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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you before we get into some

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Speaker 2: a guest you pulled last Thursday and I'm popping packs rockets, GM,

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Speaker 2: Darryl Maury joining you for a good eight hours.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, it was crazy. It was crazy. He

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Speaker 3: I learned.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize that. And he didn't really watch too

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Speaker 4: much of the last dance because it was a bit

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Speaker 4: too painful for him. But yeah, we had so much fun.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun. I think it went

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Speaker 4: have kept going as well. Really we just I don't

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Speaker 4: That's a funny thing. I think I had one to

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Speaker 4: two leftover. So but yeah, Daryl was great. So it

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Speaker 4: if you've got nothing else to do, and everyone's kind

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Speaker 5: Ariel went for like a half hour, Darryl Moury went

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Speaker 5: for forty five ish minutes. You gotta go plus sixty next.

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Speaker 4: Week, yeah, I suppose. Yeah, well, well, yeah, this week

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Speaker 4: will be interesting. I have a guess lined up already,

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Speaker 4: a former All Star too, NBA All Start, so I'm

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Speaker 4: pretty excited for that. My only concern is this gentleman

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Speaker 4: But will it happen, that's the great question. But if

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Speaker 3: I mean, Charl's Berkley.

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Speaker 4: I would have said I've got a dream team if

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, Look, if I don't want to watch

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Speaker 2: all forty nine minutes of you and Daryl Moury, like,

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Speaker 4: I will say as well. So I've got one someone

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Speaker 5: You got to wear a couple of weeks, an absolute monster.

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Speaker 5: It's tein Wolf.

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Speaker 3: We just got to wait full moon.

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Speaker 4: Oh imagine if you get Star Stelensky to come on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll go check that out, guys. So

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Speaker 2: let's get into some NBA news here, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 2: these two headlines together because they go hand in hand,

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Speaker 2: both from the Athletic Shout Out the Athletic. First one,

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Speaker 2: Sham's reporting NBA issued GM survey reveals competition formats that

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Speaker 2: Second one, NBA in serious talks to restart the season

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Speaker 2: in Orlando, Disney World. The front runner guys, tas, why

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Speaker 2: I think we can be optimistic this is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions of like how many teams

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Speaker 3: It sounds like we're getting basketball back, hopefully in mid

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Speaker 3: or late July. Right, That's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 6: This was the past week here the Athletic first report,

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Speaker 4: Where to start.

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Speaker 6: There's a whole heck of a lot here to go through.

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Speaker 6: and even you know, we probably don't pay a lot

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Speaker 6: of attention to soccer, but Major League Soccer also planning

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Speaker 6: In the ESPN wide role to sports here, So that's

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Speaker 6: sort of my concern first and foremost. You will start

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Speaker 6: looking at these formats and potentially bringing thirty teams down there,

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Speaker 6: Let's take a stupid example here, but players want to

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Speaker 6: seventy two games, seventy six games, we can get into

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Speaker 6: all that stuff. But I think first and foremost, reduce

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Speaker 6: I'll stop there, and you guys can jump in. But

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Speaker 6: that's to me, that's the first thing. We have to

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Speaker 6: be as safe as possible and less people involved as possible.

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Speaker 2: Right, So this GM survey by all reports, Yeah, asking

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Speaker 3: Do we just go straight to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Do we just go to sixteen teams and we have

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Speaker 2: a seven game series each round? Or do we try

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Speaker 2: and play some of the regular season?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: How many games? Seventy two, seventy six, the whole thing? Okay,

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Speaker 2: what about this playoff plus format? This is the other thing,

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Speaker 3: For these seeds.

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Speaker 4: I would absolutely just go straight to the playoffs. And again,

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Speaker 4: there's no perfect solution. So if I'm Adam Silver, I

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Speaker 4: I think this is the perfect opportunity for the NBA

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Speaker 4: I think the NBA, if basketball goes ahead, this gives

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Speaker 4: I think that would be the safest thing. But I

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Speaker 3: Tray, what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Tom Ziller, I thought made a really good point in

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Speaker 3: Out of the playoffs at this point.

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Speaker 5: Even if you played out the eighty two games, they're

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Speaker 3: You're bringing in.

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Speaker 5: Another two hundred and fifty people. So to me, I'm

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Speaker 5: with Tassin leave. Bring the sixteen teams that are in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. You had two thirds of a season to

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Speaker 5: the NBA should embrace it. They should do the group

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Speaker 5: it's gonna look like an AAU basketball tournament. So you

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Speaker 5: might as well make it like an AAU basketball tournament.

