WEBVTT - Truth Embargo w/ Keeley Miller

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Dundun, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up an SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger.

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<v Speaker 2>We're here to talk SVU, crime, celeb guests, chit chat, fun,

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<v Speaker 2>We have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We sure do, and very hardly breaking news. But you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know, we're always in a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>time machine. Iced Tea said, that's messed up on the

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<v Speaker 1>last episode of SVU, and it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 2>We I'm caught up and I did not notice that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm that's pretty humiliating for me. It's just the one

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<v Speaker 2>that just aired like last Thursday. I guess he said

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<v Speaker 2>that's messed up. He's in a scene. People have sent

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<v Speaker 2>some screenshots. I think he's in a scene with the

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<v Speaker 2>new girl.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says it, So I maybe is that a

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<v Speaker 1>subliminal message to us?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Because I was checking Peacock and I was

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<v Speaker 2>actually flipping out because I didn't have anywe el Smith

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<v Speaker 2>last week too and I'm like, I just I missed

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty two episode cycle, Like, yeah, I'm just sick

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<v Speaker 2>of And I talked to someone else about this and

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<v Speaker 2>they said Bob's Burgers will air an episode and then

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<v Speaker 2>a month later air another one, like they don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck anymore. And I understand they deserve a life,

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<v Speaker 2>like they don't have to be grinding out twenty. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess this is sixteen episodes this season. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, but that's a lot. We're only in March.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, they'll do twenty probably this season at least. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But so I have anything to complain about. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe you're also thinking of the season after the

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<v Speaker 1>strike was only like thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think many shows do twenty two anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But even they're like on an SNL schedule, they'll do

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<v Speaker 2>three week off due to week off, like they're just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of which, whatever the industry's.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, what you need to do, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>But last week we did mention the Luigi original recipe.

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<v Speaker 2>And to make matters worse to the motions that his

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania lawyer is putting in is that they obtained his DNA,

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<v Speaker 2>like unlawfully, but because they gave him snacks and drinks

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<v Speaker 2>SVU style, you thirsty you want me to get they

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<v Speaker 2>make it seem like it's legal. So I wonder how

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<v Speaker 2>the motion is gonna go. But SPU does lots of

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<v Speaker 2>things that are illegal. You know, they'll yea homes, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>shove a guy, but the motion is to throw it away.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wonder if it's because he didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>he was being arrested for or why he would have

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<v Speaker 2>eaten and drank. But I think it's because he's innocent. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he he they didn't tell him what

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested in charged with.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, well, like it's so crazy. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have this high, high profile case. If you think

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<v Speaker 1>this is the guy and you want to get a

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<v Speaker 1>commit you have to do everything so by the fucking book.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because they didn't not.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was reading a New York magazine article this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend and it was about Tish, the police commissioner. You

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<v Speaker 2>know about this woman, she's no, it's like Tish from

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<v Speaker 2>n YU.

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<v Speaker 3>She comes from all I know, the NYU program, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's she's part of that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So her families were ten billion dollars and she worked

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<v Speaker 2>in sanitatious So this whole article was just about how

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<v Speaker 2>like Eric Adams and her might disagree on certain things

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<v Speaker 2>and that he's like a criminal. I'm like, how do

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<v Speaker 2>they actually work together? But what's interesting that I caught

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<v Speaker 2>with this article was she was getting stressed because all

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<v Speaker 2>the money and all the stuff that she spent on

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<v Speaker 2>the city wasn't working to apprehend him. And I watched

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<v Speaker 2>another guy online and be like, so you guys lost

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<v Speaker 2>him at like a train or bus terminal by George

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Bridge, the most policed place. There's a police station

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<v Speaker 2>inside of it, Like there's no footage of him, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you guys lose him there? She has surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>all over the city, and she realized he was becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a folk hero.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't looking good.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a billionaire with reach, and a part of me

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<v Speaker 2>is just like, I wonder if she didn't give a

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<v Speaker 2>fuck that she just knew she had to catch somebody, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Because the way this article I wish I had in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me was like frame I highlighted, I highlighted,

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<v Speaker 2>And it is embarrassing to even be talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>police commissioner. I feel like, I'm on, I'm a batman.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even think I knew the police commimenter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hit, Yes it was Kelly when I lived there. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so she But it's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like what I always say, if I was a billionaire,

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<v Speaker 2>I would never work, and especially not be head of sanitation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was her dream job. She like cleaned up

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<v Speaker 2>the city. She's the one who got rid of all

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<v Speaker 2>the rats. That was her big thing. Wow, Okay, go off,

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<v Speaker 2>go off. But she's like a dumb bitch, and so's

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Adams, and like all these deaths that they've got.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so they pulled DNA from what they thought

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<v Speaker 2>was the suspected water about there was nothing. The surveillance

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<v Speaker 2>camera network to should helped build wasn't much use. None

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<v Speaker 2>of the facial recognition was working. She found herself at

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<v Speaker 2>the possibility of a catastrophic setback for her department. The

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<v Speaker 2>killer was already emerging as a folk hero. Who knows

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<v Speaker 2>how long she would have to get Like she had

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<v Speaker 2>to go do her job, and a part of me

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<v Speaker 2>is just like, oh, and then she goes, oh, fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>he's better looking than we thought. This is a huge problem.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, and I can't believe we are with him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so disgusted. We need to bring him back to

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<v Speaker 2>New York City and it's like, that's not how police

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<v Speaker 2>work works.

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<v Speaker 1>The facial recognition didn't work because the eyebrows are different. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe. I don't think it's the safe guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And all this technology is going to be used to

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<v Speaker 2>catch immigrants, which she says she's against, but they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, it's really fucked up because Eric Adams basically

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<v Speaker 2>promised to help Ice for his charges to be dropped.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm rambling at this point. Wait, but let me

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<v Speaker 2>just say two things before.

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<v Speaker 1>We got two interesting messages that I think I forwarded

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<v Speaker 1>both of them too, but maybe I didn't. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them was it's actually not bad that they keep delaying

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<v Speaker 1>because like it's in his best interest for the defense

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<v Speaker 1>to have as much time as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what somebody said, so it's like, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing somebody said was if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>if if it's a terrorism case, insurance will not pay out.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he is convicted of or whatever of it

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<v Speaker 1>being terrorism, his family will not get his life The

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<v Speaker 1>victim's family will not get his life insurance policy because it.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't cover terrorism. Isn't that wild? It is?

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't want him to be charged with terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>because it's I know not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just now, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's if the terrorism charges have to do a tiss too.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like I don't trust a billionaire in the

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<v Speaker 2>city becoming police commissioner and make snow sense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>do we talk about the group chat?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I can't. I don't know, I can't get

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<v Speaker 3>into the grid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's we are living in a television show, like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even every day something more cartoonish happens.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that everyone's just so okay, like we're just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the going along of these insane things like but

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<v Speaker 2>aren't all you right wing military people like into your safety?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just a cult. This, Yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>full cult.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I actually found out someone that I really like

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<v Speaker 2>went to the inauguration and I looked him and said,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he fucking did that. And at least

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<v Speaker 2>for a few weeks don't even fucking look at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I go, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to you, and he stayed away from me yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't. It is shocked. I actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had fun on stage. People didn't laugh at my joke

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty twenty five being crazy, and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think you guys think it's great? You guys

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<v Speaker 2>want to all come on stage in Heyle Hitler one

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<v Speaker 2>at a time, and then I did a whole speech

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<v Speaker 2>at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really fun. Oh my god, I love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like, would you guys save

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<v Speaker 2>me if I got zip tied?

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<v Speaker 3>And they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I said, people watch the Jews go to

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<v Speaker 2>the gas chambers and they gasped, and I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>are them. I'm like, if you would watch me get

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<v Speaker 2>zip tied because I'm like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a wild I just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always a shock when I perform for my audience

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<v Speaker 2>on the road and then I come back to the city.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always just like a little bit of a shock

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<v Speaker 2>that first set because it's not people that like are

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<v Speaker 2>granting me full like we're down.

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<v Speaker 1>They are more down on the road than in New York. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's people that want to see me. It's my eyes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's our girls. It's like people shut her down here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like who knows where people are from? Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>just popped in to see who was who, who was around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes people go nuts. But I knew they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to. But I still did my Luigi Midsia, but

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<v Speaker 1>I knew they weren't going to like it. You just

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<v Speaker 1>there's certain jokes that are about the world and the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what the crowd is, and I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bunch of fascists, got it all right? My

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<v Speaker 1>pitch is that your next hour is just a full

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi like it's a genre bending stand up special, true

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<v Speaker 1>crime documentary combo together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean absolutely not, but there's definitely a good

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<v Speaker 2>there's a good six minute you tack Luigi, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you also branch out and you you go off of

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<v Speaker 2>it to talk about culture and what's happening today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Bravo can work its way. In Bravo is

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<v Speaker 1>a true crime show. Everything has in an SVU with housewives,

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<v Speaker 1>yet is like so annoying. I know, it is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they like made a deal with Luanne when she

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<v Speaker 1>was in the episode Bully that they would never tread

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<v Speaker 1>on that ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's also they're all part of the same fucking network.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, they are. Oh, Barcela is leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the news. I think it's okay. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Arcel gave us a good five years of her life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it sucks if she left feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm gonna see her tonight, so yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see I don't I'm gonna I'm gonna talk.

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<v Speaker 3>To her about it. The reunion.

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<v Speaker 2>Trailer looks like she walks off and does not come back.

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<v Speaker 2>And in terms of like Bo's and Eric on watch

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, that's what it seems like.

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<v Speaker 3>That she left, like something went down.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know, I think, because also I think

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was her one real, real, actual friend, Sutton

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<v Speaker 2>decided to just be so thirsty for Kyle and fuck Garsona.

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<v Speaker 2>What is Kyle's fucking power over everybody? It is just

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<v Speaker 2>a popular girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like not cool, it's very cool, but that it's

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<v Speaker 2>just what it's. It's it's Barlow and salt Lake. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like these women that mistreat everyone would never do the

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<v Speaker 2>same things for you that you're doing for them, demand

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent blind loyalty. See, if you do anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you're dead, and they're thirsty for it. It's popular girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I really thought this was gonna be the season that

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<v Speaker 1>Sutton took Kyle down. But I guess Nope, Kyle has

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<v Speaker 1>a spell. No, she's fully sting like Kyle defended me.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys see that? I mean, it's really embarrassing. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>did I already talk about her fashion show?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>All these so Sutton, you know, opens the store.

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<v Speaker 2>She if you don't know, she's a woman that got

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing divorce settlement. She gets three hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month in perpetuity. It seems like like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's wealthy and she opened a store, and she has

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<v Speaker 2>this fashion show and it's all about her mom being

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<v Speaker 2>proud of her and achieving something and making something. And

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<v Speaker 2>all these rich women are always like, here's a business,

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<v Speaker 2>here's a new business. They don't need to make money, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why are none of them service minded? Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to make people proud and just waste your money

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<v Speaker 2>on whatever, why not like make a school for poor

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<v Speaker 2>kids to make clothes. I don't know, Like, yeah, why

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<v Speaker 2>not feed people every week and make that your episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I know she's probably like, I go to galas

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<v Speaker 2>and I give more, you know, but yeah, she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been able to get am far. I'm on the

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<v Speaker 2>ballet gala, whatever board. I just don't get why they

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<v Speaker 2>all need a new line of rose. Is it all

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<v Speaker 2>tax evasion? Like why is not one of them service minded?

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense to me to be this wealthy

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<v Speaker 2>with nothing to fucking do, and you're like, yep, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do a fashion show.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense to me. Yeah, if you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about someone like Sutton, you're sixty years old. Your mom

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<v Speaker 1>is never gonna be proud of you. She has trauma

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<v Speaker 1>and you do too. I don't know what to tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>No fashion show is gonna make your mom say I

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<v Speaker 1>love you. She's never done it, So why not feed

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<v Speaker 1>the poor? You're in California, and I bet that bitch

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't vote right. No, I bet not either. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think something probably really has a ton to charity. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she thinks it's fun to watch that

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<v Speaker 1>on the TV show. I think she was like, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a TV show. I want people to see my

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<v Speaker 1>fashion and that I'm the fashion girly.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to brand herself. You know, Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just embarrassing and I don't know why it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hit me before this fashion show, but it set me

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<v Speaker 2>off where I'm like, I can't believe any of these

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<v Speaker 2>women and like none of them are like I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to start it, And the one that don't want was

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany and she ended up ended up being kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal enterprise too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's funny that you mentioned Bethany, because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like most of them are trying to follow the Bethany playbook,

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<v Speaker 1>where they're actually not as rich as they as they

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<v Speaker 1>as they're co hostars I eed to read.

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<v Speaker 3>Who I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe is a full grifter and this is their opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to launch some kind of multimillion dollar brand like what

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany did, and it just hasn't worked out as well.

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<v Speaker 3>At Bethany was like the blueprint for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what I actually Bethany is doing some business or

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<v Speaker 2>some podcasts that's been in my feed, showing me clips

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes like the Housewives, does it make a

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<v Speaker 2>business or a product?

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<v Speaker 3>Go like, it's not guaranteed success.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like a lot of these women are like

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<v Speaker 2>like I think Jenna Lyons thought her eyelashes were gonna

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<v Speaker 2>become a Bethany like style, Like no one cares, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just exposure.

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<v Speaker 3>Well did you.

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<v Speaker 1>See like Amy Poehler and Tina Fey having a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>on their podcast where she was like, it's just embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>to me when rich people have a side hustle.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, but they all do. They all won't stop. It's

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<v Speaker 2>insatiable fucking thirst for more and more and more in

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<v Speaker 2>the most sickening way. I don't know, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 2>just with everything going on, it's just like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it grosses me out. Yeah, Sutton is and none of

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<v Speaker 2>them want to get a job, and none of them

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<v Speaker 2>are ever like, fuck, I'm going through a divorcer. Our

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<v Speaker 2>house was foreclosed, Honor, Oh no, I need money. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get a job. They're all like, I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>a purse line, and I'm like, you will never get

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<v Speaker 2>your return on this purse line, Gretchy, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I also.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have an entrepreneur imperial spirit. Yeah, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>these people come to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people come to them and go, we've got this.

