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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the straded fear of normalcy, juning things up on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Welcome to one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you as always as we dive deep into

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Speaker 1: the off season and get closer and closer to the

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Speaker 1: free agent market, could be a frenzy in the early going.

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Speaker 1: Gobs and gobs of talent being cut los his salary cap,

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Speaker 1: available to any bidders. Whatever. So we got what does

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Speaker 1: it coup? Has that happened? What does it happened? On

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Speaker 1: Monday this year? What's to say? St? Patrick's seventeenth is whin?

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Speaker 1: I guess I want to say it's a Wednesday's cruciating

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Speaker 1: memory Wednesday. Saint Patrick's when's the seventeenth? Brownie? Well, if

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Speaker 1: it's not next week, I'm not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: tell you what day of the week. It's it's not tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I know that it's two winds away. It's two weeks

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Speaker 1: from tomorrow. It's a Wednesday, two weeks from tomorrow, the seventeenth,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense because tomorrow's and obviously that Monday is

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Speaker 1: the hampering. Oh yeah, negotiating windows will not here. We'll

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Speaker 1: start hearing stuff immediately coming down the line, like they're

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Speaker 1: talking at these teams. We'll see where he ends up.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's the musical chairs portion of free agency's

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Speaker 1: as they do that. That's the Agents super Bowl right there.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We are we are injuring closer to that,

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Speaker 1: and we will be discussing that in great detail today

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Speaker 1: with regard to our Twitter poll, which we'll get too shortly.

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Speaker 1: In the wake of the JJ Watts signing in Arizona,

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Speaker 1: there were some other things that came to light, including

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Speaker 1: one report that indicated there were other teams offering more

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Speaker 1: which I found interesting. And and the bills obviously were

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Speaker 1: two thirds of this whatever, the last thirteen games of

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Speaker 1: the season, they were I mean, I went back and

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Speaker 1: watched a couple of games from the last month of

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Speaker 1: the season last year. Oh my gosh, the Bills were.

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Speaker 1: They were killing it. Yeah, Oh my gosh, they were

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Speaker 1: unstoppable and Josh was making throws. They got everyone everywhere

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Speaker 1: was playing way better. So that's why, I mean, so

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Speaker 1: that's why they were back. They were in it to

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Speaker 1: the finish, because you know, if you're out there guy

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Speaker 1: like jj why yeah, you know what, that looks pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I think can help those guys because a lot Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I saw some interesting negative commentary on what as you

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Speaker 1: are There was this one person claiming that Watt's all

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Speaker 1: that's why he went to Arizona, where he's going to

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Speaker 1: unbelievable the theories that people dredge up out there, well

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Speaker 1: I gotta kick out of that one. Pretty good, that was.

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Speaker 1: That was a little blow there for Jamal Adams who

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Speaker 1: know where I think he amazing? You know where I

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Speaker 1: And the reason I say that is twofold number one.

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Speaker 1: So that's a guess. Of course, they won the division

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Speaker 1: he could still play at what level? Not quite sure,

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Speaker 1: That's like signing away your retirement life for the salt mines. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm it's just not gonna happen. These guys

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Speaker 1: So we look forward to talking to him. But as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned, we know that the Bills did not land j. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt the first big fish in the free agent pool.

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Speaker 1: They did not want to overpay. They did not want

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Speaker 1: to commit an enormous amount of guaranteed money, and we

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Speaker 1: understand why that has been their m o. Do not overpay,

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Speaker 1: do not chase players and throw more money at them.

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Speaker 1: That's how they've remained capped strong during the Brandon being

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott regime. But I think what it did demonstrate,

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Speaker 1: Steve is if the right player comes free in free agency,

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Speaker 1: either via or release like jj Watt did, salary cap casualties,

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Speaker 1: which we're anticipating in the next week or two, or

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Speaker 1: doesn't get resigned by his own club, that the Bills

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Speaker 1: will make an attempt and will be willing to spend

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Speaker 1: significant money. I mean, the Bills were said to be

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Speaker 1: one of the last couple of teams in consideration. By

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Speaker 1: what they're not in consideration unless they're putting some level

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Speaker 1: of money up, some kind of commitment, and it would

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Speaker 1: have been a significant commitment, certainly more than Brandon being

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Speaker 1: led on in his season wrap up press conference where

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Speaker 1: he said, don't expect any big splashes, but I think

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Speaker 1: there are gonna be some players shaken out of the

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Speaker 1: trees here in the next couple of weeks that may

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Speaker 1: prompt them to invest or attempt to invest heavily. Again.

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Speaker 1: I would, yeah, I kind of love to know where

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get the money. But well, they had to

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Speaker 1: be kidding creative with JJ two, and I think in

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Speaker 1: the end that's probably what made him take the money

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Speaker 1: in hand in Arizona, but certainly knowing that he was

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Speaker 1: given strong considerations. Buffalo Bills will let you know what

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Speaker 1: this organization, how it's respected around the league and has

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Speaker 1: become to be respected with Sean McDermot, Brandon being in

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Speaker 1: the way they do business, and guys who have come

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Speaker 1: here and left, and the word that gets out about

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Speaker 1: how well players are treated here. I think that that

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Speaker 1: in and of itself is should be comforting to Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: But also I love I mean, the Bills kick the

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Speaker 1: tires on everybody. Well, yes, that's the I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to say, gosh, they should really call it.

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Speaker 1: They did, and that's but that's my one biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this whole JJ Watt thing, the fact that they

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Speaker 1: were able to that they were willing to take a

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Speaker 1: swing at it, when just over a month ago we

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Speaker 1: heard no big splashes, don't expect mush from us from

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Speaker 1: free agency. Then this guy comes loose and it's like, WHOA,

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Speaker 1: we gotta look at this. Let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: find a way to make it work financially, and it

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Speaker 1: may involve tough decisions where you're lopping other people off

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Speaker 1: the roster to get that guy. And to me, Steve

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Speaker 1: It says they're they're willing to make tough decisions if

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Speaker 1: it means they feel they can get better on their

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Speaker 1: defensive line because they're they're five, they just tried to

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Speaker 1: do it. They're five million over the cap, and they

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Speaker 1: were in the running for a sixteen and a half

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Speaker 1: fifteen and a half million dollar player, so they were

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Speaker 1: ready to pull the strings necessary to go down with that, right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They may have been six million dollars off,

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Speaker 1: but even so, well, you're committing ten twelve million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year to that guy, and that's that's a big splash.

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Speaker 1: That's a little splashy to me. Yes, you're getting splattered

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Speaker 1: by that with a splash, that's yes, that is a

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Speaker 1: splashy move. Now, granted, nobody knows the future, and him

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Speaker 1: sitting there two weeks ago, he didn't really know that

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Speaker 1: JJ was gonna be available like ten days later. But

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Speaker 1: by the same token, we've been sitting here talking about

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Speaker 1: it too. This is gonna be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a different offseason and it may take less money to

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Speaker 1: make a splash than it ever has. That's interesting to

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Speaker 1: think about. We've been we've been chewing on that like

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Speaker 1: a dog on a bone for two and a half

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Speaker 1: weeks about just pondering what it's gonna mean for the

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Speaker 1: Bills to have a shot at some guys we never

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Speaker 1: thought they'd ever get a look at. So with that

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Speaker 1: in mind, our Twitter poll today is where do you

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Speaker 1: feel the Bills need to make a significant investment in

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Speaker 1: free agency? And we'll leave it open to you. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna give you choices. We want you to make

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Speaker 1: your own choice. Let us know what you think. I

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Speaker 1: think the pursuit of JJ Watt is a strong indication

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Speaker 1: that if the right player comes free, that they believe

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Speaker 1: can make them better. They'll they'll do what they need

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Speaker 1: to to try to make it happen. The pursuit of

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Speaker 1: J J. Watt, I think, is proof of that. So

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Speaker 1: where do you want the Bills to make a significant

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Speaker 1: investment in free agency? You can mention a specific position,

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Speaker 1: you can mention a specific player. It's all fair game

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Speaker 1: here and so you can give us a call at

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Speaker 1: eight o three fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty, or hit us up on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: at one Bills Live, which we will get you after

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Speaker 1: the break. We have to step aside now, but when

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Speaker 1: we come back we'll get some of your early comments

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Where do the Bills need to

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Speaker 1: make a significant investment in free agency? Open line for

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Speaker 1: you also at eight three five fifty Give us a

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Speaker 1: call one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. Steve

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Speaker 1: and I back in a sec here on one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Klota Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to one Bill's Love. Chris Brown, Steve Taster with

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Speaker 1: you here on a Tuesday, asking where do the Bills

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Speaker 1: need to make a significant investment in free agency? They

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Speaker 1: already tried to do that on their defensive line, which

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, already has six of the top eleven salaries

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Speaker 1: on the roster. They tried to go in to the

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Speaker 1: well again to improve that defensive front. Presumably, had they

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Speaker 1: landed jj Watt, they may have had to make some

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Speaker 1: subtractions from the roster to make that palatable with the

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Speaker 1: knowing they're over the restrictive cap already by about five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. So seeing that in the pursuit of jj Watt,

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Speaker 1: you know that the Bills, if they see the right

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Speaker 1: player come free, may jump into those free agent waters

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Speaker 1: with significant dollars. Again, So where do the Bills need

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Speaker 1: to make that significant investment in your eyes in free agency?

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Speaker 1: And we're going to jump right into the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: comments here, Steve, and as we know, tweet sheet brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the visual equipment moving

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bill and Allan says, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see a veteran running back come in to upgrade

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Speaker 1: the spot. The offense would be even better with a

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Speaker 1: versatile running back. First and foremost, Can I just say

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Speaker 1: this again, Devin Singletary is a versatile running back? Can

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Speaker 1: I just say that, like, yes, again, twenty fifth in

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Speaker 1: the league in catch rate out of all offensive skill

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Speaker 1: position players, okay, and second best on the team in

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Speaker 1: terms of catch rate. And I realize a lot of

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Speaker 1: his receptions are of the shorter variety, so you would

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Speaker 1: expect him to be near the top of the list.

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Speaker 1: But the guy can catch the football. He's got some versatility.

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Speaker 1: The one thing he doesn't have, and Zach Moss doesn't

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Speaker 1: have this either, is breakaway home run ability. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to get a home run hitter at running back,

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Speaker 1: I'll listen to that. But I think you and I

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Speaker 1: are kind of on the same page with this, that

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Speaker 1: the running back improvements are rooted largely in offensive line

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Speaker 1: and schematics more than the two guys in the backfield. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's where I sit on the entire matter. I think

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Speaker 1: you start fixing your running game upfront, not in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: And I know that it's counterintuitive for a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that it's all about the running back, but I

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Speaker 1: was all say this. I was on this train all

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Speaker 1: the way back years ago when Levion Bell was leaving Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: I told I said it. Then I said, he's nuts.

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Speaker 1: If he thinks he's going to go anywhere else and

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Speaker 1: have the success he had in Pittsburgh because the offensive

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Speaker 1: line in Pittsburgh four or five years ago was dominant,

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Speaker 1: I mean not good. He's a perfect example. They were

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Speaker 1: dominant and he was never going to find that with

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Speaker 1: another team. And I thought he was I thought he

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Speaker 1: was nuts turned that offer down, and I think and

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Speaker 1: obviously it paid for it. He quite literally he left

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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars on the table, and not only in

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Speaker 1: the pocketbook, but arguably in his career too, because his

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Speaker 1: career has never been the same. Yeah, that was a

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Speaker 1: guy who had a chance, an outside shot if he

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Speaker 1: kept playing well to be a Hall of Fame type

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Speaker 1: all time great for that franchise, and yeah he need Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now you know, Alan says he wants some versatile running back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at this free agent list, and

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Speaker 1: sure at the top of the list you got a

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Speaker 1: guy like Aaron Jones. There's a versatile guy, but you

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Speaker 1: don't have to pay him like eight and a half

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars a year. And the Bills aren't doing that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they should. I don't think that's a

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Speaker 1: place where they would make a significant investment. Running back

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Speaker 1: is probably the most cost prohibitive position you can make

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Speaker 1: a big investment ad It's been proven time and time again.

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Speaker 1: There are a few exceptions. I won't debate that. A

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Speaker 1: guy like Adrian Peterson, you know who signed a big

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Speaker 1: deal at age twenty nine or twenty eight. He he's

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Speaker 1: a freak. So it worked. But the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: running backs after each twenty eighth season begin to decline.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are names on the Aaron Jones, Chris Carson,

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Speaker 1: Kenyon Drake, people who for people who aren't watching us

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Speaker 1: on television. James Connor, Marlon Mack for the Colts, Jamal

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Speaker 1: Williams for Green Bay, James White for the Patriots, Todd

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Speaker 1: Gurley for Atlanta, Leonard Fournette from Tampa Bay. I do

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Speaker 1: like Leonard Fournette. I don't know anything about the guy's personality.

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Speaker 1: I know this when I spoke to him in his

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Speaker 1: rookie season as a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars, I

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Speaker 1: was really impressed with him. He's a sharp, articulate guy

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Speaker 1: and sometimes and a little bit like Lashawn McCoy. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying their personalities are the same, but they both

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Speaker 1: have strong personalities. They're not afraid to tell you what

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Speaker 1: they think and about how things should be or are

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Speaker 1: or aren't so, and be very honest with you. A

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Speaker 1: lot of coaches don't like that about you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean they don't like they want guys to be do

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Speaker 1: what you're told and that kind of thing. Because a

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Speaker 1: running back a guy who you're gonna have to hand

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Speaker 1: the football too if you start depending on him, and

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Speaker 1: he's got, you know, a strong personalities one thing, But

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Speaker 1: you got to have a guy who is wise beyond

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Speaker 1: his years as well, and he and I don't know

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Speaker 1: that those that every guy comes off like that in

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Speaker 1: the wisdom department. And if you're going to hand the

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Speaker 1: guy the ball twenty times a game and make him

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Speaker 1: that bitch a part of your offense, he's got to

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Speaker 1: be on board all the time, every day. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys with strong opinions aren't willing to compromise

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Speaker 1: those opinions for the good of the team, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, And I making sense interesting. No

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Speaker 1: teams will look at that when they decide, you know,

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Speaker 1: if let's just say there's a team out there that

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Speaker 1: needs to fill a running back hole with a veteran.

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Speaker 1: They look at that and say, hey, does this guy

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Speaker 1: fit into the culture and construct of what we expect

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Speaker 1: on players to be. Do act like I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Leonard for it's a bad guy, or LaShaun McCoy is

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Speaker 1: a bad guy, or any of those guys like Mojo,

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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones, Drew Um. You can name a lot of

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Speaker 1: running backs who have, you know, strong personalities, but because

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Speaker 1: they're great leaders and they're on board kind of team guys,

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Speaker 1: you can build a franchise around those guys. Jerome Bettis

640
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: was that kind of guy. Thurman, of course, was that

641
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Barry Sanders, Marshall Falk they were buy inners.

