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Speaker 1: I'm a homegrowl that knows a little bit about everything

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Speaker 1: and everybody, you know, if.

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Speaker 2: You don't lie about that, right, Lauren came in. Hey, y'all,

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Speaker 2: it's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with

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Speaker 1: Now this is always your daily dig into all things entertainment, news,

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Speaker 1: pop culture, and the conversations that shake the room. I

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Speaker 1: love episodes where you know it's in like real time,

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Speaker 1: things have really happened, and we can just get on

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Speaker 1: here and we could talk a little bit, checking in

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the grind, which is where we

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Speaker 1: you know, pulled a curtain back and just check on

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Speaker 1: each other, see how we feeling.

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Speaker 2: I am feeling very well rested.

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Speaker 1: I've probably said that a lot in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks because I've been prioritizing making sure I get

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Speaker 1: my resting because it's been a lot happening. But this weekend,

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Speaker 1: in particular, was Father's Day weekend. I went home and

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Speaker 1: literally did nothing. When I said I went home, I

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Speaker 1: mean I went home to my hometown with my.

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Speaker 2: Family in Delaware and didn't nothing.

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Speaker 1: Like literally got in my mom's bed and slept, spent

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Speaker 1: time with my grandmother, it was Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: My brother is a father, so you know, he was

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Speaker 2: in the house.

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Speaker 1: We really didn't do much of anything, but it felt

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Speaker 1: good to be doing nothing. But Father's Day was happening,

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Speaker 1: and the posts were everywhere. I love seeing dads be dads.

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Speaker 1: I love seeing black father's black father is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite things to see. But I came across this

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Speaker 1: conversation getting into the latest. I came across this conversation

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Speaker 1: that Kirk Franklin hosted on his YouTube channel, and it's

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Speaker 1: for a series that he has called The Den of Kings,

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Speaker 1: And the premise of the sit down is what happens

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Speaker 1: when black men sit down, take off their masks, and

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Speaker 1: speak from the heart. And the premiere of Den of

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Speaker 1: King's Grammy winner, Kirk Franklin is joined by DC Young,

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Speaker 1: Fly daval Ellis, I Love daval Lou Young, and Country

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Speaker 1: Wayne for a raw, honest and powerful conversation about fatherhood, faith, masculinity,

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Speaker 1: and healing from growing up without a blueprint to leading

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Speaker 1: their families with intentional love.

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Speaker 2: This fron teble pulls no punches.

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Speaker 1: This isn't about being perfect, It's about being present, y'all.

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Speaker 1: I love conversations like this even though I'm not a

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a woman because gon say, even though

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Speaker 1: I'm not a man.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, duh, Lauren.

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Speaker 1: I love conversations like this though, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: as a woman and when I'm watching these things, it

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Speaker 1: makes me look at like, I don't know how many think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how men deal with what they go through.

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Speaker 1: I only know what I experienced from the men in

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Speaker 1: my life, my brother, my dad, my stepdad, my my

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Speaker 1: male friends. So I'm always interested in learning and seeing,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of the other side of the of

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Speaker 1: like from a man's point of view.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what this was.

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Speaker 1: They talked about so many different things and it got

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Speaker 2: The first thing they opened up with I thought was

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Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin asked them, you know, what is the biggest

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Speaker 1: myth about about black dads?

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Speaker 3: And here's what they said, The biggest myth that society

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Speaker 3: has about black fathers sick and tied that you want

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Speaker 2: That we ain't there. I'm going to say that we

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Speaker 2: did beat now, might I mean there? We be across

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Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is, studies show that black

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Speaker 4: fathers are the most present in their kids life amongst

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Speaker 4: all demographics.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: On top of that, single fathers have a higher graduation

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Speaker 4: rate and lower incarceration rate than single moms and dual

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Speaker 2: Come on, that is a fact.

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Speaker 5: Show them with those stats really being relevant. Now, where

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Speaker 5: is this myth still continuing to come from?

