1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to the mon initiation of Texas All 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Access from the Day Texans Radio Studio. I am John 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Harris alongside Mark Van Amir, and we're coming fresh off 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: a jam packed weekend of non Texans football news. Sean 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: Pendergas got married and Mark was m seeing their entrance. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: My daughter was in Dallas. Her movie Ribbons was winning awards. 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Was a great, great weekend. So but it's good to 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: be back to football. Oh and by the way, there 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: was that thing called the Combine up in Indianapolis that 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: went and we'll talk about the Combine because we got 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that we caught up with at 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: the Combine that we'll have in the show. John Murphy, 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: the voice of the Buffalo Bills. He was fun. I 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: think it's the first time Mark that we've had John 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: on with both of us. That was fun. It was 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: a fun conversation and maybe even more fun. Mike Renner, 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: you know of the name Mike Renner, PFF lead Draft 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: and List is going to join deep in myself to 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: talk about not only the Draft but the Bachelor. He 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: was on the Bats Barette about two three years ago 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: and he was on with Clay Harbor if you were 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: Clay Harbor played with the Jacks, yeah, tight end. Yeah, 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: so they were on the show together. Neither one of 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: them won. I can't believe I just found out about 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Clay Harbor. Yeah. I mean I've said we broke that 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: news to you. We told you that we were breaking 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: news years ago. Yeah, Clay Harbor was on and that 28 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: was pretty much dandard his football career because during the 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Bats to Thearette he ends up breaking his wrist. They 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: got them together to play a game of football, and 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: we'll talk with Mike about this. They played a game 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: of football with guys that no business playing football, not 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: all of them. Mike never played football. He's a pretty 34 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: good athlete though. And of course there's Clay NFL player. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: So he comes down on his wrist when he's running 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: the ball. Somebody tackle him and he messed up his wrist. 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: He had to leave the show, and I think at 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: that point never went back to the NFL. That is 39 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: beyond awful for an NFL player. But he did. You 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: go to Bachelor in Paradise, So there's that. Well there's 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, I don't watch those shows much. To me, 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: I know this is missing out I'm missing out, Johnny out. 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: I gotta check it out. You do have to check 44 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: it out. Look, I catch glimpses and I'm like, I 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: don't know if I can get into this. Okay, you 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: like everybody's like, oh, it's a reality show. Its reality show? No, no, 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, what it is? You watch it properly? Comedy. 48 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: It's comedy unintentional. Yes, that's that's the way you've got 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: to watch it, all right. It's comedy because if you 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: think about shows that you like, one of our favorite shows, 51 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, but it called Saul, some of the funniest 52 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: moments in TV happened in those shows. Well because unintentionally funny. Yeah, 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: but any kind of comic relief in Breaking Bad is 54 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: really funny because it's so dark. Right when he throws 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: the pizza up on the roof. I'm not breaking any 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: news with that, am I. I'm not those in spoilers. No, 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm not breaking anything about Bettercall Saw. I've 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: caught up on the first two episodes. I did that 59 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: when we were in Indiana. There's another one tonight, right, No, 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: we're back, We're back on track. Today it's Sunday and Monday. 61 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Last week. I wasn't sure what night the show was 62 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: actually on, So last night I settled in, I was like, 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: oh did it record? No, it's tonight, It's Monday night. 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Mint chocolate chip ice cream cone on the sidewall. Boy, 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go any further with that. I'm not 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna go any further with that. Mark all right, you're 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: ready for some gut reaction, I'm ready, you'll I love this. Okay, 68 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the first two are actually coming from Jacksonville, but I'm 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: doing separately. Okay, okay. Jaguars edge rusher Yannicking Goatway tweets 70 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: out on Monday, thank you to Jacksonville, but essentially see you, Yeah, 71 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: thank you. A few minutes later, Adam Schefter tweets out 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: the Jaguars plan to franchise Yannicking Goatway. What do you 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: make of that situation? Your gut reaction to Yannicking Gockway 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: tweeting he's out but the Jaguars franchising their edge rusher, 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Well in got away knew they were going to franchise him, 76 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: of course, and put that out there. So he's saying, 77 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: and look, the Jags are gonna shop him anyway. It's 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: a franchise and trade. Okay, we've seen this before, and 79 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: he wants to be in another city. He wants to 80 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: play for another organization. He tweeted out that he loves 81 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Duval and loves you guys. I love you guys, the fans, 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: but I don't want to be here in Jacksonville. So 83 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: there's that. So you have Ramsey going last year in 84 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: a trade, you have and Goaqway going this year. Who 85 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: knows who else is going out of there? And it's 86 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: kind of sad for them, Johnny, because you know, we 87 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be hard enough with the free 88 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: agent spree they went on prior to their AFC Championship 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: game run of twenty seventeen. We know it's gonna be 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: hard enough to hold out of those guys to be 91 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: able to have cap room to do anything. But here 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: they are with some of these like really important building 93 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: blocks on their team having gone and going as we speak. 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I I hate to say I feel 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: sorry for another NFL franchise, particularly in the in the division. 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: But you know, we know people who work with and 97 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: around the Jags, you and I both and you especially 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: having lived there. It's it's sad for them that they're 99 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: going through this right now. So you know in gotway, 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I know we have varying opinions on him and what 101 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: kind of locker room guy he might be or might 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: not be or whatever. But look, he playing all out 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: is gonna make a team very happy. I'm curious to 104 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: see what that deal is going to be from another 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: team for his services. How old do you think he is? 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: What is he like? Twenty eight? He's twenty four. He's 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: that young. He's twenty. I thought you were going to 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: go he's older than you think because in college he's 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: one of these guys like Joe Burrows thirty seven years old. No, 110 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: Chris Winky was forty two by the time he hit 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Oh no, I know he's twenty four. Wow, 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. Bob A Koy called and said that sounds young. 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: Remember Mobi was nineteen when he was drafted. Entering his 114 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: fourth season with the Texans. He was still younger than 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: some of the rookies. Okay, ready for next gut reaction. 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: It also, well, it has to do with here we 117 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: just talked about, But potentially I've seen some rumors about 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: another part of the Domino game, the Jaguars have put 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it out there that they would like to trade Nick Foles. 120 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Your gut reaction to that not a surprise, right, They 121 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: want to move on from this. I think they saw it. 