1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the favorites from the Volume podcast network. I 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: am Chad Mollminuted is Tuesday, July six, which means the 3 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: NBA Finals are starting tonight, the Phoenix Suns hosting the 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. We are going to discuss the NBA Finals 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: with one of our guests, Raheem Palmer later in the show. 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: We are also not even eighty days away from NFL 7 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: season beginning, which means there are so many wind total 8 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: opportunities on the betting boards. Raheem is going to discuss 9 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: that as well because he is an NFL expert. But first, 10 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: let me welcome the most expert of NFL experts, the 11 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: man who drives the bus on wind totals, the man 12 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: who wins in totality every year, My bff, my compadre, 13 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: my companion, Simon Hunter. Tell people where you are, Simon Hunter. Yeah, 14 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: you're just the best light man. I wish I literally 15 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: have you just followed me around. I don't even have 16 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: to introduce myself to people. The way I would follow 17 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: me around, I would have no problem with quitting everything 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: I've got and just following you wherever you've got. So 19 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: we'll see if I can give the people of view. 20 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: I am at a house that's pretty dope at Lake Tahoe. 21 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I've never been here before. It's my boss's place, not 22 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Chad's place. I have another boss, boss Bob talked to Chad. 23 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: I'd interview people for runners, which is like the lazy 24 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: man's way of making bets. You you pretty much pay 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: people to go to casinos and make bets for you, 26 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: either because you can't make bets yourself in person, or 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: you just don't have the time to go all the 28 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: different casinos. So I am here interviewing people right now, 29 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: and it's a it was. I thought it was gonna 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: be hard, but it's actually been a really nice little 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: break in a vacation from regular life. How does that work? 32 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Explain what the interview process for that is? Like, Um, 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: it's tough to say because people everyone's different. Um, Like 34 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: the one guy who already knew I was gonna hire, 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: he was basically already my minion. So he's he's probably 36 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: like forty three, and he's been working with us for 37 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: about five years and he's really into it. So like 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: he did a lot of my draft prep for me, 39 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Like I mainly focused on the quarterbacks, and he was 40 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: doing a lot of the other stuff for me. It's 41 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: already had um a relationship with him, and like I'm 42 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: basically just paying him extra to come move out to 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: Jersey for um, Like he'll come. He'll probably like arrive 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: August twenty and he'll leave the middle of February, like 45 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: after the super Bowl. So I'm asking a guy a 46 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: lot to leave Vegas to move out to Jersey. But 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: he's cool with it, like he's into it. So he's 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: coming out. And then I have another guy who I'm 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: interviewed from Reno and he's young, he's hungry, and I 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: basically I do have like a weird process, like I'll um, 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll do the criminal history stuff, like I don't care 52 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: if they get called smoking weed or whatever. I don't 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: care about that stuff. It's more like criminal stuff like, um, 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: you know it's a rob people blah blah blah. So 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: I'll do I'll make a call either their parents or 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: a sibling without telling them that I'm in the room. 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I'll make them put them on speaker, and I'll give 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: him a list of questions to ask that person without 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: knowing that I'm in the room. And then I'll have 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: them call their best friend and do the same exact thing, 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: and it's been great. Man. You just get the realist, honest, 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: most true answers from these people, because um, people love 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: to talk about relationships. You'd be shocked if you call 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: people and go, hey, can you just say like, what 65 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: do you think our best story is? And the people 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: just start talking, don't even ask why, They'll just be 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, and I'll just start talking. So I I 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: I've stolen that from other guys and it's been great. 69 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Like I've met both the minions I have working for 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: me that Vegas, I did the same thing with them. Now, 71 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the one guy that's coming, I didn't really have the interview. 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: I just had to ask him like if you wanted 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: to come, And the other guy did it too. His 74 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: mom was really funny and she basically just saying, now, 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: he's like the most loyal dude ever, Like he would 76 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: die for anything the people that cares about. And that's 77 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: what I want. Because I'm giving this due to duffel bag. 78 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: Maybe sometimes a fifty dollars. I need something I know 79 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: that's loyal, and I have his mom's addressed now, so 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: this kid's not gonna disappear with my money because he 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that to his mom. So it's definitely a 82 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: little weird, but that's how the processes you have to 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: interview these people. So when you give this list of questions, 84 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: the guy he calls up say his mom and says, Mom, 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: have I ever been arrested? How do you get them 86 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: to that? And be like, Mom, have I ever stolen 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: money from you? You and dad have ever robbed people? 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: Have I ever? Have I ever done something that like 89 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: embarrassing so much you want to disown me or kick 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: me out of the house. Like there's a there's a 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: bunch of weird little things and like little stupid things 92 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: like me and you talked about love. I think love 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: is an important thing. I don't really trust people if 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: they've never had a relationship before. So that's another one 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I have them ask, go, Mom, I've ever been in 96 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: love and things like that, right, very like you know 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: it sounds stupid, but honestly, I think you really do it. 98 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: Really you get a really good perspective. Instead of me 99 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: asking these people these questions because people, especially gamblers, they're 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: such bullshitters and I can't stand it. So I'm like, no, 101 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm cutting out to the middle man, let's just call 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: your mom right now, because they don't know what's coming. 