WEBVTT - Vote for Mamas w/ Liuba Gretchen Shirley

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio

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<v Speaker 1>in partnership with I Heart Radio. Anytime I talked about

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<v Speaker 1>paid leave or childcare, someone would always say, stick to

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<v Speaker 1>the bread and butter issues and ignore the women's issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, if we had similar labor force participation arts

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<v Speaker 1>to countries like Canada and Germany that have paid family

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<v Speaker 1>that have subsidice childcare, we'd have five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>million more women in the workforce. We'd add five billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a year to the economy. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>women's issue. It is a family issue and economic issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an issue that affects every American. Hi, everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to Katie's Crib. Today we are getting into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are talking all about paid family leave, universal childcare,

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<v Speaker 1>really big topics that need a lot of help. So

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<v Speaker 1>here to help us talk about that is the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only Luba Gretchen Shirley. She's the founder and CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of Vote Mama, which is the first pack in the

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<v Speaker 1>country to support democratic moms running for office. Luba has

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<v Speaker 1>spent her career leading organizations to empower working families both

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<v Speaker 1>at home and abroad. She previously worked for the u

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<v Speaker 1>N Foundation. She was selected as a Global Champion for

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<v Speaker 1>Women's Economic Empowerment by You and Women. Together with You

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<v Speaker 1>and Women, she launched the I Am Parent campaign for

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<v Speaker 1>Parent to Leave. In two thousand eighteen, Luba ran herself

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress to represent New York Second District in the U.

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<v Speaker 1>S House of Representatives. She also became the first woman

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<v Speaker 1>to receive federal approval to use campaign funds for childcare. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>how cool is that? Following her historic win, candidates across

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<v Speaker 1>the country have followed her lead and petitioned their state

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<v Speaker 1>and local governments for the same right. Luba currently lives

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<v Speaker 1>on Long Island with her husband, Christopher and three children.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Katie's Crab, Luba. I have wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about this topic and all the things we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about for a long time, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so happy that you're here. But first, let's just hear

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<v Speaker 1>about you as a mom, Okay, like, like not all

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible not that we can even separate them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're so intertwined, but you have three children. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have three crazy children. Yes, Nila is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be seven on Sunday, which is shocking and She had

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<v Speaker 1>her her fifth dance recital last night, and I cried

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<v Speaker 1>like a fool. Yeah, she got a trophy for five

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<v Speaker 1>years of dance, so she's going to be seven. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea how that's possible. Wow, you're looking fierce

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<v Speaker 1>as hell. Let me tell you, because I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 1>not sleeping and running around like a crazy person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sleeping. I actually have a bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>cold and was up nursing the entire night. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was fun, It was awesome. Nicholas just turned five,

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<v Speaker 1>and Andrew is thirteen months. So, Andrew is your pandemic baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I connect on this. When was he in

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic line up? In April, the height of the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>when had just really started. So I was thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks pregnant and they were telling everybody not to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the grocery store, not to leave your house, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not safe. And Nicholas broke his leg and we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in the hospital exactly when they were saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even safe to go to the grocery store. They

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<v Speaker 1>literally kicked me out of the hospital because I was

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<v Speaker 1>too pregnantly said it wasn't safe. I had to sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the car and my husband went in with Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh Andrew was born two weeks later, so

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<v Speaker 1>height of the pandemic. For twenty four hours of labor,

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<v Speaker 1>I wore a mask. I wore a mask too, but

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<v Speaker 1>only three hours. Holy crap. So okay, so all three

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<v Speaker 1>of your births have been are they all been long?

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<v Speaker 1>So Mila was twenty three hours of back labor, ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in an emergency c section. She was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be all natural, no drugs, had no drugs. And then

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<v Speaker 1>literally after twenty three hours and she refused to come

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<v Speaker 1>out and it was complete back labor. And then Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't back labor. Honestly, I was like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is easy, this isn't like her, and I didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>realize it was in hard labor. So I bounced on

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<v Speaker 1>a yoga ball at home with Mila, who was bouncing

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<v Speaker 1>on her little yoga ball, and I I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably like nine o'cock at night. My mom's friend

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<v Speaker 1>came over and she's like, you know, your contractions are

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes apart. You need to go to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>We parked the car at nine and he came out

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<v Speaker 1>at time forty four. Holy crap, you just made it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a V back. It was a v back. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Andrew was the longest, which they always say,

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<v Speaker 1>the third is the wild card. Yes, I have heard this,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't think we've talked about on Katie's crim

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but yes, there's this thing that says you

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<v Speaker 1>can sort of assume that the first is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be laborious and difficult and and unknown, the second is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be easier than the first, and the third

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go either way. The third was probably and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to I can't even I can't beat him sitting.

