WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Petros Papadakis (07-10-20)

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio grading salutations. Come morning to you Dan Patrick Show,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Parker, who's a provocateur, co host of an outstanding

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<v Speaker 1>radio show, The Odd Couple, and an adjunct professor at

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<v Speaker 1>the University of Southern California. I'm Doug Gottlieb All I

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<v Speaker 1>do is I spit opinions for? Is that what it is?

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<v Speaker 1>You play basketball too, don't you not anymore? I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't not when I want to do professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>Professionally you do a lot of You got to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. I gotta be busy, man. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a busy kind of guy. No, I'm a busy kind

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<v Speaker 1>of guy, but not to your level. So you right

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<v Speaker 1>for dead Spin, which is which has been revamped, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have an article that dropped today. It hasn't dropped yet,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the process of dropping. And uh, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes contract Dog. And I know when people see

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<v Speaker 1>the head lode you talked about at five hundred three million, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he got this great contract, Doug. How much of that

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<v Speaker 1>money's guaranteed fully? Guaranteed. Do you know? Yes, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty one point four eight one million by injury

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<v Speaker 1>March third of two twenty two is fully guaranteed regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of what he does from this point forward. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he blew a golden opportunity to get a fully

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed contract. Given the resume and AMMO that he had,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have changed the thinking of NFL players. All

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<v Speaker 1>the other sports have guaranteed contracts. The NFL still, somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>some way, basically gets away with we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>commit to us, but we're not going to fully commit

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<v Speaker 1>to you. And Kirk Cousins a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen signed that three year, eighty four million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed the first fully guaranteed contract in the NFL. That's true. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going by no, but it's it's not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not actually true. That's the first fully guaranteed contracts. First

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick contracts are fully guaranteed for four years.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all fully guaranteed. Okay, So so the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have and the idea that they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the the rest of the contracts may not be fully guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have absolutely guarantees in him. But but but the

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<v Speaker 1>fully guaranteed NFL rookie first round draft pick contracts are

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<v Speaker 1>fully guaranteed for four years. Okay, here, here, here's that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the way it's that's not what the way

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<v Speaker 1>it's presented when you talk about Kirk Cousins and when

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<v Speaker 1>he got his deal. But anyway, as as a free agents,

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<v Speaker 1>just go out. He got a three year, fully guaranteed deal, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which which just didn't happen in the NFL. There was

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<v Speaker 1>always some out or all the money's not guaranteed, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to make the roster and all of this. He

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<v Speaker 1>got three years fully guaranteed. But my point is that

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<v Speaker 1>of all people who could have changed the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they do business in the NFL is Patrick Mahone. Because

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<v Speaker 1>of his resume, an MVP, a super Bowl in his

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<v Speaker 1>first two years as a starter. The potential people are

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<v Speaker 1>already talking about Chris Bussard already he's Jordan esque, He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the greatest quarterback or has the potential to

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<v Speaker 1>be the greatest quarterback of all time, all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that would would have been worth

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for it now, whether or not the Chiefs wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go Dug ten years extension on the two years

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<v Speaker 1>that were already there, or if it was a five

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<v Speaker 1>or six or seven or eight year, whatever the deal was,

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<v Speaker 1>it should have been totally guaranteed, because that's what other sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I would much rather have Mike Trout's contract with the Angels.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a four hundred and twenty six million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>contract that's fully guaranteed. He will get every nickel of

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<v Speaker 1>his money no matter what happens. And that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL should be moving to. And then people say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you could get hurt on any play, Sure you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady's about to start his twenty first season. Drew Brees,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't sign in Miami because he had an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>People thought he was done. Guy went on to have

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall of Fame career. There's so many examples. Why

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<v Speaker 1>not If a team is asking you to make a

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<v Speaker 1>commitment to them, why shouldn't they have to make a

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<v Speaker 1>real commitment. And I would rather see in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>real contracts I'm talking about. Give a guy a three year,

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<v Speaker 1>fully guaranteed contract. At the end of that time, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's terrible, you move on. He moves on right,

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<v Speaker 1>and he has to go fend for itself. If he's great,

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<v Speaker 1>then he has to get another contract or get more money.

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<v Speaker 1>Not one where I control the narrative. Not one where

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<v Speaker 1>it's I can let you go at any point or decide, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could stay on the team, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a pay cut in order to stay even though

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<v Speaker 1>you have a contract. And then all the other talk

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<v Speaker 1>that comes out when people talk about taking a team

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<v Speaker 1>friendly contract is hey, yeah, this is good for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>This will allow them to give you other players around.

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<v Speaker 1>You can I can I hop in here real quick?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you can? Okay, Um, everything you said actually currently exists,

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<v Speaker 1>and I you're you're you're either misrepresenting what currently exists

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<v Speaker 1>in uh in baseball and in football, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>or or or or we're speaking we're like ships passing

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<v Speaker 1>a night where we're not kind of properly communicating with

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So okay. So so the first thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing is those contracts actually do exist. Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>no you're not going to get a one sided contract.