642
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, they would buy in and you could you

643
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: don't mind them having a strong personality because they were

644
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: on board with the coaching staff, on board with working hard,

645
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: on board with self sacrifice, and that personality would give

646
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: the rest of the team some juice. Exactly right now,

647
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: if you've got a guy who's not quite one hundred

648
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: percent down that line, it's a big it's a big

649
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: doubt because if you want to get that guy the

650
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: ball twenty five times, you're not gonna all of a

651
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: sudden not give him the ball twenty five times because

652
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: he's called out your defensive line coach for some reason, right,

653
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Um, Leonard Fournett's bounced

654
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: around a little bit in the league, and there's that

655
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: gives me when guys do that, that gives me pause. Yeah,

656
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: that gives me pause. So yeah, I you know, as

657
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: much as Alan wants to add it running back, unfortunately

658
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see them doing that from Red

659
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: Knight kid, I think they should go after Jared Cook.

660
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: Alex Anzelan's another good coverage linebacker. That's fast. He was

661
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: a running back in high school. If the Bills make

662
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: players the best versions of themselves, add Cohen Short and

663
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: possibly Clowney. First, we need the moves to see how

664
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: much Cap draft running back linebacker old line um where

665
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot there. Let's unpack this one at a time.

666
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Jared Cook getting pretty long in the tooth now um

667
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: in New Orleans last year. If I if my memory

668
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: serves correct, H, I don't know. I mean, he's like

669
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: I said, he's I want to say he's he's thirty three,

670
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three, A lot of miles on those

671
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: tires right. Yeah, he's thirty three and he will turn

672
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: thirty four in April. He was seven and a half

673
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: million dollars last year. You know, they're the top guys

674
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: on this list. Or Hunter, Henry Grenkowski, Jared Cook, Tyler

675
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: Croft is on this list, Tyler Eiffort. You know. Then

676
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: you got guys like Jacob Hollister, Virgil Green, Mi, Cole Pruett,

677
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: Marcedes Lewis, who is almost he's thirty seven, Marcedes Lewis,

678
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: he's been around four ever, A ton of guys. I

679
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: don't know if I want to start this this early

680
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: in the offseason. I've got high hopes for the guys

681
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: on this roster right now, I think I really think

682
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: I hate I can't believe what I'm saying. This is earlier.

683
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: I really think Dawson Knox is going to be the guy. Well,

684
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at if you look at

685
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: his last ten games from the twenty twenty season, it

686
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: is not week over week, lights out production, but I

687
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: think it demonstrates an uptick in what he is capable of.

688
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: And I think too many people forget that this was

689
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: a guy who was a high school quarterback and was

690
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: probably the sixth or seventh option in the old miss

691
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: passing game. I mean, guy caught fifteen balls in college. Yeah,

692
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: you know it. They drafted him on a high ceiling,

693
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: and I think we can all agree he hasn't reached

694
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: the ceiling yet. But I think if you go to

695
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: probably his last ten games of last season, which I'm

696
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: trying to comb through right now, so basically, well even

697
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: his last let's just look at his last six games

698
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: because he was injured and misstime, Covid basically missed week

699
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: six through nine. Okay, so missed a month of the season.

700
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: So if you go from week ten on, okay, so

701
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: did he light up the scoreboard? No, but he had

702
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: three touchdowns over those last seven weeks. And let me

703
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: see here two. I mean, you know, first game back

704
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: after a month off, two catches sixteen yards. Next week

705
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, which was a heavy run game, one catch,

706
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: but then after that four catches twenty seven yards in

707
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: a touchdown, four catches thirty four yards, two catches thirty

708
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: six yards, three catches fifty one yards, two catches twenty

709
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: nine yards touchdown. So look again, at best he's the

710
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: fourth option in their passing game. Now with a guy

711
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: we have with Diggs, Cold Beasley, John Brown. I mean

712
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Digs is getting twelve targets a game, Beasley's getting eight

713
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: or nine, and then it's either Davis or Brown getting

714
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: the other six to ten. It doesn't leave much. I mean,

715
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: he was basically working with table scraps right. His opportunities

716
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: were not abundant um. I will say this, if John

717
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: Brown is not a part of the team, or if

718
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: they restructure because of his cap figure, not because of

719
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: his production, I think Dawson Knox those opportunities flow to him.

720
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: I saw some stuff like you think back in a

721
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: week seventeen when Matt Barkley came in. Now here's the thing.

722
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Week seventeen is a little different animal because Brian day

723
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: Ball was he was trying to get that. He was

724
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: trying to get the touchdown pass to a fifteenth different

725
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: guy he was, you know what I mean, And he

726
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: had his chance to Taiwan Jones bunked going off his

727
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: face mask in the end zone. They would have had it.

728
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: And then they were working with Matt Matt Barkley in

729
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: the second half right and coming out they were throwing

730
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: the football all over to Isaiah McKenzie. Was the guy

731
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: remembered Week seventeen. He had three touchdowns. The two touchdowns

732
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: receiving and a punt touchdown. He was catching the ball.

733
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: The second guy in that offense was Dawson Knox. They

734
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: he had a ton of opportunities in Barkley just kept

735
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: missing him, kept just overthrowing him. Did it like three times,

736
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: and a couple of them were for big ones, for

737
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: big games. So I think it's in there somewhere for

738
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: Knox to emerge in this offense. I think day Boles

739
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: got it in him. I think they would love to

740
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: have it, and I think at some point they're gonna

741
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: give the guy the chance to do it. I don't

742
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: think that means he's not going to have a healthy

743
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: dose of competition coming in here though next summer. I

744
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: don't think they'll find somebody sure compete with him. Oh yeah,

745
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: of course they've got to, because if Lee Smith's not here,

746
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: Tyler Croft isn't here, what Sweeney situation, you know, with

747
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: his Tommy screens. That's the thing. But here's the thing.

748
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna bring in a seven and

749
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: a half million dollars cook or a six million dollars

750
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: chaired Cup. They might. I mean they might bring in

751
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: another guy like Tyler Croft. I think they'll bring some

752
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: guy in on a budgetary type deal, some veteran, unless

753
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: you have someone like zach ert shake free, and then

754
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: that could change the conversation. I think if you have

755
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: a zach Ertz that's released by Philadelphia and he's sitting

756
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: out there, then I think they take a similar approach

757
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: to the one they just took with JJ Watt. I

758
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: think that's a guy that's an exception. You make an

759
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: exception for a player of that caliber, wouldn't you say?

760
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: I would say yes, yeah, particularly on a deal it's

761
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: team friendly right so right now, But that's one of

762
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: those guys that you at least pick up the phone

763
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: and you say, hey, look, sorry, it didn't work out

764
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: for you in Philly. I know you had an eight

765
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: point two five million dollar cap figure there and they

766
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: couldn't stomach it. I'm gonna be honest with you, we

767
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: can't do that either. But if you want to come

768
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: here and play for six and a half million on

769
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: a one year deal, prove you still have it and

770
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: then go cash in in the free agent market next year,

771
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: we're here for you. Yeah, or five million dollar deal

772
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: with some incentives. So that's something that if it becomes available,

773
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: that's where I could see them making an investment like

774
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: the ones we're taught talking about and asking fans to

775
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: but way in say where do you want it? Here's

776
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: the thing as well, you've got two teams in this

777
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: JJ wat sweets takes like that. It was reported that

778
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: the Texts or no, the Titans and the Colts both yeah,

779
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: offered more money as much or more money. So in

780
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: a year like this, we've got all these designs on

781
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: guys like zach ERT's fall into the Bills and we

782
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: want to pay. I don't know, because there's still a

783
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: lot of teams out there with just as much savvy,

784
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: way more money to spend right now than the Buffalo Bills.

785
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: So I think it might be that. I don't know

786
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: that all of them can say they got a quarterback

787
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen ready to throw the ball to you. Yeah,

788
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: they weren't on the doorstep last year and eight times

789
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, not all of them were on the

790
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: doorstep last year. So I'm I'm just saying, the more

791
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: you think about it, the more you can talk to

792
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: yourself into both sides of the coin being that, Yeah,

793
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: there're gonna be more guys out there, but there's still

794
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: a ton of teams that are gonna spend stupidly. Yeah,

795
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: and you know as whether and then also whether you

796
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: know some great player or unexpected player decides to take

797
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: a team friendly deal for one year, just you know,

798
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. And the later and later you

799
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: get into free agency, the more likely that becomes because

800
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: the market softens, the money dries up, and now you

801
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: have to take a budgetary deal. So the Bills may

802
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: be wise to just sit in the weeds and wait

803
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: for some of those bargains break time. Yeah, there's two times,

804
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: two sides of that coin. But that coin turns pretty slowly.

805
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: It does. Free agency break time for us. When we

806
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: come back, more of your comments from the tweet sheet,

807
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: and don't forget in about fifteen minutes time, we'll have

808
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: Judy Batista from NFL Network joining us, so stay tuned

809
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: for that. Here on One Bills Live, presented by a

810
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to

811
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as

812
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: we motor through the first hour of the program and

813
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: a reminder that we'll have NFL Networks Judy Batista coming

814
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: up in about ten minutes time and she'll kind of

815
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: help us out with where this schedule is going. With

816
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: the seventeenth game expected to be added in twenty twenty

817
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: one this fall, and the TV deals that should be

818
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: announced within about a week as it looks like everything

819
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: is being finalized, teas being crossed, eyes being dotted on

820
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: these new contracts with the television networks and the league

821
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: and what that could mean for the cap going forward

822
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: and when we can expect a hard and fast number there.

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00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: Just wrapping up with the comments on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: from Red Knight Kid. He's interested in alex anzelon the

825
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: linebacker from New Orleans who is set to become a

826
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: free agent. He's claiming that, you know, he's really fast

827
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Speaker 1: and good coverage linebacker. I agree, he plays faster than

828
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: any times, but this is a guy that ran a

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Speaker 1: four six two at the combine, so not lightning fast

830
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: on the stop watch, but played a lot of snaps

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Speaker 1: for a very good New Orleans defense. I'm not one

832
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: hundred percent certain that he would be a fit um

833
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: and I think he will make some money on the

834
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: free agent market. I don't know if he's gonna be

835
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: part of the first wave, but he's probably gonna sign

836
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later in the market. Like we've been saying,

837
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: I think you know anzelone and you can throw his

838
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: name into a hat and pull out a bunch of guys.

839
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Anteloone maybe every bit the athlete that Matt Milano is.

840
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: I would question whether his instincts are as strong as Milano's.

841
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't think he's quite the athlete Milano is personally.

842
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he is Milano's Milano's. I think when

843
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: they drafted him in the fifth round, they're looking at

844
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: a guy who had better athleticism than that. I think

845
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: the thing, right, Milano got pushed to the fifth round

846
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 1: as a linebacker because he's undersized. So at two twenty five,

847
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: that's just not heavy enough to be considered one of

848
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: those guys. Now if he was, like, for instance, if

849
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: he played the exact same way he does now, any

850
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: waged two fifty, that's now you're talking a different animal. Yeah,

851
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: And I think the other point to be made here

852
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: is there's a bunch of those kinds of players right

853
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: in the first two days of the NFL Draft. So

854
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: I think the best way to plug that hole is

855
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: with a draft choice somewhere on the first two days

856
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: in rounds one, two or three to get a plug

857
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: and play type talent. And there will be plenty of them. Well,

858
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: as we have discussed several times, Steve, there's a lot

859
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: more of those guys running around in college that are

860
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: six two, two, twenty five that can run and hit

861
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: than there are at six, five, three or three ten

862
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: that can play right tackle. Forget about in the first

863
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: two days of the draft. You can get him in

864
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the first you know, you can get them anywhere in

865
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: the draft, because that's what that's what college football's four of, yeah,

866
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: is that's undersized, undersized athletes who can run and hit.

867
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: That's that's the entire defensive front of some you know

868
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: Tier two schools. I mean they can all you know,

869
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: you get an athlete and one of the it always

870
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: gets me Red Knight that tweet you just read he

871
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: was a running back in college. Alexandelone was a running

872
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: back in college. We'll welcome to the club. In high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

873
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: he's running back in high school. Well, welcome to the club.

874
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Every guy in the NFL played that unless they were

875
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds both sides of the ball and never

876
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: came out of the damn Yeah, all of them everything,

877
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: even guys like me, Yeah, and quickly. Clowney is a No.

878
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: Clowney does not have the kind of attitude that would

879
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: fit into this culture. His engine doesn't run fast, and

880
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: he's coming off an offseason surgery as well, which only

881
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: throws another fly in the ointment there. He'll be cleared.

882
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: They're saying he's going to be cleared physically sometime in April,

883
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: Clowney after the ear surgery. So yeah, Cowan short could

884
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: be a different story. Clowney's window for being a Buffalo

885
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: bills really small. No, Yeah, I think. I mean, the

886
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: guy's too good a player to completely ignore. I will

887
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: say that. But if you can get him for the

888
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: right money all things. Every week you throw him out there,

889
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: you're wondering what you're getting though, and that would drive

890
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: a coach like Sean McDermott crazy. Who's all about trust.

891
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: If I want to put you out on the field

892
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: because I trust, I know what I'm gonna get from you,

893
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: And with Clowney, I don't think you get that. Even

894
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: with all that talent, you might have a spectacular play,

895
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: but the other fifty snaps could be lousy. Yeah, you

896
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: can't win with a guy like that exactly. And now

897
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: if you could find a way to have him come

898
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: in and be extremely motivated like the Bills have been

899
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: able to do to other guys. Yeah, but they had

900
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: him on him, The Titans had him on a one

901
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: year deal this year and he didn't do anything. Yeah

902
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: he was injured though. I mean, well, okay, but yeah,

903
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm not totally with did the same thing in Seattle.

904
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm some flashes, nothing great, No thank you. Yeah, break

905
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: time for us when we come back. Judy Batista from

906
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: NFL Network joins us, don't go anywhere. We'll be back here.

907
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: On One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

908
00:50:51,600 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

909
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

910
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: a dual role player for state. Steve a blimp. We're

911
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: not even in the strategire of normalcy. Here our number

912
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 1: two on a Tuesday, One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve

913
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,439
Speaker 1: Tasker broadcasting from the Seneca Studios here in Orchard Park,

914
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: New York at one Bill's Drive and joining us as

915
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: promised for the second hour of the show. You've seen

916
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: her on NFL Network. She's been an NFL dot Com

917
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: columnist and has covered the NFL nationally since two thousand

918
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: and four. It is a good friend of the show,

919
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: Judy Batista spending some time with us here in the offseason. Judy,

920
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: how you doing, Thanks for joining us. Good, good to

921
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: see you guys. Steve, you wanted to begin right away

922
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: with Jane j Watt with with Judy. Here is that?

