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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Off Edge the Pod with your host

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Speaker 1: me Cam Jordan. I'm I'm super excited because not only

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Speaker 1: do I gotta get to talk to Og of the game,

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Speaker 1: legend of the game, if you will, you know, a

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Speaker 1: Giants legend for sure, one of the great d d ns,

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the real, one of the

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Speaker 1: first real hybrids, for real, for real that just plug

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Speaker 1: and play wherever you could go, pro bowler, all pro.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, a super Bowl champion, not one time, but

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Speaker 1: two times. My dog Og legend oco me Europe.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a great intro, man, god Lee, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I wish everybody introduced me like that.

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Speaker 3: That's incredible, cap. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to just you know, just give us

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Speaker 1: flower I'm trying to give flowers to my dog.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm blessed, you know, I'm blessed to be gainfully employed,

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Speaker 1: and I'm pissed off that we somehow we tricked off

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Speaker 1: a game against the Rams last week.

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Speaker 4: But I'm also motivated, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you this year fifteen for you year

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Speaker 2: fourteen fourteen, that's crazy, man. I remember us being in Africa. Well,

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Speaker 2: first of all, we'll probably get to that. But I

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Speaker 2: have never in my life laughed as hard as that

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Speaker 2: day when we're in that restaurant and you told me

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Speaker 2: that story that that was that was the funniest thing

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Speaker 2: I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well we will definitely, we will definitely get

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Speaker 1: to it. You know, like, oh yeah, if you can't live,

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Speaker 1: you can't love, Like what's the point of living.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I love.

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Speaker 1: I love every minute of this life. I may I

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Speaker 1: tell people, like, the worst time my life may be

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Speaker 1: you know, a game on.

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Speaker 4: A Sunday where you don't you don't come out with

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Speaker 4: the win.

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Speaker 1: But if that's the worst part of life, yeah, life

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Speaker 1: is all My people are healthy, you know, Mom's healthy, pops,

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Speaker 1: healthy kids, healthy wife healthy. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to, like really truly worry about anything

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Speaker 1: that's not out of my plate. Like everything seems to

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Speaker 1: be in control right now.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's I'm going to stop you there, because

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Speaker 2: that's not the worst. The worst isn't losing. The worst

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Speaker 2: is losing, and you don't get a sack.

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Speaker 3: That's the defense losing. You don't get a sack.

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Speaker 2: That's like your you don't you don't know what to

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Speaker 2: do for yourself for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: But see, that's that's how you focus even on a

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Speaker 1: wind though if the team wins, you don't get a sack.

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Speaker 1: I used to be hung like I didn't like, I

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Speaker 1: didn't eat, Like we won, but I didn't eat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So like everybody's yeah, and I'm like, I'm like.

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Speaker 1: I stopped the run, but like I also didn't eat

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Speaker 1: like I thought I was going to. Like, but my

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Speaker 1: happiness completely shifted a long time ago because you know,

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Speaker 1: my rookie year, I had.

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Speaker 4: One one yeah, yeah, right, I was.

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Speaker 1: Told I wasn't gonna play a run or I wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna play the past, you know, so like rookies had

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Speaker 1: to earn it.

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Speaker 4: And then ever since then, rookies have been on third down.

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Speaker 1: So like, you know, like the the ideology, I was

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Speaker 1: just like born into that old old age of bs,

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Speaker 1: you know, of the hey, you got to hurt each

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Speaker 1: and every up, but all a sudden we drop somebody

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Speaker 1: and they're just thrown in there. Or like you get

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Speaker 1: a free agent free agent and you just like throw

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Speaker 1: on the edge like yeah, yeah, he's gonna work. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't even know our culture, he doesn't know our way,

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Speaker 1: you know. But again that's it's different. So now I

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Speaker 1: love I love just winning. I love the idea. In fact,

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Speaker 1: now I'm a year fourteen, and you know, even I've

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Speaker 1: even learned again, if the worst sixty minutes I have

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Speaker 1: is them telling me that they don't need me and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, shift the page and sort of

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Speaker 1: head towards our younger guys, I'm damn near coaching, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sick that I can't be on the field because

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Speaker 1: I'm like, as much as I want to play, as

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Speaker 1: much as I want to work, as much as I

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Speaker 1: as I know I can be successful at the defensive

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Speaker 1: n spot, I'm like, yo, I just want to win.

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Speaker 1: It's one of these wins are more important than the next.

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Speaker 1: Because I was like, we can create some sort of

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Speaker 1: a push for playoffs. Let's want a damn super Bowl

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Speaker 1: because you know, you see how I threw that two

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Speaker 1: time super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're out there, guess what I don't have next

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Speaker 4: to my name? It could be all accurate.

