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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Travis in West Virginia. Just the

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Speaker 1: three bulls today? You got that right, right?

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Speaker 4: Did you? Either shanahan or McVeigh kind of guy that's

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Speaker 5: For the last five years I've been here, I've never

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Speaker 1: If you could have Bill.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 1: at Jill's Stadium, and the search for staff continues. But

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Speaker 1: I think we're sixty six percent of the way there

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Speaker 1: all the reports are accurate. Uh, in terms of the coordinators.

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Speaker 1: So we have reports, no, well, we've got DeMarcus Covington, yes,

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Speaker 1: pretty much confirmed. We got Jerry Springer affirm for.

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Speaker 1: So you are the special teams coordinator. Isn't that how

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Speaker 7: You're the father different Okay, Jerry was just fights okay,

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Speaker 5: I think Mark Dangels was speculating that maybe, you know,

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Speaker 4: Imagine that that would be pretty fun.

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Speaker 1: I guess let's assume you're going to have a new quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Who's the quarterback coach? That's it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if one of those guys, that's what I would

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Speaker 1: I mean, there is a lot of hand ringing. And

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of hand ringing about the youth and

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Speaker 4: And how much of a leash does this. I don't

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Speaker 5: I like Jromeo is certainly like he's got a chance

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Speaker 5: Were you won Felger Mass yesterday, I was okay, I

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Speaker 4: This is actually funny. So I always tell you guys,

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Speaker 4: they have no receivers, they have no offense the line,

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Speaker 5: It's like, I mean, I get what you're saying, Felger,

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Speaker 4: It's amazing that like he woke up yesterday and decided

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Speaker 1: I think on his part, a lot of this showmanship, Like.

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Speaker 4: It's a complete total rebuilding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this gets to the other thing that you know,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have turned down the job, stay

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Speaker 1: where they are. You know, if you're looking for two

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Speaker 4: This is what you yelled at me for the other day.

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Speaker 1: No, But if you're interested in building an offense in

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Speaker 1: So it did. But if you're looking for that quick

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Speaker 5: I think that was the thing that resonated like through

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Speaker 5: Felger's craziness. But it I mean, you're right, Like it's not.

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Speaker 5: I think everyone's looking at like the third overall pick

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Speaker 5: and it's like, yeah, they have they have resources, but

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Speaker 5: they can't fix everything on offense in this happen. There's

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Speaker 5: no way they're gonna plug every single hole. So really

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Speaker 5: the conversation now becomes, what are you willing to punt

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Speaker 5: on like what do you think you cannot wait for?

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Speaker 1: Like what you know?

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Speaker 5: And that's you know, when you get back to the

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Speaker 1: Or And that's the temptation for the Patriots is other

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Speaker 5: That's that's gonna screw everything up. For all these mock

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Speaker 1: Yeah, none have Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Are the mocks that you're looking at based on just

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Speaker 1: assuming that the Patriots like Daniels. They may not like him, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean I've seen now there's different Like Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 4: That makes sense to me? Yeah, I mean, and I

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Speaker 5: Do you think that they would wait on fields though,

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Speaker 4: They're probably in conversations with teams about trades, you know,

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Speaker 4: we have a fourth year quarterback. We can keep them

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Speaker 4: it's not the worst plan that I've ever heard. It's

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Speaker 4: that's what you do with math. So that's right here

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you if you're gonna pick a

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Speaker 4: Oh right, that's what I'm saying. You let him play

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Speaker 4: and then Caleb Williams is the starter in year two.

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Speaker 1: No matter how good Fields.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what do you wait to see how the free

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Speaker 4: Know, someone get desperate. Yeah, someone that didn't get it,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it's tough to put the puzzle together right now.

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Speaker 5: You know, yeah, that's a surprise the rumors haven't started

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Speaker 5: I'm joking with that part, but you know what I

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Speaker 4: Well till after the Super Bowl Kansas.

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Speaker 4: Chefter just keeps saying it, and I think it's so odd.

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Speaker 3: He's just trying to manifest speak.

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Speaker 4: That Andy Reid might step down, Yeah, you go out

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Speaker 1: He might have said it to somebody.

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Speaker 4: think it makes any sense. Well, they have two former

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Speaker 1: Do you have to blow it up? I mean, in

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Speaker 4: But way Spagnolo and Naggy say, they stay with me,

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Speaker 1: Maybe they want to keep winning too. It's fun to

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think there's any chance that Bill

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Speaker 1: Matt Naggi's not going to be the head coach. I

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Speaker 4: Well, spag Stunk is a head coach too, But they're

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Speaker 1: Of that, I don't. I think they'd be crazy to

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Speaker 4: I could do that the enemy with with maybe Naggie

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Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, those two guys are where they should be.

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Speaker 5: many more games to win with that guy, Like you're

440
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Speaker 5: going to tap out now, Like it's it's not that hard.

441
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Speaker 1: So I I think that I could see a situation

442
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Speaker 1: where Belichick comes in and is just the coach and

443
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Speaker 1: you know, they keep winning.

444
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Speaker 4: What about Buffalo, Well, I think they would keep winning

445
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 4: if Belichick was the coach, because it's the best team

446
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 4: in football.

447
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Right.

448
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 4: I don't see any scenario that the staff all just

449
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 4: stays in place and Bill just becomes the head coach,

450
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Speaker 4: because you think he gets his kids are coming with him,

451
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 4: Patricia's coming, McDaniels is coming.

452
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Speaker 1: But maybe not. I mean you're just assuming all that.

453
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Speaker 4: Maybe I forgot about Joe Judge.

454
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Speaker 5: But if Bill takes a year off, though, does that

455
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Speaker 5: affect his chances? You think?

456
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Speaker 1: Or I think it does. I think everyone's saying, oh,

457
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 1: all these other jobs are going to open up, and

458
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 1: there are always jobs that open up, you know, but

459
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, now he's even a year older.

460
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, right, he's gotten out of that just

461
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Speaker 5: I mean, he's been in this rhythm for what.

462
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Speaker 4: I had a conversation with Chris Jasper about it. He

463
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Speaker 4: seems to think it'd be great for him take a

464
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Speaker 4: step back. You'd be further removed from the stink of

465
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Speaker 4: the four and thirteen. I'm like, yeah, and he'd be

466
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Speaker 4: a year older. He's going to be seventy three when

467
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Speaker 4: he's looking for another job and you're out of the league,

468
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 4: like you're not.

469
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Speaker 5: I mean, maybe he would continue to watch film and

470
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Speaker 5: players and break down and stay up on everything. But

471
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Speaker 5: like I got to imagine. It's hard to I mean,

472
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Speaker 5: Sean Pink could probably tell you what it's like.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, other guys have done it. It's not

474
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Speaker 1: unprecedented that coaches have been out of it come back

475
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Speaker 1: and get head coaching jobs. So it's not unprecedented. But

476
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's it just depends on what

477
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Speaker 1: his demand.

478
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Speaker 4: It's not unprecedented to take a year off. It would

479
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Speaker 4: be unprecedented to take a year off at age seventy two.

480
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's ever been done.

481
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Speaker 4: That's therefore unprecedented.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's Bill Belichick.

483
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Speaker 4: I mean, no, there's probably there's always going to be

484
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Speaker 4: a team. Will mean I put him. He just had

485
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Speaker 4: six openings and didn't get any of them. I know,

486
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Speaker 4: but and talk to reportedly one team.

487
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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. He only talked to one team.

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's no one else wanted them, Fred, I

489
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Speaker 1: don't know about that. I think the Cowboys wanted him, agin.

490
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Speaker 1: I think I think Bill said, when you have an opening,

491
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Speaker 1: i'll talk to you. I'm not going to talk to

492
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Speaker 1: you while you have a coach demployed. I just won't

493
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Speaker 1: get don't job a.

494
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Speaker 10: Couple of games next year early on like I could

495
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Speaker 10: see them parting ways with Mike McCarthy and Belichick sitting there.

496
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Speaker 4: I could see them parting ways with Mike McCarthy. But

497
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Speaker 4: I don't think like automatically means that Bill is going there. Definitely.

498
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Speaker 10: I just like especially with Rabel also, like that's another thing.

499
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Speaker 10: Mike Rabel doesn't get a job right now, that's true.

500
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Speaker 11: Coach of the Year how many seasons ago, like.

501
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Speaker 1: Two, Yeah, what does he do this year?

502
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Speaker 3: I don't know, special advisors.

503
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Speaker 1: Everybody talks about Bill going to the booth. I think

504
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Speaker 1: I think Rabel would be a great analyst. Kidding me,

505
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Speaker 1: he would be a guy who's not afraid to say things.

506
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Speaker 5: Well, I got a text from our producer Don Maxon,

507
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Speaker 5: who's a big BC guy, and he was, you know,

508
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Speaker 5: lamenting Jeff Hafley leaving in the middle of the night

509
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Speaker 5: to go to Green Bay, and I said, go give Rabel.

510
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think it's it's becoming.

511
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Speaker 5: More of a thing now with college, with all the

512
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Speaker 5: NIL stuff, and it's becoming a different environment. And I

513
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Speaker 5: don't know if it's the same kind of I mean,

514
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Speaker 5: maybe it never was that appealing thing to NFL coaches generally,

515
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 5: but it's a different ballgame now in college, and I

516
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Speaker 5: think you have to be ready to deal with all

517
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 5: that stuff. Now.

518
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Speaker 4: My first thought with BC was your old buddy. I

519
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 4: wonder if he regrets yeah from Holy Cross.

520
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Speaker 5: Jmu Well, I mean, you know college football escape better

521
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Speaker 5: than me. What would be James Madison or BC?

522
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Speaker 1: What would be?

523
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Speaker 9: No?

524
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Speaker 8: What?

525
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Speaker 4: BC? Obviously you know a higher job in terms of

526
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Speaker 4: acc and all that stuff. But I'm just saying if

527
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Speaker 4: he didn't hadn't already taken that, if this, I wonder

528
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Speaker 4: if he would have thought differently. I don't know where

529
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Speaker 4: he's from originally.

530
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Speaker 5: He's from Pennsylvania actually, but he's been in Assumption and.

531
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Speaker 4: But it's not like it had to be New England.

532
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Speaker 4: That was something he was always thinking of for Vrabel.

533
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Speaker 4: I don't think BC makes a ton of sense. I

534
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: don't think this kid went there right. I don't think

535
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Speaker 4: it's a great job.

536
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Speaker 1: Was the halfway thing like a shocker to BC?

537
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Speaker 5: Or had planning?

538
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: Well?

539
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Speaker 5: I saw Kevin Stone write in a little bit about it.

540
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Speaker 5: I think he said, all of a sudden, like all

541
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Speaker 5: the football team got up last night at like halftime

542
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Speaker 5: of a basketball game PC and like walked out because

543
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 5: they had just heard that, Like so I think.

544
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Speaker 4: It was a surprise to a lot of people.

545
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Speaker 1: So they in other words, it's going to take them

546
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: a little while for this search. They don't have a

547
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Speaker 1: guy lined up, no.

548
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Speaker 5: No, and it seems like a lot of that's been

549
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: been done already, so.

550
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Speaker 4: It is a little late too for colleges.

551
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Speaker 1: Well if it's usually whoever, the head coach of BC

552
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Speaker 1: has spoken at the coaches clinic that I do, and

553
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Speaker 1: you know, this year, like for some reason b C

554
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't commit. They sent one guy like one of the assistants,

555
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: and it's like that's kind of weird, you know, and

556
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Speaker 1: now we know why.

557
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Speaker 5: Did you get any of the holy Cross guys?

558
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Speaker 1: Just one so far? Drew Canan he didn't go, No,

559
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Speaker 1: I know's he went with him, But about going somebody

560
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 1: else running Holy Cross, there's a lot of shake up

561
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Speaker 1: right now, so we're slow in getting our clinicians in.

562
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Speaker 5: I want to go to that this year.

563
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Speaker 4: I always want to just go and listen, did you

564
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Speaker 4: just get to talk?

565
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: I could that'll yeah, you know, uh x y concepts

566
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: don't know what he calls.

567
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 5: Yeh, leak leak pull pin pin pull.

568
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Speaker 4: You can't pull before you pin. If you you're gonna

569
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Speaker 4: have a bad time. Even I knew that one.

570
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Speaker 12: Scheme.

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Speaker 1: All right, what else before we open it up to

572
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Speaker 1: the listeners, we talked about no game this weekend, No

573
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Speaker 1: game this weekend, No.

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Speaker 4: Picks, don't hurt. No, I'll give the results though, you know,

575
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Speaker 4: at the end of the show, I'll give the results,

576
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 4: and uh, we'll get ready for the last one. Yeah, Freddy,

577
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Speaker 4: he's got a little competition.

578
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, not.

579
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Speaker 5: Really postseason he kicks it into a new level.

580
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Speaker 4: You know, it's got a feel for the league. Well,

581
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Speaker 4: you know what the problem? You know, fred actually gets

582
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: better in the in the postseason because all the teams

583
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 4: that he has generally don't make the playoffs. That's why

584
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 4: last year and last year he rug the last couple

585
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 4: of years he struggled in the postseason because the Bengals

586
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: have been part of the playoffs. This year, they were

587
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: back to being the Bengals. It's gonna be.

588
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Speaker 5: Interesting to see with Joe Burrow comes back, how he

589
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 5: kind of fits into what we've learned this year of

590
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Speaker 5: just Patrick Mahomes continuing to Yeah, I mean we've.

591
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Speaker 1: Given him a pass, but now this is two seasons

592
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Speaker 1: where it's been derailed by injury.

593
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, can he get back into that level?

594
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Speaker 5: And you know what does it look like? Do they

595
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Speaker 5: bring T Higgins back?

596
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

597
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Speaker 4: Do you guys read that piece that that Chris Gasper

598
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Speaker 4: had yesterday and Brady Senior? No, I saw some highlights

599
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Speaker 4: of it. It was very funny, Like the headline was.

600
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Speaker 1: Extremely well, that's what that's what I know. I can't

601
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Speaker 1: scale the the wall that they have at a globe,

602
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, well.

603
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Speaker 4: I could just give you my heart like if you read.

604
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Speaker 1: Like, if you agree that like you thought it was

605
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: a lot more rosy from the headline. But when you

606
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Speaker 1: get into.

607
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Speaker 4: Everybody, this one mildly complimentary quote at the top. It's

608
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Speaker 4: the headline is Brady Senior goes to bat for Belichick,

609
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Speaker 4: right right, and this one mildly compliment three. Uh, he's

610
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Speaker 4: a great, great, great coach, three greats, kind of like

611
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: when I called him a very very good draft damn rights. Right.

612
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 4: And then the rest of it is all about how

613
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Speaker 4: he didn't do nothing with Brady. He thought he thought

614
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Speaker 4: that Brady was done. He went on and won a

615
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Speaker 4: Super Bowl without him. It was just like regular Tom.

616
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Speaker 1: Brady He's a great, great, great coach, but there was

617
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: a butt after that. He's got a personality flaw.

618
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Speaker 4: In Foxborough, there's been His interpersonal skills are terrible, are

619
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Speaker 4: terrible in Foxborough's has been down in the dump dumper

620
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Speaker 4: in the last five years or whatever.

621
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Speaker 5: Ou mister Brady put him in the booth.

622
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Speaker 4: I'd rather have him in the booth than his son. Yeah,

623
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Speaker 4: tell you that.

624
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Paul.

625
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Speaker 5: I'm so curious how to say that. I think everybody

626
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 5: kind of default to it. Tom Brady, he'll figure it out.

627
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Speaker 4: Well, he's so competitive. He never figured out acting, so

628
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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a good point. And Deuce would know.

629
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Speaker 4: You do spend time in Hollywood, Alex, did you know

630
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Speaker 4: that Duce used to be in Hollywood? I have a

631
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: whole song about it.

