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Speaker 2: The John Anick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annack and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 1: Job the Yctufian Prefers hound up.

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 4: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's a.

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Speaker 2: Come on, been a while, Been a while. Eight days

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Speaker 2: is too many. Eight days is too many, and the

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Speaker 2: new music does take some getting used to. I'm expectant

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Speaker 2: that Boston Garden rap is gonna play and it doesn't. Oh,

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Speaker 2: but it is so good. Yes, we stole that song

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Speaker 2: from Anik Versus Anarchty now defunct NFL podcast featuring me

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Speaker 2: and my twin brother.

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Speaker 5: Only so much.

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Speaker 2: You can hear your own voice, and when it's your

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Speaker 2: own voice coming back at you, maybe time for a

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Speaker 2: new show. I love you, Jay. Great to be with everybody. Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: February third. It is twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: We are Live.

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Speaker 2: It's episode five eighty one of the Anticanploring podcast powered

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Speaker 2: by All the Smoke Fight Back in the United States

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Speaker 2: of America. Wheels Down, Emoji USA, Emoji flag always feels good, Kenny,

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Speaker 2: it was a jaunt, man. It's nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you survived, my man, and look at you

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots jersey.

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Speaker 5: Big week, dude, let's go.

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Speaker 2: It is Super Bowl week. I was just gonna wear

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Speaker 2: the jersey and not talk. And my kids are invested now,

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Speaker 2: and they understand the betting line a little bit, and

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Speaker 2: they understand that the Patriots, at least on paper, are

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Speaker 2: expected to lose. They're not gonna lose, but they're expected

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Speaker 2: to lose. If you're listen to Attleborough, Massachusetts, they're not

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Speaker 2: gonna lose. We have a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 2: Excuse my voice, what a plane's trains and automobile situation?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Gratitude right is the buzzword right in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: of course, and in any year we're supposed to lean

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Speaker 2: into that. But the road is not glamorous of that,

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Speaker 2: I can assure you folks. Coming up today, we will

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Speaker 2: have a Ray Longo minute here. If he answers the

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Speaker 2: bill in fifty eight minutes, I don't know what he's

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Speaker 2: doing so late that he can't get his eight hours

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Speaker 2: and be up at a normal time. You know, the

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Speaker 2: new time zone for the antikin Floring podcast is going

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Speaker 2: to be noon Eastern nine am Pacific on a Monday,

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Speaker 2: and it was almost like raised choice, right, if I

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Speaker 2: can peel back the fucking curtain for you for a second.

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Speaker 2: And Kenny knows this. We were gonna go ten A

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Speaker 2: or noon, and it's like, let's ask Ray right, because

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Speaker 2: we revolved the whole show around Ray Longo, the star

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Speaker 2: of the Anak and Florian podcast, so he won't hear this,

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Speaker 2: but we will be at noon here too, four on

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Speaker 2: Dan Tom. He has a keen eye for this stuff

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Speaker 2: and there's just a lot to unpack when it comes

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Speaker 2: to the UFC three twenty five main event. In my

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Speaker 2: so I'm excited to get at all these things with

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Speaker 2: get into Locke Dog, Vensius Olavera and Mario Bautista. I

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Speaker 2: I know, I get hyperbolic and say, you know, Umar

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Speaker 2: really excited for the main event. Last week's show was crazy,

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Speaker 2: very grateful for this entire team. We had six guests

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Speaker 2: or handicapper over the last several years, who contributed a

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Speaker 2: lot of great things to this show. We appreciate him.

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Speaker 2: He brought a lot to the table. I know our

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Speaker 2: listeners miss him. Hopefully we will continue to follow his content.

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Speaker 6: I have been very urgent and important breaking.

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Speaker 7: New headlines and Kenny sans contest.

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Speaker 2: So when we do headlines after a pay per view

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Speaker 2: or in this case, numbered event in Australia, I always

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Speaker 2: lead with the fans, right and Kenny, you've experienced this

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Speaker 2: what is ubiquitously regard as the greatest heavyweight fight in

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons why we and Brisbane anymore. But

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Speaker 2: as usual. These people are just nuts for this.

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Speaker 1: The Australian fans are some of the best in the world,

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Speaker 5: So I imagine twenty twenty six, it must have been nuts.

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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 2: So, I was waiting for my car to go to

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Speaker 2: I had a ten year old come up to me

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Speaker 2: like his parents own a bakery. Right. I got kids

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Speaker 2: dropping my commentary lines to me on the street.

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Speaker 2: I did have another boy fourteen or so come up

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Speaker 2: to me and say, both of these fighters have custody

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Speaker 2: a lot. It was amazing. So and I promise you

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Speaker 2: I had an appearance at a pre fight dinner the

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Speaker 2: Is not the thesis statement for Diego Lopez Alexander Volkanovsky

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Speaker 5: This was yet another dominant performance from the champion.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I actually thought Diego got off to

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone talks about you know, you know, cutting

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Speaker 1: I think that was the issue right there. It takes sophistication,

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Speaker 1: As talented as Diego Lopez is, it's still gonna take

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Speaker 2: Is time all it's gonna take, right, I mean, sometimes

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Speaker 2: and Iridium, and but I just thought this was not

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Speaker 2: great man, And I didn't think the first fight was great.

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Speaker 2: You know, if I could go to the scorecar the

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Speaker 2: first fight, right, at least one judge saw every five minutes,

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Speaker 2: saw every five minute sequence, for Vulcan, right, there wasn't

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Speaker 2: in this case you had a fifty to forty five. Right.

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Speaker 2: So therein lies on argument, not mine necessarily that Vulk

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Speaker 2: that Vulk won all ten rounds of this two fights.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't want to hear it from me,

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Speaker 2: just go look at the scorecards. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: like judges, well they put in a lot of time

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Speaker 2: and they're pretty good overall, all things considered. So what

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Speaker 2: that guys like Luke Thomas and others suggests that, you know,

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Speaker 2: this fight maybe competitively should not have happened right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think we talked about this on

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Speaker 5: A superpower in mixed martial arts, the.

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Speaker 1: Ability to have multiple tools in your tool belt and

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Speaker 1: And Volkanovsky is that guy who can be adaptable not

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Speaker 5: That is very interesting? You know, I think why is that?

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing some kind of decline in volkanovski skills.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, you know, that shot that he took against Lopez

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think you get to this

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Speaker 2: The trite phraseology is what hindsight is twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 2: But Mavsar fucking Evloyev man, you know, and I can't

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Speaker 2: Thanks everybody joining us Live Ana Cam Floyent podcast, Power

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Speaker 2: by All The Smoke Fight. Top five UFC Moment for

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Speaker 2: me ken flow. This particular Alexander Volkanovski walk out in Sydney.

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Speaker 2: He hadn't fought there since twenty seventeen. Everybody sang every

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Speaker 5: No, No, I think I think it was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Volkanovsky enjoyed the hell out of

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Speaker 2: When you look at Vulcan on the stool, they're trying

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Speaker 2: I have so much respect for Alexander Volkanovsky. I did

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Speaker 2: think it was interesting to see that he's a sweater

434
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Speaker 2: in terms of he's like a profuse sweater. I don't

435
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Speaker 2: know if you saw that the fight Dietitian. My friend

436
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 2: Jordan's on Instagram, right, but yeah, I mean I feel

437
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 2: like now I really feel like I could make flyweight

438
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: because I sweat, you know, in the snow.

439
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 5: So that's good. You need that if you need to

440
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Speaker 5: cut weight.

441
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Dude, I didn't really have that, so yeah, it takes

442
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Speaker 1: me a lot to get sweat.

443
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Speaker 2: So Alexander Volkanovsky first Australian born UFC champion Robert Whitaker

444
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Speaker 2: I think born in Middlemore, New Zealand, but moved to

445
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Speaker 2: Australia when he was very young. But this Alexander Volkanovsky

446
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 2: Kenny as a sportsman and if you don't know if

447
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 2: you are perhaps part of our newer audience. This man

448
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: gave up a career as a rugby league player. He

449
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 2: was a warilla guerrilla. He weighed two hundred and fourteen pounds.

450
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: What a fucking monster, right God named fire hydrant built

451
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: like a backyard shed. So he gave that up to

452
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 2: pursue this. And now he has a ton of money,

453
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: a farm, an empire that he is building, cooking with

454
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: vulcan and all the different cornerstones. And he is essentially Kenny,

455
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: Australia's foremost sportsman at this point in time. They couldn't

456
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 2: have a better ambassador for sport than him. I mean,

457
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: he's he's he's a true, true king. Like we talked

458
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: about Jose Alto was the king of Rio, a city

459
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: and Jose certainly extends to the country. But bro, this

460
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: is this guy's number one in the nation that lives

461
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Speaker 2: for this stuff.

462
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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, he's a likable guy.

463
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Speaker 1: And to see again that level of consistency in the

464
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Speaker 1: UFC is extremely rare. And this isn't a country like

465
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Speaker 1: the United States, which which has you know, all these

466
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Speaker 1: massive gyms all over the place and all the big

467
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: cities where you know, Mma has been around for a

468
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: lot longer and all that stuff, like, you know, the

469
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Speaker 1: fact that Volkanovski was able to be this big star

470
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Speaker 1: and have this much success in a country lock like

471
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Speaker 1: Australia is just awesome to see. And he's got the charisma,

472
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: he's got the personality, and he hasn't done it by

473
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: being you know, this guy who has talk trash. He's

474
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: done it the right way and authentically and it's great

475
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Speaker 1: to see people like that succeed.

476
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Speaker 2: Then all right, so Ken flow, do you have any pets?

477
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: I do?

478
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 2: Can you tell the audience please? I have a.

479
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 5: Dog named Simba. He is a pitbull. He's a goofy

480
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 5: dog and uh yeah, just a dog man. Just one.

481
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Speaker 2: Okay, So no hamsters or now, so my daughter Tatum

482
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: has a hamster. I think it is. They live I

483
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: think eighteen to thirty months on average.

484
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Speaker 5: Right, Oh wow, that's short.

485
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Speaker 2: All right, So Kenny, to save my daughters hamster. Okay,

486
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: if you had to send one featherweight, we populated the

487
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: rankings for you. If you had to send one featherweight

488
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: in there to beat Alexander Volkanovski, Is it as simple

489
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Speaker 2: as momsar Ivloyev. I mean, Jean Lord Silva has a

490
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 2: lot of skills. I do think somebody might send him

491
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: in there. Yeahyi Rodriguez, his fought vulcan Al. Jamaine Sterling,

492
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Speaker 2: I think is an interesting name that I think a

493
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: lot of people might. I mean, that's a fascinating fight

494
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: for me. I know there are a lot of haters

495
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: in this mixed martial arts space, but you booked that

496
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 2: fight right now, and I would have no problem with that.

497
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: With respect to Movsar, Movsar I and that's not a

498
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: long goo bias at all. That's really just that he's

499
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Speaker 2: a former champion and he has has realized success in

500
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Speaker 2: this second division. Kenny am stalling for you, Movsar Ivloyev.

501
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: Laron Murphy, I know you're not sending Diego Lopez in there,

502
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: because the Hamster would would suffer an ill fate.

503
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Speaker 1: Can I send the one hundred and forty five pound

504
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: version of Peoter Jon that beat Morob Dualazvili.

505
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe that guy now.

506
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, first of all, it takes that amount

507
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: of versatility and execution to beat.

508
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 5: Someone like Volkanowski.

509
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Speaker 1: However, I will say Mozart Ivloyev brings a game similar,

510
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, to to the guy who uh you know,

511
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Speaker 1: beat Volkanovsky obviously at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

512
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Speaker 1: And I think that that wrestling style, that high pressure,

513
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: that conditioning is a style that can really pose some

514
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: problems for for Volkanovsky. Now, I think, you know, striking wise,

515
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Ivloyev has got to be careful. He certainly doesn't carry

516
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: that same level of experience, but I do think that

517
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: he has the wrestling and grappling that can thwart a

518
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: lot of the offense and shut down and quiet down

519
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Volkanovski tremendously.

520
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Kenny Hamster killer Florian.

521
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, yeah, you think he's dead.

522
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: Huh No, I'm just pod question the gat Anta Chlorian pod.

523
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: To save my daughter Tatum's hamster cookie, right, gerbils are bigger,

524
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: So to save my daughter's hamster. What featherweight to you

525
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: is sending in there to try to beat Alexander Volkanovsky?

526
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: I think for me, in in my hamsters saving mood,

527
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: I would probably send al Jo in there because maybe

528
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: he could catch an r NC. That's not crazy, is it, Kenny?

529
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: No?

530
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Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly has much better finishing ability than

531
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Speaker 1: someone like Ivloyev, you know, takedown. You know, does he

532
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: have the takedown ability to stop someone like Volkanovsky? Potentially? Potentially?

533
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I think that's where it would come down to, you know,

534
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: for me, is is his wrestling good enough to consistently

535
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: take down Volkanovsky and get to his back? I think

536
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: as far as finishing he would probably have a better

537
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: chance than i Voyev.

538
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so much to discuss when it comes

539
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: to UFC three twenty five. Will continue on this path

540
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: with Ray Longo and Dan tom coming up. So some

541
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Speaker 2: interesting questions asked by these Australian fans, and it sort

542
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: of is a segue to Ben was sant Deny One

543
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: of the questions that was asked of Carlos Protests and

544
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Speaker 2: Joshua Van who did this appearance with me? If you

545
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: were in a street fight, which other rostered UFC fighters

546
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: you can name two would you bring with you? And

547
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: my goodness, man, I know they weren't probing me, but

548
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: I would be taking Ben was sant Denis and somebody

549
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: else with me into the streets of any foreign city.

550
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: Ben was Antony and the comin event over Dan Hooker

551
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: by TKO four straight finishes. Now, I believe for Ben

552
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: was Antony. What an absolute free Kenny. I'm sort of

553
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: glad that you're not fighting this guy in you're one

554
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pound prime.

555
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Speaker 5: My god, gosh, man.

556
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Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't the best of starts for Ben

557
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: was Antony, But what he did indicate very quickly to

558
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker was this is a style that is going

559
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Speaker 1: to be suffering. This is how I'm going to fight you,

560
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna go away until you are finished.

561
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: Like the chaos that he brings in to the octagon

562
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: is just unbelievable. He came forward with his typical high

563
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: pressure style. You know, I was a little concerned on

564
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: some of those level changes where he was kind of

565
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: a telegraphing a little bit, but it didn't matter, you know,

566
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Speaker 1: even through you know, the guillotine attacks that Dan Hooker

567
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: was very intelligently employing, once you got past that first layer,

568
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: and you know, so many times in a fight, you

569
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: know you'll see things that are a little bit close,

570
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: but once you break through those layers.

571
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Speaker 5: And you peel those layers back.

572
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: A little bit, that's where you find out how good

573
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Speaker 1: a fighter really is.

574
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Speaker 5: And Ben Wi Santini.

575
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Speaker 1: Once he got by that first layer of that guillotine defense.

576
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Speaker 5: It was all over for Dan Hooker.