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<v Speaker 1>This person's going to design all the persons for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Just slap your name on it. You'll make a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of money. Like, I think that's what happens, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work out a lot of the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>and also yeah, I would love to see a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more service on the show. In general, we really

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<v Speaker 1>haven't gotten anything since Homeless, not toothless, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like, we really haven't gotten a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them supporting. Although I will say I love Bo's wears

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<v Speaker 1>a black designer every single time she's on camera.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that until I just found that out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that. I mean she is cool. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean chief marketing officer. Who knew would be so into

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<v Speaker 2>that job, Like it's cool. Yeah, she's someone with a job. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a blessing to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, Sutton is gross, but she I do

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<v Speaker 1>find her fun to watch, Like, I do think she's

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<v Speaker 1>a good housewife. But you cannot be the recipient of

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<v Speaker 1>a of a huge divorce settlement and then throw around

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<v Speaker 1>how rich you are all the time when like, like

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<v Speaker 1>the way the thing she said did to read about

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<v Speaker 1>like find someone who's wallet match, It's like you're a

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<v Speaker 1>gross Like that was a really gross comment.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that really was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Low but well yeah, because well someone wrote they're like

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<v Speaker 2>Beverly Hills is failing because you could tell none of

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<v Speaker 2>them are actually friends or like each other and anyway

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<v Speaker 2>that it's all forced, like there's just no nothing. But

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<v Speaker 2>Garsette listen, Garcela made the most of it. She like

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<v Speaker 2>revitalized her career in a huge way. So many projects. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>gotta beach house. Let us know, let us know what

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<v Speaker 2>she says tonight when you guys hang out. But she

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<v Speaker 2>was hurt at that reunion when they went for her

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<v Speaker 2>son and she was like tearing up and no one

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<v Speaker 2>had her back, like yeah, I'm sorry the way they

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<v Speaker 2>treat her, they do not treat each other. And yeah

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<v Speaker 2>yeah even Eric, well Eric go is funny and watch

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<v Speaker 2>what happens. But she goes what we both we both

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<v Speaker 2>married ugly white men that cheated on us.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I do want to say thank you to wild Gummies,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy from Portland. Yes, through big Box, Big Box nice,

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<v Speaker 2>nice bullying on the podcast does work?

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<v Speaker 3>It works?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait can I I wanted to shout out somebody really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>We are friends with this comedian Louis Kats and his

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<v Speaker 1>he's great. He opens for David Tel You're at one

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<v Speaker 1>of your fave, my fave like all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife started this business that she came over to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and she went through my closet with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was fucking the best. Like I was like

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<v Speaker 1>on a high from this for like I still kind

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<v Speaker 1>of am. She basically is like a stylus, like a

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<v Speaker 1>wardrobe streamliner, and she'll go through and she's not in

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<v Speaker 1>there to like tell you what like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>new shit to buy. She's there to like help you

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<v Speaker 1>put together outfits with like what you already have. And

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks like in a way that like I would

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<v Speaker 1>never think about how to like put my clothes together,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was stuff I had in my closet that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't touched in forever. She was like, this would

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<v Speaker 1>go great with this, And I was like, wait, what,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never would have ever thought about that, And

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<v Speaker 1>like I took all these pictures, I have all these

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<v Speaker 1>new outfits like little flash cards in my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the best.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's not paying me to say this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to shout out her little business. If you live

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<v Speaker 1>in the Los Angeles area, she's Angela Cats dot co.

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<v Speaker 3>Go check it out. It's so fucking worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>She helped me get rid of a ton of shit

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<v Speaker 1>and she helped me, like work so much better with

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<v Speaker 1>what I already have.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love her. I mean it's all about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Buying new shit's stupid. Yeah, all about repurposing. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't buy a new outfit for the premiere tonight. Mmm,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wearing stuff that's been in my closet. Great, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what life's about now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but yeah, Angela Cats fucking she just like really

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel great. And now I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>have all these It feels like I went shopping because

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<v Speaker 1>I like have, Like I'm wearing all this new shit

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<v Speaker 1>in a new way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it makes packing easier once, Like outfits are

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of like mixy matchy, and you like everything, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just so much easier to pack too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I had this dress that was like a

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<v Speaker 1>short sleeve long, like a knee length dress or whatever,

0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, this kind of looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>hospital gown on you. But then she was like, open

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it up because it was buttoned down. And now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>opening it up and I'm wearing it as like an

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<v Speaker 1>overlayer with pants on a top, and it looks great.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never would have thought about doing that. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have just given the dress away. So it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a skill. I'm like not, you know, I like clothes,

0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.720
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not like necessarily the best at putting outfits together.

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<v Speaker 1>And like I feel like I got like an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>tutoring set.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I love that he thinks everyone that came

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<v Speaker 2>to Nashville, oh, I have so much fun. But in

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<v Speaker 2>a wild turn of events, someone came to the show

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<v Speaker 2>that I've not seen in seventeen years.

0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 3>A high school person. Not high school.

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<v Speaker 2>We like shared a mutual friend and we would go

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<v Speaker 2>clubbing together.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was waiting in line to meet me after

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<v Speaker 2>with her husband, and I looked and I go, do

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<v Speaker 2>I know you? And she goes yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like Rachel, And then it was and we hung out

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.400
<v Speaker 2>for hours. And her husband does like special effects for concerts,

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.400
<v Speaker 2>like he does the Incubus tour he does the lasers

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<v Speaker 2>and fire.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I went to that school.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, did your head explode? Oh my god,

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:40.919
<v Speaker 1>I was there. We got to end.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess they're great. So it's just like nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was on the road with like Bieber when

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 2>Bieber was a teen, Like he almost got ran over

0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>by Bieber on a segway and stuff.

0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.600
<v Speaker 3>But it was just really cool. But also what was wild?

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<v Speaker 2>So in the back I just have the TV screen

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and all I saw was like two guys in red

0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.639
<v Speaker 2>hats in the front, and it's Nashville. So I'm like, fuck,

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 2>are you fucking kidding me? Like I can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>I walk out. They're both like the most incredible. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it has nothing to do with what I thought, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was my fears. One of the guys in the

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<v Speaker 2>red hat, full flannel, denim, cowboy boots, like.

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:19.800
<v Speaker 3>The whole get up, and I go, wow, I love

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<v Speaker 3>your ring.

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:24.160
<v Speaker 2>He goes, oh yeah's husband behind him, my number one fan,

0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:27.400
<v Speaker 2>gay quoting stuff like I would say something and he goes,

0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I bet your dad liked that, like do everything, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything gay fun diamond ring.

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<v Speaker 2>I was did you say, like did you say, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys an attack with the hats?

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<v Speaker 3>Why are you trolling me? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. I had the best time with them. After

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<v Speaker 2>I go are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, what

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you were gonna do? And now you're a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking just like here with your husband knowing all my jokes,

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<v Speaker 2>Like perception is so off. Sometimes it was like really

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<v Speaker 2>lovely to get checked. It was tough to get like

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<v Speaker 2>reminded of everyone's humanity. But if the red hats were

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<v Speaker 2>red hat, Like, if he was who I thought he was,

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<v Speaker 2>I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have kicked him out. That's amazing. Yeah, vial or not,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we talk last week about my drag Race episode

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<v Speaker 1>that aired?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I have it. That was the last thing in

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<v Speaker 2>my introness. I was like, I know, there's one more thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you wrote the sketch, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The acting challenge, the acting Challenge, the Ross Matthews and

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<v Speaker 1>the Ducks. Yeah, that was like so funny because I

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<v Speaker 1>was like they were just making such a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>about the prostate wants what it wants, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, like that's fun that they like love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I originally wrote the colon wants what it wants.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we switched it to prostate. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was happy. It was cool because they always change

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<v Speaker 1>everything I write, and like there's it always like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know how things are going to turn out.

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<v Speaker 1>It really, in my mind looked exactly like what came

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<v Speaker 1>out like that's how I saw it staged. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I saw the bar looking like, like it was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind what I thought it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>look like.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was like a surprise. It was a great

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<v Speaker 2>episode and they're great girls. How did you working with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I was sad that that that challenge sent Lydia Butthole

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<v Speaker 1>home because I've been liking Butthole.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's what I was goot to saying.

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<v Speaker 2>If she didn't bring out the scissors, she would have stayed,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, because her lip sync was better. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Lana Gerrat has been hanging on by a fucking

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<v Speaker 2>thread and like I just can't believe she's in the

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<v Speaker 2>top like she was in the top five, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but like Eve, but even this last time where she was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the fourth time in the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>Her lip sync was better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I thought so, but you know, they had the

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<v Speaker 2>letter go only Cameron Michael somehow kept losing and made

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<v Speaker 2>it to the top three, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Really know how. Yeah, dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe my friend Elliott's obsessed with Cameron's dancing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I just love the way her bottom moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, guess who went to Taylor Swift soul cycle with

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<v Speaker 2>me yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>Who? Nikki Glazer? Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And her assistant Emily Who's who's a soul cycler who

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<v Speaker 2>like knows what's up? But it was I was exploding,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just love bringing people yes, like, and then

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<v Speaker 2>next week Caitlin Belue it's gonna be her hundredth ride

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<v Speaker 2>or go.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I just like to combine all my worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just everything that's fun, that's really fun, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey did just write.

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<v Speaker 2>Out on a notepa I feel today was also really

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<v Speaker 2>reminiscent of our old school intros.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just really nothing, you know, just chit chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but Casey looks a little stressed and he's rubbing

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes and showing us a notepad with a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>on it, So we gotta we gotta wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, shout out to everyone in fucking Nashville. I

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<v Speaker 2>really liked everyone. It was really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and go to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go to That's messed Up Live dot com

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what I'm doing Friday. What I'm doing us. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it goes I'm like scared team and say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a stand up show Petting Zoo where you hold

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'll keep everyone posting. Let me know

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<v Speaker 1>episode for you today or do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're doing Truth Embargo season twenty five, episode two. Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>that's crazy because it came out January twenty fifth, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, episode two, so it's like, oh, because the strike.

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<v Speaker 2>It must have been a strike because they usually premiere

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<v Speaker 2>in the fall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and season episode one was like more Maddie whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is part of the Maddie Laurid.

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<v Speaker 2>You know season twenty five had a through story and

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<v Speaker 2>so that we're gonna touch on it a little in

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<v Speaker 2>this but Kara, what what what?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna say?

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, we have the distinct pleasure today to be covering truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Embargo the number one worst rated SVU episode on IMDb. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>it has dethroned Intimidation Game, which I always I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think is a bad episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the.

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<v Speaker 1>Gamers like took over IMDb and we're like, this isn't

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>real gaming, and it's like, people that don't watch us

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>for you really care if it's real. If it's like, well,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>let's how the are about to go after original recipe.

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<v Speaker 3>Are about to crash that episode the luigiads, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>but this.

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<v Speaker 1>One is I was noodling around a little bit on

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<v Speaker 1>Reddit and people really fucking hate this episode. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am obviously thrilled that we're doing it right now. I like,

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I saw it and I was like, yeah, this is

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of one of the like more recent season episodes

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 1>where I don't really like love the story that much,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever, and then I've really thought about it, was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, oh, it's it is quite bad. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>But I will say what I love about this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of zingers, like a lot of funny lines,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we'll, you know, we'll get to celebrate those.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't even know any of this, and I

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 2>feel like a fool.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what if we're like, I'm loving this.

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<v Speaker 2>So a little upsetting, of course, But we start with

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<v Speaker 2>a sexy Marishka, so we're happy doorman building. He opens

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<v Speaker 2>the door for her. It's time for fitness. She's going

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<v Speaker 2>on a run. Her you know, messy pony tail is perfect,

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and she has a shirt with the thumbholes. She's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>the Maddie bracelet that she got off that she found

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>evidence that Maddie was there. You know what, We're not

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 2>getting into it. You want to watch it? Did we

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<v Speaker 2>Did we not cover the first episode of this? We

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>did because we had Maddie on. Yeah, tunnel blind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a run. Yeah. So yeah, pretty exciting. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is a tailor coded episode. You know, she has

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<v Speaker 2>this beaded bracelet that says, oh yeah, friendship bracelets.

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<v Speaker 1>But also there's a lot of episodes seasons starting in

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<v Speaker 1>like seasons twenty around where Live is in workout gear,

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>and like the first twenty years of this show, we

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<v Speaker 1>did not really ever see her in anything besides you know,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>the blazer or like jeans and like a fitted little

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<v Speaker 1>scoop neck top or something.

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<v Speaker 3>But like we never saw her in at leisure or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like starting like a few seasons ago, it's

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<v Speaker 1>I do think she just told wardrobe like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want sometimes to be super comfortable. Can you just like

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<v Speaker 1>put me in like a Lululemon and like let it rock?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm trying to think when the exercise started. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>like season twenty, Yeah, season twenty, there's an episode where

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<v Speaker 2>she shows up at a crime scene and she's like

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<v Speaker 2>I was with my trainer, you know, so like, yeah, she's.

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<v Speaker 3>Starting to work out a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean she was always well cause because I remember

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 2>her doing sprints. I know, I covered one episode where

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 2>she starts off with the train or doing sprints.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Again, I think a later like a later EP season.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. So they never worked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was always just like Stabler in a bad mood,

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 2>pumping iron. You know, that's like the most workout totally. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I and we always saw Rolin's jogging we always

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 2>saw Rollin's jogging, but we never saw Marishka really working out.

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 2>But it also I think could be part of like

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>her storyline of like she's trying to do things for

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<v Speaker 2>her spend time like because now she has no more

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>work life balance, like taking care of yourself. Also, for me,

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>as someone who had kids a little bit older, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I need to get back to fucking working

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<v Speaker 2>out so that I can keep up with them because

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel tired as hell all the time with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So working out like helps you chase after your kids,

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>you know. So maybe it's a little bit of Noah

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and a little bit of self care.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Who knows, but I think.

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<v Speaker 2>She was probably always keeping fit though because of the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I would imagine that young Olivia Benson would

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>go to a gym or take a run, but we

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<v Speaker 1>just never saw it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I bet she was a fit. This bitch was

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>doing step classes. I know it, I know it. I

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>feel like late nineties Benson was totally doing fuck it.

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you think she was like doing zoomba and like

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<v Speaker 2>all the fatso not.

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<v Speaker 1>Zoomba, but definitely step I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I s yeah, I used to do that. Way I

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<v Speaker 3>could see her doing soul. I could see Olivia doing soul.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, yea dark she like herself. Yeah, I was talking

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>about Soul cycle like I always do, and kind of

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>selling it and there, like, I guess if there's also

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>a light show, I go, there is.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's that is one of the things I think

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 1>about when I'm like, I could go to soul. The

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>lights are fun. But anyways, she's running and she and

0:30:59.040 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>she's haunted.

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's no dialogue, it's just music, and this bitch

0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.479
<v Speaker 2>is fast. She is running fast, but she sees an

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>energy drink truck, the last place Mattie was seen.

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 3>So she runs opens the door.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>The guy's like what the fuck, and she's like flashback,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, And this guy looks like lin Manuel Miranda.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not though I looked it up and he would

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten a bigger part. But for a moment or

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 2>two I did look it up. It looked so much

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>like him. Benson's like, whoops. And now we're at work.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Finn's at work. They're chatting a case. Octavio is spinning

0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 2>in his chair and Finn is like, it's a you know,

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>explains that it's a fifteen year old gun. Too many prints.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's better to have no prince than too

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>many prints. Benson walks in works chic ready and right

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>away she's talking about this gun, Mattie's case.

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Let's go, let's go, Finn, this is one of my zingers.

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 2>He goes that gun's been passed around more than little

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Nikki Kriesi at his baptism, which is like, so does

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>not roll off the tongue, but ice makes it work.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Ice makes it works. So FBI guys here. She hates

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>his ass. She goes to her office to meet him.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>He looks like a twerp, but we'd love to have

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 2>him on the pod. He's been in four episodes. Josh

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Cook gives us on eleven episodes of Dexter, which I

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>can't even I can't have them, but you know, thrilled

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>to see him. And so then you know, she's like, well,

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you're here to take my case. He goes, no, I'm

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>actually here to help and coordinate. We're going to get

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's like, oh, of course, state lines,

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>sex dolls. Of course, yeah, we're going to be involved,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, yeah, we're going to try to do

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 2>federal child porn charges with the Maddie case, we got

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to link up with SVU and we're going to link

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>you up with our child abduction Response team cards. And

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 2>she's like shocked at this teamwork. So I bet he's

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>going to fuck her over. But we cut to hot

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 2>lesbian couple in the kitchen and they're talking about their honeymoon.