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<v Speaker 1>He was probably the least traumatic birth, which is weird

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<v Speaker 1>because it was, but it was the least traumatic, but

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<v Speaker 1>the longest. I mean, so you births twenty three hours

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<v Speaker 1>in a mask? What is your housband's name? Christopher? Was

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<v Speaker 1>he allowed in the room at that time, because I

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<v Speaker 1>remember at the beginning of the pandemic, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>changing by the day, by the week, whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>your partners or any plus ones were allowed in the room. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was, thankfully um for for weeks exactly. They were

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<v Speaker 1>changing it every few days and they weren't sure, and

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<v Speaker 1>I when they said that we weren't going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a partner, I went into full on panic, both because

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<v Speaker 1>I knew what it was like to give birth. I

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<v Speaker 1>had two pretty traumatic births. The last time I had

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<v Speaker 1>complications after Nicholas, and it was it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>whole um, the whole thing. So, I mean I was

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<v Speaker 1>hospitalized for four days after Nicholas. I ended up with

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<v Speaker 1>an infection and retained placenta and all sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does that mean? So there were pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>your placenta that didn't come out in the after birth

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<v Speaker 1>and so they were still in there, which makes you

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<v Speaker 1>really sick. I ended up with a hundred and five fever.

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<v Speaker 1>So then like two weeks after Nicholas was born, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a hundred and five fever. I was admitted to

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital and ivy meds for four days. When they

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<v Speaker 1>sent me home with iby meds in for another nine days.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I thought of like that alone, I

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<v Speaker 1>going alone, Like I was having like an actual panic attack.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember calling every elected official I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you have to call you have to

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<v Speaker 1>call the governor. We have to take care of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So literally I was on the phone with every elected

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<v Speaker 1>official in New York and Governor Cuomo actually put out

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<v Speaker 1>a statement and said every every laboring woman gets to

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<v Speaker 1>have one support person. So I was gonna have my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>Adula and my husband. I had my husband. It was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just glad to have him um. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was weird because my kids didn't meet Andrew until we

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<v Speaker 1>came home. They didn't get to meet him in the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a very strange scenario. And they kept playing

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<v Speaker 1>here comes the Sun, I'm the I'm the speaker over

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital because every time someone was discharging COVID

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<v Speaker 1>they played that Oh my god, wow, you can never

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<v Speaker 1>the Wow. That song has such like deep meaning for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's wild. Were you so terrified at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>your pregnancy of I mean I remember just when I

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<v Speaker 1>found I got pregned in a week before shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was you know, they just didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>it affected pregnant See, they didn't know how it affected

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<v Speaker 1>pregnant women. They didn't know how it affected a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was all like the wild West. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so insane. Yeah, I was. I was not calm. I

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<v Speaker 1>was very nervous. I mean, I I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen. And I was literally telling my

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<v Speaker 1>kids this morning driving me into school, and I was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we should we should actually do a recording where we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what this last year was like for you,

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<v Speaker 1>so we remember it because this was historic. And I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to listen back to when you were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>were five and six and what it was like for

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<v Speaker 1>you when you think back a year ago, were already

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to know process this and come out of it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more. And but a year ago, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knew what was happening. Nobody knew anything. It was scary

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<v Speaker 1>as hell. We were going into a hospital, we were

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<v Speaker 1>having you know, a baby in the middle of a pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a mask. I mean I remember them taking the

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<v Speaker 1>mask off, giving the oxygen and putting the mask back on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was scary. I mean, there's really no

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<v Speaker 1>way you had no idea what was going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>if you were hearing horror stories of infants getting it

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<v Speaker 1>and babies getting it. And Andrew with the whole family

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<v Speaker 1>ended up getting in November. And Andrew and I actually

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<v Speaker 1>not the worst, but you know, we got through it.

