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Who's 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Who's getting a nice little collection of prizes? John, We'll 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: give you a couple of tidbits. Prices. Yeah, prizes are 13 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: back some years we haven't had prizes. I know. Nobody 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: went three for three, which hasn't happened in a long time. 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: We had a lot of three for three people who 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe this year in twenty twenty two, they didn't lean 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: so much towards the older picks and they went for 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: the points, which again this is a point system. Aaron 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,319 Speaker 1: Carter of Horse was the big pick of twenty twenty two, 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: who died at the age of thirty four of a 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: drug overdose. We did have a number of people that 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: went two for three, and that includes our winner who 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: will join us in one hour because she had Aaron 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Carter along with another notable name. The most correct picks 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two were people who picked the Queen. 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: One hundred and two people picked me to Elizabeth and 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: she did pass away at the age of ninety six. 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: A reminder that there is a link on our web 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,559 Speaker 1: page for you to enter goog Pull twenty twenty three. 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Some people have already jumped on that. It's been there 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: since January first. That's the best way to enter. If 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: you send him to the Johnny Ken email, I may 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: or may not forward them to Ray. I may or 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: may not depending on my mood. 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Brian 45 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: Coburger is the Pennsylvania man who was arrested by the 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: police for killing the four college students in Idaho back 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: on November thirteenth. He was a student at the University 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: of Washington in Pullman, which is not very far from Moscow, 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: studying criminology, looking for a PhD in criminology. The latest 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm looking at here is that remember the traffic stop story. 51 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: He drove with his father cross country from the state 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: of Washington to Pennsylvania in December in that white Hunday 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: the Elantra and they got pulled over twice. So I 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: guess Indiana police have released the video where the father 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: needs cunning dental John Holy mac is right. Oh, there's 56 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: a photo where they're both staring at the cop. Coburger's 57 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: leaning over. He's got that look on his face like, 58 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: what the hell do you want? I could kill you? Oh? Yeah, 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: he really does. He was probably that if you want 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: to see oh, I want to see that. Well, he 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: was probably in a complete panic. Right, Oh, of course, 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: could this be right? They caught me, he knows. Dad 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on. No, And in fact Dad 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: started talking about some Washington State student who barricaded himself 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: in the home and threatened to kill his roommates, which 66 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: is kind of weird, right, that just came up for 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: somehow because apparently one of the troopers are like, you guys, 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: that's a long drive. You don't like to fly, you're 69 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: scared of flying or something like that. Man, Dad is 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: that's terrible teeth. Oh god, that guy's teeth. That is 71 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: all sorts of marks on the front, like it looks 72 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: like it's it's rotted and become brown. Look at Coburger's 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: face the sun. Look at Brian Coburger. Yeah, Coburger looks 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: completely panicked, eyes bugging out. It's probably what he looked 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: like when he was killing those uh kids. Oh yeah, yeah, 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: but you know what, see that teeth like that. That's 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: a sign of like some kind of mental illness. Nobody 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: walks around like that. All right. So a court appearance 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: today in Pennsylvania for extradition, which was waived. So this 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: guy's coming back to Idaho shortly. Is Brian Enton there? 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: One minute? We're one minute away, Okay, Brian Enton from 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: News Nation, who we talked to several times since the murders. 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: He's been posted up in Idaho, given us good information 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: from inside, and I think my conclusion it did turn 85 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: out to be a white hun day a launchre that 86 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: this guy drove that what was going on was they're 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: not telling us. They were working on this for weeks, 88 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: tracking through DNA ancestry databases and then the car and 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: everything else, and the fact that he lived just over 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: the border there in Washington State, that this took some 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: work John, meaning they were not incompetent goofs. Well, maybe 92 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: it's FBI work. No, maybe it is, I don't know. 93 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: So many people are on this case. Well, they were 94 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: giving out so much conflicting information. One of the neat 95 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: bits of information I read in one of the stories 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: last week was they also have tracked pings off his 97 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: cell phone. They think he was stalking a couple of 98 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the victims because their pings seemed to be frequently in 99 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: the same place as his ping, right, and because the 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: big question is how did he know them? Why did 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: he pick them out to kill? But don't think it's this. 