WEBVTT - KhlO. J. (with Xosha Roquemore)

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that's Haiti's problem is they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>figured out a way to tap into that BBL market

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that the Dominican has.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, seriously, why not. It's the same island.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get some doctors over in Haiti giveing bbls.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, y'all, to be fair, what sounds sexier, Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Miami or doctor Hadi?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Go on, doctor had sounds like some kind of a warlord.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, factor Hades seem like he'll make it permanent.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you can't walk this BBL back. That's thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll ride badass, but he'll take a kipping.

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<v Speaker 3>Racist the money's turn stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't tell me you ain't gonna call me your boooo.

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<v Speaker 2>Just as bad as you wanna fuck, I wanna fuck

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<v Speaker 2>to Welcome to another episode of My Mama Told Me.

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<v Speaker 1>The podcast where we dive deep, deep into the pockets

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<v Speaker 1>of black conspiracy theories and.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally work to prove that that mass on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of ving Ram's neck is not a keloid. It is,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, a bunch of TUTSI rolls much together that

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<v Speaker 2>he takes off and puts in his bedside drawer every

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<v Speaker 2>night before he goes to sleep. He does it for

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<v Speaker 2>the cloud y'all. I'm David Boren.

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<v Speaker 1>This nigga lying about what's growing on his body.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Bacon keloids are here. Wha big rains.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta you gotta reflect, big dog, that's wild big.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's your real name, isn't his real name? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I does? Somebody sit down and go I will name

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<v Speaker 2>the boy ving Well, it's short for Inghamton.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Vinghamton, of course, yeah, that's a traditional name. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>legstin German. Did you already introduce yourself? Yeah, I started,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, well well fuck well then that ignored

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<v Speaker 1>that pause. Everybody, we're really good at this soci I

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<v Speaker 1>swear to.

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<v Speaker 2>God, it's gonna get It's gonna get so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get so much better.

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<v Speaker 1>I've already said our guest name. She She is a

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal talent of of so many kinds. She's a comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, h a performer. She's a single mom making

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, a millennial hip doing it all. She she's

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<v Speaker 1>we're so happy that she's here, and she fucking sucks

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<v Speaker 1>at technology, but she's pushing through all the same. Give

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<v Speaker 1>it up for our guest Zosha rockaball.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there'd be sound effects right there if we were

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<v Speaker 1>doing our thing. How are you How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. Tech difficulties aside. I'm great and happy to

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<v Speaker 3>be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're we're really excited you're here because you came

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<v Speaker 1>to us with the conspiracy theory that I I frankly, BORI,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised we haven't covered.

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<v Speaker 2>On this podcast. It's it's I feel like we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it in person a few times, but yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a this is good. This is a good one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it has not come up, and we've we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>every I think angle of these individuals without somehow covering

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<v Speaker 1>this version of the conversation. But I I you said,

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<v Speaker 1>my mama told me Chloy Kardashian is really O Jay's daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it, yeah, love it tell us everything? You know.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, it's a newer theory, right, Like those

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<v Speaker 3>women have only been on our radar for what since

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<v Speaker 3>like two thousand and seven. You know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>some of the black conspiracy theories are like probably centuries old, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of them go back to slavery.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, but like this one's new. And my grandma

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<v Speaker 3>actually told me whoa she was still living. She was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she was watching him Kardashians. She was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really want to watch them, but she was

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<v Speaker 3>like that Chloe, I think she's Ojay's baby. And like

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<v Speaker 3>then I just heard other people saying that, first of all,

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't look as much like the other sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>No, especially the original Chloe. There have been some some

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<v Speaker 1>substantial transitions that have made her look more like the sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>but that original, that og Chloe did not look like them.

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<v Speaker 1>Them girls, I think you mean that oj Chloe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was substantially taller because the other two sisters

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<v Speaker 3>are super petite. She's like five nine, five ten. She's

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<v Speaker 3>got the bigger bill naturally, like a football player she

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<v Speaker 3>got I don't know if this is like racist, but

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<v Speaker 3>she has like a black person's nose, like her nose again,

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<v Speaker 3>she's had a nose job, but she admitted to what

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<v Speaker 3>the original nose was more along the lines of mine

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<v Speaker 3>or like any button knows black person a brown or

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, they all kind of tan or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But like she had that and she had that strong,

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<v Speaker 3>middle child outsider energy that I think seem like bet

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Senior might not be her dad. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>this is so mean and offensive because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't know, we love first of all, you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing with the devils today, cold even don't you apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for a second.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only gonna get worse.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't want to be so terrible because

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<v Speaker 3>I know those girls. They're always like, oh, dad was

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<v Speaker 3>the number one things of our lifetime, and everyone's like that,

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<v Speaker 3>ain't daddy. Oh that's so hurtful.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, I will say, of the of these sort

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<v Speaker 1>of weird things that we could do to the Kardashians,

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<v Speaker 1>it does feel objectively like the meanest of the the

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, because they are, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, they are not necessarily good ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>They've they've done a lot of damage in a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Different ways to to people that we've respected and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, poor Lamar, poor Kanye, poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that said. Waking up one day and being like O. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson is your daddy and we're not gonna stop telling

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<v Speaker 1>you is a pretty fucking mean thing to do to somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Also that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>That it is she looks like the other girls OJ's

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<v Speaker 3>other daughters, because I guess so she looks like the

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<v Speaker 3>mixed one, same bill tame coloring. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 3>did we know that Robert Kardashian, Like, did we know

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<v Speaker 3>that OJ was all intertwined with the Kardashians before we

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<v Speaker 3>knew about the Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have I have no I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what OJ was up to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, Yeah, O J O J lived a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a of a cool, sort of reclusive life

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways. He wasn't like we knew about obviously

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<v Speaker 1>his his sort of like exploits out on town. But

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like people were gossiping about OJ until after

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<v Speaker 1>he had, you know, stabbed some folks.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. He was just Wood in that click Brentwood, Beverly

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<v Speaker 3>Hills with all those rich people being friends with lawyers,

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<v Speaker 3>being friends with Olympic athletes or whatever, like just chilling.