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Speaker 5: When we look back on this season, you know, twenty

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Speaker 5: So why not completely embrace that. Why not try some

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Speaker 3: You said a group stage, Like is that what you said? Trey?

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Speaker 3: Like that? What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 5: It's in the survey that they could possibly do a

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Speaker 2: So you like that idea, I mean to me, that's

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Speaker 2: like why I guess I don't get that. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: why don't we just do the playoffs? Okay, if you

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Speaker 2: so we can try it and see get some fun

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Speaker 3: But I don't get get the main reason is why

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Speaker 3: I would do it.

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Speaker 5: You want to see a bunch of four to zero

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Speaker 5: You know, if there are four games, or if there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 6: I would vote against the one through sixteen option because

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Speaker 6: I think it just makes the asterisk on this season

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Speaker 6: you're really, to me, you're not really feeling what a

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't throw in this this group stage idea. I

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Speaker 6: think the asterisk isn't that big other than yeah, no

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Speaker 6: but yeah, I don't know. It doesn't really make all

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Speaker 2: I I mean, look selfishly, I do love the concept

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Speaker 2: like it's one and done games to get in, sure,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I would of course we'd be watching

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Speaker 2: again you're like, this is awesome. It was a do

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to do that or very unlikely at least.

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Speaker 2: But I still agree with all you guys, like what

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Speaker 2: Just adding more people is the exact opposite thing you

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I f i'd my top team.

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Speaker 6: I'm probably a little worried about Damian Lillard sneaking in

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Speaker 6: there in a play in tournament. You know, he's outside

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Speaker 6: i'd probably be a little bit worried about, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: you're just bringing too many people in its Apparently now

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Speaker 6: it's thirty five people per team, that's what they're going

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Speaker 6: usually in the playoffs it's about seventy five people per team.

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Speaker 6: So kudos to the NBA for making starting to make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. We will see.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look there, I think the reconvening at some

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 3: To get how weird will that be?

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Speaker 4: It'll be very weird. But I mean you can screamage

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Speaker 4: would probably want to at least do that to say, listen,

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Speaker 4: game to the next, as far as you know from

439
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Speaker 4: the broadcast side of things, and that's going to be

440
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,919
Speaker 4: a huge challenge as well if it's ESPN and T

441
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 4: and T down there, because that's how the playoffs go

442
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 4: usually one follows one conference and one follows the other

443
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 4: ones until the finals. So there's a lot of questions

444
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 4: there to be answered. But you know, look, we all

445
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 4: want to see basketball again, and it is going to

446
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 4: be a compromised product to what we used to But

447
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 4: if everything is organized and arranged correctly, then there's no

448
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 4: reason why it won't be fun and exciting to watch.

449
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Speaker 4: I just, you know, obviously, just hope that it's safe.

450
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Speaker 4: That's the most important factor. Yeah, Corny, the ESPN.

451
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Speaker 6: There's going to be five manned cameras and then some

452
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Speaker 6: automatic cameras. I think you might have camera operators operating

453
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 6: two cameras. You just got to like run from one

454
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 6: camera to the other camera. You just got to be talented.

455
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 6: You just got to be able to go left hand

456
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 6: on one camera, run to the other, make things happen. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 6: I hope the visual.

458
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Speaker 3: Very French could do it. I'll tell you that, no doubt.

459
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Speaker 6: Okay, now, yeah, throw them down there. I was surprised

460
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 6: to see this number for potential regular season games the

461
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 6: survey going out to all the gms in front of them,

462
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Speaker 6: the option of seventy two or seventy six regular season games,

463
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Speaker 6: only those two options. I was pretty surprised, Like, that's

464
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Speaker 6: a lot. There's a lot of teams that you know,

465
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Speaker 6: the sixty three, sixty four, sixty five mark, Like at

466
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Speaker 6: that the seventy two games, the Lakers would have to

467
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 6: play nine games to get to seventy two. That's you know,

468
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Speaker 6: two plus weeks's's it makes no sense to me why

469
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Speaker 6: you have like the Lakers down there for an extra

470
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Speaker 6: two weeks at all. I thought, maybe you know, these

471
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Speaker 6: scrimmage games we're talking about maybe get everybody get like

472
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Speaker 6: you can't get you just can't take all thirty teams

473
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Speaker 6: down there. So I think the regular season just goodbye.

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Speaker 3: It's it was.