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: They didn't see much of Foles, but they saw a 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: bunch of Minshew. And I think that we talked about this. 124 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: If they drafted a guy and had Minshew there, and 125 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: I by saying by saying draft a guy, I don't 126 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: mean particularly early necessarily, but get somebody else in there 127 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: who could possibly play, and there's gonna be a lot 128 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: of opportunity here. You know, even an AJ mccaren type 129 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: of player, right, you could possibly play. It would be 130 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for somebody who, like you know, Mariota. 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know about him, don't. I don't know if 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: that works, but the type of Ryan Tannehill, the type 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: of player who's looking for a shot to play, and 134 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe who hasn't played as much as Tannehill or Mariota, 135 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: but somebody you get my drift here, I think I'm 136 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: a Karen type of resume would be pretty interesting for 137 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars because then they could have those two guys 138 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: compete or give the job to Minshew. And if it 139 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: doesn't work out, you give it to the other guy. 140 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: As far as Foles goes, maybe the Jacks pick up 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: some of the deal, you know, on his way out, 142 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: because I don't know if you get anybody to pick 143 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: up that entire deal. Nobody's gonna trade for Foles as 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: their starter at this point after what happened in Jacksonville. 145 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: They know that You've always pointed this out that in 146 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Philly he had a really good team around him, played well, 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: give him credit, won the Super Bowl, really good team 148 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: that playoff run. And we were a victim of Nick 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Foles in twenty eighteen late in the season. So I 150 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: think that the Jags do trade him, they pick up 151 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: some of the deal. Somebody should get to take a 152 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: shot at Folds as maybe a backup or maybe in 153 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: their situation in their stable. We're gonna have Foles here 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: to possibly compete or be the second guy and fill 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: in be a Ryan Tannehill type. If somebody should falter, 156 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't know whether you know, I don't know if 157 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers would be that kind of team. I doubt it, 158 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: But that sort of situation where it appears they're gonna 159 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: go with Tyrod Taylor, but they're gonna need another option 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: as well. So here's the second part of that. Oh, 161 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: what's the second part of that? That? Now? Oh wow, wow, 162 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: you're good because we mentioned him in a second. But 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: I have I've seen once that news came out, I saw. 164 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Of course, this comes up with pretty much every quarterback situation. 165 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: Nick Foles being traded to Indianapolis culture gut reaction, do it? 166 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: My gut reaction that was, there's no bleeping way, no way. 167 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, first, you're not gonna trade within a division. 168 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: He'd play better there than Jacksonville's a better team around him, 169 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: offensive line, running game, those ethics and whatever else they'd 170 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: it together around him. But it's not gonna happen. They're 171 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna make it. They're not, judging by the amount of 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: cap space they just had available. And I don't know 173 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: what they're gonna end up with after this free agent 174 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: season here, but they're not gonna make a deal for 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Folds and eat up money for a risk like that, 176 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: no way, Which leads me to this, apparently allegedly, which 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by, to be honest with you, The 178 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: Indianapolis cults are out of the Brady sweepstake on Tom Brady. 179 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: Your gut reaction good, although part of me wanted to 180 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: see it just for like what happens purposes. I wanted 181 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: to see what it looked like in New Jersey. You know, 182 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I've had That's the one thing I've been trying to do. 183 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Its visualized. I close my eyes and visualize Tom Brady 184 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: in a different uniform like that. Close eyes right now, 185 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to vision Tom Brady as a Cincinnati Bengal. 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: And it just like I can't formulate the picture. You 187 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: saw that, Yeah, I've yeah, I've seen. Yeah, that one said, 188 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: I got action. That is no way, there's no chance, 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: there's no way. I don't see that happening at all. 190 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: That one makes way less sense to me than the Colts. 191 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: The Colts would be far more sense to me. Yeah, 192 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: you already. Is everybody gonna just killed Garoppolo because he 193 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: missed a pass? I mean it's funny, like he missed 194 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: a big throw in the Super Bowl with a hundred 195 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: seconds to go. I'm thinking, all right, Yeah, they didn't 196 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: connect on that play. Is that a reason to end 197 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Garoppolo's career with a franchise? You just committed him. I mean, yeah, 198 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, look, it's funny because like 199 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: going into last season, oh, Garoppolo was heard that's the 200 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: reason why they didn't have a good season. Eighteen, it's 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: gonna be totally different, and it was totally different. I'm 202 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: not saying he lit it up, but he played pretty well, 203 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: pretty solid. So you know, I don't know what to 204 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: make of that, all right, But no, Brady and Indy 205 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: according to this report Rivers. I guess what does Rivers 206 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: look like in a cults uniform? In your occisialization you 207 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: have that was that one's very clear? Yeah, it does. 208 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: And I just think there's way you know, Chris Ballard 209 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: GM and Indy he is he's the personal I mean, 210 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: they've got a pretty clear delineation of how it's done there. 211 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean, right now, Chris is not gonna do anything 212 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: that Frank doesn't want him to do. I gotta feel 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: Franks could walk in and go, look, we can win 214 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: this thing with him now. Whether whether that I'm just 215 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: that's I would think they're believe. Nick Soriani, of its 216 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: coordinator in Indianapolis, was either the receive was either the 217 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach or was on the staff of the Chargers. 218 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: When Frank was out with the Chargers, Frank was the 219 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, and he knows him. I could I could 220 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: see that that one I can visualize, and I could 221 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: see that happening. Brady to the Niners. No Brady the 222 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Colts never made sense to me, never, No Rivers. Rivers 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: doesn't really until you realize, you know what, He's gonna 224 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of pieces. The movement into that offense 225 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be I mean, the trendition into that offense 226 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot easier, I think, for him 227 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: than any anywhere else, first of all, and secondly, I 228 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: think it would not be seamless, but I think it 229 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: would be pretty darn close. The Brady story is so 230 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: fascinating because of forty three years old in August, because 231 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: of he's the greatest quarterback of all time. I mean, 232 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: there's just so many reasons. We talked to Greg co 233 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: cell last week about evaluating Brady at this stage of 234 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: his life, and I brought it up with Greg, and 235 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: I thought about it over the weekend. His reaction, and 236 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it was on Golik and Wingo. They said, 237 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: how many situations would you not take Tom Brady over, 238 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: you know, like here in Houston with DeShawn Seattle, with 239 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Russell Kansas City, obviously, but I think there are a 240 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: lot more than that, Like