1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: And with that Urban Meyer record setting big noon ratings, 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: things are going well in college football. You know, it's 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: funny urban nil transfer portal college football playoffs. Everybody freaked out. 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna hurt college football, and we keep breaking records. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: I thought the weekend was amazing. And one thing that 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: jumped out to me with Arch Manning, I mean, listen, 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: inexperienced Buckeyes are great. It's in Columbus, but urban You've 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: been coaching quarterbacks forever. It didn't look as much jitters. 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: It was mechanics, it was armslot. I thought it was 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: jar to look at. I thought he was a bit overwhelmed. 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: When you watched it, did you think it was more 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia environment Buckeye Secondary? Like, what went wrong? What 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: gave Arch in your opinion, the most trouble? 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: Well, the reality is that the quarterbacks get far too 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: much credit, far much, far too much blamed. There weren't 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: people open calling the Matt Patrician the bucket defense. I 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: don't want to say it was shot because they lost 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: five or six players and the coordinator and they look phenomenal. 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: But I went back Colin and I watched every snap 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: of arch Manny and I keep hearing about, you know, 28 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: potential first pick in the NFL draft, Heisman Trophy, and 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: I keep saying, stop this, that that's not fair to 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: this guy. This guy, if you put any other name 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: on the back of his jersey, let him grow as 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: a player. He'll be a much different player in four 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: to five weeks. See, he wasn't ready for that, But 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: either was Julian saying you can't be ready for that. 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: You know. 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: Someone said, well he started to get I said, know, 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: he didn't. This is his first start. When you're playing 38 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: in Mississippi State, it was not very good last year, 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: and another team that those don't count as you're starting 40 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: the horseshoe in front of, you know, millions of people 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: on TV. 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: So he'll be fine. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: I was a little disappointed with the offensive skill of Texas. 44 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: I didn't see guys open. I didn't see the explosive 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: them as you expect out of So there's a couple 46 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: of common denominators of a great quarterback, and they all 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 3: say it they got great players around them, and maybe 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: there are. 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: I didn't see that I did, and maybe you know. 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: Once again, we're going to find out more in the 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: next few weeks, really not in the next few weeks, 52 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: in about four or five weeks when they get in 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: the SEC because they both got Ohio State and Texas 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: have soft schedules. For a minute, but that the common 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: denominator is the great explosive player around arch. 56 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: I didn't see that, you. 57 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: Know, Sark said after the game. And I was told 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: this recently that in the college football, as a defensive coordinator, 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: stop the run, and if you do, you're going to 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: win a lot of games. In the NFL, as a 61 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you better stop the pass because almost every 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: team's got a guy that can sling it. So Matt 63 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Patricia has been dealing with the best quarterbacks in the world. 64 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Now he goes to college. When you looked at every snap, 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Sark said, it was elite. Did he disguise his coverage? 66 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Is what did you see about Matt Patricia's defense, that 67 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: could be problematic for a young quarterback. 68 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: I see multiple positions, so you see like a Caleb 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: Downs that can play will linebacker, he can play deep 70 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: half in the safety. And then they did a bunch 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: of the way he called simulated pressure, and the simulated 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: pressure is when they bring a linebacker or a secondary 73 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: player yet play zone behind it. Arch Mann, he's been 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: training as a quarterback, I imagine since he could say 75 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: hello because of the Manning family. And normally when you 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: get a five to six man pressure, there's gonna be 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: man coverage behind it, or there's gonna be avoided zones. 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: Ohio State did a brilliant job of bringing pressure, but 79 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: there were no There was actually seven people in coverage. 80 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: So it looked like pressure, it smelt like pressure. It 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: was pressure, but it was in a coverage. They were 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: dropping people underneath that were twice I caught, and like 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: I said, I went back and watched every step over 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: and over again. Arch got caught on one side of 85 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: the formation, thinking that it was a fire zone or 86 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: a fire zone or even a man coverage, and it wasn't. 87 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: It was too deep and he got caught and he 88 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: got sacked. So I've done any did a great job 89 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: mat Partrishaw. 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: So I was shocked because I think Kaylendi Boor is 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: an excellent coach. But I said that this week. I 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: said the sec is. I mean, you acknowledged you had 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: health issues. It's just tough. The intensity, the criticism, the 94 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: recruiting wars that art always for years and years on 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the up and up. It can eat up really good coaches. 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: And I think Kaylendi Boor is a great coach. But 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: something didn't look right urban They couldn't run that the effort. 98 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: Something didn't look right with Bama. Can you explain it? 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? And Kaylan Moore has been great to me. I 100 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: think his record speaks for himself. But he's you know, 101 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: he in it now. And I watched closely, you know, 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: mark Ingram's on our show, and we talk about it 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 3: all the time. When the word not running to the ball, 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: not giving great effort comes out of your mouth and 105 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 3: you say the word Alabama after that, that doesn't compute. 