1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to an emergency edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: The long discussed, the long. 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: Rumored, the long debated trade Brendan Donovan has finally happened. 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Before we get to the details of that, let me 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: make a request. We put this at the top, but 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: if you like Cardinal Territory, we're gonna ask you to 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: go ahead and hit the subscribe button. We would like 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: to get to seven thousand subs, so if you like 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: what we do, then go ahead and hit the subscribe button. 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: As for the trade, twenty nine year old Brendan Donovan, 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: All Star Gold Glover career two eighty two hitter, plays 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: all over the field, goes to Seattle in a three 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: way deal with Tampa. The Cards get from Seattle top 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: one hundred prospect Gerangelo Singja pitcher twenty twenty four first 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: round pick out of Mississippi State. Throws right handed and 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: left handed. 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: Better is a. 18 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Righty and Seattle saw him purely really is a right 19 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: handed pitcher three point nine nine ERA over two levels 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: in the minor leagues last season. The Cards also get 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: from Seattle Tide Pete outfielder, just twenty years old, former 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: first round pick back in twenty twenty three nineteen homers 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: in High A last season. The Cards also get outfielder 24 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: Colton Ledbetter from Tampa and they get two come picks 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: in the deal. So let's talk about Brendan Donovan first. Okay, 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: you don't really want to part with that guy because 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: he has so much upsize. We already mentioned, you know, 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: all star gold glove guy, great in the room, as 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: they say. But if you're hind Bloom, you got to 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: make room for JJ Weatherhol and you're trying to stockpile 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: controlable young talent. 32 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: And he achieved that with this deal. Yeah, now you 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: look at it. You're here to get five prospects. You know, 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: obviously a prospect is a wait and see. You're looking 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: at a first round draft pick, you know, to outfielders 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: with some speed. I don't know where the hit tools 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: are at with either one of them. But like you said, 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: Donnie is a great clubhouse guy, a great just ballplayer. 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 2: He's one of those guys you can put anywhere in 40 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: the lineup, you know, anywhere on the field. He's going 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: to make winning plays and do the things that he 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: needs to do uh to be a productive player. Even 43 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: if he doesn't have his best game. So he's gonna 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 2: be missed in the clubhouse. He's going to be missed 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: on the field for the Cardinals. But you got you know, 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: you got five prospects back there, or well, you have 47 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: three prospects back with two of the compicks that you're 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: gonna wait and see on on how you can use those. 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: Maybe talk about that a little bit later of what 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: that gives the Cardinals some wiggle room in the upcoming draft. 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: And you know, you Donnie gets to go to a 52 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: chance where he gets, you know, a team that's going 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: for it, and he can kind of you know, get 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: get in a spot where you know he's playing for 55 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: something too, when you know that you're in a like 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: in a rebuild that you're in Saint Louis, so you 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: know it could be a win win for both sides. 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk about Changa, who seems to 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: be the prize jewel in all of this. Twenty two 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: year old with huge upside. And this is a guy 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: we see him throw from the right side. He's naturally 62 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: a lefter, a lefty grown up. He wanted to use 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: his dad's glove, so we threw from the right side. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, though, there was someone in a 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: podcast who was really, really smart who had identified this guy, 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: liked him a lot before anyone else did. Who could 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: that be? 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Who could that be? That was you? You went to 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: their last year's first runners, like this guy could be it? 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: I found interesting. The Mariners have a prospect, twenty two 71 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: year old Jerangelo Sinja, who is a switch pitcher, I 72 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: mean legitimately ach pitcher. Now we know change it is 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: gonna be from the right side, but everyone has you 74 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: know that's seen this guy pitch talks about his electric stuff. 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Why range of pitches can't do it from both sides? 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: But to get this guy, you know, one of their 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: top prospects, top one hundred in baseball. Uh kind of 78 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: adds to what Heim was hoping to do, is shot 79 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: file young, controllable pitching. This guy fills the bill. 80 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: No, yeah, it definitely does. It's gonna be It's gonna 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: be interesting to see. Are have they came out and 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: said that it's gonna be right? He only yet are 83 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 2: they to still try to switch the switch pitcher thing is? 84 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: I mean, there's gonna be a wait and see. 85 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna be way you see because Seattle said this 86 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: year they wanted to see him from the right side. 