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Speaker 1: Twenty tens, NFL Decade, All Pro Pro Bowl, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: But for some reason, super Bowl champion. There's twenty seven

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Speaker 1: years of Jordan men in the NFL, and guess what

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Speaker 1: we don't have.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot of accolades. We don't have the accolades.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I believe that probably at this stage in your life,

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Speaker 2: in your career, and nothing could probably mean more than

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Speaker 2: that because you've done everything else.

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Speaker 4: Let me just I've been to NFC championship game. I

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Speaker 4: ain't been beyond it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably it for you. Man.

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Speaker 1: Man, I need like I need to know what that

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Speaker 1: feels like. And and I and I put it up

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Speaker 1: in the category of like, like, will I consider my

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Speaker 1: career of failure if I don't win a Bowl? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: I've outshot my coverage. It's like walking around with the

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Speaker 1: wife when you know you got a ten on your shoulder,

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Speaker 1: Like it just feel you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 1: it's not as bad.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: There's there's no circumstances which you can call your career

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Speaker 2: like a failure even if you don't win, because that's

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Speaker 2: people who want super Bowls who ain't really gotten nothing.

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Speaker 4: Earned any of it.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what was just not even what excuse a jag like,

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Speaker 1: wasn't even just a guy?

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Speaker 4: Was just a guy they hired a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: You know, like if you were if you were one

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Speaker 1: of the guys, and then you have to go like

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Speaker 1: ring like Super.

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Speaker 4: Bowl, ring hunting.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, but also does it hit the same

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Speaker 1: if all you did was young team, the team, the team,

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Speaker 1: the team, and finally found.

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Speaker 3: One, It's not the same.

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Speaker 2: The whole time team straight up, straight up legendary.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm like.

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Speaker 1: I said, I've got so much loyalty towards the franchise.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if the franchise kicked me out tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I'd still have love for the franchise.

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Speaker 3: Like would you play somewhere else?

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Speaker 1: I've thought about it like four or five times over

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Speaker 1: the years.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I can touch for agency. I've

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Speaker 4: never won. I've never touched for agency.

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Speaker 1: I've never had a year where I didn't have guaranteed

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Speaker 1: money in it. I've never played without guaranteed money. That's

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Speaker 1: enough loyalty for me. Like my family good, my life good,

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Speaker 1: my kids kids will be mm hmm. I'm out in

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Speaker 1: the community daily, like you're out of the community and

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Speaker 1: in Africa trying to create the I p P. Which yea,

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Speaker 1: let's let's get into it because I'm getting I'm getting

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Speaker 1: more on me and less on you, and you're you're

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Speaker 1: the legend that we're bringing in. You know, like, uh,

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Speaker 1: we hung out in Africa. You know, uh that this

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Speaker 1: pass off season two years ago, this passive season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's offseason. That's how you know time. Time is just

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Speaker 1: a flat line. For me, It's not a circle, it's

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Speaker 1: straight linear. I'm just like, yeah, happened yesterday a week ago. Okay,

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Speaker 1: my bad. But you know, we we shot that Born

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Speaker 1: a Place Who Bo commercial out in Akra, Ghana, which

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Speaker 1: I've already called Acra until I got there and it

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Speaker 1: then became a craw which which just tells you Americans

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Speaker 1: have been wrong about everything for so long. But what

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Speaker 1: was your favorite movement A moment about shooting the Born

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Speaker 1: to Play campaign?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 2: I think overall it was just you know, seeing you

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Speaker 2: guys there, you know, like seeing you Saquan Jefferson, Like

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Speaker 2: understanding what the idea behind the NFL Africa was and

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Speaker 2: that connection that was trying to be forged, and then

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Speaker 2: just seeing it come to reality like that like, never,

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Speaker 2: in my mind whatever, imagine that the biggest names in

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Speaker 2: the NFL would have been shooting a commercial in the

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Speaker 2: middle of a markets in Ghana, You understand what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like the absurdity of that, you know, never would have

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Speaker 2: crossed my mind where we began the whole program. So

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Speaker 2: just seeing you guys there, seeing you guys connect with

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Speaker 2: your heritage where you're really from, understanding what was really

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Speaker 2: going on, seeing the way people were looking at you,

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Speaker 2: to me, that was the most special thing.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's something that I always wanted. I didn't know how

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Speaker 2: I was gonna make that happen.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: We started with just the African players, and then you know,

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Speaker 2: we started to see more and more American people were like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: I want to I want to be a part of this.

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Speaker 2: I want to understand what's going on. And you know,

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Speaker 2: seeing more people grab take towards that, which was the

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Speaker 3: And that was the part, the best part.

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Speaker 4: For me absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I got to I got to gone,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I see you all at

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Speaker 1: I was walking in the marketplaces and walking like I

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Speaker 2: You're a boy cam like, bro, yeah, cam is in

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Speaker 2: the streets.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you're in.

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Speaker 4: The I'm in there and I'm in this.