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Kayleegu On Calvis is the one he was after and 103 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: she's the one that suffered the worst wounds. Well, the 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: dad hinted at that that he thought there may have 105 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: been a connection with his daughter, Kayley. You could have 106 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: believe he maybe ran into them at some point, since 107 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: he was right over the border, just a few miles away. 108 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: He came to the university hung out at a party 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: or a bar. Yeah, I would think there was a 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of cross partying going on and cross relationships between 111 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: the two universities, right, it would have to be. So 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: we believe that this is a twenty eight year old 113 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: right in cell with real emotional issues. So he's kind 114 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of half the profile and half not the profile. Maybe, yeah, 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,799 Speaker 1: well he struck out. Always look at the guys who 116 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: strike out with girls, you know, for decades and progressively 117 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: get angrier and angrier about it, right, because usually you know, 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: they're a little dinged in the head. They might be 119 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: scholastically really smart, but their intelligence only goes that wide. 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: You know, you can apply it to certain scholastic disciplines, 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: but they don't have like an overall emotional intelligence to 122 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 1: read people and to learn how to connect with people. 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that he was studying criminology, you know, obviously, 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I think he was trying to put together a research 125 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: project to interview people about the crimes, why they commit crimes, 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that. It looks like he got so close 127 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: an insight on this. He probably wanted to see what 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: he could do himself. It may have been that he 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: always had these impulses to kill and then wanted to research, 130 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: like how do they investigate these crimes? How can I 131 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: get away with it? How do the police get tripped up? 132 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: But I think this is always inside of him, and 133 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: in fact, would shocked me if they revived some cold 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: cases and it turns out he'd done other bad things. 135 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: I was looking at a couple of fascinating articles on 136 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: how they used the DNA what they call the genealogy databases. 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's not the common ones like twenty three 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: and me. They don't allow it. They're not gonna allow 139 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: the police access. Really, it was a couple of the 140 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: lesser known ones, which had roughly two to three million 141 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: people in the database. But they got lucky because they 142 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: found some sort of relative of his second third cousin, 143 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and that's how they matched that DNA to the DNA 144 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: found at the crime scene or at least enough of 145 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: it that they thought they were onto the right guy. 146 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: You add that to the Hyundai that he drove, and 147 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the fact that he'd live far away. I mean, all 148 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: these things came. Yeah. I gotta think that when they 149 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: were looking at the Elantras, they started investigating first people 150 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: with white to launtras in the closest proximity to Moscow 151 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: to Moscow, and you know, and it took a while 152 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: because they said there were thousands of them registered. I 153 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: don't know what states they were talking about. That's a 154 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: lot to go through. This took a lot of really 155 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: hard detective work. And I heard I read another expert 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: on genealogy and DNA, and she said that I don't 157 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: care how good at criminally you think you are, even 158 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: if you wear like a suit like that killer and 159 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: what it was Dexter. You ever here a Dexter showtime. Yeah, 160 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: that he would wear like a suit, like a hazmat suit. 161 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: She goes, you're just bound to leave something at the 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: crime scene a matter how good you because supposedly he 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: wore gloves to do this. Yeah, but if you're splattering 164 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: blood all over the place, I mean, if you're a 165 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: sharpshooter right, taking him out from a distance, you got 166 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: a better chance of running off. But if you're going 167 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: to go into the room and get into a wrestling 168 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: match with with a big knife, and you're fighting them 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: and they're fighting you, and you're getting cut and they're 170 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: getting cut and all this blood is spurting all over 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: the place, how do you contain all that evidence once 172 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: you leave the house. And it's kind of a screw 173 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: up to park your car in the neighborhood too. That 174 