632
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: You have been working on some screenplays?

633
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, you gotta work on that one today.

634
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah.

635
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: Fred's notes are these?

636
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: What's the genre drama working on?

637
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Speaker 5: We're working on our thing, on our little schedule, our thing,

638
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 5: but our thing with Fred gave me some notes, but

639
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 5: it came with the disclaimers.

640
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't mind the stain on the front page. That's

641
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: to my interview. When I interview with Fred, he had

642
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 4: a stain on his T shirt.

643
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 5: And I was like, well, from the looks, somebody really

644
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 5: liked it.

645
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 13: Yeah.

646
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 4: I was just getting over the the the unfortunate phrase

647
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: from last week.

648
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Speaker 1: You know what it is. It's like liquid glue that

649
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: I was trying to glue this lamp shade and I

650
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: got it all over the place, and it does look

651
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: liquid glue, liquid glue office in my office, it does look.

652
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: So when I handed Douce, this is.

653
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 4: Either a deviant or he's trying to get high glue.

654
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when I handed Deuced the I said, it's

655
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: not what you see.

656
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 4: So we'll be working on that later.

657
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff, good stuff. You smell it. It's glue. Yeah,

658
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: I can imagine a photo.

659
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Speaker 5: I was about to run through the photocopy of machine.

660
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Speaker 4: Just to be safe. I got some late black live.

661
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Speaker 4: I don't need a DNA test.

662
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Speaker 1: You know what was.

663
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Speaker 4: Is that hair? Jim?

664
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Speaker 1: I know that movie?

665
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Speaker 4: Okay? Freddie got a reference?

666
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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight five five pass five hundred is taken hotline

667
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Speaker 1: web radio at pages dot com. Is the email address?

668
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Speaker 1: All right, let's open it up, right, open it up.

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Speaker 1: Whatever we missed I'm sure lines over there, it really is.

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Speaker 1: We got it fixed, right, yeah, ish, Yeah, there's still

671
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Speaker 1: a couple of lines down, but we've got four lines working.

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Speaker 1: Arthur's in New York. What's up, Arthur?

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Speaker 14: Hey, how are you guys?

674
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Speaker 15: First?

675
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Speaker 14: I heard Paul say earlier that he was a little

676
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Speaker 14: wishy washy on Daniels. Personally, I'm just wishy because I

677
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Speaker 14: wish that we just draft this guy. I mean, I

678
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 14: think he's the best quarterback in the draft. If I

679
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Speaker 14: had the first kick, I would take him there. But

680
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Speaker 14: my second point is there's a lot of people, like

681
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Speaker 14: on the internet campaigning about certain offensive coordinators who they

682
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Speaker 14: think the best offensive coordinator higher should be. But the

683
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Speaker 14: reality is none of us know these guys personally. I mean,

684
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Speaker 14: Brian Flurry is the forty nine Ers tight ends coach.

685
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Speaker 14: Thomas Brown is the Bears passing game coordinator. I didn't

686
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Speaker 14: even know that a passing game coordinator was a thing.

687
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Speaker 9: Nick Cayley isn't formerly with the papers, but as the

688
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 9: Rams tight ends coach, how does anybody actually know unless

689
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 9: you are breaking down their playbook know them personally, are

690
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Speaker 9: coaching within the building, who the best guy is?

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, on that on the internet. Yeah,

692
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Speaker 4: I agree with you on that. I think people are

693
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Speaker 4: just going off of resumes, and that's what I go

694
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Speaker 4: off of more than anything. I'm looking for a guy

695
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 4: who actually has some experience calling plays. But I wanted

696
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Speaker 4: to get back Athor to your original point about Caleb

697
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Speaker 4: Williams and Jade and Daniels. What is it about Daniels

698
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Speaker 4: that you like more than Williams.

699
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Speaker 9: Well, first of all, the rushing ability is on a

700
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Speaker 9: completely different level. He's run for over two thousand yards

701
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Speaker 9: and twenty touchdowns over the past two seasons. He is

702
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Speaker 9: by far the best rusher in the draft. You could

703
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Speaker 9: make a case that Caleb Williams has a little bit

704
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Speaker 9: better pocket presence his ability to move around the pocket,

705
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Speaker 9: but rushing ability on the whole. If Jayden Daniels couldn't

706
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Speaker 9: throw the ball at all, he would still have such

707
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Speaker 9: a high four just due to his rushing ability. He's

708
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Speaker 9: a better rusher than justin Field in my opinion. He's

709
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Speaker 9: that special and electric of a rusher. He can, you know,

710
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Speaker 9: snap off a seventy yard run. It's not something that

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Speaker 9: Caleb Williams is gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Okay, got it? And I would agree with you. I

713
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Speaker 4: think he's a better runner than Caleb Williams.

714
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Speaker 9: But he's not just a better runner. He's an elite

715
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Speaker 9: runner like Jalen Hurts type.

716
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Speaker 4: So would you rather have Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes.

717
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Speaker 9: Well, that's that's the thing that I love about Jaden Daniels.

718
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Speaker 9: He completed over seventy percent of his passes this year,

719
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Speaker 9: even as a true freshman at Arizona State.

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Speaker 4: In a completely I don't complete seventeen.

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Speaker 9: Touchdowns to two interceptions, He's it was a beautiful ball.

722
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Speaker 9: That's what people are going to realize when they actually

723
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Speaker 9: see him.

724
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Speaker 4: He's not a great passer. He's not He's not a

725
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Speaker 4: great passer. He's got a lot of work to do

726
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Speaker 4: as a passer.

727
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Speaker 9: But what makes you say that?

728
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Speaker 4: Because he can from watching them watching him against good defenses.

729
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Speaker 9: He Strugglesxas he played Texas A and M, a defense

730
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Speaker 9: that hadn't given up a touchdown in twenty five straight drive.

731
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Speaker 4: Watch the Florida State game, both of them acually.

732
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Speaker 9: Put up over three hundred and fifty yards and free

733
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Speaker 9: touchdown against Alabama three hundred fifty yards and three touchdown

734
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Speaker 9: this season.

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Speaker 4: He's not a great passer. He's a great runner. I

736
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Speaker 4: agree with you on that, but he's nowhere near Caleb

737
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Speaker 4: Williams as a passer, not even close.

738
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Speaker 9: But you've got to look at the offense.

739
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got better weapons, which I.

740
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Speaker 9: Agree with you because like Malik Agbors is also going

741
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Speaker 9: to be a top ten pick in the draft. But

742
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Speaker 9: I don't think you can discount what he actually did.

743
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Speaker 9: I mean, he was the runaway heisman. He had forty

744
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Speaker 9: passing touchdowns this season. That's more than Caleb Williams by

745
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Speaker 9: a lot. He had over forty eight hundred yards.

746
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Speaker 4: You know, and no one had better stats than Bailey's appy,

747
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Speaker 4: Like the stats don't like just what just watching you

748
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Speaker 4: you can't possibly compare Jalen Daniels as a passer to

749
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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, Like they're not even close.

750
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Speaker 9: But he did it, Okay, Look in twenty nineteen, he

751
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 9: was That was the same offense that Ni kil Harry

752
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Speaker 9: was in in twenty eighteen at Arizona State. That offense

753
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 9: was broken, right, They were not an explosive offense. They

754
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Speaker 9: were coming off of HERM Edwards as a coach, who you.

755
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Speaker 4: Know, I'm just going off of last year. I'm not

756
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Speaker 4: going I'm not gonna like but you have to look.

757
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Speaker 4: But I'm not going to hold against him what he

758
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Speaker 4: did when he was eighteen years old six years ago.

759
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Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the last two years.

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Speaker 9: But does that not matter to you that as a

761
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Speaker 9: true freshman in the.

762
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Speaker 4: ES season, that he struggled a little bit in the.

763
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Speaker 9: Pac twelve, which is a difficult you.

764
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Speaker 4: Know, it's not really, it's not a it's I mean,

765
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Speaker 4: this this past year it was. It was pretty good,

766
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Speaker 4: but traditionally it hasn't been all that good.

767
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Speaker 15: But for an.

768
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Speaker 9: Eighteen year old true freshman.

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Speaker 4: He struggled. And I get it, like he was just

770
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Speaker 4: a kid that I get it. I can't. I can't.

771
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Speaker 4: Obviously he's related to Jalen Daniels in some way. I mean,

772
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Speaker 4: and fifty. Do you ever watch college games and see

773
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Speaker 4: anybody with a bad quarterback rating?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely? And fifty is exceptional, especially as a true freshman.

775
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Speaker 4: Okay, all the other all the other people that watch

776
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Speaker 4: these games are wrong. Author is the only one that

777
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Speaker 4: sees the true greatness in the passing. He's got a

778
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Speaker 4: lot of work to do as a passer. He looks

779
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Speaker 4: to run. He's in everything he said about Okay, Daniels

780
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Speaker 4: as a runner, I agree.

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Speaker 1: With I don't know answer.

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Speaker 4: He looks to run first. But let me ask you,

783
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Speaker 4: and that is something that is hard to do in

784
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Speaker 4: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Is he a better passer now than Lamar Jackson was

786
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Speaker 1: when he was going?

787
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Speaker 4: Very similar?

788
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Speaker 1: Very similar?

789
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Speaker 4: And by the way, as long as we're just gonna

790
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Speaker 4: go by stats, why don't you look at Lamar Lamar

791
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Speaker 4: Jackson's stats his junior year when he won the Heisman Trophy.

792
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Speaker 4: He just said this guy, he just said he can't

793
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Speaker 4: he couldn't throw. Well, absolutely absolutely. Stats were there, So

794
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: don't tell me about one hundred and fifty passer rating

795
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 4: in the in the forty touchdowns, like.

796
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Speaker 9: But look, what was the knock on Lamar Jackson coming

797
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Speaker 9: into the league.

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Speaker 4: He was a little right, he was no, he needed

799
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Speaker 4: to develop as a passer, but that's.

800
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Speaker 9: What he did. But it was also his frame. That's

801
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 9: the biggest knock on Jaden's right now. Was his frame.

802
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: No, the biggest knock on The biggest knock on Lamar

803
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Speaker 1: Jackson was if you bring him in, you're gonna have

804
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: to redo your offense to tailor to his game.

805
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Speaker 4: Because he wasn't a an accomplished passer, and I think,

806
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, I think he's great, but

807
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 4: I think there's still questions about that.

808
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, but is forty touchdowns to foeig interceptions not

809
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Speaker 9: impressive as a pastor?

810
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Speaker 4: Have you like it's not? It doesn't at the college level.

811
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Speaker 4: It does absolutely nothing for me. Nothing.

812
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Speaker 9: But he wasn't bon Nicks through completed seventy I think.

813
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Speaker 4: Bon Nick stinks, Like That's what I'm telling you.

814
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Speaker 1: I don't.

815
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Speaker 4: I don't think Boone Nicks is a very accurate passer,

816
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 4: and his completion percentage was through the roof.

817
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 9: But Jayden Datis was throwing it down the field and

818
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Speaker 9: completing as past as.

819
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Speaker 4: That's two wide open players like Matt Jones threw it

820
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: all over the place too. I don't think he can

821
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: hit the broadside of a barn.

822
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 9: He made tight window throws. To say in a vacuum

823
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 9: that everyone was wide open because he had good weapons

824
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Speaker 9: around him is false.

825
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Speaker 4: I just don't think he's a great pastor. We can

826
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Speaker 4: agree to disagree with Arthur, like, I don't need a

827
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 4: stat to tell him he's a great You need.

828
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Speaker 1: To stay in touch here, I mean we need, we

829
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Speaker 1: need you to end point. We need you to be

830
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Speaker 1: a regular cont just just thank you before author goes.

831
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Speaker 4: Of course you dump them. I like Jayden Daniels, I

832
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: just don't like them like that.

833
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: Well, he has.

834
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Speaker 4: Worked to do it.

835
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Speaker 1: Somebody's going to be right here, he has worked. No,

836
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: somebody's going to be right.

837
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Speaker 4: My guess is neither one of us is going to

838
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Speaker 4: be right.

839
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well we'll see.

840
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 4: You know, because if you just go by like seventy

841
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: percent completion percentage, that doesn't tell me anything. But and

842
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Speaker 4: that's what he was doing. He was giving me that

843
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: twenty touchdowns, but seventy percent. I don't care. He's not

844
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 4: in the car. He's not a gifted pocket passer. He's

845
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: a great gifted runner.

846
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: Okay, but I think like I like it. Arthur brought

847
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: it first call, right out of the choot bang. I

848
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: love it to bring it.

849
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Speaker 4: I wish I thought.

850
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Speaker 1: And it's not like he's from New York. He wasn't

851
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Speaker 1: even from you know, Louisiana.

852
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 5: Would I mean if I was his passionate about Jade

853
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: Daniel as he is, I would be like riding high

854
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 5: right now because I'm like, we got him, Like, let's

855
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: go we're gonna get him.

856
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 4: We're gonna get it, and I will not be pissed

857
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 4: off if they draft Jayden Daniels. I'm just a little

858
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 4: wishy washing on him. I don't think I think he

859
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: can go either way, but if they decide that, they

860
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: think he's worth the investment, like I think, I look

861
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: back at Lamar Jackson with a lot of regret from

862
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: the Patriots' perspective. Now it's a little different at the

863
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: end of the first round. It is the top of

864
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Speaker 4: the first round. But I think that that was a

865
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: lost opportunity. I think that would have been the perfect

866
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: kind of guy who's not going to be ready in

867
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 4: clamoring for playing time as you go through the twilight

868
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 4: of Brady's career. I think that Josh mcdeniells was interested

869
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 4: in it, and I don't think they pulled the trigger

870
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, and I think that was a mistake.

871
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: So if they end up getting Jayden Daniels and Arthur

872
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 4: ends up being right, I think we'll all be happy.

873
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Because Josh says, you know, I really like this Lamar

874
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: Jackson in the room says, and you like Tim Tebow.

875
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: So I think you'll pass Fred. I think you might

876
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: be right. I think you might be right. Go sit

877
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: in the back. But listen if Arthur ends up being right,

878
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: and he comes in and he's you know, he's more CJ.

879
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: Stroud as a passer than Lamar Jackson was. That's great.

880
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 4: And he's the Patriots guy, and you got your guy,

881
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 4: got our guy.

882
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: I liked his first line, he says, Paul said, I'm

883
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: wishing washed. He says, I'm wishing.

884
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 4: I wish I did like that line.

885
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: That was a good line. Line He's called other shows before,

886
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: he's practiced this. Oh, but I love it. Eldred's in

887
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: New York. What's up, Eldrick? What are you doing in

888
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: New York?

889
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: The track supposed to be in New York?

890
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean shot.

891
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 4: Eldress on the run.

892
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 16: Alice took the merrill and the fellows. How y'all doing good? Hey, Hey,

893
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 16: I love that passion. But bro, I'm gonna disagree with you.

894
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 16: He wasn't the runaway Heisman because like all the understaid,

895
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 16: he should have went with to with Pennick. He should

896
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 16: have got it, but they gave it to him. And

897
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 16: another thing they do have U picking Daniels in three

898
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 16: number four, h Marvin Harrisons going to Arizona. But me,

899
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 16: if I had my wish, I'm getting there. I'm getting

900
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 16: Marvin Harrison at three and on the stuck round on

901
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 16: getting Michael Pennick. He's a better passing. He can't run

902
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 16: like like y'all said, you don't run like Josh Daniel

903
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 16: or excuse me, Josh Allen or Jay and Daniels. But

904
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 16: he can't move, and he's more active the past.

905
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: Like vand Wagon for a while, I'm.

906
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 16: Gonna I'm gonna keep being on it. You know what

907
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 16: I told you all about Strout last year? What you say,

908
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 16: Mike so Elder, just like starting all over again?

