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Speaker 1: We've all heard the same offense wins games, defense wins championships. Well,

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Speaker 1: defense is winning games. To begin twenty twenty five, it's

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Speaker 1: another victory. Monday Bird Gang got Paul Calvicy with me.

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Speaker 1: He was field level for Sunday's home opener. A game

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Speaker 1: that's swell, if we're being honest, was closer than it

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Speaker 1: needed to be. Let's dive in. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode nine four, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Wooda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: So where do you want to begin? First?

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Speaker 2: Paul?

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Speaker 1: Is it how the game started and the twenty seven

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Speaker 1: finish down the stretch and which for the second straight week,

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Speaker 1: the defense comes up with the game saving play. It's

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Speaker 1: almost like we can be having the same conversation we

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Speaker 1: did one week ago after the win over the New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Now it's after the win over the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Did the Cardinals play a doubleheader? Because it does feel

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Speaker 3: like two different games. And as evidence, Craig, you can

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Speaker 3: look at you can look at my game log here,

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Speaker 3: the old reporter's notebook, Okay, And the players give me

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Speaker 3: You can relate to that with your handwriting. And if

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Speaker 3: you look at it's pretty orderly here the first three quarters,

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Speaker 3: the finish. The start was glorious and at twenty seven

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Speaker 3: on momentum two off seasons ago, but according to Klaius

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Speaker 1: Players believe in momentum. The head coach, Jonathan Ginnon does

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Speaker 1: last time the Cardinals made the playoffs. But you bring

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Speaker 1: peel the curtain back a little bit here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two, the Cardinals locker room show, and how Paul

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Speaker 3: So when you responded, and I'm glad you said that, Craig,

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Speaker 3: But when I text you, hey, anything I'm missing, you

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Speaker 3: Rocky right, you know, he he doesn't is dating yourself.

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Speaker 3: Pat he doesn't know it's a show. He thinks it's

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Speaker 3: the postgame guests can sit down and answer questions.

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Speaker 1: Are you responsible for that share each week or does

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I don't know when it started.

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Speaker 1: All right, paint the picture for us here on Cardinals

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Speaker 3: Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Tredd easy, is kalayas still eye level? Okay? No,

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Speaker 3: see because this just in Kalaius Campbell was miked up.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, that's a little breaking news. I was

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be I mean, you thought the week

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Speaker 3: and you know what, they'll be replaying that micd up,

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Speaker 1: This bodes well for us in house on Asycardinals dot

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Speaker 1: Com because if you get miked up now, Buddha Baker,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be the star, Who's going to make

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Speaker 1: we're two for two so far in this miked up segment.

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Speaker 3: You're right, there's a great track record right now, some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good tease ahead Azycardinals dot Com

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Speaker 1: you alluded to it seventy seven plays run by the

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Speaker 1: second straight week, seventy seven plays but eighty five snaps.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Can you say veteran day off? Kalais is gonna

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Speaker 3: have some company this week? When who was a Buddha?

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Speaker 1: JT and Mac Wilson all played one hundred percent of

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Speaker 3: your arm and you wouldn't feel it. I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: used to three hundred pounders, you know, hitting you from

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Speaker 3: everyone angle. I mean a Measley little you know football,

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Speaker 3: the duke glances off your arm. You probably didn't even

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Speaker 3: feel it or notice it, and then all of a sudden,

436
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Speaker 3: it's a hot football. And yeah, that was look two

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Speaker 3: and zero. There's a lot of film to teach from

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Speaker 3: AQ said this as well, Bruce arians was among the

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Speaker 3: best ever. Yeah, big win, no plaudits. All right, we'll

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Speaker 3: give you. I'll give you a few hours to celebrate

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Speaker 3: that win. Look at all it needs to be cleaned up.

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Speaker 3: So's there's no lack of teaching moments and stuff to

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Speaker 3: clean up. Especially now, everyone's attention should be first and foremost.

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Speaker 3: You have two division games straight ahead. You know the

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Speaker 3: Niners are coming for blood. You swept them last year,

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Speaker 3: and now the Niners are touting, oh, the last four

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Speaker 3: times the Niners have been two, and oh they've gone

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Speaker 3: to the NFC Championship Game and or the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So now, all of a sudden, forty nine Er nation

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Speaker 3: is feeling itself and smelling itself. So okay, you own

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. Dang near in Santa Clara at

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Speaker 3: Levi Ey's. There's only one team that would have won

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Speaker 3: that game a year ago when it was a buck eleven. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I said a buck eleven. There's a San Francisco Chronicle

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Speaker 3: photographer who got a picture of the on field thermometer.

