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So 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: bombing continues between the US and Iran, and as of now, 21 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: no market moving truth has been announced, which is a 22 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: break from previous form. 23 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: So we'll get into all of that. 24 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 2: Trump is touting these freedom fuel gas stations and there's 25 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: a bit of a mystery of what is going on 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: with these things and who is behind it, So we 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: will dig into that. Senator Lindsay Graham is dead, but 28 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell is apparently alive based on a photo that 29 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: he put out. We will take a look at Lindsay Graham, 30 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: who's likely to replace him, the legacy that he leaves 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: behind him, and what the hell is going on with 32 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell, who continues to be hospitalized. Rocanna was detained 33 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: by the IDF and some illegal settlers. He is going 34 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: to join us Live to talk about his experience and 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: what he learned on his trip to the occupied West Bank. 36 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: Trump's doj has subpoened some journalist at the New York 37 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: Times and is also investigating the head of the UAW. 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: So we will break those stories down you down for 39 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: you as well. 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This is from Sentcom as 87 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: of five pm today, this was yesterday. US Central Command 88 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: has began launching more strikes against Iran quote to continue 89 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: degrading their ability to attack civilian mariners and commercial ships 90 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: freely transiting the Strait of more Moves. The Commander in 91 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Chief has directed the strikes to hold Iranian forces accountable. Noteworthy, 92 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: these are no longer quote self defense strikes. These are 93 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: just strikes, and of course that means that we have 94 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: continued to see a breakdown here in the memorand of 95 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: understanding and of the ceasefire. Generally, let's go to the 96 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: next one. This is also very important. This was the 97 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: fresh round of strikes, and these actually included images and 98 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: video of US assets that were taking flight from carriers, 99 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: from different missiles and other standoff munitions that are being 100 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: used here by the United States, presumably either a Tomahawk 101 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: missile or some other sort of projectile that's being launched 102 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: by the United States against Iranian assets all along the 103 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz. What's noteworthy here is that this is 104 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: now no longer a battle of regime change. This is 105 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: entirely a war, both in terms of what the US 106 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: is striking, what Iran is striking directly at the Strait 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: of Horn Moves and its control. So here's what sent 108 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: Kam said in this video announcement. US forces hit approximately 109 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty Iranian military targets with precision munitions. 110 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Launch targets included missile and drone sides, naval capabilities, ammunition storage, 111 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: communication networks, and coastal surveillance location. So this follows tit 112 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: for tat strikes from the United from Iran against multiple 113 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: commercial ships that were transiting the Straight of horm Moves. Now, 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: when we say transiting, what they were doing is they 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: were using this route which is coordinated between the United 116 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: States government and the government of Oman. What this comes 117 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: down to is a misunderstanding or a different understanding of 118 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: what free passage to the Straight of Hormor Moves was 119 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: supposed to, say Crystal in that memorandum of understanding, Iran's 120 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: understanding was we will, and I believe the text even 121 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: says make our best efforts to coordinate free passage. What 122 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: they meant by that was you coordinate with us. All 123 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: traffic now comes through the Iranian government. The United States 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: took that as for the next sixty days, ships can 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: float freely. What they're trying to do is set up 126 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: an alternative route that bypasses any Iranian control, any Iranian communication, 127 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: to bypass any future ability of Iran to say that 128 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: they can charge tolls, environmental fees, whatever you want to 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: call it, and their ability to control the Strait. So 130 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: this is now a war for the Strait. There's no 131 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: longer regime change, not even Israel, which is involved here. 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: It is a war for the control of the Strait itself, 133 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: which of course was free and open on February twenty 134 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: eighth before the war was. 135 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: That's right, and in a sense it makes sense that 136 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: the straight Ofform moves would be almost a more difficult 137 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: issue than even the nuclear issues, because the straight Ofform 138 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: moves now is Iran's key to power and Iran's key 139 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: to deterrence. It is de facto acting like the development 140 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: of a nuclear weapon would. And so I think the 141 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: MoU it would not surprise me if that language that 142 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: is now being interpreted in different ways by both sides 143 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 2: was kept intentionally vague because there is such a difference 144 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: of view on what needs to happen in the straight 145 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: of Horm moves. 146 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that there. 147 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: Is any specific, clearcut language that could potentially satisfy both sides. 148 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: So that's where we are at this point. Iran is 149 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: saying absolutely none. I think the US going into with 150 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Trump going into the MoU is like, well, we'll keep 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: it vague and then we'll see what we can get 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: away with. And the Iranians are basically saying we're not 153 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: letting you get away with anything. 154 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: So until this is resolved. 155 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: You are going to continue to have this escalation trap. 156 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Robert Paipe vindicated once again here. 157 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: Until basically the US accepts that they have lost control 158 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: Destrait Hormus Aron is going to control it, and it 159 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: is going to dramatically increase both their revenue and their 160 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: power in the region and act as a very effective deterrent. 161 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: So that's what this is all over. Right now. 162 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: There are some preliminary reports that carg Island may have 163 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: been struck this morning and some of the oil infrastructure there. 164 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: We don't have that confirmed at this point. That would 165 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: be a dramatic escalation. And I want to go ahead 166 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: and play because I think this is very noteworthy, Like 167 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: what is the US plan here? Okay, We've already done 168 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: the bombing campaign. We've hit this, We've hit their that, 169 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: their bridges, their railway ways, we've hit their civilian infrastructure. 170 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: We've bombed a girls' school, We've done all of this stuff. 171 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: It didn't amount to a victory. So what are we 172 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: going to do that is going to be different. Let's 173 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: play eight be This is a former Sentcom commander who 174 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: is floating this idea of seizing carg Island with the 175 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: notion that, oh, well, if we do that, maybe we 176 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: can't hold it indefinitely, but we can use it as 177 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: some sort of leverage in these negotiations so we can 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: get more of what the US wants. 179 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a listen to that. 180 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: We certainly have the capability to control the straight of 181 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: horror moves if the President chooses to follow that course 182 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: of action. Look, what he's been trying to do is 183 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: get to a diplomatic and a political solution here, which 184 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 4: I applaud and I think we should all want to 185 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: see as the final instate. Nonetheless, the fact of the 186 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: matter is the Iranians generally only respond to military force 187 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: and to extreme pressure. Look, we're not talking about regime 188 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 4: change here. What we're talking about is modifying the views 189 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: and actions of an extreme, hard, hard line regime. That 190 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: is possible. We have the capability to do that. That 191 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: capability is resident in the US military. Should the President 192 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: elect to employ it. That would include opening the Straight 193 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 4: of Horror Moves, maintaining the Strait of Horror Moves open, 194 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: and in fact seizing carg Island should we elect to 195 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: do that. And I would just say, as an aside, 196 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: that's something we should think about doing because possession of 197 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Iranian soil would be a significant factor in future negotiations 198 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: with Iran. So all those options are on the table. 199 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 4: I'm not sure where we're going to go with this, 200 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 4: but I do know we have these capabilities. 201 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 5: We have those capabilities where the President has made clear 202 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 5: he kind of just wants a he wants a deal here. 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: How do you explain to the lay person when the 204 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 5: President says we control the Strait of War moves, but 205 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: then Sentcom says military forces are positioned to ensure freedom 206 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: of navigation, which makes it sound it isn't exactly free 207 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: flowing traffic here. 208 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: No, it's not right now because we have not deployed 209 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: all the capabilities that we have to open the strait. 210 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: We certainly can do that. It would require putting warships 211 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: up into narrow waters. Look, the US Navy doesn't love 212 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 4: to do that, but they're very good at it, and 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: if necessary, they can do it, and they can do 214 00:09:59,480 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: it well. 215 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: So with regard Sager to the ConTroll and straight of 216 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: her moves, he says, well, we'd have to put our 217 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: warships in narrow waters. Well, why haven't we wanted to 218 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: do that, because they're going to get it, hit get it. 219 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: Because you're putting people then at massive risk, not to 220 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: mention the equipment, but the people first and foremost, and 221 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: that could be a potential massive disaster. That's why it 222 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: has not been done. And in terms of this fantasy 223 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: with regard to carg Island, let's say that you're able 224 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: to seize it, which potentially they could, then you have 225 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: to hold it, and once again you have an occupying 226 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: force that become sitting ducks. That's why Trump has not 227 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: wanted to go forward with any of these options. 228 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: But I think these are ideas. 229 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: It's not coming out of nowhere that this guy is 230 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: floating this on a Sunday show. I think these are 231 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: ideas that are being contemplated right now and that no 232 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: one should be shocked if they pursue. 233 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: And in terms of where Trump's had, this is breaking 234 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the literally just happened. Trump is right right live right 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: now on Fox and friends. Paying homage to Lindsey Graham, 236 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: he says, quote, we are taking over the straight afore moves. 237 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: So that's a direct quote there from the President. Now 238 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: we have heard that a million times. The other quotes. 239 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 1: Trump was asked about Iran rebuilding, he said, Iran has 240 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: no chance. We will probably run the straight up Hoore moves. 241 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: Iran didn't get anything from me, and the United States 242 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: will be reimbursed for its control over the Straight. Now, again, 243 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: we have no idea whether any of that will be 244 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: backed up by action, but we do know and this 245 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk a lot about this with Lindsay Graham, is 246 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: that there is an entire infrastructure of very highly politically 247 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: effective operatives behind the scenes who are ready are willing 248 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: to color in the lines for what it actually means. 