WEBVTT - EVP/GM Nick Caserio Breaks Down Jaguars Matchup, looks back at Bucs game 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.320 Welcome into a Wednesday edition that Texans All Access from 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.800 the Honday Texans a radio studio. I am your host, 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:09.920 John Harris, football analystis sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.800 Getting ready for what could be a wet Sunday afternoon 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.360 against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:16.000 Fingers crossed. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:18.560 It won't be, but it could be, but a big one. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:23.640 Nonetheless Week three Division opponent ozeroing two. Gotta get a win. 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:30.280 Jaguars very excited to see what the Texans are bringing 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.760 to North Florida. They are very excited to see Houston. 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.680 They two years ago did mention one word about the 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:39.519 Houston Texans. This year, all the talk is about the 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.800 Houston Texans coming to North Florida to take on the Jaguars. 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.280 Looking forward to that. Now we got plenty on the show. 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:52.640 We've got Florida, Jacksonville, Florida native Xavier Hutchinson. Although Saint 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.600 John's County is not Duval County, it's close enough. Saint 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.920 John's County is kind of neighboring county where I got married, 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.840 et cetera. So Xavier Hutchinson, He's going to join us 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.960 talk about Jacksonville, to talk about life out of state, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.160 talk about this team, his role at wide receivers, who'll 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.959 have excell leader to the show, speaking of Jacksonville. Man 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.800 behind the mics, Frank Frangie is going to join the show. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.920 Our good friend Mark catches up with him, talk Jags. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.880 We'll do that a little later to the show, Mark obviously, 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.200 and I will break down the quarterbacks in the NFL. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.360 Some report cards came out for Week two in the NFL. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.760 Do you agree or disagree with the grades that were 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.480 handed out, including the great handed out to our own CJ. Stroud, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.600 which I don't agree with, uh, but you know their 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.000 expectations built in, but I didn't agree with it. We'll 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.600 talk about that in our next segment. By kicking off 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.039 the show as he does each and every Wednesday, Executive 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.840 vice president general manager of your Houston Texans, Nick Cassario. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.640 Here is Mark me Nick. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.160 Now joining us Now executive vice president and general Manager 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:54.880 Nick Cassario. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.640 Nick, good to see you, fellows. How we doing doing well? 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.880 Okay, so owing to let's talk about game won a 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.680 Game two improvement improved in a lot of areas, but 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:04.760 you didn't get the win. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:05.880 How do you see the big picture? 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.560 Here, Nick, Yeah, similar really both games and say both 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.080 came down to the last possession of the game. So 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.200 some areas we improved, like you mentioned, didn't turn the 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.880 ball over for the most part, took decent care of 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:17.760 the ball. I mean they dropped a couple of interceptions, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.720 but in the end like no turnovers. You know, got 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.800 to do a better job and thirn down collectively as 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.360 a team. You know, tackling certainly showed up in a 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:27.120 game against Tampa as well, so. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.040 We can improve in subtlely in some of those areas. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.000 The margins are small in. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.760 This league, so it's just we got to get back 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.760 to work and try to find ways to get better. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.000 I mean, we can't sit around and worry about what happened. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.160 What happened happened. So now we just got to focus 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.280 on Jacksonville and try to play good, clean football. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.080 Nick, before the game, always asked you three different keys, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:50.440 and I asked you about special teams and special teams. 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:51.919 Last night showed up in a big way. 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.440 Jalen with the number of returns he had and then 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.799 Yakub with the block punt to really keep the team 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:57.120 in the game. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.120 What were your thoughts about him? 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.040 What overall they did. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:00.920 Sure, and we talked before the game was really gonna 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.280 come down to third down, explosive plays in the kicking game, 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.760 and felt there was an opportunity for us to make 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.880 a play in a kicking game. We made multiple plays 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.440 so kind of kept us in the game in some respects. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.440 Anytime you block a punt and return the ball, multiple 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.919 explosive returns. Got close on a field goal block attempt, 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.640 I mean Will kind of went around it and the 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.600 ball ended up going kind of underneath them and hit 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:23.919 the upright, so it made some plays in the kicking game. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.720 We felt that was an area that could potentially played 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.680 our advantage and you know, certainly number of positives in 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.840 that area. Like I said, we talked about third down 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.840 and think just third down is going to be an 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.880 important emphasis for for Jacksonville. One of the better third 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.800 down teams in the league. And the explosive plays. So 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.840 had our moments where we were able to create some. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.360 We didn't give up too too many, but they got 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 a couple of chunks. So but that's that's what this 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:48.920 league is about and ultimately that's what games come down to. 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.920 Ed Ingram was back at guard and that reconfigured the 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.560 line again, Nick, and you drive down the field opening 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.560 possession and put the ball in the end zone with 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.880 the throw from CJ to Nico. After that we had 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:03.040 the field goal drive. But what happened to stall the 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.320 offense until the fourth quarter we scored some more points. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:07.920 Yeah, I mean credit to Tampa. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.640 They did some good things defensively, probably could have handled 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.920 some looks a little bit better than we did. But 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:15.880 you know, we just got to be able to execute 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.440 when when it matters most first two drives, like you mentioned, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.640 you know, positive plays, and really we got a first down, 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.480 first and goal and then we got called back with 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.200 a holding penalty. So penalty is a little bit of 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.920 an issue collectively as a team, and it's just those 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.680 plays are potentially going to impact winning in a negative way, 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.280 and you know, coming to find out if that was 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.320 the case, you know, the other night against Tampa. 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.400 Yeah, definitely. But offensively, you're seeing some things from young guys. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.839 Your Woody Marx comes in there, does some good things. 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:44.880 You know, Jayden Higgins has that big catch across the 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.200 middle that makes a play, and obviously Jalen in the 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.799 return game which sparks the offense at that point. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.440 You've seen the things you want from some of your young. 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.800 Guys, and obviously they didn't mention Arianta Ersari, who played 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:54.719 all game and left tackle. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.480 Yeah, any player, just your job is to take advantage 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.720 of your opportunities however they present themselves, and we had 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.520 a number players who have done that. We have good players. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.000 We feel like we have a good team. We haven't 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.840 played good enough football to win. I bet that's the 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.600 real hell of the NFL. But those young players are 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.760 here for a reason and we feel that as they 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.360 continue to grow and evolve, and if you're productive, you're 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.760 going to get more opportunities. So we'll see how it 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.520 all comes to fruition here moving forward. 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.440 You mentioned third down on offense and two for nine, 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.200 and I know you want to see that number be 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.200 a lot better. What goes into that being in third 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.640 and short or Hey, if we can convert a couple 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.039 more of these than we have three and more carries 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.880 or so, and that affects the running game, It effects everything. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.320 Yeah, sure, I mean the goal is to try to 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.160 stay out of third and longer yardist situations, and number 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.839 of those third downs were longer yardist situations. It puts 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.760 you in a little bit of a disadvantageous position, and 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.839 Tampa has a pretty good blitz package. They were able 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.839 to execute that times where we were there where we 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.880 kind of had them accounted for and had them blocked, 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.400 but they were still able to make a play. But 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.760 third down is usually a product the first and second down, 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.440 so all of it's tied together both sides of the ball. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.039 Really, Nick, I always think about this, go back with me. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.840 Two thousand and seven, Michigan gets beat by Apple Watch 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.160 and State. The next week, still kind of with a 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.280 hangover from that, Oregon comes in or there's a good 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.480 football team, but Oregon beats Michigan because it felt like 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.920 Michigan was still kind of lingering on that lost applatch 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.480 in State. How do you make sure that this loss 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.120 last on Monday night doesn't linger it to the week 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:21.880 against Jacksonville. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.440 Yeah, it's just the reality the NFL. I mean, it 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.200 takes a certain level of discipline of mental toughness, So 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.120 you can't let what happened the previous week impact what's 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.039 going to happen the following week. We understand the challenges 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:33.880 that are in front of us. Jacksonville is a good 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.680 football team, let's talk about here in a minute. They 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.320 certainly improved. So that's part of your job is to 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.200 take inventory of what happened in the game, put that 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.560 to bed, and then get ready for the next opponent, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.760 which in this case is Jacksonville. So it's going to 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.640 take a collective effort. We're confident the people that we 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.479 have in the building, but it's going to take a 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.160 certain level of discipline, commitment, and mental toughness because that's 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.119 what this league is about. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.640 Let's talk more about the passing game here, because Nico 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.720 Collins made some big plays for you know that you're 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.599 lacking in the tight end department, but you elevated Harrison Bryant, 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.279 Dalton Schultz made some big plays. 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.479 What do you see it over the overall there? 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.200 Nick and John talked about the rookies getting that more involved. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.720 Easier said than done sometimes, but they are contributing. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.200 Yeah, everybody that's on the field making contribution to some capacity, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.760 and on offensively only had forty six forty seven plays, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.320 so really weren't on the field for that many plays. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.720 So however, many plays that you're allotted go out there, 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.920 do you execute your assignment? Do you know your assignment 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.360 number one, UM or two. Can you go out there 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.160 and execute it and can you make a play when 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.920 your number is called? And there are multiple examples of that, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.120 and Orre's multiple examples week one. So we just got 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.520 to kind of continue to build on those things and 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.200 figure out what are some of the things that we're 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.080 doing well and try to accentuate those as we move forward. 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.320 Yeah, Harrison speaking Harrison Bryant. Harrison had a really nice 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.960 block in the touchdown run for Nick. Was he entitled, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.120 did a nice job there. Okay, put the bucks in 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:51.840 the rear view mirror. 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.360 Thank god, get that game out, think everybody nice little 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.680 gut punch. Didn't feel so good about it. But let's 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.200 move forward to the Jacks in Jacksonville. A lot of 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.000 the same names, but a new head coach, kind of 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.640 a new vision, new everything. 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.080 Nick Scouting report of the. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.400 Jackson Yeah, they've been very strategic about how they build 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.040 a team. To your point, there's some carryover from previous years, 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.480 but then say there's new say leadership with James and 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.680 Liam kind of come in and put their imprint on 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:18.520 the team. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:18.800 You know. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.280 Hired Anthony Campanelli on the defensive side of the ball, 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.400 who's a very well respected coach, and then Grant you 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.960 Dinsky's the offensive coordinator. You know, Liam calls the plays, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.640 but they kind of work in unison and Heath Farwell 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:31.880 is a carryover from the previous staff. Is one of 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:33.679 the better special teams coaches in the league. So it's 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.240 kind of a blend of some new faces and new 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.200 philosophies with some some existing players. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.559 But good football team. They've played really well. 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.480 The one thing that they've done they've taken the ball 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.360 away from especially defensive, they've taken the ball away. I 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.960 think they have seven turnovers. There's six or seven turnovers 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.160 over the first two games. They've almost eclipsed their total 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.839 from last season. Starting a defensive side of about really strong, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.880 I would say, formidable front, really good edge players, you 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.520 know tray Von and Heinz Allen. Heines Allen's one of 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.640 the best defensive players in the league. Consistently causes problems 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.880 for the opponent. Big inside with Hamilton and Armstead. They 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.480 made a trade there at the at the end of 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:15.920 the training camp acquired Saunders and then they signed guard 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.400 Deck in free agency. He is kind of giving them 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.760 a good place, kind of a hybrid a defensive end 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.520 or outside linebacker, good kicking game player, and then you 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.679 know the strategic signing. I would say Jordan Lewis, who 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.520 they kind of earmarked to me, the nickel has been 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:31.439 a really good player inside the formation, Tyson Campbell, it's 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.800 been a kind of a mainstay of there and a 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.200 perimeter and they're kind of rotating opposite him with Jerry 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.000 and Jones, and they given Hunter some steps on the perimeter, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.520 a corner and Eric Murray's done a really good job 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.160 for them in the first two games, so he's kind 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.400 of solidified that safety position him and wingers, so they 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:47.720 do a good job defensively. Carrid a lot of problems 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.680 for the offense, and offensively, Liam's done a good job, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.960 I would say, of kind of putting his imprint on 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.199 a system. Trevor's playing really good football. They have really 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.200 good skill, they have explosive skill. They're fast. Brian Thomas, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.640 deanmi Brown. They signed free agency Travis when he's on 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.720 the offensive side of the ball, I mean he's fast. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.800 I mean the two running backs, I mean Twoton's fast, 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.520 Etn's fast, you know, and Strange just kind of emerges 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:13.679 is the lead tight end and a pretty They made 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.320 a number of changes on the offensive line. Looks like 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.920 those players have worked out. And then then the kicking game, 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.640 probably three of the best specialists combined between the kicker 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.120 little you know, Metistic, the long snapper you know, and 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.760 then they're punters. So they do a good job. It's 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.600 a good football team. They're one and one. I mean, honestly, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.320 they probably should have beat Cincinnati the other day. Kind 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.920 of came down to the end of the game, the 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.920 last play where Cincinnati converted the sneak and that would 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.920 end up being the difference in the game. So certainly 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:43.360 a challenge playing on the road in the division against 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.240 a good football team who's certainly improved. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.200 So we're gonna have to make sure we're ready to go. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.760 Et N I don't know whether to call it a 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.400 renaissance or he's finally coming into his own how would 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.200 you describe it, because he's making it. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:55.640 Yeah, he's always been a good player. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 Early on, it was kind of injuries, and he's healthy 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.760 and he's fast and he's explosive, and they've given him 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.480 a number of opportunities. He's their leading rusher week one. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.160 I mean, he had some chunk runs very explosive when 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.200 he hits a whole. Tuton is very similar in that 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.160 respect the guy who came out in the draft his 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.600 past year. He's fast, I mean really fast. I mean 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.839 they think they felt good about about Touton and Alan 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:19.560 who they drafted, and they were able to move on 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.600 from Bigsby. But Etn certainly creates a lot of problems 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.080 if there's a crease. I mean, he can hit the 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.160 home run at at any point. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.760 What are you seeing, Nick, and how they're using Travis, 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.720 because I know there's so much talk about what Travis 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.080 was gonna do. Is he's gonna play both ways, He's 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.160 gonna be just transcendent. How are they using Travis on 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:34.920 both sides of the ball. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.120 Yeah, they're kind of I'd say this past weekend Cincinnati, 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.920 he was a little more balanced defensively and offensive it 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.040 looks like and defensively he's playing on a perimeter a 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.480 little bit more than situational. It's kind of like we'll 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.600 call it the third corner then offensively the third to 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.480 fourth receiver, depending on however they're deploying them. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.920 But he's athletic, very athletic. 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.400 I mean, he has very good hand eye coordination, runs well, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.520 has good quickness, he's a smart kid. He's a really 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.440 good kid, you know, coming out. So they've done a 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.360 good job and he's a big part of what they're 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.320 doing both now and in the future. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.960 What's the early review on Trevor Lawrence and the effect 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.079 that Liam Cohne and his staff are having on the 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:12.480 quarter But. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.920 Yeah, Liam's done a good job historically over his career 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.040 with quarterbacks. And we saw Baker the other night. I mean, 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.960 Baker had a career year last year, you know with Liam, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.520 and Trevor's off to a good start. So doing a 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:24.000 pretty good job taking care of the ball. I mean, 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:25.440 I think he threw one the other day, one or 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.000 two the other day, but for the most part, making 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:31.360 good decisions. It's a quarterback friendly system that they employ. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.640 So between him and Grant, you know, they doing a 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.840 good job of putting him in a position to succeed. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.719 You use the word fast a few times as you were, well, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.240 Dimie Brown, he's fast, and Travis hunder Chee's fast and 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.600 toot and ran like a four to three to two 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.559 at the combine. It felt like that was their mo o, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.640 like we're going out and we're getting speed. We're gonna 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.920 be as fast on offense as we could possibly be. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:52.959 How do you see that kind of manifest itself in 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:53.560 the way they play. 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.400 Yeah, shows up on the tape, shows up on the 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.640 tape defensively as well. I mean Eric runs well, Eric's fast. 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.200 I mean Travis is fast. I mean Jordan Lewis, you know, 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.240 is fast. So I think the overall athleticism, they made 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.959 a concentrated effort your peers to incorporate more athleticism and 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.600 speed to kind of compliment some of the bigger players 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.440 on the offensive defensive side of the ball, and they're 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.360 seeing the fruits their labor sources speed. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.760 Nick talking about the Texans offense, and you talked about 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.880 some things that need improvement, some things that looked good 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.680 against Tampa Bay and even against the Rams. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.280 How important is patients? I know you want to win. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.600 But also we're looking at a work in progress in 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.840 many ways because it is a new system and you 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.680 open against two very tough teams. Can you speak to 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.560 that a little bit, the process of developing this offense. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.200 Yeah, early part of the season, you're trying to figure out, 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.080 really what does your team look like? What do you have? 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.600 What do you have schematically, what do you have personnel wise? 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:46.920 There's certain things we're going to do more of, maybe 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.280 a little bit more of this, a little bit less 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.360 of that, and a lot of that is a feel 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.400 and getting a sense for a what the players are 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.600 comfortable doing and what they're good at. So it just 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:57.680 it takes work. I mean, there's no other way around it. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:00.640 I mean there's no magical formula that has required other 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.400 than to go out there and do it and to 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.559 execute and to get some positive reinforcement. If there's something 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.319 that needs to get fixed, try to work to get 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.560 it fixed. That's really what this league is about. And 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.600 it's not going to change whether it's week three or 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.320 week eighteen. 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.559 Nick, what's the crossover between Grizzard and what he's doing 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.080 with the Bucks and what Liam's doing with the Jacks. 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.840 Because Grizzard steps in for coing with the Bucks, did 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.600 it help it all to face the Bucks to give 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.080 you kind of a little bit of a preview for 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:28.720 the Jags at all? 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.080 Yeah, it needs to be careful because sometimes it's because 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.600 somebody's worked together been in the same system that it's 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.600 automatically cutting past. It typically isn't some of the things 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.600 that Tampa Bay is doing are different than what they 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.240 did last year. Same thing with Jacksonville. Some of the 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.680 things that they're doing are different than what Tampa is doing. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.320 So maybe there's a baseline sort of foundation that's in place, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.800 but ultimately comes back to the players. How are they 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.280 using those players? Where are they putting them? Because you 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.000 don't not every team has the same players, So there's 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.680 some crossover some elements, but it's not a basic cutting paste. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.200 Nick players around the league, and no matter the team, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.560 no matter the player developing that player, how much of 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.480 it is on coaching versus the individual themselves and what 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.560 they need to do and figure out for themselves. I 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.240 know it's got to be a marriage of sorts, but 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:15.040 how do you gauge them? 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.320 No, it's a great question mark. It's a combination of everything. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.160 It's their player's willingness to absorb the information, to take 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.320 coaching and be able to apply it. Everybody has different 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.720 mechanisms with which they learn in which they can Some 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.880 players would rather go out there and do it physically, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.240 whether it's a walk through or in practice, as opposed 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.160 to learning it in a classroom. All a piece of 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.840 paper and from a coaching perspective, a lot of this 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.200 is psychology and philosophy of what do we need to 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:40.240 do to help the players? 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:41.560 How do we reach them? 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.720 So it takes a lot of communication, and it takes 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.360 a lot of work, and it's probably not going to 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:49.080 happen overnight. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.400 It normally doesn't. That's not the case. 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.320 So but we have a number of players that have 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.480 the right attitude, to have the right mindset, and ultimately 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.200 it's going to come down to you. You doing your 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.720 individual job as best you can on a basis. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.680 So on a Sunday with a Monday game, on a Sunday, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.760 are you red zone guy? Are you locked into next opponent? 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.360 Are you whatever's on TV just popped on? How do 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.760 you handle Sunday? From from your perspective. 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.000 Yeah, really, it was kind of working on sort of 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.600 their next opponent, not so much you're aware maybe what's 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.280 going on in the league, but maybe you're focused on 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:23.480 the next few teams that you're gonna play. So whether 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.800 it's Jacksonville to Tennessee to Baltimore, and it's really off 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.560 the the exos to the video. If the TV was on, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.800 especially on a Sunday, if there's a golf tournament that's on, 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.680 They're probably going to be watching it, so you don't 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.520 need a little bit of a distraction. I'm not a 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.640 big red Zone guy, so I know that it disappoints 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.880 a lot of people, but it's not my cup of tea. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.320 No, this has become a very contentious point about people 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.080 watching games. I would imagine you can watch red Zone, 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.400 especially you know Jack's coming up probably watching that game, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.200 maybe you know tuned into that. But there are some 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.040 people that like they have to, like I have to 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:54.120 have Red Zone on Sunday. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.640 You know, I could maybe tell you the number of 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.280 times on one hait less than one hand. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:16:59.320 And I've watched Red Zone. 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.320 So well, you're probably thinking, I'm gonna wait for the 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:02.520 all twenty two on the games. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.959 I know we're gonna get the video. You're gonna watch it, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:06.760 so keep the focus there. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.520 Does it drive you kind of crazy? Because I know 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.199 it drives him crazy. Johnny about watching a game on 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.119 TV in general, because you don't see the whole development 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.400 development of a play downfield, what's going on with the receivers. 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:18.520 While the quarterbacks say. 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.439 If you're watching an upcoming opponent, there is some merit 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.920 to watching the television version of it, but you do 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:26.479 kind of lose sight of kind of the big picture. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.280 It's kind of you start close and then it pans 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.320 out to a certain point. But there might be some 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.040 other things that you could pick up. When we talked 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.479 about this on a few shows ago, talking about college 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.639 and watching games live versus watching them on TV and 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.879 then go back and scouting. So wherever you can gain 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.600 information from. However you do it, there's merit to it. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:46.359 You just got to be careful of putting stock too 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.600 much stock in one thing versus the other. 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.960 Getting out seeing college games. No, you've been doing that, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.199 that's obviously. It feels like something that you'd like to 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.040 do as well, to be able to see a game 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.159 up close and see guys up close, whether it's you know, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.919 a game, whether we're on the road just seeing a 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.640 game up close and just kind of getting a read 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:05.280 on early read on guys. 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:06.680 How how's that going from? 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:08.800 Yeah, for sure, it's really top to bottom. It's not 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.000 just these certain players. There are certain graded level of players. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.199 I mean, it's anybody from call it sixty four, sixty 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:18.199 five down to fifty seven or fifty eight. Those players 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.520 it might be late to more free agents. So just 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.680 having a big picture understanding of as many players as possible, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.240 understanding that they're going to be relevant. You know, with 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.280 the University of Houston and you know they've done a 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:29.960 good job and they're off to a good start, they're 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.199 gonna have some players who are gonna factor in. And 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.280 there's gonna be some of those players that, quite frankly, 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:35.880 we're gonna have in the building in the spring for. 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:36.480 A local day. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:39.080 So it's just kind of taken inventory of what's out there, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.399 what's going on, who's playing, how are they playing. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.280 It's really more of a big picture. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.199 Since as opposed to getting so focused and caught up 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.600 on one particular player or one particular play. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.120 I know that we have a bye week coming up, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:51.840 and I don't even know if this is a lot. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.440 I know professionals, you others, Scotts from other teams are 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.639 up in the press box for games. But if you 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.159 wanted to go see you know, Seattle, because that'll be 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.880 our opponent after the could you go to that game? 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:04.840 Could you scout that live? Yeah, I don't know if 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.960 you'd want to, but could you do guys out loud? Now, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.480 I mean through the advanced scouting process. I mean, that's 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.320 really the only way that you can do it. I 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.560 mean there's some other mechanisms that a lot of colleges 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.560 have tried. The penalized accordingly for that, but I mean, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.359 could you go, like, I don't know who Seattle's playing 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.440 the week before they play. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.440 Either, but could you go watch that. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.960 There's certain rules and parameters in place that we have 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.040 to comply with. So that's not something that's going to 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:26.920 be on my dance. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.720 That figured Nick at practice this time of year. 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.399 We see you during training camp and that's ones against 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.760 ones and a lot of action and padded practices and 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.959 things like that. How is it for you? What are 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.680 you observing this time of year? Full game week mode, 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.240 a lot of look team against the first teamers on 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:43.000 each side of the ball. 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:43.879 How do you approach it? 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.840 Yeah, you're just watching that respective side of the ball 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.080 who was live and just looking at the play and 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.040 the execution and again kind of a big picture. I mean, 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.040 you guys see me back there standing. It's really more 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.399 just to kind of see everything that's going on, and 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.199 it's not necessarily that you're watching one particular player or 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.480 just watching part of this is just education from a 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.320 schematic standpoint. Okay, hey, this player is supposed to be 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.200 here on this play, and if he's doing the right thing, great, 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:08.800 And then you go back and watch a practice film. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:10.800 This way, when you're having discourse or dialogue with the 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.600 coaching staff, you can kind of talk in an educated fashion. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.760 So it's kind of stay back there, kind of stay 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.240 out of the way, but watch the live sort of 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.200 side of the balls as it's happening. 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.560 When you go back and you watch practice film, Nick, 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.439 what do you what is it that you focus on? 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.600 I mean, you look at everything. Do you look at individuals? 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:28.800 K I know you guys film everything. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:29.560 Do you look at. 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:31.879 Individual you look at seven on seven? What is it 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.560 you kind of focus on what you watch the practice? 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:35.960 Most of the team team is seven on seven and 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.120 then you know, some of the individual drills if maybe 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.640 a player's coming back from something, or watch what he's 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.440 doing an individual drill hole he's moving. 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:43.760 So it all depends. 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.480 But most of the team stuff, offense, defense, and special 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.440 teams kind of go through all three phases and just 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.639 kind of hey, what happened in practice, how to go 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:52.639 what are some things that we can clean up or 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.680 improve and then just move on to the next day. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.399 All Right, we were talking about things you watch, and 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.000 we'll wrap it up with this, because I've been in 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.840 your office and you have one of the financial channels, 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.400 So is it going to be CNBC, Bloomberg, Fox Business? 