577
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: It was just superior positioning, brutal ground and pound. Dan

578
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: Hooker just did not have an answer. In Hooker, we

579
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Speaker 1: know about his competitiveness and I you know how much

580
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: he wants to go out there and finish his opponents,

581
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough. Ben Wills Antony is so impressive

582
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: to watch because he's not the best athlete in the world.

583
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: He's not the most technical fighter in the world, but

584
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: boy is he an absolute savage.

585
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 5: He is in there to kill or be killed period.

586
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he sort of understands that about his

587
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: disposition that instinctually sometimes that predator takes over and he's

588
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: just willing to walk through fire. And yeah, you can

589
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: separate a man from consciousness and get a referee stoppage.

590
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: That maybe is early, but this is an absolute, tried

591
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: and true warrior. French Special Forces Operator Supreme. He started

592
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: training in MMA. If you don't know, to try to

593
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: become a better Navy seal so to speak, you know,

594
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: that's why he started on this MMA path. And I

595
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: don't know, Kenny if I'm a lightweight. I mean, he's

596
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: the opposite of a picnic showing up in your bracket.

597
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: I mean, how far can he take this thing? He's

598
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: big for the weight class, right, we know there isn't

599
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five pound weight class where he

600
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: might presumably reside, So everything really does have to be

601
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: perfect when it comes to the weightcut. He has a

602
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: committed coach in Nicholas Ott, and they've realized great results together. Again,

603
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: we populated the lightweight rankings because we'd like to give

604
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: you all resources at your disposal. I mean, how far

605
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: can can he? Can he be the undisputed lightweight champion?

606
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 5: I do not think so.

607
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I do not think so just because of how good

608
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: the other athletes are at the top. When you're talking

609
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: about guys like you know, Armatserukian and Charles olivera Max Holloway,

610
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: those are guys that kind of have all of those

611
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: different elements of being a technician, being a great athlete,

612
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: having a ton of experience.

613
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 5: So I think Ben was antony.

614
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: I think can be a are I think he can

615
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: be a guy that the UFC can rely on on

616
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: delivering exciting fights. I think he can be a threat

617
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: to some of those guys. But do I think he

618
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: can be a champion in that division. No, not because

619
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: of you know him necessarily. I just think that the

620
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: other guys in this division are just so damn good.

621
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's so much fun to watch.

622
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: Do you think geeche knocks him out?

623
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: See the way he matches up against someone like Kaichi

624
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: would be interesting because both those guys like that chaos, right,

625
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: So there's a little bit of recklessness involved in that

626
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: fight where you know, with that volatility, you're not quite

627
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: sure which way it's going to go. I think he's

628
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: certainly good enough to take Geichie down and submit him,

629
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Speaker 1: but I also think Geichie's good enough to catch him

630
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: on some of those you know, reckless level changes and

631
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: telegraphing of his takedowns where Geygee can put.

632
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 5: Him out as well. So that would be a really

633
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: fun fight if they could put together something like that

634
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: in the future.

635
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll see how it all shakes out.

636
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Of course, Ita get Topoitia's return seemingly should be imminent,

637
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean there's three belts in this division

638
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: right now. You know, it's crazy, So and I really

639
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: wish for Max Holloway that he would get a chance

640
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: to fight for the undisputed lightweight championship, because I do

641
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: think potentially his fight with Ilia Topolia up ten pounds

642
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: could be a little bit different. But yeah, you know,

643
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: you wonder what it's like for Max Holloway defending a

644
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: BMF belt versus say, a Tom aspen All defending an

645
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: interim championship.

646
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 5: You know.

647
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: And I guess I talk out of both sides of

648
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: my mouth not to get too off track when I

649
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: suggest that the interim belt should be silver, and yet

650
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: it means everything in the world. It's like, you can't

651
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: have your cake and eat it too. What does that

652
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: even me? That stupid ass phrase, you can't have your

653
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: cake and eat it too? No, do do you know

654
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: what that means? What does that mean?

655
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Speaker 1: I guess you can't like have all the things, like

656
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, have it and eat it,

657
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: like yeah, they can give it to you, but you

658
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: can't eat it.

659
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

660
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: There got to be better sayings than that.

661
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 3: Ah.

662
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Speaker 2: Let us get to Mauricio Hoofy in the context of

663
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 2: this lightweight division can flow performance of the night? How

664
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: about Mauricio Hoofy was a little under the weather too.

665
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: What a performance.

666
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: It was an amazing performance.

667
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: And also I guess he lost his brother a few

668
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: days prior to the fight as well. I mean, that

669
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: is a lot to deal with, and you know, I

670
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: think he seemed a little bit off to start the fight.

671
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: How much that had to do with the things going

672
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: outside of the cage or how much of those, you know,

673
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: had to do with physive moving forward, I don't know,

674
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: but you know, there's two types of pressure that you

675
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: can bring in a fight.

676
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 5: You know, there's a couple anyway.

677
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: I think spatial pressure of closing that gap of being

678
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: close to your opponent and not letting him move, similar

679
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: to what we were talking about in the main event

680
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: as far as cutting off the cage. And then there's

681
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: offensive pressure, and a lot of times those two things

682
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: should go together. They don't always go together, but they

683
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: should go together. And Phyzive lacked the offensive pressure. He

684
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: was taking away the space from Hoofi, but he wasn't

685
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: bringing multiple combinations and striking and you know, really not

686
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: letting Hoofy just off the hook there, Like Hoofy was

687
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with that spatial pressure, but eventually he was able

688
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: to figure out physive and that's ultimately what led to

689
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Physique's downfall. Phayzique was doing great when he was attacking

690
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: the calf kicks, when he was attacking the body, but

691
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: Hoofy eventually found his jab, which was able to diffuse

692
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that pressure, and ultimately he started to

693
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: find that nasty right hand that pull counter. My goodness,

694
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: it's a thing of beauty. And once he was landing that,

695
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, I got this. I'll figured it out,

696
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: and it was only a matter of time for Physique getting.

697
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: Knocked out the too I was thinking about you can flow.

698
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean, hoof he really committed to that jab early

699
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: and it was a powerful force in the fight. He

700
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 2: must have been at City Kickboxing in Auckland, New Zealand

701
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: at some point in time, because his UFC bio said

702
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: as much. I know he spent time at Joe Lopez

703
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: his freestyle fighting Jim alongside Alexander Volkanowski. But you know,

704
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people, just good human beings

705
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: like Kyo Bohalio, who I think seemed very accepting of

706
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: what Mauricio Hoofy did. You know, at one point I

707
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: think Bohalio was part of the group that recruited Mauricio

708
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: Hoofi to the Fighting Nerds. But you know, sometimes as

709
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: a fighter you have to make hard decisions, Kenny, And

710
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: I know that was your reality when you went to

711
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Farosa hobby late in your career, right, I mean, sometimes

712
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: you just have to exhaust all resources. And it seems

713
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: like hoofy. I mean, he said at the press conference,

714
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: Australia is now home. It seems like he's going to

715
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: root his life there and so far this is a

716
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: pretty good result, you know, in terms of that decision, right,

717
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody beats physique like this.

718
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: If you want to be the best in the world, John,

719
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought this up. You have to

720
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: train with whoever it is that's going to make you

721
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: better as a fighter.

722
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Period.

723
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: No one has a monopoly on information on all the

724
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: information on right of like how to get better and

725
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: what you can employ. And some things are gonna work

726
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: for you and some things aren't, and you have to

727
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: go out and seek that knowledge no matter what if

728
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: it's in Brazil, the United States, Australia, wherever it is,

729
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: you need to go and get it.

730
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: No one's just gonna hand you that stuff.

731
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: You go out and find the people that are experts

732
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: in their domain or specialists, and you go out and

733
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: train with them. We talked about this with Ian Gary

734
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: going out and training, uh with those guys the fight Nerds,

735
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: or Damian Maya for jiu jitsu or you know, traveling

736
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: around is such an advantage because you see so much

737
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: more as well. So I think it's great that who

738
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: if he went out there spend some time with, you know,

739
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: a camp obviously that has a champion in Volkanovsky, and

740
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, training with Volkanovsky, I think you're gonna learn

741
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: some stuff. So I thought Hoofy looked fantastic once he

742
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: got into his groove. I think he'll look even better

743
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: in the future because of it. And I know he

744
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: mentioned he's going to go back to the Fight Nerds,

745
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's good to see.

746
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: Man.

747
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 5: This is a true martial artists, and that's what martial

748
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 5: artists do. They travel to where the information is.

749
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: So when it comes to matchmaking right now, oftentimes fights

750
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: are talked about in the context of Sunday June fourteenth,

751
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: the White House card, but we're not really going to

752
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: do that just in terms of the matchmaking and in

753
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: an idealistic world, maybe three or four months down the line, right,

754
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: there are so many great matchups for Mauricio Hoofy. I

755
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: guess if you're talking white House, Connor McGregor's in the mix.

756
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: If you're not talking white House, I find it hard

757
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: to believe that Connor's going to fight on any other

758
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: day and you could do worse than Mauricio Hoofy versus

759
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: a guy that in some respects is like looking in

760
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: the mirror in Connor McGregor. Right, But if you look

761
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: at this lightweight division, what do you think for for

762
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Mauricio Hoofi? And I guess not unlike the Ben was

763
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: Santani question, how does he stack up with the gate Cheese,

764
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: the Sarukians, the Patty pimblet fight that he injected into

765
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: the equation MATTAUJ. Gamrod, I mean, I feel like his

766
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: ceiling was super high, took a hit, this was a

767
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: really responsive effort. How competitive is he? I guess relative

768
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 2: to Ben was Antony in terms of his lightweight sealing.

769
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: So I think Hoofi is a special kind of athlete.

770
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: I think he has been gifted with some tremendous athleticism

771
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: the way that he moves his size in that division.

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: He's not small either, by the way, for one hundred

773
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: and fifty five pounder. And yeah, his timing on his

774
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: shots is also very unusual. His vision to be able

775
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: to find the chin like that, it's it's a class

776
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: for sure, There's there's no question about that. I think

777
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: for him, the thing that he would need to improve

778
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: the most, and this is coming off his last fight

779
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: from against Ben wasasent DENI would be his wrestling. I

780
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: think the next place he should go to is spend

781
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: some time in the Midwest, go and train with some

782
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: wrestlers and just hone in on that takedown defense and

783
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: also hone in on his guard, his ability to get

784
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: back to his feet, his ability to maybe be offensive

785
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: off of his back as well. And of course he

786
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: could do that in his home country of Brazil. But

787
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: I think his wrestling is the thing that I would

788
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: like to see improved for a couple reasons. First of all,

789
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: to keep the fight on his feet where he has

790
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: the best advantage. It would add more confidence to those

791
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: striking counters that he possesses, which is rare. And also

792
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: I think it would help his mindset as far as

793
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: dealing with that insane conditioning that is required to be

794
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: a high level wrestler, dealing with that pressure.

795
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: So I think if he's able to do that, I

796
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: think he could be.

797
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: This is a guy that I think actually could be

798
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: a champion in that division as good as that division is.

799
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: I think he can definitely be a champ, but it's

800
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: going to take some technical work for sure.

801
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, laid out as usual by Kenny Florian. All right,

802
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: now join us on the guest line. Great to have

803
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: this guy with us for the first time in a

804
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: long time. Very insightful mind when it comes to this

805
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: mixed martial arts stuff and he's been on the mat himself. Yeah,

806
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I give him the center screen right there. Mixed Martial

807
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Arts Analyst, MMA Junkie USA today Home of Fight Dan

808
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: Tom Good to see a DT. How we doing, dude.

809
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Speaker 9: Good to see you guys talking about talking about the card.

810
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 9: You guys are reading my mind here and seeing a

811
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 9: lot of the things I had in my mind. But

812
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 9: it's just a great appreciation to be here with you guys.

813
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 9: Thank you for the invite.

814
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: My man so main event Alexander Volkanowski. There was a

815
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 2: fifty to forty five out there largely. I saw it

816
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: that way, and this hasn't really been the most competitive

817
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: two fight series. From my vantage point, I think we're

818
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: simultaneously trying to celebrate Vulkan also sort of assessed Diego

819
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: and be critical. I mean, Diego leads the league in will,

820
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: he goes to Stillwater, Oklahoma for a month during every

821
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: training camp to work on his wrestling. You know, wet

822
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: equity doesn't even begin to describe it, but certainly not

823
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: the desired results. So I'm curious what you thought of,

824
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, Diego's effort, I think specifically in terms of

825
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: trying to close the gap in this rematch.

826
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree with fifty forty five scorecards. I'm

827
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 9: not too big of a fan. I know he got

828
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 9: caught with a short right hand that Stundem briefly did

829
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 9: Volcan round three, but round three was an action heavy

830
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 9: round that you know, I saw more visible reactions from

831
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Speaker 9: from Diego, Lopez and Volkanovsky. So I appreciate that opinion

832
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 9: of yours, as well as the scorecards that matter, right, John,

833
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 9: And I'm not too big of a fan of which

834
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 9: you know they'll tell you.

835
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 10: I've done the judgment programs before.

836
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 9: And they'll you know, have you adjudicate a round and

837
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 9: you know, whether it's you know, Jason McDonald or Kevin

838
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 9: McDonald or whoever, they'll stop you in your tracks and

839
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 9: be like, stop you. They'll stop you right there if

840
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 9: you say, oh, he stole the round right with a

841
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 9: single shot, because they actually we use that term a lot,

842
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 9: but the judges actually go against that, which I appreciate,

843
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 9: by the way, because you know, it's more of a

844
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 9: body of work thing, you know, I know, especially Kenny,

845
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 9: I'm probably preaching to the choir here. There's a lot

846
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 9: of shots that you pick up or perhaps other people

847
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 9: pick up, and you're like, nah, not so much. And

848
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 9: if around swings on just one of those strikes, we

849
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 9: can get into a real slippery slope. But that's another

850
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 9: discussion for later. Thankfully, the judges were pretty in lockstep

851
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 9: as far as that fight goes, As far as Diego

852
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 9: Lopez goes. He's in that rich Franklin territory right, A

853
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 9: little reference for our times there where you lose zero

854
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 9: and two to the champ puts in a tough spot. Now,

855
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 9: Lopez ha looked great. I second, all the things you

856
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 9: guys were saying about the wrestling his camps, and he

857
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 9: certainly had enough time to rehydrate, so the weight didn't

858
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 9: look like an issue. However, I tend to look at

859
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 9: that canary in the coal mine with these tall lank

860
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 9: your guys, and Lopez, as you guys know, is huge,

861
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 9: and I've kind of pictured him at one fifty five

862
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 9: in the future. Part of me like wanted to see

863
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 9: him against Justin Gaetchee for some reason. I know that

864
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 9: probably won't happen, but you guys were just mentoring Mauricio

865
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 9: Hoofi and I'm like, there's a fight right there, a

866
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 9: little maybe rematch for his buddy John Silva. I know that,

867
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 9: you know, the training camp things are a little tricky

868
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 9: now that you guys laid out, But I don't want

869
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 9: to push Diego Lopez any which way, guys, But the

870
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 9: one fifty five thought coming to your guys.