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: was a major error here. What's gonna happen next? They're 175 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna bring him to Idaho. We're gonna have one of 176 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: those probable cause hearings. That's when a lot of the 177 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: evidence will be revealed. Because once again the development this afternoon, 178 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: he waived extradition. Hopefully when we come back, we're going 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: to talk to Brian Enton from News Nation, who has 180 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: been of course on the scene in Idaho, following this 181 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: case very closely from the beginning and reporting on it. 182 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: The first thing that happens when we come back, John 183 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: is a keyword for a chance to win a thousand 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: dollars Johnny ken Cafe, I am six forty live everywhere 185 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. Reminder, we're on from one to 186 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: four now every afternoon one to four, and at other 187 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: times you can go to the iHeartRadio app and listen 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: to the podcast you've typed in John and Cannon demand 189 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: and you can hear the whole show there at any point. 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: All right, do we have our man, Brian Enton from 191 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: News Nation is coming on to talk about the Idaho 192 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: murders and of course the suspect, Brian Coburger. So, yeah, 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm here, Thank you guys for giving me. So he's 194 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: in Idaho now. So I am in Pennsylvania where I'm 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: actually right outside the courthouse right now where this hearing 196 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: just wrapped up a while ago. Yeah, he's still in 197 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania right now. He's going to be extradited soon. Brian 198 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: Coburger back to Idaho. Oh all right, So what happened 199 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: in Quartier. I guess it was a short hearing because 200 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: he waved extradition, right, Yeah, it was short. He waved 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the extradition. So he should be headed back to Idaho 202 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: very soon. We thought he might actually be going right 203 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: from the courthouse, but we followed. We thought maybe they'd 204 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: have a plane waiting that didn't happen. He's out back 205 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: in the jail here, but we're told it's going to 206 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: happen very soon, within the next couple of days. Pretty 207 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: standard hearing, just making sure that he actually wanted to 208 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: wave the extradition hearing, which he said he did. But 209 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: it was very strange seeing him in person. You know, 210 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: he was in a red jumpsuit. He had a suicide 211 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: vest on, so he looked. Some people about, oh, this 212 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: guy'sual muscular, but no, he just had a real big 213 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: suicide vest on underneath his shirt. Walked in real slow, 214 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: made eye contact briefly with his parents who were there, 215 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: and his sister, and then they just started bawling, and 216 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: then he sat down. The hearing happened, and then he 217 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: was out. What did the parents seem like? What were 218 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: it was their demeanor as they were waiting, as they 219 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: were entering and exiting. Were they crying the whole time 220 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: or was there any other emotion any anything they said? 221 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: So the dad didn't show a ton of emotion. The 222 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: mom and the sisters were pretty much bawling at one point, 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: and a deputy had to come over and bring them tissues, 224 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: and then they were escorted out right when the hearing 225 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: was over, they released a statement through the public defender, 226 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: basically saying they're heartbroken for the families, but saying that 227 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: their son, you know, is innocent until proven guilty, and 228 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: that they are standing by him right now. Yeah, we 229 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: understand that they've hired some sort of defense investigators who 230 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: are allowed to go to Idaho and check out the house. 231 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Did you learn anything about that. No, I haven't heard 232 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: anything about that. He's got the public defender here in Pennsylvania, 233 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: and then we just learned today that he also has 234 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: a public defender in Idaho that will be taking on 235 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the case once he arrives. What's really interesting about this, 236 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this until I started doing the story. 237 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: And with the law in Idaho, they're not allowed to 238 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: release the probable cause out to David, which has all 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: the information about what led up to the arrest. They're 240 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: not allowed to make it public, not even to Coburger 241 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: or his lawyers, until he physically is on the ground 242 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: in Idaho. So once that happens, we're going to get 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: just a treasure trove of information. So, Brian, I guess 244 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: what we learned was behind the scenes, they were doing 245 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot of investigative work, detective work here with the 246 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: DNA in the car. Yeah for sure. I mean I've 247 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: been on news Nation every day for a month basically 248 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: living in Idaho, and we didn't know what was happening 249 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. No one did. Police were so tight lipped. 