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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell.

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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard

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Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Edo Steak.

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Speaker 2: Is that woo woo?

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Speaker 3: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Suburbo boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 2: is Ty Hildenbrandt. That fine gentleman over there, the one,

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Speaker 2: the only, the ravishing Dan Rubinstein on Valentine's Day, Sir, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm I'm relieved we get to connect today

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Speaker 1: because not too many people know this about you, but

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Speaker 1: you are a hopeless romantic, always you, always thoughtful, You

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Speaker 1: are sensitive, sensual, all of the adjectives. I just learned

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Speaker 1: these things over the years, you know, picking up crumbs

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Speaker 1: of your personality because you can be a little bit guarded,

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Speaker 1: right you don't want to let the people in. You're

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Speaker 1: just showing the college football side of your personality. But

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Speaker 1: as we connect college football to marriage, to relationships to

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Speaker 1: anything in the realm of Valentine's Day, I think this

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Speaker 1: is where you shine. Because everybody that has told me

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Speaker 1: about you consider it thoughtful, looks you dead in the

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Speaker 1: eye tells you what he thinks and is always thinking

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Speaker 1: of you. And so that's the Tai hilden Brand. I

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Speaker 1: think everybody wants to get to know.

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Speaker 2: Today you left out generous lover, which you usually add.

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Speaker 1: I know, I was going back and forth as I

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Speaker 1: was talking, and I was like, you know, this is inappropriate,

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Speaker 1: and you know that I am considerate of you know,

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Speaker 1: people driving in minivans with cars not wanting to answer

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Speaker 1: questions about what does that mean when Dan says ties

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Speaker 1: a generous lover. But that's the reputation.

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Speaker 2: At least it only took you like fifteen years to

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Speaker 2: figure out that that's inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: So look there there are Reddit threads about you on

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Speaker 1: that topic. So it's it's wild. It's great.

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Speaker 2: I think it shows that we can grow, yeah, of course,

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Speaker 2: as individuals, and that is sort of the theme of

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Speaker 2: this episode. This is our annual How's Your Marriage episode.

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Speaker 2: I think we discussed maybe a bit of a bonus

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Speaker 2: portion that goes out on Patreon after the final bell

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Speaker 2: for the public portion.

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Speaker 3: Of this episode.

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Speaker 2: But what we do is we take a look at

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Speaker 2: coaches around college football, and we are evaluating the state

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Speaker 2: of some of these marriages. You've got four coaches. I've

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Speaker 2: got four coaches. It was one of our favorite episodes

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Speaker 2: that we did last year.

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Speaker 1: I wrote down like eleven by the way, in case

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Speaker 1: we need more, because I've just got a lot of

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Speaker 1: a lot of sort of borderline unfounded opinions about these marriages.

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Speaker 1: Do I have Do I have permission to be mean

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Speaker 1: in this episode if you support it, if you show

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Speaker 1: your work, because like, if we are looking at college

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Speaker 1: football coaches and their jobs as a marriage, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you and Jodie with an I are but right,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say we're judgmental over here at

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Speaker 3: We try not to be.

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Speaker 2: But on occasion there is a marriage that perhaps we

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Speaker 2: choose to analyze in terms that aren't always the kindest.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so you're you're talking about that that you will

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Speaker 1: be like the you know, the Jeff Schwartz with the

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Speaker 1: telestrator about somebody else's You'll highlight certain elements, you will

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Speaker 1: break it down. You're Dan Orlovsky with the touch screen

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Speaker 1: looking at perhaps some acquaintances and how their relationships may

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Speaker 1: or may not.

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Speaker 2: I draw some assumptions on occasion, solid wife Kate does

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Speaker 2: not like to do that. I'm not gonna say I

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Speaker 2: like to do it. I just can't resist.

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Speaker 3: Sure, it just happens, right, I'm.

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Speaker 2: An analytical creature, Dan, That's who I am.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. I mean, look, it's hard to help

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Speaker 1: yourself sometimes when some things are just staring you in

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Speaker 1: point thirty Eastern on CBS. Right, sometimes you just t'd

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Speaker 1: going on with Eli Drinkwitz right now, And I think

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Speaker 1: it's worth analysis. That's why we're doing our Is it

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Speaker 1: our second? It's our biannual house, your marriage episode?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think that's what this is, at

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Speaker 3: least our second. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you hear an iPhone alarm in about

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Speaker 1: a minute or in about twenty six minutes, that's just

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Speaker 1: my pizza do alarm. Oh, then it'll tie. You plan

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Speaker 1: on editing this out of the episode. But I mean

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Speaker 1: maybe I think relationships and marriages are about honesty, being forthright.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Give me a sound.

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Speaker 3: I don't care whatever sound you've got.

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Speaker 1: We're just normal men, thank you, Just normal men.

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Speaker 3: Talk about James Franklin.

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Speaker 2: State. Okay, let's talk about this marriage if we could.

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Speaker 3: It's something I happen to know a lot about.

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Speaker 2: It's a marriage I have been evaluating now for the

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Speaker 1: So is this a marriage between James Franklin and Penn

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Speaker 2: It's a marriage between all of the above. Okay, all

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Speaker 2: the above. I tend to think of these marriages more

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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of a coach relative to the fan base. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: because marriages are all about expectations, you know this, It's

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Speaker 2: and I think that's where the fan base goes when

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Speaker 2: the partner that does a lot right but still frustratingly

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Speaker 3: Wrong as he always has.

