Speaker 1: Hi all in.
Speaker 2: Happy holidays from the whole crew of the history of
Speaker 2: Curb Your Enthusiasm. Season four has come to a close,
Speaker 2: and as a special delight, we are re releasing two
Speaker 2: of our favorite episodes. Then tuned back in on January
Speaker 2: ninth for the start of season five.
Speaker 3: Hi everybody, I'm Susie Esmond. Who are you?
Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Garland.
Speaker 3: And who's our special guest today?
Speaker 1: Cheryl?
Speaker 3: Hi, Cheryl Hih. Hi guys, Hi Cheryl. This is fun
Speaker 3: and we are on season three, Episode ten, the Grand Opening.
Speaker 1: People love this episode. Yes, I love this episode.
Speaker 3: I am questioned about this episode frequently. I know you are.
Speaker 3: I always love like an episode where I'm not in
Speaker 3: it a lot, but I'm talked about. I like he
Speaker 3: left an impression.
Speaker 1: Yes, one quote, Yes, we'll get more from And that's
Speaker 1: not even my favorite quote. There's another one that I love.
Speaker 3: All right, There's so many in this one. So we
Speaker 3: start out the local news is on TV and Cheryl
Speaker 3: and Larry are getting ready for bed, and Cheryl's like,
Speaker 3: guess who canceled lunch with me again? Susie Green, She
Speaker 3: keeps canceling lunch at me and blah blah, blah, and
Speaker 3: she used the stupid excuse that she had a dental appointment,
Speaker 3: and Cheryl says, it's bullshit, And I love that dynamic
Speaker 3: created usually Cheryl and I are partners in crime. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: wear us against these two. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I think though that it wasn't developed then were developing
Speaker 1: it in the hour. Cheryl hated my character, that's right,
Speaker 1: And then the HBO said to keep that going, and
Speaker 1: Larry said, I don't have a show off. Those two
Speaker 1: hate each other and that's why it completely changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know a lot of these relationships. If
Speaker 3: you were saying about Larry and I in the last
Speaker 3: episode about our dynamic, how it changed, you know, and
Speaker 3: even you and I are die ynamic has changed. So
Speaker 3: it's something that you develop, especially when you're improvising. We
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. We're just making it up
Speaker 3: as we go along. Yes, So Larry says, maybe she's
Speaker 3: telling the truth. And then Cheryl asked Larry for a favor.
Speaker 3: She saw an osteopath for her cough, and the osteopaths said,
Speaker 3: if you take colon cleans, it'll just flush it right
Speaker 3: out of you, the cough right out of you, which
Speaker 3: sounds ridiculous to.
Speaker 1: Me, and Larry does question it. He does question and
Speaker 1: are I'll do it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't really believe it. And then we see in
Speaker 3: the background on the local news Andy Portico, who is
Speaker 3: the local restaurant critic.
Speaker 1: Played by Paul Wilson, who I've worked with before, who
Speaker 1: is a very funny man. He used to be on Cheers.
Speaker 1: He was not a.
Speaker 3: Regular, but he had a recurring role on Cheers, okay,
Speaker 3: and he's known Andy portgo for this thumbs up thumbs down,
Speaker 3: you know, that's his whole stick about restaurants. And he
Speaker 3: gives a horrible review to this restaurant, two thumbs down,
Speaker 3: and then Larry mentions he's coming into the opening. So
Speaker 3: it's a little sketchy. This guy is a hatchet man.
Speaker 3: You know, he's going to destroy he gives a bad review,
Speaker 3: the restaurant is over. He's controlling the fate of our restaurant,
Speaker 3: is what Larry says. And then oh, Larry mentions that
Speaker 3: Jeff's daughter, Sammy, goes to the same school as Andy
Speaker 3: Portico's Sun. So we cut to Larry and Jeff. They
Speaker 3: are in the health food store getting Sheryl colon cleansed
Speaker 3: it's the Rainbow health food store, and Larry always says
Speaker 3: he always feels more unhealthy in a health food store.
Speaker 3: And he asked Jeff about Susie's bullshit excuse, and Jeff says, no,
Speaker 3: it's true. She was at a dental appointment. I was
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: Now, not having seen this episode in years, I assumed
Speaker 1: I was lying when I said, no, it's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying I didn't remember the episode
Speaker 1: except little parts. And I was like, yeah, that's I'm lying.
Speaker 1: I guess I say it the same way either way.
Speaker 3: You're a very good liar, Yeah, I guess you're very
Speaker 3: used to it well. And Jeff Green is a very
Speaker 3: practiced liar, Yeah, much more so than Jeff Garland.
Speaker 1: I assume I don't really lie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Jeff Green and Larry David
Speaker 3: are big fucking liars on the show.
Speaker 1: Because lying only gets you into by the way this
Speaker 1: show is, this show, sample of lying gets you into
Speaker 1: worse trouble. And I've always felt that and that's the
Speaker 1: way I work. Big ears small mouth, also.
Speaker 3: Big ears small mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, love hearing, don't talk well.
Speaker 3: You have not followed that.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I have. I most certainly am. And especially
Speaker 1: by the way, Larry and I, that's our mantra with
Speaker 1: each other. Okay, like you know, if he tells me something,
Speaker 1: I don't say anything.
Speaker 3: I know that, okay, yeah, different, I see.
Speaker 1: What you're saying about people I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, we get it. So then Larry is
Speaker 3: the clerk where the colon cleanses, and the clerk shouts
Speaker 3: across to the cashier guy, where's the call? And everybody's
Speaker 3: staring at Larry about getting the coal.
Speaker 1: And blinking of everybody. Did you notice someone in that
Speaker 1: scene now as one of the customers, Aaron O'Malley.
Speaker 4: I didn't notice that.
Speaker 5: Shoot, I didn't notice see them because my friend Ben
Speaker 5: Falcone is the person that shouts it right, where's the okay,
Speaker 5: which I which I didn't. I totally forgot. The man
Speaker 5: is married to Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Who you also got on the show. She was in
Speaker 1: the with the doll and the toy start because he was.
Speaker 5: Looking for gosh, these guys, these guys are groundlings, and
Speaker 5: so I would you know, when we were casting stuff,
Speaker 5: I would always bring in my friends like you have
Speaker 5: to you have to see this person. You have to
Speaker 5: see that person, and they come in and.
Speaker 3: So Cheryl would bring in Groundlings and Jeff would bring
Speaker 3: in Second City.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the most part, Yeah, that was very true.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and they were all terrific and well trained
Speaker 3: improv people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the most part, they were all cast.
Speaker 5: It does feel like that. It does feel like that, Yeah,
Speaker 5: because they.