250 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: We thought at some point they knew nothing that other 251 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: points we thought they had leaves. It turns out for 252 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: quite a while they were onto this guy Um and 253 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: you know that he was tracked all the way back 254 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: here to Pennsylvania, UM and Guida. Like I said, in 255 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Idaho for for almost a month, took a little time 256 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: off around Christmas, New Year's and then boom, we get 257 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: a tip on a news Nation that that it's going 258 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: down in Pennsylvania race out here. I don't think anyone 259 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: had any idea except forties that this guy was going 260 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: to be all the way on the other side of 261 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: the country. Have you been able to learn anything about 262 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: the connection between this guy and the victims. Well, obviously 263 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: there's a geographical connection because he was going to school 264 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: at Washington State University, which is just ten miles from 265 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: where the murders happened. It's just a town right next 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: to Moscow, Idaho, where the murders happened. So he was close, 267 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, so creepy. He was getting his his PhD 268 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: in criminology. But in terms of a specific connection, you know, 269 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I just talked last night to Kaylee guns As his dad, 270 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: she's one of the victims, and he said, you know, 271 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: they're trying to find connection. It doesn't sound like they've 272 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: come up with anything specific at this point, but but 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to find something. Nothing that we know of 274 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: at this point, but reports though that he may have 275 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: been stalking them for some period of time before he 276 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: killed them. It's possible. And you know, when I was 277 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: in Idaho, we you know, we interviewed people who said 278 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: they thought that Kayley had a stalker and that Kaylee 279 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: had talked about it. I mean, it's possible he was 280 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: following them around before, you know, before the killings. Of course, 281 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: he's just a suspect at this point, but you know 282 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: that again, that's why we're just so anxious to get 283 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: our hands and this probable cause after David even he 284 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: is It was interesting the prosecutor here said he thinks 285 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that Coburger waved the extradition hearing 286 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: and wants to get back to Idaho. Is because him 287 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: and his defense lawyers aren't even able to see this 288 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: document yet. So once that comes out, hopefully in a 289 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: couple of days, I think we're going to have the 290 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: answers to a lot of those questions. A. Right, No, 291 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: you gotta do another TV report. Thank you for coming on, Brian. Yeah, 292 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I gotta run get back on News Nation. Thank you 293 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: guys for having me again. All right, Brian Enton from 294 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: News Nation. Right there. From day one, he was positioned 295 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: in Idaho. Right now, he's in Pennsylvania because they just 296 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: completed a couple of hours ago the extradition hearing for 297 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Brian Coburger, which was a formality because he's waving extradition. 298 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: He will be transported back to Idaho, and that'll be 299 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: a big day. I don't know whether or not that's 300 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: going to happen this week because it's already Tuesday, but 301 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: we're going to eventually see in one of those probable 302 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: cause hearings, the case that the prosecution has assembled against him, 303 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the evidence whatever they have for the reasons that they 304 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: picked him up for these murders. If he did not 305 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: hear this weird a lot of weird pieces to this, 306 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: But he took a cross country trip with his father 307 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: from Washington where he attended the University of Washington, the 308 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: criminology student. His father, I guess, flew out there and 309 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: then they drove back together for the holidays to Pennsylvania 310 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: and they actually got stopped in Indiana by the police 311 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: twice speeding or tailgating and stuff like that. So kind 312 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: of a weird, little extra tidbit about this man. And 313 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: was that what was that a setup? Though? I wonder 314 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: did the FBI wanted to slow them down somehow, get 315 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: a good look at them and see Indiana police who're 316 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: saying officially they had no idea that this man was 317 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: being investigated. That's what they're saying officially, That's what they're saying. Yeah, yeah, 318 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: I believe nobody. Do you know what? Another weird story 319 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: that came out is that he was seen when the 320 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: police in Pennsylvania were trailing him. He was seen in 321 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: supermarkets and he always wore gloves whenever he went into 322 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the markets. Never wants to leave a trace of himself 323 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: or is he just a germ phobic Some of the 324 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: some of the local cops, I guess who were assigned 325 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: to tail him were talking to their friends, so word 326 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: got around and eventually somebody was talking to the news 327 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: media about it. Oh yeah, I you know, the the 328 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: word on him from people that know him. He got bullied. 