WEBVTT - RTC Gone Wild 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.240 Hello everyone, and welcome back to a real time crime 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.599 and welcome me back to America. Um baby in l A. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.400 And if you are looking at a clip of me, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.840 you can see we've got the murder board behind me, 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:31.800 which only means one thing. I'm at home. Am I happy? No? 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.640 I was just let's let's stop the facade. We don't 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.239 have to pretend like you're happy to be back in 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.159 your your apartment living room in Los Angeles while your 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.239 boyfriend is over in Europe. You left for Europe for 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.680 like You're like, I'm going for a long weekend. Five 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:49.040 weeks later, she's like, I'm back. Here's what really happened, Dmitri. 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.520 You didn't lay out the timeline correctly, and everyone deserve 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.760 know the details. I was going to a comedy festival 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:59.440 in Dubai for six days. Then some friends were like, hey, 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:02.120 when you come to in Croatia with us before Dubai. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.520 Me having never been to Europe, never studied abroad, has 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.160 never gone on vacation, was like, yeah, maybe I'll do it. 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.760 And since I've never gone on vacation, I was basically 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.360 just like, oh my god, two and a half weeks 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.840 out of America, this is insane. I shouldn't do this. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.600 This is crazy. So three days into my trip and 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.480 a visa, my friend Danny was like, oh my god, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.440 there's this um Jewish guy coming and you I should 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.639 really get together. He's Australian. That was my Australian accent, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:34.360 and I hate when people push Jews together. So I 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.000 was like, no, I don't want to meet this guy. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.479 You know. It's like we're not going to get along 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.080 just because we're both Jewish, you know. And You're like, no, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.640 we're gonna get along because holy crapp, he's hot. There 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.600 we go. I saw him and I was like, never mind, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:49.040 I'm in um and the rest was history. And so 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.080 after Dubai, I went back to London, and then I 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.560 went to the can Film Festival, and I went back 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.720 to London, and then we went to Paris together, and 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.680 then we went back to London and I met his family. Oops, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:03.040 I'll in into my ex in London who literally tackled 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:06.760 me to the street in front of your new boy. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.080 He wasn't there, but he pulled me from here's the 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:12.480 craziest thing. He found me in London, pulled me from 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.840 behind and then tackled me down on onto the street 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.160 and I literally didn't even scare. Was your ex boyfriend 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.600 like a w w E wrestler or uh no. But 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:26.760 the fact that I didn't scream, let's you know that, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.760 I'm just like prepared to die. I was like, well, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.120 all right, it just gave up. I guess you got 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.480 to be that. In order to host a true crime podcast, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:41.359 you have to be okay with with whatever happens. I 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.240 was like, well, this is it, you know, um. But anyway, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.600 you guys, this is not what this is about. I 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:49.840 came here because I literally waited for the very last 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.760 day to come home for Air Griffin's wedding, which is today. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.560 So go to Eric's wedding later. And if Eric wasn't 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.760 getting married, I would have stayed in Europe. So we 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.200 have Eric to thank for my grand return. Earn. Wait, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.120 so why didn't you bring um, why don't you bring 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:07.520 your boyfriend back? He also has a wedding. Did Eric 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.560 not give you a plus one? Yeah? Well no, Eric, 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.840 Eric did give me a plus one ironically yesterday because like, yeah, 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:15.120 we have a cancelation. You want to bring your boy 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:16.880 and my keys in. He's been following your social media 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.720 like crap. Well, Eric has heard of me talk about 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.760 my sad seat of life literally for years now, so he, 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.720 of all people, is very happy about this. But no, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.560 he couldn't come. He also has a wedding, but I'll 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.320 see him in a couple of weeks. You guys, no 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:33.360 one wants here about thank you. I think I think 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.640 they deserved an update because I'm sure they've been following 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.240 you on social media. I think they deserve to kind 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.160 of hear the update and what's going on. But it's 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.640 also understanding we don't want to lay it all out 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.040 now because we want to save it for when he 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.440 comes on. Yeah, but also, you know on my social media, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.600 I'm still single and all my clips are like, oh 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.120 my god, I'm single. And there was a couple of 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:52.960 your story has got a couple of pictures. They look 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.040 like engagement pictures. So I was gonna ask you about that. 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.360 He only lost two thousand followers one photo of him, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.040 did you really? I lost two thousand followers, and then 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.480 I posted some stories being like, look, people, at some point, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.640 I am going to find a guy who will stay forever. 