103 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: So they're shocked and they're they're calling their mom all 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden in their job interviews. So it works man, 105 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: especially you just want to make the person uncomfortable because 106 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: you learn a lot about people when they're uncomfortable. What 107 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: have you asked? This is outstanding? What if asked when 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: and you've heard an answer where the person was was 109 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they were something was being revealed 110 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: that disqualified them for the job. Oh my god, dude, 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I have so many. I mean, the easiest one ever 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: was this dude stole all of his dad's power tools 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: and sold them so he could go like make some 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: bets when he was like eighteen or nineteen, and I 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: get it, it was like five years later maturities like that. 116 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: But I was like, dude that I I cannot, like, 117 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I cannot trust you. How do I know you're not 118 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: going a losing streak with your own money? And then 119 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: take my money and disappear. So that guy was I mean, 120 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: that was a two minute interview. That guy was done, 121 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Like he didn't order water to the table. He was gone. 122 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: So there there's something like that, they're just quick. Or 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: a guy will sit down, I'll look him I do 124 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: not like. I will look at up someone I said, 125 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: I do not like your face, like either I met 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: them in a past life. I don't know what. I'll 127 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: ask them what their sign is. Who knows, But I'll 128 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: just look at and be like, Okay, I mean this, dude, 129 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 1: this ain't gonna work. But a lot of these guys 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: are in the business. So even if I don't know them, 131 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: they worked with a different group, maybe they were a 132 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: runner for some other pro that I know, and they'll 133 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: put them onto me, which is always the best because 134 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: you just want some of that someone can valuage for 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: because in this business is just purely relationship business. By 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: the way, you're You're so right about that first instinct 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: and knowing or not knowing and getting it from the 138 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: tone of voice, from what their experience has been. Uh. 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: You and I had it the day that you reached 140 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: out to me on Twitter and I randomly called back Raheem, 141 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: who's on the call with us, you know, who joined 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: Action as a freelance writer and was doing incredible work. 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: And then it took us about two seconds to realize 144 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: that we wanted to hire him. Raheem, if I gave 145 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: you a list of questions to call your parents right now, uh, 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: would you be able to be hired by Simon Hunter 147 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: as a runner? Oh? Not at all at all. I mean, 148 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I've made so many mistakes in my life, so it's 149 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: just like I'm matured. But I've made a lot of mistakes, 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: so not at all that. By the way, you guys 151 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: don't live too far from each other. You guys can 152 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: get together on Sundays, you know, Yeah, as you I 153 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: might need a runner myself so we can get talk off. 154 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: You can figure that out for sure, man, I get it. Yeah, Well, 155 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad I can bring you guys together, all right, 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Raheem before we get to to uh a f C 157 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: win totals, and I do want to get to that. 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Like I said Sons hosting the Box, I have so 159 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: many opinions about this series just from a narrative point 160 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: of view. So excited for Chris Paul. I want him 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: to win an NBA title. I think he deserves it. 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: Um such a great leader on the floor, always improving 163 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: his teams. Give me your sense of the narrative of 164 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: the sons in the Bucks. First, okay, I mean first 165 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: things first, Chris Paul. I mean, it's just one of 166 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: the greatest point guards of all time. He's finally getting 167 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity. And I think it's it's ironic because you know, 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has really struggled the state stay healthy in 169 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but now everybody else is injured and he's healthy, 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: So I think he has a really you know, good 171 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to not only win the finals, but when finals MVP. 172 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Because one of the things that you got to look 173 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: at is that the Bucks play a lot of drop coverage. 174 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: So if their drop coverage, that means he's gonna be 175 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: getting these mid range jump shots with Lopez dropping into 176 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: the lane, and I think it's wide open for him. 177 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see it. All right, So before 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: we get to m v P, because we do have 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: breaking news from the Action Network news desk from our 180 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: own Brandon Anderson, Action Network NBA contributor, frequent contributor to 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the Action Network NBA podcast with You and Matt Moore. 182 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: He's been amazing on NBA Player props all season long. 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: You guys go deep into season long m v p 184 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: ods do it better than anybody. He has decided that 185 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Jay Crowder at a hundred and fifty two one, might 186 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: be the best MVP bet in the finals. How do 187 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: you feel about that? I think Brandon is absolutely batshit insane. 188 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Just you know, I feel like I love Brandon to death, 189 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: but I feel like he was sent here to destroy 190 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: me and destroy my brain. We're polar I passes. I 191 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: was telling Matt Mitchell before this call, He's essentially Steph 192 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: Curry and I'm eating Rosazuki. I just want to get 193 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: on base. Just give me the easy hits. Let me 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: get on base, hit as many singles as much as possible. 