1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camrid Judge. Hello, Hello, 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of to Teas in a Pod 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: with myself and tam Rid Judge. Hi, tam Haben. 4 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: So much to talk about. 5 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: We have so much to talk about, but before we 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: even talk about any of our personal stuff. We are 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: going to do that in the next episode because we've 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: had a lot going on ourselves, but not as much 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: as some of our other fellow podcasters that we got 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: to dig into this right away and drop this episode. 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: I know, and I'm literally my stomach is in knots 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: because so much was said and I want to say 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: so much and I don't know what I should say 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: and what I shouldn't say. And then she comes after 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: me and I'm like, wait. 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: What, No, you realized that I was up at three 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: in the morning because I'm still on freaking Columbia time, 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: which everyone's laughing at either, like it's a three hour 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: time change. I'm like, but it's still affects a person 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: like me, like I'm up every day at three. I'm 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: like a crazy person. And then this morning at three, 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: I like, go, I can't sleep. I'm trying to Cruise's 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: birthday wish was to sleep in our room. So I'm like, 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: I go into his room and then I'm like, Bethany 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: dropped episode four, and I'm like, oh, I may as 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: well listen to it now. And then I heard your name, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: and then I was like, what started crazily texting you? 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: Should we in the morning? 29 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: Should we talk about that first? 31 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just talk about that right from the get go. Okay, 32 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: so let's before we even get into the and no, no, 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: I think we have to wait. You guys, keep listening. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: We'll get there. Let's start out with just the beginning. 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: It starts out where Bethany releases a podcast with Rachel, 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: which I just need to point out a couple of things. 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: A couple things. 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Well, the main thing that really hits me is one, 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: how is what Bethany is doing with Rachel any different 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: any different network. 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: It's actually worse, just making her the biggest hypocrite of 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: all hypocrites in reality TV. 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: And granted, we are yes all talking about it. And 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: as I heard in Bethany's fourth drop last night, she 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: enjoys us talking about it. She enjoys the hate. She 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: can handle it. 47 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: But she didn't do any homework. That's the problem. She 48 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: didn't know what she was talking about. 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: She didn't know what she was talking about, and she 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: also didn't lead Rachel into being any better of a 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: person than we heard her on the reunion. 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: Now, if anything, I feel like, now that she's done 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: this interview, which she supposedly is not wasn't paid for, 54 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: she is now gonna have just as much hate as 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: she had five months ago. She could have gone to 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: somebody got paid for this interview that was knowledgeable about 57 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: what went down. She could have written a book about it. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: She could have actually went back to the show and 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: got paid and told her side of the story. 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Well, not just that here. The thing that I really 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: struggled with is she's saying, you know, Bethany is trying 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: to say, this is an issue with reality television. I 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: am the reality reckoning of what's happening. But yet it's 64 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: only to Bravo. Where's the news about the Bachelor, where's 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the news about Love Island? Where's the news about all 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: the others With Bravo? 67 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: I mean, the last time she was on Watcher Happens Life, 68 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: she felt like she was set up with Jeff Lewis 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: and ever since then, she's been a spiral of getting 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: back at Bravo and I think that this is her 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: way of doing it. 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: But the problem is it became a huge loss for 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: Rachel and then. 74 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: She didn't care about Rachel. We all know that. 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: She just wants to be on the right side of 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: history if any of this comes down and anything happens 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: with the unions and listen, I am all for people 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: getting paid what they're due, but they're not talking about 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: key players on reality television shows. And the fact that 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: Rachel thought that something that didn't even happen on the 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: show was found out after the fact, she should have 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: been compensated the same amount as people who were on 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: the show for ten years right for her bad behavior 84 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: is confusing to me. She could have come on and 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: taken some ownership and then said I'm trying to get 86 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: myself better. I really screwed up. But she just said 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: the same shit she said in the reunion. And then 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: here's the real kicker. At the end, she said, I'm 89 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: dropping a podcast. I'm going to do a podcast about it. 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: The part that I found the most interesting about this 92 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: interview was when Rachel started opening up about her time 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: and treatment and that Bey just brushes right over that. 94 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: What about, like, let's get into what doing pageants as 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: a small child did to change your perception on how 96 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: you thought about yourself, why you believed that your beauty 97 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: was sought from other people, those types of things. This 98 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: was a point to really dig deep into the psyche 99 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: and help other women who are attracted to men that 100 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: don't treat them right. But instead it was all about Bethany. 