923
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Where ago? What it? Did? It go the way you thought?

924
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised he got fifteen and a

925
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: half million, and a little surprised it was Arizona, who,

926
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: after all we'd heard, was not one of the teams

927
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: that was high on his list. Yeah, that came out

928
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: of left field to me, the Arizona part of it.

929
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how much he was going to get.

930
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: I thought he would get paid pretty well because I

931
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: assumed that there would be multiple teams in it and

932
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: that would drive the price up. But I was certainly

933
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: surprised at it ended up being Arizona, because, as you said,

934
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: none of us heard Arizona sort of whispered in the

935
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: last few weeks. I kind of like it. Look, you know,

936
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: I think for people who thought, well, he's going to

937
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: go to a place that has a good chance of

938
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: running a Super Bowl next year, this is maybe not

939
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: what you expected. But you know, he'll have Chandler Jones

940
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: on the other side that'll draw some attention away. I

941
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: go back to something our good friend John McClean from

942
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: The Euston Chronicle said on the NFL Network yesterday right

943
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: after jj announced his selection. He made the point that

944
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: he came back after his back injury and all of

945
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: that and had sixteen sacks in a season when he

946
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: had Judevian Clowney opposite him to draw some attention from blockers,

947
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: and he's going to have that again in Arizona. And

948
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: I think that'll work well for him. And also I

949
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: think it's clear and had run its course in Houston

950
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: for him. His frustration this season was obvious when he

951
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: walked off the field with Deshaun Watson at the end

952
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: of the season and said, I'm sorry we wasted one

953
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: of your years. I thought that probably gave us a

954
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: pretty good insight into what JJ Watt was thinking all

955
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: season long. That a whole year had been wasted, and

956
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: so I think he might have sort of the Tom

957
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 1: Brady experience, maybe not winning the Super Bowl, but where

958
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: he'll be refreshed and revitalized and you know, and we'll

959
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: play well there. I wonder, you know, And obviously he

960
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: had his pick of the litter, because you know, he's

961
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: out there in the free agent market before anybody else is.

962
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he couldn't have asked for a better situation.

963
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: I think we're all expecting, Judy that the first week

964
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: of free agency you'll still see players get big money

965
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: deals as we usually do that first wave, so to speak.

966
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: Are we anticipating though, that you know, the money is

967
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: going to dry up that much faster with so many

968
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: of these teams tight on the cap with the restrictive

969
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: cap this year, you know, basically subtracting upwards of thirty

970
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: million dollars from what everybody projected, it's going to dry

971
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: up a lot faster. I'm thinking the second wave and

972
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: the middle market's going to disappear. What do you kind

973
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: of forecast there? Yes, I agree with that, and I mean, look,

974
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: let's face it, we're already at March second and we

975
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the cap number is yet, and the

976
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: teams don't know what the cap number is yet, and

977
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: that's why you haven't seen many things being done, you know,

978
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 1: leading into it. Teams that want to work on deals

979
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: for guys that are they already have that they want

980
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: to keep from hitting free agency. You're not even seeing

981
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: that kind of movement yet because everybody's sort of waiting.

982
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: I agree that with Look, the biggest guys, the top

983
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: free agents are going to get money. But part of

984
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: the dynamic that I think we're all expecting is because

985
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: the cap is going to comes so far down, You're

986
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: going to see a lot of people released. You're gonna

987
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: see a lot of veterans available, and that usually drives,

988
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, drives down the market. Right, you know, you

989
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: have you have a glut um that's not good for

990
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: the players. But that's certainly something I would expect to see.

991
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,479
Speaker 1: I think the money is going to dry up very quickly,

992
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: and I think that sort of second and third wave

993
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: a free agency that we see is going to be

994
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: very slow for players. Unfortunately, well as we The last

995
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: last thing I got for you about the salary cap

996
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: is what do you think is there a chance that

997
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: maybe one of those teams that have a ton of space,

998
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: like the Indianapolis Colts or Jacksonville or one of these

999
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: teams like the Indianapolis Colts seemed to me a really

1000
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: perfect candidate for putting together like a super team like

1001
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay did, where they've got enough money to spend,

1002
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: they've got draft picks, they've got a new quarterback. They

1003
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: were very close and very well coached last year and

1004
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: looked to take another step this year. Teams like that

1005
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: who could be closed could be perceived by the free

1006
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: agent market collectively as a place, hey, we could go

1007
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: and make a run at this. Yeah. I think if

1008
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: you're a veteran player who is looking for an opportunity

1009
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: to join a you know, a very good team that's

1010
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: close that you may you think may go on a run. Yes,

1011
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I think the Cults are sort of that candidate. They were.

1012
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: They're a playoff team. They've got the quarterback who they believe,

1013
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, that they can resurrect in Carson Wentz. And

1014
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: they've got a really good deep roster aside from the

1015
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: quarterback that you know, they are built to win um

1016
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: and if they get the quarterback right, this is a

1017
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: team that is going to be very difficult in the AFC.

1018
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: So yes, I think that is the kind of place

1019
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: that if you're a veteran who's out there on the

1020
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: free agent market and you're trying to pick a spot

1021
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: where you know you might have postseason success. I certainly

1022
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: think that's one of the Another team that I think,

1023
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, is going to be really interesting to watch

1024
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: in free agency is the Patriots. They have a lot

1025
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: of money, um and and you know, relatively high draft

1026
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: pick for the Patriots, something they haven't had in years

1027
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: and years and years. They have a you know, they

1028
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: have some needs, but you know, it's going to be

1029
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: interesting to see with a lot of cap space, how

1030
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: do they operate. This is unusual for the Patriots. Obviously

1031
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: they have a need a quarterback, which it's not something

1032
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, we've had to think a whole lot about

1033
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: in twenty years. So that's a team that, you know, look,

1034
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: they're always interesting, but I think certainly their current circumstances

1035
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: make them really fascinating. Talking to NFL Networks, Judy Batista,

1036
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: and let's let's kind of shift over to the business

1037
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: side of the Ledger here with the NFL, Judy, the

1038
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: television network deals. You know, multiple reports out there. I

1039
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: know you've been covering this as well. In terms of

1040
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: when this is going to be finalized. It looks like

1041
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: it could be announced as early as late this week,

1042
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: but some people are saying probably early next week. When

1043
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: they kind of cross all the t's dot all the eyes.

1044
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: What does My bigger question is, we know, we knew

1045
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: this was going to happen, but when it after it's

1046
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: announced and it does happen, how it's longer before we

1047
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: know what the cap number is in twenty twenty one,

1048
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: because this is the final domino that the league was

1049
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: waiting on. Right. Yes, it's all tied in together, which

1050
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 1: is why you know, we're all expecting that it's got

1051
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: to happen in the next you know, ten days, because

1052
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: they've got to know what they're working with before they

1053
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: start free agencies. So yes, I think you know, we're

1054
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: going to find out in the next few days when

1055
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: the deals are done, and then they'll be able to

1056
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: set the cap number. Look, the deals are going to

1057
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,439
Speaker 1: be really, really rich. I mean, it is by far

1058
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: the most popular property on television and even you know

1059
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: when you see ratings come down a little bit this year,

1060
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,959
Speaker 1: which I think was expected during the pandemic and during

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Speaker 1: an election cycle. The ratings were still far better than

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00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: anything else. The ratings held up much better than anything

1063
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: else on television, any other sport, and any other entertainment.

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Speaker 1: So it's not surprising that the NFL is going to

1065
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: rake in the money on the TV deals. That's and

1066
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: that's very good news if you're a player. Um, that

1067
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: is very good news because that's you know, that's what

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00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: drives the salary cap. And especially after uh, you know,

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00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: the season they just went through where the revenues came

1070
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 1: way down because you couldn't have fans or mostly couldn't

1071
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: have fans. Um, it's going to be very welcome news

1072
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: for everybody when they get those television numbers rolling in

1073
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: and then you you know, you have the assurance that

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00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: the cap is going to rise, and rise quite dramatically.

1075
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Is there any limitations on how high the cap can go? There?

1076
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: Any percentages or ceilings, because if the if they do

1077
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: kick in, the TV deals do kick in. Is there

1078
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: any mechanism to say, hey, we can go up, but

1079
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: we can't go up that high. I don't think there is, right,

1080
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if they can drop thirty million dollars on

1081
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: the cap one year, they should be able to gain

1082
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: whatever sixty twenty twenty two. Um. So, because when you

1083
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: start to outlook out, there's no limit as to how

1084
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: high it can go if they if they get the

1085
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: revenue right. I mean, I they've always talked about wanting

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: to smooth the cap, but that's much more in relationship,

1087
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: trying to smooth over any declines, which is what you

1088
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: saw this year, right They negotiated what the floor could

1089
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: be because they didn't want it to drop even more.

1090
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, you know, when the when the

1091
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: money starts, when the new contracts kick in and they

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01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: get that whole wave of revenue coming in. We saw

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: this the last time the TV deals got done. You saw,

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01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, a pretty good rise in the salary cap.

1095
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: It was. It was not incremental, it was pretty pretty good.

1096
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: Um And I think that's what we all expect coming

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01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: up here and in the next year. So this is

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01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: this year right now is going to be the tough year.

1099
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: Obviously completely unforeseeable circumstances. They finished one CBA uh you

1100
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: know last year, and then literally the bottom dropped out

1101
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: and the country started shutting down and they had to

1102
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: go right back in and negotiate a new CBA, with

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: a new with the anticipation of what the salary cap

1104
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: was going to be. But certainly, I knock on wood,

1105
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: we're starting to come out of it, and hopefully after

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01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: this season that they're expecting they can get pretty close to,

1107
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: if not full houses, and they'll be through it and

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01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: then we'll go back to normal where the cap rises.

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01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: Also this fall, Judy, we're anticipating a seventeenth game being

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: added to everybody's schedule. The question I have for you

1111
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: is the general consensus seems to be that it'll be

1112
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: played in well, it's been suggested that it will be

1113
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: played in Week eighteen, And my only concern with that

1114
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: is we've seen all these efforts by the league to

1115
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: have division games at the end of the year to

1116
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: prevent players sitting less entertaining games, and I'm thinking, you

1117
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: don't want to put an interconference game in Week eighteen, right,

1118
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: because then you run the risk of having that very

1119
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: same problem resurface again. No, I think you will see

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Speaker 1: the schedule be division games in the final weekends season.

1121
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: They love that, But what you're going to see is

1122
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: they're going to play seventeen games. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: add an extra by week. It looks like it will

1124
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: still only be one by week, which means, you know,

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01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: you push the entire postseason calendar back a week, say

1126
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: you would get the Super Bowl, you know, mid February

1127
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: instead of early February. Now, because they're still going to

1128
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: start the season after Labor Day, they do not want

1129
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: to start the season before Labor Day, so that that's

1130
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: going to be the structure. And it looks like right

1131
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: now the AFC it's going to alternate year by year.

1132
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: It looks like the AFC will have the home games

1133
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: this year for the seventeenth game, so there's going to

1134
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: be a lot of schedule machinations. There's no question that

1135
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: they're going to a seventeenth game, especially after they had

1136
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: the revenue drop last year. All more reason to in

1137
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: the seventeenth game as fast as you can and just

1138
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: to follow up on that quick. And we're anticipating that

1139
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: this seventeenth interconference matchup for all of the teams in

1140
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: the league, those are going to be strewn throughout the

1141
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: regular season schedule. It's not like there's going to be

1142
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: an interconference week or anything, right I don't think so.

1143
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: Howard Katson his magic band of the schedule makers. We'll

1144
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: go to work on that, but no, my understanding is

1145
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: it will be strewn throughout the schedule. We'll just see

1146
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: how you know, see how it is. Or as you know,

1147
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: you spend you're in New York, you you kind of

1148
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: you have a handle on the AFC East. All of

1149
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the four teams seem to be in just a hair

1150
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: different spot than each other. How do you think the

1151
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 1: afcast is going to shake out this free agent period?

1152
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned that it's interesting to think about the New

1153
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: England Patriots. Browns have money to spend, right the Brownie

1154
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: Brownie and I have taught Miami's got some some hard

1155
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: decisions to make about what they're going to do at

1156
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: quarterback and going forward. Um, how do you think it's

1157
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 1: going to shake out in the East? Well? I could

1158
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: maybe answer this question better if somebody could tell me

1159
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: is DeShawn Watson on the market exactly? I mean? And

1160
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: if he's on the market, are two of the teams

1161
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: and you just mentioned them, the Jets and the Dolphins

1162
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: in the mix for him? Um, all the reports seem

1163
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: to indicate he would like to go to the Miami Dolphins. Um,

1164
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: certainly they have the capital to trade for him, including Tuah,

1165
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: but that would mean they've given up on Tahum and

1166
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: the Jets have a ton of draft capital. Of the

1167
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: question is would they ship all of that plus you know,

1168
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: plus players away to get Deshaun Watson. So I think

1169
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: I could tell you a lot more about what the

1170
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: AFC East is going to look like in free agency

1171
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: if we knew that Deshaun Watson was you know it

1172
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: was going to be available for a trade. Let's just

1173
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: say no, that he's not going to be available for

1174
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: a trade. Obviously, the Jets have a decision to make

1175
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: at quarterback, certainly before the draft. They've they've got to

1176
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: decide what the situation is with Donald. They're looking at

1177
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: all of the available quarterbacks, so they have not made

1178
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: that decision yet. They've got a ton of other needs though,

1179
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: Let's be real, whatever whichever way they decide to go

1180
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: on Sam Donald, it was not all Sam Donald's fault

1181
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: the way last season went. There's they need they need

1182
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 1: weapons for whoever the quarterback is going to be, you know,

1183
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: So the Jets a lot of work to do. They

1184
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: do have a lot of cap space. I believe right

1185
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: now they're projected to have the second most cap space,

1186
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: behind only the Jaguars, and they've got the high draft pick,

1187
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,479
Speaker 1: so they could be a completely different looking team coming

1188
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: out of this offseason. Again, I think the Patriots are

1189
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting teams league. Why just because

1190
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: we rarely see them in dire straits. But obviously last

1191
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: season was nowhere near what the expectation is in New England.

1192
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: And they've got to make a decision at quarterback. And

1193
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: are they going to be in play for a quarterback?

1194
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: Could you know, could Jimmy Garoppolo somehow? Land back there?

1195
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: Is that what they want even you know? And the

1196
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: Bills are like sitting on top of the division, right

1197
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and and unfortunately can't be as aggressive.