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: He wants to pull up from forty five ft and 196 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: I just I can't do it. But I think his 197 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: logic is sound. His logic is sounded. Is because if 198 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: you look at the two thousand thirteen NBA Finals, Danny 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Green hit a ton of three pointers and he was 200 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: on the path to actually when an m v P 201 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: had the spurs actually got it done, and Ray Island 202 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: doesn't hit the shot. So Jay Crowder has been known 203 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: to get hot. He's gonna get open three. So if 204 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: he hits four threes tonight, he hits five threes in 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: game two, Game four, and then when Yannice comes back, 206 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: he's gonna be the primary defender of your honest. So 207 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: at plus one one, it's a good lottery ticket, Like, 208 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. And then with some of 209 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: these sites giving you the opportunity to cash out, he 210 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: could go, he can get hot in games one and 211 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: two and you can cash it out and make a profit. 212 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: It does feel interesting, um, how everyone is so sure 213 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: about the Sun's sons and four. That's one of the 214 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: highest pet props right now. And the bookmakers, if they 215 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: really took it serious, the sons would be minus three hundred. 216 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: You're even higher at this point, and they're not. They're 217 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: not even minus two hundred. They've come down a little bit. 218 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: So it's been very interesting watching the line movement that 219 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the public has been coming in heavy on the Suns, 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: and the pros have kind of just been not taking 221 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: the bucks, but they've been they've been putting down a 222 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: little money on testing the water because we're still we're 223 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: still so unsure about Honest. Have you have you thought 224 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: and at all that Jane is gonna come back in 225 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: the series. Do you think it's just all smoke screen 226 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: that they're saying he might be coming back. I do 227 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: think he's gonna come back for a game the Rae. 228 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: But I think the thing with Jannice is, if you 229 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: look at his game, he's not a guy who's gonna 230 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: hit mid range jumpers. He's not a guy who hit threes. 231 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: He's dependent on driving to the lane. So if you 232 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: get j honest, this could actually hurt them more than 233 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: it could help them, because you have a guy who 234 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: is depended on driving to the lane. Like this is 235 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be the Yannest that we saw two weeks ago. 236 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna be sixty sevent and I don't know if 237 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: I want that. So if Yannest comes back, I'd be 238 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: leaning more towards the Sons. Actually, all right, So give 239 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: me your take right now or here before we get 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: to a FC win totals on the series. What are 241 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: you betting? How are you strategically thinking about it? Game 242 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: to game? Okay, game the game. I like the under tonight. 243 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the Suns Chris Paul, 244 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: he plays one of the slowest paces in the lad 245 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: You saw that when he was out for games one 246 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: and two in the Western Conference Finals. When he's on 247 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: the court, the Sons are only playing ninety six possessions, 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: so they're really slow pay game. That's eleven and pace 249 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: among all six team playoff teams. So my model actually 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: makes this game to seven team. So with it being 251 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: up to to nineteam, I really like the under. The 252 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: Bucks offense has really been struggling. I mean, they're a 253 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: team that's you know, when Janice is not out there, 254 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: they're highly depended on jump shooting. And this Bucks team, 255 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: if we saw over the last two three seasons, they 256 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: can get into the playoffs and start missing these jump shots. 257 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 1: So and they're they're primarily winning with their defense. So 258 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a rock fight tonight. So 259 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: I really like the under. Personally, I like the Sons 260 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: just because I think they just have too many They 261 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: don't They're like the Spurs. They're not gonna beat themselves. 262 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: You know, you have to go out there and beat them, 263 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: like this is not a team, Like this team hasn't 264 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: lost three in a row all season long, you know, 265 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: so this team they recover from losses. They're great offensively, 266 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: great defensively. I think the Suns eventually get it done 267 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: it's a little steamed up now at minus two minus 268 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: one ninety, but based on the fact that there's six 269 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: point favorites in game one and Janice has hurt, I 270 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: think there's some value on it still. Alright, So I'm 271 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: coming out of here, and I'm thinking, at the very least, 272 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: if I'm thinking from a long term point of view, 273 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: I'm betting Chris Paul m v P. I'm betting Jay 274 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Crowder m v P. I'm betting Sons minus two hundred 275 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: to win the series, and then I can play with 276 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: it a little bit. Let's say they get down, maybe 277 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: they lose the first game, maybe there's still some value 278 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: to be had going forward. So that's that's what I'm 279 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: thinking about. That's how I'm gonna do it. Yeah, Yeah, 280 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, I think the one thing 281 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: you have to worry about, you do have to worry 282 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: about Devin Booker, because if Milwaukee decides to put Drew 283 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Holiday on Chris Paul, then they're just gonna say, hey, look, 284 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: Devin Booker, you gotta beat us. And that's possible. So 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: I think there is some concern in that aspect, But 286 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I