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Speaker 1: I still don't what you're talking about. The game book

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Speaker 1: said eighty three degrees exactly. Powerpol of incompetence. I think

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Speaker 1: in honor of the forty nine Ers, road game is

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Speaker 1: going to return this week on Cardinals Underground. Note to self,

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Speaker 1: So look and mac Jones was surprisingly effective. Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: has coached him up. They won without George Kittle, they

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Speaker 1: moved the football, Christian McCaffrey is still a dude. And

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Speaker 1: so all that combined, I'm guessing. I'm guessing that it's

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Speaker 1: going to have the attention to the locker room between

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Speaker 1: the coaches and the opponent. Defense needs to play better,

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Speaker 1: needs to get off the field on third down, especially

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Speaker 1: on fourth down. The offense, let's turn our attention to

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Second straight week, the offense

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Speaker 1: accounts for twenty points. Remember the Zavion Collins Fumbill recovery

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Speaker 1: in the end zone got the Cardinals to twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: but twenty points and for the second eight week less

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Speaker 1: than three hundred total yards NFL research. Not sure if

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Speaker 1: you knew or saw this little nugget, Paul. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: joined the twenty twenty four Steelers as the only team

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Speaker 1: since two thousand to start two to oh despite having

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Speaker 1: under three hundred total yards of offense in each game.

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Speaker 1: What since when only a second team since when two thousand,

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Speaker 1: two thousand. So that's a large sample size, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so once again it is evidence that Okay, you

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Speaker 3: can look at this two different ways. A man, I'm

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Speaker 3: really bullish on the Cardinals. Now they found a way

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Speaker 3: to win two games or two and oh, and the

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Speaker 3: offense hasn't even come close to hitting its stride to

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Speaker 3: getting in gear. Or is that reality? Do you look

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Speaker 3: at those first two weeks and realize, okay, film doesn't lie.

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Speaker 3: That was that was Dave Canalis going into this game.

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Speaker 3: The film is the truth. That was his message to

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Speaker 3: Carolina coming off the Jacksonville loss. And so now all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you have a Cardinals pass game that's

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Speaker 3: been a bit inconsistent, and then you have a run

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Speaker 3: game that has not reached the zenith that hit the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years. Correct as a rush offense that

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Speaker 3: has been number two in yards per carry two years

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Speaker 3: in a row. You have not seen that same caliber

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Speaker 3: of run game. So what is it? Is it trying

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Speaker 3: to cram it vertical some more between the tackles. I'll

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Speaker 3: say this Calvici consulting the poly Pixian division. If you're

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Speaker 3: asking me what I'd love to see, especially considering the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, there is no one more amped when

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Speaker 3: it comes to a forty nine ers game than James Connor.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. He'll never tell us.

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Speaker 3: There's something poisonal, a little bit, a little bet, a

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Speaker 3: little bit personal with James Connor in the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: And there were moments in the second half where James Connor,

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Speaker 3: in fact on the touchdown drive that made it twenty

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Speaker 3: seven to three, where James Connor was getting fed and

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Speaker 3: he was running the ball and he was reacting and

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Speaker 3: emoting towards the Cardinal's sideline. We said at Craig, He's

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Speaker 3: not just a player, he's a mindset. He's a mentality.

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Speaker 1: And I would love.

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Speaker 3: To see the Cardinals feed James Connor, feed him between

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Speaker 3: the tackles, try and wear down the defensive front. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they have Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and company. I

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Speaker 3: get it, But James Connor, to me, is the path

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Speaker 3: to restoring this offense.

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Speaker 1: If you want to unlock, unlock the pass game, you

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Speaker 1: have to get the run game going, and you have

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Speaker 1: not seen it with a running back. I'm not discounting

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's involvement in this, but take away what Kyler

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Speaker 1: does and on Sunday running backs meaning James and Trey

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Speaker 1: Benson accounted for just forty eight rushing yards. Not good enough. Now,

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Speaker 1: the conversation on Cardinal Talk certainly center around the play color.