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: Only now, I'm sure the Cardinals haven't made that decision yet. 88 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Maybe they want to get him into camp and take 89 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: a look at him. But supposedly Vilo is good from 90 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: both sides. You know, he can ninety ninety four from 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: the left side, but he's much more powerful from the 92 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: right side, and you know, tick it up to ninety eight. 93 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: And maybe they look at that as just one less 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: thing to worry about. If you pick a side you 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: know pitching better than me. 96 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're picking set. And I think you're 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: also looking at his walk numbers, as walk numbers have 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: been over four point, you know, four batters per nine, 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: So that's a you know, that's a you know, one 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: side is better than the other. And this stuff plays 101 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: all indications I've gotten so far of everybody I've asked, Right, 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: he's way better. It plays way better. And then your 103 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: next thing is you're worried about the size. Is the 104 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: size is going to be able to hold up as 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: a starter over the course of a full season, or 106 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: is he more of a reliever body wise? And if 107 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: that's the case, he's more of a reliever, then maybe 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: you can make the switch pitching work. But if he's 109 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: going to be a starter, then it's going to be 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: probably a righty only. But if you want to use 111 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: the ability to be able to throw from both sides 112 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 2: and the stuff, maybe you can hone it in as 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: a reliever and actually be able to do it, or 114 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: maybe multiple winnings instead of hey, over the course of 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: a game you're going back and forth or something like that. 116 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough to do. But maybe one appearance 117 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: here or this way or that way as a reliever 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: could be doable as a switch pitcher. So you know, 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a wait and see how he's gonna mature. 120 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: You know, the frame is what it is. Was he 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: five to eleven, two hundred pounds, So you know, I'm 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: not saying that under six footer is gonna not that 123 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: can't hold up over the course of a big league season, 124 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: but I will say that it's a little easier the 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: bigger yard. 126 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm all for it for both SUPs because that 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: would be a lot of fun. But I think about 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: a guy like Mason Winn, who was legitimately a pitching prospect, 129 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: and they were talking about him pitching and also playing 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: shorts up. But it's very hard to get to the 131 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: major leagues, right, so sometimes keeping it simple is a 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: big plus. 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you want to hit and pitch, you 134 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: grow up in Japan and be able to do it 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: the whole life, and then you just bring it to 136 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: major league you don't even have to work it up 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: through the minor leagues. But yeah, I mean being a 138 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: position player, being a pitcher, there's a lot of things 139 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: that go into that day in and day out. And 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: then if also if you're working on your craft as 141 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: a as a rightyna left, he that you can throw 142 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: things in a rench. So he's got to figure out 143 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: what's his chance chances already get to the big leagues, 144 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: what's his best ability to stay healthy, where's his stuff play? 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: And that's for the you know, I think the Cardinals 146 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: obviously you're giving up a big piece in Donovan to 147 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: get him, and he's the you know, the the centerpiece 148 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: of your deal. So they should have a plan on 149 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: what they want to do with him and how they 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: see him ascending to the big leagues as fast as possible, 151 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: because like say, he's the first rounder, but he's a 152 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: college kid, so he should be more advanced and you 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: know on his way, you know, to be maybe even 154 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: to be a big leaguer at the end of the year. 155 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: That started next year. So what side of the player 156 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: or what side of the mountain of throwing on is 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: going to make that happen? And you know, and what's 158 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: it going to entail, whether it's starting or relieving. 159 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: So Pete a little younger, he's twenty drafted at a 160 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: high school, but a guy with a huge upside, an 161 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: athlete with a lot of power. He's only twenty nineteen 162 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: homers last year, also stole twenty five bases. A guy 163 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: who would first have thought maybe shortstop, but they liked 164 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: his athleticism and center field. I know he didn't hit 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: for average last year, but a lot of people with 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: very impressed with what this guy brings to the table lands. 