Speaker 1: Welcome into a Wednesday edition that Texans All Access from
Speaker 1: the Honday Texans a radio studio. I am your host,
Speaker 1: John Harris, football analystis sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Getting ready for what could be a wet Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Fingers crossed.
Speaker 1: It won't be, but it could be, but a big one.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless Week three Division opponent ozeroing two. Gotta get a win.
Speaker 1: Jaguars very excited to see what the Texans are bringing
Speaker 1: to North Florida. They are very excited to see Houston.
Speaker 1: They two years ago did mention one word about the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans. This year, all the talk is about the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans coming to North Florida to take on the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. Now we got plenty on the show.
Speaker 1: We've got Florida, Jacksonville, Florida native Xavier Hutchinson. Although Saint
Speaker 1: John's County is not Duval County, it's close enough. Saint
Speaker 1: John's County is kind of neighboring county where I got married,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So Xavier Hutchinson, He's going to join us
Speaker 1: talk about Jacksonville, to talk about life out of state,
Speaker 1: talk about this team, his role at wide receivers, who'll
Speaker 1: have excell leader to the show, speaking of Jacksonville. Man
Speaker 1: behind the mics, Frank Frangie is going to join the show.
Speaker 1: Our good friend Mark catches up with him, talk Jags.
Speaker 1: We'll do that a little later to the show, Mark obviously,
Speaker 1: and I will break down the quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Some report cards came out for Week two in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Do you agree or disagree with the grades that were
Speaker 1: handed out, including the great handed out to our own CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: which I don't agree with, uh, but you know their
Speaker 1: expectations built in, but I didn't agree with it. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about that in our next segment. By kicking off
Speaker 1: the show as he does each and every Wednesday, Executive
Speaker 1: vice president general manager of your Houston Texans, Nick Cassario.
Speaker 2: Here is Mark me Nick.
Speaker 3: Now joining us Now executive vice president and general Manager
Speaker 3: Nick Cassario.
Speaker 4: Nick, good to see you, fellows. How we doing doing well?
Speaker 3: Okay, so owing to let's talk about game won a
Speaker 3: Game two improvement improved in a lot of areas, but
Speaker 3: you didn't get the win.
Speaker 4: How do you see the big picture?
Speaker 5: Here, Nick, Yeah, similar really both games and say both
Speaker 5: came down to the last possession of the game. So
Speaker 5: some areas we improved, like you mentioned, didn't turn the
Speaker 5: ball over for the most part, took decent care of
Speaker 5: the ball. I mean they dropped a couple of interceptions,
Speaker 5: but in the end like no turnovers. You know, got
Speaker 5: to do a better job and thirn down collectively as
Speaker 5: a team. You know, tackling certainly showed up in a
Speaker 5: game against Tampa as well, so.
Speaker 4: We can improve in subtlely in some of those areas.
Speaker 4: The margins are small in.
Speaker 5: This league, so it's just we got to get back
Speaker 5: to work and try to find ways to get better.
Speaker 5: I mean, we can't sit around and worry about what happened.
Speaker 5: What happened happened. So now we just got to focus
Speaker 5: on Jacksonville and try to play good, clean football.
Speaker 1: Nick, before the game, always asked you three different keys,
Speaker 1: and I asked you about special teams and special teams.
Speaker 2: Last night showed up in a big way.
Speaker 1: Jalen with the number of returns he had and then
Speaker 1: Yakub with the block punt to really keep the team
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts about him?
Speaker 2: What overall they did.
Speaker 5: Sure, and we talked before the game was really gonna
Speaker 5: come down to third down, explosive plays in the kicking game,
Speaker 5: and felt there was an opportunity for us to make
Speaker 5: a play in a kicking game. We made multiple plays
Speaker 5: so kind of kept us in the game in some respects.
Speaker 5: Anytime you block a punt and return the ball, multiple
Speaker 5: explosive returns. Got close on a field goal block attempt,
Speaker 5: I mean Will kind of went around it and the
Speaker 5: ball ended up going kind of underneath them and hit
Speaker 5: the upright, so it made some plays in the kicking game.
Speaker 5: We felt that was an area that could potentially played
Speaker 5: our advantage and you know, certainly number of positives in
Speaker 5: that area. Like I said, we talked about third down
Speaker 5: and think just third down is going to be an
Speaker 5: important emphasis for for Jacksonville. One of the better third
Speaker 5: down teams in the league. And the explosive plays. So
Speaker 5: had our moments where we were able to create some.
Speaker 5: We didn't give up too too many, but they got
Speaker 5: a couple of chunks. So but that's that's what this
Speaker 5: league is about and ultimately that's what games come down to.
Speaker 3: Ed Ingram was back at guard and that reconfigured the
Speaker 3: line again, Nick, and you drive down the field opening
Speaker 3: possession and put the ball in the end zone with
Speaker 3: the throw from CJ to Nico. After that we had
Speaker 3: the field goal drive. But what happened to stall the
Speaker 3: offense until the fourth quarter we scored some more points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean credit to Tampa.
Speaker 5: They did some good things defensively, probably could have handled
Speaker 5: some looks a little bit better than we did. But
Speaker 5: you know, we just got to be able to execute
Speaker 5: when when it matters most first two drives, like you mentioned,
Speaker 5: you know, positive plays, and really we got a first down,
Speaker 5: first and goal and then we got called back with
Speaker 5: a holding penalty. So penalty is a little bit of
Speaker 5: an issue collectively as a team, and it's just those
Speaker 5: plays are potentially going to impact winning in a negative way,
Speaker 5: and you know, coming to find out if that was
Speaker 5: the case, you know, the other night against Tampa.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. But offensively, you're seeing some things from young guys.
Speaker 1: Your Woody Marx comes in there, does some good things.
Speaker 1: You know, Jayden Higgins has that big catch across the
Speaker 1: middle that makes a play, and obviously Jalen in the
Speaker 1: return game which sparks the offense at that point.
Speaker 2: You've seen the things you want from some of your young.
Speaker 1: Guys, and obviously they didn't mention Arianta Ersari, who played
Speaker 1: all game and left tackle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, any player, just your job is to take advantage
Speaker 5: of your opportunities however they present themselves, and we had
Speaker 5: a number players who have done that. We have good players.
Speaker 5: We feel like we have a good team. We haven't
Speaker 5: played good enough football to win. I bet that's the
Speaker 5: real hell of the NFL. But those young players are
Speaker 5: here for a reason and we feel that as they
Speaker 5: continue to grow and evolve, and if you're productive, you're
Speaker 5: going to get more opportunities. So we'll see how it
Speaker 5: all comes to fruition here moving forward.
Speaker 3: You mentioned third down on offense and two for nine,
Speaker 3: and I know you want to see that number be
Speaker 3: a lot better. What goes into that being in third
Speaker 3: and short or Hey, if we can convert a couple
Speaker 3: more of these than we have three and more carries
Speaker 3: or so, and that affects the running game, It effects everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, I mean the goal is to try to
Speaker 5: stay out of third and longer yardist situations, and number
Speaker 5: of those third downs were longer yardist situations. It puts
Speaker 5: you in a little bit of a disadvantageous position, and
Speaker 5: Tampa has a pretty good blitz package. They were able
Speaker 5: to execute that times where we were there where we
Speaker 5: kind of had them accounted for and had them blocked,
Speaker 5: but they were still able to make a play. But
Speaker 5: third down is usually a product the first and second down,
Speaker 5: so all of it's tied together both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: Really, Nick, I always think about this, go back with me.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, Michigan gets beat by Apple Watch
Speaker 1: and State. The next week, still kind of with a
Speaker 1: hangover from that, Oregon comes in or there's a good
Speaker 1: football team, but Oregon beats Michigan because it felt like
Speaker 1: Michigan was still kind of lingering on that lost applatch
Speaker 1: in State. How do you make sure that this loss
Speaker 1: last on Monday night doesn't linger it to the week
Speaker 1: against Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just the reality the NFL. I mean, it
Speaker 5: takes a certain level of discipline of mental toughness, So
Speaker 5: you can't let what happened the previous week impact what's
Speaker 5: going to happen the following week. We understand the challenges
Speaker 5: that are in front of us. Jacksonville is a good
Speaker 5: football team, let's talk about here in a minute. They
Speaker 5: certainly improved. So that's part of your job is to
Speaker 5: take inventory of what happened in the game, put that
Speaker 5: to bed, and then get ready for the next opponent,
Speaker 5: which in this case is Jacksonville. So it's going to
Speaker 5: take a collective effort. We're confident the people that we
Speaker 5: have in the building, but it's going to take a
Speaker 5: certain level of discipline, commitment, and mental toughness because that's
Speaker 5: what this league is about.
Speaker 3: Let's talk more about the passing game here, because Nico
Speaker 3: Collins made some big plays for you know that you're
Speaker 3: lacking in the tight end department, but you elevated Harrison Bryant,
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz made some big plays.
Speaker 4: What do you see it over the overall there?
Speaker 3: Nick and John talked about the rookies getting that more involved.
Speaker 3: Easier said than done sometimes, but they are contributing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody that's on the field making contribution to some capacity,
Speaker 5: and on offensively only had forty six forty seven plays,
Speaker 5: so really weren't on the field for that many plays.
Speaker 5: So however, many plays that you're allotted go out there,
Speaker 5: do you execute your assignment? Do you know your assignment
Speaker 5: number one, UM or two. Can you go out there
Speaker 5: and execute it and can you make a play when
Speaker 5: your number is called? And there are multiple examples of that,
Speaker 5: and Orre's multiple examples week one. So we just got
Speaker 5: to kind of continue to build on those things and
Speaker 5: figure out what are some of the things that we're
Speaker 5: doing well and try to accentuate those as we move forward.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harrison speaking Harrison Bryant. Harrison had a really nice
Speaker 2: block in the touchdown run for Nick. Was he entitled,
Speaker 2: did a nice job there. Okay, put the bucks in
Speaker 2: the rear view mirror.
Speaker 1: Thank god, get that game out, think everybody nice little
Speaker 1: gut punch. Didn't feel so good about it. But let's
Speaker 1: move forward to the Jacks in Jacksonville. A lot of
Speaker 1: the same names, but a new head coach, kind of
Speaker 1: a new vision, new everything.
Speaker 2: Nick Scouting report of the.
Speaker 5: Jackson Yeah, they've been very strategic about how they build
Speaker 5: a team. To your point, there's some carryover from previous years,
Speaker 5: but then say there's new say leadership with James and
Speaker 5: Liam kind of come in and put their imprint on
Speaker 5: the team.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Hired Anthony Campanelli on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 5: who's a very well respected coach, and then Grant you
Speaker 5: Dinsky's the offensive coordinator. You know, Liam calls the plays,
Speaker 5: but they kind of work in unison and Heath Farwell
Speaker 5: is a carryover from the previous staff. Is one of
Speaker 5: the better special teams coaches in the league. So it's
Speaker 5: kind of a blend of some new faces and new
Speaker 5: philosophies with some some existing players.
Speaker 4: But good football team. They've played really well.
Speaker 5: The one thing that they've done they've taken the ball
Speaker 5: away from especially defensive, they've taken the ball away. I
Speaker 5: think they have seven turnovers. There's six or seven turnovers
Speaker 5: over the first two games. They've almost eclipsed their total
Speaker 5: from last season. Starting a defensive side of about really strong,
Speaker 5: I would say, formidable front, really good edge players, you
Speaker 5: know tray Von and Heinz Allen. Heines Allen's one of
Speaker 5: the best defensive players in the league. Consistently causes problems
Speaker 5: for the opponent. Big inside with Hamilton and Armstead. They
Speaker 5: made a trade there at the at the end of
Speaker 5: the training camp acquired Saunders and then they signed guard
Speaker 5: Deck in free agency. He is kind of giving them
Speaker 5: a good place, kind of a hybrid a defensive end
Speaker 5: or outside linebacker, good kicking game player, and then you
Speaker 5: know the strategic signing. I would say Jordan Lewis, who
Speaker 5: they kind of earmarked to me, the nickel has been
Speaker 5: a really good player inside the formation, Tyson Campbell, it's
Speaker 5: been a kind of a mainstay of there and a
Speaker 5: perimeter and they're kind of rotating opposite him with Jerry
Speaker 5: and Jones, and they given Hunter some steps on the perimeter,
Speaker 5: a corner and Eric Murray's done a really good job
Speaker 5: for them in the first two games, so he's kind
Speaker 5: of solidified that safety position him and wingers, so they
Speaker 5: do a good job defensively. Carrid a lot of problems
Speaker 5: for the offense, and offensively, Liam's done a good job,
Speaker 5: I would say, of kind of putting his imprint on
Speaker 5: a system. Trevor's playing really good football. They have really
Speaker 5: good skill, they have explosive skill. They're fast. Brian Thomas,
Speaker 5: deanmi Brown. They signed free agency Travis when he's on
Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, I mean he's fast.
Speaker 5: I mean the two running backs, I mean Twoton's fast,
Speaker 5: Etn's fast, you know, and Strange just kind of emerges
Speaker 5: is the lead tight end and a pretty They made
Speaker 5: a number of changes on the offensive line. Looks like
Speaker 5: those players have worked out. And then then the kicking game,
Speaker 5: probably three of the best specialists combined between the kicker
Speaker 5: little you know, Metistic, the long snapper you know, and
Speaker 5: then they're punters. So they do a good job. It's
Speaker 5: a good football team. They're one and one. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 5: they probably should have beat Cincinnati the other day. Kind
Speaker 5: of came down to the end of the game, the
Speaker 5: last play where Cincinnati converted the sneak and that would
Speaker 5: end up being the difference in the game. So certainly
Speaker 5: a challenge playing on the road in the division against
Speaker 5: a good football team who's certainly improved.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to make sure we're ready to go.
Speaker 3: Et N I don't know whether to call it a
Speaker 3: renaissance or he's finally coming into his own how would
Speaker 3: you describe it, because he's making it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's always been a good player.
Speaker 5: Early on, it was kind of injuries, and he's healthy
Speaker 5: and he's fast and he's explosive, and they've given him
Speaker 5: a number of opportunities. He's their leading rusher week one.
Speaker 5: I mean, he had some chunk runs very explosive when
Speaker 5: he hits a whole. Tuton is very similar in that
Speaker 5: respect the guy who came out in the draft his
Speaker 5: past year. He's fast, I mean really fast. I mean
Speaker 5: they think they felt good about about Touton and Alan
Speaker 5: who they drafted, and they were able to move on
Speaker 5: from Bigsby. But Etn certainly creates a lot of problems
Speaker 5: if there's a crease. I mean, he can hit the
Speaker 5: home run at at any point.