909
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: What year? But but Eldred, hold on a second. I

910
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: mean telling us about Stroud last year. It was useless,

911
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 4: like he went with the third pick of the second

912
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: pick of the draft or whatever he went, but it

913
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: was he number two or three.

914
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 16: I would have traded, man said, I would have traded

915
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 16: Max tried to shoot.

916
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's not gonna do it. I mean, I

917
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: can trade all my bad players to try to get

918
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: the good ones too, but no one's really gonna do

919
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: that for you. Well, may by trading Mac Jones, wasn't

920
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 4: getting you c J. Stroud last year.

921
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 16: Fifteen, I want to trade up to get what I

922
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 16: would have did go.

923
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: It would have done whatever it took, all right, Like I.

924
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 16: Said, I watched it for two years, like I'm watching

925
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 16: Pin three.

926
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: Like you you can you can tell me like in

927
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 4: twenty one, I like Justin Fields better than mac Jones,

928
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: and I would have traded up from fifteen to get

929
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: to get to get Justin Fields. That that's that's realistic.

930
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: The Patriots didn't realistically have a chance to trade up

931
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: and get CJ. Stroud last year with with mac Jones.

932
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: So Arthur's for Daniels Aldrich for Pennick.

933
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: Pennick struggling a little bit. Although I don't care. I

934
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: don't care what happens the super Bowl.

935
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 16: He did the first day, but but but the last

936
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 16: couple of days the Interval network and he's showing it. No,

937
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 16: he's not Okay, he did the first day, but he

938
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 16: but the one he's better than rest up.

939
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 4: The only one I heard that was really bad was

940
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: next which I'm not surprised that because I don't think

941
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: he's very good.

942
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 16: Yeah, but but but it's stopped going up a little

943
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 16: bit and he's improved doing.

944
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 17: Better, and I like what they like.

945
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 16: You said he can throw short, he came through a medium.

946
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 16: He look, damn dude, yesterday doing it? They all right,

947
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 16: I don't know.

948
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: All right, Aldritch is on board for Pennis. We got

949
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: just don't get any rush on Arthur for Daniels. Next

950
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: up is Tony in Michigan. What's up Tony?

951
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 18: Hey, lady and gentlemen, how are we doing?

952
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 9: Yeah?

953
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 18: I guess quarterback wise, I'm I'm putting my vote in

954
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 18: for Drake.

955
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: May Drake May Drake may caller.

956
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 18: All right, Yeah, I kind of think that Daniels love

957
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 18: is more people talking themselves into it because we won't

958
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 18: be able to get Williams.

959
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 15: Or May Sure. I kind of agree with you, and

960
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 15: you know, I.

961
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 18: Mean, Daniels is a talented runner. He's definitely the best

962
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 18: runner of you know, of the three. I think he's

963
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 18: smaller than Lamar when Lamar was coming out, and I

964
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 18: just don't love, you know, he screams one hit. Wonder

965
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 18: to me who produced when he had great talent?

966
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: But anyway, so what do you like about may Well

967
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: the draft?

968
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a little defensive of Daniels and

969
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 4: take Arthur's argument he wasn't a stiff at Arizona State.

970
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: He was pretty good there. You know, he wasn't a

971
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: one hit wonder. Now he went to the Heisman Trophy

972
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: candidate in the SEC, playing against the you know, the

973
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: best of the best. But he wasn't terrible his first

974
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: year at Arizona State.

975
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 18: No, I mean, he was pretty terrible, but it's not

976
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 18: he was not really, It's not like, oh, watch this guy.

977
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 18: You know, this isn't a guy to put on the

978
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 18: radar and like he's going to be amazing, you know

979
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 18: as a prospect of seems like a guy that climbed.

980
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely climbed this year. He put himself in

981
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: a different level.

982
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 19: Absolutely, Yeah, But I was so I guess going to

983
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 19: the draft, the way that I see this team, the

984
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 19: offense is completely barren and the defense is old.

985
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 18: To me, this is a time where we should be

986
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 18: looking at trading away guys like Jude and John Jones,

987
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 18: you know, getting what draft capital we can for some

988
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 18: of these aging guys on defense and really focusing on

989
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 18: building both sides of the ball through the draft. I

990
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 18: know people don't like that because it's kind of committing

991
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 18: to you know, allow people see the defense as elite

992
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 18: still and that if we can get a mediocre offense

993
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 18: will be complete competing for the playoffs. I just don't

994
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 18: feel the same.

995
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: I love that.

996
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 18: I think by the time the offense is ready to compete,

997
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 18: the defense is going to be you know, a bunch

998
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 18: of Judon's coming off a season ending injury. You know,

999
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 18: Barmore and Gonzalez is the only young building blocks we

1000
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 18: have right now.

1001
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 4: I love that idea of Judon. I think Judon could

1002
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: fetch you something. Yeah, did you get your second round?

1003
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 13: Oh?

1004
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's more ammunition to reload.

1005
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: And I kind of like that.

1006
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 18: If there, I wouldn't and I wouldn't be opposed to

1007
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 18: trading away Judon and trying to extend Uja to keep

1008
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 18: a young pass rusher around. I know, you know, he

1009
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 18: hasn't really been up to the level of what you know,

1010
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 18: a young pass rusher will probably get on the free

1011
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 18: agent market.

1012
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 4: I'm less interested in.

1013
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, the problem with is he's so specialized.

1014
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 4: He just.

1015
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't love him, but

1016
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 18: I think just you know, to keep some sort of

1017
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 18: semblance of a pass rush. You know, if they did

1018
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 18: move on from judon it'd be an idea to kick around.

1019
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 18: I just I guess, I guess I'm just wondering, you know,

1020
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 18: and then I can hang up. You know, if you

1021
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 18: guys feel similarly that the timelines aren't lining up, the

1022
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 18: defense is going to be you know, aging and kind

1023
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 18: of declining by the time the offense is there, and

1024
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 18: you know, should be kind of look at rebuilding the

1025
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 18: whole thing right now.

1026
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think that all right. I think Tony.

1027
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: I think Tony makes good points. I don't really care

1028
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: about the time the timetable lining up as much as

1029
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: Tony does.

1030
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: But if you could.

1031
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: Tell me that the offense is going to get fixed,

1032
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: you can be fine on defense. Yeah, Like, they're not

1033
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: a lot of really good offenses that aren't threats because

1034
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 4: the defense stinks. Like generally, if you have a really

1035
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 4: good offense, you're a contender. And I think the Lions

1036
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: defense stinks as as a comparison, and then he absolutely

1037
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 4: should be playing a week from Sunday. But the timetable

1038
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: part of it, I want to make the move that

1039
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: I'm interested in, the move that he wanted to make,

1040
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 4: because I think that that could quicken the timetable Yeah,

1041
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: Like I think if you could get like a you know,

1042
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 4: draft capital for for those two guys that he mentioned,

1043
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: Judon and Jones. I don't know. I don't think Jonathan

1044
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: Jones is getting you anything, but Judon could for a

1045
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: team that that's a premiere position and he's you know,

1046
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: he's a proven standout pass rusher for someone like like

1047
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb when he went to the Dolphins. You know

1048
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: someone might do that. Yeah, someone might give you a

1049
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: second round.

1050
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: Pame season one.

1051
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 4: I mean is that we think with Yeah, I mean

1052
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 4: it could happen. I just that to me, that's the timetable.

1053
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: I'm interested. How do I quicken the pace of adding

1054
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: all the things that I need to add on offense? Well,

1055
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: I think it's worth adding.

1056
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 5: I mean perspective, Wise guy, I mean, we don't know

1057
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 5: what's gonna happen this year, but this group guy gotscha.

1058
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: Barmore and Wise are.

1059
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: All free agents next year.

1060
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 4: So you know, Tony's right about the age. Barbore and

1061
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: Zas are the only two young guys on defense. So

1062
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the sound of that. Barmore. You know,

1063
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: resource to.

1064
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: The defensive line is pretty old except for Barmore, but.

1065
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: Other than I mean jude On Bentley Jones.

1066
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: I said, well, Judea, but like, how old is Jonathan Jones?

1067
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 4: Thirty?

1068
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think he was that old.

1069
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: I know, because everybody thinks the only reason why they

1070
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: were average age on their roster was because Matthew Slater's

1071
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 4: been around a long time, but they had an old team.

1072
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean, but you know, is still on

1073
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: his first contract, but he's a free he's gone.

1074
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: I know he's gone, but he's not that old. No, no, no, no.

1075
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: If they're if they're all back, then that's different. But

1076
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that he's gone, is gone. Like those are

1077
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: the young guys on defense. You know, you could lose Jennings,

1078
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: j Duggar, Barmore and then and then then you have

1079
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: basically just Gonzales left as a young guy, you know,

1080
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: head heading into the twenty five. They should be right

1081
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: getting him because all those guys are up now right

1082
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: now except for Barmore will be up next year.

1083
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now.

1084
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 5: That's I mean no disrespect to Ouch or Douggar or

1085
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 5: a mind you, but Barmore would be my priority right now.

1086
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 5: And I think you know to all what we're talking about.

1087
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: You can't let him go.

1088
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 4: A long term impact defensive lineman. You know, it's I

1089
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 4: would agree. I would agree Barbara has a chance to

1090
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 4: be special.

1091
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Eric's in New Jersey. What's up, Eric?

1092
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 20: Hey, how are we doing today?

1093
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: Good?

1094
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 20: Like I said, I totally piggyback off of Tony again.

1095
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 20: I'm with him, stride by stride. I thought you should

1096
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 20: have been able to trade John Jones last year at

1097
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 20: the trade deadline. But you know, considering most teams need

1098
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 20: a lot of secondary help. I mean, he's gonna be

1099
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 20: thirty two coming at the end of this next season.

1100
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 20: I mean, people look at that Texans model and they

1101
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 20: try to see that we can replicate that, but we

1102
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 20: don't have the foundational pieces that There's no Punsole, there's

1103
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 20: no Mason here, there's no Nico Collins here. You know,

1104
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 20: some of those places, you know on the offensive side

1105
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 20: is just not there. And when you look at this,

1106
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 20: when you when you look at the roster and totality,

1107
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 20: there's no way that you can sit here and say,

1108
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 20: you know, give the free agent class. You know, maybe

1109
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 20: if you hit it out and park out the draft,

1110
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 20: but you know, maybe realistically you get two three guys

1111
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 20: you know on average, but you know, how quick can

1112
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 20: you really you know, in the state of this roster

1113
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 20: where you have most of your defensive turnover. Like again,

1114
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 20: D's just mentioned a lot of these guys as free

1115
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 20: agents next year. You know, there's no talent, you know

1116
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 20: backing these guys up. There's no talent, especially.

1117
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 15: On the offensive side.

1118
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 20: I mean, so, like, what is like the realistic like

1119
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 20: expectations that we can sit here and say, because I

1120
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 20: think I don't want us to fall into that trap

1121
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 20: of twenty twenty one where the free agent class to say,

1122
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 20: if Pittman, Higgins are all locked up, you're picking third

1123
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 20: tier guys. Evans is locked up, you know, Curtis Damuel

1124
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 20: Markith Brown. I mean, is that who using our you know,

1125
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 20: change lights? And again the draft, I mean, yeah, there's

1126
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 20: a lot of good wide receivers, but game breakers like

1127
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 20: your Neighbors and goons A Harrison. I mean, I think

1128
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 20: it's that class. And then there's you know, maybe Keon

1129
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 20: Coleman and die Miss and then there's just good wide

1130
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 20: receivers like your kens Are Bourne type. So I mean

1131
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 20: it's just realistic. I just don't know, how can you

1132
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 20: the expectation. How can you, like, what is the vision

1133
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 20: that you got to see individually? And I'll take it

1134
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 20: off the line. Thanks God, all.

1135
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: Right, thanks, that's a great question. I mean that's what

1136
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 5: I'm you know, scrambling to try to figure out how

1137
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 5: you can rebuild all these pieces. And then meanwhile, like

1138
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 5: I just said, you're staring at next year, the defense

1139
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: is gonna they're gonna all turn over and along the line,

1140
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 5: which I mean, I think is you know, critical. I

1141
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 5: mean that's you know, say what you will about last

1142
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: season's Patriots team, but they at least were able to

1143
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 5: kind of win the line of scrimmage and do pretty

1144
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: well against the run.

1145
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen overnight, no, you know.

1146
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I think that there's a there's

1147
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 5: no tackles in the league. You know, it's just it's

1148
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 5: so hard to find tackles. So I just I think,

1149
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: and it should have been a priority last year. They

1150
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 5: have to figure out a way to get a stud

1151
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 5: tackle this year one way or another like that. That

1152
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: to me, like quarterback, you can take a swing on it,

1153
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 5: and I you know, I just continue to think with receivers,

1154
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: there's so many good receivers, you know, and it's like

1155
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison, they simply.

1156
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't know the name, but if they had simply

1157
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: replaced cold Strange with a tackle, they might be in

1158
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: a better position right now, very possibly name good tackle

1159
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: out of that draft.

1160
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different things that you could

1161
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: do with that with names. So instead of Cold Strange,

1162
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: you take Trent McDuffie or no, but I know he's not.

1163
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm not done. Then instead of taking Christian Gonzales, you

1164
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 4: have an all pro cornerback already in Trent McDuffie. So

1165
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: now I can take a tackle, just com on it,

1166
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: you know, and maybe you know, and I don't know

1167
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: how good. What's the the guy that we swindled the

1168
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: Jets out of Dwan Jones? Which one is that the

1169
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 4: fourth round pick? Which one is the guy that Pittsburgh

1170
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 4: Tooks couldn't take Broderick Jones? You know, maybe you'd take

1171
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: Broderick Jones and you're not looking here, you know, walking

1172
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: around with a tin cup in your hand looking for

1173
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: a tackle, right like that. That's the kind of those

1174
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 4: are the sort of change actions. So that's where I

1175
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: sat drafting kills you. That's where I say to Eric,

1176
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: That's what I say to him, is like, you know,

1177
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't know where this is going to come from.

1178
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: It's going to come from just being smart going forward

1179
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: and not making mistakes. The bottom line is now, regardless

1180
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: of who they take and where, they need to stack

1181
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: some draft classes together of quality players.

1182
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: And if you do that, you start, you know, like

1183
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: the Jets.

1184
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: You can do it in two years the Jets. The

1185
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: Jets did it right.

1186
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: The Jets are close. They just need a quarterback right

1187
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: now and maybe some O line hope help.

1188
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 4: But that's not that hard, you know, and if they

1189
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 4: had a good quarterback, their O line would look a

1190
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: lot better. Like they have two good like they did

1191
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 4: invest in their offensive line. They all they just always

1192
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 4: get hurt. Yeah, Beckton has been a disappointment, but verit.

1193
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: Tucker's really good. He's just never healthy.

1194
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, it can be done. It's like, obviously

1195
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: there's hope. You just have to you have to hit,

1196
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: you have to be smart.

1197
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 4: And you can be You can get by with average

1198
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 4: offensive line play if you're good. Like the problem with

1199
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: the Jets is obvious. They just don't have a quarterback

1200
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: that they can rely on.

1201
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. Heye Todd.

1202
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 4: By the way, they're mex.

1203
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 12: And have a trouble with the phone. I don't know

1204
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 12: if it's on your end or mind, but it's end.

1205
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 15: Probably.