1198
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, your general manager said it himself. They just

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: can't be as aggressive this year. You're not going to

1200
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: see the Stefan Diggs deal, I think this year the

1201
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: way we saw last year. But that's a mark of

1202
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: a good team, right, I mean, like you don't have

1203
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: to swing for the fence is when you've already got

1204
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: all the pieces in place. So I think you'll see

1205
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: them tinkering they're obviously gonna have to make some difficult

1206
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: decisions on the guys who are there, but you know,

1207
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to do a wholesale remake when you

1208
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: win the division. The last one for me, Judy, is

1209
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: concerning Commissioner Goodell. I believe the last time he spoke,

1210
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: he was asked about the offseason and he said, well,

1211
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to predict because I don't know when we're

1212
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: normal is going to occur again for sure, and totally

1213
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: get that. I think we can anticipate though, that some

1214
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: of the practices that were put in place because of

1215
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: the pandemic through the course of last offseason are probably

1216
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: here to stay because we know the players Association loved it.

1217
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: But what are we expecting? You know, are we? And

1218
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: again you may not be able to answer this any

1219
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: better than the commissioner, but we're expecting some things to

1220
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: stick in terms of like OTAs and stuff. They may

1221
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: continue virtually, I guess, But are we going to get

1222
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: back to normal looking training camps? Do you think or

1223
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: do we think that that still has the oh run

1224
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: up that we witnessed last year with no pads or anything. Well,

1225
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 1: I think so much of what training camp looks like

1226
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: will depend on what the off season programs look like. Now.

1227
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: The players union has already come out and said they

1228
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: would like to have They loved the way it went

1229
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: last year with no you know, off season worked on

1230
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: the field. Needless to say, the coaches they're not agree

1231
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: with that, which just wants some work on the field,

1232
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: especially for young players. You know, right the Tom Brady's

1233
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: of the world maybe don't need to be on the

1234
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: field in the off season, but the young guys do.

1235
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: So I suspect they are probably having that conversation right

1236
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: now between the league and the union about you know,

1237
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: can they meet in the middle or are they just

1238
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: going to wipe out in person workouts this offseason. I

1239
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: definitely think you're going to see more virtual meetings. I

1240
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: think those are here to stay. You know, there's there's

1241
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: it worked for everybody. Even coaches thought those those worked

1242
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: pretty well. So I think you'll see more of that.

1243
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm curious to see if they can

1244
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: strike a balance on the on field work because there's

1245
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: no question some players that the young players need on

1246
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: field work. As for what training camp is going to

1247
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: look like, look, I think they are looking at the

1248
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: injury data to see did the slow run up and

1249
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: the lack of offseason work contribute to more injuries. That's

1250
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: a question that has to be answered before you decide

1251
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: how you're going to structure training camp. Obviously, they expect

1252
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: to go back to having preseason games, and so that

1253
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: affects how you structure your training camp. But the end

1254
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: result is they think the regular season is going to

1255
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: be pretty close to normal, you know. I mean, the

1256
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: hope is that, you know, the vaccine is widely available

1257
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 1: and widely accepted, and then you can go back to

1258
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: not testing all the time and not having to do

1259
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: all the social distancing, and you can sort of have

1260
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: normal gatherings in the facility. All the things that were

1261
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: appsent last year can come back, at least in some

1262
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: modified form. But I think the hope is to get

1263
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: back to something pretty close to normal, and I suspect

1264
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: they will want to get back to something closer to

1265
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: normal for training camp too. One last thing from me.

1266
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: We saw obviously there's gonna be a couple of new

1267
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: head coaches around the National Football League this year, Dan

1268
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: Campbell and David Culley. You know how that goes for them?

1269
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: Nobody knows Robert Sala in New York. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the league is gonna look seriously, We've seen it and

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Speaker 1: it seemed to be more pronounced this season, the disc

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Speaker 1: the disc harmony, or the dissatisfaction with how difficult it

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01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: is for teams who give themselves a headstart on the

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01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: coaching search by firing their head coach during season, how

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Speaker 1: hard it is for them to get interviews done, and

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01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. While these teams are still playing

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Speaker 1: down the playoffs, plus guys like Eric b Enemy and

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: Leslie Leslie Frasier, you know, and the coordinators from Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay they can't get interviewed because they're still in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the league will at any point say, okay,

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01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: if you whenever you fire your head coach, you you're

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01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: not allowed to interview anybody until the day after the

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01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? You know? Are they going to put that off?

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: Is there any any thing on the horizon that that

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01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: might happen to make it easier. Well, that's been a

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01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: conversation for the last few years, as as the problem

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01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: with minority hiring has really surfaced over the last few years.

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: In particular, there's no question in the leak is distressed

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Speaker 1: about the numbers, the diversity numbers. They are not happy

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: with it at all. That is a question about is

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: there a way that you can say to teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't start a coaching search until the day after

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01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I talked to an owner who has

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Speaker 1: actually in bond in the diversity effort, so he is

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Speaker 1: one of the people who's thinking of everything they can

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Speaker 1: to sort of boost the chances for minority candidates. And

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Speaker 1: he said he thinks the problem with that is it's

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Speaker 1: virtually unenforceable. He thinks there would be just tampering all

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Speaker 1: over the place that you cannot say to teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: who fire their coach on January first, Okay, now got

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01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: to wait a week or you know, now you've got

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: to wait a month rather, or you know, five weeks

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: until the Super Bowl is over to even start theas like,

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01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: that's just not going to happen, Like teams are just

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: not going to wait that long. Um. They released a

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01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: diverse hiring report from Football Operations last week that showed

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01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 1: that over the last few years, teams have not been

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01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: waiting very long. I mean they get the hires in

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: even before the conference championships. Are played, so you know,

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: they're everybody's in a rush, and that's something that the

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: Rudy Rule was supposed to, you know, encourage teams to

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01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: sort of step back, cast a wider net, take your time.

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: Dan Rudy himself always preached that to his fellow owners.

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Speaker 1: But you know, there's there's a rush. You want to

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: get in there and get you know, the guy you

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: think you know that you've landed on, and you want

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: to give that person the best opportunity to hire a

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Speaker 1: good coaching staff. I don't know what the NFL is

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: going to do to solve this problem. It is a

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Speaker 1: problem that they have to go to back to work

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: on because every level they've pulled so far, it just

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten the kind of results they want. Yeah, it'd

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: be interesting to see where that goes. I know they're

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: encouraged that there are more coordinators of color that are

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Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, there were many more interviews for

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Speaker 1: minority kennidates and that's good, but it's not as Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Judy, Judy, thanks for the time. As always,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Enjoy your offseason. Hopefully life is a

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Speaker 1: little calmer than it usually is during the season. It

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Speaker 1: is good to talk to you, guys. Take care. That's

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Speaker 1: Judy Batista from NFL Network joining us here. Breaking news

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Speaker 1: in the NFL salary cap casualties are just getting rolling here, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy, linebacker for the Dolphins, has been informed

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Speaker 1: that he will be released one year into a four year,

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01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: fifty one million dollar contract and he will be out

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Speaker 1: on the street. How long do you think it'll be

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Speaker 1: before he's back in New England? Um? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: he I think it's it's that would be an obvious

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: destination for him. I don't think there's any question about that.

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Speaker 1: Books he could be. He is on the wrong side

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: of thirty. I mean, he's not a spring chicken anymore.

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Speaker 1: And you wonder, like, what is what's New England's level

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: of interest. I mean, they are getting a bunch of

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01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: opt outs coming back. You know, they're getting Dante high

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: Tower back, Patrick chungback, a bunch of quality players that

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01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: are coming back to the Fold. I'm sure they'd love

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: to have Kyle van Noy on the roster, but are

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: they what are they offering him? Is it a one

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: year deal type of thing? I mean, we know they

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01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: have money to spend I just don't know if they

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01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: spend it on a thirty one year old linebacker, you

1352
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm curious to see where that goes.

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: But this is just one small example of the kinds

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01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: of talents that are going to be thrust into the

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: free agent market because teams are trying to save in

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01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: a restrictive cap year. And he's just one example. It's

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01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be guys like Van Noy, guys on the

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Speaker 1: wrong side of thirty making a big buck that it's

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna that the club feels won't be able to live

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01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: up to the rest of that contract, or even another

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: year of that contract. So and they probably approached him.

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 1: They might have approached him and asked him to restructure,

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, that's cool. He will turn

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Speaker 1: thirty in March, just later this month, just to be fair,

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01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: so he's only turning thirty this year. But still, that's

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Speaker 1: kind of a number that, let's just say, NFL front

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 1: officers pay attention to. It's almost like thirties the new forty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's depending on where you play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think there's gonna be a lot more quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: maybe not anybody else but quarterbacks who do play deep

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Speaker 1: into their thirties and early forties. Because the league protects

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks different. Yeah, they protect him so much. And if

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Speaker 1: you go back and look at the week seventeen game

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Speaker 1: against Miami, old timers like guys that played back in

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Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies would cringe at the lack of

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: physicality that is allowed. Well, and you can you can

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: run through a myriad of roughing the pastor calls this

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01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: year that we're almost laughable. Sure, and Josh phrases, guy

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 1: grazes the quarterbacks helmet with his hand as he's flying

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01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 1: by to try to avoid contact, and he's like putting

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01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: his hands back and one of his hands grazes the

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: guy's helmet. The past right, and there was there were

1383
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,839
Speaker 1: times when Josh Alden was the beneficiary. He even embellished.

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01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: He embellished a couple of times. Um, and there's times

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01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: now and and admit it all you out there where

1386
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: it happens to your quarter your quarterback gets grazed or whatever,

1387
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: and there's no call in your you're outraged. We're all there,

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01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 1: we're all there, But I just, um, I think there

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: are going to be a lot more quarterbacks in the

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01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: coming decades who will play deep into their thirties and

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Speaker 1: early forties. Um, you know, and we've already seen one already.

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01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,440
Speaker 1: So I just because of the physicality the game has evaporated.

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: You go back and look at the week seventeen game

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: the Bills played against Miami. The Bills receivers, and I

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: know they, I know they, I could tell, I didn't

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Speaker 1: I don't know for a fact, I didn't talk to

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01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: anybody they were coached. Don't get the extra get the

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01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: extra yards and go down. Get a couple extra yards,

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01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: get it as soon as you're gonna get tackled, just

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 1: go down. They didn't take any hits. Again, it's injury.

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: Don't take any shot that you're gonna that is unnecessary.

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01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: Just catch the ball, get up field, and Dick slid

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01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: like four or five times after catches just about so

1404
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,919
Speaker 1: did so did John Brown's and so did Isa mackenzie.

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01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: They all did it, and it was it was smart move.

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01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: And but that you can say what you want about

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 1: how it makes the game look. That is what adds

1408
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: time to your career and healthy games to your career

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01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: and being available in the postseason. The most important games

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01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, break time for us. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna get some more of your comments

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet. Also have open phone lines for

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: you at eight oh three oh five fifty one, eight

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: to eight five fifty two, five fifty is we're asking

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: you where do the Bills need to make a significant

1416
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: investment in free agency? We already saw trying to do

1417
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: it on the defensive line pursuing j. J. Watt. Where

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01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: do you want to see that significant investment? Let us know,

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01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: open phones for you eight three oh five fifty Steve

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Speaker 1: and I back in a moment here on One Bills

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01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalaida Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to One Bills Live. Second half of

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: the show under way. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: as we are discussing where you'd like to see the

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01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: Bills make a significant investment in free agency. We saw

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01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 1: them pursue JJ Watt, which would have been a significant

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01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: investment even if they got him at lesser money than

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: he signed for with the Cardinals. So it at least

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01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: demonstrates that despite a restrictive cap, if the right person

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01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: comes free, the Bills are willing to make a significant investment.

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01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: Where would you like to see that happen on Buffalo's roster?

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01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: Eight three fifty one fifty two five fifty the number

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01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: to get on board. Open line for you there, or

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01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: he can hit us up on the tweet sheet at

1435
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: one bills live. And so we go to Jack on

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet Steve, and he says, tight end and

1437
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 1: pass rush. I hope they can resign Feliciano and Williams

1438
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: to keep the line mostly intact, but they need another

1439
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: weapon at tight end to give them a two headed

1440
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: nightmare with Knox. I like John hu Smith, but open

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01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 1: to others. Melvin Ingram would be a nice addition opposite

1442
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes to get more pass rush. Melvin Ingram, the

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: thirty two year old pass rusher who will become a

1444
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: free agent from the Chargers. Does Melvin ingramartickle your funny

1445
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: bone at all? Or no? Yeah, he can go. I

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01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: like him, but I don't know how you're gonna fit

1447
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: him in. Yeah, I mean he would certainly command less

1448
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: at his age. Listen all the guys on this list

1449
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: that we're looking at, from Shaquille Barrett through Jadevan Clowney

1450
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: and got Way, Carl Lawson, Bud Dupree all the way

1451
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: down to Trey Hendrickson from New Orleans, Matthew jude On.

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01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: All of those guys will help you. Can you fit

1453
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: him in? Are they the right kind of guy? Can

1454
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: you pay him right? That's the question. They'll all help you.

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: They'll all be good players, but well, can you fit

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01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: him under the cap? And I don't take your pay.

1457
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's reasons plus a minus and a couple

1458
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: of minuses on a couple of them because they're off

1459
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: the field issues and all that, and you know, but

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01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: with the production on the field, all of them are

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01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: going to help you. Which one fits best? And can

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01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: you afford? Melvin Ingram will be affordable, I believe because

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: Number one, it'll be his age thirty two season here

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01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Number two, he's coming off a

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: season where he was only available for seven games, had injuries,

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01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: and had no sacks. I think he is a prime

1467
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: candidate for one of those one year prove a type deals.

1468
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: Now he might be looking for more than that because

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: I think you know, is going into his age thirty

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01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 1: three season, he'll probably have even fewer suitors next year.

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01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: But even unless he blows it up this year. But

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Speaker 1: even so, if he comes to a team where he

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01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: can actually do it, he gets on with Jerry Hughes

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01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: and gets opposite him, and he busts it out and

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: has twelve sacks to say, on a one year prove

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: it deal for six million bucks, he knows next year

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Speaker 1: when the cap skyrockets, there's gonna be a team out

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Speaker 1: there and say, well, we'll give you ten million for

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Speaker 1: one year. Yeah, you know. So then in essence, you know,

1480
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: signed a two year, seven and a half million, seven

1481
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars contract, right, he just had

1482
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: to prove it on average, Yeah, on average. So that's

1483
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: got a chance if you can get a guy with

1484
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: that mindset who says, I know the CAP's going up.

