Speaker 1: I am all in all It's you.
Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast one
Speaker 1: eleven Productions, iHeartRadio, Heart Media, iHeart Podcasts, Season seven, Episode eleven,
Speaker 1: Santa Secret Stuff. I am joined by three quarters of
Speaker 1: my Intrepid Cruisers and French Daniel Romo and the One,
Speaker 1: the Only, and the Undeniable, Inevitable Amy, the Badass sugar Man.
Speaker 1: There's is. What did you think of the episode?
Speaker 3: I actually loved it. I really really liked it after
Speaker 3: last week.
Speaker 2: It was such a nice comeback and really, yeah, I
Speaker 2: really loved it.
Speaker 1: Okay, what about you me? I like some of it
Speaker 1: and I not so much the other part of it.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought it achieved a kind of at
Speaker 1: points it almost got to sitcom sort of staging and
Speaker 1: level and feel not quite there. And I think Susanna
Speaker 1: Kate agrees with me because it jumped up and I
Speaker 1: think you can't want to say something.
Speaker 4: There in.
Speaker 1: But you know, overall, I thought it was pretty good,
Speaker 1: but it did have a little bit of a different
Speaker 1: feel to it.
Speaker 3: I have to think that through as we go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this wasn't it this wasn't it. I mean, I
Speaker 5: thought I was on such a high from the last
Speaker 5: episode because it was so good. This is better than
Speaker 5: the first half of season seven. But it's not great,
Speaker 5: not great.
Speaker 1: You know. The whole time I just kept thinking, gosh,
Speaker 1: you know, you can really feel the absence of Amy
Speaker 1: and Dan.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, especially when they were walking through
Speaker 2: the mall. I thought, oh, this band t is kind
Speaker 2: of dumb. But in general I liked it, and for me,
Speaker 2: I just didn't care for the week before.
Speaker 1: But even though yes, I did enjoy it, even though
Speaker 1: it's Gilmore Girls, it's a reasonable fact simile of and
Speaker 1: anything even close to that is going to be enjoyable. Suzanne,
Speaker 1: I know you want to chime in.
Speaker 6: I love this episode ninety percent of it. There's one
Speaker 6: scene that is just beyond stupid and we'll get there.
Speaker 3: But I love I think.
Speaker 6: I thought it was a great episode. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: And it's the first, like we're all the way in
Speaker 6: season seven and this is like the first true Christmas
Speaker 6: episode that we've had and it's.
Speaker 3: Not even Christmas.
Speaker 5: I was just that it's not even christ.
Speaker 6: The post Christmas Christmas episode, But yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 1: You know what it lacked. It lacked an edge, It
Speaker 1: lacked a bite to it. And Amy and Dan always
Speaker 1: give it that bite. There's always like an iconoclastic, sort
Speaker 1: of artistic bite, a sarcasm, an intelligence. It's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's artie. I don't know how quite to say with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: Something edgy about it, and this didn't have.
Speaker 5: That agree And we totally glazed over Rory going to
Speaker 5: visit Logan for Christmas. He's been talking about.
Speaker 3: It, like Christopher and Leela are all fine.
Speaker 1: Again, right suddenly?
Speaker 3: Right, that was weird too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Gg's back from Paris, Like, I feel like
Speaker 5: a lot of stuff wasn't set up.
Speaker 3: But I mean to Paris for the summer and it's December.
Speaker 1: I actually thought I was watching the wrong episode. I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: I skipped ahead. All right, so let's do some synopsisizations
Speaker 1: Brought to you by Danielle Romo Studios for Moosa Beach, California.
Speaker 5: All right, this is season seven, episode eleven, Santa's Secret Stuff.
Speaker 5: Air date January twenty third, two thousand and seven. Lorlai, Rory, Christopher,
Speaker 5: and GG celebrate Christmas after actual Christmas. When Rory returns
Speaker 5: home from London, Luke asked Loralai to write a character
Speaker 5: reference for his custody battle while April can tinues. While
Speaker 5: April sneaks over to visit him, Zach and missus Kim
Speaker 5: prepare for the baby, but Lane is annoyed by all
Speaker 5: the attention.
Speaker 1: From her mom Suzan. Who's who's leading us today?
Speaker 4: Zan?
Speaker 3: You take it this week?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll drive the bus. So we start out at
Speaker 6: laurel Ize house. She's looking outside the window. She sees
Speaker 6: Rory drive up, and we find out that Rory has
Speaker 6: been in London. Now, the last episode, Logan had moved
Speaker 6: back to New York. So how they wound up back
Speaker 6: in London, I was a little unclear unless they both
Speaker 6: were just.