Speaker 1: What are you seeing, Nick, and how they're using Travis,
Speaker 1: because I know there's so much talk about what Travis
Speaker 1: was gonna do. Is he's gonna play both ways, He's
Speaker 1: gonna be just transcendent. How are they using Travis on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're kind of I'd say this past weekend Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: he was a little more balanced defensively and offensive it
Speaker 5: looks like and defensively he's playing on a perimeter a
Speaker 5: little bit more than situational. It's kind of like we'll
Speaker 5: call it the third corner then offensively the third to
Speaker 5: fourth receiver, depending on however they're deploying them.
Speaker 4: But he's athletic, very athletic.
Speaker 5: I mean, he has very good hand eye coordination, runs well,
Speaker 5: has good quickness, he's a smart kid. He's a really
Speaker 5: good kid, you know, coming out. So they've done a
Speaker 5: good job and he's a big part of what they're
Speaker 5: doing both now and in the future.
Speaker 3: What's the early review on Trevor Lawrence and the effect
Speaker 3: that Liam Cohne and his staff are having on the
Speaker 3: quarter But.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Liam's done a good job historically over his career
Speaker 5: with quarterbacks. And we saw Baker the other night. I mean,
Speaker 5: Baker had a career year last year, you know with Liam,
Speaker 5: and Trevor's off to a good start. So doing a
Speaker 5: pretty good job taking care of the ball. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think he threw one the other day, one or
Speaker 5: two the other day, but for the most part, making
Speaker 5: good decisions. It's a quarterback friendly system that they employ.
Speaker 5: So between him and Grant, you know, they doing a
Speaker 5: good job of putting him in a position to succeed.
Speaker 1: You use the word fast a few times as you were, well,
Speaker 1: Dimie Brown, he's fast, and Travis hunder Chee's fast and
Speaker 1: toot and ran like a four to three to two
Speaker 1: at the combine. It felt like that was their mo o,
Speaker 1: like we're going out and we're getting speed. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be as fast on offense as we could possibly be.
Speaker 1: How do you see that kind of manifest itself in
Speaker 1: the way they play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shows up on the tape, shows up on the
Speaker 5: tape defensively as well. I mean Eric runs well, Eric's fast.
Speaker 5: I mean Travis is fast. I mean Jordan Lewis, you know,
Speaker 5: is fast. So I think the overall athleticism, they made
Speaker 5: a concentrated effort your peers to incorporate more athleticism and
Speaker 5: speed to kind of compliment some of the bigger players
Speaker 5: on the offensive defensive side of the ball, and they're
Speaker 5: seeing the fruits their labor sources speed.
Speaker 3: Nick talking about the Texans offense, and you talked about
Speaker 3: some things that need improvement, some things that looked good
Speaker 3: against Tampa Bay and even against the Rams.
Speaker 4: How important is patients? I know you want to win.
Speaker 3: But also we're looking at a work in progress in
Speaker 3: many ways because it is a new system and you
Speaker 3: open against two very tough teams. Can you speak to
Speaker 3: that a little bit, the process of developing this offense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, early part of the season, you're trying to figure out,
Speaker 5: really what does your team look like? What do you have?
Speaker 5: What do you have schematically, what do you have personnel wise?
Speaker 5: There's certain things we're going to do more of, maybe
Speaker 5: a little bit more of this, a little bit less
Speaker 5: of that, and a lot of that is a feel
Speaker 5: and getting a sense for a what the players are
Speaker 5: comfortable doing and what they're good at. So it just
Speaker 5: it takes work. I mean, there's no other way around it.
Speaker 5: I mean there's no magical formula that has required other
Speaker 5: than to go out there and do it and to
Speaker 5: execute and to get some positive reinforcement. If there's something
Speaker 5: that needs to get fixed, try to work to get
Speaker 5: it fixed. That's really what this league is about. And
Speaker 5: it's not going to change whether it's week three or
Speaker 5: week eighteen.
Speaker 1: Nick, what's the crossover between Grizzard and what he's doing
Speaker 1: with the Bucks and what Liam's doing with the Jacks.
Speaker 1: Because Grizzard steps in for coing with the Bucks, did
Speaker 1: it help it all to face the Bucks to give
Speaker 1: you kind of a little bit of a preview for
Speaker 1: the Jags at all?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it needs to be careful because sometimes it's because
Speaker 5: somebody's worked together been in the same system that it's
Speaker 5: automatically cutting past. It typically isn't some of the things
Speaker 5: that Tampa Bay is doing are different than what they
Speaker 5: did last year. Same thing with Jacksonville. Some of the
Speaker 5: things that they're doing are different than what Tampa is doing.
Speaker 5: So maybe there's a baseline sort of foundation that's in place,
Speaker 5: but ultimately comes back to the players. How are they
Speaker 5: using those players? Where are they putting them? Because you
Speaker 5: don't not every team has the same players, So there's
Speaker 5: some crossover some elements, but it's not a basic cutting paste.
Speaker 3: Nick players around the league, and no matter the team,
Speaker 3: no matter the player developing that player, how much of
Speaker 3: it is on coaching versus the individual themselves and what
Speaker 3: they need to do and figure out for themselves. I
Speaker 3: know it's got to be a marriage of sorts, but
Speaker 3: how do you gauge them?
Speaker 4: No, it's a great question mark. It's a combination of everything.
Speaker 5: It's their player's willingness to absorb the information, to take
Speaker 5: coaching and be able to apply it. Everybody has different
Speaker 5: mechanisms with which they learn in which they can Some
Speaker 5: players would rather go out there and do it physically,
Speaker 5: whether it's a walk through or in practice, as opposed
Speaker 5: to learning it in a classroom. All a piece of
Speaker 5: paper and from a coaching perspective, a lot of this
Speaker 5: is psychology and philosophy of what do we need to
Speaker 5: do to help the players?
Speaker 4: How do we reach them?
Speaker 5: So it takes a lot of communication, and it takes
Speaker 5: a lot of work, and it's probably not going to
Speaker 5: happen overnight.
Speaker 4: It normally doesn't. That's not the case.
Speaker 5: So but we have a number of players that have
Speaker 5: the right attitude, to have the right mindset, and ultimately
Speaker 5: it's going to come down to you. You doing your
Speaker 5: individual job as best you can on a basis.
Speaker 1: So on a Sunday with a Monday game, on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: are you red zone guy? Are you locked into next opponent?
Speaker 1: Are you whatever's on TV just popped on? How do
Speaker 1: you handle Sunday? From from your perspective.
Speaker 5: Yeah, really, it was kind of working on sort of
Speaker 5: their next opponent, not so much you're aware maybe what's
Speaker 5: going on in the league, but maybe you're focused on
Speaker 5: the next few teams that you're gonna play. So whether
Speaker 5: it's Jacksonville to Tennessee to Baltimore, and it's really off
Speaker 5: the the exos to the video. If the TV was on,
Speaker 5: especially on a Sunday, if there's a golf tournament that's on,
Speaker 5: They're probably going to be watching it, so you don't
Speaker 5: need a little bit of a distraction. I'm not a
Speaker 5: big red Zone guy, so I know that it disappoints
Speaker 5: a lot of people, but it's not my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: No, this has become a very contentious point about people
Speaker 1: watching games. I would imagine you can watch red Zone,
Speaker 1: especially you know Jack's coming up probably watching that game,
Speaker 1: maybe you know tuned into that. But there are some
Speaker 1: people that like they have to, like I have to
Speaker 1: have Red Zone on Sunday.
Speaker 5: You know, I could maybe tell you the number of
Speaker 5: times on one hait less than one hand.
Speaker 4: And I've watched Red Zone.
Speaker 3: So well, you're probably thinking, I'm gonna wait for the
Speaker 3: all twenty two on the games.
Speaker 4: I know we're gonna get the video. You're gonna watch it,
Speaker 4: so keep the focus there.
Speaker 3: Does it drive you kind of crazy? Because I know
Speaker 3: it drives him crazy. Johnny about watching a game on
Speaker 3: TV in general, because you don't see the whole development
Speaker 3: development of a play downfield, what's going on with the receivers.
Speaker 4: While the quarterbacks say.
Speaker 5: If you're watching an upcoming opponent, there is some merit
Speaker 5: to watching the television version of it, but you do
Speaker 5: kind of lose sight of kind of the big picture.
Speaker 5: It's kind of you start close and then it pans
Speaker 5: out to a certain point. But there might be some
Speaker 5: other things that you could pick up. When we talked
Speaker 5: about this on a few shows ago, talking about college
Speaker 5: and watching games live versus watching them on TV and
Speaker 5: then go back and scouting. So wherever you can gain
Speaker 5: information from. However you do it, there's merit to it.
Speaker 5: You just got to be careful of putting stock too
Speaker 5: much stock in one thing versus the other.
Speaker 1: Getting out seeing college games. No, you've been doing that,
Speaker 1: that's obviously. It feels like something that you'd like to
Speaker 1: do as well, to be able to see a game
Speaker 1: up close and see guys up close, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: a game, whether we're on the road just seeing a
Speaker 1: game up close and just kind of getting a read
Speaker 1: on early read on guys.
Speaker 2: How how's that going from?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, it's really top to bottom. It's not
Speaker 5: just these certain players. There are certain graded level of players.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's anybody from call it sixty four, sixty
Speaker 5: five down to fifty seven or fifty eight. Those players
Speaker 5: it might be late to more free agents. So just
Speaker 5: having a big picture understanding of as many players as possible,
Speaker 5: understanding that they're going to be relevant. You know, with
Speaker 5: the University of Houston and you know they've done a
Speaker 5: good job and they're off to a good start, they're
Speaker 5: gonna have some players who are gonna factor in. And
Speaker 5: there's gonna be some of those players that, quite frankly,
Speaker 5: we're gonna have in the building in the spring for.
Speaker 4: A local day.
Speaker 5: So it's just kind of taken inventory of what's out there,
Speaker 5: what's going on, who's playing, how are they playing.
Speaker 4: It's really more of a big picture.
Speaker 5: Since as opposed to getting so focused and caught up
Speaker 5: on one particular player or one particular play.
Speaker 1: I know that we have a bye week coming up,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if this is a lot.
Speaker 1: I know professionals, you others, Scotts from other teams are
Speaker 1: up in the press box for games. But if you
Speaker 1: wanted to go see you know, Seattle, because that'll be
Speaker 1: our opponent after the could you go to that game?
Speaker 1: Could you scout that live? Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you'd want to, but could you do guys out loud? Now,
Speaker 1: I mean through the advanced scouting process. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: really the only way that you can do it. I
Speaker 1: mean there's some other mechanisms that a lot of colleges
Speaker 1: have tried. The penalized accordingly for that, but I mean,
Speaker 1: could you go, like, I don't know who Seattle's playing
Speaker 1: the week before they play.
Speaker 2: Either, but could you go watch that.
Speaker 5: There's certain rules and parameters in place that we have
Speaker 5: to comply with. So that's not something that's going to
Speaker 5: be on my dance.
Speaker 4: That figured Nick at practice this time of year.
Speaker 3: We see you during training camp and that's ones against
Speaker 3: ones and a lot of action and padded practices and
Speaker 3: things like that. How is it for you? What are
Speaker 3: you observing this time of year? Full game week mode,
Speaker 3: a lot of look team against the first teamers on
Speaker 3: each side of the ball.
Speaker 4: How do you approach it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just watching that respective side of the ball
Speaker 5: who was live and just looking at the play and
Speaker 5: the execution and again kind of a big picture. I mean,
Speaker 5: you guys see me back there standing. It's really more
Speaker 5: just to kind of see everything that's going on, and
Speaker 5: it's not necessarily that you're watching one particular player or
Speaker 5: just watching part of this is just education from a
Speaker 5: schematic standpoint. Okay, hey, this player is supposed to be
Speaker 5: here on this play, and if he's doing the right thing, great,
Speaker 5: And then you go back and watch a practice film.
Speaker 5: This way, when you're having discourse or dialogue with the
Speaker 5: coaching staff, you can kind of talk in an educated fashion.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of stay back there, kind of stay
Speaker 5: out of the way, but watch the live sort of
Speaker 5: side of the balls as it's happening.
Speaker 1: When you go back and you watch practice film, Nick,
Speaker 1: what do you what is it that you focus on?
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at everything. Do you look at individuals?
Speaker 1: K I know you guys film everything.
Speaker 4: Do you look at.
Speaker 1: Individual you look at seven on seven? What is it
Speaker 1: you kind of focus on what you watch the practice?
Speaker 5: Most of the team team is seven on seven and
Speaker 5: then you know, some of the individual drills if maybe
Speaker 5: a player's coming back from something, or watch what he's
Speaker 5: doing an individual drill hole he's moving.
Speaker 4: So it all depends.
Speaker 5: But most of the team stuff, offense, defense, and special
Speaker 5: teams kind of go through all three phases and just
Speaker 5: kind of hey, what happened in practice, how to go
Speaker 5: what are some things that we can clean up or
Speaker 5: improve and then just move on to the next day.
Speaker 3: All Right, we were talking about things you watch, and
Speaker 3: we'll wrap it up with this, because I've been in
Speaker 3: your office and you have one of the financial channels,
Speaker 3: So is it going to be CNBC, Bloomberg, Fox Business?
Speaker 4: That's the one that for sure. Just a lot of
Speaker 4: information up there, and I have.
Speaker 5: The volume down, so it's not necessarily listening to what
Speaker 5: they're saying. But if there's a guest, or maybe there's
Speaker 5: a CEO or some leader that's on or an analyst
Speaker 5: who you follow that might have some insight. There's certain folks,
Speaker 5: just like anything, you'd like to listen to certain people
Speaker 5: for information. And my guy's pretty smart, that woman's pretty smart.
Speaker 5: Oh that's pretty good insight. Oh maybe there's an idea
Speaker 5: there that causes some generation, whether it's an individual application
Speaker 5: of your portfolio or just a big picture leadership trend
Speaker 5: or something else. So try to stay away from the
Speaker 5: chaos and some of the newsy items. I love the markets.
Speaker 5: I just enjoy following them on a day to day basis.
Speaker 5: So part of it is educating myself and just staying informed.
Speaker 5: And sometimes it's a good release or an outlet from
Speaker 5: like the Red Zone Channel News.
Speaker 3: Second next week Nick's picks for stocks I have of those.
Speaker 2: Was the last time we had CNBC on our TV.
Speaker 3: Never I think I'd even have to make sure we
Speaker 3: had it because I wanted to check if Nick was
Speaker 3: going to be able to get it. Okay, Nick, thanks
Speaker 3: a lot, good luck this week.
Speaker 4: Thanks fellas.
Speaker 1: Next week, man, we got a lot of things to
Speaker 1: talk about with Nick and those those might be good
Speaker 1: for a bye week.