329 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: But he also had a temper. He liked to sometimes 330 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: threatened to be physical with people. So for all of 331 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: his skinny looks and his weird, you know, nerd demeanor, 332 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: it looks like there was a dark, pretty dark side perhaps, 333 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: and he sent out the big creeper vibe to women, 334 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: and I tell you, women's creeper vibe almost correct. It's 335 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: funny as we go through all these these endless array 336 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: of the murderous characters who've done these shooting spreys or 337 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: the stabbing spray, it always ends up being a guy 338 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: that every single woman that he ever met rejected him, 339 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: nobody ever wants around. Yeah, it's like they know they 340 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: have an instinct, no criminal record, which is why they 341 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: really had to do a lot of detective work with 342 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: the DNA by going to the ancestry databases, they had 343 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: to do a lot. That's why it probably took over 344 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: a month to track this particular suspect. 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Well, 380 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: I guess the story you cannot avoid, which was major 381 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: news last night, what had happened and is major news 382 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: today because it is the all powerful National Football League, 383 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: was what happened to a Buffalo Bills safety by the 384 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: name of Damar Hamlin during the game last night between 385 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals in Cincinnati, or 386 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: after he made a tackle, he stood up. I was 387 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: watching it live and then he collapsed and the word 388 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: that came later is that he did suffer cardiac arrest. 389 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: He continues to be in critical condition in a hospital 390 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. The announcement was just made for those who care, 391 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: because last night you weren't allowed to talk about the game. 392 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: All concern was for Damar. When are they gonna play 393 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: the game? Where are they gonna finish it? They may not. 394 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 1: The announcement was made this afternoon. This game will not 395 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: be played this week. Well, they're running out of time, 396 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: but both Yeah, you have Week eighteen coming up this 397 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: weekend and just about all all the teams are playing 398 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Saturday on Sunday. It's the last week of the regular season, 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: so you can't play double headers. This is in baseball, no, 400 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: so football is not about double headers. And then the 401 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: playoffs start the week after, right, There's a possibility that 402 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,239 Speaker 1: they would push back the playoffs by week because there 403 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: is a week between the last the NFCFC championship games 404 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl. There's a two week thing in there, right, 405 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: so they could use one of those weeks if these 406 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: teams are in the playoffs. Right, if they are both 407 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: clinched the division. Yes, I believe so, yes, No, No, 408 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: which one didn't clinch the Bengals. The Bengals didn't clinch. Oh, 409 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: I try. If they won last night, they would have clinched. Yes, 410 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: but they're in the playoffs. Yes, the game had major 411 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: playoff implications though for seating. Yes, seating right, because the 412 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Bills are still fighting to be the number one seed, right, yes, 413 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: mister mister one word answer. Yeah, I'm trying to be quick, 414 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: thank you. That's supposed to be talking on the air 415 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: too much. So anyway, Yeah, that was an answer me 416 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: by the NFL. No decision yet when the game will 417 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: be played, if it will be played. Did you see 418 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: one of the possibilities what went wrong with his heart? 419 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: I'm reading one from the New York Times that it 420 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: could have been a freakish accent. Is that the story 421 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: you have, Commodio Cortis you see that one? It says 422 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: here a sports cardiologist at Harvard says that a blow 423 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: to the chest and just the right circumstances could lead 424 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: to cardiac arrest a perfect storm. The chest must be 425 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: struck at a precise place, at a precise moment, while 426 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: the heart is relaxing after squeezing out blood and with 427 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the right amount of force. I heard it says it's 428 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: not rare, but it's unusual. Yeah, there's only a few 429 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: hundred cases that they're aware of that's happened, and they 430 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: often happen to athletes. For example, a pitcher who gets 431 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: hit in the chest with a line drive off the bat. Yeah, 432 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: hits you in the right spot and and it's it's 433 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a one twentieth of a second 434 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: window where if it hits you right at that moment, 435 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: then your heart goes into a rhythm. Well, when you 436 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: consider all the collisions there are in football, right, they 437 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: would possibly be one time where this does happen. But 438 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: I tell you, it shocked everybody because you're just like, wow, leash. 