forty nine ers don't make 241 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: any sense taking Brady from the standpoint of yet Tom 242 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: could put him over the top. But you're gonna be. 243 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: You're gonna be in quarterback hell and the next year 244 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: or two because if Tom gets hurt or gets old, 245 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: well he's getting older, but if he gets old, if 246 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, then you're out. A young 247 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: quarterback that was growing and maturing, was playing his first year, 248 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: his first full year of football right in the NFL, 249 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: first full year, and he got him the Super Bowl, 250 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: and he missed one throw, and everybody's panicked. Well, there's 251 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: so many lacks that aren't gonna win right away anyway, 252 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: even with Brady at this age, and they can't protect them. 253 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: So they're looking at it like, look, we're we're rebuilding anyway, 254 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: So let's start with a quarterback who's young, who we 255 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: have a future with us opposed to Brady. It's got 256 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: to be a win now team. Okay, let me get 257 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to this final one. Okay, having to do with well, 258 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: a former quarterback, Tony Romo stays with CBS for seventeen Yeah, 259 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: million dollars. Okay, I don't remember what the numbers were 260 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: when Summer All and Madden went to Fox, right because 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: CBS they were with them forever. When CBS had the NFC, 262 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: then Fox got it, they go over to Fox. Those 263 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: were big numbers at the time. This is you know, 264 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: we all have those moments that we remember. I remember 265 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: when Jim Rice for the Boss in Red Sox made 266 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: over a million dollars, maybe it was three or something. 267 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Wade Boggs was making a million, and those numbers at 268 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: the time. Magic Johnson signed a twenty million dollar deal 269 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: with the Lakers, which I think at the time was 270 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: dubbed a lifetime contrary, it was five million for twenty 271 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: five years. Okay, So that that was so incredible at 272 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: the time. And so you remember those times in your 273 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: life as a sports fan, observer, aficionado where it reached 274 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: just another level, another landmark, And this is one of 275 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: those moments in announcing seventeen million for a color commentator. 276 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: And I heard some of the talk show topics over 277 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: the weekend, like would an announcer make you want to 278 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: watch a game. I think Romo had that going the 279 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: first year or two, but I don't know if that continues. 280 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: But they just want a high quality guy in there 281 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: doing as broadcast, and I think they feel like this 282 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: is really a difference maker for them. I think he 283 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: does make Nance even more energetic and excited and it's 284 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: a good team and Romo is an interesting listen. But 285 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, and I'm in the business. 286 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: There's no announcer on TV that I'm thinking, I got 287 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: to tune in to hear this guy maybe for the 288 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: first time. You want to hear what he's like. Uh, 289 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: they can certainly, and I'll position it like this. The 290 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: reason why they do this is the experience. He's creating 291 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: an experience for the listener, and that's there's a perception 292 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: that the audience will hang in there more and you 293 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: want to get as little criticism as possible. You want 294 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: to get people excited that maybe Romo does that. I 295 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: think with Madden and Summer all, whenever I watched that 296 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: particular game, I felt like, this is the biggest game 297 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: in the league today, right, It's right the biggest game, right. 298 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: You feel that way, And I felt that Nance and 299 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Romo I like to listen to him, but you know, Joe, 300 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: Joe Buck and Troy Aikman feels like a bigger game. 301 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I get. I get the sense with that. And when 302 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Alan Chris are calling, you know that is because it's Sunday. 303 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: But that's a credit to Buck and Aikman that you 304 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: say that, because they do have such man that the 305 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Mike Aikman is very good. Yes, and I'm just talking 306 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: about presentation here. I think collins Worth is very good 307 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: as well. I think Romo is good too, but I 308 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. I still don't even look at 309 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: Nance as a football guy, but he does a really 310 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: good job. All these guys are really good. I'm still 311 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: not there with Monday Night, but I think they are 312 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: not either. So we'll see where they go with that. Well, yeah, 313 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's a bidding war. That's what drove the 314 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: price up to seventeen millions. And then that's exactly the point. 315 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: There were suitors, suitors plural, there's not I mean it's 316 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: supplying demand. There's no there's no demand. There was leverage 317 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: here for Tony there absolutely was now curious to see 318 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: what happens with Pete Manning. Yep, we'll get to that 319 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: point at some point. Mark, you're the best. Thank you, 320 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Thanks Johnny. We'll go back to Monday Initia of Texas 321 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am 322 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: John Harris and I'm an unabashed fan of The Bachelor 323 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: slash Bach Threat series. As I mentioned with Mark now 324 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: DBCD is always a fan of the Bachelor. She is 325 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: my confidence, on my go to We're always talking about 326 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: the series and we have a few people upstairs that 327 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: also liked the series as well. So when you merge 328 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: football and The Bachelor at or Bachelor, you've got a 329 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: match made in heaven. And that was Indianapolis as dep 330 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: and I caught up with PF Mike Mike grinter Lee, 331 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: draft analyst for PF and of course DPA to explain 332 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: why I was brought along for this interview because he's 333 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: kind of not a fan of PF. Can I say that, Johnny, 334 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: you can know Listen before I want to, I want 335 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Mike to understand. I'm a former coach, like old school coach, 336 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm a film guy and the the analytics 337 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: part of it has been something that I've kind of 338 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: taken over the you know, over the years. But the 339 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: one thing that I know as a coach is, like you, 340 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: the stereotypical thing you hear about PFF is what, oh 341 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: the great is this? And the coaches will always say, well, 342 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: how do they know what play was called? How do 343 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: they know what scheme was called? And I know that 344 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: they have answers to that, and I know they look 345 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: at that and I know how much that goes into it, 346 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: but I know there's still a factor that they don't 347 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: know that part of it, and that um, you know 348 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: what the adjustment was supposed to be for that particular 349 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: weekend for us in particular the Texans. Those things change 350 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: from week to week to week what the responsibility is, 351 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: so you might see it forty from weeks and I 352 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: might have for different responsibilities and they've got to try 353 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: and quantify that, and it doesn't make what they do 354 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: wrong at all. I think it's a huge help. I 355 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: know I use it because I need to know, like 356 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: who we playing this year playing NFC North? Why didn't 357 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: watch MC north much last year? So I got trying 358 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: to figure out and that is always a good starting 359 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: point for me. So I don't hate pff. I understand, 360 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: and thank you, and I hope you'll understand where I'm 361 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: coming from. You say, my work, what I do with 362 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: the draft is a lot of just I use the 363 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: grades as a starting point in terms of like what 364 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: he did, he was the grades of war. What he 365 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: did production wise on the front field? Did he produce? 