Speaker 2: We'll circle that, all right, we get back.
Speaker 1: Some quarterback report card grades came out from the Bleacher Report,
Speaker 1: marking out discussed, including what they gave to CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 4: Disagree, but we'll.
Speaker 1: Discuss it next right here in Texas Access, Chapping everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from
Speaker 1: the Texans Radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice of
Speaker 1: the Texans, Mark Vandermer. Mark, I saw this earlier today
Speaker 1: and I thought, I love to talk about the NFL,
Speaker 1: not just the Texans, And we've talked a lot about
Speaker 1: the Texans, talked a lot about the game with from
Speaker 1: Monday Night with Nick a Sario previewing the Jags a
Speaker 1: little bit. I like going around the NFL and talking
Speaker 1: around talking about the NFL, and so I saw this
Speaker 1: from Bleacher Report.
Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. They do report.
Speaker 1: Cards for each week of the NFL for every quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I thought some of these were interesting. Now the
Speaker 1: one I haven't seen, and I'm getting this the exact
Speaker 1: same time that you're getting that, and that is CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud from the Texans. And they did this in a
Speaker 1: grade order if you ca Okay, maybe not. It looks
Speaker 1: like they did this in alpha. Oh they did an
Speaker 1: alphabetical team order.
Speaker 4: Oh geez leach.
Speaker 1: Your report gave CJ. Stroud a d well for the
Speaker 1: first two games. For the game against the Bucks, a
Speaker 1: d A d well. Look, you lost the game, right
Speaker 1: lost the game? You didn't You didn't win the game.
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like Mike McDaniel right now.
Speaker 1: You lost the game because you didn't win the game.
Speaker 1: Had you won the game, you wouldn't have lost the game.
Speaker 1: John can you follow along?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 3: I have so many jokes based on that SoundBite with
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, who I happen to like.
Speaker 4: But my gosh, that's really tough.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Look these grades, Johnny, All right, let's say fourth
Speaker 3: and ten.
Speaker 4: You stop them?
Speaker 3: Is it still a D right or does the grade
Speaker 3: go up because you actually won the game. And I'm
Speaker 3: not blaming the loss on the defense. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: plenty of blame to go around. There is plenty to
Speaker 3: assign in different areas. Obviously, if you make the stop
Speaker 3: on fourth and ten, you win the football game, in
Speaker 3: all likelihood, you still have to kill the clock. They
Speaker 3: still have timeouts, still got to do those things.
Speaker 4: Yep. So who knows what happens.
Speaker 3: Maybe you miss a field goal, you know, who knows,
Speaker 3: Maybe they block a field goal.
Speaker 4: Maybe something happens weird.
Speaker 3: Because you can't just take knees because if you took
Speaker 3: knees after you make that fourth and ten stop and
Speaker 3: had you sacked him, he it was from the thirty
Speaker 3: two or whatever. He's even deeper than that, obviously, So
Speaker 3: emy's gonna make that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna make that. You're gonna go up twenty
Speaker 1: two to fourteen at that point. Now they've got no timeouts,
Speaker 1: about a minute left, and they gotta go to length
Speaker 1: of the field and score touchdown.
Speaker 3: And the two Yeah Texans did it against the Ravens
Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football twice in the fourth quarter sixteen
Speaker 3: points bang bang.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the speaking of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: This is what Bleacher Report said and why he ended
Speaker 1: up getting the D. I want to see if you
Speaker 1: agree with this, Gabe. They talked earlier about the majority
Speaker 1: of Hugh Stereo attack during Monday's contest with on short
Speaker 1: quick passes with the receivers getting the majority of the
Speaker 1: yardage after the catch.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that really.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love that to be the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't not the majority, so to speak, but
Speaker 3: I'd love that to be a lot of yak and
Speaker 3: short passes.
Speaker 1: Screen the Woody or I mean check down the Woody
Speaker 1: screened Nick. Okay, that's fine, but he also hit X
Speaker 1: on that one. We'll have X later on. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to him about this and held a touchdown, yep, touchdown
Speaker 1: to Nico. So I don't know that I agree with that,
Speaker 1: but they say this. Stroud's fourth quarter performance was disheartening.
Speaker 1: With an opportunity to take a three point lead, the
Speaker 1: third year quarterback missed Nico Collins in the corner of
Speaker 1: the end zone on third down from the one yard line.
Speaker 2: Okay, I got it.
Speaker 3: I got an issue with with with missing I got
Speaker 3: an issue as opposed to First of all, there's a
Speaker 3: the coverage back there, as I am a column was
Speaker 3: on Nico, like on Nico's hip, like in perfect position.
Speaker 2: So the throw had to be absolutely perfect to.
Speaker 1: Even have a chance, right, So I don't know that
Speaker 1: I agree with that per se. Then he says a
Speaker 1: play later, Oh, he's talking about the corner of the
Speaker 1: end zone. He's talking the first I'm sorry, he's talking
Speaker 1: with the first one. Nico in the back of the
Speaker 1: end zone. Again, a ball you gotta throw in the
Speaker 1: back corner of the end zone, and I would, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a tough catch, but the ball did I mean,
Speaker 1: Nico's trying to get his feet down, it's extended. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a tough catch. It's probably thrown in the only
Speaker 1: spot it could have been thrown to be a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Maybe on the third yard closer maybe, and it's a
Speaker 3: catch maybe maybe. To me, that play looks like a
Speaker 3: play where you have a little more field to run
Speaker 3: under it, right.
Speaker 4: It looks like it. I don't know, But I don't
Speaker 4: know is that the goal?
Speaker 3: Is that a third and goal at the one play
Speaker 3: or is that a better third and goal from the
Speaker 3: eight play?
Speaker 2: I can go I think you're I think you're there
Speaker 2: on it or.
Speaker 4: Even you know, farther upfield.
Speaker 1: But the throw itself is and I think that they're
Speaker 1: maybe holding CJ to a higher standard like the two throws,
Speaker 1: because they say this a play later Strout Stroud airmail
Speaker 1: they passed to Collins that didn't even give the offense
Speaker 1: a chance a fourth down.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I think the play was the away as
Speaker 2: it was, but he makes.
Speaker 3: A point in that, Hey, it's fourth down if you
Speaker 3: get if you get picked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they could run it back, they could run it back.
Speaker 3: I good call, But do you want to give somebody
Speaker 3: a chance at a jump ball or something? Maybe that's
Speaker 3: a play call thing. Look, it didn't work every Like
Speaker 3: I said, plenty of blame to go around when you
Speaker 3: don't execute. And you know what I always say about
Speaker 3: play calling. If it works, you're a genius. If it
Speaker 3: doesn't work, you're a bum. That's what the chorus says
Speaker 3: people watching. But I get it, you know they feel
Speaker 3: that way. They feel like we didn't execute, so mean
Speaker 3: think about it today, Think about it Sunday.
Speaker 1: If DJ Jennson and Broncos stay six inches two left
Speaker 1: away from the long snapper, Shane Stikeen is getting grilled
Speaker 1: all week while he settled for a sixty yard field
Speaker 1: goal but instead fifteen yard penalty moves it up. They
Speaker 1: win twenty nine to twenty eight. Now Shane Stikeen is
Speaker 1: the next best play caller ever. Daniel Jones is the greatest,
Speaker 1: and away you go. It literally changes if he doesn't
Speaker 1: hit the long snapper.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, did the offense look better
Speaker 3: on Monday night than it did the previous Sunday?
Speaker 4: I felt like it did. Yeah, I thought I felt
Speaker 4: like it did.
Speaker 3: And I know that this is nothing we want to
Speaker 3: throw a parade about down You're right, nobody's printing shirts
Speaker 3: making rings about that, believe me. But that is an
Speaker 3: improvement from week one to week two. Now you got
Speaker 3: to go to Week three and you playing in the
Speaker 3: AFC South against the Jacksonville Jaguars, who played the Bengals
Speaker 3: well enough to win, but they didn't win. I mean
Speaker 3: that's another one right there. Yeah, that's another one. What
Speaker 3: it could have should have They should have won that
Speaker 3: game and they didn't win that game. You pick off
Speaker 3: Browning three times and he comes off the bench and
Speaker 3: does that, and you're still unable to win the football game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is bizarre. Bengals didn't have the lead to late
Speaker 3: in that game. It was what it was. You got
Speaker 3: to live with it. On to two is not a
Speaker 3: death sentence.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 3: Back to the CJ. Stroud grade thing, I have a fit.
Speaker 3: It's Barnwell doing this.
Speaker 2: It's bleacher report.
Speaker 3: Oh, bleacher report. I feel like this is based on
Speaker 3: we thought he's going to be really good or at
Speaker 3: least much better this. Yeah, I think there's an expect yeah,
Speaker 3: and it hasn't been where it needs to be. To me,
Speaker 3: I'm not blaming it all on the absence of Christian Kirk,
Speaker 3: but I'm thinking it's a big factor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that plays a role.
Speaker 3: Getting Kirk back is going to be big to this
Speaker 3: passing game. Uh, getting healthier. I know no one wants
Speaker 3: to hear it. It's not excuses, it's reasons. And maybe
Speaker 3: when they get a little more fortified, have a little
Speaker 3: more time together with Nick Keley, maybe things get better.
Speaker 3: There's no guarantee, but maybe things get better. And I'm
Speaker 3: hopeful and I want.
Speaker 4: To see it. So see it.
Speaker 2: You brought up one Trevor Lawrence, Yes, grade?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 2: Se minus?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: See c minus uh the Obviously, the big talking point
Speaker 1: there was the interpersonal relationship between he and Liam Cohen.
Speaker 1: Through two interceptions, three touchdowns through for two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy one yards twenty four forty two. Lawrence told reporters
Speaker 1: after the game, coach is really passionate, which is something
Speaker 1: that I've noticed ever since he's been here.
Speaker 2: I love that about him, and we'll get fired up.
Speaker 2: There's times, and I'm not always that way.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a little more like this, holding his
Speaker 1: hands on a level line, but he's honestly brought a
Speaker 1: little bit more of that out of me, which I
Speaker 1: think has been good for our offense. That said, as
Speaker 1: bleacher Report points out, coen Is have yet stop Lawrence
Speaker 1: from making poor decisions. Quarterback has stretches where he plays
Speaker 1: really well, then it'll turn the ball over or make
Speaker 1: a bad decision. Against the Bengals, he threw a pair
Speaker 1: of interceptions, including one in the red zone.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think it was right in the in the.
Speaker 3: Enze in the end zone, and it was kind of
Speaker 3: ridiculous looking. You never know what happens going into those things,
Speaker 3: but it looked very Trevor Lawrence at his worst. But
Speaker 3: He's made plays this year where he looks like Trevor
Speaker 3: Lawrence at his best at times, and that's who he
Speaker 3: is right now at home, they're gonna be all fired
Speaker 3: up to beat the Texans. I'm more worried about Etn.
Speaker 3: I've said that before, I'll say it again. But as
Speaker 3: far as Trevor's grade goes, yeah, the two picks are
Speaker 3: a big blemish, huge in a loss where I mentioned
Speaker 3: Brownie at three picks. But I feel like David Kelly
Speaker 3: right now, Wait, it's you can't you can't wait, what
Speaker 3: was it? You can't win when you get four turnovers
Speaker 3: even if the other team turns it over five times.
Speaker 4: Or something like that. I'm sorry, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 4: It wasn't It wasn't that.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I kind of knew where he was coming from, though, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know they're turning it over, but we are too,
Speaker 3: and we're a mess.
Speaker 4: That was his point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we kind of we won the turnover
Speaker 3: margin in that game against the Dolphins, right, I.
Speaker 4: Believe we did. Oh God, yes, I believe we did.
Speaker 3: However, I understood his point that we're still a mess too,
Speaker 3: we're coughing it up all over the place.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: It's not like we're taking their turnovers and turning them
Speaker 3: into gold. We turned it into another turnover. That's how
Speaker 3: we are. And yeah, so what we were plus one?
Speaker 3: We're not that good at football team. See, I'm redoing
Speaker 3: the speech for him.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would have been a great White House Press secretary
Speaker 3: no matter who the party is, I could be your guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely could.
Speaker 1: Okay, this quarterback was twenty five of thirty eight for
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen yards, two touchdowns, three carries for
Speaker 1: thirty three yards, and a gutsy twelve yard escape on
Speaker 1: fourth and ten, And that would be one Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: against the Texans.
Speaker 2: They gave him a B plus.
Speaker 4: How what plus? They gave him a beat plus? Well,
Speaker 4: that's just stupid.
Speaker 2: If he's not an A, I don't know what is.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: That is a total eight performance. He got the crap
Speaker 3: knocked out of him all game long. He gets hurt,
Speaker 3: gets up, talking smack, and that keeps the team going, Oh,
Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta win this one. Yeah, he look
Speaker 3: at him, Look at him. Look what he's putting his
Speaker 3: body on the Okay, even on the scramble he got
Speaker 3: tripped up. A lot of guys aren't getting up after that,
Speaker 3: or they're getting up very gingerly scramble.
Speaker 2: In which he kind of grabbed his foot or his
Speaker 2: ankle at some point. Remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you guys are like, he's alright. CJ.
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson was standing near him, and apparently that's was
Speaker 1: kind of barking at him and break Baker got up,
Speaker 1: like huh, So they started getting each other's face.
Speaker 2: I think the Bucks love that.
Speaker 4: I think they love that about it. The players doesn't
Speaker 4: love that about who does it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Love it about him.
Speaker 3: Although when I was on with Sean had Set that
Speaker 3: morning we were talking about Mayfield, I said, you know,
Speaker 3: I think that the first impression of Baker to a
Speaker 3: lot of people, or first impressions in college, they didn't
Speaker 3: like him hotthead.
Speaker 4: Look what he's doing at midfield. He's if you're.
Speaker 3: Not an ou guy tech before that, if you're not
Speaker 3: one of those people, you don't like him.
Speaker 4: Maybe right.
Speaker 1: I don't like shaking hands with Kansas, and Kansas doesn't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like it, doesn't shake his hand.
Speaker 3: I think the likability was low. I think the longer
Speaker 3: he plays like this, He's going to be beloved because
Speaker 3: he is so tough.
Speaker 2: You want me to I think, I think tjb okay
Speaker 2: with me telling a story. So TJ.
Speaker 1: Reeves is my buddy, used to my sideline Carter part
Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Bucks. He's been doing it for
Speaker 1: a long time. He and Jean had been together for
Speaker 1: a long time. Right, we had him on last week.