439 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: We hear that they were doing CPR on him. He 440 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: stood up and then he just fainted backwards. Yeah, did 441 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: you notice they didn't replay it. I figured they were 442 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: gonna not replay it after they replayed it once and 443 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: then they did not replay again. At least I watched 444 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: for an hour. Well, it was all over the internet. 445 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: You could run it over and over again. We're trying 446 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: to figure out on the ESPN what to do, and 447 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: they kept going back and forth to the studio, then 448 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: back to the announcers. It's like, oh, your turn, your turn, 449 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: because they didn't know what to say. Everyone's getting around, 450 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: you know. We run into that sometimes with a breaking 451 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: news story. There's not a lot besides the headline you 452 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: got you got something the whole world's interested in. Everybody 453 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: is tuned in, except there's nothing to say because you 454 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: can't get the information or you don't nobody knows what's 455 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: going on. All they know is they had a guy 456 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: laid out on the field, and there's no there's no 457 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: way to tell you just everybody says the obvious. It's like, well, 458 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: I hope he's okay. Yeah, everybody hopes she's okay, but 459 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing else to add. And then when you have 460 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: an hour to fill watching him lay there, it's it 461 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: gets stuff. They took a break when they came back, 462 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: So the ambulance on the field, I said, that's rather 463 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: unusual to have an ambulance on the field, and usually 464 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: it's a cart where they cart him off. It's heart stopped, yeah, no, 465 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: it's heart stopped. And it took a lot to bring 466 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: them back. They used a defibrillator. They said it stopped 467 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: for nine minute or nine minutes into the game. But 468 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: what the word about now is brain damage. Right, Yeah, 469 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: they used the defibrillator to bring him back, right right, 470 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Because what I read is the heart goes into a 471 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: state of fibrillation, and that's when it's like quivering. Yeah, 472 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: it's no longer beating rhythmically, but it's quivering radically, and 473 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: so you have to hit it with a shock to 474 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: try to get it back into its rhythm. Because your 475 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: heartbeat is an electrical impulse that repeats over and over 476 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: and over again, and if the electricity gets disrupted, then 477 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: that's what the defibrillator will do. It says here there 478 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: is a twenty mill a second interval in the heart 479 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: cycle on a strong can cause in arrhythmia. Twenty milliseconds. 480 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: That's hard to even fathom how short that is. But 481 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: well that's why it almost never happens, except I guess 482 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, at least one concern here is whether or 483 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: not there could be his is a lack of blood 484 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: to the brain, and you know, he's still apparently unconscious. 485 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: He's on a respirator or that's why described me in 486 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: critical condition. So there, that's what the real concern is. 487 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Any was there any report as to how long it 488 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: took before the heart got started. No, I I misspoke. 489 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: It was nine minutes into the game. I thought for 490 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: a second his heart was gone nine minutes, But that'd 491 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: be too long it had that. Yeah, I don't get 492 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: All I heard was there was a report that they 493 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: worked furiously with the CPR and then with the you know, 494 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: I think like three minutes is the is the limit? Yeah, 495 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: but even less you can end up with brain damage. 496 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: It depends on a number of factors. Yeah. One doctor 497 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: says if he remains unconscious from seventy two to ninety 498 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: six hours after this happened, there's going to be a 499 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: real concern. Now. The other thing I thought when it happened, 500 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: when I realized they were doing CPR, I said he 501 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: might have had an undiagnosed heart condition of some kind. 502 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: That's happened to athletes that as Yeah. I remember Hank 503 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: Gathers collapsed on the court right eighties, early nineties. I've 504 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: heard of guys running in practice or running in track 505 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: and they suddenly collapse. I remember there was. There were 506 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: several like high school or college athletes that died on 507 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: the field, especially after a particularly rough practice when it 508 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: was hot and humid and they were sweating a lot 509 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: and dehydrated. Right, and