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Speaker 2: Let I see that he gets a lot of those

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Speaker 2: game decisions people will go next to and have gone

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Speaker 3: It was there this year. It was there.

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Speaker 3: This was supposed to be the year, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: This was supposed to be the year when James Franklin

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Speaker 2: A ton of experience on defense with two dynamic backs.

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Speaker 2: I focus mainly on the offense because the defense is

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Speaker 3: And you know what we got from the offense this year?

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Speaker 3: That's what we got. They stunk.

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Speaker 2: They bring up Andy kotel Nikki. I hope I said

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Speaker 3: I hope it's as fun as he described.

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Speaker 2: I really do. Here is what I would call out

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Speaker 2: As we forge ahead now through Valentine's Day and into

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Speaker 2: benefits more from the expanded playoff and conference realignment than

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Speaker 2: James Franklin. Yeah, nobody. It comes at the absolute perfect

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Speaker 2: sort of plateaued. I don't know if he wants to

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Speaker 2: pursue other jobs or not other marriages. That's, you know,

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Speaker 2: been blocked by two teams, the aforementioned Michigan Wolverine's and

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Speaker 2: Ohio State buck Guys. This year, the schedule works well

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Speaker 2: Ohio State in early November. But I've got big questions

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Speaker 1: So how's the marriage though? What like if you're looking

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Speaker 1: James Franklin. Is it's been a long term marriage. There's

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Speaker 1: been the highest of highs, like, you gotta respect. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's been loyal, even if he's he flirts at the

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Speaker 3: Let's be real a little bit.

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Speaker 1: James Franklin by the Candalope, he'll be flirty. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if it actually means anything. And yes, the

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Speaker 1: the Ohio state and Michigan thing, it's like he's still

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Speaker 1: getting around to calling the h back guy, right, it's

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Speaker 1: not comfortable in that house all the time because James

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Speaker 1: And winter it's still a little cold. Summer it gets

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Speaker 1: a little bit too steamy, and you said you'd take

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Speaker 1: care of it. But James Franklins, no, no, I got this.

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Speaker 1: I got this, But he doesn't. He still doesn't have that.

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Speaker 1: And so that there's there's growing frustration. But look, the

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Speaker 1: kids are great, right, the mortgage is paid off. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to love about this marriage.

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Speaker 2: There's there's a lot to love. And I think in

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Speaker 2: general we come back to if not James, then who

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Speaker 2: in this right? Sure? Right? Yeah, he leaves you a

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Speaker 2: bit wanting m But do you really want to upset

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Speaker 2: the apple card at this point? Yeah, things are going

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Speaker 2: pretty well. Look, you're fifty seven and haven't been single

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Speaker 2: in a while. I know who knows what's out there?

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Speaker 2: You don't want to be out there, man, and.

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Speaker 1: You live a little bit off the beaten path. Let's

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Speaker 1: be real, like, not a ton of suitors in the moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, I just look, here's are you talking about

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Speaker 3: me or you talking about James? By the way, who's

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Speaker 3: who's to say? Okay, I'm just making sure.

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Speaker 1: Here's my point. You're a different generation than I am. Yeah, here,

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Speaker 1: how dare you? Here is my point? My point is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, he's the Snapple of the Big Ten, right,

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Speaker 2: a little bit more, Fred, that is the state of

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Deon Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Oh, give me a let's go. You have the disorder

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Speaker 1: I get that could be looming disaster for others, could

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Speaker 1: be looming disaster for Diana and Colorado. Here's what I

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Speaker 1: Though, right, Like he's trying to silence everybody who's saying

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Speaker 2: I have a friend, it's it's more of an acquaintance

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Speaker 2: I'm getting some notes of that as you described Eon.

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Speaker 1: I think that's totally true. Where marriage takes work, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think I think it burns out? And that's okay, right.

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Speaker 2: Like that, that's perfect.

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Speaker 3: What do you have, Mario Crystobaul Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you saw a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: Is an arranged marriage? Is that where you're going with this?

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Speaker 2: This is this is one of those high school sweetheart

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Speaker 1: All the comments like you haven't aged at all? What's

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Speaker 2: Continue twelve and thirteen in two years at Miami made

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Speaker 2: It's also one of those deals where from the outside

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Speaker 1: The far families get along with each other. There's so

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Speaker 2: even with all the riding on the wall, like eh,

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Speaker 2: take something cataclysmic for this marriage to end, especially with

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Speaker 2: So recruiting is strong, Transfer portal recruiting is very strong.

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Speaker 2: So I just worry that there will be a moment

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Speaker 3: Off season, we're cool.

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Speaker 2: We're cool. Yeah, until we're not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I think you're right. I think they

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Speaker 1: This was supposed to be forever. You have the matching

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Speaker 1: like tram stamps. This has to work. And they've got

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Speaker 1: like the matching vanity license plates, like they're all in

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Speaker 2: The thing here in eastern Pennsylvania, our version of that

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Speaker 2: That on many occasions where it's and it's not always NASCAR.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll say Mario and Miami. They're doing like the

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Speaker 1: there's just so much there. I don't know if that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, and and so I just I mean,

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Speaker 2: probably could speak more to this marriage than than I could.

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Speaker 2: Is this marriage better than the last marriage she was in?