Speaker 3: Visy because that was the plan.
Speaker 2: She was always going to go for the just for December, remember,
Speaker 2: like early.
Speaker 6: But he moved back to New York. He was going
Speaker 6: to London to visit him.
Speaker 3: It's fair that was a little confusing, A great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the timeline of everything is so jumbled in this episode.
Speaker 5: That is a very good point. Everything is just weird.
Speaker 6: But I mean London at Christmas sounds like fun, So
Speaker 6: maybe they just went.
Speaker 3: For a vacation, yeah, or he still has his place there, whatever,
Speaker 3: who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're prepping us for a storyline, and that diverges
Speaker 1: from what we a new narrative that she's seeing somebody
Speaker 1: in London.
Speaker 6: Oh, so we find out that it's actually after Christmas
Speaker 6: and Rory had a little bit of Christmas in London.
Speaker 6: Laura I did not have any Christmas at all. She
Speaker 6: managed to prevent it from snowing, and now they're going
Speaker 6: to celebrate Christmas together.
Speaker 3: It's a cute sort of bit. It's cute.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of Christmas, a lot of trees, a
Speaker 1: lot of lights, a lot of nice cheer inside that house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, once they got the house decorated as really good.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's fine, cool, funny, good bit, a little
Speaker 2: bit of weird jokes.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a little bit irritating when you know, did.
Speaker 2: You drive on the side of the road or whatever,
Speaker 2: and Christopher and Laura I were doing that bit that
Speaker 2: wasn't at all you know, it's a.
Speaker 1: Term I used. It got a little hallmarky, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, which is where you could
Speaker 1: really see that it had lost its edge overall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got a little annoying, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's all good, all good though, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Then because it's after Christmas, they were able to get
Speaker 6: Christmas trees for a dollar apiece, so they bought seven
Speaker 6: of them, took all the Christmas trees into the house.
Speaker 6: This made me laugh because I like Christmas trees and
Speaker 6: we had three of them last year, so I thought
Speaker 6: that was cute. And they're reminiscing about the decorations and
Speaker 6: the burned stockings, news stockings, new stocking. Yeah, Christopher was
Speaker 6: this where he sang? Because that really annoyed, Yes at all. Yes,
Speaker 6: Oh that was brutal, clearly looped. I just didn't I
Speaker 6: that could have been left out.
Speaker 1: Well, I said, you know, they're trying to show that
Speaker 1: this just doesn't work. It's not a perfect fit, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the new stockings and the terrible singing and those
Speaker 1: two together in their banter was almost like opposing him.
Speaker 1: It's like they they retreat into their band to a
Speaker 1: world which is wonderful to watch, right, but it's like
Speaker 1: he's on the outside going, you know, it's not a
Speaker 1: look kind of a response. Yeah, it's a Christopher feeling alienated.
Speaker 1: Kind of response, well, and.
Speaker 5: It's Christopher trying to fit in so hard and she's
Speaker 5: not working.
Speaker 1: It's so true.
Speaker 6: I almost felt, Now I do not like Christopher, but
Speaker 6: I almost felt a little, tiny, tiny bit sorry for
Speaker 6: him on the stalking thing, because it seems like the
Speaker 6: stockings would have been like an easy way for them
Speaker 6: to kind of give him a win, Like they could
Speaker 6: have just dealt with getting rid of the burned up
Speaker 6: stockings and use Christopher's new stockings and just make him happy.
Speaker 1: But I think it's all part and parcel to him
Speaker 1: not being sensitive to their traditions that they've established that
Speaker 1: they cherish over the last you know, twenty right.
Speaker 5: But on the flip side of that, Scott like he's
Speaker 5: thinking of all four of them. He got a stalking
Speaker 5: for all four of them. Yeah, Rory and Lorlai are
Speaker 5: only thinking about their two stockings, right right right.
Speaker 1: You could also argue that he's only thinking about his
Speaker 1: own comfort, you know, instead of respecting their traditions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean, I don't know on him.
Speaker 2: I think he's getting him for the whole family and
Speaker 2: they all match and YadA YadA.
Speaker 1: But I just think he's he's asserting himself attempting to
Speaker 1: assert himself as sort of the boss now, and this
Speaker 1: is how I want thing. I want new stockings, and
Speaker 1: I'm just he's, like Danielle said, I think he's trying
Speaker 1: too hard. Yeah, maybe it's probably not bad intention obviously
Speaker 1: not bad intentions, but I.
Speaker 5: Got to get to him. He's at least trying to
Speaker 5: be a family. Like he's like, let's all get stockings together.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but Li and Rory.