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.439 That's the one that for sure. Just a lot of 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.080 information up there, and I have. 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.919 The volume down, so it's not necessarily listening to what 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.960 they're saying. But if there's a guest, or maybe there's 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.280 a CEO or some leader that's on or an analyst 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.959 who you follow that might have some insight. There's certain folks, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.159 just like anything, you'd like to listen to certain people 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:28.800 for information. And my guy's pretty smart, that woman's pretty smart. 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:30.879 Oh that's pretty good insight. Oh maybe there's an idea 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:34.280 there that causes some generation, whether it's an individual application 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.119 of your portfolio or just a big picture leadership trend 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.960 or something else. So try to stay away from the 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.840 chaos and some of the newsy items. I love the markets. 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.600 I just enjoy following them on a day to day basis. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.960 So part of it is educating myself and just staying informed. 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.920 And sometimes it's a good release or an outlet from 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:55.399 like the Red Zone Channel News. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:59.040 Second next week Nick's picks for stocks I have of those. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.000 Was the last time we had CNBC on our TV. 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:04.760 Never I think I'd even have to make sure we 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:06.600 had it because I wanted to check if Nick was 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.320 going to be able to get it. Okay, Nick, thanks 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:09.240 a lot, good luck this week. 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:09.960 Thanks fellas. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:11.560 Next week, man, we got a lot of things to 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.840 talk about with Nick and those those might be good 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:14.560 for a bye week. 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.480 We'll circle that, all right, we get back. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.399 Some quarterback report card grades came out from the Bleacher Report, 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:23.160 marking out discussed, including what they gave to CJ. 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:23.800 Stroud. 0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:25.560 Disagree, but we'll. 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:29.680 Discuss it next right here in Texas Access, Chapping everybody, 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:32.600 welcome back this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.879 the Texans Radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice of 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.359 the Texans, Mark Vandermer. Mark, I saw this earlier today 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:43.120 and I thought, I love to talk about the NFL, 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.280 not just the Texans, And we've talked a lot about 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.840 the Texans, talked a lot about the game with from 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.960 Monday Night with Nick a Sario previewing the Jags a 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.240 little bit. I like going around the NFL and talking 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.840 around talking about the NFL, and so I saw this 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:57.760 from Bleacher Report. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.240 I thought this was interesting. They do report. 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:05.280 Cards for each week of the NFL for every quarterback, 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.199 and I thought some of these were interesting. Now the 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.800 one I haven't seen, and I'm getting this the exact 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:17.480 same time that you're getting that, and that is CJ. 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:21.800 Stroud from the Texans. And they did this in a 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.800 grade order if you ca Okay, maybe not. It looks 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.480 like they did this in alpha. Oh they did an 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:28.800 alphabetical team order. 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.520 Oh geez leach. 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:36.480 Your report gave CJ. Stroud a d well for the 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.040 first two games. For the game against the Bucks, a 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.160 d A d well. Look, you lost the game, right 0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.719 lost the game? You didn't You didn't win the game. 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.880 I feel like I feel like Mike McDaniel right now. 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.440 You lost the game because you didn't win the game. 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.000 Had you won the game, you wouldn't have lost the game. 0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:56.600 John can you follow along? 0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:56.960 Look? 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.720 I have so many jokes based on that SoundBite with 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.879 Mike McDaniel, who I happen to like. 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.160 But my gosh, that's really tough. 0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:10.080 Anyway, Look these grades, Johnny, All right, let's say fourth 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:10.400 and ten. 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:11.280 You stop them? 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.800 Is it still a D right or does the grade 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:15.760 go up because you actually won the game. And I'm 0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.040 not blaming the loss on the defense. I mean, there's 0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.040 plenty of blame to go around. There is plenty to 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.280 assign in different areas. Obviously, if you make the stop 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:25.920 on fourth and ten, you win the football game, in 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.800 all likelihood, you still have to kill the clock. They 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.399 still have timeouts, still got to do those things. 0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:33.200 Yep. So who knows what happens. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.879 Maybe you miss a field goal, you know, who knows, 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:37.520 Maybe they block a field goal. 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.280 Maybe something happens weird. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.920 Because you can't just take knees because if you took 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.520 knees after you make that fourth and ten stop and 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.440 had you sacked him, he it was from the thirty 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.919 two or whatever. He's even deeper than that, obviously, So 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:51.800 emy's gonna make that. 0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:53.600 Yeah, he's gonna make that. You're gonna go up twenty 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.920 two to fourteen at that point. Now they've got no timeouts, 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.159 about a minute left, and they gotta go to length 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:02.520 of the field and score touchdown. 0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:05.400 And the two Yeah Texans did it against the Ravens 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.400 on Monday Night Football twice in the fourth quarter sixteen 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:09.480 points bang bang. 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.920 Speaking of the speaking of the fourth quarter. 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.200 This is what Bleacher Report said and why he ended 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:16.440 up getting the D. I want to see if you 0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:21.119 agree with this, Gabe. They talked earlier about the majority 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.480 of Hugh Stereo attack during Monday's contest with on short 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.600 quick passes with the receivers getting the majority of the 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:26.720 yardage after the catch. 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:28.879 I don't know about that really. 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.680 Yeah, I would love that to be the case. 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:32.960 Yeah, I don't not the majority, so to speak, but 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:34.800 I'd love that to be a lot of yak and 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:35.640 short passes. 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:37.960 Screen the Woody or I mean check down the Woody 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.520 screened Nick. Okay, that's fine, but he also hit X 0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.840 on that one. We'll have X later on. We'll talk 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.680 to him about this and held a touchdown, yep, touchdown 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.240 to Nico. So I don't know that I agree with that, 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:54.480 but they say this. Stroud's fourth quarter performance was disheartening. 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.200 With an opportunity to take a three point lead, the 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.520 third year quarterback missed Nico Collins in the corner of 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.840 the end zone on third down from the one yard line. 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:02.800 Okay, I got it. 0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:05.440 I got an issue with with with missing I got 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:08.440 an issue as opposed to First of all, there's a 0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.600 the coverage back there, as I am a column was 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.640 on Nico, like on Nico's hip, like in perfect position. 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:18.360 So the throw had to be absolutely perfect to. 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:22.439 Even have a chance, right, So I don't know that 0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:26.320 I agree with that per se. Then he says a 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.480 play later, Oh, he's talking about the corner of the 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:31.800 end zone. He's talking the first I'm sorry, he's talking 0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.040 with the first one. Nico in the back of the 0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:36.840 end zone. Again, a ball you gotta throw in the 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.439 back corner of the end zone, and I would, I mean, 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.959 that's a tough catch, but the ball did I mean, 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.560 Nico's trying to get his feet down, it's extended. I mean, 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.680 it's a tough catch. It's probably thrown in the only 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.480 spot it could have been thrown to be a touchdown. 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.639 Maybe on the third yard closer maybe, and it's a 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.840 catch maybe maybe. To me, that play looks like a 0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:00.920 play where you have a little more field to run 0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.280 under it, right. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.400 It looks like it. I don't know, But I don't 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:06.560 know is that the goal? 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:08.680 Is that a third and goal at the one play 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:10.240 or is that a better third and goal from the 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:10.760 eight play? 0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:12.840 I can go I think you're I think you're there 0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:13.360 on it or. 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.680 Even you know, farther upfield. 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:21.400 But the throw itself is and I think that they're 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.919 maybe holding CJ to a higher standard like the two throws, 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.720 because they say this a play later Strout Stroud airmail 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.480 they passed to Collins that didn't even give the offense 0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:31.440 a chance a fourth down. 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.600 I'm sorry. I think the play was the away as 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.080 it was, but he makes. 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.879 A point in that, Hey, it's fourth down if you 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.200 get if you get picked. 0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:43.520 Yeah, they could run it back, they could run it back. 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:47.640 I good call, But do you want to give somebody 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.200 a chance at a jump ball or something? Maybe that's 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:53.000 a play call thing. Look, it didn't work every Like 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.800 I said, plenty of blame to go around when you 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.880 don't execute. And you know what I always say about 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.560 play calling. If it works, you're a genius. If it 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:06.000 doesn't work, you're a bum. That's what the chorus says 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.359 people watching. But I get it, you know they feel 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.600 that way. They feel like we didn't execute, so mean 0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.280 think about it today, Think about it Sunday. 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:19.000 If DJ Jennson and Broncos stay six inches two left 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.520 away from the long snapper, Shane Stikeen is getting grilled 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.280 all week while he settled for a sixty yard field 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.119 goal but instead fifteen yard penalty moves it up. They 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.679 win twenty nine to twenty eight. Now Shane Stikeen is 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.080 the next best play caller ever. Daniel Jones is the greatest, 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:38.440 and away you go. It literally changes if he doesn't 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:39.480 hit the long snapper. 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.600 Let me ask you this, did the offense look better 0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.760 on Monday night than it did the previous Sunday? 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.720 I felt like it did. Yeah, I thought I felt 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:46.160 like it did. 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.720 And I know that this is nothing we want to 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.800 throw a parade about down You're right, nobody's printing shirts 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:56.000 making rings about that, believe me. But that is an 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.240 improvement from week one to week two. Now you got 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.720 to go to Week three and you playing in the 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:04.280 AFC South against the Jacksonville Jaguars, who played the Bengals 0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.120 well enough to win, but they didn't win. I mean 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.080 that's another one right there. Yeah, that's another one. What 0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.479 it could have should have They should have won that 0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.400 game and they didn't win that game. You pick off 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.600 Browning three times and he comes off the bench and 0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:18.600 does that, and you're still unable to win the football game. Yeah, 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.160 that is bizarre. Bengals didn't have the lead to late 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.640 in that game. It was what it was. You got 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.440 to live with it. On to two is not a 0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:27.080 death sentence. 0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:27.479 Anyway. 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.480 Back to the CJ. Stroud grade thing, I have a fit. 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:31.440 It's Barnwell doing this. 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:32.840 It's bleacher report. 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.480 Oh, bleacher report. I feel like this is based on 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.440 we thought he's going to be really good or at 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.960 least much better this. Yeah, I think there's an expect yeah, 0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:43.880 and it hasn't been where it needs to be. To me, 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.360 I'm not blaming it all on the absence of Christian Kirk, 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:48.920 but I'm thinking it's a big factor. 0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.160 Yeah, I think that plays a role. 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.000 Getting Kirk back is going to be big to this 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.600 passing game. Uh, getting healthier. I know no one wants 0:29:56.680 --> 0:30:00.680 to hear it. It's not excuses, it's reasons. And maybe 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.800 when they get a little more fortified, have a little 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.360 more time together with Nick Keley, maybe things get better. 0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.160 There's no guarantee, but maybe things get better. And I'm 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.120 hopeful and I want. 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:12.680 To see it. So see it. 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:17.560 You brought up one Trevor Lawrence, Yes, grade? 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:19.080 What was it? 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.200 Se minus? 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:20.920 Okay? 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:25.840 See c minus uh the Obviously, the big talking point 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:29.880 there was the interpersonal relationship between he and Liam Cohen. 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.040 Through two interceptions, three touchdowns through for two hundred and 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.000 seventy one yards twenty four forty two. Lawrence told reporters 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:40.040 after the game, coach is really passionate, which is something 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.600 that I've noticed ever since he's been here. 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.840 I love that about him, and we'll get fired up. 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.520 There's times, and I'm not always that way. 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.960 I'm kind of a little more like this, holding his 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.479 hands on a level line, but he's honestly brought a 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:53.920 little bit more of that out of me, which I 0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.880 think has been good for our offense. That said, as 0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.200 bleacher Report points out, coen Is have yet stop Lawrence 0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:04.240 from making poor decisions. Quarterback has stretches where he plays 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.440 really well, then it'll turn the ball over or make 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.440 a bad decision. Against the Bengals, he threw a pair 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:11.280 of interceptions, including one in the red zone. 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:12.840 In fact, I think it was right in the in the. 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:14.640 Enze in the end zone, and it was kind of 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.960 ridiculous looking. You never know what happens going into those things, 0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:21.040 but it looked very Trevor Lawrence at his worst. But 0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.400 He's made plays this year where he looks like Trevor 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.000 Lawrence at his best at times, and that's who he 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.640 is right now at home, they're gonna be all fired 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.479 up to beat the Texans. I'm more worried about Etn. 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.520 I've said that before, I'll say it again. But as 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.280 far as Trevor's grade goes, yeah, the two picks are 0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.959 a big blemish, huge in a loss where I mentioned 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.120 Brownie at three picks. But I feel like David Kelly 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:50.080 right now, Wait, it's you can't you can't wait, what 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.280 was it? You can't win when you get four turnovers 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.080 even if the other team turns it over five times. 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.200 Or something like that. I'm sorry, it wasn't that bad. 0:31:58.560 --> 0:31:59.840 It wasn't It wasn't that. 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:01.080 I don't remember. 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.440 I kind of knew where he was coming from, though, Like, yeah, 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.440 I know they're turning it over, but we are too, 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:06.400 and we're a mess. 0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:07.560 That was his point. 0:32:08.240 --> 0:32:10.320 Yeah, I know we kind of we won the turnover 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.520 margin in that game against the Dolphins, right, I. 0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.880 Believe we did. Oh God, yes, I believe we did. 0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.640 However, I understood his point that we're still a mess too, 0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:20.760 we're coughing it up all over the place. 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:21.280 That's right. 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:23.560 It's not like we're taking their turnovers and turning them 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.800 into gold. We turned it into another turnover. That's how 0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.000 we are. And yeah, so what we were plus one? 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:31.320 We're not that good at football team. See, I'm redoing 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:32.120 the speech for him. 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:32.440 Yeah. 0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:34.800 I would have been a great White House Press secretary 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.040 no matter who the party is, I could be your guy. 