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Speaker 1: Not at the moment, Not at the moment. Right, It's

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Speaker 1: It's the nicest mailbox on the block, but it keeps

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Speaker 1: as a compliment, they are one of the most dug

436
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: in fan bases, not just with Mario Crista ball, but

437
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: if you say anything bad about like the size of

438
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: the crowd in their stadium, like they're quick to snap

439
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: back at you. They are all in defending their turf,

440
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: all in defending like Mario's finally getting his roster to

441
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: where he wants it to be, Mario's finally getting his

442
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: coaching staff to where it wants to be There was

443
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: a lot to clean up from the Manny diaz Era

444
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: and the mark Rick d Arra or whatever. And you know,

445
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: he always said that this was going to take time.

446
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: And so I respect on a certain level that whether

447
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: or not Miami fans exist in reality, that it seems

448
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: like a good chunk of them are unwavering in their belief.

449
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: And you know, I don't think a lot of that

450
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 3: is wrong.

451
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: And maybe that's a February thing, though I think I

452
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: think that's January February.

453
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 2: I think there is validity to most of what you

454
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: just said there.

455
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I do think.

456
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: It it's a fixer upper situation. It's going to take

457
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: a little bit, and I do think to get his

458
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: roster and his style of football in place, it's going

459
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: to take a little bit, you know. I mean, Mario

460
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 2: plays the gorilla ball. He wants to be physical at

461
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: the point of attack. He wants to he wants to

462
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: sort of ground and pound and beat your brains in.

463
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 2: And I think I part part of the dis appointment

464
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: for me is that I thought it was going to

465
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: happen more last year.

466
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: It seemed like the pieces were in place for that

467
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: to go down.

468
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: Last last season, and it kind of didn't and they

469
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: still had strife at quarterback and they still felt like

470
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: a team that wasn't very organized.

471
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: But they've planned some trips. Ty, there's a lot to

472
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: look forward to, right, They've planned trips, They've made some reservations.

473
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: They're getting a couple's pettic here, like, there's a lot

474
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: that there's big plans with this couple.

475
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: I think there's big plans, and so I am.

476
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: I am optimistic that that ultimately we will be talking

477
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: about it in a different light.

478
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: Good, But.

479
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 2: At least eight million dollars a year to lose to

480
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 2: Rutgers in a Bowl game in year two. People are

481
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 2: starting to ask questions. You know, some of the mutual

482
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: friends on Facebook are dming each other, just wondering like.

483
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: Hey, what are you? What anything's going on there?

484
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: You're on Facebook more than I am. I don't know

485
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: all of these references you can DM mutual friends on Facebook.

486
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: I think I'm mixing social media platforms, Dan, That's how

487
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: on Facebook.

488
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: You will catch those unwavering fans though on social media

489
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: saying things like Oregon people may have been right after

490
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech game, after the middle Tennessee game. Yeah,

491
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: and even those people remember some of those grocery store arguments.

492
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 1: So you're ready for mine? Or do you have any more?

493
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: Mario pristaball?

494
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: Please go?

495
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: All right? My next one is let's go sec Let's

496
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: go Lane Kiffin. Oh, okay, things at all? Miss? I

497
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: think things are pretty great in the Lanekiffin Ole Miss marriage. Now. Look,

498
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: there's the flirtation with Auburn what a year ago. But

499
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: otherwise I just think sometimes in a marriage, if money

500
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: is not an issue, which it definitely doesn't seem to

501
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: be at ole Miss definitely doesn't seem to be with

502
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: the collectives with nil, money isn't everything, but that that

503
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: negates one sore spot in a relationship, in a marriage

504
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: that you're not arguing about money, you're not having money

505
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: as a concern. Look, is Lane Kiffin the strongest husband?

506
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: Is he the smartest husband, the richest husband?

507
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: No?

508
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: But you always almost always have a good time with

509
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: Laane in a relationship. And he's been around the block.

510
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Let's not pretend like you are high school sweethearts. But

511
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: he's learned some lessons about love and relationships along the way.

512
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: And sure he's he's a bit older than his spouse,

513
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: let's say, but maybe keeping him young is just what

514
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: he needed in a partner tie. Sometimes you have to

515
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: be self aware, and I think there's a decent amount

516
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: of self awareness with Lane Kiffin and ole Miss. And

517
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: I think ole Miss, the school, the athletic department, the

518
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: fan base appreciates the attempts that Lane Kiffen is making

519
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: to make this relationship work right and going after better coaches,

520
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: especially on defense, going after you know guys in the portal,

521
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, doing whatever it takes, whether it's counseling, whether

522
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: it's making her breast, whatever it takes. I think Lane

523
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: Kiffin is is into this relation. SIP. You like that,

524
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: come to the SIP relationship. So I'm good with it.

525
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: Ty.

526
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: I think the relationship is strong. I think there's fire there,

527
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: and I think the outlook is they're always going to

528
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: be a fun hang at a backyard cookout.

529
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: I think he's cool without being manufactured cool.

530
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

531
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: I think he is legitimately cool and not like the

532
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: cool substitute teacher vibe, you know, not the Dabbos Sweeney vibe.

533
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: He's just like he gets it. He's gotten older, he's

534
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 2: gotten more mature. We followed him through the years. He

535
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: doesn't use social media incorrectly, you know, he kind of

536
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 2: gets it. He's in touch with those around him. And

537
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: I agree fun at a picnic. I agree a strong marriage, yeah,

538
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: and I think get stronger this year because ole Miss

539
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: is loaded up. You know, we've talked a lot about

540
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: these other schools, Ohio State and whoever else, But ole

541
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: Miss is right there.

542
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Man.

543
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: Ole Miss has done well for itself in the portal,

544
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: and I think especially now given the void of things

545
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: in the SEC and the SEC West in particular, Sure

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: like if ole Miss isn't in the playoff.