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<v Speaker 1>He just the idea and the idea that football is

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<v Speaker 1>just like baseball is frankly bull you know what, it

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<v Speaker 1>just hold on, hold on, I get I gave you five,

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<v Speaker 1>I gave you you went five minutes. I'm I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go five minutes. And we will have a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>on this one, okay. But Alex Smith is the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>example of the other side to it. Right, Like Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Smith right now, based upon the salary cap, he still

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<v Speaker 1>costs okay, he still costs thirty two point two million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars against the Washington Redskins or whatever their nickname becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the Washington Redskins cap number thirty two point two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in deadcap money. He's not playing football ever. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a difference in football in baseball. He's lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>have a leg. Okay, So please, Ryan Shazier will never

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<v Speaker 1>play football again. Like the deadcap money, it's a different sport. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So these contracts actually do exist, and here's how players

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves. There's always been you're taking what agents say

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<v Speaker 1>and what the players associations say as law, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's not factual. You can fight for short or

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<v Speaker 1>shorter term like if you want just a small, short

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<v Speaker 1>term guaranteed deal, you know what that's called. That's called

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise. Tag. That's what Dak Prescott has, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's fighting against. He's gonna get thirty one million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and then next year he can either sign a free

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<v Speaker 1>agent deal with somebody else or sign a franchise tag,

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<v Speaker 1>which would likely become thirty two thirty three, thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars again guaranteed, and play the whole thing again. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what what Kirk Cousins did was he risked this

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<v Speaker 1>by doing the franchise tag two consecutive years, much like

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott's doing, which players like I don't want the

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<v Speaker 1>franchise tag. Okay, wait, you don't want a short term

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed deal, but you're saying that somehow a long term

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed deal where you're get paid a bunch of the

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<v Speaker 1>money upfront and then there's a point in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the contract where there's this lump sum payment. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Pat mahomes. Look at the deal. Two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy four point seven eight one million dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>the first six years. They can't cut him that that

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<v Speaker 1>money he will get. He will be on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>and then either they renegotiate a deal or it spikes

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<v Speaker 1>to like fifty million dollars a year, okay, and if

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<v Speaker 1>they cut him then he's he's a free agent on

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<v Speaker 1>the market. That's the way it works. That's actual guaranteed money.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that NFL teams have to protect themselves

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<v Speaker 1>is one because of injury and two you give a dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like just things change over a ten year period.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys complain that they're now underpaid because they sign these

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<v Speaker 1>deals like that's actually the actual criticism of the Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes deal is that it doesn't take into account what's

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be a spike in the salary cap in

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<v Speaker 1>years to come and actually protects him and gives him

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money up front when most people believe

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<v Speaker 1>the salary cap will go down over the next two

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<v Speaker 1>years because we don't know if there's gonna be any

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<v Speaker 1>fans in the stands this year, which is gonna change

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<v Speaker 1>the revenue. So rob respectfully, you're completely either misrepresenting what

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<v Speaker 1>the actual facts are or you're not paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>how it all works. Rookie contract rookie contracts, the first

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<v Speaker 1>round takes are fully guaranteed to have been since the

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<v Speaker 1>dog he has sixty three million right now, guarantee fully guaranteed. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he has one hundred and forty one point four he

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be paid. That's one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>one point four million dollars to injury guarantee sixty. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not reading the kind I haven't. I have it

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. It's six. Look at it. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at Albert Beard. That's what he got paiding morning quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he got paid already Thursday. Okay, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>paid one hundred and three point three million dollars on

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<v Speaker 1>March of March third, third day of the NFL year.

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<v Speaker 1>Next year, then he gets paid one hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>one total, okay total by March third of twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He is getting that money. Whether he plays another snack.

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<v Speaker 1>He's signed for five hundred and three. Doug. My point

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<v Speaker 1>is simply that if you if you're the Kansas City Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're coming to me and you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>make a ten year commitment to you, I'm saying to you,

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<v Speaker 1>as in other sports, I don't care about you could

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<v Speaker 1>have insurance for injuries. You can, Patrick Mahomes. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about every guy. Patrick Mahomes is a is a

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<v Speaker 1>special play. Patrick Mahomes is a guy who if you

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<v Speaker 1>want him to be a part of your organization for

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<v Speaker 1>the next decade, you can go out of your way

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<v Speaker 1>and sign a guy and give him guaranteed money. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about five hundred and three millions. It's not possible,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is. No, it's not. No, it's not you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're stating things that are not possible. Okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>stating things that are actually not possible. It's people do

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time. They do this about baseball. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball contracts are great. That's not true. Two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six million dollars guaranteed doug not great because because listen,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me how it's not great. Because up until last year,

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<v Speaker 1>did you know that Mike Trout was making less a

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars or less throughout his career? Did you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like there becomes a rich and a poor, there is

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<v Speaker 1>not there is not unlimited sums of money. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually the way it works. Okay, that you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>me how four twenty six is bad, dog, This is

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<v Speaker 1>what you just say. It's explained to me, how it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a good deal. It's fully guaranteed, or Manny Machado's

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred million or Bryce Harper's three hundred millions? Bryce?