Speaker 1: You did a great job interviewing him. He loved talking
Speaker 1: to you. He had a blast. So he said, let
Speaker 1: me tell you about Baker. And so Baker's first year,
Speaker 1: one year, four million bucks with the Bucks in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, they get if you remember, they beat the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the wildcard round. The Eagles kind of throwing
Speaker 1: a towel year and they were just garbage, and but
Speaker 1: the Bucks kick the crap out of them. They go
Speaker 1: to Detroit and they hang in there with Detroit all
Speaker 1: the way to the end. They get the ball back
Speaker 1: and late in the game Baker through interception to Derek
Speaker 1: Barnes the gut punts loss. They lose, not going to
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. Baker's distraught, and so TJ describes
Speaker 1: it you know, in the Detroit locker room. Like he's
Speaker 1: probably twenty yards away from Baker, right, and TJ is live,
Speaker 1: so I'm I record everything and I send it back
Speaker 1: to you when I get because it's hard to get
Speaker 1: signal in the locker room, so they were getting a signal,
Speaker 1: and so he does a live from the locker room
Speaker 1: report literally live, which I'm like, holy smokes, that's tough. Anyways,
Speaker 1: Baker is all the way down there and catch his
Speaker 1: eyes with TJ and it's like I'm not bleeping doing
Speaker 1: it right now or something like that. You know, he
Speaker 1: just he got off this tough loss. So TJ's totally
Speaker 1: understanding of that. Like, you know, players look at me
Speaker 1: when I got the mic after a loss and they're
Speaker 1: like they want to take the mic and beat me
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 2: Like I understand it. I totally get it.
Speaker 1: So TJ's like, okay, you know, kind of gets a
Speaker 1: handser like okay, it's all right. So he goes and
Speaker 1: he gets a couple of players, He gets Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: and he's he's with balls. He sees Baker come around
Speaker 1: the corner coming towards him. He points at him. He's like,
Speaker 1: you want me and TJ's like, I guess, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and so he's like, coach, appreciate it, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Baker walks over to him gives him five seven minutes
Speaker 1: live Wow. After all that, and apparently what had happened
Speaker 1: was Baker in the locker room. Our buddy Nelson Luiz
Speaker 1: is the PR directory, former GHOS PR director from a
Speaker 1: Rocket's PR director, and he finds Nelson goes, hey, where's TJ.
Speaker 2: I got to talk with him.
Speaker 4: Oh, so he was reacting in the moment and now
Speaker 4: he wants to make it right.
Speaker 1: And then he wanted to make it right him and
Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap. That is that's That's the
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback. He hasn't always got that impression from
Speaker 1: him that there was more there than you know. He's
Speaker 1: got kind of that slide talking trash, but behind it
Speaker 1: it's an intense competitor, but he seems to care for everybody,
Speaker 1: not only on the field.
Speaker 2: The fact that he sought out TJ.
Speaker 1: And I looked at TJ like, I've never had a
Speaker 1: player do that, Like I never had a player like
Speaker 1: request to talk to me. Because he was like I've
Speaker 1: had coaches that have told me after the game to
Speaker 1: get bent. I've had that players are usually pretty good.
Speaker 1: They don't want to do it, and I could tell
Speaker 1: and I try and get a minute out of him
Speaker 1: if they've lost all that. But the fact that Baker
Speaker 1: that spends four or five minutes with him after he
Speaker 1: gets wife, Yeah, I was like that.
Speaker 2: That tells you a little bit about about Mayfield.
Speaker 3: But he got a B plus according to this great
Speaker 3: plus who did well Johnny and B plus.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 1: There's a certain quarterback in our division, in our division,
Speaker 1: in our division, Indiana Jones.
Speaker 2: That's right. He ends up getting what do you think
Speaker 2: he got?
Speaker 4: He got an A? He did? He got an A.
Speaker 4: I think it's a minus he got. Don't want to
Speaker 4: hand out those a's too easily. No, he got an A. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones twenty three of thirty four for three sixteen,
Speaker 1: one passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown, all of this
Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos, like the Texans, a defense that
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought was one of the top
Speaker 1: five in the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is notable. Those are really pretty numbers for
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones. I think it really helps when you have
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor running at six point five yards per pop,
Speaker 3: what for one hundred and sixty five yards? Yeah, Now
Speaker 3: he did have a long run in this one, so
Speaker 3: we got skewed numbers. Okay, but I'm not taking the
Speaker 3: long run out. He had a sixty eight yard run
Speaker 3: in this game. Yeah, all right, let's take it out.
Speaker 3: He still gets one hundred. Basically, he still gets one
Speaker 3: hundred one hundred on twenty four carries. That's big star
Speaker 3: up right there. That's really helping your offense. That's grinding
Speaker 3: the clock, that's grinding the chains. That's all of it.
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones capitalizing, You got down to your boy Downs
Speaker 3: is playing well. Yeah, he's playing well. And Tyler Warren
Speaker 3: is looking pretty good so far too. It's not earth shattering,
Speaker 3: but it's really He's a rookie seventy nine yards in
Speaker 3: this game against the Denver defense that's supposed to shut
Speaker 3: people down. Oh, this team, watch out. They're gonna win
Speaker 3: that division. They're gonna go to the super Bowl. This
Speaker 3: is such a recency bias league Denver. If you weren't
Speaker 3: into the Chiefs, Denver was a real sexy pick coming
Speaker 3: into the season because your last memory of Denver was
Speaker 3: going to Buffalo.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that's gonna be hard. Everybody loses up there.
Speaker 3: Your last memory of the Chargers is justin Herbert throwing
Speaker 3: four picks in this building in a season in which
Speaker 3: he only threw three all regular season long. So you're thinking, yeah, Denver, Denver, Denver,
Speaker 3: definitely this team, Sean Payton High.
Speaker 2: Team, the SEMy Sweety team, Yeah, the.
Speaker 3: NF super hot with them, Peyton, It's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: And they go to Indianapolis and yeah, they should have
Speaker 4: won the game. They won a game, but they didn't
Speaker 4: win the game.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Denver is a bad team by
Speaker 3: any stretch, but it is noticeable. How notable how they
Speaker 3: give up three hundred plus through the air and one
Speaker 3: to sixty five.
Speaker 4: Of the ground to Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's really not exactly what they want to
Speaker 3: be doing. Nope, So we'll see how it all plays out.
Speaker 3: But the Chargers are the super sexy team right after
Speaker 3: beating the Raiders, and they beat the Chiefs in Brazil,
Speaker 3: who are the Chiefs right now? Not really sure. They
Speaker 3: don't look like who they were, looks like they're on
Speaker 3: the way down. But I'm not gonna write them off.
Speaker 3: They're rowing two and they're the freaking Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to them and their quarterback in
Speaker 1: a second. Listen to this drive. Ten drives for the Colts.
Speaker 1: Want you to tell me what word is missing? Field goal,
Speaker 1: field goal, touchdown downs, touchdown, end of half, field goal downs,
Speaker 1: field goal, field.
Speaker 4: Goal, no punting, Rigbert does.
Speaker 1: Sanchez has not punted this year. He's he's not punted
Speaker 1: this year, maytag repair man dated reference. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say it anyway. Yeah, fourteen of seventeen offensive drives have
Speaker 1: resulted in scores for the Colts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's looking pretty good right now with this group.
Speaker 2: Now, do you remember the first two games.
Speaker 4: Of last year, Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1: Clink Kubiak and the New Orleans Saints had just gone
Speaker 1: into Dallas.
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about and put up.
Speaker 2: In forty burger.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Saints were going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They had had two weeks of forty plus points, and
Speaker 1: by mid season it imploded.
Speaker 3: I was hapry for Kubiak, thinking, oh, he's gonna get
Speaker 3: any job totally. It's gonna be big son as a
Speaker 3: head coach.
Speaker 1: Totally. So here's the other side of this. Listen to
Speaker 1: the Broncos nine drives, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown,
Speaker 1: punt interception, a mad one field goal. So it didn't
Speaker 1: like the Colts are bringing the eighty five Bears to
Speaker 1: the party either. No, that was a shot. That was
Speaker 1: a shootout. Now, they played the Dolphins in the first one.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins stunk and they do stink. But that Colts
Speaker 1: defense is not It's lou Ana Roumo. It's a good defense.
Speaker 1: He's a good defensive coordinator. It's not great. We got
Speaker 1: to get our offensive house in order. But the Colts
Speaker 1: face the Titans this week, so more than likely three
Speaker 1: and zero. But we'll see what Daniel Jones does with
Speaker 1: that one. But Daniel Jones a on his report card
Speaker 1: against the Denver Broncos the hottest thing in America. All right,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Mahomes, last one will do?
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Mahomes against the Eagles sixteen of nineteen for one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty seven yards, a touchdown and a pick. Seven
Speaker 1: carries for sixty six yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They lost.
Speaker 4: The Eagles.
Speaker 1: Chiefs are also owed to Patrick Mahomes earned a C plus.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, C minus, C minus the same as Trevor Lawrence. Now,
Speaker 1: I do think that there is some expectation built in,
Speaker 1: like with CJ. With Trevor, you kind of really don't
Speaker 1: know Daniel Jones like anything he does at this point.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's been really, really good. But against Eagles,
Speaker 1: Eagles have a good, good defense C minus For Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3: That running number stands out. And I watched a bit
Speaker 3: of that game. He was running the ball. He was
Speaker 3: and we've always talked about this, that's such a weapon
Speaker 3: for him. Yep, He's going to it a lot more.
Speaker 3: It feels like because he needs to. They don't have
Speaker 3: the horses to catch the football that they used to
Speaker 3: and if they're not running it, well it's what else
Speaker 3: are you gonna do? And Kelsey still makes plays. Kelsey
Speaker 3: still out there. Did you see Taylor Swift and how
Speaker 3: they barricaded her and how they walked her from and
Speaker 3: not they had this moving on wheels so people couldn't
Speaker 3: take pictures, which is weird to me.
Speaker 4: Oh do you think she's showing just kidding them?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I went there.
Speaker 3: Conspiracy theater Texans all access All right?
Speaker 1: Is that gonna show up in our look around the
Speaker 1: NFL next, it definitely is not showing up in the
Speaker 1: injury report. We'll give you some thoughts on what we
Speaker 1: saw at practice and what the injury report looks like,
Speaker 1: and some news from the NFL. Is Taylor Swift pregnant?
Speaker 1: Ask Mark Vandermier. No, we're just kidding, just kidding, just kidding.
Speaker 1: We got more next right here in Texans All Access.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go Wednesday night initiative, Texans All Access.
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, Football and outside of the
Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans, and we have reached that
Speaker 1: point in the program. On a Wednesday, we got to
Speaker 1: take a look at a god awful injury report.
Speaker 2: But I will say it's improving. It's not great, but
Speaker 2: it's improving a little bit. Texans only had.
Speaker 1: One DMP today, unfortunately, that is Jalen Smith, the rookie
Speaker 1: corner dealing with hamstring. Now, the fortunate part of that
Speaker 1: is we've seen guys on this report, mainly Jake Andrews,
Speaker 1: Braxton Barrios, Christian Kirk. They were all limited participants. Coach
Speaker 1: at the mike, I think it's press conference. A couple
Speaker 1: days ago, Tuesday. I'm trying to remember what day that was,
Speaker 1: probably Tuesday. Said that Kirk and Barrios were at least
Speaker 1: on track. Seeing Jake Andrews get back out, there was
Speaker 1: great news. Now will they play, don't know no idea
Speaker 1: about that, but they were limited.
Speaker 2: That was good news.
Speaker 1: Now, if there is any bad news, if you will,
Speaker 1: I mentioned Jalen Smith, the.
Speaker 2: DB's dealing with some things.
Speaker 1: Kamari Lasser was a limited participant dealing with the knee.
Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie went out of that game Monday for a
Speaker 1: little while deal with ribs, but he was able to
Speaker 1: come back in the game and play the rest of
Speaker 1: the game. Darryl Taylor with a hit. Those guys were
Speaker 1: all limited participants. During the viewing, we saw all those
Speaker 1: guys out there. So if there is some good news,
Speaker 1: there is a little good news with that, but no
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith at practice on Wednesday. On the other side,
Speaker 1: a couple to keep an eye on. First one is
Speaker 1: Ezra Cleveland, interior offensive lineman, dealing with the ankle. He
Speaker 1: did not participate. Hunter long tight end, very athletic tight end.
Speaker 1: Probably gonna fin Jacksonville, I think pretty well to be honest,
Speaker 1: he's dealing with an ankle. He did not participate limited participation.
Speaker 1: Jerry and Jones one of their corners that's want to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on limited participation back bay Shall Teuton
Speaker 1: shoulder now touton is a house of fire, Bud. He's
Speaker 1: dealing with a little bit of his shoulder issues. He's
Speaker 1: a limited participant as well full participants. About Terrek Brown
Speaker 1: and Brian Thomas Junior. Has been a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about Brian Thomas this week the game performance against Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and there was some that question whether Brian Thomas Junior
Speaker 1: was wanting to go across the middle. Liam Cohen did
Speaker 1: not shoot that down. After the game. There's been a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about, you know, hey, surrounding Brian and
Speaker 1: being you know, bring him up. I'll tell you this
Speaker 1: if there is if any of that is true about
Speaker 1: not wanting to go across the middle, not wanting to
Speaker 1: do those things.
Speaker 2: This defense that's in this building.
Speaker 1: Is not the one you want to see because they
Speaker 1: they could take swarm to a whole different level. But
Speaker 1: that is your injury report for Wednesday. Good news and
Speaker 1: Kirk Barriers Andrews Andrews being back. Hopefully we can keep
Speaker 1: Kamari and Jalen Darrow back on track and hopefully get
Speaker 1: Jalen back as well, and try and get this injury
Speaker 1: report back where we'd like it. All right, we got
Speaker 1: one our down, we got one our left to go,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna kick that off with Jacksonville native Texans
Speaker 1: wide receiver Xavier Hutchinson, who jumped in studio with Mark
Speaker 1: and I earlier today. We'll have that for you next
Speaker 1: the Texans All Access. We got one of our down,
Speaker 1: want our left to go? Right here on a Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Nation of Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio.
Speaker 2: I'm your hoach, John Harris, Football and a sideline reporter.
Speaker 1: Glad to be with you this evening, even more glad
Speaker 1: to be joined by our next guest, a Jacksonville native
Speaker 1: the Bartrip Trail High School, ended up going to Iowa
Speaker 1: State now and it's thirty year with the Texans and
Speaker 1: continuing to get better and be more of an impactful
Speaker 1: player on this offense.
Speaker 2: Xavier Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: We had a great, great time with X and I
Speaker 1: played a little game with X at the very end.
Speaker 2: You definitely want to stick around for that. Here's Xavier
Speaker 2: Hutchinson with me.