think Chris Paul has the narrative behind them, and 287 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: we all know that. You know, m v Voting for 288 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: m v P is based on narratives, a hundred percent 289 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: narrative based. Which is why I would actually like Paul 290 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: and Crowder over Booker. Because Booker as the primary score 291 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: for the Suns. He's gonna have to go above and 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: beyond to win m VP. He can't just do game 293 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: and get MVP because that's what the expectation is. He's 294 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to go out and have a couple of 295 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: games where he flourishes to a degree that is way, way, 296 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: way beyond expectations. Whereas Crowder is going to be that 297 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: guy who if he is the defensive stopper and he 298 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: does get some threes, he's he's got like an Iguadala 299 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: andre Iguadala field from that first Warriors um uh finals 300 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: against the Calves where he won m v P. So 301 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: that's why I kind of like it. That's my thing. 302 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: I like it too. I mean, even though I think 303 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: Brandon is crazy, I like it my side, all right, 304 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: Simon raheem, nothing matters more than the NFL. So let's 305 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: talk a f C win totals. This is what we're 306 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: gonna be doing over the next few weeks, just so 307 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: people know on the pod, we're gonna do uh a 308 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: f C win totals. Then we're gonna do NFC win 309 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: totals next week. We've got a whole lineup that Matt 310 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: Mitchell has concocted here to make sure everyone gets smarter 311 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: and can start getting down their best before the season begins. 312 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: Look right off the bat, you've got four teams in 313 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: the a f C that have wind totals that are 314 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: set at double digits. Chiefs at twelve, Ravens at eleven, 315 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Bills at ten and a half, Colts at ten, Simon. 316 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Before we get to all right, who do you like 317 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: the most? I do want to talk about these are 318 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: the teams that will get the most attention. Give me 319 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: your take on Chiefs, Ravens, Bills, Cults. Sure we can 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: start with the Bills because of man Mitchell. Of course, 321 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: the Bills make me wow. Your hands off, bro yo, Hey, 322 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: come on now, I'm making it happen. Now. This is 323 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: one of these things where if you want to know 324 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: if you're listening to a smart podcast or if you 325 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: think these people are frauds, the frauds of all the 326 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: frauds will tell you to take the Bills over ten 327 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: and a half. To me, one of the easiest things 328 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: to stare at and say, okay, red flags all over 329 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: the place, ten a half bills. We're talking about a 330 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: seventeen games schedule. Who doesn't think the Bills are gonna 331 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 1: get eleven wins this year? Everyone does. Everyone looks at 332 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: that Bill's team, they say, that's an easy bet ten 333 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: and a half, especially in the seventeen games, you know, like, 334 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you bet that? So every show you're gonna 335 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: listen to everyone. I'm telling you, they're gonna tell you 336 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: to take the over ten and a half. Easiest bet 337 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: looking at this under a ten and a half for 338 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the Bills. And it's not like last year. Josh Allen 339 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: amazing quarterback. Last year he played out of his mind. 340 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: It just doesn't work this way, and people don't get that. 341 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: People think every here it's easy. It's just not. It's 342 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: just one of these things where all these teams have 343 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: now had a whole offseason to why all the film 344 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: on Josh Allen, They get to study that exact offense 345 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: the Bills ran last year. They're gonna run the same 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: exact offense this year too. They don't lose anybody. So 347 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: this is one of those where it's just stinks of 348 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: a trap. Everything about this bill's number is a trap 349 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: to me. I graded him out at ten point two, 350 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: and I saw it was ten a half. I go, 351 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: oh my god, they're gonna get so much money on 352 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: this over. I can't wait to come August how much 353 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: money these bookmakers say they have on this over. If 354 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: I guarantee, it's gona so easy, easy bet people, please 355 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: take that bills under. Oh my god, I have so 356 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: many notes to make right now. I gotta get the 357 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: bills under, even though I already got him on a 358 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: super Bowl future. So do I that that that doesn't 359 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: take away from it. We're just talking about like pure 360 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: value based bets here, all right, uh raheem. Before Simon 361 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: finishes with the other three, do you do you have thoughts? Actually, 362 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Simon On, Chiefs over under, Ravens over under, or Cults 363 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: over under the I'm boring I stay away from the 364 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: its like I'm staying away because like the Chiefs, I 365 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: don't wanna bet that under, like I want to bet 366 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: the over. I have him great as the over, but 367 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really feel like having money 368 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: tied up in such a high number like that with 369 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: them on that over and the Ravens. I've looked long 370 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: and hard at it because I really liked them to 371 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: bounce back this year. They just they were the bad 372 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: luck team. It felt like last year they had the injuries. 373 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Lamar got Covid. He just wasn't right. I'm coming back 374 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: from it because again, covid affects your lungs and your body. 375 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: So he's the guy that depends on his lungs and 376 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: his body for his style play. So to me, that 377 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: was just one of those where I leaned the Chiefs over, 378 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: I lean the I lean Baltimore over. And for the Colds, 379 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: people already gonna know I'm I'm all in on the Colds. 