475
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Speaker 6: Fun, it was fun, but it's really a lot like

476
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 6: the twenty eleven to twelve shortened season with sixty six games.

477
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Speaker 6: That's where teams are right now basically, and and you

478
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Speaker 6: just play out the postseason.

479
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Speaker 5: For me, how do you guys think they did this

480
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Speaker 5: survey that's a survey Monkey joint or a Google docs form.

481
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Speaker 2: You have to ask Mike Bess, I'm not sure just

482
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Speaker 2: one thing you were saying, like would task like the

483
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Speaker 2: asterisk and all that, Like, you know, a lot of

484
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: people definitely will be like, oh this this doesn't count.

485
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: You know, I agree with that. I think that will

486
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: be an issue, no doubt. Is so so random and weird.

487
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Speaker 2: But it also depends on who wins, you know what

488
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Speaker 2: I mean. Like I think, if one of the best

489
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Speaker 2: teams in the league, so like if it's the Clips,

490
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: the Lakers, the Bucks, if they win and they play

491
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Speaker 2: you know, the seven game series like we normally have

492
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and they go on and Gi honest

493
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Speaker 2: gets the title.

494
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Speaker 3: Like I think people are like, Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

495
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Speaker 2: But if like like some crazy team, especially because they

496
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Speaker 2: no fans and you don't have to go on the

497
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: road and win in a tough environment, I'm like, I can't, like,

498
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Speaker 2: I don't know who, like the Grizzlies for crying out

499
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Speaker 2: loud or something like if a team, if a team

500
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Speaker 2: like that goes on to win, then yeah, then that

501
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 2: will be slapped like crazy with the asterix, like this

502
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: doesn't count, Like that's not fair. They didn't have to

503
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 2: go on the road in the Game seven and win.

504
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: Somebody's barn. Like, I think it will actually ultimately depend

505
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Speaker 2: on who comes out of this.

506
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Speaker 5: If I think this season's getting the biggest asterisk in

507
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Speaker 5: NBA history, regardless of what happened, that's the first time

508
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 5: we've had a stoppage in the middle of a season.

509
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, but like.

510
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Speaker 5: Say honest wins people say, well, yeah, but Lebron and

511
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 5: the Lakers were playing the best when we went into

512
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Speaker 5: the stoppage. Maybe they were going to be peeking in

513
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Speaker 5: the playoffs and had to take three months off.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like you could, yeah, right, you can

515
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: spin it however way you want to. I guess Bucks

516
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Speaker 2: fans would be like, no, it's not. They played the playoffs.

517
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: I mean they were the number one seed and they

518
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: played four rounds of seven game series and they did it.

519
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

520
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if it's your team that wins, you're like, oh,

521
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: this is fair. And if it's not, then you're like, oh,

522
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: this is dumb, this shouldn't count.

523
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Speaker 3: You're probably right.

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Speaker 4: Every finals has an asterix anyway to some degree, doesn't it.

525
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Speaker 4: I mean, just go back to last season with Kevin

526
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: Duran going blowing his achilles his achilles tend to now

527
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 4: and Klay Thompson blowing his knee out, and people will

528
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 4: still say, well, the Raptors, you know, got lucky at

529
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 4: that right time. So you know, every every champion has

530
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 4: some sort of knock on it depending on what your

531
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Speaker 4: angle isn't what your attitude towards that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 6: You say, let's know where the huge asterisk comes into

533
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 6: play here the injuries. Every single season, You're right, if

534
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Speaker 6: somebody has to sit out because they contracted the virus,

535
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 6: or multiple guys from a team they have to sit out,

536
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Speaker 6: it is sort of like you know kd sitting out

537
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 6: and multiple guys Klay Thompson was out as well, But

538
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 6: this time the asterisk gets monstrous because it's not an injury.

539
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 6: It's just it's totally different, but it's it's very similar

540
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 6: and that there could be multiple guys off of a

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Speaker 6: roster for that one reason. And that's that that is

542
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 6: where the huge asterisk comes into play. For me the fan,

543
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 6: that I think you reduced the most, the most, the

544
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Speaker 6: biggest sort of spotlight on this season by just trying

545
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Speaker 6: to make it as much like that sixty six game

546
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Speaker 6: season and going into the playoffs and finishing it off

547
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Speaker 6: because to some degree trays definitely right. This is a

548
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 6: very very unique see situation where there's no fans. That's

549
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 6: never been done before. And and that's the strange thing.