Speaker 3: And Mark with us in the Hunday Texans Radio studio.
Speaker 4: Xavier Hutchinson, X, great to see.
Speaker 7: How's it going, Yes, sir, I'm doing good, man, I'm
Speaker 7: doing good. Can't complain it all.
Speaker 3: All right, So it's week three. We're going to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about what's happened so far. But you got
Speaker 3: to be excited you're going home to play a pro
Speaker 3: football game.
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, definitely excited. I mean, who ever thought, right?
Speaker 7: You know, since I was you know, a child, man
Speaker 7: dreams of playing in the Jackson Stadium and now you
Speaker 7: know I get to go against him. Is great?
Speaker 2: So old I am.
Speaker 1: His school didn't even exist until my last year of
Speaker 1: coaching Aaron Jackson though, Marcham Trail. Yeah, and I remember
Speaker 1: we always used to say, man, if they can get
Speaker 1: some if they can get some schools down Saint John's County, WI,
Speaker 1: because all the time was Nice. Nice was the only
Speaker 1: one and the most famous graduate from Nice High School
Speaker 1: is Tim Yeah, all the way down in St. John's County.
Speaker 1: In fact, he actually lived on the west side. But
Speaker 1: it's home school formers. Yeah exactly. X. How's how's your
Speaker 1: game coming together. Third year slowing down for you at all?
Speaker 4: On the field?
Speaker 1: Are you seeing things better earlier, quicker all that because
Speaker 1: of your experience.
Speaker 7: I definitely think so. It's definitely slowing down for me.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm just actually out there playing with confidence
Speaker 7: and really just you know, trying to make the plays
Speaker 7: whenever they come to me. And you know, I've been
Speaker 7: able to so far. So I just got to keep
Speaker 7: it going and be consistent. But I'm really happy with
Speaker 7: how you know, my first two games have went.
Speaker 3: Ye, what's practice like this time of year for you?
Speaker 3: Because we see in training camp it's ones against ones
Speaker 3: and a lot of matching up against the dbs that
Speaker 3: are going to start the game for the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3: Very physical. How physical is it this time of year
Speaker 3: now that you're in the regular season and you're going
Speaker 3: up against the look team and things like that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's definitely still competitive out there. You know, obviously
Speaker 7: they probably you know, laid back a few when you
Speaker 7: know the ball's up in the air or you know
Speaker 7: it's like a you know, a fifty to fifty ball,
Speaker 7: but when it comes, you know, like any intermediate wrestler,
Speaker 7: you know they're on your back and you got to
Speaker 7: make a contest to catch.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: I think that's one of the reasons why you know,
Speaker 7: our receivers has done so well, uh in years past,
Speaker 7: is because how are we practice and how you know,
Speaker 7: good the practice squad gives us.
Speaker 1: Looks EXIT was watching a game back last night. I
Speaker 1: want to once you walk me through if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: you're running around. I think you're going from right from
Speaker 1: their sideline to our sideline. But it looked like you
Speaker 1: were running a route in the middle. But then as
Speaker 1: you looked in the middle, you kind of just kept
Speaker 1: going and CJ it was almost like CJ was giving you, like,
Speaker 1: keep going without pointing at you. Can you take us
Speaker 1: through that that reception kind of what your responsibility was,
Speaker 1: where you're supposed to go to, and how you guys
Speaker 1: linked up to make that reception.
Speaker 7: Yeah, actually I probably should have just kept it on
Speaker 7: the outside of the defender. I should have never dived
Speaker 7: in as far as I did. Yeah. Uh so they
Speaker 7: got me there, but uh once, you know, once I
Speaker 7: dived in and he just shoved me and kind of
Speaker 7: I saw that the middle was collapsed. Uh you know,
Speaker 7: you can just feel you know grass, Yeah, you can
Speaker 7: just feel an open area and seven, you know, thought
Speaker 7: the same thing, and really you know, just ran to
Speaker 7: the open grass uh in seventh place to you know,
Speaker 7: a great ball and you know we were able to
Speaker 7: get a little nice little explose.
Speaker 3: How much does that go on when you're supposed to
Speaker 3: run this route but clearly you got to make an
Speaker 3: adjustment like you did in the playoff game, a heck
Speaker 3: of an adjustment. How does that go down for you
Speaker 3: X when you're looking back into the backfield or how
Speaker 3: does that awareness play out?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Uh, you know, I think some of it, you know,
Speaker 7: it's just like a feel thing sometimes having you know
Speaker 7: the same connection and communication you know, or I already
Speaker 7: have like seeing it beforehand if a play breaks down.
Speaker 7: But some of it's really just like you know, just
Speaker 7: really scramble drill some of it. You know, once you
Speaker 7: kind of you know, realize that your eternal clock has
Speaker 7: gone off in your head, you kind of you know,
Speaker 7: look back and you see maybe CJ running or maybe
Speaker 7: you see seven just standing in the pocket. You know,
Speaker 7: it's kind of you know, we have you know, our
Speaker 7: routine drills that we do really just kind of make
Speaker 7: it happen.
Speaker 2: You have played every wide receiver position on the field.
Speaker 1: And I've said this to Mark, I've said it a
Speaker 1: few times X the fact that at practice, even training
Speaker 1: can't practice. I always see you a sprint your position,
Speaker 1: but then you help everybody else get lined up. And
Speaker 1: I always say that because it's like, man, these receivers
Speaker 1: maybe not know what to do, but then they go
Speaker 1: to your side. You're like, no, no, you're you're off
Speaker 1: the ball, you're on the ball. No, you're here, you're wider.
Speaker 1: Where where does that come from?
Speaker 6: Max?
Speaker 1: That you you kind of know each and every wide
Speaker 1: receiver position like the back of your hand, that you
Speaker 1: can help everybody else out there.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Uh, it took me a while to get there.
Speaker 7: I had some struggles in you know, my like my
Speaker 7: first really my really my first year rookie year, like
Speaker 7: just learning you know, the formations and everything. Second year
Speaker 7: kind of slowly started to click for me. And then
Speaker 7: this thirty year just like like I said, just really
Speaker 7: confidence and you know and just knowing everything and not
Speaker 7: second guessing myself. And really it just kind of you know,
Speaker 7: Ben kind of you know, cous McDaniels, really, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: you really tests me on knowing the positions. So you know,
Speaker 7: I give a lot of credit to him on you know,
Speaker 7: you know, forcing me to you know, put my head
Speaker 7: in the playbook and understand you know, the concepts and
Speaker 7: our formations.
Speaker 3: Yep, Demiko Ryan says, the offense is really close, really
Speaker 3: close to breaking through. Obviously got it to the end
Speaker 3: zone a couple of times on Monday night that was
Speaker 3: much better than the game before. Looking for another step forward,
Speaker 3: How close are you? How do you feel in that
Speaker 3: department you're closer to getting to where you want to be.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we are. I mean I think you know,
Speaker 7: Demico hit it on the head. To be honest with you,
Speaker 7: We're very close. You know, it's just the minor things
Speaker 7: right now that we have to fix, you know, really
Speaker 7: just you know, trusting it in everybody, you know, trust
Speaker 7: every play and really just executing all the details and
Speaker 7: you know, understanding that. You know, if we just do
Speaker 7: these one little thing that we missed, you know, it's
Speaker 7: probably a different ball gaming. As you know, it's a
Speaker 7: different outcome on the play.
Speaker 1: You've got a couple of cyclone brethren in this, uh,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure nobody out there knew that every time
Speaker 1: we talked about the receivers this year. We're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well it's gonna be Christian and it's gonna be Nico
Speaker 1: and the Cyclones. We always kind of talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: the three of you. How do you think the two
Speaker 1: rookies have done Jed Uh, Jayala Nolan, jene Haiggins great.
Speaker 7: I think they've done great.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: And you really just seen them progress, you know, from
Speaker 7: training camp all the way until now.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: And you know it, everyone's time is different. Everyone's gonna
Speaker 7: grasp things a little bit different, maybe faster or slower.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: And you know, in their case, I think they're grasping
Speaker 7: things very fast, and I think they're playing with confidence.
Speaker 7: And you know, I think that's the number one thing
Speaker 7: that you have to do as a rookie. You you
Speaker 7: just have to go out there and play with confidence.
Speaker 7: You know, you might make mistakes, nobody's perfect, but you know,
Speaker 7: as long as you just go out there, play fast
Speaker 7: and play with confidence, man, it's all going to figure
Speaker 7: yourself out.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's do a little Iowa State commercial here here,
Speaker 3: because Matt Campbell has a heck of a program and
Speaker 3: in an era where a lot of people thought maybe
Speaker 3: he would go somewhere else, he stays there. Jalen talked
Speaker 3: about how important that was to him. What about you,
Speaker 3: What does it mean to you that he's still there
Speaker 3: and the Cyclones to do it so well?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean Coach Campbell was just a man of
Speaker 7: his word. And you know, we have like a saying
Speaker 7: in the Iowa stay you know, it's a forever, forever loyal, okay,
Speaker 7: ever true, and I think you know he he embodies
Speaker 7: that statement. And man, I'm just so happy for Coach
Speaker 7: Campbell to have you know, that that success. Now, even
Speaker 7: you know, with me being gone, you know, I'm still
Speaker 7: happy to see all of the players there that you know,
Speaker 7: are reaping the rewards of you know what other people
Speaker 7: had to you know, lay down and you know, build
Speaker 7: the foundation for for that program. So to see it,
Speaker 7: you know, come to Fruition and still you know, not
Speaker 7: even at the top of it yet it's great.
Speaker 1: It's great to see he loves you, man, I mean
Speaker 1: there's no doubt like when I well, I went to
Speaker 1: Big twel media days and I saw the SID and
Speaker 1: I just said, hey, you think Coach Campbell would talk
Speaker 1: to me a couple of minutes about X and just
Speaker 1: kind of give us a background on it, and he goes,
Speaker 1: oh absolutely. I was like, just let him do with
Speaker 1: media scrum And we talked for two minutes on air,
Speaker 1: and then he went for like ten minutes asking how
Speaker 1: you were doing, telling you that you know how much
Speaker 1: you got. I mean to have a coach that you know,
Speaker 1: cares that much, I gotta imagine that means a lot
Speaker 1: to the Iowa State guys as well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it definitely does, man. And it just you know,
Speaker 7: he always like said that, you know, it's bigger than
Speaker 7: football with him. Yeah, and you know, like that little
Speaker 7: instant right there proves it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 7: So like it's just it's so much left for coach
Speaker 7: Campbell with so much respect for the man he is
Speaker 7: the coach he is, and like just to know that
Speaker 7: I always have him in, you know, in my corner
Speaker 7: and he's always rooting for me. You know, it makes
Speaker 7: a difference in somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna move on from the Iowa State commercial
Speaker 3: to the Jacksonville commercial as an area, not the Jaguars,
Speaker 3: but just as a place to be a place to live,
Speaker 3: a place to grow up.
Speaker 4: What about Jacksonville? What makes it good?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, you know you can really get into
Speaker 7: anything you like.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 7: Obviously you can go to Jacksonville downtown Jacksonville. Uh, you know,
Speaker 7: they'd be having a little farmers markets there and stuff. Obviously.
Speaker 7: You know Florida we have beaches, yeah, uh plus yep, yep.
Speaker 7: And then you got like, you know the little beach
Speaker 7: restaurants that are on the side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's an Atlantic beach a lot.
Speaker 1: There's that corner and I don't know what it is
Speaker 1: a long time ago, they used to have like they
Speaker 1: had a sun dog that had pete and then they
Speaker 1: had rag Time, which is a great rush, like right
Speaker 1: there on the beach and you walk out and you're
Speaker 1: right at the You've.
Speaker 3: Never been to these places. You never take me anywhere,
Speaker 3: but we go. There a few close down oat.
Speaker 7: You want to go, If you do want to go,
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure it's on the Flaggler a one a side.
Speaker 7: It's a burrito works. It's probably one of the best
Speaker 7: at the UFO.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you fish like the other cyclones? No, So you're
Speaker 3: not gonna get involved with that composition.
Speaker 7: No, No, not at all.
Speaker 1: But you know what he does do on Fieldhouse. You
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 2: Let's put you. Okay, So they did this great thing.
Speaker 1: Now it was you and I can't remember who who
Speaker 1: you were doing it with, and I think you did NFL.
Speaker 1: And they gave like a fantasy team rosters, a quarterback,
Speaker 1: running back, two wide receivers, a tight end, and.
Speaker 4: A current or all time.
Speaker 2: It was all time, I think.
Speaker 1: And so they spin the spin the dial and then
Speaker 1: he would have to pay, okay, like Cowboys, and okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take running back Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 2: And so you build build your team that way. So
Speaker 2: all right, how much do you know college football? You
Speaker 2: know pretty well? Yea, all right, here we go history
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: Got a quarterback, a running back, a wide receiver to flex,
Speaker 1: put anybody in a flex you want, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: So you pick it. We're gonna start with Mark.
Speaker 1: Mark used to be the play by play man for
Speaker 1: the Miami Hurricanes. Give me your best Hurricane, and where you
Speaker 1: want to put him?
Speaker 3: Andre Johnson, just do it.
Speaker 7: Definitely Andre Johnson at the receiver spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, Andre Johnson. Okay, Now Will's over there.
Speaker 7: He's a big or guy, Oregon guy.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you have quarterback, running back or flex.
Speaker 7: Give me, uh, give me the Anthony.
Speaker 2: Uh Antony Thomas Thomas. Put him at the We'll put
Speaker 2: at the flex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll put him at the Now we are in Houston,
Speaker 1: but we have three Iowa State cyclones, so we have
Speaker 1: quarterback and running back left.
Speaker 2: So give me your Iowa state cyclone you want to
Speaker 2: put in here?
Speaker 7: You know what, I'm actually gonna throw it like really
Speaker 7: far back. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give a shout
Speaker 7: out to Troy Davis.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a great one.
Speaker 2: Troy Davis is a good one.
Speaker 4: That's reaching back.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now we're in the state of Texas.
Speaker 1: Any state university Texas State University for your quarterback, so
Speaker 1: that's a and M Texas, Houston, Baylor, any State of
Speaker 1: Texas quarterback you want to.
Speaker 7: Put in and he's gonna be like so like who
Speaker 7: you want.
Speaker 4: It can't be Drew Brees who played at Purdue.
Speaker 2: No, he's got to be who played at Texas University,
Speaker 2: Vince Young, I mean man Johnny manziel On.
Speaker 7: Where there's a lot of good ones and I'm not
Speaker 7: even gonna lie to I'm thinking about a few right now.
Speaker 7: Almost feel disrespectful. Not to go. Vince Young.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's a Houston guy. Houston guy and University
Speaker 3: of Texas. All right, Andre will get over it. That
Speaker 3: was a long time ago.