871
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Mind, Yeah, I mean, I think a reset would would

872
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense. He certainly has the

873
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: frame to be able to put on more muscle, and

874
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: you wonder if that's gonna, you know, add to the

875
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: energy that he brings on fight night, needed that much more,

876
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, Dan, I'm curious about you know what you

877
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: thought of the foot breaks. Apparently he broke both of

878
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: his feet. Do you think that had anything to do

879
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: with it as far as maybe his lack of pressure

880
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: later on in the fight or you know, because to

881
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: me it seemed like he was kind of just falling

882
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: the same game plan as as the last fight.

883
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 9: It's tough those those who want to give credit to,

884
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 9: you know, Volkanovsky for his checks obviously, which is another

885
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 9: thing that kind of annoys me with stats, Like he

886
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 9: looked like Jose Aldo out there right with the way

887
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 9: he was checking the leg kicks, and you go and

888
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 9: watch them of Jose Aldose fights even later career, and

889
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 9: you'll see that, like the statisticians are giving credit for

890
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 9: those leg kicks when they are arguably hurting the person

891
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 9: that checks more right back to those they were thrown

892
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 9: back to you, Kenny. As far as those little intricacies

893
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 9: of martial arts, right that maybe don't translate to a

894
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 9: sports friendly, statistic friendly zone. But as far as the

895
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 9: footwork goes, I gotta kind of maybe lay some some criticism.

896
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 10: Of the camp.

897
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 9: I'm not sure I saw too many adjustments outside of

898
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 9: the South Paul to try to cut off certain exits.

899
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 9: Of course, I do want to give certain tactical credits there,

900
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 9: but I don't know how much Diego still trains with

901
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 9: that Lobo gym. But we've seen some kind of you know,

902
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 9: strategic and some footwork errors kind of come out of

903
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 9: that gym, whether it was Alexo Brosso's adjustments down the

904
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 9: stretch against Yuvchenko. And I'm a big an al Dona fan, guys,

905
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 9: but you know, look at her against Holly Holm. As

906
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 9: far as South southball footwork and strategy, she was essentially

907
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 9: just trying to chase the outside angle and ran herself

908
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 9: in a circle.

909
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 10: I'm sure you've seen that in the gym.

910
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 9: Can guys trying to stay out of your power lane

911
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 9: as a South Paul, But you know, al Donna was

912
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 9: essentially just running around the circle. And I noticed that

913
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 9: maybe cage craft could be a you know, a potential issue.

914
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 9: A lot of camps are positive and negative trends, not

915
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 9: that I try to focus on the negative, but I

916
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 9: keep tabs of those, and yeah, man, part of me

917
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 9: prognosticating Lopez's chances, I was looking at the adjustments from

918
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 9: you know, people in his orbit, and I haven't quite

919
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 9: seen those yet. So I'm not sure what their plan was.

920
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: To be honest, Dan Tom with us here live on

921
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: the Anicanplorian podcast at Dan Tom MMA. So the rematch

922
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: sort of is what it is and Volkanovski realizing further

923
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: greatness thirty seven years of age we mentioned earlier, Right now,

924
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: he is plus one point fifty on DraftKings Sportsbook to

925
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: end twenty twenty six as the undisputed UFC featherweight champion.

926
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: You know he's going to fight at least once, if

927
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 2: not twice more. I mean there's a lot of prize

928
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: fighter ingrained within this individual. We have the Mavsar Eavoye

929
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: of Laron Murphy main event, and in theory, the winner

930
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: of that would be of an competitive nature for a

931
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 2: quick turnaround. How do you handicap a potential title fight

932
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: for Vulcan defense against either one of those individuals.

933
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 10: It is tough.

934
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 9: You know, I've been a big naysayer of the age,

935
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 9: maybe because I'm getting older guys. I you know, I'm

936
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 9: a man, I'm forty, so I'm kind of like, you know,

937
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 9: back off the old guys a little bit. Vulk's proven himself.

938
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 9: Look what he did at thirty seven and all that. However,

939
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 9: I got to be honest, guys. You know, if we

940
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 9: fast forward and me, you know, breaking down this fight

941
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 9: in the future, I'm probably gonna be leaning into the

942
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 9: the age analytics that most MMA gamblers you know, kind

943
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 9: of get too messing on with. They're like, oh, this

944
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 9: guy's this guy's, oh he's done, and you know what,

945
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 9: there is no biological free luncher, so you have to

946
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 9: worry about there. And of course ive Luev and Lauren

947
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 9: Murphy two completely different fighters, so no detail breakdown for that.

948
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 9: But man, two legitimate threats in their own right that

949
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 9: both have pathways, you know, to potentially beat Volkanovski, not

950
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 9: necessarily by a devastating ko by one of the poundful

951
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 9: pound grades either, which is you know, the pathway to

952
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 9: beating Volka in recent years. But yeah, I would not

953
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 9: be surprised to see him, you know again, either slightly

954
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 9: favorite or flip to an underdog against either of these

955
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 9: guys to match those years.

956
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: John. So in terms of the next fight for Vulcan

957
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: against the winner of that fight, I would suggest that

958
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: vulk should be a favorite, however slight against either one

959
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: of those guys, and I have no problem if people

960
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: suggested Movsar I Offloyev. If he beats Laron, would be

961
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: the favorite. He'd be the undefeated fighter, he'd be the

962
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: younger fighter. But I asked Kenny, like, if you had

963
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: to send a featherweight in there, right, I think Kenny

964
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: would send Movsar Ivloyev. I guess for me, if I

965
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: had to send somebody in there, I would probably, right now,

966
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: just as a fan answering a question I didn't expect

967
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: to answer today, send Aljo in there, because I think

968
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: he's He's the guy who's got the best chance if

969
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: he can get a dominant position actually finished the fight.

970
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: You know, So who do you think is the guy

971
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: if you had to send one guy in there to

972
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: beat Vulk that has the best chance, Movsar?

973
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 9: You know, I feel like Movsar would be your deserved favorite.

974
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 9: If we were to put like the top five choices

975
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 9: in the odds, I think mobs ares number one, So

976
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 9: anybody picking that not silly, I would probably go with

977
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 9: the quiet number two, which is larn Murphy, just because

978
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 9: I believe he does have more of that stand up

979
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 9: edge and Volkanofsky kind of similar to guys like Holloway

980
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 9: or Wow, this is a really wild reach, but shout

981
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 9: out to your guy, Brian stand for breaking down Derek

982
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 9: Lewis so accurately where some guys do better against grapplers, right,

983
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 9: and you look at their records quietly do do poorly

984
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 9: against strikers, And I feel like Volkanofsky, you know, even Halloway.

985
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 9: You know everyone's worried about or Taga back in the

986
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 9: day with Halloway, we saw tight lines there.

987
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 10: But these guys are really good anti grapplers, you know.

988
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 9: And was just listening to an interview with Kobe Thickness

989
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 9: talking about how excited he is to see volk perhaps

990
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 9: in an anti grappling match up next.

991
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 10: So I would actually maybe go Larron Murphy for a

992
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 10: flyer there, Dan.

993
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: Do you see any physical decline at Volkanovskiy at all?

994
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 9: A little bit from you know, a little bit from

995
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 9: perhaps speed, which tends to go right in the lighter

996
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 9: weight classes. Cardio not too much of a problem, which

997
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 9: is also why I leaned off the mobs are side.

998
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 9: You know a lot of the times gas tanks will

999
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 9: also start to go, even the better gas tanks, and

1000
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 9: when you get when you get older. Did not see

1001
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 9: that from Vulk, and I heard he had a shoulder injury.

1002
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 9: By the way, folks speaking of Kobe Thickness was saying

1003
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 9: he had a shoulder injury. He was battling through camp

1004
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 9: and wanted to grapple more, which I predicted. To my predictions,

1005
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 9: I felt a little less crazy about that. But apparently,

1006
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 9: aside from the turbulence and the solid defense that we

1007
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 9: got to credit Lopez for, he didn't feel like pushing

1008
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 9: after that because of apparently a shoulder injury. So I

1009
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 9: don't want to judge Volk too harshly if he was

1010
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 9: out there winning at you know, non optimal conditions.

1011
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you both if I could, about

1012
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: Talis and to share and tied to Evasa, I guess

1013
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: just in the context of both athletes gassing a little

1014
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: bit or a lot of bit, because sometimes I feel

1015
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: like the heavyweights deserve the benefit of the doubt and

1016
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of weight to move around, And

1017
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 2: certainly these guys both do work hard. I can't tell

1018
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: you exactly how disciplined and how hard they work, but

1019
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: Dan Taito Ivasa cut down from three hundred and thirty

1020
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: pounds he left his family. He went to Dubai Talentsen

1021
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: to share works really hard and was super present in

1022
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: our fighter meeting. Has a big personality. He had never

1023
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: fought into a second round. Uh, isn't always the prettiest aesthetic.

1024
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: But what did you make of the heavyweights? Dan and

1025
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: ken Floy You can.

1026
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 9: Fall tail as old as time, guys, tail as old

1027
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 9: as time.

1028
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 10: You know, Talis and chair was favorite to win and

1029
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 10: he did win.

1030
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 9: But the confidence and everybody which was speaking, I'm just

1031
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys ever do this where

1032
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 9: you've you've been watching a song where you're like, guys, guys,

1033
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 9: would we really be surprised if X fighter one right?

1034
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 9: Like how many times have we done this dance, especially

1035
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 9: when it comes to either heavyweight or the opposite Andrew

1036
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 9: end of the spectrum female divisions right, And it was

1037
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 9: the same thing where like I picked ty tu Vosa

1038
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 9: to win and he didn't.

1039
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 10: But it was kind of one of those things where it.

1040
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 9: Shows it's like this is such a wild division, you know,

1041
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 9: especially once it gets out of the first round, Like

1042
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 9: I'm of the school, you know, shout out to my

1043
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 9: guy Scott Fontana, who's like heavyweight unless it's like a

1044
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 9: unless it's ranked heavyweights, they should all be one round fights.

1045
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,479
Speaker 10: And you know I'm gonna agree into that. You know, gone,

1046
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 10: I'm sure you would be.

1047
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 9: You don't have to say anything, but you know, make

1048
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 9: me make the card a little more digestible, more entertaining,

1049
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 9: right once we got Once we get out of that

1050
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 9: first round, man, all bets are off. And yeah, I

1051
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 9: don't want to be too tough because talis And to

1052
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 9: share it. Even though he wasn't that proven, he did

1053
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 9: get three rounds under his belt, as ugly as it

1054
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,919
Speaker 9: was to see, I think that was really important from him.

1055
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 9: So uh, I don't want to judge him too much.

1056
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 9: I want to see how talis And bounces back from this.

1057
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 9: And boy, I don't I don't know where Tie goes

1058
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 9: from here. I was really rooting for him. I don't

1059
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 9: know if he can maybe get you know, some of

1060
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 9: that sam Alvi love and you can get another shot

1061
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 9: because he brings the action or what. Guys, I don't know,

1062
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 9: but I got nothing but love for Tie and and respect.

1063
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 10: You know, he put it.

1064
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 9: He put in a hard camp to get down there

1065
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 9: and you know, couldn't quite get it done though.

1066
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, I'm gonna agree agreement with you on that

1067
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: because you know, Tollison hadn't been past five minutes, you know,

1068
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: in his professional career, and being in that unknown territory,

1069
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy to get emotional and excited and

1070
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: to not have your conditioning with you. Because of that

1071
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: obviously huge fight, all that stuff, and obviously the pressure

1072
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: that touy Vasa.

1073
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Speaker 5: Was bringing in that fight trying to knock him out.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot going on for a fighter, and I

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Speaker 1: think this is the one where you kind of you

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00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: let him go.

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Speaker 5: And I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think that next fight is really where we can

1079
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: make a much better assessment of like does he have

1080
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: the conditioning and the composure to be able to do

1081
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: this at a high level through fifteen minutes or twenty

1082
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: five minutes, because you want to see someone learn from

1083
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: something like that. Against tooy Vosa, it got sloppy. A

1084
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with that lack of

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00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: condition lack of conditioning. I think he's a much more

1086
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: technical fighter than what he showed. I think he got

1087
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: a little excited with his ground and pound in round one,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's the reason for that couple.

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Speaker 2: More minutes here with Dan Tom on the Anakin Florian Podcast,

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00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: speaking of your buddy Scott Fantana Fontana. He puts something

1091
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: out on social media that, at least right now, I

1092
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: think it was something to the effect of there are

1093
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: no undisputed UFC titles on paper scheduled right now, which

1094
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: is crazy. That may not be true, but I think

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00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 2: that actually is true. And shout out to Kayla Harrison

1096
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: as she recovers right because when you think about her

1097
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: emotionally digesting losing the New Nest fight and potentially simultaneously

1098
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: the White House state, that just feels like a huge

1099
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: blow for a two time United States Olympian and gold medalist.

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Speaker 2: But what do you think in terms of that reality

1101
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: right now? And I guess as a follow up, I

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00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: hate when fucking journalists asks two questions in once, but like,

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00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: what is your dream fight for the White House? Because

1104
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: the world is the UFC's oyster right now. They have

1105
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: this set up, right we have a BMF belt on

1106
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: the line in March and Miami puts or other cities

1107
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 2: being rumored for April. You know, what do you think

1108
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: in terms of June fourteenth, if you are trying to

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00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: build the card around one fight. What's your dream matchup?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 9: You know, first of all, with Kayla Harrison, props to her, obviously,

1112
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 9: that's really tough. You know, we're seeing her with those

1113
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 9: next surgeries and training. Like, I've had a risk injury

1114
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 9: bothering me since Poie Makachev. That's been you know, keeping

1115
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 9: me light on the mats, Kenny, I don't know how

1116
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 9: you got through fights with injuries, you know, when you

1117
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 9: have injuries.

1118
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 10: Now as we're older, we're like, how do we how

1119
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 10: do we compete with this stuff?

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Speaker 9: Like Kayla's out there on the mats with a scar

1121
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 9: on her neck, like, props to her, first of all.

1122
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 9: But to answer your your White House question, I think

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00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 9: that does lead into that title question, John, and they're

1124
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 9: saving the titles, and well, if there's one champion I

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00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 9: want to see fight, it's Selfish, but it's Illiot Tuporia

1126
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 9: right now, man, that's who I really want to see.

1127
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 9: I know the lightweight is crazy, but that's all the

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00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 9: more reason for him to come back. And there are

1129
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 9: plenty you know of options there as well. So anything

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00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 9: involving Ilio ta Poria, even if it's a crazy fight

1131
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 9: against Islam Makachev if they pulled that out of now again,

1132
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 9: I don't care. I want to see Ilia again. Call

1133
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 9: me a fanboy, I sound like one right now. I

1134
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 9: just want to see that guy back in the octagon.