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Speaker 1: People are done with Drew Petsing. Okay, it's two games

524
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Speaker 1: into the season and you're two and zero, so let's

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Speaker 1: pump the brakes on that. There's the coaches, coach, players play.

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Speaker 1: It's the is it a good play call? Or was

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Speaker 1: they play not executed properly? So I can't pin it

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Speaker 1: on one individual when you have eleven guys on the

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Speaker 1: field who might not all be doing what they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing. The other aspect in this conversation is

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Speaker 1: something that AQ brought up, Jody brought up as well,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. More penalties on the od line than

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Speaker 1: we've heard called in years past. Plus there's a new

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Speaker 1: voice in that room, justin Fryes, your offensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: Does that make that much of a difference. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you. I'm not in there, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: what is being taught coached versus what Clayton Adams did

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Speaker 1: his first two years here with JAG But there is

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Speaker 1: obviously something going on in that run game that is

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Speaker 1: preventing the Cardinals to do what they want to do

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Speaker 1: throwing the football. And everyone is pointing to Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior and his numbers. Well, Trey's numbers are down as well. Again,

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Speaker 1: you unlocked the run game, you unlock this offense. Stay

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Speaker 1: on the field. The defense saw seventy seven plays, eighty

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Speaker 1: five snaps. The offense ran forty eight plays, second fewest

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Speaker 1: in the JG era forty eight offensive plays. You can't

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Speaker 1: get everyone involved when you're only utilizing forty eight plays.

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Speaker 1: That's why everyone's numbers were down on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So Clayton Adams, that's an interesting observation. He turned run

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Speaker 3: game coordinator, offensive line coach into a promotion. He is

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Speaker 3: now the offensive coordinator with the Dallas Cowboys, ostensibly because

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Speaker 3: they wanted to restore their run game, which they really

553
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Speaker 3: have not had since premier Zeke Elliott, and so they

554
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Speaker 3: hired Clayton Adams. So is the Cardinals run game now

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Speaker 3: still a working progress? Is this a process because of

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Speaker 3: the change in maybe the leadership and or the philosophy

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Speaker 3: in the run game is the run game philosophy state

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Speaker 3: exactly the same? These are valid questions. I don't know

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Speaker 3: the answer to it. I don't consider at this point,

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Speaker 3: believe it or not it to be, you know, five

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Speaker 3: alarm fire, certainly not costing anyone their job when they're

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Speaker 3: two and ozer and the way things have by the way.

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Speaker 1: Ball, I invite you to join us on Cardinal Talk

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00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: after one of these home games. Just come on, pop

565
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: up and enjoy some of what I handle on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We're gonna have a competition to

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Speaker 3: find the best play caller on Madden because you think

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Speaker 3: you can call plays because you play Madden. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so then we'll get the best Madden play caller

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Speaker 3: out there. And then guess what, you know, next preseason,

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Speaker 3: we'll let you call the fourth quarter of the final

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Speaker 3: preseason game. How about that is a nice marketing promotion.

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Speaker 1: I would be down for that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: jag or Drew Petsing went, but hey, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: week sixteen seventeen, you've locked up the NFC West and

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Speaker 1: the number one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we got a game to throw a Now,

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Speaker 3: let's get real, okay, because that was the lie detector

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Speaker 3: went off on that last comment. Does the offensive line

581
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Speaker 3: be a little more dominant? Do we need to see

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Speaker 3: more out of the offensive line coming off the ball,

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Speaker 3: owning the line of scrimmage in the trenches? Derek Brown.

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Speaker 3: I one of the first things I did. I went

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Speaker 3: to the box score. Derek Brown emmy tackles? He only

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Speaker 3: had three. Well, that's a case study in how a

587
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Speaker 3: disruptive three technique can wreck a game plan. I don't

588
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Speaker 3: know how many times that the broadcast called his name.

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Speaker 3: Derek Brown was a headache. He was a problem. You

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Speaker 3: could only hope that Walter Nolan will turn into a

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Speaker 3: Derek Brown because that would do a lot to elevate this.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when when does Walter Nolan do? We

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Speaker 3: don't really know anything. He's got to miss at least

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Speaker 3: the first four weeks because if and I know that,

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Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, does anyone expect him back in week five?