366 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: And then so a guy did he produce well on 367 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: the football field? Now does he have the requisite athleticism 368 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: traits that sort of thing exactly that you think it's 369 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: going to continue to happen? Or was it flukey production? 370 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: Was it something that hey, you know, maybe he you know, 371 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: forced a lot of fumbles that were lucky, or recovered 372 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of bubbles, did something that was you don't 373 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: think it is going to happen again, or it doesn't, 374 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: And so like that's kind of my jobs to interpret 375 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: that grade and then project forward. Sorry, that does well. 376 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: I definitely I'm definitely gonna get to all this. I'm 377 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna get to the twenty twenty draft prospects. Who he 378 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: thinks the Texans should be looking at, some guys to 379 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: be looking at in the NFL Draft. Johnny has those guys. 380 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: But first and foremost, Mike I know you, not just 381 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: from PFF, and Johnny also knows you from the Bachelor. 382 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: You were on a few seasons ago, Bachelotte. I'm sorry 383 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: with Beca. I just called the Bachelor because it's the 384 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise French and Mike. You made it really far 385 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: because we were watching you. You made it further than 386 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: I thought. You didn't talk about You didn't talk much, 387 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: so I was like, how is he still making it through? 388 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: They're just not editing in his talking. So I've got 389 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: to ask you about that whole experience, what that was like. 390 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Did Becca know that you were a PF lead draft 391 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: analyst and did this mean anything? She wasn't super into football, 392 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: and so I think that might have been a big 393 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: reason why I didn't end up working out. She might, so, yeah, 394 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was an interesting experience. It was oddly 395 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: stressful just to be like on camera, I mean, like 396 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: you feel like so it was almost like worse than 397 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I had been on camera before from my job at PF, 398 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: and like do that because then you when your cameras 399 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: around you kind of like put on that oamine camera 400 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: instead of just being able to act natural. And I 401 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: think that was the weirdest thing about it, So you 402 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: never forgot that the cameras were there. Yeah, it was 403 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: difficult to forget that that you were being watched. Was 404 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: there was there beef in the house, because it's always 405 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: beef with girls, but how was every guy it was? 406 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily beef. I don't think it was more 407 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: like that quiet like behind the scenes, like everyone's like 408 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: I hate that guy everyone likes, but like everyone dislikes 409 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: like the same, like three weirdos in the house that 410 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: you're just like, were the other guys impressed by the 411 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: fact that you worked for PF. Did you have football? 412 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: So there were there was a Clay Harbor who had 413 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: played in the NFL. Yes, that's right. I want to 414 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: get something about that Colton who had been in the 415 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: NFL and that played in the NFL. But yeah, so 416 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: they were. They were in my season and they we 417 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: talked about it. Clay was very skeptical of the grades. 418 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: I think I want to move similar in terms of 419 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: like how he felt. He's like, how do you know 420 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: my responsibility? I'm like, well, you know, like it just 421 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: grade you based on what like you did like it 422 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: if h and like no one's scheme like it's not football. 423 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: Kind of a most overrated, sort of overhyped thing is 424 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: that it's a super complex thing. But it's like guys, 425 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: players themselves have a very simplistic role on everything play 426 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: like it's they have to be able to play fast 427 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: and so their role is easy, and so you can 428 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: usually if you know football, you can deduce what's going 429 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: on for most place. So during your season, and I'm 430 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: glad you brought up Clay. You guys played an actual football. 431 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Yeah we did, got hurt and he gets injured. But 432 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: I remember you playing in that game. What was it like? 433 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: It was awesome? Actually, so I had never even played 434 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: football because I went to a tiny, tiny high school 435 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: the middle of Central Illinois and had played basketball, baseball, 436 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: but we didn't didn't even have football, and so I'd 437 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: never played. And I think it's a big reason why 438 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I loved it, because it was Packers fan growing up 439 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: and obviously not getting to play It's almost like made 440 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: you love it more because you never got to like 441 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: satisfy that need or whatever. But uh, it was awesome. 442 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Put it on the pads, actually tackling, getting tackled. It 443 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: was something I hadn't done extra sence. I played like 444 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: in middle school, but that was the last time I played, 445 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: So it was really fun. What position were you playing 446 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: out there? It was it was like we only had 447 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: six on six or maybe it was seven on seven, 448 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: and so it was kind of the rules were like 449 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: a little shaky in terms of how the game played out. 450 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I was this receiver. I caught touchdown, 451 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I had a pick. My grade was by PFF. What 452 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: would you grade yourself? Mid eighties maybe like eighties, very solid. 453 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought I remember watching because when 454 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: we found out that you were on the show, we're like, 455 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, it's pretty amn cool, you know something. 456 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: We PF is on the show, and I thought at 457 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: some point they would give you a little bit more 458 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: camera time to expand upon that. What you know, what 459 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you think you should have just taken your time with her. 460 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: You should have interrupted more guys at the rose ceremony things. 461 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: One of those rose ceremonies, Like I mean, we talk 462 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: about this all the time because we've heard they take forever. 