101 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: I had to laugh at the fact that after this 102 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: podcast dropped, she went on to brag that she's the 103 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: number one worldwide podcast. But yet she was okay with 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: the things that she had brought up. I mean, talk 105 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: about hypocrite. 106 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: What about when she said my intern Like, if you're 107 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: a kind, empathetic woman and you're watching somebody who's just 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: gotten out of a mental facility and you say to 109 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: them in a laughing way, I pay my interns more 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: than you made on vander Pump Rules, it's nasty. 111 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean, Bethany said horrible things about it. 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: We can be nasty, so believe me. 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: It was just self serving. The whole thing was self serving. 114 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: She didn't Rachel know favors whatsoever. She had said horrible 115 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: things about her own cast members on Real Housefives of 116 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: New York. Do you know what, Bethany, you went in 117 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: reality You promoted your business, you sold it for millions, 118 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: then you left. 119 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. You could have at this point 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: capitalized on all of the things that Rachel could have 121 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: done to Like, look, if you look at Tom Sandoval. 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Granted he was a villain as well, they are both 123 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: in the wrong, but. 124 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: He is bringing that up. 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he as using it to capitalize for himself. He's 126 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: got one on tour. He did this, he did whatever. 127 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: He's back on the show. He negotiated. Rachel just needed 128 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: a better negotiator because clearly she still wants to be 129 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: in the public eye, right, which is fine. We're all 130 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: fame hungry, all of us. That being said, take ownership 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: for that fact. 132 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: Like, she could be capitalizing on this just as much 133 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: as everybody else's, but she's not. She chose to. 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. 135 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: There's rumors out there that she was paid, that she 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: wasn't paid. I don't really care if she was or wasn't. 137 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: This did not help her at all. Go write a book. 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: Have helped her? Is if she if she really wanted 139 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: to come on. Her mom's a big fan of Bethany. 140 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: If she wanted to come on Bethany's podcast, do do 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: an episode, have it go worldwide, and on that episode 142 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: solely say you guys have really I fucked up? 143 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she dine it, she took I. 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Made I made mistakes. We all do, and you know what, Bethany, 145 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: and also hold Bethany accountable saying, Bethany, I remember when 146 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: you said to Luanne she was a slut and all 147 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: of these things. I want you to imagine what you 148 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: would have said in that moment if your husband at 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: the time slept with somebody on your show and your 150 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: home while you were out of town mourning your grandmother 151 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: who just passed away. I get it, I get it, 152 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I get where I fucked up. I made mistakes, but 153 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the vitriol afterwards has been too much for me and 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: I can't handle it. All of that, I. 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Understand, Yeah, but she didn't it because it was all 156 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: about herself. This is all a part of her dealing 157 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: with the unions and her attorneys and trying to make 158 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: a point, and it didn't go over very well. 159 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Okay, So it starts out we're getting a 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of back and forth. You're seeing she's naming producers 161 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: at this point, she's naming other housewives. She Now there's 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: conflicting things about how much money Rachel made her final 163 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: season because the number was thrown out three hundred and 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand. I'm assuming that is a cumulative amount. That 165 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: being said, if you're on how long was she on 166 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: the show one season as a full timer, she would 167 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: be her second season as a full timer, and then 168 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: she was on like they don't call it friends of 169 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: a van der Pup rules, but like she was on 170 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: sporadically before. So of course she is not going to 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: make the same as someone that is on ten years. 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, it. 173 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't work like that. I don't care how big the 174 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: scandal is. 175 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Five years. 176 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the scandal and oh camera, you didn't film 177 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: it right, you only filmed it after the fact, and 178 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: saying things like the like that instead of just then 179 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: just letting it be. Then she comes for Lalla about 180 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: the making money off it's all about money, making money 181 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: off her. 182 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: House, and then how I mean making money off of 183 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: the scandal, then saying like she had to throw that 184 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: little dig in there and then she went and bought 185 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: a house in Palm Springs, right out from under Brocket 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: and Sina. 187 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, there's a complete vlog out there where Sina says 188 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: she's so happy that Laala bought the house next her, 189 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: so the girls can grow up together and they have 190 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: this relationship. So it just makes her look like she's 191 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: been scanning the Internet on things to pick up on, 192 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: versus just taking accountability and also saying, I'm a flawed person. 