1206
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 12: So here's what my thought process is. I don't think

1207
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 12: we should get a quarterback this year because we're probably

1208
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 12: going to get a young, new type OC, and I

1209
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 12: would like to get somebody veteran, just as a place older,

1210
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 12: come in and let that OC get a year under

1211
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 12: his belt and then develop the offense because right now

1212
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 12: there's only one star on the offense, one guy that

1213
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 12: I consider to be you know, star worthy, and he

1214
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 12: start slot back, I think that's it. I don't pop

1215
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 12: our running back, like give me a star, give me

1216
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 12: a new one, and everything else, like our online is garbage,

1217
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 12: our receivers garbage. We need to start new. So I

1218
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 12: think we need to get because we're most likely going

1219
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 12: to get a young OC. I can't see us getting anybody.

1220
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 12: I can't see Daniels coming back. Please no, So let's

1221
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 12: get the OC one year with a golder quarterback that's

1222
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 12: just going to sit in there and hang out for

1223
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 12: a year and build the offense. And then when we

1224
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 12: can go in the next year's draft and we'll have it,

1225
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 12: hopefully a bit of an old line, maybe a receiver

1226
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 12: or two, and you know, we can get that quarterback

1227
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 12: then and give him something.

1228
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: So you're saying, don't draft a quarterback this year, get

1229
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: a bridge guy and wait.

1230
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: But why not do both?

1231
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 21: Exactly?

1232
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 4: Why not get a bridge guy and draft a quarterback

1233
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 4: and let him let him learn?

1234
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 12: Can you can you afford that? Can you actually get

1235
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 12: both into Like?

1236
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: Sure, why not?

1237
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 12: Because we need I don't want a young guy going

1238
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 12: in there when this line is rebuilding and a new Like, no.

1239
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: You're not gonna play him, He's gonna sit, He's gonna watch.

1240
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: I mean you can if you don't want to play him,

1241
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: you have that, you know, signed to Kobe Brissett and

1242
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 4: draft Jad and Daniels be free. He's a free agent.

1243
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: He's always free. Now he's a mercenary.

1244
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm just saying, like, thanks, Todd, I'm just off

1245
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: the top of my head.

1246
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 5: I just threw out a veteran a way to kind

1247
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 5: of do it.

1248
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, let's go to Kobe in Louisiana. What's up, Kobe, Kobe?

1249
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: Kobe Kobe, And are you have you muted yourself? No, okay,

1250
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: call back goodbye Kobe Melvin, but not the Melvin. It's

1251
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: different Melvin in Indiana.

1252
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 13: Town.

1253
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: Yes, different.

1254
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 13: Alrighty. So just one quick thing there. I really don't

1255
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 13: see us, you know, winning the Super Bowl next year.

1256
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 13: To the draft, I think we need to pick a position,

1257
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 13: an important position, and start there. And I just say,

1258
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 13: Marvin Harrison Juniors. I can't miss how we get that right.

1259
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 13: It helps out the other guys on the elephant. I

1260
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 13: know the line these work quarterback plays needs to be better.

1261
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 13: I get all of it. But maybe Appendix is there

1262
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 13: in the second round, or a Joe Milton is there

1263
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 13: in the third or fourth round, and we can get

1264
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 13: somebody like that there's more of a project and give

1265
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 13: them a whipping like Marvin Harrison Junior to work with,

1266
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 13: as well as Pop Douglas, as well as me be

1267
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 13: signing a few other guys from the free agencies. We

1268
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 13: need a lot of pieces. I just think we need

1269
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 13: to pick something and get the best player at that position.

1270
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 13: And to me, Marvin Harrison is the best player in

1271
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 13: the draft regardless.

1272
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: A lot of people agree with you.

1273
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks, I like that point because I mean whenever

1274
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 10: people are talking about the quarterbacks available, no one has

1275
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 10: a consensus.

1276
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 11: Everyone argues with each other.

1277
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 10: I'm not sold on an acc quarterback certainly, And I

1278
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 10: don't know if Marvin Harrison is the under is the

1279
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 10: decided best player, generational talent. And we're talking about building

1280
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 10: this team through the draft, bringing a guy like Harrison

1281
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 10: address the offensive line, and then bring in a bridge

1282
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 10: guy like we're talking about Jacoby Brissett, Kyler Murray, Baker

1283
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 10: like whoever it is, and just get us into a

1284
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 10: place where whatever the product is on the offense is

1285
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 10: at least respectable and just go from there.

1286
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: And I sounds good to me. The only thing about

1287
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: is some of the names you name, like Kyler Murray,

1288
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna like forty for sure.

1289
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 11: For sure?

1290
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: Are you willing to him?

1291
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 3: No, like you know I would.

1292
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 11: I'm not sold on it. I don't think he's gonna

1293
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 11: take us to the Promised Land.

1294
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 10: But I think it's better than taking a chance with this,

1295
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 10: like this gift of a draft, right and you're taking

1296
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 10: a chance on quarterbacks.

1297
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,479
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is the poster child for this thing where

1298
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: you get the great quarter uh wide receiver and he's

1299
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: just kind of wasted. But if Aaron Rodgers is, you know,

1300
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: near to form, Garret Wilson's going to get his numbers

1301
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: this year.

1302
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: He's going to get his numbers. But you're gonna win games. Yes,

1303
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 4: And this is the no I'm talking about before this

1304
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 4: like it was a great draft pick. Yeah, they but

1305
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 4: they had a quarterback and then they decided to draft

1306
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: the wide receiver after they had the quarterback to give

1307
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 4: the quarterback a weapon.

1308
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: But it worked.

1309
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 4: But that's a great play.

1310
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that if Rogers comes back, now

1311
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about the wide receiver position.

1312
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 4: But you just said you don't think that the Patriots

1313
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 4: would pay forty million dollars for that quarterback. No, I'm

1314
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 4: just saying, so then you don't have that option.

1315
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Everybody says you can't draft a great

1316
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: quarterback before you have the receiver. I I I'm with Alex.

1317
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: If you think this guy generation the other way them

1318
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: take them.

1319
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 10: Even if you can't do anything, you have a really

1320
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 10: talented player to leverage into.

1321
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: Right, Marvin Harrison isn't going to be in next year's draft.

1322
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 4: He's in this draft, probably will be I'm just telling

1323
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: you he probably will.

1324
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: Will we be picking third? I hope not.

1325
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 4: You probably will be sitting for another season like this.

1326
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you're probably going to be in the top ten.

1327
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 4: And I don't know when was the last time there

1328
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: wasn't a receiver that was that good that came out

1329
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: like not one for sure?

1330
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: Like me? Well, I don't know. I mean the way

1331
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: they're talking about Harrison, I.

1332
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 4: Know how they're talking about him.

1333
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm just asking there's another guy that Paul doesn't washing,

1334
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Paul washing, Marvin Harrison Jr.

1335
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: I think I think he's tremendous. Is he better than Justinjefferson?

1336
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: The way they're talking about him again.

1337
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: I know how they're talking about is he better than him?

1338
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I'm just saying, is he better

1339
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 4: than Jamar Chase?

1340
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: Out of the draft? You know, he's ranked higher than Chase.

1341
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 4: I know what, Like Trevor Lawrence was considered that too,

1342
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: he hasn't been that That's true, Okay. I understand what

1343
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: people are saying about him, and I love him. I

1344
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 4: think he's a great wide receiver prospect. And Alex's plan

1345
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: makes all the sense in the world. Doesn't matter if

1346
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 4: you're not going to pay forty million, as you said,

1347
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: they won't for a quarterback, and that's not going to

1348
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: help you do anything if you're just going to try

1349
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: Jacoby brissetto.

1350
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: But if you've writ Justin Fields over here.

1351
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 4: You probably not. The Bears aren't interested in it. They've

1352
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 4: had him for three years. They have that option, they could,

1353
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: They could keep Fields and take Marvin Harrison.

1354
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: I know a But if in the event that they don't,

1355
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: that's that's a path.

1356
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: A path to what winning It's a path to being

1357
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 4: the Jets.

1358
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: It's no, it's a path to a productive offense.

1359
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 4: No, it's not not unless you have a quarterback.

1360
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: So you don't like Justin Fields. You think he stinks.

1361
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: Justin Fields isn't on the Patriots.

1362
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: Fred I said, if you can get him.

1363
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 4: So what are you giving up for that?

1364
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: At whatever second round pick and Matt you know, whatever

1365
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: you want to give them. But that's I I just

1366
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 1: assume getting him as a bridge. If you're talking about

1367
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback a third round pick, I'd just as

1368
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: soon take a chance on Justin Fields and bringing in

1369
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray.

1370
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 4: I have no problem taking a shot with Justin Fields.

1371
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 4: But I don't think that that's getting you where you

1372
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: want to go. I like Justin I think it might. Okay,

1373
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: so the Bears are just stupid. They don't see this

1374
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 4: on this opportunity that's staring them right in the face.

1375
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: They just keep the quarterback you have in draft Arvin Harrison,

1376
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 4: and you were suddenly going to be a potent office.

1377
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: If the Bears were in the middle of the draft,

1378
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: let's say they were like eight to nine last year,

1379
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: they'd be sticking with Justin Fields. The thing is, they

1380
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: have this opportunity now to get because they have the

1381
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: high draft pick from the trade, to get the best

1382
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: of the best. Yeah, it doesn't matter how they got

1383
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the pick. They have this pick staring in their face.

1384
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: And so now they have to make a decision. Do

1385
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: we stick with Justin Field's or do we go after

1386
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: the guy that we think is the best.

1387
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: But you think it's a no brainer, I don't think

1388
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 4: right there, if they did, no, why would the Bears not?

1389
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't And people in Chicago don't think it's.

1390
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 4: The Patriots have the same option. They can draft a

1391
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: quarterback or they could go to Justin I just.

1392
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: Told you, I don't think it's a no brainer. People

1393
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: in Chicago are debating this.

1394
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I definitely think it's a debate. I totally agree.

1395
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: So now we can get if they decide to go for,

1396
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, the other quarterback, we might be able to

1397
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,919
Speaker 1: get Justin Fields, the guy that.

1398
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: I just don't understand why that is so exciting to people.

1399
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 4: I like Justin Fields.

1400
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: But it's all a lot better than what we got.

1401
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 12: Now.

1402
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 4: Is it better than Drake May? Is it better than

1403
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams?

1404
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. We're not going to get them.

1405
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: Why not? You're picking third? You have the source.

1406
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: Because the teams above us want them, they like them too.

1407
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: Then winner's the debate? I don't. You're just talking in

1408
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 4: a huge circle. If it's if it's a debate, it's

1409
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: a debate. If it's not, you you can get where

1410
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: you want to go.

1411
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: My point about the debate is that it's not like

1412
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: they think Justin Field stinks. There's a lot of people

1413
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago that thinks he has a future that he's

1414
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: been getting.

1415
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: I am intrigued by the Justin Fields thing, just because

1416
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: I like that better than any alternative than anybody's. Now,

1417
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 4: if you're telling me just pick one, at three.

1418
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: I like that.

1419
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: The best someone that they say is if it's Jayden

1420
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: Daniels and they just Gerard Meyo says, I like this

1421
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 4: Daniels kid. I want Daniels. That would get me the

1422
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 4: most excited. But Plan B would be this Justin Fields

1423
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: thing for me for me personally, right, But by no

1424
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 4: means my saying, well, you get Justin Fields and Marvin

1425
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 4: Harrison's your offense. I don't see it that way. I

1426
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: think I think DJ Moore is a really good player.

1427
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: But here's the thing about and have an off Here's

1428
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: the thing about Justin It's not like you're stuck with him,

1429
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: Like if he doesn't pan out, you're still in the

1430
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: quarterback market, right.

1431
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: But you've lost an opportunity.

1432
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: But you've but you've also got Marvin Harrison.

1433
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 4: I know, but you've lost an opportunity to do anything about.

1434
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 4: Do you think the Jets are looking at it right

1435
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 4: now saying but we have Garrett Wilson. No, they're suicidal

1436
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 4: because they haven't had an ability to make that pan out.

1437
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 1: They're also suicidal because they are quarterbacks stunk, right, you know.

1438
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 4: And this is again, this is the scenario that I'm

1439
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: trying to unfold.

1440
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I know, but like I, I don't think Fields is as

1441
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: bad as Zach Wilson.

1442
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: No, he's not as bad as Zach Wilson. You know

1443
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 4: I liked I like Fields, but I'm certainly not convinced

1444
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 4: he's the answer, are you? No? No, I like Fields

1445
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 4: probably more than anybody in this room.

1446
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Get It would give me hope.

1447
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 4: I would give me hope only because it would be

1448
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 4: something to improve me. Got It would give me hope

1449
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: because I don't have to watch that anymore.

1450
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 1: We we got a generational receiver, and we got a

1451
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: quarterback who might.

1452
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: Be good generational receivers. I never played it down.

1453
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: I hope, But that's what they're saying.

1454
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 4: I'm just bloodlin, you know, I know.

1455
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 5: And that's like you're in You're getting to like the

1456
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 5: heart of like the football debate right now, which is

1457
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 5: like nothing better than to roll Marvin Harrison out on

1458
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 5: the field as the draft pick, and that gets the

1459
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: fan base excited and fantasy football, and you know, there.

1460
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 4: Are a million examples of these guys that come in

1461
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: and they're great, and like Calvin Johnson was as good

1462
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 4: as anybody I've ever seen. Like for what what do

1463
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 4: you get out of it like it's just a hard

1464
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: position to control a game from when you don't have

1465
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: an answer at that quarterback spot. And I just look

1466
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: at it, like, do you honestly think like? I love

1467
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison. I've seen him play at Ohio State for

1468
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 4: the last two years, just like everybody else has. I

1469
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: don't break down the film. I don't see him run, run,

1470
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 4: leak or stick. Okay, but I love the player. He

1471
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 4: looks to me like he can get deep. He can,

1472
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: He's a precise route runner. It looks to me like

1473
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: the total package. What do you think the chances are

1474
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: that he's better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase or

1475
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 4: a lot of these other you know, Tyreek Hill, these

1476
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 4: elite receivers that are in the league. I think the

1477
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: best case that you have is that he's comparable to

1478
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 4: those guys.

1479
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: And if Justin Jefferson was and you knew, you know,

1480
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: if you knew now what you if you knew then

1481
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: what you know now about Justin Jefferson and he was

1482
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: that three, wouldn't he be worth taking?

1483
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: What do I have for quarterback?

1484
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: Same scenario because if I was the if I was

1485
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: the vituation that you are right.

1486
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 4: If I were the Vikings next year and I do

1487
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 4: not retain Kirk Cousins, no, that wouldn't be my pick.

1488
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1489
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 4: Well if I if I was able to resign Cousins

1490
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: and I have Justin Jefferson on the board at number three,

1491
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: sign me up. So if the Patriots want to do that,

1492
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 4: But you say that they wouldn't, and I don't think

1493
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: you're wrong. By the way, this isn't one of my

1494
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 4: trying to set front up into a trap things that

1495
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: I like to do. I think you're right. I don't

1496
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: think they would give forty million dollars to one of

1497
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: these these guys, right, But that's what they cost. If

1498
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: Alex's plan is to come to fruition, right, they have

1499
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 4: to pay for it. Like even Baker Mayfield is going

1500
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 4: to make some decent money.

1501
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: Because Baker Mayfield doesn't want to be a bridge quarterback.

1502
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I wish we would just spend the money.

1503
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 10: It feels like the most efficient way to target like

1504
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 10: those three major needs you have. I don't know, especially

1505
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 10: with how deep the guards are that every not that

1506
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 10: I know.

1507
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: And I really really like Marvin Harrison before this gets like,

1508
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: I just don't want them without a quarterback.

1509
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: About our discussion, right, imagine what it's happening right now

1510
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: down in the Patriots personnel and scouting, and someone's got

1511
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: to decide.

1512
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 4: I'd like to think there's someone that actually knows talent

1513
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 4: and evaluates these things, not like Paul who kind of

1514
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 4: likes Jayden Daniels but is worried about his passing but

1515
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 4: really likes straight I'd like to think someone that's actually

1516
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 4: a professional at this. But even there's a little bit

1517
01:05:59,120 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: more money idea.