Speaker 3: Were all good. They were all good, and you know,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're working with somebody in that context improvising,
Speaker 3: you know whether they're good or not. It's it's like
Speaker 3: because you're you're on stage with them, and it's you know,
Speaker 3: and they're.
Speaker 1: Also the most equipped to do the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Larry screams is for my wife, you know,
Speaker 3: he gets all embarrassed from my wife. And then and
Speaker 3: then in the door he sees somebody that looks very familiar,
Speaker 3: a guy with a full head of dark hair, you know,
Speaker 3: walking out into the parking lot and he's and he's
Speaker 3: like realizing that's the chef that he hired. And he
Speaker 3: only hired the chef because he was bald. But Cheryl
Speaker 3: pointed out in that episode before this one that he
Speaker 3: only hired the chef because he was bald and Larry
Speaker 3: and Jeff confront the chef. What was his name, Jeff?
Speaker 1: I forgot Gomez played the chef.
Speaker 3: No, but not that with the chef's name. I forgot.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you that in a million years.
Speaker 3: And they're like, what's with the two pei?
Speaker 1: Phil? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's that?
Speaker 6: I thought you said you didn't well, yeah, I did
Speaker 6: came into the interview, Yes, I.
Speaker 2: I I just assumed and I was right that you're
Speaker 2: one of those people find that men who enhance their.
Speaker 1: Appearance are wrong and it stupid.
Speaker 6: So I took my to pay off. He came in
Speaker 6: ball just to get the job.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I deceived. I hope this doesn't you know,
Speaker 1: affect you know.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry, but but but it will. I know,
Speaker 6: but I don't trust you. I'm sorry. You gotta be
Speaker 6: ashamed of yourself. Let's go.
Speaker 3: And all that. That's it.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: That was hilarious anyway.
Speaker 1: Yes, but also Ian's explanation of that he thought that
Speaker 1: he shouldn't wear it for the interview, and then when
Speaker 1: he saw that Larry really had disgust for people wearing
Speaker 1: too pass the choice. The Nazi should have picked them up.
Speaker 1: That's extreme. And then so he wouldn't wear it whenever
Speaker 1: he saw Larry. And I think that's reasonable. But Larry's like,
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 3: Fll Larry doesn't trust him, and he is he's Larry's
Speaker 3: you ought to be ashamed of yourself. And Larry once
Speaker 3: told my husband, Jimmy has a shaved ted. He's ball,
Speaker 3: but he shaves his head. And Larry once told him
Speaker 3: that he's not really a part of the Ball brotherhood
Speaker 3: because he fakes it by trying to make it seem
Speaker 3: like he's part of the by shaving.
Speaker 1: A bald community.
Speaker 3: Does the bald community brotherhood? He says, also bald brotherhood.
Speaker 3: And then you're in the car, Larry and Jeff are
Speaker 3: in the car. And what was he thinking? He had
Speaker 3: no plan. He had no plan, you know, no system.
Speaker 3: And Larry says that Jeff would have a proclivity to
Speaker 3: hire a fat person as opposed to a thin person.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, I don't know if that's true
Speaker 1: about fat people. I think that's a false observation.
Speaker 3: It would depend I doubt it's true about bull people too.
Speaker 3: It's only no, no, no, I think it's true.
Speaker 1: Thinks that would be definitely true that you'd have a
Speaker 1: proclivity for other ball people like you know, that's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he says, the community, the brotherhood, that is real.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I feel an affinity for curly heads.
Speaker 3: What for women with curly hair? I feel an affinity
Speaker 3: for them.
Speaker 1: Oh, so would you hire someone.
Speaker 3: H But I feel because it's such a thing when
Speaker 3: you grow when you grow up with curly hair. It
Speaker 3: is a thing, trust me. And whenever I see somebody
Speaker 3: with curly hair, we always say what products do you use?
Speaker 3: There's always like some kind of connection about having curly hair.
Speaker 3: That's too funny.
Speaker 5: But by the way, Jebo, one of my favorite lines
Speaker 5: in this show, and I won't even quote it, but
Speaker 5: when you guys were talking about this chef wearing the
Speaker 5: two pay in the day and not wearing it at night,
Speaker 5: and you said, what kind of life is that? He's
Speaker 5: like living a duel in consistance.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is also I Belie leave. The
Speaker 1: first time Larry and I just have a conversation, like
Speaker 1: a full on conversation about stuff in the show, I
Speaker 1: think before it was more succinct. And I love when
Speaker 1: they're yes, yes, that's because that's the way I like
Speaker 1: to work. I don't care how much screen time. I
Speaker 1: just like working with air. I don't like when it
Speaker 1: has to be succinct.
Speaker 3: Well, then you guys go into a whole riff on
Speaker 3: this thing about.
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, so I do so, so what Well, I'm
Speaker 6: just want you to notice, Okay, I noticed is duly noted.
Speaker 1: All right, I know you. I knew.
Speaker 7: Before.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was going to say that too,
Speaker 6: say that.
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that. I knew
Speaker 3: you were going to say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which
Speaker 3: was very funny and.
Speaker 1: It's funny and I love it. Do you remember in
Speaker 1: the in the Richard Kindes episode, I was talking about
Speaker 1: the scene at the entrance to the cemetery that it
Speaker 1: was cut out. Yeah, and they killed me because it
Speaker 1: was one of those scenes it was just so real
Speaker 1: and funny and they killed me. So that's what this
Speaker 1: scene is like like.
Speaker 3: That, right, okay, right, And you know, I think those
Speaker 3: scenes are important between all of us, just to show
Speaker 3: what the relationships are.
Speaker 1: They're very important.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's one of the things that I really noticed
Speaker 5: watching these two episodes, you know, watching this one, and
Speaker 5: because back in these early days. So many of my
Speaker 5: scenes with Larry were in our bedroom, yes, you know,
Speaker 5: getting ready for bed, and it's like it didn't feel
Speaker 5: like a scene.
Speaker 3: It just felt like we're talking about stuff.
Speaker 5: And I really missed that part, you know, because people
Speaker 5: are intimacy. Intimacy, Yeah, people are different when they're out
Speaker 5: with their face.
Speaker 1: By the way, those scenes we believe you're married. It
Speaker 1: firmly establishes your relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: By the way, when we were shooting, especially during that time,
Speaker 5: sometimes I would feel like, oh, I have a dual existence,
Speaker 5: Like I think in one world I'm.
Speaker 3: Married to Larry, and then another world I am a
Speaker 3: completely different person.
Speaker 5: But when we were shooting, because you know, just because
Speaker 5: of the nature of the show and it's improvised, and
Speaker 5: usually you know, the takes are pretty long because we.