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<v Speaker 1>How many? Howd's a bad deal? How much is Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Harper making per year? I don't know what the breakdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it in front of me. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the total deal. Okay, how much is the

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<v Speaker 1>total deal? It's over three hundred million? Was a three

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five for how many years? Thirteen years? Okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen into into thirty two is what twenty seven point five? Patrick? Patrick?

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes is guaranteed? There is there is no way

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<v Speaker 1>that they can cut him based upon the dead cat

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<v Speaker 1>money before at the end of the sixth year of

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<v Speaker 1>the contract, which was ever chat money players cut? Have

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<v Speaker 1>there ever been players cut? Yes? All right then, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can't cut? Yes? And what happens with if they

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<v Speaker 1>cut Pat Mahomes? What happens? So he gets it? He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get five three dog answer the answer the question, Rob,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens if he now, look, he'll get one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty one point four million dollars in the next

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<v Speaker 1>in the next uh two years guaranteed? Okay? So he

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<v Speaker 1>has one hundred and forty one. And let's say they

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<v Speaker 1>decided move on, we'll cut him. What happens. What happens,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets another roster bonus for another forty million dollars. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So now he's got one hundred and eighty at any

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<v Speaker 1>point in time that they cut him in those first

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<v Speaker 1>three years. Okay. And then he's a free agent and

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<v Speaker 1>he can sign another deal where it's guaranteed money. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that if he gets cut he can't go

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<v Speaker 1>and get another contract. Again, you're misrepresenting it. Yes, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with the Chiefs. Does signed a bogus Just

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out. He signed up five hundred and three

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<v Speaker 1>is what they get. Chances of him getting five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and three million from the Chiefs, Doug are almost zero

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<v Speaker 1>to none. Really, he'll never get all that money. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>never get that. Am I right or wrong? You're wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>He'll actually get more. He won't give five three from

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs. He will guarantee you he'll get more.

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas was ticked. He got every penny from his

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<v Speaker 1>four year deal sign with the Seattle Seahawks. That four years,

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<v Speaker 1>not twelve years. Dogs I understandelve years, I understand, I understand. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you're the Chiefs, you have to again, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing you're not doing to do that. The

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs aren't gonna go like, oh hey, you want six

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<v Speaker 1>years then to be a free agent. Sure, remember this,

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<v Speaker 1>you're speaking French, I'm speaking English. You're right. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>speaking English. You're speaking grett. No, I'm not free Look, look,

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<v Speaker 1>look they cannot okay, based upon dead cat money and

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<v Speaker 1>the size of this contract, Rob, The reality is they

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<v Speaker 1>can't cut him and then find a replacement at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't for the first six years of the deal,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's two hundred and seventy four million dollars. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they cut him, which would be the stupidest decision ever, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if they cut him, then he will go and get

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<v Speaker 1>all of that money elsewhere. Now, the reason that five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and three million dollars cutting him because he got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt or he's not good anymore. It ain't automatic that

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<v Speaker 1>he would go to another team and recoup that money.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not fat if you're talking about the only

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<v Speaker 1>reason they taught him is that he would hurt or

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<v Speaker 1>he was no good. It ain't because he was great. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what makes just told me that it was a

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed cinch that he's going to be great for the

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<v Speaker 1>next ten years no matter what. Yes, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I said, we can roll back to team asking you.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that we can roll back to take you.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't say that. I said that he they want

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<v Speaker 1>him to make a ten year commitment in a contract extension,

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<v Speaker 1>that they should commit to him the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>other leads that they didn't have to hold on to listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have to, but they also did not have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell he has two years remaining on his contract. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is he's under contract for two years and

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<v Speaker 1>then they could franchise tag him three three different times.