1135
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 2: It's so interesting. I don't know what's going to happen

1136
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: with the White House right but it seems like there

1137
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: might be some weather dynamic canflow, and competitors like Kenny

1138
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: Florian and Ilia Toporia would rather win a fight indoors

1139
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: than inject that variable, I think into the So sometimes

1140
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 2: when I hear Ilio talk about April, you know, part

1141
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: of me is thinking like he he wants to fight

1142
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: in an arena, in a more controlled environment. I mean,

1143
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: I think the White House is going to be crazy Kenny,

1144
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: and I think for certain athletes it might feel like

1145
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: once in a lifetime. Yes, but you know you want

1146
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: the green stripe on your Wikipedia page more than you

1147
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: want to compete on the White House lawn, don't you.

1148
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 5: I'm still thinking about you putting me my name in

1149
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 5: the same line as.

1150
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: Eliot to Portia, So thank you for that. Really appreciate that.

1151
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I think those are other things that

1152
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: you got to think about. But Dan, yeah, obviously I'm

1153
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: with you. I'm a huge Toporia fan. I think he's

1154
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: the best fighter in the sport right now, potentially ever,

1155
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: just based on his high level of technique that he brings.

1156
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: John is you know already knowing that I was gonna

1157
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: answer that for me? Can I answer who I want

1158
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: to see John? This is kind of a left field answer,

1159
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: but I would love to. I would love to see

1160
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: John Jones in Poeton. I would love to see Peta

1161
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: and John Jones. I'm not sure that's gonna happen, but

1162
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: I can.

1163
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 5: I can dream.

1164
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, and it's your show. I mean yeah,

1165
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's left field at all. I

1166
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: think it's just about what are you putting on the line.

1167
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: You're not gonna do a heavyweight BMF belt and John

1168
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: Jones making two hundred and five pounds seems awfully ambitious

1169
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: for June thirteenth at Dan Tom MMA. If you want

1170
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: more from this man, tremendous analytics, especially when it comes

1171
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: to South pause my man. Appreciate you hopping on and

1172
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: we'll talk to you real soon.

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00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 10: Hey, appreciate you guys anytime. I have a great show,

1174
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 10: and good seeing you guys there.

1175
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 2: He is Dan Tom with us here today on the

1176
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: Anakin Florian podcast. Kenny gonna really be fascinating. I do

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: think they're probably gonna have Ilio Topodia versus Justin Gaegee

1178
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: on June floor.

1179
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 5: Let's go.

1180
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: Max Holloway Charles Olivera the winner of that fight potentially

1181
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: against Connor McGregor might make some sense, but think about

1182
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: I have no insight into what is going to happen,

1183
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: but it seems like from renderings and some stuff that's

1184
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: out there that this is not gonna be an indoor show,

1185
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: right Yeah.

1186
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: I ah, that's an interesting one, and again just brings

1187
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: a whole different level of complexity of putting something like

1188
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: this together, you know, outside of just the insane amount

1189
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: of money.

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, man, you know, I think it's gonna be

1191
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: huge either way.

1192
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: I think those are gonna be factors that are gonna

1193
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: be considered by fighters and their camps and their management

1194
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Yeah, but you know, I would

1195
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: love to see Olivera Holloway, you know, the winner of

1196
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: that one fight con I think that that's the fight

1197
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: right there, that's the fight, dude.

1198
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1199
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: So there are a lot of people who listen to

1200
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: this show that maybe aren't NBA fans, right, But former

1201
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics head coach Rick Patino once famously said, in

1202
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: an agitated state to the Boston sports media, Larry Bird's

1203
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 2: not walking through that door. Robert Parris isn't walking through

1204
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: that door. Kevin McHale's not walking through that goddamn dor.

1205
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: So you're gonna embrace this talent in this team or

1206
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: you're not. And even if we win fifteen games and

1207
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: lose sixty seven, right, and the most tired narrative out there.

1208
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: And I know the promotion cuts my check, but trust

1209
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: me when people say there are no stars or oh,

1210
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: where the UFC star is gonna come?

1211
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Right?

1212
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: Is there a lot of Sonia made his UFC debut

1213
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 2: eight years ago. Alex Poeton Padata made his UFC debut

1214
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: five years ago. Right, Quillan salkilled is the reason why

1215
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: I start talking about this right now? Carlos protests, right,

1216
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: I mean Joshua van On and on it goes. I

1217
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: promise there are a lot of stars and quillin sal killed.

1218
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: Kenny in a year is becoming a huge star over there.

1219
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: He attended the first three UFC shows in Perth as

1220
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: a fan, and what a performance. I know he was

1221
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: minus twelve hundred, but what do you make of the

1222
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: expeditious rise of the budding lightweight contender Quillan sell Killed.

1223
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting.

1224
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: You know, that is a criticism that I've heard recycled

1225
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: since the time that I was fighting, So anyways, Yeah,

1226
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: there's always going to be stars guys, and if you

1227
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: don't know who they are, then you're not paying attention

1228
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: in my opinion. But anyways, Yeah, I thought Sell Killed

1229
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: showed yet another wrinkle to his game. He is dangerous

1230
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: on the ground as well. That takedown was phenomenal. Talk

1231
01:00:56,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: about high amplitude, Johnny. The takedown was beautiful. Uh, the

1232
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: finish was sick.

1233
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 9: Uh.

1234
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: This is the guy that you're gonna have to worry about.

1235
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: This is a martial artist through and through. And you

1236
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,959
Speaker 1: know this is why his his coaches in his camp

1237
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: were so excited about, uh this fight is they know

1238
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: that this guy is dangerous and good everywhere. I think

1239
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna continue to surprise and entertain people.

1240
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1241
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 5: The mullet is on point, this stile, I love it, dude.

1242
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 5: It's good.

1243
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1244
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: The extent to which this show caters to Ray Longo

1245
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: is crazy. I mentioned off the top of the show

1246
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: that he got to decide whether our time zone permanently

1247
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: was ten am or noon. Moving forward and now Cody

1248
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: Thrice has said to me, have Ray, have Ray. I

1249
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: get it. Let's get to the high maintenance star of

1250
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: the program and the Way Long Ago Minute.

1251
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: Now times a Ray Long Minute.

1252
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 5: Shows, The Ray Long No.

1253
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 8: Minute and Kenny Florian podcast.

1254
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he's up. How you doing right?

1255
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: Holy you back in Connecticut? I am back in You'll?

1256
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 3: I lost my heat last night?

1257
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 5: So oh no?

1258
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow, so I might.

1259
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 7: I might not make it to the end of the

1260
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 7: podcast on freezing.

1261
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 2: Can we get your blanket? You got a you got

1262
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: a space heater, or you got no power?

1263
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 3: It did have a space We have power. We had

1264
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 3: a space heater.

1265
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: Well, does your wife watch live because she could get

1266
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: the space heater. She was watching live. She bring the

1267
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: space heater in there?

1268
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: She would, she would do that, But we're not doing it.

1269
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, she's not there.

1270
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 2: Are you sun splashed? Is that what I'm saying? Sun

1271
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: splashed today?

1272
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

1273
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's nice to see you. So that was

1274
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 2: your trip, John, It was absolutely crazy. I had so

1275
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: many travel issues on the front end, I left Red Rock,

1276
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: went to the Vegas Airport, hung out there for about

1277
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: six hours. Flight got canceled back to Red Rock, spent

1278
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 2: an extra night in Vegas, back to the airport, flight

1279
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 2: to LA canceled, booked through Phoenix, flight to Phoenix canceled.

1280
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: Finally was able to get to LA from a different

1281
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 2: terminal to the Vegas airport. So all told, it was wild.

1282
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: Then I spent eleven hours at LAX before I went

1283
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: out there, and then got to San Francisco. And on

1284
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: the back end, yeah, it was. Nobody wants to hear

1285
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 2: about that, you know.

1286
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, that's rough man. Wow. Yeah, but no, it was.

1287
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: It was amazing. I've never spent less time on the

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Speaker 2: ground in Australia though. Because I was delayed going out there,

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Speaker 2: you know, I missed a lot of obligations on the

1290
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: front end. I was supposed to MC the open workouts.

1291
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: I was not able to honor that obligation. But it

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01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: is what it is. We're here and I'm happy to

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01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: see you, and.

1294
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 3: I know that.

1295
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 2: Justin Gatchee commented on what you said on the program

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01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 2: last week, you know, and I think sort of we

1297
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: all try to contextualize these and they results and we

1298
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: spin it forward when it comes to iliotsoportia, you know,

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Speaker 2: and I think sometimes you know, for our analyst, whether

1300
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: it's Anthony Smith or Dean Thomas, you know, you're put

1301
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: in a position where you're you're needing to be critical,

1302
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: you know. And I don't know if Justin's comments even

1303
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: crossed your wake at all.

1304
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: You know.

1305
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you.

1306
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 7: So last week I'm driving driving into the gym and

1307
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 7: wide Mean calls and he goes, did you see you

1308
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 7: know with guys, I have no idea. I really haven't

1309
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 7: been on social media, so he he told me. I mean,

1310
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 7: I think it was like tongue in cheek, but yes

1311
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 7: it was. I told Widman, I said, get.

1312
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 3: Me his number.

1313
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 7: I actually want to call him. But he never got

1314
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 7: He said he called d c DC never gave him

1315
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 7: the number.

1316
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: I got the number first off.

1317
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 7: I you know, this is what I don't like about

1318
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 7: even talking sometimes because I like just engage. I always right, guy, guys,

1319
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 7: for now, he's everything you want to fight at. You

1320
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 7: just say something about a fight at me? Does I

1321
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 7: don't To me, it doesn't mean anything.

1322
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I like concern it was you were concerned about.

1323
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 7: Well, listen, I don't. I don't know him, Like he's

1324
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 7: not my best friend, so I'm not. It's not concerned

1325
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 7: like where I'm jumping in there. Sure, but you know

1326
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 7: I've seen you know, we got a girl that boxed.

1327
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: In New York.

1328
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 7: Now she's you know, struggling with with some stuff, and

1329
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 7: I've seen it before. It's like, it's not like you

1330
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 7: know it's coming. It's just it's start acting weird one

1331
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 7: day or something happens and then it's over. That's it,

1332
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 7: and it's gonna be tough to come back. It's just

1333
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 7: food for thought, you know what I mean. We're you know,

1334
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 7: I could tell you like Phil Baroni's sitting in the

1335
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 7: jail in Mexico. He wasn't mad hatter, There's no question

1336
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 7: about it. But you combine mad hatter, We're getting punched

1337
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 7: in the head a lot. It's just not a good thing.

1338
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 7: I don't know that's where it came from. It was

1339
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 7: maybe just to raise awareness because it's not like he's

1340
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 7: my best friend, and you know, I do care. I

1341
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 7: think the guy's like again, everything you want to fight,

1342
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 7: that guy's a fucking gunslinger. He's got it looks like

1343
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 7: he's got a great mom and dad. I would never

1344
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 7: want to, you know, make the guy feel bad. I mean,

1345
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 7: what has nothing to do with that, you know whatever, but.

1346
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: Making him feel good for a decade, that's why.

1347
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: No.

1348
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: But he he supports this show, and there was a

1349
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: time where he wanted to break some news and he

1350
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: asked all the Abdela's ease if he could come on

1351
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: this program. Right, so he follows the show. Your comments

1352
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: crossed his wake, and you have been one of his

1353
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: foremost supporters over the last ten years. And so that's

1354
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: what his comment was rooted. And I just wanted to

1355
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: give you a chance to address it and just I mean, like.

1356
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 7: Again, he's got nothing else to prove, this guy, that's

1357
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 7: the other thing he's had.

1358
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 3: He's getting up.

1359
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 7: Then he's got He's had a great career. He's fought

1360
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 7: the best of the best, He's beat the best of

1361
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 7: the best. You know, he's been in wars with everybody else.

1362
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't, I don't know. I mean there's nothing.

1363
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I could go on gassing them up for

1364
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 7: the next you know, two hours too. But of course,

1365
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 7: always always, you know, always a nice guy. When you

1366
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 7: see him says hello and stuff and and uh yeah

1367
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 7: that nothing was meant uh literally, I mean, just please

1368
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 7: don't take it the wrong way. And just made an

1369
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 7: obtavation that I think you might be, you know, slurring

1370
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 7: your words a little bit.

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 3: There's nothing, nothing crazy. I just I don't know. Just

1372
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 3: be careful.

1373
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 7: That was it, you know, because you know everybody people

1374
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 7: will grind you out too, you know what I mean.

1375
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 7: He isn't entertaining fight. He always will be till the

1376
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 7: day he's he's.

1377
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: Out of here. So just be careful.

1378
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 7: Nothing remotely And I don't think it's come I think

1379
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 7: right now. Yeah, yeah, read it because there's something sir

1380
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 7: slur ladders.

1381
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you just fucking slurred saying it.

1382
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1383
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 7: Yeah right, yeah, Hey listen, I'm gonna tell you John,

1384
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 7: I've I listened. I've I've done a decent amount as far.

1385
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 7: But yeah, you just about about fifteen years ago, I

1386
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 7: was driving, I was driving. It almost blacked out while

1387
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 7: I was driving. The first thing that hit me was like,

1388
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 7: holy shit, maybe I got hit in the head too many.

1389
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, he's frozen.

1390
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're slurring your speech and now you're frozen like

1391
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: fucking outside.

1392
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 5: So that's how cold it is. His WiFi is cold.

1393
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, here's what Justin Gates. He wrote,

1394
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 2: Harsh lost my biggest post fight fan in long ago

1395
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: after one dominant performance. Still love him hashtag they call

1396
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 2: me sir slurs a lot.

1397
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah I think that.

1398
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, I'm still your biggest fan. You didn't

1399
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 7: lose anything. That's what I'm saying. Like it's it's a

1400
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 7: rough position because I respect the fighters more than anybody.

1401
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think any one of my.

1402
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,879
Speaker 7: Fighters will tell you that they almost get caught Blanche.

1403
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 7: They can't do anything wrong, you know what I mean.

1404
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 7: So I'm not that guy.

1405
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes when you do in the show, when

1406
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: you you know, yes.

1407
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 7: Just make it comment. But whatever, man, love you, Yeah,

1408
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 7: keep doing your thing and that's it.

1409
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 3: Man. Like again, I think he looks like a great

1410
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 3: guy man too.

1411
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 2: You know, Ray, I think Kenny might make a little

1412
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: bit more per week on this show than you do.

1413
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 2: But when we aligned with all the smoke Fight and

1414
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: we figured out our time thought was either going to

1415
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: be ten am live or noon, we came to you

1416
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: and asked you which you prefer, true or false?

1417
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: Oh I don't know if if you're telling me, I guess,

1418
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: how would I know who you called first? Just tell

1419
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: me how I would know that.

1420
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's saying that, you know, we we wanted to

1421
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: make sure or wanted to see which time was better.

1422
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 7: With you, right, thank you very much. That's different than

1423
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 7: who got called first. I have no idea, I have

1424
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 7: no control over that.

1425
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 3: A lot of it's about respect, but oh, thank you

1426
01:09:59,560 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 3: very much.

1427
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: You have the highest I'm getting You're not I'm not

1428
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 2: coming after me.

1429
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: Guys have turned it off.

