Speaker 1: Warning.
Speaker 2: Today's episode con taste light spoilers for Stranger Things season
Speaker 2: one to three, but more so, it's an exploration of
Speaker 2: the impact of Stranger Things and Netflix on streaming.
Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Rosie Night and I'm Joan Monique.
Speaker 2: And welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where
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Speaker 3: Do I sound like a Grumlin today?
Speaker 1: I do that too? Sometimes something it's got to be.
Speaker 3: It's the plus plus news. I love it. Oh gosh, guys,
Speaker 3: we have such an exciting show for you today. We
Speaker 3: are going to be talking about the way Stranger Things
Speaker 3: has impacted the culture. All Right, maybe you weren't there,
Speaker 3: maybe you don't remember. Possibly we're doing lots of drugs
Speaker 3: between now and then. You know, we don't know your life,
Speaker 3: but we want to revisit it, and honestly, good for you. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're surviving. We get it. So we had to talk
Speaker 3: about the history. We're gonna talk a little bit about
Speaker 3: the five big moments that shaped and changed us, and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna talk about the future of the precious
Speaker 3: babies who were given to us unto us through this show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, here we go. First, let's talk about the
Speaker 3: history now. Before we started recording Rosie, we were talking
Speaker 3: about our different experiences coming into Stranger Things. Yes, what
Speaker 3: was yours in England? Because it was different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Netflix didn't really exist in the same way in England.
Speaker 2: Netflix did not have the massive known quantity effect of
Speaker 2: being a DVD by male company, though I will say
Speaker 2: I do if I'm not mistaken, I do believe there may.
Speaker 1: Have been a small.
Speaker 2: Version of that in the UK, but we were generally
Speaker 2: not able to watch Netflix until I would say, like
Speaker 2: the early early zeros, Like I'm actually, wow, guys, I'm
Speaker 2: learning so much about Netflix right now and my own
Speaker 2: memory of my life because actually Netflix was not.
Speaker 1: Launched in the UK until.
Speaker 2: Like twenty twelve, so I was actually, yeah, twenty twelve.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was crazy wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, love love that, And that was like six
Speaker 2: years after Netflix had already sent out like a billion
Speaker 2: DVDs or something, you know, like they were so established,
Speaker 2: but we didn't really know what they were. But yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty twelve was that big thing. And then you know,
Speaker 2: a year later you get first Netflix original, so for
Speaker 2: us and for its perception in Europe, it comes as
Speaker 2: a streaming service boom, and then you get House of
Speaker 2: Cards and then you get Stranger Things. So I think
Speaker 2: for me, like I was not a big Stranger I mean,
Speaker 2: I wasn't a big House of Cards head at that time.
Speaker 2: So I think for me, I really have such a
Speaker 2: distinct memory of like Netflix Stranger Things. The Stranger Thing
Speaker 2: logo is red, the Netflix logo is red, Like they're
Speaker 2: so intertwined for me, and like I think, I mean,
Speaker 2: we were just watching Stranger Things on Netflix on my
Speaker 2: friend's computer, you know, in her house, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: just I really remember it. It felt so definitive to me
Speaker 2: that Stranger Things in Netflix were were kind of forever
Speaker 2: connected in my cultural mind. How was it for you,
Speaker 2: because obviously Netflix was like established in the late nineties, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Netflix is birthed in ninety seven. I would
Speaker 3: say it catches on by like oh four, Like that's
Speaker 3: my recollection. My recollection is uh and O four. I'm
Speaker 3: in high school. I remember my dad signing up and
Speaker 3: being like, there's this DVD delivery service that's really dope.
Speaker 3: We should check it. Out. We have access to all
Speaker 3: these DVDs of movies we have never seen. That's great.
Speaker 3: What I remember when I got to college, it was
Speaker 3: sort of a revelation because before Netflix, all you have
Speaker 3: our cable or your local antenna, but antenna stopped being
Speaker 3: produced on TVs, and also cable became completely outpriced for
Speaker 3: like a college like it was, there was no winning.
Speaker 3: And then here comes Netflix, and if I remember correctly,
Speaker 3: we played like five ninety nine for Netflix. Maybe you
Speaker 3: know that's easy to split between like four roommates in
Speaker 3: a two bedroom and now we have TV magically and
Speaker 3: we love it. And back then Netflix is mostly movies,
Speaker 3: so they don't really they're not into their TV getting
Speaker 3: bad yet. So that's how I remember sort of coming
Speaker 3: into Netflix now twenty six teams.