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: You know, that hasn't happened in a long time. And 107 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: I'm worried about Alabama right now. You know, I saw 108 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: things that are signs that there's something either in the 109 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: locker room, there's something you know. 110 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: And I made this comment on Big Neon. I believe 111 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: that he better have some grown ass men in that 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 4: locker room. Ryan Day. 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: When they lost to the wolver Raines last year, they 114 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: flipped it around, you know why, and everybody gives the 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: coach's credit. I get it, But in that locker room, 116 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: we're some grown ass men that weren't going to put 117 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: up with that. And I don't know Alabama well enough, 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: and I challenged mark Ingram with this, you know who's 119 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: in that locker room. 120 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 4: Because a coach is a coach. 121 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: I get it, but at some point those veteran and 122 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: I use the term grown ass men better show up 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: in that locker room and get that right. Coaches can't 124 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: get that right. Coaches do the best they can, but 125 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: the players play. 126 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I college coach and pro coaches, they're really different. 127 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: And a lot of it is just this is that, 128 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of NFL coaches, Andy Reid doesn't 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: have to draft. He can work play design. He didn't 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: have to worry about the cap, he didn't have to 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: about you know, play design, culture, play calling. Sometimes some 132 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: coaches don't do that. At the college level. You are 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: you are responsible for personnel, and I don't think there's 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of great coaches who are great at personnel. 135 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: You were Nick Saban was darned good. I think I 136 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: would say Jimmy Johnson was really good. I think Sean 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Payton's got a feel for it. I think Jim Harbaugh's 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a feel for it. But 139 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: I watched Belichick and my take is, okay, it's one 140 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 1: thing to lose, but his last several New England drafts 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: weren't good. I didn't see the pop players. I didn't 142 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: see it. Were you surprise on just the lack of 143 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: anything after the first drive? I mean, there wasn't a 144 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of offensive symmetry, there wasn't a lot of special players. 145 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: Were you just surprised at what you watched? 146 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: I think surprise is probably too light of a word, Colin, 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: I was shocked, you know. 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 5: I was. 149 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Because I'm friends with coach Belichick. I have the most 150 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: respectful him you can have. I used to visit the 151 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 3: Patriots and go watch him, So there's no better coach 152 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: I've ever been around at Bill Belichick, and he would 153 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: gracious enough come down speak to our teams and our staff. 154 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: But I turned on that and I couldn't. I don't 155 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: know he's up against it, you know, I'm not sure 156 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: he's I know he had some early in his career 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,559 Speaker 3: at Cleveland, which I really didn't study that, but maybe 158 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: the last few years in New England had some issues too. 159 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: But I can't imagine when he stands in the team 160 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: meeting and you're dealing with seventeen eighteen ninety year olds 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: there now being told, you know, should I leave, should 162 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: I stay? I can only imagine nonsense going on in 163 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: that locker room right now. So, uh, surprise is not 164 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: as strong enough word. When I know, and once again 165 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: I'll credit the TCU, but they're gonna have some tougher roads, 166 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: the tougher games down their OWD. Now, TC's great, but 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: there's also you got Clemson and Miami and some other 168 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: ones coming down the road that are really good. 169 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's wrap it up with this. I don't want 170 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: to go too crazy. And I know he was a 171 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: great high school quarterback, but Bryce Underwood at Michigan Urban, 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean I could have said he's great. That kid 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: that is different looking. What do you make of his talent. 174 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: I use the term of a four minutes ago about 175 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: grown ass man and I was shot. And I mean again, 176 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: surprise is not the right word, because I went back 177 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: and watched every snap in my god. I' mean that's 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: a junior in college and he's really not and his 179 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 3: his his physical presence is cam Newton ish, his size, 180 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: his athleticisms, throws, wow, I mean spectacular. And I know, 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: once again they're not playing a top ten team yet 182 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: and they will coming down the road here, but that 183 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: day one, he might be that guy that walks on 184 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 3: campus like when I had Percy Harvin. 185 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: You're just like, that's it. That's an absolute freak. You know. 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: Get him ready to play as fas as he can 187 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: because that and I've heard that about him. 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 4: I just now the assaulted person that's legit. 189 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just jumped off. Wherever you watch 190 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: that game, it was like magic. I mean, that is 191 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: a whip. He's got a big arm, he moves, his 192 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: accuracy doesn't dip when he moves. In Michigan, by the way, 193 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: does not have great receivers. He's not throwing to Ohio 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: State guys. This is a pretty average receiving corp yeah. 195 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: And he's almost like a Roethlisberger too, as far as 196 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: I mean, guys are hanging on him. You know, he's 197 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: a he's a big cat. 198 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Now Urban great talking to is always Yeah, great to 199 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: talk to Colin all right, Yeah, I know. Nobody thinks 200 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little hyper on that. And I said yesterday, 201 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Ohio State, I think is going to control this conference. 202 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I like am I like Oklahoma to beat him all 203 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: the juniors and seniors. It's in Norman. I like Oklahoma, 204 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: But man, there are sometimes you watch athletes and you're 205 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: just like, what is that? What is going on? All right? 