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<v Speaker 1>So the chief you're acting as if he's a free agent,

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<v Speaker 1>and he could have said, you know what, I can

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<v Speaker 1>sign with whoever I want. You are dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>dream scenario that doesn't actually exist. The reality is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansaity Chiefs had him under contract for essentially five

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<v Speaker 1>more years and chose to give him a contract extension

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than we've ever seen. The only thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>asked of him in return is, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>backload the contract with a ton of money, which makes

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<v Speaker 1>you essentially uncuttable at the end of at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of year six, we'll have to rework the deal where

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<v Speaker 1>you'll probably make more money. It ends up being a

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<v Speaker 1>win for Lee Steinberg, a win for the kan City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs because you will always be a chief and we

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<v Speaker 1>have so much money that you're never that. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the biggest contract ever. And while it may

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<v Speaker 1>not keep up with inflation, it also doesn't it also

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt you with deflation, which is likely to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the short term. You're acting as if you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk in and say he wasn't a free agent rob

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't cut him because if you do cut him,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't put any sort of replacement of any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of reasonable number behind him. That's what's happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>New England Patriots. Right pay attention. The Patriots are paying

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen point five in deadcap money to Tom Brady. Why

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't they go out and get pay a legit sum

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<v Speaker 1>for a quarterback. They don't have any money. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>deadcap money does. And the deadcap money on this contract

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<v Speaker 1>makes you uncuttable. And he does have guarantees for two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy four million dollars. Please don't tell me otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great discussion. I just think that for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, the NFL's NFLPA has misrepresented the actual value

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<v Speaker 1>in the contracts that they have. Check out that article

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<v Speaker 1>dead Spin. When does it drop, Rob in the next

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<v Speaker 1>hour or so? In the next hour or so, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next, I want to do this. It do

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<v Speaker 1>it is in regards to NFL players. Raheem Mostert, who

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<v Speaker 1>was an absolute star in the NFC Championship Game, appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be fighting a losing fight. We'll discuss it next

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<v Speaker 1>in The Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday. Petros Papadakis is going to join US College

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<v Speaker 1>Football and I listen a co host of an award

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<v Speaker 1>winning afternoon radio show here in Southern California, where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting from the best guys in the World's great great

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<v Speaker 1>Dude former former USC football player as well, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get his thoughts on the likelihood of a college football

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<v Speaker 1>season being played. I do. He's also a former running back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is interesting. Rob like Raheem Moster,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been cut six times last year, he signed

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<v Speaker 1>an extension with the San Francisco forty nine Ers three years,

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<v Speaker 1>nine million dollars, and he wants to be traded so

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<v Speaker 1>that he can get a bigger role and obviously make

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<v Speaker 1>more money. And I'm just like, like, listen, I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>you finally got a chance to show what you can

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<v Speaker 1>do in the league. And he's an explosive running back.

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<v Speaker 1>He led the NFC champions in rushing yards and had

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<v Speaker 1>that incredibly explosive NFC Championship game. But dude, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>cut six times, you just signed a three year extension

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and you're at a position of declining value.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I missing? Why would the San Francisco forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers trade him? No, they wouldn't want to trade

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<v Speaker 1>him because they got a deal and they know it.

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<v Speaker 1>But my point is, I get the system does not

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<v Speaker 1>work fairly for running backs in the NFL, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not right where basically guys are being used up their

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<v Speaker 1>first four or five years before they are able to

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<v Speaker 1>cash in, and it's it's the only position. Running is

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<v Speaker 1>an important part of the game. I know everybody throws

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<v Speaker 1>the ball now it's it's it's more of a throwing league.

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<v Speaker 1>But to set up the pass and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times and to be able to extend run out the clock,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to get first downs on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. You can't throw every down, So backs are

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<v Speaker 1>very important. We saw him in the postseason. He was

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous for them. He was a reason that they got

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<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl. And I don't blame a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who wants to get paid before the NFL decides, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we used you up enough and as you get a

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<v Speaker 1>little older, you won't have the same value. Where is

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<v Speaker 1>paying that guy during the time when he's been great

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<v Speaker 1>for you? So I get why a running back would

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<v Speaker 1>want to do whatever he could to get more money

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<v Speaker 1>at the time when he's strike, when the iron's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Strike when you're rushing for five and a half yards

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<v Speaker 1>a carry, not when you're rushing for three point two

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<v Speaker 1>yards to carry, and then nobody wants to pay you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get why he needs to force the issue

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<v Speaker 1>to get more money now because his career, unlike most

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<v Speaker 1>football players, is very brief and his earning potential might

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<v Speaker 1>only be five, six or seven years Doug compared to

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<v Speaker 1>other guys. Well, there's a direct contradiction in what you

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<v Speaker 1>just said. Right, You're like, well, the NFL uses up

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, but these guys should get paid more money

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<v Speaker 1>after they get used up, right, Like David Johnson's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect that should get paid. They should. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to be something to compensate them because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not making the money when they're actually at their most productive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a system that is delayed delayed money so that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to wait or you can't. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>free agency if you have a bad year. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I I get I get what you're saying. Okay, but listen,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I understand what you're saying. You're saying they're

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<v Speaker 1>most productive in their first four years, and most of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are now being drafted in the late for

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<v Speaker 1>like second round. Some are drapt in first round. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>there there is there is the Christian McCaffrey contract, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably the best all around back in the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of what he can do catching the football as