Speaker 5: Want nothing to do with Gigi and Chris when it
Speaker 5: comes to their traditions, which is kind of not cool.
Speaker 6: That's kind of how I feel too, given him that one,
Speaker 6: you know, like this to me felt different than when
Speaker 6: he was trying to clean out Rory's room or when
Speaker 6: he's going like, you know, get rid of all Laurelized furniture.
Speaker 6: Like they could have just let him have this one
Speaker 6: and kept their other traditions.
Speaker 1: I just think there's no match for the duo that is,
Speaker 1: you know, the Abbott Uncostello of television. Yeah, Laurel I
Speaker 1: and Rory. Yeah, it's like we are the world, so
Speaker 1: this is our world and you just existing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So after Christopher serenades us, we go to the Dragonfly
Speaker 6: and we see Luke at the Dragonfly, which we have
Speaker 6: not seen for a while, So that was that was
Speaker 6: an interesting change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sort of like him and Michelle's.
Speaker 5: We all were Michelle in that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was sort of jarring but good and
Speaker 2: Michelle sort of leaning into it.
Speaker 3: I actually very much liked this scene.
Speaker 6: Yeah, in Michelle's line about let's just stand here and
Speaker 6: let the awkwardness wash over us, that was a good line.
Speaker 6: So he tells Laura that he's moving forward with the
Speaker 6: lawsuit for custody of April and he needs a character reference.
Speaker 6: Liz sent one in that was to you know, filled
Speaker 6: with childhood anecdotes that probably shouldn't see the light of day.
Speaker 6: So he was hoping that Laura I would write one
Speaker 6: for him. She says, yes, she'll do it. It was just
Speaker 6: when they shook hands, it made me my god. It
Speaker 6: was a nice moment like they were they were okay
Speaker 6: being in the same room, and it wasn't interpretational.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, good stuff, good stuff and a good a
Speaker 1: good narrative and clever way to get them back together
Speaker 1: and her thinking about the past and yeah, triggering her
Speaker 1: that that was a very clever device, I thought.
Speaker 6: But then once she agrees to do it, she can't
Speaker 6: actually do it. So we see her juggling strawberries, She's
Speaker 6: throwing pens.
Speaker 1: That was good stuff.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 6: And you know, because she knows what it means to lose,
Speaker 6: Like if she messes this up, it could affect his case,
Speaker 6: you know, getting there.
Speaker 5: I also think she's nervous to regurgitate her feelings towards
Speaker 5: him because she knows she actually loves him for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, complicated, And to borrow a phrase from Amy, I
Speaker 4: thought Lauren's face acting in this episode was extremely high level,
Speaker 4: you know, depicting all those feelings that she that were
Speaker 4: bubbling up for her.
Speaker 1: So yeah, excellent episode for her.
Speaker 6: So then we see Lane. I think was this the
Speaker 6: scene where she was waddling down the sidewalk not so
Speaker 6: that when they passed those extras and the woman took
Speaker 6: turned around and looked at her, that was the extra
Speaker 6: that we were trying to find, the one that was
Speaker 6: in Like also, that was her on the streets.
Speaker 5: On the Warner Brothers lot. They have not given her
Speaker 5: a better fake belly, you guys. I know it was
Speaker 5: a little anyway, it was so jarring to me, Like,
Speaker 5: is literally like the worst fake belly I've ever seen
Speaker 5: on TV in my entire life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a little, even for twins, it was
Speaker 6: a little overdone. And then she's walking with her feet
Speaker 6: like three feet apart, like to be waddling. I thought
Speaker 6: was just a tiny bit overdone. So we go into
Speaker 6: the diner. She's, you know, mad at the customers.
Speaker 3: Well over the top, but I got it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's usually not quite that. She was a little abrasive,
Speaker 6: but I get it. She's at the end of her pregnancy.
Speaker 6: She is probably completely miserable. She's still on her feet
Speaker 6: all day, like she's just got to really be in pain.
Speaker 6: April comes in, Lucas surprised to see her because he
Speaker 6: knows that Anna is not letting her come over. And
Speaker 6: then we find out that she lied to her mom,
Speaker 6: and so Luke immediately was like his head and it
Speaker 6: was in his hands, like he knows if Anna finds
Speaker 6: out about this.
Speaker 2: It's trying to do the right thing, which I like,
Speaker 2: but he also wants to see her and he doesn't
Speaker 2: want to disappoint his kid.
Speaker 3: I mean, I like the whole.
Speaker 1: Thing difficult situation for Luke to be And yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think it was cute.
Speaker 6: Though, like they hadn't seen each other for a while.
Speaker 6: I thought it was a cute scene. She got off
Speaker 6: a Christmas present, so that was good.