1430
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 2: Don't deflect, don't deflect. Don't deflect. You have the highest

1431
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 2: public approval rating on this show. You know, sometimes you're

1432
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: a little long of win, but people like you more

1433
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 2: than they like anyone else on this show, followed closely

1434
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: by Kenny and I'm not here for my public approval rating.

1435
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: I'm here to host and produce the show.

1436
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: Right, and I'll tell you what to talk about.

1437
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: Interrupts me with Shiit Wi Fi.

1438
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 7: I think it was, don't Iam Parker. I want to

1439
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 7: look at the comment. I mean, it's like rotten tomatoes,

1440
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 7: like it was unbelievea what But you guys do see

1441
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 7: I'm out of the Loopidor of this stuff. Yeah, great job,

1442
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 7: mister host. Everybody hates a podcast.

1443
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: Jeez shoe. Yeah? Where was Where was I on that?

1444
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: Where was I on that decision? Kenny? Mister, you own

1445
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: the show. You make a little list thing? Tenny you?

1446
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 3: Where was that? Was I in that decision? Was I

1447
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 3: the first guy to get called for that?

1448
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't think so? Oh my goodness, he's on fire.

1449
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 7: He's on Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, Ian, But I'll tell you.

1450
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 7: I went to the comments. Man, I'm in I've never

1451
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,560
Speaker 7: seen anything like that, my freaking and I've said some

1452
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 7: outrageous ship. I've never got a tactic.

1453
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 2: Oh man, that is amazing.

1454
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: Who's in charge of human resources? Step into my office?

1455
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: You're fired?

1456
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh Ray long a minute every week? Beautiful mug. You're

1457
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: just showed his mug to the audience.

1458
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 3: How's that merchandise going?

1459
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: What are you're laughing at your own merchandise? One than

1460
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 2: Ray Longo? One more sleep sold more than the Ray

1461
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: Long Go minute of twenty twenty five. If you really

1462
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 2: want to know, I want to know how much more?

1463
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 6: So?

1464
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: Huh was that?

1465
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: How much more?

1466
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 3: Twelve shirts to eight shirts?

1467
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 2: Ah? No, it's actually more robust than that. You can

1468
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: ask Jason. I mean, it wasn't crazy, It wasn't crazy,

1469
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: but love you know, I'd love the data on that.

1470
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: You just you are banging all over the show. I mean,

1471
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 2: if you have any other comments you want to make

1472
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 2: about the show.

1473
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 7: It's eleven in the morning and I'm frozen to death,

1474
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 7: so I guess that's well.

1475
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: Hopefully the show's warming up a little bit. You're coming

1476
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: away everybody. You're coming with.

1477
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 7: Everybody, And like Florida is happy, they see the sun

1478
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 7: every day, they'll step outside in the foot of slush

1479
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 7: before they get in their cars. Yes, what happens, Kenny,

1480
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 7: You guys did the raguling. This guy moved back to

1481
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 7: East which I'm.

1482
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: Happy for him.

1483
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: But I can't believe how much I came home to.

1484
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: I can't even believe.

1485
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 3: It's not great.

1486
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 2: So but let me get a little bit serious on

1487
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: you for a second. Right, you chose the noon time slot, right,

1488
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: and today we were efforting you for ten thirty. You

1489
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: came on eleven. No, we just you always seem to

1490
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: prefer the later timeslots. I'm just curious, like, what time

1491
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 2: did you go to bed last night and what time

1492
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: did you rise? Is that an okay?

1493
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 5: Question.

1494
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: No, yeah, you know, I don't go to bed before

1495
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: leg three.

1496
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: Well they're in lies the rub, does it?

1497
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: Not right?

1498
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: So you go to bed at three am?

1499
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? I tried.

1500
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 7: I try to be I try for two interested. I

1501
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 7: don't know my clock is my cicadium rhythm is just

1502
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 7: out of wag any help?

1503
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1504
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: Thankfully you didn't go to Sydney. What time is it

1505
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: in Sydney right now? Let's see it is three thirteen

1506
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: in the morning in Sydney on Wednesday. Yeah, so I'm

1507
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 2: feeling that a little bit. So let me ask you

1508
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 2: if I could, about your Paramount Plus view experience thus

1509
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 2: far and what UFC three twenty five was like for you. Raymond, right, yeah,

1510
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: I mean you just froze up on me. Oh, I'm sorry.

1511
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: I was asking you about UFC three twenty five and

1512
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: Paramount Plus and what your viewing experience was like. Kenny,

1513
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: are you hearing me?

1514
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 5: I am hearing you?

1515
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 3: Good? Yeah, all right, I think I'm hearing you.

1516
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: All right, you're hearing me, motherfucker you hearing me?

1517
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:39,879
Speaker 5: This guy man, this guy man. I mean, yes, WiFi

1518
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 5: is all over the place, hey.

1519
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: Cody, hey, ah, oh, it's kind of a good frozen visual.

1520
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 2: Hey Kenny, it's actually sort of funny because some people

1521
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 2: were suggested the Paramount Plus was freezing on them during

1522
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: some of the advertisements. How's your viewing experience been thus far, Kempluck.

1523
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 1: It's been great, man. I certainly haven't had any issues

1524
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: like I had with the s. It's easy to find

1525
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 1: when I press play, it actually plays. I don't have

1526
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: to re sign in all these dishes, so it's been

1527
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: It's been good for me. And also I like the

1528
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 1: adjustments with the you know, we got to see the walkouts,

1529
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: we got to see more of the corners talking.

1530
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 5: So I love that the UFC is hearing the feedback actually,

1531
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: you know, doing what the fans want, which is awesome.

1532
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you knew the UFC was not going to rest

1533
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: upon its laurels and make sure to affect change when

1534
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 2: it came to some of those commercials. Ray Pleasures.

1535
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't. I haven't heard the question, Johnny.

1536
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I was just asking about your viewing experience

1537
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus thus far so far.

1538
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I was at fights Saturday night, so

1539
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 7: I got home and saw everything late. They didn't make

1540
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 7: a couple of corrections. They think with some of the

1541
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 7: corner work they had maybe like a graphic of a

1542
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 7: commercial without having to listen to it, so it looks

1543
01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 7: like they're trending in the right direction. But yeah, I

1544
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 7: would say, like, but again, if Dana had complete control,

1545
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 7: this shit would have never happened. He because I think

1546
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 7: that's those are the things that he kind of built

1547
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 7: the company.

1548
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: On, you know what I mean.

1549
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, So relative to your expectations going into the fight,

1550
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on Volkanovski versus Lopez act too.

1551
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 7: I thought Volkanowski did a beautiful job. His footwork was

1552
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 7: on point. I thought Diego was going to win that fight.

1553
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 7: I think Volkanowski is, I don't know, what he's doing

1554
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 7: is unbelievable because to loser title, come back, you know,

1555
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 7: get knocked out a couple of times, he's you know,

1556
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 7: he pitched a perfect fight.

1557
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 3: So unbelievable performance by Volk.

1558
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 7: I thought, like again, to his footwork was beautifully kind

1559
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 7: of was beating him to the punch what I you know,

1560
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 7: so I sort of fight, you know at the gym technically,

1561
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 7: you know, Volk is folks amazing man.

1562
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: I didn't think he could do it like that. He

1563
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 3: did it so heads off to him.

1564
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: I am not sure there's been a demise that's been

1565
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: more greatly exaggerated Kenny than Volksman.

1566
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 9: Like I.

1567
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: You know, I know sometimes I'm insulated. I know I'm

1568
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: wrong a lot. But you know, when I heard people

1569
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,000
Speaker 2: talking about him retiring, and I know he's not of

1570
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: that mindset at all. I think if Diego Lopez knocked

1571
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 2: him clean out in round two, he'd still fight on,

1572
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 2: like there's so much fight left in this dog.

1573
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 3: You know.

1574
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: I understand that maybe he's lost a step in terms

1575
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: of the speed, but he can out iq a lot

1576
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 2: of these guys, and you know, he can still make

1577
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: the weight with relative ease. I don't know. I just

1578
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be very competitive.

1579
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: Oh I think so too, And but I would say,

1580
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: because he has been right, I think when he stops

1581
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,560
Speaker 1: being competitive, when he starts looking and going, you know,

1582
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: I would have beaten Lopez two years ago or whatever

1583
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: it is, whoever that challenge is, I think he will stop.

1584
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to, he doesn't need to fight. I

1585
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: think now that he's found, you know, a place that

1586
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: he can work on his farm, and he's got cooking

1587
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 1: with folk and all these other things. I think that's

1588
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 1: a that's a good sign that he can transition to

1589
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 1: that next life whenever he's ready.

1590
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,519
Speaker 5: But I don't think he is ready to retire.

1591
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: He's still competing with the best in the world and

1592
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: making it look easy against guys like Lopez.

1593
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,520
Speaker 5: The guy is an absolute freak.

1594
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: Man and making buckets of money. And he even said,

1595
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 2: if my next fight is at forty five, Like, if

1596
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: you don't think this guy would step up and fight

1597
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: on the White House lawn, if Laron Murphy or mobsor

1598
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: IVOIV isn't ready against one of these high profile lightweights

1599
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: on short notice or otherwise, I'm just telling you, man

1600
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: like Volk's a warrior. I just I mean, I you know,

1601
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: I almost want I don't want any fucking pets, right,

1602
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 2: but it's like I almost want to buy a dog

1603
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: to name it folk, although that would Yeah, So all right,

1604
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to get Ray Longo on his phone.

1605
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 6: Uh.

1606
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: We apologize for the technical difficulties during the Ray Longo minute.

1607
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 2: If you are a new viewer sometimes that is the

1608
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: case with uh with Ray shaking his head, Ray, why

1609
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: don't you just talk since you're hot?

1610
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, guy, what what was the question again, do by

1611
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 7: you were free freezing up? It was quick, No, it

1612
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 7: was something wait.

1613
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: Hold on said, no, let me ask you this. Oh

1614
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna freeze again.

1615
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: Hey frozen, Kenny, did he frozen?

1616
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 5: He's there, he's there, he's there. Yeah, I think it's

1617
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 5: your WiFi, my man.

1618
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: No, So you know what, no, what So here's the thing.

1619
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: We're going to pay to get Ray a second WiFi

1620
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: at his house.

1621
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: He is.

1622
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: You need to backup WiFi. Get this guy hardwired. I mean,

1623
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: you know, you got to prioritize the star of the show.

1624
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 2: We worked the time slot.

1625
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 5: Around him and get him a stylink.

1626
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1627
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: I really was going to ask him, though I know

1628
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: he's not objective, but about al Jo's chances against Bull

1629
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: because certainly some fans would scoff if you were suggestive

1630
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: that that's a super fight, and I'm not, you know,

1631
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 2: but to me, champion versus champion in any respect is

1632
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean like Davison Figuretto and pyoder Jan didn't feel

1633
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: like a super fight. But I excuse me, Davison Figuretto, Yeah,

1634
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: well they but but there wasn't a belt on the line,

1635
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? So I don't know, I mean,

1636
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: I think that would qualify as a really big fight.

1637
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. We'll see a Volca fights at

1638
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: fifty five at some point in the not too distant future.

1639
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about Quill and sal

1640
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: killed bro you know, yeah, grappler first, striker second or whatever,

1641
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, but just sort of you know, these kids

1642
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,519
Speaker 2: from Australia who sort of you know, cut their teeth

1643
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: with mixing the martial arts, and so much younger than

1644
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,560
Speaker 2: individuals like you and me, and uh, really fascinating to

1645
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 2: see just how far Quill and Salkild can take this.

1646
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,879
Speaker 2: You know, he's got support of good brands like Full Violence.

1647
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: Ray is that you sell your telephone?

1648
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 3: Yes, it's my cell phone, beautiful.

1649
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to ask you if I could,

1650
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 2: and I know our time is probably short. So al

1651
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 2: Jamaine Sterling versus Alexander Volkanovsky, I think is a really

1652
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 2: interesting fight. Certainly it seems like he's gonna wait for

1653
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: the winner of MAV sorry Ivloyev and Laren Murphy. You know,

1654
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: but I actually said earlier that if I had to

1655
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 2: send one guy in there to beat volk Right now,

1656
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: I think Volk's still so good in present for him

1657
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: at thirty seven that I might send in al Joe

1658
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: just because I feel like he could find a finish

1659
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 2: even if he could could now point him over five rounds.

1660
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I mean, look, al Jo's al Joseph

1661
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 3: problem for anybody, and I tell you yeah.

1662
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: A Nate just wrote in our private chat his wife

1663
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: doesn't work.

1664
01:21:56,680 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 7: He's getting a long layoff, which I don't think you want.

1665
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 7: Well what we put this here?

1666
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, but no, I think al Joe they should

1667
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 3: be given al Jo.

1668
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 7: A lot of matchups in this division, but obviously, uh,

1669
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 7: they're looking to freeze him out.

1670
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know, but he deserves Uh, he deserves.

1671
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: A good opponent looking to freeze him out. No pun intended, Huh,

1672
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean he can't make it up. Nate wrote in

1673
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: our private chat his WIFEI doesn't work until one pm Easter.

1674
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: You know, hey, Ray, I was asking my kids this morning,

1675
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 2: would you rather give up your phone or only wear

1676
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: crocs for the rest of your life?

1677
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 3: Uh? Would I rather give up my phone? Is that

1678
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: a good? Would you rather? Even? Would I rather give up?

1679
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 3: So you're you're I'd wear the crocs? For the rest

1680
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 3: of my.

1681
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,759
Speaker 2: Life, Kenny, I would rather give up my cell phone

1682
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: than have to wear fucking crocs for the rest of

1683
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: my life. I know Blow Muhammad, former disputed wel toweight champion,

1684
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 2: would be fine with the crocs, Kenny. Would you rather

1685
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: give up give up your phone or only wear crocs

1686
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life?

1687
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I would give up my phone. I want to,

1688
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 5: I want to, but I can't wait.

1689
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, what across those open, open tod shoes for

1690
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: the most parts.

1691
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like my dogs breathe, and I'll take the crocs.

1692
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 2: So I mentioned earlier Ray that I was doing a

1693
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Q and a sort of an appearance in Sydney, and

1694
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: one of the fans asked, if you asked Joshua Van

1695
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 2: and Carlos Protests, if you were in a street fight

1696
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: and you could bring two UFC fighters with you, who

1697
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: would you bring? And then another fan question. They asked,

1698
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: Joshua Van and Carlos protest, if you were in a

1699
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: street fight and you could bring one fighter from your division,

1700
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: who would you bring? And uh, I think protests, said

1701
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: Michael Morales. And the two of them in the street

1702
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 2: would certainly be for us. As Joshuavan said, I'll fight

1703
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 2: him all myself, you know, But yeah, Ray, I mean,

1704
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 2: I just I am absolutely fascinated with this French Special

1705
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Air Force operator Ben Wassantadi. You know you have to

1706
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: kill him. You gotta kill him. You kill him. I know,

1707
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm on would be like five to one against him,

1708
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 2: but you still have to kill the matter. You're not

1709
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna beat it, you know.