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Speaker 1: You hit me. Was like, was like, hey man, this

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Speaker 1: is not like it's not like you can't just walk

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Speaker 1: I was like, to be clear, I feel so.

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Speaker 4: At home here.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I look across the way and brother brother called me

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Speaker 1: light skin, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm walking, I'm vibing. The old ladies is all hitting

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Speaker 1: on me. You know, they hit me with that big

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Speaker 1: back activities. I'm like a Mary Sweetheart, no home, but

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Speaker 1: you know, like just just enjoying the culture.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Just I love anytimes like I've hit Africa, I just

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm good there, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: and I've probably got a false sense reality because I'm

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Speaker 1: just walking around like, yeah, these are my people, you know,

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Speaker 1: whether it's been Egypt, whether it's been Ghana, Liberia. You know,

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Speaker 1: the more Africa that I see, it's just like the

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Speaker 1: more I feel like, you know, when you walk around

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Speaker 1: and you know, all the owners, all the whatever is

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Speaker 1: history that you may have a part of, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you do the twenty three and me and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh you got Nigerian and and I recoach YadA YadA,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, hell yeah, you know mother Lancetrong.

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Speaker 2: Because you know that's like to be To be completely honest,

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Speaker 1: Me, Man, legendary vibes. And then you look, you took

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Speaker 2: Yeaes sir absolutely, man that it's important that when you

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Speaker 3: So rather than.

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Speaker 2: Doing charity the way people usually do. Why don't we

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Speaker 2: which is American football to give the people, those incredible

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Speaker 2: And that was the whole idea behind the NFL Africa program.

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Speaker 3: Make some money. People who are on the streets that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's that's something that's really what that

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got guys who are you know, in

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Speaker 3: It's it's crazy, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: I mean just the assurd.

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Speaker 1: In fact, tell Hard Knocks to call us bro like

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Speaker 1: He's going to get this invite to this team, just

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Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine that story.

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Speaker 4: The match is just just the story alone.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I when I was uh you know,

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Speaker 4: But David On Yamata came from Nigeria. In Nigeria, you know, just.

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Speaker 4: You know it's different, but.

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Speaker 4: Whatever you catch in the.

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Speaker 4: This bush meet? Can tall?

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Speaker 1: You like, you're just You're just throw it in the

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Speaker 3: This man, it's a different life.

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Speaker 4: It's different life, completely different life. You hear that.

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Speaker 1: It's like you just I'm just like, I'm glad I

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Speaker 4: Really you were you were more like war Eagle Obama.

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Speaker 2: But oh yeah, but there's a lot, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So my idea of America was that you understand what.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean by you're going to America doesn't

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Speaker 2: So we go from Nigeria, where we're thinking America is

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00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,199
Speaker 2: one way, and I get to not only America, but

438
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,160
Speaker 2: I get to the south of America and I get

439
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 2: to Alabama Section eight, you know, right in the middle

440
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 2: of Oak Rage housing projects, and my mind was completely blown.

441
00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 2: I never I couldn't even imagine what it was that

442
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 2: I was seeing. I didn't understand the way they were talking,

443
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,239
Speaker 2: I didn't understand the way they dressed, and I just

444
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 2: I didn't know, you know, America was like that.

445
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 1: You know, so, oh see the son of a king

446
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: in Nigeria, the prince prince oci Section eight housing, real

447
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: coming to America type stuff.

448
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: Like but that's really, that's really you know a lot

449
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,239
Speaker 2: of people don't really know this, but that's really what happened. Like,

450
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: it's really what happened. Like my father like he would

451
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, he was he was the king of our village.

452
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: And so that was I would say coming to America

453
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: was an exaggerated version of our lives, but it was

454
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 2: it was similar, you understand, And so you leave that

455
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 2: and you you come to Section eight housing, and in

456
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: all being Alabama, it was it was bizarre.

457
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 3: And so we had to navigate our way through that.

458
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: Everybody know you and care about you and like what

459
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 1: you know, village protectors to hey, man, don't give a

460
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: damn about you.

461
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 4: Let b find the first guy met.

462
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: I'll never forget this.

463
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: And I got to school and I told him I

464
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: was from Nigeria and he was like, oh, how did

465
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 2: you get here? I was like, well, we flew. He

466
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 2: was like you flew?

467
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 3: What do you mean?

468
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 2: They ain't got planes over there? You came over here

469
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: on a whale, and I thought it was joking.

470
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: He was joking.

471
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 2: He couldn't understand that, you know, we could actually fly

472
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: to America because in Africa we didn't have any.

473
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 3: Of these things. So it was third that was crazy, bro, crazy.

474
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: But also Alabama, you know, like, come on, education South,

475
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: it's it's a thing.

476
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 2: It's different there. But then also some of the nicest people,

477
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, that's Southern charm, Southern aspects.

478
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: That's a real that's a real thing too.