they're turned out to be an 510 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: underlying genetic heart defect of some kind. When we point 511 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: out in this story, cardiac arrest differs from heart attacks, 512 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: which are caused when an artery supplying blood to the 513 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: heart is blocked, depriving the organ of blood. That can 514 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: lead to a rhythmia or even sudden death. But this 515 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: is something different, which is why they're exploring the possibility 516 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: was just a hit that he took one of him 517 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: when he tackled the guy. So they don't really know 518 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: any anything beyond that, but clearly the story has fascinated 519 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: the world because obviously the NFL has a huge following 520 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: and then when this happens, this was some unusual for 521 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: a game to be suspended. All right, we got more 522 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: coming up. Johnny Ken Show caf I Am six forty 523 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: Live everywhere the iHeart Radio app run from one to 524 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: four and you can go to the iHeart Radio app 525 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: and hear our show in its entirety as a podcast. 526 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Just typed in John and is that new John and 527 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: kennon demand? If you're a pitching it like it's brand newland. 528 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's just it's always there, when it's always 529 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: as soon as we're done, it'll be there. We're gonna 530 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: talk to the winner of Google Pool twenty twenty two 531 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: when the news is over after three o'clock. This person 532 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: went two for three of their picks. They weren't perfect, 533 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: but this was a year the points system came into play. 534 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: And also nobody nobody went three for three. We had 535 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: a trend for too many years where everybody would pick 536 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: the elderly and we'd get some three for threes. But 537 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: points wise, it's like a one when you're picking people 538 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: in their nineties by Queen Elizabeth. Sure, that's a one, 539 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, not even six year old queens to fall over, 540 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But did Jimmy Carter John goes on, so 541 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: you know, he was the biggest disappointment to h Entrance 542 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: had over one hundred Jimmy Carter guesses, And I see 543 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: people did pick Dick Van Dyke. He's still rolling at 544 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: ninety seven. I think he is two were around there? 545 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: Uh so? Uh? Will Mill Brooks is still going too. 546 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: Did you know that? I saw a podcast with him 547 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: getting interviewed by his granddaughters. Energy doesn't he a lot? 548 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: He was as sharp as ever. Yeah, No, I remember 549 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: he and Carl Reiner. Did you see that special they 550 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: did together about aging? It was really cool. I think 551 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: it was his HBO is so to you know what? 552 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I have it. I recorded it a long time ago, 553 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: and I never watched good. Yeah, and they make a 554 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: lot of jokes about but they would come and visit 555 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: each other every day, just to make sure you're still there. 556 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm still here. The car right, of course, passed away 557 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in his nineties. After the 558 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: goal pull would take it. Californa take a look at 559 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: California's new laws for twenty twenty three, and then Steve 560 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Gregory will be along. This is a horrible story. A 561 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: Riverside County sheriff's deputy was murdered by a guy who 562 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: should have been put away under California three strikes laws. 563 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: Don't you know this is going to happen, and it 564 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: always happens. The sheriff out there, Chad Bianco had some 565 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: things to say about a judge involved in the case. 566 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Steve will update us in the three o'clock hour. Here's 567 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: a story that we covered last month because in the 568 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: world of animals it was big news. And that was 569 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: the death of P. Twenty two, the mountain lion that 570 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: apparently had to be euthanized because well, it was eating 571 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Chihuahua's right John wasn't in Chihuahua. I just I just 572 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: ran my next door app that another mountain line was 573 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: found dead on the west side, somewhere, dead of what 574 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: natural causes? Oh, I mean, which is basically why P. 575 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Twenty two died. I don't understand the extended memorial for this. 576 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: Prepare yourself because this got me when this was released 577 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: the other day. There's going to be a memorial event 578 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: at Griffith Park on February fourth to celebrate the life. 579 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: It's actually at the Greek Theater. It's not the life 580 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: of a googar. But what is it? What is it? 581 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that you're gonna come. There's gonna be 582 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: a big picture of P. Twenty two up. There have 583 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: to come up and read their tributes. I know P 584 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: twenty two, well, what a great guy like it was? 585 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was trying to imagine what this 586 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be, like, Oh, it's