463 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you watch peop alcohol put yourself 464 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: full alcohol. Like I've seen some of those ROAs ceremonies 465 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: where it's like it's light outside right now. And I 466 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: know they started this thing at night. Yeah, it was 467 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: so first day they told me to get ready to 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: get in the limo at four pm. I get in 469 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: the limo or I get actually leave the hotel at 470 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: like six pm. That was like already long waiting like 471 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: in the limo, waiting to actually get in to get 472 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: to the house for probably end up getting out. So 473 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: you're like you're in the limo with four of the 474 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: guys and you're you watched them go first. I was 475 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,239 Speaker 1: the last guy out of my left. I watched all 476 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: of them go first, and you're like, just the stress 477 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: is just building and I was like, oh god, uh. 478 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: And then by the time I actually got into the house, 479 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: probably like eight and then night happens. Whatever she gives 480 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: out like first fresh rows like four am, and then 481 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: and then the rose ceremony I think wrapped up eight am. 482 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: What takes so long? That's what I wanted to know. 483 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: What are the feeling like, I mean, it's just like 484 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: getting everything cameras prepped, and like every time there's like 485 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: a guy that goes and like talks to her. They 486 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: like set up new thing, like set up a new 487 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: shot and like it's not it's not just like you 488 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: walk up and you're like, hey, back Leoni steal. They 489 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: gotta move their cameras lighting right, Okay, it's like telling you, hey, 490 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: here's how you walk up, here's what to go. What 491 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: do you What would you have done differently going through 492 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: the experience. Oh, that's a good question. Um, probably a 493 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of things, uh, like more one on one time. 494 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, I would have just I think tried 495 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: to be myself more. It was just so tough to 496 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: and like tried to actually like get time because I 497 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: really just like kind of like it wasn't like super interested, 498 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: Like it's just a person you don't even know, and 499 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: it's like how do you can be that interested that 500 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: you want to get this time with her? And when 501 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: you don't even know her. I just thought like you'd 502 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: be given time and like people willing to like be 503 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: able to, but no, you had to like actually you 504 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: did you not watch any other seasons before that? I mean, 505 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mike, I know, I know. So did you 506 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: have guys who did you have guys in the house 507 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: that did the whole after two days? Like I think 508 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: a lover her? Yeah, like I actually said it like 509 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: they were trying to just get I mean, like you 510 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: could tell, you could tell when I gain some of 511 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: these guys who are just acting hard, being like, she's 512 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: one of the most amazing person people I've ever met. 513 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: So now we know, Johnny, because I was like, these 514 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: guys don't know, they don't know, these girls don't know. 515 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: How do they know? What's been twenty minutes. I'm in love. 516 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: There's a there's a big spoiler site that's out there, 517 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: and he's connect I'm connecting him in in a weird way. 518 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: What what did you guys on the show? Did you 519 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: guys like reach like how did you keep this thing 520 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: under wraps? Like what did your family? What could you 521 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: tell your family not to tell anyone about your family 522 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: and work? And it's obviously like you tell people like 523 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: you don't care, like you think that's a joke, and 524 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: it's it's somewhat like they tell you not to and 525 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: you sign a contract not to like disclose behind the 526 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: scenes for a lot of stuff. But and here we are, 527 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: what about Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise or the Bachelor franchise? 528 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: Would you go back and do anything? Have they probably 529 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: not at this point, it's like a free vacation. Though 530 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: now you've learned your lesson. Yeah, but it's a free 531 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: vacation with a side of it turned it right afterwards, Yeah, 532 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: and you get asked that year, but now it's like 533 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: too far, No, it's not. They bring back. They bring 534 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: back people that I'm like, and I've seen every season. 535 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: Was like, don't even I was like, I don't even 536 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: know who this is. But whatever, they're entertaining. But it's 537 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: like a free vacation with a side of crazy. I 538 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: don't know that I could deal with that. I don't 539 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: know that I could deal with that. It's very chill 540 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: though here when you're actually there, it wasn't fun to 541 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: be there. It was It wasn't like that super enjoyable 542 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: like it was in retro. It was great experience, like 543 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: it's just like having had that was like very you know, 544 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: like fun to look back on, but like while you're 545 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: there would exactly nothing to do in the house. It 546 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: was cold actually when I was there, it was like 547 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: fifty degrees in LA. You're like in the Gore Hills 548 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: north of LA so it was like a little cold. 549 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, work wise, can I ask you because 550 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: you don't have phones, and you don't have computers, you 551 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: don't have any TV right in the house. So were 552 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: you worried that you're falling behind or your what? What? 553 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: What were the months like when you guys were So 554 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: it was actually in free agency two years ago when 555 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: like when you were filming? Was it? Yes? It was 556 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: mid march? So did you were you strung? I was 557 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: this time a producers. I was like, hey, who who signed? 558 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Like tell me that? Like, let me know, all right, 559 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: let's let's dive into the real stuff here, Texas don't 560 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: have that. That was absolutely well, we could. We could. 561 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: We could keep going with that. We want there are 562 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: do you get mad talking about it about it's a 563 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: little too late for that question, I know, but I mean, 564 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, because we could, we could. There's so many questions. 565 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: I know if I texted my daughter right now, who's 566 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: in class, she would like run out of class and 567 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: like want to ask you questions. But I don't want 568 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: to do that. Jesse, our social media manager, had to leave, 569 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: and he said, can you just tell me how it 570 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: goes with Mike before like everybody's all in on the batcheling, 571 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: but I know we want to talk about a lot 572 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: of people want to know, you know, Texas don't have 573 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: a first round pick because they made trade for Lemry Tunsil, 574 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: So they're sitting, you know, in the middle of fifties, 575 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: got some needs corners, one of them, pass rushers, one 576 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: of them. As you sort of look at what their 577 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: draft needs are and fits for them, what do you 578 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: think my I think they're in luck with cornerback class 579 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: because there's one dude at the top, jeffer Acut Ohio State. 580 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: He's going high and he's everyone's pretty sold on. I'm 581 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: on pretty sold and I think he's going to be 582 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: a very good pro. After that, a lot of question marks. 583 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: A lot of guys who are schemes specific or you know, 584 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: have a certain skill set, and they're all kind of 585 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: in that probably on my board even twenty five to 586 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: sixty range, and probably about I think it's like eight 587 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: guys on that on that in that range on my board, 588 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: which that is one of that's probably gonna be on 589 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: the board once the Texans are coming off. And I 590 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: think you saw it similar to last year's class, but 591 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: then you have jeffre Acuter kind involved Lester's class. The 592 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: thirty one was the first cornerback and then you saw 593 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: a ton go in the second round, so I think 594 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: they will be in luck. Let me just give me 595 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: a thumbnail and what you think how the fit would 596 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: be for the Texans. Jeffrey Couter's teammate Damon Arnett. Damon Arnette. 