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Speaker 6: Does Lebron James come into the arena maybe potentially with

551
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Speaker 6: a little bit of like a chip in his ear

552
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Speaker 6: to play some music to get to get himself pumped,

553
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Speaker 6: Like I don't know, I'd be I'd be watching hopefully

554
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 6: we have hopefully Larry French's on the camera. We get

555
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 6: a couple zoom into the guy's ears because maybe they

556
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 6: want some crowd noise in their ears, Like that is

557
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 6: going to be the really really weird part and for

558
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Speaker 6: us at home, it is going to be sort of

559
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Speaker 6: like Orlando Summer League, where it's going to be pretty

560
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Speaker 6: silent other than bounce, bounce, bounce bounce.

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Speaker 5: That's the big debate over the weekend on Twitter, the

562
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Speaker 5: Bundesliga piped in crowd noise? Would you prefer there to

563
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Speaker 5: be fake crowd noise on your TV? I would imagine

564
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Speaker 5: if you're a player, you would want to hear something

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Speaker 5: in the arena.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know what the answer is,

568
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: like outside of like just giving it a go and

569
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Speaker 2: watching it with nothing and then comparing it with hearing

570
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Speaker 2: some I'm talking about of course NBA basketball.

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Speaker 3: I don't know the answer. You're right, like one handed,

572
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: You you guys watch those Orlando Summer League games, you

574
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Speaker 2: know they're on sometimes in the NBA TV office when

575
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: we were there, and like it's weird. I mean it's

576
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Speaker 2: like it's just feels yeah, But.

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Speaker 4: You also don't know most of those players though. That's

578
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: the other thing. They're not playing for anything. Under these circumstances,

579
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Speaker 4: it's going to be different. You're going to see the

580
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: stars playing big minutes, playing important games, trying to win,

581
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Speaker 4: and we're going to recognize them all. So I think

582
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Speaker 4: it will be a lot different than you know, watching

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Speaker 4: you know, some guy who's probably playing in the Puerto

584
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Speaker 4: Rican League now who is a star, and you're Orlando's

585
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Speaker 4: first game, so you know, I I honestly, if I

586
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Speaker 4: was the NBA, I wouldn't need to do that because

587
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 4: we all know there are no fans there. So it's

588
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: gonna be different, it's gonna feel different. So so don't

589
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 4: try to sort of cover it up as if you know, like, hey,

590
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Speaker 4: this is what it sounds like because we used to that.

591
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: Let's just again, this is a free hit for the

592
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: end of.

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00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 5: Playoff for them out like we're used to. So why

594
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Speaker 5: wouldn't you want to keep the fans like we're used to.

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00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: Well, no, I don't want to do the playoff format.

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Speaker 4: I want to do the seating. I want to do

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00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 4: the one to sixteen. So again, I try things out,

598
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,239
Speaker 4: try things that are differently. And because I don't, I

599
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 4: think watching it and you're hearing this fake noise like

600
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: a you know, canned laughter track on a sitcom, it's like,

601
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: well it doesn't like I know, then it's not real.

602
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 4: So just let me hear the players. I mean, I'm

603
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 4: someone who wants to hear the players talking trash and sure,

604
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: you know, calling out play calls and how much of

605
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: that will even be able to hear anyway, So I

606
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: would be excited to see because it's something different, something

607
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 4: that we're not used to. And again, when you're watching

608
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: the game, that matters. I don't think ultimately you're going

609
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: to be turned off because there's not the normal sort

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Speaker 4: of crowd sounds that you're used to hearing. I think

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Speaker 4: you're more focused on, like, you know, is this game

612
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Speaker 4: like can this team go on a run without the

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Speaker 4: crowd behind them? Can this team come back? You know?

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Speaker 4: Or is that sort of stuff largely just down to

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Speaker 4: the fact that when you have a crowd behind you

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Speaker 4: in the home teams down, they go on a run

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Speaker 4: and everyone's going crazy. Does that really affect the game?

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00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: I think I think that's something we're going to find

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Speaker 4: out a little bit more of, even though it's only

620
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: a small sample size in this Under these circumstances, do we.

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Speaker 2: Think like broadcast teams will be there in Orlando, like

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00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: they'll be tested and be courtside, or will they be

623
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: calling these games like remotely great question.

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Speaker 4: I would guess they're going to be there myself.

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00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: So would I.

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00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not clear in the ESPN report. Actually the

627
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 6: camera operators, for sure, people will.

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Speaker 4: Be Warren Legarry going to be there running things. They

629
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: may as well get him. I mean, he's used to

630
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: running the Summer League tournament. You know, things would work

631
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 4: smoothly if he's down there.