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Speaker 3: We have no idea, do we I would not expect

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Speaker 3: it because you can't practice until the four weeks are up.

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Speaker 3: So he's going to remember, Paul, he's not done anything

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Speaker 3: since July he was not a part of training camp

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Speaker 3: at all, so he's gonna need at least My guess

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Speaker 3: is two weeks, maybe even the full three weeks of

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Speaker 3: practice before you even consider putting him.

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Speaker 1: On the field.

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Speaker 3: And went in doubt at another week. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: say post by. I'm gonna say post by with Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 3: But if you're ridiculously banged up in the secondary, then

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Speaker 3: guess what You're gonna have to win games with your

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Speaker 3: defensive front. So that's looking ahead to the second half

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Speaker 3: of the season. By this Cardinals offensive line, Will Hernandez,

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Speaker 3: What would Will Hernandez do for this offensive line? Based

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Speaker 3: on what I've seen, it would be an improvement. It

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Speaker 3: really would. The attitude, the movement that he gets off

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Speaker 3: the ball paving the way. Now, whether he would track

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Speaker 3: for right guard or left guard, I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: and maybe it wasn't preordained. Maybe it's going to be

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Speaker 3: based on the first two games of game film. All

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Speaker 3: I know is if Will Hernandez was to return this

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Speaker 3: week for the forty nine Ers game, that would make

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense. And there's been a slow uptick

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Speaker 3: in improvement and his status and so if you're saying

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Speaker 3: wil Rinendez might be out there on the field in

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Speaker 3: Santa Clara. I would not be shocked. Now, maybe it's

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Speaker 3: more likely the Thursday night game against Seattle. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: because you know, can you have them play Week three

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Speaker 3: and then come back in four days and play Week four?

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Speaker 3: That would be tough. So maybe you just hit the

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Speaker 3: default button, just kick it to week four. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but you know about the Niners defensive front, and now

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know it's imperative that the

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Speaker 3: offense carries its weight. If the defensive secondary is banged

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Speaker 3: up and you're down to your fifth and six cornerbacks

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, guess what you might have to win a shootout?

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Speaker 1: Can this offense do what we saw how they ended

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Speaker 1: the first half, how they begin the second half. Because

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Speaker 1: your conversation postgame on the Cardinals' Locker Room Show with

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Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, I mean, you could not have asked for

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Speaker 1: a better drive to end the first half, in which

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Speaker 1: there was a third and four converted by Trey Benson

639
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: twelve yard catch and then Michael Wilson eleven yard catch

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Speaker 1: and then coming out of the locker room even with

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Speaker 1: a Paris Johnson ineligible man downfield penalty, Cardinals go nine plays,

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Speaker 1: seventy one yards, convert on third and goal. John gains

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Speaker 1: in there at full back, Coving beat them, checks in

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Speaker 1: as an extra offensive lineman, and James Connor finds the

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Speaker 1: end zone two yards and a score. So you score

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Speaker 1: going into the locker room. Score coming out of the

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Speaker 1: locker room, and again that magical number twenty seven to three.

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Speaker 1: What happened after that, and what happened with the offense? Yes,

649
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Speaker 1: there was the costly interception in the red zone. Then

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Speaker 1: there was the three and out before the Panthers went

651
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Speaker 1: on their third scoring drive. You gotta be able to

652
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Speaker 1: stay on the field if we're gonna look at the

653
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Speaker 1: defense and say get off the field. If you're the offense, ye,

654
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Speaker 1: stay on the field. And for the second straight week,

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter there was a three and out

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Speaker 1: by the offense, which allowed the opponent to either get

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Speaker 1: in their score or, in the case of the States,

658
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Speaker 1: game drive for the potential game time or game winning touchdown.

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Speaker 3: It's not only physically deflating, it's mentally draining as well.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I haven't even got you know, halfway

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Speaker 3: through my cup of gatorade and I'm back out on

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Speaker 3: the field. So yes, that that that's a very real

663
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: thing for a defense. They love to look up at

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Speaker 3: the board, see you running the football, James Connor, Tray

665
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Speaker 3: Benson dishing it out, being the aggressor, moving the sticks,

666
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Speaker 3: running the clock. Those are all things that when we

667
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Speaker 3: try and answer the question going back without bearing the lead,

668
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Speaker 3: what is the formula for finishing It's not only a

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Speaker 3: four minute offense at the end of the game, but

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Speaker 3: it's a run game to really salt it away and

671
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Speaker 3: exert your dominance and in flex on a defensive front,

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Speaker 3: and Cardinals have not been able to do that as

673
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: an offensive line. Obviously you're missing Tip Ryman doesn't help.