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Why I thought Stranger Things came out earlier than twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: but it's premiere to Age July fifteenth, twenty sixteen. So
Speaker 3: now I'm firmly established in Los Angeles. I've moved on
Speaker 3: from Chicago, and from what I can remember of those
Speaker 3: early days of Stranger Things, I remember both that we
Speaker 3: were coming toward maybe the apex of the eighties renaissance
Speaker 3: at this point, right and stranger things. For some was
Speaker 3: like this too on the nose, we hate it? Why
Speaker 3: is it so eighties and in your face annoying? I
Speaker 3: think the rest of the world was like, this is awesome,
Speaker 3: Like it's giving nostalgia fuel. The D and D Nerds
Speaker 3: were like, we are seen and heard and respected. The
Speaker 3: lore taken so seriously and with such great vibrato. And
Speaker 3: I think what really moved the needle for me was like,
Speaker 3: whenever you cast as many children, it's almost impossible to
Speaker 3: get solid performances out of all of them, and there's
Speaker 3: not really a weak acting link in the bunch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're able to believe and follow these kids. Their adventures
Speaker 3: feel emotionally grounded and yet still accessible to young children.
Speaker 3: They can enjoy it as an old person, like it's
Speaker 3: really a four quadrant series. You want to watch it
Speaker 3: with everybody, from the bicycle chase scenes to the demogorgans
Speaker 3: to just like the basement, like playing in like that whole,
Speaker 3: Like if you I hung out in a lot of
Speaker 3: basements going. I grew up in the Midwest Tornado alley,
Speaker 3: so we were always in a basement. Uh, and I
Speaker 3: just like the nostalgia feels all of it was really hitting,
Speaker 3: especially early on. What we didn't know was that there
Speaker 3: would be ages, sometimes centuries, it would feel like, between seasons,
Speaker 3: and that's had a real impact on the series. How
Speaker 3: do you think the series has been sort of impacted
Speaker 3: both are exs on how long between seasons and our
Speaker 3: ability to carry over from season to season and continue
Speaker 3: on with the show.
Speaker 2: Well, I would definitely say that I think most of
Speaker 2: us who cover TV, you know, this show was released the.
Speaker 1: Same year that I moved out to America.
Speaker 2: Actually, wow, yeah, I know, I'm realizing that now. It's
Speaker 2: just kind of crazy, and I just have such a
Speaker 2: distinct memory of like it was such a nostalgic Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: we definitely.
Speaker 1: Could tell it was very tropy.
Speaker 2: We were like noticing all the you know, homages, let's
Speaker 2: put them in comment like quote marks, because there's a
Speaker 2: lot of ripping off going on too. But like, but
Speaker 2: you know, it immersed us. It was something fun, It
Speaker 2: was something that felt really unique to what was coming
Speaker 2: out on TV at the time. It felt very streaming,
Speaker 2: and I think that ironically has kind of still been
Speaker 2: shaping what we expect from these companies. And the companies
Speaker 2: have used that as a way to change the format,
Speaker 2: the shape, the amount of episodes. Stranger Things is an
Speaker 2: incredible TV show, but you know, over nine seasons it
Speaker 2: will you know, barely have if you can believe it,
Speaker 2: actually less than fifty episodes. There will only be forty
Speaker 2: two episodes of Stranger Things by the time, Wow, see
Speaker 2: the whole series comes to an end. And that is
Speaker 2: extremely different to what we have seen in the past.
Speaker 2: As we know, like shows you'd like Riverdale was one
Speaker 2: of the last shows we'll probably ever get that would
Speaker 2: get a twenty two to twenty five episode run, and.
Speaker 1: It was some of the craziest stuff you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: And that was coming out every single year with Stranger
Speaker 2: Things because it was a massive success. It was a
Speaker 2: very different kind of TV show. It wasn't a one
Speaker 2: camera drama show. It wasn't a prestige style TV show.
Speaker 2: It was a huge genre show with a massive budget
Speaker 2: and special effects. Suddenly they had to make a follow up,
Speaker 2: and I think I think that because they were so
Speaker 2: new in the game, the follow up took a longer time,
Speaker 2: and then that started to establish. I mean, when this
Speaker 2: show first came out, I had just left working in
Speaker 2: a comic bookshop. That was my main career. By the
Speaker 2: time season three came out, I was a professional journalist
Speaker 2: who was able to visit the set of season three
Speaker 2: in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: So just that that is a long time.
Speaker 2: It was a long time that was not a short
Speaker 2: period of time. But like that set up a new
Speaker 2: expectation from these shows. It also set up something which
Speaker 2: I think is one of the biggest impacts of this show,
Speaker 2: you know, not particularly positive one, but definitely a true one,
Speaker 2: which is the way that the series utilized branding and
Speaker 2: I am assuming many many product placement deals to finance itself.
Speaker 2: Means that Stranger Things was able to use brands as
Speaker 2: nostalgia and was able to then be selling Stranger Things
Speaker 2: branded Eggos, Stranger Things branded seventies or eighties cover KitKat, like,
Speaker 2: there were so many different things. And obviously that has
Speaker 2: gone way beyond that now to the point where now
Speaker 2: you have you know, Stranger Things X Teenage Mutant Ninja, Turtles,
Speaker 2: action figures, and you have Demo Gordon plushes and Target
Speaker 2: and stuff. So it ended up becoming a brand in
Speaker 2: of itself, but a lot of that, Yeah, no, at
Speaker 2: the nostalgia of other brands, and then they use that
Speaker 2: to turn themselves into a sellable nostalgia brand. And now,
Speaker 2: because it's taken nine years, there are kids who feel
Speaker 2: nostalgic about season one.