632
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Speaker 2: I Also the other part of this is like we

633
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: got two months until they maybe even start this right,

634
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Like this is it's still sort of I know time

635
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: is what does time even mean anymore? But uh, there's

636
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: a lot of time before they even will like we

637
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: hopefully even get them chipping off basketball. There's two months

638
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: away probably maybe maybe July fifteenth, a little bit less,

639
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: but sounds like what I'm seeing or hearing, it's like, yeah,

640
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: late July, so July twenty fifth or something like that,

641
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: if they do it on a weekend, if we go

642
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: straight to the playoffs, which I think they're I really

643
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: think this was just like a, hey, is anybody interested

644
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: in playing any of the regular season? No? No, all right, yeah,

645
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: let's just go to the playoffs. You're right, that's best

646
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: for business. Let's just do that, crazy, crazy stuff. But

647
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm getting as we got a lot

648
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: of podcasts still to do before there's actual basketball.

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00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: And that's all right, Daryl Morey is gonna come back

650
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: and bust open another couple of packs of cars. Right, well,

651
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: we got some content.

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, sounds good. We will see and

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Speaker 2: it's like like task that right right off the jump here.

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Speaker 2: This could all change in the next day or so.

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Speaker 3: You never know. Hopefully, hopefully we do a basketball all right,

656
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Speaker 3: we got.

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Speaker 6: A let me, let me, let me cut you off there.

658
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Speaker 6: According to this ESPN report, the only mention is TV

659
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Speaker 6: producers and directors. I think people will be doing it remotely.

660
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Speaker 6: They're calling the games remotely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we just got done talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: reducing as many people as possible, so that's definitely you

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Speaker 5: It's tell Mark Jones to hang a jersey on the wall.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean horse coach.

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Speaker 2: Our next headline here is a sad one.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, most of you guys I'm sure listening know this.

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Speaker 2: NBA dot Com Hall of Fame coach Jerry Sloan passes

718
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Speaker 2: away at seventy eight. This was late last week. We

719
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Speaker 2: got this unfortunate news that Jerry Sloan had passed one

720
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Speaker 2: of the greatest coaches in NBA history, A coach that

721
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Speaker 2: never won Coach of the Year. Is that right, never

722
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Speaker 2: won it? Yeah, that's right, crazy crazy, Yeah, coach the

723
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Speaker 2: Jazz for twenty three seasons, the fourth winningest coach in

724
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Speaker 2: NBA history over twelve hundred wins. Also a pretty damn

725
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: good basketball player too, two time All Star, six time

726
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Speaker 2: All Defensive guard for the Balls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately that he passed away and only seventy eight. Like

729
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Speaker 2: that's honestly, it's not that old, you know what I mean. Like,

730
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Speaker 2: I guess in my head I thought he was older

731
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Speaker 2: because he'd just been around for so so long and

732
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Speaker 2: always looked like an old man to me, but again,

733
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Speaker 2: one of the great coaches in NBA.

734
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Speaker 4: Historyly absolutely sad, sort of sad news over the weekend

735
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Speaker 4: of course there. But the one thing I loved about

736
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Speaker 4: Jerry Sloane he was really an old school tough guy,

737
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Speaker 4: you know, never made any excuses whatsoever, and his teams

738
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Speaker 4: were always competitive and always tough. And you know, Carme

739
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 4: alone and John Stockton of course fantastic players, hall of

740
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Speaker 4: Fame players, but also I think jerry's loan was a

741
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, hall of fame coach for those guys

742
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Speaker 4: because he really did get them to, you know, obviously

743
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 4: close to the pinnacle a couple of times there. And

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00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: I remember one time Jerry Sloan was awarded Coach of

745
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Speaker 4: the Month and they handed him the award at a

746
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Speaker 4: press conference and he was like, what's this? They said,

747
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Speaker 4: Coach of the Month and he's like, what am I

748
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 4: supposed to do with that? So he wasn't the sort

749
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: of guy who was into those sort of little you know,

750
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: things like that, meaningless things to him. He just wanted

751
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Speaker 4: his team to play hard every night at both ends

752
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 4: of the floor. And I think that's the credit to

753
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Speaker 4: him that for every season he was the coach of

754
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Speaker 4: the Jazz. I always felt they were never a pushover team.