206 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: We got Julian Edelman around the corner. 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Every week explore some amazing facts about human 217 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 6: nature and more. Listen to The Fifth with Ben Mather 218 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get 219 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 6: your podcast. 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I just saw do you have the Amari Cooper newsan? 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Did you see that? 222 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 7: No? 223 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm five time Pro bowler Amari Cooper just retired from 224 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders, leaving them with four receivers, Jacoby Myers and 225 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: three guys that I wouldn't recognize if they walked in 226 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: the studio. So so New England. Interesting, Well, they have 227 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: Brock Bowers. I like Chobe Myers. I think he's a 228 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: more of a two, but he's a good player. I 229 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: was surprised Belichick let him go. I like, so, Amari 230 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Cooper's young guy, isn't he? Like thirty one, ten thousand 231 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: receiving yards plus five Pro Bowls. He was always a 232 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: very quiet guy, like I always felt he was a 233 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: guy that taking care of business, put his money away, 234 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: had other things beyond you know, he never sought attention 235 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: even in Dallas. Just a grown up, just an adult. Yeah, 236 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: thirty one years old. Geez, that's good. Retired at thirty one. 237 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 5: More well for himself, Yeah, excellent wide receiver, no drama, 238 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 5: just fifetime Pro bowler. 239 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: Good receiver, had a good career. Yeah, jmak with a 240 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: news no turns. 241 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: This is the herd mind from one quiet, cool wide 242 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 5: receiver to a combative one. Tyreek Hill a lot of 243 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 5: drama with the Dolphins this offseason. Did you notice Tyreek 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: was not voted at captain by his teammates? All that 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 5: uh it says it won't change his ability to be 246 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 5: a leader for the Dolphins. 247 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 8: At the end of the day, I feel like this 248 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 8: is about the team and I don't need the title 249 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 8: to be able to read. 250 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna continue to push the standard. 251 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 8: You know what, coach, And he got the quishing in 252 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 8: the locker room in I'm all and I'm always been 253 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 8: a guy that that land by, that U by exactly, 254 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 8: so excuse me. That money captain thing is great, but 255 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 8: and I say I'm a the king. 256 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: He was doing a small thing. He's not a leader. 257 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: He's a talent, and there's a big difference. I always 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: said a Rod's a great baseball talent. Jeter, Mariano Rivera, 259 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: Jorge Pasada felt like leaders and that's not a knock. 260 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is a great talent. Do I 261 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: think he's the best leader. You know, Tyreek's a remarkable 262 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: wide receiver. But I'm not depending on him for anything 263 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: other than that. That's fine. 264 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on the of the belief he will not 265 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: last the full season in Miami. I think in the deadline, 266 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 5: somebody who's like maybe a fringe Super Bowl contender, says, 267 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 5: let's make a push, let's go get Tyreek Hill. 268 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: To try to put us over the top. He's still 269 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: got some juice. 270 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 5: I just can you control a personality like that who's 271 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: very strong? 272 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: You know if in the history of the league, I 273 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: mean Larry Fitzgerald's an outlier where you're the rock of 274 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: your franchise, the dependable, mature rock of the franchise is 275 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. It is a very you know, it's 276 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: the first guy to break the huddle. It is a 277 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: little bit of the NBA player on a football field. 278 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: You kind of work alone up the sideline. Those sideline 279 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: receivers they come, they want the ball, and you know, 280 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: I just I think that's a fairly reasonable prediction that 281 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: I could see at the trade deadline. If Miami losers 282 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: to the Colts, this weekend and they're you know, they're 283 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: under five hundred. I could see them saying, we need 284 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: draft picks. This is a reboot year. 285 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 5: He's not Antonio Brown, but Tom Brady recruited Antonio Brown 286 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: and then to the Bucks, they win the Super Bowl, 287 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 5: and then the next year. I think they were massive implosions. 288 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: So we'll see what Tyreek next. Up to college football 289 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: Colin where Bill Belichick is coming off, you know, kind 290 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: of an embarrassing loss in his debut kind of We 291 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: know Belichick had a big falling out with Craft before. 292 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: Taking the job. Well, how about this one. 293 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: According to your buddy John Middelkoff, Bill Belichick has reportedly 294 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: banned Patriots scouts from North Carolina practices. 295 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all. 296 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 5: Belichick has not addressed this yet. However, that's not a 297 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: good life for Belichick. If you're banning Patriots scouts just 298 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: because of your like, you you're hurting your players from 299 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 5: getting looked at. 300 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I just think there's such a reservoir of distrust and 301 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: dislike between Craft and Belichick. And I think that documentary 302 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: that I watched, was it this summer or was it 303 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: last year? I thatt the documentary that was very pro 304 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: craft anti Bill. I know a lot of Patriot fans, 305 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: but we have to be fair here is that Bill's 306 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: got some real debits when Tom Brady's not part of 307 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: his universe Cleveland pre Tom starting in New England, Tom 308 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: leaving in New England. That thing. Okay, Look, so does 309 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: this ding Belichick's legacy? Said I said yesterday, I don't 310 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: think Michael Jordan and Washington or or you know, Joe 311 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Namath end of his career. I don't think players. If 312 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: you're great, you're great. Same with actors. Marlon has three 313 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: or four bombs, He's still Marlon Brando. I think artists 314 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: can have bad albums and actors can have duds, and 315 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: I think players can Patrick Ewing wearing some Orlando Magic 316 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: jersey or Raptors jersey, whatever it was. That doesn't diing 317 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: your legacy. But when you just take one human, Tom 318 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: Brady out of Belichick's career, he's a great defensive mind 319 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: where the wins as a head coach, I don't see it. 320 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: Maybe we can ask our next guest when he shows up. 321 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: Final story, Colin, how about this one? Now this we. 322 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 5: Haven't talked to a lot of WNBA Kittlekark's. 323 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Been hurt forever. 