Speaker 1: Vince Young, Troy Davis, Andre Johnson, the Anthony Thomas see, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, very good, very well.
Speaker 4: Nice.
Speaker 2: I sprung that on you, so having to do that,
Speaker 2: it's pretty tough.
Speaker 7: So you definitely I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: You know, if you did that that well, I figured
Speaker 2: you do this well.
Speaker 4: Very nice.
Speaker 3: Xavier Hutchinson joining us, Thanks to left for being with us.
Speaker 3: Good luck this week.
Speaker 7: So I appreciate you. How man, Thank.
Speaker 2: You appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Young dude.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: He has some great things for this team, special teams,
Speaker 1: wide receiver all over the field. Hopefully he will do
Speaker 1: some of those in front of friends and family on
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Jags, it's side for a man behind
Speaker 2: the MICUs.
Speaker 1: That's when Mark Vandermier, the voice of the Texans, sits
Speaker 1: down with a voice on the other side. It's one
Speaker 1: we know very very well, good friend of mine. Since
Speaker 1: the early nineties. He is the voice of the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Frank Frjie joins Mark Vaneruin next right here on Texans
Speaker 1: All Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday Nation of Texans
Speaker 1: All Access from the hun Day Texans Radio Studio. Appreciate
Speaker 1: Xavier Hutchinson for stepping in studio today. I had a great,
Speaker 1: great time talk with that young man. I was state
Speaker 1: cyclone Bartram trail Bear. I think, like I told him
Speaker 1: in the interview, his school opened my last year in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and we knew they were gonna be good. And they've
Speaker 1: spit out some really good players and some great athletes,
Speaker 1: great people like Xavier Hutchinson. Now, a guy that has
Speaker 1: been there for a long time, grew up there is
Speaker 1: the face of Jacksonville media. I mean he was the
Speaker 1: guy when I lived there back in the nineties early
Speaker 1: two thousands.
Speaker 2: If I ever need anything, I went to Frank Frangie.
Speaker 2: Great media.
Speaker 1: I don't say for that's the wrong word to use,
Speaker 1: but when you say Jacksonville media, Frank Fraanjie is a
Speaker 1: name that comes to mind and just a salt of
Speaker 1: the earth person has been doing it for a very
Speaker 1: long time. Became the voice of the Jags back at
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: I believe.
Speaker 1: I think it was the first year he took over
Speaker 1: as the voice of the Jaguars as I took over
Speaker 1: as a silent reporter for the Texans.
Speaker 2: So this is always kind of a weird one in
Speaker 2: that too.
Speaker 1: My very good friend Mark vandermir with Frank Franjie, guy
Speaker 1: I've known for very a very long time, sat down
Speaker 1: discussed this matchup that will take place Sunday in Duval County.
Speaker 3: Joining us now in Texans Radio. It's Frank Frangie, friend
Speaker 3: of the show, Frank the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Frank, how's it going with my friend Mark?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well. How are you? How are things in
Speaker 6: Houston these days?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, zero and two it's not that good, Frank,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you.
Speaker 4: So we're looking forward to this one.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if we should be looking forward
Speaker 3: to it because the Jags look a whole lot better
Speaker 3: And even though one and one and I know, very
Speaker 3: disappointing against the Bengals, you got to think they are
Speaker 3: better overall.
Speaker 4: Right, I don't think.
Speaker 6: There's any question. I think that one was as gut
Speaker 6: wrenching Mark as any because the Jags out played the Bengals,
Speaker 6: and you know me well enough to know that I
Speaker 6: wouldn't say that if it wasn't the case. The Bengals
Speaker 6: took their first lead in the game with eighteen seconds
Speaker 6: to play in the game. The Jags led the entire game.
Speaker 6: Burrow was out. The Jags just couldn't finish the job. Dropped,
Speaker 6: a few passes, dropped the touchdown, had a tough pass
Speaker 6: interference go against them on four and ten, and it
Speaker 6: was just one of those games. But the Jags still
Speaker 6: that they should be two to zero. They're better again,
Speaker 6: I've said that before around here, and we'll see. But
Speaker 6: I feel better about this group, how they're all sort
Speaker 6: of pulling in the same direction, the plan they seem
Speaker 6: to have. I do believe markets can improve Jacksonville team.
Speaker 6: I really do.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to start with Trevor Lawrence. I'm going
Speaker 3: to start with Travis Etn because it's highly noticeable how
Speaker 3: he's really erupted. In the early going this season, Frank
Speaker 3: and a lot of people thought, well, Bigsby's probably going
Speaker 3: to be the guy. Now you might have thought differently,
Speaker 3: but it seems like Etn has hit a stride finally,
Speaker 3: has he finally come into his own or is this
Speaker 3: a renaissance?
Speaker 4: How do you define it?
Speaker 6: Well, too, that's a big storyline. Mark, You're exactly right.
Speaker 6: Two pieces to that story. Number one. Yeah, everybody had
Speaker 6: Etn run out of town. They thought Tank basically would
Speaker 6: be the more, the better downhill runner. Then they drafted
Speaker 6: two guys. They drafted Base Shall two and a really
Speaker 6: good player out of Virginia Tech and lecquinn Allen out
Speaker 6: of Serious, both of whom made the team and both
Speaker 6: of whom are going to play. So you had four
Speaker 6: guys in your running back room and everybody just assumed
Speaker 6: that the Etn would be the guy, the odd man out. Well,
Speaker 6: say what happened? Etn took that seriously. Travis Etn came
Speaker 6: into the best shape of his life. He's the first
Speaker 6: round draft pick. He played like it. He had a
Speaker 6: great camp, he won the starting job, and he was
Speaker 6: very good in that first game, and all of a
Speaker 6: sudden he's running back one and Tank basically gets traded
Speaker 6: out of town. So Tank gets traded, you have room
Speaker 6: for four guys. He wanted to keep the two rookies.
Speaker 6: So number one, to your point, Travis Etn did a
Speaker 6: great job. The other part of that story, Mark is
Speaker 6: they want to run the ball. You know, a lot
Speaker 6: coaches say we're going to run the ball, but they
Speaker 6: don't really run the ball. Right, this group said they
Speaker 6: want to run the ball. Liam Cohen said it from
Speaker 6: day one. You know, you and I have done this
Speaker 6: long enough. Everybody can run around first and ten. If
Speaker 6: you run it again on second and nine, that means
Speaker 6: you're committed to running it. And I think that's what
Speaker 6: this group is. The two storylines. Travis came in great shape,
Speaker 6: won the job, looks great and this offense under Liam
Speaker 6: Cohen looks like it's committed to running the football. And
Speaker 6: that's what we've seen.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Trevor Lawrence, so far, what are you thinking here?
Speaker 3: Of the progress?
Speaker 6: I see progress. He's made a few mistakes he can't make,
Speaker 6: but I think he's played better. He's threw three touchdowns
Speaker 6: last week and he had I don't know if you
Speaker 6: saw Dianmi Brown dropped on right in the end. Okay,
Speaker 6: just a flat out drop which would have been the
Speaker 6: fourth touchdown path Brian Thomas Jr. On fourth down and
Speaker 6: five at the end of the game, just flat out
Speaker 6: dropped the ball the five yard line. There are around
Speaker 6: the four yard line would have been a first down.
Speaker 6: So the drops really hurt him. But Trevor's growing up. Mark.
Speaker 6: You can sense it, you can see it, you can
Speaker 6: seal it. He likes this offense. He thinks he's committed
Speaker 6: to it. It's a play action offense. It starts with
Speaker 6: the running games. And he's played better. Again's on him
Speaker 6: in two games, right, so it's hard to learn too
Speaker 6: much or determine too much up to two games. But
Speaker 6: he's played pretty well and he looks comfortable. He looks
Speaker 6: I've called every game he's ever played. He looks comfortable,
Speaker 6: as comfortable as I've seen him look.
Speaker 3: Frank Nick Cassario told us he thinks Seric Murray's doing
Speaker 3: pretty well for the Jaguars. Might be a bit of
Speaker 3: a difference maker. Not like he's going to the Pro
Speaker 3: Bowl or anything, but he's as steady as she goes.
Speaker 3: Kind of guy at safety, a veteran who can make
Speaker 3: things happen.
Speaker 4: How to pick last week? What about Murray for that defense?
Speaker 6: He's been very good. The first week he made a
Speaker 6: diving deflection, I mean a terrific play, and then Foyer
Speaker 6: Luka dove and picked the ball off. So Eric really
Speaker 6: caused that play and then he intercepted the pass last week.
Speaker 6: So who really he's credited with two He should be
Speaker 6: credited with two interceptions, right, there's not a football doesn't
Speaker 6: have an assist for an interception, right, But he made
Speaker 6: the one interception happen the week with the first week
Speaker 6: and then second week, he's played well, Mark, he knows
Speaker 6: they needed better. The two veteran secondary guys that they
Speaker 6: brought in, Eric Murray from Houston and Jordan Lewis from Dallas,
Speaker 6: they know how to play. Eric Murray's been very good.
Speaker 6: They need. You need guys in the secondary in today's
Speaker 6: day and age is the passing games the way they
Speaker 6: are that know how to play. Eric's gonna be a
Speaker 6: good Jaguary. He's really going to help the cause here.
Speaker 6: There's no doubt in my mind. So I think NX
Speaker 6: reid on that is one hundred percent right. I think
Speaker 6: he's played very well.
Speaker 3: Frank, what about the guys up front? Everybody raves about
Speaker 3: heinz Allen and Walker another sack last week. He's really
Speaker 3: started to produce in the sack category, which got him
Speaker 3: a lot of notice last year. Tell me about them,
Speaker 3: Tell me about that front.
Speaker 6: The ends are good. The ends have played well. Josh
Speaker 6: Heines Allen gets a lot of attention. He gets chipped
Speaker 6: a lot. He gets chipped like one of the good
Speaker 6: pass rushers in the league. And you know this because
Speaker 6: you've got two very good ones. But he gets chipped
Speaker 6: a lot. Mark, he gets double teamed in the tight end,
Speaker 6: stays in. But he's played well. Trayvon was fantastic class
Speaker 6: with hadda sack and was very very disruptive. So those
Speaker 6: two ends are a very good, very good player. Dwan
Speaker 6: Smooth comes off the bench and is a very good
Speaker 6: third end. So they are very good. In the tackles.
Speaker 6: How they need to play better. The tackles have been okay.
Speaker 6: That was one position going into the season that they
Speaker 6: were concerned about is with the tackles held up. Eric
Speaker 6: Armstead played better last week, the veteran Devon Hamilton. The
Speaker 6: nose guard is up and down, and they've got some
Speaker 6: young tackles behind those guys. So I think the tackles
Speaker 6: that's going to be the question. The interior of that,
Speaker 6: the defensive line mark will be the question with this
Speaker 6: football team. The ends, as you know are very good
Speaker 6: even the backup end and Duwan Smooth is very good.
Speaker 6: The tackles have to play well. That was a big question. Also,
Speaker 6: Cam is how the Jags weren't physical enough? Man, They
Speaker 6: have to be more physical. It's a point of impact
Speaker 6: and it looks like they've made incremental strides there. It
Speaker 6: really does.
Speaker 3: Frank, I'm going to ask your assessment of a Texans player,
Speaker 3: Frank Franchie, Voice of the Jaguars with us Christian Kirk,
Speaker 3: when he does get out on the field eventually, what
Speaker 3: kind of difference can he make for the Houston Texans?
Speaker 4: What do you think they get with Kirk?
Speaker 6: He was a gigantic difference maker here, great guy in
Speaker 6: the locker, he got the Good Guy Award for the
Speaker 6: easiest guy to deal with. Terrific player, a slot receiver.
Speaker 6: Hey story. He came here three years ago and they
Speaker 6: won the division, won a playoff game, lost to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Made sort of the elite eight of the league. Right
Speaker 6: and in his first year. The next year they start
Speaker 6: eight and three. Mark, they start eight and three, they're
Speaker 6: playing Cincinnati. Looked like they're going to ease into a
Speaker 6: back to back division title. Christian got hurt in that
Speaker 6: game against Cincinnati. He got hurt for the year, they
Speaker 6: lost him for the year. They lost that game, and
Speaker 6: that was one of five out of six they lost,
Speaker 6: missed the playoffs, and then last year never refounded. So
Speaker 6: the collapse of the Jaguars under Doug Peterson that looks
Speaker 6: so good in the middle of his tenure here started
Speaker 6: when Christian Kirk got hurt. I'm telling you it started
Speaker 6: when he got hurt. Now I'm not saying that's all
Speaker 6: that happened, but that was a big blow. He's a leader,
Speaker 6: he catches everything. He's a slot guy. He's not on
Speaker 6: an outside guy's going to run by people. He's a pro.
Speaker 6: Christian Kirk is You're gonna love Christian Kirk. He probably
Speaker 6: already met him, right, I'm sure you've been around it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: fans are gonna love it. Mark. He is a pro,
Speaker 6: the pros pro. And I think that's a great gift
Speaker 6: for the Houston Texans. I really do.
Speaker 4: Now, great interview.
Speaker 3: I talked to him right after joint practice with the Lions,
Speaker 3: and then he didn't play in that final preseason game.
Speaker 3: Then he hurts his hamstring right before the opener at
Speaker 3: some point, and absolutely need him on the field. Frank,
Speaker 3: what's the vibe like in Jacksonville right now going into
Speaker 3: this game Jags and Texans. We meet again in the
Speaker 3: AFC South. Here we go, we have some time before
Speaker 3: the game. But what is the feeling in North Florida
Speaker 3: about this one?
Speaker 6: Well, that's a great question. There's a lot of storylines
Speaker 6: here all right in the fan base. Number one, forget
Speaker 6: the Texans for a second. The fans want to believe
Speaker 6: this is real, you know what I mean, Mark. They
Speaker 6: want to believe that the Jags are improved, that it's
Speaker 6: not the same old Samuel Jags fans really want to
Speaker 6: Like all fans, all fans want to believe that right
Speaker 6: when you turn the corner, because you guys have done
Speaker 6: in recent years. Fans want to believe it's real. So
Speaker 6: I think there's some belief it might be real. I
Speaker 6: think there's certainly some sign there's some evidence out there,
Speaker 6: but you and you've got to make yourself believe it's real.
Speaker 6: So I think there's there's there's some hesitation, but I
Speaker 6: think there's some cautious optimism. The Texans game is gigantic.
Speaker 6: Houston's won ten of the last eleven times they've been
Speaker 6: in this stadium. That's hard to believe than an opponent
Speaker 6: had been ten out of eleven times in this stadium.