Speaker 1: And it really it really illustrates how incredibly unfair this
Speaker 1: whole situation is to him, so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and to both of them, to her too.
Speaker 6: I mean they you know, they missed each other, and
Speaker 6: that affects April as well.
Speaker 1: So that's heartbreaking when when you have somebody that's being
Speaker 1: so combative and so yeah, distant that it's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 6: And at this point, like Anna's just being petty about
Speaker 6: the whole thing, like there's no reason to ask part
Speaker 6: other than her just you know, being a snot about it.
Speaker 6: So then we have like a christmas y Christmas scene.
Speaker 6: We go to Laurel's kitchen and they're making the popcorn
Speaker 6: garlands and this is where, yeah, a needle, Like let's
Speaker 6: get a three year old a needle. That's so bad.
Speaker 3: I was like what, And there's no way that kid
Speaker 3: can do that? So crazy. I was like, that's crazy.
Speaker 6: And Laurela is talking about the trouble she's having writing
Speaker 6: the character reference. Rory's trying to offer advice, trying to.
Speaker 1: Get her to write it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you do my homework for me, right, and then
Speaker 6: we hear Christopher come in Laura Laurela completely changes the
Speaker 6: subject and Rory's kind of like, what's going on there?
Speaker 6: Let's see. Oh, this is also the scene where we
Speaker 6: had the little monologue about monkey monkey underpants. That's a
Speaker 6: big fan favorite.
Speaker 1: So right, that's that was good. That was a good
Speaker 1: run of writing. That was terrific. I thought that was
Speaker 1: that was funny and acknowledging you know, she has bats
Speaker 1: in the belfry a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a big bag of weird in there.
Speaker 1: That's a big.
Speaker 3: All good stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I was most I was very comfortable
Speaker 1: with her saying those things, and it made her character
Speaker 1: so much more. Well, she's appealing enough, but even more
Speaker 1: so because she's aware of this and she knows it,
Speaker 1: she's acknowledging it. It's kind of fun. That was a
Speaker 1: fun scene.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I enjoyed that. Then we go to Lane and
Speaker 6: Zach's apartment where missus Kim and Zach are reviewing the groceries.
Speaker 3: Like cut it was.
Speaker 6: It was cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but isn't it weird to see a scene that
Speaker 1: missus Kim isn't driving? And I thought it was less
Speaker 1: of a scene because missus Kim wasn't more involved or
Speaker 1: driving the scene. But it's you know, there's different rules.
Speaker 3: I liked it.
Speaker 2: I actually thought I actually was less irritated by all
Speaker 2: the baby stuff in this episode than previously. I thought, Okay,
Speaker 2: now Zach's got it together, right, which I kind of liked.
Speaker 6: He's not quite as much of a ding bat as
Speaker 6: he was where he didn't understand.
Speaker 1: So this is them coming out. This is not them
Speaker 1: coming out of Josie's yet, right, Yeah, correct, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: because that I had an issue with that anyway.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is where she he's massaging her feet and
Speaker 6: she's got the candy bar stuffed in the pillow, and
Speaker 6: then she gets really upset when she finds out that
Speaker 6: her drums have been put in the closet and she
Speaker 6: insists she had we have to have band practice because
Speaker 6: she can play. And I see where she's going with this,
Speaker 6: like she's already starting to miss her old life, so
Speaker 6: we can That's kind of leading into that scene where
Speaker 6: they're coming out of the market.
Speaker 1: But she's going into motherhood kicking and screaming. Didn't she
Speaker 1: some of us do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she had sex one time. She was trying to
Speaker 5: be an adult.
Speaker 6: Don't blame her.
Speaker 1: Then we go to and it's really fun to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff was amusing this episode.
Speaker 6: We go to Weston's because part of the whole Christmas
Speaker 6: thing is drinking the candy cane coffee, but now because
Speaker 6: it's after Christmas, they don't serve the coffee anymore. The
Speaker 6: waitress seems very confused as to what Laurlai is asking for.
Speaker 6: And then that's when Rory is like, Okay, why are
Speaker 6: you lying about the character reference? So what do we
Speaker 6: think about that? The fact that Lurlai doesn't tell Christopher
Speaker 6: about the character reference?
Speaker 1: I felt two ways that what other choice does she
Speaker 1: have given Christopher's sensitivity? Uh? And it also to me
Speaker 1: kind of displayed a lack of sophistication on Rory's part,
Speaker 1: not understanding the nuances of life at that point. So
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm just like same old dang Larelai like does this
Speaker 5: every time?