249 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: When Trump is in a mindset of let's bomb, let's bomb, 250 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: let's continue the war, and let's actually back up you 251 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: know these actions in these words that you're taking. Let's 252 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: put a three up here just to show everybody. These 253 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: are some images that came out from Iran Kesham Island, 254 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: which is also in the Persian Gulf. We could see 255 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: the smoke that was rising there that happened yesterday. Now 256 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: in terms of the Iranian response, let's go ahead and 257 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: see some of those. Let's put a six for example 258 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: up here on the screen. This is very noteworthy. The 259 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Kuwaiti government put out a statement last night saying that 260 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: three northern land border centers in the country were subjected 261 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: to an attack. Additionally, one of the offshore drilling platforms, 262 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: which is affiliated with Kuwait's oil company in Kuwaiti Territorial Waters, 263 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: was targeted by a hostile drone, resulting in material damage 264 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and the injury of one worker who is receiving medical care. 265 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: So that's noteworthy because they're targeting oil infrastructure again in 266 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Gulf countries, which are of course allies protectorates here of 267 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: the United States. So that kind of shows you that 268 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: we're right back to the exchange of hostilities. The only 269 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: real change here is that Israel and Iran are not 270 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: exchanging any missiles or drones or any of that as 271 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: of right now. So that does show you though that 272 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: the israelis behind this. What they're all doing is they're 273 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: pushing hard to be able to re enter the war. 274 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: You can actually see some of that. Let's put a 275 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: four for example up here. On the screen. This was 276 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: a threat that was issued by Trump over the weekend. 277 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: He says, one thousand missiles are locked loaded aimed at 278 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: the Islamic Republic of Iran, with thousands more to immediately 279 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: follow should the government act on its threat pronounced in 280 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: many corners of the globe to assassinate or attempt to 281 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: assassinate the sitting president of the United States. In this case, 282 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: me orders have been given and the US military is ready, 283 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: willing and able for one year period of time, subject 284 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: to extension, to completely decimate and destroy all areas of Iran. 285 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: So this came after Israel apparently shared intelligence with the 286 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: United States intelligence that Iran wants to assassinate Trump. So 287 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: we're right back. Remember this was a very important rhetorical 288 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: talking point for Lindsay Graham for Bibnat Yahoo in the 289 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: original launching of the war, they claimed that Iran was 290 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: behind these cockamami assassination plots to target Trump, and this 291 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: time around they're saying again, Hey, you actually are being 292 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: targeted right now by the Iranians. They want to kill you. 293 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: There's actually relevant to our later piece on subpoenas, which 294 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: involves air force and why Trump was forced apparently to 295 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: change planes because the current plane that was given by 296 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: the Nation of Katar apparently doesn't have the right defensive capabilities. 297 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: But the point remains whether any of this is real 298 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: or not, which I highly doubt. There's why would they 299 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: do that, They're going to assassinate Trump. It's like, okay, 300 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: it's your entire country's gonna get nuked to like, why 301 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: would you potentially want that? Whenever you control the straight 302 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: you basically run. You know, you're in a tit for tap, 303 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: but everything is really on your side. Regardless, Israel has 304 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: been pushing that. That puts something in Trump's mind. This 305 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: enables this Fox News industrial complex and others were always 306 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: very upset about the deal. Jd Vance is like missing 307 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: in action. Haven't seen them on TV in three weeks. 308 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: We all know why? Yeah, we know why. Right, nobody's 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: talking to Geneva, so you could see where this stuff 310 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: starts to lead. 311 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: Can I tell you also what I know with people, 312 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: I feel the same way that it's like the same 313 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: back to the rodeo every single weekend, same dynamics. Okay, 314 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: here we go bombing again. Then they're on Monday, they're talking, 315 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: and then they're back to the beast deal. And it 316 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: seems like you know, Lucy with the food football, We're 317 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: just repeating this over and over this week. 318 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: We have not gotten that. 319 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: Monday morning, Hey guys, it's all good, you know, put bygones, 320 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: be bygones. We're close to a piece deal. We haven't 321 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: gotten that. Instead, we have Trump this morning continued to bluster. 322 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: We have stock market you know, futures are are down, 323 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: oil prices going up. So that is a significant break 324 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: in the pattern that we have been seeing. And whether 325 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: it was you know, Trump being convinced about this new 326 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, Israeli lies about his potential assassination, whether it's 327 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: Iran forcefully asserting its control over the Strait of Horn 328 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: moves and it becoming clear that this is an irreconcilable 329 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: difference that the US and Iran have at this point. 330 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, the pattern is not holding. And that's 331 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: why I think everyone should be more concerned this morning 332 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: that we could see some sort of really significant dramatic 333 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: escalation than we have in the past, something like an 334 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: attempt to seize carg Island, something like potentially bringing warships in, 335 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: you know, closer in and making them easier targets for 336 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: the Iranians to hit. And then you know, if you 337 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: have a bunch of dead American sailors, God only knows 338 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: what that means for the war going for. 339 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: And you know, it's very easy to just say, okay, 340 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: we're moving. Everyone did that with Ukraine. It's been going 341 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: on for five years. Snooze right, oh it's happening. Well, actually, 342 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: the war is more dangerous now than ever before, literally 343 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: than ever before. And that's the problem. People fall asleep 344 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: and then they wake up when something big really is happening, 345 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and all the ingredients are there. So right now, actually 346 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: this morning, Saudi Arabia apparently is bombing Yemen again. All right, 347 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: and so the Houthis they largely stayed out of the 348 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: entire exchange. But now if the United States backing Saudi 349 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: Arabia is going to start bombing the hoo Thies, that's 350 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: a real problem because we're talking about the bab Am 351 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Mandab strait, we're talking about the alternative you know, access 352 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: of oil. And just this morning, you know, the Hoothis 353 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: put out this statement in a flagrant and a brazen 354 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: act of aggression, the criminal Saudi enemy has targeted Sana 355 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: International airport, thereby ending the de escalation phase and bearing 356 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: the consequences of its aggression. We affirm that this aggression 357 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: will not pass without response and without punishment. So the 358 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: Saudist feel emboldened. Golf countries were bombing Iran recently. We 359 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: still don't even know which one. It was all done 360 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: in secret. Nobody really confirmed any of that. Well here, 361 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: if the Saudis are entering again in the war in Yemen, 362 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: well then Yemen and the hoo these no longer have 363 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: the incentive to stay out of it. There was an 364 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: assumption of money, a lot of money exchanged hands to 365 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: keep that straight open while the main war was going on. 366 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Well what if that goes and gets closed. Now you 367 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: have a real catastrophe situation. And they of course could 368 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: fire against Israel, which they have previously in the past. Finally, 369 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: let's just put a eight up here on the screen. 370 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: From Iran's strategy. We've extensively described it. But the Financial 371 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: Times did a very good job here and they did 372 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: some reporting inside the regime. What they say is Iran 373 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: Betts Trump will blink first at the end of the day. 374 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: As we have heard it all before, so have they. 375 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: They have it all. You know, they've heard it all 376 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: and they actually have the stakes. So inside of their 377 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: thinking they say that they're gambling. Their aim is self preservation. 378 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: They cannot allow the even in you know, by inches 379 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: of their control, of their perceived control over the Strait 380 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: of Hormuz, and they basically think, we have to fight 381 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: to the teeth. In their view, they beat the United States, 382 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: the regime remains, it survives, is completely in power, and 383 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: as a result, to ensure not only regime survival but 384 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: their prosperity in the future, they have to be able 385 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: to control the strait. They think Trump will blink. I 386 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: don't think that's a bad bet necessarily, but we also 387 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: know what the structure is here in Washington where think 388 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: about the amount of political capital he expended for the 389 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: initial memorandum of understanding and the Neo kan freak out, 390 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: which are the last people who really still love Trump. Well, 391 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: now you know they showed and demonstrated their ability to 392 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: exert their influence, their political power. You know, they lit 393 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: him up on Fox News. The entire industrial complex went 394 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: after him. They viciously attacked the vice president. You know, 395 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: they set up everything for that, and now that he's 396 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: back potentially in their good graces, they're going to shower 397 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: him in the tongue bath, which he so desperately wants, 398 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: and it could very easily work. Strategy may not be bad, 399 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: but you know, it assumes you're dealing with the rational 400 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: actor and that the incentives are not equal, because with Trump, 401 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: the oil market is a serious incentive, but the neocons 402 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: are a real incentive too. Yeah, that's what worries me 403 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: more than anything. 404 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: No, absolutely very difficult to predict what comes next. And 405 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 2: you know it's always been a question too of whether 406 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: he could handle the humiliation of having to effectively accept 407 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: an American defeat at the hands of Iran and accept 408 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: what would be required, which the big thing here is 409 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: allowing them to effectively control the straight or four moves 410 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: and have this increased power in the region, total change 411 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: in terms of you know, our ability to project force 412 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: throughout the region, you know, our basing strategy. There, all 413 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: of that being up and there can he actually accept that? 414 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: Can will his his base? 415 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: Which Zuckers right, I mean sort of ironic given the 416 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: way Trump positioned himself as the anti war candidate and 417 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: against the Iraq war. If we go back to twenty 418 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: sixteen that the last bastion of his strong support now 419 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: are the very neocons who hated him at the ging. 420 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham will talk about that in a bit, the 421 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: way that so many of them have shifted and their 422 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: orientation towards him as he's done the things. 423 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 3: That they have wanted him to do. 424 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 2: But in any case, can you take that ego hit 425 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: And the Iranians are looking at the fact that, you know, 426 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: our strategic patrol and reserve continues to dwindle. It is 427 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: not being refilled during this time, and that has really 428 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: been an important buffer for us in terms of gas prices. 429 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: Gas prices are high, they could be higher, So you know, 430 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: I think the Iranians are looking at that. 431 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: And the last thing I'll. 432 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Say is at the Supreme Leaders the Ietola's funeral, you 433 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: could visually see how much hardline sentiment there is within Iran. 434 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: So we have to remember that it's not just Americans 435 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: who have domestic political considerations. The Iranians do too, and 436 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: they had to expend a lot of political capital in 437 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 2: order to move forward negotiations and accept this memo of 438 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 2: understanding or call. The new Supreme Leader said basically like, 439 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: this isn't my thing, but I'm going to trust my 440 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,239 Speaker 2: guys and we'll see where this goes. That was an 441 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: indication he's trying to see, Okay, which way is this 442 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: going to play out? And what is public sentiment going 443 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: to support. So both in terms of the government in 444 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: terms of the people, you have, you know, significant sentiment 445 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: in favor of going back to war and that we 446 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: didn't do enough and we didn't cause enough pain for 447 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: the Israelis and the American Empire for us to be 448 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: able to really secure our position and make sure that 449 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: we don't end up here again. 