Speaker 3: Just we don't know what we'd I want to.
Speaker 5: Cut and it will just be quiet, you know, scenes
Speaker 5: with me and Larry just lying in bed or brushing
Speaker 5: our teeth.
Speaker 3: I love those scenes. Yeah, I love those scenes. And
Speaker 3: a lot of times I know there was not stuff
Speaker 3: that was written, but great stuff came out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a skeleton on those scenes, the skeleton script.
Speaker 1: It was a Bear Essentials.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I miss I really miss those because that
Speaker 5: that was really fun and like you're saying intimate, okay,
Speaker 5: go ahead, okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, if anyone doesn't need to say okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, it's you. I'm the annoying one. I'm the
Speaker 1: bipolar one.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 1: We're just so happy to have you here to talk
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 3: So then you guys established no chef and the restaurant
Speaker 3: is opening in four days because Larry now has to
Speaker 3: fire the guy because he has a two pay. He
Speaker 3: can't he can't have the guy be the chef because
Speaker 3: he has to pay. So then you're gonna go to
Speaker 3: Sammy's school and drop off Sammy's lunch, and then you're
Speaker 3: gonna go to the restaurant. So you go to Sammy's
Speaker 3: school and Larry sees these all these kids, these teenagers
Speaker 3: because it's a K through twelve school and they're all
Speaker 3: both First, Larry sees the kid. He goes, oh, look
Speaker 3: at that kid. He's going through chemo therapy. And Jeff
Speaker 3: explains to him, no, there is a kid going through
Speaker 3: chemo therapy at the school. And all the other seniors
Speaker 3: shaved their heads in solidarity with this kid who's going
Speaker 3: through chemo.
Speaker 1: May I say something logic wise, Yeah, why is Sammy
Speaker 1: going to school with seniors in high school? She's like eight?
Speaker 3: Because Larry asked you that question and you said it's
Speaker 3: a K through twelve school. Oh, I'm sorry he asked
Speaker 3: you that question. The thing so because obviously it was
Speaker 3: odd to him as well. Yes, And Larry has a
Speaker 3: moment where he.
Speaker 6: Says, you know, maybe maybe one day I'll got a
Speaker 6: chance to do something good for somebody like that.
Speaker 1: It's really touching. You've already got a kind of a
Speaker 1: head start.
Speaker 3: Actually, maybe someday I'll be able to do something, you know,
Speaker 3: like that shave my head in solidarity and show support
Speaker 3: to somebody. Maybe someday I'll be able to do that.
Speaker 3: And knowing him as we know him, you just think
Speaker 3: he'll never be able to do head start.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: And then there's a game of dodgeball, which I you
Speaker 3: know what, I remember dodgeball very very well and element
Speaker 3: I hated dodgeball terrifying. We had this really sadistic gym teacher,
Speaker 3: mister Anderson, and he used, you know, the boys used
Speaker 3: to throw the ball and you would get these burnings,
Speaker 3: I know, and he would enjoy it. I really think
Speaker 3: he used.
Speaker 5: To enjoy the same thing happened with me. And it
Speaker 5: was terrifying. It was terrified that ball coming. I could
Speaker 5: really get hurt.
Speaker 1: We used to play a game called bombardment, which is
Speaker 1: a little bit because dodgeball there's lots of balls going
Speaker 1: at once. Bombardment it's one ball that you throw and
Speaker 1: try and hit somebody and knock them out. And I
Speaker 1: remember it was very disturbing for me. I was very athletic,
Speaker 1: so I was in until the end. But that being said,
Speaker 1: the weakest kids were the first targets.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I saw these poor, sweet, nerdy kids who were
Speaker 1: horrified getting like it was just so terrifying and wrong. Yeah, bombardment.
Speaker 1: Dodgeball should be voluntary own. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know what what I recall is the boys.
Speaker 3: If the boys liked you, they'd hit you extra hard,
Speaker 3: you know, because they were eight or nine. And we
Speaker 3: need to show how exactly. So there is a game
Speaker 3: of dodgeball and we see that Andy Portico thumbs up
Speaker 3: thumbs down, is playing and Larry gets into the game
Speaker 3: with Andy and Portico says, I'm coming to your restaurant
Speaker 3: next week to review it. And you see, Portico is
Speaker 3: fucking brutal in this dodge ball game. He's hitting kids.
Speaker 3: He's just competitive. You're really taking him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's hitting the kids. It is really funny.
Speaker 3: It is really funny. Well you see who this guy is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a great indication of who this guy is.
Speaker 3: It's a character thing. And then he starts going back
Speaker 3: and forth with Larry and they get into it.
Speaker 4: All right, you hit the ground, hit the ground, hit
Speaker 4: the ground.
Speaker 9: Portoco out, well, even done.
Speaker 3: Sorry, And finally Larry throws the ball at him really
Speaker 3: hard and he breaks his fingers.
Speaker 1: Not good now, by the way, When I come out
Speaker 1: and I say, what the fuck, I think that's the
Speaker 1: first what the fuck. I'm being serious when I say
Speaker 1: these things because I've said it to him so many
Speaker 1: times on the show. Yeah, that might be the first
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And I have two pieces of information.
Speaker 1: One's a trivia piece and one's so even though I
Speaker 1: say I'm walking off to go deliver it to Sammy,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm back in my producer's chair watching on
Speaker 1: the monitor. So I'm sitting there and Larry looks at
Speaker 1: me before the scene's being shot, and he goes, you
Speaker 1: know what to do, and I go, I do my
Speaker 1: job on the show from the very beginning to the
Speaker 1: very end was extra. Watch my eyes. I've watched the scene, certainly,
Speaker 1: but I was the one watching the extress and I'm
Speaker 1: not allowed to talk to the extress. Neither is the
Speaker 1: director the AD.
Speaker 3: So it was wait, so let me ask, wait, is
Speaker 3: that true? Dale? It was Dale? Yeah, Dale, They're not.
Speaker 3: They're literally only the AD is allowed to talk to extras.
Speaker 3: That's a rule. Yes, I know that.
Speaker 1: He's the one who communicates with them, so otherwise they'd
Speaker 1: be hearing things from a million different directions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dale was really Stern.
Speaker 1: Dale Stern was running in circles that day because there
Speaker 1: were so many extras, being afraid of the ball in
Speaker 1: a gigantic way, throwing the ball with a spin like
Speaker 1: nothing was real. So I'm doing that, doing that, doing that. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now that day was a really I've got goosebumps because
Speaker 1: I never forget it. So We're at lunchtime and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting in the parking lot away from everybody in the
Speaker 1: director's chair, and I get a phone call telling me
Speaker 1: I've been casting Daddy Daycare. Then I'm going to be
Speaker 1: one of the leads in a movie with Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 1: And I remember sitting there on the set. I could
Speaker 1: not believe it. I could I was in awe And
Speaker 1: actually aerinon O'Malley took a picture of me in that
Speaker 1: moment of me being on the.