gonna be It's gonna 587 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: be ridiculous. That's what are you? And I just could 588 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: hearted when it comes to animals, I no, I don't, 589 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of animals that die. I mean, 590 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: we should we have a sta I guess you know. 591 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: I'll rent out or soft theater. I saw a dead 592 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 1: swirl on the side of the road the other day. 593 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: He should be honored too, except mountain lions are dwindling 594 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: and they're protected. Yeah, but it's natural causes. It's not 595 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: like a hun Yeah. P twenty two got hit by 596 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: some cars or something, and I think his erratic behavior 597 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: was an indicator. He may have had something that there's 598 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: such a thing, but I'm sure. Well, the thing is, 599 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: you have to learn to adapt. You can't you can't 600 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: cross the road. You gotta look both ways if you're 601 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: a mountain lion. Now, the event will include speakers, music, dancing, 602 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: and food. It's free, but you have to register to 603 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: go register. You have to register to get a spot 604 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: because the Greek theater is only so big. Sure, yeah, 605 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this before, that an animal gets 606 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: a theater memorial. It's how people react to perceived celebrity 607 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: is fascinating to me because there's really no explanation for it. 608 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: There's there's time to time. You and I are flummoxed 609 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: by these stories that fascinate people. I don't get human 610 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: I really don't get human beings. I just don't get them. 611 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand them, Like what makes them enraptured with 612 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: certain types of people, you know, like the royals let's 613 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: say you are, or a certain specific animal who's really 614 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: no different than you know, hundreds and thousands of other 615 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: mountain lions that have lived and died in southern California. Oh, 616 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: there's a whole web page devoted to this elliot Greek 617 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Theater dot com events there it is p twenty two 618 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Celebration of Life, Saturday, February four at the twelve pm 619 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: AH doors open at eleven. Okay, the beloved mountain lion. 620 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, when my dog goes, I'm going to rent 621 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: out the iHeart Theater down the block, and you're all invited. 622 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: They my cat too, and your cat. Yeah, and a 623 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: lot of people would show up at it. And by 624 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: the way, some people talked about this animal. It's like 625 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: they met it. They didn't. They would just read stories 626 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: about it and maybe there's a video. But these people 627 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: were all acting like they had some personal connection to 628 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: a mountain lion, which you know, would probably eat your 629 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: chihuala if I came across. That's that's the thing. If 630 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: if Pete twenty two came into your house, he would 631 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: eat you. He would eat your kid, he'd eat your dog, 632 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: your cat, your bird. P twenty two is not a 633 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: noble animal. Pete twenty two is a carnivore. It's a 634 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: wild animal, wild animal, and if it does what wild 635 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: animals do, they act like if they met Pete twenty 636 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: two in the street, he would extend a paw and 637 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: shake your hand and put his arm around sign an 638 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: autography and say no, he'd go for your neck and 639 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: rip your carond artery out. All right. So when we 640 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: return Big Moment once a year, we announced the winner 641 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: of the Google Pool, in this case, of course, school 642 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: Pool twenty twenty two. She'll come on talk to us 643 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: for a few minutes. We'll tell you what we have 644 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: for her in terms of prizes. Are bad, John, that 645 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: was exciting to hear. I'm a shocked and I was floored. Anyway, 646 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: we'll go over some of the stats from Googlepool twenty 647 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: twenty two. We're not going to take calls in the 648 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour like we normally do of your Google 649 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Pool picks, but you can make them at kf I 650 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: AM six forty dot com and there's a link there 651 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: where you can send in your three picks for Googlepool 652 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. A reminder that this week and apparently 653 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: the entries close on Friday, January sixth. Anybody you picked 654 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 1: during this one week window will not count. So did 655 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: we have somebody famous go today or I don't know. 656 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: It seem like a lot of famous people died last 657 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: week or during the Christmas break right, Yeah, there was 658 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: a run at the end, run a run for the exits. 659 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: It was a run, you know, as they say, that 660 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: can happen a lot with the holidays. All right, So 661 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: that's coming up next. Johnny Ken kf I AM six 662 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app and we've got Mark 663 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: Ronner live in the twenty four Hour Cafe Newsroom