597 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a really good fit in terms of 598 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: played a ton of man coverage. Ray He's played a 599 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of uh you know, NFL sort of coverage as 600 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: they cover one cover three team, a big single high 601 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: scheme there Ohio State, great ball skills. I mean, he 602 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: attacks the catch point as well as any cornerback this class. 603 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: And he's kind of NFL. He's old, he's like he's 604 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: already twenty three, gonna be twenty four as a rookie, 605 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: which is for a draft prospect, it's super old, but 606 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: like he's old but also productive. And the fact that 607 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: he played so well. It's year with a cast on 608 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: one hand the whole year, which is like at the end, 609 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: especially at the college level where guys are so grabby 610 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: and I can get so much play out of that. 611 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: To be as productive as he was and like be 612 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: as stingy as he was with that cast, Like you'd 613 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: like to see stuff like that. Jeff Gladeny t TCU. 614 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: I doubt he makes it to that far. I'm with you, 615 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: he's think you're gonna run for you want to keep 616 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: those Texas kids doing. He's gonna go. I love they 617 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: watched him last Sumer and I love fell in love 618 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: with him like I love this guy. And guys who 619 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: go Guys who go four three and the forty at 620 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: cornerback and then we're also like good at cornerback with 621 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: some length and ball skill exactly all of a sudden, 622 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: they're they're going hot. Let's talk about pass rushers. Johnny 623 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: mentioned pass rushers. Ye hit you with some pass rushers. 624 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: These guys are interesting because I say pass rusher, but 625 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: they sort of do some different things. Hut you with 626 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: two Zach Bonna, Wisconsin, Josh Uch Michigan. I love both 627 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: those guys. I think both have And at linebacker, the 628 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: way that's going in the NFL to day, you either 629 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: have to be able to blitz off ball linebacker. You 630 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: have to be either blitz and be able to come 631 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: downhill and on passing downs effect in that regard, or 632 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: you have to be a freak in terms of what 633 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: you can do speed, sideline sideline, able to cover and 634 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: go backwards, so that sort of thing. So those are 635 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: two are definitely guys who have that ability to rush 636 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: the pastor. I mean they beat college tackles at the 637 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: highest level of you know, guys outside of Chase Young, 638 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: and you worry about guys at the two hundred and 639 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: forty range, which Bond checked in at like two forty 640 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. I remember in Nucci was like 641 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: two forty one. Not a lot of not a lot 642 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: of sort of track record for guys that's small. You know, 643 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: the vic Piazas of the world. He's we've seen how 644 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: well that worked out for the Falcons. Not great over 645 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: the course of his rookie contract. So it's tough to 646 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: rush the pastor there. But if you're talking about kind 647 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: of hybrid guys where it's like third down there, rush 648 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the pastor do some things with them on stunts. If 649 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: you have a plan for guys like that, I'm a 650 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: big fan of drafting because they are very talented and 651 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,959 Speaker 1: the way they rush the pastor just what they can 652 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: do athletically. I don't know, Johnny's that something that Texans 653 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: might be interested in, well, yes, yes, and no. The 654 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: problem is with those two guys is when you talk 655 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: about their pass rushing traits very similar to what we 656 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: have already in Jacob Martin. Now, Jacob, I don't think 657 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: goes off the ball and could do those things, but 658 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: we have guys off the ball that can do those things. 659 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: So we have in probably a couple of guys what 660 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: those guys can provide. So yeah, in the NFL, you're 661 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: always looking for, especially in forty six forty six man roster, 662 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: which might change the forty eight whatever, but you always 663 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: want speed off the edge. But we have that with 664 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin, you know, so we kind of had that, 665 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: but they're intriguing because they can't play off the ball 666 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: and play off the ball well, a guy that plays 667 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: on the edge the majority of the time from Houston, 668 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: from Northshore High School with the LSU did have the 669 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: ASL and eighteen Caleman chased on from LSU thoughts we 670 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: are going to be lower on him here pf compared 671 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: to probably a lot of other people in the athleticism, 672 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the way he moves is everything. He wants to have 673 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: the ed position like. He is a freak athlete for sure. 674 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: But why was he not beating not freak athletes at 675 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: the tach position. College is kind of our concern with it, 676 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: Like he was so athletic but just not consistently productive. 677 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: And this just beyond the sack total, just game the game. 678 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: There wasn't a single game on tape we can point 679 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: to be like he dominated that, like that's the one 680 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: game where it's like, oh man, that's what I'm going 681 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: to bank on him being at the next level. And yes, 682 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: he'll beat tackles like Andrew Thomas. You know, he'll beat 683 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, Jack's Carmen, who was a Clemson tackle. He's 684 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: probably gonna be a top prospect next year. He has 685 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: reps against them where he whoops their butt and like 686 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: it looks everything looks perfect, but it's just like, why 687 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: haven't we seen more of That's my question mark with him. 688 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: So but he's gonna go. He's gonna go top twenty. 689 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: So when you're evaluating pass rushers, are you not just say, 690 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: looking at the numbers and the sack totals. You're looking 691 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: at also the competition level at which if someone were 692 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: acts up like fifteen sacks, but it's in a division 693 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: that's not as strong as say the SEC or the ACC. 694 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: First thing I do that grades you, that grades you 695 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: up differently. The exact first thing I do when looking 696 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: trying to watch prospect is look who they played, and 697 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: then find try to find the best guy that he 698 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: could have possibly mashed up with on that schedule, and 699 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: then watch that game first. Because if because and that's 700 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: kind of like the Senior Bowl and the big value 701 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: in that. People are like, oh, why are you rising 702 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: this guy from one week of practice. It's like, well, 703 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: he's playing someone that's going to also be in the NFL. 704 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: If you're kicking you guys, but who's also going to 705 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: be in the NFL, that's a good thing, you know. 706 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: And if you don't look like you belong there that 707 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: week against guys who are also going to be in 708 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the NFL, that's a bad thing. So I do think 709 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of weight to doing it against 710 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: the best competition. And if you don't do it, if 711 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: you don't face guys who are you know, the best competition, 712 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: you're playing them out in West playing you just don't 713 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: feel as comfortable about that protection. What about running backs, 714 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: because the Texans have two