Speaker 3: Sort of redundant bit. I actually don't know that. I
Speaker 3: mind that she's writing the letter and not I don't
Speaker 3: even need. I don't know that I needed to call out,
Speaker 3: like you're not telling dad.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, does she tell him every single thing
Speaker 2: happening at the inn all day long? No, It's like
Speaker 2: I am sort of okay with it. He's asking her
Speaker 2: a favor, he's important from her past. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm sort of more annoyed we're bringing it up Cares.
Speaker 1: It's not like Christopher. It's not like ancient Rome, where
Speaker 1: you know, she's got to go to her king and
Speaker 1: get permission to write. Like it's like laurelized world, not
Speaker 1: Christopher's world. It's Laurelized world in her house.
Speaker 5: I think the only thing that was like annoying is
Speaker 5: when Christopher was coming home and they're at the dining
Speaker 5: room table and Gloraalai changed the topic and because she
Speaker 5: was talking about the letter, and then she was like, oh,
Speaker 5: the popcorn and the cranberries or whatever, right, you know,
Speaker 5: And then it's like, okay, now you're just hiding it.
Speaker 3: Just be yeah, but I said, I think.
Speaker 1: Laurel I knows the Christopher is a bit immature and
Speaker 1: not ready to handle that.
Speaker 7: Him exactly exactly, like because it's a crazy world out
Speaker 7: there and then you know, things have been very turbulent
Speaker 7: and she lost her you know, her a fiance and
Speaker 7: now she's married.
Speaker 5: To You can't tell your significant other, Gerald Rshall stuff,
Speaker 5: there's a problem.
Speaker 6: Well, I but I bought her explanation to Rory, which was,
Speaker 6: you know, she's already been arguing with Christopher. Christopher's already
Speaker 6: sensitive about Luke, right, and she doesn't even know about
Speaker 6: the fight in the town square yet. So I understand
Speaker 6: her point that she didn't want to just pile on
Speaker 6: to that, like she knew Christopher was going to react
Speaker 6: to that. So I get why she didn't tell him.
Speaker 1: Because they're kind of weirdly and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: getting along at the top of the episode, after going
Speaker 1: through so much garbage at the wedding prep and Christopher
Speaker 1: feeling like he has no say right, why make.
Speaker 3: This a thing?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeah? And so I agree with you, Scott.
Speaker 1: I think Laurel is just exhausted by it all, you know,
Speaker 1: dealing with this guy.
Speaker 6: So yeah, and I agree with you Scott that you know,
Speaker 6: Rory is intelligent enough she should have been able to
Speaker 6: kind of suss that out. I mean, I know she's
Speaker 6: been out of town because she's been in London, so
Speaker 6: she doesn't know about some of the stuff that's happened.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, she understands that there is
Speaker 6: going to be some tension there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Right, So I don't know, but Rory's kind of liked
Speaker 6: that anyways. Okay, So then we go to Luke's apartment
Speaker 6: and we see the mask that April made. Cute, qute, cute,
Speaker 6: that was cute. Luke's trying to reassure her about New Mexico.
Speaker 6: She's not buying it, yeah, And then she opens the
Speaker 6: gift that he got.
Speaker 2: They're still talking about swimming. That swimming just didn't disappear,
Speaker 2: just because after we had the bad date with the coach,
Speaker 2: Like that's still a thing.
Speaker 3: I like that, right, right.
Speaker 6: And so finds out that the Christmas gift he got
Speaker 6: her is a duplicate because she got one from her grandma.
Speaker 6: But she was cute. She's trying to be nice about it.
Speaker 6: She's like, well, all I can have two. And then
Speaker 6: so then we go to Lorelized house where she's laying
Speaker 6: on the bed and writing the letter and Chris is
Speaker 6: like being annoying about trying to figure out what she's
Speaker 6: doing and so she pretends she's like wrapping his Christmas gifts.
Speaker 3: That was sort of all the Yeah, he bugged me.
Speaker 3: I was glad.
Speaker 6: It was a short scene doing what he does best
Speaker 6: right exactly.
Speaker 1: And they portrayed him, you know, they have portrayed him
Speaker 1: as being somewhat likable in previous episodes.
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, he just was overdoing it.
Speaker 1: I thought he reverted to the mean as they say, yes.
Speaker 6: So then we go, okay, this is the scene that
Speaker 6: I just thought was really dumb. Is the whole scene
Speaker 6: at Lane and Zach's apartment, so Brian is staring at
Speaker 6: was creepy and weird, like you've never ever seen a
Speaker 6: pregnant woman before, Like the Gil brought his kid.
Speaker 3: Though I didn't see it. I didn't mind the mandolin,
Speaker 3: and I didn't mind Gill and his kid. I thought Brian.