324 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 5: But Angel Reese came out in an interview. Remember she's 325 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: in her second year in the WNBA, and this is 326 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 5: what she said. I'd like to be here, meaning in Chicago, 327 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 5: for my career, but if things don't pan out, obviously 328 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: I might have to move in a different direction and 329 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: do what's best for me. She later apologized, saying the 330 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: language was taken out of con but Colin, the damage 331 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 5: has been done. There are reports stemming in Chicago that 332 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 5: the locker room may not be repairable after Reese essentially 333 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: basically saying, my teammates aren't good enough. We need better players. Listen, 334 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 5: we've heard she is a good player, not a great 335 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: offensive player player, but hey, she's so good, why aren't 336 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 5: they better? Well, I just a solid young player in 337 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 5: the league. 338 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: How many games you know, it's interesting for all the 339 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's a there's a there's a unit 340 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: or a portion of the media that is very pro 341 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: w NBA to a fault, and then there's those of 342 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: us that are realistic. How many times have you watched 343 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: w NBA games since Caitlin Clark got hurt? Now, think 344 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: about this. It led our show last summer A bunch 345 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: oh I talked. I think I led with it six times. 346 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: I led with the w NBA, and I don't either way. 347 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: I talk about what I think is interesting. You noticed 348 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: I didn't talk about it this year. Stop because I 349 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: suddenly disliked the league. I thought it was growing. Anybody 350 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: that wants to argue this, you're off your rocker. Caitlin 351 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: Clark is the league. I don't know what the ratings are, 352 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: I haven't read them, but I know I last year 353 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: with Caitlyn Clark, I was I would if the game 354 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: was on, I would drive home making a point and 355 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: when's that game on? I would watch it on my phone. 356 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 5: Yeah cars, Yeah, I could listen, not watch I'm driving, 357 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 5: but you could listen to it in the car. 358 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: And that's just not happening. 359 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: Now. 360 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm tracking the Sparks a little bit out here. La 361 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: Sparks are kind of trying to put me. Angel Re 362 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: is a good player, but this idea, and I think 363 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: she is valuable as a counter punch, as a bit 364 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: of a college and pro rival to Caitlin Clark. But 365 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: for all the people that are hey, the growth of 366 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: the league, Caitlin Clark is this is Tiger on the tour. 367 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: There was a lot of other good golfers. Tiger was 368 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: getting people do a TV singularly. Let's remember outside of 369 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: the Masters or US Open. 370 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 5: Before the season, Angel Reese was like, yeah, we need 371 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 5: to hold out. 372 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: I need more money. This is unacceptable. 373 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 5: Now she's throwing her teammates under a bus, saying we're 374 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 5: not good enough. 375 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: Colin. 376 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 5: This is starting to not look and I know people 377 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 5: want to defend her. She's got a lot of followers 378 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 5: on IG. I think we just need to put things 379 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 5: in context with Angel Reese. Here, she's all about Angel Reese. 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 5: She don't care about the team. That's just real. 381 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: That's the reality. And her teammates are essentially saying that 382 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: J Mack with the News hot take, Well that's like that, 383 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: and thanks for stopping by. Well she has opinionators, she's 384 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: she's just fine. 385 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: Hey, be opinionated, okay, but be ready for the repercussions. 386 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: Colin when they come. I'm opinionated. I know when to 387 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: reel it in. 388 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 5: We're adults, and you know, sure, she's a young Listen. 389 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 5: If I were he's sitting here twenty five, you probably 390 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 5: would have. 391 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: Got rid of the r don't you think it's it's 392 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: year two for Michael Jordan he broke his foot and 393 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: he didn't play. And I've compared her, like Michael Jordan 394 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: came in and I remember it it was like wow, 395 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: bulls weren't great, but it was wow. Then year two 396 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: he gets hurt, he wanted to play, and Caitlin same thing. 397 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: It was wow, like changing TV ratings. Year two she 398 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: gets hurt. It is uh, It's just it's weird. And 399 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: the difference is or I should say another similarity is 400 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: one of the problems Michael had early was the physical 401 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: play that was allowed against him. The Pistons and the 402 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: Celtics were just leaning on him, beating him up. And 403 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: you know, Michael and his coaching staffs were complaining, you're 404 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: letting people get away with too much. So Michael started 405 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: putting on weight as his career extended, getting stronger. Is 406 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: Caitlin the big knock in the WNBA, because I think 407 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: they've done some things very well since Kaitlyn arrived. Is 408 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: the NBA's figured it out during the regular season, they 409 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: let you play when the playoffs started. In the NBA, 410 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: no excuse me. During the regular season, they call it close. 