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01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: It did drop thirty million this year, it's gonna go

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01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: up sixty next year or twenty five next year. Now,

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: let's now, let's flip it around and look look at

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01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: it from the bill's perspective. It is a risk. You've

1489
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 1: got a guy that's coming off an injury season, but

1490
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: for the most part, prior to that, played in all

1491
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: sixteen games as a starter for four of the last

1492
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: five years prior to last season, thirteen total games in

1493
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen seven last year. Is that a signal that

1494
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: it's a greater risk because of his lack of availability

1495
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: to the last two seasons. I don't know. Maybe it

1496
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: is has only had two double digit sack seasons his

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01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: whole career, So I think he's an affordable guy if

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 1: you think he's an upgrade. But here's the interesting thing,

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01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: because you've got Mario Addison only in the second year

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01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: of a three year deal, entering his age thirty four

1501
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: season in the fall, got Jerry Hughes, who I think

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01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: I want to say he turns. He turns thirty three

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01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: this year. So you've got two guys that you know

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: are are going to be thirty three years or older. Well,

1505
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 1: he'll be thirty three in August, so before the opener

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01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: he'll be thirty three and Addison will be thirty four.

1507
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: Do you feel you need to get significantly younger there

1508
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: in the form of a twenty eight year old veteran

1509
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: or do you go one year deal route and say

1510
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: I think we can catch lightning in a bottle with

1511
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram. That's a tough decision. Yeah, well it all depends.

1512
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: You would say younger, but in your restrictive cap position,

1513
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: you may not be able to do that, right. I

1514
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,919
Speaker 1: think if you want a guy that's going to contribute

1515
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: right away, I think you automatically look at a veteran guy. Yeah,

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that Melvin Ingram

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01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: would be the best guy on that list. If you're

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01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: gonna go down the list and say, hey, this guy's

1519
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: better than that guy, and here's all the guys available,

1520
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: you would take a twenty seven year old Trey Hendrickson

1521
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: in a second, But I don't know if you're gonna

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01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: be able to afford him. That's right, That's exactly right.

1523
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm with you on that. All of those

1524
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: guys are going to help you. But the question is

1525
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: can you sign him to a deal that they're going

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01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 1: to outperform? That's that's the that's the sixty four dollars question.

1527
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: Which guys on your roster gonna outperform? Certainly you got

1528
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: an I'll give you an example. Josh Allen outperformed. He's

1529
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: on his rookie deal, and he's got a market value

1530
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: right now forty plus million dollars a year. According a

1531
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 1: spot track forty million a year and he's making what

1532
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: seven yeah? I mean Jordan Phillips did it two years ago.

1533
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips did one year, one nine and a half sets,

1534
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: and he had a sixteen tackles for a loss and

1535
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: they were paying him what four yeah, something more and

1536
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 1: a half. So that's that is the holy grail of

1537
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: building a roster in the NFL. You got to get

1538
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: guys that are motivated and capable of playing better than

1539
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: the number on their than the paycheck they're getting every week.

1540
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: And that's hard to do for fifty or sixty guys.

1541
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 1: It's hard to hit on those guys year after year

1542
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 1: after year because you're rolling the dice. Every year you're

1543
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 1: rolling the dice. You're you're trying to stay cap strong,

1544
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: which makes sense, but at the same time, you're rolling

1545
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: the dice that the mix is going to work again,

1546
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,560
Speaker 1: or that this one year deal guy this year is

1547
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: going to hit like the guy did last year, and

1548
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: that always that doesn't always come to fruition. Nick t

1549
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 1: on the tweet Sheet says we have to invest in

1550
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: the offensive and defensive lines because Tampa showed the Kansas

1551
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: City can be beaten by dominant play upfront. With our

1552
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: underperforming D line and all the free agents we're losing

1553
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: on the old line, we'll need to bolster both if

1554
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: we want to continue to contend. I agree fifty ways

1555
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: to Sunday with Nick. Nick just encapsulated our last two

1556
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: weeks to show the talk out in two sentences true,

1557
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 1: which wouldn't be good for us. Our offensive Our offensive

1558
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:49,839
Speaker 1: line is now more important than ever because you actually

1559
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: got a guy back there that can win every week

1560
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: if you protect him. That's where it starts. Your your

1561
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: skill positions are paid for their set for the next

1562
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: handful of years. You've got to get guys up in

1563
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: front of even if it means I don't care at

1564
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: this point, it's more important for me. Leave the defense alone. Fine,

1565
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,799
Speaker 1: put Delshan Phillips in there, don't try to replace Matt Milano,

1566
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: don't resign him. But you've got to find off five

1567
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: offensive linemen that can play very well ahead of the

1568
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: guy that the whole thing revolves around. That's Josh. That's

1569
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: where it all starts and finishes for me. And then

1570
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's gonna have to be that way

1571
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: a year after year after year after year, but right now,

1572
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: that's where you sit. And then on the defensive side,

1573
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: you know, Nick makes the point about Tampa showed how

1574
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: Kansas City can be beaten by dominant play up front.

1575
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: They had two He's right quality pass rushers on the edges,

1576
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: and they had a couple of monsters inside. Can the

1577
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: Bills put all that together in one off season with

1578
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 1: a restrictive cap and shuffle the deck around to a

1579
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: point where they feel they're demonstrably better in terms of

1580
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: fulfilling their core philosophy of being able to get consistent

1581
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback just rushing four. That is the

1582
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: conundrum that this team faces. The most important problem that

1583
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: they face on the defensive side of the ball is

1584
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: that can they find a new formula that gets pressure

1585
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: more effectively just rushing their front four? And then on offense,

1586
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: as Steve stated, can you reconstitute the offensive line? Know

1587
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: when you have five players whose contracts are up on

1588
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: your current roster where you can still effectively protect Josh

1589
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Allen so he can perform at an MVP level Job

1590
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 1: one and two this offseason for this football team, I

1591
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about it. We have to

1592
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 1: take a break when we come back more of your

1593
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: comments from the tweet sheet, and don't forget. In about

1594
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, we will get one Marcellus Wiley on the

1595
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: show for the third hour of the program. Be good

1596
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: to catch up with wild Style, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: Back in a moment here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as

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01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,959
Speaker 1: we are discussing where the Bills make a significant investment

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01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: in free agency. We want to know where you'd like

1602
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: to see them do that. After the pursuit of J. J. Watt,

1603
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: I think there's at least indication that the Bills, if

1604
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: the right person comes free on the market, that they

1605
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: would take a swing. So where do you want him swinging.

1606
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: We welcome your comments on the tweet sheet at one

1607
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: Bills Live, or we'll take your phone calls at eight

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01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: five fifty and on the tweet sheet. Steve I thought

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: this was an interesting one from Louis. He's back on

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01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: the lines, but in a different way. He's saying, run blocking,

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01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: give Motor and Moss the best chance to succeed. Don't

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 1: move on from our backs who bring in more options

1613
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: upgrade the run blocking. So this goes right back to

1614
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Steve and I in the last segment,

1615
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about how important it is to protect your

1616
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 1: MVP caliber quarterback and that you have to invest there

1617
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: either with your own free agents or with guys on

1618
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: the market. But what about the run blocking up there?

1619
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: We're kind of beating a dead horse because right now

1620
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: the only positional emergency that the Bills have is the

1621
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: offensive line. They got God, they don't have enough guys

1622
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,679
Speaker 1: to play. And you know, it's a thirteen win season

1623
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 1: where you don't now your offensive lines out, so you

1624
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 1: know how many how much does that cost you when

1625
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: you got the guy that makes the whole thing go,

1626
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,520
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Depending on those guys, it's a positional emergency

1627
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: right now. It won't stay that way. I mean, Brandon

1628
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: Bean knows it, can see it as well as anybody.

1629
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: But they got four free agents and one restricted free

1630
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: agent on their offensive line of the eight guys they

1631
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: kept up on game day this last season, that's to

1632
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 1: me is a positional emergency. They got to address spinning. Yeah,

1633
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: at that position, they've got to They got to address

1634
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,759
Speaker 1: that job one before they do anything else, and they will.

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01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Whether it's before anything else, I don't know, because they've

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01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: got time to do all of this. But they've got

1637
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Daryl Williams, Tye n Secki, Brian Winters, and John Feliciano,

1638
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: all are as of now, not under contract. I Butcker

1639
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 1: is a restricted free agent. The only guys that they've got.

1640
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 1: You know, they do have six guys on the roster,

1641
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: of which two of which Jordan Devi and Trey Adams

1642
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 1: they resigned. Most Bills fans probably barely know who they are.

1643
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Then they've got Ryan Bates, Cody Ford, Mitch Morrison, Dion Dockins.

1644
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 1: So they got four guys with NFL experience on their

1645
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: roster that can play, and two guys that are on

1646
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: that are on future reserve contract. And as we mentioned yesterday,

1647
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: sure there is the possibility that the Bills go to

1648
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: some players with high cap figures and see if they

1649
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: would be willing to restructure. Mitch Morris looks like a

1650
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: perfect candidate for something like that. You know, put some

1651
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 1: extra guaranteed money in his pocket now as bonus to

1652
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: amortize that amount over the life of his deal, which

1653
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: still has two years left on it. That's one way

1654
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: to alleviate and create more cap space. Steve mentioned yesterday

1655
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Aldredavious White and Dion Dawkins in their contract extensions, have

1656
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: a team option which would provide more cap space in

1657
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one to the tune of total of fourteen

1658
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: million dollars if they exercise the options on both of

1659
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: those contracts to create cap space too. I would anticipate

1660
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: that happens in short order, certainly before March seventeenth, and

1661
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: that combined with some restructures, and maybe you have to

1662
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: make a difficult decision and lop somebody off the roster

1663
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: with a high cap figure two to create the financial

1664
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: maneuverability to at least do a couple of things to

1665
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 1: refortify your roster with free agents that you have. Right,

1666
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 1: that's how it's got to go. That's right. Um. And

1667
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills are one of you know, fourteen thirteen, twelve,

1668
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: ten somewhere in there teams that have to do this

1669
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,680
Speaker 1: all this, and we're seeing it already. Yeah, I mean,

1670
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy's the Dolphins have more cap room than

1671
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 1: the Bills, and they're already lopping people off the roster.

1672
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: And I think they're doing that because you know, they

1673
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: got a guy who had what five sacks like they

1674
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 1: paid him, you know, three million dollars a sack last year.

1675
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly right, playing in a system he

1676
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: knew all too well, coming from New England to Miami.

1677
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Flores essentially runs a similar defensive scheme

1678
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: and the proof was not in the pudding there. And

1679
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: one year into a four year, fifty one million dollar

1680
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: contract for Kyle van Noys is going to be out

1681
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 1: on the street. I'm sure he's happy he's out on

1682
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 1: the street now because he's not really competing with gobs

1683
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 1: of other linebackers. And it would be kind of a

1684
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: way well true because but it would behoove him and

1685
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: his agent to find a landing spot sooner rather than later,

1686
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: because it's easier to find a landing spot before the

1687
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: market's open than after, right, So be interesting to see

1688
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: where he goes break time for us. But when we return,

1689
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: it is former Bills Defensive and mars sell Us Wiley

1690
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna join us for our number three of the program.

1691
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the JJ Watt deal. One

1692
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: pass rusher to another interesting to see what he thinks

1693
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: about that, and we'll cover some other ground with him

1694
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 1: in this NFL offseason as well. When we return here

1695
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,599
Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo

1696
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio, Balo Bill's Radio Network. Sports Date, your sports

1697
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: update from One Bill's Drive. The new TV deals could

1698
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: be done and announced by the NFL later this week

1699
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: or early next week. Per report from John Alorando, the

1700
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 1: Sports Business Journal, per hour end deals with CBS NBA

1701
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: see our quote virtually done. The league wants to get

1702
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: the new deals in plays before officially adopting a seventeenth

1703
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: regular season game for twenty twenty one and beyond. Also,

1704
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 1: it's not believed that the new deals will have a

1705
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: major impact, if any, on the twenty twenty one salary cap.

1706
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Jason Lockhanfora broke down all the big names

1707
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: who could be traded during this NFL offseason. Arguably, the

1708
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Patriots best player made the list, as Lochhanfora wrote a

1709
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,639
Speaker 1: trade of cornerbacks to fond Gilmore. He thinks it seems

1710
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 1: to be a matter of when, not if. Most gms

1711
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: have considered it a foregone conclusion that the Patriots would

1712
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:35,840
Speaker 1: trade the top corner this offseason, and he says he

1713
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 1: hasn't heard anything about a contract extension, so a trade

1714
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: seems like an eventuality. Following a restructure of his contract

1715
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 1: last season, Gilmour will be making just seven million dollars

1716
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: in base salary for twenty twenty one. Atlanta Hawks coach

1717
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Lloyd Piers fired on Monday, given the hook less than

1718
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 1: halfway into a season that carried heightened expectations before being

1719
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: hampered by injuries. Assistant Nam McMillan will serve as the

1720
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 1: team's interim coach and the Buffalo Sabers backhead of tonight

1721
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 1: when they take on the Rangers in New York. Tonight's

1722
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: game kicks off five straight road games for the Sabers

1723
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo coming off back to back shutout losses to the

1724
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: Flyers this past weekend. That is your sports update from

1725
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here with you

1726
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: for our number three of the program and joining us

1727
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: here in the third hour of the program, former Bill's

1728
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Defensive End, host of FS one Speak for Yourself with

1729
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: One Emmanuel Acho and author of the book Never Shut

1730
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 1: Up The Life's opinions and Unexpected Adventures of an NFL

1731
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 1: outlider is the man we know as wild Style. It

1732
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 1: is one Marcellis Wiley. Marcellis how you doing? Man? What's shaking? Oh?

1733
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: A little mouse stow? Now, man, you guys, you're doing good.

1734
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 1: We're doing good. So from one defensive end to another,

1735
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: just give me your initial thoughts on the JJ Watt

1736
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 1: deal yesterday, um for the destination Arizona and second the

1737
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for a thirty two year old. Yes, it's interesting.

1738
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: When I saw the move, I wasn't as surprised as

1739
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:17,960
Speaker 1: the reaction was. A lot of times players, especially in

1740
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 1: the latter stages of their career, people assume that they're

1741
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: just chasing a ring. And even though that's true for

1742
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, there are also a lot of

1743
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: guys who want to chase an opportunity, and that opportunity

1744
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 1: is so great in terms of the money, in terms

1745
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: of the compensation, in terms of how they're still going

1746
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: to respect you like the other team did that that

1747
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 1: becomes as important as chasing that ring. I think it's

1748
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: really a culmination of all the things that you look

1749
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: for when you're talking about a future destination Arizona. Is

1750
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 1: a sneaky team. They're scary because this is an eight

1751
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 1: and eighteen that had some good times, especially starting off

1752
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: the season what six and two, and having to be

1753
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: a tough out in that division that they play in,

1754
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: which is a very tough division. So if you're JJ Watt,

1755
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: you're sitting there thinking, I don't want to just look

1756
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,599
Speaker 1: like I'm chasing money, but I do want to get paid.