Speaker 1: I didn't guess Suzanne, I have never been more creeped out,
Speaker 1: but anything, it was weird. Yeah, it was just like Brian.
Speaker 6: It was like you'd never seen a pregnant woman before,
Speaker 6: and it was it was weird. And then the whole
Speaker 6: thing with the mandolin and Zach's like, oh look how
Speaker 6: I'm holding it. And then Brian's like, wait, you mean
Speaker 6: there's more than one way to hold a baby?
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 3: I kind of liked it.
Speaker 5: I thought it was funny. It was like a football
Speaker 5: gold it this way, like it's kind of funny.
Speaker 6: I think it's so annoying my kid too.
Speaker 3: I was totally into that.
Speaker 6: And then Gil shows up and he's like, all about
Speaker 6: the breast pump.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that was funny. I didn't mind that either.
Speaker 6: I thought it was the lamest thing ever. And Gil
Speaker 6: like knows all the pros and cons of the different
Speaker 6: breast pumps and like, no, that was not realistic in
Speaker 6: any sense of the word.
Speaker 3: I did like the kid.
Speaker 6: The kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that kid went on to like be famous.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid?
Speaker 2: That kid Jeremy something, and he's done a bunch of movies.
Speaker 2: I recognize that kid immediately.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, he was Jimmy Bennett.
Speaker 6: He was Evan Almighty with Lauren. He played her kid
Speaker 6: in that oh way. So yeah, that was the only
Speaker 6: good thing about that scene was that kid. You see
Speaker 6: in the background, he's like practicing with the microphone, like
Speaker 6: being a rock star and stuff.
Speaker 1: It was that was really cute. But when you got
Speaker 1: Gil coming into a scene you want him to do
Speaker 1: more than what he did or something. Yeah, from what
Speaker 1: he did. I mean it's like you didn't use him
Speaker 1: in the right way.
Speaker 6: It just none of it just felt real to me,
Speaker 6: Like the way that that Gil was acting and the
Speaker 6: way Zach was acting in the way. I don't know,
Speaker 6: none of it felt real to me. I just thought
Speaker 6: the whole thing was dumb, like Brian really doesn't know
Speaker 6: there's more than one way to hold a baby.
Speaker 1: Whatever. Okay, okay, so they certainly weren't speaking French in
Speaker 1: that scene, were they? No, they were not.
Speaker 6: So then we go to the mall.
Speaker 3: I don't know what mall that was no too. I
Speaker 3: was trying so hard to figure it out. And you
Speaker 3: could see like old Navy like.
Speaker 1: The Hartford Galleria, but I.
Speaker 6: Mean in real life, like where did they shoot it.
Speaker 1: It's probably the Beverly Center of the Sherman Oaks Gallery
Speaker 1: or yeah, maybe or Glendale Gallery.
Speaker 3: They were holding those shopping bags so weird. And then
Speaker 3: like just going in a circle. It was like very odd, but.
Speaker 6: What and they were showing like actual brand names, which
Speaker 6: they don't. They walked right go back and beyond William's
Speaker 6: so Noma bag. She even mentioned Williams Sonoma.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It must have paid so many for that, but product placement,
Speaker 6: so they can't decide what to give Christopher. Laurel I
Speaker 6: says there should be a store for husband gifts. And
Speaker 6: then they go into like the Learning Store or whatever
Speaker 6: it was called, and they see Luke and April, and
Speaker 6: so this is where Laurl Life gets her inspiration for
Speaker 6: what she's going to write in the letter. So she
Speaker 6: sees Luke and Rory talking and she realizes how much
Speaker 6: of a dad Luke has been to Rory, and that's
Speaker 6: gonna end up.
Speaker 1: Being I think that was more dialogue between Luke and
Speaker 1: Rory in one scene than they've had in the aggregate.
Speaker 6: I think you're right. Yea, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: It was kind of odd. It was like, wow, they're
Speaker 1: actually having a scene together.
Speaker 5: The monogram towels and the unicorn. That's cute.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a cute scene and they were all,
Speaker 6: you know, pleasant to each other, and April was cute.
Speaker 6: Like it just was a good scene.
Speaker 5: Family.
Speaker 1: Laurel ied face acting during that, like, yeah, I thought she.
Speaker 2: Was good in this whole episode, And I actually really
Speaker 2: liked the face acting, and you immediately knew, Aha, she's good.
Speaker 3: Write the letter based.
Speaker 5: On this, but you also like realize, like that should
Speaker 5: have been the family, you know what I mean, that
Speaker 5: should have been the family.
Speaker 6: Luke, April, Laureli, Rory.