193 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: I messed up. And you know what, I came on 194 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: reality television because I wanted to be famous and I 195 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: felt famous, and the more that I got into it 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: and this man made me feel special. We were both 197 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: the wrong. And it doesn't matter how close I was 198 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: with Ariana because I knew she existed. 199 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: So, yes, we're all young, we're all made mistakes, we're 201 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: all you know, assholes most of us. But I don't know. 202 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Then oh gosh, Okay. 203 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Then there's so hard not to get so heated about 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: all this. 205 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I know there's so much because now Bethany is online 206 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: fighting with everybody, calling everybody haters, and listen, there are 207 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: times where I will fight back with people online. And 208 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: there are times when I can listen to what somebody 209 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: said and go, oh, you know what, you're right, Like, 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: I forget what show it was. But there was one 211 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: show where we made a mistake and we didn't do 212 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: our research properly, and people called us out on it. 213 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: In the next podcast, we came on and said, hey, 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: sorry we did. We were a little half assed there 215 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and we're sorry about that. Blah blah blah. We're not 216 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: calling everybody that has an opinion a hater, right, And 217 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: then Bethany's defending Bravo against the accusation she now accuses 218 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: them of. Twenty eighteen. She says, hello, Aviva Dresher, as 219 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: the person responsible for putting you on Real Housewive of 220 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: New York, I take offense to you misrepresenting the truth 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: and saying producers prouded you to drink. As someone here 222 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: since day one with thirteen years of reality TV experience, 223 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: it is a flat out falsehood, so. 224 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: So contradicting yourself hypocrite. I mean, Bethany was one that 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: would go after her cast members all the time on 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: National TV. To Luanne, you are a hypocrite. You fuck 227 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: everyone you pretend that you don't. You are a slut, 228 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: You're a liar, you're a hypocrite, You're a snake. To Kelly, 229 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: you have psychological and emotional problems. This is not normal person. 230 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 2: It's like talking to Humpty dumpty. To Kelly, you are 231 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: the most unintelligent person I've ever been around. Luanne exactly, 232 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: you dumb drag queen. I don't like you, and I 233 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: think you're a snake. To Sonya, I don't want anything 234 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: to do with you. I think you're a fraud. You 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: come up with fake businesses and nobody buys any but 236 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 2: I think it's all bullshit. So it's okay for her 237 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: to say all these things, but then sit with Rachel 238 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: and say in tears, oh my god, wow, fuck go 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: fuck they told you to fuck. She's greater. I mean, 240 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: if you were my daughter, I would kill somebody for this. 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: But yet she did. I mean she is like the 242 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: worst actress, while. 243 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: Also reminding us three times that she didn't watch the show, 244 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Yes three times. This this podcast is going to make 245 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: you worldwide number one. After you've been just doing all right, 246 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: do your homework. The second we found out we were 247 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: having andy on, we read that we didn't even read, 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: and we read that book in twelve hours. 249 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: I know, I mean, I've always liked Bethany and respected 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: her as a business person, but I found this interview 251 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: to be disturbing, self serving, and she just she didn't 252 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: do Rachel any justice whatsoever. 253 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I just really felt bad for Rachel because at the 254 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, during the reion, when all the 255 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: online hate was so bad, I had turned on my 256 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: opinions and I said, listen, guys, everyone back up. I 257 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: feel bad for Rachel. It's getting too intense. Nobody deserves 258 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: this much hate. But then Rachel just dug a bigger 259 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: hole for herself by taking zero accountability and then just 260 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: honestly made her look worse. 261 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 2: I know, I mean, I remember being on watching her 262 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Happen's Life with Andy with Lala and Andy, and I 263 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: talking in front of Lalla in saying, listen, Rachel and 264 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Tom are human beings. They do not deserve this much 265 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: hate coming at them right now. It's a lot. And 266 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: Andy Andy a green so now listening to the podcast 267 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: and listening to her go after Andy saying that there's 268 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: hippo laws he broke. First of all, if you're not 269 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: a doctor, you can't break a hippolawy, Andy's not a doctor. 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: What do you mean, doctor Cohen? 271 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: I know, it's like he's breaking hippolaws. No, that's something 272 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: between doctors. That's not anything to do with an executive 273 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: producer of a show. 274 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: And also every single relationship that they talked through, they 275 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: all they had a justification on why they did it. 276 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: And listen, I know we I'm going to say this 277 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: still I blew in the face. We all do jacked 278 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: up stuff on television, we all do jacked up stuff 279 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: in real life. But the main point that I got 280 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: from this interview was I wasn't paid enough to do 281 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: the shitty things that I did, but you did them 282 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: off camera? What do you want? Golf collapse. 283 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. It's so frustrating. And then she's getting 284 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: all this hate, right, so what does she do? She 285 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: double down and talked about me and VICKI fifteen years ago, 286 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: naked wasted. 