547
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: Whatever the SEC West actually looks like now whatever divisions

548
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: actually yeah, I don't you know, yeah, who knows.

549
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's all kind of jumbled together at

550
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: this point, right, But just that grouping of teams, let's say,

551
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: even if it's not labeled the same way, that has

552
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: kind of stood in the path of Lane Kiff and

553
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: Old Miss maybe being more of a presence in the

554
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: SEC and in the national conversation. There's a big old

555
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: void there now with Saban walking out and with Alabama

556
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: losing thirty guys, whatever the hell it was the portal,

557
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: I think it's a really strong marriage. I think I

558
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: think great things are to come, speaking of planning trips

559
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: and planning expeditions, like sure, this is where it's at

560
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: right now in the sec Yeah.

561
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: Look the the neighbor in Alabama that had all of

562
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: the best parties laid into the night, keeping you awake,

563
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: just moved away, moved away, and you've come into some cash.

564
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna knock that house down, You're gonna buy that property,

565
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna make a huge yard for yourself. Yep,

566
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: that's great, man.

567
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: What a show of force to knock down the neighbor's house. Yes.

568
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 3: Wow.

569
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: And you're just using it to like put in a

570
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: sport cord or something. You're not even building a new property.

571
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: It's just pick a ball.

572
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: It's just a party lot. Yeah you play.

573
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

574
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's your next next coach.

575
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: PJ.

576
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: Fleck oh Man, Okay, making about six mil.

577
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, reportedly was just interviewed for the UCLA gig down

578
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: in Cabo. I am hesitant to judge the state of

579
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: this marriage because I don't know if I fully understand

580
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: the expectations from Minnesota football. Right I have picked up

581
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything in our interaction with Minnesota fans.

582
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: I've got some loyal Minnesota fans that listen to the

583
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: show that right into the show shout out Will in Minnesota.

584
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: I think Will in Minnesota is a Virginia fan though to.

585
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: Be also a Virginia fan, but also attention to Minnesota.

586
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we we've had sort of, I think

587
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything from folks that that follow

588
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: Minnesota football here. And this reminds me of the kind

589
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: of marriage where you've got like one side of it

590
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: that's always dressing up way more than the other and

591
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: nobody's quite sure why. Like PJ might be on Tinder

592
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: but just to browse, always swipes in the wrong direction.

593
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: You know, he's not actually looking to use the app

594
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: the way people use the app. He just he needs

595
00:30:53,560 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: that excitement, you know. Yeah, If James Franklin ben fits

596
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: from the changing dynamics of college football, PJ Flex certainly

597
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: does not. He certainly does not. He's been at Minnesota

598
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: seven years. He won an Outback Bowl once that was fun,

599
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: won the Big Ten West I think the same year

600
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen or so. But we keep coming back

601
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: to the operative question of this marriage, which is do

602
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: they make each other better. The Big ten West made

603
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: everybody a little bit better, and I think he has

604
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: benefited from that. But now that even that changes in

605
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, I find myself asking a lot, is

606
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: there a symbiotic relationship here that truly is mutually beneficial

607
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: because I don't think PJ. Flex Stock has gone up.

608
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: I found it odd that UCI Lalee wonet to talk

609
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: to him. I mean, maybe I shouldn't, but I don't

610
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: feel like PJ. Flex Stock has done much since he

611
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: got there, or at least outside of the first couple

612
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 2: of seasons.

613
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: But he's a big personality though right in LA the

614
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: second biggest school in the same way that like the

615
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: Chargers went after Jim Harbaugh where.

616
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Harba are Charger. Harball went to like three

617
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: or four conference championship.

618
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is I think the UCLA

619
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: appeal in PJ. Fleck is that he's a big personality there.

620
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: There are very few UCLA football fans watch a UCLA game,

621
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: right There are very few UCLA football fans who are

622
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: pouring into the Rose Bowl each Saturday. And so when

623
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: you have a bigger personality and outsized personality like PJ. Fleck,

624
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: even with all of his like row the boat stuff,

625
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: that he will attract attention in an attention starve city.

626
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: And so that's that's I think the appeal there.

627
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: Okay, has he made Minnesota better?

628
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: I mean some from some of the lows and the

629
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: way that you know, the you know, Jerry Kill Tracy

630
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Clay's era ended. He was certainly a breadth of fresh air.

631
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: And they're high higher, their highs have been higher under PJ. Fleck,

632
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: beating Penn State the way that they did in twenty nineteen,

633
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: those two NFL receivers with Tyler Anderson Shad Bateman, like,

634
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: there has been star power, legitimate star power at Minnesota.

635
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: Even leaving Minnesota. Bucky Irving started his career at Minnesota.

636
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: Now might be the first running back off the board

637
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft. So talent evaluation I think has

638
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 1: been better. You know, I think we're Sead Bateman's from Georgia,

639
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: so like the geographic pull of the Gophers has been better.

640
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like about the highs of Minnesota. Yes,

641
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: as a program, you have a better sense for PJ

642
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: flex vibe and deal and personality than you've had for

643
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: a Minnesota quot ever in quite some time anyway, and

644
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: that's a big deal.

645
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: He is a personality.

646
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: And you know, if we're going to talk about the

647
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: benefits of hiring Dion at Colorado, we could talk about

648
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: that a little bit. With hiring a guy like a

649
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Fleck to Minnesota. It is not nest necessarily. A program

650
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: that has been associated with big personalities just isn't. And no,

651
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: you know, they have shown, I think over the course

652
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: of the last decade or so, they're willing to invest

653
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: in the program.