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<v Speaker 3>Then once the trial hit, because I think by the

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<v Speaker 3>time the trial was going on the Chris and Robert

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<v Speaker 3>were divorced, he was like an old family friend. And

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if a woman was to step out

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<v Speaker 3>and have a child with another guy, it probably would

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<v Speaker 3>be that like middle child before the last baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the fascinating part is Chloe is the baby

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<v Speaker 1>of the girls, but she is not the baby inside

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<v Speaker 1>of that family, and certainly not the baby as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to that original group, right, like Rob is the

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<v Speaker 1>baby baby of that group. And if you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>step out and maintain this marriage somehow, you probably do

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<v Speaker 1>it in the middle and then y'all try to fix it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't keep going. Rob, you know, three years

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<v Speaker 1>later comes around and y'all break up.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't start, you can't start or end with the

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<v Speaker 2>baby outside. Yeah, no, that's that's your wiln if you

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<v Speaker 2>start with a side baby, because where else are we

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go from here?

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<v Speaker 1>This is how I yeah, this is how you you

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<v Speaker 1>want us to begin?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not worth it. You just be like, no break up.

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<v Speaker 3>You had a baby on me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think maybe you gotta go with

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<v Speaker 1>that person because y'all got a baby and I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>without a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm freeing right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Right the other three looks so much alike like him, Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>They're like they all look like Princess Jasmine, like they

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<v Speaker 3>all looked dead alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gorgeous. He's got pretty eyes, he does.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a black China sauce. She was like his eyes

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<v Speaker 3>they're really.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she loved his eyes in his nose for sock making?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Rob have a sock making company?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that is I mean to do it? He makes

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<v Speaker 2>the socks, I believe. I don't think it's like I

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<v Speaker 2>think the company. It's not a sock Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know more about Rob Kardashian than I expected.

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<v Speaker 2>And kudos to you, my guy in.

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<v Speaker 3>The Girl Too, she got Chloe has light hair naturally,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's curly. Her little girl pictures she has like

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<v Speaker 3>curly I here, everyone else has the jet black straight like.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just a lot of evidence. And as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>my grandma told me that it made perfect sense, I

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<v Speaker 3>was like Ojay's daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, if you would have run an Oklahoma drill with

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<v Speaker 2>any of them, Chloe would be my last choice. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that means a lot. That's real. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>seems like she's gonna be able to put up a

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<v Speaker 2>good wall to sticky. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that so zosha. It sounds like your grandma says.

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<v Speaker 2>This to you, and you immediately are bought it. You're you.

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<v Speaker 1>You were like, hell, yeah, this makes perfect sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you then become in a h a are you

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<v Speaker 1>selling this to other people? Are you like, Hey, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been talking to my grandma and I've got some hot

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<v Speaker 1>takes for you to for you to think about it

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<v Speaker 1>was well.

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<v Speaker 3>The crazy thing was like I think I told like

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<v Speaker 3>one friend and she was like, yeah, everybody knows that.

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<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, Like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a thing like I never even had to repeat

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<v Speaker 3>it to anyone. It got repeated to me, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why it's like, I think the common thing that a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks think. But I think as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>like the Kardagashians came into people's like awareness, black people

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<v Speaker 3>were just like that's all Jay's not like they just

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<v Speaker 3>knew it, Like damn, I didn't spread it. I literally

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<v Speaker 3>told one friend and she said, yeah, dug. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a yeah, you thought your grandma was

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<v Speaker 1>like on some groundbreaking discovery. She was just she was

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<v Speaker 1>just a lady repeating stuff everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Here's my question. Were they creeping or was this

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<v Speaker 2>like a known like oh, Brent Wood were swapping wives? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like like is it like like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>because like, cheating is one thing cheating and excuse me

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the baby to term, there's a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's the situation. I'd like to think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like they knew they were like, let's just throw a

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<v Speaker 2>fun one in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it was like a key party that just that

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<v Speaker 1>went a little too far kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a key party?

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<v Speaker 1>When rich people, uh, I guess, want to swing, they

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<v Speaker 1>they exchange keys. They they will like, uh, you put

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<v Speaker 1>your keys into like a I guess a bucket or

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking hat or something. And then they'll like, I

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<v Speaker 1>give you the keys to my house and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can go fuck my lady and you can have the

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<v Speaker 1>keys to my house and I can fuck your your

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<v Speaker 1>man or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's I don't like that swap. It is it

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<v Speaker 2>weird to say you got sex with my wife, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need you have any key to my house. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the formality of it makes it feel ickier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, let's just let's just be gas station

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<v Speaker 1>lovers like we're supposed to be, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, master sweet, like just go to a hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, respect me enough to go to a Marriotte

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<v Speaker 1>and fuck my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>There Marriott, what is she the Queen of England? We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to Super eight because I have points and they

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<v Speaker 2>have free waffles in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you you are immediately met with a large