1518
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not talking about guys in football sets,

1519
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: but the Jeremiahs. And there's no consensus there about Drake

1520
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: may or Jayden and Daniel.

1521
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 4: I'll tell you the consensus. It's Williams May that's the consensus.

1522
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 4: The consensus.

1523
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 5: But the reality is that one or two of these

1524
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 5: guys might work out and be a star.

1525
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 4: Like one or two absolutely that might absolutely, just like

1526
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 4: there's gonna be five wide receivers taken and one or

1527
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: two of them are going to be really good. I

1528
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: like neighbors. I don't want to like me.

1529
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to I like.

1530
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 4: I always pronounced that I finally got it, But you know,

1531
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: neighbors It's like, I nothing against Marvin Harrison, but like

1532
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm super good too. I think all three they were

1533
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: gonna be really good receivers taken they were going It

1534
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 4: just happens every year. There's a lot of good receivers,

1535
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 4: but you're not going to get a chance to take

1536
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 4: the you know, going down the list to get you

1537
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 4: can get a tackle, you can get a wide receiver.

1538
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: You're not like the whole Michael Pennix in the second

1539
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: round thing doesn't excite me far.

1540
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: No, And I'll go back to what I said at

1541
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: the top of the show. If they like Jayden Daniels them,

1542
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: they have to take that.

1543
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1544
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 4: If Arthur is right, yeah, you got to take them.

1545
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 4: They have to take And then you could be wishy

1546
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 4: and not washy.

1547
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: Tony's in Canada. What's up, Tony?

1548
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 4: I really did like that line that.

1549
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 5: I wish for him.

1550
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 1: Tony, Hi, guys.

1551
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 22: Yeah, it's certainly an interesting conversation about receivers. I called

1552
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 22: him about actually about the coaching staff. But wouldn't it

1553
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 22: be something if we drafted Harrison? And also Jerry Rice's

1554
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 22: kid is in so can you imagine our receiving room

1555
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 22: with names like Harrison and Rice, And there's been a

1556
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 22: lot of news lately on the media about how the

1557
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 22: Patriots are having trouble building up there, like finding an

1558
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 22: oc offensive coordinator, because I've been hearing that it's new

1559
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 22: Enland's not really an attractive place to come to. It's

1560
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 22: a challenge for someone maybe to take that position and

1561
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 22: finding someone to run mcvay's offense or something like that.

1562
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 22: But something that struck me as being kind of odd

1563
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 22: as far as I know, and correct me if I'm mistaken,

1564
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 22: there's no limit as far as like a cap spending

1565
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 22: for your coaching staff and if Craft really wants to

1566
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 22: fix things around. And it's easy for me to say,

1567
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 22: if I was Craft, I'm not spending my own money.

1568
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 22: But if there's no limit in terms of how much

1569
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 22: you can spend to build a staff, even if it

1570
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 22: wasn't that attractive position, why couldn't you just basically offer

1571
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 22: something over and above, like, you know, double whatever.

1572
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: You could what they did McDaniels to keep its.

1573
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 22: Really not that big of a deal. I don't know,

1574
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 22: that's my idea, And I'll listen, guys.

1575
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks Ton. I hope they do that with offensive

1576
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: line coach. You know, I'll get the best one. You

1577
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: think Clem's going, I don't know where is he? Where

1578
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: is I think he's think he's staying. I think I

1579
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: think the guys that are under contractor staying.

1580
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, just real quick.

1581
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 5: Diana Rassini reported that Bill did was considered for Washington.

1582
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 5: They spoke, but he had some supporters, but that they went.

1583
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 4: With I highly question that report. High. Why do you

1584
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 4: question it because it runs extremely counter to something somebody

1585
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 4: told me.

1586
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's something unless unless somebody is Josh Harris,

1587
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: someone who spoke directly to Josh Harris.

1588
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 7: Really, yes, unless there was like a travels in circles,

1589
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 7: he would never realizewhere some.

1590
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: Of these straw men.

1591
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 4: Man. Just because just because you're not allowed to actually

1592
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 4: report on things when you work for the team doesn't

1593
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: mean that you don't try to still beat in the bushes.

1594
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 4: No stuff. Anyway, there is always a possibility that when

1595
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson left Washington at the Altar early in the week,

1596
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: there was a my opinion, if that's true, If that,

1597
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 4: and let's face it, few national reporters have had more

1598
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 4: misinformation out there than that particular one. If that's true,

1599
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 4: my guess would be that Bill's camp reached out to

1600
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 4: Washington after the news of the Ben Johnson thing. And

1601
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 4: that's the talk.

1602
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

1603
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, they started it. I like that.

1604
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 4: I just I don't from what I was told, I

1605
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 4: don't think there was a lot of interest in a

1606
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,679
Speaker 4: seventy two year old coach. They want to start over

1607
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 4: in Washington. Now, I don't think dan Quinn is all

1608
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 4: that young either, So about the hat backwards? How old

1609
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: is dan Quinn? You know? So maybe they did. Maybe

1610
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 4: they had a change of course when Ben Johnson stiffed him.

1611
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 5: See so Ben Johnson.

1612
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 4: Right right, I mean it was like he was that

1613
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 4: like someone's like dance recital. It was only fifty three. Yeah,

1614
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 4: that's that's really Maybe he was out of dance recital

1615
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 4: and didn't properly acknowledge someone's niece.

1616
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: Uh, Trent, is that right, Trented?

1617
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 15: Yes?

1618
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: Okay, where's Holston?

1619
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 12: Uh?

1620
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 23: It's right next to the Cambridge, It's right next to

1621
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 23: the our box center.

1622
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I never heard of Holston.

1623
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 23: Yeah, but first time caller, a longtime listener. You guys

1624
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 23: are great. I think I'm three guys. What I think

1625
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 23: is a curve ball. But my question is, since the

1626
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 23: UFL is coming up starts in March as in June.

1627
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,839
Speaker 23: I know Patriots, I don't know Drag have the same mindset.

1628
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 23: But Patriots are good at finding talent that maybe other

1629
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 23: teams look past. And I know the UFL will be

1630
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 23: full of players that couldn't make an NFL team or

1631
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 23: undrafted players that just maybe didn't.

1632
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 19: Have what it took.

1633
01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 23: Do you think it'll be a viable source?

1634
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: So I think you're going to see guys come out

1635
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: of that. You know, not a lot, but you know.

1636
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 4: You'll get guys. You won't get any two or three

1637
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 4: a year, you won't get any impact players, but you'll

1638
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 4: get some guys that end up being the fifty third

1639
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 4: man on a roster and playing special teams in the

1640
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 4: back up.

1641
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Trent, And when you say you

1642
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: know the Patriots are good at finding guys that you

1643
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: know they used to be like, no matter what, no

1644
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: matter if the Patriots are fill in the blank, you

1645
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: have to start over. Now. We don't know what the

1646
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: Patriots are good.

1647
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 4: Are they any different at it than everybody else?

1648
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: But they did have success, you know a lot of

1649
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: success undrafted guys and things like that, but right everybody

1650
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: else right now, they're starting over with all of that.

1651
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 5: To me, that's so like down the bottom of the

1652
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 5: wrong like trenches they got.

1653
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 4: They need talent.

1654
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 5: They need guys who move the needle and like you know,

1655
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 5: finding that needle in a haystack, who can come in

1656
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 5: and be like a solid.

1657
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: You can get a Jeremiah Farms. Yeah, I know you're

1658
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 4: not going to get Christian Barmore out of the UFL.

1659
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: Like I know I will not be watching.

1660
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 4: Oh I probably will because I'm a degenerate. But you

1661
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: know that's just the way it is.

1662
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 5: What about can I just throw out Calvin Ridley's name,

1663
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 5: because like we haven't really talked about free agency much

1664
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: at all, and like I.

1665
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 4: Just I would.

1666
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 5: He's a really good player that you know is gonna

1667
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: hit free agency.

1668
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 4: I mean, they've got money to spend.

1669
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 5: It's like, how don't just spread it all around, Like

1670
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 5: get a guy like Calvin Ridley instead of Kendrick Bourne

1671
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 5: Punk plug him into.

1672
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 4: That, do you think? But do you think Calvin Ridley

1673
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: would be interested in signing with Patrios?

1674
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 9: No?

1675
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 5: Maybe interested some money.

1676
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 4: We got the money, but the money is probably going

1677
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 4: to be to get Daniels pretty.

1678
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 5: Ch I try.

1679
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: No.

1680
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 5: I mean, it's you know, it's a fair point, but

1681
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying, you know that that's the kind of guy

1682
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 5: I would probably you don't have.

1683
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 4: And Daniels, why not not yet because the draft isn't

1684
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: until May.

1685
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 5: Hey, yeah, don't worry. We got we got you. We're

1686
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 5: gonna it's not just gonna be gonna be.

1687
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't know.

1688
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 5: I just don't mean it's we jump right into the draft,

1689
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 5: and there's so you know, and there's just so many

1690
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 5: things that could happen in free agency and guys like

1691
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 5: that that I feel like, you know, of course, he

1692
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 5: might say, look, I'm gonna go somewhere with a quarterback

1693
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 5: who's established and.

1694
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe Kansas City. Yeah, sure, I mean,

1695
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:04,879
Speaker 4: you know, possible.

1696
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 5: But at the same time that those are the kind

1697
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 5: of moves that they have to be trying to make,

1698
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 5: like those are the stuff that's going to move the needle.

1699
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 5: And then you know that, I mean, you can't sign

1700
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 5: a bunch of middle class guys again, like you need

1701
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 5: some talent. You need people that are gonna get fans

1702
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 5: excited here. And what about I thought about Pittman. Yeah,

1703
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 5: I mean I'm not against him either.

1704
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I look Ridley better.

1705
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: I like you.

1706
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 4: You know, Higgins is at the top, but like Ridley,

1707
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 4: I think I.

1708
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 5: Did some digging, but I had him on my short list.

1709
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 4: I just Pittman's numbers were better than I thought they were,

1710
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 4: so I think maybe he's gonna end up being more

1711
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 4: expensive than I thought.

1712
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 5: Curtis Samuel's the other one I kind of liked.

1713
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like him, but that I mean, that's the

1714
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 4: kind of guys that I think level but.

1715
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: Been talked about like a couple of years ago coming here,

1716
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, Patriots interested in him.

1717
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I you know, there's just a lot of.

1718
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: Things that they can do, Like, you know, where's the food, Matt,

1719
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, would you guys go to a new

1720
01:14:59,200 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: place today or something?

1721
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 10: Uh?

1722
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got you gotta stay stay in the regulars.

1723
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: Andre's in Tennessee. Andre. He couldn't hang on job.

1724
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: I've heard good things about this place. All right, Well,

1725
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 4: we'll see Paul. Clearly I already screwed up the orders.

1726
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's see a lot of emails coming

1727
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: in web radio take Yeah, I think that's going to

1728
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: be Hi, Jack writes in I'm curious as to what

1729
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,719
Speaker 1: Paul's ideal first pick for us would be. Getting Caleb

1730
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: Williams seems unrealistic. I wish you washed what best case

1731
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: scenario if the cards fell into place. Sometimes it feels

1732
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: like he doesn't want anyone.

1733
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 4: No, I like Williams in May, I would take you

1734
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 4: the one of those, and I would take Daniels. I

1735
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 4: could be definitely. Arthur did a good job of like

1736
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 4: sort of selling me on on on Daniels. I never

1737
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 4: im like, I personally think he needs work as a passer,

1738
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 4: but I didn't disagree with anything you said about him

1739
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 4: as a runner. And I think if you come into

1740
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 4: the league with an elite skill set, you can kind

1741
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: of learn the rest like I. I. Yeah, that's why

1742
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm wishy washy, like I could be talked into it.

1743
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 5: It just bummed me.

1744
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 4: But I like all three of them. I do.

1745
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I was a better runner coming out

1746
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: of college. Michael Vicker, Mike Vick, nobody was Michael Vick

1747
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: Nate in Northeastern Pennsylvania. I'm pretty sure the news drop

1748
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: between shows, so I'm not positive you guys discussed what

1749
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: are everyone's feelings on the booty arrest.

1750
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about right, but I don't think we

1751
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 4: did talk about it. We didn't talk. We didn't Good job.

1752
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 11: I think it broke right after the show Thursday.

1753
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 4: Good job steering the ship.

1754
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 5: Like what Pauls was talking about, Like his logging was

1755
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 5: like Kaishan Bohan boy oh one in seven, Yeah, you

1756
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 5: gotta get rid of it.

1757
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: I mean, was that all nil money that he was using.

1758
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 4: God, I don't know what mode he was using, but

1759
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 4: he was betting on himself.

1760
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 10: The thing is he was making fake names like the

1761
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 10: dis like the names would be fake, but then the

1762
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 10: username would be like just keep it.

1763
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: So he says it's like John Smith, but but it

1764
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 5: says at Kashan Butte.

1765
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: Over almost nine thousand bets he placed, including some on

1766
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 4: his own team. I agree. I agree with Mike, He's go,

1767
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 4: you gotta go. I'm kind of surprised. I mean, I

1768
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 4: guess they're in the off season.

1769
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 5: They're going to just let it kind of linger for

1770
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 5: a little bit before they have to make a decision.

1771
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 4: But I think you're going to see that happening more. Yeah,

1772
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 4: what do you mean, just getting more more rope?

1773
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 3: They stuck by Jack.

1774
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: Uh Mike writes in he says trade down is a must.

1775
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: The draft is loaded and they only have seven picks.

1776
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: They need talent and players.

1777
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 4: The draft is not loaded. I think there's strong positions. Yeah,

1778
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 4: and what so, just as a point of comparison, and

1779
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 4: Mike and I talked about this a little lot. Fair

1780
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 4: people are talking about this draft that there's only about

1781
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 4: four or five rounds of players. There is so much

1782
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 4: fewer underclassmen that because of the nil because of COVID,

1783
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 4: you know, the last remnants of COVID, that there's a

1784
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 4: lot of guys. I think they only had like thirty

1785
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 4: players declare as underclassmen is usually over one hundred. So

1786
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:29,480
Speaker 4: I think your boy Jim Naggy at the Senior Bowl

1787
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 4: opined that day three picks are going to be undrafted

1788
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 4: free agents of the past. This draft is not loaded.

1789
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

1790
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 4: Now it is strong at the positions that you need. Quarterback, wide, receiver, tackle,

1791
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 4: they're supposed to be all three of those spots are

1792
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: supposed to be deep.

1793
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 1: Yep, Jared and Vermont. I feel like I'm going crazy.

1794
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: I have zero interest in drafting a quarterback in the

1795
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: first round, no matter who you pick, it's doomed on

1796
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: this team. How many crappy teams have to draft the

1797
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: shiny object just for it to blow up a year

1798
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 1: or two later before people learn trade down, trade Jude

1799
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: on stockpile picks so that you can pick up quarterback eventually, hopefully.

1800
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 4: Well, that's my argument that I have with Felger. You know,

1801
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, make a trade with someone who

1802
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: you think is going to be bad. I go, why

1803
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 4: so you can be in the top you know, picking

1804
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 4: in the top three again next year? So you can

1805
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 4: trade it because you won't pick you won't pick the

1806
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 4: talent because you don't believe in talent. Like I just

1807
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 4: don't understand the notion of quarterbacks bust, so don't take one. Well,

1808
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 4: somewhere along the line you have to get it. Teams

1809
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 4: that are good that drafted their quarterbacks. I mean, I'm

1810
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 4: sure that these are the same people that have said

1811
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 4: there's no way ever Kansas City should be moving up

1812
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 4: twenty spots in the first round to take Patrick Mahomes

1813
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 4: or Buffalo should be moving up, you know, from the

1814
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 4: bottom of the first round to the number seven to

1815
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: take Josh Allen. But how do you how do you

1816
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 4: do it if you don't make that kind of a.