654
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: They built a.

655
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: Damn new stadium, right so they want to be in

656
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: that conversation, and they're obviously paying Fleck accordingly. But I'm

657
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: just I'm worried about what it looks like now as

658
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: things change in the Big Ten because the schedule, I

659
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: think over the long haul, I haven't looked at it

660
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: this coming season admittedly, but over the long haul there

661
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 2: are going to be fewer gimmes on that schedule. Now

662
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: you have to play like, you know, Illinois, you don't

663
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: have to play some of the Nebraska, some of these

664
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: teams every year that you maybe were counting off for wins.

665
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't even know if those teams are the right examples.

666
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: But you get my point.

667
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: The act is wearing. The act is wearing a little

668
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: bit thin, right, that the act is not matching the results.

669
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: I have always felt like PJ.

670
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: Was a bit of a snake oil salesman.

671
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I've always felt like like he always has a

672
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: new get rich quick scheme, and you, the partner in

673
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: this relationship, have to endure some of the highs and

674
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the lows.

675
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I told you this story before, but like

676
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: my dad tried to patent the idea of hanging a

677
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: tennis ball at the front of your garage so you

678
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: knew when your car was the full way in when

679
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: the tennis ball. Was the first person to come up

680
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, he tried, He tried to patent that.

681
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: My mom tells that story. Like PJ maybe has a

682
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: better version of that.

683
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: He has that vibe, He.

684
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: Has a little bit of that vibe. And I worry

685
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: about that. I worry about that, And and you know,

686
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: I like Minnesota as a program. I want Minnesota as

687
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: a program to be better, and it bothers me that

688
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: it's not gotten there yet, especially especially given what we've

689
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: seen in the last two seasons. Where you and I

690
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: have had a conversation many a time on this show,

691
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: like did they miss their window? Did they miss their

692
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: window to do a little bit more with this team?

693
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: And that I don't know.

694
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something. There's something about Minnesota as like the

695
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: Utah of the Big Ten, where it's like they're not

696
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: amazing at everything, but if you're not bringing your a

697
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: game too, Minneapolis, you're just gonna lose. They're too solid

698
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: in too many places, and they became legitimately very good

699
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, but the best of Minnesota throughout the

700
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: years has largely come on defense. Has largely come with

701
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: a high level of competence on offense, whether it's just

702
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: running the ball, it's not explosive, the defense is there.

703
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: We saw that, you know in the year's pre PJ. Fleck.

704
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've sort of we've become too incompetent on

705
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: offense to feel good about the like row the boat?

706
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Are you elite today? Are you elite? Every morning?

707
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: Wasn't last season supposed to be the season where we

708
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: turned a Greek rifle or as we call him, the

709
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Greek freak, Athan caliac Manus. We were going to turn

710
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: him a loose baby. This was going to be a passing.

711
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

712
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: Nope, speaking of another one in the Big ten where

713
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: it was, and that's just really disappointing. It feels like

714
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: there is more meat on the bone there. And I

715
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, I don't know if the added

716
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: pressure of a tougher schedule and a more competitive conference

717
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: is going to make Minnesota and PJ Fleck into a

718
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: better situation. I would agree that the floor has raised,

719
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: and that is good because Minnesota, for a good long

720
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: time was not good at all. So they're at least

721
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: now a consistent Bowl team for the most part.

722
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

723
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I just that big personality has

724
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: not yet delivered in the way that I would have hoped.

725
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: I agree, Who do you got next?

726
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: All right? I have Sunny Dyke's in the Big twel

727
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: my god tie the honeymoon. Things were fiery in Bali, right,

728
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: couldn't keep their hands off of each other?

729
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: And why going to be able to look at Sunny

730
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: Dike's the same after you said that, continue.

731
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: Sunny Dikes and TCU destroyed that hotel room. Okay, that's

732
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: sweet in Bali. You know what I'm talking about Tie.

733
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: People knew they'd be good for each other, Sunny Dyke

734
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: said SMU right beforehand. But from that honeymoon, they now

735
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: have triplets and they don't have a plan. They're trying everything.

736
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: They're hiring new position coaches, they're hiring new coordinators. It's

737
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: not going super well. The childcare hasn't been incredible.

738
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: I have a friend that sort of did this very

739
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: thing continue really kind of.

740
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: It's just unclear what's the plan here. They're working on solutions,

741
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: they know solutions are needed. Fire's not gone. It's just

742
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: not what it was in Bali Tie, right, It's just

743
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: not what it was. And maybe it was because things

744
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: were so smooth right away. They inherited a beautiful house

745
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: from some long lost relative who passed away, and they're like,

746
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at all that this is is

747
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: a full there's cars, there's a everything is taken care of.

748
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: They inherit so much this couple.

749
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: Are you describing a relationship that is more in lust

750
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: than in love.

751
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's more in less than in love,

752
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: because I think there is potential to build something here,

753
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: but I think because it was so fiery so early,

754
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: that you're chasing something which isn't always the best way

755
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: to approach a long term relationship. And I think they

756
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: know this, but they're trying to figure this out with triplets,

757
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and it's you know, you're down on sleep, Like there's

758
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: weird apple sauce everywhere. Like things just went so downhill

759
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: so quickly. In terms of the high eyes. It was

760
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: a tough pregnancy, you know, obvious triplets, you're the bellies

761
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: expanding like crazy, Like there's just things got so real

762
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: in this marriage so quickly. That's all. I think The

763
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: marriage is fine. I think you know, I think both

764
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: sides appreciate each other. But there is definitely like a

765
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: growing shadow about how are we going to get through this? Yeah,

766
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of new conference members. You know, you're not

767
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: popping as one of the like powers at the moment

768
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: because of the down year in twenty twenty three. Quarterback

769
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: is an open question. Defense is an open question with

770
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: the changes there. So I don't think the marriage is

771
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: in a bad state, but there's definitely a need to

772
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: approach some of these issues.

