WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Mariah Carey Part 1 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.800 Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What's Up Everybody? 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.479 This is Sugar Steve from Quest Love Supreme as we 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.600 celebrate the holiday season. This felt like a worthy two 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:16.040 part classic revisit. Here is Mariah Carry. We recorded this 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.000 in the middle of the night, but it was worth it. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:20.680 Mariah was promoting her book and she was an open 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.439 book to us. This is a really free and fun 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.720 conversation with one of the biggest superstars of music. Part 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:30.200 one originally air January thirteenth, twenty twenty one, but this 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.280 is timeless. Enjoy everybody and happy holidays and a healthy 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.839 new Year from Team Supreme and everybody at Quest Love Supreme. 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.920 Ladies and gentlemen, Happy twenty twenty one. Let me just 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.760 start a preface that this intro might be twelve minutes, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:01.800 but I'll cut to the chase. I consider all Quest 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.000 Left Supreian episodes to be top notch, some of my 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.880 favorite guests ever, but a few guests might shine a 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.640 little bit brighter. I won't even say the most, but 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.000 few of our guest on the shows sign just a 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.280 little bit brighter. As our fortune have it in twenty 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.760 twenty one, this particular episode will shine very bright. Notice 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:26.000 the holiday Christmas motifs I'm using. I will say that 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:30.320 for the last three decades, our guest has been Music 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:36.479 Royalty out the Gate, fifteen studio albums, seventy two singles, 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.240 over two hundred million records sold globally. I will say 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.880 that for of those records, Riot, Daydream, Music Box and 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:51.160 Emancipation have sold one hundred million copies combined. Just those 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:55.960 four she is the best selling female artist globally. And 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:01.920 she practically, she literally owns Christmas. Her her recordal All 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.840 Want Yes Christmas is twelve months away, but still she 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.480 owns Christmas. Her All I Want for Christmas is the 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.080 biggest selling song in the world and all parts of 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.640 the globe, not even just the United States for the 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:20.240 second time already. It is broken crazy records. It's the 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:24.440 all time biggest selling streamed song. I didn't even know that, 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.000 at seventeen point two million for streams in one day. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.040 It's the first single by a female artist in history 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.520 to be certified five times platinum in the UK, which 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.280 is not an easy feed at all. She's the first 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.840 artist to rank number one on the chart for distinct decades, 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.200 For distinct decades. She reached number one this year, officially 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.160 on the UK Singles charts, after twenty six years a 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.959 gap in between. It's the first holiday song in history 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:55.560 to be number one in the US and the UK 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:59.560 at the same time. So Fuck White Christmas by bing 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:06.000 Crossby Her Apple specials number one and more than one 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.520 hundred countries across the world. Her book is a New 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.120 York Times bestseller and number one on Audible. I have 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.520 to say I'll be here all damn day, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:22.000 How did we get the one and only Mariah Carrey 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.079 on quest of supreme Please welcome? Thank you? 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:27.600 Yes, yes, thank you, thank you, thank you officially made it. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:28.320 We've arrived. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.680 Yes, we have made it. 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:35.720 No, I listen, I've been stressing out about this because 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:41.280 I know that I am not queen of technology, nor 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:46.680 am I queen of musical technical moments of discussion. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:48.520 Look we are we are. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:49.240 I swear. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:53.360 We are four nerds that just like music. Like, trust me, 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.880 I'm not going to okay, I do. Your first question 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:59.240 is okay, so you're Yamaha Dix seven patches on your 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:06.320 first album, right, like, please don't ask me those nerdy 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.920 stuff that you ask about, like keyword patches and all this. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.640 Oh thank god. I mean, you know, that's cool, that's it. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.960 She hates that as well. How how are you today, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:18.159 I'm good. 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.960 I'm good. Actually, it's we're having a little celibratory moment. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.520 So you mentioned Christmas, and I just want to say 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.520 this is totally off topic, but I'll just say it anyway. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.440 So we had an incredibleness this year and all the things, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.679 all the things, but because it's COVID and I can't 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.720 really I haven't gone anywhere in months, almost a year, 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.960 just at a paranoid about the whole thing. And it's 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:49.120 not paranoid, it's just being saved. But yeah, so so 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.000 here I am enjoying like my first little party and 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:59.000 cheers to you guys. So cheers you have me flash 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.800 as we talk. But I did want to say thank 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.040 you for having me. And yeah, I was a little 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:11.600 bit like, clearly I know Greg filling games by any expect. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:14.440 Nice one. 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.159 And by the way, I did hear when he when 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.960 you said, oh, the Mariah Carey Boys to men elevator 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.040 and he was like, well, that's the Greg filling games 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.839 later and I'm like that's cool, but can they pay 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.400 me back, like, can can they hit battery give me 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:30.960 those millions of dollars back that I used to cost 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:39.799 to record it. I'm sorry real for them. I'm sorry. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.320 It is how we need to keep it. This question 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.960 of Supreme talk that sh. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:48.120 No, it's nothing, it's nothing. It's just that. Really, I 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.880 can't even imagine how much money people used to spend 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:56.159 in on recording, you know, to record their albums or 0:05:56.160 --> 0:06:00.200 whatever they recording in these major studios, Like just to 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.080 be in a big studio. I know how I felt, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.480 because come on, just to be there, just to say 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.040 I'm at the Hit Factory on blah blah blah blah Street, 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.080 I'm at right Track, I'm at Quad, I'm at whatever. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.919 But here I'm know for like I'm at Quad, but I'm. 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.480 Just wait, did you ever record a Quad? 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:21.240 Of course I have. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.640 Yes, you went to Tupac Central. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:31.479 Wow, I lived at Tupac Central. Yes I did, and. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.640 We recorded there too. Couest love Supreme. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.800 I know that, but I would expect us to be there. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:36.920 It's funny. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.360 That's the same type of thing that goes on in 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.080 terms of people's perception of me, Like yeah, I went 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.640 to Quad. Yeah, I'm not gonna. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.640 Say, I'm not saying that recording at uh something high 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:54.200 level like Sony or D and D studios is beneath you, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:58.479 but yeah, even I would prefer to be at at 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.159 its time when Sony was a great studio record at 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:06.400 or Electric Lady as opposed to D and D or 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:06.760 you know. 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:11.840 Like Electric Lady. We love Electric Lady, of course, and 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.920 the history and the whole thing of it all, and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.520 I need to be the give the utmost respect to this. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.200 The history of it all is everything, and we know 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.480 the room and the way it sounds in the rooms 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.200 and the way they sound and everything. We'd love that. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:31.560 But yes, the glitzy and glamorous new like they're not 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.040 new now, but like you know, the head factories of 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.120 the world give you a different type of thing. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.920 So can I ask now that you know, for the 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.640 last thirty years you've been recording at studios and they were, 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.720 you know, plentiful. In the last three decades now they're 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.440 almost like far and few between. I know Manhattan, there's 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:56.080 probably maybe seven left that are still up and running 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.360 and in good condition. Does that wear you little bit 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.440 that or have you adjusted already? Like have you made 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:08.360 music on your laptop yet. Have you you know Allah, 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.640 you know Kanye and jay Z making watch the thrown 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:16.040 in a hotel room in bathrooms, Like, have you adjusted 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:17.000 to that yet? 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.800 Or I absolutely have and not because they did it. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:26.640 I started doing this. I'm going to say probably the 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:32.280 Rainbow album. Actually I'm trying to think that far back. Yeah, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:37.800 so that's ninety nine, but yeah, I started. So I 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.599 went to Randy Jackson, not of the Jackson five, but 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:49.120 Randy Jackson. Randy, Yeah, Randolphin and we love him, I said, Randy, 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.480 I love going other places I'm recording. So me and 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.560 my engineer, Brian Garton, we would go wherever. We would 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.360 just go. He would set up a room, even if 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.000 I literally sang in the bathroom, he would set up 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.400 a soundproof situation and we would run the wires at 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.760 that point through he would I didn't. I didn't run 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.720 the wires, but if he would, you know, figure it out, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.560 and we would record that way. Because I wanted to be, 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.200 whether it's Puerto Rica, wherever I wanted to be from 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.079 my own peace of mind. And like Amir, we've talked 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.800 about this, where you're like, I don't want to be 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.640 in a comfortable environment. I like to feel like that criminess. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.840 And I understand that too. I don't know that I'm 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.560 not speaking for you and saying exactly what you said, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.040 but I think I'm on the same page as what 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:32.560 you were saying. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.080 Oh, that's exactly what you were saying. 