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Speaker 3: But on the James counter touchdown run, you had John

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Speaker 3: Gains as a full back and Colen Beacham is an

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Speaker 3: extra offensive lineman, so you still were able to go

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Speaker 3: thirteen muscle as they call it, like thirteen personnel, three

678
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Speaker 3: tight ends in an extra alignment.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the possession and drive chart here.

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Speaker 1: After the Cardinals score to make a twenty seven to three,

681
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: not counting the kneel down, the Cardinals offense over two

682
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: drives ran twelve plays, nine plays seventy yards which ended

683
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: in an interception, and then that three and out. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, twelve plays over two possessions in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, in that second half after it was twenty

686
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Speaker 1: seventy three, you're talking the rest of the game, they

687
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Speaker 1: only ran twelve plays play twenty seven after the touchdown

688
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: after the James contort touchdown twelve plays. Now there was

689
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: the kneel down, so thirteen plays, but eliminate the kneel

690
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: down twelve plays and they you look, they only had

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00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: the interception, the three and out, and then the on

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Speaker 1: side kick that that you know, if you want to

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00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: look at one particular play, it was the on side.

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Speaker 1: You recover that ball. Again, game's over and you walk

695
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: off the field winning twenty seven to twenty two, as

696
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: opposed to again another edge of your seat end of

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Speaker 1: game with the defense on the field.

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Speaker 3: So once again, it's never as simple as all the

699
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: play calling or the defense can't get off the field.

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00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: Everything is complimentary, everything is synced up. The offense needs

701
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Speaker 3: to extend drives. The defense, yes, needs to make plays

702
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 3: on third and fourth down and get off the field.

703
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: But remember defense was dealing with some serious injuries that

704
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: they had suffered. So in cases like that, it would

705
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: be great to see the offense really take over and say, guys,

706
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: we got this. And after twenty seven to three. Look,

707
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: there's no scientific reading, but if you're just say okay,

708
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: the intensity, the intensity waned and as a result, maybe

709
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: the attention to detail wasn't there and all of a

710
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: sudden you're not converting, or maybe the physicality took a

711
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: tick down. These are all things that contribute, and that

712
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: basically goes under the umbrella heading of momentum. That's what

713
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: players mean. Players basically mean it becomes fourth quarter of

714
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Speaker 3: a preseason game in a lot of ways, the mentality

715
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: versus what you saw in the first half of the

716
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 3: first quarter where the Cardinals are absolutely on fire and

717
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: came out balling. So I try and tell people this,

718
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: and maybe you can try this with your postgame callers

719
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Speaker 3: and that pro athletes to them, this is their job. So,

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Speaker 3: mister caller online three, do you show up on a

721
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Speaker 3: Monday morning immediately and give everything you have or do

722
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: you check your fantasy football team if it's late on

723
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Speaker 3: a Friday and the week's almost over, are you still

724
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: giving it? Maximum? Effort and maximum productivity, or because the

725
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 3: week's almost over, you're just sort of gonna finish it

726
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: up and nail it in. Guess what when it's a

727
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: blowout game, what do you think the players do? Maybe subconsciously,

728
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: in inherently that's what happens because it's their job.

729
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: Cardinals, Again, better to have this conversation after a win

730
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: versus after a loss. And hasn't always looked great. Certainly

731
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Speaker 1: areas on both sides of the ball and special teams

732
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: to work on and get better. But you're sitting here

733
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: two and zero, and again it hasn't looked great. But

734
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Speaker 1: I don't care sometimes what it looks like, because this

735
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: is in college. There's not a top twenty five poll,

736
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Speaker 1: and you don't move up and down based on how

737
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: you perform or how it looked like you were performing.

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Speaker 1: All that matters in January. What's your record, doesn't matter

739
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 1: how many points you scored, how many points you allowed,

740
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Speaker 1: did you win enough games to get into the postseason,

741
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Speaker 1: whether you won by three every single time or one

742
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Speaker 1: by thirty every single time.