450 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: So that is also it is the height of American arrogance. 451 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: Is we always assume we're the only ones with domestic politics. Yes. 452 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 453 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: The Iatola literally was like, I don't know about this, 454 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: but Gallibov tells me it's good, so I'll allow him. 455 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: To do it. 456 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're like, what do you think that means? 457 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, you can read he doesn't take a genius 458 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: to figure it out. If they seriously went out on 459 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: a limb. A lot of these you know, non hardliners, 460 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: but even they themselves, if you look at their rhetoric, 461 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: they have to appease the IRGC. I mean, I don't 462 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: think it's false that there is a power struggle inside 463 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: of Iran, but the actions make it clear. Every time 464 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: that the negotiators try to throw the IRGC under the bus, 465 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, it was just a few commanders who 466 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: fired into the straight they fire again. Nobody is constraining them. 467 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: You can, by the way, thank America for that, because 468 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: the last person who could actually restrain them was the 469 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: previous Iatola, who's not dead, who is the actual cautious, 470 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, leader of Iran who did no war nor 471 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: peace strategy. Now you actually have people inside the regime 472 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: who either can't be restrained or potentially the current Iatola, 473 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: whose own father was murdered, who can just say okay, go, 474 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: let's go, and he's not going to do anything to 475 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: restrain them. So we have no idea how it's going 476 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: to happen. And let's get, as you said, to the 477 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: Freedom Fuel and the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, which remains a 478 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: serious problem and gas still very stubbornly high here in 479 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: the United States. 480 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: So Whitehouse recently put out this video touting a chain 481 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: of quote unquote Freedom Fuel gas stations which are offering 482 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: gas prices much lower than the rest of the market. 483 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a look at this video. 484 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 7: I save money. I had to go back and they 485 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 7: get my change. I thought gas was more space, but 486 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 7: it's not, so thanks chump, saving me some money. 487 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 8: We're here at the first Freedom Fueled Network gas station 488 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 8: right here in Philadelphia, leading the charge to lower gas 489 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 8: prices three dollars and then forty seven cents. That's for 490 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 8: our forty seventh President, Resident Donald J. 491 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 6: Trump. 492 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 8: The price of gas here is fifty cents lower than 493 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 8: the Pennsylvania average gas price. The parts of July, gas 494 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 8: prices are coming down, which is great. 495 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 9: Tell them very happy about the cheap gas prices. 496 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 7: Apter fourth of July. 497 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: Hopefully everyone has a great holiday, super punk the gas 498 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: prices are lowered. 499 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 6: I'm just grateful right now. We're in a difficult time 500 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: in this world, but it's nice to see some stability 501 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: that we can enjoy. 502 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 8: Definitely appreciate the lower gas. 503 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, and I saw it. I thought it was 504 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 7: a fake news, but I'm glad it's true. I definitely 505 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 7: couldn't leave my eyes and I just won't pass. I'm 506 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 7: actually taking a trip down the shore, so I wasn't 507 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 7: even gonna come and get the gag, but I'm glad 508 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 7: I did. Now they just saved me a lot of money. 509 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 7: Thanks a lot, chump. Let's keep going with your doing, 510 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 7: going a good job. 511 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for helping our country. 512 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: It's President Donald J. 513 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 8: Trump leading the charge the lower gas prices right here 514 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 8: at Freedom Fueled Network gas stations. 515 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so this went out from an official White House account, 516 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: and there's a lot to be this interesting about this. 517 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I think soccer the politics 518 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: of it are very interesting. It exposes the fact they 519 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: see this as a major problem, like they needed to 520 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: do something. Put out some propaganda like we're bringing prices down, which, 521 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: by the way, three forty seven forty seven, of course, 522 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: an honor of our forty seventh president three pickup. Oh 523 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: you didn't pick up on of course, Yes, although apparently 524 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: some of the stations have already up their price a 525 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: little bit to like three fifty something according to the 526 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: latest reporting, but in any case, it was originally three 527 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: dollars forty seven cents. It's very mysterious what is going 528 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: on here? Put the New York Times reporting up on 529 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: the screen, because the White House claims they don't have 530 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 2: anything to do with this, that they're just celebrating this. 531 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: Whoever is behind this chain of like twenty five gas 532 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 2: stations that have lowered the price to such a point 533 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: that they are likely losing money on you know, for 534 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: every car that fills up there, they're actually losing money 535 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: at this price because of what the wholesale price for 536 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: oil is at this point. So they say Trump is 537 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 2: promising freedom fuel for three dollars and forty seven cents 538 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: a gallon. Who is behind it? These are different gas 539 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: stations that had a bunch of different branding that are 540 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: now in this Freedom Fuel Network umbrella. 541 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: A Delaware corporation was just set. 542 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: Up for this freedom Fuel network in the past couple 543 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: of weeks. The funders, investors, whoever's behind this are being 544 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: kept secret, so no one really knows what is going 545 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: on here. 546 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: Now, it does appear that there is. 547 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: An asset manager that owns at least some significant number 548 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: or did own potentially still does own some significant number 549 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: of these gas stations, and it is an asset manager 550 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 2: that Trump just happens to have millions of dollars of 551 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: investments in. So you have that tie in here. Potentially 552 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: you know, corrupt angle as well, but certainly an indication 553 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: that they realize this gas price thing is a major 554 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: major problem for them and they're despert to score any 555 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: kind of a propaganda win on that front. 556 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting. This put B three up here. 557 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: So Politico also did the investigation like who is paying 558 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: for this? And nobody can really figure it out who's 559 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: footing the bill because I remember we're talking about almost 560 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: a fifty cent cut. And you may even ask like, okay, 561 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: so in the gas market, how come there's no race 562 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: to price And it's like because they run on a 563 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: very standard margin. The way that it all works, it 564 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 1: doesn't really enable you to do this. That's why this 565 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: is so extraordinary. And somebody out there is got this 566 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: twenty five stations which are only in southeastern Pennsylvania and 567 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: South Jersey. I think that that is a very targeted place. 568 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: Southeastern Pa is like the definition of swing country. That's 569 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: exactly where you had the classic like, oh, I'm a 570 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: Trump Biden Trump voter who exists and that's why it 571 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: appears to be concentrated in this region. What they say 572 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: is they quote, we've had members who have this is 573 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: like according to the New Jersey Energy Markets Group, we 574 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: had members who have reached out to ask what it is. 575 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I have not been able to find any answers, the 576 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: executive director of their own Energy Markets Group. So, as 577 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: you said, it's a Delaware company that was formed on 578 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: June twenty third, that's a week before it was promoted. 579 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: The White House won't name who it is, describing it 580 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: as a private company. The officials said there is no 581 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: defined timeline for how long these discounts will be offered. 582 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: They will refuse to connect representatives of Freedom Fueld network 583 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: with Politico Freedom Fuel. They just say, is a patriotic 584 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: company doing a good thing for drivers. I'm sure that's 585 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: all it is. And as you said, this sketchy affiliate 586 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: something called Blue Owl, a New York based asset company. 587 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: Trump has sold millions of dollars in Blue Owl stock 588 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: through its subsidiaries. Blue Owl owns hundreds of gas stations 589 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: operated by a Georgia based gas supplier and retailer called 590 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: Mountain Express Oil, but it declared bankruptcy in twenty twenty 591 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: three and declined to expand nationwide. So nobody knows anything 592 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: about Blue Owl. The White House claims blue Owl has 593 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Freedom Fuel, but it is one 594 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: of those stations which did previously hold a host to 595 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: an American Trump White House official at an unveiling ceremony 596 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: last Friday. So we could start to put some of 597 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: the pieces together here. 598 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: And Trump still has he sold some blue Owl stock 599 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: last year. He still has millions of dollars of blue 600 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Owl holdings. They seem to be Trump friendly. It says 601 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: at least seven of these stations that are now in 602 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: the Freedom Fuel network are owned by affiliates of Blue Owl, 603 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: so that seems to be the most likely thing here. 604 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 605 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: My own theory, and this is just a theory, is 606 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: that this is some Trump aligned billionaire talk to them, 607 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: they hatch this idea. Whoever this person is that is 608 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: fronting the cash that would be required to sustain these losses, 609 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: because that is what's going on here. They're definitely selling 610 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: this fuel at a loss at this point once some 611 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: other favor from Trump or just wants to be in 612 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: as good graces in general. And so this is a 613 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, you scratch my back, I'll scratch or as 614 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: sort of the situation, as most things in the Trump 615 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: White House are at this point. 616 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: So that's the best I can figure. 617 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: But you know, obviously in terms of the impact on 618 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: gas prices nationwide, it is going to be nil. I 619 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: don't know how long whoever is funding this is going 620 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 2: to be willing to put up with these losses. As 621 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: I mentioned before, some of the gas stations have already 622 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: increased their prices, and one theory was, well, you know, 623 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: sometimes if you have like at the larger gases like 624 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: huah Wah or Sheets, where you have a large offering, 625 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: you know, they're selling sandwiches and all sorts of other 626 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: stuff inside, you can lower the gas prices and you 627 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: can sustain a loss because what you're really making the 628 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: money on is then people going inside and buying a 629 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: sandwich and getting their cough be in whatever. But a 630 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: lot of these stations are just you know, the type 631 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: that you would see in neighborhoods where it's they don't 632 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 2: really even have a store, and they sell like a few 633 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,479 Speaker 2: candy bars effectively in some gatorades or some Monster Energy drinks, 634 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: but not a large convenience station. So it wouldn't make 635 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: sense from an economic perspective to sell the fuel a 636 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: loss just to bring people into the convenience store. 