411 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: They want their stars to be protected. It's a long season. 412 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: Then the NBA gets to the playoffs and they let 413 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: them play. And it's physical, and we had some injuries, 414 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: but they let them play because physical basketball is more 415 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: appealing to fans. But the NBA understands, we want our 416 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: stars available for the playoffs. So the NBA calls a 417 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: much tighter game regular season, they blow the whistle and 418 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: there's been a criticism that the young refs called too much, 419 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: too much, but they keep their stars healthy so they're 420 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: ready to enter the playoffs. Then they just let it's 421 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: a free for all. The WNBA has not learned from him. 422 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: They let them just play. And so many injuries. 423 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 5: By the way, all these like I joke that it's 424 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 5: like prison rules in the WNB, like anything goes. 425 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: They're cheap show and players guards are complaining. They're like, 426 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. A bunch of stars have got hurt. I mean, 427 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: Sophie cunning Hand's on a star, but she's out for 428 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the season. There's been a lot of questionable hits that 429 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: have not really been refereed the way they should. Yeah, 430 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: Jordan was one hundred and ninety five pounds when he 431 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: got drafted then two point fifteen during the championship run, 432 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: he had to put on twenty pounds in the documentary, 433 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: like he had to get big. Lamar Jackson did that 434 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL A lot a lot of these young 435 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: skinny quarterbacks they put weight on. But the WNBA just 436 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: does not officiate the regular season, just let them go. 437 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, but everybody's binged up for the player. 438 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, their season is short, so you 439 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs very quickly. You'll want your stars. 440 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: So by the way, Greg Cosell was on earlier today 441 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: last hour and we were talking about Drake May and 442 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: I do think we've done this about four or five 443 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: years in row. Generally you can find a team in 444 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. I predicted Washington and Denver last year, rams 445 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: year before Vikings year before. You can see when teams 446 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: either get a better coach like New England Rabel, they 447 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: spend money in free agency, they have a young quarterback 448 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: getting better. I think the easiest prediction in the league 449 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: is New England will double their wins. That is the 450 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: easiest bet in the league. Last year I had Washington 451 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: making the playoffs. I thought Denver would double their wins 452 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: or come close to it. They were better than I thought. 453 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: But here was Greg Cosell on what he has seen 454 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: with Drake. 455 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 9: May Nate toughness in the pocket, and I don't think 456 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 9: you can teach that. I think the guys that are 457 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 9: willing to stand and deliver when there's people around them 458 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 9: and they know they're going to get hit, I'm not. 459 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: Sure you can teach that. 460 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: He's got that. 461 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 9: The other thing I'm not sure that you can teach 462 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 9: players is just a natural willingness to throw the ball 463 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 9: into tight windows. They see those throws as viable throws. 464 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: And that tells you how much confidence Drake may has 465 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: in Drake Man. With that, the former Patriot a great 466 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: twelve years in the NFL, three Super Bowl Championship rings 467 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: in an MVP by Buddy Julian Edelman, who's on Fox 468 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: NFL Kickoff Sundays on Fox Buddy. So, I mean in 469 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: the summers, you can go northeast, you talk to your buddies. 470 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to predict that New England's 471 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: going to have a little different tempo, a little more confidence. 472 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: Nothing against Jerrodd Male, but about half the coordinators don't 473 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: make it as head coaches predict what is the one 474 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: or two things that I will watch the Patriots and 475 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: it will be noticeably better. 476 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 7: I think the rhythm of their offense is going to 477 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 7: be noticely better. Having Josh McDaniel's paired with Drake May 478 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: is huge. 479 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Josh. 480 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 7: McDaniels brought Mac Jones, a pro bo BWL, a Pro 481 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 7: Bowl and the playoffs, and I think they have a 482 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 7: little more. They got more weapons this year. You know 483 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 7: the Trayvon Henderson draft pick. When I went to camp, 484 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 7: he stuck out like a sore thumb. This guy was 485 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 7: running James right White routes. I took James White a 486 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 7: long time to develop, like the first day I ever 487 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 7: seen him do it. And then he also his protection 488 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 7: plan is like lights out as well. He's a smart individual. 489 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 7: I think they got nucleus guys in this draft with 490 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 7: Will Campbell Trayvon, pair him up with Drake next year 491 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 7: from last year, and that's how you create long sustained 492 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 7: success is when you get these nucleus type guys. So 493 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 7: I think they're going to look like a competent football 494 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 7: team this year. 495 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you always said you thought Vrabel is one 496 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: of the smartest guys you ever played against. Her coach 497 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel. I think we look at him and because 498 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: he didn't work as a head coach, that immediately puts 499 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: a mark on you, a label on you. I interviewed 500 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: him a couple of times here on the set, really 501 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: really liked him. Take me inside of everybody. All the 502 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: great coordinators have a secret sauce, some communication, some details. 503 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: What's the thing Josh does all your years of playing 504 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: football that is just different. 