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:40.440 Yeah, you definitely could. 0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.920 Okay, this quarterback was twenty five of thirty eight for 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:49.040 two hundred and fifteen yards, two touchdowns, three carries for 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:53.320 thirty three yards, and a gutsy twelve yard escape on 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.920 fourth and ten, And that would be one Baker Mayfield 0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:58.960 against the Texans. 0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:01.120 They gave him a B plus. 0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.480 How what plus? They gave him a beat plus? Well, 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:06.440 that's just stupid. 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.560 If he's not an A, I don't know what is. 0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:09.200 I'm sorry. 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.880 That is a total eight performance. He got the crap 0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.760 knocked out of him all game long. He gets hurt, 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.520 gets up, talking smack, and that keeps the team going, Oh, 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.600 we gotta we gotta win this one. Yeah, he look 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:23.320 at him, Look at him. Look what he's putting his 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.360 body on the Okay, even on the scramble he got 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.480 tripped up. A lot of guys aren't getting up after that, 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.560 or they're getting up very gingerly scramble. 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.000 In which he kind of grabbed his foot or his 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:34.320 ankle at some point. Remember that. 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.160 Yeah, well, you guys are like, he's alright. CJ. 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:40.720 Gardner Johnson was standing near him, and apparently that's was 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.719 kind of barking at him and break Baker got up, 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:46.040 like huh, So they started getting each other's face. 0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.360 I think the Bucks love that. 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.320 I think they love that about it. The players doesn't 0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.280 love that about who does it? You know what I mean? 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:54.239 Love it about him. 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:55.800 Although when I was on with Sean had Set that 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:57.880 morning we were talking about Mayfield, I said, you know, 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.920 I think that the first impression of Baker to a 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.600 lot of people, or first impressions in college, they didn't 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:06.960 like him hotthead. 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.400 Look what he's doing at midfield. He's if you're. 0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:13.120 Not an ou guy tech before that, if you're not 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.160 one of those people, you don't like him. 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:16.120 Maybe right. 0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.960 I don't like shaking hands with Kansas, and Kansas doesn't 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.200 you know, I don't like it, doesn't shake his hand. 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.160 I think the likability was low. I think the longer 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.840 he plays like this, He's going to be beloved because 0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:28.880 he is so tough. 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:32.040 You want me to I think, I think tjb okay 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.120 with me telling a story. So TJ. 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.080 Reeves is my buddy, used to my sideline Carter part 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.520 with the Tampa Bay Bucks. He's been doing it for 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.239 a long time. He and Jean had been together for 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.040 a long time. Right, we had him on last week. 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.000 You did a great job interviewing him. He loved talking 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.480 to you. He had a blast. So he said, let 0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.919 me tell you about Baker. And so Baker's first year, 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:54.600 one year, four million bucks with the Bucks in twenty 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.359 twenty three, they get if you remember, they beat the 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.680 Eagles in the wildcard round. The Eagles kind of throwing 0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.719 a towel year and they were just garbage, and but 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:04.880 the Bucks kick the crap out of them. They go 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.879 to Detroit and they hang in there with Detroit all 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:10.800 the way to the end. They get the ball back 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.839 and late in the game Baker through interception to Derek 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.440 Barnes the gut punts loss. They lose, not going to 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:23.360 the NFC Championship game. Baker's distraught, and so TJ describes 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:26.640 it you know, in the Detroit locker room. Like he's 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:31.400 probably twenty yards away from Baker, right, and TJ is live, 0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:35.319 so I'm I record everything and I send it back 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.040 to you when I get because it's hard to get 0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:39.720 signal in the locker room, so they were getting a signal, 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.799 and so he does a live from the locker room 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:47.200 report literally live, which I'm like, holy smokes, that's tough. Anyways, 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.960 Baker is all the way down there and catch his 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.520 eyes with TJ and it's like I'm not bleeping doing 0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.120 it right now or something like that. You know, he 0:35:56.239 --> 0:36:00.279 just he got off this tough loss. So TJ's totally 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.320 understanding of that. Like, you know, players look at me 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:03.919 when I got the mic after a loss and they're 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.360 like they want to take the mic and beat me 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:05.719 with it. 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.640 Like I understand it. I totally get it. 0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.440 So TJ's like, okay, you know, kind of gets a 0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.799 handser like okay, it's all right. So he goes and 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.839 he gets a couple of players, He gets Todd Bowles 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:20.040 and he's he's with balls. He sees Baker come around 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:23.080 the corner coming towards him. He points at him. He's like, 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:29.080 you want me and TJ's like, I guess, yeah, absolutely, 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.160 and so he's like, coach, appreciate it, thank you very much. 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:36.880 Baker walks over to him gives him five seven minutes 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.640 live Wow. After all that, and apparently what had happened 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.400 was Baker in the locker room. Our buddy Nelson Luiz 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.480 is the PR directory, former GHOS PR director from a 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.000 Rocket's PR director, and he finds Nelson goes, hey, where's TJ. 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:51.839 I got to talk with him. 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.560 Oh, so he was reacting in the moment and now 0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:55.640 he wants to make it right. 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.759 And then he wanted to make it right him and 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:02.840 I was like, holy crap. That is that's That's the 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.759 kind of quarterback. He hasn't always got that impression from 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.960 him that there was more there than you know. He's 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.960 got kind of that slide talking trash, but behind it 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:15.560 it's an intense competitor, but he seems to care for everybody, 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:16.720 not only on the field. 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:18.680 The fact that he sought out TJ. 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:20.560 And I looked at TJ like, I've never had a 0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:22.560 player do that, Like I never had a player like 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.319 request to talk to me. Because he was like I've 0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.799 had coaches that have told me after the game to 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.680 get bent. I've had that players are usually pretty good. 0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:33.680 They don't want to do it, and I could tell 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.160 and I try and get a minute out of him 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.680 if they've lost all that. But the fact that Baker 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:39.880 that spends four or five minutes with him after he 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:41.760 gets wife, Yeah, I was like that. 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.280 That tells you a little bit about about Mayfield. 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.239 But he got a B plus according to this great 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.720 plus who did well Johnny and B plus. 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:49.920 Okay, I'm glad you asked. 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:55.680 There's a certain quarterback in our division, in our division, 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.520 in our division, Indiana Jones. 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.560 That's right. He ends up getting what do you think 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:02.919 he got? 0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.480 He got an A? He did? He got an A. 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:09.040 I think it's a minus he got. Don't want to 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.319 hand out those a's too easily. No, he got an A. Yeah, 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:12.759 you're right. 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.440 Daniel Jones twenty three of thirty four for three sixteen, 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.200 one passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown, all of this 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.120 against the Denver Broncos, like the Texans, a defense that 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.040 a lot of people thought was one of the top 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:29.560 five in the league. 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.440 Yeah, this is notable. Those are really pretty numbers for 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.759 Daniel Jones. I think it really helps when you have 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:41.120 Jonathan Taylor running at six point five yards per pop, 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.560 what for one hundred and sixty five yards? Yeah, Now 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.160 he did have a long run in this one, so 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.920 we got skewed numbers. Okay, but I'm not taking the 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.920 long run out. He had a sixty eight yard run 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:53.960 in this game. Yeah, all right, let's take it out. 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:56.400 He still gets one hundred. Basically, he still gets one 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.920 hundred one hundred on twenty four carries. That's big star 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.800 up right there. That's really helping your offense. That's grinding 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.799 the clock, that's grinding the chains. That's all of it. 0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:10.000 Daniel Jones capitalizing, You got down to your boy Downs 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:16.399 is playing well. Yeah, he's playing well. And Tyler Warren 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.880 is looking pretty good so far too. It's not earth shattering, 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.279 but it's really He's a rookie seventy nine yards in 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.799 this game against the Denver defense that's supposed to shut 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.359 people down. Oh, this team, watch out. They're gonna win 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:30.400 that division. They're gonna go to the super Bowl. This 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.480 is such a recency bias league Denver. If you weren't 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:38.560 into the Chiefs, Denver was a real sexy pick coming 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.400 into the season because your last memory of Denver was 0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:42.120 going to Buffalo. 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.279 Oh my gosh, that's gonna be hard. Everybody loses up there. 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.840 Your last memory of the Chargers is justin Herbert throwing 0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:50.520 four picks in this building in a season in which 0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:55.160 he only threw three all regular season long. So you're thinking, yeah, Denver, Denver, Denver, 0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.840 definitely this team, Sean Payton High. 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.400 Team, the SEMy Sweety team, Yeah, the. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.320 NF super hot with them, Peyton, It's gonna be great. 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.360 And they go to Indianapolis and yeah, they should have 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:08.120 won the game. They won a game, but they didn't 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:08.640 win the game. 0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.839 And I'm not saying Denver is a bad team by 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:15.960 any stretch, but it is noticeable. How notable how they 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:18.120 give up three hundred plus through the air and one 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:18.920 to sixty five. 0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.120 Of the ground to Jonathan Taylor. 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:22.759 I mean, that's really not exactly what they want to 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.359 be doing. Nope, So we'll see how it all plays out. 0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.799 But the Chargers are the super sexy team right after 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.360 beating the Raiders, and they beat the Chiefs in Brazil, 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.120 who are the Chiefs right now? Not really sure. They 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.080 don't look like who they were, looks like they're on 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.640 the way down. But I'm not gonna write them off. 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:39.160 They're rowing two and they're the freaking Chiefs. 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.000 Yeah, we're gonna get to them and their quarterback in 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:46.480 a second. Listen to this drive. Ten drives for the Colts. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.399 Want you to tell me what word is missing? Field goal, 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:55.640 field goal, touchdown downs, touchdown, end of half, field goal downs, 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:56.600 field goal, field. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.000 Goal, no punting, Rigbert does. 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:04.320 Sanchez has not punted this year. He's he's not punted 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.200 this year, maytag repair man dated reference. I'm just gonna 0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:12.160 say it anyway. Yeah, fourteen of seventeen offensive drives have 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.280 resulted in scores for the Colts. 0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:19.480 Yeah, it's looking pretty good right now with this group. 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.800 Now, do you remember the first two games. 0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:26.000 Of last year, Anthony Richardson. 0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.040 Clink Kubiak and the New Orleans Saints had just gone 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:29.680 into Dallas. 0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:31.200 Oh you're talking about and put up. 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.000 In forty burger. 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:34.240 Oh yeah, the Saints were going to the super Bowl. 0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:38.239 They had had two weeks of forty plus points, and 0:41:38.320 --> 0:41:40.520 by mid season it imploded. 0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:42.719 I was hapry for Kubiak, thinking, oh, he's gonna get 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:46.160 any job totally. It's gonna be big son as a 0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:46.760 head coach. 0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:50.239 Totally. So here's the other side of this. Listen to 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:57.040 the Broncos nine drives, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown, 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:03.920 punt interception, a mad one field goal. So it didn't 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.400 like the Colts are bringing the eighty five Bears to 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.360 the party either. No, that was a shot. That was 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.600 a shootout. Now, they played the Dolphins in the first one. 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.480 The Dolphins stunk and they do stink. But that Colts 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:20.480 defense is not It's lou Ana Roumo. It's a good defense. 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.239 He's a good defensive coordinator. It's not great. We got 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:26.640 to get our offensive house in order. But the Colts 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:30.120 face the Titans this week, so more than likely three 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.520 and zero. But we'll see what Daniel Jones does with 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.040 that one. But Daniel Jones a on his report card 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:43.839 against the Denver Broncos the hottest thing in America. All right, 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.360 you mentioned Mahomes, last one will do? 0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:45.680 Yep. 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:50.600 Mahomes against the Eagles sixteen of nineteen for one hundred 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:54.080 and eighty seven yards, a touchdown and a pick. Seven 0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.360 carries for sixty six yards and a touchdown. 0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:58.719 They lost. 0:42:58.760 --> 0:42:59.240 The Eagles. 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:04.920 Chiefs are also owed to Patrick Mahomes earned a C plus. 0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.399 I'm sorry, C minus, C minus the same as Trevor Lawrence. Now, 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:14.239 I do think that there is some expectation built in, 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.719 like with CJ. With Trevor, you kind of really don't 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.279 know Daniel Jones like anything he does at this point. 0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.000 I mean, look, he's been really, really good. But against Eagles, 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:28.200 Eagles have a good, good defense C minus For Patrick Mahomes. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:31.200 That running number stands out. And I watched a bit 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.239 of that game. He was running the ball. He was 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.200 and we've always talked about this, that's such a weapon 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:38.520 for him. Yep, He's going to it a lot more. 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:42.200 It feels like because he needs to. They don't have 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.080 the horses to catch the football that they used to 0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.480 and if they're not running it, well it's what else 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.960 are you gonna do? And Kelsey still makes plays. Kelsey 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:54.200 still out there. Did you see Taylor Swift and how 0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.600 they barricaded her and how they walked her from and 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:03.000 not they had this moving on wheels so people couldn't 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:04.520 take pictures, which is weird to me. 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.239 Oh do you think she's showing just kidding them? 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:08.320 Oh? 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:09.200 I went there. 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:14.439 Conspiracy theater Texans all access All right? 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.279 Is that gonna show up in our look around the 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.920 NFL next, it definitely is not showing up in the 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:22.440 injury report. We'll give you some thoughts on what we 0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:24.880 saw at practice and what the injury report looks like, 0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.400 and some news from the NFL. Is Taylor Swift pregnant? 0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:32.640 Ask Mark Vandermier. No, we're just kidding, just kidding, just kidding. 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:34.400 We got more next right here in Texans All Access. 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.280 All right, here we go Wednesday night initiative, Texans All Access. 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.200 I'm your host, John Harris, Football and outside of the 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:44.520 reporter for your Houston Texans, and we have reached that 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:48.320 point in the program. On a Wednesday, we got to 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.200 take a look at a god awful injury report. 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:57.239 But I will say it's improving. It's not great, but 0:44:57.320 --> 0:45:01.640 it's improving a little bit. Texans only had. 0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:07.200 One DMP today, unfortunately, that is Jalen Smith, the rookie 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.440 corner dealing with hamstring. Now, the fortunate part of that 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:15.440 is we've seen guys on this report, mainly Jake Andrews, 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:21.800 Braxton Barrios, Christian Kirk. They were all limited participants. Coach 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:26.359 at the mike, I think it's press conference. A couple 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.680 days ago, Tuesday. I'm trying to remember what day that was, 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.480 probably Tuesday. Said that Kirk and Barrios were at least 0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:34.560 on track. Seeing Jake Andrews get back out, there was 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:38.720 great news. Now will they play, don't know no idea 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.160 about that, but they were limited. 