guys that are gonna be 715 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: free agents, after this year. But I was asking Billabarond 716 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: about this about different styles of running backs. Are there 717 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: any running backs that really stand out too? Especially where 718 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: the Texans are picking well, I think with Duke Johnston 719 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: on the roster, I think you'd look for, you know, 720 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: the Carlos Hyde sort of pairing with him, not a 721 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: guy so like not a Clyde Edwards Hilaire, probably not 722 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: at DeAndre Swift, the guys with like legit receiving ability 723 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: who are going to get pushed up draftwards because of that, 724 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: You're probably looking for more like a Jonathan Taylor, a 725 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: guy who's not necessarily going to be using the pass game, 726 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: but if you're handed off to him between the tackles, 727 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: you're going to get good production. So I think probably 728 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: not the value in round two of guys like j K. Dobbins, 729 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and that range aren't going to be great, 730 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: but maybe later on in the draft. So, like I said, 731 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: the cornerback class is probably where you want to go 732 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: in round two with needs on that roster, But later 733 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: on the draft you have guys like Lea Michael p 734 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: Ryan out of Florida, AJ Dillon out of Boston College 735 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: who are more that give it to him between the 736 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: tackles and you'll feel comfortable about what their production is 737 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: going to be there. Kind of that pairing with Duke Johnson, 738 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: that was blast. Catch it up. Lead draft analysts from 739 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: PF Mike Renner, who not surprisingly uses PFF sort of 740 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: the same way that I do. It's at the end, 741 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: all be all, but it is a useful tool to 742 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: help you analyze football, and that's what it does for me. 743 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: It's like I said, you get the NFC North this year. 744 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: I didn't really watch him. I will, but to have 745 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: their grades is sort of a starting point. That's always 746 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: a great thing to have, There's no question about it. 747 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: And Mike was great, and he was great on The Bachelorette. 748 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: And I'm playing you this because The Bachelor is on tonight. Yeah, 749 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: there you go. So I saved this interview from Indie 750 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: for that sole purpose, and beyond the fact that Mike 751 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: is exceptional, we were able to talk about prospects that 752 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: could make a lot of sense for your Houston Texans. 753 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, the Texans last win of the 754 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: year came against the Buffalo Bills. We'll talk about that 755 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: with the Voice of the Bills John Murphy. Next right 756 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: here in Texans Axis, We've got one final segments Monday 757 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: edition of Texas All Axis from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. 758 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris and one of the 759 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: guys that we love to run into its owners meetings, 760 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: the Combine, the Draft where we go. John Murphy, the 761 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: play by play voice of the Buffalo Bills, is a 762 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: salt of the earth guy, one of the best year 763 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: going to find and he was gracious enough to spend 764 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: a few minutes with us, which was had to be 765 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: tough considering how things went in January when we played 766 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: them in the wild card round. In fact, we were 767 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: a little nervous as to how John would react. We 768 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: caught up with him in Indianapolis. It's good to see it, John, Alright, Yes, 769 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: and time I saw you was not so great. I 770 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: know it wasn't so great, and I'm really uh, I 771 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: can't say I'm sorry, but I you know, you're a friend, 772 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: and it had to be tough. And look, we went 773 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: through the same thing or a similar thing a week later, 774 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: so you know we know how it feels. How about that, Yeah, 775 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: that's kind of rings, kind of hollow, because we should 776 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: have seen that coming as the Bill's group and as 777 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: Bills fans should have seen that kind of because they 778 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: had trouble scoring points all season long, and it was 779 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: no different against Houston. They just could not move the 780 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: ball and get in the end zone. Uh, and it 781 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: caught up with them finally, you know. And they won 782 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: ten games somehow by playing great defense and running the 783 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: ball pretty well, but they got to the playoff game 784 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: and it wasn't enough against really some dynamic performers, offensive performers. 785 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: John what was the overall narrative when when you guys 786 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: got back in the days after that that lost us? 787 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: What was kind of the narrative in Buffalo? What were 788 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: the thoughts of the fans at that particular moment. Did 789 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: they feel like, hey man, we're really close or do 790 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: they feel like, well, that was one it just got away? 791 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: What are we doing? Kind what was the thought of both? 792 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: I mean, most fans felt like that was really close. 793 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: And I think most fans feel like they're building something 794 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: here and you can see it throughout the course of 795 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: a season, not necessarily that Saturday afternoon, but the feeling 796 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: was we're building something here, And like I said, I 797 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 1: think most fans. Good fans knew that they were really 798 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: challenged offensively the Bills and couldn't get much done offensively, 799 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: and that's where the focus should lie. And they also think, 800 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: like you know, they're really close, but there's some work 801 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: to do too. We had Brandon being on here yesterday 802 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: general Manager, and it's hitting me over the last couple 803 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: of weeks here, and we did a segment on our show. 804 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: Who's got the biggest to do list in the AFC East? 805 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Is that the Dolphins who had a rough year? Is 806 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: that the Jets who struggled last year. Maybe it's a 807 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: Patriots they lose their quarterback. We settled on the Bills 808 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: to get from to me in my way, thinking to 809 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: get from ten wins to twelve or thirteen wherever you 810 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: need to be to win a division and be a 811 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender. That's a lot of work to do. 812 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: They have a lot of pieces to add. I think 813 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: they have many, maybe not many, but they have important 814 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: pieces to add. Let me put it that way, John 815 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: Murphy with US Voice of the Bills. Now you mentioned 816 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots and obviously that's the team and they have 817 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: what thirteenth playoff wins since Bill o'bride became the Texans 818 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: head coach. In the last six years, It's incredible what 819 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: they've been able to do. You had two close games 820 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: with them this year, and they're the team you've got 821 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: it for every year. But at this point they have 822 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: to be saying, oh, Buffalo's right there, right on our heels, 823 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: and they do have a lot of issues going into 824 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Patriots, Yeah, I believe they do, and they 825 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: got to settle the quarterback issue first and foremost. And 826 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean the records are amazing. Brady's like twenty eight 827 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: and three against the Bills in his career. You'd like 828 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: to see an end to that era. Yeah, I'd like 829 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: to see an end to that era. Sometimes. I think 830 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: most Bills fans and close observer of the Bills look 831 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: at it like, look, that's gonna end sometime. Maybe it's 832 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: this year, maybe not. But let's not worry about them. 833 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: Let's just get our team better and challenge them. Right. 