Speaker 3: Mind blowing bananas. I think there's no better example of
Speaker 3: that than D and D. And what we've seen coming
Speaker 3: out like watching these kids play D and D ignited
Speaker 3: a desire to learn about D and D in me.
Speaker 3: I mean genuinely went to my friend's place and was like,
Speaker 3: how come we're not playing DND? Does that make sense
Speaker 3: to you? Because we like all Oh absolutely, we love building,
Speaker 3: we love storytelling, we love creating a character. Ask me
Speaker 3: how long I spend creating characters and video games I've
Speaker 3: never finished. I love crafting. And I think there's the
Speaker 3: reason D and D is where it's at today is
Speaker 3: because of what happened with Stranger Things. So yeah, the
Speaker 3: impact absolutely cannot be denied. We're gonna go to break
Speaker 3: real quick, and when we come back, we're gonna talk
Speaker 3: about the five most impactful moments from Stranger Things to
Speaker 3: stay and we're back. Oh my god, he recapping that
Speaker 3: show is so weird. I've been revisiting it as we
Speaker 3: prepare you and Jason have a lovely season four recap
Speaker 3: coming up. I've been trying to refamiliarize myself with the
Speaker 3: show and the number of iconic moments, and we should
Speaker 3: say it was interesting earlier you were talking about the
Speaker 3: time between shows. So like season one premier July fifteenth,
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, then October twenty seventeen we get season two.
Speaker 3: It is then two years later in twenty nineteen, again
Speaker 3: back in July we get season three. Season four comes
Speaker 3: out May twenty seventh, twenty twenty two. So there will
Speaker 3: be four years and.
Speaker 1: Some yeah, difference then, yeah, and then four years now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's daunting. Yeah, three years. I I what
Speaker 3: is math? Guys, please don't judge me. I'm sort of
Speaker 3: blown away by the moments. I think, you know, running
Speaker 3: up that hill is one that everyone kind of remembers.
Speaker 2: I actually think for me, I would say that's probably
Speaker 2: the defining scene of the show now, just culturally, I
Speaker 2: think I've I was talking to Jason, I was like, basically,
Speaker 2: here is what you see in the garden of every
Speaker 2: fancy person in La They have a floating max. They
Speaker 2: still do, and it's an incredible thing. It looks incredible
Speaker 2: and that is like decorations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have them all over.
Speaker 2: And they're so great, and I think that to me
Speaker 2: is taken over from say the Four Bikes, and in
Speaker 2: its own way, it's actually pretty cool because it is
Speaker 2: more unique than necessarily the four Bikes, which was very
Speaker 2: much homage to your etis and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I want to shout out.
Speaker 2: It's something that I know people have been skipping in
Speaker 2: their rewatches.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 2: I know you've been doing this and that is acceptable,
Speaker 2: but I have been in there arguing the goodness of
Speaker 2: In season three, there was a very maligned episode where
Speaker 2: Eleven goes to Chicago and she goes and it is
Speaker 2: essentially an adventure where she ends up finding out that
Speaker 2: she has a lost sisters that it's episode seven, and
Speaker 2: she finds Carli, who is number eight, and it is
Speaker 2: legitimately fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's basically a really brilliant teen X Men episode, and
Speaker 1: at the time people.
Speaker 2: Just did not get it, and you know why, because
Speaker 2: they don't like a story that's just about Eleven. It
Speaker 2: has to be in the context of the men in
Speaker 2: her life. It has to be Hopper, it has to.
Speaker 1: Be the boys.
Speaker 2: But here she gets to go have her own existence,
Speaker 2: find her sister, have this found family kind of realization
Speaker 2: that then inspires her to allow her to save Hawkins
Speaker 2: and her friends because she understands the importance of friends,
Speaker 2: She understands the importance of found family.
Speaker 1: I thought it was super cool. It's really punky everyone.
Speaker 2: When it came out. Oh, I think the Lost Sister
Speaker 2: goes in the top five because I think it's we
Speaker 2: get a story that's actually just about eleven. It's not
Speaker 2: about eleven in Henry Creole, It's not about eleven and
Speaker 2: her shit head dad. It's not about eleven ship that
Speaker 2: she had second dad. Hot, but it's not about.
Speaker 3: It's about eleven and Mike.
Speaker 1: It's just about it's not about eleven relationship.
Speaker 3: I obnoxious, if not very honest about what if you
Speaker 3: find a romantic interest at that age? So obnoxious mostly
Speaker 3: sometimes okay, can sweet.
Speaker 2: So those are so far we've got running up that
Speaker 2: hell and then we've got I'm doing the Lost Sister.
Speaker 3: What's your third My sister is so bold, Rosie so bold, dude.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna put it in.
Speaker 2: Then I'm gonna tell everyone you better be watching it, Guys,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make an infographic and put it on Instagram
Speaker 2: and saying.
Speaker 3: Wow, I should threaten you. Uh, then let me also
Speaker 3: threaten you with a good time. His name is Joseph Quinn.
