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Speaker 1: Here we are. You know, it's a tough time of

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Speaker 1: Goals, Chris. You know, there's a lot of big picture

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, dog Show, speed weeks, stay toning.

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Speaker 2: You're right that we're yeah, we got we got the

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Speaker 1: Chris Myers, one of the best in the business, NFL, NASCAR,

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, boxing, Westminster Kennel Club, Dog Show, all

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Speaker 2: Great to see the Jags of the Jets forget all right,

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