773
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: There are some issues there. Yeah, there are some issues there.

774
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,959
Speaker 1: Look, maybe you get back to Bali eventually. Right down

775
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: the line, the kids have grown up a little bit.

776
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: It's a long flight, and maybe you rekindle some of

777
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: that magic then, But for right now, let's just focus

778
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: on putting one foot in front of the other.

779
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Let's get through today.

780
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all you're describing a little bit of like

781
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: what could be White Loadus Season.

782
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: Four, honey Dyke's in Bali where.

783
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: They go to try and you know, rekindle the relationship. Yeah,

784
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: and then something ghastly happens. Could see that, could see

785
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: that happening, not rooting for it, that honeymoon in Bali.

786
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: And there were signs, there were signs that you know,

787
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: there was some there were some curves ahead, some uneven terrain,

788
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: but even still, how do you look back on that

789
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: with nothing but fondness? No?

790
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean it ran a little hot in the beginning,

791
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: didn't it.

792
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: It really did.

793
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

794
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 3: We didn't see that coming.

795
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: Who do you have next?

796
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: My last one that I have a mylast's patent or douzy?

797
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: Okay.

798
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: I think this is a loving marriage, I really do.

799
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 3: I think this is another ma.

800
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: I think pat and Ardoozi is perfect for Pitt. I

801
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: think he's hard nosed, he's blue collared, he's outspoken, not

802
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: afraid to speak his mind. He is being paid handsomely.

803
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: He's being paid almost five million dollars at least he

804
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 2: was last season. It was not a good year in

805
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh last year three and nine, but overall sixty five

806
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: and fifty and nine seasons at pitt been to a

807
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: Bowl six times, won the Conference once back in the

808
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 2: year of.

809
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: Can You pickt.

810
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: You know?

811
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: The schedule this season is kind of beautiful for pitt

812
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: They could be one of those teams that is seven

813
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: and five caliber but ends up ten and two and

814
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: the like on the fringes of the playoff conversation.

815
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: Because of the schedule.

816
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: I think we have come to know patn Ardouzi is

817
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: a guy who just sort of figures it out. And

818
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: that was part of the appeal of last season, right.

819
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: We talked about this on our last episode as well,

820
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: where you tend to give Pat Ardoozy the benefit of

821
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: the doubt in the relationship because he's just he just

822
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 2: mcguiver's his way through it, man. He figures things out.

823
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to get his hands dirty, and he

824
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: is used to doing more with less. He is used

825
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: to pumping out premiere talent on that defensive line. He

826
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: is used to getting at least a higher level of

827
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: output from his offense. He's used to just this situation

828
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: where it feels like he shouldn't be doing things as

829
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: well as he does, and he.

830
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: Figures it out.

831
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: Last year it didn't work, But over the long haul,

832
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: we still tend to give him, still tend to give

833
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: him that benefit of the doubt. And I think I

834
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: think Pitt, if we're being honest, realizes the situation that

835
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: they're in. They realize that they might not be the

836
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: destination for the top recruits in the world, that they

837
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: might need to work the portal, that they might need

838
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: to deal with portal losses, that they might need to

839
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: develop from within. Certainly some of the dynamics of the

840
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: new situation have been frustrating for an our doozy.

841
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: He said as much.

842
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 2: He's not afraid to call out other marriages. But I

843
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: think he's a realist. I think he knows who he is,

844
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 2: and I think at the end of the day, his

845
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: honesty goes a long way in keeping that marriage fresh.

846
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: So despite the fact that the results were not there

847
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: a year ago, I still think this is a really

848
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: good situation.

849
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: He's just very specific. He's just so super specific, and

850
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: the specificity is developing defensive talents, beating teams unprepared to

851
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: beat a quality team. And maybe, yes, there's going to

852
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: be that downturn every so often. There's not going to

853
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: be a lot of flash to patn our Doozy, But

854
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: he knows how to fix a washer dryer, right that, Like,

855
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: we're not going to go out and spend a bunch

856
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: of money to buy a new one. I understand, it's

857
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: just a coil issue, right, It's just a motor issue,

858
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: and we can swap that out. We can go to

859
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: the local hardware store and get just a tiny piece

860
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: of equipment for eighteen bucks and we can swap it out.

861
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: There's a certain amount and there's a dependability there with

862
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: Patnardoozy as a partner that like, No, of course, he's

863
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: not going to be the wittiest dude at game night,

864
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to be the life of a party.

865
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: But if your tires get stuck in the mud, he's

866
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: going to know how to fix that, right, He's going

867
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: to know how to deal with everyday elements. And yes,

868
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some years like twenty twenty three, I'll

869
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: call it like a dad Jean's ear. You're like, you

870
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: know how, sometimes you're like you try to update your

871
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: style and you're sixty one and you get a new

872
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: pair of jeans and you're like, nobody over sixty should

873
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: be in jeans. That just looks weird. Don't put on

874
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: jeans sixty one year old. I assume Patnardoozy's around sixty. Like,

875
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: if you saw Pat Nardoozy out and about wearing jeans,

876
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: you're like that those aren't that's not the right look

877
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: for you. And that's okay, And that's not his strength.