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<v Speaker 1>group of folks who are like, nah, we already know this,

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<v Speaker 1>this this, this ain't news to us. Do you feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>because I imagine you've kept track of the Kardashian's response

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<v Speaker 1>inside of this thing, do you feel like any of

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<v Speaker 1>the denial that has obviously come on the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Kardashians, specifically Chloe, has made you feel less certain

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<v Speaker 1>about this conspiracy theory. Have you ever doubted it? I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's a question.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean sure, because it's that will be it will

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<v Speaker 3>be nuts, like just it would just be nuts in general,

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<v Speaker 3>like if that was true. But the way they roll,

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<v Speaker 3>I watched their show, I'm not even gonna lie ye,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I'm like, I love it. I brought this,

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<v Speaker 3>but like they literally like they will literally be like

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<v Speaker 3>everyone thinks I had so much work done and like

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing I've had is like my nows and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of a boot job like they will not

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<v Speaker 3>address the butts. So long if the butts aren't addressed

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<v Speaker 3>and they plan in our faces, that's Ojay's baby, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Like, if you're not gonna address

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<v Speaker 3>these gargushuan booties that you waited and you're gonna lie

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<v Speaker 3>on the camera talking about tied as sim botoks, they

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<v Speaker 3>will not adjust the by So I'm like, anything goes

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<v Speaker 3>with the Yeah, they always tell the truth. They're always

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<v Speaker 3>mad that people are like everyone thinks everyone believes every

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<v Speaker 3>single room or about us and this and that. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like you can't say that and then the same

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<v Speaker 3>breath like not mention your plastic surgery enhanced, but like

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<v Speaker 3>you invented bbls, like you started the wave, like be

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<v Speaker 3>for real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a level of deceit that they live inside

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<v Speaker 1>of that makes it real hard to believe them on

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<v Speaker 1>everything else that they claim to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes quite frankly, a lack of respect, Yes, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>respect be enough to tell me about that ass and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And also not for nothing, we live in an era now,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly an era that they kind of created where

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<v Speaker 1>like work ain't even like taboo no more, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Like mad women who have had work done.

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<v Speaker 1>I know some men who have had work done and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's like deeply ashamed of it. They just go like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is what it is. Yeah, So like

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<v Speaker 1>what are y'all hiding? What is the thing that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>meant to like still be mystified by inside of it?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>It is crazy because it's like you should, if anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you should take pride in them. You started a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>crazy movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were like, Bro, we are going to make

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<v Speaker 1>women look crazy, ran, We are objectively about to make

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<v Speaker 1>ladies look like cartoon characters and build generations of figure

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<v Speaker 1>eight asked ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>We're also gonna stimulate the Dominican economy, right, yeah, which

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty good. I think you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the final question before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>break You obviously have reason to doubt these women in

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<v Speaker 1>their honesty as it relates to everything in their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically Chloe's relationship to oj Simpson. Do you feel that

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<v Speaker 1>there is ever going to be a time where they

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<v Speaker 1>finally come to sort of like the truth around this.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we ever going to see this in an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of The Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think. I don't think we're ever going

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<v Speaker 3>to see it in an episode. I think we might

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<v Speaker 3>see it in what did She About Me? And Chloe's

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<v Speaker 3>same age, maybe in thirty years in a tell All

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<v Speaker 3>or in a life like, you know, a huge release

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<v Speaker 3>when she's in her sixties and doesn't give an up anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>or look, she might not even know. It might be

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<v Speaker 3>a secret to her too. It might be Chris, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't think she's ever looked in the mirror and been like, Damn,

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<v Speaker 2>I look like I could rush for one to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Damn I got the juice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm like, what Oklahoma. I feel that she's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>looked in the mirror and been like, I do not

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<v Speaker 3>look like my sisters or my brother. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>for a fact. That's like her villain origin story, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>although the changes and the weight loss and this and

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<v Speaker 3>then that, because she don't look like them, anybody can

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<v Speaker 3>see that clear as day. So I definitely think she

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't. I feel like that would be one

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<v Speaker 3>of those things, like one of those like Tyler Perry

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<v Speaker 3>movie things where like they took it to the grave

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, that's your dad. Your dad is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Robert Senior, You're one of us. That's that. Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like if it were true, she wouldn't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of me feels like we're not acknowledging the Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Jenner of it all. Yeah, Like she's the keeper of

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<v Speaker 2>that secret, right right, Like, yeah, there's a possibility that

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe doesn't know. There's no possibility that Chris doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely not. And but Chris, I mean she is,

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<v Speaker 3>like she's the real doctor Haiti, Like she got so

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<v Speaker 3>she would be able to keep a secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now that lady, That lady is gonna die with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of evil, evil pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Of information tucked away and I don't know. Also speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to that point, though, here's the one thing I think

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<v Speaker 2>that detracts from my thoughts on maybe just being real.

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<v Speaker 2>If OJ Simpson and Chris Jenner had a baby, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be the most diabolical person of all time. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Chloe's kind of innocuous, right, like as far

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<v Speaker 2>as they go, Like, she doesn't seem like to exhibit

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<v Speaker 2>many oj ish qualities.

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<v Speaker 1>For a while, she was the fun one, YU say,

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<v Speaker 1>she was kind of the one that everybody liked. And

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<v Speaker 1>then she I think lost all that weight and changed

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<v Speaker 1>her face and stop being the fun one, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least as much as I can observe from a distance, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely still she's still the funny one. But but she's

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<v Speaker 3>the the rock. I'd say, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The Gardashian Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>She's the rock of the family. She's like the strong one,

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<v Speaker 3>the one they all come to, which is very black

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<v Speaker 3>woman friends, the black home girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's the magical negro of this family. Their problems,

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<v Speaker 1>the wise.