Speaker 5: The four of them gel together, they fit together, They
Speaker 5: make sense.
Speaker 1: He helped raise her. Yeah, and her all Laurel in
Speaker 1: the face. Yeah, particularly great face acting here.
Speaker 5: Particularly, it was just the chemistry between the four of
Speaker 5: them is just so different than Christopher.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just that was It was a good scene.
Speaker 6: And they flew through a few Pluto jokes in there,
Speaker 6: because this is you know, the time that Pluto got
Speaker 6: kicked out of.
Speaker 3: Being That was funny. That was funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, so we're in the square. They just left
Speaker 6: Dosie's Lane is having a lot of anxiety about her
Speaker 6: impending mother.
Speaker 3: Hard time concentrating on them. I was so into all
Speaker 3: the background.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, wow, they really Someone was on
Speaker 2: the bike and I was like, I can't focus.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I thought it was relatable. There's a lot of anxiety
Speaker 6: about well for some of us, about becoming a mom
Speaker 6: for the first time. And she made a valid point,
Speaker 6: like she didn't have really any time to like live
Speaker 6: as an independent adult. She went straight from you know,
Speaker 6: being under her mom's thumb to getting pregnant on her
Speaker 6: honeymoon and now she's going to be a mom of twins,
Speaker 6: and she had like ten seconds to be you know,
Speaker 6: on her own. And so I completely related to it.
Speaker 6: And I had time, like I have my first kid
Speaker 6: until I was in my thirties. But I just I
Speaker 6: completely related to it. I thought it was good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I kept thinking, what if they had written
Speaker 1: it that she was the other end of the spectrum
Speaker 1: on this extremely joyful and happy Yeah, that kind of.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was some women are like that.
Speaker 5: It was realistic for her, she's so young, and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I will say, I with somebody who's going through that
Speaker 5: much anxiety and wishing that they can, you know, have
Speaker 5: a second to be an adult complaining about missus Kim
Speaker 5: felt a little bit off. Yeah, like, you know, because
Speaker 5: in that situation. I everyone's different, though, but I would
Speaker 5: glom onto my mom and be like, please help me
Speaker 5: raise this child. Yeah, but you know, everyone's different. But
Speaker 5: but yeah, I did like that. They came to the conclusion,
Speaker 5: all right, well, what if we do mom on the
Speaker 5: weekend so that you know, you can still play and
Speaker 5: go on the road and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: I agree with your point, Danielle. I think she's kind
Speaker 6: of feeling like everybody is telling her what to do still,
Speaker 6: like telling her what to eat and how many times
Speaker 6: to pee and all that stuff. So I can see
Speaker 6: how you know, she was kind of like pushing back
Speaker 6: against her mom, But at the same time, it did
Speaker 6: come across as a little ungrateful, like her mom, you know,
Speaker 6: is uprooting herself and putting a lot of things aside
Speaker 6: to come move in with them and help them. And
Speaker 6: like I was with you, like when I had my
Speaker 6: first kid, I was like, Mom, I need you to
Speaker 6: not leave my house, like you need to come just
Speaker 6: be right by my side at all times. So I totally,
Speaker 6: I totally agree with that, and I think that she
Speaker 6: could have been a little nicer about her mom. But
Speaker 6: overall I could see where she was coming from.
Speaker 5: Still that pregnant belly. Sorry, yeah, I know it was
Speaker 5: It's all overtook every scene for me. I'm like you,
Speaker 5: guys on, I know it was a little overdone.
Speaker 6: I agree, Okay, So then okay, we're back in front
Speaker 6: of Luke's April is leaving because they went on the
Speaker 6: shopping trip and now April was getting ready to go home,
Speaker 6: and April is trying to like she misses Luke. She
Speaker 6: was trying to figure out a way that they can.
Speaker 2: They even talk about they even talk about the lawyer,
Speaker 2: like it was like, wow, this is you know, she
Speaker 2: knows everything happening, right, So.
Speaker 6: I think Luke thought that she was kind of in
Speaker 6: the dark about the whole thing, and until she says, well,
Speaker 6: mom hired a real shark, and then Luke was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 6: I guess I guess the kid knows everything. But he
Speaker 6: was very diplomatic about it. I thought, you know, he
Speaker 6: was you know, we're just not seeing eye to eye.
Speaker 6: So that was that was a cute scene.
Speaker 2: I thought, I like that that father daughter in your
Speaker 2: helmet because that's the first thing I was like, she
Speaker 2: gonna put that he.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, that was a quick scene, but I thought
Speaker 6: it was poignant.
Speaker 1: It was good.