380 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: I bet them at ten. I bet them at nine 381 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: and a half. I know their schedule is really hard, 382 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: but I just look at a team that had the 383 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: corpse we call Philip Rivers leading them in the playoffs, 384 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: and he made things happen even though he was not 385 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: a good quarterback last year. If Carson Wentz can just 386 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: figure it out, like he he's soft, I'm not gonna 387 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: lie that man is soft. He let a rookie come 388 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: in and take his job. That is a soft man. 389 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: But it Carson should bounce back. He's he's surrounded by 390 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: just people that weren't good from Like Frank, Frank is 391 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: a great guy to have coaching. So for me, everything 392 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: lines up right. I just really like everything that's happening 393 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: for the Colts so too. That's that's a no brainer 394 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: to me. Take that over with the Colts. Alright, raheem, 395 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: what is your take on Chiefs twelve, Ravens eleven, Bills 396 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: ten and a half, Colts ten. Okay, first things first, 397 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: I like the Colts. I like the Coats big. I 398 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: mean you can take I think it's that it's at 399 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: ten um juice that positively at plus one fifteen, or 400 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you can get it minus um. You can get it 401 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: nine and a half minus one fifty. I think I 402 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: would rather take the ten. I think this is a 403 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: reclamation project for the Colts with Carson Wentz. But Frank 404 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: Wright has a history with Carson Wentz, like Carson Wentz 405 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: had his best season with the Eagles. And then also, 406 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: I think one of the things you gotta look at 407 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: is that Frank White, right, might as well be the quarterbacks. 408 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he took Jacoby Brissette to seven and nine 409 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: and they almost made the playoffs. Like he took uh 410 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: Larry Holmes status Um Philip Rivers at the end of 411 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: his career and they almost beat the Bills in the 412 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: first round, and they probably should have won that game. 413 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: So I have trust in the Coats. I like their 414 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: over and he won the Super Bowl nick Foles. Nick 415 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Foles won the Super Bowl with Um. When it comes 416 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: to what were the other teams, we said Bills and Ravens. 417 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: I agree with the would I agree with Simon on 418 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the Bills because and part of it has to do 419 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: with the division, because when you look at the Patriots, 420 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: they spent almost two hundred million in free agency. They're 421 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a much better team. And they struggled last 422 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: year because they had so many losses due to COVID 423 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: opt outs. Now they've they've upgraded both sides of the ball. 424 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be better. I think the Jets 425 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: are gonna be better with Robert Sala So I think 426 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the division is so much better that 427 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: the Bills take a hit here. So I'm going under 428 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: on them. I actually just agree on the Ravens. I 429 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: just for me. I just Lamar has just played outstanding 430 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: for like to two years in a row. I think 431 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: the Browns are the team to beat in that division. 432 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I think the Bangles are gonna be a little bit better. 433 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: And I just think that the wind told us a 434 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: little bit too high. Like I know, they've had some 435 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: problems with the offensive line. They've never really replaced anybody 436 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: since Marshall Yonda. So I'm gonna go under on them 437 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and then the Chiefs. See. I struggle with this because 438 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: I like to bet against human achievement. So when I 439 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: see a win total of twelve, I'm kind of looking under. 440 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: And you know, they have they have a lot of 441 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: pieces on the offense, but they never It's like they 442 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: have Tyreek Hill, they have they have Kelsey, but who 443 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: else do they have other than them? And these guys 444 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: have been healthy for so long that I'm kind of 445 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: leading under. But I think I'm i'm a i'm a 446 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: i'm a i'm a past there. I have no real 447 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: opinion on that. What do you think interest you said, 448 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: because I've heard a lot of people say that is 449 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: if Sammy Watkins was good for the last five years, 450 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: so it's like, Okay, who they have other than Travis 451 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Kelsey and all these other years. I get it like 452 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: they have they're depending on new, fast, young guys. But 453 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not worried at all about that. But like I'm 454 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: with him, it's just not fun to bet on such 455 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: a big number over. It's as a professional, no one 456 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: wants to bet over of a twelve. It's just a 457 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: weird thing to bet. I'm concerned that Raheem likes to 458 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: bet against human achievement because because it completely flies in 459 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: the face of my personal philosophy on life, which is 460 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: to be optimistic and root for the positive. I mean, 461 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic too, but when it comes to making money 462 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: that we all know that the public likes to bet 463 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: on overs. So that's where the value is, is betting 464 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: against that human achievement. All right, that's fine, that's fine 465 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: if you want to make money instead of you know, 466 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: live in a rose colored world. Totally totally fine. Alright, Simon, 467 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: let me go to you next. We got rid of 468 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: sort of the Big four, the double digit totals. We 469 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: are now looking at anybody who's nine and a half 470 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: and under. That includes the Browns, the Titans. I think 471 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: got moved up a little bit in some places to ten, 472 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: but not everywhere. Um, I see the Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots 473 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: at nine. When you're thinking about this sort of under 474 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: double digit tier, give me your best over and your 475 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: best under, and I think this is where