Speaker 3: Phone, But that was Can I just say tell everybody
Speaker 3: who Erin O'Malley is Erin O'Malley was our line producer
Speaker 3: at the time.
Speaker 1: Who became coexact and exec who even from the moment
Speaker 1: she was line producer, she should have been given the
Speaker 1: credit of executive producer.
Speaker 3: What she messed she was terrific. And she's now a director.
Speaker 3: I'm she directs like crazy now.
Speaker 1: She was an executive producer of You Girl, like so
Speaker 1: many big shows she's been the executive producer on and
Speaker 1: I know because she's produced two of my movies that
Speaker 1: she's always wanted to direct, and so I'm so happy
Speaker 1: for her, and I'm seeing her in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: So you could tell me to say hello.
Speaker 3: To please say hell. Erin O'Malley, We say hello, Okay.
Speaker 1: Cool. So that's a trivia and a piece of information
Speaker 1: on extras.
Speaker 3: And extras are a whole other thing.
Speaker 1: Background is a big ball of interesting.
Speaker 3: Yes on many levels, Cheryl, What were you going to say, honey.
Speaker 5: No, no, I was I'm just agreeing with you about
Speaker 5: the extras.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had some moments.
Speaker 1: Yes. By the way, whenever we film with background, I
Speaker 1: go around to them and thank them for doing the show, yes,
Speaker 1: which which they're always like what I go, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: thank you very much.
Speaker 3: For doing That's very sweet to me. The most challenging
Speaker 3: thing with extras was during the pandemic. That was very challenging.
Speaker 3: That's later on.
Speaker 5: I'm just what it's a one little background story and
Speaker 5: it's not about this episode, but it's it'll be one
Speaker 5: in the future. And I couldn't even tell you which one.
Speaker 5: But and I don't know if you guys were there
Speaker 5: that day, but we were shooting something where, you know,
Speaker 5: like a wake type of a thing in somebody's living room.
Speaker 3: Somebody had just died.
Speaker 1: And no, that's already happened that season one, beloved ant.
Speaker 3: Well, it could have been something else. I The funk
Speaker 3: Howser Memorial's been many.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this one is is later later, because
Speaker 5: I'm sure it was the second idea told background you're
Speaker 5: not to talk in this scene, you know, just the principles,
Speaker 5: and so it's kind of a quiet scene and Larry
Speaker 5: walks up to one of the background and says, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know who died, but let's say
Speaker 5: his name was Frank.
Speaker 3: And he's like, how did you know Frank?
Speaker 5: And the background players just started mouthing words.
Speaker 1: I completely forgotten that. And there was one you know,
Speaker 1: Larry and I for the rest of time would imitate that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know where that was. That was
Speaker 1: at the scene where Larry throws a twenty dollars bill
Speaker 1: on the ground because he stole the perfume for you.
Speaker 3: That's when he's going on a funk Houser memorial. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: And then Larry was like, what are you doing? And
Speaker 3: the guy is still like mouthing words back to Larry.
Speaker 1: Well, it was Larry's fault for asking him a question. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5: Larry was like, what's going on in this scene? And
Speaker 5: you know, did they stopped it down and asked the
Speaker 5: guy and he said, I was told not to talk
Speaker 5: and then Larry. If my memory serves me, I think
Speaker 5: Larry was so taken with the guy that he said,
Speaker 5: I'm going to ask you a question you can answer.
Speaker 3: Think you got a lie in that day.
Speaker 1: For a period that didn't happen towards the later seasons,
Speaker 1: but for a period we upgraded more extras than I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life, including beloved ant. All those
Speaker 1: people sitting on the couch in the living room were background,
Speaker 1: and suddenly they all had parts and they were free
Speaker 1: to talk. And by the way they were, they were
Speaker 1: fucking good too.
Speaker 3: And Jeff, let's just clarify for people who don't know,
Speaker 3: extras are paid more if they speak a background.
Speaker 1: If they have no extras, they're upgraded to an under five.
Speaker 1: Or if they do more than five, they get it.
Speaker 1: They're paid more.
Speaker 3: They're any credit, they get it. You know, you put
Speaker 3: it on.
Speaker 1: Your they're acting, and that's an acting job. Not that
Speaker 1: I think background is acting. Great. Background it is is
Speaker 1: so appreciative.
Speaker 3: It's hard to do. It is hard to do, and
Speaker 3: by the way, they got to do it over and
Speaker 3: over and over again, take after take after take. Okay,
Speaker 3: so now we're back at Bobo's at the restaurant, and
Speaker 3: Larry says he they're all upset that everybody's there, Jim
Speaker 3: Swinson and Susie Nakamura and lu DiMaggio and Michael York
Speaker 3: and apparently Ted is gone. Ted has taking his money
Speaker 3: and left, and Larry said he had to fire him.
Speaker 3: He's a liar. And now they're all, you know, nonplussed.
Speaker 3: You know, Portico is gonna they're stuck in the mire,
Speaker 3: in the muck, and Portico is going to slaughter around.
Speaker 1: Hold on. That is the minutia kind of thing that
Speaker 1: Larry loves. I love as a viewer. I love being
Speaker 1: there watching it.
Speaker 3: When he said it's a language thing too, you know,
Speaker 3: it's a use of legs.
Speaker 1: The nuance of both words that might mean the same
Speaker 1: and going back and forth. I find that so delightful.
Speaker 1: And Larry's great.
Speaker 3: At it, great at it. Well, he said, he's a
Speaker 3: word smith. And then they tell Larry he's got to
Speaker 3: go apologize to Portico. So he does. He goes to
Speaker 3: apologize to Portico, and we see Portico's got two too big.
Speaker 3: His hands are completely wrapped up. Why for a couple
Speaker 3: of fingers, I don't know, but it works and and
Speaker 3: Eldie apologizes, and he won't be able to review the
Speaker 3: restaurant now because he can't do thumbs up with thumbs down.
Speaker 3: That's his stick. If he can't do thumbs up thumbs down,
Speaker 3: it's over for him. And Portico tells him about this
Speaker 3: chef that he knows who was just at Martinez in
Speaker 3: New York, Gee Berney Burney. What was his name was
Speaker 3: that it Jeff, It's gee, he's friend. And then and
Speaker 3: then Portico's assistant brings him spaghetti and Portico is completely
Speaker 3: abusive to the assistant. So you see what a fucking
Speaker 3: asshole this guy is. And eld starts to feed him
Speaker 3: the spaghetti, which is really gross.