637 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: The majority of them are not operating on that model, 638 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: so I don't know. 639 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: There's also theoretically in New Jersey there's actually a law 640 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: against selling under the market price, because then, you know what, 641 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: you don't want a big station coming in and undercutting 642 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: all of the local retailers and being able to sustain 643 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: that long enough to push all of them out of business. 644 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 2: So that could be enforced at some point. But in 645 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: any case, very interesting, very mysterious, very noteworthy to me 646 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: that Trump is pushing this, and the White House is 647 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: pushing this from official White House. 648 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: Imagine celebrating three fifty a gallon, like, I'm sorry, that's crazy. 649 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: That's the other I already have it eighty a gallon, 650 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: like it was cheap. Can we put b five up 651 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: here just to show people like gas is still three 652 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: eighty seven a gallon? Nationally still five dollars and thirty 653 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: eight cents a gallon in California, all of those Red states, 654 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: it's either four or five dollars a gallon. All when 655 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,479 Speaker 1: I say read like in terms of the graphic if 656 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: you're just listening, which is all on the West Coast, 657 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: in addition to New York, and to Illinois, where gas 658 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: all remains above four dollars a gallon. Nationally, the cheapest, 659 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: some of the cheapest gas in the country is in 660 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Texas three forty two. It still not cheap, right, So 661 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: they're barely selling it in Pennsylvania for slightly below what 662 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: are slightly around what it is sold in Texas, and 663 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania the price person in the entire state the 664 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: average price is three ninety six accounts, so still right 665 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: around four dollars. What is that four or five months 666 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: now of almost four dollars a gallon gasoline? That's incredibly 667 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: detrimental to the overall pocketbook lasting on New Jersey, have 668 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: you experienced this where they don't let you pump your 669 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: own gas? So look, I'm usually you know, on the 670 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: on the side of small business and all that, but 671 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: I can't stand that. I got to be honest, It's like, 672 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: it's like New Jersey and Oregon the only two states 673 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: where they make you do it. And I'm like, this 674 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: is madness. I just let people pump their own pass and. 675 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: When people do things for me that, I'm. 676 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: I totally agree. It's weird. Yeah, it's third world behavior, 677 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: that's what they do. In India because everybody needs a job, 678 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: you know. It's like that's what they do, which is fine. 679 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: They have overpopulation problem over there. But this is New Jersey, Like, 680 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't need somebody to pump my own gap. I 681 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: haven't electric cars. It don't matter anymore. I did recently 682 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: stop in New Jersey and I was like walking through 683 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: the parking lot and there's all those you know, those 684 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: attendants just standing there. I'm like, what do you guys 685 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: do all day? Just pump gas? Like this is crazy anyway, 686 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: my personal soap. 687 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Last thing here, just this new amount to the broader 688 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: geopolitical perspective. Put before Up on the screen, you can 689 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: see the Strategic Petroleum Reserve still at very very low levels, 690 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: so we have not been able to refill it to 691 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: the extent that would be necessary to provide a large buffer. 692 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: This is the sort of thing that the Iranians will 693 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: be paying close close attention to, because that is their 694 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: whole bet is that you know, the gas prices are 695 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: a big problem, that the oil market is a major 696 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: pain point for the US, for the global economy, and 697 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: we've been able to buffer the pain for the American 698 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: consumer somewhat through the strategic patrol and reserve, and also 699 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: by the way through China just randomly deciding that they're 700 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: going to import a lot less oil and we don't 701 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 2: know why, and we don't know how long that will last. 702 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: So that's a big question mark that hangs over this 703 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: whole thing, whether they will continue bailing us out the 704 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: way that they have effectively been doing. But that is 705 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: when the Iranians, you know, when we talk about oh, 706 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: they think Trump will bring blink first. They think that 707 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: the American you know, consumer pain and the global economic 708 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 2: pain will force concessions from the American side. This is 709 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: what they're looking at, and so this is an indication 710 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: that their logic has a lot to it, that Trump 711 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: sees this as a major, major political issue heading into 712 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: the midterm. 713 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: This is where I wonder if the Iranians made a 714 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: big mistake because you know, Jay kind of let the game, 715 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: you can let the cut of the bag interview when 716 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: he was like, look, we're just going to take these 717 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: few months to you know, restock terms. Well, he's kind 718 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: of right. I mean, in terms of the spr we 719 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: haven't done it. It would be a huge bowl signal 720 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: for the price of oil. If the government had to 721 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: start refilling. But I would not put it past the 722 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: Trump administration just drain the spr as far as it 723 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: could possibly go, like the minimum to it. I know 724 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: they're at minimum operating levels, but like you know, that's 725 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: a guidance. I think they would just keep draining it, honestly, 726 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: because what are they going to do. They're going to 727 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: keep to buy oil at four dollars a gallon to refill. 728 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: It would be a disaster. I mean, there'd be billions 729 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: and billion, hundreds of billions of dollars is but basically 730 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: what it would cost it would be insane, and he would. 731 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: And it would cost gas prices to go up, of course, 732 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 3: because obviously you're adding you're adding gemantic customer to the Yeah, Tomandpool, 733 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, I'm no expert on. 734 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: The Strategic Patrolling Reserve, but what I've been reading is 735 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: that when you get down to it, there's a theory 736 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 2: of what the minimum operating as is. But yeah, it's 737 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 2: not like it's really been tested. But you start to 738 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: have some of the you know, the stuff you're getting 739 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: at the bottom, kind of like the dregs. It's mixed 740 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: in with other things. The salt caverns that it's stored in. 741 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 2: If you don't have sufficient pressure, they can start to collapse. 742 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: So it becomes a real question mark the closer you 743 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: get to that minimum operating level, because it could be 744 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: that you could draw down even. 745 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: Further than that. 746 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 2: It could be that they're wrong and you actually can't 747 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: draw down even that much without causing the NATO. 748 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: What scares for getting down to that, Well, scares me 749 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: the most is not it run, It's something else? Is that. 750 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: That's that's why it exists. That's why you don't drain it, 751 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: Like is it because you just don't know? Like full blown? 752 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. Look at Russia. Russia stopped exporting 753 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: diesel all of a sudden. It's like, oh now we 754 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: got diesel prices that are going to go up. So 755 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine hits one wrong thing and boom, you know, a 756 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff goes offline. China time one those that's 757 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: the predictables to North Korea, like who, no one has 758 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: any idea where like wherever the rest of the oil. 759 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: It's what if China's spr is now very low they've 760 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: been you know, using all their own supply. Tomorrow they're like, okay, 761 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: we have to buy again. I mean, all of a sudden, 762 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, you go buy fifty a gallon or something. 763 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 2: Saudi striking in Yemen with the hooties say, you know what, 764 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: we're going to close the Babo man dab straight. 765 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: And anything can happen. It could come from anywhere around 766 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, and it could even be a 767 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: natural disaster, right like some pipeline or somewhere there's an 768 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: earthquake and it takes a hit like this is why 769 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: the thing exists in the first place. And that is 770 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: when you should panic, because then you've got no slack 771 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,959 Speaker 1: and you're looking at seven eight dollars. 772 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: We're here, we're in hurricane season, all of those refineries 773 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: on the Gulf coast, all of that is and this 774 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: is the thing with Trump that we've talked about many 775 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: times before, is all of these problems are of his 776 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 2: own making. He has been actually tremendously lucky in terms 777 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: of not having a lot of like major outside forces 778 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: that have created crises. All the crises are just things 779 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: that he decided himself to do. 780 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: And all we know from history is something is going 781 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: to happen like Katrina happened. It just happened, right, and 782 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: then it becomes about your management Ukraine, it happened to Biden, 783 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: Covid happened to Trump like you have no you have 784 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: no control. And so when you create a crisis of 785 00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: your own making and then an external crisis hit, that's 786 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: where if you look at the history books and things, 787 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: that's when things start to get into collapse territory and 788 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: then it becomes point fingers, whose problem is this? Already 789 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: Trump is already a very low approval ratings, and that's 790 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: when you have to start doing crazy shit like export 791 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: bands and you know, all kinds of absolute you know, 792 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: government takeovers of the entire industry. And if you start, 793 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: when you start to get to that, you wreck the 794 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: market for all time in the future, and it becomes 795 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous. This is literally why we have the SPR 796 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: in the first place, is to make sure we don't 797 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: have some crazy Middle Eastern shock that ends up what 798 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: was it like alternative license plate? Oh, if your number 799 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: ends an odd, you can fill up today. This is 800 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: a nightmare. That's why so many people were so upset 801 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: by it. There you go, all right, let's get to 802 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham. Okay, turning now to Senator Lindsey Graham. Let's 803 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: go ahead and start with this. Put it up here 804 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: on the screen, his office announced early on Sunday morning. 805 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: A statement from the office of Senator Graham on the 806 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: evening of Saturday, July elevens or Lindsay Graham passed away 807 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: from a brief in a sudden illness. Senator Graham's family 808 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: appreciates prayers at this time as for privacy during this 809 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: incredibly difficult period. A follow up from Senator Graham's office 810 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: indicates that he died from an aortic dissection after struggling 811 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: with a cardiovascular disease. So he was seventy one years 812 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: old and suffered a massive heart attack, which my medical 813 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: friends tell me is, you know, it's not unsurvivable, but 814 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult to survive. 815 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: So obviously what I saw is if you aren't in 816 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: a hospital, very unlikely you're going to make it. 817 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: Exactly. It's obviously, you know, bad situation, indicative aging, diet, etcetera. 818 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: Should do some you know, your own research. You know, 819 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: just in terms of seventy one years old, it seems young, 820 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: but if you don't take care of yourself, this is 821 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: the type of things that can happen. But bigger picture, 822 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: obviously what has done is kind of thrown a wrench 823 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: into domestic and international politics. Lindsey Graham, in my opinion, 824 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: was one of the most effective political operators in Washington. 