WEBVTT - Stranger Things Cultural Impact 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:00.880 Warning. 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.760 Today's episode con taste light spoilers for Stranger Things season 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.680 one to three, but more so, it's an exploration of 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.520 the impact of Stranger Things and Netflix on streaming. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.360 Hello. My name is Rosie Night and I'm Joan Monique. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.520 And welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.400 we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.040 pop culture. We are here at iHeart Podcast, where we'll 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.520 be bringing you three episodes a week plus news news. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:45.240 Do I sound like a Grumlin today? 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:48.320 I do that too? Sometimes something it's got to be. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:54.520 It's the plus plus news. I love it. Oh gosh, guys, 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.720 we have such an exciting show for you today. We 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:01.480 are going to be talking about the way Stranger Things 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.400 has impacted the culture. All Right, maybe you weren't there, 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.160 maybe you don't remember. Possibly we're doing lots of drugs 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.360 between now and then. You know, we don't know your life, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.840 but we want to revisit it, and honestly, good for you. Okay, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.800 you're surviving. We get it. So we had to talk 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.759 about the history. We're gonna talk a little bit about 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:25.160 the five big moments that shaped and changed us, and 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.600 then we're gonna talk about the future of the precious 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.160 babies who were given to us unto us through this show. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.120 So yeah, here we go. First, let's talk about the 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.000 history now. Before we started recording Rosie, we were talking 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:43.479 about our different experiences coming into Stranger Things. Yes, what 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.080 was yours in England? Because it was different. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:50.360 Yeah, Netflix didn't really exist in the same way in England. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:56.120 Netflix did not have the massive known quantity effect of 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.800 being a DVD by male company, though I will say 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.440 I do if I'm not mistaken, I do believe there may. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:06.840 Have been a small. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:12.440 Version of that in the UK, but we were generally 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:17.720 not able to watch Netflix until I would say, like 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:23.880 the early early zeros, Like I'm actually, wow, guys, I'm 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.160 learning so much about Netflix right now and my own 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.359 memory of my life because actually Netflix was not. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.160 Launched in the UK until. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:40.280 Like twenty twelve, so I was actually, yeah, twenty twelve. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.720 Wow, that was crazy wow. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:45.320 So yeah, love love that, And that was like six 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.640 years after Netflix had already sent out like a billion 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.480 DVDs or something, you know, like they were so established, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.120 but we didn't really know what they were. But yeah, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.040 twenty twelve was that big thing. And then you know, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:01.640 a year later you get first Netflix original, so for 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:06.079 us and for its perception in Europe, it comes as 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.080 a streaming service boom, and then you get House of 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.359 Cards and then you get Stranger Things. So I think 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.120 for me, like I was not a big Stranger I mean, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.480 I wasn't a big House of Cards head at that time. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.360 So I think for me, I really have such a 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.720 distinct memory of like Netflix Stranger Things. The Stranger Thing 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.320 logo is red, the Netflix logo is red, Like they're 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.320 so intertwined for me, and like I think, I mean, 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.760 we were just watching Stranger Things on Netflix on my 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.560 friend's computer, you know, in her house, and yeah, I 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.160 just I really remember it. It felt so definitive to me 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:41.000 that Stranger Things in Netflix were were kind of forever 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.880 connected in my cultural mind. How was it for you, 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.160 because obviously Netflix was like established in the late nineties, right. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:54.240 Yeah, so Netflix is birthed in ninety seven. I would 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:58.560 say it catches on by like oh four, Like that's 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:02.720 my recollection. My recollection is uh and O four. I'm 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:04.760 in high school. I remember my dad signing up and 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.920 being like, there's this DVD delivery service that's really dope. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.240 We should check it. Out. We have access to all 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.760 these DVDs of movies we have never seen. That's great. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.200 What I remember when I got to college, it was 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.919 sort of a revelation because before Netflix, all you have 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.839 our cable or your local antenna, but antenna stopped being 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.920 produced on TVs, and also cable became completely outpriced for 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.159 like a college like it was, there was no winning. 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.719 And then here comes Netflix, and if I remember correctly, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.279 we played like five ninety nine for Netflix. Maybe you 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.880 know that's easy to split between like four roommates in 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.960 a two bedroom and now we have TV magically and 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:49.400 we love it. And back then Netflix is mostly movies, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.159 so they don't really they're not into their TV getting 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.280 bad yet. So that's how I remember sort of coming 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.679 into Netflix now twenty six teams. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:58.320 Actually, I don't know. 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.599 Why I thought Stranger Things came out earlier than twenty sixteen, 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.640 but it's premiere to Age July fifteenth, twenty sixteen. So 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.760 now I'm firmly established in Los Angeles. I've moved on 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:11.280 from Chicago, and from what I can remember of those 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:16.320 early days of Stranger Things, I remember both that we 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:21.600 were coming toward maybe the apex of the eighties renaissance 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.080 at this point, right and stranger things. For some was 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:29.880 like this too on the nose, we hate it? Why 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:34.359 is it so eighties and in your face annoying? I 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.279 think the rest of the world was like, this is awesome, 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.320 Like it's giving nostalgia fuel. The D and D Nerds 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.719 were like, we are seen and heard and respected. The 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:52.040 lore taken so seriously and with such great vibrato. And 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.279 I think what really moved the needle for me was like, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.800 whenever you cast as many children, it's almost impossible to 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.880 get solid performances out of all of them, and there's 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.240 not really a weak acting link in the bunch. Yeah, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.800 you're able to believe and follow these kids. Their adventures 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:15.360 feel emotionally grounded and yet still accessible to young children. 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.520 They can enjoy it as an old person, like it's 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.920 really a four quadrant series. You want to watch it 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.960 with everybody, from the bicycle chase scenes to the demogorgans 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.400 to just like the basement, like playing in like that whole, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.279 Like if you I hung out in a lot of 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.040 basements going. I grew up in the Midwest Tornado alley, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.440 so we were always in a basement. Uh, and I 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.760 just like the nostalgia feels all of it was really hitting, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:44.039 especially early on. What we didn't know was that there 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:50.839 would be ages, sometimes centuries, it would feel like, between seasons, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:54.720 and that's had a real impact on the series. How 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.400 do you think the series has been sort of impacted 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:03.480 both are exs on how long between seasons and our 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:07.479 ability to carry over from season to season and continue 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:08.080 on with the show. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.640 Well, I would definitely say that I think most of 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.120 us who cover TV, you know, this show was released the. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.960 Same year that I moved out to America. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.960 Actually, wow, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that now. It's 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.120 just kind of crazy, and I just have such a 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.880 distinct memory of like it was such a nostalgic Yeah, Like, 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:27.880 we definitely. 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.080 Could tell it was very tropy. 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.080 We were like noticing all the you know, homages, let's 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.200 put them in comment like quote marks, because there's a 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.720 lot of ripping off going on too. But like, but 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.080 you know, it immersed us. It was something fun, It 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.920 was something that felt really unique to what was coming 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.120 out on TV at the time. It felt very streaming, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:52.400 and I think that ironically has kind of still been 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.000 shaping what we expect from these companies. And the companies 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.360 have used that as a way to change the format, 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:03.320 the shape, the amount of episodes. Stranger Things is an 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:09.040 incredible TV show, but you know, over nine seasons it 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:13.880 will you know, barely have if you can believe it, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.160 actually less than fifty episodes. There will only be forty 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:21.160 two episodes of Stranger Things by the time, Wow, see 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.040 the whole series comes to an end. And that is 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:29.080 extremely different to what we have seen in the past. 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.040 As we know, like shows you'd like Riverdale was one 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.000 of the last shows we'll probably ever get that would 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:37.520 get a twenty two to twenty five episode run, and. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.439 It was some of the craziest stuff you've ever seen. 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.640 And that was coming out every single year with Stranger 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.880 Things because it was a massive success. It was a 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.480 very different kind of TV show. It wasn't a one 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.880 camera drama show. It wasn't a prestige style TV show. 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:54.480 It was a huge genre show with a massive budget 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.080 and special effects. Suddenly they had to make a follow up, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.680 and I think I think that because they were so 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.800 new in the game, the follow up took a longer time, 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.960 and then that started to establish. I mean, when this 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.920 show first came out, I had just left working in 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.080 a comic bookshop. That was my main career. By the 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:19.000 time season three came out, I was a professional journalist 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.400 who was able to visit the set of season three 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:22.000 in Atlanta. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.600 So just that that is a long time. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.640 It was a long time that was not a short 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.360 period of time. But like that set up a new 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.640 expectation from these shows. It also set up something which 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.000 I think is one of the biggest impacts of this show, 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.760 you know, not particularly positive one, but definitely a true one, 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.440 which is the way that the series utilized branding and 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:50.080 I am assuming many many product placement deals to finance itself. 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.120 Means that Stranger Things was able to use brands as 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:59.920 nostalgia and was able to then be selling Stranger Things 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:06.600 branded Eggos, Stranger Things branded seventies or eighties cover KitKat, like, 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.600 there were so many different things. And obviously that has 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.240 gone way beyond that now to the point where now 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.920 you have you know, Stranger Things X Teenage Mutant Ninja, Turtles, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.040 action figures, and you have Demo Gordon plushes and Target 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.480 and stuff. So it ended up becoming a brand in 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.080 of itself, but a lot of that, Yeah, no, at 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.840 the nostalgia of other brands, and then they use that 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:33.280 to turn themselves into a sellable nostalgia brand. And now, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.400 because it's taken nine years, there are kids who feel 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.000 nostalgic about season one. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.840 Mind blowing bananas. I think there's no better example of 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.320 that than D and D. And what we've seen coming 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.520 out like watching these kids play D and D ignited 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.120 a desire to learn about D and D in me. 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.840 I mean genuinely went to my friend's place and was like, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.800 how come we're not playing DND? Does that make sense 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:00.400 to you? Because we like all Oh absolutely, we love building, 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.280 we love storytelling, we love creating a character. Ask me 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.480 how long I spend creating characters and video games I've 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:11.120 never finished. I love crafting. And I think there's the 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.640 reason D and D is where it's at today is 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.800 because of what happened with Stranger Things. So yeah, the 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.480 impact absolutely cannot be denied. We're gonna go to break 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:22.240 real quick, and when we come back, we're gonna talk 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.559 about the five most impactful moments from Stranger Things to 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:45.839 stay and we're back. Oh my god, he recapping that 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.320 show is so weird. I've been revisiting it as we 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.080 prepare you and Jason have a lovely season four recap 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.240 coming up. I've been trying to refamiliarize myself with the 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.520 show and the number of iconic moments, and we should 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.200 say it was interesting earlier you were talking about the 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.199 time between shows. So like season one premier July fifteenth, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.760 twenty sixteen, then October twenty seventeen we get season two. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.120 It is then two years later in twenty nineteen, again 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.440 back in July we get season three. Season four comes 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.640 out May twenty seventh, twenty twenty two. So there will 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.760 be four years and. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.840 Some yeah, difference then, yeah, and then four years now. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:27.360 Yeah. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:28.520 Yeah, that's crazy. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:34.040 It's uh, it's daunting. Yeah, three years. I I what 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:38.120 is math? Guys, please don't judge me. I'm sort of 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.040 blown away by the moments. I think, you know, running 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.080 up that hill is one that everyone kind of remembers. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.160 I actually think for me, I would say that's probably 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.400 the defining scene of the show now, just culturally, I 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.600 think I've I was talking to Jason, I was like, basically, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.880 here is what you see in the garden of every 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.280 fancy person in La They have a floating max. They 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.359 still do, and it's an incredible thing. It looks incredible 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:09.959 and that is like decorations. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.080 Yeah, they have them all over. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.200 And they're so great, and I think that to me 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.760 is taken over from say the Four Bikes, and in 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.719 its own way, it's actually pretty cool because it is 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:25.240 more unique than necessarily the four Bikes, which was very 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.640 much homage to your etis and stuff like that. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:28.920 I want to shout out. 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.320 It's something that I know people have been skipping in 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:32.360 their rewatches. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:32.920 Guys. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.119 I know you've been doing this and that is acceptable, 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.480 but I have been in there arguing the goodness of 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.600 In season three, there was a very maligned episode where 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:50.719 Eleven goes to Chicago and she goes and it is 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:58.200 essentially an adventure where she ends up finding out that 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.920 she has a lost sisters that it's episode seven, and 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.959 she finds Carli, who is number eight, and it is 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.280 legitimately fantastic. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.600 It's basically a really brilliant teen X Men episode, and 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.120 at the time people. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.199 Just did not get it, and you know why, because 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.240 they don't like a story that's just about Eleven. It 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.000 has to be in the context of the men in 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:23.680 her life. It has to be Hopper, it has to. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:24.160 Be the boys. 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.479 But here she gets to go have her own existence, 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:33.120 find her sister, have this found family kind of realization 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.760 that then inspires her to allow her to save Hawkins 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.000 and her friends because she understands the importance of friends, 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.880 She understands the importance of found family. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:46.240 I thought it was super cool. It's really punky everyone. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.120 When it came out. Oh, I think the Lost Sister 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.800 goes in the top five because I think it's we 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.680 get a story that's actually just about eleven. It's not 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.000 about eleven in Henry Creole, It's not about eleven and 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.400 her shit head dad. It's not about eleven ship that 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:04.280 she had second dad. Hot, but it's not about. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.280 It's about eleven and Mike. 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.080 It's just about it's not about eleven relationship. 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:11.360 I obnoxious, if not very honest about what if you 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:15.880 find a romantic interest at that age? So obnoxious mostly 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.600 sometimes okay, can sweet. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.960 So those are so far we've got running up that 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.880 hell and then we've got I'm doing the Lost Sister. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.600 What's your third My sister is so bold, Rosie so bold, dude. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:29.400 I know I'm gonna put it in. 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.960 Then I'm gonna tell everyone you better be watching it, Guys, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.160 I'm gonna make an infographic and put it on Instagram 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.520 and saying. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.600 Wow, I should threaten you. Uh, then let me also 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:41.680 threaten you with a good time. His name is Joseph Quinn. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.520 In this show, he plays Eddie Monthson, Bass got long hair, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.160 and he shreds on guitar, and he's friends with all 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.480 of the losers. You'd want to be his best friend. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.440 After watching this show, good kid labeled bad misunderstood because 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.040 he wants to be a punk in the eighties and 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.000 people don't get it. But he's actually the most golden 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:08.160 hearted teddy bear. Joseph Quinn jumping in made me care again. Yeah, 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.560 I think I'm back. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:11.960 Yeah. 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:15.120 Most of our extra vision coverage of season four at 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.760 the time when it came out was us talking about 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.280 the impact of Eddie Munson. There has been a lot 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.880 of talk about whether or not he's coming back. They 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.560 denied that he is coming back this season, but I 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.160 feel like he at least we at least have to 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.640 get a vision of him, especially now we understand the 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.680 way that Vecna is connected to the upside Down and 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.360 the way that it seems like there are other people 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.120 who are trapped in the upside down. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.160 Who can be possessed or maybe possessed other people. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.400 So I feel like we're gonna at least get like 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.720 a demo organ version of Eddie. 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.480 One hundred percent. And let me just pause right here 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.320 to do a couple of honorable mentions because I don't 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.960 want our list to be too thirsty. I just we 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.560 have to have some containedness. So I'm gonna also, uh, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.440 Steve in the ice cream suit, what was half? It 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.280 was crazy? Shnany I was like, this is the most 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.360 adorable like moment if I can borrow a for as 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.600 from two thousand and eight, just really cute moment. I 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:14.240 also think when we found out Vecna was weirdly hot, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.280 when we were like, Jamie Campbell Bauer is playing Vecna, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.800 what's under that makeup? For real? Truly a moment for us. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.720 And then I would also finally just end sorry to 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.840 be all white men in this space, but Sean Aston 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.760 out here representing for the big guys. We love him. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.960 He's such a game. When we talk about our golden 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:40.959 hearted Teddy bears, none better, none better than a man 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.359 who laid down his life for his friends. We love 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.480 Bob Nuby and see, I just wanted to sneak a 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:48.320 couple of honorable mentions of some of my favorites. Oh, 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:49.880 I dude, in this show. 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.040 I mean, there's so many there's so many great things 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:56.160 and stranger things. I mean, just my fav I do 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.760 think that when they introduced Max in season two, they 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.439 really did expand the old of Eleven and having the 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.440 idea of its starting off with jealousy but then actually 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.600 ending off is like a friendship and the evolution of 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.560 that friendship and allowing Eleven to have a female friend 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.400 in the way that kind of evolves in season three 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.879 and season four. I think that's actually like a really 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:21.000 powerful good choice they made, even though it's not necessarily 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.840 like the again, like it's is that like the most 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.560 thing most people are gonna remember at the end. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.600 Nobody was absolutely not an essential choice necessary so that 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.879 we don't hate the show, because honestly, because the only 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.040 other option that is to make them enemies or to 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:38.840 have no other girls on the show. You know, we 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.920 have the little Sisters and they're fun, but let's be honest, 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:45.880 they haven't had much of an arc. You know, there's 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:50.080 not a lot for them to do. Even our girl 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.320 Erica Sinclair played by Prior Ferguson, who I think is 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.000 like an incredibly talented actor. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.280 They're so good together. Two, they're so funny. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.560 They're so funny. I really hope Ericauld it's more to 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:05.200 do in the coming season two. But yeah, okay, we 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.159 have one final place. I think we should choose it 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:15.280 together for our top five. What do we think is ahead? 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:16.879 Is it just the first episode? 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:20.120 Like I feel like if the I feel like if 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.000 the pilot didn't hook people so much, Like we know, 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.240 a lot of shows on Netflix don't get past people 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.200 pressing play on the first episode. So I do think 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.199 when I think of Stranger Things, and I think of 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.720 eleven with her little shaved head and her little you know, 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.360 hospital outfit, which, by the way, we should probably put 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:39.800 in there is like one of the most influential Halloween 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.119 costumes of all time that had every the world in 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.679 a choke hold for like five years. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:47.520 If we did see so many Elevens early on, absolutely. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.679 Yeah, so so, like I wonder if it is just 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.879 the first episode. Joelle pitched me your final spot in 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:53.560 our top five. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.160 Okay, and hear me out. We're so feminist. I love 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.679 our No. One else will come up with the women 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.240 some hot eyes. Anyway, Uh my pitch is the death 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:09.240 of Barb because to me, the internet discourse was so 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:16.080 we're talking like Twitter's booming in twenty sixteen, it's fabulous. 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.240 We truly were not appreciative of what we had at 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:25.680 the time, and Barb's death like killing off the ugly 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:31.200 friend off like annoying, frustrating, the lack of care consideration 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.159 most of the characters had for her afterwards, like it 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.600 really was a point, and then the fact that we 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.280 get barely like they kind of get justice for Barb 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:45.840 in season two, but it's ish, is it? 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.360 And I don't know, Yeah, I think you win. 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.199 I actually think you could argue that the death of 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:56.119 Bob is the most culturally impactful thing for a Stranger 0:20:56.160 --> 0:21:04.240 Things because actually, guess yes, who was at the Stranger 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:10.600 Things season five premiere Shannon Purser. It was Shannon Purson 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:15.399 aka bab Bob, who was styled by the incredible Sophie Strauss, 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:17.520 who I love, who I feel I didn't pay this, 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.320 She's just amazing, and Sophie styled her as like Daddy Bob, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.120 so it. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:28.679 Was incredible, hot black outfit. She looked incredible. 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.800 I'm hoping that's because maybe we'll get Bob in the 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.440 upside down, or maybe we'll learn something more about Bob. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.000 But if not, I do also feel like it launed 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:41.200 Shannon Purser's Korea, you know, Riverdale, specifically. Roberto Aguaya Sakasa 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.040 like wrote a character in for her. Like she has 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:48.280 become a legend in her own right kind of. You know, 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:53.760 it's like when, yeah, when John Travolta, you know, accidentally 0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:58.480 said Idina Menzel's name was Adele Desim. She said, in 0:21:58.520 --> 0:21:59.880 a way, you know, it was kind of the best 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.480 that ever happened to because suddenly everyone knew who she was. 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:05.800 And even though they the Duffer brothers were wrong to 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:10.160 kill Bob, Shannon is now, you know, life of the party. 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.480 She was in Riverdale right till the very end. I 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:14.680 love to see her in Riverdale makes me so happy. 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:20.320 Wish Upon really actually just crazy haunted wish Box Slash 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:21.320 a movie which I loved. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:22.480 Sarah Burgess is. 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.199 A loser, like she's she's doing the stuff. We need 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.879 to get her more roles. But yeah, I mean the 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.680 fact that she's still there nine years later. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.480 It's like they had to bring her back like she 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:38.680 was harm from Fast and the Furious. 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:45.640 Justice for Barb finally and wait, Eddie Munson, Justice for Bob. 0:22:46.560 --> 0:22:49.399 Bob team up in the upside Down to save the kids. 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:51.520