allow of 476 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: the value is going to be this year. Because of 477 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: the seventeen game schedule. The bookmakers, just like me, I've 478 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: had a hard time making allow these win totals because 479 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: it's just throwing a wrench into everything. Instead of ten 480 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: and six, you have eleven and six or whatever, nine 481 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: and eight or whatever the number is gonna be. It's 482 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: just weird. It's it's especially weird for me to look 483 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: at on paper. I literally haven't gotten over it yet. 484 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: But with all those teams you just named, like Raheem 485 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: was saying, people love taking the overs, and there's so 486 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: many teams whore I look at it, I go, that's 487 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: such a trap. Like some of these, some of these 488 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: I just feel like such traps. But I feel like 489 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: the easiest bet. And I'm gonna keep saying it. The 490 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: whole year is just gonna be a Houston under. I 491 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: know it's a really low total, but four and a half. 492 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't care like keep going down lower and lower. 493 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: That team is truly one of the worst teams I've 494 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: ever seen on paper. Like I I cannot wait to 495 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: bet against them. It's just like last year where the 496 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Jets were losing by twenty points to start the year. 497 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: That's gonna be our gold and Goose start the year. Chat. 498 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna fade Houston so hard, and then we're gonna 499 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: ride them for the final eight weeks of the year. 500 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be such a love here relationship with them. 501 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: But they're gonna be one of those teams that there's 502 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: been multiple weeks. They're gonna be twenty point underdogs. I 503 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: truly believe this is one of the worst teams will 504 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: ever see take a football field. I am so forward 505 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: to being sick to my stomach betting on Houston Texas 506 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: week after week after week after week. It is go 507 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: in to defy logic. It is going to be exactly 508 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do as a professional better and 509 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: I am going to hate every single second of it. 510 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Let me just make sure I have the right number 511 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: for the Texans. They are the They are under four 512 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: and a half, which is the lowest win total posted 513 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: for any team, just beneath the Lions at five. Alright, 514 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: so is that, like Simon, would you say that is 515 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: your favorite? That is your favorite total to bet on? Yeah, 516 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: because I think I think the NFL has just changed 517 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: so much where these teams really are taking We saw 518 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Jacks last year. They really did tank, 519 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: and the bookmakers are trying to They're trying to make 520 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: it not so low that the sharp's come in. So 521 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: have you on the over? Because again, it's football, weird 522 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: things can happen, you never know. But to me, this 523 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: is just you literally everything I look at it, this team, 524 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: from the coaching, the front office, to the players They've 525 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: just added this off season. The worst team I've ever 526 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: seen on favor. Even if Watson comes back, I still 527 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: would take this under. So yeah, this is one of 528 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: these opportunities where I don't even have them any any 529 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: time I've stimulated their season, They've never crossed three wins. 530 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: So I think you're getting a ton of value your 531 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: bet in this under. What do you think of that? 532 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: I agree with him. I mean, I just don't have 533 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: much respect for the Houston team. So I'm I'm there, 534 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: all right, so then give me if if that's like 535 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: your best bet and it happens to be an under raheem, 536 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: well go ahead, Simon, what are you gonna say? No, No, 537 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: I was saying, yeah, that's my favorite under beet for sure. 538 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite over bet? Yeah, that's NFC 539 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: for a f C. I guess I got We talked 540 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: um what was it last week or two weeks ago? 541 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: And uh, I think it was Sean. I forget who was, 542 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: but they're saying they loved the Chargers over I'm with them. 543 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's gonna be such a fun 544 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: team to bet this year. I know the division is 545 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: really tough, and you can say what you want about 546 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: them having all new offense coming in there, but everything 547 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: I've just seen from their defense being healthy next year 548 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: and their offense having all those weapons, if bactive upgrade 549 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: the offensive line, I just cannot see them going I 550 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: think the toll is up to nine or maybe Taitan 551 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: have still I just can't see them going under the Yeah, 552 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: I can't see them going under that. I just think 553 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers have so much talent there this year. That's 554 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: a ten wing team. So for my favorite over in 555 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: the FC, I love the Chargers. Raheem. This is a 556 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: good question for you, if I may say so myself. Yeah, 557 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: when you like, we're pegging teams like the Texans, we're 558 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: pegging teams like the Chargers. When you before the season begins, 559 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: have modeled what you think is an advantage for one 560 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: team and it's not working, or you've modeled a disadvantage 561 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: for a team and it is working, meaning the team 562 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: is playing better than you expected, the team is playing 563 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: worse than you expected. How long but for you make 564 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: the adjustment and just admit that what you were modeling 565 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: was wrong a couple of weeks. So I mean, I 566 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: think they're I think the see for me, the first 567 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in the NFL season are kind of 568 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: like the easiest because that's when the lines are the 569 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: softest and I'm really big or not trying to catch 570 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: a falling knife. So