Speaker 6: If they ask has had their way with Jackson, we
Speaker 6: all know that your team has had their way with
Speaker 6: a jack And look, the team isn't talking about it,
Speaker 6: and I've plawed them not but the but the big
Speaker 6: hit on Trevor Lawrence that knocked him out for the
Speaker 6: season is still something everybody in the fan base is
Speaker 6: talking about. That. To suggest that that story went away
Speaker 6: is inaccurate the story at least, and again, the team
Speaker 6: has been very careful to teach that we're not worried
Speaker 6: about anything happened last year. We're trying to get ready
Speaker 6: for this year. But I can promise you in the
Speaker 6: fan base, that hit on Trevor Lawrence is still being
Speaker 6: talked about. So for that reason, it's it's got a
Speaker 6: lot of storylines. Here's the other storyline. The Texans, who
Speaker 6: have been the Krem de la Krem of the division,
Speaker 6: are looking at O with three if they lose the game.
Speaker 6: I know you've been talking about that. So it's a
Speaker 6: gigantic game. A sense of urgency for the Texans and
Speaker 6: the Jags have a chance to start two to one
Speaker 6: for the first time in the long time, you know,
Speaker 6: last the Jags have not been two and oh since
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen mark, and they're not again this year too.
Speaker 6: So it's a big game on so many fronts, and
Speaker 6: I don't think that's been lost here. I think the
Speaker 6: fan base certainly is talking about that.
Speaker 3: Well, we have this next thing in common concern that
Speaker 3: the Colts are jumping off to a two and oho start.
Speaker 4: They look pretty good. What are your thoughts on the horseshoe?
Speaker 6: They do look good. I think they The Colts have
Speaker 6: played so many different quarterbacks. For all everything Andrew Luck
Speaker 6: was gone, They've played every quarterback in the league. I
Speaker 6: think's made his way to Indianapolis. They made the right
Speaker 6: decision with Daniel Jones to go get him, to have
Speaker 6: him compete with Antheya Richardson, and to have him beat
Speaker 6: him out. They were very good in the first week.
Speaker 6: Last week was weird. I don't know that I've seen
Speaker 6: a game end like that, Mark that the guy misses
Speaker 6: the kick and the Broncos win on the with no
Speaker 6: time left on the clock. But then they get caught
Speaker 6: and you know what, happened, they get called for the
Speaker 6: leverage penalty, and the Colts get another chance and they
Speaker 6: make it. I think the culture leaks to your question, though,
Speaker 6: I think the culture legit. I think the Titans are
Speaker 6: a little behind, but I think the other three teams
Speaker 6: in this division are all pretty good and are all
Speaker 6: pretty close. Do you see it that way? I think
Speaker 6: those three teams are somewhat even. I think it's going
Speaker 6: to be and again I'm not trying to write off
Speaker 6: the Titans yet, but I think they're a little further behind.
Speaker 6: They've got a first year quarterbacks. But I think the
Speaker 6: other three teams, I think it's going to be a
Speaker 6: heck of about. It starts this week obviously that our
Speaker 6: two teams, but I think it's going to be a
Speaker 6: heck of a battle in the division. That's how I
Speaker 6: see those top three teams.
Speaker 3: I think it is close. I think I knew the
Speaker 3: Texans were going to have it tough with these two
Speaker 3: teams to open up the season with at the Rams
Speaker 3: and home against the Buccaneers, and it was even tougher
Speaker 3: than I thought. But they're close losses one point five points,
Speaker 3: but you know, they don't give you anything in this league.
Speaker 3: For that, I think a lot of the league is
Speaker 3: like that, with these one score games, so not much
Speaker 3: you can do anything else jumping out to you about
Speaker 3: the AFC. Maybe Chiefs so and two the Bills start.
Speaker 3: Anything else, Frank, that is notable to you about the
Speaker 3: AFC or the NFL at large.
Speaker 6: I think AFC the one thing that grabbed me other
Speaker 6: than the normal. So the Chiefs are going to be fine.
Speaker 6: The Chiefs have a good team. We all know the
Speaker 6: Chiefs are. If they're not going to be there in
Speaker 6: the end, they're going to be close. The Ravens are
Speaker 6: really good. The Bills are emerging. This might be the
Speaker 6: year of the Bills. The one thing that jumped off
Speaker 6: the chart for me or off the page for me, Marcus,
Speaker 6: I think the Chargers might be legit. He's a really
Speaker 6: good coach. He won a national championship in college. He's
Speaker 6: been to a Super Bowl. He's tough. I know a player,
Speaker 6: I personally know a guy that played for him to
Speaker 6: chart with his Chargers team, and he said, you can't
Speaker 6: imagine how physical the practices are, how they bumped right
Speaker 6: up against the edge of what's allowed. And when he
Speaker 6: makes them tougher, he makes him a running team that
Speaker 6: makes Justin Herbert better. It's clear Justin Herbert is developing.
Speaker 6: So if there's one thing about the AFC more than
Speaker 6: anything else that's grabbed me as no, boy, the Chargers,
Speaker 6: which have been they've been a tease right for the
Speaker 6: last handful of years. Everything is Justin Herbert got there.
Speaker 6: They looked like they were they could be the teams
Speaker 6: that emerges, but they never do. Boy, I think they
Speaker 6: might be year. I'm very impressed with the La Chargers.
Speaker 6: I think that's probably first and foremost for me of
Speaker 6: things in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Frank Frazie, Voice of the Jaguars with us a couple
Speaker 3: of quick ones on the way out here. Frank, I
Speaker 3: know you do the talk show. You talk a lot
Speaker 3: of college football. The Gators are going to be at
Speaker 3: Mike Canes this weekend. Thoughts on this matchup, the rise
Speaker 3: of the Hurricanes is at real, and what is going
Speaker 3: on with the Gators in general?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, the Mark vandermir Kaines are good. Okay,
Speaker 6: they're I mean they're like legit, legit. Carson Beck who's
Speaker 6: the jack and guy and no Carson I know his family.
Speaker 6: He's good.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's worth all those millions they paid him
Speaker 6: to come down there, and I think that I think
Speaker 6: they're more physical than they've been. This looks to me
Speaker 6: like the best Miami team since early two thousand and
Speaker 6: We'll see if it plays out that way. Last year
Speaker 6: they were great on offense, that's flawed on defense. You
Speaker 6: and I know you know this because you follow them.
Speaker 6: They've had two ten wins seasons in twenty five years.
Speaker 6: I mean there are twenty four years. Ever since the
Speaker 6: two thousand and two teams. They haven't been a great
Speaker 6: elite team. I think they might be now. The Gators
Speaker 6: are a mess. DJ Lagway is as they're going to
Speaker 6: fire the coach. I think. I think Miami beats them
Speaker 6: by double digits. They start one to three, they get
Speaker 6: an awful then they get Texas in that here's what
Speaker 6: they get next, Texas, and then at A and M
Speaker 6: and then after that they get Georgia. So it's going
Speaker 6: to be a disastrous season for the Gators, which is
Speaker 6: a surprise. I thought they'd be better than that. But
Speaker 6: Miami's pretty good. Mark, you'd be proud of your canes
Speaker 6: down here there. They're legit, legit, They really.
Speaker 4: Are thoughts off Florida State.
Speaker 6: You know what a crazy turn. They're really good. Two
Speaker 6: years in a row they went third. They go thirteen
Speaker 6: to others and the quarterback gets third and then everybody
Speaker 6: could sloop them. Last year, they're a disaster. They're two
Speaker 6: and ten, one of the worst teams in the country.
Speaker 6: I give him credit. He fired his offensive coordinator, fired
Speaker 6: his defensive coordinator, fired half his coach, and ran off
Speaker 6: hafits players. They went and got twenty some players in
Speaker 6: the portal, Gus Miles on to run the offense, Tony
Speaker 6: White to run the defense. All of a sudden, they're
Speaker 6: good again. Do you realize this? Do you really think
Speaker 6: about this? Of their twenty two starting players, that's the
Speaker 6: twenty two players that started the Florida the start of
Speaker 6: the Alabama game seventeen did not to start their careers
Speaker 6: at Florida State. Now, I want you to think about
Speaker 6: that for a second. Mark, Well, the twenty two players
Speaker 6: that started that game against Alabama seventeen began their college
Speaker 6: careers at another university. Isn't that amazing the world we're
Speaker 6: in now? But that's what these guys do. They go
Speaker 6: out and get Remember these portal guys are twenty two
Speaker 6: and twenty three years old. So these twenty two year
Speaker 6: olds are playing against high school, college freshman and sophomoorrees
Speaker 6: and that's many difference. I think. I think they're pretty good.
Speaker 6: And the schedule softens up on October fourth, it's Miami
Speaker 6: and FSU. It might be like the old age, it
Speaker 6: might be a really good Miami.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's seventeen new guys shows me that
Speaker 3: foot locker is open for business in Tallahasse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, Frank, I love that. Thanks so much that along.
Speaker 6: Ah, My tell a man, friends don't appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, pass that along your program. All right,
Speaker 3: look forward to seeing you on Sunday, my friend, thanks
Speaker 3: a lot for the time.
Speaker 6: Okay, Mark, good to catch that.
Speaker 1: Tak care Okay, So Frank Sigator and Mark Sekine. So
Speaker 1: if they're going to take shots, it's gonna be at
Speaker 1: Florida State. Although Gators and Canes they don't get along.
Speaker 1: You'll see that this weekend. They do not get along.
Speaker 1: Goes back to the seventies thing they got all. There's
Speaker 1: respect with Florida State, Miami, there's respect with FORLID State Florida.
Speaker 1: There is hatred between Miami and Florida, unless well, Frank
Speaker 1: and Mark get together. Now markedn go to Miami, but
Speaker 1: he definitely bleeds Kynes because of his time there calling
Speaker 1: games back in the late nineteen nineties in the early
Speaker 1: two thousands, So he definitely bleeds Knes. And that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good one this weekend. Canes and Gators. But
Speaker 1: Mark taking the shot about foot Locker University of Florida
Speaker 1: State of course. Of course Mark was gonna take a
Speaker 1: shot at the Seminoles, even though, like I said, he
Speaker 1: has more of a hatred for the Gators.
Speaker 2: But good stuff they're from.
Speaker 1: Frank and this is an interesting one from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of Christian Kirk going back to Duval County, Eric Murray
Speaker 1: playing against the Texans. So a little bit of kind
Speaker 1: of swappage on both sides is gonna make this one
Speaker 1: quite quite interesting on Sunday, There's no question about that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: The particulars that will be in this game.
Speaker 4: C J.
Speaker 1: Stroud, Dimiko Ryans, even Liam Cohen all we're at the
Speaker 1: mic this week, so let's do a little Texans audio
Speaker 1: juke box next. Hearing from those three in particular right
Speaker 1: here in Texans All Access staping. Everybody, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: this final segment of Texans All Access.
Speaker 2: For this wonderful, wonderful Wednesday evening. I'm your host, John Harris.
Speaker 1: Foot play on the sideline Reporter for your Houston Texans taper,
Speaker 1: Little Texans Audio juke box. Before we close it down
Speaker 1: and turn it over to Area forty five. I was
Speaker 1: wonderful Wednesday, wherever you are. So a couple of Texans
Speaker 1: spoke today. A couple of Jaguars had things to say
Speaker 1: as well, so we'll play a little bit of that
Speaker 1: as well. But let's start with Demico Ryan and as
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, injury report looks a little better because
Speaker 1: you got Christian Kirk, Braxton, Barrios, Jake Andrews back in
Speaker 1: a limited capacity. Here's Coach when asked about his injured
Speaker 1: guys coming back.
Speaker 10: That's good to get our guys back, you know, getting Christian,
Speaker 10: bag Barrios, Jake is good to see them back out
Speaker 10: at practice today. Will continue to see how the week
Speaker 10: goes for them, but is encouraging to see them out
Speaker 10: there today working. Hopefully they can help us on Sunday.
Speaker 1: All for it, getting as many guys back as possible.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Jalen Smith did not practice due to hamstring,
Speaker 1: but Barrios, Andrews and Kirk back at practice today.
Speaker 2: That was great. Now Kirk used to be a member
Speaker 2: of the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: What about the current Jaguars team, Well, we asked it,
Speaker 1: Cassearria Frisk out of report. Here's coach giving you a
Speaker 1: little bit more concise report because he's up at the
Speaker 1: podium as opposed to with us. Here's coach talking about
Speaker 1: the Jags.
Speaker 10: From the Jags, I see, you know, really an explosive offense.
Speaker 10: He got playmakers starting with the running back to me,
Speaker 10: etn is really good player, tough tackle, right, so we
Speaker 10: got to do a great job of tackling again this week.
Speaker 10: Another Gary back. And the receivers. I think Brian Thomas
Speaker 10: one of the best young receivers in the league. Really
Speaker 10: like his skill set, really explosive player, plays, really great hands,
Speaker 10: attacking a deep part of the field as well. And
Speaker 10: they got Travis Hunter throw him in the mix, another
Speaker 10: another playmaker they're trying to feed the ball to a
Speaker 10: little bit more. Watching the Cincinnati game, Nan Trevor's done
Speaker 10: a really good job. I think Liam has done a
Speaker 10: really nice job working with Trevor. You can see some
Speaker 10: improvements from him, Like if the first guy's open, he's
Speaker 10: ripping it in there, and he rips it, he plays.
Speaker 10: He's playing decisive, playing on time, and it's still having
Speaker 10: that athletic ability to move out of the pocket extend
Speaker 10: plays is really what makes him lethal. So they're doing
Speaker 10: a really nice job. Offensive line have to definitely give
Speaker 10: them credit. They're doing a really nice job of protecting
Speaker 10: only given up one sack this year, so really nice
Speaker 10: job protecting the quarterback and protecting the football defensively. A
Speaker 10: lot of different looks. They mix it up a lot.
Speaker 10: We're gonna be challenged with what they do, especially on
Speaker 10: a passing situation, second and third down. They mix up
Speaker 10: a lot of looks, a lot of guys at the
Speaker 10: line of scrimins dropping in and out.
Speaker 7: Of coverage looks, pressure looks.
Speaker 10: So we have our hands full there when it comes
Speaker 10: to picking those things up and being decisive where they are.
Speaker 10: But they do a really nice job of attacking the football,
Speaker 10: playing fast and physical. Really like the way a defense
Speaker 10: is playing well.
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars traded up to number two. We all
Speaker 1: knew it for Travis Hunter at that point, and James
Speaker 1: Gladstone GM next day talked about how Travis was gonna
Speaker 1: change the game. Unfortunately, there was always some blowback on that,
Speaker 1: and it's not really about Travis. It's about Gladstone making
Speaker 1: too much of the situation.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I do think we're gonna see a
Speaker 1: little bit more Travis, especially in a Division game. I
Speaker 1: think these are the games you kind of save him for.