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Speaker 3: I mean I would say by next month, nobody cares whatsoever,

744
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Speaker 3: how or what went into a twenty seven twenty time

745
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 3: to win. It's just you got the dub. But you

746
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Speaker 3: know what, you don't even have to wait that long

747
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Speaker 3: by the time we get to this. By the time

748
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Speaker 3: we get to this football Friday, everyone is forgotten about

749
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Speaker 3: any of the particulars. All they care about was it

750
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Speaker 3: a dub or was it an L and so and

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Speaker 3: you know what to some degree. And this is just

752
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Speaker 3: me recklessly speculating here at the end of Cardinals Cover too, Craig,

753
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: if I'm allowed, ASU started with NAU and Texas State. Well,

754
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: the Cardinals started with the Saints and the Panthers. So

755
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: now they're easing into the season. So now you go

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Speaker 3: into two division games, and I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 3: their best at least their best intensity.

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Speaker 1: Put it that way, by the way, before we let

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Speaker 1: you go. By Friday, this is what Paul will be

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Speaker 1: looking forward to. Did I pack my sun's screen? Did

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Speaker 1: I pack enough sunscreen for the outdoor adventure that awaits

762
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Speaker 1: him on Sunday? What awaits us immediately here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two is the Angry Bird Award. Who is there

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Speaker 1: going to be a week two?

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Speaker 3: Well, a man who has everything, including a lengthy career,

766
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: had his own version of micd Up. If I was smart,

767
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: I would have brought this to the stadium and actually

768
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: got it some camera time. Because our Angry Bird Award

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Speaker 3: goes to mister miked up. Kaleis Campbell his walk off

770
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: sack at the very end everything he did, everything he

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Speaker 3: does on the sideline, and I got a good reminder

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00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: of that the last two weeks. I mean, he he

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Speaker 3: really is the grand Poohba of the sideline. Everyone's coming

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00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: up to him, they want advice. He's talking to different

775
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: position groups. There's no such thing anymore as a player coach.

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Speaker 3: He's about as stinking close as you're gonna get in

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Speaker 3: modern professional athletics. So for that, we give him the

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Speaker 3: Angry Bird Award. And by give him, we know don't

779
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: mean literally because we only have one and he has

780
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: three young kids, and so they would probably take the

781
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: stuffed animal that's in the mini helmet and I would

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Speaker 3: never get it back. So we're gonna keep it right here.

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Speaker 3: It's an honorary gift and ward.

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Speaker 1: Now, Kalais, you can walk off into the sunsets and

785
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Speaker 1: retire because you have now accomplished everything. Sure. Walter Payton

786
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Speaker 1: NFL Man of the Year, Yes, that's a big deal

787
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Speaker 1: and all, but nothing measures up to the Angry Bird

788
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Speaker 1: Award here on Cardinals cover TWA.

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Speaker 3: You know what your darn tune is this? Like Wikipedia?

790
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Speaker 3: Can I go into this? Can I add it to

791
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Speaker 3: his Wikipedia page? I'm gonna go in Walter Bayden, Man

792
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Speaker 3: of the Year, six time pro bowler, NFL Decade Team

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Speaker 3: in the twenty tens, and Angry Bird Award winner.

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Speaker 1: Please check that if you can take a screenshot, and

795
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: then you can let Kalais know, Hey, look, congratulation to

796
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: be like, what is this, Paul.

797
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: Oh Man, It's so good to see the big man.

798
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: And you know what it's not. It's not a stunt.

799
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Speaker 3: It's not a pr thing. They're not trying to get

800
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: more airtime or sell more tickets. He can still play

801
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: and that's the best part about it to me.

802
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: Thirty seven snaps on Sunday, the most sacks at State

803
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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium cleared past Chandler Jones, I believe now with

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Speaker 1: the second sack, with the walkoff sack, thirty and a

805
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: half sacks for Kalais Campbell at State Farms. Dady.

806
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because his five sack game against Tennessee was

807
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: on the road that was actually in Nashville or Khalais

808
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 3: would still be in second place.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals, to enjoy your victory Monday. Savor it because not

810
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: every team gets to have a victory Monday. On that notes,

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Speaker 1: we'll put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals Special.

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our executive producer Joe Mamahundra, our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Cody Fincher. For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig rayl Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two