Speaker 3: In this show, he plays Eddie Monthson, Bass got long hair,
Speaker 3: and he shreds on guitar, and he's friends with all
Speaker 3: of the losers. You'd want to be his best friend.
Speaker 3: After watching this show, good kid labeled bad misunderstood because
Speaker 3: he wants to be a punk in the eighties and
Speaker 3: people don't get it. But he's actually the most golden
Speaker 3: hearted teddy bear. Joseph Quinn jumping in made me care again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I'm back.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Most of our extra vision coverage of season four at
Speaker 2: the time when it came out was us talking about
Speaker 2: the impact of Eddie Munson. There has been a lot
Speaker 2: of talk about whether or not he's coming back. They
Speaker 2: denied that he is coming back this season, but I
Speaker 2: feel like he at least we at least have to
Speaker 2: get a vision of him, especially now we understand the
Speaker 2: way that Vecna is connected to the upside Down and
Speaker 2: the way that it seems like there are other people
Speaker 2: who are trapped in the upside down.
Speaker 1: Who can be possessed or maybe possessed other people.
Speaker 2: So I feel like we're gonna at least get like
Speaker 2: a demo organ version of Eddie.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And let me just pause right here
Speaker 3: to do a couple of honorable mentions because I don't
Speaker 3: want our list to be too thirsty. I just we
Speaker 3: have to have some containedness. So I'm gonna also, uh,
Speaker 3: Steve in the ice cream suit, what was half? It
Speaker 3: was crazy? Shnany I was like, this is the most
Speaker 3: adorable like moment if I can borrow a for as
Speaker 3: from two thousand and eight, just really cute moment. I
Speaker 3: also think when we found out Vecna was weirdly hot,
Speaker 3: when we were like, Jamie Campbell Bauer is playing Vecna,
Speaker 3: what's under that makeup? For real? Truly a moment for us.
Speaker 3: And then I would also finally just end sorry to
Speaker 3: be all white men in this space, but Sean Aston
Speaker 3: out here representing for the big guys. We love him.
Speaker 3: He's such a game. When we talk about our golden
Speaker 3: hearted Teddy bears, none better, none better than a man
Speaker 3: who laid down his life for his friends. We love
Speaker 3: Bob Nuby and see, I just wanted to sneak a
Speaker 3: couple of honorable mentions of some of my favorites. Oh,
Speaker 3: I dude, in this show.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many there's so many great things
Speaker 2: and stranger things. I mean, just my fav I do
Speaker 2: think that when they introduced Max in season two, they
Speaker 2: really did expand the old of Eleven and having the
Speaker 2: idea of its starting off with jealousy but then actually
Speaker 2: ending off is like a friendship and the evolution of
Speaker 2: that friendship and allowing Eleven to have a female friend
Speaker 2: in the way that kind of evolves in season three
Speaker 2: and season four. I think that's actually like a really
Speaker 2: powerful good choice they made, even though it's not necessarily
Speaker 2: like the again, like it's is that like the most
Speaker 2: thing most people are gonna remember at the end.
Speaker 3: Nobody was absolutely not an essential choice necessary so that
Speaker 3: we don't hate the show, because honestly, because the only
Speaker 3: other option that is to make them enemies or to
Speaker 3: have no other girls on the show. You know, we
Speaker 3: have the little Sisters and they're fun, but let's be honest,
Speaker 3: they haven't had much of an arc. You know, there's
Speaker 3: not a lot for them to do. Even our girl
Speaker 3: Erica Sinclair played by Prior Ferguson, who I think is
Speaker 3: like an incredibly talented actor.
Speaker 1: They're so good together. Two, they're so funny.
Speaker 3: They're so funny. I really hope Ericauld it's more to
Speaker 3: do in the coming season two. But yeah, okay, we
Speaker 3: have one final place. I think we should choose it
Speaker 3: together for our top five. What do we think is ahead?
Speaker 1: Is it just the first episode?
Speaker 2: Like I feel like if the I feel like if
Speaker 2: the pilot didn't hook people so much, Like we know,
Speaker 2: a lot of shows on Netflix don't get past people
Speaker 2: pressing play on the first episode. So I do think
Speaker 2: when I think of Stranger Things, and I think of
Speaker 2: eleven with her little shaved head and her little you know,
Speaker 2: hospital outfit, which, by the way, we should probably put
Speaker 2: in there is like one of the most influential Halloween
Speaker 2: costumes of all time that had every the world in
Speaker 2: a choke hold for like five years.
Speaker 3: If we did see so many Elevens early on, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so, like I wonder if it is just
Speaker 2: the first episode. Joelle pitched me your final spot in
Speaker 2: our top five.
Speaker 3: Okay, and hear me out. We're so feminist. I love
Speaker 3: our No. One else will come up with the women
Speaker 3: some hot eyes. Anyway, Uh my pitch is the death
Speaker 3: of Barb because to me, the internet discourse was so
Speaker 3: we're talking like Twitter's booming in twenty sixteen, it's fabulous.