Speaker 6: Let's make this happen, Larry, okay, come on, no.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, and will you stop it?
Speaker 1: No? No you please?
Speaker 3: You come on?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good, it's good.
Speaker 6: Isn't that parcas?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh my gosh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, So he starts hold on, He
Speaker 1: starts out giving small amounts, and then he starts shoving
Speaker 1: torch folds, which is hilarious.
Speaker 3: Then we go out and I think I think he
Speaker 3: did that because he's no longer reviewing the restaurant, so
Speaker 3: we didn't have to be nice to him anymore.
Speaker 1: But I think his big motivation was the way he
Speaker 1: treated his assistance. It was horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're back. And then cut to the restaurant and
Speaker 3: they were interviewing Gie Bernet, who is played by Paul Sand.
Speaker 1: Paul Sand who is Second City and also a legend
Speaker 1: and show legend and a true and a true genius
Speaker 1: on so many levels. He had the highest rated show
Speaker 1: ever to be canceled on Network TV.
Speaker 3: What was that? It was a sitcom?
Speaker 1: I can't Yes, it was sitcom. It was on Saturday
Speaker 1: Nights with Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart and all that,
Speaker 1: and it was really successful. And I forgot the read
Speaker 1: he told me the story. I cannot remember it now,
Speaker 1: but I think that's a fascinating piece of trivia.
Speaker 3: Well why did they cancel it? Who knows?
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but it was at the time. It
Speaker 1: may still be the highest rated show ever to get canceled.
Speaker 3: Okay, And we see Paul Sand is playing Gee and
Speaker 3: he's French and he's very you know, particularly he will
Speaker 3: not cook salmon. He will not take it, He will
Speaker 3: not poach it. He did, will not cook with capers.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate you.
Speaker 3: See, he's like an EXCES crazy guy. And then Larry
Speaker 3: notices a number tattooed on his forearm and assumes that
Speaker 3: he is a Holocaust survivor because when you entered a
Speaker 3: concentration camp, they tattooed a number onto your arm because
Speaker 3: you were just cattle. You were not a human being.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, Gee starts she cockstucker and starts,
Speaker 3: you know, cursoring. Then we cut to Cheryl and Larry
Speaker 3: getting into Larry's car, and Larry's car is filthy and disgusting,
Speaker 3: and Cheryl complains about it that it's disgusting, and Larry says,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to a car wash, and Cheryl says,
Speaker 3: I don't have time. I'm meeting Susie for lunch. If
Speaker 3: I'm late, she's going to be angry at me again,
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah, and Larry says it's only going
Speaker 3: to take two minutes, and then they're in the car wash. Now, Cheryl,
Speaker 3: I know you remember shooting this scene.
Speaker 1: Oh I do, yes, by the way, I remember it,
Speaker 1: and I was in awe. I could not believe it.
Speaker 1: Larry and I just kept saying this phrase over to
Speaker 1: one another.
Speaker 3: What a sport, Yes, you really were.
Speaker 1: We said that maybe a hundred times. Wow.
Speaker 3: So you went into a real car wash? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: he was a real car wash, which is crazy. So
Speaker 3: let me let me just say what happens, and then
Speaker 3: we'll go to that. In the car wash, Cheryl's getting
Speaker 3: cramps from her calling cleans, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: the car is stuck. It's not moving. You're banging on
Speaker 3: the window. Cheryl has to go really bad. Larry calls,
Speaker 3: tries to get the number of the car wash. He
Speaker 3: finally gets it. He's screaming at the woman. She can't
Speaker 3: hear him because it's so loud.
Speaker 1: And by the way, she's smiling all through that, which
Speaker 1: I thought was awesome.
Speaker 3: Yes, and then Cheryl can't stand it anymore. She's got
Speaker 3: a poop and she gets out of the car.
Speaker 8: Larry, you wait, wait, I gonna go. I gotta go,
Speaker 8: I gotta go, I gotta go.
Speaker 3: What do you remember about that?
Speaker 5: Well, you know, we kept shooting the end side of
Speaker 5: the car before I had to actually get out, and uh,
Speaker 5: it was and forth when are you going back?
Speaker 3: And how did they how did they shoot them?
Speaker 5: They just turned on the air condition or the car wash,
Speaker 5: and they said, do you want to try it, because
Speaker 5: it would be great to get your face and just
Speaker 5: do as much as you can.
Speaker 10: And I was like, all right, what a sport and
Speaker 10: started walking through how many takes?
Speaker 3: Do you remember? How many takes?
Speaker 5: I know we at least did it twice, because I
Speaker 5: remember having to dry off everything and change and drying.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm pretty sure it was only twice,
Speaker 1: and the stunt double didn't need to do it.
Speaker 3: I don't think she ever did. No, No, but I
Speaker 3: hope you. I hope you went home and took a shower.
Speaker 3: No need was beyond clean after that. Okay, So Cheryl,
Speaker 3: as we know, gets caught in the hall flapping straps
Speaker 3: and all of that gets out of the car, and
Speaker 3: then we cut to it is the grand opening of
Speaker 3: Bobos and Dumb Name Bobo and Jeff and Larry are
Speaker 3: talking and Jeff tells Larry that Susie's craze. She doesn't
Speaker 3: believe Cheryl got stuck in a car wash. So we're
Speaker 3: seeing that the whole thing between us and Larry to
Speaker 3: the group, So we want to put down bread or
Speaker 3: we want to put down olives, and Gee says to
Speaker 3: the background, no olives, no, no, no olives.
Speaker 4: What do you do with the pit?
Speaker 3: They discuss lemon and water, and again he's like, motherfucking
Speaker 3: cocksucking asshole. And it's not the grand opening yet. There
Speaker 3: are just at the rest of them made a mistake. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and Simaggio says, I'm beginning to think it's involuntary, the
Speaker 3: screaming out, so they're starting to figure out the Gee
Speaker 3: character has Tourette's and that Portico did this on purpose
Speaker 3: to fuck them. Yes. Yeah, because of the restaurant the
Speaker 3: way it was. It's an open kitchen.
Speaker 5: It's an open kitchen so everyone can watch the chef
Speaker 5: and can be a part of that experience.
Speaker 3: And when he was in Martinez in New York, it
Speaker 3: was the kitchen was in the back, so it didn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Larry says he can't fire him because he's a Holocaust
Speaker 3: Friver cut to Larry and Cheryl getting dressed again in
Speaker 3: the bedroom. Another scene in the bedroom, Cheryl and Larry fetching,
Speaker 3: and Cheryl says, is this two nts landing? And Larry
Speaker 3: has no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Speaker 1: That's one of the great lines. I know it's a show,
Speaker 1: but I have no idea what that means. That's a
Speaker 1: great loan because that back then, there's no way I
Speaker 1: watched Notts Landing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew it was knew in the ether, you
Speaker 3: know that what No, No, I knew it was a show.