287 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Naked wasted, and then I'm sorry to say, it brings 288 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: up your child. I know. 289 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is again Bethy not doing her homework and 290 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: contradicting herself. Once again. She said multiple times in an 291 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: interview with Rachel that the housewife is unscripted, highly edited 292 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: show that capitalizes on drama and basically what you see 293 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: is not necessarily the truth, but then brings up a 294 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: scene that is so far from the truth and goes 295 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: after my son, which is not. Naked wasted was a 296 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: term that me Vicky used to use. It was no different. 297 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: Because you guys would get naked yourselves, right. 298 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: No, it was nothing to do with naked. I was 299 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: like saying, oh my god, if you don't do that, 300 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you. No, You're not gonna kill somebody. 301 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: It's just a term naked wasted that means we're gonna 302 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: get drunk tonight. Yeah, that's it, like tequila used to 303 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: you know, used to say, like, oh I drink tequila. 304 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: My clothes fall off. Had nothing to do with getting 305 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: her naked at all. What it had to do with 306 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: and nobody forced alcohol down anybody's throat. Production didn't. I didn't, 307 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: VICKI dinn't it. We saw a different Gretchen when cameras 308 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: were off because she would get drunk and do and 309 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: say things that she wouldn't do on camera. Right, So 310 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: when she was drinking and she this is the first 311 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: time that the show really captured her drinking. She started 312 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: talking to my son. Then she started saying to him, Oh, 313 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: you know I'm hotter than your mom, right, your mom 314 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: knows that. And then even Gina Koh said in the 315 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: Housewife book, she asked, Ryan, can you take Gretchen to 316 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: the bathroom, show her where the bathroom is. The mics 317 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: were on, everything was heard, There was no forcefulness, there 318 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: was no the whole thing taken out of context. When 319 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: I watch it myself, I'm like, what the fuck does it? 320 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: What happen? That is not what happened. Now, if I 321 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 2: sat down and told Bethany my story of what went 322 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: down that night, she would have been advocating for me. 323 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god, the network, did you dirty? Yeah, I mean, 324 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: she's just such just pisses me off to no degree. 325 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just didn't under stand even the 326 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: point of why she brought up that story other. 327 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: Than well, she's trying to maybe maybe jealousy that we 328 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: were able to be number one without breaking a scan 329 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: of all. 330 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: And yeah, right, I don't get it. But in the 331 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: most recent episode, you realize how much like when she's 332 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: the I I I I'm. 333 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: This, I'm this, I'm that, and I'm like, she's always 334 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: been extremely self centered. You can see that in the 335 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: time she was on Housewives. You know, she went off. 336 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Bethany, you went off to do multiple other 337 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: television shows that didn't make it. 338 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: But yet each time, now she's saying she pulled herself 339 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: out of it, she didn't want to do it, she 340 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: was done with it. She's now made the decision. Like, 341 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: but then you can see that she's been online reading 342 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: what people are saying. She's like, you guys all thought 343 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: I was going to start a makeup line because of 344 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: all my makeup, but I wasn't I And I'm like, no, clearly, 345 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: because you're making money off TikTok, you don't need to 346 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: start a makeup line because you make just as much 347 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: money and ads. My point is, if you're going to 348 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: be an advocate for the people you're bringing somebody from 349 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: a mental health facility, set them up to succeed in 350 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: the interview. Set them up. You are are experienced, you're smart, 351 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: you're dynamic, you're a good business woman. You know exactly 352 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: what that girl needed to do not to bury herself, 353 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: and you just let her bury it. But one thing 354 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: we also need to discuss that did resonate with me 355 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: was dog conversation. 356 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when. 357 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: She when Rachel brought up the phone indicated you right. 358 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: I was like, listen all this interview. Do I believe Rachel? 359 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: But this part I do. 360 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily believe everything she said in that interview. 361 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: I don't, but I don't feel I don't feel like 362 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: she told us anything new. It was new other than 363 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: the dogs, the dog dogs situation. 364 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the and the cat sitting for murcurr cat 365 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: because she couldn't have the mercury cat around her daughter. 366 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Even she was entitled about that, like if you don't 367 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: want to live at somebody's house and take care of 368 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: their cat, don't do it. Yeah. 369 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, I don't care what she had 370 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: to say and come out with. Nothing she's gonna say 371 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: is gonna be right unless she said I was sorry, 372 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is horrible. It's ruined my life. I'm 373 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: trying to, you know, get myself out. But it wasn't. 374 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: That wasn't the converse. 375 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: It was all Yeah, it was. 376 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: It was it was a poor me on Rachel's part 377 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: and Bethany just trying to put the fucking screws to Bravo. 