755
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 4: You know, they didn't always obviously have a great year,

756
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Speaker 4: but they made the Playoff. I'm pretty sure almost every

757
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: year that he coached them. But you always knew when

758
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Speaker 4: your Jazz were in town, whoever they were playing, that

759
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Speaker 4: team was going to be tough defensively and offensively. So

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Speaker 4: I think that's a credit to Jerry's legacy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Jazz were a tough team and a fiery team,

762
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Speaker 5: and Jerry Sloan no different. The guy was suspended twice

763
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Speaker 5: for pushing referees. You gotta love it, just the nay

764
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Speaker 5: kind of guy. You know. I was talking to Laura

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Speaker 5: about what had happened, and she's like, who exactly is this?

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Speaker 3: I showed her the picture. She's like, oh, yeah, that's

767
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Speaker 3: that's too bad.

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Speaker 5: It's so sad, just because he was such a big

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Speaker 5: part of the NBA for you know, the entirety basically

770
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Speaker 5: of our childhoods. Always remember the John Deer hats, how

771
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Speaker 5: much it was known that he loved and collected tractors,

772
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Speaker 5: which is a very funny thing. And I was also

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Speaker 5: happy to see that he and Darren Williams had buried

774
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Speaker 5: the hatchet before Jerry Sloan passed away, because the ending

775
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: of Sloan's time with the Jazz was quite tumultuous, with

776
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Speaker 5: him and Darren Williams kind of beefing over the direction

777
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Speaker 5: of the team. Jerry just said, I've had enough of this.

778
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Speaker 5: I've been coaching for a quarter of a decade. I

779
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Speaker 5: can take some time. But apparently they sat down a

780
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Speaker 5: few years ago and you know, said there, I'm sorries

781
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Speaker 5: and were able to mend those fences.

782
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Speaker 3: So I thought that was very nice to hear.

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Speaker 6: The toughness is the thing that stands out to me,

784
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Speaker 6: and the thing that made him tough was his upbringing,

785
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Speaker 6: and Steve ash Berner wrote about this on the NBA

786
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Speaker 6: dot com. Sloan was the youngest of ten children growing

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Speaker 6: up in mcclainsboro, Illinois. A typical morning for him while

788
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Speaker 6: attending high school, wake up at four point thirty to

789
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Speaker 6: get his farm chores done, then walk or hitchhike to

790
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Speaker 6: school for morning basketball practice. Before that, in great school,

791
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: Sloan did his learning in a one room schoolhouse with

792
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Speaker 6: a graduating class of two. He was a hard ass.

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Speaker 6: He was tough. He you didn't want to mess with him,

794
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 6: and yeah, he got the most out of his players,

795
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 6: and his players fit him, especially you know, back back

796
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: in the nineties days, and it is too good to

797
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: hear about, you know, the two thousands, his star player

798
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 6: was Darren Williams and him to bury the hatchet with him,

799
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 6: because those two personalities clashed big time, and you could

800
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Speaker 6: see why they would clash because Jerry Sloan was such

801
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 6: a hard assed dude the way he was brought up

802
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 6: and then the way he played for the Chicago Bulls

803
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Speaker 6: as well. I think it's it's easy to forget about

804
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 6: Jerry the player and his number retired by the Bulls.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, hopefully, hopefully he lived as full life as

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 6: it's it seems like from our perspective that he did

807
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 6: because it's yeah, seventy eight years. But as you said, Skits,

808
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 6: seems like he's been around absolutely forever because he has.

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Speaker 3: Totally wille ever. You ever been on a John Dear tractor?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have, yes, yeah, yeah, a friend of mine

811
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Speaker 4: in Australia used to have a farm, so I used

812
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: to get up there on the tractor. But yeah, you

813
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: can't really do too much up there, you know, if

814
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 4: you don't know what you're doing. You're just sort of

815
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: wasting everyone's time.

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Speaker 3: But mean, well, it's not like amateur farmers out there.

817
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, once you're on the tractor, it's like,

818
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: all right, you're on the tractor. Now what now, what

819
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: are you gonna do. It's not like you can do

820
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden go out and start helping them.

821
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Speaker 4: You know, you need to know what you're doing, like

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Speaker 4: like like it's it's it's so I'll give you another example,

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Speaker 4: like they've got the four wheelers out on this farm,

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Speaker 4: and they've got the sheep dogs to round up the sheep,

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Speaker 4: and so the dogs know what they're doing. The dogs

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Speaker 4: are incredibly smart. But I was trying to help one day,

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Speaker 4: so I got on the four wheeler and I was

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Speaker 4: driving off into one direction to try to shepherd the

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Speaker 4: sheep into this particular area right, and that sucks with

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Speaker 4: it all of the shep there's like a thousand sheep there.