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:37.839 Forward to studio, Yeah, exactly. But I spent I feel 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.560 I've spent enough years in uncomfortable studios, starting from when 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.720 I was eighteen years old, sleeping in the floor, sleeping 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.360 on the floor in the little studio behind it in 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.400 the back of the woodshed, which I talk about in 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:53.200 my book, but on the floor sleeping there because I 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.920 had no money to have a real studio situation. So anyway, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.760 cut to ninety nine and I started kind of like 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.640 traveling in order to record. Actually it happened right after 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.680 the Butterfly album, which is like the year before, because 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.439 I was just trying to figure out, like where can 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:11.880 I do this, How can I do this? And then 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:16.120 I connected with my couple different engineers I was working 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.199 with and we figured it out. So Randy Jackson back 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.840 to that, he said, damn, man, I have this studio 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.320 that you would love and capri and it's on top 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.520 of a mountain. And blah blah blah. It was like 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:30.679 please like anything you have. So I ended up falling 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.760 in love with this studio called Capri Studios and another 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.880 Italian word that I can't pronounce, but anyway, I slept 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.920 in a little room next to the live room and 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.199 I would actually recorded several songs there, and then when 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:49.080 we were doing the immense I did the Chombracet album 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.440 there and other places. Basically we just traveled. It was 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.240 a traveling studio, so it was you know, pro tools 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.400 and just a setup on his laptop and then you know, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:04.560 making the room so it's not super for Yeah, so 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.560 we had all of that, like we had we had 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.280 all of that together, and then I would just love 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.160 it because honestly, like and this is a total sidebar, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.240 and I'm sure you're going to edit this however or 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.320 maybe not. But one of the things I learned early 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.719 on from Luther when we did our for our collaboration 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:28.280 on Endless Love we make yes and he was one 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:33.640 of my all time favorite people and tones like just vocal, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.880 just the texture, and he felt that there was a 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.320 similar type of this is what he said to me, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.880 type of like when you hear the harmonics sometimes within 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.240 the breathy tone. And he was telling me in order 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.040 to preserve that with that haven't always listened to and 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.560 have gotten back into it now. But he was like, 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.200 you need to be in a place like a very 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.559 warm and humid climate in order to preserve that. The 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.120 desert la everywhere else is really really bad for you. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.640 Just always remember, like if you are in those places, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.520 make sure you have like humidification, like all the humidifiers 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.760 in the land, like you need to have it. And 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:15.480 I have that. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:21.240 Go ahead, Okay, I have a question, Okay, okay, so secretly, yeah, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.600 behind all of your backs and by all of you 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:29.560 or I'm talking about singers. I I quasi eye roll 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:36.559 because I always thought that that was psychosomatic. So let 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.720 me let me ask the question first, okay, is okay? 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.480 So is that whole thing now? Just to give it 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.720 a little backstory, You're at the tonight show. Okay, when 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.280 Aretha Franklin was alive, she would only agreed to come 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.600 on this show if we killed all of the air 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:59.480 conditioning in thirty Rock. And the thing is, it's not 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:06.480 like one particular floor can control the temperature. So if 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:09.520 we turn off the air condition for Aretha Franklin that 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:13.880 affects like seven floors, which basically says that we should 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:19.440 modernize and update our temperature system. But whenever Aretha comes, 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.640 it would be a nightmare because then it would be 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.920 ninety eight degrees in this building and they would have 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:26.720 to turn off the air at two in the morning 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.760 the night before, and then her guy would come in 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.880 test it, and then she'd would you know, she'd come in. 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.400 So it's said that her voice, her throat would closed 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:42.760 or whatever and that sort of thing. Is that really true? 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:47.559 I believe it to be true, and particularly for Ritha. So, Amir, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.840 you have me laughing because I know you read my 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.120 memoir The Meaning of Mariah Carey shameless plug. But I'm 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.679 going to say it because we talk about Aretha and 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:04.000 when we were doing what was the Devis Live? Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:08.600 so she and Ken Rlick, we love Ken r Lick. Yeah, 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.720 And knowing that if I say something negative, he's gonna 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.920 be pissed off of me like he always gets. But 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.640 you know, I'm just being I'm just keeping in one hundred. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.720 This is what happened, Supreme, trust me. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.240 No, no, no, you're not. But he has a way 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:28.920 of hearing. So I love Ken, you love him, he 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.360 did my first naked show. Blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.320 we love Ken. So but here's what was happening. So 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.000 I was like, I'm in a pop culture spiral right now, 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.040 and I can't even believe this. So I'm sitting there 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.480 and you know, I already know because I just told 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.120 you about Luther and the recommendations like that was not 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.040 in front of any camera. That was not for any 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.960 reason other than he was like, preserve the tone, right, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.200 He was like, just do these things. And I never 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.240 knew anything about the humidity blah blah blah. Anyway, so 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.600 when I first sang with Aretha that night, obviously I 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:06.520 was completely intimidated and flipping out and scared and everything else. Right, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:11.760 So we're getting ready to go on the stage and 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.960 all of a sudden, there's this whole hoopla happening, and 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.320 I hear, you guys are are we just really pissed 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.800 off Ken? Ken Carl comes by and he's like, she's 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.000 not happy. I don't know what's going to go on. 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.360 I'm right just gonna say, you know, wait and see 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.200 what happens. Right, So I'm like, this is a big 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.240 moment in my career, Like it's right at the beginning 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.720 of Butterflies, all this and all that. But again, Wreatha 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.040 is the queen, so everybody's waiting. We were basically you're 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.120 all there in reverence. I know I was in reverence 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:41.440 of the queen. So so yeah, so I said, well 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:44.480 maybe because he said she always does this, she always 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.720 does this, and he's like, oh, I don't worry, she 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.000 always does this. And I'm like, okay, I go, can 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.520 I just maybe rehearse with her? Because I don't know 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.680 what this, what's gonna this is gonna be, So I 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.720 just just want to have a little moment so you know, 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.840 and also you want to be I had met her before, 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.840 and we had had, you know, our moments and great moments, 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.440 and but never this type of thing. So anyway, I 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.280 guess I'm not. I don't remember exactly how it happened, 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.160 but she ended up saying, okay, we can rehearse in 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.640 her tripper. So I walk into the trailer and she 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:22.520 goes Mariah, they're playing games and I'm not having the game. Yeah, 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.920 so we won't so we won't be rehearsing tonight and. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:38.760 Saying with the frank, yeah that was a great How 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:40.200 long did it take you to nail that? 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.080 No? Honest, So you know my friend Treyla Wrenz, right, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:53.840 he was just saying yes, yeah, yes, Florence, South Carolina. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:54.680 Home Florence. 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:55.360 Oh wow. 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.680 He talked about fish sandwiches in all right, South Carolina. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.640 He told me he just texted me tonight. He's like, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.600 he's like, I love him. He asked me about the fish. Sam. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:14.160 Yes, we're all but anyways, so yes, Be and Trey 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.399 always you know, we Revere a lot of singers, and 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.720 we don't do it to be funny, like we're not impersonating, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.280 and it's just you sort of embody them when you're 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.439 telling the story because this is how it happened. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:26.879 So you know what I mean. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.480 I kind of do impersonations on the side, not really, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.679 but it's not an impersonation. It's just me telling exactly 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.879 how it happened. So anyway, back to the story, so 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:41.440 we won't be rehearsing tonight, and I'm like, so anyway, 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.439 we work where they got her. And here's one thing 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.480 that I always say, and this is not that musicians 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.600 don't know. This or people like you guys who are 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.720 like professors of it all. But being that Big Jim Right, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.520 the late Big Jim Right who we love, my former 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:03.160 musical director who passed the way I believe it's almost 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:07.840 three years ago now, but he was her musical director, 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.639 Miss Franklin's musical director as well, so he was just like, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:13.800 this is prior to me working with Big GYM. I 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.359 don't even know how I got on this tension, but 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.720 he was just like, you know, she takes that queen 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.800 stuff very, very seriously, so it's a real thing. So 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.040 he would say, you know when it's she's such a 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:29.320 such a brilliant musician and her play her skills as 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:34.080 a piano player were insane and people don't even they 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.520 don't even realize that. So anyway, that's one of the 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:40.680 things that I revere her the most about, like that 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.320 musicality she had, and I wish people and I know 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.280 it's a female thing, and I know it's because her technical, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.320 her vocals and her whole thing was so incredible and 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.280 the whole diva persona that they don't even they didn't 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:57.960 even look at it, like, look at this woman plays 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:02.880 the musician ship and obviously when you watch, like, I'm 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.080 trying to think, was it don't play that song or 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.879 the one where she did. She she's playing live and 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.639 it's the black and white video and you see her 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:19.520 playing from back in the day with the whole ensemble. Yeah, 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:21.600 you know what it is. But anyway, you see that 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:26.080 only in certain moments. Anyway, so they so cut too 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.600 Deevi's live back again. So they got her a keyboard, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.040 put it in her in her trailer and they're like, Okay, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.480 you guys can go rehearse this right now. So she 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.440 had wanted to do dream Lover. We had a little 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.040 rehearsal I guess the day before or something, and then 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.240 she got out of there because it wasn't the air 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.480 conditioning situation wasn't right. So she was like, I really 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.840 liked what you did. I really like your sean Dreamlover. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:49.960 I think that would be a wonderful way to go. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.160 And I was just like, oh my god, she goes 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.840 dream Lover. Anyway, I was like, can we just do 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.879 Chain of Fools? Because I just couldn't. It was too 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:01.960 much from my heart to actually here were song and 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:06.840 try to do it. So anyway, tailor she she played 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.080 the song. She played, Uh, we figured out the key 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:11.920 and what we're gonna do and stuff, and we kind 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:15.640 of went back and literally five minutes or maybe maybe 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.440 ten and a couple of little moments. I never knew 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:21.000 she was an Aries. I'm an Ares. We're born two 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.879 days apart from each other, different years. But she I 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.119 said something she would like us. So a few more 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.480 typical larries. I she Knowlemon Areas so, and you know 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.280 Diana ross Is in those few couple of days of 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.480 Billie Holliday, Sarah vond there's a lot of these divas 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:42.560 that I grew up idol Shaka Khan and other areas idolizing. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.439 And I found this out from Maretha Franklin. I never 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.600 even knew anyway. So we rehearsed a little bit and 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.520 and the thing is, there was a huge, huge issue 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.520 about the AC and she goes like this. At one point, 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.440 in front of like my whole crew, she goes, what 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.760 are these people doing that's making them so hot? Why 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:02.800 do we need it? 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:04.920 Why? 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.840 And it just I was just like, Wow, it's really 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.000 real for her. And if you ever saw when she did, 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.240 I believe it was for Barack Obama. She did something 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.399 for the second term, and she was out of window 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.440 and it was cold and it was freezing, and she sang, 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.119 I don't remember what the song was. I believe it 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.760 might have been the star slang, but I don't remember 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:33.240 the one of the inaugurations, like yeah, but she wasn't outside. 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:38.960 She she actually apologized on Larry King Live. She went 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.480 and she apologized because she had to. And by the way, 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.959 obviously it was more than fine. She just wasn't up 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.400 and down the scale doing a million whatever. It was great, 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:53.600 but she felt the need to tell people that the 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.840 cold air had foiled her. And I get it because 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.560 I know I've been that hell with that type of 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:05.320 thing and way worse. But the thing is that level 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.639 of like she knew that she wanted to actually in 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.840 her mind kill it, and that cold air was messing 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.560 with her. So you have to to me whatever somebody says, 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:17.120 like if you told me I can't play drums when 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.879 they don't have like a specific light shine, like it 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:22.760 is what it is, like that was her thing, But 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.479 I do believe it's an actual it's an actually it's 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:30.160 a physical situation where the throat the cords do tighten. 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:34.960 Up, so let me ask, because uh, obviously you're you're 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:40.200 world famous for your active range. What is your active range? 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:41.160 You're five to six? 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:49.200 I don't know, and neither do you say one of 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.920 our favorites, it's going to happen. Here's the truth. You 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:57.480 would know better than me, Like I don't know. I've 0:22:57.560 --> 0:22:59.680 told people know this, some people do, some people don't. 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:03.639 My mind other was sang with City Opera. She was, 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.879 you know, she had a wonderful and still does to 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:15.200 this day, range and beautiful depth of her voice. She 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.040 wasn't a color to a soprano at stuck a metsa soprano, 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.399 but she has this range. So she would look at 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.880 me with my little moments and be like, you're gonna 0:23:25.960 --> 0:23:27.280 hurt yourself. What are you doing? 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:28.040 Like what is this? 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:32.040 What? I was the opposite, and so I, you know, 0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.720 we have our issues and blah blah blah blah. But 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.840 I do appreciate the fact that she didn't force me 0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:41.000 to try to become an opera singer because first of all, 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:43.119