378 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if anything, I think it just shows 379 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: this isn't any kind of reckoning. This is a money 380 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: grab the same way that everybody wants money, and it 381 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: just the person that is struggling, the person that you 382 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: know needs needs the financials is now limited herself from 383 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: even more opportunities by doing this. So I don't know, 384 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: I think. And then also things that Rachel said that 385 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: were a little confusing to me. Rachel said she was 386 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: punished for speaking to prop Parazzi before the reunion, so 387 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Bravo took her mental health advocate away. 388 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: Bullshit. Bravo doesn't force us to drink. Bravo doesn't deprive 389 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: us of food, They don't deprive us of sleep. They 390 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 2: don't do anything. At any given moment. You can say 391 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to bed, I don't want I don't want 392 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: to drink anymore. 393 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: You are in charge of your own you are in. 394 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: Charge of your own person. Nobody, they don't do anything. 395 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: There's no handcuffs at all. 396 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: And then Tom Sandoval was offered a producer credit and well, 397 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: like Listen, Tom is also the villain and he has 398 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: chosen to run with it by having a tour by 399 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: doing a million things you didn't and that is something 400 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: that is going to you know, it is what it is. 401 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: You could go on and say, listen, guys, I fucked up. 402 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: Please stop hating me online. It's killing me, it's making me. 403 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: I'm a person that needs self validation and it hurts 404 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: my feelings and I can't take it. And I'm so 405 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: sorry for what I did. And Arianna, I am so 406 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: sorry to you. Not I'm not. I was never that 407 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: close to Ariana. 408 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: Stop stop, just stop. 409 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: I know. 410 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh wow, she's got to be kicking herself on the 411 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 2: ass for doing this. 412 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I mean, Bethany may have convinced 413 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: her that what she was doing is right and that 414 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: people are just being haters, but really it was. 415 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: It was the wrong thing to do. 416 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I have another question. Would Andy 417 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: even be considered Rachel's employer? Doesn't he I mean, he's not, 418 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: he's not, he's not. They kept saying that, I'm like, 419 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: he's not her employer. 420 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: This is always the line that you don't quite know. 421 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: Do you do I work for Evolution or do I 422 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: work for Bravo? 423 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 1: Right, But the same way that you work for Bravo, 424 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: So does Andy, right, Yeah. 425 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: So Andy works for Yeah exactly. 426 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: And they've all This also proved that Bethany has a 427 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: bone to pick with Andy. She also clearly has a 428 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: bone to pick with every. 429 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: Which is mind blowing to me because Andy and Bethany 430 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: were very close back way I d over going to 431 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: the Hampton's and running into them at dinner. They were 432 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 2: always super close. 433 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: On this last pot where she talks about you, she 434 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: also is like, listen, I know that you guys know 435 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: I pitched a show and blah blah blah, and I 436 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: decided to pull away from it because there was shady. 437 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: She was talking about whatever production company then, and then 438 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: she starts bringing up our producer friend, saying his name 439 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: multiple times. I'm not even going to say it brings 440 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: up Bravo, which. 441 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: Is the nicest guy in the entire world, and please like, 442 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: he's just not even it's not even feasible, I mean. 443 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: But then she went on to say that Evolution was 444 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: part of the production for Big Shot on HBO Max, 445 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: and that she talks about how filming the first episode 446 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: was brutal for the people and they were in her 447 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: house and they were it was cold and they were 448 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: leaving ring stains on the from the drinks and blah 449 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: blah blah. They kept him freezing till two am. I'm like, 450 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: you just told us this is your show. 451 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: Right in your and they filmed in her house. 452 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Yes, the first I didn't watch the show. 453 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: So I didn't. But it didn't last so maybe she's 454 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: bitter about that. 455 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was a lot. But according 456 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: to the fans, and by. 457 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: The way, if you're filming in your house, anything gets damaged. 458 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: If there's a ring stain on your counter, whatever, they 459 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: fix it. 460 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: But also it says somebody wrote to Bethany, why is 461 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: it okay for Bravo to exploit her? Why is it 462 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: not okay for Bravo to exploit her situation? But it 463 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: is okay for you, she writes back, her voice her words, 464 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: her choice. So was going on the television show, so 465 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: was sleeping with a man that is in a relationship. 466 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: All of these things are her choice. Didn't we make 467 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: fucked up choices? 468 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: The interview was controlled and directed by Bethany, not by Rachel. 469 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: She was answering questions. She didn't add more to it 470 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: other than answering questions, and the questions were not the 471 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: right questions to ask a girl that just got out 472 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: of a mental health facility. 