505 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, he tapers the offense around the guys we have 506 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 7: in the locker room very well. If you watch like 507 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 7: we ran through the slot because we had good slots, 508 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 7: our offense ran through the slot and the tight end 509 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 7: because that's we had Gronk, we had Me, Danny, we 510 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 7: had We were slot in in tight end heavy, So that's. 511 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: How our offense looked. 512 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 7: You always see also with the Josh McDaniels offense, you 513 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 7: see you see a preparation that that I mean, I 514 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 7: don't know any other different BILLI oh was very similar. 515 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 7: But there's a preparation factor that anytime they go into 516 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 7: a game they have it's a game plan system. So 517 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 7: you're not playing the same offense every time you're playing, 518 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 7: you know, a different team, you're playing a different game 519 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 7: plan towards that specific game place. 520 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: New England's reputation. 521 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 7: Game plan type offensive coordinators. So you know, having smart, 522 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: tough football players in that system, which they're getting back 523 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 7: to getting through their drafts and through the free agencies. 524 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: That they brought in. 525 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 7: Having that pair with Josh allows you to have so 526 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 7: many different avenues of how you can call the game 527 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 7: and game plan against the team. 528 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: So when the Cowboys treated Micah Parsons, and I've been 529 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: saying this for years, I know he's great, but I 530 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: look at Philadelphia's roster and I look at Dallas's roster 531 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, you need players. And now they 532 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: have four total number one picks the next two years. 533 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: That could be four elite players if he hit on those. 534 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: When you let a star player walk, I remember belichicked 535 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: it a once. Was Seymour or Chandler Chandler Jones Seymour? 536 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: What does it do to a locker room? 537 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 7: Well, that's when you got to lean on the leaders, 538 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 7: and leaders have to go out and set the tempo 539 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 7: for how that that first workday after that that deal happens. 540 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: So I think. 541 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 7: Dak's gonna have a huge part in this. The leaders 542 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 7: in that locker room's going to are gonna have a 543 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 7: huge part in how they're going to deal with this. 544 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 7: And look, this could bring their team together, you know, 545 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 7: it could give them the US against the world mentality 546 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 7: where everyone's looking at them like, hey man, how did 547 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 7: you just trade Micah Parsons? 548 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Which I don't necessarily disagree with. 549 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 7: There was obviously a line in the sand between personal 550 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 7: and business that got crossed on one of the sides, 551 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 7: which we've all been in that situation. I don't know, 552 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 7: you know, hearing the story about Jerry talking to Micah 553 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 7: like that was kind of how things went. When I 554 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 7: was playing Bill used to corner me in the cafeteria 555 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 7: all the time where contract negotiations, and I would just 556 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 7: play dumb. I'm like, yeah, coach, I'm not going to 557 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 7: try to negotiate you. I would say, I leave this 558 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 7: to my agents. So there was something that happened there. 559 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 7: But if you look on this, you can't change unless 560 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 7: you change. And the Cowboys have been kind of in 561 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 7: this stalemate of who they've been because they're so top 562 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 7: heavy on how they're built. They have the highest paid receiver, 563 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 7: the highest paid player, the highest paid corner they got, 564 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: you know this guy, that guy. Everyone's getting paid, but 565 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: there's no middle class. We had a lot of success 566 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 7: in New England because we had the largest middle class 567 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 7: in the league, and maybe that's what this is gonna do. So, 568 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 7: you know, it seems to be a good deal for 569 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 7: the Packers because they're instantly gonna have defense a guy 570 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 7: that's an obvious problem. But this could be a good 571 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 7: thing for the Cowboys too, because maybe they're breaking the 572 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 7: mold of what they've been doing for the last five 573 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 7: six years and they can gain some good players out 574 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 7: of it. 575 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: So Mike is an interesting player. I was talking to 576 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: a coach about this and they talked about Mikey. He said, 577 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, people tried him at stack linebacker interior linebacker, 578 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: and he didn't have great instincts. He's just so damn athletic. 579 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: He's a splash player and so and he's a bit undersized. 580 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: But he goes to Green Bay and it is there's 581 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: an old saying in the NFL like seaball attack ball. 582 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: Some guy Hassan Reddick was like that. Hassan Reddick was 583 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bust early and all of 584 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: a sudden it was like move him outside and let 585 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: him go chase some guy. And Hassan had a great career. 586 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: So Micah is kind of a guy that sometimes Lawrence 587 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Taylor had this I'm just gonna go get the quarterback. 588 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to go pursue the ball. Is that disruptive 589 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: or in your career sometimes you just have a guy 590 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: that he is great at one thing and you let 591 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: him do the one thing. Do you think he changes 592 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the Packers defense dramatically or just picks up sacks? Is 593 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: he a Miles Garrett? I mean again, Teddy Bruski was 594 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: so many things. Yeah, Micah is just seaball and blow 595 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: it up. Does he change the Packers? 