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 2: So they have some of the nicest, you know, most generous,

480
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: you know people, and and you know, once I outed

481
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: to play football, I started to you know, make friends

482
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: and all that good stuff, and then everything just starts

483
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 2: to roll from there. And you know, some of my

484
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 2: best friends are you know, they're from there. But it's

485
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 2: initially that shock was.

486
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 3: Crazy.

487
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: Come from come from the West coast, the southern the

488
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: Southern shock is real. You're like, oh, oh.

489
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 4: Like is this the nineties?

490
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: Like why why do you feel like everything's a little

491
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: bit outdated?

492
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 4: Know what do you mean?

493
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, it's crazy.

494
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: I mean the transition alone from New Orleans from twenty

495
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: eleven to twenty twenty something has been outstanding, Like I

496
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: can only imagine.

497
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 4: What it was like in Bama.

498
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: God Damgnya Bama.

499
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you like it, love it, love.

500
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: Or do nobody come down? And I don't know why.

501
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean because you used to come with the Giants.

502
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: So anybody, anybody that was part of the Ops is

503
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 1: the Ops. You know, like you you live here, they

504
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: love you, you play for here, like they're they're willing

505
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: to go out their way for you.

506
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's unlike.

507
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: New York, Like New York's always feels double edged, like

508
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: even when they like you, you feel like they're ready

509
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 1: to stab you in the back. Like here, guys, he's

510
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: Coasters man. You never you never really know where you

511
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: stand with him. You're like, you know you might die,

512
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 1: but you're also not their guy. You know.

513
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: You know what I didn't know because you know, I

514
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 2: played I played my final two seasons in Atlanta with

515
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: the Falcons.

516
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

517
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people understand that Falcons

518
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: and they don't. They don't understand what's going on there, man, Like,

519
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: can you explain?

520
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 3: Can you do your best to explain to me what

521
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: what is that?

522
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: I don't know?

523
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Our city is better than ours, Like it's a it's

524
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: a it's a city vers city honestly situation, you know,

525
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: which is crazy because uh, in the NFL, like the

526
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: Giants have people that they dislike, but the whole conference,

527
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: Like Giants don't like Philly, but Philly doesn't like you know, cowboys.

528
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't like and y'all sort of don't sort of

529
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: okay with the Washington Commanders but don't like them, you know,

530
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: but like for for for our conference, like you know,

531
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: so the same thing with the AFC North, Like they're like, oh,

532
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: we don't like the Steelers, don't like the Bengals, and

533
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: the Bengals don't like the Ravens. Like everybody has this

534
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: interchangeable hate. You know, it's very directed. Atlanta doesn't like

535
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and you know what, the energy is returned.

536
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: New Orleans doesn't like Atlanta.

537
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: The Saints don't I hate, you know, I hate Falcons players,

538
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, teammates that go over there.

539
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 4: I just feel like they're traitorous. Coaches go over there.

540
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 4: I'm like, how did you choose lesser?

541
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 5: You know?

542
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: It's I mean, like even though yeah, there's so many

543
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: similarities and yet there isn't you know, a Falcon can

544
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: never be a saint, you know, m.

545
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 3: That's that's that is a real Yeah. I didn't. I

546
00:24:58,920 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: didn't understand it.

547
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: When I got there, I was like, why are they

548
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: so why are they so angry?

549
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: So this is this is different because you feel you

550
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: feel the evil energy where you're walking there.

551
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 4: Lock the gates behind them. When we get done beating

552
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 4: your behind, then you can leave.

553
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: There's been there's been years where we've flown in Atlanta

554
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 1: and they egged the buses like that's where like I love.

555
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 4: It, I love it. I love to hate them.

556
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: You know I was saying talking about football just in general,

557
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: like you know, how was I was leaving from one

558
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: team to another because I've never done it. You go

559
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: to from like when Super Bowls and Giants going to

560
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: trash Atlanta. Uh yeah, Okay, the city is nice. I

561
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: do enjoy Atlanta, but the Falcons they're not even in

562
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: They're not even in Atlanta anymore. They're like they took

563
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: they took right. There was the New Orleans super Dome,

564
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: which was was at the time when the Mercedes been

565
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: super Dome and can Atlanta couldn't you know, they couldn't

566
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: emulate what a Super Bowl ring looked like so many

567
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: they became. They became the Mercedes Ben sup Super domb.

568
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: You got so many different variations of insults. You got

569
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: just yeah, a plethora.

570
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I've been here for fourteen years. The bag is

571
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: not getting lighter, you know.

572
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: Man, I hear you so I al would say this.

573
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: It's I because I lived in Atlanta my whole career,

574
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: even when I was playing with New York, Like, Atlanta

575
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: is my off season home. My parents lived there before.

576
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: When I was in school, they were living in Atlanta,

577
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 2: so Atlanta was where so it was almost like coming

578
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: home right in that sense. But oddly enough, you know,

579
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I wasn't a great player until

580
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: I got to Atlanta.