473 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Nor could she feel empowered or in a better place 474 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: at this point. And yes, I do hope that her. 475 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: You know, she's now starting a podcast where she talks 476 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: about being the other woman and she's going to have 477 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: on relationship advice from different people to show that side. Yes, 478 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: that is a great idea. Yes, if that interview would 479 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: have shown your remorse, had has shown your growth, If 480 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: and you would have asked you the appropriate questions to 481 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: show the work you've done on yourself and still the 482 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: growth that you need to make, I'd be really interested 483 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: to tune in. 484 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: Now. She said one thing that I thought, oh god, bullshit. 485 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: She said she would never go back on reality TV. 486 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: How long before you think she's on a show. 487 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: She said she never would because she just likes that 488 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: she can edit her own youtubes and put them right 489 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: up without anything. Her saying that is like me saying 490 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: I would never go back on reality TV. 491 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: I say I give it a year, she'll be back 492 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: on some reality show. 493 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: She'll either be producing a reality show or back on something. 494 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: Okay, don't get crazy producing a reality show. 495 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's what she does. That's what she is. She's 496 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: the producer of Big Shot, like she sells. 497 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm talking about Rachel. I'm like, I get 498 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: crazy here producing. 499 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Oh, Bethany's gonna I mean, Rachel is going to be 500 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: on something for sure. 501 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: But she had said she will never go back to 502 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: reality TV. Never. 503 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: She also said that she was going to go get 504 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: help mentally and then want to do something and like 505 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: go back to school or do whatever. I thought that's 506 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: where the interview was going to end, like I'm getting 507 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: out of the spotlight. This is too much for me. 508 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: It's put me in a negative place. But she didn't. 509 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: She went the other way I'm going on. 510 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: But I do give her credit. I do give Rachel 511 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: credit for knowing that she was in over her head 512 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: when this all went down and put you know, admitted 513 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: herself into a mental health facility. I'm sure now I 514 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: to deal with that. I give her so much credit 515 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: for that, and she stayed there longer than she was 516 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: supposed to. But coming out and doubling down not a 517 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: good idea. 518 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Well, that just reminded me of another thing. I missed 519 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: opportunity for Bethany to give Rachel a voice on things 520 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: could have changed their perception her. Rachel started to open 521 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: up about how she was adopted about all that, and 522 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: that was brushed over as well. 523 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: I know, I found that quite interesting, and I was like, oh, oh. 524 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Here, okay, No, we're moving along. Let's pageants. Oh no, 525 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: we moved right along, Like tell me what Tom. 526 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: Was telling you, tell me what he was saying? How 527 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: did he pull you in? When did you know? All 528 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: these questions? Nothing? 529 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: It was why did you think it was okay to 530 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: hook up with the other Tom on the show? 531 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: Had she watched the show and done her homework, she 532 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: would have had better questions. But but that wasn't her intention. 533 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 2: Her intention was to try to make the network look that. 534 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish it would have. I don't know. Another 535 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: fan said Andy shouldn't have allowed Rachel to be verbally 536 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: assaulted those types of things. M hm, that is that. 537 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: Is the reunion. But also Andy also told me it 538 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: was a lot. He didn't agree. He didn't but think 539 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: that what they did was okay. 540 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: But Bethany acting as if she would never do such 541 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: a thing. 542 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: Oh god, And I could you imagine some of the 543 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: things that she said about some of her cast members, 544 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: give me a break. She has a sharp tongue. That's 545 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: like me saying, oh my god, I would never say 546 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 2: anything bad about any of my cast members. 547 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: Come on, that's like me saying I'm not a no 548 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: at all. 549 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, just kidding. But I did get this. 550 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: I've gotten multiple dms about this, Teddy. This is just one. 551 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: I know you won't read this. I did, but Bethany's 552 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: an interview with Rachel made me change my opinion of you. 553 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: Third part about dog and LVP. I realized LVP was 554 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: behind everything all along. I always felt like you and 555 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: everyone ganked up on her. I was wrong. So this 556 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: is a key thing that I want to point out, 557 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: not because I want to rehash the freaking Doggie Git. 558 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Production was left out of that whole entire thing, which 559 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: is why it came back and looked like such a 560 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: shit show. We were never forced to do it. It 561 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: was something that happened behind the scenes between me and LVP, 562 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: which is what created this crap of a mess that 563 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: ended up happening. So that's why when you're watching scan 564 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: of all things aren't adding up because it happened all 565 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. 566 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: It's not being pretty hard. 567 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Yes. Okay, Well, so we're gonna take a little break 568 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back and discuss other housewife headlines. 