834 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: But is that kind of the talk of the off 835 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: season in Buffalo? Is Brady going? Because if Brady goes, 836 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: you're the favorites to with the AFC, at least on paper. Yeah, maybe, 837 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: And sure people are keeping an eye on that. I 838 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: don't know how that's going to turn out. I don't 839 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. You get different opinions, you know. 840 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: You have some people and they say, oh, Brady's definitely 841 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: going because he sold his house or what ever, and 842 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: then other people say, no, I think they'll be back. 843 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: I heard a guy in your show We're right next 844 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: door to here at the Combine say that, right, was 845 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: it you? Somebody was saying that the uh, you know 846 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: where Britay's gonna play quarterback next year in the New 847 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: England Patriots, And I thought, oh, okay, in that column, well, 848 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: a lot of people believe he's back. Some people say no, 849 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: nobody knows for sure. John, speaking of quarterbacks, what was 850 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: the the overall consensus thought on Josh Allen and what 851 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: he did? Because for a quarter and a half to 852 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: two quarters against us, we're kind of talking about it 853 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: during breaks the game, like, oh, boy, were in trouble 854 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: because number seventeen can throw the football and do things 855 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: to us. And then the second half and I actually 856 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: read it one of the writers in Buffalo after the game. 857 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: He referred to much wyoming Josh showed back up in 858 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: the second half, and I thought that was sort of apropos. 859 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: What was sort of the thought of what Josh has 860 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: done after two years. Yeah, I mean I think most 861 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: people are encourage and a couple of things about Josh. 862 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: He's so competitive and that's what people like. I think 863 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: most of all. He's very competitive, hyper competitive and wants 864 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 1: to practice hard and win games, and sometimes that gets 865 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: the best of them. I think that's what I mean. 866 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 1: Josh he was referring to, you know, and in the 867 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: playoff game against the Texans, that crazy sideline lateral. I mean, 868 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: that was the kind of play he made it wyoming 869 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: and sometimes he made him but you gotta rain him 870 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: in a little bit, and they did a good job 871 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: raining him in. But it's funny we come down here. 872 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: I mentioned my partner, Steve Tasker, and among the many 873 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: people we've talked to this year, probably at least two 874 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: or three have mentioned how Josh is and you know, 875 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: how did You're in your own bubble and up at 876 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: Arthur Park, Oh, Josh is great. They're doing this, they're 877 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 1: doing that, and you come here and people raise questions 878 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: about Josh and where his career is going. And that's 879 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: good to hear. I think he does have a lot 880 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: of work to do. You know, he's got to be 881 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: more polished. He's got to make better decisions, that's number one. 882 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: He's got a big strong arm, he's very physical. He 883 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: can do a lot of things. But he's got to 884 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: polish it up a little bit, and there's time to 885 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: do that. I think they're encouraged by what they've seen. 886 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: John Murphy, voice of the Buffalo Bills with us, all Right, stadium, 887 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: what can you tell us about that? What's wrong with 888 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: the stateium? Love? I've told Salace a million times. I 889 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: loved y'all. I love fans. I know it's you know, 890 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the amenities maybe if the newer stadiums, 891 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: but there's something about going into that place. There's a 892 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: lot of history there and we've all watched the games 893 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: over the years. Yeah. I mean, our owners, the Pagoulas, 894 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: have a study out and I think it's finished now 895 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: to determine whether fans want a brand new stadium downtown 896 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: or if they want to refurbish the one in Orchard Park. 897 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: They have not said yet, you know which way that 898 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: the people are going. I would not mind, In fact, 899 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: I would enjoy if they just kind of redo the 900 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: stadium in Orchard Park, maybe make it a little smaller, 901 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: add more private suites. Problem in Buffalo again, to be honest, 902 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: is there's not a ton of local franchises businesses that 903 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: are based there. So there's a lot of branch offices, 904 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: but not a lot of companies are based there, so 905 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: you'd have trouble selling a lot of sweets. They did 906 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: it in nineteen ninety eight. Can they do it again 907 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: more expensive seats? I don't know. Can they sell seat 908 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: licenses in Orchard Park? I don't know if they can. 909 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: It's not a wealthy market. But I mean the franchise 910 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 1: is solidly in place, and I think the stadium, like 911 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 1: you guys, I think it's a great place to watch 912 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: a game. It's sort of old school now right. It's 913 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: sort of a throwback like and people go there to 914 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: watch the games. And this is not a knock on 915 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: anybody else, but they don't care if the seat's broken. 916 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: They'll stand anyway, and they go there to watch the game. 917 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: It's not about the intermissions or the halftime entertainment or 918 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: that what goes on in timeouts. It's about the football game. John, 919 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: I only have our playoff game to go off of. 920 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: And you guys did come at twenty eighteen, and I 921 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: didn't notice it as much. And I know the playoff 922 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: game was was big for the fans of Buffalo, but 923 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: there were a ton of Bill's Mafia in NRG Stadium 924 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: on that playoff game. Our road games like that for Buffalo, 925 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: no matter what that Bill's Mafia is traveling at maybe 926 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: not at that rate, but they travel significantly no matter 927 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: what I mean. I know, you get New England in games, 928 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, closer that way, but our games like that 929 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: on the road or was that just special because it 930 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: was the second playoff game since ninety nine. You know, 931 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: I think you're onto something there. And it really became 932 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: a thing this year. They really started to travel well. 933 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: And it started with in October sixth game in Nashville. 934 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: They played the Tennessee Titans, and that place was more 935 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: than half full with Buffalo fans. Now, you guys have 936 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: been in Nashville. It's a fun place. People were into it, 937 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: but people really got into it and there was a 938 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: ton of Bills fans there. It extends to Miami. There's 939 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: always a good Buffalo crowd in South Florida. But a 940 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: couple of times, including at Houston, maybe four times. In 941 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: eight road games this year, there were a lot of 942 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: Bills fans, and I think that's gonna be I mean, 943 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: this year the Bills go to Las Vegas, they go 944 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, so I'm sure those will be full 945 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: of Buffalo fans as well. All Right, that's gonna do it. 946 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: A big thanks to Mark, to John Murphy, to Mike Renner, 947 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: to Debiciter of course, to all of you for listening. 948 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow, buddy, and it's always Go Texans.