1817
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 5: Move, and it's Fred's think it's conviction.

1818
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 4: You know, Cincinnati was right for taking Joe Burrow number

1819
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 4: one overall. Those umber one picks never work until they do. Like,

1820
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 4: I get it. Like there, it's a risk, and quarterback

1821
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 4: is a bigger risk than all the other spots. But

1822
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 4: you can't go into a pick and saying I'm not

1823
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 4: gonna take it because I'm gonna blow it anyway.

1824
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: Hire good coaches, spend money in your evaluations, and trust

1825
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: your and the information that you get.

1826
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 4: And how many of these guys, Like do you think

1827
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield's any good? Fred, Yes, you do, right, yep.

1828
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 4: So he's taken with the number one overall pick. I

1829
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 4: don't think he's as good as you.

1830
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good.

1831
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying you think he's pretty good. Yeah,

1832
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 4: not everybody else. See, you can't take Baker Mayfield. Well, no,

1833
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 4: if you did it right, he'd probably be better for

1834
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 4: you if you if you didn't have four offensive coordinators

1835
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 4: in his first four seasons in Cleveland, maybe he wouldn't

1836
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 4: have been a mess by the time he left the Browns. Yeah,

1837
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 4: you know, Matthew Stafford. Don't tell me Matthew Stafford wasn't

1838
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 4: deserving talent wise or the number one overall pick. He's

1839
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 4: been a really good player for a long time. The

1840
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 4: fact that the Lions couldn't figure it out with him,

1841
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 4: he's on the Lions. He looks pretty good now.

1842
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: Yep. Great Robin san Diego via Connecticut. Watching the games

1843
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: last week, something stood out to me. Many people are

1844
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 1: talking about coaching and discipline, but what about playmakers? Yes,

1845
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 1: the Lions and Ravens have many self inflicted wounds, but

1846
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: I also saw Kelsey and McCaffrey have game changing style plays.

1847
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I bring this up because of the drum beat for

1848
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: building inside out in New England. I don't know which

1849
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: way is best, but it seemed to me that self

1850
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: inflicted wounds aside. The teams with the playmakers are the

1851
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: teams that advanced. I understand that this might be a

1852
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: multi year view of team building, but boy, with the

1853
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: internal hires, inexperienced coaches, and prospects of linemen high in

1854
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: the draft, it seems like some red Sox vibes.

1855
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: Oh that's bad. I think it's both. I think there

1856
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 4: was plenty of playmakers on all four teams last week.

1857
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 4: I mean, Jamison Williams looked like a pretty dynamic playmaker

1858
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 4: to me. Nice touchdown, he touched the ball three times,

1859
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:06,839
Speaker 4: it was in the end zone twice. But Josh Reynolds

1860
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 4: dropped passes and they lost. You know, McCaffrey was great,

1861
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 4: Kelsey was great. Zay Flowers made all kinds of plays

1862
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,559
Speaker 4: and also did some really stupid things. But he, I mean,

1863
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 4: he didn't. He didn't make any plays in that game.

1864
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 4: The bomb that he caught for a touchdown, the scramble drill.

1865
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: He was also one of the reasons they were still

1866
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: in there.

1867
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 4: There was a lot of playmaking done in those games

1868
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 4: by the teams that lost.

1869
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gibbs, I mean, Gibbs was remember last year when

1870
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 5: they picked Gibbs what you know, But same thing.

1871
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, he made a play and any fumble.

1872
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 1: He's a good player.

1873
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 4: He's a really good player. But that's that's my point.

1874
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 4: I think that's what Mike was trying to say.

1875
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 5: But it's just, you know, I think it's that there's

1876
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 5: no one way to do anything, and you know, it's

1877
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 5: it's that that pick got some controversy, but he was

1878
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 5: you know he's developing into a stud to what they need,

1879
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 5: and you know it's it's that's why it's like you

1880
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 5: can throw all these comparisons of everything.

1881
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 4: And that's why I say, just if it's Marvin Harris,

1882
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 4: if Alex's playing comes to fruition, I'd be fine with

1883
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 4: that because if he's a really good like no, if

1884
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 4: he's a really good player, that's got to be your

1885
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 4: only goal. Fred I got to come out of this draft.

1886
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 4: If I pick somebody at three, he needs to be

1887
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 4: a really good player, right, And Mike is right. There's

1888
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 4: a million different ways you can structure your team and

1889
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 4: get the pieces first, last, second, whatever. But if you

1890
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 4: don't hit, you know, like Jamiir Gibbs is a good player.

1891
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: Now I would have taken something else, still would take

1892
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 4: something else, but he hit. So the Lion's not going

1893
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 4: to look at that and say, man, we had that opportunity,

1894
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 4: blew it. Yeah, you know, Jack Campbell, I think a

1895
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: little differently about that first round pick. Yeah, I don't

1896
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 4: think he's a hit.

1897
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 5: And the thing that I can't get away from is just.

1898
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 4: That if you really truly.

1899
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 5: Looked at the board at three of what they should

1900
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 5: take emotions aside, like you know, it's probably Marvin Harrison.

1901
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 5: I mean, he's probably the second best player in this draft.

1902
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 5: And it's hard to you know, no matter how much

1903
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 5: you want to say they need to protect the quarterback

1904
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 5: that you know, it's like he is the best player

1905
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 5: available when they're gonna probably be picking, and you have

1906
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 5: to you have to at least consider that, you know,

1907
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 5: maybe somebody like that gives you a little bit more

1908
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 5: juice to bring a quarterback in or something like that.

1909
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: You know, and I know you're Dorman man, but or

1910
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 5: fans too.

1911
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 4: So it's if that's the rationale, If that was if

1912
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 4: that's what they came away with, I think I would

1913
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 4: be on board with that. If they said, we had

1914
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 4: our choice between Drake May, Jylen Daniels and Marvin Harrison

1915
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,600
Speaker 4: and Joe Walt or whoever else, and we thought significant

1916
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 4: by a significant margin, Marvin Harrison Junior was the best player.

1917
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how anybody argues with that. Throw throw

1918
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 4: the rest out, throw out. You know what do you need?

1919
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 5: And know you know Calvin in or you know with

1920
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson, you know, like all the all the things

1921
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 5: of the past that have not worked out and you know.

1922
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 4: It's again, I would say, put it. I would say

1923
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 4: my same argument against those that I just used for

1924
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 4: the quarterback. Just because it didn't work, it doesn't mean

1925
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 4: it's never gonna For.

1926
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Years, the Patriots are drafting linebackers until they got Rob Gronkowski.

1927
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: I mean, but you don't stop doing it because you

1928
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: know Dan Graham wasn't worth a first round pick or

1929
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: Ben Watson wasn't worth a first round pick.

1930
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 4: Well, it's just it's hard.

1931
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 5: It's hard for me even to sit here and be like, well,

1932
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 5: that's not how teams are built. Like you have to

1933
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 5: get a tackle, like you that's the it's one of

1934
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 5: the trenches, and that's you know you have. I got

1935
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 5: to protect the quarterback, and you know it's it's it

1936
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 5: would be easy to get pace all that.

1937
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 4: It's a good case STUF like San Francisco with all

1938
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 4: those draft picks.

1939
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: Tyler in New York City, Hello Alex and others.

1940
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 4: We're now in the rest. I want the Patriots now.

1941
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 4: You feel like I want to pay coach the.

1942
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 1: Draft Marvin Harrison. Will it be smarter move getting a quarterback? Maybe?

1943
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: But I've watched decades of Patriots football with a really

1944
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback. But I've watched almost no Patriots football starring

1945
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: a true number one receiver Randy Mows. But no, I

1946
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,759
Speaker 1: get it. Marvin Harrison Junior will be fun to watch.

1947
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: He's going to do things in a Patriots uniform that

1948
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: we haven't seen before. Sure, those things might happen on

1949
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: a six and eleven team as where we're building, but

1950
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Is he going to be fine

1951
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: with it? I view the NFL and the Patriots as

1952
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 1: a form of entertainment. When Brady was on the team,

1953
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: my entertainment was maximized by competing for Super Bowls every year.

1954
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Without that aspect of this entertainment being available to Patriots

1955
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: fans these days, I have to look elsewhere, and where

1956
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 1: better to look than the best wide receiver prospect of

1957
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 1: the last several drafts. Patriots football has not been fun

1958
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 1: to watch for several years. I think Marvin Harrison Junior

1959
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: can make it fun. I'm open.

1960
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 4: I'm open. That's an interesting argument, though it really is. Yeah,

1961
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: like we could be six and eleven, but at least

1962
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 4: will be entertaining.

1963
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: Let's see Allison in Chicago trade a second round pick

1964
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: for fields draft Harrison or another star receiver in Draft

1965
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 1: O line fields is likely better than the quarterbacks in

1966
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: this draft other than Caleb Williams. Also, as to being

1967
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: the world's original podcast, they will say you were my

1968
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: first podcast. They found you in twenty ten and have

1969
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 1: been listening ever since, other than a few episodes after

1970
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler was benched the Super Bowl because I was

1971
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: so angry with the Patriots and I needed a break.

1972
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for keeping us engaged all year long

1973
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: and the Patriots and other topics. You're welcome, Alison. Yeah,

1974
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: so there you go.

1975
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 4: This is gonna be I usually love the off season shows.

1976
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 4: He's not gonna speak grind. It's gonna be a grind

1977
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 4: between Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jalen Daniels, Marvin Harrison Junior.

1978
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 4: Probably not.

1979
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 5: Do you feel like Marvin Harrison Senior was kind of

1980
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 5: soft though?

1981
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 4: He like, oh god, no, he was great. Oh really yeah,

1982
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 4: it was great, Like I don't know, I guess I'm

1983
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 4: just thinking of the games here.

1984
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 5: Well, he's like they just destroyed him and he.

1985
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 1: Was doing then what a lot of the smaller quarterbacks

1986
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: do now is they get down, they don't take the hit.

1987
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 1: And people said oh, you know, he doesn't go for

1988
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 1: the extra yards, you know when contact comes. But he

1989
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: was smart, like you know, it's.

1990
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 5: Like Eugene Wilson like spearing him with like like a

1991
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 5: missile like.

1992
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 4: That was like, I know exactly, I know exactly the

1993
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 4: player you're talking about.

1994
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: He was very good. And what am I incorrectly? He

1995
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: was fast, but he wasn't like a blazer. He was

1996
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: just a really good route runner. Smart.

1997
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember thinking of him as like

1998
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: a tyree kill no, right, but he was great.

1999
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 5: Kind of the same guys, right, I mean, just similar

2000
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 5: in the mold smart and.

2001
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 1: You know they were in tune with Peyton Manning and

2002
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: you know.

2003
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure, but I do wonder like how much Manning

2004
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 4: made them because then they lost them. And he was

2005
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 4: the same with Pete the Waider and Foster, right, Pete

2006
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 4: the Waiter, Khan that Peter in case you went one room,

2007
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 4: Pete the Wader.

2008
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Christian writes in I know you guys said, that's good.

2009
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: What's that Pete the Wader?

2010
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 4: That was that was your line?

2011
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: I know the credit. I know you guys said that

2012
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: you are wishy washy with some quarterbacks. I've been watching

2013
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: the full games and breaking down film with some of

2014
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: my college teammates when we played, and I think the

2015
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: quarterback order goes like this.

2016
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 4: What do you think he has number one Caleb Williams.

2017
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: Nope, number one Daniels. He says he's a top three talent.

2018
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: Number two was Caleb top three talent, and number three

2019
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: is May a five to ten pick talent. Wow.

2020
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 4: All right, So he's down on Marv not.

2021
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: Saying my opinion is right. But if I would you guys,

2022
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: I would watch the full games of guys and think

2023
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: you might see that Drake May is being overhyped. Watching

2024
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: individual plays doesn't necessarily show what actually happened in the game.

2025
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: He's right there, you.

2026
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 5: See from what I've watched of May, though, I have

2027
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 5: a little bit of intrigue, like what we talked about

2028
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 5: with Marvin Harrison, that he's kind of interesting and fun

2029
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 5: to watch, you know, and it's not always great, but

2030
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm, you know, watching him throw left handed passes,

2031
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 5: and you know he's athletic, he's got a big arm,

2032
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 5: so I mean I see some kind of entertainment factor

2033
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 5: from him.

2034
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to me, it's not about necessarily breaking down

2035
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 4: the games like it's a skill set and what they

2036
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: bring and how they play. Like if you go to

2037
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 4: North Carolina too years ago and watch Drake May it

2038
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 4: looks a lot different than it did last year. Yeah,

2039
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 4: a lot different. He was much better two years ago.

2040
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan in the world,

2041
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: rites in says, draft a quarterback. If we and he sucks,

2042
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: take a quarterback withhe our high first pick the next year.

2043
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: Repeat until you have a franchise quarterback.

2044
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,160
Speaker 4: This is my That's where I though where I land. Like,

2045
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 4: if you miss, just take one the next year, do

2046
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 4: it again, keep rolling it.

2047
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Let's see Mike and Charlotte. If the Patriots draft a

2048
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: quarterback at three, they need to spend the next two

2049
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: picks on o line. You can have all the weapons

2050
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: in the world, but if the quarterback is on his back,

2051
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 1: maybe you can find some serviceable receivers and free agency

2052
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,160
Speaker 1: to get by for this year and focus on wide

2053
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 1: receiver in next year's draft.

2054
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't need to overdo it at tackle,

2055
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 5: like I mean, I would like to get a couple,

2056
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 5: but I mean, to me, what kind of makes the

2057
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 5: most sense would be to take the quarterback to take

2058
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 5: the receiver to take the next best tackle, because there'll

2059
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 5: be another good tackle left in the second round, and

2060
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 5: then in the third round.

2061
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 4: Hit one of these receivers. You know, just that like

2062
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 4: meet to me, late second round, third round. That's where

2063
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 4: you do.

2064
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,680
Speaker 5: The same thing with the quarterback every year. Let's just

2065
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 5: continue to take a couple guys. You know, you look

2066
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 5: at Green Bay, you look at what they've done in Detroit,

2067
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 5: like these teams that have just continued to throw mid

2068
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 5: round selections at wide receiver, at tight end, at running back,

2069
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 5: the weapons spots without overinvesting too much of the high

2070
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,800
Speaker 5: end draft capital, and and you'll get a bunch of them,

2071
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 5: you know, And then I don't know, there's just and

2072
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 5: I don't want this to become like we need we

2073
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 5: want to have a bunch of twos and threes. But

2074
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 5: like I see appeal to not being a team with

2075
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,600
Speaker 5: we have one superstar stud receiver on the outside. And

2076
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 5: then it's kind of meh, you know, like I personally,

2077
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 5: just if you're constructing middle, well you just I'd like

2078
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 5: to have where you got a bunch of different kinds

2079
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 5: of weapons that everybody's pretty good taking a start.

2080
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 4: But I want but I need the other guys too,

2081
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 4: you know, with with Mike like I would take you know,

2082
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:55,400
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would argue if you ended up

2083
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 4: with like Watson, Reid and uh yeah jobs and wait

2084
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 4: in Wicks like these are all like Day two and

2085
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 4: Day three picks. Ye, Like, I don't think anybody would like, well,

2086
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 4: you know what they really need they need a star. No,

2087
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 4: they're all pretty good players. Yeah, and it works.

2088
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 5: And Watson has the body type that you know.

2089
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 4: I think I think he can be the star he

2090
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 4: ever stays in training camp, you know, this year. But yeah,

2091
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 4: but he was also basically a first round he was

2092
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 4: like the thirty four.