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at speed and he's got he's got power. 168 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: Right the year before he hit like two sixty something. 169 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: So we've got to figure out how to combine those 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: two things. Be able to go for it when you 171 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: need to go for it, and then be able to 172 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: put the ball on the play because put the ball 173 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: in play and run because he's got the ability to 174 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: steal bases and do somethings. So you know, you know, 175 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: first second strike, go for it, get your best swing 176 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: off to your thing, but then be able to use 177 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: you put the ball and play, use your speed, do 178 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 2: your things like that. So and that comes with time 179 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: and the right people, you know, teaching him how to 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: do that and do the things that he needs to do. 181 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: And if you can play center field and run like 182 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: that he can, that could be a huge upside. And 183 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: like you said, nineteen home runs last year as a 184 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 2: twenty year old, you know, that could be a twenty 185 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: five home run center fielder in the right, you know, 186 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: right situation if we can get the swing and miss 187 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: down a little bit and get that batting average up 188 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: a little bit and use this wheels, you know, getting 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: on base. And hey, if you can hit twenty but 190 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: hit more doubles, put the ball and play a little 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 2: bit more, a single turns into a double because of 192 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: your speed. There's a lot of things still like there. 193 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm with you on that one. A 194 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: lot of upside young, but you know there's some raw 195 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: power there. But now we just need to make sure 196 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: to make some more contact, and then you know, I 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: think the glove plays anywhere you want to play it, 198 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: but centerfield seems to be the spot that people liking. 199 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: So if these prospects are powerball tickets, like you never 200 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: know which one's going to pay off, then coundle picks 201 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: I think are like scratch off tickets. But have a 202 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: couple of those in your pocket for a guy like 203 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: Don Bloom. That's that's a big plus, isn't it. 204 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the draft is done in so many 205 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: different ways. Now you have the slot system, but it 206 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: gives you a draft pool. I don't know what the 207 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: number is going to be connected to those two comp 208 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: picks and Whet. It's going to probably should be around 209 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: a million dollars or two million combining them, maybe a 210 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: little bit more. So that gives them two million dollars 211 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: more to spend in their draft pool, whether it's hey, 212 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: a guy slips in the first round and gets to them, 213 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: they can use that money there, or they can you know, 214 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: use you know, hey, we're going to load up on 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: our first three picks and our second, third round, fourth 216 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: rounders are just going to be senior signs, and we're 217 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: going to push all that money to our top three 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 2: picks to get as best biggest prospect as we can 219 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: maybe buy a kid, buy a kid out of college, 220 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: or you know a kid that slips because he is 221 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: a high school kid that wants more money, and now 222 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: you can push him. You know, he pushes down a 223 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: little bit and you're able to get add him a 224 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: little bit more money and give him over slot. So 225 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: very interesting pieces to be able to move there. But 226 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: those also are tradable pieces. As the year goes along, 227 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: maybe you sweeten a mid season trade because you're going 228 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 2: to have some guys that are you know, coming up 229 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: on the last year of arbitration or or you know, 230 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: our kind of ending in that spot before they get 231 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: their free agency, and you can maybe tack on one 232 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: of those picks and get a better prospect. And next 233 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: thing you know, it's like, hey, I use those as 234 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: to upgrade. And it's always about hey, how can I 235 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: get a little bit better wherever I'm at, so I 236 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: have the deep system when I'm ready to actually spend 237 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: money in free agency. 238 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: So if you're doing a build, a reset, rebuild, tearing 239 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: out whatever, you have all these materials now at your 240 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: disposals so you can build in whatever direction seems to 241 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: be the best fit for the ball club. I think 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: that's a great thing for for hind Bloom. Last thing, 243 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: because one of the things that we said before we 244 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: even started with this emergency addition was well they cleared way. 245 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: No one wanted to see Donny go because you're losing 246 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot, but they had to make a path for 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: JJ Weatherhol. I know we've talked about it before. Most 248 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: people feel second base the best position. 