Speaker 1: This is what Tryan's is seeing from Travis Hunt.
Speaker 10: For Travis, we just we play like we have to
Speaker 10: do us better, so it's not us just singling out
Speaker 10: one player. He's definitely a part of what they do
Speaker 10: and they will try to feature him, but we don't
Speaker 10: overextend ourselves to try to chase ghosts or anything. Can
Speaker 10: heal lines all over the place. He will be in
Speaker 10: every position. They're gonna find ways to get in the ball.
Speaker 10: We just have to play sound and what we do defensively,
Speaker 10: and just we have to make the players we're supposed
Speaker 10: to make. Then when they do put him on the
Speaker 10: defensive side at the corner position. See he made a
Speaker 10: really nice play there on the sideline breaking up a
Speaker 10: pass you talk about a talented player, and you see
Speaker 10: why he's drafted where he's drafted, the impact he's had
Speaker 10: at both places he was at, you know, Jackson State
Speaker 10: and also at Colorado. You see the impact that the
Speaker 10: kid has made. Outstanding young man, outstanding player, and it's
Speaker 10: really cool to see a guy be able to play
Speaker 10: on both sides of the football and in the National
Speaker 10: Football League where a lot of people say it can't
Speaker 10: be done, but it's impressing.
Speaker 1: He still hasn't gotten that game yet where he's played,
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred snaps. My guess is, and it
Speaker 1: depends on what the weather is gonna be. You know,
Speaker 1: it looks like it could be a rainy, wet one
Speaker 1: on Sunday. If it's not, it's definitely gonna be hot
Speaker 1: because Jacksonville's got very similar weather to Houston. I know
Speaker 1: this really well. I thought, going to Jacksonville, Okay, it's Floria,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be No, it's the exact same weather basically
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get here. It's just here we're play inside.
Speaker 1: There they play outside, and you know we'll get wet
Speaker 1: if it rains, but so be it. That's just what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that said, that could determine what they
Speaker 1: do with Travis Hunter. And I said this, and we
Speaker 1: said it draft night. Playing hundred players in the NFL,
Speaker 1: is that's not a recipe for success consistently. Can you
Speaker 1: do it a game or two? Yes, back to back games,
Speaker 1: no playoff games potentially when the weather william, what's colder,
Speaker 1: when you have to worry about, you know, being out
Speaker 1: to for one hundred plays in night your heat, maybe,
Speaker 1: but it's just really hard to do that said, I
Speaker 1: think this is one of those games for the Jacks
Speaker 1: where they might want Travis Hunter on the field a
Speaker 1: lot more than he has been on either side of
Speaker 1: the ball. So I'm sort of expecting that to happen.
Speaker 1: Now we've gone on to Jacksonville, had a lot of success,
Speaker 1: but the games for the most part of the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three have been really really close. The wins, Dubiko
Speaker 1: ryans asad wins. They're close wins. But Miko said, look,
Speaker 1: that's that's the league, man, That's what this league is
Speaker 1: all about.
Speaker 10: Every game you're in, you really would like to win
Speaker 10: in a convincing fashion. As I tell guys, it's not
Speaker 10: it's the big schools versus the smallest It's NFL football,
Speaker 10: So every week you're playing against competitive opponents. It's not
Speaker 10: just oh, this is a w just because this team
Speaker 10: is on the schedule every week. You got to bring
Speaker 10: your best every single week. So whether it's a close game,
Speaker 10: whether it's not close, you just got to find a
Speaker 10: way to finish with the win. And that's what our
Speaker 10: guys are focused on. It's not focused on how many
Speaker 10: times we've been in one possession games. Guys, players, you
Speaker 10: don't think that way. You just think about going out.
Speaker 10: Whatever is in front.
Speaker 7: Of you, you attack it, you execute the right way,
Speaker 7: and you.
Speaker 10: Focus on winning that particular down and however the game
Speaker 10: shapes out. Right, we know they're gonna be tight. We
Speaker 10: know it always comes down to the fourth quarter, right,
Speaker 10: And that's why they have the red Zone channel.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, coach right about that. That's why they
Speaker 1: have the red Zone channel. And Scott Hansen always talks
Speaker 1: about the witching hour when you have like four or
Speaker 1: five games that are all close. Man, this league is
Speaker 1: all close. Everybody's got the same salary cap. You're blowing
Speaker 1: teams out. It's not what this league is all about.
Speaker 1: We'll hear a little bit more from CJ. In a
Speaker 1: little bit about that. He is kind of a pointed
Speaker 1: question back at the media. We'll get to that in
Speaker 1: just a second. But Asdamika ryans talking about games being close, man,
Speaker 1: it's why you got red zone channel.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to CJ.
Speaker 1: Stropp asked, of course, the question that has been on
Speaker 1: everybody's mind about the offense.
Speaker 2: Where's it going, what's the progress? He says, they're really close.
Speaker 1: And I know that people, some that I know very well,
Speaker 1: have been barking at this, really upset about it. And
Speaker 1: essentially the point is, okay, well then prove it. Well
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to prove it. Against Jacksonville Jaguars. But
Speaker 1: CJ said, yeah, man, I think we're moving closer to
Speaker 1: what it is that we want to be.
Speaker 9: They're really close. You know, we're like one or two
Speaker 9: plays away from you know, when in the tight games
Speaker 9: gets good teams and some two weeks he so you know,
Speaker 9: we're still building, still growing still you know again used
Speaker 9: to play on one another. So but yeah, we're very close.
Speaker 2: So here's my frustration with this.
Speaker 1: People get upset hearing CJ tmico us.
Speaker 2: Talk about it.
Speaker 1: Now it's a little different for us because Mark and
Speaker 1: I we can avoid that because we know that's something
Speaker 1: that you know, people.
Speaker 2: Don't want to hear her or go prove it or whatever.
Speaker 1: We can catch it because we got the mic, We
Speaker 1: got thirty minutes, we get an hour, we got two
Speaker 1: hours to be able to talk and discuss it.
Speaker 2: But we also aren't being.
Speaker 1: Asked the question every single time we go to a
Speaker 1: damn press conference. What are you gonna say? How do
Speaker 1: you change up the answer to the press conference?
Speaker 4: You don't?
Speaker 1: You say, yeah, we're getting closer, we're doing better things.
Speaker 1: And he's right in a sense that we have been close.
Speaker 1: You make a couple of plays against the Rams. You
Speaker 1: want to know you make those plays, you probably are
Speaker 1: gonna make some plays against the Bucks you're two and zero,
Speaker 1: but you didn't. And now you gotta climb out of
Speaker 1: a hole. But that's not the question being asked. The
Speaker 1: questions are being asked so it begets that answer. So
Speaker 1: if you're getting mad, get mad at people were answering
Speaker 1: the damn same question, and you know who I'm mad at.
Speaker 2: So there we go.
Speaker 1: Okay, calm down, John, here we go now to that
Speaker 1: all being said, what are the things that CJ thinks
Speaker 1: he can improve on and help the team get better.
Speaker 1: He kinda had a really interesting right off the top
Speaker 1: one word everything.
Speaker 9: I don't know everything. I can always be better. I
Speaker 9: told them the other day, like, if anything he sees
Speaker 9: or anybody sees, I can be better and let me know,
Speaker 9: you know. I think I my process has really been
Speaker 9: good lately. I'll see the field well, putting the ball
Speaker 9: is supposed to be, with the coverages and whatnot, and
Speaker 9: some things. It's just I didn't really get a ton
Speaker 9: of reps with some of the guys we're getting in
Speaker 9: the game at receiver, so that's a little bit of
Speaker 9: a challenge. But I think that's one of my biggest things,
Speaker 9: just being the coach on the field, you know, and
Speaker 9: taking that step. And it takes time, it's not overnight.
Speaker 9: So that's the area I think I can go.
Speaker 1: One of the things I love about CJ is how
Speaker 1: hypercritical he is about himself. That he's always looking inward,
Speaker 1: trying to find the right answers for himself, knowing that
Speaker 1: if he does better, offense does better, then you don't
Speaker 1: get asked the question about where the offense is et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So that being said, I'm just I'm still
Speaker 1: stuck on that, still suck on that whole thing.
Speaker 2: But I'll get past it either way.
Speaker 1: Dimko has asked this a little while ago two about
Speaker 1: close games, and I think CJ has a better response
Speaker 1: in a sense because he's like, look at the scores.
Speaker 2: What are the scores every single week?
Speaker 4: How many blowouts.
Speaker 2: Are there in the NFL?
Speaker 4: There aren't.
Speaker 2: I mean we're only two. I'll take a win anywhere
Speaker 2: you can get it.
Speaker 1: That's what CJ says here about just winning a game
Speaker 1: and you know, doing what you gotta do to win
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 9: I mean, how many blog wins do you see it?
Speaker 9: And we've had those games like we played New England
Speaker 9: last year, had a really good game again, same played
Speaker 9: the Chargers day, same thing. My rookie year. We had
Speaker 9: a couple of block wins. So I mean, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, it's yeah, I mean, you know, if
Speaker 9: you can blow everybody out, that's the NFL. It's the
Speaker 9: best players in the world for a reason, you know
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So I don't know, I just want
Speaker 9: to I don't care how it looks where it's at.
Speaker 5: You just want to.
Speaker 1: Win a men, because the last I looked, it says
Speaker 1: w L T in the column this is win loss, tie.
Speaker 1: Doesn't say pretty win, doesn't say ugly loss. It doesn't
Speaker 1: say oh now it has the point discrepancy. But that
Speaker 1: has never really come into play in a playoff seating situation,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. You just play to win games.
Speaker 1: As Herman Edwards said, you played win a game, win
Speaker 1: a game twenty three, twenty two, forty three, forty two.
Speaker 1: I don't care ninety three to six. However, you got
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 4: Do it.
Speaker 1: That's that's it. So go in a football game in
Speaker 1: Duval County. Speaking of Duval County, let's hear from Liam
Speaker 1: Cohen as he's getting his team ready for the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans to come to town.
Speaker 2: And you know the Jags are ready.
Speaker 1: Just listen to this answer from Liam Cohen about the
Speaker 1: Texans come to town.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we talked just now as a team and really
Speaker 11: just talked about the focus being on us, and we
Speaker 11: need it to be. We don't have time to waste
Speaker 11: energy or emotional energy on anything else besides fixing and
Speaker 11: correcting the issues and mistakes from our game and putting
Speaker 11: our effort into you know, we had a huge.
Speaker 8: Indivision opponent this week.
Speaker 11: Yes, we have an opponent we have to play and
Speaker 11: prepare for, but we really have to focus on us
Speaker 11: right now and get some of this stuff cleaned up
Speaker 11: that we, you know, messed up yesterday.
Speaker 8: Coaches, players, everybody.
Speaker 11: But you know, I think at this point it's so
Speaker 11: early like these Yeah, there may be who knows what emotions,
Speaker 11: you know, I can't speak to that, but I can
Speaker 11: say that these guys, I think they'll come in with
Speaker 11: the right mindset mentality this week to come and.
Speaker 8: Get this thing right in terms of things.
Speaker 11: We got to get fixed and be ready to go
Speaker 11: play a tough, physical game that we're going to go
Speaker 11: we have to play on Sunday.
Speaker 2: I love that response from Liam Cohen.
Speaker 1: Loved it because he's putting the focus right back on
Speaker 1: the game. I will say that is going to be
Speaker 1: a big challenge for them. That situation that happened last year,
Speaker 1: it was talked about, it was talked about the Jacksonville media.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville media is.
Speaker 1: Talking about this, and you know, the Texas is coming back.
Speaker 1: And besides the fact that that incident happened, last year.
Speaker 1: The Texans have gone down to Duval County in one
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
Speaker 1: and twenty four.
Speaker 2: That to me is the bigger issue.
Speaker 1: Then oh azizel Shier is coming back to Jacksonville, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Let them be pumped up, let them be
Speaker 1: over jacked up and do some things wrong because they're
Speaker 1: focusing on the wrong things. That's why I felt like
Speaker 1: that quote from Liocn. Cohen was a great one to
Speaker 1: hone in on because that's the exact right philosophy he's
Speaker 1: got to have. And it goes with the Texans too,
Speaker 1: you know the Texans. You know Seth Pain's talked about
Speaker 1: this and he's absolutely dead on. You know, swarm is
Speaker 1: is perfect. It's great mentality, but it can't be you know,
Speaker 1: this hyperkinetic swarm where you're throwing shoulders into guys and
Speaker 1: you're not making good tackles, and you're getting yourself out
Speaker 1: of gaps because you're just twitching to get off the ball,
Speaker 1: all those kind of things.
Speaker 2: You've got to do things right. The whole key to
Speaker 2: swarm is doing things right.
Speaker 1: As Belichick said, do your job, So play with swarm mentality,
Speaker 1: but do the things right. Turn it up to volume ten,
Speaker 1: as Ezel Shire talked about in the locker room today.
Speaker 1: Turn it to volume ten. But if you go from
Speaker 1: zero to ten, we're gonna make mistakes. We gotta be
Speaker 1: ramping this thing up throughout, and then there are times
Speaker 1: when you can really crank up the volume. So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of volume for sure on Sunday
Speaker 1: with Texans and Jags. Texans desperately needing a win. Jags
Speaker 1: want to prove they can play with the big boys,
Speaker 1: and this is one of those opportunities. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is Jacksonville's styled honestly, they don't play as
Speaker 1: physical as we do. They need to play their style,
Speaker 1: which is fast, get out and play fast. We got
Speaker 1: fast guys. We're gonna try and embarrass you with our speed. Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: That's what I focus on. But hopefully I'm not well,
Speaker 1: I'm not Jacksonville, thankfully, and hopefully they don't. Hopefully they get,
Speaker 1: you know, down into Quagmar with us, and if they do,
Speaker 1: they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get physically beat up. If not, well, they might have.
Speaker 1: A shot because they got some athletes, There's no question
Speaker 1: about that on that side of the ball. All Right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this evening Evening show. A
Speaker 1: big thanks to Dimico, CJ. Liam Cohen for this final segment.
Speaker 1: A big thanks to Frank Frangie, longtime friend from Jacksonville
Speaker 1: and great on a mike there as a play by
Speaker 1: playman for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Xavier Hutchinson, Jacksonville native jumping
Speaker 1: on the show, did a great job and he played my.
Speaker 2: Game extremely, extremely well.
Speaker 1: Tomork vandermir the executive vice president General Manager Nick Caseario,
Speaker 1: appreciate everybody for being a part of this show.
Speaker 2: We'll see you tomorrow and as always, go Texans.