878
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: His strength isn't the flash cool guy. The strength is

879
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: getting a little dirty, taking care of business. And you

880
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: appreciate him for what he is, not for what he

881
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: Isn't sure is he gonna fall asleep sometimes during wheel

882
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: of Fortune? Yeah he will, and that's not the best,

883
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: right it's still early in the night. But otherwise the

884
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: bills are paid on time. The oil's changed. That's not

885
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: a euphemism. Literally, he remembers to go get the oil changed, right,

886
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: And there's there's something that like in a very changing world,

887
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, Pat Nardoozy's going to be there to buy

888
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: the Girl Scout cookies. You know, do the everyday things

889
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: that make that make life worth living. That's all. I

890
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I went to Girl Scout cookies, right, But

891
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: you're like, you know, you take care of business. Yeah,

892
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean he's very self aware. Just don't put on

893
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: those jeans.

894
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: I think he knows exactly what he is. He wears

895
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: the new balanced dad shoes, the six o eight or

896
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: eight oh six is whatever they are with pride.

897
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: They're cool now, ty, they're cool now?

898
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's everything's cool if you wait long enough.

899
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: And I just think he's got a really strong sense

900
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: of self. He knows exactly what he.

901
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: Is, and he'll see, you know, he will say embarrassing

902
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: things at like a wedding, Like he'll give a toast

903
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: that goes off the rails, you know, like, well that's

904
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: pat at least not wearing jeans. But that's part of

905
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: the charm, that's part of the full experience. That's true

906
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: quire taste but dependable.

907
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: Choir taste but dependable. You got anybody else, Yeah.

908
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of dudes. I can go over

909
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: it quickly, though. I have Lance Leipold a whirlwind third

910
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: marriage tie. The lance leipold gets along with the kids,

911
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: keeps it spicy, travels, loves projects and fixing things around

912
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: the house. Somebody patent ardoozy in that way. You're like, oh, weird,

913
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: the door is squeaking a little bit. Lance Leipoldt's got

914
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: a thing for that in his Like tool.

915
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: Belt Lance Pott, lancepold Oh, machines saw doesn't use it

916
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: that often, but knows how to if he needs to

917
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: cut down a branch or something.

918
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: Correct. Lance Lightpoldt's changing the air filter exactly how often

919
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: it needs to be changed. And you have to appreciate

920
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: him for that. And look, people see that, they see

921
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: how he is and he gets some flirtations. Ti people

922
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: want that in their lives.

923
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: The type of I don't know if you've ever encountered

924
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: somebody like this, keeps the journal in the glove box

925
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: and marks down the mileage when he fills up the

926
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: gas tank.

927
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: Correct. I have Brent Venables great wedding could tell that

928
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: they were meant for each other, especially after one just

929
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: went through a pretty rocky divorce. You're like, oh my god,

930
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: they are ready for love once again. Oklahoma and Brent Venables,

931
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: big swings High highs Lo Los. I think they're a

932
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: couple that when they're on the road and they're traveling,

933
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: that's when they really grow to appreciate each other. They

934
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: need to keep that spark alive. Oklahoma winning in Dallas

935
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: this past year against Texas playoff team, It's meant a lot,

936
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: but High High's Lo Los in this moment, they just

937
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: need to get to that middle ground. That's what I have, Les.

938
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: I think it's a really strong marriage. I think I

939
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: think they're gonna make it.

940
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: I have gusmels On things are largely fine, but has

941
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 1: habits that can be irksome, MESSI well, disorganized around the house.

942
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: He got all those one point losses last year, defense

943
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: got away from UCF last year. But he is he's

944
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: dedicated to the cause and it seems to be a

945
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: really happy place for him this second marriage, after dealing

946
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 1: with a lot of drama in that first one.

947
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, seems like he's he's like on the hoa board now. Yeah,

948
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: good energy in that house. TI good energy, good energy,

949
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: like feeling feeling secure, Yeah, maybe for the first time

950
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: in forever, and now willing to kind of take the

951
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: next step forward.

952
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: I agree.

953
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: I have Brian Kelly still a good amount of fire.

954
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: But there's no getting around the fact that last year's

955
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: holidays were rough, right, there was a rough stretch, yeah,

956
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: between Thanksgiving and New Year's And that's the defense from

957
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: last year just got away from LSU. Probably uncharacteristic. They

958
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: make the needed changes, hiring in a new defensive coordinator.

959
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: At the same time, though Ty, you look at winning

960
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, Heisman winning quarterback and Jane Daniels kid just

961
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: got into a dream school Ace, the SATs national merit

962
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: scholar prom king. Something's got to be going well in

963
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: that house. Yeah, for that's what happened that.

964
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: The only thing I'd say about b K is very

965
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: focused on appearances to the extent where you wonder, like,

966
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: is this dude a terror behind the scenes?

967
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: Is he is he like a handful.

968
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: Or he's ironing the drapes right, going a little too

969
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: much on everything? Yeah, Yeah, Like you just wonder what's

970
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: actually the Brian Kelly experience?

971
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: What is this person like when he's not putting up

972
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: the appearances tell.

973
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: Us what I have the marriage. I think LSU fans

974
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: are eager to see what the defense looks like this

975
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: coming year, and you lose what Mike Denbrock offensive coordinator.