1710
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, Seroukian's a really bad matchup for him. But uh yes,

1711
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. Like again, not the most technical guy,

1712
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 7: but nobody's got a bigger heart and determination in this

1713
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 7: guy like he had.

1714
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 10: He did what he had to do.

1715
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: He stays on the outside of that fight.

1716
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 7: He's gonna get picked apart, even if you have to

1717
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 7: bum rush him, even if it's sloppy going in.

1718
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 3: You can't take no for an answer. And that's what

1719
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: he does.

1720
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 7: He did it with Rufie, did it with uh with Hooker,

1721
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,480
Speaker 7: And these are guys that that could cheap on the outside,

1722
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 7: very rangey fighters, and he finds a way of busting

1723
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 7: if all the guys that are sitting around on the

1724
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 7: outside hesitate when do I go with? Sometimes man, it's like,

1725
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 7: ca do you handle an ambush. Can you got to

1726
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 7: run right through it, baby, just go out, you know

1727
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 7: what I mean. And that's what he does. And you know, eventually,

1728
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 7: I'm sure he'll get caught. But for right now, he's

1729
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 7: winning fights on a big set of brass fucking balls.

1730
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 3: Man.

1731
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 7: See, you could see he was relentless in that fight,

1732
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 7: trying to get hooked down.

1733
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 2: So, yes, twenty seven degrees in Garden City, New York.

1734
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to give away your exact location,

1735
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 2: norsciocid Oyster Bay Cove. Fucking twenty seven degrees. It's freezing

1736
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 2: out there.

1737
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: So watching me right now?

1738
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 2: What is that verb? I don't recognize that verb?

1739
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 5: Docs, Ye, tell her where they're from.

1740
01:25:55,240 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 2: I heard Kenny would literally Kenny would kill me if

1741
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: I doxed him, you know, no, seriously, like Kenny and

1742
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: I are like friends, right, Like I know I didn't

1743
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: get the late groomsman called. By the way, Kenny needed

1744
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 2: a replacement groomsman Ray late in the game, and he

1745
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: fucking shows Kurt Pellegrino over me.

1746
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 3: No wait, wait was he in your wedding?

1747
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 5: Yea last man of replacement?

1748
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 8: Not?

1749
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean, certainly you don't. I initially extend the.

1750
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: Invite I had.

1751
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 5: I had to have John in his strengths.

1752
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: He ended up he was he announced us entering into

1753
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: the you know who was gonna Kurt Pellegrina wasn't gonna

1754
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,799
Speaker 1: announce us into the you know John utilized his strength,

1755
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: but I would.

1756
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 5: Have had him in both roles if I could.

1757
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 2: Hell wow and if you want to smoke from Ray

1758
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: Long ago, Ray Long goes MMA one Commercial Avenue in

1759
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 2: Gorden City, New York.

1760
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 5: This is the way we walk in New York.

1761
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Right, I got my first ONYX Vinyl. Actually in the

1762
01:26:58,840 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: other room.

1763
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 3: Is he Kenny? Kenny? Is he getting even with me

1764
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 3: right now?

1765
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 5: Right now?

1766
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: No, he's not.

1767
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 7: He's tried to live and I tried to live and

1768
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 7: the show up at the beginning, and now this is

1769
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 7: this is the payback I get.

1770
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 2: You tried to live in the show up. I mean,

1771
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: we're just being ourselves.

1772
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 3: Here, Ray, Yeah. Today we off for sure great to have.

1773
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Everybody with us live. Addition to the Anti Conforming Podcast,

1774
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: every edition is live. Hopefully you are back on the

1775
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 2: Anti Conflorm podcast YouTube channel. We appreciate you subscribing. We

1776
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: haven't been on that channel in several years. Very excited

1777
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 2: to be back. You can also find us on All

1778
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 2: the Smoke Fight Raymond, go ahead, Uh, I.

1779
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 7: Just wanted to shout out three of my fighters. We

1780
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 7: had a great weekend. No fight went the distance. Joe

1781
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 7: Casey made his amateur kickboxing debut second round knockout, check Gate.

1782
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna turn pro next. He submitted the guy in

1783
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 3: the first round. Beautiful fight.

1784
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 7: Ryan Lopez made his professional m m A debut with

1785
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 7: a second round TK over a tough guy. Tough kid

1786
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 7: out of Dante Rivera's really good fights and everybody everybody

1787
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 7: showed up in forts.

1788
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 3: Just want to shout out the guys.

1789
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:09,679
Speaker 7: Because we are expanding the gym, John, so we're looking

1790
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 7: for in the future.

1791
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 3: It's freaking goes right.

1792
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 2: Well, we are certainly happy to be a conduit to

1793
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: help that initiative. Ray Would you rather be famous or rich?

1794
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 3: Rich?

1795
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1796
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean imagine answering famous.

1797
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1798
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 2: My son's like, Dad, you're famous. I was like, yeah,

1799
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: I'd rather be rich. I was like, I'm a lot

1800
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: more famous in Australia.

1801
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: He just said, son, Yeah, I'm famous, And where'd that.

1802
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: Get me famous? In Austria? Say, I'm a lot more

1803
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: famous in Australia than the United States. Ray, would you rather?

1804
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 3: Ray?

1805
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 2: Would you rather live in a treehouse or an underwater castle?

1806
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 3: Oh? I'd love to live in a treouse. I want

1807
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 3: to live in a treos. Now go ahead.

1808
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 2: Who's fucking stopping you?

1809
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 7: I'm not really sure, but I think the minus twelve

1810
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 7: degrees might have a little something to do with it.

1811
01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 5: You could, you don't have You don't have any key

1812
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:11,520
Speaker 5: in your house anyway.

1813
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 3: You know, Kenny, guys, the guy's on fire. Now what

1814
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: else do you guys? Say?

1815
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 5: Go ahead? No one's telling me.

1816
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, wife can't wait to send you out

1817
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 2: to the fucking treehouse got out of Oh and Ray,

1818
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: we know you have a new hip. Would you rather

1819
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,919
Speaker 2: have to hop everywhere or crawl everywhere?

1820
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 3: Jesus, I'd rather hop everywhere. Ray.

1821
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 2: I don't really have anything else for you unless you, uh,

1822
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Mario Baptista and Venicius Olivera

1823
01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 2: and what is going to be an absolutely explosive UFC

1824
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 2: BANDA white A event this weekend. But you know, we

1825
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 2: hope you have no I cut you off. I mean

1826
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 2: hope you have a great day at a better evening,

1827
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 2: my man, I'll give you a parting shot.

1828
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 7: You know, I think that said fight looks like it

1829
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 7: will be fireworks. Those are two. That's that's gonna be

1830
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 7: a great fight. But I think that's about it.

1831
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 3: Do you uh?

1832
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 2: Do you plan to watch the Super Bowl? Or does

1833
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: your NFL boycott dating to the Colin Kaepernick thing continue?

1834
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 3: Fucking super Bowl? Standard? Chance? I don't even know way.

1835
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 3: First off, who's in the super Bowl?

1836
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:47,639
Speaker 2: The Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots.

1837
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 3: And Patriots are back again? Wow? Yeah it should be.

1838
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: I had a nightmare on the plane ride that the

1839
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills had beat the Patriots thirty one thirty in

1840
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. I don't remember a lot of

1841
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: my dreams. Ray, you don't care about this? Why don't

1842
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: you you can go?

1843
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

1844
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 2: No, I you know I feel bad. I don't ever want.

1845
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 3: Tonoy you sure. I'm sure everybody wants to hear about.

1846
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 3: Everybody's hanging on by the edge of the seat. Where John?

1847
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 8: What?

1848
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 3: What? What? What'd you dream?

1849
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 8: God?

1850
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 3: Ah?

1851
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 7: You know, Kenny, I had a glass of water with

1852
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 7: my breakfast, Kenny, if anybody is you know, Kenny, what

1853
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 7: time I peeled the banana? I don't really remember it,

1854
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 7: but uh.

1855
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 3: And I peeled it. Yeah, John, that was your dream.

1856
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 3: You had a dream that you had a dream that

1857
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:49,920
Speaker 3: the Patriots lost to the Bills.

1858
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm crying over here.

1859
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 4: Anything go else, anything else, a king, any other dream?

1860
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,639
Speaker 4: Gosh al right.

1861
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 2: Here two four on all executive decisions involving the Ana

1862
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 2: and Florent podcasts. Have a great day and a better

1863
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: evening that I think I just got it out. Yeah,

1864
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 2: you did ray long home minute every week here on

1865
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 2: the Anak and Florent podcast, dating to episode one in

1866
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: April of twenty fifteen, if you do care, right, So,

1867
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: the Patriots score a touchdown in my dream in the

1868
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: final second of the game, and they go for two

1869
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 2: to try to win thirty two thirty one, and they

1870
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 2: throw the ball to an offensive lineman who is past

1871
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 2: catch eligible on the play. This is my goddamn dream,

1872
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: right number seventy four catches the ball and then he's

1873
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 2: in quicksand and he can't move, and I'm dream and

1874
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, the end zones there, Josh mcdanni's has

1875
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: the perfect play call, and you're just gonna fucking stand there.

1876
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 2: You got money on Buffalo and I wake up thinking that,

1877
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 2: you know, all these tickets I had on the bills

1878
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 2: to win the AFC would have cashed and instead it

1879
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: was just a dream or a nightmare as it were.

1880
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 2: In the Patriots will represent the American Football Conference in

1881
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: the in the Super Bowl.

1882
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 5: That's amazing.

1883
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 1: In case you didn't know, John Annik was a fanatical

1884
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 1: sports fan, there you go evidence.

1885
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 2: If by chance we have audio or Wi Fi issues

1886
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: with Ian Parker, my tolerance and patience level for them

1887
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 2: will not be particularly high. So we may have do

1888
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: table our main event challenge for later in the week.

1889
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,560
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Speaker 2: against the Seahawks Pats four and a half point underdogs

1900
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Speaker 2: right now. Gonna be interesting to see this Jackson Smith

1901
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1902
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Speaker 2: there meta Apex, the Ducky and Parker's with us Ian.

1925
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 2: Good Monday to you. What's the word?

1926
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what.

1927
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 6: I'm upset that Kenny's not getting a birth paid. That

1928
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 6: would have been a really great way to come back

1929
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Speaker 6: to the show. I think you would have looked fantastic

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01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 6: with the Diego Lopez esh Maine. I want to say

1931
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 6: thank you to Diego Lopez for doing absolutely nothing different

1932
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 6: than switching your stance from the first fight to make

1933
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 6: me look incredibly stupid with my breakdown. But uh at

1934
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 6: talented Tosha, thank you for not being able to finish

1935
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 6: in goddamn sandwich.

1936
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 8: Other than that, happy Monday.

1937
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: Let's go ah No, I think that's a good way

1938
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 2: to assess things. I know a lot of us maybe

1939
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 2: felt like Diego Lopez might have bridged gap a little bit,

1940
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 2: and they just didn't make the requisite adjustments, and uh,

1941
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,799
Speaker 2: we'll see where Diego goes from here. You know, sometimes

1942
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: I feel like when I do my hot yoga classes,

1943
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 2: I have the worst footwork in the class, you know,

1944
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 2: and I have narrow feet right, which doesn't necessarily lend

1945
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: itself to the practice. But yeah, I just feel like

1946
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: Diego Lopez his feet. You know, sometimes you get a

1947
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: lot of great intel being octagon side and his foot

1948
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 2: his feet just all over the place, and now they're

1949
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: sort of fractured, you know.

1950
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't even touching your throat this time.

1951
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 6: So I was like, oh, he made that correction. He

1952
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 6: didn't touch his throat, but he can't well.

1953
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 2: See why, see why you can't bang on him for touch?

1954
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 2: Do you know the backstory with the throat or do

1955
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 2: you mean?

1956
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 6: But you know, yeah, I know you you told me

1957
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 6: last time, and I know d he said something about

1958
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 6: it as well, and you actually told the story again.

1959
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 8: I'm just making it a pretty probably bad joke because

1960
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 8: all the adjustments that he made. He didn't do this once.

1961
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 2: You're right, No, you you're you're actually it's at a

1962
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: stute point I know you're he one time at at

1963
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: the very start of a round he did and then

1964
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: he really he's he's breaking the habit because just like

1965
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 2: Benson Henderson fixing his hair right, you can throw a

1966
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: jab in the time it takes you to go to

1967
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 2: your neck.

1968
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1969
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad he broke that habit.

1970
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 8: Out of all super Job Diego, you know what I

1971
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 8: loved and I loved Diego. I just what throws me

1972
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 8: off and I'll leave it at this. And I'm and

1973
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 8: I'm sure Kenny could probably piggyback.

1974
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 6: This, but like it's like he fights Vulk or he

1975
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 6: gets in this title fight, he just forgets what got

1976
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 6: him there. I mean, you would have thought after he

1977
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 6: was able to take the back at the end of

1978
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,120
Speaker 6: that round, it's like, oh, maybe I should set up

1979
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 6: some striking to try and steal the round because the

1980
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,000
Speaker 6: rounds weren't like overly dominant other side where one or

1981
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 6: two things couldn't have maybe swung the round.

1982
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,679
Speaker 8: I mean, he's just really unfortunate to see.

1983
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 6: He's a fun he's a fun fighter, great guy, good personality,

1984
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 6: someone that can always you know, people are gonna want

1985
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 6: to watch forever. But it's like, maybe he just won't

1986
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 6: ever be champion because he just gets stuck in that,

1987
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 6: you know, gets stuck in the mud when it's time

1988
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 6: performing in the light.

1989
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, Kenny, I mean he did come

1990
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: to the UFC with five or six losses. He lost

1991
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: to Joe Anderson Brito on Dana White's Contender series. Maybe

1992
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 2: a guy just does maximize his utility.

1993
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 3: I do.

1994
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,560
Speaker 2: I know we got to move on Kenny, but I

1995
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,680
Speaker 2: do agree with some of what he's saying. You know,

1996
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 2: in a round in which they are ninety seconds to go,

1997
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 2: that you're losing, right. I know, you can't steal around

1998
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: and we learned that acutely earlier with Dan Tom, But

1999
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,839
Speaker 2: why not try to see if you can offensively wrestle?

2000
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 3: Right?

2001
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: It just seemed like there wasn't desperation, and you know,

2002
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 2: the competitive spirit was there, but you know, mixed in

2003
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,720
Speaker 2: with I think way too much sort of respect for

2004
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 2: the champion.

2005
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, I think listen to a lot

2006
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 1: of these things you kind of need to earn and

2007
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: it takes time to learn. And I think that that's

2008
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: why I said it before. You know, he's still a

2009
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 1: developing fighter. Now we all are, we're all trying to

2010
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: get better as fighters. Obviously it's not necessarily a destination

2011
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 1: why it never ends ever ends. But you know, I

2012
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:04,719
Speaker 1: think he needed more time. That That's what I blame

2013
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: more than anything else. I think he needed more time

2014
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: to develop and it just wasn't there. And again Volkanowski,

2015
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn good.

2016
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 3: All right.