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<v Speaker 1>well as a hybrid back. But there's there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>different layers to it in terms of raheem mostert. If

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<v Speaker 1>you if you really if he's under contract, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is Like, hey, dude, sorry, you signed a

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<v Speaker 1>three year deal list year, there's still two more years

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<v Speaker 1>left on it. This is the way that contracts work. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute. Do do teams to tear up contracts

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<v Speaker 1>and reward people do good work for them? Has that

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened occasionally? Sure? Okay, so it does happen, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. You can reward somebody when they've

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<v Speaker 1>outperformed their contract and they've done something good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So to act like you're stuck doing so when you

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<v Speaker 1>if you underperformed, do you give the money back they

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<v Speaker 1>cut you? They ask you for pay cuts. Dog, it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they cut taking pay cuts, I'm asking you, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>stay on a team, yes, and but but but if

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<v Speaker 1>they had value on the open market, they would say

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and cut me, and I'll get it. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go get another deal on my on my own. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there are there are a litany of other running backs

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<v Speaker 1>that the stories we've had. We have enough stories to

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<v Speaker 1>show you the Todd Gurley contract, which was the biggest one.

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<v Speaker 1>He not only had a bad knee, but didn't appear

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<v Speaker 1>to have the work ethic or at least inside the

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<v Speaker 1>front office of the LA Rams. They would rather, they

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<v Speaker 1>would rather pay him money to now play for the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta Falcons than have him on their roster. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>long term contract that was torn up because of his

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<v Speaker 1>production early in his career. Right that actually talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who got hurt. Dug, it happens. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get situations he didn't need. He was hurt. No, he

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<v Speaker 1>was hurt before he got the contracts bad on their

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<v Speaker 1>part then that if they signed a guy was hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my point is that you will have situations

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<v Speaker 1>where guys get hurt during contracts, but those aren't the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones. You could always point to it. They did

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<v Speaker 1>the reason Johnson, David Johnson got hurt two consecutive years

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<v Speaker 1>after having like, there isn't a show me the long

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<v Speaker 1>term contract for the running back where the team got

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<v Speaker 1>the better end of the deal. Leveon Bell's contract was

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<v Speaker 1>so bad that the GM who signed it got fired

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<v Speaker 1>almost immediately after and they can't find any. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, Lavon, Bill's still awesome, but he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that value. Look, the bigger thing is this, and

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<v Speaker 1>the point you made is a smart one, which is, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>in the first four years of their NFL life, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when they're most productive, right, and they should be paid

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<v Speaker 1>more because that's when they're sharpest. That's before they start

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<v Speaker 1>to get beat worn down by the by the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>because as you point out, and you're right, their career

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<v Speaker 1>is brief. In some like Adrian Peterson still somehow accruing yards.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Frank Frank Gore's gonna play till he's fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's unbelievable. Those are the exceptions, and the rule is

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<v Speaker 1>you have a shorter window a lifespan at that position.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't like it, you're taking it up

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<v Speaker 1>with the wrong people. The people to take it up

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<v Speaker 1>with are the NFLPA. That's who negotiated a deal where

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<v Speaker 1>they have these salary slots. I don't disagree with you,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Players Association and the CBA, and the deals

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<v Speaker 1>that they've done are awful. They are awful. Well they

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<v Speaker 1>are and they aren't. And this is part of signing

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<v Speaker 1>up for a union. A union protects at all members,

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<v Speaker 1>even the members that you know, and the greatest number

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<v Speaker 1>of those members are the rank and file guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, by the way, there's just the reality too.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find running backs anywhere. Like my thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you would want to be a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. It's being a running back and thinking you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to make as much in comparison to other guys

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.479
<v Speaker 1>than the team as as as they used to. Like

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just not keeping up with the times. That's I

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know why. It's like the idea of going and

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>be a doctor now right where when we were kids,

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you if you wanted to the big house on the

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>hill was owned by doctors. Okay, but the world has changed.

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.199
<v Speaker 1>And while you can still make a really healthy amount

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>of money if you're a doctor, one to go through

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>medical school is incredibly difficult, incredibly expensive. You're going to

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.360
<v Speaker 1>carry that debt. And then once you become a doctor,

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you have to carry insurance because of all this litigation,

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>right or potential litigation. And so if you want to

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>make a ton of money, you probably become an entrepreneur.

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You got into tech, or you go into finance. That's

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>what you should do as an NFL player. If you

0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>want to be a football player, become a quarter and

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you want to make a ton of money. Wide receiver, quarterback, cornerback,

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 1>defensive end, and left tackle. That's where that's where the

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>money is, and that's where the game has gone based

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>upon the rules. They've changed all the other rules except

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the ones to protect the running backs, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they have a shortened career. Let's bring in a former

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<v Speaker 1>running back in his own right. Petros Papadakis joins us.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hear him afternoons on AM five seventy here

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles with Rob Parker. I'm Doug Gottlieb. Is

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>there any way, Petros, Petro? Is there any way to Rob?