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.560 So if you're going to leave, just leave now, because 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:11.880 if I don't know what you thought, did you think 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.360 I was gonna marry you person I've never met from 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:18.440 the internet, Like, what did you want? Yeah? But I 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.080 mean you know so anyway, moral of a story is, uh, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.880 I haven't really released the crack in on Instagram yet, 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:30.880 thank you. Speaking of boyfriends, our first hot topic today 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.440 deals with a woman who allegedly films herself throwing her 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:41.520 cheating mother's ashes in a body of water. Hm. The 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.279 fact that you just said you've heard and seeing it all, 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:46.600 I mean, that's one of our hot topics for today. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.080 Another hot topic will be discussing is an animal rescue 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.120 ceo arrested after thirty dead cats and dogs found in 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:56.080 her house. Finally rounding out with a socalled woman finding 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.960 thirty six dollars in cash hidden in account she bought 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.440 off Craigslist. And we have a very special guest today, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.279 Katinka Newman, who is a documentary filmmaker who created Girls 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:10.159 Gone Wild Exposed, which will be airing Monday, doing thirteenth 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.320 on t n T. I can't wait to talk to her. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.000 But let's go back to that first. Let's not over 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.760 So she this woman had a boyfriend that cheated on 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.159 her and her revenge was to film herself. By the way, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:28.200 when you film yourself, you can't self sticks. But you 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.680 can't then say I didn't do it, because you may 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.120 be evidence yourself. You're literally like, look at me, I 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.200 did it, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I did it. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.080 But this this this, So there's the two wrongs make 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:39.920 a right thing right, but then there's like a worse 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.680 or a worse wrong. Right. So I'm sorry that your 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.520 boyfriend cheated on you. Okay, but if you want to, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.200 I don't really give ah, it seems like he cheated 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.760 because she's a little crazy. Well yeah. And then so 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.760 her getting back at him was to throw his mother's 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.920 ashes in a lake, Like I don't think I'm sorry 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.800 that he cheated on you. Move on. It was a 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.359 boy friend. Sometimes this ship happens. I don't think it 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.919 should happen, but sometimes it does. But two, then desecrate 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.120 his mother's ashes in a lake, because that's like your 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.240 revenge thing. Just lose the sympathy. The whole point of 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.320 of doing something or saying you got cheated on, I assume, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.800 is to gain sympathy, and you've thrown that out the window. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:21.880 I think we're gonna have to call you, Dmitri popass Off. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.960 I think we're I think we're okay, Okay, you never mind. Yeah. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.600 So this forty year old woman, Augustine Gladden e in 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:35.039 May I mean okay. So this is nearly two years 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.200 after she was accused of throwing her boyfriend's mother's ashes 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.720 into Lake Worth Um had a video go viral on 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:47.479 social media about her throwing the ashes the lake. Of course, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:50.320 it's always social media bringing things back into the light, 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.799 use social sleuths. Apparently this happened in you know, covid 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.000 made people do crazy things, but she cannot check off 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.920 COVID for this one. This is all her babe. So 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.560 apparently they were not a good terms, which is obvious. 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.520 And then the man overheard a conversation between the suspect 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:06.680 and her daughter in which she said she'd thrown the 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.560 urn into the lake and then she later did admit 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:13.080 to it, and a video posted to the social media 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.800 platform TikTok l o l described the incident gain traction 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.280 over the weekend, gaining more than the thirty thousand views, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.040 which should be honest, is not that name um. The video, 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.560 which appears to be re enactment of the incident, received 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:30.160 a hundred comments, and to be fair, I don't know 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.320 why we're considering this viral like this is. You know, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.200 I got a hundred comments on bathing suit. I should 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.960 have gotten more, to be fair, should have gotten more. 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.040 It should have been illegal that I only got a hundred. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.680 But she's now facing an abuse of a corpse charge, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:48.040 which is a class A misdemeanor. I mean, that's class 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:55.320 as Let me wow, thank you, thank you, welcome back 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.440 to l a joke. I really appreciate it. Now let 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.440 me ask you something to Metri. What's the craziest thing 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.440 you've done or would do to get revenge on an 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.880 unfaithful partner? Ear muffs to your wife? E exactly what 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.640 I said. Played the sympathy card right, getting that the 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:13.200 whole point of when you've been wrong, this is your 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.920 prime opportunity to get to get sympathy and to get 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:18.600 attention from other people. Just just own it. Once you 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:21.600 do something wrong back, then you're just as bad, but 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.640 in a different on a different stage. Well, Dmitri, thank 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:27.360 you for asking me the same question in return. So 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:32.520 here's literally Leah, how about you? You're not allowed to breathe, Dmitri. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:34.600 I'm well aware that you asked me a question so 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.400 that you can answer and go ahead, what would you do? 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.800 You know, that's like when someone says, like you text someone, hey, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.160 how are you? But really you're just trying to get 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.199 the conversation going so you can talk about yourself anyway. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.640 Um Hey, Dmitri, Hey, how are you okay? So I 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.080 will say that this was not intentional and it's not 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.160 as weird or crazy at all as anyone would think. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:58.199 So I had suspected that my ex boyfriend was cheating 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.319 on me with multiple women around in the world, which 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:06.320 he was. It was a long story. So then there 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.680 was one day where he was in Mexico l O 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.559 L and he told me he was so tired. He 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.360 was working on set and I had so much thing 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.440 was like, oh, babe, I'm so sad for like, you know, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.800 you're you work so hard. You deserve sleep and you 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.040 deserve all the best things. You're so hard working. I 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.280 love you so much. And he's like, oh, I'm just 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.480 going from set to sit. Did he say sex to 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.680 sex or set to the set? L O L? Hurt 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.080 my feelings one more time? In Dmitri, I might just 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.000 cry about it, don't worry. I don't have any feelings left. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.640 Was it the antidepressants or is it the exhaustion? Who's 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:43.080 to say so. Then so then there was this girl 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:47.800 that he recently started following on Instagram. Um, at this time, 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.480 on Instagram, you could still see who liked too his photos, 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.800 so you were still able to you were still able 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.600 to stalk feeble that right, right, he was liking all 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.199 our photos. And then I saw that he had been 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.840 commenting all this extremely flirty stuff on her photos, and 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.120 he recently started following her. And then I saw that 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:13.320 they were musical music festival together and she was posting 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.000 like her eyes on him on her Instagram story and 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:21.520 all this sort of stuff very benign. So then he 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.120 came home and I asked him about her. I said, Hey, 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.720 what's something going on that girl? And he was like, 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:31.920 you're being crazy, nothing's going on with her. And she's 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.720 an old friend, Oh, an old friend that you just 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.800 happened to meet this weekend, someone you just started following 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.480 because she's such an old friend. Anyway, So then the 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:43.920 next weekend he's like he goes back to Mexico and 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:45.920 he was like, oh, I'm so tired and going set 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.800 to set again, and I have a little less sympathy 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.560 this time. And I see that she happens to be 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.200 on set from her Instagram stories because she's a little 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:02.280 cloud chaser. He was well known person. Okay, So then 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.840 I see in her Instagram story he was like, Babe, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.120 I can't make it back to America. I gotta shoot 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:11.040 this whole weekend. And I was like, that's okay, I 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:16.280 understand you're busy. Congratulations on being successful. I've seen her 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:21.520 Instagram story that they she actually let me reverse. He 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.079 flew to go see her in Guadalajara for the whole 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.280 weekend and she's instagramming the fun. You were still together 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.880 at this point. No, no, no. So once I saw 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:33.680 that there had been some questionable moments in the past 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.600 where I like blocked unblocked him, you know, went crazy. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.760 I was like, you're cheating on me and he was like, no, no, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:44.080 I just got um I caught something at the gym. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.760 I'm sure he did. I would rule that out either, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.240 and um, yeah, I caught something at the gym. So 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.480 I didn't. And I didn't want you to think I 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.400 was cheating on you with someone, so I didn't want 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.080 to tell you I was home. When I was home, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.360 you know, there's a lot of little white lies in there, 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.480 I think along the way white lies are just full 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.199 on lines. Anyway, more old story. So then I blocked 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.080 him on everything. And at this time, I'm basically living 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.880 with this guy. I had already moved out of my 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.400 apartment and I was just about to leave to go 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:25.960 to an event. So I had this is so random. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.520 I cut my hair, and I had intended to come 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.240 back to the apartment, but I never went back to 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:36.280 the apartment. And I left my hair, like my dead 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:42.720 hair all over the floor. So weird, like piles of 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:48.280 dead air everywhere. That's our social clip right there, no context, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.320 just I just left my dead hair all over the 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.200 floor like I left the DNA. We know who did it. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.160 It was me. It's my hair on the floor. Is 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.120 it's exactly the color of my hair because it's my hair, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.719 sure is. And um, I can only imagine since I 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.199 blocked him, he tried getting in touch with me a bunch. Uh, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:11.680 he came home and just saw my hair everywhere. Anyway. Um, 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.800 not to beat a dead hair. Still not as bad 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.120 as throwing an urn of of of mother his mother's 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.320 ashes and like, no, Dodd, Dodd, but it's not and 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.640 it wasn't even revenge, it was unintentional. I just couldn't 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:30.439 fathom the idea of going back there anyway. Um, So yeah, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.920 let's just move on. I think because I'm I think 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.760 I spent a lot of time talking about my ex boyfriend. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.120 I'm actually a little more nervous to hear what story 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.560 you might have that goes along with this next one. Sorry, 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.080 seeing the light fade from Dmitri's eyes the harrowing thing. 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:49.280 So this woman is arrested after they find dead cats 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.720 and two dead dogs and two dead cats that were 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.280 decomposed and kept inside cages and creates in her home. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.640 And she was the CEO of an animal rescue so 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.920 I think she I think she misinterpreted what that job entailed. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:09.120 Dear God. Apparently deputy has performed a welfare check at 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.679 her home, Caroline Pennington's house. She's forty seven. Uh, this 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.679 is May twenty second, So it does a couple of 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.320 weeks ago after receiving calls about a smell of death 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:24.160 at her house. Not even something weird's happening, the smell 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.800 of death. Who called this in? I don't know who 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.360 called it in, But I mean, obviously it must have 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.360 been a neighbor or something. But it's twisted. This woman 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.040 was the CEO of an animal rescue and somehow she 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:36.680 got thirty animals into her home and it says that 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:41.960 they died from um starvation and dehydration. So that that 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.400 was my point. Clearly, she doesn't know what that job entails. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.520 Where was she rescuing from them from if she brought 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.680 them home and left them to do, absolutely animal cruelty. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.640 But also, like, do you think that you would be 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.120 able to identify the smell of I think it's probably 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.280 a smell of like because people have reported like when 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.320 it's usually like a dead body or something. But people 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.280 people say, oh, it's just it's probably beyond a stench 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.440 that you've ever comprehended. So you're like, this has got 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.720 to be something bad. The other thing that's so odd 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.760 is that apparently they've been deceased for a while. How 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:16.000 did she live there? How did she physically live there? 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.040 Wouldn't you not be able to breathe? I'm guessing she 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.400 has some issues. She's not all there um clearly obviously 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:24.320 to do any of the stuff that she has done. 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.960 Um is sick and twisted, So it's a great question 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.960 how did she live there? But it's kind of like 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.640 who even needs an answer for that? Because if you're 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.400 able to do the first part, the second part doesn't 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.720 really the second part is not going to surprise. I mean, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.000 do you think she used her status as CEO and 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.720 director of the animal rescue called Growl to steal donations 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.040 meant for the care of animals? Mud? But what was 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.560 she even doing with that money? Like it appears it's 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.200 not as if she was taking care of herself or 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.200 her home or what was she using the money for? 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.680 Kind of confusing. I don't condone and scams like that, obviously, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.920 and especially not when you're harming animals. But I mean, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:07.880 this is gonna sound so think it through though. If 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.760 you're taking the money and you're taking me up, you're 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.640 just bringing them home and then leaving him dead and 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.520 you're in your house or your apartment, it doesn't it 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.920 a huge mental disconnect here obviously for many reasons, but 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.320 you couldn't even execute this. What do you think that 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.680 she'll get charged with? And do you think that she'll 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:27.280 file for mental owners I think that's what I think 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.720 that's the hip thing to do. The trendy thing to 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.840 do now is to is to say, oh, is mental 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.520 illness because we're probably not there to think of it, right, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.360 because maybe they do have a mental illness or they 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.520 obviously have some sort of mental illness to be able 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:43.480 to do something like this. But two then be like, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:46.200 you know, they get a lawyer, and a lawyer says, well, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:47.840 here's what we're gonna do, and that's where the whole 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.840 I just I understand that everybody deserves a lawyer, but 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.400 that's where this kind of stuff bothers me is because 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.120 don't come in and give them something that might get 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.160 them off, because they don't deserve to get off, and 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.200 they don't deserve to make up reasons why they can 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.280 get out of something. Just lay out the truth and 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.479 I let the jury decide. And guys, that was Dmitri 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:14.680 Pappus on getting off. I don't think that was the illegal. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.160 Uh all right. We don't have a lot of time 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.359 today because we have an incredible interview coming up, So 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.080 I just want to, do you mind if we just 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.640 run through this last story to me, because I think 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.359 it's we're leaving it on an upbeat. I think we 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:29.919 should do that before we were the guest. I think 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.840 let's let's have an upbeat story. And this is a 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.879 wild story because I just want to say good people 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.159 like this I think are rare. And it sounds like 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.760 this woman found got odd, which most of us need 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.400 to do. Let me listen. Okay, this so cold woman 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.880 finds thirty six thousand dollars in cash in cold art 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.840 cash hidden in her couch that she bought on craigslist. 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.000 Like okay, and here's what happens is in one of 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.240 the pillows. And she said she was never tempted to 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.680 keep what she found. She immediately returned the money to 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.520 the family who gave her the furniture. She said, God 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.399 has been kind to me and my children. They're all 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.480 alive and well I have been beautiful grandchildren. So what 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:12.280 can I ever ask of God? Yeah? Thirty six dollars? Okay? 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.720 So she said he was browsing online ads for new 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:20.359 furniture and she saw some free items free, so she 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.239 clicked on the first thing that came to mind that 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.679 the family wanted to give away was a sofa and 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.600 everything in their bedroom. And she said she thought it 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.680 was maybe a gimmick and it wasn't a gimmick. The 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.439 family just wanted to give away the furniture and explain 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.199 that a loved one had recently passed and that they 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.199 were just liquidating everything they owned. So the sofa and 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.800 the chair fit perfectly into her home, and when she 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.320 was inspecting them, she just found thirty six thousand dollars 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.000 of cash and envelopes. And when she returned the cash 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.000 to the family, they said that they had also found 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:54.360 other cash inside the house, but only a few hundred dollars, 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:57.000 which is I mean, this is all crazy. Also, I 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.840 just will say my Jewish grandmother did this as well. 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:03.480 She had money in books and in in pillow cases 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.920 and just like a whole bunch of interesting things like that. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.720 But anyway, as a thank you, they agreed to pay 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:15.240 for a new refrigerator for her and gave her very 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.760 I mean, if you found thirty six hundred dollars in 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:22.120 the second hand couch dollars, I think I'm I think 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:25.920 I'm I'm notifying the people, I honestly do. I think 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:27.680 one part of me would probably a little scared to 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:28.959 be like, do they know? And now they're gonna come 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:30.480 and get it at some point. So I'd like to 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.520 to take out the portion where they come breaking into 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.240 my house to take it back. Maybe they were hiding 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:38.320 it from someone and how to get it out of 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:39.800 the house. I don't want to be the target from 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.199 somebody else. But also, you know, I can't sit here 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:43.719 and preach that. I think people should do the right 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.080 thing more often. And I'd be like, oh, if I 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.240 found thirty six thou dollars in a couch where I 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.439 knew where the couch came from, if I got the 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.760 couch from like a second hand store, maybe it's different. 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.040 I probably hold on the money. I thought it was 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.480 drug money. That was my first thought, right, was that 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.639 this is dirty money, and that's so terrifying. My second 0:20:02.640 --> 0:20:06.000 thought was could I pay off my student loans in cash? 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.760 And the answer is no, not even close. But the 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.520 thing is so my My first and um, I'm know 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.520 we're gonna go because we have a guest, But my 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.040 thing is my first thing was like, you know what, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.680 who who hides thirty six thousand dollars and then forgets 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.959 like you sell a couch, whatever you do, you don't 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:23.320 remember you put it there. But then it said that 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.720 a lovel one had passed, so clearly the loved one 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.840 probably hit it there and they were just getting murder 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.600 of the furniture. So then I really do feel badly 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:32.919 for them, Yeah, of course. And it's like, you know, 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.399 the money and for the family. Do you think they 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.480 should have given her more money? I probably would have 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:43.480 given her, like I don't know, thousand dollars and you 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.360 get twenty two hundred and a new fridge. Oh, this 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.320 is like the prices, right, it is like the press, right, 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.359 the fridge and you get a fridge and you that's oprah. 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.679 I probably would have done five thousands. Yeah, I wouldn't 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.080 have that. That was the number that came to me 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.880