825 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: I am purely describing this from a analytical level. I 826 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: don't really appreciate how good he was at his job, 827 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: but you do have to acknowledge that on his departure 828 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of what was his heyday, there's no 829 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: there's no denying that. And I think, you know, if 830 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: we were to look and analyze his political entrepreneurship, his opportunism, 831 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: what exactly and how he was able to move from 832 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to twenty twenty six to probably become a 833 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: genuine whisperer to Donald Trump, That in and of itself 834 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: is the story I think of his life and of 835 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: his entire legacy really, which ultimately I mean Senator Graham 836 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: was probably the most authentic Neocon in Washington. A lot 837 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: of people are showing he wasn't rich, He didn't really 838 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of money. He was one of the 839 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: poorest members of the United States Senate. He did it 840 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: for the love of the game, and I mean I 841 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: guess there's some respect in that. But what you can 842 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: see from his political career cheering on the Iraq War 843 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: John McCain is he never wavered on what he wanted. 844 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: But what he did is he would utilize the political system, 845 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: the wins, whatever happened to be convenient within the GOP. 846 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 1: Very often he would back them up on a few 847 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: domestic things to give himself some credibility, not credibility, but 848 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: some space maneuver here. On foreign policy, he never wavered 849 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: on his foreign policy views. He did a bear Hag 850 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: strategy with Donald Trump, and ultimately he won. He is 851 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: the person who moved Donald Trump to where he wanted 852 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: to be, which is remarkable considering where things actually started. 853 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: Here's where they were. Lindsey Graham twenty sixteen or twenty fifteen, 854 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, talking about Donald Trump. Let's take a listen. 855 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: What is your reaction to hearing what Donald Trump says? 856 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: And disgusted? 857 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 10: He's a jackass, he's becoming a jackass, and he shouldn't 858 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 10: be commander in chief. We think that he's unfit for office, 859 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 10: that he would be a terrible commander in chief. He 860 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,240 Speaker 10: doesn't have the temperament or judgment. 861 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: What I think he's doing is being a demagogue. Here's 862 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: what I think. 863 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 10: I think Donald Trump as a political car wreck, and 864 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 10: people slow down and look at the wreck, but they 865 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 10: eventually move on. At the end of the day, he 866 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 10: would be the most flawed nominee in the history of 867 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 10: the Republican Party. I think he's a wrecking ball for 868 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 10: the future of the Republican Party. 869 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: I think he's a kook. So that's twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. 870 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: In fact, e let's put C three up here, his 871 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: infamous tweet, if we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed 872 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 1: and we will deserve it. That was May third, twenty sixteen. Eventually, 873 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: he of course becomes not only one of Trump's biggest defenders, 874 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: but one of his greatest allies in the United States Senate. 875 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: And my friend Sara Mamari, let's put this up here 876 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: on the screen he wrote, and I summarized some of 877 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: this already. The triumph of Lindsay Graham. What he talks about, 878 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: as popular should learn from the late centaer is his 879 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: extraordinary political ability. Again, is he never compromised on Iran, 880 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: on Iraq, on Ukraine, on anything that was near and 881 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: dear to his neo conservative heart. But what he did 882 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: is within the system, is that he would grab Donald Trump. 883 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: He would wrap himself in the veneer of it. He would, 884 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: let's say, like things like the Save America Act. Lindsay 885 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: knew it was never going to pass and he didn't care. 886 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: But what he decided to do is become one of 887 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: the chief proponents for the bill in Congress because he 888 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: knew it would give him credibility with Trump. He was 889 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: a major Cavanaugh defender. For example, he would defend Donald Trump, 890 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: let's say, on impeachment or various other things. So he 891 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: would back Trump on Trump on domestic political things which 892 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: he didn't particularly care about. He would never compromise though, 893 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: on immigration or on a few of these other things 894 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: which were very near and dear to his heart. And 895 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: then at the same time he would constantly use his 896 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: rhetoric and his closeness with Trump number one to get 897 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: Trump to endorse him. But number two is he's always 898 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: whispering in his ear. He was like an evil genius. 899 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: Is he would say things. Apparently his most common line 900 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: to Trump was, well that's something Obama would do, mister president, 901 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: whatever came to it, run or you know on Russia. 902 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: He was always using that ability to channel to Trump. 903 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: And you know, he didn't have a family. This is 904 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: literally all he actually cared about is he was always 905 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: golf with Trump. He's only mar Lago. He's always calling 906 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: him on the phone late at night. It seems actually 907 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: that Trump is the very last person who we spoke 908 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: to before he died, and in which he was advocating 909 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: for more war with Iran. Yeah, which is kind of incredible. 910 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: So that is ultimately I mean, you know, again, it's 911 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: not an endorsement whatsoever. It's just that there's no there's 912 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: no even thinking about Lindsay Graham without acknowledging he died 913 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: at the peak of his powers, which is a remarkable 914 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: story for a person like Trump who ran against Lindsey Graham, 915 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: who didn't want allegedly his own vice president. Others were 916 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: his biggest opponents, supposedly in the United States Senate. But 917 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: this was Lindsay's time. 918 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: At the peak of his power, but also at a 919 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 2: time when he got what he wanted with the Iran 920 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 2: war and also got to see what a disaster that 921 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 2: policy was. Because you're right, I think he was ideologically 922 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: committed neo con I saw a Twitter joke that was like, 923 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, somebody in Masada right now the leading two 924 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: terabytes of compromont that they have. Maybe they had it, 925 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: but no, he was in it for he was committed. 926 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: And you see all of everyone from Netna down to 927 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: Ben Gevie lamenting the loss of this great friend to Israel, 928 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 2: which I think is absolutely true. 929 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 3: You know, this is a man. 930 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 2: Who supported and pushed for the Iraq war, saw what 931 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 2: a disaster that was. I still don't think that he 932 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 2: would say it was the wrong thing to do. He 933 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 2: never never learned from how many how much of a 934 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: disaster the foreign policy that he loved and that he 935 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: advocated for, how consistently disastrous it was for the world, 936 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 2: first and foremost for the countries that we were attacking, 937 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 2: but also for the US. And that has never been 938 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: more abundantly clear than right now, where we got our 939 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 2: ass kicked by a middle rate power that we'd had 940 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 2: sanctioned for decades, who now is a regional hedgemon thanks 941 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 2: to the very policy that Lindsey Graham pushed, hoping to 942 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: project American and power and have more say over the 943 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 2: Middle East. 944 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 3: So, in spite of. 945 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: All of the facts, and all of the pain and 946 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 2: all of the destruction. He never took that in. He 947 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: never adjusted one iota to the reality. And so there's 948 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: a kind of an incredible Fox clip coming around, which 949 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 2: is there going around which they're talking about Lindsey Graham 950 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: and his legacy blah blah blah, and they have to 951 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: interrupt that to announce new bombings. 952 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: Of Irun Noah could not. 953 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 2: Be more appropriate for who this man was, what his 954 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 2: ideological project was, and how even by his own conception 955 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 2: of like pursuing American exceptionalist and power in the world, 956 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: it was an utter and complete disaster. Let's put C 957 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 2: six up on the screen because it has some pretty 958 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: remarkable quotes here about the you know, the final hours 959 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: for Lindsay Graham. It says a person who spoke with 960 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: Graham shortly afterwards said the Center, complaining he was feeling unwell. 961 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 2: This is after he had just gotten back from this 962 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: trip to you where he was touring a drone factory. 963 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: I think the last photo of him alive of of 964 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: him in Ukraine holding this drone. When the person urged 965 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,320 Speaker 2: him to seek medical attention, immediately said he would do 966 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 2: it after his Sunday morning appearance on NBC's Meet the Press. 967 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 2: He then joked, I can't die now. I still need 968 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 2: to do the Russia sanctions, get Iron sorted out, and 969 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: do Israeli Saudi normalization. And so we focused a lot, 970 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 2: obviously with Graham pushing for the Iran war and being 971 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: able to be, you know, part of this successful propaganda 972 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: effort to push Trump in that direction. All of the 973 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 2: ways that he you know, endeared himself to Trump and 974 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,959 Speaker 2: going on golf trips with him and backing. 975 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: Him up at key moments, etc. Paying off. 976 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: But we don't talk enough too about how probably influentially 977 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: he's been on the Ukraine policy as well, where Trump 978 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,920 Speaker 2: during the campaign very skeptical, really wanting to cut some 979 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 2: sort of deal and get out of this thing. Well, 980 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 2: we're not out of this thing, you know, continues in 981 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: the direction that Lindsey Graham would want it to go. 982 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: With Trump even acknowledged that on CNN Live reacting. Let's 983 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 1: take a listen c five. 984 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 6: Well, we disagreed a little bit, but overall, you know, 985 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 6: I'm a big Israel person. He was certainly that I 986 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 6: wanted to see the war with Ukraine, and very quickly 987 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 6: I think he was more into you know, keeping it going. Frankly, 988 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 6: he was very very miliant having to do with that. 989 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 6: But I was from the standpoint of twenty five thousand 990 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 6: people dying every month. I didn't like that, and he 991 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 6: was very much He was a very strong military person, 992 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 6: so am I. But I think we used it a 993 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 6: little bit differently. We probably had a little bit of 994 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 6: a different attitude, but we got along on it. Essentially 995 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 6: we agreed, and essentially we agreed in almost everything. 996 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: And to the point about Graham's influence, guess what, Trump 997 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: greenlit those Ukrainian deep strikes into Russia. That's why Lindsay 998 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: was over there. That was literally his dying thing. His 999 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: last thing that he did was go to Ukraine to 1000 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: assure them that he was going to convince Trump to 1001 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: allow more deep strikes into Russia. You can support that, 1002 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: not support that. You cannot say at the very least 1003 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,320 Speaker 1: that he wasn't incredibly influential in terms of the policy 1004 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: which Trump originally said. And to your point, I mean, yeah, 1005 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: I always find it hard. You know, when somebody dies, 1006 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: especially you don't like someone, It's like, okay, how do 1007 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: you handle this? You're not wrong, But the story of Washington. 