1757
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: His production in sacks has dropped, but in terms of

1758
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:19,680
Speaker 1: him still putting pressure on the quarterbacks, especially tackles for

1759
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 1: loss in the backfield, JJ Watt is still a monster

1760
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: to deal with. Obviously, he's not as explosive as he

1761
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: once was, but in terms of him being smart at

1762
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 1: the position, him still having the handcraft to beat a

1763
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:36,719
Speaker 1: one on one block, he's still a top notch pass

1764
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 1: rusher and defenders. So I wasn't as shocked as everyone else.

1765
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: And I remind people that the Tampa Bay Bucks, they

1766
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: were seven to nineteen, they got their quarterback, all of

1767
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, they won their Super Bowl. Let's see the

1768
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: maturity of a Kyle Murray. Also, with a defense that's

1769
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 1: loaded with a JJ Watt, maybe they could make some noise.

1770
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: What will JJ have to do to live up to

1771
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: fifteen point five a year on the field. He has

1772
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: to do a lot off the field. His presence alone

1773
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 1: already sparked interests, and you can see how the fan

1774
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: base is electrified and they're excited because last year they

1775
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 1: had huge expectations. They started off fast and then they

1776
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: faltered down the stretch. Now you see a team that's

1777
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: going to be box office in terms of attraction, in

1778
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: terms of being a destination. But now you got to

1779
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: back that up with actual performance. JJ Watt. It's so funny, man.

1780
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,919
Speaker 1: When you're a pass rusher, the first thing that goes

1781
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: is you lose that engine, that six gear, so you're

1782
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: not as the same guy in terms of explosiveness and burst.

1783
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 1: But then once you get over thirty, no matter how

1784
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: well you're playing, people are just holding their breath for

1785
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 1: you to decline. His sacks were down. Five sacks is

1786
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: not jj Watt production. However, he had the second fewest

1787
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,679
Speaker 1: past rush attempts in his career for the For those

1788
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 1: out there don't know what that means. Basically, they were

1789
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 1: getting beat up so many times a team for running

1790
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 1: the ball against him, more or so than passing the

1791
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 1: ball against him, and he didn't have the same amount

1792
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,639
Speaker 1: of opportunities to get those same sacks. So this could

1793
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,599
Speaker 1: be a year where he could break through once again

1794
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: and show us the old JJ. Watch what is and

1795
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,400
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was at two different times in

1796
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: respective careers. He's going to his second NFL club as

1797
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: a thirty two year old. You did it in the

1798
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: prime of your career going out to San Diego, but

1799
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: you still had expectations to live up too. Obviously you

1800
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 1: came through. I think he had twelve and a half

1801
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: sacks your first year in San Diego, went to the

1802
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl thirteen. Sorry but look, but seriously, like, maybe

1803
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: just explain the level of pressure that's involved when you

1804
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: go to a new team with the big money deal.

1805
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 1: You got to come through on that. Now. I know

1806
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: JJ comes with a lot more cashe having been a

1807
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 1: three time Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, you

1808
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,760
Speaker 1: didn't have all of that on your resume yet, but

1809
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 1: just maybe outline the level of pressure involved to live

1810
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: up to that kind of a deal. Yes, crazy man

1811
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 1: of me, I had two pressure field years in terms

1812
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 1: of expectations. The first year it was in Buffalo actually,

1813
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 1: when they released Bruce Smith, find Harry Reid Thurman, Thomas

1814
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Hall on the same day. And here I am a

1815
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 1: fourth year player but never been a starter, and now

1816
01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 1: it's my position, and it's the position that was held

1817
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: by Bruce Smith. And then I go into camp and

1818
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: I have a back surgery and I can't even walk

1819
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: in training camp, let alone play the defensive the end

1820
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 1: position and take over for a Bruce Smith like the

1821
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: best ever to do it. So that was pressure field.

1822
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 1: But I I came through that year, had my ten

1823
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, and then I go to San

1824
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Diego where they have junior say out Rodney Harrison, and

1825
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: here I come one year as a starter, and I'm

1826
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: making more money than all of the other great players

1827
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 1: on that team. And besides the jokes, because they laugh

1828
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 1: at you all the time, they call you big money

1829
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,719
Speaker 1: and they make you pay all the bills and tabs

1830
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: everywhere you go, besides the laughter that comes from that

1831
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: is a serious undertone of Hey, you made this money,

1832
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: Now earn this money. And I think the greatest thing

1833
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: about it at all that you have to remember is

1834
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: whatever got you here is gonna get you there. What

1835
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: does that mean? The belief in yourself and your performance

1836
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 1: is why you were paid that much to JJ Watt,

1837
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: So it's still in you now. All you have to

1838
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 1: do is bring it out, and circumstances do play a part.

1839
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Like I said last year, he just wasn't given the

1840
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 1: same amount of opportunities for us the passer. And when

1841
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: you're that old and already been injury prone, and then

1842
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they see that big stat of

1843
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:50,640
Speaker 1: sacks go down, then everyone starts to cave in on you.

1844
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: But JJ Watch still has a lot of football I

1845
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 1: think left in them, and he can go out there

1846
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: in surprise of many. We just saw Kyle van Noy

1847
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: released by the Dolphins about a fifteen twenty minutes ago.

1848
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 1: A guy just last year signed a fifty one million

1849
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,799
Speaker 1: dollars four year deal. He gets kicked to the curb.

1850
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 1: The CAP's gonna get chopped by thirty million dollars instead

1851
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: of going up as we usually see it. There's gonna

1852
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: be a ton of really good football players out on

1853
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: the street, and it's happening right now with JJ Wat

1854
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noid. There's gonna be others that follow. How

1855
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: do you think this is gonna play out in the

1856
01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: big picture for the NFL, not only this year going

1857
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: forward with a smaller cap, but maybe next year when

1858
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: it bounces back. Yeah, that's interesting, man. It's a crazy

1859
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 1: time to be a player, crazier time to be an

1860
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: agent because everyone's living off these projections. Then it's affecting

1861
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people. We talked about JJ Watton, his

1862
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: future Captain America is now out of Houston and it

1863
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 1: is in Arizona. You talk about Van Noid. Let's talk

1864
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott, a guy whose deal is still up

1865
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,520
Speaker 1: in the air in part because of these same projections

1866
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: going back to last year. Dak wanted to match his

1867
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: deal with the TV deal and with the CBA and

1868
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones being a smart business man and doesn't want

1869
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 1: it to match up with that because obviously he'll be

1870
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: right back at the negotiating table before you blink and

1871
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: getting more money. So it's crazy how it's all playing

1872
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 1: out right now. But the thing that you gotta hold

1873
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: if you're one of those type of players is to

1874
01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: playing performance card, which is I am a baller. No

1875
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: matter where I go, I can have impact, and I

1876
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 1: think it all works itself out once you're one of

1877
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: those players that can provide impacts. So as we played

1878
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 1: the game before, Steve, you know how it goes. Man.

1879
01:42:37,760 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: They're always looking for the better, younger, stronger, faster, cheaper

1880
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: version of you. I remember when I got paid the

1881
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:50,520
Speaker 1: first time. Everyone kept coming up to me and saying congratulations,

1882
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: while he you know, they're upstairs trying to figure out

1883
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 1: how to get that money back right now. So it's

1884
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: the way the game goes. It's the nature of the beach.

1885
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: But if you're a baller, you'll find a home and

1886
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: they'll take care of you. I just wonder, Marcellus, when

1887
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: you think about the free agency this year, the great

1888
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: anticipation is there's going to be this glut of talent

1889
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,320
Speaker 1: thrust into the market with all these teams trying to

1890
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: navigate this restrictive cap, and everybody's predicting this buyer's market.

1891
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: After the initial wave, you know, the top guys are

1892
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 1: gonna get their money in week one, we all know that.

1893
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: But after that the market has a has a real

1894
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: likelihood of softening in a hurry, where some guys who

1895
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: right now have contracts for eight or ten million a

1896
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: year are gonna get clipped and they may have to

1897
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 1: play on a one year deal. In the fall for

1898
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 1: maybe half that and hope they can bet on themselves

1899
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 1: and succeed with some of the circumstances that you've outlined

1900
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 1: for JJ, you know, it's a matter of circumstance. You

1901
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 1: gotta hope bet on you and hope you get the

1902
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 1: opportunities to maximize your values so when you go back

1903
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 1: into the market next year, you can swing big when

1904
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,800
Speaker 1: the gets more in line with where it should be.

1905
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: So how unnerving is that going to be for some

1906
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: of these vets, you know, going out into the market

1907
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: and having to prove it on a one year deal.

1908
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Probably in some cases, Yeah, you touched on a lot there. Man.

1909
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 1: It takes me to some examples of real estate, and

1910
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: in terms of when do you sell your house? You

1911
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: know that you have equity in it, you know that

1912
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: you love it, but at the same time, when do

1913
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 1: you sell as the buyer's market is a seller's market.

1914
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: And the biggest difference between being a professional athlete and

1915
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: selling your home is you have a finite shelf life.

1916
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 1: When you're an athlete, you can even play for so long.

1917
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: You can live in that house as long as you

1918
01:44:37,439 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: want to, and it's just about right now. Those circumstances,

1919
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you highlighted that because I think a

1920
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of fans don't understand the devil in the details

1921
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 1: of being a professional athlete. So to personalize it once again,

1922
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 1: part of my decline was just lack of performance. Part

1923
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 1: of my decline was also injuries. Part of my decline. Also,

1924
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: hey you got rid of Junior say out Rodney Harrison,

1925
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 1: John Parrella all in the same year. It's like, now

1926
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: all of that tension starts to focus in on one

1927
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: person instead of a collective, and therefore it's that much

1928
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: more difficult to be the guy. And JJ Watt had

1929
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: to experience that as well, when you start to see

1930
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 1: a team not ran properly and they're starting to lose

1931
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 1: pieces around them, especially when you look at a four

1932
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: and twelve team. Being a pass rush on a four

1933
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 1: and twelve team is not something most guys sign up

1934
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: for us. I mean, you talk about third and fourth

1935
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 1: quarters is nothing but run defense basically. So it's crazy

1936
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: to have to bet on yourself in this moment, but

1937
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 1: it always levels itself out if you can endure the process.

1938
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is I remember talking to

1939
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: Bruce a bunch of times. And the only reason I

1940
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 1: got more money than Bruce was my birth certificate circumstances.

1941
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: I was just a younger version and cheaper version and

1942
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 1: half as good as him. But that turns into more money.

1943
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: And it's gonna work that way for these guys if

1944
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: they can perform on short deals as well, because when

1945
01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 1: the CBA bumps back up, when the TV deals are finalized,

1946
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 1: my goodness, they're gonna be looking for guys to throw

1947
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 1: money at. And we've seen that in years past. It's

1948
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 1: just right now. It's a downward cycle more than likely

1949
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 1: for the masses. But the top echelon guys always survived this,

1950
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 1: and then going forward a year or two, you'll see

1951
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: the middle class garing to survive and thrive as well.

1952
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:39,919
Speaker 1: You came out of Compton, California, and went to Columbia University,

1953
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: end up in Buffalo, three pretty varied destinations in your life.

1954
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: What do you remember about your time in Buffalo? You're

1955
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: here for four years, and when you got out of

1956
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: your rookie contract, you were a highly sought after free

1957
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: agent yourself. How do you what do you remember about

1958
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: your time here in Buffalo? Oh? Man, it was just

1959
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 1: so focused on football like everyone had their priorities in

1960
01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: order being a Buffalo Bill. It was just great fanfare,

1961
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 1: Like I remember one I remember having a Regal Cinema

1962
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: card that they gave all the Buffalo Bills players and

1963
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: we used to go to the movies like every single week.

1964
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,559
Speaker 1: That was amazing. I remember how it was like this

1965
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: big city that felt like a small family. Like everywhere

1966
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 1: you went, people showed you a proper respect, but they

1967
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 1: also showed you a reverence like you're a Buffalo Bill.

1968
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: And it was just a great introduction to the NFL,

1969
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 1: A story franchise with a huge fan base and that

1970
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: they prioritized football. I remember being around guys like you,

1971
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: Steven and like I said, Bruce Andre Thurman, and just

1972
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:48,679
Speaker 1: seeing living legends of the game and getting to watch

1973
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: you guys even when you weren't having direct contact. Just

1974
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: the osmosis of learning how this guy became so great

1975
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: and what he does to take care of himself on

1976
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,519
Speaker 1: the field and off the So the greatest experience was

1977
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 1: just like I went to a graduate school of greatness

1978
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: in terms of football as this focus. So Buffalo was

1979
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,000
Speaker 1: amazing to me. The first winner slapped me in the face.

1980
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 1: It hit me hard. Other than that, I really enjoyed

1981
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: everything about it. I am going to relay two stories,

1982
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: one that you told me and the other that I

1983
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 1: witnessed in the locker room. I'm gonna see if you

1984
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 1: remember this, Okay, So first one, we were asking you,

1985
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: as a young player, you know what you try to

1986
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 1: learn from Bruce, and you know, you talk about conversations

1987
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,400
Speaker 1: that you had with him and little tips that you

1988
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: tried to pick up. And then someone tried to follow

1989
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: up with a question saying, well, what about mimicking what

1990
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: he does? And you said, and I'm paraphrasing here, but

1991
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,640
Speaker 1: you basically said, we watched Bruce kind of bend the

1992
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: edge and he contorts his body in a way that

1993
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: I said, oh, let me try to do that. And

1994
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 1: you said, you tried to do it three times in

1995
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 1: a row, and every single time you fell down. Do

1996
01:48:56,640 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: you remember talking about that? Oh my god, I remember

1997
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 1: talking about I remember going through it, I remember trying it.

1998
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 1: I remember like the days. The first time I saw

1999
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith pass rush in practice. He had on a hat,

2000
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: a buffalo bill's hat. He had on some gray sweats,

2001
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: and his legs were crossed, just standing looking at us

2002
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 1: like He basically looked like your dad showed up the

2003
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: practice because we were all in full gear and he

2004
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 1: was just sitting there like pops. And I was like,

2005
01:49:25,560 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: I know, he's Bruce Smith, so he's taking it like

2006
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: taking it easy. And I think finally Marv Leaves like, hey, Bruce,

2007
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna give us a rep. He was like, yeah,

2008
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,320
Speaker 1: took his hat off, put his helmet on. He's still

2009
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:38,280
Speaker 1: not in full pats and everyone else is, and he

2010
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: did that ventist white move and it's I swear it

2011
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 1: looked like he was jogging. I swear it looked like

2012
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't being intense and it worked to perfection. And

2013
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: I just used to look at him in Marvel, like

2014
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 1: his hip band, his contortion. I used to think of

2015
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 1: him as like a rubber band man, like he could

2016
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: just flex and places ways that no one else could.