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.120 That was good news. 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:46.080 Now, if there is any bad news, if you will, 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.480 I mentioned Jalen Smith, the. 0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:50.160 DB's dealing with some things. 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:53.799 Kamari Lasser was a limited participant dealing with the knee. 0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.080 Jalen Petrie went out of that game Monday for a 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:59.120 little while deal with ribs, but he was able to 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:01.120 come back in the game and play the rest of 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.879 the game. Darryl Taylor with a hit. Those guys were 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.719 all limited participants. During the viewing, we saw all those 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.440 guys out there. So if there is some good news, 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.400 there is a little good news with that, but no 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:19.320 Jalen Smith at practice on Wednesday. On the other side, 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.960 a couple to keep an eye on. First one is 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:26.400 Ezra Cleveland, interior offensive lineman, dealing with the ankle. He 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:30.600 did not participate. Hunter long tight end, very athletic tight end. 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.600 Probably gonna fin Jacksonville, I think pretty well to be honest, 0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:38.560 he's dealing with an ankle. He did not participate limited participation. 0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.360 Jerry and Jones one of their corners that's want to 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.720 keep an eye on limited participation back bay Shall Teuton 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.120 shoulder now touton is a house of fire, Bud. He's 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:52.560 dealing with a little bit of his shoulder issues. He's 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:56.000 a limited participant as well full participants. About Terrek Brown 0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.520 and Brian Thomas Junior. Has been a lot of talk 0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:03.600 about Brian Thomas this week the game performance against Cincinnati, 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.360 and there was some that question whether Brian Thomas Junior 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.080 was wanting to go across the middle. Liam Cohen did 0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:12.560 not shoot that down. After the game. There's been a 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:15.560 lot of talk about, you know, hey, surrounding Brian and 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:17.360 being you know, bring him up. I'll tell you this 0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.600 if there is if any of that is true about 0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:22.200 not wanting to go across the middle, not wanting to 0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:22.840 do those things. 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.799 This defense that's in this building. 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:29.120 Is not the one you want to see because they 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:34.200 they could take swarm to a whole different level. But 0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.759 that is your injury report for Wednesday. Good news and 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.719 Kirk Barriers Andrews Andrews being back. Hopefully we can keep 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:47.319 Kamari and Jalen Darrow back on track and hopefully get 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.120 Jalen back as well, and try and get this injury 0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:52.160 report back where we'd like it. All right, we got 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:53.680 one our down, we got one our left to go, 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.960 and we're gonna kick that off with Jacksonville native Texans 0:47:57.000 --> 0:48:00.359 wide receiver Xavier Hutchinson, who jumped in studio with Mark 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:02.160 and I earlier today. We'll have that for you next 0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:04.440 the Texans All Access. We got one of our down, 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:05.880 want our left to go? Right here on a Wednesday, 0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.759 Nation of Texans All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.600 I'm your hoach, John Harris, Football and a sideline reporter. 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:17.640 Glad to be with you this evening, even more glad 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:22.400 to be joined by our next guest, a Jacksonville native 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.520 the Bartrip Trail High School, ended up going to Iowa 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.040 State now and it's thirty year with the Texans and 0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.800 continuing to get better and be more of an impactful 0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:31.720 player on this offense. 0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:33.960 Xavier Hutchinson. 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.400 We had a great, great time with X and I 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.239 played a little game with X at the very end. 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:42.200 You definitely want to stick around for that. Here's Xavier 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:43.160 Hutchinson with me. 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.880 And Mark with us in the Hunday Texans Radio studio. 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:48.080 Xavier Hutchinson, X, great to see. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:49.920 How's it going, Yes, sir, I'm doing good, man, I'm 0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:51.080 doing good. Can't complain it all. 0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.480 All right, So it's week three. We're going to Jacksonville. 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.879 We'll talk about what's happened so far. But you got 0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.120 to be excited you're going home to play a pro 0:48:58.160 --> 0:48:58.879 football game. 0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.759 Yeah, for sure, definitely excited. I mean, who ever thought, right? 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.640 You know, since I was you know, a child, man 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:06.560 dreams of playing in the Jackson Stadium and now you 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.520 know I get to go against him. Is great? 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:09.759 So old I am. 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.160 His school didn't even exist until my last year of 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.160 coaching Aaron Jackson though, Marcham Trail. Yeah, and I remember 0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.520 we always used to say, man, if they can get 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.960 some if they can get some schools down Saint John's County, WI, 0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:23.359 because all the time was Nice. Nice was the only 0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.640 one and the most famous graduate from Nice High School 0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:30.080 is Tim Yeah, all the way down in St. John's County. 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:31.480 In fact, he actually lived on the west side. But 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:37.040 it's home school formers. Yeah exactly. X. How's how's your 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:40.160 game coming together. Third year slowing down for you at all? 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:40.880 On the field? 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:44.680 Are you seeing things better earlier, quicker all that because 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:45.760 of your experience. 0:49:45.920 --> 0:49:48.600 I definitely think so. It's definitely slowing down for me. 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:51.480 You know, I'm just actually out there playing with confidence 0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.840 and really just you know, trying to make the plays 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.560 whenever they come to me. And you know, I've been 0:49:56.600 --> 0:49:58.080 able to so far. So I just got to keep 0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.480 it going and be consistent. But I'm really happy with 0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.000 how you know, my first two games have went. 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:05.239 Ye, what's practice like this time of year for you? 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.080 Because we see in training camp it's ones against ones 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.920 and a lot of matching up against the dbs that 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:13.560 are going to start the game for the Houston Texans. 0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:16.640 Very physical. How physical is it this time of year 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:18.759 now that you're in the regular season and you're going 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:20.480 up against the look team and things like that. 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.960 Yeah, it's definitely still competitive out there. You know, obviously 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.360 they probably you know, laid back a few when you 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.200 know the ball's up in the air or you know 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:30.719 it's like a you know, a fifty to fifty ball, 0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.560 but when it comes, you know, like any intermediate wrestler, 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:34.880 you know they're on your back and you got to 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:35.799 make a contest to catch. 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:36.840 You know. 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.360 I think that's one of the reasons why you know, 0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:41.279 our receivers has done so well, uh in years past, 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.279 is because how are we practice and how you know, 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:45.439 good the practice squad gives us. 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.759 Looks EXIT was watching a game back last night. I 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:51.000 want to once you walk me through if you don't mind, 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:54.399 you're running around. I think you're going from right from 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.000 their sideline to our sideline. But it looked like you 0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.040 were running a route in the middle. But then as 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:00.600 you looked in the middle, you kind of just kept 0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.840 going and CJ it was almost like CJ was giving you, like, 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:05.759 keep going without pointing at you. Can you take us 0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:08.279 through that that reception kind of what your responsibility was, 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:09.919 where you're supposed to go to, and how you guys 0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:11.120 linked up to make that reception. 0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.440 Yeah, actually I probably should have just kept it on 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.680 the outside of the defender. I should have never dived 0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.640 in as far as I did. Yeah. Uh so they 0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:21.120 got me there, but uh once, you know, once I 0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:23.880 dived in and he just shoved me and kind of 0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.400 I saw that the middle was collapsed. Uh you know, 0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:28.719 you can just feel you know grass, Yeah, you can 0:51:28.760 --> 0:51:31.520 just feel an open area and seven, you know, thought 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.600 the same thing, and really you know, just ran to 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:36.880 the open grass uh in seventh place to you know, 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:38.520 a great ball and you know we were able to 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:40.080 get a little nice little explose. 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:42.320 How much does that go on when you're supposed to 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.960 run this route but clearly you got to make an 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.279 adjustment like you did in the playoff game, a heck 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.640 of an adjustment. How does that go down for you 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.239 X when you're looking back into the backfield or how 0:51:52.280 --> 0:51:53.520 does that awareness play out? 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.719 Yeah? Uh, you know, I think some of it, you know, 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.880 it's just like a feel thing sometimes having you know 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.240 the same connection and communication you know, or I already 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.920 have like seeing it beforehand if a play breaks down. 0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:07.120 But some of it's really just like you know, just 0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.960 really scramble drill some of it. You know, once you 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:12.920 kind of you know, realize that your eternal clock has 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:14.920 gone off in your head, you kind of you know, 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:17.239 look back and you see maybe CJ running or maybe 0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:19.520 you see seven just standing in the pocket. You know, 0:52:19.560 --> 0:52:21.120 it's kind of you know, we have you know, our 0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.160 routine drills that we do really just kind of make 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:24.640 it happen. 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.720 You have played every wide receiver position on the field. 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:29.239 And I've said this to Mark, I've said it a 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:32.879 few times X the fact that at practice, even training 0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:36.240 can't practice. I always see you a sprint your position, 0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:39.759 but then you help everybody else get lined up. And 0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.680 I always say that because it's like, man, these receivers 0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.040 maybe not know what to do, but then they go 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:45.680 to your side. You're like, no, no, you're you're off 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:47.680 the ball, you're on the ball. No, you're here, you're wider. 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:49.399 Where where does that come from? 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:49.600 Max? 0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.000 That you you kind of know each and every wide 0:52:52.000 --> 0:52:53.840 receiver position like the back of your hand, that you 0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:55.080 can help everybody else out there. 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.160 Yeah. Uh, it took me a while to get there. 0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.360 I had some struggles in you know, my like my 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.319 first really my really my first year rookie year, like 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:06.279 just learning you know, the formations and everything. Second year 0:53:06.400 --> 0:53:08.719 kind of slowly started to click for me. And then 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.759 this thirty year just like like I said, just really 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:13.040 confidence and you know and just knowing everything and not 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:16.680 second guessing myself. And really it just kind of you know, 0:53:18.120 --> 0:53:21.080 Ben kind of you know, cous McDaniels, really, uh, you know, 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:24.080 you really tests me on knowing the positions. So you know, 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:25.680 I give a lot of credit to him on you know, 0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:27.279 you know, forcing me to you know, put my head 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:29.680 in the playbook and understand you know, the concepts and 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:30.440 our formations. 0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.719 Yep, Demiko Ryan says, the offense is really close, really 0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.360 close to breaking through. Obviously got it to the end 0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:38.200 zone a couple of times on Monday night that was 0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.240 much better than the game before. Looking for another step forward, 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.879 How close are you? How do you feel in that 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.080 department you're closer to getting to where you want to be. 0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.960 Yeah, I think we are. I mean I think you know, 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:51.840 Demico hit it on the head. To be honest with you, 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:54.479 We're very close. You know, it's just the minor things 0:53:54.520 --> 0:53:58.000 right now that we have to fix, you know, really 0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:00.000 just you know, trusting it in everybody, you know, trust 0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:04.400 every play and really just executing all the details and 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:06.440 you know, understanding that. You know, if we just do 0:54:06.480 --> 0:54:08.799 these one little thing that we missed, you know, it's 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:10.600 probably a different ball gaming. As you know, it's a 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:11.720 different outcome on the play. 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.640 You've got a couple of cyclone brethren in this, uh, 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:18.680 which I'm sure nobody out there knew that every time 0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.640 we talked about the receivers this year. We're like, Okay, 0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:23.319 well it's gonna be Christian and it's gonna be Nico 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.120 and the Cyclones. We always kind of talk about, you know, 0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:26.799 the three of you. How do you think the two 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:31.080 rookies have done Jed Uh, Jayala Nolan, jene Haiggins great. 0:54:31.239 --> 0:54:32.239 I think they've done great. 0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:32.680 Uh. 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.560 And you really just seen them progress, you know, from 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:36.799 training camp all the way until now. 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:37.399 Uh. 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:41.560 And you know it, everyone's time is different. Everyone's gonna 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.600 grasp things a little bit different, maybe faster or slower. 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:45.319 Uh. 0:54:45.360 --> 0:54:47.120 And you know, in their case, I think they're grasping 0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:50.040 things very fast, and I think they're playing with confidence. 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:51.480 And you know, I think that's the number one thing 0:54:51.520 --> 0:54:53.080 that you have to do as a rookie. You you 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:54.680 just have to go out there and play with confidence. 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.960 You know, you might make mistakes, nobody's perfect, but you know, 0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:59.520 as long as you just go out there, play fast 0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:01.879 and play with confidence, man, it's all going to figure 0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:02.399 yourself out. 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:05.600 All right, Let's do a little Iowa State commercial here here, 0:55:05.760 --> 0:55:08.560 because Matt Campbell has a heck of a program and 0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:10.959 in an era where a lot of people thought maybe 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:15.120 he would go somewhere else, he stays there. Jalen talked 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.960 about how important that was to him. What about you, 0:55:18.000 --> 0:55:19.960 What does it mean to you that he's still there 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.560 and the Cyclones to do it so well? 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:24.319 Yeah, I mean Coach Campbell was just a man of 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:27.919 his word. And you know, we have like a saying 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:31.479 in the Iowa stay you know, it's a forever, forever loyal, okay, 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.719 ever true, and I think you know he he embodies 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:38.960 that statement. And man, I'm just so happy for Coach 0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.200 Campbell to have you know, that that success. Now, even 0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:43.960 you know, with me being gone, you know, I'm still 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.759 happy to see all of the players there that you know, 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.760 are reaping the rewards of you know what other people 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:50.760 had to you know, lay down and you know, build 0:55:50.760 --> 0:55:53.000 the foundation for for that program. So to see it, 0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:55.600 you know, come to Fruition and still you know, not 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.160 even at the top of it yet it's great. 0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.520 It's great to see he loves you, man, I mean 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:03.360 there's no doubt like when I well, I went to 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.440 Big twel media days and I saw the SID and 0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.480 I just said, hey, you think Coach Campbell would talk 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:10.120 to me a couple of minutes about X and just 0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:11.759 kind of give us a background on it, and he goes, 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.320 oh absolutely. I was like, just let him do with 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:18.239 media scrum And we talked for two minutes on air, 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.520 and then he went for like ten minutes asking how 0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:22.520 you were doing, telling you that you know how much 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.319 you got. I mean to have a coach that you know, 0:56:24.480 --> 0:56:27.759 cares that much, I gotta imagine that means a lot 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.200 to the Iowa State guys as well. 0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:31.960 Yeah, it definitely does, man. And it just you know, 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.040 he always like said that, you know, it's bigger than 0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.040 football with him. Yeah, and you know, like that little 0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:38.200 instant right there proves it. 