I'll give you example. If you 571 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: look at the two thousand nine Tennessee Titans in two 572 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, they went thirteen and three. They come 573 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: back the next season and they start off oh and six, 574 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: and the public is firing on him every week, like, oh, 575 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: This team is not gonna go oh and two. This 576 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: team is not gonna go oh and three. This team 577 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: is not gonna go on four before you know what, 578 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: they're O and six. So I just think you have 579 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: to you have to quickly be able to adjust to 580 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: what you're seeing and recognize is this team losing games 581 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: based on luck? Are they're really just a bad team. 582 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks and then I'm out. I 583 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: love that phrase catch a falling knife. Explain it, um 584 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: so mean. It's just, you know, you're trying to catch 585 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a falling knife and you get stabs, so and it's 586 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: just it's just it's one of those things that I 587 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: think a lot it's a falacy that a lot of 588 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: betters find themselves doing. Keep betting the same thing over 589 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: and over and over again, and it just doesn't work. 590 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: It sounds like a terrible experience. I've had to learn 591 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: it too many times. So simon, if you heard that 592 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: phrase catch a falling knife, oh yeah, definitely, that's a 593 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: that's a great phrase to live by. Hmm. I'm gonna 594 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: use it. I think I'm all in, and I don't 595 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: want to catch a falling knife either. I'm against it. 596 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: All right, So then raheem, I got Simmons. He's thinking 597 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: Chargers over if he has to, uh, you know, gunn 598 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: to his head. We also, I could give you credit 599 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: for you You seem to love the Cults over ten 600 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: and a half, So I don't want to discount your 601 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: enthusiasm for that because I'm telling you got to choose 602 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: a team that's under double digits. Uh raheem, give me 603 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: your favorite under and your favorite over if you can 604 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: outside of those top four teams. Okay, So I'm taking 605 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans under nine and a half. I mean, 606 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: this is a team. They had one of the worst 607 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: defenses in the NFL last season. They were twenty knife 608 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: and d v o A thirties against the past. I 609 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: don't see their defense really improving that much this year. 610 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I know they gave Bud the pre a lot of money, 611 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: but I'm just not expecting him to really, you know, 612 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: have that performance with the Titans. They're really gonna change 613 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: this defense. Now. The biggest reason why I like this 614 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: under is you guys, remember when Kyle Shanahan was with 615 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. He was one of the best offensive coordinators. 616 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: He left and the Falcons were never the same offensively, 617 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: even though they had the same pieces. So the Titans 618 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: lost Arthur Smith, and you know, Ryan Tannehill had career 619 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: numbers under him. Now, I know they added Julio Jones 620 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: and the public is really gonna be hyped over his edition. 621 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: But how much better can this offense be? This is 622 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: one of the best offenses ever, I mean, and then 623 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 1: they outperformed their Protagonan went total they were they were 624 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: they were eleven and five, but he had a Protagonant 625 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: expectation of just nine point one wins. So I know 626 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the public is gonna push this up, but I'm taking 627 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: the under It's unfortunate that they play in the same 628 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: division as the Texans, but I still like the under 629 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: something you're shaking your head in the affirmative. Yeah, I 630 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: don't think eno. People are talking about big of a 631 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: lossaid especially I've seen a lot of people in the 632 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: fantasy community being all over the Titans team just for 633 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: this upcoming season, and I'm with Raheem. I think their 634 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: office is gonna take such a huge step back. It's 635 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be jarring. Especially Tannehill. Again, he was incredible 636 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: last year, but it was so above what is just normal, 637 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: Like he could not miss on deep throw, especially to 638 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: start the year, they were out of this world. So 639 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: to me, I'm with him, that's that's a high wind total. 640 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: Uh My only scary part is what he just talks 641 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: about that division, like they could go easy to go 642 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: four and now against the Jacks in the Texas. So 643 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: it is a little terrifying in that division. All right, 644 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: thank give me your favorite over reheam. It's unfortunate because 645 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that Charges as well. I mean 646 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: this Chargers team, they replaced Anthony Lynn with Brandon Staley, 647 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: and that's a huge upgrade at coach. I mean the 648 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: Charges Blue leads of eleven points of more four times 649 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: last season. Like that's enough to you know, get a 650 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: three win improvement. So I've really, really, really like the Chargers. 