569 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: All right, So our first housewife headline comes from Lala Kent. 570 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,239 Speaker 1: This reality tea article says Lalla Kent throws shade at 571 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Orange County newbies. Lala has words of 572 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: cast for Real Housewives of Orange County newbe Jennifer Paedranti, 573 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: on the August ninth episode of her podcast Law address 574 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: the rumors going around OC and commented on Ryan's trustworthiness. 575 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: She says, there's something about Ryan's eyes that I do 576 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: not like. They seem a little dark. And you know 577 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: what I've learned, when you are talking to someone, you 578 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: have to look at their pupils, what they do. Because 579 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: I was listening to this behavior specialist she works strictly 580 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: with like narcissism, and when the pupil dilates, it means 581 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: they are in. It's almost like an animal who's going 582 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: to kill. He has some eyes that I feel I've 583 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: seen before. I've seen them with other men on reality 584 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: television who have turned out to be not great guys. 585 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: So just like, beware of that. So this is Laala's 586 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: cautionary tale. She clearly doesn't know. 587 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: It's a Virgo thing. I'm telling you you you can 588 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: shame all virgos. No, I'm not shaming that, Oh you're 589 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: a Virgo's a virgo. No, it's being able to sense 590 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: and tell and know, like when it comes to guys 591 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: and seeing them like obviously she didn't have a great 592 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: experience with her ex, but to be able to look 593 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: at somebody and go nope. 594 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if watching it now she's seeing something she 595 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't see before. Who jen h, I don't know. 596 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: We're not speaking. 597 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: All right, Oh my gosh. 598 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: Either way, Yeah, I mean, I don't think you need 599 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: to hear from me about my opinion on what Lala 600 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: is saying. 601 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: I'll say it. 602 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: I'll say it for the reunion in a couple of weeks. 603 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh baby, but I do think that now. 604 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm back to the Bethany interview. What about how 605 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: Rachel says that Lala is just coming for this whole 606 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: situation because she's out to get Randall. No, once you 607 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: have been burned by a particular type of person, then 608 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: you start to see those qualities and you want to 609 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: learn everybody of them. Do I think that Lalla went 610 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: over yes, of course, but that's what all of us do. 611 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: We all go overboard. But come on, so, Real House. 612 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: Of Atlanta fans SLAM Productions decision to cut Kenya Moore's 613 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: spa opening scenes. So basically what happened is during Sunday's 614 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: airing of Atlanta, fans began to comment on the fact 615 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: that Marlow's charity event was showcased in Kenya's opening of 616 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: her spot was cut. Kenya tweeted, I think it was 617 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: edited out despite having the entire cast there except for 618 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: one and Cynthia Bailey and Claudia Jordan, and it being 619 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: my main storyline. It seems to be a general consensus 620 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 2: among Real Housewives of Atlanta viewers that if such a 621 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: big moment is happening in Kenya's life, it should have 622 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: been showcased on the show, and it wasn't. So I 623 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: had something similar like that happened to me. I had. 624 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: It was the year that I got fired. I had 625 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: a big grand opening for Vina CBD all housewife event. 626 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: For the twelve years I was on TV, whenever there 627 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: was a big housewife event, all housewive event, it was 628 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: never cut. You know, that those are the ones that 629 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: are going to be shown. Yeah, but for some reason 630 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: it was cut after that. We I think we went 631 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: on a trip and it didn't make sense if the 632 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: arguing like it just a lot of pieces don't add 633 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 2: up sometimes and sometimes like it was the first time 634 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: in history for me that it was an all housewife 635 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: event was cut. 636 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: So do you think, in your opinion, clearly we know 637 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: nothing that this is Kenya's last season. Do you think 638 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: she's about to get the boot? I don't know about 639 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: her last season. Do you think she's about to be paused? 640 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 641 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 2: I hope not. I couldn't imagine that she's such a 642 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: key player on the show that it's like, I don't 643 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: see that happening. But it does scare me that they 644 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: cut out an all housewife event, And it's very frustrating 645 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: as a cast member when you see people like that year, 646 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: like Kelly Dodd was showcasing a positive beverage that she 647 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: didn't even own but acted like she did. 648 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it's one thing when let's say a housewife 649 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: creates this new line or whatever. Like I remember there 650 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: was something at one of our like finale episodes where 651 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: one of the Housewives on Beverly Hills. All of a sudden, 652 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: it's like, and by the way, I'm creating a blah 653 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: blah blah. And I was like, they're a lot. They're 654 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: not going to show this because one, you're doing this 655 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: solely for the show. This isn't authentic to who you are, 656 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and this isn't a legitimate business. This is probably going nowhere, 657 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: this is stopping here. This is probably not gonna be 658 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: your storyline for next year. But when it comes to 659 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: your venus CBD, or when it comes to Kenya's hair 660 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: care line, clearly those have both been shown on that 661 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: season throughout and on your arc of being a Housewife. 