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.439
<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Petros? Is there any way to fix running

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:49.000
<v Speaker 1>backs as the position having a declining value in the NFL? No? No,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>not with the position, and not where they line up,

0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>where the linebackers line up, where the safeties line up.

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>The impact when you hit that guy, even if he

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:03.639
<v Speaker 1>catches a pass, because of where the defense is coming from,

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>that guy's going to get hit and that guy's going

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>to deliver a lot of blows too, and The other

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>thing about running backs that people don't realize is most

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of the time in a football game, you know, unless

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>you get rolled up on. And we see that all

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the time in a replay when a guy, usually a

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>big guy, gets his leg hurt or something, he gets

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>rolled up on from behind. But when you're a running back,

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, people hit you from everywhere, and they hit

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you in the head, and they hit you with their

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>head all over your body. Because you have the ball,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that really doesn't happen. I mean, if you get blocked,

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.680
<v Speaker 1>and football usually you're getting blocked straight away. And we've

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of rules to eliminate what was supposed

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>to be really cool, which all these blind side blocks,

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 1>which are obviously very dangerous. So I don't really think

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>there's a way to litigate protecting or running back like

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>there is. You're keeping your hands off wide receivers while

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:06.119
<v Speaker 1>they're running routes and not hitting the quarterback too hard

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and all that, and they've done a pretty good job

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that stuff, especially a lot of

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>the kill shots in the secondary and the passing game.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I never thought they'd be able to fix that. I've

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:21.439
<v Speaker 1>been calling football games for twenty years about and I

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>never thought that would change. But as far as running

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>backs go, I just I don't know how you help

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that guy, Petro So I know a lot of people.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>I know it's a throw in league now to the

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 1>NFL and quarterbacks and whatnot. But but last year, if

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you looked at the playoffs and the teams that advanced

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 1>or the final four all had running games and good

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>players Dereck Henry with the Titans. Would they have gotten

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to where they were without him running the football? So

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>how do guys who run the football and add value

0:27:54.720 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to the team get paid? Does the SEEBA have to

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>change where those guys get a different contract, will get

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>a contract earlier in their careers, because somehow, some way,

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>those guys kind of get short changed. To me, well

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt about it, and they get short changed physically.

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not the guy to chop up money or

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>understand NFL contracts, especially since I never signed one, but

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it would clearly be better to pay running backs earlier.

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem. I remember, remember that great back Robert Smith,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and he works at Fox. He's a great guy, and

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I remember one year and he was a feature back

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>for the Vikings, one year he got hurt. And then

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>their backup tailback who was a superstar. I remember him

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>in college tearing USC apart in the Rose Bowl was

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy named Leroy Horde. Remember Leroy Horde. Yeah, And

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Leroy Horde had one of the great quotes in the

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>history of running backs, which was, if you need a yard,

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll get you three. If you need ten yards, I'll

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>get you three. And Leroy went out and ran for

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>like twelve hundred thirteen hundred yards. And it's weird. You know,

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>these careers are like firecrackers, and it's really hard to

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>predict when and who is going to get that momentum.

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And the problem is, and this is also an issue

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in today's NFL kind of to be great as a

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>running back, you have to create rhythm and touch the

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>ball a whole bunch, or in the case of a

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 1>guy like Derrick Henry, not only rhythm, but you've got

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to create a situation where the defense gets tired of

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>tackling your big ass, and that means you have to

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>get the ball a lot, and that means it's probably

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>going to shorten your career. So there's a lot of

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>contradictions in there. To help running backs. It's my favorite

0:29:54.360 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>position clearly in football. But nowadays to see it's value

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and how it's dropped and why, I do understand why.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just what happened. I mean, when I was a kid,

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>teams you didn't think about who the quarterback was. Always

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you thought about, you know who the tailback was. The

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs had Christian Koye, the Bears had Neil Anderson,

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the Niners had Roger Craig. That the Rams had Eric Dickerson.

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's when it was like, wow, it wasn't

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>even Petros, it wasn't even you didn't just know the guy.

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>They had a spit like Roger Craig was the high

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>knee style, right, Eric Dickerson had the guy like the

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>team was known for the running back. But like again

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about our childhood times have in fact, was

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the beauties Dug And this really answers Rob's

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>question that one of the beauties of football is the

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>cyclical nature. Up. Yeah, it might be a passing league,

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but watch the Patriots buckled down and go double tight

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.200
<v Speaker 1>end and run people over this year with Cam Newton

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.080
<v Speaker 1>as their quarterback. Because that's what happened to them in

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. Football is always changing and there's always a

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>way to get after somebody the way they least expect it.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the wildcat, for god's sakes, that was just a

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>single wing. That's that's that's and honestly, that's all that

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Some of this red zone readaction or when you direct

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Snapp to the quarterback eleven on eleven football, that's that's

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>single wing. From back when football began, right halfback was

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>half the way back. Fullback was you know, full all

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 1>the way back, like quarterback was only quarter of the

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 1>way back. That's actually why those positions were named as such.