Speaker 3: We truly were not appreciative of what we had at
Speaker 3: the time, and Barb's death like killing off the ugly
Speaker 3: friend off like annoying, frustrating, the lack of care consideration
Speaker 3: most of the characters had for her afterwards, like it
Speaker 3: really was a point, and then the fact that we
Speaker 3: get barely like they kind of get justice for Barb
Speaker 3: in season two, but it's ish, is it?
Speaker 1: And I don't know, Yeah, I think you win.
Speaker 2: I actually think you could argue that the death of
Speaker 2: Bob is the most culturally impactful thing for a Stranger
Speaker 2: Things because actually, guess yes, who was at the Stranger
Speaker 2: Things season five premiere Shannon Purser. It was Shannon Purson
Speaker 2: aka bab Bob, who was styled by the incredible Sophie Strauss,
Speaker 2: who I love, who I feel I didn't pay this,
Speaker 2: She's just amazing, and Sophie styled her as like Daddy Bob,
Speaker 2: so it.
Speaker 1: Was incredible, hot black outfit. She looked incredible.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that's because maybe we'll get Bob in the
Speaker 2: upside down, or maybe we'll learn something more about Bob.
Speaker 2: But if not, I do also feel like it launed
Speaker 2: Shannon Purser's Korea, you know, Riverdale, specifically. Roberto Aguaya Sakasa
Speaker 2: like wrote a character in for her. Like she has
Speaker 2: become a legend in her own right kind of. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like when, yeah, when John Travolta, you know, accidentally
Speaker 2: said Idina Menzel's name was Adele Desim. She said, in
Speaker 2: a way, you know, it was kind of the best
Speaker 2: that ever happened to because suddenly everyone knew who she was.
Speaker 2: And even though they the Duffer brothers were wrong to
Speaker 2: kill Bob, Shannon is now, you know, life of the party.
Speaker 2: She was in Riverdale right till the very end. I
Speaker 2: love to see her in Riverdale makes me so happy.
Speaker 2: Wish Upon really actually just crazy haunted wish Box Slash
Speaker 2: a movie which I loved.
Speaker 1: Sarah Burgess is.
Speaker 2: A loser, like she's she's doing the stuff. We need
Speaker 2: to get her more roles. But yeah, I mean the
Speaker 2: fact that she's still there nine years later.
Speaker 1: It's like they had to bring her back like she
Speaker 1: was harm from Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 2: Justice for Barb finally and wait, Eddie Munson, Justice for Bob.
Speaker 2: Bob team up in the upside Down to save the kids.
Speaker 2: It's two fan services, but I would love.
Speaker 1: To see it.
Speaker 3: It's the final season. When are you gonna get to
Speaker 3: service again? This is it?
Speaker 1: The five of us? Yes, yeah, go for it. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say the same thing as you.
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Speaker 3: presented us with so many great new talents. Some are
Speaker 3: nipple babies, some were plucked from far Afield, some of
Speaker 3: them are older. Some of them are exquisitely talented in
Speaker 3: some beautiful gowns. What do we think exactly the future
Speaker 3: holds for the children. Let's start with our bright spots.
Speaker 3: Let's Sadie sink to the front.
Speaker 2: Please, I would say, Sadie sinc She's the only one
Speaker 2: thus far that has been at the center of a
Speaker 2: very successful Oscar winning film that we won't name because like,
Speaker 2: why do we need to?
Speaker 3: It wasn't the right to talk about it.
Speaker 1: But she is incredible. She's a fantastic actress.
Speaker 2: I think she's really coming out of this as the
Speaker 2: Christen's Seer Rob Pattinson type. She makes interesting choices, she's
Speaker 2: extremely cool. Obviously we already touched on Shannon. Are other
Speaker 2: iconic redhead from this series, Millie Bobby Brown. Look is
Speaker 2: she gonna be out here winning an Oscar? Probably not far.
Speaker 1: I think she is a really fun action heroine, and.
Speaker 2: I love for her that she now has her Netflix
Speaker 2: kind of grandfather in contract where every Soften she gets
Speaker 2: to make a really expensive movie where she is an
Speaker 2: action star in it and hopefully makes a ton of money.
Speaker 1: I love that for her. I would love to get
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: Her fronting, you know, an original sci fi franchise, something,
Speaker 2: you know, a kin to a New Terminator, maybe outside
Speaker 2: of the Netflix space that can be a bit pretty,
Speaker 2: a bit more cinematic.
Speaker 1: But I love that for her. I love that she
Speaker 1: is now married.
Speaker 2: To John Boniov's son, and she has a kid, and
Speaker 2: she has a farm. You know what, she saw it
Speaker 2: for life and she should be because the show basically
Speaker 2: ran for the first few seasons just simply off the
Speaker 2: fact that people knew eleven, loved eleven, and that they
Speaker 2: had kind of made a gene gray for a new generation.
Speaker 1: So she deserves it.
Speaker 2: What about It was interesting because Finn wolf Pod, who
Speaker 2: plays Mike, he felt like he was the front runner
Speaker 2: to be the big franchisee you was the first one out.
Speaker 3: Of the gates because he landed both it and Ghostbusters
Speaker 3: at about the same time, maybe one right after the other.