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Speaker 2: You think narratives?

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Speaker 4: Think about it, right, We don't watch TV. Everything that

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: There are people who have agendas, right, and part of

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Speaker 4: that agenda is creating a separation between men and women

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Speaker 4: in our communities. It's always been that way.

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Speaker 1: And man, when I tell y'all, has hit me because

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Speaker 1: every single year, for like Father's Day, and you know,

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Speaker 1: even on Mother's Day, seeing fathers post their kids with

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Speaker 1: all these things. I'm like, I look around and I

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Speaker 1: don't know no men that are not in their kids' lives.

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Speaker 1: I don't know any men that are not taking care

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Speaker 1: those guys. But I know, at one point in time,

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Speaker 1: I knew where to reach him, I knew how to

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Speaker 1: call him and all that. But it's different having him

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Speaker 1: just a natural thing for me because I going a

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Speaker 1: My dad talk, you know, I'll text someone, you might

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Speaker 1: check in here and there. But if I don't talk

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Speaker 1: unormal for me. But my mother and my grandmother who

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm too busy.

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Speaker 2: The world is coming to it.

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Speaker 1: And even my mom, my stepdad, my brother's father who

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Speaker 1: I don't talk to him every single day, but if

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Speaker 1: I ain't heard from him. Even going home for Father's

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Speaker 1: Day this weekend, I was My intention was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's just, you know, I think it's been such a

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Speaker 1: of us have experienced that. I just share my experience

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Speaker 1: with that, right. But I have all of my friends

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know them people. I don't know them men.

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Speaker 1: So just by that being the opening conversation, I was like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: So next they talked about something that I thought was

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Speaker 1: also you know, very interesting as well. Kirk Franklin had

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Speaker 1: forth about a ton of different things. His son alleged

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Speaker 1: you know, with Kirk Franklin being a faith leader, people

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Speaker 1: looked at this and was like, hold on, wait what Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Like Kirk Franklin and people that are in the faith

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Speaker 1: get the same chances to like have issues in the family,

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Speaker 2: So they talked about it, and here's what Kirk Franklin

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Speaker 5: There is a reality that when you live with someone

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Speaker 5: every day, yes, and you're in a house with with

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Speaker 5: with these images of you and this person that is

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Speaker 5: looking for you too that don't be there for them,

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Speaker 5: but to also keep the lights on, keep a certain

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Speaker 5: I can understand now why they have such an ease

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Speaker 6: In the house because I'm like, okay, I eventually I

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Speaker 6: want to be married, right listen to married men, successful

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Speaker 6: Y'all can walk down the steps, yeah, see the family

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Speaker 4: Yes, tell you yes, I'm gonna tell you right now

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Speaker 4: why we live in an age where women too are

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Speaker 4: not just wanting to be homemakers. My wife has her

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Speaker 4: that's my career. My wife got a side check, that's

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Speaker 4: her career. My wife just just books her first series

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Speaker 4: now it's the time where the val got it be supportive.

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Speaker 2: She's going I do Now.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I thought that that was dope was

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Speaker 2: And you have Country Wayne, who, even in this sit down, he.

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Speaker 1: familiar with his situation, but he's talked about a lot

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Speaker 1: of the things that he went through just figuring it out.

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Speaker 1: And man, when you figuring it out in front of

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Speaker 1: And I can't imagine doing it with kids as the

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Speaker 1: That's a whole different play. And they even got into that.

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Speaker 1: But he said, you know, he could get in contact

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Speaker 1: Take this episode to just spend some time talking about

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Speaker 2: Dad's tweet me.

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Speaker 1: Let me know how your father's Day was, and please

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Speaker 1: go and watch this, then conversation with Kirk Franklin, and

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Speaker 1: thought about it. Low Riders, all the male low riders

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Speaker 1: I want to hear how you guys feel and what

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Speaker 1: La Rosa. And at the end of the day, there's

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