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>From the old single wing. Yeah, there's all kinds of

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>weird stuff, you know, there's the double A lot of

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that stuff went by the wayside because all you had

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to do was watch the offensive line and you could

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>tell where the ball was going off the double teams.

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But now they do it in a zone style, which

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>is the line moves together and they've moved the running

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>back way behind the quarterback or the quarterbacks and a

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>shotgun and they needed a different point and because there's

0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>no pulling or double teaming the line and can't read

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>a hole in the linebacker just goes and fills it.

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>He might have to go scrape all the way over

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the top or do something like that, which is why

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that player is not like my brother or father, who

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>were both middle linebackers and weighed two hundred and sixty

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>five pounds and we're about sixty tall. And if you

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>got in their little zone, they would rock 'em, sock 'em,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>robot your neck. But if you get him out on

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the edge, they might blow both hammys. Football's change a lot,

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's one of the fun things about it, no

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>matter how they try to litigate him. Yeah, and proestors,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you really quickly here, what are

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on the likelihood we have a college football season. Well,

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, I live in la like you guys do,

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and I work in the media like you guys do,

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 1>so I get inundated with so much it's kind of

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>hard to see which way is up. They told us

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a long time ago at Fox, where I've worked and

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>called games for a long time. I've never called games

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>for anybody else really, that we're gonna wait till late

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>July and make a decision. Of course, it's a big

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>part of my livelihood like basketball is for you, and

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 1>we are all suffering, and it's not just in sports,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>clearly a lot of people are suffering way more. So

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to have that perspective. But and then I

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>think of going to Iowa and taking their football away.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's going to happen. You know. We

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 1>had Bruce Feldman on the other day, and he's great

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>at his job, but he was pearl clutching and hand ringing,

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Okay, go down to LSU and

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>tell your buddy Atojeron and Louisiana you're going to take

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>their football. I'm not sure. Then we might not have

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a season, and that's okay. But the whole spring football

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>thing is does not make sense. And I agree with

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people that are talking about it,

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and I have no agenda with it, but it just

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense for these guys bodies in the schedule

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of the world. But I think we'll probably play conference games,

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of funny because a lot of these

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.640
<v Speaker 1>teams are further away from the teams in their conference

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and they of from each other, and one hundred guys

0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>on a team is one hundred guys on a team. Right, So, uh,

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>in a perfect world, we wouldn't be worried about football

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because it's not safe at all. There's no such thing

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>as safety in football. There never has been. It's so

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>much different than these other sports. So if we have

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>this new kind of code of ethics about protecting people,

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>we should probably just cancel the thing. Yeah, say, football

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>goes along with civil war, right, as as as as

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>oxymorons that that in and then you're good. Everybody healthy,

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody health at your house. Yeah, I guess, Well it's

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>this wasn't a trick question. Petros is like, well where'd

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that come from? You know? I just I'm about to

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>say goodbye, but we haven't. We didn't. Like, Hey, let's next, huh,

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>we have a break. We do have breaks. We do have.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 1>These guys are scared of the clock. You know, Hey,

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 1>this is not just where you guys could just talk

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and not break. You know what I'm saying. We're artists,

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>all right, get back to painting, you guys. He's the best.

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.520
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0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:18.440
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0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:19.960
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0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.480
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0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.000
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0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.120
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0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:31.759
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0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.080
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0:35:55.880 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>next hour. We'll ask Bucky about Rob's sir that Pat

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Mahomes should have gotten a fully guaranteed contract. Should have

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>for one, absolutely, he had the uh, he had the arsenal,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>he has the resume, he has the power to force

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>change in the NFL, and he blew a golden opportunity.

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't actually a free agent, but I get that,

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>But they just signed him to a new cut dog Dog.

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>You're acting like I don't know that he was under

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a rookie deal. They still give gave him a deal, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're willing to add a ten year extension. So

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<v Speaker 1>if they were willing to do that, he could have

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<v Speaker 1>been willing to say, I'll sign an extension, but I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted fully guaranteed. Don't make it as if and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure and I'm conceiving, and I'm sure it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been for less money, right, Okay, but it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been guaranteed. That's it isn't there are there are substantial

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<v Speaker 1>guarantees within it. So so let's get to the base

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get agree. What what what don't what don't you

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<v Speaker 1>like about what Baseball's doing. I don't like the idea that,

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<v Speaker 1>uh that the DH is gonna go way. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're using it this year in the sixty game season

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<v Speaker 1>and the chances the universal DH and eventually probably next