Speaker 3: And then Ghostbusters, Who What Where? Which is a magazine?
Speaker 3: Fins in it talking about stranger things, and he's got
Speaker 3: what the I'm no longer a young man, I'm a
Speaker 3: man now haircut? He is if you were around for
Speaker 3: justin Timberlake, and he went from giant ramen noodle curls
Speaker 3: to sexy, army buzz cut. You might know Finn had
Speaker 3: quite the like swoosh of hair. He was giving somewhat
Speaker 3: like the Emo boys in the early Yachts, but maybe
Speaker 3: a little more refined.
Speaker 1: And Night thirteen hot heart rob vibes too.
Speaker 2: It was curtains, but not curtains, indie band curtains.
Speaker 3: You could poutily brush that hair out of your face
Speaker 3: if you wanted to. It's got now it's gone, which
Speaker 3: says to me that his team thinks he gonna be back.
Speaker 3: He about to get another franchise or something. Give it
Speaker 3: a minute. I'd be so interested to hear what the
Speaker 3: girls his age, if he's like a heart throb for
Speaker 3: them or not, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean. I'm interested in that too.
Speaker 2: I do think that most of the Stranger Things kids
Speaker 2: are pretty like cool and have like interesting unique tastes
Speaker 2: and seem to have come out of the situation of
Speaker 2: being a child star on the first really massive smash
Speaker 2: like streaming and show from Netflix pretty well. And I
Speaker 2: think he is making interesting choices in his own creative life.
Speaker 2: He recently directed a movie called Hell of a Summer,
Speaker 2: which I thought was really fun, which is just.
Speaker 1: Like a slasher movie. He has taken kind of your
Speaker 1: summer camp slasher.
Speaker 2: Really great stuff, a great eye fun, and I think
Speaker 2: like he should do more stuff like that, like Live.
Speaker 1: It Up you did Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: I love those new Ghostbusters movies just because I love Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: But they're not necessarily you know, they're not your next
Speaker 2: critical smash like go.
Speaker 1: For something different. We've seen it. We've seen our.
Speaker 2: First Riverdale actor wrongfully snubbed by the Oscars for his
Speaker 2: incredible performance last year, and so there's a lot of
Speaker 2: different things going on here where these TV stars can
Speaker 2: translate into something bigger. But I feel like Finn needs
Speaker 2: to make a few more like interesting indie choices on
Speaker 2: his own. Yeah, and I'm excited to see where he
Speaker 2: goes with it because also he's like really tall and
Speaker 2: has funny delivery and is good at like physical body comedy,
Speaker 2: but is also good at like being serious and emotional.
Speaker 1: So there's good stuff out there. I want to see
Speaker 1: him get that great script.
Speaker 3: He's essentially a romantically at an extremely young age and
Speaker 3: carry you know, like country between him and Millie Bobby
Speaker 3: Brown is good, Like he can deliver on sort of
Speaker 3: the emotional resonance of a scene to your point comedy,
Speaker 3: which is notoriously difficult. You've got the bone structure and
Speaker 3: the foundation to be a star, Finn, if you choose,
Speaker 3: I'd be curious to see where that goes. Somebody else
Speaker 3: who has the bone structure to be a star? My
Speaker 3: a Hawk. We mentioned there would be a Neffo baby
Speaker 3: here and Listen, we don't hate neple babies. We just
Speaker 3: want everyone to have a fair shot at being able
Speaker 3: to create art and live off of it. But my
Speaker 3: Hawk extremely talented instantly.
Speaker 2: Also my knowledges is and who her parents are and
Speaker 2: how it's helped her. Yeah, I think she's amazing. She
Speaker 2: basically launched her whole music career off this, at least
Speaker 2: in a much more mainstream success way.
Speaker 1: I think she makes care choices.
Speaker 2: She's also been directing, She's been in movies with her dad.
Speaker 2: She has been taking on really interesting weird roles, which
Speaker 2: I think is a Neppo baby is basically your job
Speaker 2: because you don't need the money, you don't.
Speaker 3: Have the flexibility to do that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do I understand why a young actress would have said
Speaker 2: yes to being in season two of Stranger Things? Absolutely
Speaker 2: like you were right to do that, Maya Hawk. I
Speaker 2: am not judging you. What I'm saying now is you
Speaker 2: have the Neppo Baby family security and your own security
Speaker 2: and your own success and clown. So I'm excited to
Speaker 2: see you pursuing more interesting, intriguing things. And also Maya
Speaker 2: Hawk's recent appearance on Good Hang with Amy Poehler was
Speaker 2: just delightful. I'm I love I love Mayaw.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the two who I think should have
Speaker 3: strong careers, but we're not quite sure where that's gonna
Speaker 3: end up. And that's Caleb McLaughlin who plays Lucas Sinclair
Speaker 3: and get In Mata zero Is I'm saying that right, Yes,
Speaker 3: got In Matazerio who play Doesn't Henderson and Stranger Things.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Both of these boys are adorable. I've loved them on
Speaker 3: Stranger Things. I've loved them in projects outside of Stranger Things. Again,
Speaker 3: these are kids who understand comedy and timing. They can
Speaker 3: do they can do the drama. Lucas crying over Max.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I'm in tears. Literally, anything Dustin does, I
Speaker 3: will lay my body down. I just need Dustin to
Speaker 3: be protected at all costs. I need Lucas and Max
Speaker 3: to get out. Okay, I need my babies to be
Speaker 3: all right. I also like them to be all right
Speaker 3: in the real world. I think they have, uh the
Speaker 3: capacity for such greatness.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: What do you what would you like to see them
Speaker 3: do when their care is like, what roles do you
Speaker 3: think they should be taking out a finn? These would
Speaker 3: be doing uh, some kind of like edgyar work, and
Speaker 3: we're encouraging Maya to do the weird work. What kind
Speaker 3: of work do these guys be looking for?