596 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 7: I think he does because of that flexibility of being 597 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 7: able to move spots. Now, the Cowboys kept him on 598 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 7: the edge because they needed the production they weren't getting 599 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 7: out of anyone else. So you pair him with the 600 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 7: young packer that they have, who's the other edge guy. 601 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 7: He's a really good football player. You got two guys 602 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 7: that are doing some coolest things. And I heard Greg 603 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 7: Cosel say that they lead the league in the stunt. 604 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 7: So the stunt game is going to be insane. I 605 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 7: do think he brings instant power and instant defense, and 606 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 7: instant potential turnovers and instant you know, make your corners 607 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 7: better because that quarterback is always going to have to 608 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 7: think about that he's going to increase the number of hurries. 609 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 7: He's gonna increase a whole lot of things. He's gonna 610 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 7: you're gonna have to game plan for him. That that 611 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 7: takes time out of the offensive coordinator's day on what 612 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 7: we're gonna. 613 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: Do as a team. 614 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 7: We got to think about how we're gonna block this 615 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 7: guy because he can ruin the day. 616 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: That's the game plan now. 617 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 7: So I think there's a lot of great things that 618 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 7: he brings. And I think that the only reason he 619 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 7: played on the edge and with the Cowboys because that's 620 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 7: where his production was coming. 621 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: Did you do who was a guy when you went 622 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: into a game planned early the week? Do you remember 623 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: there being a Micah Parsons like players. 624 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 7: JJA JJA if anytime we played Houston a lot. We 625 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 7: played him in that first round and the number one 626 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 7: key to that game us we got to block JJ 627 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 7: Watt ninety nine. If we don't get him, we're losing 628 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: the game. That is the game, and that's what we did. 629 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 7: And because of Josh McDaniel's getting back to his play 630 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 7: calling style, having a younger offensive line, knowing where the 631 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: offensive lines may be a little deficient, you can switch 632 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 7: how you protect on those guys. You double them from 633 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 7: five different areas. This guy's got a pair dublin him. 634 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 7: They're going to double for this side. They're going to 635 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 7: do this, So you know, I think JJ Watt was 636 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 7: a guy that we always had the game plan for. 637 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: More Julian Edelman live in La. It's the Herd. 638 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: One More Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 639 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd 640 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. 641 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton, a reporter, says, going to be raining throughout 642 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: the game tonight in Philadelphia, sloppy, ugly. That means run 643 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: game at a premium. Now, that may lower the score, 644 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: but Philadelphia's got the better online, the super start running back, 645 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the better quarterback, the better everything. So expect Philadelphia to Uh, 646 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: it'll be a fast game. Run them all. 647 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 7: It's gonna be a fast I think this whole Micah 648 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 7: Parsons trade could ignite the Cowboys maybe, Like I said earlier, 649 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 7: you get them on fire, right, them on fire, where 650 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 7: they're like it's us against the world. I mean, they 651 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 7: still have some good football players. They they're still pros. 652 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 7: They're all getting paid. It's not going to be just 653 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 7: a walk in the park for Philly. It's a division 654 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: opponent opening night. These guys know each other inside now, 655 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 7: they've been playing against each others and. 656 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 10: What Schottenneimber, he's been there. So I don't know, we'll 657 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 10: see very positive spin. Okay, so Patrick Mahomes. Players vote 658 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 10: for the top one hundred players in the league. 659 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Mahomes was voted number five, despite he did 660 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: have a down season statistically. So let's start with this. 661 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: What was your take on him being only number five. 662 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 7: I think it's crazy. I still think he's number one. 663 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 7: I think our arguably last year was his best season. 664 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 7: They were back to back champions. He went twelve or 665 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 7: where they go fifteen to two, they go to the 666 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 7: Super Bowl and lose in terrible fashion. But we've never 667 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 7: seen a team get to the super Bowl after going 668 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 7: back to back. He had a roll of dex of 669 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: receivers all year long, guys that are hurt, still winning 670 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 7: football games, fan aid offensive line by the end, still 671 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 7: winning football games. And they're in this pocket now where 672 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 7: they know how to win and they can learn their 673 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 7: team through September and October and get themselves ready for 674 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 7: that January run. So you know, we all talk about 675 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 7: a lot of these other quarterbacks, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, 676 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 7: which they're very unbelievable football players, but they still haven't 677 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 7: made the play to get to the super Bowl. We've 678 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 7: seen Lamar Jackson season and twice three times on Blitz zero. 679 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 7: Still hasn't found a way to beat that. Josh Allen 680 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 7: still can't make to play when the team needs the 681 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 7: push push they lose against that. We've seen over and over, 682 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 7: including last year Patrick Mahomes go make a third down 683 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 7: when his team needed it and he didn't have anyone 684 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 7: to throw it to. 685 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: So this year they don't have her she Rice until 686 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: week seven, which. 