1008 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: For my lifetime has been that the neo cons led 1009 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: the United States into the most disastrous war in American history, 1010 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: only to then have a rising tide an election of 1011 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: a candidate and a president who said explicitly that war 1012 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: was a disaster, who somehow then topped that by launching 1013 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: the United States into a war which is also as disastrous, 1014 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: potentially even more so strategically than the current war that 1015 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: we're in right now. How did that happen? He is 1016 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: a central character ultimately to that story. Yeah, I mean, 1017 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: it's like my entire feed after he died, Zelenski, bb Ben, givey, 1018 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 1: I think we have some that C nine. Let's put 1019 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: the up him. He got you know, Ben Gavier, you 1020 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: got Zelenski, you got a pack, you got you know, 1021 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: all of these, in my opinion, odious characters in American 1022 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: politics and American influence. And meanwhile, it's like every European 1023 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: leader that ever lived is like, wow, you know, the 1024 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: chairman of Germany or whatever. It's like, Oh, we're gonna 1025 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: miss Lindsay. I'm like, anybody from South Carolina, I'm gonna 1026 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: miss this guy. I'm like, it's pretty obvious where his 1027 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: entire interests and focus was. I don't think he particularly 1028 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: cared about his own state. I really genuinely think he 1029 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: saw his legacy as protecting whatever he saw as you know, 1030 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: as Europe or Israel or you know whatever, all these places, 1031 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: like deeply committed to this worldview, which despite Libya, despite 1032 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: a Rock, despite Syria, despite any of these places, his 1033 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: always his excuse was we didn't go far enough. That's 1034 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: what it always came down to with him. And I 1035 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: mean he got what he wanted, as you said, just 1036 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 1: like we did after Iraq. If anything, his real project 1037 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: today was continuing to push us even more so to 1038 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: where we are. And you know, you could say, oh, 1039 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: his death is a major blow to the neo conservatives. 1040 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: I just agree. Actually, I think he will be used 1041 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: as a martyr. In this current moment. Trump is processing 1042 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: his death, you know, I think in the most Trumpian way. 1043 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: Don't we have that thought of him going after him 1044 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: a little bit? Yeah, let's take a listen to C 1045 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 1: fifteen of Donald Trump kind of trashing him a little bit. 1046 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: Actually this morning on Fox and Friends. 1047 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 9: He was totally against me. I mean, he was fighting me, 1048 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 9: he said. He used me as the example because I 1049 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,919 Speaker 9: was leading in the polls by a lot, and he said, 1050 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 9: I'll get you in South Carolina. I'm going to get 1051 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 9: you to South Carolina. That didn't work out too well. 1052 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 9: I joke about it and it was like it was amazing. Actually, well, 1053 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 9: the whole thing was amazing. Hey, the whole career was amazing. 1054 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 9: But Lindsay was a big part of it. Because once 1055 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 9: that ended, he'd left the Raise, and once that ended, 1056 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 9: I became really good friends with him. 1057 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: Right, So, once that ended, I became very good friends 1058 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: with him. But again to just talk here about Trump 1059 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: about Lindsey. You know, Trump became the Lindsay Graham president 1060 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. He really did. And I 1061 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: mean it's their most remarkable political story I think in 1062 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: maybe not ever, but in modern history for sure, in 1063 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: terms of how you get elected and then what you 1064 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,000 Speaker 1: end up doing. And actually Trump gave us a very 1065 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: good preview. Do we have that image of Donald Trump 1066 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,879 Speaker 1: that he posted on Trump True Social this morning where 1067 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: he said, so sad President DJT. Here is Lindsay Graham, 1068 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: either at Bedminster or at mar Lago, who is in 1069 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 1: a polo shirt, wearing a Make Iran Great Again hat 1070 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: and with a piece of cardboard that seems to be 1071 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 1: from Wikipedia where it shows Trump and it says acting 1072 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: President of Venezuela that he obviously like think about the 1073 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: mechanics here. He had to get a custom make Iran 1074 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: great Again hat. He had to either go or to staff, 1075 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: had to go to Kinko's and create this mohotoshop image. 1076 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: And all of this is playing at some sort of 1077 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: luncheon or whatever he's doing here at Marlago. This is 1078 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: an insight into how he was able to influence Donald 1079 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,399 Speaker 1: Trump and he won. He used the venice, of course, 1080 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: cheered on the Venezuela thing, cheered on make it Ron 1081 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: great again. That is how he ended up winning this 1082 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: entire presidency. 1083 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 2: I mean, Rubio is a very similar figure, another opponent 1084 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 2: of Trump, you know, aggressively, they were like challenging each 1085 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 2: other based on their manhood, size and whatever and the 1086 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,960 Speaker 2: primary and now here he is sectuary of state and 1087 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 2: got what he wanted with Venezuela, and it's very much yeah, 1088 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: I might be very likely to get what he wants 1089 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 2: with regard to Cuba. All it required was for them 1090 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 2: to abandon any other principle that they ever had in 1091 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: terms of like moral character. 1092 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 3: Integrity and suck up to this. 1093 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 2: Guy and both of them for completely odious ends that 1094 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 2: they were pursuing. You know, I want to play C eight, 1095 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 2: which just a reminder of how like it's I appreciate 1096 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 2: Soccers and Allison, I think is true of how effective 1097 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 2: he was in getting what he wanted from Trump and 1098 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: persuading Trump to pursue this hardline neo coon path. I 1099 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 2: think it's also worth, you know, judging the nature of 1100 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 2: that political project. And so Blue Georgia put together a 1101 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 2: compilation of some of the utterly disgusting and you know, 1102 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 2: sociopathic things that Lindsey Graham has said about his own 1103 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,560 Speaker 2: ideology and the ends that he was pursuing. 1104 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that. 1105 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 10: America first is to kill people who wish us ill. 1106 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 10: I feel good about the Republican Party. We're killing all 1107 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 10: the right people, and we're cutting your Texas. We've run 1108 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 10: out of bombs. We didn't run out of bombs in 1109 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 10: World War Two. You just wait to see what comes 1110 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 10: in the next two weeks. We're gonna blow the hell 1111 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 10: out of these people. We're in a religious war here. 1112 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 10: I am with Israel. Do whatever the hell you have 1113 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,760 Speaker 10: to do to defend yourself. 1114 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: Level of the place. 1115 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 10: Why is it okay for America to not to to 1116 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,399 Speaker 10: drop two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki to end 1117 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 10: their existential threat war? 1118 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: Why was it okay for us to do that? 1119 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 3: I thought it was okay to Israel do whatever you 1120 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 3: have to do. 1121 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 10: To survive as a Jewish state. 1122 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: Aron's going to have a choice in two to three weeks. 1123 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 10: You either do a deal where you get out of 1124 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 10: the business you're in, or We're going to blow your 1125 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 10: stuff up. Our friends in Israel surrounded by people that 1126 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 10: want to kill them, destroy them, a second Holocaust in 1127 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,839 Speaker 10: the making. What is the proportional response to people want 1128 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 10: to kill. 1129 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: You and your family. 1130 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,279 Speaker 10: They're running out of ammunition in Israel. We have to 1131 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 10: help our friends. I go back to South Carolina. I'm 1132 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 10: asking them to send their sons and daughters over to 1133 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 10: the Mid East to our friends in Israel. 1134 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: God bless you. 1135 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 10: I'm with you in every way. To all the anti Seminites, 1136 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 10: to all the isolationists, forget it. I'm not with you. 1137 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 10: I'm with Israel. I will be with Israel to our 1138 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 10: dying day. There's no better partner on the planet. 1139 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 1: Than Israel. God Bless is right. We should move all 1140 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: our stuff to Israel. 1141 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 3: Oh, he didn't lie. He was with Israel till his 1142 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,319 Speaker 3: dying day. 1143 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 2: In this past year, he's been back and forth to 1144 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 2: Ukraine and Israel, probably spending more time in this country 1145 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 2: than he has been in South Carolina. Wouldn't doubt that 1146 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,359 Speaker 2: contributed to the negative health outcomes. It's very hard on you, 1147 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 2: certainly at a certain age, but you know, this is 1148 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 2: this is what he was pursuing and what he's been 1149 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 2: fairly successful at pursuing, and now he gets to see 1150 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: the wreckage. Not that I think it caused him to 1151 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 2: question for a second the policy that he would he 1152 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 2: would be you know, if you live for another five years, 1153 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: he'd be the one pushing us through war with Turkey 1154 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 2: or whatever would be would be next. So I don't 1155 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,839 Speaker 2: think that it was causing him to reckon at all. 1156 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: With what a monstrous disaster this ideology has right amount. 1157 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,919 Speaker 1: And this is more of a mainstream media thing because 1158 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: like I get it, you know, one of the things 1159 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: like what's one of the what's one of the worst 1160 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: things Trump did recently? And I know this is like 1161 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: might be selective that Rob Reiner post, it was like, oh, 1162 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 1: that's horrible, right, So, like you don't want to piss 1163 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: on someone's grave immediately after they die. But there is 1164 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: like a mainstream media like hay Geography. Remember when Dick 1165 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: Cheney died and they were like, oh, Dick Chene he 1166 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 1: was a protector of democracy. I'm like democracy, Like, okay, look, 1167 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: we can just say the guy died. Let's leave it 1168 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: at that. But then whenever it comes to discussion of legacy, 1169 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,359 Speaker 1: if you're only going to highlight one thing, it's like, well, 1170 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: you got to highlight the rest too. And that's how 1171 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: I feel about Lindsay Graham. Like again, I don't want 1172 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: to disparage too much, and like I get it's distasteful, 1173 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, you take a look at that. Lindsey Graham 1174 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: reveled in death who he would define as America's enemies. 1175 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: I think it killed a lot of Americans and it 1176 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 1: killed a lot of foreigners too. So that's ideology. And 1177 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, that really was a bedrock like belief of 1178 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,320 Speaker 1: his that that was a good. Ultimately, I dramatically disagree 1179 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: with that. And there's no assessing him without There's no 1180 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: assessing him period without looking at that, and you have 1181 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,240 Speaker 1: all these Democratic senators and others who were posting selfies 1182 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: of him with him and Zelensky being like, oh, he 1183 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: was such a champion for democracy. And that's part of why, 1184 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, to assess Lindsay. He is the ultimate Washington creature. 1185 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: I met him a couple of times. Hey is the 1186 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: nicest guy. Everybody has a story about how funny he is, 1187 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: how disarming he is. I would disagree with him, you know, 1188 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: always just agree to disagree or something like that, and 1189 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: everybody he's got a story like that, But that doesn't 1190 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 1: mean that what he was saying is good, Like he 1191 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,759 Speaker 1: used those powers for bad. 1192 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 2: I think when you're talking about a powerful person, you 1193 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 2: have to be honest about their legacy and not pull punches. 1194 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,759 Speaker 2: Because it's important that we set the record. You know, 1195 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 2: this will be, you know, one of the last times 1196 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 2: we think about or talk about Lindsay Gram. It's important 1197 00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 2: to set the record of what this man's life was 1198 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 2: actually dedicated to. And you know, certainly playing him in 1199 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 2: his own words with regard to the impact on Trump, 1200 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 2: I just have to There was one clip of him 1201 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 2: almost seeming to like get choked up talking about Lindsey Graham, 1202 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 2: which is not he barely. 