Speaker 6: And then we come to the final scene. Was Laurel
Speaker 6: I now because she ran into Luke and had her inspiration,
Speaker 6: she's she knows what to type. She's on her typewriter.
Speaker 6: When was the last time you saw like that, an
Speaker 6: old school typewriter like that. It wasn't even electric. It
Speaker 6: was like the kind with the handle you had.
Speaker 3: To push like that was.
Speaker 6: That's been a few minutes and she finishes her letter,
Speaker 6: and then I noticed that she didn't even sign it.
Speaker 6: She just pulls it out of the typewriter and folds
Speaker 6: it up and puts it in.
Speaker 3: That didn't bother me as much. Yeah, I just yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I noticed, but.
Speaker 6: She paused. She came downstairs, and she paused for a
Speaker 6: minute and heard like the family kind of banter in
Speaker 6: the kitchen.
Speaker 3: I'm sort of happy about that. Also, it was like
Speaker 3: very yeah. Yeah, I was like, huh, this is interesting.
Speaker 6: Right, I know, I didn't quite know what to think
Speaker 6: about because the same it was like is she like
Speaker 6: it was almost like she was starting to feel happy that,
Speaker 6: you know, Christopher was there and that this was all happening.
Speaker 6: But and then she goes to mail the letter and
Speaker 6: it starts snowing, because which was like okay, and she's sad.
Speaker 1: You know, the symbolism of that is not lost on us.
Speaker 1: This is Luke involved letter mailing trigger snow trigger memory
Speaker 1: of I smell snow trigger memory of deeply affectionate Luke
Speaker 1: and Laurel. I him, she's trying to bring him into
Speaker 1: the fold. He's, you know, out there looking at the snow,
Speaker 1: smelling the snow reluctantly. But I think the whole thing
Speaker 1: was just it was a beautiful ending, actually her walking
Speaker 1: away and being alone and remembering and helping, remembering the
Speaker 1: past and maybe hoping for future with Luke. I think
Speaker 1: it was very powerful, very very well done.
Speaker 6: That crane shot I thought was really good where it's
Speaker 6: like lifting up and you see her walking down the street.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, great shot.
Speaker 3: Right up. Episode. I actually really really liked this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are we going to rate it? What's the
Speaker 1: what's the measuring stick? What's the measuring stick here? M Danielle,
Speaker 1: what are you going to give it?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Sorry, okay, I'm going to give it a jump the
Speaker 3: gun there eight wow, eight.
Speaker 5: Seven, seven and three quarters wow, seven and three quarters unicorns.
Speaker 1: Remember we're comparing it to the first six seasons, and
Speaker 1: the bar is very high.
Speaker 5: I recalibrate my meter each season.
Speaker 3: This is first season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for season seven, this is a nine overall compared
Speaker 2: to the others.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a seven.
Speaker 5: No, I would give it like a six, but I.
Speaker 3: Think the stockings, the sparkly and burned stockings.
Speaker 1: An, what do you think I met? But Nadaniel, did
Speaker 1: you use a measuring stick?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 6: Okay, Susanne, I like this episode even though it's season seven.
Speaker 6: If I sometimes when I'm in a Christmas mood, I'll
Speaker 6: put this episode on just for fun. So I'm going
Speaker 6: to give it. I'm going to give it nine because
Speaker 6: I think it's whoa whoa one scene I would get
Speaker 6: rid of, but I'm going to give it nine. Nice
Speaker 6: fraggley Christmas trees.
Speaker 3: I like it all right. Next to whom it may concern,
Speaker 3: no Amy, we haven't heard your no, I said, Oh, I.
Speaker 2: Said the sparkly stockings. And I'm giving it somewhere between
Speaker 2: a seven and a nine, because as this season goes,
Speaker 2: it's definitely a nine, but in the series it's more
Speaker 2: like a seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm down there in the fives. Sorry, wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm just down there in the fives.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll give it a five point five snowflakes good, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's the thing that saved it from being a four.
Speaker 1: You know, I like the snow flakes. Anyway, that's going
Speaker 1: to do her best. Fans on the planet, Thank you, ladies,
Speaker 1: San French, Daniel Rome, Amy Sugarman. That is going to
Speaker 1: wrap it up. We will see you next time.
Speaker 3: Whom it may concern next week is to whom it
Speaker 3: may concern.
Speaker 1: Whom it may concern, Episode twelve, Season seven. It's we're
Speaker 1: kind of getting into the final stretch here of crazy.
Speaker 1: It's actually crazy wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like we just started this thing like last month,
Speaker 1: and and here we are so weird it is. It's
Speaker 1: very emotional. Anyway, keep the cards and letters coming and
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