Speaker 1: Because I followed TV. I used to get the fall
Speaker 1: preview TV.
Speaker 3: There were as many shows, so you knew what shows
Speaker 3: there were. It was a hand.
Speaker 1: But for those kinds of shows, it was not Landing.
Speaker 3: In Dallas and Dynasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dynasty too, Yeah, that's right. Those were the primetime soaps,
Speaker 1: is what they initially called him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry doesn't get the reference. And Larry says, and
Speaker 3: quite astutely, he doesn't understand why this chef doesn't curse
Speaker 3: in French? Why in English?
Speaker 4: He's got a point, Nobody.
Speaker 3: What I saw was such a good question. Cheryl says
Speaker 3: she's not looking forward to running into Susie Green at
Speaker 3: the opening. She hates me and she won't even talk
Speaker 3: to me. And then we are at the grand opening
Speaker 3: and everybody's there, Jeff's parents are there, Cheryl's parents are there.
Speaker 3: Louis is there sitting with Joyce. His real wife was
Speaker 3: his day. His assistant, the janitor Caroline aaron I forgot
Speaker 3: the name of her character. The housekeeper was yes, Dora
Speaker 3: was there. Everyone's there. Everybody has bells on the table,
Speaker 3: and Larry sees a whole group of investors and are
Speaker 3: wearing Larry sees the investors hanging out at the bar,
Speaker 3: and he goes to the investors and Jim Swinson's a
Speaker 3: little drunk, and where's Susie. Everybody's asking where I am?
Speaker 1: And way, also, if I can point out, I'm wearing
Speaker 1: a red shirt today, but back then, I was wearing
Speaker 1: a dress shirt in this color, the bright red. Yes,
Speaker 1: and all I thought to myself, Oh, that's insane, that's insane,
Speaker 1: because it was really No one wears a red shirt
Speaker 1: like that with their.
Speaker 3: True red dress shirt yet little redress shirt.
Speaker 1: It was nuts.
Speaker 3: So Larry goes to say hello to Gee at the thing,
Speaker 3: and Gee is very upset because Gee missed the lottery
Speaker 3: by one number. And he shows Larry the numbers on
Speaker 3: his arms that he wrote down his lottery numbers, so
Speaker 3: the numbers were not and he spits he spits into
Speaker 3: his finger and hears it all and he rubs it
Speaker 3: off and erases it. So Larry realizes he's not a
Speaker 3: Holocaust survivor. He's a lottery player.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to say something. This is the first
Speaker 1: time that he ever used an outside idea that wasn't
Speaker 1: his ever, And it was also the first time where
Speaker 1: I said, you know this comedian, I know David Feldman
Speaker 1: has a great idea, and that was David Feldman's idea
Speaker 1: was because Larry loved it right away. But Larry didn't
Speaker 1: use anyone's outside Well, yes, it's.
Speaker 3: Not true, Jeff. We learned in the prior episode he
Speaker 3: used Cheryl's idea for the baby Jesus.
Speaker 1: But that was not Cheryl's idea. She didn't pitch it
Speaker 1: to him. She was telling me what she was experiencing.
Speaker 1: That doesn't count. This is the one time and he
Speaker 1: loved he knew David Feldman, and he loved the idea
Speaker 1: and he used it. So I want to give David.
Speaker 3: Feldman was very funny, So Gee is not a Holocaust survivor.
Speaker 3: And then we have a montage of everybody drinking and
Speaker 3: laughing and having a great bell ringing and bell ringing
Speaker 3: a big success and all of a sudden, Gee screams
Speaker 3: out shit.
Speaker 4: Says cocksucker, asshole, soon of a bitch.
Speaker 1: Maybe one day I got a chance to do something
Speaker 1: good for somebody like that.
Speaker 6: Scum sucking motherfucking whore.
Speaker 4: Cock cock chisum grandma talk bum fuck turn fat count
Speaker 4: piss ship bucker and bowls damn it hell flank.
Speaker 5: Ship you god damn motherfucking bitch, Fuck you your car
Speaker 5: wash cunt.
Speaker 4: I had a deadal.
Speaker 1: Appointment Latio colingus French kissy rim job right schmull push.
Speaker 8: Pussy pig boy cot girl.
Speaker 1: Copy I e I.
Speaker 3: Fuck head, shit face, cocksucker, asshole, son of a bitch
Speaker 3: or something like that. I was writing really quickly. Yes,
Speaker 3: And then you see Larry look at him and then
Speaker 3: have a memory of the bald kids at the school
Speaker 3: at Sammy's school who shaved their heads in solidarity, and
Speaker 3: you hear him say, maybe one day I'll be able
Speaker 3: to do something like that.
Speaker 5: I did like the flashback. We don't have that many
Speaker 5: flashbacks on curves.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but that one made perfect sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, did you remind And the fog got the
Speaker 3: dog And then Larry just you know, outbursts with his curses,
Speaker 3: and then Jeff outbursts with cock and chisholm, and you
Speaker 3: know we're all so used to that.
Speaker 1: Well, hold on, this is really interesting, Larry said, for
Speaker 1: the next take, one last cock, one less grandma. That's
Speaker 1: the note I got. I don't know anyone in the
Speaker 1: history of show business who's ever got a note one
Speaker 1: less cocked, one less grandma.
Speaker 3: And Michael Yorke with bug iron balls, yeah, and Jim
Speaker 3: Swinson very uncomfortable cursing. And then Cheryl chimes in, you
Speaker 3: goddamn son of a bitch. What did you say, you
Speaker 3: god damn son of a bitch? You ended with bit
Speaker 3: And then just at that moment I walk in, Cheryl
Speaker 3: is facing the door. I assume she's talking to me,
Speaker 3: and I say, now here's I'll tell you about. I say, famously,
Speaker 3: fuck you, you car washcunt. I had a dental appointment,
Speaker 3: but we shot that. I was in the trailer. We
Speaker 3: shot that at a restaurant on Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: And I was in that trailer starting at about six
Speaker 3: o'clock at night, and we ended up shooting that scene
Speaker 3: at six o'clock in the morning. It was all night.
