think this DOJ is dug 216 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 14: in in terms of trying to prevent airline consolidation. But 217 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 14: what I'll say about that deal is I think it's 218 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 14: easier to fix than this deal was, because this judge 219 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 14: did say that the market is these origin and destination pairs, 220 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 14: and to the extent that you can divest those pairs 221 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 14: where you overlap, you fix that problem here. They couldn't 222 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 14: do that because they also had a problem in the 223 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 14: routes that spiritflow Flu and Jet Blue didn't where the prices. 224 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: Would go up. 225 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 14: So Alaska and Hawaiian have an ability to fix their 226 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 14: deal in a way that a judge might accept if 227 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 14: they get challenged. 228 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 15: Well, the interesting thing here is that now Spirit is 229 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 15: a nolflaw cheaper. I mean thinks for a day or two, 230 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 15: we'll see what happens. But I mean, could one of 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 15: the other carriers come in and you know, be a 232 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 15: accepted very differently than a Jet Blue, which is a 233 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 15: more direct competitor. 234 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 14: So remember that Frontier wanted this acquisition prior to Jet 235 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 14: Blue and jet Blue won out. So certainly there's a 236 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 14: possibility here that Frontier could come back. And as I said, 237 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 14: because of the way the injunction was narrowly written, it 238 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 14: leaves spirit open to do another deal. Now that's from 239 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 14: the judge. It doesn't mean the dj won't do their 240 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 14: thorough investigation which takes a year, and then again try 241 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 14: to sue the deal in court. 242 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 9: But at that. 243 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 14: Point maybe a judge would be more open to allowing 244 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 14: the deal to go through with the appropriate remedy. 245 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: What were some of the other promises that Jet Blue 246 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: made to try to make this deal work. 247 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 14: You know, the interesting thing is that what Jet Blue 248 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 14: argued was essentially accepted by the judge. That's why this 249 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 14: was such a difficult prediction to make. They said, look, 250 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,479 Speaker 14: coming together will make us will exert a bigger competitive 251 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 14: influence on the legacy carriers that have eighty percent of 252 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 14: the market, you know, the Deltas and the Americans United Southwest. 253 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 14: We can compete against them better if we're combined with Spirit, 254 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 14: and that puts pressure on their pricing. And the judge agreed. 255 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 14: The judge said, yes, that's true, and that is a 256 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 14: pro competitive aspect of this deal, but it's not enough 257 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 14: to fix the harm that will be caused by removing 258 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 14: Spirit as an option for certain consumers that fly certain routes. 259 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 15: Is it the case now that the FTC has a 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 15: win for consumers, do you think, Jen? I mean, can 261 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 15: we definitively say the FTC to the right thing here? 262 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 14: Well, this one's the DOJ And I know it gets 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 14: confusing because they're both so aggressive and they're both in 264 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 14: court challenging mergers right now. But this one is DJ 265 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 14: And I think it's debatable. I think there are people 266 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 14: out there that would have preferred as a consumer that 267 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 14: this deal that the airlines are combined. On the other hand, 268 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 14: I think it's absolutely true that for some routes there 269 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 14: are probably consumers that depended on that very low, unbundled 270 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 14: fear that Spirit offered to go home to see mom 271 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 14: or to take a vacation, and would lose that option 272 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 14: if those planes were retrofitted to become Jet Blue planes 273 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 14: and the fairs went up, So it does help some people. 274 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: I think the thrust of Vonnie's question probably was does 275 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,479 Speaker 2: this sort of put the wind in the sails behind. 276 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 9: The Justice Department now? Perhaps in some other areas. 277 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 14: You know, I think the DJ has had the wind 278 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 14: behind their sales for a while now, because, as you 279 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 14: mentioned right at the beginning, they did win in challenging 280 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 14: the Northeast Alliance right between American and Jet Blue, and 281 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 14: they also won before that when they challenged the Penguin 282 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 14: Random House, Simon and Schuster deal. 283 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 9: So there has been the case for the under Trade Commission, 284 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 9: has it they have not done as well. 285 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 14: They're still fighting Microsoft Activision though they're still going to 286 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 14: appeal that one. 287 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, your morning brief on the 288 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: stories making news from Hong Kong to Singapore and Wall Street. 289 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every day, on Apple, Spotify, 290 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcast. 291 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each day on Bloomberg eleven 292 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: three to zero in New York, Bloomberg ninety nine to 293 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: one in Washington, Bloomberg one oh sixty one in Boston, 294 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: and Bloomberg nine sixty in San Francisco. 295 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 296 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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