2093
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 1: But you know, whether it's on offensive defense, in some

2094
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: positions you need guys that they're just better than the

2095
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: other guys and the other team. Yeah, you know you

2096
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: need some of those, like everybody can't be better than everyone.

2097
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 4: Do we think of the interior of the offensive line.

2098
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 5: I'm just offense putting it out of my mind right

2099
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 5: now for.

2100
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 4: The page, Like do you think that they'd be all

2101
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 4: right with strange Strange Andrews. So with Mafi and Jake Andrews,

2102
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 4: that that.

2103
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: Core of five, who is my offensive line coach.

2104
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 4: Adrian Klemp, But what do you think of those those

2105
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 4: five guys? So, in other words, if you can get

2106
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,719
Speaker 4: a tackle, if you could get Joe Walt and he hits,

2107
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 4: is your offensive line Okay.

2108
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 1: It's better? Yeah, it could be.

2109
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you'd be fine. It's it's yeah,

2110
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's fine. I think the problems

2111
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: with the offensive line are greatly exacerbated by the lack

2112
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 4: of weapons on offense. I think the offensive line takes

2113
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 4: all the heat. They weren't good. Not saying that they were.

2114
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 4: They weren't good. I don't think we're eating. Yeah, that's

2115
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 4: pizza time. Man's apparently pizza time never arruns.

2116
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: That's pizza time.

2117
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 4: Work not find the delivery driver.

2118
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: Uh well, we got plenty of calls and emails, so

2119
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,959
Speaker 1: it's not like we have nothing to do. Uh Andre's

2120
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Uh you were off the line last time there.

2121
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 5: Now yeah, I'm here.

2122
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,680
Speaker 15: So I have a question. So there's a quarterback that

2123
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 15: no one is talking about that was one of the

2124
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 15: top quarterbacks in the n c A this year. Jordan's

2125
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 15: Travis Yep. How do y'all feel about drafting Marvin Harris

2126
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 15: and their number three and then some some late round pick.

2127
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 15: Go get Jordan Travis, let him heal up and let

2128
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 15: him be our quarterback for next year. And with the

2129
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 15: British quarterback this year.

2130
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: Now, I could be educate me on this guy.

2131
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Florida State. Florida State didn't make the playoffs.

2132
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: Of course.

2133
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 4: I like him. I think he's a little small, but

2134
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 4: he's a good player. I wouldn't be supposed to taking

2135
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 4: the day three pick. I wouldn't.

2136
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 5: I mean, yes, you got to draft the quarterback no

2137
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 5: matter what, whether it's three overall, I mean i'd be

2138
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 5: I'd be down for anybody, down for anybody. I mean

2139
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 5: I don't there's certainly guys I don't like.

2140
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: What was his.

2141
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 5: Injury, had a a cl injury.

2142
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 4: He's small, he's small, Yeah, yeah, he's.

2143
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 24: A good player.

2144
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 15: Murdered wrong.

2145
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

2146
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 4: Do you want him? You could probably get him. I

2147
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 4: don't know that.

2148
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 5: Well, I guess because we're just we're flirting with Jayden

2149
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:11,720
Speaker 5: Daniels and Drake May.

2150
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 4: It's like guys just.

2151
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,560
Speaker 5: That that they have the tank, like they have tangible

2152
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 5: things that are like not going to change.

2153
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 4: You know.

2154
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 5: It's like with Mack you knew he was always gonna

2155
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 5: not have that elite skill set, and it's like, at

2156
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 5: least you got something to work with.

2157
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Swear.

2158
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 4: That's why I.

2159
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 1: Swear that people and not just here in New England,

2160
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: but people are so starved for the next quarterback that

2161
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: we overrate these guys. Yeah.

2162
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,519
Speaker 5: No, that's it's a huge thought of mine. Fred, It's

2163
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 5: I mean, that's and I think it's just like NFL

2164
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 5: teams too. I think that the whole league does that.

2165
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 12: You know.

2166
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: It's like we talked, You get to the point and

2167
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 5: you need a quarterback and this is the guy that's

2168
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 5: sitting there and that's where he's supposed to go and

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01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 5: you feel great about him.

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Speaker 1: Not really, but you got to.

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01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,719
Speaker 4: Guy hit it in one of those years where the guys,

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01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 4: the guys time.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Seana, Vancouver, Hey, Sean, lots of Canadian Hey.

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Speaker 21: You know, Mike, I agree with you about the free

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01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 21: agents that we should talk about that, but I think first,

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01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 21: you know, you got to bring back some of your

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01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 21: own players before you sign others. And the two that

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01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 21: have the top of the Patriots list players I'd want

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01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 21: them to bring back as Ollenue Henry, and then there's

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01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 21: some others that I didn't get them have good money.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 21: And in terms of Calvin Ridley, I think he will

2183
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 21: be the top target because I see Higgins and Pittman

2184
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 21: going back to their respective teams to the Bengals and

2185
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 21: nicolets uh this year. So I think he'll be the

2186
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:38,799
Speaker 21: top free agent prize. And in terms of the drafts

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01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 21: that those any of those three quarterbacks, I think it

2188
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 21: would be fine. It's just if you if you do

2189
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 21: get Daniels, you know, you don't want to try and

2190
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 21: force him to be a pocket passer, because then you're

2191
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 21: trying to fit a square peg in a round hole

2192
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 21: or by versa.

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01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 15: He's with you, not can be that.

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01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 4: I agree with that. You have to let him try

2195
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 4: to play like his style, like they let Lamar play. Yeah,

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01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 4: they don't force you to play from the pocket all

2197
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 4: the time. It's got the limpers.

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01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 21: Yeah, we're gonna have. We're gonna have. We're going to

2199
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 21: struggle as well, So we got to be patient because

2200
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:07,679
Speaker 21: you can.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, thanks, Sean.

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Speaker 4: I know I agree with Sean. I don't think you

2203
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 4: can't just try to say like we're gonna run the

2204
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 4: old Patriots offense with Tom Brady and have him be

2205
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 4: in the pocket all the time.

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01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 10: No, that's should be burned to the ground, regardless, burning violence, fire.

2207
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 4: No literally, I'm not talking burning.

2208
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 1: People with these guys.

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Speaker 3: I like them, but you don't speaking.

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01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 1: You don't have a greyhound as a pet unless you

2211
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 1: have a big backyard. Oh yeah, let him run, Let

2212
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:36,120
Speaker 1: him run.

2213
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 4: Those are weird looking dogs. They're giant, like sleep.

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01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who adopted.

2215
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 4: My sister in law had an adopted greyhound before she

2216
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 4: married my brother. You and I are similar dog guys.

2217
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 4: I do not like that. I don't like dogs. I

2218
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 4: didn't get too close. Dogs bite, dogs bite you. Yeah,

2219
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 4: I've been bitten, a little afraid. My sister got bit

2220
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 4: in the face when she was little.

2221
01:37:58,600 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 3: What's the saying, I.

2222
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,639
Speaker 11: Don't I don't trust a person that doesn't like a dog,

2223
01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 11: but I trust a dog.

2224
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 4: And I don't trust people that treat animals like their humans.

2225
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: I've been punched. I've been punched, But I don't hate

2226
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: all humans.

2227
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can talk to you can talk to humans.

2228
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:14,599
Speaker 4: You're going to see it coming with humans. Here's kind

2229
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 4: of not true.

2230
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta love dogs.

2231
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 5: I like him from afar. I would just agree with

2232
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 5: the point on Hunter Henry. I would definitely resign Hunter Henry.

2233
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 5: There's just nothing out there at tight end that there's

2234
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 5: not a great tight end class. There's just nothing out there.

2235
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't you know.

2236
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 4: I think that he's limited.

2237
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 5: I've always thought he can't really block at a plus level,

2238
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 5: but he can play. He's a tight end that can

2239
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,719
Speaker 5: play in this league. I would sign something. I would

2240
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:37,799
Speaker 5: I would make an effort.

2241
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 3: Was a captain, he's a leader.

2242
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Just let everybody go, Yeah, wait a minute, is your

2243
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: family pressuring you to get a dog?

2244
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 4: Not anymore?

2245
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 5: Fred, I've been parrying for so long that I'm like,

2246
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 5: I'm I'm ahead of the game.

2247
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 4: We get it to a point where like no one's

2248
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 4: mentioned it for like a couple of months.

2249
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,599
Speaker 1: See, that's why he doesn't like dog.

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01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,560
Speaker 10: He doesn't want to have one because wait until the

2251
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 10: kids are on summer vacation and they're bored.

2252
01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 4: That's that's usually when it comes about.

2253
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 5: But I don't know, I just like, I don't need

2254
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,800
Speaker 5: another thing in my life to take care of and

2255
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 5: to like why, I'm honest.

2256
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 10: About it and realistic, because the worst is when someone

2257
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 10: gets a dog and they're just not at all prepared

2258
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 10: to have a dog.

2259
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I you know, they're cute and I'd

2260
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 5: like I'd love to have a puppy, and I'm sure

2261
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 5: I would be home the best friends.

2262
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 4: But right now, I'm just like, I like my life.

2263
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 4: My kids are older. I don't have to change diapers anymore. Right,

2264
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 4: I'm off of the like I got to get up

2265
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 4: and mark the dog.

2266
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

2267
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 4: I don't need that in my life. That is why

2268
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 4: I would never have a dog. And it drives me crazy.

2269
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 4: When I'm out a lot with my brother in law

2270
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 4: and sister in law, they have to go home. I

2271
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 4: always have to leave early. I gotta go the dog,

2272
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:38,520
Speaker 4: the dog, the dog. Fourth of July. The dog, the fireworks.

2273
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 4: The dog is freaking out like it just it's like

2274
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 4: having another baby. It is, and there's a responsibility with

2275
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 4: that that I kind of I agree with that. I

2276
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 4: respect Mike for saying I don't want that response right now,

2277
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,639
Speaker 4: and that's fair. It doesn't make it like a selfish

2278
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 4: You don't not like dog.

2279
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 5: No, no, I mean generally, but I am a little

2280
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 5: bit like Paul in that you know, you don't know

2281
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 5: what they're thinking.

2282
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,640
Speaker 4: To me, it's not like I'm not going to go

2283
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 4: stick my face.

2284
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: Somebody's dogs hanging out with it, like a toy poodle

2285
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: a little, a little Actually there was a ferocious poodle

2286
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: more than right behind him.

2287
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 10: Not poodles, yes, but like a multi pooh or something

2288
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 10: that's multie, like a Maltese.

2289
01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 3: Or like a loss.

2290
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 4: I could say a really bad joke, congratulations.

2291
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's just going to what he was going

2292
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 5: to say when I when I lived in LA, one

2293
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 5: of our friends, you know, everybody has to adopt a dog,

2294
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 5: and one of our friends, Jamie, she she's like, oh,

2295
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 5: I adopted this dog. His name is Stewie, you know.

2296
01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 4: Named after family guy.

2297
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 5: The freaking dog was just like nipping everybody, like you know,

2298
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 5: it was a rescue and so it had trauma and yeah,

2299
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 5: you know, anytime you got too near, it got too loud.

2300
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 4: You know, this little like cross thing of a of

2301
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 4: a what HuaHua.

2302
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 5: You know they all have like like poor chihuahua's like

2303
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:56,960
Speaker 5: they're just getting mated with everything left in Get the

2304
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 5: chia over here, that right, that baby poole something pools

2305
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 5: like anything. Yeah, poor poodles too, those things just like

2306
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 5: they have you know, they get a Golden Retriever and

2307
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 5: poor poodles, Like.

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01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 3: That's what you need to get the best dog in

2309
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 3: the world.

2310
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 4: Golden Well, that's we have one briefly when I was

2311
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 4: a kid.

2312
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:14,759
Speaker 1: And then labs.

2313
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 3: I've never owned.

2314
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 5: What's the difference between a lab and I think they're

2315
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 5: they're so.

2316
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,760
Speaker 1: Longer. Yeah, but I had a black lab.

2317
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, my neighbor had a black black Lab that I

2318
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 3: grew up with.

2319
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: He was great, just loved everybody, just so yeah, it

2320
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: was so good.

2321
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 5: We had a we had a Golden Retriever puppy when

2322
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 5: I was a kid, and it's happened to coincide with

2323
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 5: me and my sisters all got chicken pox at the

2324
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 5: same time.

2325
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 4: So my mom couldn't deal.

2326
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 5: She's like, no, that's it, and just like gave like

2327
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 5: we like bought the dog.

2328
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's like a whole thing.

2329
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 5: It was on Kate cod actually and no, yeah, we

2330
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:47,599
Speaker 5: took bridget.

2331
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: We had a joke with our lab like if a

2332
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, a robber ever came in, here's the silverware.

2333
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 1: That's what we said.

2334
01:41:54,680 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 10: You know, you know, helpfrigerators right over there would lick

2335
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 10: the robber to death.

2336
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 3: You would lick him to death.

2337
01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's nice. I would say, it's more like

2338
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 4: what Mike is saying. I'm not a dog person more

2339
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 4: so than like, oh, Paul hates dogs. I'm not a

2340
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 4: big dog guy. Like when you go to a house

2341
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 4: and then we have a dog and like hello, and

2342
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 4: you let him your hair, and I'm frightened out of

2343
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 4: my mind in that scenario. Would so be the.

2344
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 10: Type of guy that his family was on board. They

2345
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 10: got like a little dog that he was like, I

2346
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 10: don't stupid in it. But then at the end of

2347
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:30,759
Speaker 10: the day he's on the couch.

2348
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 4: That's what everybody says. So that's that's a thousand percent.

2349
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:39,160
Speaker 4: But it's the same thing with the stupid cat. Here's

2350
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 4: the cat's buddy now, right me? Yeah, you know at

2351
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 4: night when we're watching TV, the cat sits on my lap, right,

2352
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,679
Speaker 4: And I would have been the one like I don't

2353
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 4: but I think, oh, but we've we've gotten really lucky.

2354
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 4: We had Beth had a cat when I met her,

2355
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,080
Speaker 4: and now this is our second cat, and they're both

2356
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 4: almost exactly the same. They like little dogs, only they're

2357
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 4: not gonna get to be these huge things that need

2358
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 4: to be like walked and all the work that goes

2359
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 4: through them. They're just companions, all right again at the

2360
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,680
Speaker 4: same time. Then it ends, and I can't deal with

2361
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 4: that emotionally. If I'm a baby. That's a hard thing.

2362
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,320
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2363
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Pulse Foods here for you. Then

2364
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: we'll wrap it up because we're getting to the end.

2365
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 5: But we'll see good stuff after the break though, cock

2366
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Speaker 6: and Dip of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 26: And we're back with another quick Thursday edition of the

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Speaker 26: PU Halftime Show. I am joined by Alex reoccurring guests

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Speaker 26: as always.

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Speaker 3: Gotta get used to me.

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Speaker 26: Wow, guys, there is no trivia today because I did

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Speaker 26: this pretty last minute.

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Speaker 4: So you know what happens.

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Speaker 10: Yeahs came to my five minutes ago. It was like,

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Speaker 10: can you come down and record with me? And I

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01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 10: was like, no, I'm kind of busy, and then he

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Speaker 10: was like please, So here we are.

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Speaker 26: We're like, also running out of PAP trivia, so I'll

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Speaker 26: do a deep dive into that. But anyways, we're gonna

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Speaker 26: start off with a couple start bench cuts like we

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Speaker 26: always do, So Alex Start bench Cut.

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Speaker 3: I haven't done one of these in a minute, Christian.

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Speaker 26: McCaffrey, Isaiah Pacheco, and Jamineer Gibbs. That's the only one

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Speaker 26: for the NFC. I haven't for the n FC title game.

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Speaker 3: Start McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Start McCaffrey bench Pa Checko. I guess Scott Gibbs.