581
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: That's that's when I knew that I wasn't a great player.

582
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no.

583
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Cap The entire time I was in New York, I

584
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: thought I was the best defensive end in football.

585
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: I thought that I did. In my head. I was like,

586
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: I'm the best defensive end in football. As you have

587
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: to think, right, and.

588
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: You know, because you're having a lot of success, but

589
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: you don't really account for the other dogs who I

590
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: had with me.

591
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: You understand, who made my job so much easier, just to.

592
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: Straight hand JP Interior, Robbins Cofield like lin Val, like

593
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: killers and so you know, you're doing all this stuff

594
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: in New York and then I was, yeah, I'm there.

595
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Then I get to Atlanta and them dudes ain't there,

596
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: and that level of success could have replicated.

597
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, okay, I'm good. I was a

598
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 6: good player. The great players. The great players could replicate

599
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 6: success anyway anywhere.

600
00:27:59,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: That's just a fact.

601
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: And leaving New York, to me, it was something that

602
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: had to be done.

603
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 3: You know.

604
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: I enjoyed my years in Atlanta. I did the great people,

605
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: great great organization. But that's when I found out that

606
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't the greatest defensive end in football. I found

607
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: it out there.

608
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: That's what you can I mean, speaking of guys moving

609
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: in there, what do you think about like, you know,

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: like there's some giant Philadelphia hate. What do you think

611
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: about Saint Quan going from the Giants to Philly?

612
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course you know where

613
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: we were in in Ghana. I spoke to Saquan and

614
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: I pulled him aside. I spoke to him and his

615
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: father and I was like listen, there's only two players

616
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: who I've told not to leave New York. I told Odell, yeah,

617
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: don't leave New York. And then you know, when I

618
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: ran into him, he was like, well he didn't want

619
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: to leave. They kind of forced him out. So he

620
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: didn't really want to leave New York, but he forced

621
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: him out.

622
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: So Bowl champion Odell Beckham, Yeah, yeah, exactly, you kicked

623
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: me out.

624
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Exactly right now.

625
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: I still think his career, even though he want to ring,

626
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: I think Odell in New York was that's a that's

627
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: different gravy bro. That's just that was. That was a movement. Yeah,

628
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: you understand what I mean. He was a different level

629
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: of star in New York than than we've seen.

630
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: Right, baby Baby Deity for sure.

631
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: Oh that was that was that was an incredible time

632
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: for him. And so that that I think I was

633
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: kind of correcting him not wanting to leave New York.

634
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: Now. I spoke to Sau. I was like, listen, don't

635
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: don't do this, you know, new York, because I you.

636
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Know, I had left New York and you know it

637
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: didn't work out. And at that point in time, I

638
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: hadn't really seen people who left New York that went

639
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: on to have real success. So I was like, yeah,

640
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: don't do that, And I got to tell you all

641
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: was wrong. Yeah, he didn't take my advice, Cam and he's.

642
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 3: A to be the MVP. Man.

643
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 4: There we go. That's all it's gonna say.

644
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: Say ridiculous, ridiculous.

645
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: It ain't been.

646
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: It ain't been a running back as MVP in years,

647
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: a decade, decades. I don't know what that is, but

648
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: it feels like it's very quarterback or or wide receiver

649
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: at bast and yet here we are.

650
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: Like this, like did you see the backwards hurt? Like

651
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: what what was that?

652
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean they added in in Madden bro like the

653
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: backward hurdle, and you you get excited when you know

654
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: it said top ten highlight when somebody hurdles over somebody,

655
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: he goes, he goes backwards, and then get yeah, yeah

656
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: he's going absolutely federal.

657
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Speaker 4: You know Eagles. Then go ahead, and you know.

658
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: Just thinking about the Eagles, Now Sae Kwon goes over.

659
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: Now you know he's he's probably a MVP favorite. They

660
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: beat they beat the Ravens, Does that prove that they're

661
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: contender worthy?

662
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: Now? Definitely, would you say there a favorite? I would

663
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 3: say that in the in the NFC.

664
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: Okay, best team in the NFC.

665
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: Detroit Detroit is Detroit is a superb team also, but

666
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: I believe Philly can beat Detroit. So in the NFC,

667
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: you have to you have to put them when you

668
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: look at the way that roster's constructed, that offensive line

669
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: dominance right, their running game, their defense is playing well,

670
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: they have received they can beat you in every way,

671
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: so that there's really no way that you can look

672
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: at Philly and be like, Okay, you know this is

673
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: a team unless the quarterback struggles and they're lightning the

674
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: load off of him with that running game, So it's

675
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: got They're gonna be a tough out in the NFC.

676
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: I would say that probably, you know, if not number one,

677
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: that one beat definitely.

678
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: M m.

679
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's take this back out of your career.

680
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Is there a single game that you can, like, you

681
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: can highlight that you black man, that was my best game.