687 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 7: They don't need him until January. Okay, that's where they're 688 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 7: at in their season. That's where they're at in their 689 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 7: their window or what everyone wants to say. They know 690 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 7: how to win ball games. They need to play their 691 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 7: best football at the end of the year. They need 692 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 7: to be their healthiest at the end of the year. 693 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 7: And this could be the best thing for Rashi Rice 694 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 7: to go out and come six weeks later, because now 695 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 7: Patrick's got to learn to throw to a new guy, 696 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 7: and then they get to rapport with another guy, because 697 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 7: we've seen that rapport with Rice, right, We've seen that 698 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 7: being developed over these last three years. So sometimes I 699 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 7: always would think, and the Patriots would always think, when 700 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 7: I would be hurt or Gronk would be hurt. It 701 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 7: trains these quarterbacks to learn new guys. The way I 702 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 7: got Tom's chemistry and trust was when he had no 703 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 7: reason too, because we got rid of you know, Welker 704 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 7: and Amondola got hurt. So then it forces the quarterback 705 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 7: to learn how to to throw to other guys and 706 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 7: that could help the team. 707 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: So so if in your I don't know, did Brady 708 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: Brady didn't know was win number one? 709 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 7: No, he didn't, and that motivated him really. Yeah, he 710 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 7: would get you know, he would get really mad about that. 711 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 7: He would sit in the locker room and you know, 712 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 7: he wouldn't show it to a lot of guys, but 713 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 7: he would you know, there would be a comment here 714 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 7: there about you know, number three, that's you know, that's 715 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 7: be you know in that I kicked them. 716 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: Along going jewels number three, Yeah, something like that. 717 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 7: But the same could be said with how Patrick could 718 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 7: handle that this being number five. I mean, you don't 719 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 7: think this is going to motivate Patrick Mahomes, who doesn't 720 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 7: really need any motivation already has three Super Bowls, been 721 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 7: to four straight supers whatever. I mean, He's got all 722 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 7: the everything and are still talking about other guys that 723 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 7: are better than them. 724 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy to me. So when you listen, Caleb Williams 725 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: is fascinating because you can see the horsepower, you can 726 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: see the talent. There are some quarterbacks you watch and 727 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: you're like, I don't really you know, like some guys 728 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: are small, some guys are limited. When you watch Caleb, 729 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: you got to be blind not to see the horsepower. Yeah, 730 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Forget the stats because my 731 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: take is my eyes will tell me if it's working. 732 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 7: I'm looking to not see the horsepower. I don't want 733 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 7: to see the horsepower. I want to see him football operationally. 734 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 7: I've just watched some of the sideline talks about, you know, 735 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 7: Ben Johnson and his football operation being able to communicate 736 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 7: a play, being able to tell the team the personnel group, 737 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 7: being able to get to the line of scrimmage, take 738 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 7: a look at the defense, take a look at the front, 739 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 7: take a look at you know, where your receivers at, 740 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 7: being able to handle all that. If he could do that, 741 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 7: that that's when we will start to see, you know, 742 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 7: a rhythmatic type offense, and that's what we want to 743 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 7: I want to see more Jared Goff out of kleb Okay. 744 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 7: I want to see more Jared Goff. And then once 745 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 7: he knows how to run this offense operationally, because they're 746 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 7: going to be schemed open throws, there's gonna be a 747 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 7: good rhythm matter. 748 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: Ben's offense is great with the primary. 749 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 7: Receiving great, but I want to see him go out 750 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 7: and not show his flashy stuff, get rid of the football, 751 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 7: stay on time. And when he does that for six 752 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 7: to seven weeks and he gets comfortable in this system, 753 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 7: then then you could see the one, two, three plays 754 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 7: where you're like, all right, that's why he was the 755 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 7: number one pick. Look at Josh Allen, look at Patrick Mahomes. 756 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 7: These guys don't do this every single play. They're sitting 757 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 7: there and they're operationally getting the right play called. So 758 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 7: their offense sees the right play against the right defense, 759 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 7: and that's quarterbacking. 760 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Be more brock Purty. 761 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 7: Okay, we all give brock Purty a you know, a 762 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 7: big no no because of the system and everything, and 763 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 7: he's not that good, but we never see his team 764 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 7: at the line of scrimmage fumbling to get the playoff. 765 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 7: They're there with twenty seconds, so he can sit and 766 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 7: communicate to Kyle Shanahan for the next five seconds to 767 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 7: get the right play called, and then they get the 768 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 7: right play called, and then they're going. 769 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Well. J. Mack thinks the Niners are being disrespected to you, 770 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: I believe you know what, Yes, I do. 771 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 7: They're going under the radar and they were just in 772 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. They still 773 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 7: have a Pro Bowl tight end Kittle, they have really 774 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 7: good defense Fred Warner Bosa, and Brock Purdy has shown 775 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 7: time in and time again that he can make a 776 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 7: throw when his team needs it. 777 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Jmax all over him. I think Seattle is 778 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: my dark horse team. New England will double their wins. 779 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Seattle's the dark horse team in the League's somebody who 780 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: was with a great coach. Come on, Shanahan. 781 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a really good I agree, it's hard to 782 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 7: go against mcveah. Hey, but the back scares me. I 783 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 7: saw a grunk, the most dominant human. 784 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: Being in the world, reduced to to not. 785 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 7: Being able to walk after he fell because of his back. 786 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 7: That's scary. No, that's scary. 787 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: He thirty seven, Julian Edelman Urban meyerstop by Greg Colesell 788 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: Rock and Show, Rainy and Philly will be watching and 789 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. It's the hurt that's gone