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:38.440 Man. 0:56:38.480 --> 0:56:40.239 So like it's just it's so much left for coach 0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:42.160 Campbell with so much respect for the man he is 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:45.279 the coach he is, and like just to know that 0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:47.080 I always have him in, you know, in my corner 0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:51.680 and he's always rooting for me. You know, it makes 0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:52.560 a difference in somebody. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:55.200 Yeah, I'm gonna move on from the Iowa State commercial 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:58.640 to the Jacksonville commercial as an area, not the Jaguars, 0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:00.839 but just as a place to be a place to live, 0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:01.879 a place to grow up. 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.120 What about Jacksonville? What makes it good? 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.480 Yeah? I mean, you know you can really get into 0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:07.200 anything you like. 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:07.560 Man. 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.160 Obviously you can go to Jacksonville downtown Jacksonville. Uh, you know, 0:57:12.200 --> 0:57:15.600 they'd be having a little farmers markets there and stuff. Obviously. 0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:19.520 You know Florida we have beaches, yeah, uh plus yep, yep. 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.160 And then you got like, you know the little beach 0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:22.600 restaurants that are on the side. 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:25.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know it's an Atlantic beach a lot. 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:26.960 There's that corner and I don't know what it is 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.000 a long time ago, they used to have like they 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:30.960 had a sun dog that had pete and then they 0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.200 had rag Time, which is a great rush, like right 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:34.840 there on the beach and you walk out and you're 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:35.760 right at the You've. 0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:37.800 Never been to these places. You never take me anywhere, 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.880 but we go. There a few close down oat. 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:42.080 You want to go, If you do want to go, 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:45.439 I'm pretty sure it's on the Flaggler a one a side. 0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.720 It's a burrito works. It's probably one of the best 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:48.640 at the UFO. 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:49.439 Yeah. 0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.880 Do you fish like the other cyclones? No, So you're 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:54.440 not gonna get involved with that composition. 0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:55.760 No, No, not at all. 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:57.920 But you know what he does do on Fieldhouse. You 0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:59.160 and I've talked about this a little bit. 0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.240 Let's put you. Okay, So they did this great thing. 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.400 Now it was you and I can't remember who who 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:06.760 you were doing it with, and I think you did NFL. 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.720 And they gave like a fantasy team rosters, a quarterback, 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.760 running back, two wide receivers, a tight end, and. 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:13.680 A current or all time. 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:14.919 It was all time, I think. 0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:19.880 And so they spin the spin the dial and then 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.600 he would have to pay, okay, like Cowboys, and okay, 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.280 I'm gonna take running back Ezekiel Elliott. 0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:28.160 And so you build build your team that way. So 0:58:29.080 --> 0:58:31.400 all right, how much do you know college football? You 0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:34.120 know pretty well? Yea, all right, here we go history 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:34.640 of you. 0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:37.440 Got a quarterback, a running back, a wide receiver to flex, 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.080 put anybody in a flex you want, okay, all right, 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:40.840 all right. 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.520 So you pick it. We're gonna start with Mark. 0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:44.760 Mark used to be the play by play man for 0:58:44.800 --> 0:58:47.880 the Miami Hurricanes. Give me your best Hurricane, and where you 0:58:47.880 --> 0:58:48.720 want to put him? 0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:53.520 Andre Johnson, just do it. 0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:55.720 Definitely Andre Johnson at the receiver spot. 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.640 Okay, Andre Johnson. Okay, Now Will's over there. 0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:01.400 He's a big or guy, Oregon guy. 0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:01.800 Yeah. 0:59:01.840 --> 0:59:04.040 So you have quarterback, running back or flex. 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.800 Give me, uh, give me the Anthony. 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:12.480 Uh Antony Thomas Thomas. Put him at the We'll put 0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:13.000 at the flex. 0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:16.600 Yeah, we'll put him at the Now we are in Houston, 0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.560 but we have three Iowa State cyclones, so we have 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:21.040 quarterback and running back left. 0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:23.320 So give me your Iowa state cyclone you want to 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:23.840 put in here? 0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:26.120 You know what, I'm actually gonna throw it like really 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:28.640 far back. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give a shout 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:29.880 out to Troy Davis. 0:59:30.000 --> 0:59:31.280 Okay, that's a great one. 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:32.840 Troy Davis is a good one. 0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:33.600 That's reaching back. 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:34.000 Yeah. 0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:34.400 Okay. 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:36.400 Now we're in the state of Texas. 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:43.080 Any state university Texas State University for your quarterback, so 0:59:43.120 --> 0:59:47.240 that's a and M Texas, Houston, Baylor, any State of 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:48.760 Texas quarterback you want to. 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.840 Put in and he's gonna be like so like who 0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:52.160 you want. 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:54.240 It can't be Drew Brees who played at Purdue. 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:56.640 No, he's got to be who played at Texas University, 0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.800 Vince Young, I mean man Johnny manziel On. 1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:02.120 Where there's a lot of good ones and I'm not 1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:04.480 even gonna lie to I'm thinking about a few right now. 1:00:04.640 --> 1:00:06.720 Almost feel disrespectful. Not to go. Vince Young. 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:10.040 Okay, okay, that's a Houston guy. Houston guy and University 1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:12.160 of Texas. All right, Andre will get over it. That 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:12.959 was a long time ago. 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:17.280 Vince Young, Troy Davis, Andre Johnson, the Anthony Thomas see, yeah, 1:00:17.280 --> 1:00:19.040 all right, very good, very well. 1:00:19.240 --> 1:00:19.439 Nice. 1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:23.360 I sprung that on you, so having to do that, 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:24.000 it's pretty tough. 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:26.280 So you definitely I appreciate that. I appreciate that. 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:27.760 You know, if you did that that well, I figured 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:28.320 you do this well. 1:00:28.440 --> 1:00:28.880 Very nice. 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.600 Xavier Hutchinson joining us, Thanks to left for being with us. 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:32.280 Good luck this week. 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:33.960 So I appreciate you. How man, Thank. 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:34.840 You appreciate that. 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:35.280 Young dude. 1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:35.440 Man. 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:37.720 He has some great things for this team, special teams, 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:40.680 wide receiver all over the field. Hopefully he will do 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.000 some of those in front of friends and family on 1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:45.800 Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1:00:45.800 --> 1:00:48.080 Speaking of the Jags, it's side for a man behind 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:48.480 the MICUs. 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.000 That's when Mark Vandermier, the voice of the Texans, sits 1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.320 down with a voice on the other side. It's one 1:00:53.360 --> 1:00:56.480 we know very very well, good friend of mine. Since 1:00:56.560 --> 1:00:59.760 the early nineties. He is the voice of the Jaguars. 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:03.480 Frank Frjie joins Mark Vaneruin next right here on Texans 1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:11.160 All Access. Welcome back to this Wednesday Nation of Texans 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:15.120 All Access from the hun Day Texans Radio Studio. Appreciate 1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:17.920 Xavier Hutchinson for stepping in studio today. I had a great, 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:20.640 great time talk with that young man. I was state 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:25.120 cyclone Bartram trail Bear. I think, like I told him 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:30.000 in the interview, his school opened my last year in Jacksonville, 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:32.479 and we knew they were gonna be good. And they've 1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:34.920 spit out some really good players and some great athletes, 1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:38.600 great people like Xavier Hutchinson. Now, a guy that has 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:43.400 been there for a long time, grew up there is 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:47.240 the face of Jacksonville media. I mean he was the 1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:51.520 guy when I lived there back in the nineties early 1:01:51.600 --> 1:01:52.560 two thousands. 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:55.720 If I ever need anything, I went to Frank Frangie. 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:57.800 Great media. 1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:01.400 I don't say for that's the wrong word to use, 1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:04.520 but when you say Jacksonville media, Frank Fraanjie is a 1:02:04.600 --> 1:02:07.760 name that comes to mind and just a salt of 1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:11.280 the earth person has been doing it for a very 1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:13.320 long time. Became the voice of the Jags back at 1:02:13.320 --> 1:02:14.360 twenty fourteen. 1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:15.120 I believe. 1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:17.479 I think it was the first year he took over 1:02:17.600 --> 1:02:20.040 as the voice of the Jaguars as I took over 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:22.240 as a silent reporter for the Texans. 1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:24.840 So this is always kind of a weird one in 1:02:24.880 --> 1:02:25.320 that too. 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:29.600 My very good friend Mark vandermir with Frank Franjie, guy 1:02:29.640 --> 1:02:33.000 I've known for very a very long time, sat down 1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:37.640 discussed this matchup that will take place Sunday in Duval County. 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:40.760 Joining us now in Texans Radio. It's Frank Frangie, friend 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:44.880 of the show, Frank the voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:47.200 Frank, how's it going with my friend Mark? 1:02:47.240 --> 1:02:48.840 I'm doing well. How are you? How are things in 1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:49.720 Houston these days? 1:02:49.760 --> 1:02:52.360 Well, you know, zero and two it's not that good, Frank, 1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:53.400 to be honest with you. 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:55.120 So we're looking forward to this one. 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:56.840 But I don't know if we should be looking forward 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:58.880 to it because the Jags look a whole lot better 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:01.680 And even though one and one and I know, very 1:03:01.680 --> 1:03:04.400 disappointing against the Bengals, you got to think they are 1:03:04.480 --> 1:03:05.160 better overall. 1:03:05.280 --> 1:03:06.400 Right, I don't think. 1:03:06.280 --> 1:03:09.479 There's any question. I think that one was as gut 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:12.960 wrenching Mark as any because the Jags out played the Bengals, 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:14.320 and you know me well enough to know that I 1:03:14.320 --> 1:03:16.720 wouldn't say that if it wasn't the case. The Bengals 1:03:16.760 --> 1:03:19.520 took their first lead in the game with eighteen seconds 1:03:19.600 --> 1:03:21.840 to play in the game. The Jags led the entire game. 1:03:21.880 --> 1:03:25.280 Burrow was out. The Jags just couldn't finish the job. Dropped, 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:28.840 a few passes, dropped the touchdown, had a tough pass 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:31.680 interference go against them on four and ten, and it 1:03:31.720 --> 1:03:33.479 was just one of those games. But the Jags still 1:03:33.520 --> 1:03:36.240 that they should be two to zero. They're better again, 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:38.600 I've said that before around here, and we'll see. But 1:03:38.920 --> 1:03:41.120 I feel better about this group, how they're all sort 1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:44.040 of pulling in the same direction, the plan they seem 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.960 to have. I do believe markets can improve Jacksonville team. 1:03:47.000 --> 1:03:47.360 I really do. 1:03:47.680 --> 1:03:47.840 Well. 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:49.760 I'm not going to start with Trevor Lawrence. I'm going 1:03:49.800 --> 1:03:54.200 to start with Travis Etn because it's highly noticeable how 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:57.880 he's really erupted. In the early going this season, Frank 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:00.680 and a lot of people thought, well, Bigsby's probably going 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:02.480 to be the guy. Now you might have thought differently, 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:05.160 but it seems like Etn has hit a stride finally, 1:04:05.240 --> 1:04:06.960 has he finally come into his own or is this 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:07.680 a renaissance? 1:04:07.720 --> 1:04:08.520 How do you define it? 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:11.520 Well, too, that's a big storyline. Mark, You're exactly right. 1:04:11.760 --> 1:04:15.680 Two pieces to that story. Number one. Yeah, everybody had 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:17.919 Etn run out of town. They thought Tank basically would 1:04:17.920 --> 1:04:21.440 be the more, the better downhill runner. Then they drafted 1:04:21.440 --> 1:04:23.280 two guys. They drafted Base Shall two and a really 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:25.520 good player out of Virginia Tech and lecquinn Allen out 1:04:25.560 --> 1:04:27.240 of Serious, both of whom made the team and both 1:04:27.240 --> 1:04:29.640 of whom are going to play. So you had four 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.000 guys in your running back room and everybody just assumed 1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:34.640 that the Etn would be the guy, the odd man out. Well, 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:37.920 say what happened? Etn took that seriously. Travis Etn came 1:04:37.920 --> 1:04:40.040 into the best shape of his life. He's the first 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:41.920 round draft pick. He played like it. He had a 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:44.640 great camp, he won the starting job, and he was 1:04:44.760 --> 1:04:46.640 very good in that first game, and all of a 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:49.479 sudden he's running back one and Tank basically gets traded 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:51.280 out of town. So Tank gets traded, you have room 1:04:51.320 --> 1:04:53.160 for four guys. He wanted to keep the two rookies. 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:56.600 So number one, to your point, Travis Etn did a 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:58.520 great job. The other part of that story, Mark is 1:04:58.520 --> 1:04:59.920 they want to run the ball. You know, a lot 1:05:00.120 --> 1:05:02.080 coaches say we're going to run the ball, but they 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:04.960 don't really run the ball. Right, this group said they 1:05:04.960 --> 1:05:07.080 want to run the ball. Liam Cohen said it from 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:08.960 day one. You know, you and I have done this 1:05:09.040 --> 1:05:11.920 long enough. Everybody can run around first and ten. If 1:05:11.920 --> 1:05:13.720 you run it again on second and nine, that means 1:05:13.720 --> 1:05:15.440 you're committed to running it. And I think that's what 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.880 this group is. The two storylines. Travis came in great shape, 1:05:18.920 --> 1:05:22.040 won the job, looks great and this offense under Liam 1:05:22.080 --> 1:05:23.880 Cohen looks like it's committed to running the football. And 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:24.560 that's what we've seen. 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:28.280 Okay, So Trevor Lawrence, so far, what are you thinking here? 1:05:28.320 --> 1:05:29.400 Of the progress? 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:33.040 I see progress. He's made a few mistakes he can't make, 1:05:33.800 --> 1:05:37.560 but I think he's played better. He's threw three touchdowns 1:05:37.640 --> 1:05:38.960 last week and he had I don't know if you 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:41.520 saw Dianmi Brown dropped on right in the end. Okay, 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:43.640 just a flat out drop which would have been the 1:05:43.640 --> 1:05:46.920 fourth touchdown path Brian Thomas Jr. On fourth down and 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:48.640 five at the end of the game, just flat out 1:05:48.680 --> 1:05:51.040 dropped the ball the five yard line. There are around 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:52.720 the four yard line would have been a first down. 1:05:53.040 --> 1:05:55.800 So the drops really hurt him. But Trevor's growing up. Mark. 1:05:55.880 --> 1:05:57.720 You can sense it, you can see it, you can 1:05:57.760 --> 1:06:01.160 seal it. He likes this offense. He thinks he's committed 1:06:01.160 --> 1:06:03.760 to it. It's a play action offense. It starts with 1:06:03.800 --> 1:06:05.600 the running games. And he's played better. Again's on him 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:08.360 in two games, right, so it's hard to learn too 1:06:08.440 --> 1:06:10.680 much or determine too much up to two games. But 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:14.120 he's played pretty well and he looks comfortable. He looks 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:17.960 I've called every game he's ever played. He looks comfortable, 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:19.959 as comfortable as I've seen him look. 1:06:20.560 --> 1:06:23.840 Frank Nick Cassario told us he thinks Seric Murray's doing 1:06:23.880 --> 1:06:25.840 pretty well for the Jaguars. Might be a bit of 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.200 a difference maker. Not like he's going to the Pro 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:30.600 Bowl or anything, but he's as steady as she goes. 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.040 Kind of guy at safety, a veteran who can make 1:06:33.080 --> 1:06:33.640 things happen. 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:36.920 How to pick last week? What about Murray for that defense? 1:06:37.520 --> 1:06:39.720 He's been very good. The first week he made a 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.160 diving deflection, I mean a terrific play, and then Foyer 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:45.640 Luka dove and picked the ball off. So Eric really 1:06:45.640 --> 1:06:48.440 caused that play and then he intercepted the pass last week. 1:06:48.480 --> 1:06:51.160 So who really he's credited with two He should be 1:06:51.200 --> 1:06:54.200 credited with two interceptions, right, there's not a football doesn't 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:57.000 have an assist for an interception, right, But he made 1:06:57.040 --> 1:06:59.320 the one interception happen the week with the first week 1:06:59.680 --> 1:07:01.800 and then second week, he's played well, Mark, he knows 1:07:02.160 --> 1:07:04.640 they needed better. The two veteran secondary guys that they 1:07:04.760 --> 1:07:08.520 brought in, Eric Murray from Houston and Jordan Lewis from Dallas, 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:11.360 they know how to play. Eric Murray's been very good. 1:07:11.600 --> 1:07:14.280 They need. You need guys in the secondary in today's 1:07:14.360 --> 1:07:16.120 day and age is the passing games the way they 1:07:16.160 --> 1:07:18.080 are that know how to play. Eric's gonna be a 1:07:18.080 --> 1:07:19.760 good Jaguary. He's really going to help the cause here. 1:07:19.960 --> 1:07:21.400 There's no doubt in my mind. So I think NX 1:07:21.520 --> 1:07:23.600 reid on that is one hundred percent right. I think 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:24.640 he's played very well. 1:07:24.640 --> 1:07:27.080 Frank, what about the guys up front? Everybody raves about 1:07:27.160 --> 1:07:31.360 heinz Allen and Walker another sack last week. He's really 1:07:31.360 --> 1:07:33.840 started to produce in the sack category, which got him 1:07:33.960 --> 1:07:36.360 a lot of notice last year. Tell me about them, 1:07:36.360 --> 1:07:37.400 Tell me about that front. 1:07:37.720 --> 1:07:40.120 The ends are good. The ends have played well. Josh 1:07:40.200 --> 1:07:42.560 Heines Allen gets a lot of attention. He gets chipped 1:07:42.600 --> 1:07:44.600 a lot. He gets chipped like one of the good 1:07:44.600 --> 1:07:46.320 pass rushers in the league. And you know this because 1:07:46.320 --> 1:07:48.560 you've got two very good ones. But he gets chipped 1:07:48.560 --> 1:07:50.880 a lot. Mark, he gets double teamed in the tight end, 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:54.080 stays in. But he's played well. Trayvon was fantastic class 1:07:54.080 --> 1:07:56.800 with hadda sack and was very very disruptive. So those 1:07:56.800 --> 1:07:59.280 two ends are a very good, very good player. Dwan 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:01.240 Smooth comes off the bench and is a very good 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:03.680 third end. So they are very good. In the tackles. 