682
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 2: Ever, best game ever, So I had We're playing against Philly.

683
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: I had six acts in the game in Philly.

684
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: Before I got to the league. I remember that though

685
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I was in college. Yeah yeah, oh seven yeah, so.

686
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: Six sacks in the game. But that that wasn't I

687
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: don't think that was my best game.

688
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: Six sacks was in your best game? You know?

689
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: You pass rushers only quantify sacks, like, yeah, yo, y'all

690
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: do't y'all would be like, oh, I had fourteen tackles,

691
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: like there was a there was a game I had fourteen.

692
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I was like, really him, like you only had you

693
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: only had a half sack. I have fourteen tackles. I

694
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: was everywhere anyways, but six six sacs? Why why is

695
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: that not your Why is that not your best game?

696
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,239
Speaker 2: Because and I got to the quarterback a total of

697
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: eight times.

698
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: Cy clip, you know what I mean?

699
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 4: Eight times six sacks.

700
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: I love the outcomes, right, So, but that's that's what

701
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: you call like an anomaly that that doesn't happen a

702
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: lot of times. You get to the quarterback eight nine times,

703
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: you might walk away with one and a.

704
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: Half two, you know what I mean?

705
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so every time I got back there was a sack. Now,

706
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: we played against Carolina it was in two thousand and six,

707
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: actually six and I hit the quarterback thirteen times. Not

708
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: precious thirteen quarterback hits, zero sacks, right, But to me,

709
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: that was that was that was my best game as

710
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: a as a pass rusher. I'd never I'd never passed

711
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: rushed like that before. That was my best game as

712
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: a pass rusher. Thirteen quarterback hits thirteen is crazy thirteen

713
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: back there.

714
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: I might I might have been more sick leaving that

715
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: game than I would. Oh yeah, Like I got six

716
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: sacks off eight hits thirteen and you leave with nothing nothing,

717
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: zero zero, Like I tell you when I tell you,

718
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I'd leave the game so frustrated, like, oh, you had

719
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: a great game, don't talk to me right now.

720
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 4: Like I got to figure out how to get one

721
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 4: step faster.

722
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

723
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm on I'm on sledge training for the next five

724
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: days because I'm really getting there.

725
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: Or not getting there trying to get that would that

726
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: would have hurt my feelings like more, it's it's the

727
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: it's the success that you.

728
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Don't have that I feel like bothers me anyways more

729
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: than ever, Like you could come up with you know,

730
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I played Philly and had you know, three sacks against

731
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Mike Vick. When I was young, girl, I was like,

732
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: this is my first three set game. I was like, amazing,

733
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to film, but you fell off too, like

734
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: now it's like it.

735
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: Really could have been a five sack game.

736
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: I would I had a good game, but it could

737
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: have been legendary, you know, like.

738
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but for you to what you hit a.

739
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: Quarterback a dozen plus times and come up with nothing.

740
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: I probably zero me and you would have the same

741
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: amount of hair I might. I might have pulled it

742
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: all out. It would have been done, Like no.

743
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 4: Bro, what sick?

744
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: But those those thatswishes are you know, We're like, hey,

745
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: we're a different breed man.

746
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: You know this.

747
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: You know you know what even makes me mad, Like

748
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: when we would have interior players, you know what I mean,

749
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: like you know, limb ball and yeah, and trying to

750
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: get I'll be I'll be angry. I'd be like no, no, no, no,

751
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: no no.

752
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Duke stopped to run. You played the screen.

753
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: Hey, In fact, I tell you de talkles all the.

754
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: Time before they try to convert me to you tagle.

755
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 4: This year, do you do you tackle? Stop? They stopped

756
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: the screen. So there's a screen.

757
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: Your job is to get in front of that running

758
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: back and buy us one more second because I should

759
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: be on his ass. Or the next year, like you

760
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: stopped the run and stop the screens.

761
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: Let's should take care of that exactly.

762
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: I will tell limbll I was like, okay, listen and

763
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: he'll tell you.

764
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: You know, Limb J.

765
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: Monster he was.

766
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: He was really good at the Giants. But he made

767
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: his hey in Minnesota.

768
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: In Minnesota, that's where he became a real real baller.

769
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: But when when when? When in New York?

770
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: I would tell him because you know he'd be trying

771
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: to get sacks. I like, listen, listen, listen to Limb.

772
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: You see there's a tree and it's full of fruits,

773
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: and the fruits is the sack.

774
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: Your job is to pull the branch down.

775
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: So I car you guys, defensive ends, Bro, we're a.

776
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: Special ego ego maniacs. At times like you, you go

777
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: in and be like, you know, if if somebody falls

778
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: off me and you get it, you literally like, hey, bro,

779
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: it's all full circuit.

780
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 5: Come back your way.