2017
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: And so I quickly came to realize that that's why

2018
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: he was the number one overall Piggy, that's why he's

2019
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith. And it's okay, you can't do that, but

2020
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,639
Speaker 1: there's something in my game that he may look at

2021
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: and say, hey, I don't even try that. And I

2022
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: was more of a power rusher than Bruce Smith, and

2023
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: I got labeled as Bruce Smith, who was more of

2024
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: a speed quickness, the looser rusher. Yeah, I should have

2025
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:28,639
Speaker 1: just thrown that label off me quickly because then I'll

2026
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 1: probably still be playing because they would have thought of

2027
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: me as a run stopper. But point being, Bruce Smith

2028
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 1: is in the class by itself, and I still say

2029
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: it to this day, the greatest pass rusher ever seen.

2030
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 1: Now here's the second one. Okay, it's your rookie year,

2031
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,680
Speaker 1: and the fifty three man roster has just been established,

2032
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 1: so it's like early September. It's not weak one yet,

2033
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 1: and you guys are in the locker room and Pat

2034
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: Williams makes the team as an undrafted rookie. Okay, Pat decides.

2035
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Pat decides in the locker room. This is what the

2036
01:50:57,120 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: media in the locker room, by the way, you know,

2037
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:02,320
Speaker 1: just doing our normal stuff. And Pat decides he's gonna

2038
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: start chirping at Ted Washington, okay from across the locker room.

2039
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Still a rookie here, Okay, Hazing still exists, as you know.

2040
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: So Pat doesn't stop talking. He's chirp and chirp and

2041
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: chirp and chirping. I think he's got his jockey shorts

2042
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: on and not much else, in a towel over his shoulder.

2043
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: He turns his head away and in about the blink

2044
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 1: of an eye, Ted Washington is across the locker room

2045
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,760
Speaker 1: with a roll of medical tape and he's got Pat

2046
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: on the ground, flat on his stomach, and he's hog

2047
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 1: tieing him in about ten seconds, and Pat is screaming

2048
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: across the locker room for you to help him. Do

2049
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 1: you remember this? Oh yeah, I remember this. Keep going

2050
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 1: if you want me to tell me, finish it up

2051
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: for us, Marcellus, because you didn't help him, and Pat's chirping, like, look,

2052
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 1: I was like Pat. See, Pat and Ted had this

2053
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,040
Speaker 1: great relationship because Pat was like a mini version of

2054
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 1: Tad and he wanted to be Ted and I got

2055
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 1: it like I wanted to be brooms. So we had

2056
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 1: our family relationships. But I wasn't about to cross family lines,

2057
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 1: especially with Mount Washington. So I'm laughing because Pat would

2058
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 1: say stuff to Ted that others couldn't get away with.

2059
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: But even Ted would stop him at a certain point.

2060
01:52:15,360 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 1: I ain't Pat, like, calm down, and that day I

2061
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: remember Pat, like you said, getting tied up I remember

2062
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: him getting the baby powder thrown on him with the

2063
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 1: baby oil. I remember him throwing him in the hot tub.

2064
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 1: I remember him duct taping him to the goal post,

2065
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, Okay, pass my roommates, so I

2066
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna hear about this later if i don't

2067
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,680
Speaker 1: jump in and help him. But I'd rather deal with

2068
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: the hell of Pat in a room one on one

2069
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: than Ted Washington in the locker room that time, because

2070
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:52,519
Speaker 1: that was the biggest, strongest dude and the nicest cat

2071
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 1: you ever can meet. But man, that day was hilarious.

2072
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: I tell that story a lot because it's just a

2073
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 1: different world now when we played, and you can't get

2074
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,560
Speaker 1: away with that stuff right now. But that was a

2075
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 1: write of passage back then in Pat. Pat went through it, man,

2076
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: he went through the fire. But that was the fastest

2077
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:13,160
Speaker 1: I have ever seen a three hundred and fifteen pound

2078
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 1: man subdued in my entire life. And I don't think

2079
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: it'll ever be topped, because I'm telling you, I told

2080
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: Steve this the other day right here on the show.

2081
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: A three hundred and eighty pound man moved that quick

2082
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 1: across the locker room in the blink of an eye.

2083
01:53:25,560 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: And then subdue a three hundred and fifteen pound man

2084
01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: in the span of about fifteen seconds. Yeah, it was unreal, man.

2085
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 1: How about this. I remember one day Jamie Nails was

2086
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 1: talking and Ted looked at him, and remember how big

2087
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 1: Nails got Nails four nineteen. I remember one day Jamie

2088
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,120
Speaker 1: had to weigh himself and I was like, I have

2089
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: to see this because he's just gotten big. And I

2090
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 1: remember looking and I, first of all, it blew my

2091
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,000
Speaker 1: mind that a scale even had a four digit in

2092
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: the front right, but it went four one nine. I

2093
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 1: was like, damn him and as big as Nails was,

2094
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 1: because I had to go against him every single day,

2095
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: so I felt that pain. He never messed with Ted.

2096
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:10,719
Speaker 1: No one we knew messed with Ted except Pat because

2097
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 1: Pat wanted to be Ted, and I found out the

2098
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: hard way. I've said it a hundred times, said to

2099
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 1: people who had Ted Washington was one of the most

2100
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,600
Speaker 1: unique athletes I have ever witnessed. He is, He was

2101
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: phenomenally he had He's a Hall of Famer in my

2102
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 1: book because he played for forever. Every defense he was

2103
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 1: ever on, every defense he was ever on, was in

2104
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 1: top five rush defense. And I remember, you get offensive

2105
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: lineman who would tell you once a ball snapped, if

2106
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: you let him get his hip set, you can't move him.

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Speaker 1: You can get all both guards and the center, you

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01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 1: can't move him. You watch films of Ted. The line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage never moved man. He was there and it

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01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: was like you had to run around him. You had

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01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: to run around he had. He had cat feet. I

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01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: mean he had a little kitten's feet. And you're like,

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01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 1: this is a three hundred and four and a pound man.

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01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: And he moved so fast and that punch, the power

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: that bunch. All right, since we're talking Ted, I gotta

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01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: give my last story off Ted. Ted changed how I

2117
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 1: looked at the game in terms of business. One day, snowstorm,

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm stuck. I couldn't get I couldn't get to practice.

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01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: Ted picks me up. I remember sitting in his truck

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01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,560
Speaker 1: and it was a mess. But he had a hummer

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01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: and hummers just came out. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ted where

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01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,840
Speaker 1: the only two people with hummers. And I was like,

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01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: this is amazing. And then the slummer with Big Ted

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01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:30,240
Speaker 1: and it's just McDonald's rappers and like a hot dog rapper,

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01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: Like just a mess, right, so I'm moving everything, and

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01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 1: while I'm moving things, I see two of our game checks.

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01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Ted, you got your game checks here? What

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01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: you want to do here? And he was like, no,

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01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 1: I put them in my glove compartment. Now I'm still

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01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 1: a youngster, so I'm like, tat, I'm scrappy. I'm like,

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01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 1: let me look at these game checks. They were four

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01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and five hundred thousand uncast. So while I'm

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01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:57,640
Speaker 1: putting them in the glove compartment, I'm like, Ted, it's

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01:55:57,680 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: like nine are thousand dollars right here. You haven't even

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01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: care see that? He said that ain't my game checks, man,

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01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 1: that's my all season stuff. Put that up while I

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01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: stopped being in my business, and my mind went boo.

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01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 1: I like, this dude is different. Man. I couldn't believe it.

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01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:13,839
Speaker 1: He just had it. They're trashed out with McDonald's repers. Okay, yeah,

2140
01:56:13,560 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: so last one here from me. Okay, as Steve mentioned,

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01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 1: you grow up in Compton, you go to Columbia, and

2142
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 1: then your first after Marv's last year, your your next

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01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,840
Speaker 1: head coach is a guy from Texas. I mean, as

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01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: country bumpkin as it gets. So how weird was that

2145
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: to go from. I mean, you had him as a

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01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, so you kind of knew, but just having

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: weighed and that personality, you know, good old country boy

2148
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: as a head coach, that had to be like an adjustment. Oh,

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 1: Wade is still a friend of mine. Man, I respect

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01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: them so much. And so you go from Marv Levy,

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: who you revere, and you're like, that's Marv Levy. And

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01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: every time he would talk it was so inspirational and educational.

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: It was it was a different approach to motivating the

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 1: group and whether it was a Civil war story, revolutionary wars,

2155
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: like Marvel would pull out a story from anywhere, and

2156
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 1: he was so intelligent that it would always hit home.

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01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 1: And did you get Wade who was a man of

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01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: fewer words, but they still packed that punch. Wade got

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01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:23,200
Speaker 1: a bad rap one because he is just a guy's like,

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01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: hey whatever, he seems that way. But I remember vividly

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01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: how Wade said, I would never be the guy dog

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01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: cursing you on Sunday because that would just tell everyone

2163
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 1: I didn't do my job Monday through Saturday preparing you.

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01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: And it was interesting watching Wade without his headset go

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01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 1: out there win ten games win eleven games, win games

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01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: because we were fully prepared. Now we know he got

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 1: caught up in the tugger war of Rob Johnson, Dub

2168
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 1: Flutie and how Ralph Wilson and how all that really

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01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,960
Speaker 1: played out behind the scenes. But if we win that

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01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 1: Music City Miracle game, we win that Tennessee game, we

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01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. Who knows what happens. It's

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01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: a different conversation about the legacy of Wade Phillips as

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01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: a head coach. I think it's solidified as great as

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01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:16,360
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, But as a head coach, I'm someone

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01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:20,000
Speaker 1: who always props him up because Wade would have you

2176
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: fully prepared, with very little fat in terms of that

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01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: process and preparation. I truly respect the playing for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good stuff, Marcellis, thanks for spending some time with us.

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01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:35,600
Speaker 1: Man's great seeing you look great. Oh man, I appreciate

2180
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:38,720
Speaker 1: you guys. And tell the Bills man, we were that close.

2181
01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 1: Last year was about can we do it? Now we

2182
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:44,240
Speaker 1: will do it because I think the guys believe so

2183
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:46,840
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing them blossom this year. But the catch,

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01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 1: Marcella's take it easy, all right, Thanks, all right, that's

2185
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 1: Marcella's wiley wild style. Who said he's now more mild style.

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01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's what happens in retirement, right. He's got

2187
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:59,240
Speaker 1: that show on FS one with Emmanuel Acho. You want

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01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: to talk about two talkers, man, Yeah, it's called speak

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01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:05,640
Speaker 1: for yourself. Holy cow. Yeah. I mean, you're not gonna

2190
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: have to worry about Phil in segments with those two guys.

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01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Marcellis was a talker from the

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01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 1: word go here in Buffalo, and nothing has changed, as

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 1: you can tell. But it was good stories. I just

2194
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 1: wanted to get those out from him because I'm telling you,

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01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: man that I'm talking stories a beaute you could it was.

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01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Most people couldn't get their mind around seeing

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01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 1: two guys that big, be that athletic. But that's really

2198
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: the marvel of the marvel of being in that in

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01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: the locker room with these guys. You get these guys

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01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: that are six five plus six six, they weigh well

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01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 1: over three hundred pounds, and and they, you know, they

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01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: look a little you know, in a in a picture

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01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 1: with no context, it look little dumpy, little chubby, you know,

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01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. But you get them out on

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01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,240
Speaker 1: the field or any in anything. And they're just as

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01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,720
Speaker 1: nimble as can be. And to Wade's credit, he used

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01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 1: both of those guys on the field at the same

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01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 1: time because a lot of people looked at Pat Williams said,

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01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, well that's Ted Washington's back up and way,

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02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 1: it's like, I think he's got a little bit more

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02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 1: to offer than that. I'm gonna line him up next

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02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,840
Speaker 1: to Ted. I'm gonna put him, you know, next to Ted.

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Speaker 1: And they called it the package. You remember that, they

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Speaker 1: call it the package. Pat and Ted on the field

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02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, you were not running the damn

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02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 1: ball anyway, right, And that's that set. That's set Pat

2217
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: Williams up to have an enormous career up in Minnesota

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02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 1: when he left Buffaloes, right, and he made a ton

2219
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: of cash and had a great career and never let

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02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: him go exactly. And that's just that's just the business

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02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: of the game. You know, you see things differently when

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02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:33,360
Speaker 1: you're in it. But guys like um, like Wade have

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02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: a real eye for certain aspects of the game that

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02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 1: go beyond other people's ability to see it and their

2225
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 1: ability to think outside the box. In small in small

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02:00:42,160 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: areas to think outside the box, like saying, well, no,

2227
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: let's let's put him in there. Because in football, you

2228
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 1: got to know that when you put somebody on the field,

2229
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 1: somebody's got to come off the field. There's only eleven guys.

2230
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: So when you start pulling and pushing guys on and

2231
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: off the field, he had a real sense of the

2232
02:00:59,480 --> 02:01:01,120
Speaker 1: most op him a way to do that. In fact,

2233
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: when you do make this small change, all of a

2234
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 1: suddenly exponentially everybody around them gets better because things changed

2235
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 1: so much. Beare those two that that was a move

2236
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: that and guys like like Wade or highly under radied

2237
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:13,960
Speaker 1: for that. Now you get them in a different context.

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02:01:14,040 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: You get him as a head coach and things. You know,

2239
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,600
Speaker 1: they get them more on their plate and they're distracted

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Speaker 1: or they they're not paid to focus on that. You know,

2241
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,000
Speaker 1: they're not as good or not as noteworthy. But man,

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02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:26,280
Speaker 1: oh Man, Wade was still coaching the Super Bowl two

2243
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:29,040
Speaker 1: years ago, three years right, that's right, yeah, with the Rams,

2244
02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:31,880
Speaker 1: and he held those guys in New England at three

2245
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,400
Speaker 1: point or thirteen points. Thirteen points in a Super Bowl,

2246
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:39,120
Speaker 1: you should win that game. You should. The guy knows

2247
02:01:39,120 --> 02:01:41,480
Speaker 1: what he's doing. Yeah, break time for us. When we

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02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,080
Speaker 1: come back, we'll wrap up your thoughts on the tweet

2249
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 1: sheet in terms of where you feel the Bills should

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Speaker 1: make a significant investment in free agency. So we'll get

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Speaker 1: to those and if we have some time, maybe a

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Speaker 1: little NFL true false when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Because anybody collie to help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: final half hour of a Tuesday edition, and we're wrapping

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Speaker 1: up your comments on the tweet sheet, so thanks for

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Speaker 1: participating there. Where do the Bills need to make a

2258
02:02:20,920 --> 02:02:24,400
Speaker 1: significant investment in free agency? We've had some good contenders

2259
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: so far, this one from JT. Pass rusher to get

2260
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback to force more turnovers of sacks,

2261
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:35,320
Speaker 1: backing teams up for long fourth downs. Like Steve says,

2262
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 1: special teams wins your games. Bring back Andre Robertson Bojoe

2263
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 1: with his booming leg, and bring in a great pass rusher.