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<v Speaker 3>Mandwidth or a cheating baby daddy. She's like, I'm staying like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm just gonna break my sister's hair and

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<v Speaker 1>help them work through their problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>He's definitely that a source of love and warm the

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<v Speaker 3>whole family.

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<v Speaker 2>And she could rap. All right, we need to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. We're gonna be back with more rocking, more

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and more. My mama told me welcome back. Was that

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<v Speaker 2>a weird child? I don't know why you laugh like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I wanted.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like an insane I wanted it to feel like

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<v Speaker 4>we were like we were having fun, like it was

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<v Speaker 4>a genuine I got you. Yeah, I made like one

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<v Speaker 4>of my funny jokes. So you guys were like, you know,

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, yeah, no you listen. Hey, you know,

0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:49.720
<v Speaker 4>kind of run all this exposition. Uh, you know, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still talking to Zosha about whether or not Chloe

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian is, in fact the heir to the O. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson for fortune. True true, heir to the O J.

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<v Speaker 2>Simpson fortune. Fortune is a bold word, I think yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched a podcast earlier today in my research where

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<v Speaker 1>they were interviewing O. J. Simpson about this very subject

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<v Speaker 1>and a number of other subjects, but specifically they started

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<v Speaker 1>by being like, hey, how do you make your money now?

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<v Speaker 2>He was like, uh. They were like, do you make

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<v Speaker 2>new money or you just live off.

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<v Speaker 1>Of old money? And he was like, I got a pension.

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<v Speaker 1>I live off my pension. And it was like, fuck, OJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe in I guess old ass football, they gave these

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<v Speaker 1>niggas pensions.

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know he was. He said, he has.

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<v Speaker 1>A pension somewhere that he lives off of and he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need much.

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<v Speaker 2>No that bets on horses. Yeah, that's fair for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly didn't understand. And my favorite part was the

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:04.919
<v Speaker 1>interviewers didn't understand him either, but they were too. I

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.399
<v Speaker 1>think when you're interviewing O. J. Simpson, you're you're a

0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>little intimidated to like ask more questions because he's got

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>brain damage and he's killed people, Like what are you gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Yeah, I'll put it on record. I'm scared of OJ. Yeah.

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 3>I think so he's a murderer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a pretty clear murderer. I'm not. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk crazy to murderers. I lower my voice. I'm part

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<v Speaker 2>of me is worried he's gonna hear this.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I don't want him over in my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know. I literally thought he didn't do

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<v Speaker 3>it all those years, just as a black person.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, when I was little, like as.

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<v Speaker 3>A kid, I was like celebrated when he And then

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<v Speaker 3>when I watched the Ryan Murphy Show, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, he did it. I was like horrified.

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 3>All that OJ stuff came out like five and I

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, what he did? And black people were just

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 3>so itching for a win. Can's be killed? Or white ass?

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 3>But I was like, he like did it? Like?

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Have you been reading our group text?

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<v Speaker 1>So I will say I'm glad you brought this up

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>because I spent years also believing not I didn't. I

0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 1>never believed that he didn't do it. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the justice system was corrupt enough.

0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 2>That he deserved not to be you know what.

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that he deserved to get off the same

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<v Speaker 1>way that other rich white people have gotten off for

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>crimes that they did. That said, we did an episode

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of the podcast years ago with Sean Diston where we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about the possibility that his son might in fact

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<v Speaker 1>be the one who killed Roan Goldman and Nicole Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is worth looking into. I'm not gonna lie

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I was skeptical at first, but Jason has

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<v Speaker 1>a history of mental illness, had a direct line of

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<v Speaker 1>contact with the both of them that night. Was also

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.199
<v Speaker 1>had a number of sort of like conflicts with Nicole

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>specifically leading up to the events that happened that evening,

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<v Speaker 1>and had a history of pulling knives out on both

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like his employer and other people in his community as

0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>like his weapon of choice. So it doesn't seem impossible

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.639
<v Speaker 1>that he did it. And also, when oj was originally

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>notified of them being dead, he called the lawyer and

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 1>asked for the lawyer, not to represent him, but to

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>represent his son, Jason. And Jason has now been on

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the run or sort of like laying low. He's not

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>technically on the run, but laying low ever since.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think OJ put him up to it? Did

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 3>he like be like, you go kill him?

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's where it becomes. And I love your

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>OJ impression, by the way, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very fun.

0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>It's very fun, dude, one more time, just so, just

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so we get to cherish it as much as we

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 1>can go and get him Jason. The failure of this

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.360
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory is the way that people often go like, Okay, well,

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>OJ had nothing to do with it, and it was

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 1>all Jason is like, no, dog. I think they probably

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>were like at least in on it together, or when

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.160
<v Speaker 1>OJ found out, he was like, no, that's cool.

0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can go ahead.

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 3>You're fine. That's crazy though, I'm like, I gotta google

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 3>all that.

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>No, there are a lot of YouTube videos by very

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 1>unhealthy men that you can watch that uh, that'll break

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing down for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprisingly no, women.

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>There aren't a lot of female OJ truths out there

0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>for some reason.

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but you you think about it. There are

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>people fucking OJ still.

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there there are a lot of white women still

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking OJ and.