Speaker 3: I was sitting in my trailer and I never You
Speaker 3: both know this. I never pre write lines ever. This
Speaker 3: is the only time I ever pre wrote sitting in
Speaker 3: my and also because usually you're just listening and you're responding,
Speaker 3: this was I was walking in, saying something and leaving,
Speaker 3: so it kind of made sense that I would know
Speaker 3: with the line. And I was thinking, Okay, Susie's always
Speaker 3: into alliterations, you fat fuck, you four eyed fuck, and
Speaker 3: I came up with car washcunt. And when I said
Speaker 3: that that line, Larry said to me, don't make a
Speaker 3: reference to the episode, because nobody's doing that. We're all
Speaker 3: just cursing because we're in solidarity with me. Do you
Speaker 3: know that that's what I said? I said, my character
Speaker 3: doesn't know that. She walks in and she thinks Cheryl
Speaker 3: is cursing at her. So he said, do it a
Speaker 3: couple times your way, and do it a couple of
Speaker 3: times my way, and I did, and he used my way,
Speaker 3: which I'm glad of because it was a great line.
Speaker 8: We'll be right back, stay tuned, and we're back.
Speaker 1: My favorite swearing thing was Louie Night.
Speaker 3: Louie Night from leg boycock girl cock ya ya ya,
Speaker 3: and we knocked.
Speaker 5: At each other after the young the whole place just
Speaker 5: bursted the laughter because.
Speaker 3: We're like, Paul also was great, Paulo rip job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Paul was great. But I remember Louis
Speaker 1: being so perfect and they said, let's do it again.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, I remember, I got really upset. Why
Speaker 1: that is perfection? Boycot girl kye. And then he did
Speaker 1: something else that which they instructed and it's not Larry,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless boycott girl cocky yea yea, oh, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite lines.
Speaker 3: It was a great line and only Louis and I
Speaker 3: and no one else would say and the way he
Speaker 3: said it is hilarious. And then Richard Lewis is cursing.
Speaker 3: Then that is cursing that everybody. And it was just
Speaker 3: a wonderful, joyous free for all of everybody.
Speaker 1: Fuck you, Grandma's yea yea and Larry's standing in the
Speaker 1: middle of it. Very satisfying.
Speaker 3: Are satisfied? Yeah, And that was the end of the season.
Speaker 5: You don't what I remember about this episode, especially because,
Speaker 5: as you guys know, after every season, Larry would say.
Speaker 3: I don't know, this might be it. I think this
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 5: And that season I really felt like, oh man, this
Speaker 5: is it. And like you said, Susie, we shot all night.
Speaker 5: Everybody was there all night, and I remember when I
Speaker 5: was driving home the sun was rising yep. And then
Speaker 5: I started getting like Kiri and I said, oh my god,
Speaker 5: that's the last time we're gonna shoot Curb. And then
Speaker 5: it's very also very funny that that would be.
Speaker 3: How we go out yet end. The last memory of
Speaker 3: everyone was just like screaming out of.
Speaker 1: Well, no, if I'm not mistaken, that's the first season
Speaker 1: long storyline. Correct.
Speaker 3: Season two we didn't have, Well, no season two did.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what it was, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: as intricate.
Speaker 1: It was intermittent. If I'm not mistaken. Season two, this
Speaker 1: is the first not down drag out from episode one
Speaker 1: to episode ten. The main storyline is the restaurant, right,
Speaker 1: and everything drives that. What I find amazing about our
Speaker 1: show and it's always made me laugh. Whatever happened the
Speaker 1: last season doesn't exist in the new season. We never
Speaker 1: mentioned the restaurant. There's no house doing it.
Speaker 3: How about, well, it's not in this season. Oh no,
Speaker 3: it isn't this season. We're unpregnant?
Speaker 1: Is that this season?
Speaker 3: I think it was this season Nanny from Hell, Yes,
Speaker 3: the Nanny was this season, and then there's no baby,
Speaker 3: and nobody ever mentions it ever, No, I know.
Speaker 1: The only time where it almost happened is in which
Speaker 1: was the Coffee? Was what season?
Speaker 3: Season ten?
Speaker 1: So season eleven, there was a reference to Mocha Joe
Speaker 1: dying of COVID. Yes, and it was pretty funny the
Speaker 1: way it was written, but they cut it out. It
Speaker 1: was cut out completely. But that's the only time I
Speaker 1: ever saw a reference to the season before and it
Speaker 1: didn't make it.
Speaker 3: I think there's been a few others. We'll keep an
Speaker 3: eye out find out. Well.
Speaker 5: It's like what we were talking about earlier, that Curb
Speaker 5: started out as a win hour special on HBO, wasn't
Speaker 5: meant to be a series. And in the winter special,
Speaker 5: Larry and I had two kids right right, Oh, we
Speaker 5: never saw them. We talked about them a little bit,
Speaker 5: that they were off at summer camp or something, and
Speaker 5: then when the show started we started shooting the show
Speaker 5: as a series, he just never never talked about him again,
Speaker 5: just pretended like that never works.
Speaker 3: Much better with you guys not having kids. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think so.
Speaker 1: And by the way, our show, to my knowledge, the
Speaker 1: only one I can think of. Well, obviously this they
Speaker 1: did this on Lucy and the Honeymooners, and that is
Speaker 1: repeat actors, like one week they'd be the Postman. So
Speaker 1: our show, we've had people do two. I think Brad
Speaker 1: Morris did the show three times, but it was like, no,
Speaker 1: one's not it's just it's just you. Colombo did it
Speaker 1: a lot, yes, you know, because they were his friends
Speaker 1: that he wrotated the same.
Speaker 3: Thing here it's usually friend. But oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: another one that's an inconsistency is in season one, Sammy
Speaker 3: was a boy and then she girl for the Dogs.
Speaker 3: I remember that, Yeah, Sammy was a boy. Did we
Speaker 3: see Sammy as a boy or just just talking about
Speaker 3: we referenced her, well, wasn't she a baby in the
Speaker 3: first toddler but we referenced her as a he Sammy
Speaker 3: and then she became Samantha.
Speaker 5: That have you guys talked about at all that you'll
Speaker 5: have celebrities on playing you know themselves. I put it
Speaker 5: into air quotes because it's a version. But then also
Speaker 5: really famous celebrities that are playing a character.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Comment, yeah, I remember watching the movie A Chicago movie,
Speaker 1: and it was an indie movie. I knew most of
Speaker 1: the actors in it. John Jewsac was extraordinarily famous in
Speaker 1: A Chicago Guy, and he played a passenger in a
Speaker 1: cab that the lead character was driving. Okay, and it
Speaker 1: was so distracting. You're like John Cusack's there. So the
Speaker 1: thing that I learned is if you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: famous person being something, it has to be a substantial
Speaker 1: part because then they have time to establish their character
Speaker 1: as well as the audience is not thinking about who
Speaker 1: they are. But Vince, you're not sitting there going that's
Speaker 1: Vince Faun. If he came in for one scene and
Speaker 1: he didn't play Vince Vaughn, very distracted.