781
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: But if you don't want it, I donay. It may

782
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: not say your name, but you're in there. Like when

783
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: you look at my sacks, think of it as an

784
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: US thing. Like the defensive ends are sick hos, like

785
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: the way the way you felt about noles. That's why

786
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: I look at linebackers I see tomorrow days like Blitz

787
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: and he has six seven sacks on the season. I'm like,

788
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: you're dead wrong. You should be you should be covered.

789
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: You should be covered to buying us time to do

790
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: what we could do. No linebacker, ever, no middle linebacker

791
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: gets paid off of sacks like it.

792
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: It's a it's a high five for you.

793
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: You can get paid off of your your deflections and

794
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: your tackles and interceptions. That's your that's your chairy on top.

795
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your sacks. W go back there and

796
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: that tight end like you're supposed to. Man, that's crazy. Look,

797
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: I know, I know you got things to do. I

798
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: just I just wanted to appreciate you for your time. Man,

799
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on tapping in with the pod, off

800
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: the Edge podcast, all your success, for all the leadership,

801
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: for all the ambassador programs that you're you know you

802
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: you're lending power to and and creating a platform for.

803
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: It's it's not only commendable, it's going to be the future.

804
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: You know.

805
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: I hope twenty years from now, we're not gonna talk

806
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: about how few Nigerians are and we're gonna talk about

807
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: how many Africans are part of the NFL. But I

808
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: appreciate you tapping in off the edge the pod with

809
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan. Man appreciate oh see, you know, just dropping

810
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: game per usual, just talking when I tell you a

811
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: great guy, great great person. I wish I was younger

812
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: to have been on the Giants, just to just to

813
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: try and learn from a group like they had. I

814
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: mean they had dogs back in the day. Oh Seaman,

815
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: you're you talk about Mike's Trey han who's a legend. Everybody,

816
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: every defense man wanted to be like Mike, want to

817
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: be like Mike straight hand, especially after the career that

818
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: he's had you transition to TV etctera. It's just, you know,

819
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: he's the standard. You talk about JPP. You remember JPP

820
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: dog uh and then of course Justin Tuck. You know,

821
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: just like there's a reason why they won championships. They

822
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: built from the D line and up. That's how That's

823
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: how I build championship team. I'd go strong, interior, amazing ends,

824
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: and then you build a team as they are. But anyways,

825
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: of course, amazing quarterback, you know, take back prime Drew

826
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: Brees and just give them, you know, me bringing Trey

827
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: Henderson Will Smith as a pass rush in three and

828
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: then I take a probably prime Centric Ellis or Sheldon

829
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: Rankings or ooh now, Brian Berzi. He's got six and

830
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: a half saxon the season. Either way, that's just the

831
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: Saints wants that I can never have. That I can't

832
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: get back.

833
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 4: But you know, there's there's there's more. So we'll see

834
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: how the shakes out.

835
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: We're entering the segment I like to call the final push.

836
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: And honestly, you know, when I think about how we

837
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: lost to the Rams, we lost by seven, we twenty

838
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: one to fourteen.

839
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 4: We had a chance at the end to finish it.

840
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 4: I wish we were just finished.

841
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: You know.

842
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: The pivotal change the last couple of games has been

843
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: finishing strong, start fast, finished strong. We started fast, three

844
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: points up, six points up, we go into halftime six

845
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: So you have to be able to finish those games.

846
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Go twenty one points on the defense in the in

847
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the second half. It's just now calling it an embarrassing.

848
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: It hurts because if they don't score after the second half,

849
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: they can't win.

850
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: For it to come down to the final wire, we

851
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 4: don't get it done.

852
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: This shit got to figure out a way to get

853
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: back in the W column. I mean, our division is

854
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: still up for grab. Somehow, some way, we have to

855
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: be able to close this out. We go five strong.

856
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: You can't tell me we're not sliding in. We're still

857
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: playing hopeful games, meaningful games.

858
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 4: So we have to be able to figure that out.

859
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 3: Too.

860
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't help when you lose guys like

861
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, Nick's out, goes down, our starting offensive guard

862
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: for the game. He goes down. Then you know, Tyring

863
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: goes down, but he's coming back, you know, he goes

864
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: I think he comes back in or maybe he doesn't,

865
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: but it's not as bad as I think. But then

866
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: you lose Taysom Hill and it you lose a guy

867
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: like Taysom Hills. Man's a Swiss army knife. And I'm

868
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: not even sure what the injury was. I don't even

869
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it because if if a season ending

870
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: like it probably will be that hurts. I mean, you've

871
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: seen what he does and in our short yardage game alone,

872
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: and that that's game saving.

873
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: Nobody stops tasting third and two, third and third and one.

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Speaker 1: How you can't so that that that changes a dynamic?

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Speaker 4: What do you where?