1203 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: Cares about his own son. 1204 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't even go to his own son's wedding. 1205 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: True, true, So I mean I think he was genuinely 1206 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 2: close to him. 1207 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 3: But also Trump is such a. 1208 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: Narcissist, which is what you can see with him posting 1209 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 2: that Lindsay Graham holding up you know, the Trump picture, 1210 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: that Trump clearly is thinking about his own mortality a lot. 1211 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 2: Lindsay is a decade younger than he is, was a 1212 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: decade younger than he is, and part of I think 1213 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 2: how he got persuaded to go to war with Iran 1214 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 2: was about what is the legacy that you're going to 1215 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 2: leave behind? And he's not going to be the one 1216 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 2: who wants to be here to deal with the fallout 1217 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: from it. So I think it probably feeds into that 1218 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 2: sense of his own mortality as natural. Anytime someone who's 1219 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,680 Speaker 2: close to you dies that you start contemplating those things 1220 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 2: more so, it wouldn't be surprised, It would not surprise 1221 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: me if it just further fuels his sense of his 1222 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: limited time and how much he wants to leave his 1223 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 2: mark on this town and on the world. 1224 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 3: I mean, they're very securely a good thing. 1225 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 1: They're both very similar in their late seventies. Obviously Lindsay 1226 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: was is not as obese, but he was like, you know, 1227 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 1: he's not like working out. Obviously, he was seventy one. 1228 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: He flew all over the world. He was totally dedicated 1229 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: to his work, didn't sleep a lot, a total creature 1230 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: of politics. Trump looks at that and he's like, wait, 1231 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,440 Speaker 1: I could be like that. Yeah, no, serious as an 1232 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: eighty nights and look at if you look at Lindsey Graham, 1233 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: you could actually see his degradation over the years in 1234 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: terms of his like his face looks more haggard. That's 1235 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: how cardiovascular disease, hard disease works. So Trump and any 1236 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: older person, Sam Neil, we were talking about that before 1237 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: the shit he died today. He's seventy eight. He's younger 1238 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: than Trump. So you know, once you start out to 1239 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: that age, a lot of people, you know, start dying, 1240 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: especially who are old, who are only obsessed with themselves, 1241 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: who are you know, totally dedicated to the work of politics. 1242 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that one of the very last 1243 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 1: things that Lindsay Graham ever said was I can't die 1244 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: now because I have to go do X Y and 1245 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 1: z and not you know, hang out with my wife 1246 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: or my children or something that's I just don't want 1247 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: to go out that way I can put it. I 1248 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 1: could put it like that. And then now what you 1249 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: also see, you know, without Trump is South Carolina. I 1250 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: believe Lindsay Graham was running for his fifth term, which 1251 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 1: is crazy, his fifth term, a long history of senators 1252 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: from South Carolina dying from old age in office, which 1253 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: that's your business, I guess. And now we have, like 1254 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: the race to replace him will just be, you know, 1255 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: the grifting race for the age. So let's put C 1256 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 1: ten up here on the screen. The disgraced gubernatorial former 1257 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,120 Speaker 1: congress candidate, former Congresswoman Nancy Mace says, just when I 1258 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,720 Speaker 1: thought I was out, they pulled me back in. Scott Bessent, 1259 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: the Treasury secretary. Let's put see eleven up here on 1260 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: the screen. Apparently as a native son of South Carolina 1261 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: who has maintained a house there during Washington, he's been 1262 01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: fielding calls they want him to run potentially even though 1263 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: he's a Treasury secretary. And so you had at one. 1264 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 3: Pointm actually did succeed strom Thurman. 1265 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I know that was Yeah, that's my refen who died 1266 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: of How old was strom is like one hundred and 1267 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: two something when he died something like that. Yeah, and 1268 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: then we found out about his black daughter after he died. 1269 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: If I'm doing my math correctly about anyway, if you 1270 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,920 Speaker 1: don't know who strom Thurman is, he was. He was 1271 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a segrege. He like did the filibuster against the segregation. Yeah. 1272 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 3: Anyways, I went to Clemson. 1273 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 2: There were buildings still like named after him because I 1274 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 2: think grandson was at school there when I was there too. Anyway, Yes, okay, 1275 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 2: I digress. 1276 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: I met someone here in Washington once, the older person. 1277 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: They're like, I came to work from the Senate. I 1278 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: was like, oh for who oh for a Southern senator. 1279 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 1: I was like, well, which one. I was like, oh okay, 1280 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 1: and then I did the math in terms of the 1281 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: year and I was like sixty one. Huh. Interesting nice 1282 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: start there, Yeah. 1283 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 6: Interesting. 1284 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: So anyways, zooming out the race to replace Lindsay Graham, 1285 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,280 Speaker 1: it will be a Titanic one. I'm gonna call it. 1286 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm calling Nikki Haley, that's my call. I think she's 1287 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna make a deal with Trump. Trump has said I 1288 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: want to, He said I have somebody in mind. Already 1289 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: she's been stucking up to him on Iran. She's going 1290 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: to have more money than humanly possible. That would be 1291 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: a natural place I think for her to end up. 1292 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: The only reason she never did it was because those 1293 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,520 Speaker 1: seats are really, really hard to get, and so I 1294 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: could see, I could. 1295 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 3: See you don't think Scott Bessant, Well. 1296 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Here's the rate and reason Lindsay just died. It's gonna 1297 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 1: be very hot. What's fifty to fifty right there in 1298 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: the Senate McConnell is God knows what is up with him. 1299 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: If you replace Scott Bessant, you got to get a confirmation. 1300 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Is a single Democrat going to vote for confirmation? This 1301 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: is part of the reason why no member of the 1302 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: South Carolina delegation is going to get it from the 1303 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: House of Representatives because they can't afford the margin. 1304 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they talked about. 1305 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 2: So what happens is the governor nominate someone and then 1306 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 2: they have a special primary election to figure out who 1307 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 2: the nominee is going to be because they've already had 1308 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 2: the primaries Instagram obviously one there's a Democrat, a woman 1309 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 2: I care remember a name right now who also one, 1310 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 2: So she will remain the Democratic nominee, and now you 1311 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 2: have to have a special primary to figure out who 1312 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 2: is going to be the Republican who will stand for 1313 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 2: election in the fall. Joe Wilson, who is the like, yeah, 1314 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: who's young sprite from Chicus seventy eight, not even close 1315 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 2: to the oldest person in the House of Representatives. Anyway, 1316 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: he was being contemplated, but then he seemed to say, hey, 1317 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 2: we shouldn't do this because we got to protect our 1318 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,240 Speaker 2: majority in the House, which is extremely slim at this point. 1319 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: This also, it does have huge repercussions for what the 1320 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 2: Senate will be able to get anything. This Trump's fantasy 1321 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 2: give the Save America Act not going to happen because 1322 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: you've got Mitch McConnell maybe alive, but certainly not in 1323 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 2: the Senate voting. I don't know we'll get to that. 1324 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Like I said in a moment, Lindsey Graham now dead. 1325 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 2: So you have no one in that seat you have, 1326 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 2: And then you've got a couple of people Tom Tillis, 1327 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Cassidy who u in uh uh uh not foon, I'm 1328 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 2: at Cornyn down in Texas. Who are you know their 1329 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 2: primary primary down care They don't care, so they can 1330 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 2: do whatever they want. Now the on the other side, 1331 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 2: you do have John Fetterman, who also does whatever he wants, 1332 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 2: so maybe you could get him for some things. But no, 1333 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 2: their their majority in the Senate is sort of de 1334 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 2: facto gone at. 1335 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 1: This it's a it's a very That's part of the 1336 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: reason why with Besson, i mean, Treasure Secretary such an 1337 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 1: important position, why would they gear up for confirmation right there? 1338 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, there was that other you remember, I think 1339 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: I was off that whole Alito resigning thing, which might 1340 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: have been happening. Yeah, it's not gonna happen now because 1341 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: you can have that confirmation battle's he's got to wait 1342 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: till the next He. 1343 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 3: Should have gone with the NPR announcement. 1344 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,040 Speaker 1: No, I'm dead serious. If he had, let well, we 1345 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:57,919 Speaker 1: wouldn't have time. 1346 01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1347 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 1: But now, I mean, now, if the Senate goes blue, 1348 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: you're going to see there are a lot of guys 1349 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: like Clarence Thomas and all those people. You better hope 1350 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: nothing happens to them. 1351 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 2: If you're they were talking about doing a reconciliation bill 1352 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 2: for the Save America Act because it only requires a 1353 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 2: majority vote. But now you don't even you can't even 1354 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 2: count on that. So I don't even if they get 1355 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: rid of the filibuster at this point that there's no 1356 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 2: guarantee that you're going to be able to cobble together 1357 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 2: a majority for literally anything, because some of these guys 1358 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 2: that Trump went against Gornyon at all would love to 1359 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 2: stick it to them and get some vengeance for being 1360 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,439 Speaker 2: for losing their political powers. 1361 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, this really does have like some serious serious implications 1362 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: here in Washington, even in terms of like funding the 1363 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: government ICE, I mean, DHS, I mean, who knows, right, 1364 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Like there's all kinds of crazy stuff that happens. McConnell 1365 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: proof of life. Maybe let's put see thirteen up here 1366 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: on the screen. Here it is. Here's a photo released yesterday. 1367 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Leave this up for a good but let's take a 1368 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 3: look at. 1369 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Let's analyze the picture. So here is Senator Mitch McConnell. 1370 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: It's very nice to see his wife by his side 1371 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: after she took from China trip to China two days 1372 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,200 Speaker 1: after he went to the hospital. I joked that it's 1373 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: like a story out of the notebook. It's the love 1374 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: affair that you like to see two elderly people separated 1375 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: by continents. You can just feel the passion. What you 1376 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 1: can see in this photo is bottom left very strategically 1377 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: places that newspaper so you can see the modern day newspaper. 1378 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:29,840 Speaker 1: So when we see Mitch, he's smiling kind of, he's 1379 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: got his glass, his eyes are open. The what is 1380 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: that the left hand? There a lot of bruising there 1381 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 1: on the left hand, usually indicative of an ivy. 1382 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 3: Very trump looking very trump. 1383 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,560 Speaker 1: And we'll all remember the photo of the Queen from 1384 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,439 Speaker 1: like the day before that she died, where she also 1385 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of the bruising there. Usually that's where 1386 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 1: they place an ivy. So obviously in a hospital bed. 1387 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: I recognize that those types of chairs from my time 1388 01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,400 Speaker 1: when my wife was giving birth. So okay, so that's 1389 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 1: where Mitch is. He's propped up there on a pillow. 1390 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,360 Speaker 1: Now let's keep in mind nothing of him talking, but 1391 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,200 Speaker 1: he disappear to be sent in semi or whatever. His 1392 01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,919 Speaker 1: eyes are open, that's what we know. And his wife 1393 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: is there by side. I mean, it's all we can 1394 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,160 Speaker 1: that's all we can assess from this photo, right, is 1395 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:13,960 Speaker 1: that he is alive. 