249 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: Boom. 250 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: This is also a clear a path for JJ, isn't it. 251 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: You'd say, yeah, But with Donovan being able to play 252 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: left field, I mean, now the question is who plays 253 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: left field? You know, is it going to be new 254 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: because you want Walker? Is it technically clearing a path 255 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: for Walker and Jj at the same time. So, and 256 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: if you look at it that way, and you're looking 257 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: at the build, you really need to know what you 258 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: have more so well with both of them. To be 259 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: honest with you, you know, you need to know what 260 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 2: you have with those two. You really need to know 261 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: what you have with Gorman. You really those three are 262 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: going to be what. JJ has got more of a leash, obviously, 263 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: but Gorman and Walker are going to It's their year 264 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: to say, hey, I'm a big leaguer every day, no 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: matter who's on the mound, righty, lefty, I am a 266 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: major leaguer and I can be successful. And now they're 267 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: going to get that opportunity because that opens up the 268 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: spot for both of them to play every day, in 269 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: my opinion, and then when you know, you can spare 270 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: them with you know, Segacier or you know, whatever you 271 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: need at times throughout the year. So I think it's 272 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: more so hey JJ, Yes, but it's Gorman and Walker 273 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: too that you say, hey, boys, you're in the lineup 274 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: every day. Whatever spot you want to put him in, 275 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: let him go. Same with Mason, you know, like you know, 276 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: if we talked about earlier, it's like, if you can 277 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: figure out these young kids, you're going to play this position, 278 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: You're going to hit in this spot in the lineup 279 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: every day because we want to give you the chance 280 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: to tell us you're a big leaguer and we can 281 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: build this thing around you. And I think that that's 282 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 2: a it's something that can go a long ways, especially 283 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: you know when you get when well, when you have 284 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 2: the opportunity. But they also are making that opportunity for 285 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: him so you really got to let them. You've got 286 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: to let them do it, or you're really just gonna 287 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: be looking at it next year like, well, what do 288 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: we have again? So now it's like, hey, here's our group, 289 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: let's see what we got and let's see where we 290 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: can go from them. And you have new and you 291 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: have and you have Herrera and then if Victor's in 292 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: center field, you have a pretty good defensive lineup all 293 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: the way around, and you have youth, and you have 294 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: a lot of different ways for the lineup to be 295 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: set in the ways that they can put the ball 296 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: in play. They can run a little bit, they can 297 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: have some power here, and it can you know, it 298 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: can cause some havoc and especially if they get comfortable 299 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: and they start finding their finding their groove. So that 300 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: being said, what you talked about earlier, let's see what 301 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: these minor league pitchers turn into. What do we you know, 302 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: what are we doing to make sure that they have 303 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: what they need in the minor leagues to be not 304 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: only be ready for the big leagues, but be ready 305 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: to be contributors at the big league level, not just stuff. 306 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: So I'm anxious to see what you know, I have 307 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: not seen or heard of any you know, pitching guru 308 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: that's been down there. You know, if you're just saying, hey, 309 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: we want you to chase these numbers and this and 310 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: that sabermetrically, you know, that's you know, we've seen that 311 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: when you get up to the big leagues, if you 312 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: just throw things down the middle and have no plan, 313 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: it gets you in trouble. And so there's a lot 314 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: of what and a lot of hey, let's see. And 315 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: when you have young prospects that are coming up, you 316 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: better have guys that know how to teach not only 317 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: the way to pitch, but how to get there and 318 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: also how to get out at the big league level. 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see what they have there. And all I've 320 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: seen is front office hires. I've not seen much of 321 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: the developmental hires of people that actually played the game. Well. 322 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully with all these opportunities out there, some guys make 323 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the most of it and then hopefully the season can 324 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: be a little fun to watch. Lance always a pleasure. 325 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and thanks to everyone for watching this 326 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: emergency edition of Cardinal Territory. 327 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: We'll see next time. Hopefully that edition won't suck.