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:06.080 How they need to play better. The tackles have been okay. 1:08:06.520 --> 1:08:08.800 That was one position going into the season that they 1:08:08.840 --> 1:08:12.040 were concerned about is with the tackles held up. Eric 1:08:12.120 --> 1:08:15.200 Armstead played better last week, the veteran Devon Hamilton. The 1:08:15.240 --> 1:08:17.599 nose guard is up and down, and they've got some 1:08:17.640 --> 1:08:20.839 young tackles behind those guys. So I think the tackles 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:23.240 that's going to be the question. The interior of that, 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:25.840 the defensive line mark will be the question with this 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:28.479 football team. The ends, as you know are very good 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:30.920 even the backup end and Duwan Smooth is very good. 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:33.320 The tackles have to play well. That was a big question. Also, 1:08:33.439 --> 1:08:38.679 Cam is how the Jags weren't physical enough? Man, They 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:40.679 have to be more physical. It's a point of impact 1:08:40.720 --> 1:08:43.400 and it looks like they've made incremental strides there. It 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:43.920 really does. 1:08:44.360 --> 1:08:46.920 Frank, I'm going to ask your assessment of a Texans player, 1:08:46.960 --> 1:08:49.719 Frank Franchie, Voice of the Jaguars with us Christian Kirk, 1:08:49.760 --> 1:08:52.360 when he does get out on the field eventually, what 1:08:52.439 --> 1:08:54.799 kind of difference can he make for the Houston Texans? 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:56.080 What do you think they get with Kirk? 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:59.439 He was a gigantic difference maker here, great guy in 1:08:59.479 --> 1:09:01.920 the locker, he got the Good Guy Award for the 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:05.280 easiest guy to deal with. Terrific player, a slot receiver. 1:09:05.360 --> 1:09:08.320 Hey story. He came here three years ago and they 1:09:09.200 --> 1:09:12.559 won the division, won a playoff game, lost to the Chiefs. 1:09:12.680 --> 1:09:14.519 Made sort of the elite eight of the league. Right 1:09:15.000 --> 1:09:18.519 and in his first year. The next year they start 1:09:18.600 --> 1:09:20.960 eight and three. Mark, they start eight and three, they're 1:09:20.960 --> 1:09:23.040 playing Cincinnati. Looked like they're going to ease into a 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:25.920 back to back division title. Christian got hurt in that 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:28.280 game against Cincinnati. He got hurt for the year, they 1:09:28.360 --> 1:09:31.080 lost him for the year. They lost that game, and 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:33.120 that was one of five out of six they lost, 1:09:33.479 --> 1:09:35.920 missed the playoffs, and then last year never refounded. So 1:09:36.439 --> 1:09:39.479 the collapse of the Jaguars under Doug Peterson that looks 1:09:39.520 --> 1:09:42.679 so good in the middle of his tenure here started 1:09:42.680 --> 1:09:44.559 when Christian Kirk got hurt. I'm telling you it started 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:45.920 when he got hurt. Now I'm not saying that's all 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:48.439 that happened, but that was a big blow. He's a leader, 1:09:48.720 --> 1:09:50.960 he catches everything. He's a slot guy. He's not on 1:09:51.000 --> 1:09:53.800 an outside guy's going to run by people. He's a pro. 1:09:54.120 --> 1:09:56.400 Christian Kirk is You're gonna love Christian Kirk. He probably 1:09:56.400 --> 1:09:58.760 already met him, right, I'm sure you've been around it. Yeah, 1:09:58.880 --> 1:10:00.479 fans are gonna love it. Mark. He is a pro, 1:10:00.720 --> 1:10:03.720 the pros pro. And I think that's a great gift 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:05.200 for the Houston Texans. I really do. 1:10:05.400 --> 1:10:06.360 Now, great interview. 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:09.320 I talked to him right after joint practice with the Lions, 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:11.559 and then he didn't play in that final preseason game. 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:14.680 Then he hurts his hamstring right before the opener at 1:10:14.680 --> 1:10:18.200 some point, and absolutely need him on the field. Frank, 1:10:18.600 --> 1:10:21.280 what's the vibe like in Jacksonville right now going into 1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:24.559 this game Jags and Texans. We meet again in the 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:26.960 AFC South. Here we go, we have some time before 1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:29.080 the game. But what is the feeling in North Florida 1:10:29.080 --> 1:10:29.759 about this one? 1:10:30.160 --> 1:10:32.520 Well, that's a great question. There's a lot of storylines 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:36.479 here all right in the fan base. Number one, forget 1:10:36.479 --> 1:10:38.639 the Texans for a second. The fans want to believe 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:40.599 this is real, you know what I mean, Mark. They 1:10:40.640 --> 1:10:44.760 want to believe that the Jags are improved, that it's 1:10:44.800 --> 1:10:47.720 not the same old Samuel Jags fans really want to 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:49.840 Like all fans, all fans want to believe that right 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:51.640 when you turn the corner, because you guys have done 1:10:51.680 --> 1:10:54.360 in recent years. Fans want to believe it's real. So 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.800 I think there's some belief it might be real. I 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:59.400 think there's certainly some sign there's some evidence out there, 1:10:59.400 --> 1:11:02.120 but you and you've got to make yourself believe it's real. 1:11:02.560 --> 1:11:05.439 So I think there's there's there's some hesitation, but I 1:11:05.439 --> 1:11:08.879 think there's some cautious optimism. The Texans game is gigantic. 1:11:08.920 --> 1:11:11.240 Houston's won ten of the last eleven times they've been 1:11:11.280 --> 1:11:13.519 in this stadium. That's hard to believe than an opponent 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:15.559 had been ten out of eleven times in this stadium. 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:18.240 If they ask has had their way with Jackson, we 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:20.080 all know that your team has had their way with 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:23.160 a jack And look, the team isn't talking about it, 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:25.880 and I've plawed them not but the but the big 1:11:25.960 --> 1:11:27.800 hit on Trevor Lawrence that knocked him out for the 1:11:27.840 --> 1:11:30.439 season is still something everybody in the fan base is 1:11:30.439 --> 1:11:33.360 talking about. That. To suggest that that story went away 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:37.320 is inaccurate the story at least, and again, the team 1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:38.920 has been very careful to teach that we're not worried 1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:41.040 about anything happened last year. We're trying to get ready 1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:42.720 for this year. But I can promise you in the 1:11:42.720 --> 1:11:45.200 fan base, that hit on Trevor Lawrence is still being 1:11:45.240 --> 1:11:48.680 talked about. So for that reason, it's it's got a 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:51.400 lot of storylines. Here's the other storyline. The Texans, who 1:11:51.400 --> 1:11:53.360 have been the Krem de la Krem of the division, 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:55.479 are looking at O with three if they lose the game. 1:11:55.520 --> 1:11:57.640 I know you've been talking about that. So it's a 1:11:57.720 --> 1:12:00.280 gigantic game. A sense of urgency for the Texans and 1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:02.040 the Jags have a chance to start two to one 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:03.439 for the first time in the long time, you know, 1:12:03.520 --> 1:12:05.880 last the Jags have not been two and oh since 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:09.040 twenty eighteen mark, and they're not again this year too. 1:12:09.080 --> 1:12:11.240 So it's a big game on so many fronts, and 1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:13.000 I don't think that's been lost here. I think the 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:14.479 fan base certainly is talking about that. 1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:18.000 Well, we have this next thing in common concern that 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:20.639 the Colts are jumping off to a two and oho start. 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:23.200 They look pretty good. What are your thoughts on the horseshoe? 1:12:23.560 --> 1:12:26.360 They do look good. I think they The Colts have 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:29.519 played so many different quarterbacks. For all everything Andrew Luck 1:12:29.560 --> 1:12:31.400 was gone, They've played every quarterback in the league. I 1:12:31.439 --> 1:12:34.320 think's made his way to Indianapolis. They made the right 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:37.080 decision with Daniel Jones to go get him, to have 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:39.559 him compete with Antheya Richardson, and to have him beat 1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:41.880 him out. They were very good in the first week. 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:44.479 Last week was weird. I don't know that I've seen 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:48.000 a game end like that, Mark that the guy misses 1:12:48.000 --> 1:12:51.000 the kick and the Broncos win on the with no 1:12:51.080 --> 1:12:53.320 time left on the clock. But then they get caught 1:12:53.320 --> 1:12:54.760 and you know what, happened, they get called for the 1:12:54.840 --> 1:12:57.519 leverage penalty, and the Colts get another chance and they 1:12:57.520 --> 1:12:59.800 make it. I think the culture leaks to your question, though, 1:13:00.200 --> 1:13:03.280 I think the culture legit. I think the Titans are 1:13:03.280 --> 1:13:06.000 a little behind, but I think the other three teams 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:08.760 in this division are all pretty good and are all 1:13:08.760 --> 1:13:11.040 pretty close. Do you see it that way? I think 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:14.120 those three teams are somewhat even. I think it's going 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:15.479 to be and again I'm not trying to write off 1:13:15.520 --> 1:13:17.360 the Titans yet, but I think they're a little further behind. 1:13:17.400 --> 1:13:19.960 They've got a first year quarterbacks. But I think the 1:13:20.000 --> 1:13:21.439 other three teams, I think it's going to be a 1:13:21.479 --> 1:13:23.400 heck of about. It starts this week obviously that our 1:13:23.439 --> 1:13:25.000 two teams, but I think it's going to be a 1:13:25.040 --> 1:13:26.920 heck of a battle in the division. That's how I 1:13:26.920 --> 1:13:28.120 see those top three teams. 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:30.800 I think it is close. I think I knew the 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:33.720 Texans were going to have it tough with these two 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:36.400 teams to open up the season with at the Rams 1:13:36.400 --> 1:13:39.400 and home against the Buccaneers, and it was even tougher 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:42.320 than I thought. But they're close losses one point five points, 1:13:42.320 --> 1:13:43.960 but you know, they don't give you anything in this league. 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:46.120 For that, I think a lot of the league is 1:13:46.240 --> 1:13:48.760 like that, with these one score games, so not much 1:13:48.800 --> 1:13:51.080 you can do anything else jumping out to you about 1:13:51.080 --> 1:13:54.799 the AFC. Maybe Chiefs so and two the Bills start. 1:13:55.200 --> 1:13:57.840 Anything else, Frank, that is notable to you about the 1:13:57.880 --> 1:13:59.479 AFC or the NFL at large. 1:14:00.000 --> 1:14:03.760 I think AFC the one thing that grabbed me other 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:05.679 than the normal. So the Chiefs are going to be fine. 1:14:05.680 --> 1:14:08.320 The Chiefs have a good team. We all know the 1:14:08.400 --> 1:14:10.280 Chiefs are. If they're not going to be there in 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:12.559 the end, they're going to be close. The Ravens are 1:14:12.560 --> 1:14:15.080 really good. The Bills are emerging. This might be the 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.519 year of the Bills. The one thing that jumped off 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:19.559 the chart for me or off the page for me, Marcus, 1:14:19.600 --> 1:14:21.679 I think the Chargers might be legit. He's a really 1:14:21.680 --> 1:14:24.559 good coach. He won a national championship in college. He's 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:28.200 been to a Super Bowl. He's tough. I know a player, 1:14:28.320 --> 1:14:30.040 I personally know a guy that played for him to 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.960 chart with his Chargers team, and he said, you can't 1:14:33.000 --> 1:14:35.840 imagine how physical the practices are, how they bumped right 1:14:35.880 --> 1:14:38.600 up against the edge of what's allowed. And when he 1:14:38.720 --> 1:14:41.240 makes them tougher, he makes him a running team that 1:14:41.320 --> 1:14:44.479 makes Justin Herbert better. It's clear Justin Herbert is developing. 1:14:44.960 --> 1:14:47.519 So if there's one thing about the AFC more than 1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:50.400 anything else that's grabbed me as no, boy, the Chargers, 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:52.000 which have been they've been a tease right for the 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:54.640 last handful of years. Everything is Justin Herbert got there. 1:14:54.640 --> 1:14:56.200 They looked like they were they could be the teams 1:14:56.200 --> 1:14:58.640 that emerges, but they never do. Boy, I think they 1:14:58.720 --> 1:15:01.559 might be year. I'm very impressed with the La Chargers. 1:15:01.560 --> 1:15:03.720 I think that's probably first and foremost for me of 1:15:03.840 --> 1:15:04.639 things in the AFC. 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:07.400 Frank Frazie, Voice of the Jaguars with us a couple 1:15:07.439 --> 1:15:09.760 of quick ones on the way out here. Frank, I 1:15:09.840 --> 1:15:11.519 know you do the talk show. You talk a lot 1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:13.760 of college football. The Gators are going to be at 1:15:14.000 --> 1:15:18.639 Mike Canes this weekend. Thoughts on this matchup, the rise 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:21.040 of the Hurricanes is at real, and what is going 1:15:21.040 --> 1:15:22.240 on with the Gators in general? 1:15:22.720 --> 1:15:26.000 Well, first of all, the Mark vandermir Kaines are good. Okay, 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:29.400 they're I mean they're like legit, legit. Carson Beck who's 1:15:29.400 --> 1:15:31.439 the jack and guy and no Carson I know his family. 1:15:31.880 --> 1:15:32.720 He's good. 1:15:32.760 --> 1:15:32.920 Now. 1:15:33.000 --> 1:15:35.599 I mean, he's worth all those millions they paid him 1:15:35.600 --> 1:15:37.640 to come down there, and I think that I think 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:39.960 they're more physical than they've been. This looks to me 1:15:40.800 --> 1:15:43.439 like the best Miami team since early two thousand and 1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:45.439 We'll see if it plays out that way. Last year 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:48.240 they were great on offense, that's flawed on defense. You 1:15:48.400 --> 1:15:50.120 and I know you know this because you follow them. 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:52.400 They've had two ten wins seasons in twenty five years. 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:54.080 I mean there are twenty four years. Ever since the 1:15:54.080 --> 1:15:56.080 two thousand and two teams. They haven't been a great 1:15:56.200 --> 1:15:58.200 elite team. I think they might be now. The Gators 1:15:58.200 --> 1:16:00.640 are a mess. DJ Lagway is as they're going to 1:16:00.680 --> 1:16:03.320 fire the coach. I think. I think Miami beats them 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:05.720 by double digits. They start one to three, they get 1:16:05.720 --> 1:16:07.760 an awful then they get Texas in that here's what 1:16:07.760 --> 1:16:09.880 they get next, Texas, and then at A and M 1:16:09.960 --> 1:16:12.840 and then after that they get Georgia. So it's going 1:16:12.880 --> 1:16:14.840 to be a disastrous season for the Gators, which is 1:16:14.840 --> 1:16:16.880 a surprise. I thought they'd be better than that. But 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:19.719 Miami's pretty good. Mark, you'd be proud of your canes 1:16:19.760 --> 1:16:22.160 down here there. They're legit, legit, They really. 1:16:22.000 --> 1:16:23.920 Are thoughts off Florida State. 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:28.280 You know what a crazy turn. They're really good. Two 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:29.800 years in a row they went third. They go thirteen 1:16:29.840 --> 1:16:31.360 to others and the quarterback gets third and then everybody 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:34.280 could sloop them. Last year, they're a disaster. They're two 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:36.439 and ten, one of the worst teams in the country. 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:39.519 I give him credit. He fired his offensive coordinator, fired 1:16:39.520 --> 1:16:41.599 his defensive coordinator, fired half his coach, and ran off 1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:44.200 hafits players. They went and got twenty some players in 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:46.639 the portal, Gus Miles on to run the offense, Tony 1:16:46.640 --> 1:16:48.639 White to run the defense. All of a sudden, they're 1:16:48.640 --> 1:16:50.280 good again. Do you realize this? Do you really think 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:54.080 about this? Of their twenty two starting players, that's the 1:16:54.120 --> 1:16:57.040 twenty two players that started the Florida the start of 1:16:57.040 --> 1:17:00.840 the Alabama game seventeen did not to start their careers 1:17:00.880 --> 1:17:02.559 at Florida State. Now, I want you to think about 1:17:02.560 --> 1:17:04.719 that for a second. Mark, Well, the twenty two players 1:17:04.720 --> 1:17:09.960 that started that game against Alabama seventeen began their college 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:13.080 careers at another university. Isn't that amazing the world we're 1:17:13.080 --> 1:17:15.080 in now? But that's what these guys do. They go 1:17:15.120 --> 1:17:17.519 out and get Remember these portal guys are twenty two 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:20.040 and twenty three years old. So these twenty two year 1:17:20.040 --> 1:17:22.960 olds are playing against high school, college freshman and sophomoorrees 1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.519 and that's many difference. I think. I think they're pretty good. 1:17:25.920 --> 1:17:29.120 And the schedule softens up on October fourth, it's Miami 1:17:29.200 --> 1:17:30.760 and FSU. It might be like the old age, it 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:32.280 might be a really good Miami. 1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:32.920 Man. 1:17:33.280 --> 1:17:35.880 I can't believe it's seventeen new guys shows me that 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:38.400 foot locker is open for business in Tallahasse. 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:42.880 Yeah, okay, Frank, I love that. Thanks so much that along. 1:17:42.960 --> 1:17:45.400 Ah, My tell a man, friends don't appreciate that. 1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:47.880 Yeah, go ahead, pass that along your program. All right, 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:49.800 look forward to seeing you on Sunday, my friend, thanks 1:17:49.840 --> 1:17:50.519 a lot for the time. 1:17:50.840 --> 1:17:51.880 Okay, Mark, good to catch that. 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:57.720 Tak care Okay, So Frank Sigator and Mark Sekine. So 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:00.519 if they're going to take shots, it's gonna be at 1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:05.479 Florida State. Although Gators and Canes they don't get along. 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.679 You'll see that this weekend. They do not get along. 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.080 Goes back to the seventies thing they got all. There's 1:18:11.200 --> 1:18:16.120 respect with Florida State, Miami, there's respect with FORLID State Florida. 1:18:16.479 --> 1:18:21.920 There is hatred between Miami and Florida, unless well, Frank 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:25.320 and Mark get together. Now markedn go to Miami, but 1:18:25.560 --> 1:18:28.719 he definitely bleeds Kynes because of his time there calling 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:32.320 games back in the late nineteen nineties in the early 1:18:32.360 --> 1:18:35.400 two thousands, So he definitely bleeds Knes. And that's gonna 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:37.880 be a good one this weekend. Canes and Gators. But 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:41.880 Mark taking the shot about foot Locker University of Florida 1:18:41.960 --> 1:18:45.240 State of course. Of course Mark was gonna take a 1:18:45.280 --> 1:18:51.200 shot at the Seminoles, even though, like I said, he 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:52.920 has more of a hatred for the Gators. 1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:54.160 But good stuff they're from. 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.960 Frank and this is an interesting one from the standpoint 1:18:57.040 --> 1:19:00.400 of Christian Kirk going back to Duval County, Eric Murray 1:19:00.400 --> 1:19:02.880 playing against the Texans. So a little bit of kind 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:06.479 of swappage on both sides is gonna make this one 1:19:06.560 --> 1:19:09.880 quite quite interesting on Sunday, There's no question about that. 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:10.280 Now. 1:19:10.640 --> 1:19:12.519 The particulars that will be in this game. 1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:13.439 C J. 1:19:13.600 --> 1:19:17.479 Stroud, Dimiko Ryans, even Liam Cohen all we're at the 1:19:17.520 --> 1:19:20.719 mic this week, so let's do a little Texans audio 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:24.840 juke box next. Hearing from those three in particular right 1:19:24.840 --> 1:19:28.040 here in Texans All Access staping. Everybody, Welcome back to 1:19:28.080 --> 1:19:31.360 this final segment of Texans All Access. 1:19:30.880 --> 1:19:35.519 For this wonderful, wonderful Wednesday evening. I'm your host, John Harris. 1:19:35.560 --> 1:19:39.960 Foot play on the sideline Reporter for your Houston Texans taper, 1:19:40.040 --> 1:19:44.120 Little Texans Audio juke box. Before we close it down 1:19:44.479 --> 1:19:46.680 and turn it over to Area forty five. I was 1:19:46.720 --> 1:19:51.880 wonderful Wednesday, wherever you are. So a couple of Texans 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:55.280 spoke today. A couple of Jaguars had things to say 1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:56.960 as well, so we'll play a little bit of that 1:19:57.040 --> 1:20:00.800 as well. But let's start with Demico Ryan and as 1:20:00.800 --> 1:20:04.040 I mentioned earlier, injury report looks a little better because 1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:07.360 you got Christian Kirk, Braxton, Barrios, Jake Andrews back in 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:11.160 a limited capacity. Here's Coach when asked about his injured 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:11.960 guys coming back. 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:16.000 That's good to get our guys back, you know, getting Christian, 1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:18.840 bag Barrios, Jake is good to see them back out 1:20:18.840 --> 1:20:21.280 at practice today. Will continue to see how the week 1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:23.920 goes for them, but is encouraging to see them out 1:20:23.920 --> 1:20:26.599 there today working. Hopefully they can help us on Sunday. 1:20:27.200 --> 1:20:29.920 All for it, getting as many guys back as possible. 1:20:29.960 --> 1:20:32.960 As I mentioned, Jalen Smith did not practice due to hamstring, 1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:38.200 but Barrios, Andrews and Kirk back at practice today. 1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:40.559 That was great. Now Kirk used to be a member 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:41.320 of the Jaguars. 1:20:41.760 --> 1:20:45.600 What about the current Jaguars team, Well, we asked it, 1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:48.800 Cassearria Frisk out of report. Here's coach giving you a 1:20:48.880 --> 1:20:51.160 little bit more concise report because he's up at the 1:20:51.160 --> 1:20:53.519 podium as opposed to with us. Here's coach talking about 1:20:53.520 --> 1:20:54.000 the Jags. 1:20:55.360 --> 1:20:59.280 From the Jags, I see, you know, really an explosive offense. 1:21:00.080 --> 1:21:02.720 He got playmakers starting with the running back to me, 1:21:03.080 --> 1:21:08.040 etn is really good player, tough tackle, right, so we 1:21:08.120 --> 1:21:10.320 got to do a great job of tackling again this week. 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:14.519 Another Gary back. And the receivers. I think Brian Thomas 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:18.120 one of the best young receivers in the league. Really 1:21:18.160 --> 1:21:22.479 like his skill set, really explosive player, plays, really great hands, 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:25.040 attacking a deep part of the field as well. And 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:28.400 they got Travis Hunter throw him in the mix, another 1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:31.360 another playmaker they're trying to feed the ball to a 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:35.320 little bit more. Watching the Cincinnati game, Nan Trevor's done 1:21:35.320 --> 1:21:37.080 a really good job. I think Liam has done a 1:21:37.120 --> 1:21:40.040 really nice job working with Trevor. You can see some 1:21:40.080 --> 1:21:43.439 improvements from him, Like if the first guy's open, he's 1:21:43.520 --> 1:21:45.519 ripping it in there, and he rips it, he plays. 