Speaker 2: I think like they're still young, you know. I think
Speaker 2: Gates and he's done a really good job. He's become
Speaker 2: like kind of a prankster. He had his own prank show.
Speaker 2: I think like leaning into what people expec from Dustin.
Speaker 2: Caleb was actually in a movie you can watch on
Speaker 2: Peacock that is like it's a sports drama about Lebron
Speaker 2: James's life and it was produced by Lebron James. And
Speaker 2: he plays Drew Joyce, the third like one of the
Speaker 2: three besties basically who grew up around Lebron. And yeah,
Speaker 2: really really interesting stuff. I think he's making good choices.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's getting as many options or calls.
Speaker 2: And I think the same thing as said for Gayton,
Speaker 2: who by the way, is also like physically visibly disabled.
Speaker 1: And so like, I think there is an interesting thing here.
Speaker 2: But Caleb's been booking those jobs and he's had some
Speaker 2: really interesting ones.
Speaker 1: Book of Clarence, The Deliverance.
Speaker 2: He's got a basketball comedy coming out from Sony that's
Speaker 2: called goat.
Speaker 1: And I mean that to me, I'm like, if you
Speaker 1: can do an animated.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good and it's.
Speaker 1: Columbia, but it's animated by Sony Pictures Animation. So and
Speaker 1: Caleb is the lead in that.
Speaker 2: So I'm really hoping. I'm hoping that that can be
Speaker 2: a big launch.
Speaker 1: FIM, A nice little.
Speaker 3: Animation is not really in your faith. And I will say,
Speaker 3: stranger things. Whoever did these posts? Well, really, whoever styled
Speaker 3: his hair jail? He has no hairline?
Speaker 2: Say how is it the same in the two lost
Speaker 2: two seasons too? Like they didn't fix it off the
Speaker 2: last season. Everyone was telling you it didn't look good
Speaker 2: last season.
Speaker 3: Guys is so and so talented. He does not deserve
Speaker 3: the disrespect of this awful hairline. H But I do
Speaker 3: hope you know it's some like interesting live action roles.
Speaker 3: I would like to see Caleb in like a Will
Speaker 3: Smith ESK role. You know what I mean? IV is
Speaker 3: the ability to be that level of charming that like
Speaker 3: and let me please clarify early Will Smith role Allah
Speaker 3: your independence days, Okay, Men in Black? Men in Black?
Speaker 2: Caleb would be so great in like a charming buddy comedy.
Speaker 2: But like in a genre space.
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely so good. I mean maybe someone should because
Speaker 1: that would actually like.
Speaker 3: Love Gates to go the sitcom route, not because I
Speaker 3: don't think you have movie star potential, but just because
Speaker 3: I think in the same way that like a Max
Speaker 3: Greenfield could do film, but like you just resonates funny
Speaker 3: on TV. He's so funny. Actually, that's my pitch. Gates
Speaker 3: needs to get with Greenfield. Like if the two of
Speaker 3: them come together, Uh, make it a father's son, a nephew, uncle,
Speaker 3: a brothers with a very large age gap, some kind
Speaker 3: of situation like that where they're playing off each other
Speaker 3: and they get to be funny. I think the two
Speaker 3: of them would have people in tears. But then again,
Speaker 3: both of them have all of that heart and love
Speaker 3: that resonates. You know, if you've seen Max and New Girl,
Speaker 3: he plays Schmidt who's in love with Cec and you
Speaker 3: get to see all of his shenanigans and it's so great,
Speaker 3: And imagine like a Schmidt with a Dustin Schmidt.
Speaker 1: And Dustin Yeah, that would be great. I love that
Speaker 1: idea in Max.
Speaker 3: I've done it. You're welcome, TV. You can have that
Speaker 3: one for free. Just make it for me.
Speaker 1: I just would watch it retract, it retract.
Speaker 3: I need to be at least in the writer's room, please,
Speaker 3: at least so we've talked about all of the children
Speaker 3: who might go forth and conquer. Uh. Wait, Steve, Steve
Speaker 3: up to you.
Speaker 1: I can do him. I can do him quickly. Steve
Speaker 1: has actually been doing it.