2017
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,439
Speaker 2: UFC Fight Night Bautista versus Olivera live this weekend on

2018
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 2: Paramount Plus. First pick for us. On the main card,

2019
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: ip at Vandamwaight Farred Basharat minus two ninety eight. I

2020
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 2: always think of fucking Bert Bacharak when I say Farret

2021
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: Bashat Bashrat Monust two ninety eight. Jean Matsumoto plus two forty.

2022
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: Basharat's older brother JAVIDI and as you well know, is

2023
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 2: also in the UFC, and on the card, Farred would

2024
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 2: appear to have the higher ceiling of the two brothers.

2025
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 2: He's fourteen and oh after win over Chris Gudierras at

2026
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 2: UFC three twenty last year, what are your thoughts on him?

2027
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: In about three to one for him against matsu Moto.

2028
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know.

2029
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 6: I think the odds are a little bit wide here,

2030
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 6: so betting that you're gonna have to get creative. However,

2031
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 6: where I like him in this fight is his fight, IQ,

2032
01:39:54,960 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 6: because Matsimoto is like a very organized, chaotic.

2033
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 8: And durable guy, and he's gonna keep coming forward. If

2034
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 8: you don't keep him on his back, he's gonna get

2035
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 8: back up.

2036
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,640
Speaker 6: I mean, you shaw on the Rob Fonk fight, right,

2037
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 6: So it's he is somebody that it's just very difficult

2038
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 6: to put away.

2039
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 8: But I think this is the younger Basharat. In the beginning,

2040
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:17,839
Speaker 8: I thought the other one had the higher.

2041
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 5: Stealing until right as of late right, I thought the other.

2042
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 6: One was a little bit more of a dominant You

2043
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 6: could see him fighting up the ranks quicker. But this

2044
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,800
Speaker 6: one in that last fight was so impressive to me,

2045
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 6: just how smart he was to not get away from

2046
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:31,360
Speaker 6: the game plan.

2047
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 8: And I think, here, this is gonna be a jab

2048
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 8: jab takedown. Stay there. It's not gonna be pretty. He can't.

2049
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,760
Speaker 6: He's not gonna let Masimoto be the Tasmanian devil and

2050
01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 6: make this ugly.

2051
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 8: He's gonna make this very He might make this boring,

2052
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 8: but I do think he wins.

2053
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be grapple heavy, he's gonna have

2054
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 6: to stay on top, and he's got Cardio very good

2055
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 6: card to match Massimoto's crazy engine as well.

2056
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 8: So I like Bashrat in this one.

2057
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny basher at a thinking man's fighter, the Brazilian

2058
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Masimoto seventeen and one only man to beat him. Of course,

2059
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,559
Speaker 2: Rob font By split That was last February, a fight

2060
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 2: he took on short notice, by the way, then he

2061
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 2: responded split decision went over Miles John's in August Tapologies

2062
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 2: proprietary ranking system has Matsumoto number twenty eight, Bash are

2063
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: at number thirty. So good matchmaking here, Ken Flow. Who

2064
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: do you love?

2065
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, two guys with awesome records.

2066
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: Matsumoto very good grappler, really kind of a spark plug

2067
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: out there when he fights, you know, likes that high

2068
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: pressure style game. I think he'll need that, But I

2069
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: agree you and I think he does need to make

2070
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:36,640
Speaker 1: this a bit chaotic. I think that will kind of

2071
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 1: help him to win this fight. So the uglier this fight,

2072
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 1: the better it is for Matsumoto. Now, the cleaner and

2073
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,639
Speaker 1: more technical the fight is, obviously that's going to favor

2074
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: the other bash brother, Fared Basharat. So I think this

2075
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: guy again, this is a testament to how damn good

2076
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,719
Speaker 1: this bantamweight division is. He has a lot of skill,

2077
01:41:57,280 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a lot of skill. This is someone to watch. I

2078
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 1: truly think this is a guy who could potentially be

2079
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 1: a champion in the future. I think he's that good,

2080
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: he's that smart, he's that season does see a guy

2081
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 1: with fourteen fights fight with the level of intelligence and

2082
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:15,200
Speaker 1: technique that this guy has. I was thoroughly impressed. I

2083
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: think this is Bachelot's fight to lose. I think he

2084
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,879
Speaker 1: wins this one. I think he will be more technical.

2085
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I think he will be leading the dance and Matsmoto

2086
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:24,720
Speaker 1: is not going to have enough for him.

2087
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 3: All right.

2088
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Next up middleweight division, the oncoming Mikhal Oleakshajik Monas three

2089
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 2: sixty Mark Andre Barrio plus two eighty five olok Shijk

2090
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 2: from Poland now trains in sal Palla with the fighting Nerds.

2091
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: Still only thirty, but he's fought seventeen times in the UFC.

2092
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 2: Good strength of schedule. Across his seven UFC losses, there

2093
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:45,160
Speaker 2: are seven of them, but recently and he's won two

2094
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:48,639
Speaker 2: straight against guys he should beat. I guess Sadriquis Dumas,

2095
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: Gerald Mershark both first round two. KOs Now he is

2096
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 2: north of three to one against power Bar.

2097
01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:57,639
Speaker 6: Your thoughts, all, right, So I will say that power

2098
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 6: Bar has a path to victory here.

2099
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 8: Wrestle take him down and don't be sloppy.

2100
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 6: However, he's not gonna do that, just for whatever reason,

2101
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 6: like because I know his coach Daniel Mendez very well.

2102
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:12,600
Speaker 8: He's with a good camp. He's got a lot of

2103
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 8: good guys there, and it's just he's one of these

2104
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 8: guys that goes into the fight and it's like oops,

2105
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 8: by the time he figures out what's going on, he's asleep.

2106
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 8: Because he is a talented guy.

2107
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 3: You know.

2108
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 8: When he came from the Canadian team, everyone loved him.

2109
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 6: He was a big prospect, right, and he did well

2110
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 6: until he got knocked out by Jokani, and it's just

2111
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 6: he just forgets. And I think Mihaile at this point

2112
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,560
Speaker 6: has kind of figured out I got to keep the

2113
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 6: fight standing. This fight's not going over one and a

2114
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 6: half rounds, and I think he's gonna get another knockout here.

2115
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:43,559
Speaker 3: He's just got to.

2116
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 6: Stuff those early takedowns really quick. I think, to your point, John,

2117
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:49,639
Speaker 6: this is another one he's supposed to win. I think

2118
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 6: at some point that's gonna come to an end when

2119
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 6: he fights someone who wrestled one time in seventh grade.

2120
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 6: So for you right now, I'm gonna I'm gonna take

2121
01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 6: him to probably get an early knockout in round one.

2122
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 8: It wouldn't shot me at all.

2123
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, laid out as usual. Power bar Barrio. I mean,

2124
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 2: you gotta love the nickname power Bar. Maybe make some

2125
01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: T shirts. By the way, Cameron Rouston, what'd you say?

2126
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:12,840
Speaker 5: I said?

2127
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 8: Or protein kind of sounds like a snack to me

2128
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 8: as well.

2129
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 5: It is it is, It is actual, an actual bar.

2130
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:19,640
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's still around, but they had

2131
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 5: a power bar.

2132
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2133
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 2: Is Ian that much younger than us that he wouldn't

2134
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 2: remember power Bar?

2135
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2136
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 3: Four.

2137
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 8: I just turned forty, so not that yeah younger, No.

2138
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 2: You are. I'm forty seven. That's why you haven't heard

2139
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 2: of power bar because you are that much younger than us. Yeah,

2140
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: but I love the nickname power bar Barrio. But you

2141
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,760
Speaker 2: know Cameron Rouston who just won this weekend the six

2142
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 2: foot three inch middleweight. I believe of him, love him.

2143
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 2: His nickname used to be the Battle giraffe Did you

2144
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 2: hear me talking about I couldn't even focus on the fight.

2145
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm to focus on my fucking battle draft T shirts.

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01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 6: The minute you said that on the air, all I

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01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 6: could think about was a baby giraffe when they're born

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01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 6: and their legs are going wild, and like he's like,

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Speaker 6: you know, because that that's that's such a good nickname

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01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 6: for him. If you guys who are like weird, nicknames

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01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 6: fit perfectly. John, when you said that, I was like,

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01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 6: holy shit, that's incredible.

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01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 2: Has anyone ever googled like two giraffes fighting, cranking each

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01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 2: other's necks.

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01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 5: It's insane.

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01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 2: And I know people are gonna minimize this show right

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01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 2: now and open another window and watch two giraffes going

2158
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 2: at it. I know you will. But if you're trying

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01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 2: to resonate with people, I know Mario Bautista, who will

2160
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 2: get to doesn't want to be super Mario right because

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01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:32,240
Speaker 2: it's you know, I get it, battle born Batista sounds

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01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:33,960
Speaker 2: cool or you at least need a nickname. But if

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01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 2: your Cameron roused it, right, I mean, so he's from

2164
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:38,840
Speaker 2: a nation that loves this stuff. But dude, like print

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01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: the Battle Giraffe T shirts.

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01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 3: What do you do? Not question?

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01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 8: Not even a question.

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Speaker 2: So Power Barbario, Kenny, I don't think I've gotten a

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01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: pick from you on this one. He is bonus in

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01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 2: two straight knock out a Bruno Silvan Montreal Friday Night

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01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 2: with sharl Bullet Nabu Dabi last July, but he has

2172
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 2: lost four of five. I don't know if he's fighting

2173
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 2: for his job because there aren't that many Canadian talents

2174
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 2: out there, but a loss here would be five of

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01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 2: six for Power bar what he had for us on

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01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 2: this one.

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01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be a tough loss.

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01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 1: And I think that Barrio is a very exciting fighter.

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01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: I think athletically he's he's pretty impressive man. But he's

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01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: going against a guy in olox Seyschuk, who I think

2181
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: is you know, he's favorite for a reason.

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be the better, more technical striker.

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01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: I think Barrio has a shot if it kind of

2184
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: they're just kind of throwing down, Maybe he can land one.

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01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 1: I think he's powerful enough to get the ko. But

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01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: Alex se Chuk, I just think is the better fighter

2187
01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: in this one. I think he could stop the takedowns here.

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01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,240
Speaker 1: I like the fact that he's gone out of his

2189
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 1: training camps in Poland to train in Brazil and get

2190
01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 1: better with the fighting nerds. I think that's a great sign.

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01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,800
Speaker 1: I think his brother doing well in the UFC is

2192
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: a good sign. I think going to motivate him there.

2193
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:56,839
Speaker 1: So I like Alexei Chuck in this matchup.

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01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Next up, feature about It. Heavyweight six

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Speaker 2: ranked Jai Jilton Malya, Genio Almeida minus one forty eight,

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01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Rismond Kuoniev is plus one twenty four. So Ian Almada

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01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: started six and zero in the ufcuh he's lost two

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Speaker 2: of his last four. Lost to Alexander Volkov by split

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Speaker 2: decision at UFC three twenty one last October. That up

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01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 2: ended his momentum after a couple of straight wins. Stepping in,

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01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 2: I guess on relatively short notice here for Ryan Span,

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01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 2: what do you make of al Meda and Kuniev at heavyweight?

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01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 3: My brother? Oh god, what.

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01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 5: Are we gonna do with you?

2205
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 6: Bro?

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01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,879
Speaker 8: You know, how do you lose that fight with Volkov?

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01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 6: And all you got to do is throw a few

2208
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 6: extra punches, maybe sneeze on the guy, just something right,

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Speaker 6: and it's like, now, my concern for him is that

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01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 6: the UFC said if you don't start standing up and

2211
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 6: not being born, we're gonna get rid of you. And

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01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 6: if he stands up against this guy, he's gonna lose

2213
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,480
Speaker 6: because arguably his opponent.

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01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 8: Beat Curtis Blades in that last fight.

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Speaker 6: You know, I've seen Konia for a while when you

2216
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 6: know he did some stuff in the PFL. He beat

2217
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 6: Hi on Ferira even though he was a little juicy

2218
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 6: juice at the time. You know, I say, let the

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01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 6: heavyweight juice who cares at this point, right, Let's let's

2220
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 6: make it more fun. Let's make it more violent the

2221
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,600
Speaker 6: way they were fighting. But you know, I'll keep this

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01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 6: short and sweet. Almina should be able to take him down.

2223
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 6: He should be able to kind of implement that game.

2224
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 6: It wouldn't shock me if this went into round two,

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01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,479
Speaker 6: round three. Kuni is a tough guy to finish, even

2226
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 6: on top. I think he's defensively sound enough.

2227
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 8: But Almina's I got Yeah, I don't. I don't love it,

2228
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 8: but you know he's the better of the two.

2229
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if they let the heavyweights juice.

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01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 5: Out of it?

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01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,640
Speaker 6: Behind the scenes, no, like behind the scenes, like if

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01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 6: someone's back there doing the interview with him, as he's

2234
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 6: getting the needle like literally in the back.

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01:48:55,160 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 2: Right, konieb if you don't know that, loan PFL appearance

2236
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 2: was a win over hen and Fajita, but it was

2237
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 2: overturned to a no contest after a positive test for

2238
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 2: a banned substance. Konief Kenny out of mahash Kala, Russia,

2239
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 2: split decision, lost to Curtis Blade's last June in the

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Speaker 2: UFC debut that was in Azerbaijan. He is the slight

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01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: underdog here against Malia Genio.

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01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and interestingly enough, Henon Fajita now is one of

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01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:25,640
Speaker 1: his main training partners over to American Top Team and

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01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: Koniev I think is going to be a much better

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01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 1: fighter than when I first saw him over in the PFL.

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01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be easy to take down.

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01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 1: I think Jilton Almeida could potentially take him down because

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01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: of his athleticism and stuff like that, but I don't

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01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 1: think he's the most technical wrestler in the world. And

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Speaker 1: I also think he doesn't have a whole lot of

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01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: confidence in his conditioning, and I would attribute that to

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01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 1: why he wasn't so aggressive on the ground with his

2253
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: grounded pound and I don't think it has to do

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01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:55,479
Speaker 1: with him maybe being more exciting on the feet. I

2255
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: think he just needs to be more aggressive, and I

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01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,680
Speaker 1: don't think he has a whole lot of confidence in

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01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: his conditioning to do that. That's not a great sign.

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01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,720
Speaker 1: I think he's got a ton of talent. But I

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01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 1: like Kuniev as a spoiler in this fight. I don't

2260
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 1: think al made It's gonna have an easy time taking

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01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,640
Speaker 1: him down, and once he starts to lose confidence.

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Speaker 5: I think that's where Kuniev is gonna take over.

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01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if Kuniev is gonna stop

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01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: him necessarily, but I like Kuniev for the upset here.

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01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,360
Speaker 2: And Kuniev was born in Dugistan. If you are wondering, Yes,

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01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 2: fight rights out of Makaskala, but a lot of great

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01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,880
Speaker 2: roots there, all right. Comin event flyweight division eighth rank,

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01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 2: Kyogi Horgucci minus three to sixty Number six Amral Bosi

2269
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 2: is plus two eighty five, so Horgucci Kenny goes seven

2270
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: to one. During his first UFC stint, only lost to

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01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,759
Speaker 2: Dimitriz Johnson for the title. Then he wins sixteen fights

2272
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 2: outside of the UFC returns in November in Katar, promptly

2273
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: submits to Girulan Bekov gets a bonus now spinning it

2274
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,639
Speaker 2: forward near four to one against top rank contender Miral Bosi.