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:48.759 He's playing decisive, playing on time, and it's still having 1:21:48.760 --> 1:21:51.439 that athletic ability to move out of the pocket extend 1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.080 plays is really what makes him lethal. So they're doing 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:57.200 a really nice job. Offensive line have to definitely give 1:21:57.200 --> 1:21:59.480 them credit. They're doing a really nice job of protecting 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:02.760 only given up one sack this year, so really nice 1:22:02.840 --> 1:22:07.559 job protecting the quarterback and protecting the football defensively. A 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:09.479 lot of different looks. They mix it up a lot. 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:11.960 We're gonna be challenged with what they do, especially on 1:22:12.040 --> 1:22:15.439 a passing situation, second and third down. They mix up 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:16.720 a lot of looks, a lot of guys at the 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:18.759 line of scrimins dropping in and out. 1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:20.840 Of coverage looks, pressure looks. 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:23.200 So we have our hands full there when it comes 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:26.240 to picking those things up and being decisive where they are. 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:28.640 But they do a really nice job of attacking the football, 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:31.880 playing fast and physical. Really like the way a defense 1:22:32.000 --> 1:22:33.040 is playing well. 1:22:33.080 --> 1:22:36.280 The Jacksonville Jaguars traded up to number two. We all 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:39.519 knew it for Travis Hunter at that point, and James 1:22:39.560 --> 1:22:43.160 Gladstone GM next day talked about how Travis was gonna 1:22:43.200 --> 1:22:46.720 change the game. Unfortunately, there was always some blowback on that, 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:50.880 and it's not really about Travis. It's about Gladstone making 1:22:50.960 --> 1:22:51.919 too much of the situation. 1:22:52.080 --> 1:22:52.280 Now. 1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:54.560 I said earlier, I do think we're gonna see a 1:22:54.600 --> 1:22:57.240 little bit more Travis, especially in a Division game. I 1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:59.080 think these are the games you kind of save him for. 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:01.920 This is what Tryan's is seeing from Travis Hunt. 1:23:02.200 --> 1:23:04.680 For Travis, we just we play like we have to 1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:07.320 do us better, so it's not us just singling out 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:10.599 one player. He's definitely a part of what they do 1:23:10.800 --> 1:23:13.080 and they will try to feature him, but we don't 1:23:13.120 --> 1:23:17.280 overextend ourselves to try to chase ghosts or anything. Can 1:23:17.320 --> 1:23:19.280 heal lines all over the place. He will be in 1:23:19.320 --> 1:23:21.519 every position. They're gonna find ways to get in the ball. 1:23:21.720 --> 1:23:24.480 We just have to play sound and what we do defensively, 1:23:24.840 --> 1:23:27.000 and just we have to make the players we're supposed 1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:28.920 to make. Then when they do put him on the 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:31.880 defensive side at the corner position. See he made a 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:34.280 really nice play there on the sideline breaking up a 1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:37.160 pass you talk about a talented player, and you see 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:40.320 why he's drafted where he's drafted, the impact he's had 1:23:40.439 --> 1:23:43.360 at both places he was at, you know, Jackson State 1:23:43.439 --> 1:23:45.840 and also at Colorado. You see the impact that the 1:23:45.920 --> 1:23:49.479 kid has made. Outstanding young man, outstanding player, and it's 1:23:49.520 --> 1:23:52.200 really cool to see a guy be able to play 1:23:52.200 --> 1:23:54.920 on both sides of the football and in the National 1:23:54.920 --> 1:23:56.719 Football League where a lot of people say it can't 1:23:56.760 --> 1:23:58.919 be done, but it's impressing. 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:03.280 He still hasn't gotten that game yet where he's played, 1:24:04.040 --> 1:24:06.320 you know, one hundred snaps. My guess is, and it 1:24:06.320 --> 1:24:07.840 depends on what the weather is gonna be. You know, 1:24:07.880 --> 1:24:09.840 it looks like it could be a rainy, wet one 1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:12.080 on Sunday. If it's not, it's definitely gonna be hot 1:24:12.320 --> 1:24:14.760 because Jacksonville's got very similar weather to Houston. I know 1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:17.679 this really well. I thought, going to Jacksonville, Okay, it's Floria, 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:21.040 it's gonna be No, it's the exact same weather basically 1:24:21.080 --> 1:24:23.719 that you're gonna get here. It's just here we're play inside. 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:26.000 There they play outside, and you know we'll get wet 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:28.840 if it rains, but so be it. That's just what 1:24:28.880 --> 1:24:32.040 it's gonna be that said, that could determine what they 1:24:32.120 --> 1:24:34.439 do with Travis Hunter. And I said this, and we 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:37.880 said it draft night. Playing hundred players in the NFL, 1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:43.439 is that's not a recipe for success consistently. Can you 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:47.800 do it a game or two? Yes, back to back games, 1:24:47.960 --> 1:24:52.559 no playoff games potentially when the weather william, what's colder, 1:24:52.760 --> 1:24:55.200 when you have to worry about, you know, being out 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.360 to for one hundred plays in night your heat, maybe, 1:24:57.880 --> 1:25:00.960 but it's just really hard to do that said, I 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:02.759 think this is one of those games for the Jacks 1:25:03.040 --> 1:25:05.479 where they might want Travis Hunter on the field a 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.760 lot more than he has been on either side of 1:25:07.760 --> 1:25:13.120 the ball. So I'm sort of expecting that to happen. 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.919 Now we've gone on to Jacksonville, had a lot of success, 1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:18.160 but the games for the most part of the twenty 1:25:18.160 --> 1:25:21.880 twenty three have been really really close. The wins, Dubiko 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:25.479 ryans asad wins. They're close wins. But Miko said, look, 1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:28.800 that's that's the league, man, That's what this league is 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:29.599 all about. 1:25:29.960 --> 1:25:34.240 Every game you're in, you really would like to win 1:25:34.320 --> 1:25:37.640 in a convincing fashion. As I tell guys, it's not 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:44.320 it's the big schools versus the smallest It's NFL football, 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.240 So every week you're playing against competitive opponents. It's not 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:50.280 just oh, this is a w just because this team 1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:52.559 is on the schedule every week. You got to bring 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:55.400 your best every single week. So whether it's a close game, 1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:57.680 whether it's not close, you just got to find a 1:25:57.680 --> 1:26:00.240 way to finish with the win. And that's what our 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:03.320 guys are focused on. It's not focused on how many 1:26:03.320 --> 1:26:06.720 times we've been in one possession games. Guys, players, you 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:09.200 don't think that way. You just think about going out. 1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:10.320 Whatever is in front. 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:12.679 Of you, you attack it, you execute the right way, 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:13.160 and you. 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:16.280 Focus on winning that particular down and however the game 1:26:16.360 --> 1:26:19.120 shapes out. Right, we know they're gonna be tight. We 1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:21.760 know it always comes down to the fourth quarter, right, 1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:24.000 And that's why they have the red Zone channel. 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.080 I'm telling you, coach right about that. That's why they 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:29.120 have the red Zone channel. And Scott Hansen always talks 1:26:29.120 --> 1:26:31.160 about the witching hour when you have like four or 1:26:31.200 --> 1:26:33.240 five games that are all close. Man, this league is 1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:36.200 all close. Everybody's got the same salary cap. You're blowing 1:26:36.200 --> 1:26:38.280 teams out. It's not what this league is all about. 1:26:39.200 --> 1:26:41.439 We'll hear a little bit more from CJ. In a 1:26:41.439 --> 1:26:44.160 little bit about that. He is kind of a pointed 1:26:44.240 --> 1:26:46.080 question back at the media. We'll get to that in 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:50.840 just a second. But Asdamika ryans talking about games being close, man, 1:26:50.880 --> 1:26:52.040 it's why you got red zone channel. 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:52.920 Okay, let's get to CJ. 1:26:53.000 --> 1:26:56.200 Stropp asked, of course, the question that has been on 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.559 everybody's mind about the offense. 1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:02.479 Where's it going, what's the progress? He says, they're really close. 1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:06.240 And I know that people, some that I know very well, 1:27:06.600 --> 1:27:10.000 have been barking at this, really upset about it. And 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:12.679 essentially the point is, okay, well then prove it. Well 1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:15.840 it's an opportunity to prove it. Against Jacksonville Jaguars. But 1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:18.760 CJ said, yeah, man, I think we're moving closer to 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:19.880 what it is that we want to be. 1:27:20.200 --> 1:27:22.599 They're really close. You know, we're like one or two 1:27:22.640 --> 1:27:25.360 plays away from you know, when in the tight games 1:27:25.400 --> 1:27:27.680 gets good teams and some two weeks he so you know, 1:27:27.720 --> 1:27:30.360 we're still building, still growing still you know again used 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:32.960 to play on one another. So but yeah, we're very close. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.320 So here's my frustration with this. 1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:41.720 People get upset hearing CJ tmico us. 1:27:41.600 --> 1:27:42.320 Talk about it. 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:45.000 Now it's a little different for us because Mark and 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:47.400 I we can avoid that because we know that's something 1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:48.400 that you know, people. 1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:50.120 Don't want to hear her or go prove it or whatever. 1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:52.439 We can catch it because we got the mic, We 1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:54.519 got thirty minutes, we get an hour, we got two 1:27:54.520 --> 1:27:56.519 hours to be able to talk and discuss it. 1:27:57.240 --> 1:27:58.799 But we also aren't being. 1:27:58.720 --> 1:28:01.680 Asked the question every single time we go to a 1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:05.000 damn press conference. What are you gonna say? How do 1:28:05.040 --> 1:28:07.320 you change up the answer to the press conference? 1:28:07.560 --> 1:28:08.200 You don't? 1:28:09.120 --> 1:28:11.679 You say, yeah, we're getting closer, we're doing better things. 1:28:11.720 --> 1:28:15.080 And he's right in a sense that we have been close. 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:17.200 You make a couple of plays against the Rams. You 1:28:17.240 --> 1:28:19.599 want to know you make those plays, you probably are 1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:21.599 gonna make some plays against the Bucks you're two and zero, 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:23.680 but you didn't. And now you gotta climb out of 1:28:23.680 --> 1:28:27.200 a hole. But that's not the question being asked. The 1:28:27.320 --> 1:28:32.439 questions are being asked so it begets that answer. So 1:28:32.479 --> 1:28:34.679 if you're getting mad, get mad at people were answering 1:28:34.680 --> 1:28:39.240 the damn same question, and you know who I'm mad at. 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:40.320 So there we go. 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:43.760 Okay, calm down, John, here we go now to that 1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:48.400 all being said, what are the things that CJ thinks 1:28:48.479 --> 1:28:51.920 he can improve on and help the team get better. 1:28:52.200 --> 1:28:54.760 He kinda had a really interesting right off the top 1:28:54.880 --> 1:28:56.320 one word everything. 1:28:56.920 --> 1:29:00.439 I don't know everything. I can always be better. I 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:03.080 told them the other day, like, if anything he sees 1:29:03.320 --> 1:29:06.240 or anybody sees, I can be better and let me know, 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:09.240 you know. I think I my process has really been 1:29:09.240 --> 1:29:11.880 good lately. I'll see the field well, putting the ball 1:29:12.040 --> 1:29:16.320 is supposed to be, with the coverages and whatnot, and 1:29:16.720 --> 1:29:18.599 some things. It's just I didn't really get a ton 1:29:18.640 --> 1:29:20.720 of reps with some of the guys we're getting in 1:29:21.040 --> 1:29:24.439 the game at receiver, so that's a little bit of 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:27.439 a challenge. But I think that's one of my biggest things, 1:29:27.479 --> 1:29:29.599 just being the coach on the field, you know, and 1:29:29.640 --> 1:29:32.080 taking that step. And it takes time, it's not overnight. 1:29:32.160 --> 1:29:33.640 So that's the area I think I can go. 1:29:34.080 --> 1:29:35.640 One of the things I love about CJ is how 1:29:35.720 --> 1:29:38.719 hypercritical he is about himself. That he's always looking inward, 1:29:38.920 --> 1:29:41.439 trying to find the right answers for himself, knowing that 1:29:41.479 --> 1:29:43.960 if he does better, offense does better, then you don't 1:29:43.960 --> 1:29:46.280 get asked the question about where the offense is et cetera, 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:50.439 et cetera. So that being said, I'm just I'm still 1:29:50.439 --> 1:29:52.880 stuck on that, still suck on that whole thing. 1:29:53.640 --> 1:29:54.920 But I'll get past it either way. 1:29:55.800 --> 1:29:58.320 Dimko has asked this a little while ago two about 1:29:58.320 --> 1:30:02.480 close games, and I think CJ has a better response 1:30:02.479 --> 1:30:06.240 in a sense because he's like, look at the scores. 1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:08.639 What are the scores every single week? 1:30:09.160 --> 1:30:10.760 How many blowouts. 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:11.160 Are there in the NFL? 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:11.880 There aren't. 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:14.759 I mean we're only two. I'll take a win anywhere 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:15.200 you can get it. 1:30:15.280 --> 1:30:18.960 That's what CJ says here about just winning a game 1:30:19.120 --> 1:30:20.920 and you know, doing what you gotta do to win 1:30:21.040 --> 1:30:21.519 that game. 1:30:21.920 --> 1:30:23.479 I mean, how many blog wins do you see it? 1:30:23.720 --> 1:30:26.320 And we've had those games like we played New England 1:30:26.360 --> 1:30:28.559 last year, had a really good game again, same played 1:30:28.560 --> 1:30:31.439 the Chargers day, same thing. My rookie year. We had 1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:34.560 a couple of block wins. So I mean, you know 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:37.639 what I'm saying, it's yeah, I mean, you know, if 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:39.600 you can blow everybody out, that's the NFL. It's the 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:40.840 best players in the world for a reason, you know 1:30:40.840 --> 1:30:43.320 what I'm saying. So I don't know, I just want 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:45.240 to I don't care how it looks where it's at. 1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:46.200 You just want to. 1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:51.960 Win a men, because the last I looked, it says 1:30:52.240 --> 1:30:56.040 w L T in the column this is win loss, tie. 1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:59.880 Doesn't say pretty win, doesn't say ugly loss. It doesn't 1:31:00.120 --> 1:31:04.040 say oh now it has the point discrepancy. But that 1:31:04.120 --> 1:31:08.480 has never really come into play in a playoff seating situation, 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.000 all that kind of stuff. You just play to win games. 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:14.160 As Herman Edwards said, you played win a game, win 1:31:14.240 --> 1:31:16.759 a game twenty three, twenty two, forty three, forty two. 1:31:16.840 --> 1:31:20.639 I don't care ninety three to six. However, you got 1:31:20.640 --> 1:31:20.960 to do it. 1:31:21.000 --> 1:31:21.280 Do it. 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:27.160 That's that's it. So go in a football game in 1:31:27.520 --> 1:31:30.719 Duval County. Speaking of Duval County, let's hear from Liam 1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:34.799 Cohen as he's getting his team ready for the Houston 1:31:34.840 --> 1:31:36.080 Texans to come to town. 1:31:36.520 --> 1:31:38.439 And you know the Jags are ready. 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:40.960 Just listen to this answer from Liam Cohen about the 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:41.880 Texans come to town. 1:31:42.120 --> 1:31:45.559 Yeah, we talked just now as a team and really 1:31:45.720 --> 1:31:49.360 just talked about the focus being on us, and we 1:31:49.479 --> 1:31:51.759 need it to be. We don't have time to waste 1:31:51.960 --> 1:31:56.880 energy or emotional energy on anything else besides fixing and 1:31:56.960 --> 1:32:00.799 correcting the issues and mistakes from our game and putting 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:04.040 our effort into you know, we had a huge. 1:32:03.800 --> 1:32:05.120 Indivision opponent this week. 1:32:05.240 --> 1:32:06.960 Yes, we have an opponent we have to play and 1:32:07.000 --> 1:32:10.439 prepare for, but we really have to focus on us 1:32:10.520 --> 1:32:12.800 right now and get some of this stuff cleaned up 1:32:12.840 --> 1:32:14.799 that we, you know, messed up yesterday. 1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:16.400 Coaches, players, everybody. 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:18.800 But you know, I think at this point it's so 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:22.160 early like these Yeah, there may be who knows what emotions, 1:32:22.360 --> 1:32:24.400 you know, I can't speak to that, but I can 1:32:24.520 --> 1:32:27.000 say that these guys, I think they'll come in with 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:29.679 the right mindset mentality this week to come and. 1:32:29.640 --> 1:32:31.400 Get this thing right in terms of things. 1:32:31.400 --> 1:32:33.200 We got to get fixed and be ready to go 1:32:33.240 --> 1:32:35.280 play a tough, physical game that we're going to go 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:36.320 we have to play on Sunday. 1:32:36.680 --> 1:32:38.679 I love that response from Liam Cohen. 1:32:39.200 --> 1:32:43.519 Loved it because he's putting the focus right back on 1:32:43.560 --> 1:32:46.200 the game. I will say that is going to be 1:32:46.280 --> 1:32:51.360 a big challenge for them. That situation that happened last year, 1:32:52.439 --> 1:32:55.280 it was talked about, it was talked about the Jacksonville media. 1:32:55.400 --> 1:32:56.360 Jacksonville media is. 1:32:56.320 --> 1:33:00.400 Talking about this, and you know, the Texas is coming back. 1:33:00.479 --> 1:33:03.280 And besides the fact that that incident happened, last year. 1:33:03.280 --> 1:33:06.559 The Texans have gone down to Duval County in one 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:12.519 in twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:13.519 and twenty four. 1:33:14.640 --> 1:33:17.839 That to me is the bigger issue. 1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:21.760 Then oh azizel Shier is coming back to Jacksonville, et cetera, 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:25.120 et cetera. Let them be pumped up, let them be 1:33:25.240 --> 1:33:28.960 over jacked up and do some things wrong because they're 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:31.080 focusing on the wrong things. That's why I felt like 1:33:31.120 --> 1:33:34.920 that quote from Liocn. Cohen was a great one to 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:39.559 hone in on because that's the exact right philosophy he's 1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:42.200 got to have. And it goes with the Texans too, 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:45.519 you know the Texans. You know Seth Pain's talked about 1:33:45.520 --> 1:33:49.759 this and he's absolutely dead on. You know, swarm is 1:33:49.760 --> 1:33:55.320 is perfect. It's great mentality, but it can't be you know, 1:33:56.080 --> 1:34:02.200 this hyperkinetic swarm where you're throwing shoulders into guys and 1:34:02.240 --> 1:34:04.840 you're not making good tackles, and you're getting yourself out 1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:07.360 of gaps because you're just twitching to get off the ball, 1:34:07.600 --> 1:34:08.360 all those kind of things. 1:34:08.439 --> 1:34:10.280 You've got to do things right. The whole key to 1:34:10.320 --> 1:34:11.439 swarm is doing things right. 1:34:12.080 --> 1:34:16.640 As Belichick said, do your job, So play with swarm mentality, 1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:21.760 but do the things right. Turn it up to volume ten, 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:24.559 as Ezel Shire talked about in the locker room today. 1:34:24.800 --> 1:34:27.400 Turn it to volume ten. But if you go from 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.160 zero to ten, we're gonna make mistakes. We gotta be 1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:32.880 ramping this thing up throughout, and then there are times 1:34:32.920 --> 1:34:35.080 when you can really crank up the volume. So there's 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:37.839 gonna be a lot of volume for sure on Sunday 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:42.520 with Texans and Jags. Texans desperately needing a win. Jags 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:44.840 want to prove they can play with the big boys, 1:34:45.160 --> 1:34:47.599 and this is one of those opportunities. Now, I don't 1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:51.680 think this is Jacksonville's styled honestly, they don't play as 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:53.439 physical as we do. They need to play their style, 1:34:53.479 --> 1:34:56.240 which is fast, get out and play fast. We got 1:34:56.240 --> 1:35:00.479 fast guys. We're gonna try and embarrass you with our speed. Jacksonville, 1:35:00.479 --> 1:35:02.920 That's what I focus on. But hopefully I'm not well, 1:35:02.920 --> 1:35:06.800 I'm not Jacksonville, thankfully, and hopefully they don't. Hopefully they get, 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:10.439 you know, down into Quagmar with us, and if they do, 1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:11.200 they're gonna. 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:13.559 Get physically beat up. If not, well, they might have. 1:35:13.520 --> 1:35:15.320 A shot because they got some athletes, There's no question 1:35:15.360 --> 1:35:17.320 about that on that side of the ball. All Right, 1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:20.200 that's gonna do it for this evening Evening show. A 1:35:20.240 --> 1:35:23.960 big thanks to Dimico, CJ. Liam Cohen for this final segment. 1:35:24.120 --> 1:35:27.360 A big thanks to Frank Frangie, longtime friend from Jacksonville 1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:28.840 and great on a mike there as a play by 1:35:28.960 --> 1:35:33.479 playman for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Xavier Hutchinson, Jacksonville native jumping 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:35.120 on the show, did a great job and he played my. 1:35:35.080 --> 1:35:36.880 Game extremely, extremely well. 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:40.200 Tomork vandermir the executive vice president General Manager Nick Caseario, 1:35:40.439 --> 1:35:42.519 appreciate everybody for being a part of this show. 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:45.000 We'll see you tomorrow and as always, go Texans.