0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Uh wish wow. That's the ultimate bad boy if you're

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>a white lady. Yeah, old man.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Like seventy five.

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>He was very good, though surprisingly very good.

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:20.640
<v Speaker 1>He does look good for a man who's been through

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>what he's been through.

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 3>I know he had like I'm always once like would

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 3>he just be like where does he live? Is he

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 3>still in Brentwood? But like in an apartment?

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>He lives in Vegas?

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Now I can tell you, Uh, I think he lives

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>in Vegas, and I think he keeps a home in

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Florida as well, although home probably is a weighted word

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's a it's a it's a it's a studio

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 1>apartment THATJ lives in in Florida.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>JACKI like goofy college students like like like.

0:27:54.560 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>He's got a frame naked gun poster. I have one though, too.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>That's full disclosure, shame. It's a very funny movie. It was.

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 2>It was a great movie, Zosha.

0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I did some research on your conspiracy that I would

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>love to dig in with you. So let's let's just

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>start with the cold hard facts here Chloe is the

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>youngest of the of the three sisters of the three

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>hell Hounds, and uh, it is worth noting, Hell, yeah,

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't like him. So she is three years older

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>than Rob, who is now thirty six. So she's thirty nine.

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's never been accused of being OJ's son because

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>he is the most.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Armenian man.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>That I've ever seen on the planet. I don't think

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>anyone for a second has ever thought.

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>That he wasn't a mean, you know, he does look

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 2>very Glendale.

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, he's got a lot of shiny belts in

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>his club.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 2>But I can assure you.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>That said OJ did address these rumors in late twenty

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty two. The podcast I was telling you about, he

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>goes on the Full Sin podcast, which I would not

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>recommend to anybody, But he talked about his not wanting

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to sort of in the podcast when he's sort of

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>like saying, no, I don't really do these things. He

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>was saying he doesn't really like talking about things from

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the last century, that anything that existed in the century before.

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 2>The one we're in.

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm good, I don't want to talk about

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>them things. Let's just talk about this century.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly how he phrased it, and I laughed so hard.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I was a big millennium guy.

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was a willingium guy. But yeah, it's all

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the same. But specifically to your conspiracy zosha, he says

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that when when he was asked about potentially fathering Chloe,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>he said that rumor ain't true. It's not even anywhere

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>close to being true. And he says that he always

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>thought Chris was a cute girl, a very nice girl,

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>but he was dating supermodels at the time, and she

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>wasn't his taste. He was never attracted to Chris Jenner.

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 2>It's diabolical. Yeah, he said she was a cute girl.

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>She's a nice girl, she seemed nice, but but no,

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the bitch was she wasn't his taste.

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't She wasn't super modily enough for the OJ

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 3>at the time. Okay, because the Chloe was born in

0:30:55.360 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>eighty four, when OJ is like, when was he like

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 3>Heisman Dion Sanders, like in the eighties seventies?

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah, he left the league in the eighties, say.

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he was like a recently retired really rich athlete,

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>still in his thirties presumably.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he was hot.

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>He was hot.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is also when OJ, I think, is still

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the record holder for like everything, right, Like he's a

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>god in football at this point, and he's now transitioned

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 1>into sort of like a giant moneymaker for every commercial

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and industry out there.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Very front facing his own shoes.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what if they had one drunken night. You know,

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I feel like again in the vein of the key

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 3>parties or just the brit widow.

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 5>Like, yeah, it might just be you know, as one firm,

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 5>all the ladies know that this is one where you're like,

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, I didn't even count.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Like so so I'm really says it juice. You just

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>got juiced.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad that you brought that up because one

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>of the things that does get brought up pretty commonly

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of this conspiracy theory because Chris Jenner similarly

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>denies it.

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, she says she never had sex.

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 1>With OJ Simpson, but she is pretty open about the

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 1>fact that she did cheat on Robert Kardashian, and she

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 1>did cheat on him a fair amount. Like it isn't like, uh,

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>she only technically admits to one dude. This soccer player

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>turned producer named Todd Waterman is like the one person

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 1>who she has said for sure she's had sex with,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>But other people in the Chris Jenner camp have have

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>said she was like a pretty loose booty lady throughout

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the eighties and took a number of lovers, including like

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>celebrities and people who were like more closely connected to

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the family. So to your point, soshit, it's not out

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 1>of the realm of possibility that one night will Oj

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>turned into a big old third baby and.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 3>She likes athletes because you said this Todd person Caitlin

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:27.600
<v Speaker 3>big time athlete.

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but not black.

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 3>True, maybe she started the wave with the OJ her niagus.

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>He's the one who started it.

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Like perhaps, Oh, I don't want to give her that

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>much credit, but but it does seem like she could

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>be a trend center into space.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like I don't think her OJ would

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 3>admit that, you know what I'm saying. They're not going

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 3>to be on a podcast like, yeah, she is in

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 3>ruin Chloe's life. That would be that would scramble her

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>mind like eggs if she found out her dad was

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.880
<v Speaker 3>not who her dad was.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, so to that point. What becomes extra fascinating

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>inside of this interview that he's doing where he's talking

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>about not being attracted to Chloe or to Kim Carter,

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:21.759
<v Speaker 1>fuck what.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Is her name? Chris Jenner.