651 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: I think year two of Justin Herbert is gonna it's like, honestly, 652 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: we should be talking about possibly betting him to win 653 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: m v P because you know, second year quarterbacks tend 654 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: to do it. So I really like the Chargers. If 655 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I have to give out another one, I'd say to Browns, 656 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: I think they're a super Bowl winning team. Well I'm 657 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: So glad you mentioned that because I'm looking at the 658 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: win totals here and the one team that sticks out 659 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: that we did not discuss are the Cleveland Browns nine 660 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: and a half. You think they're super Bowl team explained, 661 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean you have the second year with their head coach, 662 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has played in so many different systems. I 663 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: mean this this offense was great last year. I think 664 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: their waitness was their defense. So you know, you had 665 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: guys like Greedy Williams were hurt all last year. The 666 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: defense is gonna be better. Also, I think when you 667 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: looked at a lot of those Browns games, they played 668 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: in a lot of weather suppressed games where you had 669 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: to win impacting things you had rained, Like it was 670 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: like seven or eight games to where they literally just 671 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: couldn't pass the ball because of the weather. So I 672 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: just think the offense is gonna be better with Kevin Stefanski, 673 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: and year two, the defense is gonna be better. They 674 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: just sign Um Clowney. No no, no, no, no, no 675 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: no no. We are not going to make betting decisions 676 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: and give betting advice based on Javan Clowney, who might 677 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: might play ten games. He's not he's no Raheem. He's 678 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: a University of Pennsylvania. You have an Ivy League degree. 679 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: You are smarter than that. We're not being suckers for 680 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: the big name going to a team, you know what. 681 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not being a sucker for the 682 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: big name. He's a upplemental peace so he doesn't have 683 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: to be the main guy here, and he's not gonna 684 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: have the sack numbers, but he's gonna have the pressure 685 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: numbers that you need. And I think that the Browns 686 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 1: defense is already gonna be better in the secondary. It's 687 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: just I really really liked this Browns team this year, 688 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: and I think I think they have a real shot. 689 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: And it also when you look at the rest of division, 690 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: the Stillers are gonna regress, the Bengals aren't gonna be great. 691 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: I already told you I'm not that high on the Ravens. 692 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: I don't mind the Browns at all. I think they're 693 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: a really interesting team, and I agree with you. I 694 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: thought Kevin Stefanski's ability to adjust the game plan midway 695 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: through last year and make Baker Mayfield a more comfortable 696 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: and more reliable quarterback was great signals great things for 697 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: the future. I'm not betting it because of J davean 698 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: fucking clowney. That's right, I mean, that's fair. I just 699 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: I just think he's a good supplemental piece for them. Uh, signon, signon? 700 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: Who are you with here? Are you with me and 701 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: my logic forbetting me over? Are you with Raheem and 702 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: his logic forbetting me over? The only reason I haven't 703 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: bet this over is it just it's something little stinky 704 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: about it, something a little stink. I don't know why 705 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: this isn't ten, because I haven't. I have just created 706 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: out at ten point two. So it's again I have 707 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: this way over. And it's it's a little weird to 708 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: me because I know they've talked to plenty of guys 709 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: in sports books and they told me they've been getting 710 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: hit hard on this over, And I don't know, it's weird. 711 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: It's a weird number because I'm with Raheem. All they've 712 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: done is improved. They literally their draft, they killed the draft. 713 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: They drafted all these really good defenders. Everything about this 714 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: team has been improved. I don't know why it's this number. 715 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: So for me, I just went the other way and 716 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: I just took them to win the FC at plus 717 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: a thousand. I didn't touch this total just because I figure, 718 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take something where I could see 719 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: them getting to the FC Championship. I don't know. Maybe 720 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna come in as a wild card at nine 721 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: or nine and eight, whatever weird number they're gonna come 722 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: in at. There's just something weird about this number. Is 723 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: if the Vegas knows something, cause is how is this 724 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 1: not double digits? This is a double digit win team. 725 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: So that's some reason I'm staying away from it. There's 726 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: just something stinky about it. I don't want to try 727 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: to catch a falling knife. All right, let me recap, 728 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: because this is what we're saying. This is what we're 729 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: telling people right now. We love the Bills under ten 730 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: and a half, We love the Colts over ten, we 731 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: love the Titans under nine and a half, we love 732 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers over nine, and we love the Texans under 733 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: four and a half. We all seem to love the Browns, 734 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: but we're a little bit afraid to pull the trigger 735 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: right now. And I like, I like Raheem's idea of 736 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert as m v P. I think that's a 737 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: really good idea too. Yeah, that's a really fun one, 738 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: especially because like he just said, it's the year two. 739 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: Year three leaps like I bet two with the win 740 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: m d P. I have no faith in two. But 741 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: it's the same thing where this makes had a major 742 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: hip injury. He had a guy in the head of 743 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: him last year. He didn't know the playbook. I just 744 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: look at the town on Miami. Year two too is 745 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: fully healthy. You bet that. It's not. Like I'm sitting here. 746 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: To two was a top twenty quarterback, top ten quarterback. 747 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm just betting on projecting out what too it could 748 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: be because I've seen the town in college. So to me, 749 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: that's another guy in the FC. I loved to a 750 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: year two. It's a little taste. I love it. You 751 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: know what. I love it. I love both of you. 752 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: You guys are great. Rhem Palmer, Simon Hunter. Thank you 753 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: for joining the Favorites podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 754 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: Guyam Chad Milman. We will be back on Thursday with 755 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: the thunder Doe Down on the podcast from Apple podcast, 756 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: from Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. Until next time, 757 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: I love you,