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Speaker 4: And it was funny, this dog, this blue this sheep

832
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Speaker 4: dog looked at me as if to say, what is

833
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Speaker 4: this guy doing?

834
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Speaker 3: Where are you.

835
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Speaker 4: Putting the sheep over there for? And then it was

836
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: like the farmer came flying around on his other one,

837
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 4: but no, not in that defense in the other fence here.

838
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 4: So the sheep dog actually outsmarted me. So that was

839
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Speaker 4: my sort of contribution to the farm, trying to help

840
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Speaker 4: out put the sheep through the wrong fence. You know.

841
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: That's like that sets back the farmer for like an

842
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 4: hour for the day. That's crazy. Man whose fun was

843
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 4: this friend of mine? Yeah? So there were big sheep farm.

844
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Speaker 4: They had of sheep, thousands of sheep and thousands of

845
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Speaker 4: thousands of acres and you know those farmers like they

846
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: work five am until seven pm every night, like it's incredible.

847
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually do a real job.

848
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Speaker 4: I know, I know. And they only get paid like

849
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 4: three or four times a year when they basically when

850
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Speaker 4: they sell their wool. You know, they're working every other day.

851
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 4: It's great. I mean, you get paid that decent money,

852
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 4: but not you know, not what not for the hours

853
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: at your work anyway.

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Speaker 2: That the only thing you did on this for them?

855
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Speaker 2: Or did you like, did you shear sheep?

856
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Speaker 4: And no, wait have you seen that someone shear a sheep?

857
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 4: Like that is you're basically wrestling the sheep and and

858
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Speaker 4: then you start going through and the sheep's kicking and

859
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 4: fighting and pulling and oh man, it is crazy in there.

860
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Speaker 4: But those shearers get paid per ship they shear, so

861
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: they have to they have to get through as many

862
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Speaker 4: as they can in a day. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 4: at the end of the.

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Speaker 3: Day, I.

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Speaker 4: Watched them because because I was like, oh can I

866
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Speaker 4: shear one? And they're like, it's not like the sheep

867
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 4: just stands there and like you're getting the haircut. The

868
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 4: sheep doesn't want you to shear its ship. It's wool

869
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 4: the sheep. The sheep is like, what the hell are

870
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: you doing? Get away from me? No, not near me.

871
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: Knack has come on and you're you know, there's often blood,

872
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: you know, because you're nicking, you know, because they're on

873
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: their head around and stuff like. It's it's not you know.

874
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if they if they were to come sort

875
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 4: of in there, you know, prim and proper and sort

876
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: of daintily step up and you know, poke their head

877
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 4: up and say okay, go crazy. Great, But they they

878
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: hate being sheared. They hate it.

879
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 5: Did you spend like a second day on the farm

880
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 5: or were They're like, this guy won't shear a sheep?

881
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 5: And he put them into the wrong fence. We're never

882
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: at him back.

883
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 4: No, I went up there a few times, but we

884
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: were just hanging out, me and my friend. So it

885
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: was kind of like, oh, you want to help out

886
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: on the farm. I'm like, yeah, sure, you know, but

887
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: but the dad was kind of like, yeah, why don't

888
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 4: you boys just you know, watch TV or something. Sit inside.

889
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: But we went out rabbit shooting at night. That was

890
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: pretty fun. Cooled rabbits. They're dumb as anything, you know,

891
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 4: like you shine the light, you shine the light on them,

892
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 4: they stop, they look up and you're like beautiful and

893
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: then bang, oh well they're vermin though. Yeah, they're vermin though.

894
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: But it's not like you just shoot them and leave them.

895
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 4: You feed them to the dogs. So it's yeah, well

896
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta skin them, you gotta schein them

897
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: first and then uh and then the dogs eat them.

898
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: So it's not you know, it's it's it's a part

899
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: of the cycle really, to take.

900
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 6: A bullet out of them before they before the dog

901
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 6: chomps on them.

902
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 4: No, wait, you just you just it's funny how the

903
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: scheme just kind of really peels off once you once

904
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: you get it just peels off and then you just

905
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: throw it to them and and the dogs go crazy.

906
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 5: All right.