Speaker 3: N There's also special circumstances because he came on after
Speaker 3: Bob died, so we had.
Speaker 1: Other actors playing characters who are very famous. But that
Speaker 1: is something that I learned. Distracting in this all part
Speaker 1: completely believable and acceptable in a large part because you
Speaker 1: think actors are playing characters and movie, but you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, develop the character during the course.
Speaker 3: Also on our show, you know, because Cheryl is Cheryl
Speaker 3: David and you're Jeff Green and I'm Susie Green, and
Speaker 3: we all have our real first names. But then Ted
Speaker 3: Dancing is Ted Dancing and Richard Lewis is Richard.
Speaker 4: It blurs the.
Speaker 3: Lines well, and then he's Larry Davis Larry David.
Speaker 1: But I gotta say, prior to the show, people didn't
Speaker 1: know Jeff Garland, people didn't know Susie Esmond, people.
Speaker 3: Didn't know she know Larry David.
Speaker 1: Yes, but he needed to be Larry David because that's
Speaker 1: the premise of the show. So I'm saying the other ones,
Speaker 1: Richard Lewis would be weird playing Richard Schwartz and Ted
Speaker 1: Danson playing anything but Ted Danson. And that was for
Speaker 1: I believe it was episode two where Ted makes his
Speaker 1: first appearance the Bowling. I don't remember. No, maybe episode one.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't episode, but it was. It was in
Speaker 3: the two episode.
Speaker 1: But he had to be because Mary Steinbergon played herself,
Speaker 1: which she did in another episode two or three other episodes.
Speaker 1: So there's a moment where it makes total sense, and
Speaker 1: then other moments where and by the way, during the
Speaker 1: latter seasons, I'm not talking about Vince because that was
Speaker 1: a special circumstance. I hated when we casted famous people.
Speaker 3: I hated a character or as himself.
Speaker 1: I hated when we cast famous people as themselves. Fun,
Speaker 1: but as a part, I always felt we should go
Speaker 1: with someone that people didn't know, like, for example, Josh
Speaker 1: gadd is the podiatress. Josh gadd is a very close
Speaker 1: friend of mine. I love him. I played his father
Speaker 1: in a movie. Okay, him playing that small part of
Speaker 1: the podiatress. And I know Josh chiropractor. I know that
Speaker 1: Larry knew Josh too, loved him, wanted to give him
Speaker 1: a show, and I knew Josh wanted to be on
Speaker 1: the show. But I found that a terrible distraction. And
Speaker 1: I really hated and always hated if it wasn't a
Speaker 1: part of substance, when we'd hire famous people and the
Speaker 1: other parts.
Speaker 3: I would bet you you didn't feel that way about
Speaker 3: Tracy Yellman.
Speaker 1: Well, no, but she's playing a character.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. She was a famous person playing.
Speaker 1: But who else? Just named somebody who could have played
Speaker 1: that role.
Speaker 3: No, she was kind of But I'm saying she was
Speaker 3: a famous person playing a character.
Speaker 1: Yes, but a character you couldn't even see Tracy Yellman.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Josh Gadd didn't have prosthetics on me.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing too about our show that I
Speaker 5: think is different because at some point, even at from
Speaker 5: the beginning, the show business crowd, you know, they were
Speaker 5: they were attracted to the show, and they got all
Speaker 5: the jokes, and so I'm sure you guys felt it
Speaker 5: too that as time went on, very famous people would
Speaker 5: come up to me and say, I just want to
Speaker 5: be on the show. I'll be a waiter, I'll be
Speaker 5: a waitress. I'll just walk by in the background all
Speaker 5: the time. But the most famous asking me to be
Speaker 5: on the show, and I'd be like, I don't.
Speaker 3: Have that control the producers season which is coming up
Speaker 3: next right, which I was at the.
Speaker 1: Movies and I remember bumping into Ben Stiller and I go,
Speaker 1: I got something for you. I know you want to
Speaker 1: do it. I got something because I had said to
Speaker 1: Larry what about Ben Stiller after that? And he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: And then of course we hired Ben. But that kind
Speaker 1: of role needs a famous person.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, because they were starring in a Broadway shot.
Speaker 1: I am all for unknown actors getting a break. I'm
Speaker 1: all for break character actors. So I've always been including
Speaker 1: this last season anti famous person when not necessary. You
Speaker 1: know what, it doesn't bother me, It bothers me when
Speaker 1: we do it. It bothers me afterwards. It's distracting and
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And I love the word. That's
Speaker 1: why the strike is going on now. I don't know
Speaker 1: when this airs, but I fight for actors I find.
Speaker 1: I'm a member of Writers Guild and SAG. But it's
Speaker 1: about who's getting hurt in all this, the character.
Speaker 3: Actor, the working actors, the working well actors.
Speaker 1: And that's why I always wanted a cast. Who are
Speaker 1: plenty of great ones who could have done it. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, Hey, I'm just I love saying. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: And that's our episode. Cheryl Hines come back again. I
Speaker 3: would love to, I will.
Speaker 1: Love Isn't it wonderful, Cheryl that now you'd be in
Speaker 1: my eyes, you'd be too famous to do the show.
Speaker 1: We can't have Cheryl Hines. I know it's kind of metal.
Speaker 1: You're famous from our show.
Speaker 5: Well, that's true because when they first come in to audition,
Speaker 5: they said that they were looking for unknown actresses.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's what we thought back then, that's why
Speaker 1: we upgraded extra us. Larry loved who's just like he
Speaker 1: believed Chris Williams was crazy, like we had all we
Speaker 1: had all real rappers except for Chris Williams, and he
Speaker 1: was obviously great and he always a rapper.
Speaker 3: You no, he's real, you know, he's an actor.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for example, Cheryl, you can no longer do
Speaker 1: a cameo someone riding in a taxi in a movie.
Speaker 1: It'll disrect.
Speaker 3: People'll be like, oh, why is Cheryl Hines in the taxi?
Speaker 1: Right, It's not like, oh, that's missus Schwartz from nine
Speaker 1: scenes that we've been working with.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, all right, Cheryl, thank you, Thanks Cheryl, Well
Speaker 7: you guys, and Jeff and I will be back next
Speaker 7: week starting season four.
Speaker 1: Season four Very excited, which is.
Speaker 3: The producers season.
Speaker 1: A lot of fun, a lot of great stories. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of sharing the Producers season. So by
Speaker 1: both of you, everybody, and thank you for listening.
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