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01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 2: As we wait on Ian's connection can flow, we will

2276
01:50:56,840 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 2: kick off the Komin event with you.

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01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

2278
01:50:59,080 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 5: Listen?

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 1: I think Horror Gucci is a damn problem on his speed,

2280
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 1: his footwork, his ability to be a much better grappler

2281
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: now that he's back in the UFC, and all that

2282
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 1: experience that he's accrued over the last few years I

2283
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: think has served him very very well. All Bosi in

2284
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: his last fight against Brandon Moreno, did not look good.

2285
01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's, you know, an injury that

2286
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: has plagued him. I don't know if his confidence is

2287
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: shot or whatever it is. But all BOSSI just looks

2288
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: a little bit different to me, and I don't think

2289
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: he has the athleticism to deal with someone like Horr Gucci.

2290
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I think if he's able to find success with his

2291
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 1: grappling and nullify Horra Gucci on the ground, I think

2292
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: he can win this. I just don't think he's going

2293
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: to be capable of dealing with the speed and the

2294
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,519
Speaker 1: overall striking of the Japanese fighter.

2295
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 5: So give me Horror Gucci.

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01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: Main event challenge here live on the Anticanploran podcast. I'm

2297
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 2: going to make an executive decision and go forward to

2298
01:51:55,240 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 2: the main event here. In the bantamweight division, ninth ranked

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01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Mario Bautista modest on ninety two, number eleven. Venesius Olivera

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01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 2: is plus one sixty So I I love Mario Bautista.

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01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:09,639
Speaker 2: Made a couple of mistakes against Umar, but he fought

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01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 2: really well. He's well versed, great cardio, high fight IQ,

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01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 2: great camp. He had won eight in a row before

2304
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: the loss to Umar. I love that he's getting the

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01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:22,000
Speaker 2: main event. On the other side of the uber entertaining

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01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 2: lock dog Vensius Olivera, I'm I'm all in on this

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01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 2: main event. Fascinated to hear your handicap ipe.

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01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 3: Good, yeah, my bad.

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01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 6: The Landscaping Company shows, let's a knockout a cord to

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01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 6: my studio, and so that's gonna be a fun thing

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01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 6: to fix las.

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01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 2: Time, all right, So you know, just why not at

2313
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 2: this time, right of course?

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01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's also like twenty eighth degrees in Florida.

2315
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 8: Just everything's all sorts of weird right now. So all right.

2316
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,160
Speaker 6: This is so interesting here because I think Olivera is

2317
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 6: the type of guy who could really disrupt a lot

2318
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 6: of people's flow. He is just as weird, he's big,

2319
01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 6: he keeps moving forward. That's tay Or May the Metal

2320
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 6: Fight was very impressed of how his car.

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01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 8: I mean not that Normaka Beta was known for his cardio,

2322
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 8: but very tough fighter, especially when he gets submissions in there.

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01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 6: However, I think when you take these guys and you

2324
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 6: bring out who at their best is a better fighter,

2325
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 6: it's got to be Mario Batista to your point.

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01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 8: Against umar right, he was able to get into those scrambles.

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01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:18,760
Speaker 3: He wasn't you know.

2328
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 8: He lost, But every one except for maybe one or two,

2329
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,160
Speaker 8: we're going to lose to Umar right.

2330
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 6: I think from Mario Batista he cannot get that confidence down.

2331
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 6: He's got to go into this fight and he's got

2332
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 6: to go back to the wrestling, the ground game to

2333
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 6: where he was really taking guys out earlier. Because oliver

2334
01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 6: Off is back. Takes away all the weird style, takes

2335
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 6: away the unpredictable striking, the spinning crap, everything you could

2336
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 6: think of. So for me, I think Batista gets a

2337
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 6: win here. I think this is a very good opportunity

2338
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:48,719
Speaker 6: for him to shine and get a finish. We don't

2339
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 6: know if lookdog can go five.

2340
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 8: Rounds at that wild pace. I think we know Batista

2341
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 8: can push it, especially if he dictates the narrative. So

2342
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 8: give me super Mario because that should be his nickname.

2343
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

2344
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 8: What is he doing battle mode Mario? What the hell?

2345
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like, come on, guys, we're we're in

2346
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 6: a we're in a sport here, we're marketing is almost

2347
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 6: as good as getting a win. Like he should walk

2348
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:20,639
Speaker 6: out in a red shirt fucking overall, like like like say,

2349
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,679
Speaker 6: who gives this ship about battle mode?

2350
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 11: It's like, you know, saying like no, I mean, I'm

2351
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 11: probably wrong as usual, but I'm just saying, like I

2352
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 11: think about all these stuff with some of these guys

2353
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 11: are really cool nicknames.

2354
01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 8: And then the fact that they get the John Addick

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Speaker 8: rubb on the air if you get it.

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01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 6: So it's not like these guys just get announced right,

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01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 6: because we know that Buffer sometimes announces the wrong people anyways,

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01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 6: But when you get behind a nickname, people remember, like

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01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 6: Elier the Tiefi the backyard Shed. That wasn't even his nickname,

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01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 6: but That's all I remember, right, And I don't even

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01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 6: know what else he was called.

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Speaker 8: So not to go off topic here, but I think

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 8: you bring.

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Speaker 5: Up an excellent point.

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Speaker 2: Willan so killed?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:02,160
Speaker 2: Is Mono tizing the bakery thing with full violence?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,560
Speaker 2: And that wasn't even a nickname, It was just a

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01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 2: call and his mom brought us cookies, right, because it's

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01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 2: taken on truly.

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01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 8: The only thing he didn't do was come out in

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01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 8: a baker's hat thrown.

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01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Out, Oh right, right, good to the audience. But I'm

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01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:23,800
Speaker 2: laughing because you're super Mario Kart battle Mode battle Born.

2376
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 2: He was born in Nevada and he has the battle

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01:55:26,400 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: Born tattoos.

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01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Kenny uh first first headlining spot for both

2380
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 2: Venicius Olivera and Mario Baptista Olivera's four and zero in

2381
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: the UFC. He's had some sensational moments, the double Bonus.

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01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 2: He beat Kyler Phillips, who's pretty credential to UFC three

2383
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 2: eighteen in New Orleans last July. What do you make

2384
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 2: of the main event can flop?

2385
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the fact that he beat Kyler Phillips

2386
01:55:50,120 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: I think was extremely impressive. However, he still hasn't beaten

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01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,480
Speaker 1: or fought I should say the likes of a NORMALGA

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01:55:57,560 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 1: medof Aldo Simon Black. I mean these are this is

2389
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: top tier stuff, and I think Kyler Phillips didn't have

2390
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 1: the best fight against him. But as far as who

2391
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 1: is the more dangerous guy, I think Luck at Joggy

2392
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: Luck at Jogg He's very dangerous. I think he's I

2393
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,440
Speaker 1: think he's the guy that, you know, if if there's

2394
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: someone I'm betting on to maybe get the finish, it

2395
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: would probably be Olivera. I think that he's got crazy power,

2396
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: he's absolutely massive in the division, He's got conditioning, He's

2397
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: not gonna go away. We've seen him in some really

2398
01:56:30,760 --> 01:56:33,560
Speaker 1: tough spots and come back to win. So there's a

2399
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of positives.

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01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 5: But what I value in this.

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01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: Game, if I can get it, is consistency, and Mario

2402
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 1: Bautista is consistent.

2403
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:45,160
Speaker 5: He's a guy you know.

2404
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna show up in shape, he's gonna perform well

2405
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: every single time out. He's rarely gonna have just a

2406
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: bad round. He's been accruing a lot of very critical

2407
01:56:56,440 --> 01:57:01,120
Speaker 1: experience against high level competition, and I'm like Mario Bautista

2408
01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: as a result, I think it's gonna be a great fight.

2409
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna find out just how good ol

2410
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: of Era is and can he pass this test? Yeah,

2411
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: he potentially could, but I have to go with consistency here,

2412
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: and for me, that means Mario Bautista.

2413
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,320
Speaker 2: And remember twenty five foot octagon. I believe Meta Apex

2414
01:57:18,360 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 2: has a bunch of seats now, but I believe you're

2415
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 2: still dealing with the smaller octagon. So we'll see what

2416
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 2: happens when they locked the door behind them. All right,

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01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 2: that's it for the main event Challenge, our final act.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian plus ninety six dollars and fifty nine cents

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Speaker 2: did give a thousand bucks back on Rafael Fhazee Kennywise, otherwise,

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Speaker 2: well done. You hit a parley on Talison to share

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Speaker 2: quill and sal killed the straight on Volk Anyway, you

2427
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 2: guys get three grand for the numbered cards and you

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Speaker 2: get a thousand bucks for UFC Fight night Bautista versus

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Speaker 2: ol of Era. And I just want to preface this

2430
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 2: by saying I appreciate the heck out of you guys

2431
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 2: with the early week handicap. I know, having to do

2432
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: this on a Monday or Tuesday instead of a Thursday

2433
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,520
Speaker 2: or Friday, sometimes it's less advantageous. But we need your

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01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:13,560
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars in wagers. Not now, but right now,

2435
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 2: Ian Parker, the floor is yours.

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01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 8: Yeah. Last week I was a bit of a disaster.

2437
01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 8: I was a little nervous being back up.

2438
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,120
Speaker 6: No, I'm not making that was just atrocious. All right,

2439
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 6: let's get back to business here. I'm gonna start off

2440
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 6: with a parlay. All right, give me Batiita, give me

2441
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 6: Lord Michelle, and give me what was the other one

2442
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:33,640
Speaker 6: I had.

2443
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 3: Hold on?

2444
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 8: I got checked by.

2445
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 2: All I asked was, oh yeah, because you don't have.

2446
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:41,360
Speaker 2: All I asked was you to have this year. Okay,

2447
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 2: all right, I mean I don't want you to get it.

2448
01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't want you to get fired two weeks into

2449
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 2: this return.

2450
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 8: So I know, I know, I know, I know, I sucked.

2451
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 8: I absolutely sucked, and I wrote the notes down. I

2452
01:58:52,640 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 8: had switched to my phont so I apologize.

2453
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,360
Speaker 5: Son, Yeah, it's no I did.

2454
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 6: I got the notes here, but I'm on my clone.

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01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 6: All right, Kenny, Kenny, You're you're distracted me, Kenny, Now,

2456
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 6: I'm kidding. All Right, let's go. We're gonna go with

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01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:10,839
Speaker 6: Batista and Lord Michael. I'm going five hundred on that parlay.

2458
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:12,160
Speaker 3: All right, give me that.

2459
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 8: We're gonna go Bashirat to win in over one and

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01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 8: a half rounds. I will get you the odds on that. Okay,

2461
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 8: the first one though, I'm going five hundred on that parlay.

2462
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 8: I'm going heady, all right, I'm gonna go two.

2463
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 6: Point fifty here and then I this one's gonna this one,

2464
01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 6: I'm gonna really sweat. Give me the rest of what

2465
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 6: I got in the balance for Almeida and Kuoniev over one.

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01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 8: And a half rounds.

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01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, probably gonna spend a round and a half getting

2468
01:59:39,720 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 6: one takedown on that. Along came Bally poly type of

2469
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 6: shirtless mad.

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01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:46,839
Speaker 8: Meat on Kuoniev.

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01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 6: All right, but and Kenny, to your to your point,

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01:59:49,840 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 6: I do think Kunim is a live dogs here.

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01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 8: I do think he is potentially.

2474
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 6: Live if he stops these takedowns. You know, he's got

2475
01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 6: the better striking, he's got the cardio. But those are

2476
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,879
Speaker 6: my plays for this week. I feel way more confident

2477
02:00:01,480 --> 02:00:04,040
Speaker 6: and uh more organized, So I apologize I did have

2478
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 6: written down.

2479
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we will call for even more organization in

2480
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 2: week three of this return Ken Flow go ahead, all right.

2481
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:11,120
Speaker 8: Here we go.

2482
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put two hundred on Kuniev. I do think

2483
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,760
Speaker 1: he can pull this one off. I think he's gonna

2484
02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 1: surprise people. I'm going to do a parlay as well.

2485
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 1: It's going to be for five hundred dollars on Horror,

2486
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:26,240
Speaker 1: Gucci and Olk say chuck, and then the remaining three

2487
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 1: hundred I'm gonna put on.

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02:00:28,160 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 5: It's a me Madrio.

2489
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 2: But can you imagine?

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02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 8: You know what?

2491
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 6: I got something here? I want to add add something

2492
02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 6: to the parlay. Put Horror Gucci in my parlay. No, listen,

2493
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:41,680
Speaker 6: are we not allowed to do that?

2494
02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,800
Speaker 2: Yes, you're allowed to do it, but you're on thin

2495
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 2: fucking ice.

2496
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 3: Bro.

2497
02:00:45,720 --> 02:00:48,240
Speaker 5: I love you, you know what, I'm not gonna.

2498
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 3: Lie to you.

2499
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 2: I had him written by Parlay. That was the one

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Speaker 2: I forgot. What is that not on the main card

2501
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 2: Why is he not on the main card, Horry, he is,

2502
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 2: but yeah, fucking signal cutout. So I skipped your comine event.

2503
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 2: Pick at MMA. If you want more from this guy

2504
02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 2: on social media, we gotta go today.

2505
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 8: I don't think you do.

2506
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 3: We have to go.

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02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 8: I'm off to a hot start. I love you boys.

2508
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Actually, we'll see in two weeks.

2509
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 2: We'll see in two weeks. Okay, I got fire, I

2510
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:17,920
Speaker 2: got on. We'll see in two weeks. There he is,

2511
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 2: Ian Parker with us for lace your bets. I mean,

2512
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 2: Kenny Florian fought for the UFC Championship three times. He

2513
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 2: comes here organized. I mean all I asked was him

2514
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 2: to write down his bets. And yeah, no, he's off

2515
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 2: next week because the UFC does not have a show

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Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Dan Tom Ray long Ago, Ian Parker, our

2519
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 2: live producer is the great Cody Merrow. Thanks to Nathan

2520
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Speaker 2: everybody behind the scenes at all the Smoke Fight. Please

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Speaker 2: subscribe to the Anticonfloring podcast YouTube channel, where we are

2522
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Speaker 2: back end, hopefully better than ever. Also, don't forget to

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Speaker 2: subscribe to all the Smoke productions all their channels of course,

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Speaker 2: all the smoke fight and we'll be back with you

2525
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Speaker 2: to see what happens between Mario Bautista and Vansias Locke

2526
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: dog Olvera coming up next Monday. We'll be live at

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Speaker 2: noon Eastern as long as there are no travel issues

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Speaker 2: I do not foresee Eddie uh. With that, thank you

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02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 2: all for listening, for watching, Tell your mom, tell your friends.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week for Kemp Plumb John Anak.

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Speaker 2: Until then you'll leave