907
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: Final The Salt Lake Tribune More jazz news here. Utah

908
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Jazz is boy on Bogdanovic undergoing season ending wrist surgery. Guys, Bogdanovitch,

909
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: I guess he was playing through this injury. And you know,

910
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: if the season had never ended because of the pandemic,

911
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: I assume he would have continued to play and then

912
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: and then treated this in the off season. But they're

913
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: electing to do it now. And this is like a

914
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: legit of you know, I think he's out four to

915
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: six months or something like that.

916
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: I believe it's the report. So he's gonna be out

917
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: for a while. None of it.

918
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: So if the Jazz pick up in the playoffs here,

919
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: matter who they're playing, they will not have a twenty

920
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: point per game score. This guy's a damn good player.

921
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: If you don't know, I think they're done.

922
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 6: If there weren't you know, a lot of hopes that

923
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 6: they would be a sneaky good team. Maybe the hiatus

924
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 6: came out a good time for them because they weren't

925
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 6: playing well and maybe they could find a way to

926
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: sneak up on teams. But to be missing him is

927
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: a huge, huge, huge loss. I give them zero percent

928
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 6: chance now to beat the good teams. It's a good opportunity,

929
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 6: I guess for Mike Conley to step up into more

930
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 6: of a scoring role. But Boyt McDonald's always been sort

931
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: of an underappreciated dude. And for a twenty point per

932
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 6: game guy to be shooting forty from three, he's their

933
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 6: money man, even though you know Donn Mitchell's their leading score.

934
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 6: Boyant takes a lot of really really important big shots.

935
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 6: So huge loss, yeah, And I.

936
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: Guess replacement wise, you would hope it's a little bit

937
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 5: more Colmly doing things off the dribble and a little

938
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 5: bit more Joe Ingles doing the same. But the great

939
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 5: thing about Bogdanovitch is that you get, you know, the

940
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 5: off the dribble creativity and the stretch ability as a

941
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 5: shooter in one single package. I said for a long

942
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 5: time that the quarantine was a great time to be

943
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 5: a Bulls fan. It has been basically the complete opposite

944
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 5: for jazz fans. The hits just keep on coming and coming.

945
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 5: I'm seeing them in my in my mentions, and usually

946
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: I'm happy to twist the knife for a jazz fan

947
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: but not right now.

948
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has not been You're right, a good couple

949
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: of months for Jazz fans.

950
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: Lee.

951
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you're echoing whatever the past I

952
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 2: just said, they're you know, dot Bogdanovic.

953
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wonder if you know, for the

954
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 4: Jazz this is some sort of a blessing in disguise

955
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: effect that they've had some time off though to really

956
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 4: heal those wounds that they had internally with the team

957
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: as well there with Donovan and Rudy Gobert and I mean,

958
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: obviously they're gonna lose Bogdanovitch, but they have a chance

959
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: to sort of talk things over and men things, and

960
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: maybe they go out there and play well. Who knows.

961
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean, because the Jazz had a weird season. You know,

962
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: they had to i think fifteen game winning streak, but

963
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: then they also weren't that good against teams over five hundred,

964
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not sure, but there's certainly Joe

965
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: Ingles you would think would be the one who would

966
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: probably fill most of that void, although it does also

967
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: give Mike Conley a chance to perhaps you know, establish

968
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 4: himself as a bit more of what the Jazz were

969
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 4: hoping for when they traded for him last season.

970
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't.

971
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: I can't barely remember anything that happened in the NBA

972
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: regular season. But bug Danovic's game winners, the two game

973
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: winners this year.

974
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think they happened this last year.

975
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: But that one especially where he got you know, fouled

976
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: twice basically against the Rockets and splash that home. He

977
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: had two of the bigger shots of the year. Because

978
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: he had another game winner against the Bucks I believe

979
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: earlier in the year too. So yeah, tough loss. Tough

980
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: loss for the Jazz fans, and hopefully we do see basketball,

981
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: but they won't have him. He'll be out for a

982
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: good chunk of time. Like I said, all right, well

983
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: think oh we got Lee's fire talking there, because that

984
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: was incredible. Farmerly, you have you do have farm strength.

985
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: I've said that before, Lee, So now this all makes sense.

986
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: You just have that weird strong hands.

987
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think too many farmers won't

988
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: be on the farm though. Really I might have farm strength,

989
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 4: but I don't have farm nous, if you know what

990
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean.

991
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, Clipper bros.

992
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: Have a great time. Turn on love you guys awesome.

993
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 6: Thanks for joining us. I remember keep that farmer nouse

994
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 6: in the house and away from the shears and the

995
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 6: sheeps and the sheep dogs and you and Jacob

996
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: W.