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>One of the things that he says is that is

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>that Chris Jenner actually sort of sold him up the

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>river when he was fighting for paternity of his kids

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>as it relates to Nicole. So him and Nicole split

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>up and one day I guess this may have been

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>before they split up. He's not a particularly articulate guy

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.799
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to interviewing, so it's hard to track

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>some of the timing of it. But he basically says

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>he goes to this this golf resort and he's hanging

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>out in Caitlyn Jenner, who is He keeps referring to

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>his Bruce, but you know Caitlyn Jenner is there, and

0:34:59.120 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>That that happened.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and he's pretty transphobic about it. Let me be clear,

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>he's not on the right side of history as it

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>relates to Caitlyn.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>There are only two options for how that was gonna go.

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Either he didn't know, he hated it.

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't outright say he hates it, but he does

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>say I don't know that nigga. He said, I mean Bruce, okay,

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>murder face. But but he says that Chris was really

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>worried about Caitlyn at the time because she was she

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>was antisocial, not really an outgoing person, and tried to

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>get OJ to basically take her golfing with him, like

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>she goes like, hey, can you take you take her

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>out golfing?

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's you know, let's socialized. I don't golf with women.

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 2>And Caitlyn's like, how did you know? I didn't go

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 2>by this? He was like, he was like, I could

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:03.120
<v Speaker 2>you just got that vibe I don't like.

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>But when he eventually agrees to do this, part of

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 1>his concern is he goes, I got my kids here.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to leave my kids, and she goes,

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll watch the kids were all your friends are here,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>will take care of the kids. And when he's fighting

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>for paternity of his children later, he says that Chris

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Jenner gets in the courtroom and goes, I remember one

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.760
<v Speaker 1>time we went to a golf resort and OJ left

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>his children by the swimming pool so that he could

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>go on a golf outing and abandoned them as part

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.360
<v Speaker 1>of the evidence for why he would be an unfit

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>father for his kids. He almost starts to cry in

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the interview because he said it still bothers.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>Them to this day that she sold him out the way.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what still bothers him to this day. That's what.

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Both of those responses sound like two

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 3>people who are fucked. That's what I'm saying an interview

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 3>for years later and talking about it, and her being

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 3>like he's unfake. I'm gonna like it takes a lot

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 3>to go. Yeah, sound like people who fucked.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that was that was my feeling too. It sounds

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>like y'all are more passionate about each other than just

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>friends would be.

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 3>Right, are someone who you just thought whatever, Like I

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 3>don't even Yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot more

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 3>under the surface. Mm hmm.

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>And what's especially fascinating in this interview, and this is

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>my favorite part of the interview. At one point he

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>basically says like he's living this low key life now

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and really the only thing that matters to him are

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>his kids. And he says, and I'm quoting here, he says,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I have four terrific kids. Which is notable because he

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>actually has five kids, documented children that do not include

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Chloe Kardashian. Even if you're not including Chloe, there are

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>five of these niggas. But he's like, yeah, I got

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>four terrific kids.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:08.479
<v Speaker 4>Oh man, I don't know, but it is.

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>It is my favorite part of this because it at

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>least solidifies the fact that if he is not including

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>one of these kids, he probably isn't including a few others,

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>including Chloe kardash.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, He's such a good, bad guy.

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a fucking silly billy and I love him.

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm a great dad, fau lovely kids in my word,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean five? None of them talk to him?

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure.

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 2>No. Do you want to talk to him? Yeah? What

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna call? O?

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Jay?

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>And today? What do y'all talking about?

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Dad? You ready to talk? He says? How many times

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 2>do I have to tell you? It's OJ, I'm not Dad,

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm old Jay. You call me either juice or sir.

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 3>They're like no. Click.

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>So one of the things were one of the things

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that sort of started this rumor, right this where does

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.400
<v Speaker 1>this rumor come from? Is sort of like the big question.

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people ask, But what started the rumor

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>is actually in twenty thirteen when Robert Kardashian's ex wife,

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>his second ex wife, Ellen Pearson, came forward and insisted

0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>she goes to like some one of the magazine's news

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>outlets and insists that Robert, before he died, confess that

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Chloe was not his biological daughter. And he did it essentially,

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like right on his deathbed, he like told his then

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>wife like, Yo, that's not my that's not my real baby.

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>But nobody else. Why'd he tell his white.

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know, that's what you tell right, Yeah.

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he just had to get it off his chest.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Marry people they did, like they the number one I

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know, you know what I mean when people are married,

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 3>isn't that like your number one confidant or whatever?

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'll be telling my wife's stuff she don't even

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>care about. But I just need somebody to you know

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. We gotta fill the quiet we got.

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 1>We gotta gossip a little bit.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Secrets. I mean a deathbed secret. Yeah, Like, yo, that's crazy.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Why would that woman make that up?

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>So that's a great question. Why would she come forward too? Though?

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Kim and Chloe were pretty adamant deniers of this. They basically,

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>as soon as this comes out, they deny these rumors,

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>saying that this Ellen lady was just trying to make

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a quick buck off of the Kardashian name. But it

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>is worth noting that in twenty twelve, before the stepmom allegations,

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenner public looked into doing a paternity test to

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>prove that her three original hell Hounds were all Kardashians

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and that Chloe was the only person who refused to participate.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>So everybody goes, she goes, we just should do a

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>paternity test. Everybody's down, except Chloe, who says she doesn't

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>want to play along.

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 2>That's the biggest red flag to me of all of this.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Why was your mom when you're in your twenties be like, wait,

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I gotta check and make sure you guys are on mine. Yeah,

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy. That's like if your mom wants you to

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 2>take a p that's nuts, bro. Like that to me

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>feels like more evidence towards this than anything else.