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Speaker 26: It's tough though, Yeah, I'm doing I am starting my

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Speaker 26: my camp. Camp buddy Christian McCaffrey. Good friends with him,

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Speaker 26: Isaiah Pacheco benching him because he runs like a kid

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Speaker 26: trying on his sneakers and Gibbs. It's tough though, because

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Speaker 26: he's nasty.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 26: Number two, we got some halftime performers from the past

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Speaker 26: three years. All right, we got Usher, who's this year

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Speaker 26: hasn't gone yet, yep, Rihanna and Doctor Dre.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

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Speaker 24: I love the Doctor Dre.

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Speaker 3: That one was just I'm surprised you didn't have the

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Speaker 3: Shakira jal one on this. I just did three okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: m okay, start Doctor Trey.

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Speaker 10: I thought that was so fun, and then just everyone

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Speaker 10: he brought out it was so nostalgic. I have to

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Speaker 10: bench Rihanna, which feels blasphemous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was good too, And then you just don't know.

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Speaker 4: What us for yet.

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Speaker 3: Usher. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: I know Usher is an absolutely talented performer. I know

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Speaker 10: he's gonna shut it down, but I'm just I have

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Speaker 10: a bias to Rihanna.

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Speaker 26: We'll circle back on this in a week to see

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Speaker 26: what happened, and then this one, which segues into our

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Speaker 26: next topic, The Wags. Taylor Swift Kristen used is that

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Speaker 26: her first name for sick? Yep, Christen and Olivia Coppo

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Speaker 26: the wags.

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Speaker 3: Of the Super Bowl. Yeah, oh we're leaving some out, sorry, Britt, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought you were going to be a mutual.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So now I could go about this a couple

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Speaker 10: of ways, like from the perspective of like a player

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Speaker 10: dating one of these women, or just me. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 10: you guys know I'm swifty, but I'm not a swifty swifty.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one of the crazy ones.

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Speaker 10: Okay, I am going to start Taylor Swift because you

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Speaker 10: have to. I'll have people picketing outside of this office.

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Speaker 10: But also, like I would be stupid not too. She's

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Speaker 10: the only billionaire in this category as far as I know,

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Speaker 10: Between Colplo and Kristen. This gets difficult for me because,

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Speaker 10: I mean, copol used to date Amadola and she's she's

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Speaker 10: a Rhode Island girl, But I don't know, there's like

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Speaker 10: full disclosure. I think Olivia Copo is one of the

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Speaker 10: most beautiful human beings on the planet, right Now, however,

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Speaker 10: I something about her online presence is just really annoying.

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Speaker 10: I think she's really annoying. I think Kristen. I mean,

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Speaker 10: Kristen just signed a licensing deal for merchandising with the NFL.

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Speaker 10: And this isn't just like she's sketching up some stuff,

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Speaker 10: like she's sitting there sewing these outfits. She's so creative,

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Speaker 10: she's so talented. She seems like a really smart lady

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Speaker 10: with her good head on her shoulders. So as crazy

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Speaker 10: as it sounds, I'm cutting Miss Universe. I'm cutting the

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Speaker 10: former Miss Universe Olivia Copplo, and I'm benching Kristen starting

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Speaker 10: Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 26: All right, you're ready for this? Yes, Swift, He's don't

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Speaker 26: come at me. I'm starting Colpo. Know she's she's lived

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Speaker 26: out a New England girls dream.

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Speaker 1: She really I respect that hustle.

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Speaker 3: How many Super Bowls did she go to with Danny?

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Speaker 3: One or two?

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Speaker 1: I think too.

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Speaker 26: And so I'm benching us check okay, and I'm cotting

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Speaker 26: Swift and listen, I respect get it from a guy's person.

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Speaker 4: This is why I'm.

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Speaker 26: Cutting Swift because she she hasn't earned full wag status

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Speaker 26: to me yet she's still new to the game. This

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Speaker 26: is her first season.

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Speaker 10: That's true, but thinks other wags are jealous that she's

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Speaker 10: just stolen the show or do you think they're happy

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Speaker 10: that she's helped like elevate.

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Speaker 26: That if she takes one picture with one of them,

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Speaker 26: it's it's over.

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Speaker 10: She like that.

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Speaker 3: That's what's crazy, is she kind of put Kristin.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say she put Kristen on the map,

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Speaker 10: because Kristen was Kristen was making outfits for Simone Biles

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Speaker 10: for herself, like she already had notoriety. But when Taylor

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Speaker 10: wore her puffer to her custom puffer jacket, like basically

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Speaker 10: sealed the deal for Kristen to sign that deal with

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Speaker 10: the NFL.

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Speaker 26: I mean it's a special one again for the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 26: like Kristin.

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Speaker 10: This is a message for Kristen and Kristen only congratulations

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Speaker 10: on your new line. I would love to help you

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Speaker 10: in any way I can with any Patriots gear you have.

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Speaker 10: I can just kind of stage an imprompto photo shoot

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Speaker 10: with Tamara, myself and our team photographers. I just have

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Speaker 10: one request, please make some clothing in your line, like

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Speaker 10: jackets and stuff. But I can't be wearing players numbers

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Speaker 10: out there, so non player just the logo because it's

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Speaker 10: it's weird if I'm out there and like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So uh yeah, all right.

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Speaker 26: So before we're getting told to wrap up, it's Super

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Speaker 26: Bowl prop that season, So I want to go through

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Speaker 26: four quick. Taylor Swift, just tell me how ridiculous it

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Speaker 26: is because we're getting told to wrap up. Number one,

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Speaker 26: how many times will she be shown on the on

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Speaker 26: the the show on the camera over under is one

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Speaker 26: and a half times?

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Speaker 12: Over?

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Speaker 26: Okay, agreed? Second, will Swift and Kelsey appear together in

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Speaker 26: a commercial?

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Speaker 22: Mm?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Taylor, I say no. I don't

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Speaker 3: think Taylor is a big commercial girl.

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Speaker 26: I think no too, all right, And these are the

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Speaker 26: last two and they're third. Well, the couple announced their

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Speaker 26: first pregnancy at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 10: From the way, you'd probably only do this if you're

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Speaker 10: a winning team. Yeah, so there's a lot of guys

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Speaker 10: on these teams. Yeah, I say yeah.

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Speaker 26: And then the last one I'll do is will they

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Speaker 26: be shown kissing after the game? That's also winner losing one?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, hard, yes, all right, all right, you might have

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Speaker 26: some more props next week. Alex, thank you for joining,

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Speaker 26: and let's get back to the show.

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Speaker 27: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

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Speaker 27: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

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01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 27: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

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Speaker 27: now it's next for residential delivery only.

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Speaker 4: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 1: History.

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Speaker 4: I believe they were not in pads, right, l Yeah,

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01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 4: pads which you always ask every Wednesday, and then finally

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Speaker 4: the answer changed and you weren't here.

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Speaker 1: So do you think they will not be in pads

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Speaker 1: all week? Or will they be in pads today?

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Speaker 28: I think they were in in in pads, but not

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Speaker 28: like full pads yesterday. I think it was light pads,

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Speaker 28: but I have to double check on that. That's even

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Speaker 28: better because.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 24: Now I like now I'm doubting myself a little bit.

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Speaker 5: We noticed too, in the locker room, Mac had on

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Speaker 5: one of the scuba hats, so it seemed like he's trying.

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Speaker 28: To Yeah, a lot of the players, that's true, Like

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Speaker 28: if you were here, you would have asked these questions

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Speaker 28: and we would have told the listeners about these things.

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Speaker 4: You feel attacked. I asked them what the move was

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Speaker 4: supposed to do. Oh no, he did. He asked all

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01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 4: the requisite questions. We were upset that you weren't here

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Speaker 4: to answer.

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Speaker 24: He had the answer.

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01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, we would have gotten to this point.

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Speaker 28: Ab A lot of the players were wearing like sweatshirts

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Speaker 28: or layers underneath their their their practice outfits because the heat.

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Speaker 24: They want to they want to be hot, be hot

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Speaker 24: because of Miami.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Huh, that's it.

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Speaker 24: That's your recap of yesterday's I.

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Speaker 1: Wonder if that translates, because when you were in Miami,

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01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: the heat comes from the sun right outside rather than

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Speaker 1: coming internally. That's that's a different type a hot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where did he come from? Another places?

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01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:10,400
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from Hey are you counting down

2563
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 1: to the big game? Revamp your wreck room for an

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01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: epic watch party with sofas, recliners, entertainment centers, and coffee

2565
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 1: tables from Bob's. Visit any Bob's location to score big

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01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 1: on storage filled seating for your remotes, beverages, and game

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01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 1: day snacks at every day low prices that will make

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01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 1: you say, oh my, Bob. Make every Sunday a super

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01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 1: Sunday with Bob's discount furniture. The official Furniture Store of

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01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:36,600
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots.

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01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 5: And Paul Studio during the pregame preseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 4: I think it's Oh my bob, oh oh my bob,

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01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 4: Oh my bob, oh.

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01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: My, oh my, oh my.

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01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 3: This is why we brought you. This is why I

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01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 3: brought you guys back for the second.

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01:53:55,920 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 4: Right right, Oh my, Bob, my bob.

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01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Here we go. Not good?

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01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 12: What are we doing?

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Speaker 23: Yeah?

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01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: All right, as you're getting reset there, Freddy, I'll just

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01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 4: really quickly, I'll recap last week for everybody the divisional

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01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 4: round across the board. Everybody went one and one, picking

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01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 4: the actual game itself with the spread. Evan went to

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01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 4: and oh everybody else went one and one. So Freddy

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01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:34,200
Speaker 4: dominant has clinched the regular season the postseason title ten

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01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 4: and two, followed by Paul and Evan at eight and four,

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01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 4: Mike at seven and five, and Alex six and six

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01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 4: with the spread not clinched yet, fred eight and four,

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01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 4: followed by Paul and Evan at seven and five, and

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01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 4: Mike and Alex at four and eight. Gar, So you

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01:54:54,680 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 4: have you have a one game lead over Evan and

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 4: I with the spread, but you have clinched the the other.

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01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: Picks so good super Bowl. So we're not going to

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01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:03,640
Speaker 1: do our Super Bowl pick?

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01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 4: Well yeah, next we would have hurried.

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01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got more information to be gleaned.

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01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 4: We can't.

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01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, piece of time.

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01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 5: I really screwed that up.

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01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 4: They really did they?

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01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah they did.

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 4: The timing off a sandwich.

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01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 5: Wasn't free advertising?

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01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Some emails that came in rich in New York City.

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01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: My wife and I ever retired racing greyhound. We're on

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01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: our second greyhound. They don't run around. They sleep all

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01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: day and barely move when you take them for a walk.

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01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I highly recommend adopting one. So they're like, I've had

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:32,200
Speaker 1: it with running.

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01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's weird. You just look at them like.

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01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 5: You wish you were sprinting right now, don't you dog?

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01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 4: You know they don't. So it did used to sprint,

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01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 4: like when you go to the park and it would

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01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 4: and it would always sprint an oval. You mean like

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01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,520
Speaker 4: the park the park that park, Glendale Park.

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01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 1: Uh, what park you're talking about, not like a regular

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01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: park like Joe from Hull. I wonder if ron Uh

2621
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,720
Speaker 1: says Fred not hating humans. I wonder if Ronald Robinson

2622
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 1: hates humans. Thanks for all the fun moments this season.

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01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what the off season bring. Okay,

2624
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 1: that's it all right, Jack and ann Arbor. The golden

2625
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,839
Speaker 1: rule for how a football coach should use his players

2626
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 1: is if you've got a horse, ride him. Yeah. I

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01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:20,760
Speaker 1: would agree with that, Ben Manchester, says Daniels, because having

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01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: watched daniels tape, I fully get the caution in him

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01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: and why it may not translate to the NFL, where

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01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't have elite weapons, but what if what it

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01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,720
Speaker 1: would also give me his hope. He has the arm

2632
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: and the legs to score from literally anywhere on the field.

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01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: The Patriots could be backed up in their own half,

2634
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 1: and I'd have hope that on any play he could

2635
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: rip it deep down the field or take off with

2636
01:56:43,240 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 1: his legs and beat everyone, because he's that damn fast

2637
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: as a runner, and that to me would be exciting.

2638
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 1: Every single play something could happen. Not just can we

2639
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 1: hit the eight yard dink to pick up a first down,

2640
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: which what I've mostly thought for the last four years,

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01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: whoever it's been quarterback. I can also see a chance

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01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: he could benefit from a speech sturt to open the

2643
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 1: field like Thornton. If he could catch or rekindle a

2644
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: relationship with Booty if he hadn't gambled his way into trouble.

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01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: I get the caution on him, though. It's an enthralling

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01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:12,120
Speaker 1: off season.

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01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree with that theory of the excitement

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01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:20,919
Speaker 4: that a guy like that will provide. Ultimately, his success

2649
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 4: will depend on whether or not he can hit the

2650
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 4: eight yard dink pass on third down, because justin Fields

2651
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 4: gives you all of that right take the lamps. He

2652
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 4: can take that. He could take it to the length

2653
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 4: of the field any playing, but he doesn't do the

2654
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 4: third knee completions often enough.

2655
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: One more called Trey's in Memphis. What's up Trey?

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01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 17: Hey guys, how's it going all right?

2657
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Trey?

2658
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 13: Okay?

2659
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 17: I will listening early on in the show, and you

2660
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:49,520
Speaker 17: guys were talking about you made want to move on

2661
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 17: from I think you have to be careful well how

2662
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,160
Speaker 17: these team is carrying his sit up now with who

2663
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 17: you trade? And I don't think you know you move

2664
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 17: a guy like Judah on I mean thirty one years

2665
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 17: only to be thirty two later on this year, and

2666
01:58:03,320 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 17: I think he he still has some juice now. But

2667
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 17: I mean, so as far as moving the player, I

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01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 17: would well I'll say, you know, Jonathan Jones, I mean,

2669
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 17: but you know, you move a guy like Judaan, he's

2670
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 17: an alf a male. I don't think you want to

2671
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 17: do that. And as far as the franchise tag goes,

2672
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 17: I say, you throw the tag on Henry. I don't

2673
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 17: think it's going to cost that much. And you know

2674
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 17: there's pretty much gonna sumb up my call.

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01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 5: All right, thanks appreciate, it's a good call. That's a

2676
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 5: good call. Something to consider with Henry for sure.

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01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I did rather see if I

2678
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 4: can work out a deal with him.

2679
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 5: I do think, Uh, Judan's question is this contract and

2680
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:44,480
Speaker 5: you know, didn't they take money last year from this

2681
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 5: year put it into last year and last year so

2682
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 5: you want more?

2683
01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 4: And you know it's it's this.

2684
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I would at least anticipate some kind of

2685
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 5: holding or contract negotiation of some sort if he is

2686
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 5: going to play here, and if not, then I mean

2687
01:58:58,200 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 5: that could be impetus to move him too.

2688
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 4: And if he does play, I think what's sort of

2689
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:05,280
Speaker 4: all in agreement. We don't think they're going to be

2690
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,640
Speaker 4: a great team next year, even barring something unforeseen like

2691
01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:11,800
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels at three and he's c J. Stroud. Yeah,

2692
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 4: then what then you losen him for nothing? He'll be

2693
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,040
Speaker 4: a free agent, right, yeah, that's I think that's why

2694
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 4: you pick a guy like that. A. He can get something,

2695
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,720
Speaker 4: and B he's not part of your long term plan.

2696
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 1: All right, that's going to be it for this edition

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01:59:28,360 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: of Patriots Unfiltered. Everybody enjoy their football free weekend, if

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01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: that's possible. Excuse me. We'll be back on Tuesday. We'll

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01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday to talk about probably an announced

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but we'll see, all right, see you then.

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