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>You know they're planning it, Natalie and Brook. They're going

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>to an island. One of them hates swimming. You know,

0:32:54.920 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 2>she's scared of sharks, sharts, stays in, stays in a

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I bet she's scared of sharks.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Are we all? But it's sharks. It's sharks sharks.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 2>So they flirt and you know, they're like talking cocktails.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 2>One of them has to go to work. The other

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm gonna go to the mall and buy

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 2>sexy bathing suits. So she has a bunch of one pieces.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I see a bright pink one, I'm into she but

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 2>she's trying on a white one and there's like a

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 2>metal circles right below the boobs with like ropes going

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>in and out, and she hears noises, so she goes

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>out to see what's happening from the dressing room and

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>she freezes, like fully frozen in this white bathing suit,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>and it's a smash and grab tons of people dressed

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 2>in black. There's like twenty to thirty of them, all

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>ransacking the store, grabbing whatever they can. Two guys are

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 2>making a video like what's up, you know, TikTok video

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>of committing crime.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 3>One young man sees the bathing suit woman.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>She starts to run away, too late, girl, and you know,

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>we can assume what happens. So sadly, we have velasco

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Benson and Finn and they meet up and Finn calls

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 2>him money bags.

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Because he sees Bruno. Yeah, so he goes, oh, hey,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>money bags, how'd you get here fast? He's like, I

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>had my driver take me. I'm literally so loaded. I

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>got all of NYPD's money and now I'm trolling them

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>by still working for them.

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, masked s looters basically, and a saleswoman got groped,

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and so that's who we're here to talk to, those

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>groped saleswoman. She's like, he tore off my shirt, he

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 2>groped me, and he was white, bad skin pimples teen

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>and so inside, Benson and Finn are with a uniform

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>cop and they're walking through the store, and of course

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Benson she hears faint sobbing, so she enters the employees

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>only like storage closet. There's a steamer in the corner,

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>so she finds our victim. She's still in the white

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>bathing suit. She has blood on her face and she's

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 2>huddled in a corner crying. She's really in shock. Natalie

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 2>is her name. Benson's like, I got you now, gives

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 2>her her jacket. This actress incredible. We call for a bus.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>She's really fun up over this and crying, and we

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>just hit the credits. This isn't this opening scene over

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>six minutes long? I bet?

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 3>I bet?

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.959
<v Speaker 2>Not only is this the lowest rated episode of all time,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.320
<v Speaker 2>this might be the longest intro of all time. Yeah,

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>wow fully, like a jog set, a lesbian set, a

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>store set, and then a crime scene.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like four different sets.

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of and we met at the precincts

0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>already too. This intro had five locations. This is the

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>longest cold open of all time for sure.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 3>So we're back.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 2>She's in the hospital and Benson's trying to get information.

0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Last thing she remembers was trying on a bathing suit

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 2>in the dressing room. She heard commotion outside. She went

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>back to look and a man was there. Suspenseful music

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>plays and she gathers her thoughts. He forced her back

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 2>in there, took off her suit, like moved it. She says.

0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 2>He seemed young. She has tears in her eye. She's like,

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>he had his mask on. I don't want to talk

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 2>to get me Brooke. I want Brooke like, go fuck yourself.

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 2>We see Brooks, She's distraught. Finn and Velasco are with her,

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, what the fuck. It was the middle

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>of a day in a fancy boutique and it's like,

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, babe, that looked like an H and M.

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not a fancy a Zara at best. But maybe

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm off. Maybe I'm off. It was definitely a department store.

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.479
<v Speaker 1>It was big, so I thought I was thinking maybe

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Nordstrom or something. But I did it really clock any

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of the clothes? No, you're right, they were like smashing

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 1>through the glass. It was more department store, but it

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 1>gave them. I want to know where they filmed it.

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I am curious. But anyway, but she says fancy boutique.

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean fancy for who that's subjective to.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 2>That's true. They seem rich though, you know. But she's pissed.

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>She goes, how did this happen? Where are the witnesses?

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 3>Like? What happened to the city? Baby? This is New York.

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean when.

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Did the cr Like what, yeah, I guess smash and grabs?

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna cover that. I'm a sou Yeah, yeah, Like

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 2>I get that's like maybe a newer phenomenon, but in

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>terms of like things happening in the city, it's kind

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 2>of one of it's it's also ye stitch characteristics or

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>at least stereotypes, you know what I mean. And the

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 2>whole thing was it used to be less safe in

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the eighties, you know what I mean. So it's like

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 2>it's just what part of the city are you living in?

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And where did you come from? Nebraska?

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay?

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 2>So she says, are the police trying to prove some

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 2>point or something? Of Alesco's like what wait? What what

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 2>am I? What am I? What am I missing?

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 2>And I'm as lost as he is, and she says

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>that we still need you. So this is you know,

0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, a cab vibes, and so she scoffs and

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>she walks off.

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 3>She's pissed.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Benson's on the phone complaining that the press is there

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and we need them gone before they start harassing you know,

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 2>her victim and Finn again another funny line from Finn,

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>he goes, wow, twenty twenty four is off to a

0:37:54.880 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>rowdy start. Rowdy is only a word so used in

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 2>cheerleading or like you know, softball cheers like.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Borrow wd I e lets yet right, like, it's not

0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 3>for a detective.

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not for a seasoned, grizzled detective of decades, but like,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess it is a he says, two media cases

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 2>in a week. Bruno does have a connect at Major

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Case who's been working on the smash and grabs, and

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 2>so he's gonna give them access to all the security footage.

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 2>So we're watching the footage, and even though Natalie said

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>she did not see his face in the video, we

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>see that the guy does take his mask off before

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>he attacks her. So I wonder what's going down. So

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Taru also found the kids recording of you know that

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>we saw getting recorded and it has eighty thousand views

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and one of the guys in the TikTok video looks

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 2>like he's one of the guys that pushed Natalie. We

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 2>do see him taking off his mask, but all the

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 2>footage is from the back, like we do not see

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 2>his face, but it's the same guy like hair wise.

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 2>So Travis Butler is the guy that posts of the videos,

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 2>so we're gonna go get him. But also lol, to

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>post the video of yourself committing like a giant crime

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 2>onto the internet does not make sense to me. But

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I like, you're wearing a mask for secrecy, but then

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 2>you're posting it online. So they rest his ass and

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.440
<v Speaker 2>he does not look like good news. And then Benson says,

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I hope the clicks were worth it. And I look

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>look at my note I wrote, this episode is fire.

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Do you see it? Like?

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 2>I can't I like love this episode again, I can't

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 2>believe it. This episode is fire well in terms of

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>like like like like.

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>We like stuff when it's like campy and there's stuff

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>we can like make fun of, and there's plenty in

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>this you know, So this episode is fire.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 2>He goes, listen, I only took this shirt. Take it

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and he takes his shirt off and he goes, we're

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>done here, like the confidence of this guy.

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 3>Bruno and Carisi are there. They laugh at him.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Bruno's like, it's not about what you stole, and then

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Carisi goes, but thanks for your admission of guilt. They

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>say they only care about the rape, and I love that.

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 2>He's just like shirtless fully and he's wearing a gold

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 2>cross necklace. Bruno shows the video and says, what do

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>you guys call it a collab like it's funny. He says,

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 2>that is not my friend, and they're like, well, he's

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>a rapist, so tell us who it is. Give us

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 2>a name, bitch, and there's tense music. He says, well,

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>what do I get? And Chreasy goes a deal for

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 2>the smash and grab.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Duh.

0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 2>He's like, listen, I only met him outside the store

0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't see anyone's face without a mask, I

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>swear to God. And he does have the gold necklace.

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 2>But so we're at zero. This guy's not giving us anything.

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 2>But Bruno's friend found the kids on discord and I

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that is. And guess what, I didn't

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 2>google it. I don't give a fuck, So there, I

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>know what it is. I know they're chatting, but what Yeah,

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just like it's just it's chats. Yeah, It's like

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like online chats.

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>But it's funny to me because Discord I thought was

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>more for like gamers and nerds, like Jared uses it

0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot for his stuff that he does for his gaming.

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:02.799
<v Speaker 1>But like Bitch Sash Bravo podcast that like you, they

0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have a discord, Like all kinds of places now have

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 1>discords for you to just it's like whereas people used

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 1>to chat, it's like another place to chat that's not

0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Instagram comments, I guess, and you can just chat with

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 1>other people that like the same thing you do and

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about you know, episodes or strategies or whatever.

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay cool, yeah, connected to the youth. Yeah, so whatever,

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>they monitor the chat. They're doing a raid. We have

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 2>all these people, but all these guys are gonna be

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 2>out in twenty four hours, right like on bail or whatever.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Benson he's like, fuck, can we get these people on

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.439
<v Speaker 2>sex crimes? We need to get someone on a sex crime.

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>And Creasey goes it seems like you're going crazy. Do

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you think it's because of Maddie? And Benson goes shut

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the fuck up. I want to find these guys. Finch

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>ups in and goes, hey, babe, I'll pull an all

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>nighter if that's what you need, That's what I'm gonna do.

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.439
<v Speaker 2>She goes thanks, and then Careesy realizes he's a dumb

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.799
<v Speaker 2>piece of shit trying to speak to Benson like that.

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So she's gonna put you you're letting these old guys

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 2>stay up all night.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 3>What are you up to?

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Careesy stop with her negativity.

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 3>So whatever.

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 2>He's a lawyer now, so they're gonna push it to

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 2>the limit and they're going to make this happen.

0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 3>So whatever.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>They're like arguing about what to do next, and finally

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes, Okay, you're right, let's make the pool smaller

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>before we go fishing. So that's kind of exciting. So

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.760
<v Speaker 2>let's bring Jenny and Natalie and have the idea mugshot.

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Jenny is the store clerk. We just learned her name.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 2>It's Jenny. So anyways, we bring them in and the

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 2>store clerk finds her green eyed pimple groper and she

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 2>is sure she you know, on the iPad, that is him.

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But our girl Natalie doesn't recognize any of them, and

0:42:32.520 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 2>she has like such a fucking attitude, but she you know,

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>obviously was attacked, so I understand, but she goes, no,

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>my mind is blank.

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.279
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen this. And then she's like, well, why

0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>were these men arrested for?

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:42.640
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 2>What are they arrested for? And Bruno goes robbery. I

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>think you were there. You were there for that, and

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 2>and she's like are you sure, and Benson goes, yeah,

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 2>we have them on video and then we have them

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 2>like they have the items in their possession. Yeah, and

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 2>she goes, well, I just want to be sure and

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>again rude but trauma okay. And then so she goes,

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 2>did you get any evidence from the rape kid I had?

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 2>And they go no, there's no DNA, but like, are

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you sure you didn't see the face? And Bruno goes

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 2>because we actually saw the video and he did take

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 2>his mask off, and she's like oh, and she's like, well,

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if I saw the face, like I

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Knock knock, it's our boyfriend.

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Benson goes to meet him, and so pimple Groper's trying

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>to make a deal and says he can connect him

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.319
<v Speaker 2>to their fence and so Benson goes, oh fuck, they

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 2>sell all their stuff to one guy. We got to

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>go find him. So they bring him in and I

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>guess that's what offence is. So then he's really fun.

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 2>He's relaxed. He goes, I'm not stealing, I just resell it,

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>and then Velasko goes relax Crispy so his name is Crispy,

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>which lol, And he denies knowing about the rape, and

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 2>he's being light and trying to make it silly, and

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Finn finally is like, motherfucker's CSUS at your apartment right now,

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 2>we have evidence, So do you want to help us

0:43:57.640 --> 0:43:57.799
<v Speaker 2>or not?

0:43:58.000 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't. What are you?

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 2>What are you playing games for right now? So then

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 2>he goes, fine, okay, there's one kid bragging about how

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 2>we grab more than just clothes. And then in this

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.200
<v Speaker 2>moment we hear commotion. We're like, what's going on. It's

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a fucking smash and grab at the NYPD. This is

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 2>humiliating to all of them. Holy shit, there's dozens of

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 2>people chairs, throwing glasses, breaking tables are being flipped like

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you're the NYPD. And then some uniform cop polls are

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 2>gun on someone and goes drop the laptop and Benson goes,

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 2>lower your weapon, lower your weapon, and she keeps yelling

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.359
<v Speaker 2>about some laptop and Benson goes, these are teenagers, and

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.080
<v Speaker 2>the uniform cop goes, there's right and wrong, and Benson

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>stares her down and goes, nobody's getting shot here today.

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you understand me? And you know, she goes, where's

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>my backup? But it is crazy, like, yeah, there's right

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 2>and wrong, and I guess you should murder someone from

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>stealing a laptop, but also like the fact that there's

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 2>a smash and grab at your office is not on

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 2>the first floor of a police station is crazy. This

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>is where I think the episode falls off.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 3>The rails, right, how would this even happen? Like, I

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 3>just there's cops. Well, I will you what happens.

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>So she's on the phone with the chief, the place

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 1>is a mess, and the desk sergeant from downstairs is

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>on suspension.

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:12.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean maybe.

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Fire him, okay, one desk sergeant, I mean, are there not?

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 1>It's just so, how do you get suspended as a

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>desk sergeant.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought I'm tasing people.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought you got suspended for doing something bad in

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the field, and then you became the desk sergeant. What

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>did he do bad at the desk that he got suspended? Well,

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>he let people in. Yeah, oh oh, he's suspended. I

0:45:34.320 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 1>thought that's why they got in. Okay, See now I'm

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>so confused. I thought you were saying the reason they

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>all got in is because the desk sergeant that would

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>normally have stopped anybody coming in, yeah, had been suspended.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:46.359
<v Speaker 1>But you're saying he has been suspended because of what

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>has happened here. Okay.

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Still, there's cops.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>And these teens in tase them, like you don't have

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 2>to murder them, but you can't someone.

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.160
<v Speaker 1>On the back of the head with the butt of

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>your gun, Like there's other ways you can, fucking like, like,

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, disarm people.

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 3>It's so crazy.

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Cariesy walks in and he's like, fuck, it took twenty

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 2>minutes to get up here with security in finn again

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 2>with a with a nail with a nail.

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what I'm saying.

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>NYPD always responds best after it's too late, and I

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:21.920
<v Speaker 2>feel that, but it could have been worse.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 3>So what is this about? They have eight kids collared.

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Travis Butler, the shirtless guy, he's one of them, so

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.400
<v Speaker 2>he's just like an attention junkie. He live streamed his

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>arrests and now at least they have more leverage and

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 2>he got one hundred thousand views though, so he is humped.

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>So Bruno and Crisy, you are threatening him with like

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time or he needs to out the rapist.

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.800
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, he doesn't want to talk because it's actually

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 2>his friend since fifth grade. He doesn't want to give

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>him up. And they're like, we know you've known him

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, but he is a rapist. The

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 2>guy's getting emotional, but does give up his friend, who's

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Jay Watson.

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 3>And now they bring in Jay.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 2>They basically wired Travis and have all this evident and

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>they bring him in and he admitted to taking something

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>that didn't belong to him, which you know, if he

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 2>has a good lawyer can play it. And anyway, and

0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Natalie has a shaky ID. There's also no DNA, so

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 2>we need a confession or there needs to be more evidence,

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>but Natalie is still not being helpful. Benson has to

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.919
<v Speaker 2>beg her to help this case. Reassures her nobody will

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 2>pressure her either way, just come make an ID, and

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Benson's like, if you recognize him, and she's like, what

0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 2>if I don't, And she's like, then you don't like girl,

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm on your side. So they bring the guys into

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the lineup. She starts to look uncomfortable. She IDs him

0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 2>immediately she goes number three. She's sure that's him, Like,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 2>that's it, Like there's nothing else. Coreesy still needs more.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, you know, DNA hungry. So something comes to

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Benson and he's and she goes, oh my god, the

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 2>sticker liner in the bathing suit, the hygienic liner. Where

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 2>is it? I'm sure Csu was a dumb man and

0:47:53.880 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what it was. So suspenseful music plays.

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.279
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, can I just say, do you remember when

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you win thisisode first came on you texted me about this. No,

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you were like, when this episode was first on, you

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>texted me You're like, you're gonna die tonight's episode. You

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:10.480
<v Speaker 1>were like you were like the liner, Oh my god,

0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the hygienic liner.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 3>And I go what?

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 1>And then I watched the episode, I was like, what

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>is happening? Like, of course liv knows about the hygienic liner.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 3>That I wouldn't know one.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, so it's bagged with other evidence, but it

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 2>was like probably still in the crowd. Oh maybe it

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>like came out with the damage and was on the ground.

0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like just test it, test it. I

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 2>don't get that, but they got for Benson and I

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 2>can't believe I texted you and she's on the stand.

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Should we make stickers that look like liners? Okay?

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Caresy as the liner in an evidence bag and shows

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>it to the jury slowly, and Benson explains, like what

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 2>it is on the stand and how CSU failed to

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>get it to the lab. But Jay Watson's DNA is

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.880
<v Speaker 2>on it, and it came off during the brutal attack,

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. Objections, objection, And now it's Carter, the defense

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 2>attorney's time to play, and he goes to the baby,

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 2>said no DNA, and then all of a sudden, you

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 2>get to spin it find a sticker after some idea.

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>He's just playing a fucking game, and the judge is like, okay,

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>we know that's not true.

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Like stop.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 2>The fiance is staring at the rapist team and Benson

0:49:21.120 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 2>then meets her in the bench in the court in

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:27.040
<v Speaker 2>court hallway. She's not doing good and neither is her fiance.

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>They're really struggling. She's like, you know, she goes, it's

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 2>also not just about the attack. We're aware of the

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>systemic inequalities that exist in the criminal justice system, and

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, we just have concerned that he might not

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:41.720
<v Speaker 2>get a fair trial. And Benson's like, I cannot deny

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 2>there's a history of racial bias. And then this woman

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 2>just say, yeah, how do you do this every day?

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And she goes, listen, my priority and focus is on healing, okay,

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And now Natalie is on the stands, so that's the priority.

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 2>She does ask to go pee first. And now she's

0:49:58.120 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 2>on the stand. I don't know why we had to

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 2>see this Pece break, but we saw it. So she's

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 2>telling her truth on the stand. She's having a hard

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 2>time but getting it all out, but she does not

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 2>want to identify him. She's biting her lip. You know,

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 2>there's chatter everywhere. The judge calls orders, she's not answering.

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>The judge does give Cresey a fifteen minute recess, which

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 2>seems unlikely. Natalie is frozen. The defense attorney is confused.

0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Benson is in shock. We're in the hallway and she

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is just very affected at how you know, young he looks,

0:50:26.680 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and how the jacket is big on him, and Creasy's like,

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 2>I've never had a case go sideways because of tailoring.

0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.200
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck is going on?

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And She's like, listen, you know, my parents are a

0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:40.879
<v Speaker 2>bit religious and they used to foster children. And her

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 2>brother Yves from Cameroon, when he came around twelve, they

0:50:44.800 --> 0:50:46.880
<v Speaker 2>were like in a you know, in a store, and

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 2>she dared him to steal a pack of gum and

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 2>they arrested this child but not her, and he had

0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 2>to go to Juvie and she and Crisa goes apples

0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 2>and oranges, this is different and she goes no, like

0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he had a record and it pushed him down this

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 2>awful path and I'm just like against everything, and ben

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.479
<v Speaker 2>Sup goes, no, I hate that too, but this guy

0:51:05.600 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 2>did rape you. Like I don't know how to get

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 2>this through to you. It is kind of it is

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:11.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of nuts.

0:51:12.120 --> 0:51:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Like the premise here is nuts, you know, like we

0:51:15.960 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>all believe, like I mean.

0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm the most liberal person ever.

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I still don't think we should be saying that anybody that, like,

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, first of all, yeah, the pack of gum,

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm having a hard time believing that your juvenile

0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:36.360
<v Speaker 1>record for petty theft actually like was not like affect like,

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it probably does affect things that you know,

0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like as a young child that people are suspicious of

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you and like, you know, but it's just such a

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.799
<v Speaker 1>different fucking thing someone committed a violent crime against you.

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think this is where a lot of

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>people lose this episode. Yeah, I guess it's disrespectful.

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 3>To rape victims like blah blah blah.

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 2>I can't I get the sentiment they were trying to

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 2>touch within the culture because it was like, you know,

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 2>under I feel like this these were discussions happening in

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>this time or like it was a thing where it's like,

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>are you gonna think twice before calling the cops? If

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.560
<v Speaker 2>like that call can endanger someone's life. Like, I get

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.959
<v Speaker 2>what they were trying to do, but it does seem

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 2>hard to not want your rapists put away. But then

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:27.040
<v Speaker 2>she goes into it. She goes, I have money, I

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 2>can go to therapy. I'm gonna get better. But if

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 2>this teenager goes to prison, he might not be okay. Ever, yeah,

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Craasy thinks about it. Natalie cries. She says she doesn't

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.520
<v Speaker 2>want that, and she runs off. Benson runs after her.

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:43.000
<v Speaker 2>They meet in the bathroom. She's like, babe, you're doing

0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the wrong thing for the right reason. Jay Watson is

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:49.479
<v Speaker 2>a criminal. She goes, he's eighteen, he's not anything yet,

0:52:49.840 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 2>and Benson goes, he took a chance to victimize you.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 2>He saw a chance to victimize you, and he took it.

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 2>And you know, but she feels guilty, and Benson on

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:02.960
<v Speaker 2>stands and also says, you know, I will stand with

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 2>you no matter what decision you make. But he raped

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 2>you so violently. And Benson, you know, like Aladdin before

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 2>her asks do you trust me? And she's and she's panting.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.480
<v Speaker 2>So Natalie's back on the stand. She points to him.

0:53:21.520 --> 0:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>He looks down in shame. Crisey asks why she couldn't

0:53:24.600 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 2>do it earlier, and she goes. She answers, slowly but confidently,

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 2>as a victim of a crime, my decision not to

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.240
<v Speaker 2>testify was rooted in a familial trauma that goes beyond

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.359
<v Speaker 2>the immediate circumstances of Jay's crime. The defense attorney, of course,

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.239
<v Speaker 2>is like, yeah, yeah, you sound noble, but it's bullshit that, like,

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, you didn't just come up with this. You

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:45.440
<v Speaker 2>had time, you talked to the detective, you talked to

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the prosecutor, and now suddenly you have this little answer,

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:50.319
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we know what game he's playing. He

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 2>has a job to do, but he's being aggressive and

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 2>she is staying calm, and she's like, he did it,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 2>whether I talked to the lead detective or prosecutor or not.

0:53:58.560 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 2>He brings up white guilt and that it shouldn't dictate

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.279
<v Speaker 2>if his client is guilty, and she says, I made

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a mistake. There are so many people in prison that

0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 2>don't deserve to be there, and she goes, but how

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:10.040
<v Speaker 2>do you? And he goes, how do you know Jay

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Watson is not one of them? And she screams, the

0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 2>one only thing I'm sure of is that your client

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>raped me.

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:17.520
<v Speaker 3>And she screams and points at him.

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Jay has a lot of facial expressions and emotions and

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 2>he looks deep into her eyes. Knock, knock to Careesy,

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 2>it's mister Carter. The client changes mind. He wants a plea,

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and Creasy's like, well, I got your ass, Like why

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>would I be open to a plea? He says, you

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 2>can ask him yourself. So Jay walks in head hanging low.

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Creasy stands up to meet him. Jay walks up, still

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>in court clothing and says, that girl, Natalie, I did

0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:44.879
<v Speaker 2>what she said. She ain't lying. He really feels bad. Look,

0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I wrote it again. This is such a good epiff.

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 4>It's in the notes.

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.719
<v Speaker 3>It's in the notes. You love it. You love it.

0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Lowest on IMDb, highest on Li's dB. I wrote in

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>two compliments, two times. You were like, I can't get

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 1>over how great this is. But I like this part. Listen,

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he goes. I took something something I can't give back.

0:55:14.760 --> 0:55:16.680
<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be a robbery. But when I

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:17.160
<v Speaker 1>saw her.

0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:21.359
<v Speaker 2>My whole life, nobody paid attention to anything I did,

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 2>not at home, not at school. I always felt kind

0:55:24.120 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 2>of invisible. Why would this be any different? What I

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 2>did to Natalie changed her life forever. So I guess

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I finally learned my lesson just too late. I guess

0:55:34.000 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 2>that's because you thought you would just get away with it.

0:55:36.239 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 3>You did it. Is that the invisible part.

0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 1>No one pays attention to anything I do, so I

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 1>can just do whatever I want, like rape someone I

0:55:44.600 --> 0:55:48.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I don't know. I guess, yeah, Well, Corisey says,

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 1>it's never too late to learn. It might be well,

0:55:51.760 --> 0:55:54.600
<v Speaker 1>he said, you'll do time, but not your whole life,

0:55:54.680 --> 0:55:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and you still have life ahead of you. Taking responsibility

0:55:57.840 --> 0:56:01.279
<v Speaker 1>is only the first step. He's you know, Crisey's gonna

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 1>talk to Natalie and see. I'm sure they'll be fine

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>with it. I hope he does less than ten. Yeah,

0:56:07.320 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking.

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Ten? He's eighteen, he's eighteen. Yeah.

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's a deal, and I think Natalie wants

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>to be involved in it.

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the minimum is.

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want like a rapist to not get the

0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 2>full minimum, but I wonder what this plea would be,

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and I wish they added it.

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 3>But in my head, I'm like maybe ten.

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Christi and Benson walk and talk. He says justice

0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 2>was done, and Benson goes today and then they talk

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 2>about Maddie and then they head in the elevator. They

0:56:40.160 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 2>sigh and that's dick wolf baby.

0:56:43.360 --> 0:56:44.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know.

0:56:44.680 --> 0:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this is such a ham fisted,

0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:51.719
<v Speaker 1>like attempt at talking about racial inequalities in the justice system.

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we've done they've done it in I don't know

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 1>about better ways, but like more like we've covered other

0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 1>episodes where it's like that have more clearly illustrated the

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:06.799
<v Speaker 1>bias and an NYPD and how people get falsely accused

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and the full like the Simple Shepherd episode, which we

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:12.360
<v Speaker 1>haven't done yet, Like the Simple Shepherd episode that was

0:57:12.400 --> 0:57:15.279
<v Speaker 1>based on Trevon Martin, you know, like they've done other episodes.

0:57:15.320 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 3>We haven't covered that one yet, so.

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember how well they handle that, But this

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.640
<v Speaker 1>one just seems like it Also, it doesn't that feel

0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit white savior to you too, a little

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>bit that these ladies are like maybe we just like

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:29.080
<v Speaker 1>won't help with the investigation at all because we're such

0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>good people and we'll just like let this person possibly

0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 1>do this to another person, you know, like regardless of

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>like the trauma that this kid has gone through. He

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>went he was in the middle in the commission of

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.720
<v Speaker 1>another crime, he saw a woman standing there in a

0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.800
<v Speaker 1>bathing suit, helpless and decided to attack her.

0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Also, if you're in a bathing suit in a dressing

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 1>room and you hear fucking smash and grab happing outside,

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in what world are you just like not hiding in

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a corner, and like why would you come out and

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:00.320
<v Speaker 1>be like, wow, a robbery, Like why why would she

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.520
<v Speaker 1>have even come out like that?

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Seemed crazy? But I don't want to victim blame no,

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.520
<v Speaker 2>But it's just the thing of being frozen, you know.

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like one of the responses to trauma. And she

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to do. But I would have hoped

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 2>that I wouldn't leave. But if they entered in, yeah,

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's like, well, it's also a cultural thing.

0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, Black people run, White people say what's going on? Oh,

0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of the stereotype.

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Well there is like fight or flight things also like

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>what like people are just different. Also, like my sister

0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and I one time saw this guy, a huge group

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of people gathered around a guy fighting with a homeless person,

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and I got involved and my sister was down the block.

0:58:49.000 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Like by the time I even looked looked up, like

0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I was like.

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? Leave him alone?

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:55.400
<v Speaker 1>And my sister was like at Dwayne read she was

0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.960
<v Speaker 1>like she just like is like I'm not here for that,

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Like she cannot be in confrontation, you know. So I

0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:02.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I hear what you're saying, Like it

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 1>is culturally different in a lot of ways too. But

0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 1>if I'm in a bathing suit, I don't know, I'm

0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:09.120
<v Speaker 1>at least getting out of the bathing suit if I

0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:10.120
<v Speaker 1>hear the glass smashing.

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.600
<v Speaker 3>But a wild recap.

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for taking us through it and it being

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.520
<v Speaker 1>your favorite episode. I mean, I think honestly, I can't

0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>wait to see what episode on SATs this one because

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's the number one three.

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:27.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's funny because Intimidation Game was that yeah, was

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 2>at four point six. Whoa and then Truth Embargo is

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>at four point four out of ten.

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Wow are the ratings.

0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into the crime portion of the program. There

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 1>is not like an exact crime like this, like like this,

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about smashing grabs, but like there was

0:59:52.840 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>not a sexual assault that happened during one that is

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that has been reported. So yeah, and I will say

0:59:59.640 --> 1:00:01.160
<v Speaker 1>this is all so the first time I've used a

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<v Speaker 1>Deadline article as a source in when I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Been doing my work. But this episode is based.

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<v Speaker 1>On the trend of flash robberies or flash robs they're

1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:13.360
<v Speaker 1>calling them, that rocked Southern California in the summer of

1:00:13.360 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three aka flash mob Summer as one of

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the one of the articles I read called it. Group

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<v Speaker 1>robberies have like always been an issue in southern California,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the time it's like high school teen

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<v Speaker 1>boys like swarming a convenience store and like grabbing a

1:00:27.600 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 1>bunch of shit at seven eleven. You know, like that's

1:00:30.200 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 1>mostly what the cops have been dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, in my head, it seemed like, especially in Chicago,

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.680
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like all the Blue Lives Matter, like conservative

1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:42.840
<v Speaker 2>type people were all like the smash and grubs, you know,

1:00:42.920 --> 1:00:46.560
<v Speaker 2>it seemed like not a maybe it was happening, but

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<v Speaker 2>not as much. And then they just had all these

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.480
<v Speaker 2>cops swarm downtown Chicago and all these stores and like,

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<v Speaker 2>so to me, I was hearing about it, but it

1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:56.439
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was absolutely politicized. Okay, you're correct, it was absolutely politicized,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will get into that.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I went, these aren't really happening, and they were happening

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:08.720
<v Speaker 1>in the city I lived in, so there I remember

1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:14.720
<v Speaker 1>hearing about these and thinking, but hearing specifically people say, oh,

1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the right is elevating these like they do that illegal

1:01:20.240 --> 1:01:23.160
<v Speaker 1>immigrants are killing people all the time, when it's actually

1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:27.680
<v Speaker 1>many like the majority of murders are committed by American citizens,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Like this was like another

1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:31.640
<v Speaker 1>little passion issue for the right to be like the

1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:35.440
<v Speaker 1>smash and grabs. But let me get into what was

1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.200
<v Speaker 1>happening first and then we'll get into the politics of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the flash robs are much more coordinated and organized

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<v Speaker 1>than these like seven eleventeen swarm things. Okay, So in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, the Nordstrom at the Tapanga Mall, the

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<v Speaker 1>eve S Saint Laurent at the Americana and the Glendale

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<v Speaker 1>which is my mall that I go to, and a

1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:58.560
<v Speaker 1>pop up Gucci at South Coast Plaza were all targets.

1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 1>There were dozens of smash and grab robberies like this

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that took place where basically a group of thieves ten

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to forty people would enter the store, faces covered usually

1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:11.080
<v Speaker 1>all black, and then grab a ton of expensive items

1:02:11.080 --> 1:02:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and bolt and like.

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<v Speaker 3>The goal was obviously to overwhelm.

1:02:13.520 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Security and then they would sell the items online or

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:21.200
<v Speaker 1>fence them. And now employees are trained really not to

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.640
<v Speaker 1>engage or stop the robberies. I also heard something recently

1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:25.880
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know if it's true or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've heard this that if you steal

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<v Speaker 1>something anything in like a Target, a Walmart, a big

1:02:32.360 --> 1:02:35.120
<v Speaker 1>box store that's under seven hundred dollars, like security is

1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:37.480
<v Speaker 1>not going to fuck with you, like they're just they've

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<v Speaker 1>been told to like not engage and get like and

1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>have altercations happen because it's just built into what the

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<v Speaker 1>big box stores are like losing.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I also heard that like it's illegal to confront, not illegal,

1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:56.280
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of us won't even confirm they won't

1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.520
<v Speaker 2>confront people. Then you hear about people getting arrested and stuff,

1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:03.040
<v Speaker 2>but like, yeah, you're supposed to just let people go

1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:04.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's worse, I think, to accuse someone and then

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<v Speaker 2>they haven't stolen something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's like if someone goes in and gets

1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like a four hundred dollars flat screen, can you just

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<v Speaker 1>like walk out with that? Like I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so like yeah, but this might also be bullshit, Like

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<v Speaker 1>this one article I'm seeing now says it's actually nine

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty. I said seven hundred dollars, like under seiling

1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:25.400
<v Speaker 1>merchandise under nine to fifty is just a misdemeanor, and

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<v Speaker 1>that there was also this thing called Prop. Forty seven

1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that passed in California to reclassify felony thefts as misdemeanors,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to

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<v Speaker 1>go unprosecuted.

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<v Speaker 3>But that I'm not really talking about prosecution.

1:03:39.080 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about like the stores basically telling their security

1:03:42.000 --> 1:03:44.880
<v Speaker 1>people who often don't carry weapons or have really any

1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:47.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of authority besides a vest that says security. I

1:03:47.920 --> 1:03:51.520
<v Speaker 1>think they're mostly telling them don't don't go after like

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<v Speaker 1>just leave it or whatever. So I don't know, I

1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:55.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know if anyone has any firsthand experience that that

1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:57.920
<v Speaker 1>if their job telling them that, let us know. So

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<v Speaker 1>these thieves would be like in and out in minute,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would use multiple getaway cars, so the police

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<v Speaker 1>could never get there fast enough and they could never

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<v Speaker 1>like follow the like the right car, or like know

1:04:07.200 --> 1:04:09.240
<v Speaker 1>where they were going. A lot of the getaway cars

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<v Speaker 1>were rented under fake names or something called cold plating.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that was called when you put on

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<v Speaker 1>like a stolen license plate. And we did have a

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<v Speaker 1>license plate stolen off our car in twenty nineteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the police and made a report about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was nervous that someone was going to use

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<v Speaker 1>our license plate in a crime. So I was like

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<v Speaker 1>I just need I like brought rosy in in a

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<v Speaker 1>baby carrier. It was like I need to fill out

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<v Speaker 1>a report about my missing license plate. So anyway, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were having a hard time simply getting there on

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<v Speaker 1>time and even chasing anyone, law enforcement ended up focusing

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<v Speaker 1>more on cell phone tower pings and other tech tools

1:04:44.960 --> 1:04:48.720
<v Speaker 1>to narrow down suspects. And the crazy thing about these

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<v Speaker 1>crimes is that the perpetrators don't always know one another.

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<v Speaker 1>It's truly kind of like a flash mob, like where

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<v Speaker 1>they're like be here at this time, you know, on discord,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah maybe yeah, Like maybe they're Discord. They're on like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably on signal, they're on like encrypted apps maybe WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 1>like and they're communicating over social and seeing like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the plan. But they're not necessarily all childhood friends

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<v Speaker 1>like the guys in this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>As of early.

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<v Speaker 1>December of twenty twenty three, police in LA were investigating

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<v Speaker 1>as many as twenty one flash robs, as they called them,

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<v Speaker 1>and plenty others were going on in neighboring counties. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is just in La County, and there's plenty going

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<v Speaker 1>on in other counties. The two biggest heights were at

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<v Speaker 1>the maholes I visit the most, the Americana in Glendale

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<v Speaker 1>on August eighth, where they stole three one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of merchandise, and the Tapanga Mall in Canoga Park,

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<v Speaker 1>where my accountant is on.

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<v Speaker 2>They charge them all for that four hundred thousand or

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<v Speaker 2>just what each of them is found with or do

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<v Speaker 2>they not find anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know. I don't even know how much?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that like how robberies are prosecuted based on the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money of something something's worth?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know, I have no idea. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I act like I know stuff, and then I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure we have so many like lawyers and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess it's like, yeah, do you get the same.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's obviously petty theft a pack of.

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<v Speaker 1>Gum, as we discussed, But then there's if I go

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<v Speaker 1>into a mall and I steal fifty thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of purses or I steal two hundred thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of purses. Is there a difference based on the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money and like number of things. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's it's also yeah, it's like value is who

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<v Speaker 1>fucking knows. So at the Tapanga Mall in Kenoka Park

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<v Speaker 1>on August twelfth, it was one hundred k worth of merch.

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<v Speaker 1>But because these crimes often take place at big, busy malls,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also tons of video footage of them, which spreads

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<v Speaker 1>on TikTok and Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like lots of photos of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's security cam, there's people that just like put

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<v Speaker 2>up their.

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<v Speaker 3>Phones and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, nothing in the real life cases shows that the

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<v Speaker 1>guys were ever like videotaping themselves. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to get social media famous like the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the episode. But I think they are literally

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to sell the shit and make money. So

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<v Speaker 1>on August seventeenth, in La of twenty twenty three, a

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<v Speaker 1>task force was formed between the city and the county

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<v Speaker 1>Law Enforcement twenty two full time officers from around LA

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<v Speaker 1>County who could be resources of the local and county level,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as California Highway Patrols retail theft Unit. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all working together to try to find these guys now.

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<v Speaker 1>The district attorney in Orange County, Todd Spitzer, which Orange

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<v Speaker 1>County I guess in some recent election went blue, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would say is mostly a more red area. Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Spitzer tried to turn this political. He accused Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor of la and George Gascon, who is our

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<v Speaker 1>district attorney, for being too soft on crime. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Gascon just got voted out because of all the narratives

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<v Speaker 1>that he's too soft on crime. Spitzer said he would

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<v Speaker 1>quote thoroughly investigate and prosecute smash and grab to the

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<v Speaker 1>fullest extents of the law, which apparently for him, included

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<v Speaker 1>life sentences for six defendants used of holding customers and

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<v Speaker 1>employees at gunpoint while stealing more than eighty seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>in jewelry from the Jewelry Exchange in Tustin in April

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty two, the year before this was all

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<v Speaker 1>going on. So life sentence, A life sentence, is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I mean, that's where it's like again, like

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with liv It's like, sure, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy has the laptop, let's not kill a teenager.

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<v Speaker 3>He shouldn't have a laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's different when we're talking about I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to kill a guy that's a rapist either, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to prosecute a guy that's a rapist,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like I don't want anyone

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<v Speaker 1>to get murdered for Like that's why Jared and I

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<v Speaker 1>always have this conversation where like, yeah, if someone enters

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<v Speaker 1>our house to take our flat screen, it's like take it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not going to defend for my property. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't it's property, like I don't care, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>so help me carry it out, Yeah, like you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could get I'll get another one. If this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it faster, let me open up your trunk. So,

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks after the formation of the task force, they

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<v Speaker 1>had arrested fifteen people.

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>These people always get caught, Like they always figure out

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<v Speaker 1>who they are. Five suspects in the Eaves Sant Laurent

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<v Speaker 1>case were arrested, according to Glendale Police, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the robbers, Like when you look at some of the robberies,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the robbers just like literally have their sweatshirts

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up over their mouths, like they're not even they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even invest in a mask when they came to

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. So it's like they're these these are not

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<v Speaker 1>always like mastermind criminals, you know. And I do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of think there's a reason people are risking their lot,

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<v Speaker 1>like their freedom to do this. Guy, Like people are desperate,

1:09:29.479 --> 1:09:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, like for to do these kind of robberies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Of these, okay, So my thing is even after enough

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<v Speaker 1>of these happened that SVU had time to script, make

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<v Speaker 1>and release an episode about it. This episode came out

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<v Speaker 1>in January of twenty twenty four. In October of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, ten months later, there's another huge one at

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<v Speaker 1>the Westfield to Panga Mall in Kunoga Park, where there

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<v Speaker 1>has already been a heist in the summer of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, twelve suspects hit two retailers, stealing about nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand worth of stuff, and six people for adults

1:10:07.040 --> 1:10:09.799
<v Speaker 1>and two juveniles were arrested in connection with the robbery,

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<v Speaker 1>and the articles I read they were still looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the other six. The four adults were twenty six, twenty two, nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen, so the two others were literally probably sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and ste like kids, and according to this is just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of statistic about the national you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Retail Security Survey says that shoplifting, theft, and

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<v Speaker 1>organized retail crime cost businesses ninety four and a half

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars nationwide in twenty twenty one, and that organized

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<v Speaker 1>retail crime such as flash robberies account for about half

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<v Speaker 1>of that, So you know, that's forty seven billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Retailers are upping their tech solutions.

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<v Speaker 4>They're getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>Video surveillance systems, facial recognition cameras, license plate readers, radio

1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:58.719
<v Speaker 1>frequency identification tags, case locks, and they're also training their

1:10:58.920 --> 1:11:02.760
<v Speaker 1>staff and doing increased security. But they're also pushing legislation

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<v Speaker 1>to make increase theft penalties and making sharing information against

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<v Speaker 1>law enforcement agencies easier. Like I I don't care. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I really don't. I'm like, I wouldn't even increase

1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the theft penalties. You're always catching them, and there's honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I yes, I don't want anyone to be held by gunpoint,

1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:24.000
<v Speaker 1>but in almost all of these cases, I don't see

1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:27.320
<v Speaker 1>any physical crime, Like I don't think anyone's being hurt

1:11:27.880 --> 1:11:30.800
<v Speaker 1>physically psychologically. Of course, it's scary to be there when

1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:33.080
<v Speaker 1>people are holding guns and robbing a store, of course,

1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:35.400
<v Speaker 1>but like they're not shooting people, they're not trying to

1:11:35.439 --> 1:11:37.400
<v Speaker 1>kill people. They're literally just trying to grab shit and

1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:38.360
<v Speaker 1>go wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't care about business money because at the

1:11:40.920 --> 1:11:42.920
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, these businesses aren't spending money in

1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the way I like it. They're not like giving maternity

1:11:46.280 --> 1:11:49.520
<v Speaker 2>leave to people. They're not paying for people's health insurance.

1:11:49.680 --> 1:11:53.000
<v Speaker 2>They're not there's no there's no benefits. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if you lose a ninety something million dollars,

1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Why the fuck would I care?

1:11:56.880 --> 1:12:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like Walmart has like doesn't pay enough to or

1:12:00.280 --> 1:12:02.439
<v Speaker 1>it has like the most employees on food stamps and

1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:04.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and government assistant because they don't give

1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:05.040
<v Speaker 1>them benefits.

1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, and I'm supposed to care that you're that

1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:09.240
<v Speaker 2>people are stealing from you.

1:12:09.280 --> 1:12:11.120
<v Speaker 3>They do. They do deserve to steal from you.

1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:14.280
<v Speaker 2>And if maybe you guys weren't all so fucking evil,

1:12:14.520 --> 1:12:16.920
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't want to steal from you. Maybe if everyone

1:12:16.920 --> 1:12:20.400
<v Speaker 2>had an affordable way to live, you know, but go

1:12:20.439 --> 1:12:25.639
<v Speaker 2>fuck yourself. Yeah, happy, I told you, little Esther gave

1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:27.160
<v Speaker 2>me a fake Louis Vuitton Marikami.

1:12:28.040 --> 1:12:31.080
<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing that in the pictures and I wasn't

1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:32.800
<v Speaker 1>sure if it was real or not, and I didn't

1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:33.559
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to act.

1:12:33.600 --> 1:12:36.160
<v Speaker 2>But it's a really good fake. I basically walked into

1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait and tell you this. So like I

1:12:37.680 --> 1:12:40.519
<v Speaker 2>went to go meet her baby and I walk in

1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's hanging right at the door. You know, I've

1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:47.280
<v Speaker 2>been talking about this Marikami forever. And I go, oh

1:12:47.320 --> 1:12:49.280
<v Speaker 2>my god, I can't believe you fucking have I mean,

1:12:49.280 --> 1:12:50.760
<v Speaker 2>we went to high school together, we have like the

1:12:50.880 --> 1:12:53.840
<v Speaker 2>same stock, like we both like our tiffany, we like

1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:57.559
<v Speaker 2>our hugs, like we're very that. And so I was like,

1:12:57.600 --> 1:12:59.479
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it. And she goes, that's been waiting

1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:01.559
<v Speaker 2>for you. She goes, I've been wanting to give this

1:13:01.560 --> 1:13:03.559
<v Speaker 2>to you. And I go, are you fucking kidding me?

1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:05.679
<v Speaker 2>And she goes, it's fake. I go, I don't care,

1:13:05.720 --> 1:13:08.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's given me so much joy, Like I it's

1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the pattern. I like, like, I really don't and I'm

1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:12.200
<v Speaker 2>glad I didn't spend three thousand dollars.

1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:13.120
<v Speaker 3>It's almost.

1:13:14.880 --> 1:13:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I love telling comics who have no idea

1:13:17.080 --> 1:13:20.200
<v Speaker 2>about this I'm like they're Olivia Benson where they're like, well,

1:13:20.200 --> 1:13:21.000
<v Speaker 2>how much is the real one?

1:13:21.040 --> 1:13:23.000
<v Speaker 3>I go three thousand dollars. They're like, oh my god,

1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So our friend Jared, he's a pro.

1:13:27.160 --> 1:13:30.240
<v Speaker 2>He said that like the zipper extension is white on mine,

1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.280
<v Speaker 2>and the real one it's beige, and the bottom might

1:13:33.280 --> 1:13:35.000
<v Speaker 2>be different, but like, I don't think anyone cares. And

1:13:35.000 --> 1:13:38.320
<v Speaker 2>I've been getting compliments everywhere and it makes me feel alive,

1:13:38.640 --> 1:13:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Like I just love having.

1:13:40.120 --> 1:13:42.040
<v Speaker 3>It so much. I don't know why I brought it up.

1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh because I'm aunt. I love. Yeah, so a thing that.

1:13:45.640 --> 1:13:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Like like they're basically flying in sweatshop employees to Paris

1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:55.559
<v Speaker 2>and so they could still write that it's made in France,

1:13:56.240 --> 1:14:01.120
<v Speaker 2>but they are still they're using like bad labor, like

1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:03.960
<v Speaker 2>still treating people like shit and that like they've been

1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:06.320
<v Speaker 2>doing tests and the material, like obviously there's an up

1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:08.559
<v Speaker 2>church for the brand, but you expect some sort of

1:14:08.640 --> 1:14:11.240
<v Speaker 2>like I went to the store Selene and was looking

1:14:11.240 --> 1:14:14.000
<v Speaker 2>at their bags and it was like really really beautifully

1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:19.440
<v Speaker 2>made and like cool, but I don't know, like fuck consumerism,

1:14:19.560 --> 1:14:21.760
<v Speaker 2>fuck luxury. I'm glad I didn't spend thousands but I

1:14:21.800 --> 1:14:24.320
<v Speaker 2>do love the way it looks. Yeah, and I'm like

1:14:24.400 --> 1:14:27.160
<v Speaker 2>skipping around down. I've been wearing it every day every time,

1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:31.200
<v Speaker 2>and then you paid nothing for it. That's the best.

1:14:31.200 --> 1:14:33.759
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, hearing about how it's not actually good quality

1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:36.200
<v Speaker 2>and the quality has gone down, and just watching white

1:14:36.200 --> 1:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Lotus and the government, well, because I guess there's like

1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:43.400
<v Speaker 2>a video of some creator being like, uh, everyone I

1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:45.880
<v Speaker 2>know is getting rid of their SOHO house memberships, Like

1:14:45.920 --> 1:14:48.639
<v Speaker 2>what is going on? And the people are commenting, Yeah,

1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:51.040
<v Speaker 2>what do you think is going on? I don't know

1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:54.680
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. Huh. Maybe people don't have thousands of

1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:58.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars to spend anymore on like a clubhouse, you know.

1:14:58.360 --> 1:15:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, whatever.

1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I've wanted this bag for forever, and truly I'm here

1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:06.240
<v Speaker 2>to say having the fake one has given me the

1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:07.160
<v Speaker 2>same amount of joy.

1:15:07.240 --> 1:15:08.160
<v Speaker 3>I can't. I love that.

1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:11.479
<v Speaker 2>And I don't feel as stressed because yeah, like I

1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:13.759
<v Speaker 2>think because it's white, I would be very very stressed

1:15:13.760 --> 1:15:14.360
<v Speaker 2>if it Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, like if anything, like if any anything you use, like,

1:15:20.320 --> 1:15:21.720
<v Speaker 1>if anything happens.

1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:23.400
<v Speaker 2>To it, that's stressful. If it's worth that much money,

1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, you could buy a full you can

1:15:26.080 --> 1:15:28.840
<v Speaker 2>truly for three thousand dollars goes to an inclusive resort

1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:30.400
<v Speaker 2>in Mexico for what like a week?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh my god, yeah for three you could do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot with three thousand dollars.

1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you why I have multi carrot diamonds, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not buying a purse. Yeah, but God bless you if

1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:42.240
<v Speaker 2>that's your thing and that makes you happy and it

1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.519
<v Speaker 2>makes you feel excited. I did buy a necklace to

1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:47.759
<v Speaker 2>go and watch What Happens live, like I get it. Yeah, yeah,

1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:51.200
<v Speaker 2>of course, no judgment if you have a y cel bag,

1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:54.679
<v Speaker 2>they're beautiful. Well, anyway, recently, there hasn't been very much

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<v Speaker 2>movement on the flash robbery scene, like that this big

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<v Speaker 2>one from twenty twenty four in October, like which granted

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<v Speaker 2>is like five months ago, six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Ago, Like, uh, that's the last big one I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>about or that I'm seeing any information about. And I

1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:10.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's probably because like words getting out that like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody gets caught from these, like everybody gets arrested, so

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<v Speaker 1>like this isn't really the thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think as a trend it's going away.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it was completely politicized by the

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<v Speaker 1>right as like this is it's the Wild West.

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<v Speaker 3>And because everybody wants to make all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the politicians and das who are trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>more you know, acknowledging the biases in the government, in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the justice system, they want to make them

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<v Speaker 1>seem soft on crime and like, look what's happening smashing

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<v Speaker 1>grabs and it's like okay, a bunch of persons, what missing?

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<v Speaker 3>Or well, how does that affect you? Like how does it?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you at the rock?

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<v Speaker 2>Like well, yeah, I mean the classic they always show

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<v Speaker 2>they care more about unless it's the capital, of course

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States of America. They care about property

1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:58.000
<v Speaker 2>over people, like they also like the you know, ah,

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<v Speaker 2>the looting, but it's like they don't care that teens

1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:03.680
<v Speaker 2>are getting shot by cops. It's like they just care

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<v Speaker 2>about buildings so much, unless of course the capitol.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Like I remember when there was like there were

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<v Speaker 1>like there was stuff going on downtown in LA and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a friend with a bar in a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>and his bar got his restaurant got like fucked up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.

1:17:20.240 --> 1:17:21.920
<v Speaker 1>He was like it doesn't matter, Like I believe in

1:17:21.960 --> 1:17:25.080
<v Speaker 1>this has caused like more and I have insurance like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be fine, you know, like it's stuff, Like that's stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the difference I think with this episode is

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<v Speaker 1>just like that's a crime against someone that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect them for the rest of their life, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need to at the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day, we have to achnowledge the show is copaganda.

1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:42.519
<v Speaker 2>And maybe they were trying to be like shut up,

1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you fucking idiots du people that are like wait, and

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<v Speaker 2>just like they wanted to make it seem like you're

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy person if you are thinking about like what

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna happen to a certain persons?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It also bothers me and I get why rape back

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<v Speaker 2>to this if they were the people that were mad, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think there's like so many women too that would like

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't have the privilege to confront their accuser or

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<v Speaker 1>have the like the justices and even take them seriously

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<v Speaker 1>or have the chance to you know, I d them

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<v Speaker 1>and point them out on the stand that it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna not do this because of like your

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<v Speaker 1>brother in the pack of gum, Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think not only is that, I think the big issue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's this is what I was trying to say, but

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<v Speaker 2>like I lost the fucking words. Was the whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>is you don't want to ruin a man's life or

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<v Speaker 2>career this and that it's always like diminishing the lifelong

1:18:31.240 --> 1:18:35.040
<v Speaker 2>trauma that usually happens from like assault and putting the

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<v Speaker 2>thing on Like even if it's a young black team,

1:18:37.800 --> 1:18:40.960
<v Speaker 2>like why you know what I mean, Like they have

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<v Speaker 2>an unfair shake in the justice system, But why would

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<v Speaker 2>his future be more valuable than your rape? Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>and your stand wise, he's going to affect your future. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's where I can see why people would be

1:18:56.479 --> 1:18:59.320
<v Speaker 2>really like upset by this episode. Yeah, because I think

1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:01.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a natural thing. And I think that's why people

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<v Speaker 2>like if they get groped or it's just this or

1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:04.560
<v Speaker 2>that was just my friend. But I guess I was

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<v Speaker 2>drunk too, Like I think most women are always trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like diminish what actually happened, right and like talk

1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:14.360
<v Speaker 2>themselves out. And because we are meant to care about

1:19:14.400 --> 1:19:17.920
<v Speaker 2>these rapists, right and because they have kids or because

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<v Speaker 2>of their job, you know, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I get maybe I guess it's like what

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Oh, he's a father, he's married, Oh, he's

1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.439
<v Speaker 1>a young guy. It's like, there's always a reason why

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<v Speaker 1>you're ruining someone's life.

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<v Speaker 3>But they committed a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I will say in my research, I found

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<v Speaker 1>that this past October in La so past the date

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode. But there was one of those convenience

1:19:41.360 --> 1:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>store flash robberies that was a bunch of teens and

1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of their parents saw them in the footage

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<v Speaker 1>and turn their asses in, which I thought was really funny,

1:19:50.880 --> 1:19:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like all these parents were like, oh no, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rob a convenience store and get away with it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're taking accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>So they turned them in.

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<v Speaker 1>So but that's that on Smash and Grabs, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to hear that there's not an actual mirrored

1:20:04.600 --> 1:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>case to this, but yeah, I feel like the show

1:20:07.080 --> 1:20:09.519
<v Speaker 1>was definitely running with like the hot button topic of

1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.200
<v Speaker 1>the moment, which at the end of two thousand and

1:20:11.200 --> 1:20:13.559
<v Speaker 1>three was fucking flash robs or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you for two thousand and three, which is lol.

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<v Speaker 2>Two just now yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, twenty twenty three a break in the

1:20:23.880 --> 1:20:25.800
<v Speaker 1>The only thing smashing in two thousand and three was

1:20:25.840 --> 1:20:29.479
<v Speaker 1>smash Mouth everybody A twenty twenty three was Smash Robs

1:20:29.560 --> 1:20:30.919
<v Speaker 1>and maybe Smash Brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well, what's Smash Brothers. I'm Mario or Maria.

1:20:35.439 --> 1:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know what I'm

1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.639
<v Speaker 1>talking about with that last game I played was basically

1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:44.479
<v Speaker 1>duck Hunt. Okay, god, Oh, we know we're not We

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<v Speaker 1>have a guess. We have a guess. Stay tuned, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest today is an actor who you've seen on

1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:02.920
<v Speaker 1>shows like FBI Most Wanted and Elsbeth, one of Lisa's faves,

1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know her best from SVU as the victims

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed girlfriend Brooke Jaffett. Please enjoy our convo with a

1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:15.360
<v Speaker 1>very delightful Keely Miller. So, for our listeners, you and

1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:17.759
<v Speaker 1>our producer Casey are old friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>How do guys know each other?

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<v Speaker 4>We technically I don't know if we overlapped in undergrad.

1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:28.479
<v Speaker 4>But my best friend Kristin O'Brien from undergrad, we did

1:21:28.600 --> 1:21:31.519
<v Speaker 4>theater together. She had two older brothers who were in

1:21:31.520 --> 1:21:34.280
<v Speaker 4>the film department, and they were friends with Casey like

1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:37.559
<v Speaker 4>best friends, like their family. So we would all spend

1:21:37.880 --> 1:21:40.840
<v Speaker 4>like holidays at the O'Briens, and I think we met

1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:43.599
<v Speaker 4>there and then we ended up almost all of us

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<v Speaker 4>ended up working for the same restaurant company in La

1:21:47.720 --> 1:21:52.639
<v Speaker 4>called Jealina. Oh yeah, famous, and so we all, yes,

1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:56.559
<v Speaker 4>we all did our little venice time. And then Casey

1:21:56.640 --> 1:22:00.799
<v Speaker 4>started including us in films that he was making, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the greatest honor of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so cool. Yay, well, we love Casey. Wow. From

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<v Speaker 3>Jack of All to California yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And now New York?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know Call No Show? What were you up to?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I was never at No Call No Show. I took

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<v Speaker 4>it way too serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Server Cardinal Sin, Well, let's talk about your star turn

1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on the episode Truth Embarbo Truth Bason twenty five. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is a very recent You just did this like

1:22:37.520 --> 1:22:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a year's or a year and a half ago or

1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:40.280
<v Speaker 1>so I was saying about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was like December, I think of twenty twenty three. Uh,

1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:48.800
<v Speaker 4>it was crazy. I think I got it, like right.

1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:51.720
<v Speaker 4>My little sister helped me audition for it, like at

1:22:51.720 --> 1:22:56.080
<v Speaker 4>like eleven pm over zoom on like Thanksgiving or something.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you find out like two weeks later you

1:22:59.360 --> 1:23:02.680
<v Speaker 4>know got it, and then you're shooting and it was

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of winter. I had one hundred and two

1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:07.040
<v Speaker 4>degree fever on the first day that I had to

1:23:07.080 --> 1:23:10.080
<v Speaker 4>go shoot, and I like took a COVID test, so

1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:11.640
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I know, I don't have COVID, but

1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:15.519
<v Speaker 4>I you know, I'm I'm It's the beginning of my career.

1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:18.160
<v Speaker 4>So I was like, can I possibly get a car

1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:21.720
<v Speaker 4>to set? I'm really sick, And they were like, my

1:23:21.960 --> 1:23:24.600
<v Speaker 4>reps are like, don't tell anyone, don't tell anyone that

1:23:24.640 --> 1:23:27.400
<v Speaker 4>you're that sick, and just can you get there? I

1:23:27.439 --> 1:23:29.439
<v Speaker 4>was like sure, you know, so you're like taking the

1:23:29.479 --> 1:23:31.599
<v Speaker 4>train in the middle of winter, like all your stuff.

1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:36.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm like And then thankfully, the first day I shot

1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:40.080
<v Speaker 4>was all courtroom scenes and I didn't take the stand,

1:23:40.160 --> 1:23:44.639
<v Speaker 4>so I was just sitting there reacting. Next I think

1:23:44.640 --> 1:23:47.200
<v Speaker 4>my first scene was Kevin Kane was sitting next to me,

1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:51.280
<v Speaker 4>and I was like sweating bullets, like I was just

1:23:51.320 --> 1:23:55.680
<v Speaker 4>like wet, like just like come and like in the

1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:59.440
<v Speaker 4>all the wrong ways, like just like just like sweating

1:24:00.120 --> 1:24:03.760
<v Speaker 4>profusely and trying to be friendly at the same time,

1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:05.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's like your first day and I'm like.

1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, but he kept playing into the character she's

1:24:08.840 --> 1:24:12.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, had a familial trauma that's happened with her wife.

1:24:12.640 --> 1:24:16.640
<v Speaker 2>So you're just upset and sweating. Did you end up

1:24:16.720 --> 1:24:18.679
<v Speaker 2>chatting or mostly sweating?

1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Tried to do both at the same time. Yeah, we

1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:26.400
<v Speaker 4>ended up chatting a little. Everyone was really friendly and

1:24:26.439 --> 1:24:29.519
<v Speaker 4>then and then the next scene I had Murshika next

1:24:29.520 --> 1:24:32.840
<v Speaker 4>to me, and that was, you know, nerve wracking in

1:24:32.880 --> 1:24:36.040
<v Speaker 4>and of itself and just trying to be friendly and

1:24:36.160 --> 1:24:38.760
<v Speaker 4>chatting and sweating and oh.

1:24:38.720 --> 1:24:40.400
<v Speaker 3>My god, what a tough day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was so bizarre. And then it got better

1:24:44.960 --> 1:24:47.080
<v Speaker 4>as the week went on, because I started feeling better.

1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:51.360
<v Speaker 4>But I think there's kind of a weird thing that happens,

1:24:51.360 --> 1:24:53.719
<v Speaker 4>like when you're that sick, you can't really think about

1:24:53.760 --> 1:24:56.000
<v Speaker 4>the acting, like if you're any good or not. So

1:24:56.080 --> 1:24:58.920
<v Speaker 4>I probably did the better work on the days that

1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:00.920
<v Speaker 4>I was really sick, and and as I got better,

1:25:00.960 --> 1:25:04.640
<v Speaker 4>I was like, my work is getting worse. So, you know,

1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:06.639
<v Speaker 4>you just get into your head in a way.

1:25:06.960 --> 1:25:07.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:25:08.320 --> 1:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you are like this hot young couple. What's

1:25:12.600 --> 1:25:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you and your on screen wife get along?

1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>What, how were you guys married already or engaged? No,

1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:19.799
<v Speaker 1>we were engaged engaged.

1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:22.240
<v Speaker 3>She was buying a bathing Suitingney.

1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:24.840
<v Speaker 4>Was buying a bathing honeymoon. Yes, yes, no. She was

1:25:24.880 --> 1:25:29.160
<v Speaker 4>absolutely lovely and just a pro and and very friendly in.

1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Your apartment, gorgeous as was well off killing it.

1:25:35.400 --> 1:25:37.280
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh I didn't. I mean, that's the

1:25:37.320 --> 1:25:40.280
<v Speaker 4>funny thing is, like you there's not a lot of

1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:42.320
<v Speaker 4>like chit chat of like collaborate. You know.

1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:42.519
<v Speaker 1>It.

1:25:42.520 --> 1:25:44.240
<v Speaker 4>It's a machine. So you like show up and you're

1:25:44.280 --> 1:25:46.320
<v Speaker 4>like they've made decisions about your character and you go

1:25:46.400 --> 1:25:48.720
<v Speaker 4>with them. And we walked in on that day it

1:25:48.760 --> 1:25:51.639
<v Speaker 4>was like in Gramercy Park and I was like, oh,

1:25:51.640 --> 1:25:55.800
<v Speaker 4>we're rich, like we do very well, Like, okay, this

1:25:55.920 --> 1:25:57.160
<v Speaker 4>is amazing.

1:25:58.120 --> 1:26:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Right now? Are you indeed? Casey said you're in DC.

1:26:02.120 --> 1:26:02.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm in DC.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you tell us about scenarios?

1:26:05.600 --> 1:26:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yes I will. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a world premiere play by Matthew Koppo Di Casa Who,

1:26:17.400 --> 1:26:21.800
<v Speaker 4>and it's about the I still yet to find a

1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:26.720
<v Speaker 4>sustaining twin describe this. But the police do crisis intervention trainings,

1:26:27.439 --> 1:26:31.679
<v Speaker 4>and so it follows the kind of craziness that happens

1:26:31.720 --> 1:26:36.160
<v Speaker 4>in police intervention trainings and the resistance and they bring

1:26:36.160 --> 1:26:40.639
<v Speaker 4>in like actors to do it. So it's it's billed

1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:44.639
<v Speaker 4>as a comedy, but it's also, you know, pretty intense

1:26:44.680 --> 1:26:47.800
<v Speaker 4>in terms of the subject matter.

1:26:48.360 --> 1:26:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Wait, this is crazy. My husband knows him. Wait what

1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>my husband knows Matthew Kappo de Casa. He does like

1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>glass Cannon stuff like role playing games with this. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're called glass Canon Podcast. Yeah, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I know that name? Like that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>not a normal like a common name. And I just

1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>googled it and was like, oh, glass Canon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, that's why funny the world is tiny? How long

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<v Speaker 1>is that running in DC four till April sixth? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so as when this episode comes out, people.

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<v Speaker 2>Will still have time an eight show a week schedule

1:27:26.479 --> 1:27:27.760
<v Speaker 2>or what's it like? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, yeah, h shows a week.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode comes out five days before you close, so

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<v Speaker 1>everybody go see it.

1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Everybody comes to the scenarios at Studio Theater. You got

1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:38.599
<v Speaker 4>five days.

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually in a one of my favorite shows, El Smith.

1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I am a weekly viewer of El Smith. I feel

1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>you Yeah, I feel like I finally have aged because

1:27:49.240 --> 1:27:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm watching a CBS show.

1:27:50.880 --> 1:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:53.479
<v Speaker 4>What.

1:27:53.640 --> 1:27:54.280
<v Speaker 3>I like?

1:27:54.320 --> 1:27:56.760
<v Speaker 4>It really does hit a certain age demographic, doesn't it.

1:27:56.840 --> 1:28:01.080
<v Speaker 4>That's that's true. What do you love about Elsbeth?

1:28:01.120 --> 1:28:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Because oh, I'll tell you so.

1:28:02.560 --> 1:28:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I like that it's like crime, but that it's like

1:28:07.200 --> 1:28:09.400
<v Speaker 2>like you know what you like, you know that she'll

1:28:09.400 --> 1:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>figure it out, and it's like kind of a little kooky,

1:28:12.280 --> 1:28:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and the guests actors are all so good and the

1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:18.559
<v Speaker 2>scenarios are fun, but you're not really stressed because you

1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>actually know what happened and you know she's gonna, you know,

1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>solve it. And then this season, who's the guy from Evil?

1:28:26.080 --> 1:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>She's married to Michael Emerson. Oh, yes, so he is

1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:33.479
<v Speaker 2>now this long arc story and it's kind of like

1:28:33.640 --> 1:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>suspenseful as well.

1:28:35.760 --> 1:28:39.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he came in right and after he was there,

1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:42.519
<v Speaker 4>I met him, like he was kind of coming on

1:28:42.560 --> 1:28:44.400
<v Speaker 4>set to like check things out. So I think that

1:28:44.400 --> 1:28:47.360
<v Speaker 4>that was like maybe in the works or something right

1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>before I left, And he was so friendly and lovely.

1:28:51.280 --> 1:28:57.280
<v Speaker 4>And Carrie is just incredible and like a comedic genius. Yeah,

1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:58.400
<v Speaker 4>she's she's amazing.

1:28:58.479 --> 1:28:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's just so likable.

1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of also in the Secret to Elsbeth

1:29:02.800 --> 1:29:04.559
<v Speaker 1>because like there's a couple of other shows that are

1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the Colombo thing, you know, and yeah,

1:29:09.280 --> 1:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>hers is.

1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Like feels like people are really attached to it. I

1:29:11.680 --> 1:29:12.320
<v Speaker 3>feel like it's her.

1:29:12.520 --> 1:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>The only thing that annoys me is every week there's

1:29:15.920 --> 1:29:18.360
<v Speaker 2>a new adversary who doesn't believe in her, but she

1:29:18.439 --> 1:29:22.000
<v Speaker 2>has solved every case every week, so it's like, even

1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.040
<v Speaker 2>if you don't like her, I guess she's doing a

1:29:24.040 --> 1:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>good job. So I'm like, why does everyone keep fighting her?

1:29:26.479 --> 1:29:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't make sense. It's the patriarchy. She doesn't sing it,

1:29:31.280 --> 1:29:34.719
<v Speaker 2>but you're We're there with Pamela Adlin, who I'm my.

1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Fan of me too, and she, yeah, she was incredible.

1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:46.200
<v Speaker 4>We had it was one of those episode and Laura

1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:51.200
<v Speaker 4>ban Anti and Jack Davenport. It was wild because we

1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:55.280
<v Speaker 4>had so much downtime together and like, I feel like this,

1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:58.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm very early career, so but I've heard

1:29:58.720 --> 1:30:02.200
<v Speaker 4>this doesn't really happen in more as often, where everyone

1:30:02.280 --> 1:30:04.000
<v Speaker 4>kind of like goes to their own trailers or kind

1:30:04.000 --> 1:30:06.719
<v Speaker 4>of like does their own thing in between. But because

1:30:06.720 --> 1:30:09.160
<v Speaker 4>we were shooting in this restaurant, they had us all

1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:13.160
<v Speaker 4>held in the same like other section of the restaurant together,

1:30:13.880 --> 1:30:18.240
<v Speaker 4>and so we became this kind of like I don't know,

1:30:18.360 --> 1:30:24.240
<v Speaker 4>Motley Crue of different like time like timelines in our

1:30:24.280 --> 1:30:27.320
<v Speaker 4>careers and Jack Dave Import and Pamela Adlon were just

1:30:27.360 --> 1:30:29.960
<v Speaker 4>like going back and forth sharing all their stories. You know,

1:30:30.000 --> 1:30:32.200
<v Speaker 4>they were like, you know this in the straight kind

1:30:32.200 --> 1:30:35.000
<v Speaker 4>of like, and us young actors were like, oh my gosh,

1:30:35.160 --> 1:30:38.519
<v Speaker 4>like tell us everything, and they really took us under

1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:42.320
<v Speaker 4>their wing and they were hilarious and incredible. And Pamela

1:30:42.400 --> 1:30:46.840
<v Speaker 4>is just a hoot and so funny and so welcoming.

1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:49.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, she like knew everyone's names on set like

1:30:50.080 --> 1:30:54.960
<v Speaker 4>and just was just a hilarious time. And she there

1:30:55.040 --> 1:31:00.200
<v Speaker 4>was like something she she kept calling Carrie Preston the

1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Daniel d Lewis of of comedy, and it was just

1:31:04.360 --> 1:31:10.840
<v Speaker 4>really like method like method, no, yeah, not method, but

1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:14.840
<v Speaker 4>like just just top tier. She was like, this is

1:31:14.880 --> 1:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>the my.

1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Left foot, Like okay, it was really it was really rich.

1:31:21.000 --> 1:31:21.599
<v Speaker 4>It's really good.

1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>That's great. Back to your SVU. You got to face

1:31:27.160 --> 1:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>off with Iced Tea a little bit too. You like

1:31:29.400 --> 1:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>sass him and he goes, I'm sorry, Like you know,

1:31:32.840 --> 1:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>we just like never hear him go I'm sorry.

1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:37.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. I don't even remember that.

1:31:38.240 --> 1:31:40.519
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I'm so glad you wrote that down.

1:31:40.600 --> 1:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of laughed when he said that it is

1:31:45.240 --> 1:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>a powerful moment because we just we love that, yeah,

1:31:49.640 --> 1:31:53.000
<v Speaker 2>where he stands on what else? I mean?

1:31:53.040 --> 1:31:56.479
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any little funny run ins after you've

1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:57.720
<v Speaker 1>started feeling better.

1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:03.560
<v Speaker 4>After the fever? No, it was just such an interesting

1:32:04.880 --> 1:32:08.000
<v Speaker 4>episode to watch because they were still tinkering with the

1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:12.080
<v Speaker 4>script like on on set as they do, but like

1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:14.519
<v Speaker 4>there were just some things that I you know, I

1:32:14.560 --> 1:32:16.360
<v Speaker 4>think that they were trying to figure out how to

1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:21.360
<v Speaker 4>how to make the story work. And the director was

1:32:21.400 --> 1:32:25.120
<v Speaker 4>actually I found out he directed the pilot episode of SVU,

1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:29.240
<v Speaker 4>so him and Marishka like knew each other from way back,

1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:31.080
<v Speaker 4>and which was insane.

1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:32.560
<v Speaker 3>That is wow.

1:32:32.840 --> 1:32:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I was like, oh, we're we got some svo

1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:36.759
<v Speaker 4>history here.

1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we love to hear that.

1:32:39.120 --> 1:32:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, isn't that fun? And then the scenes with

1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:49.040
<v Speaker 4>Marishka like were you know, I She's amazing and she's

1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:52.320
<v Speaker 4>incredible at like just she can be talking to somebody

1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:54.000
<v Speaker 4>or like on the phone and then drop right in

1:32:54.080 --> 1:32:57.120
<v Speaker 4>and like a second and like oh whoa, Like it's incredible.

1:32:57.560 --> 1:32:59.559
<v Speaker 4>And I was doing a couple of takes in the

1:32:59.600 --> 1:33:01.960
<v Speaker 4>court room and at one point she because she will

1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:04.120
<v Speaker 4>jump in a couple of times, like with the actors

1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:06.760
<v Speaker 4>to kind of play with them. And she was like,

1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:11.479
<v Speaker 4>I think, let's let's try one where you just really

1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.320
<v Speaker 4>give it to me, just lay into me.

1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, okay.

1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:23.040
<v Speaker 4>She's like, yeah, let's let's have you like maybe start

1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:26.240
<v Speaker 4>to walk away and then take a beat and then

1:33:26.680 --> 1:33:29.320
<v Speaker 4>whip around and just give it to me.

1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yay.

1:33:31.760 --> 1:33:36.160
<v Speaker 4>I was like, okay, sure. Uh So that was that

1:33:36.320 --> 1:33:39.880
<v Speaker 4>was a little nerve wracking, you know, because she's she's

1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:43.040
<v Speaker 4>such a force and and it's her show, you know,

1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:45.240
<v Speaker 4>so you're like, I'm here for the week and I

1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:48.040
<v Speaker 4>don't want to you turn around and just give it

1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:48.240
<v Speaker 4>to her.

1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:54.320
<v Speaker 3>And she was like, that's we got it. Okay, that's

1:33:54.360 --> 1:33:55.920
<v Speaker 3>so exciting. Yeah.

1:33:55.960 --> 1:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>The director of that episode was Jean de segone Zac,

1:33:59.240 --> 1:34:01.599
<v Speaker 1>the one who we just talkedalked about these at resent.

1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I know, but I was thinking, when I say his name,

1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:06.160
<v Speaker 2>but who are we talking about that with?

1:34:06.880 --> 1:34:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Was it Donell or David Keith? And what was it?

1:34:10.600 --> 1:34:12.639
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember when we were just talking about him.

1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>Right now, he's done fifty five episodes of the show,

1:34:16.439 --> 1:34:19.439
<v Speaker 2>fifty he's directed fifty five episodes of US and someone

1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>just had a story about him and truly, I don't

1:34:23.040 --> 1:34:27.599
<v Speaker 2>retain any information, like I guess, but he does.

1:34:28.120 --> 1:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I FBI most wanted you what you've been on? Right,

1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Like he's been like he does all the Dick Wolf stuff.

1:34:34.800 --> 1:34:37.840
<v Speaker 1>This time he did bloodline.

1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Do he's a bloodline? A couple episodes?

1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Episodes? What was your what? What's what's your plan? After DC?

1:34:44.600 --> 1:34:45.800
<v Speaker 3>You're going to head back to New York.

1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Go to head back to New York and hope for

1:34:48.840 --> 1:34:53.400
<v Speaker 4>the best. You know, I'm it's it's still early career,

1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:56.519
<v Speaker 4>so there's the moment where you know, you just don't

1:34:56.560 --> 1:34:57.799
<v Speaker 4>know what's coming right next.

1:34:58.200 --> 1:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and but the good news is that on your

1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>IMDb one of the first photos that comes up underneath

1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:07.759
<v Speaker 1>like is you and Marishka sitting on a bench together.

1:35:07.800 --> 1:35:10.280
<v Speaker 3>And that's a pretty classic. That's pretty pretty cool.

1:35:10.400 --> 1:35:14.559
<v Speaker 4>It very much felt like it's a it's very much

1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:19.960
<v Speaker 4>a New York kind of moment, you know, like it's

1:35:20.040 --> 1:35:22.840
<v Speaker 4>because it's been you know, obviously it's your podcast. Like

1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:26.720
<v Speaker 4>every actor, it feels like, has done an episode of that.

1:35:26.760 --> 1:35:30.280
<v Speaker 4>So it feels really kind of like as a right

1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:30.879
<v Speaker 4>of passage.

1:35:30.960 --> 1:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>That's what I's a huge deal. Wait, what is this

1:35:34.240 --> 1:35:36.479
<v Speaker 2>foot now that I'm on your IMDb on these photos?

1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:37.799
<v Speaker 2>What's this mother's instinct?

1:35:37.920 --> 1:35:40.639
<v Speaker 3>This hat? These polka dots? What is this? Oh?

1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:44.400
<v Speaker 4>That was a film I did with Anne Hathaway and

1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Jessica Chestain where they are like, it's kind of like

1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:52.320
<v Speaker 4>in this style of you know what happened to Baby Jane,

1:35:52.439 --> 1:35:56.439
<v Speaker 4>They're like, it's a psychological thriller with these two mothers,

1:35:56.479 --> 1:36:01.360
<v Speaker 4>and it was a wild I'm a couple of a

1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:07.040
<v Speaker 4>couple of great times with Anne Hathaway and yes, a

1:36:07.080 --> 1:36:10.680
<v Speaker 4>little while ago with her it was.

1:36:10.640 --> 1:36:13.320
<v Speaker 3>The best as our generator princess.

1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:15.960
<v Speaker 4>She really is, And it took everything and me not

1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.559
<v Speaker 4>to first just blurt out like I love you and

1:36:18.560 --> 1:36:22.920
<v Speaker 4>the Princess Diaries, like okay not and like I love

1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:24.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, and then I was like, you can't say

1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:28.040
<v Speaker 4>Princess Diaries as the first thing. It's just gonna feel embarrassing.

1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:31.840
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, she was lovely and we gone along great

1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:35.400
<v Speaker 4>and super welcoming. We like chatted all things, you know,

1:36:35.560 --> 1:36:40.640
<v Speaker 4>nerdy actor stuff like vocal technique because she had just

1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:44.080
<v Speaker 4>finished doing what was the name of the show that

1:36:44.120 --> 1:36:45.520
<v Speaker 4>she did with Jared Leto.

1:36:46.479 --> 1:36:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh the one about like was that the we work

1:36:50.200 --> 1:36:50.880
<v Speaker 3>one that they did.

1:36:51.040 --> 1:36:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, yes, yes, And she had just finished doing that,

1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:56.439
<v Speaker 4>so we were talking about like how she changed her

1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:59.280
<v Speaker 4>voice for that. We talked about vocal technique and school

1:36:59.320 --> 1:37:03.800
<v Speaker 4>and whatnot, and the highlight of my life might have

1:37:03.920 --> 1:37:07.559
<v Speaker 4>been after we like finished the day and we had

1:37:07.600 --> 1:37:09.760
<v Speaker 4>been kind of chatting on and off, and she was

1:37:09.840 --> 1:37:16.479
<v Speaker 4>very welcoming and engaging, and at the end she was like,

1:37:16.960 --> 1:37:19.679
<v Speaker 4>can I take your phone number so that we can

1:37:19.800 --> 1:37:23.240
<v Speaker 4>like chat all things, you know, vocal stuff in the

1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:26.480
<v Speaker 4>future or whatever. And I, you know, was like beside

1:37:26.760 --> 1:37:31.160
<v Speaker 4>my and she was like, I don't keep my phone

1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:35.160
<v Speaker 4>on me, so my security lady is going to take

1:37:35.160 --> 1:37:37.200
<v Speaker 4>it in her phone, but you know, we'll take and

1:37:37.240 --> 1:37:40.559
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yeah, totally, you know. And after I left,

1:37:40.640 --> 1:37:44.320
<v Speaker 4>I was like, what just happened? Right, Like, Anne Hathaway

1:37:44.400 --> 1:37:50.559
<v Speaker 4>has my phone number, but she never you know, and

1:37:50.760 --> 1:37:54.800
<v Speaker 4>she never reached out, and I, you know, so the

1:37:54.840 --> 1:37:57.320
<v Speaker 4>story kind of is anti climactic in that way, because

1:37:57.320 --> 1:37:58.800
<v Speaker 4>when I would tell anyone, they're like, oh, my gosh,

1:37:58.800 --> 1:38:00.240
<v Speaker 4>you know did and I was like, no, no, she has

1:38:00.280 --> 1:38:00.960
<v Speaker 4>my phone and I don't.

1:38:01.200 --> 1:38:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't have a way of getting in touch with her.

1:38:03.080 --> 1:38:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I can't get in contact with her. But it was

1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:07.960
<v Speaker 4>it was a good time and the period costumes were

1:38:08.040 --> 1:38:09.599
<v Speaker 4>incredible and super fun.

1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it looks like a really cool show. It looks beautiful.

1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:18.600
<v Speaker 4>It was stunning and it was in sixties so and

1:38:18.640 --> 1:38:23.080
<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant, so there was like heavy silicon belly

1:38:23.160 --> 1:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>that I had to wear in the middle of summer.

1:38:24.960 --> 1:38:26.280
<v Speaker 4>It was It's a good.

1:38:26.160 --> 1:38:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Time, Killie. This was so fun to chat with you.

1:38:28.840 --> 1:38:29.639
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

1:38:29.920 --> 1:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Definitely we'll send our DC girls and guys to go

1:38:35.240 --> 1:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>see scenario.

1:38:36.040 --> 1:38:38.360
<v Speaker 4>I would love it and I would love it. Yeah, thank

1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:39.120
<v Speaker 4>you for having me.

1:38:43.479 --> 1:38:46.240
<v Speaker 3>I liked that she was She was like, why do

1:38:46.320 --> 1:38:52.320
<v Speaker 3>you like al Smith? She was cool. I loved I

1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:54.120
<v Speaker 3>liked her so many stories.

1:38:54.360 --> 1:38:56.320
<v Speaker 2>I just like the people that have the details, you know,

1:38:56.520 --> 1:39:00.160
<v Speaker 2>like people that care about all this is much as

1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>we do. It's like nice to talk to people with

1:39:02.000 --> 1:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>the details.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and our first guest that we got courtesy of Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>So Casey, keep bringing us in your your contacts and

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<v Speaker 1>your friends. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, she was really cool and.

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<v Speaker 2>And a wild episode. Yeah, slash best of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm so like, now I'm on alert, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have to let us know if anything drops

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<v Speaker 1>below this episode on IMDb, not like IMDb is suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>like the Rotten Tomatoes. But I guess for TV shows,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the closest you can get to like rating something

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<v Speaker 1>per episode is the IMDb. So yeah, definitely let us

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<v Speaker 1>know if anything drops. But yes, truth embargo has dethroned

1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:46.880
<v Speaker 1>intimidation game and I was so happy that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>able to cover both of these classics insta classics. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of a post mortem smash and grab robberies,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're a moment in time.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not really happening that much anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And and people kind of found out that when you

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<v Speaker 1>work with a lot of people there, you open yourselves

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<v Speaker 1>up to way more mistakes and they're all you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to lead each other to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone got busted, so you know, and the phones

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<v Speaker 2>of it all. I mean, now with the phones, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like planning travel. How many burner phones? What do you delete? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how quickly. I mean, we're already on a

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<v Speaker 2>police A lot of people's citizens are non citizens, like

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<v Speaker 2>people in this nation are dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wonder how quick we all will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm on signal. I'm on signal to

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<v Speaker 1>order mushrooms for my mushroom lady. And I hope I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get invited into a full war plan at any point.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that would be wild. H Have they even

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<v Speaker 3>said why he got acted?

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<v Speaker 2>So they're denying it. They're saying it didn't happen. He

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<v Speaker 2>has screenshots, you guys. Yeah, but they're just like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do that. What are you talking about? That

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<v Speaker 2>didn't happen. Oh I thought somebody. I thought they said

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<v Speaker 2>it was confirmed at one point, but of course it's confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it's confirmed. But like that's somebody on their side.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like like at least it's like, oh, we

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to add in so and so, but we

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<v Speaker 1>added in the thing that the.

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<v Speaker 3>Know this, you know, that's what fu But it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also funny that it's the Atlantic because he hates the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>He hates the Atlantic more than like any publication. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's so funny that it's that one that they

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<v Speaker 1>added in.

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<v Speaker 2>Like saw two separate things where like this is all

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<v Speaker 2>just online stuff where one person I saw, I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you wait a whole week at Like you

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<v Speaker 2>had to wait till they bombed ym into fucking post

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<v Speaker 2>about it and then someone else goes I would have

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<v Speaker 2>stayed in that group chat for a year or like months,

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<v Speaker 2>like see what happens. So yeah, you know, just two

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<v Speaker 2>sides of whatever. But however it happened. This is like insane.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that they're not like, but he's the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the defense and they're in charge of all the

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that he's not in jail for espionage

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<v Speaker 2>and like whatever other charges and in jail for life

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<v Speaker 2>is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>To go back to me on stage, and it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I told the people, I'm like, well, we have freedom

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<v Speaker 2>seat for now.

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<v Speaker 3>For now.

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<v Speaker 2>I could say whatever the fuck I want and I

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<v Speaker 2>go and I've made you laugh enough and at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, if you were cool, you could

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<v Speaker 2>be up here too. But I get to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck I want because I don't think it's gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Be for long. Yeah, I really don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet in like within six months, someone could complain

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<v Speaker 2>that sees me and I could be like fucking taken,

1:42:23.200 --> 1:42:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know I mean, I really do if

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<v Speaker 2>people are being sent away and their phones are being

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<v Speaker 2>searched at the borders, like I don't. Yeah, they just

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're holding a college student who's been living

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<v Speaker 2>here since she was seven because they found her test.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard they were like looking for her. Oh I

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<v Speaker 1>thought she was detained. But fucking it's scary out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, California, Oregon, and Washington have been invited to

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<v Speaker 1>join Canada though, and I think we should accept. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>for real, some the I think the new Prime Minister

1:42:56.400 --> 1:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>said something like, yeah, California, Washington, Oregon, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>guys come up and join us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Oregon and Washington. But the thing is, all

1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:06.960
<v Speaker 2>of our cities are like all those states are hillbillies

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<v Speaker 2>around the city.

1:43:08.240 --> 1:43:10.639
<v Speaker 3>There's plenty. Yeah, in California, it's all right.

1:43:10.680 --> 1:43:13.280
<v Speaker 1>We drive two hours outside of LA it's Trump flags

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they showed how like the population of New

1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Jersey is like all of the mountains all those like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahana, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just it's nuts. We let it go too long.

1:43:26.040 --> 1:43:28.760
<v Speaker 2>We didn't help black people fast enough. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, our comforts let us like

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<v Speaker 2>not give a fuck about minorities in this country, and

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<v Speaker 2>now we're all gonna be treated and the way minorities

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<v Speaker 2>have been and.

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<v Speaker 3>We deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exactly what the couple from this show was

1:43:42.560 --> 1:43:45.519
<v Speaker 1>trying to get across, you know, that's exactly what the

1:43:45.560 --> 1:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>lesbians in this episode we're trying to get everyone to realize.

1:43:49.680 --> 1:43:54.639
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, well because I get where they're coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's stupid. Yes, the way that it's framed

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<v Speaker 1>is dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>Is dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>The other words, there's other ways it could have been done,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've done it better in other ways, you know

1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:08.439
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like they've done this this like kind

1:44:08.479 --> 1:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of thing better, they've done white guilt better. This one

1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's bad. But I was also just going to say

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it right back to su really quick. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>never forget this is the the Hygienic Liner episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the Hygienic Liner.

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<v Speaker 1>Never has there been a funnier Benson light bulb moment

1:44:27.120 --> 1:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>when she's like, I've got it, the hygienic Liner, Like

1:44:30.840 --> 1:44:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I just usually it's like her knowing a brand, her

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<v Speaker 1>knowing something about about something that maybe men don't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is like the top men. Do you even

1:44:41.120 --> 1:44:43.960
<v Speaker 1>know about a hygienic liner? You cannot call yourself an

1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:46.960
<v Speaker 1>ally until you do. And it solved the case. The

1:44:47.040 --> 1:44:53.080
<v Speaker 1>hygienic liner solve the case. But anyway, let's move into

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<v Speaker 1>what would Sister Peg do? This is our weekly segment

1:44:56.280 --> 1:45:02.360
<v Speaker 1>where we direct you towards a book, an article, a organization,

1:45:02.439 --> 1:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>something to give you more information or let you help.

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<v Speaker 1>Regarding what we talked about in today's episode this week,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of we were sort of talking about like

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<v Speaker 1>the woman's reaction to the victim's reaction, like when she

1:45:13.960 --> 1:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>walks out and sees the flash mobers, and it was

1:45:17.960 --> 1:45:19.519
<v Speaker 1>making and I think we also talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>last week's episode, the fight or Flight, And I found

1:45:22.680 --> 1:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>this article on simply psychology called fight, Flight, Freeze, or

1:45:26.240 --> 1:45:29.120
<v Speaker 1>fawn How we respond to threats, And I just thought

1:45:29.120 --> 1:45:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like an interesting article that identifies all these responses.

1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:35.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think people forget a lot of times about fawn,

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<v Speaker 1>like how you'll get overly like agreeing with your with

1:45:40.960 --> 1:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>your like the perpetrator and stuff, And there's a lot

1:45:44.360 --> 1:45:46.559
<v Speaker 1>of psychology to like why you go into one of

1:45:46.560 --> 1:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>these modes. So this article goes in depth about why

1:45:50.720 --> 1:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>these responses get triggered, how to cope with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting, and that's at simplypsychology dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>And that will be linked obviously in our show, and

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<v Speaker 3>You for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, because you always think you'll be ready, but

1:46:26.560 --> 1:46:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't know how you're gonna act, and then you

1:46:28.320 --> 1:46:29.559
<v Speaker 2>feel guilt and you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally life is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Next week Exile, Season twenty, episode six. Join us. We're

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with all of you. Stay strong, fight the fight,

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<v Speaker 2>but stay safe.

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