Speaker 2: He it's to me no surprise, I think because of
Speaker 2: the way that he managed to transform this role and
Speaker 2: turn it into an ongoing role with this kind of.
Speaker 1: Bully to babysitter vibe, which is so great.
Speaker 2: Uh. He has actually taken on some really interesting roles.
Speaker 2: He was in this movie that I loved. I watched
Speaker 2: it for nadists ended up not like they said, hey,
Speaker 2: watch this movie, you can interview.
Speaker 1: Him, and ended up I think like we didn't get
Speaker 1: the interview. But it was called Spree. It's so good.
Speaker 2: He's basically like a psycho spree killer in an uber
Speaker 2: who is.
Speaker 1: Killing people live to get followers.
Speaker 2: But then he is taken down by SNL ex cast
Speaker 2: member Sasha's the Marta, who is so good and she's
Speaker 2: so funny and she is a stand up.
Speaker 3: In the Hurt and Agatha, She's so good.
Speaker 1: She's amazing.
Speaker 2: In Agatha and I just thought this movie was really cool,
Speaker 2: really unique. It's not your classic slasher, but it's also
Speaker 2: kind of this idea of followers and fans.
Speaker 1: It's really strange. So he's been doing that.
Speaker 2: But I would say his biggest thing, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: he's a pretty successful music artist now, and that has
Speaker 2: been the real thing that he has been doing.
Speaker 1: The stranger things. I know, he's really been living it up.
Speaker 1: Like good for that man, Joe Aery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really yet, like, uh, Joe's kind of got
Speaker 3: this the word I'm looking for. I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3: But he's he's just naturally like I he felt like
Speaker 3: a star coming on. I'll put it that way, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. And I don't mean the superstar
Speaker 3: shut everything downwigh. I mean in the this man will
Speaker 3: never stop working that he will always be hired. He
Speaker 3: is so consistent good. It feels just like second nature
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 1: Just makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you kind of just want him in things.
Speaker 3: There's a reliability and he's giving Uh who's do the please? Nick?
Speaker 3: And New Girls? Sorry, probably New Girl references if you're
Speaker 3: not a New Girl fan, but oh.
Speaker 2: Not the world's most not the world's most beloved boy
Speaker 2: next door.
Speaker 1: Peter B. Parker, he sure is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gives that kind of hate, that and liability
Speaker 3: to him that you're like, yeah, I want.
Speaker 2: To cast him in your Stranger Things reunion sitcom that
Speaker 2: you're obviously now pitching.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's coming together, but yeah, the world. Sorry, guys, sorry,
Speaker 1: have you got enough of those? Do you need another one?
Speaker 2: Dj O time, he's his that's his Instagram is his
Speaker 2: music goes by d j O.
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys. If it's just Joe or something, I'm not cool.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's got two boy four million followers. I see him
Speaker 2: doing a lot of shows. A lot of people I
Speaker 2: know go to his shows, So I love that for him,
Speaker 2: and I think he could also just keep doing cool stuff.
Speaker 2: He he was in Fargo, he was really fun and
Speaker 2: free guy. I'm just excited to see him do more.
Speaker 2: I really do Recommencepree a lot. It's pretty out there.
Speaker 2: If you don't like a scary kind of like murderous
Speaker 2: horror movie, you might not enjoy it. But I thought
Speaker 2: it was really interesting. Take I've been hearing there has
Speaker 2: allegedly Okay, we don't wet there is allegedly a rumor
Speaker 2: that he is playing Harry Osborne in Brand New Day
Speaker 2: that came out in the summer. Allegedly that's what he's
Speaker 2: working on. People didn't really felt about. I think it's fantastic, possible.
Speaker 3: People aren't sure, get sure, get rid? I telling you,
Speaker 3: let me assure you. But you know, I actually let.
Speaker 1: Me, he said, be assured.
Speaker 3: This is who you want because what he can do
Speaker 3: so well, you've seen him with as babysitter, so he
Speaker 3: could do this. Oh I'm so worried about you, Peter,
Speaker 3: like you're my best friend. But also he can do
Speaker 3: If I disappoint my dad, I won't exist as a
Speaker 3: person and I'll be crushed. And so now I will
Speaker 3: make the choice I know is wrong because I just
Speaker 3: he is gonna nail that. I really hope it's true.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, joke, right, Joe, Come.
Speaker 1: On, But yes, this was so fun. Thanks for joining
Speaker 1: us for our.
Speaker 2: Little water cooler chat about the history of Strange Things
Speaker 2: and some of our favorite moments.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. The new series is coming out soon.
Speaker 3: Guys, Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker 2: Episode drops Thanksgiving weekend, and the rest will be released
Speaker 2: in three volumes, I believe, so.
Speaker 3: Check out the recap that Rosie and Jason do. It's
Speaker 3: coming out next week. It's really, really funny, it's full.
Speaker 3: If you haven't seen it, you're gonna feel so caught up.
Speaker 3: You won't need to watch twenty seven thousand hours of
Speaker 3: television in order to enjoy it. This season, final season.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's our show, guys, amazing, Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for listening, and we'll see guys soon. Bye bye.
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