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<v Speaker 1>In April when he was born, and that was all okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Oddly enough, my mom, who's you know seven now, I

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<v Speaker 1>was worried the most about her, thinking she she probably

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<v Speaker 1>had the best of everybody her and my husband probably

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<v Speaker 1>head of the best. Um. But yeah, my mom got

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<v Speaker 1>it first, and then we all got it. Andrew got it,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it, kids did, my husband did. Nicholas was fine,

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<v Speaker 1>had no symptoms. Mila had a headache and was just tired. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a very high fever and was very, very

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<v Speaker 1>sick for probably like sixties and were you able to

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<v Speaker 1>breastfeed through it? Like he was awake for maybe an

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<v Speaker 1>hour of the day. I slept from the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. The two of us just slept and nursed.

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<v Speaker 1>And they get the antibodies even you know, when you're sick,

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<v Speaker 1>especially he can now, and the antibodies from having COVID

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<v Speaker 1>and the hell from from me having the vaccines, getting

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<v Speaker 1>the antibodies from the brest of life. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing you can do. Amazing, how cool. I never

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<v Speaker 1>even considered not nursing during it. So shifting gears, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you get into politics? I've always been political. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I was volunteering on county ledge races. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was three years old with my mom, I was stuffing

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<v Speaker 1>envelopes and you know, our local elected office, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was always political. I studied politics and undergrad. I

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<v Speaker 1>never planned on running profice at this point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I'd run at some point when I was older,

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<v Speaker 1>when my kids were grown. I was living in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to n YU for for undergrad and grad.

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<v Speaker 1>I had Mila at that point, and I was not

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<v Speaker 1>planning on moving back to Long Island. I grew up here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was pregnant and I did not have access

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<v Speaker 1>to paid family. And then I remember putting my name

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<v Speaker 1>on waitlist for child care centers and never making at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And I eventually about a year and like Niel, I

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<v Speaker 1>was about a year old and my husband is not

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<v Speaker 1>from Long Island, South African and we made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>to move here, and we did it for free babysitting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember thinking, oh my god, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get mommy trapped. I'm gonna get stuck on

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<v Speaker 1>Long Island as a suburban mom, and what am I

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<v Speaker 1>going to do when I want to start full time

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<v Speaker 1>working again. I was consulting part time. I had a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a second baby, was not planning on running

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<v Speaker 1>for Congress. And Peter King had been in office since

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<v Speaker 1>I was twelve and had consistently voted to her people

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<v Speaker 1>in my districted across the country. I was watching his

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<v Speaker 1>voting record, watching his complete support of Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible things he was doing. I started an Indivisible group,

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<v Speaker 1>and literally every morning I would be up nursing Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>and on my phone writing an action alert. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the particular issue. There was a new executive

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<v Speaker 1>order every other day. I would write a whole list

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<v Speaker 1>of all this is the background, this is what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to call King's office about. And then King came

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<v Speaker 1>out and support of the Musliman and I called his

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<v Speaker 1>office and I said, I'm having a protest. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>to come in and speak with him, and they said, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>show up at the opposite three thirty. I got there

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<v Speaker 1>three thirty. They had locked the doors and sent the

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<v Speaker 1>staff home, and we had about four people protests. And

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<v Speaker 1>I called on Monday morning and he agreed to meet

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<v Speaker 1>with me because I had so many people protests that

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<v Speaker 1>he told the press later that he met with a

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<v Speaker 1>leader of a resistance group. Oh god, not a mom

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<v Speaker 1>in his community, a leader of a resistance group. And

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<v Speaker 1>I went in. I brought three people from the district

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<v Speaker 1>with me, three friends, and I said, look, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>you to hold a town hall. I'm glad that you're

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with me, but they're hundreds of people who've been

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get meetings with you. Right he was blocking

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<v Speaker 1>everybody on Facebook. He wouldn't talk to anybody. So he

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<v Speaker 1>told me flat out that holding a town hall would

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<v Speaker 1>only diminish democracy. And that was pretty much it for

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<v Speaker 1>me at that point. I organized the town hall. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a six ft cardboard cutout of Peter King. He

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<v Speaker 1>of course didn't come. We invited him. I held the

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<v Speaker 1>town hall for him, and then people started saying, are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to run against him? And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crazy. I have two tiny babies, I'm nursing. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no way I can do this. And I remember people

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<v Speaker 1>really saying, what can we do to convince you to

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<v Speaker 1>run right now? And I laughed and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I need childcare. My mom is a teacher. She was

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<v Speaker 1>still working then. She's retired now, thankfully, But I had

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<v Speaker 1>them with me all day, and then she'd come home

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<v Speaker 1>at three thirty and she would watch them, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when I would start my consulting work. Oh my god, Luba,