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, especially since this came out before the Ellen situation,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 1>right right, Like this happens before, there's like this in

0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>fighting before it even becomes this big public speculation. You're

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>just playing with tternity tests as it relates to your kids.

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>If nothing else. That doesn't prove OJ, but it certainly

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>proves Robert ain't the daddy.

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 2>Also a level of cruelty that I don't appreciate it.

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 2>That's fucking cold. That's that's nice, cold man, Jesus Christ. Trauma.

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>They don't.

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm moved by this feel.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't become better people as this research goes along.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It's also worth noting that OJ's lawyers, his current lawyers,

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.759
<v Speaker 1>have said that privately, the Kardashians have reached out on

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a number of occasions requesting a paternity test. The lawyer

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm quoting this year, the Kardashians have been trying

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 1>to get a DNA test from my client for years now.

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Several years ago, around twenty thirteen, a producer from Keeping

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Up with the Kardashians called me up and said Chris

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>had given her given her blessing for the show to

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have mister sim and do It paternity tests with Chloe.

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>It was made clear to me that Chloe was also

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 1>involved with this. I was told that having the results

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of the paternity test shown on TV would be the

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>highest rated Kardashian show of all time. The producers offered

0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>me ten thousand dollars if I could convince mister Simpson

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 2>It, and OJ said, I mean he must not need

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the money that bad.

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I think ten thousand to the lawyer.

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Specifically, OJ wouldn't get any He can't get any kind

0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 2>of he can't a little bit. I think, Oh, Jacob,

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>what is big?

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 1>But I imagine maybe the salacious reveal is more.

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Damaging than he gets it. The dealing. Oh, this murderer

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 2>is a deadbeat dad dude.

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.880
<v Speaker 1>OJ's a lot of things, but he doesn't want to

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>be a bad friend, you know. He's like, I'm a lawyer,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm a loyal Robert Kardashian buddy.

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 3>Even with that, I'm like, cause I feel like they

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 3>would just be trying to get the ratings no matter

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 3>what the results were, or they can r tweet the

0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 3>results or whatever. But that's interesting that they're even entertaining

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.760
<v Speaker 3>this theory, you know, and have been entertaining it for

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 3>ten years.

0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 2>That was my feeling.

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>It's it's less of me believing that, like, oh, secretly

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>we're going to find out something on TV about OJ.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Being the father as much as it is, like y'all

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 1>are entertaining this enough that like it's not not true.

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It just isn't the truth that we necessarily suspected to be.

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, yeah, something's true. They all look alike. It's

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 3>like blonde cly hair, she's five ten, but can I

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 3>but usually like there would be one other person, like

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 3>this is four kids. I can see when there's two

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.240
<v Speaker 3>and you like my sisters five ten and my sister's

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 3>five ten like mom and I'm five yeah or whatever,

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.439
<v Speaker 3>Like there's tons of you know, siblings snatched that ship

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 3>jeans and shit, but they all look alike. And then

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>here you.

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Go, Yeah a strong as an ox right.

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Big she plus she was plus side, Like this is

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 3>all type of that difference.

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Like so, so we already talked about Chris Jenner sort

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of being open about her alleged affairs. There was also

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 1>a post that went viral years ago this I can't

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>remember what date this was, but one of them we're

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about Chris Jenner is sort of having all these affairs.

0:45:51.560 --> 0:45:54.080
<v Speaker 1>But one of the reasons that this becomes as public

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>as it did was because Kylie Jenner actually posted a

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>photo years ago with a guy named Alex Roden. Alex

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Roden and Chloe are taking a picture together. They're like

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>hugged up and smiling, and Kylie Jenner then posts that

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>photo and says, first official photo of my sister and

0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>her dad like father like daughter, and this Alex Rodin

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 1>dude is Chris Jenner's former hairstylist in the period that

0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Chloe is born.

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Now, why on earth would Kylie post that?

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, so she says it was a joke.

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 1>She like later comes out and goes like, hey, y'all,

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I was just being silly, joking. But it's like, to

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 1>your point, why are we joking about that? What's the

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>joke here?

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I think they're trying to play the lane of like,

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, it's so funny, like of course Chloe

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 3>is like our dad's Chloe's dad, Like the public's so funny. Well,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 3>just is like, nah, she looked too different for you

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 3>to be playing around like that.

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you want to play make one of them

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>little ones side baby. Don't do that with the the

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>one that's clearly a side baby, right right right.

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the other two you're like, okay, Like everyone looks

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 3>like siblings and she's just out there, like totally different.

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Did she look like that? Alex Roden, I want to

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:18.919
<v Speaker 3>see the post. I'm sure it's yeah.

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 2>They they don't.

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>They're two strong jawed people. I would I will say

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>that this is again, this is the Orenthal era of Chloe.

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's a strong jawed man and a

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 1>strong jawed woman hugging each other. And you go like,

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>I can see, I can see where that that happened.

0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, now I buy it, especially Okay, now we know

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 3>she was she was cheating for sure. I believe that

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 3>bad confession because again, I know they think everybody's after

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.919
<v Speaker 3>their money, but like, why would this woman come out

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 3>and lie and say that, Like why the ex wife

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:56.360
<v Speaker 3>or whatever or wife? WI don't.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>So here's the most surprising. This is the final little

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>piece that I found that I think was my favorite

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 1>little discovery. But the most surprising addition to the names

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of possible fathers for Chloe Kardashian is actually Lionel Richie.