976
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: But I think the LSU fans, because of the way

977
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: LSU started out in winning the SEC West two years

978
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: ago now that there's still a good amount of faith

979
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: if recruiting can climb a little bit a little bit

980
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: and get into that consistent top five space, top five

981
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: ish space that Brian Kelly. I think right now, the

982
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: big concern is going to be in recruiting and developing

983
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: and keeping defensive players, especially dbs after what we saw

984
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: last year and at a school so rich with dB

985
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: history that we're going to need to see more in

986
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: that department kind of immediately. But beyond that, if the

987
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: defense is fixed and shows signs early of being fixed,

988
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know who they have early on. I think

989
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: they have UCLA right Deshan Foster has LSU on the road,

990
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: so hopefully there's some signs early on that the ship

991
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: is being righted, even with coordinator changes being active in

992
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: the portal, et cetera. But I still think there's a

993
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: good amount of faith and hope that LSU will be

994
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: a playoff team and will cause distress for those around them,

995
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: and it's also a good place, like with the Alabama

996
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: thing as well.

997
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: Do you think there was a need to explain an

998
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 2: awkward text message that he received from Ward Manual.

999
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,479
Speaker 1: Ward Manual left a winky face, left a winky face

1000
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: on Brian Kelly's Instagram page.

1001
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like Michigan was always going to hire shron More.

1002
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: But you know, you read the reports people were people

1003
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: were wondering if.

1004
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: There were foot seats between BK and Michigan.

1005
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that was Brian Kelly putting it out there.

1006
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, so maybe he is leaving the winky face

1007
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: on the Michigan insist.

1008
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Sure, not the other way. He has to explain a

1009
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: comment on LSU's friend like he left something that was

1010
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 1: like borderline inappropriate comment wise on LSU's friends vacation photo

1011
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: on Instagram. There is where it was like, uh, winky, winky,

1012
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: winky at like a bikini picture, and you're just like,

1013
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was a great decision Brian Kelly, Yeah,

1014
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1015
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: That's all anybody else, anybody else.

1016
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: On my list? I have Eli Drinkwitz. This was made partner.

1017
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Last year Right Rec League softball team won the championship.

1018
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: Everything was coming up great for Eli Drinkwitz in this

1019
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: marriage last year and that's after like you appreciated how

1020
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: eager he was in this marriage, but screwed up a

1021
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: little bit too much, screwed up a little like messed

1022
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: up the sink, said a bunch of wrong things, a

1023
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: little bit drunk at a at a neighbor's backyard grill cookout, whatever,

1024
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: like he just he couldn't get it right the first

1025
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: couple of years of this marriage, and you started to

1026
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: have questions about, like, can this dude just like grow

1027
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: up a little bit? And then he did, then he did,

1028
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: and then he absolutely did. Recruiting has been on fire

1029
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: portals in a really good place, like a left tackle

1030
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: of the future from the portal, like the skill talent

1031
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: is there maybe the best defensive lineman in this this

1032
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: past class local Williams non Warre on Warre. There's just

1033
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: it's a good place to be right now. This marriage

1034
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: between Eli Drinkwitz and Miszoo and shaky start. You always

1035
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: appreciated the enthusiasm, but enthusiasm only goes so far. When

1036
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: you kept saying the wrong thing, you kept breaking things,

1037
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: You kept like kind of like a backhanded compliment a

1038
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: little too often he got his act together. That's nice

1039
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: to see.

1040
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: I'm surprised he didn't mention Billy Naper in Florida.

1041
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: That's tough.

1042
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,959
Speaker 2: I feel like that has advanced to the point where

1043
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: maybe we're not maybe they're not talking about it amongst

1044
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: one another, but there have at least been thoughts as

1045
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: to who keeps the dog if things go well.

1046
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: See, I think, yeah, I think this is a tie

1047
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: in kate situation with the telestrator, where it's just like,

1048
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I give it until November twenty twenty five if they

1049
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: get through. Like you and Kate have set an over

1050
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: under privately about this, I mean, I'll say it publicly.

1051
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: The over under in this one is probably what Thanksgiving

1052
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty four we ten twenty twenty four. Yeah,

1053
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: that certainly.

1054
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like doesn't seem like things are going to

1055
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: a good place there with Napier, and I think he's

1056
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: a good coach, but it might just be a really

1057
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: bad situation, Okay, right in saliverbal at gmail dot com

1058
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: obviously hit us up on social media going out to

1059
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,879
Speaker 2: verballers dot com. If you're ever so inclined, let us

1060
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: know what your thoughts are on the state of these

1061
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: and other college football marriages. It is Valentine's Day. At

1062
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: time of recording, Dan Rubinstein thought it was a thematic

1063
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: episode to put out into the ether. We love love,

1064
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: We do love love. We are hopeless romantics at our core.

1065
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: That is all I have on this here episode. Did

1066
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: we want to do like ten bonus minutes for the folks?

1067
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do bonus minutes on how's your marriage?

1068
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: We'll do bonus minutes for the folks that are our

1069
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: patron ties marriage specific on ties marriage. How dare you

1070
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 2: solidverbo at gmail dot com? Again is the email verballers

1071
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: dot com Again is the Patreon. Thanks for playing along

1072
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: with us here on this episode. Hope you and yours

1073
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: wherever you may be, had past tense now as people

1074
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 2: listen to this the day after Valentine's Day. Had a

1075
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: wonderful Valentine's Day. Yes, whether it's a thing you're into

1076
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: or not, hope you just had a good day for

1077
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 2: that guy there, Daniel, for myself, Tie, I don't though

1078
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Speaker 2: You'll see to stay so peace