662 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: So it I mean, it was very frustrating. I have 663 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: not heard Kenya really talk about it too much in 664 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: a negative light. I've heard it twata. Well, she tweeted that, 665 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 2: but she wasn't She's not crying and oh my god, 666 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: how can I at least we're not seeing it. 667 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 668 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Well, I also heard that the executive producer of the 669 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: show had comments because he was getting so much hate. Well, 670 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: it's not. 671 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: Kenya did talk a little bit in her interview with 672 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: Carlos King about production stuff. So I have a feeling 673 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: things are going to shift around on that show in 674 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: some capacity for next season. 675 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: But well, if she gets fired, then we're gonna know. 676 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: If they cut your business out, you're gone. 677 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: But actually there's there's no truth to that because my 678 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: entire All in by Teddy retreat was shown and I 679 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: was still fired. 680 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: So you know, they gave you a little present as 681 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 2: they kicked you out the door. 682 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: They gave me a little present. Here you go. You 683 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: could take this on your way out. Hey, baby, I 684 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: do appreciate it, but I take it you. 685 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: Nugget. I did. I saw the pictures of Kenya's salon 686 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: and it looked beautiful, and I'm like, I would have 687 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: loved to see this. 688 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: We would have said we'd love to see it, and 689 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: then when we see it, we'd complain about it and 690 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: we'd be like, oh, nobody cares about anybody's business, as 691 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: this is what happens. 692 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 2: Well, they could have had like a grand opening party 693 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 2: where it was just in the background, and you know, 694 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 2: shit happens at opening parties or charity events. 695 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: I know. I'm so great, Dauri, thank you so much 696 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: to showing up to my workout event and full glam, 697 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: because that's what gods. I appreciate you. 698 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 2: You never know what's going to happen. 699 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: Right. The next one is NBC Bravo reality Stars demand 700 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: the right to speak about racism, sexism, revenge porn on TMZ. 701 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: The attorney Brian Friedman fired off another letter to the companies, 702 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: claiming the NDAs violate California law, which prohibits companies from 703 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: forcing employees to sign NDA's prohibiting them from disclosing unlawful conduct. 704 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: Freeman wants NBC Universal and Bravo to fully release the 705 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 1: reality stars from their NDAs, but at a minimum acknowledge 706 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: they can discuss alleged elite conduct during production. Basically, what 707 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: they're saying is that the NDAs that these stars have 708 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: signed are not legal in binding, and they want them released. 709 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: They're also claiming that the networks are manufacturing mental instability 710 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: by planing cast members with alcohol while deprived them of 711 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: food and sleep. Freedman also said they have deprived cast 712 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: members of mental health treatment even then they display alarming 713 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: size of mental deterioration. This goes back to my original point. 714 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: Why is this solely going to Bravo? Why is this 715 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: not all reality? If you're so, I think. 716 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: We know why that he's got a bone to pick, 717 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 2: a bone to pick. 718 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you research this lawyer, you'll also find 719 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: additional information on him. So go ahead and you can 720 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: go down that rabbit hole on your page that we yeah, 721 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: we we're gonna let that one be just because. 722 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 2: You don't want to fuck with her with the Actually 723 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: the Daily Mail actually did a long article about him. 724 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can go ahead and do your own research. 725 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: You're welcome. So I guess that's the end of the 726 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Housewife headlines and that's the end of us discussing our 727 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Bethany and Rachel interview. H yeah, so 728 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: we'll be back tomorrow. 729 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: To have to bring my blood pressure down to recap 730 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 2: Atlanta and New York. 731 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: I know, sorry, I'm a little sorry. I'm a little 732 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: revved at those of you who yell at me for 733 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm either not talking loud enough into the mic or 734 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: I gave the mic. I don't. I'm sorry, there's no 735 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: middle ground. I'm a ten or one. But also, why 736 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: was an Orange County on last week? 737 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,479 Speaker 2: I don't know. But what I do know I didn't 738 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: get an answer to why it wasn't airin probably just 739 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 2: a program. I mean, you know how sometimes they skip. 740 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 2: But what I do know is social media was going 741 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: crazy because there was no new episode, which made me 742 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: happen because last year they didn't care if there was 743 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: an episode or not. 744 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: That means they want to see it. They're liking what 745 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: they're saying. 746 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: I just watched next week or this week's episode. 747 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: Great, I can't wait to watch it. And I'll be 748 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: recapping that with Cynthia also later in the week. I'm 749 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: sure I'll have a lot of hot thoughts I missed, 750 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: I missed this. 751 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: Well, you have nothing to go after me about this. 752 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: What episode done? I'm an I'm perfect. 753 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys tune in to tomorrow's episode. 754 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: We'll be recapping all of the TV shows. Hey,