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Lionel Richie apparently is a possible dad for this feels

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:23.240
<v Speaker 1>like Mama Mia but with dirt bags, but Lionel Ritchie

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 1>folks close to Chris Kardashian say that during her wild

0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>days in Hollywood, she and Lionel Ritchie had sex, and

0:48:30.680 --> 0:48:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Lionel even used to brag about it. This is what

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>people say. I don't have any definitive proof of his bragging.

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But also they point out how closely Chloe and Lionel's daughter,

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Sophia Richie resemble each other, that Sophia Richie and Chloe

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.279
<v Speaker 1>look alike, and subsequently they say that the affair that

0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>happened between Lionel and Chris probably made a baby, and

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that baby is Chloe Kardashian.

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Sense, because Chloe's coloring her the nose, all of that

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 3>looked dead like Sophia Richie Grange or whatever.

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I love that, you know these people.

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who the fuck Sophia Richie was.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I love the girls. She's so cute. Even looked like Nicole.

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know Nicole Richie is adopted by them,

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 3>but like that kind of coloring, that like kind of

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:26.279
<v Speaker 3>white passing, but you're also like what's up underneath there?

0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 3>But like your hair is why, Like you wouldn't just

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 3>look at them and be like, oh, they're black and white, like.

0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Che could have kids.

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess he can have kids and and he's

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>got one that maybe he wasn't aware of or he is,

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:45.319
<v Speaker 1>and we don't.

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.960
<v Speaker 2>We haven't been talking about it. Man, that's whatever she's

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 2>got going on. Strong face jeans. Chris Jenner has a type, right.

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I will say, I've seen line On Richie in person.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest face ever seen on a human being,

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like pound for pound, his

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 1>face is just fucking big. And it's not a judgment

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.760
<v Speaker 1>of the it's just big. It's a big fucking face.

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:14.879
<v Speaker 1>And Chloe got a big old face, and I think

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's something there.

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Where did you see Lionel Richie?

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I had a general meeting at ABC and he was

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:23.879
<v Speaker 1>hanging out I don't know, hollywoods wild man.

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was just kicking it. He was just hanging

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 2>out in a leather jacket.

0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's fucking Lionel Richie a leather jacket on.

0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a weird town.

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Actually that makes a lot of sense.

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So I guess the big question that I have for

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>both of you at this point, given all the research,

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 1>given the evidence that has now been laid in front

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.240
<v Speaker 1>of you, where do you stand as it relates to OJ.

0:50:56.560 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 1>And if not OJ, who do you suspect is the

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>actual father to Chloe Kardashian And keep in mind Robert

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>is obviously still in answer. If you decide that's that's your.

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 3>Choice, I'm gonna have to say Lionel Richie. I think

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 3>that Lionel Richie is her father.

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I love that.

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm going I'm going with the original. I think it's OJ.

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.799
<v Speaker 2>You still think you still think it's OJA. I think

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the juice loose, Damn.

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I suspect that, at least personally. I think I leaned

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>closer to a Linel Richie. Alex Rodin Camp, I think

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:42.919
<v Speaker 1>it's it's probably not OJ, But I do think that

0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>him and Chris did fuck. And I do think that

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 1>she is one not the heir to or not born

0:51:50.520 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of Robert Kardashians. Beautiful nuts, the big old beiful nuts

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>in the sky.

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:05.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's not Robert's daughter.

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 2>That's across the board. We all feel that way.

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I think we did it, yeall.

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 2>I think yeah.

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we did damage for sure, But I also

0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:22.439
<v Speaker 1>think we we covered the whole thing.

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Zosia, could you tell the people.

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Where they can find you and what cool shit you

0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 1>have going on.

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, you can find me, I guess on Instagram.

0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:34.360
<v Speaker 3>My handle is at Zosh rock XO s h R

0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.760
<v Speaker 3>o Q. I'll still be on Twitter. I'm miss Twitter,

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:41.040
<v Speaker 3>but no one's on there anymore. But I'm Zosia rock

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Star on there just felt normal and that's it. I'm

0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 3>not allowed to say anything else cool, right or else

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll be Yeah, I guess.

0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna get jumped by the SAG representatives.

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Have you run into him? Tell me to tell them

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 2>quit sending me so much fucking mail paper man, Come off,

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I get all the emails and now I gotta have

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the paper too. It's crazy. I know.

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Literally, I'm on OOF but uh Union strong though.

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:16.560
<v Speaker 2>God we're doing it.

0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Boy.

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>You want to tell the people where they can find you.

0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I'm just I'm not on tour as always.

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<v Speaker 2>Bring David to plate dot com for those dates we got,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some Ohio stuff, some New York stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know when this is coming out, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>keep coming out. I really appreciate it. It's really nice

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<v Speaker 2>to see all of your faces. That sounded like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mean it, I mean, I mean it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you didn't, you didn't mean it, but that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean me.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it. I didn't mean it, I do mean it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like you and as always, you can follow me

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<v Speaker 2>at Langston Kurran. I got a bunch of dates coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't think of them off the top of my head,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you know, following Instagram and I'll be updating

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<v Speaker 1>there soon. And if you want to send us your

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<v Speaker 1>own conspiracies, if you want to send us your own drops,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to tell us that Chris Jenner is not,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact Chloe's mama, and you have a different idea

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<v Speaker 1>for who gave birth to that big old monster, send

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<v Speaker 1>it all to mymama pod at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>We would love to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the whole shebang. Bye, bitch, my crow Chip

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<v Speaker 1>send your.

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<v Speaker 2>Kuala Bears are racist, the layers money, turny stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell me