1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four and after four o'clock 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app and 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: you can listen to what you missed. We got the 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Moistline coming up twice next hour, so I also going 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: to talk to Tracy Park next hour. She's the well, 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: she's my city council woman in Los Angeles. Tracy represents 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: much of the West Side and she's really upset because 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: two women got viciously assaulted near the Venice Canals and 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: they caught the guy. But if you could see the 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: pictures of one of the victims, it's it's really terrible 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: what's going on, and Tracy's upset. We'll have Tracy on 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: coming up after three o'clock. Right now, we have a 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 2: special guest and actually a co host. I don't think 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: we've ever had a guest co host before, but Jeff Briggs. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: He won the bidding to be a co host for 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: the day here on the on the show at Chef 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Bruno's Katerina's Club pasta than that we had last I 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: don't November December, somewhere around the holidays. 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: How much did you bid? 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Well, it turns out it was sixty five hundred, sixty 23 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: five hundred. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm bad with math. I was off by a zero. 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: So oh, I thought I'd heard fifty five sixty five 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: you pay for this? 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, I thought for sure I'd get out did 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: so I kept bidding it up. I wanted to raise 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: as much money for Kradina's Club as possible. 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: Well, that's nice, certainly this isn't worth sixty five hundred dollars. Well, 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: that remains to be seen. So well, you talk about 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: yourself so people know who you are. 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've been I've been in California since 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one. I came out here for a law job. 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: I went to law school in Minnesota, University of Minnesota. 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: That's my ancestral home. Grew up in the Navy, so 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: I lived all over the world. And this was your 38 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: show and others on KI were my parents absolute go 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: to radio and their retirement years down in San Diego. 40 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: And they both passed away in the last year. And 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: when this came up, I thought, you know, I might 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: this might be a nice way to honor them and 43 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: to do that and make a contribution to Katerina's Club 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: as well. I've been involved in the community when I 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: lived I lived in Hollywood for a long time and 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: been working on homelessness issues there since before it became 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: what it is today, and I really respect what Katerina 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: Club is doing. In Chef Bruno, they started out just 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: feeding people, but now they're doing a lot more than that, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: and that really is important. 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: They're getting in and they're running apart feeding apartments for 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: some people, they've got like a mentoring program to get 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: them jobs in the hospitality industry. So he's really expanded 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: the empire. And it's really neat because we were there 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: in the very early years that the Chef J Bruno 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: set this up and now it's really become a worldwide phenomenon. 57 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, we've heard about it, you know. I've heard about 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: it from you guys for years and from everybody else 59 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: on KFI. And there was a parallel because in Hollywood 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: we had a very wealthy woman who came back to 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 3: Hollywood and decided that she wanted to do things for 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: homeless people and she started a feeding program, which, okay, 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: that's great, but even she after a while realized all 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: I'm doing is feeding people. I'm not doing anything get 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: them off the streets. I'm just helping them stay on 66 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: the streets. And so that her efforts morphed into doing 67 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: much more and really helped Hollywood for a while until 68 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: things got crazy a number of years ago. 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: Now, your law trade is copyright and trademark law. 70 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: I grew up as in a big firm as a 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 3: intellectual property lawyer, trademarks, copyrights, and a lot of it 72 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: entertainment related. But I do a little bit of everything, 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: and I represent a lot of families, for example, who 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: maybe were in the entertainment business, had some wealth gone now, 75 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: but their rights still exists, whether it's their publicity rights 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: and that sort of thing, and make sure that they're 77 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: still the family's still getting paid. And then I do 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: stuff for the families as well. 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: So what was the type of homeless work you got 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: involved in in Hollywood? 81 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: So in I worked. 82 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 3: I got hired originally by the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, 83 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: I want to say it was in the late eighties 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: to help them out on an issue they had relating 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: to the Hollywood Sign. And then I began doing other 86 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: work for them, and in two thousand and seven or 87 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: two thousand and six, they asked me to come on 88 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: their board. I was still doing some legal work here 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: and there for them, and then in two thousand and seven, 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight, I was the chair of 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: the board. And while I was chair of the board, 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: one of the first in the Hollywood area permanent support 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: of housing projects got built. And it was built on property. 94 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: It was sold to the old Community Redevelopment Agency, remember them, 95 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: and Hollywood actually had a very good cra They were 96 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 3: really good. They did some good stuff. They bought this 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: property from another of my clients, which is a big 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 3: church in Hollywood, and they built a permanent support of 99 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: housing facility there and in order to kind of get 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: the community involved, there was a lot of outreach and 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: I was curious about what that was about. So I 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: started learning about permanent supportive housing. And understand, this is 103 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: the two thousand and seven time frame. Things were very 104 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: different there. We had a lot of people on the streets, 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: but there was the only encampments might have been up 106 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: in the hillside. 107 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And there was no sense of danger. 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: No, it was and in fact, in those days Hollywood 109 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: had really cleaned up. I mean, it really cleaned up 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: its act. Then when I first was working for them, 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 3: a big economic development in Hollywood was like the in 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,119 Speaker 3: and out opened up. But much later, you know, things 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: had really improved and you had Hollywood and Highland get developed. 114 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: No, they were on a roll. 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 3: I mean it was getting glamorous, totally, it was, and 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: people were coming back in droves. But I got interested 117 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: in what permanent supportive housing was and how it worked, 118 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: and we got the business community to get involved because 119 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: one of the things we were looking at was the 120 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: number of people who were just going through this revolving door. 121 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: They'd get you arrested for public urination or something, go 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: in for a few days, be out in a couple 123 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: of days. Maybe there'd be a hold on them and 124 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: they'd go in for three days for mental health, but 125 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 3: they'd be right back out on the streets. Something wasn't working. 126 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: And permanent support of housing for a part a portion 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: of that population was a really good idea because economically 128 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: we could house those people, some of those folks who 129 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: qualified for it a lot less expensively. 130 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: Than going in and out of that revolving door. 131 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: And in particular, because there's a there's a then there 132 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: was a pretty large segment of that homeless population that 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: really just needed to stay on their meds. And if 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: they stayed on their meds, they could even hold a job. 135 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: You know, not all of them, but. 136 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: How much of the homeless population needs to just stay 137 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: on their meds. You know, it's hard to say come 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: over with a percentage, but would it significantly change things? Yes, 139 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: if you could wave a magic wand and make sure 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: everybody took their pills every day on time, we'd notice 141 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: a difference. 142 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: You would notice a difference. And the permanent support of 143 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: housing facilities are like that this one that was built 144 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: on Gower and Hollywood Boulevard. I don't I think it's 145 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: like forty seven units. They're small units, it's not exorbitant. 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: You would never know driving by there that there's a 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: bunch of homeless formerly homeless people who are living there. 148 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: There's no walk in, it's not a clinic, they don't 149 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: have other services there. Essentially, all they have is a 150 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: manager whose job is make sure people stay on their meds. 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: And really, yeah, that's all still going on. 152 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: That's yeah, and there, and and there's people living there 153 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 3: and they if they work, they pay a portion toward 154 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: rent some you know, I got to take a break, 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: but I want to pick up on that. 156 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have here Jeff Briggs. He's an attorney and 157 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: he won the bidding to be a co host for 158 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: the day on the show sixty five hundred dollars that 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: he donated to Chef Brunos Katerina's Club for our pastathon. 160 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: And we'll continue. 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 162 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 163 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: The next hour, we got two runs of the Moistline. 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk with Tracy Park. She's the 165 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: West Side La City council woman, my councilwoman, and she's 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: pretty upset over two women who got beat up pretty 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: badly by another ridiculous vagrant that they have arrested. So 168 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: that story will come up after after three o'clock. Right now, 169 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: we got Jeff Briggs with us. He's the official co 170 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: host today. He won the bidding at Jeff Bruto's Katarina's 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: Club pastathon that we did late last year. And Jeff 172 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: is an attorney, does trademark and copyright law, among a 173 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: lot of other things, and especially interested in the homeless 174 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: situation because he lived in Hollywood before you migrated over 175 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: the border into free country in Thousand Oaks in Ventura County. 176 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, fresh air. Yeah. 177 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: So you were just talking about, oh yeah, about permanent 178 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: support of housing in Hollywood where you did some work 179 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: in the homeless, and there was a building you said, 180 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: I think Sunset and Gower Hollywood and Gower Hollywood and Gower. Yeah, 181 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: and the whole purpose of the building was the building 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: manager made sure that all the tenants were on their 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: meds every day, and these people could not only live peacefully, 184 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: they could go. 185 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: To work right exactly. 186 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I remember kenon of years ago we went to 187 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: skid Row and we saw actually a beautiful new building. 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: They had some unusual, unusual colorful facing for the architecture, 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: and we were by the bagrants wandering around of the 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: streets that that was, you know, one of those permanent 191 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: support of housing buildings, except I guess they didn't have 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 2: a building manager or the building manager had had turned 193 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: to the dark side. Because the story out of there, 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: and this was from the people in the street, was 195 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: anybody who got a room there got a knock on 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: the door, and drug dealers who would show up with 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: a tray of drugs and in about five minutes, everybody 198 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: was readdicted all over again. And they had it was 199 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: like door dash delivery service. So it may not have 200 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: been the best location for it to No, No, it 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: literally was on skid row. Yeah, that's yeah. 202 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 3: I know there was a lot of experimentation with the 203 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: whole concept of permanent support of housing when that first started. 204 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: But it's you asked the important question before, what's the 205 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: percentage of that population back in those days? And again 206 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: it's not precise, but in those days, I mean at 207 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 3: least fifty percent, and I would I would venture to 208 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: say it was more like sixty sixty five percent of 209 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: the homeless population. If they just could stay on their 210 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: meds and just get periodic treatment, they could live an 211 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: okay life. They could exist in an apartment without destroying it. 212 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: They could stay off of whatever other addictive substance they 213 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: might have been addicted to, they could get through rehab, 214 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: et cetera. And you know, in those days, if you could, 215 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: if you could take care of that percentage of the 216 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: homeless population, then you're keeping a lot of people off 217 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: the streets. And the more people you keep off the streets, 218 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: the less you attract others who honestly, nowadays, just make 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 3: the choice. And that's not the politically correct thing to 220 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: say that nobody chooses to be homeless. Well, yeah, in fact, 221 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 3: they do do. There's plenty of them. And you know, 222 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 3: I look, look when I graduated from college, if someone 223 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: told me, hey, before you go to law school, why 224 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: don't you take a year off and crews around the country. 225 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: And I ended up on Venice Beach and saw a 226 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 3: bunch of people sleeping in tents, I wouldn't have been, 227 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, ponying up for any I'd be pitching my 228 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: tent right along pre party. Go to a free one. 229 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: I get a free tent and a free sleeping bag 230 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 3: and a phone, and you know, heck, I would have 231 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: done it for a while. But there's plenty of people 232 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 3: who are doing it because they can, and a lot 233 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: of them are crooks. They're praying on the on the 234 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: genuinely distressed people. 235 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: There was a buried statistic that Steve Gregory dug out 236 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: just by looking at the transcripts of Police Commission meetings 237 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: here in LA. They looked at the transcripts here, looked 238 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: at the video, and found out in the last four 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: years there have been seventy two thousand arrests of homeless people. 240 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: You remember that number. 241 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we looked throughout Google world trying to 242 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: find any news story, any reference to this. Nobody covered it. 243 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: Steve found it really by accident. He just does these 244 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: periodic reviews of the Police Commission meeting agenda just and 245 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: this popped. 246 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Out, and I'm thinking, well, well, look at this. They're 247 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: getting arrested. 248 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: There's forty five thousand homeless people. Allegedly, there's got to 249 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: be a lot of multiple arrests. 250 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's a rest and a half for every 251 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: single homeless person over the last four years. 252 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: It was. 253 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: It was tough, but very interesting. I know, you live 254 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: on the West Side, and I used to live on 255 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: the West Side, and I lived in the Midwellshire Hancock 256 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 3: Park area and then Hollywood for a long time, and 257 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: the until about twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, we actually had 258 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: done a lot to keep homeless people off the street 259 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: in the major part of Hollywood, the Central Business Corps 260 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 3: of Hollywood. And I remember it because I'd occasionally go 261 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: to the West Side and I'd see these huge encampments 262 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: on the streets by the vas by the veterans administration 263 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: or other places and say, why isn't in realize that's 264 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: not happening where we are because we are effectively getting 265 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: people help and getting them off the streets. 266 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a quick story. 267 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: When I was chair of the Chamber, because I got 268 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: interested in this permanent support of housing project, helped sell 269 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: that building to them. I was aware that there were 270 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: about eight or nine different groups that were feeding people 271 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: who are on the streets. I also noticed that people 272 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: walking around on the streets were all carrying the same 273 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: handbag and the same and they're wearing the same socks. 274 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: And I got all of those people together for the 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: first time. They never even met each other, these organizations 276 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: who were feeding, and said, look you're doing. You can 277 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: get a breakfast, three breakfasts on Monday, no lunch, and 278 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: I can get dinner on Tuesday, but no breakfast. And 279 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: you're all, you know, it's all the same people. They're 280 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: just going from one place to another. You guys aren't 281 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: coordinated at all. So step one is at least you know, 282 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: coordinate and step two is understand just feeding people. God 283 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: bless you, but you're not doing anything to help them 284 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: get off the streets. There's got to be something more 285 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: that you do, and that's how I got actively involved 286 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: in this stuff. 287 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: We'll continue. 288 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: We got to take another break for the news, and 289 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: we're talking with Jeff Briggs. He is an attorney and 290 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: he's been involved in a lot of homeless work in Hollywood, 291 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: although he has escaped two thousand Oaks and Jess gonna 292 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: stay on with us. He won the Pastathon bid to 293 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: be co host here on the show for Katerina's Club 294 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: and Chef Bruno. 295 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 296 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: six forty. 297 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna have Tracy Park, the West Side 298 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: LA councilwoman, about those two women who got beat up 299 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: pretty badly by a crazy guy recently. She's got a 300 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: lot to say on that. We continue though with Jeff Briggs. 301 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Jeff Briggs is an attorney and he won the bidding 302 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: to be co host of the show today and he's 303 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: been on with us for the last half hour. 304 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Sixty five hundred dollars. 305 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: He donated to Katerina's Club Chef Bruno late last year 306 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: for our Pastathon fundraiser, and he's done a lot of 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: work with homelessness, and since it's been fascinating to hear 308 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: what it's like on the inside, what you see up close, 309 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: what works, what doesn't. And we're talking about how you 310 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: went off. You moved eventually from Hollywood two thousand Oaks, 311 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: which is one of the most civilized places in the world, right, 312 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: I think it's one awards for being the safest city. 313 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: And we were talking about, like last night, we drove 314 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: down Sunset Boulevard and we passed through Beverly Hills, my 315 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: wife and I which we do frequently pass through, come 316 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: out the other side and it's like the roads are 317 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: like big root driving in, then suddenly it's smooth. 318 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: Nobody. 319 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: They have a big, wide grass medium in the middle 320 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: of Sunset Boulevard. Beverly Hills. Yeah, lots of park land. Yeah, 321 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: on the north side. Never a homeless person we see. 322 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: Never. 323 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: No, we leave, we get into West Hollywood and all 324 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: hell breaks get So. 325 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: What does Thousand Oaks. 326 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: What does Beverly Hills do about the vagrants and the homeless. 327 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's a lot of drug addiction, it's a 328 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: lot of mental patients. We all know what the root 329 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: causes are here. What do they do that la refuses 330 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: to do well. They certainly don't have the numbers. They're 331 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: smaller areas, so it's a little easier to sort of 332 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: get their hands around their problem. But they certainly aren't 333 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: given out free tense they're not given out sleeping bags, 334 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: they're not giving out phones, they're not There's no giveaways 335 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 2: up there that I'm aware of. I'm sure there's plenty 336 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: of places where they can get help, and I know 337 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: that's the case up in Ventura. Ventura County has a 338 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: pretty robust assistance infrastructure up there. When I first got 339 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: up there, the first thing I did was inquire about shelters. 340 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: I'm John. 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: One of the things I've done is I've worked on 342 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: two Amika's Friend of the Court's briefs in the Boise 343 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: case in the Grants Pass case, which are you know 344 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: those cases are about to be heard by the Supreme 345 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: Right and that the. 346 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: Supposedly restricted city's ability to deal with the homelessness. 347 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, what it did was tell people, It told the 348 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: cities that in both of those they're different. But essentially 349 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: what they say is you cannot criminally or civilly cite 350 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: give somebody a citation for sleeping in the public space 351 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 3: at night if you don't have a shelter bed for them, 352 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: And as too often is the case with these higher courts, 353 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: and in particular of the Ninth Circuit, they're just completely 354 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 3: out of touch with reality. And the reality is you know, look, 355 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: the law still is in LA you're not supposed to 356 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: sleep on the streets during the day. But you can't 357 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 3: have We don't have police enough to do what they 358 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: should be doing, let alone to be going to every 359 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: homeless person on the street at eight o'clock in the 360 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: morning and kicking them off the street and then making 361 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: sure they don't come back until six pm or whatever 362 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: the timing is. I mean, it's just impractical. You can't 363 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: do that. So if you say that they can be 364 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: there at night, they're going to be there all day. 365 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: That's just the way it is. And there's no way 366 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: a city can stop that. But I went so when 367 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: I got two thousand oaks, I said, I started talking 368 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: to the council people up there, introduced myself, said I 369 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: know a little bit about this stuff. You guys got 370 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: to build a shelter and it doesn't have to be fancy. 371 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 3: It can be a gym, it can be an old warehouse. 372 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: You've got to have some cots and just need a 373 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: place that you can say I got a bed for you, 374 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: because if you don't, you're close enough to LA that 375 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: eventually you're going to have people up here camping out 376 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: on the streets and you're not going to be able 377 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 3: to move them, or you're going to get sued when 378 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: you try. And there's no doubt in my mind that 379 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: there are organizations and activists who are helping people find 380 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: their way to places like that just for purposes of suing. 381 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: That's how they earn a living exactly. 382 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: So the good news is that in Thousand Oaks they 383 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: are building a shelter and it's not you know, seven 384 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars a unit apartment. 385 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: Okay, well, well, why are in LA? Seven hundred thousand 386 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: is like a cheap price? Now, well, I've read it's 387 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: up to about eight forty eight hundred and forty thousand 388 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: the building unit in LA. 389 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 3: What's going on there? Well, we don't up there. I 390 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: don't think they're building them a gym and a you know, 391 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: and a and a massage place to get worked out. No, 392 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: it's it's sensible up there, and there's there's nowhere near 393 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: the money involved. Ken, These people aren't getting paid that 394 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: much to be on the city council compared to LA, 395 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 3: and they certainly aren't getting the kind of benefits and 396 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: side benefits that everybody in LA is. 397 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: Okay, all the stuff you've been talking about, Yeah, sounds 398 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: reasonable and it just makes common sense. Why don't why 399 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 2: don't they do it in LA? Why don't they come 400 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: up with the kind of housing where you know, the 401 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: manager keeps track of the application for the for the 402 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 2: people you know they are, they are working on it, 403 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: and they are building some of that. 404 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: But that's obviously takes a lot. Now, having said that, 405 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: we got two of those in Hollywood. And remember the 406 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: lady I told you about who was doing the feeding. 407 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: We got her involved and how she found a building 408 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 3: to buy down on Santa Monica and Vine and they 409 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: bought this old building been empty for years, She paid 410 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: to rehabit, didn't have to had his bestest issues and 411 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 3: that was about all they needed to be fixed. And 412 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: that's another forty or fifty beds that is now permanent 413 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: supportive housing. And you know, you wouldn't know it driving by. 414 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 3: You would have no idea that there's that there's a 415 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: bunch of formerly homeless people living there, and how do 416 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: you get up to you know. 417 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: We got forty five thousand of them because just in 418 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: the city. 419 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: Because that percentage of the of the total population of 420 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 3: the homeless who could be just handled by treatment on 421 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 3: meds is now much less than it was back in 422 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: the day. It's probably more like thirty percent. Because you 423 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: have all the people who came out of the fake 424 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: rehab centers after the insurance ran out, you have all 425 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: the people from the opioid epidemic. You have people let 426 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 3: out of the prisons right and left, and you have 427 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: people that are just saying, hey, if I can live 428 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 3: for free on the street, I will. And you know, 429 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: misery loves company. And when you've got an encampment, you can, 430 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 3: you can, you can. You're not going to do that, 431 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: probably pitch a tent just by yourself on one lonesome 432 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: street corner. But when there's twenty other people they're doing, 433 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: have a community join in, and then an economy starts 434 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: to about and then it's pretty you know, they're all 435 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: fixing bicycles or doing whatever the heck they're doing. How 436 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: much of the how much of the homeless services industry 437 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: is a racket. I'm increasingly it's a great question. 438 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 2: The you set up a homeless nonprofit, you get you know, 439 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: millions of dollars in grants, you pay yourself several hundred 440 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, you're the executive director, You hire all your 441 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: friends and relatives, and you know, you send a guy 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: out on. 443 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: A bicycle to do outreach periodically. 444 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that that happens in a lot of 445 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: places throughout California. I just want to say in Hollywood, 446 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 3: because of it it's Hollywood, and because it's always been 447 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: a magnet for people who are down on their luck, 448 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, or people who end up down on their 449 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: luck because they came out here to be a star, 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: you know, and didn't make it. Hollywood's always had a 451 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: lot of nonprofit organizations that genuinely do help people, and 452 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: they're staffed with people who really do give a darn. 453 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: And the problem is that there's no second step, because 454 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: it's very difficult to get people from getting the initial 455 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: help they need to just be off the street and 456 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: getting them some support and maybe there are some things 457 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: turned around for them, maybe getting them on their meds, 458 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 3: whatever it is. There's a big gap between that and 459 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: then getting them off to do something that's useful and 460 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: to go make a living somewhere. And that's where the 461 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: county and the city really fall fall down. There's no 462 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 3: there's no infrastructure for that stuff anymore. 463 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: It's gone this period though, it's been going on by 464 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: my memory, about seven years. Yeah, about seven years the 465 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: homelessness got really bad. 466 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: I think fifteen twenty sixteen. I think it was in 467 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: a corner. 468 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fueled in part because you know Prop 469 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 2: forty seven and the closing of the prisons when they 470 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: let out tens of thousands. I mean, if you let 471 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: out sixty five thousand prisoners out of the state prisons 472 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: and you're not prosecuting like misdemeanors anymore, well, who do 473 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: you think is? 474 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 475 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: six forty. 476 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: We continue with Jeff Briggs. He's an attorney and he 477 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: won the billing to be co hosts on the show, 478 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: and he's here today. Sixty five hundred dollars bid and 479 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: went to Catarina's Club in Chef Bruno's charity feeding kids. 480 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: I want to play a little clip here of Tracy Parks. 481 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: He's the West Side councilwoman. And what they arrested a 482 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: guy last night, Anthony Jones. They arrest him in San 483 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 2: Diego on the night of April sixth, he attacked two 484 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: win women. And the pictures of one of the women, 485 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 2: which she suffered here is just is just terrible. It's 486 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 2: like you agree, her all beat up there and and 487 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: so one of the victims was a fifty four year 488 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: old woman, Mary Kleine. She suffered eight fractures to her jaw, 489 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 2: laceration on the back of her head, multiple contusions on 490 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: her face and neck, lost several teeth. She's going to 491 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: need a number of surgeries. Her jaw is going to 492 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: be wired shut. Apparently this guy was just walking up 493 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: and would strike these two women from behind with a 494 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: blunt object, leaving one well, leaving leaving this woman unconscious. 495 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: And so Tracy's very upset about it. Let me play 496 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: a little clip of the speech that Tracy gave publicly, 497 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 2: if you could play that cut. 498 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 5: On a personal level, I have been absolutely horrified and 499 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 5: heartbroken by what happened to these women. I can only 500 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 5: imagine the pain and the grief and the anger that 501 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 5: these victims and their families must feel this incident is 502 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: an exceptionally painful reminder that we are in the middle 503 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 5: of a public safety crisis. 504 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: Okay, you can stop it. 505 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: There she goes on, but we're going to have her 506 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: on live coming up after the three o'clock news. This 507 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: is the component that makes me wonder why there isn't 508 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: much more serious, like emergency action taken by the government 509 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: and the bureaucrats. Is these kinds of stories? Yeah, any 510 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 2: is anybody embarrassed? 511 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: Is anybody upset saying, oh, we can't have a city 512 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: like this? 513 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: You know, I suppose they might be embarrassed if they 514 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: thought they actually could lose an election. But I mean, 515 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: look at what just happened in the last mayoral election 516 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: and city council election. You know, you have somebody who's 517 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: extremely unpopular and extremely left wing in my old council 518 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: district CD four, Nithi Rahman. I don't know anybody who 519 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: was paying any attention to her thought she was doing 520 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 3: a good job. Yeah, and she and she did not 521 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: fulfill the promises that she made to the people up 522 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: in the Hillsides who got her elected in the first place. 523 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: And you know what, there was an eighteen percent turnout 524 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: I think to vote, and she didn't even get primaried. 525 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 3: I mean, there was someone trying, right, and she survived 526 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: with fifty one percent of the vote. These folks don't 527 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 3: They don't fear the electorate anymore because they just keep 528 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 3: getting re elected and their whole job is, I want 529 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: to get in government, get elected, and then I'll keep 530 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: moving through jobs. And I got it made for the 531 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 3: rest of eighty. 532 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: Two percent of the public in that district didn't bother 533 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: to vote exactly. It's still though she got more than 534 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: half of the people did bother. 535 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: Who's that? Who are those people? 536 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: Those are the built in votes I think. I mean, look, 537 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 3: you look at the unions and of various kinds and 538 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: other activist organizations. They get their people out to vote, 539 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: and they vote the way they tell him to vote. 540 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: And that's a huge built in number of votes that 541 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: you get right, you know, without even having to try. 542 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: And that's they're just going to pick that person's name 543 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: every time. And that's what happens throughout the city. We 544 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 3: had a Karen Bass hardly talked about homelessness at all 545 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: during a mayoral campaign. It was the number one two 546 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: three and four top issue for voters in the mayoral race. 547 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: Caruso's entire campaign was about fixing homelessness. I don't know 548 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 3: whether he would have been doing or able to do 549 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: it or not. And he gets slaughtered. You know, he 550 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: didn't even come close other than after the primary, I 551 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 3: mean when and then he got to like, you know, hey, 552 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: this is what you voted for. And that's one of 553 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: the things, one of the reasons I left. 554 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: LA What what what does it take to motivate people 555 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: to make life better? 556 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: I haven't. I don't get people. It's like everybody's lost 557 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: the will to live. 558 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't get it. I mean, you know, we talk 559 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: about this all the time in my family. It's like, 560 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: how in the world do you not realize that if 561 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: you're going to complain about this stuff, it's because of 562 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: the people that are making those policy decisions. You got 563 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: to have an impact. Go talk to them. At least vote, 564 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: read the stuff and go vote. It's not that hard. No, 565 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 3: it's not. All right, Jeff, thank you very much, by 566 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: the way, for everything. This hour, you're gonna hang around, yeah, yeah, okay, 567 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: all right. You're gonna have Tracy park On over the 568 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: phone coming up right after three o'clock. Then we got 569 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 3: the moistline too, And when we talk to Tracy, if 570 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: you want to chime in, thanks, I appreciate feel free, 571 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: And Tracy's gonna come on to talk about the case 572 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: that I just laid out a couple of minutes ago, 573 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 3: about the two women who were brutally attacked by this 574 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: crazy guy's named Anthony Jones. They did arrest them down 575 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: in San Diego, but if you could see the injuries 576 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: that this one of the women suffered, it's. 577 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: It's just terrible. 578 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 2: And these I mean, he's twenty nine, he probably has 579 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: been walking around for years on the streets, and god 580 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: knows how many other people he assaulted. None of these 581 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: people start heard this yesterday. Hey, you've been listening to 582 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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