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02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:45,080
Speaker 1: We should always have great field position. I see special

2265
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: teams wins you games. I don't know somebody's have you

2266
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 1: been misquoted? Maybe? But he does bring up an interesting point.

2267
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 1: One't we have not really covered Steve. Andre Roberts is

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02:02:55,520 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 1: a free agent and Corey Bojorquez is a restrict did

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02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 1: free agent. Yeah, I mean, I think Burke has had

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02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: get his evolving into a really good punt. He's got

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02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:13,520
Speaker 1: a huge leg. His inconsistency was less so this past year.

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02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: No question, he was the He punted less than any

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02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 1: any guy uh in the league. U, but he was

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02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: more consistent. This was his most consistent year, wouldn't you say? Yeah,

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02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:28,600
Speaker 1: And that's that's what the bugaboo was for the first

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02:03:28,680 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 1: first couple of years. Um. He had the best punt

2277
02:03:33,000 --> 02:03:35,280
Speaker 1: I've seen in the league this last year. And it

2278
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 1: was in the I think it was in the it

2279
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 1: was Week seventeen game against Miami. He too hopped it

2280
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 1: six inches outside the pot yard line. That was a corner,

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02:03:48,840 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 1: perfect sixty four yard punt or something. And he's he's

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02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 1: he's done extremely well. Um. His leg strength is a

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02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: huge plus. UM. But I think also Andre Roberts, here's

2284
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:10,760
Speaker 1: the difference. Andre Roberts, his decision making as a kick returner,

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02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:15,000
Speaker 1: I think probably gives you more benefit than Borkez. On

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02:04:15,040 --> 02:04:19,120
Speaker 1: the whole, you would make him a higher priority than

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02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 1: ye and I'll tell you why, Because a punter's job is,

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02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, you make a mistake, it's a bad punt,

2289
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:29,360
Speaker 1: that's a mistake. I mean, certainly, if you let the

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02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 1: ball go over your head in a snap or something,

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02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: do something like that. That's that goes without saying. But

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02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 1: there is more room for catastrophic mistake as a kick

2293
02:04:38,960 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: returner than there is is a punter. And Andre Roberts

2294
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 1: just doesn't make those mistakes, and he always gives you

2295
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 1: a chance. I've said it a ton this last month

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02:04:53,680 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 1: or so, since the offseason started. Andre Roberts is an

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02:04:56,520 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 1: elite decision maker back there, and that's you can't you

2298
02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:05,080
Speaker 1: can't overstate how important that is. The ball never hits

2299
02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:07,800
Speaker 1: the ground, he gets every yard that's coming to him

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Speaker 1: in a return game. He makes the right decisions of

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02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:15,560
Speaker 1: win and how to feel the punt, and it's just it's,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's just great. I think he's a much

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02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:23,080
Speaker 1: more valuable asset than by Workes at this point in

2304
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 1: his career because of his decision making ability. Let me

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02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:31,240
Speaker 1: run this by you and you tell me what you think. Okay,

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02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 1: as we know, but Horkes is a restricted free agent. Okay,

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02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:40,960
Speaker 1: The Bills could tender him a qualifying offer, there by

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02:05:41,080 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: maintaining right of first refusal rights should somebody else sign

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02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 1: him to an offer sheet or a long term contract,

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02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,960
Speaker 1: that the Bills would have an option to match. As

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02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, undrafted, so there's no compensation if you don't

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Speaker 1: match that. I don't think they're going to tender him

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Speaker 1: at a second round level. You don't usually do that

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Speaker 1: with a punter. Um, there are guys in the control.

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02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm shown us that punt put. Yeah, that's it. Man's

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02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 1: it was. That's as perfect as you cannot do that backspin.

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02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,000
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it lands with a ballmark right on

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02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:16,800
Speaker 1: the outside of the pylon. Nably fantastic punt. We know

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02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:25,640
Speaker 1: over the years, the Patriots have Pilford restricted free agents

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Speaker 1: off of Buffalo's roster. Okay, Chris Hogan tandrid at the

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02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: low level. Patriots signed him knowing that the Bills were

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02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 1: tight against the cap that year and didn't want to

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Speaker 1: pay a lot of money. They lose Chris Hogan to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Okay, there was a running back also whose

2325
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 1: name is escaping me. Now what the heck was his name?

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Speaker 1: Yea restricted free agent and they signed him. Now, he

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02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:49,800
Speaker 1: didn't do much up there in New England, but again

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02:06:50,240 --> 02:06:52,520
Speaker 1: signed him to a long term contract when the Bills

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02:06:52,520 --> 02:06:55,400
Speaker 1: were tight against the cap, couldn't keep him. He goes

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02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 1: up to New England and plays up there for the

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Speaker 1: next two or three years. Okay, Steve Cory bjorke Now

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02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 1: they have a decent from the right. They have a

2333
02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:08,320
Speaker 1: decent punter in Jake Bailey, pretty good punter, but we

2334
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,879
Speaker 1: know the Patriots have an affinity for left footed punters.

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Speaker 1: And as you just pointed out, Corey Bjorkez began his

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Speaker 1: career as an undrafted rookie with the New England Patriots

2337
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:22,680
Speaker 1: and the Bills stole them away when they put him

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02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:30,040
Speaker 1: on waivers and they've had Gillis, thank you. So my

2339
02:07:30,200 --> 02:07:34,800
Speaker 1: concern here is that once again Bills are tight against

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02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 1: the cap. Okay, can't spend giant money everywhere. And my

2341
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:43,760
Speaker 1: fear is they get Corey Bjorkez back and now the

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02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 1: Bills are looking for a punter. That's my fear. Maybe

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02:07:46,520 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm a little over anxious about that, but we've seen

2344
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:53,800
Speaker 1: it happen before with that team with restricted free agents,

2345
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:56,920
Speaker 1: and they have money to spend, as we know, Borke

2346
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 1: has got a big leg and a lot of people

2347
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 1: think that's that's the way you got to do it.

2348
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:05,200
Speaker 1: And he's he'll be under some demand. I don't know

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02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:06,880
Speaker 1: that the Bills will be in a position not to

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02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 1: be able to match it. I would hope that they

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02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: would sign him to a two year deal, you know,

2352
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:15,120
Speaker 1: instead of messing around with this restricted free agent qualifying

2353
02:08:15,160 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: tender offer. Just sign him to a two year extension

2354
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 1: and be done with it, you know, or a three

2355
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:22,839
Speaker 1: year extension whatever, just to kind of reduce the annual

2356
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: average value, you know, with a longer contracting and spread

2357
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,720
Speaker 1: the money out, give him a little bonus for a

2358
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:31,040
Speaker 1: nice year and don't overcommit. Go two years, maybe three

2359
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 1: if you think about that. What it usually happens is

2360
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:36,640
Speaker 1: when like, for instance, when New England took Chris Hogan

2361
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 1: from the Bills, he was like getting like a million

2362
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:40,720
Speaker 1: bucks a year, eight hundred thousand a year, and the

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02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,680
Speaker 1: tender offer was like one point three and then they

2364
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 1: threw big money at him. They yes, it was three

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02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:47,880
Speaker 1: million years. It was he got four million a year

2366
02:08:48,280 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 1: for like three years. It's a twelve million dollars three

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02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 1: year deal. And they was like what they and you know,

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02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: even the people here a Buffalo were like, hey, you know,

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02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: God bless you go ahead, but they weren't even in

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02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 1: a position to match it because there and no and

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02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:02,640
Speaker 1: I thought it was it was kind of crazy money then,

2372
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:04,440
Speaker 1: but you knew them when they paid him that kind

2373
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:05,680
Speaker 1: of money to get him over there, he was gonna

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02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 1: play a role in their offense. They had on special

2375
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: teams and he did. He did a lot of things

2376
02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,160
Speaker 1: on them. He did a lot of things for them

2377
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 1: and was productive for them because they had a bigger

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02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,080
Speaker 1: role for him. Yeah, Dealislee not so much he couldn't

2379
02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: get on the field. It's different for for a punter though.

2380
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 1: The role his role as his role, Yes, it's not

2381
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,480
Speaker 1: like a guy like Chris Hogan, where the Bills used

2382
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:26,240
Speaker 1: him as a backup wide receiver. They used him as

2383
02:09:26,280 --> 02:09:30,560
Speaker 1: a as a big time third receiver and also on

2384
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:32,200
Speaker 1: special teams, did a lot of stuff for Him's a

2385
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: little bit more of a jack of ball trades for them,

2386
02:09:34,720 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: So that you know that that gave me worry about

2387
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 1: that stuff though, knowing the money that New England has

2388
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:44,160
Speaker 1: to spend, they can afford to make a luxury signing

2389
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:47,120
Speaker 1: like that if they feel he's an upgrade from Jake Bailey.

2390
02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:49,880
Speaker 1: Well they'll, yeah, they'll project what they think he can

2391
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: do for them and put a value on it. And

2392
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 1: if it's more value than the Bills put his role

2393
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:58,680
Speaker 1: for us, you know they'll they'll snash him if they can. Yeah,

2394
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,680
Speaker 1: you're right. Um, it's all a out. Like I said,

2395
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,320
Speaker 1: it's about getting value for the money you're spending on

2396
02:10:03,360 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 1: your roster. Just silly things that I that run through

2397
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 1: my head in the off season. These are the things

2398
02:10:08,440 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 1: that I concerned myself. It's kind of it's a little

2399
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 1: sad in a way, but it's silly for you and me.

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02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:16,040
Speaker 1: It ain't silly for those guys. Yeah, you're right, But

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02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:18,080
Speaker 1: I think it'd be great if they could just sign

2402
02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:21,640
Speaker 1: him to like an extension, line him up with Ferguson's

2403
02:10:21,640 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 1: contract and you know that Bass is going to be here,

2404
02:10:24,080 --> 02:10:27,160
Speaker 1: just keep that whole operation together for the next couple

2405
02:10:27,160 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: of years. I just think it would it would behove

2406
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 1: the Special Teams, It would benefit the Special Teams unit

2407
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 1: to do that. Just just my two cents for what

2408
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 1: it's worth. We have to take a break, but Steve

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02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 1: and I will tie things up here on this Tuesday

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Speaker 1: edition of One Bill's Live. When we return, We're back

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Speaker 1: in a moment time for what have we learned from

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Speaker 1: today's show? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction

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02:10:59,320 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 1: equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Had NFL Networks

2414
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:07,160
Speaker 1: Judy Batista on the show today and among the many

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02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:10,040
Speaker 1: things that she covered with us, she gave us a

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02:11:10,200 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 1: little sneak peek as to what twenty twenty one training

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02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:18,160
Speaker 1: camps might look like with the pandemic hopefully winding down.

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02:11:19,560 --> 02:11:21,920
Speaker 1: I think they are looking at the injury data to

2419
02:11:22,080 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 1: see did the slow run up and the lack of

2420
02:11:24,760 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 1: offseason work contribute to more injuries. That's a question that

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02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:30,200
Speaker 1: has to be answered before you decide how you're going

2422
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:34,800
Speaker 1: to structure training camp. Obviously, they expect to go back

2423
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 1: to having preseason games, and so that affects how you

2424
02:11:37,800 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 1: structure your training camp. But the end result is they

2425
02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 1: think the regular season is going to be pretty close

2426
02:11:44,760 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 1: to normal, you know. I mean, the hope is that

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Speaker 1: you know, the vaccine is widely available and widely accepted,

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02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:54,760
Speaker 1: and then you can go back to not testing all

2429
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: the time and not having to do all the social distancing,

2430
02:11:56,960 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 1: and you can sort of had normal gatherings in the facility.

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02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 1: All the things that wraps up last year can come back,

2432
02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 1: at least in some modified form. We need that in August.

2433
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:08,840
Speaker 1: I know we're not gonna get it in the spring,

2434
02:12:09,600 --> 02:12:12,600
Speaker 1: and who knows. I mean, nobody cares. Players don't want

2435
02:12:12,600 --> 02:12:15,440
Speaker 1: to come back in the spring anyway, Nobody cares training camp.

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02:12:15,440 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 1: It would be nice to see training camps come back

2437
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,840
Speaker 1: and be held as normal, even if they're you know,

2438
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:23,839
Speaker 1: like in Bustle Saint John Fisher, even if fans can't attend.

2439
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 1: The media could be there and you know, everybody get

2440
02:12:27,880 --> 02:12:30,320
Speaker 1: vaccine and stuff. You can go down and watch practice. Yeah,

2441
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:32,600
Speaker 1: you can watch these guys and some other point other

2442
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 1: than from the booth. That's pretty amazing. It's amazing. We're

2443
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna get there, right, we are gonna get there theoretically,

2444
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, theoretically. I'm I'm you know, I've no shot

2445
02:12:44,920 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 1: at getting a vaccine in the coming weeks. None. We

2446
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:50,480
Speaker 1: are low on the list, and rightfully so, yeah, I

2447
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:52,240
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. I get it. I don't

2448
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:53,640
Speaker 1: have a problem with that at all. Get get the

2449
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 1: people who are vulnerable, and I'll take it. When you've've

2450
02:12:56,560 --> 02:13:02,160
Speaker 1: got some leftover. Fine, We're we're here for the reserve exactly.

2451
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:06,480
Speaker 1: Stash that you've got, no problem, that's absolutely no problem. Uh,

2452
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 1: real fun talking to Marcellus Wiley today. That was a

2453
02:13:09,880 --> 02:13:13,440
Speaker 1: great conversation and Judy Batista great is always so our

2454
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:17,040
Speaker 1: thanks to them. And well, Steve, I don't know, what

2455
02:13:17,080 --> 02:13:18,680
Speaker 1: do you say we just come back and do this

2456
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,120
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Yeah, I'll see it noon. I'll be around noon,

2457
02:13:21,880 --> 02:13:24,800
Speaker 1: around noon, maybe twelve o five maybe, Oh, okay, I'll

2458
02:13:24,840 --> 02:13:27,560
Speaker 1: be plopped down on the seat. Okay, I'll have it.

2459
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 1: You're in much earlier than that, as were, you know,

2460
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:33,839
Speaker 1: doing your prep work with your bifocals and yes, scanning

2461
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:38,000
Speaker 1: chief cyber space and covering everything it can cover, calming

2462
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:41,520
Speaker 1: Jay Bird's nerves, that's right, yes, and often asking what

2463
02:13:41,560 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 1: are we doing? Moving back? We got you know, listen,

2464
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days, we're gonna see some

2465
02:13:46,520 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 1: other people like Kyle van Noy get cut. We're gonna

2466
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 1: have some a lot more things to talk about. And uh,

2467
02:13:51,600 --> 02:13:53,960
Speaker 1: and the bills right now are said that they've got

2468
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:55,640
Speaker 1: maybe a little above the cap right to this point,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see the twists and turns will continue on

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Tomorrow, we'll see them