1396 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I don't like Also, it's the age 1397 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 2: of AI and you accept us just to accept a 1398 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: photo at face value, like, oh, see. 1399 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 3: The newspaper here. I mean, it's just it's too much. 1400 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: It is too much, and then it's too much that 1401 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 1: they have to do this right. 1402 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 2: And so if you if you actually want a proof 1403 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,640 Speaker 2: of life, all these Republicans are Oh I talked to 1404 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 2: Misch McConnell for twenty minutes. He's great a problem. Okay, Well, 1405 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: then talk to someone who's not a Republican like talk 1406 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 2: to in his refer call up many Democratic friends in 1407 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 2: the Senate, you know, I mean, someone who might have 1408 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 2: a little more credibility to vouch for what's going on here. 1409 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 2: And then we get this statement from him, puts up 1410 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 2: on this screen. 1411 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 3: I'll read this. 1412 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,479 Speaker 2: It's length. I'm sorry, but let me read this whole 1413 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 2: thing just so. I don't, you know, don't paraphrase in 1414 01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 2: a way that's that doesn't fully capture all of the 1415 01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 2: sentiments expressed here to my fellow Kentuckians. And this was 1416 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 2: put out alongside that photo when you elected me to 1417 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 2: seventh term, made me our Commonwew's longest serving center. You 1418 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 2: did so trusting I keep showing up to fight for 1419 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: you every day over the past several weeks, Elaine and 1420 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,840 Speaker 2: I have appreciated both your well wishes and your honest 1421 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 2: questions about what was keeping me away from the Senate. 1422 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 2: You all know how folks of my generation often hesitate 1423 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 2: to share the vulnerability that comes with growing older, even 1424 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 2: in the public eye. I feel that same instinct. I 1425 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 2: can't help it. Keep in mind, guys, he has been 1426 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 2: gone for a month. A month we have heard nothing. 1427 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: This is all we've gotten is this one photo. 1428 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 3: In this statement. 1429 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,080 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I've had more than my 1430 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 2: share of experience with physical vulnerability. Surviving childhood polio meant 1431 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,200 Speaker 2: spending my entire life with mobility challenges. This is reminding 1432 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 2: me very much of the Joe Biden stutter discourse. They 1433 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: haven't exactly gotten easier to manage with age, and last 1434 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 2: month I took a fall which landed me in the hospital. 1435 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 2: My doctors confirmed I didn't break any bones or suffer 1436 01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 2: a concussion. I did not have a heart or a stroke. 1437 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I don't have any tumors or hamorrhages. But I was 1438 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 2: briefly unconscious and was taken to the hospital or receiving 1439 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 2: excellent care. Over the past several weeks, I've also had 1440 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,640 Speaker 2: to deal with a mild case of pneumonia. 1441 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:13,760 Speaker 3: Let me just pause there. 1442 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,680 Speaker 2: He's claiming that a fall, a mild fall that did 1443 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 2: not cause a concussion, that was not caused by a 1444 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,759 Speaker 2: heart attack or stroke, that he doesn't have any tumors 1445 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 2: or hemorrhages, but somehow left him unconscious but didn't cause 1446 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,280 Speaker 2: a concussion, is what led to him being hospitalized for 1447 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 2: a month. And by the way, they're still not releasing 1448 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 2: him and letting him go. So what exactly happened with 1449 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: this alleged fall that was so severe that all you 1450 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 2: can do is put out this photo and. 1451 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 3: Have to be in the hospital for a month. 1452 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 2: Allow me to continue, he says, I can assure you 1453 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 2: that I've been a good patient and my age. 1454 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 3: I tend to do what my doctors told me to do. 1455 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,560 Speaker 2: I've submitted to every test they can think of to 1456 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: help figure out what caused this incident. I'm continuing to 1457 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,320 Speaker 2: do everything that asked to speed my recovery. In fact, 1458 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: with signs of continued progress, I've been able to move 1459 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,559 Speaker 2: from hospital care to a rehabilitation center where I'll keep 1460 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: regaining my strength. As much as it frustrates me, this 1461 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 2: process takes time, and on the advice of my doctors, 1462 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 2: I will not be able to return to the Senate 1463 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,519 Speaker 2: floor to vote quite yet. 1464 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 3: Rest assured. 1465 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 2: In the meantime, I'm not taking a break from the 1466 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 2: Senate business that matters to you. I've been working closely 1467 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,639 Speaker 2: with my legislative staff on current issues, with my Kentucky team, 1468 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 2: who helped me provide timely constituent services across our commonwealth. 1469 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:24,799 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 1470 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: Your right to expect your representatives to work hard for you, 1471 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. I'll keep working hard to get 1472 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 2: back on the Senate floor as soon as possible. Keep 1473 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 2: you posted on the progress of my recovery. N til then, 1474 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 2: So grateful for your prayers and well wishes. This still 1475 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 2: makes absolutely no sense, Occer. So if you no concussion 1476 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 2: and no stroke, no problem, everything's good. Why are you 1477 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 2: still in the hospital. Yes, Why don't we have a video? 1478 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,679 Speaker 2: Why can't you talk to reporters? Like, what is going 1479 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 2: on here? Why do we just get this one photo well, 1480 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 2: which the newspaper. 1481 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 1: What is also weird is remember the EMS call had 1482 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,040 Speaker 1: set cardiac arrest. That's part of the reason a lot 1483 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 1: of people are like oh my god, it might be dead. 1484 01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,320 Speaker 1: Because Ryan had looked up the status like if you 1485 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: have cardiac arrest and again CPR and they're coming to 1486 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 1: get you. You're eighty four years old at your home, 1487 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: you have like a two percent survival rate. So this 1488 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it does make a little bit more sense now that 1489 01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: he didn't suffer a heart attack, at least according to him, 1490 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 1: he suffered a fall. Now that said fall is one 1491 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: of the leading causes of death for people who are 1492 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: his age, so it's not uncommon a lot of hip breaking. 1493 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: It leads to rapid deterioration. But he's pairing it here 1494 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: with the mild pneumonia. I mean, I feel insane even 1495 01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: talking about this. You're eighty four years old. This is bonkers. Like, 1496 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 1: you're eighty four, you're falling. You've had multiple incidents where 1497 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: you can't speak on cameraide he literally freeze up completely. 1498 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 1: You're spending weeks in the if you have to spend 1499 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: weeks in the hospital, weeks in the hospital because of 1500 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,440 Speaker 1: your old age, How can you be a public servant? 1501 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 1: How could you run again? You know? And he say, oh, 1502 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: I retired, Why didn't Sorry, I'm retiring at the end 1503 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 1: of chance leave now like you can't, you're not doing 1504 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: your job. Allegedly, you're talking your staff. You've been multiple 1505 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 1: weeks here in the hospital. I mean, it's just did 1506 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: you hear end up hearing by the remember that missing 1507 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,679 Speaker 1: congressman we found out what happened? Oh yeah, he had depression. 1508 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:08,679 Speaker 2: Depression yeah mm hmm and again month, you know, yeah, months. 1509 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 2: And by the way, he is not telling the truth either, 1510 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 2: because you're not hospitalized for months with depression without something very. 1511 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,080 Speaker 1: Severe, maybe had a schizophrenic break line, which in either case, 1512 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You got to go, dude. You can't be 1513 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: taken three and a half months off work. 1514 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 2: You are usually kept if you are hospitalized with mental 1515 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 2: illness for months at a time, it means you are 1516 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:32,360 Speaker 2: risk to yourself or others. Right, So yeah, I mean 1517 01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 2: we're definitely not getting the straight story there, and we're 1518 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:34,800 Speaker 2: definitely not. 1519 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:35,840 Speaker 3: Getting the straight story here. 1520 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 2: And the reason why people were and still are very 1521 01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 2: much speculating that he, you know, maybe not there at 1522 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 2: all at this point, is that they would want to 1523 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 2: drag out the process past I think it's August third, 1524 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 2: because if he's you know, out of the Senate or 1525 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,640 Speaker 2: dead before August third, then they have to call a 1526 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 2: special election. Oh and then Tom's Massy might run and 1527 01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 2: that could cause some problems for them because if he 1528 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: runs as a Republican, he could win the nomination and 1529 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 2: then that's another senator that Trump can't control. Or if 1530 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 2: he runs as an independent, then he could serve as 1531 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 2: a spoiler. So that was the reason why there would 1532 01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 2: be some motivation to cover up the reality of what 1533 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,519 Speaker 2: is going on here. But look, I mean, it's yeah, 1534 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 2: we're being lied to. It's in your face. They're not 1535 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,120 Speaker 2: giving the whole story. What he's saying doesn't make sense. 1536 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 2: And I don't think anyone should be convinced of anything 1537 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,679 Speaker 2: from this photo that they're putting, the single singular photo 1538 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: that they are putting out at this point, the. 1539 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Fact that they have to put the photo out in 1540 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: and of itself. We're in crazy town, you know when 1541 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: you're I'm eighty four. I just fell. Don't worry about it. 1542 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,719 Speaker 1: I'm totally fine. But I've spent here weeks in the hospital. 1543 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,360 Speaker 2: I need to spend an unspecified amount of time more 1544 01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,360 Speaker 2: in the hospital, but more how cleared too? And this 1545 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 2: was something did you see Lauren Bobert reacting to that? 1546 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 3: Tom Keane guy. 1547 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,600 Speaker 1: She was kissed. She was like, oh, she was disgusted. 1548 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 2: She was absolutely discussed, and she was like, you had 1549 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 2: to be out for months because you're a little sad. 1550 01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 1: She went. 1551 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 2: But she made a point and she was like, this 1552 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 2: job is not that hard, Like we can roll you 1553 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:04,679 Speaker 2: in the back. 1554 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,640 Speaker 3: Doors over vote. 1555 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,759 Speaker 2: And you leave right. You can make it a lot, 1556 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 2: you can do a lot more with it. But if 1557 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 2: you're just doing the bare minimum, it takes you like 1558 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 2: ten minutes a day, it's really not that big a deal. 1559 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:21,320 Speaker 2: You can't do that. You can't do that. That tells 1560 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,679 Speaker 2: you how dire the situation is. That you can't even 1561 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 2: roll his wheelchair in the back door to cast a 1562 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 2: vote and roll. 1563 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 3: Him back out. He is not in a condition even 1564 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 3: to do that. 1565 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember reading some book where they used to 1566 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,400 Speaker 1: do that. There was some senator who was basically on 1567 01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,880 Speaker 1: his deathbed and they forced him to come vote, and 1568 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,639 Speaker 1: they never he never forgave the whipper snapper who forced 1569 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 1: him to come vote, like from his deathbed. Yeah, where 1570 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,280 Speaker 1: they had to, but literally they wheeled him in from 1571 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 1: his hospital bed or from his hotel room or something 1572 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: where he was hold up. He voted and then he 1573 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: went back. But that and that's apparently the norm. 1574 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 2: Remember Feinstein like voted and then hours later died, didn't 1575 01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:58,240 Speaker 2: she crazy? 1576 01:13:58,320 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1577 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? And what did Amy Klovich was like just fot, yes, okay, 1578 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I can't live like this. 1579 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 10: H