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Speaker 1: Where do you where's he gonna line up at wyde, receiver, slot,

877
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: tight end, full back. He might be the thirteen personnel

878
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: big tight end. I mean he plays every position. So

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00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: to lose something like him, man, that that's going to

880
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: take an adjustment. You can't replace a guy like him.

881
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean you've seen when he's healthy. When he's out,

882
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: that's like replacing a guy like you can't. Some guys

883
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: just aren't replaceable.

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Speaker 3: You know.

885
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: It's like headdreshers being thrown inside on.

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Speaker 4: The Tier D line.

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Speaker 1: But I digress. So we got to be able to

888
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: find our way to win. You know, the Saints fans

889
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: have been nothing short but amazing. They came back, they've rallied.

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00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: It's like they've they've been the Saints team. Like you know,

891
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: when we won we were related and we lose. It's

892
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: like we could have won, and you feel that in

893
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: the city we're just trying to win. We have to

894
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: find our way to win because the fans deserve it.

895
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, for random people that I

896
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: saw like online, like hey, we should tank for a spot.

897
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 4: What do you talk about. There's no tank. It's this

898
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: year or nothing.

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00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: It's like the Super Bowls in New Orleans and you

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00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: tell me we still have a playoff chance.

901
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: We can't tank.

902
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Ain't no such thing as tank, and we have to

903
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: take that to take Yeah, not tank. Take tank is

904
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: my son. Nah, No, tank is where he belongs right

905
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: right in school, right now. Take every win available, five

906
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: games if we have to find a way, find our reason,

907
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: find our drive to take every win this this uh,

908
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: this season. So whatever happens, let it happened, but we

909
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: have to take these wins.

910
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 4: Five left.

911
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: We figured, you figure we finished nine and eight. We

912
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: can live with that. Darren Rizzy, interim head coach, We

913
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: can live with that.

914
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: You know.

915
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, the way he's been playing, I wish he

916
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: had never got hurt like they if our teams healthy,

917
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: Rashi she Chris Olive. You know, we don't miss out

918
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: on anybody any games. Talking about ak talk about Jamal Williams,

919
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: you talk about you know, healthy Kendre Miller. Completely different conversations, bro,

920
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: But that's now where we're at.

921
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: This is the NFL.

922
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: Guys get hurt, things happen for the final for the

923
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: final part, you know, it's just being thankful, you know,

924
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: thankful that we have our chance to have five more games,

925
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: that we're not out of playoffs, that we still can

926
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: still fight it. I'm even more thankful, you know that

927
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm part of a phenomenal organization, a phenomenal franchise. I'm

928
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: at the highest level thankful because you know, I talked

929
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: to OC early and I was like, Yo, the family's healthy.

930
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 1: My kids are healthy. You know, wife, mom, dad, daughter's son,

931
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: everybody's good.

932
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: You know this this passed by week.

933
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I was out in LA and I did a lot

934
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: of you know, did a lot of Vincent's studio, but

935
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: all over at the Fox studio there was a kid.

936
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: I talked to.

937
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 1: Aiden Steiner where, man, he's got one of the rarest

938
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: because he's as a kid, he's a child. You know,

939
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Speaker 1: it was a whole acronom I NA D Infantile neuroximal

940
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: disorder where you know, like they say a lot of

941
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: those kids don't even make it past ten. As a father,

942
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I am heartstruck, like broken, Like I'm like, I can't

943
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: even imagine if if it was a cousin, it was

944
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: a friend, it was Aidan, Like I'm talking ad and

945
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like heart hurt. I can imagine if it

946
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: was my child. So that's why I'm saying, my life

947
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: is a blessing and you have to take advantage of

948
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: each and every opportunities. And hopefully you know to listeners

949
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: out there, you're doing just that. You're you're enjoying each

950
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: and every moment, the ups at the downs, because there

951
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: is an opportunity. As long as you're breathing breath of

952
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: fresh air, as long as you're breathing life, you can

953
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: speak life. And if you can speak life, you can

954
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: just create positivity. You create positivity, you can create a

955
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: momentum change. If you need a momentum change, come be

956
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: around me. I'm gonna be nothing but the highest positive

957
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: and highest push for positivity. And that's you know, gonna

958
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: start with the Saints going want to know this week

959
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: that's shout out to the Steiner family.

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00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: Shout out to Aiden and if there's a.

961
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Chance to even overcome, I hope he does because to

962
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: hear that man, that's a strong family. Dad, patient mom, patient,

963
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: little brother, understanding and patient. Like, just be blessed for

964
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: what you have and know that even though things can

965
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: always be better, they can always be worse. So God

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Speaker 1: bless This is Cam Jordan Off the Edge podcast.

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Speaker 4: Tune in wherever you get your podcasts, whether the.

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio so uh it's it's the Apple podcasts. You know,

969
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're still here, we're

970
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: still together, and I'm gonna keep on rocking, keep on

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Speaker 1: rocking with me.

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Speaker 4: Just out there is the pot me Your host, Caim

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