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<v Speaker 1>year to next collective bargaining, the DH will go away totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't understand why, Doug. I don't know. Growing up, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>were you in the National League city or an American

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<v Speaker 1>League city? I was a man. Yeah, I grew up

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>in the city of Orange, so I'm an Angel fan.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>My dad was a Mets fan, so yes, everybody I

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<v Speaker 1>love the double switch and National League baseball more so

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<v Speaker 1>than I like the DH, even though Brian Downing had

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<v Speaker 1>this gigantic back when I was a kid that I

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<v Speaker 1>was fascinated by. Remember him, right, But that's my point,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all the talk is to try to make the

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<v Speaker 1>games quicker and move by. And the whole notion of

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<v Speaker 1>a DH compared to her picture. I know, people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to see a picture hit. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>automatic outs, dog that usually make the game move a

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<v Speaker 1>little faster. And and and the National League style of

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>base ball lower scoring, not always, but lower scoring, more pitching,

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<v Speaker 1>and more strategy and decisions. To me, it's a different

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<v Speaker 1>game than the American League. The American League has always

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<v Speaker 1>to me been like softball, you know, where you have

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<v Speaker 1>all these hitters and it's all a waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>three run home run and taking a pitch, taking a pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>taking a pitch. So I'm not so sure that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all in on the idea of changing that style of

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and just going with the American League DH idea.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you remember, in nineteen seventy three, Ron Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>was the first ever to have that position or bat

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<v Speaker 1>as a DH in the American League for the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 1>and back then it was supposed to be a rule

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<v Speaker 1>to try to keep older stars in the game so

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<v Speaker 1>that they could just hit and wouldn't have to play

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<v Speaker 1>the field. But that's totally changed. So I watch it

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I'll accept it, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all the way in on eliminating strategy and and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and just having a DH in both leagues. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>in principle, I agree with you, Okay, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a much more interesting game, especially when you get to

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>playoff baseball in terms of how you when you decide

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 1>to go and get the pitcher or do you just

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.840
<v Speaker 1>pinch hit for him? Like I think, it's it's fast.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is fascinating. Um, the problem with it

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<v Speaker 1>is it, Yeah, you're eliminating jobs, right, that's it's a

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>for the for the for the MLBPA. You're creating more

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>jobs if you have a DH. Uh. College baseball has

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<v Speaker 1>the DH. The minor leagues up until I think Double

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<v Speaker 1>A and Triple A to this point, and again minor

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>leagues not even minor leagues this year, and they're in

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<v Speaker 1>grave danger of eliminating massive amounts of teams in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>but the lower levels of the minor leagues only have

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<v Speaker 1>the DH and so baseball has been trending this way

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. And while while we think baseball

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to faster, that's a it needs more action.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second part you said is completely correct, like

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<v Speaker 1>analytics in baseball has actually increased scoring but decreased watchability

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<v Speaker 1>right absolutely, And for people who don't know this, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three percent of every at bat, only the only people

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<v Speaker 1>that are involved in the at bat or the pitcher,

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>the catcher and the hitter because either walk, strike out,

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<v Speaker 1>or home run, and the analytics tell you you're much

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<v Speaker 1>better to hit a home run than you are to

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>lay down a bunt or to hit a seing eye

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<v Speaker 1>groundball into right field. That's why they've changed the swing plane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why MLB, i'm sure has tightened the baseballs. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the idea was always if you hit

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<v Speaker 1>home runs, people will watch chicks dig the long ball.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact is that if you have a one

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 1>more hitter in the lineup, it dramatically changes the likelihood

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of scoring. And that's what draws eyes offense draws eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and it's what baseball can do. That's what look. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why the NFL said you can't touch back and he

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.840
<v Speaker 1>can't touch a wide receiver after five yards the rules.

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That's why the NBA change you can't hand check guys,

0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and they've opened up the game and the use of entering.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these things are to create more offense, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we used. The American sports fan wants to see,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm not while I agree with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say the reason baseball is doing it is to

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<v Speaker 1>try and create a more watchable game. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the National League game is very watchable. Every game. To me,

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>baseball doesn't always have to be offense. I can enjoy

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.240
<v Speaker 1>a two to one game where there's some good defense

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and plays. I agree with the home runs and strikeouts

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and walks. That is just to an extreme. Now that's

0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.760
<v Speaker 1>where we are. Home Runs have never been an issue

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for me, but when it's just that or a walk,

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<v Speaker 1>it does make it harder to watch. I like to

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>hit and run. I like moving a guy over and

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>scoring on a sacrifice fly. It's okay. I know it's

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.440
<v Speaker 1>not as exciting as a three run home run, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll lose something, and I don't think you'll

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>always have to. There's certain things that maybe hanging onto

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a word. I love the National League style of base

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0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>exists this year? Or if it exists, what will it

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 1>look like? Wait to hear what the Big ten said

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