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<v Speaker 1>this is insane, but I I didn't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it, honestly, and I just kept watching his votes,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he voted to take healthcare away from seventy

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand people in our district alone, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>got pissed. I got really really pissed. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're not supposed to be the angry woman. I was

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<v Speaker 1>the angry woman, fully so, and nobody took me seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young woman. I had a one year

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<v Speaker 1>old and a three year old. I had never run

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<v Speaker 1>for office before. Our our Democratic chairman literally told people

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like Tracy Flick, you know, the Reese

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<v Speaker 1>Witherspoon character, and election an election of course, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the young blonde girl nobody nobody looked at seriously shapped

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<v Speaker 1>it off. I ended up out raising Peter King. I

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<v Speaker 1>raised more than two million dollars with new corporate knocked

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<v Speaker 1>in two fifty doors, and he had always won by

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<v Speaker 1>four to forty something points. He only won by six

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<v Speaker 1>points this time, and he decided to retire afterwards because

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to go through that again. Wow, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you a lot of fun. You

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<v Speaker 1>had a lot of fun. So you've always been a

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<v Speaker 1>political person. Your mother raised you to be super a

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<v Speaker 1>where and involved. Is it this situation and this experience

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<v Speaker 1>that made you start vote? Mama, tell me about the

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<v Speaker 1>pack and why. So we have we have a foundation

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<v Speaker 1>and pack. Our pack is the political arm We work

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<v Speaker 1>to get democratic moms elected from school board to Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>We fund them, we mentor them, we trained them. We

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<v Speaker 1>have this incredible advisory committee, people like Representatives Katie Porter Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Kim shriyor Terry Stool, Grace Meang, We have the Tenant

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<v Speaker 1>Governor's Stundate, State Senators, all of these amazing people who

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<v Speaker 1>sit on our advisory committee who help us mentor these candidates.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really about providing them Mama's net work, making

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they have the support. Um we you know

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I had one of our county supervisors who's

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<v Speaker 1>an alumni, called me the other day and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I really need to talk to their mothers

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<v Speaker 1>at the same the same level of elected office. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we put something together? So I literally started to reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to all of our city council members, all of

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<v Speaker 1>our county county legislators and exact and we're putting together

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<v Speaker 1>a Zoom happy hour just so they can talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. That's awesome. So we're working to get these

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<v Speaker 1>moms intopice. The foundation side is working to actually break

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<v Speaker 1>down the structural barriers to make it easier for them

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<v Speaker 1>to run. Through our foundation, we're working to pass campaign

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<v Speaker 1>funds for childcare in all fifty states. That is our

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<v Speaker 1>research arm it's our nonprofit, nonpartisan arm. Our long term

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<v Speaker 1>goal is to get universal child Here pasted our short

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<v Speaker 1>term goals campaign funds for childcare, because this breaks down

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<v Speaker 1>the barrier. It makes it easier to elect more moms.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're working with legislators to pass family friendly legislation

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<v Speaker 1>to normalize what it looks like to actually talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this legislation with an economic lens, because that's when people

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<v Speaker 1>start to take you seriously, and that's when they start

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<v Speaker 1>to listen. When they understand that this legislation is not

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<v Speaker 1>just the right thing to do, but the economically smart

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, you start to get crossover. You start

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<v Speaker 1>have to get through Republicans and Democrats talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So during my campaign I had the babies with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally every day till three thirty I was giving speeches

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<v Speaker 1>with Nicholas and the baby. We're up nursing with meal

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<v Speaker 1>and running around next to me. There's no playbook for

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<v Speaker 1>how to run profice, but there's really no playbook for

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<v Speaker 1>how to do with small children. There's no one to

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<v Speaker 1>reach out and say, hey, how do you do this?

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<v Speaker 1>What's the schedule? Like, how do I manage this part

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<v Speaker 1>of my life with this part? We have so many

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<v Speaker 1>millionaires in Congress. Literally more than half of our representatives

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<v Speaker 1>are millionaires, because Congress is not set up for working Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be wealthy and connected to even jump

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<v Speaker 1>start a race. Most working people don't have the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I remember being told, you have to raise

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred thousand dollars before anyone takes you seriously. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a nonprofit background. I don't come from a wealthy family.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea how I was going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did it. It It was a hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six in the first two months, and then I hired staff.

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<v Speaker 1>I had campaign manager, and then I got to find instructor,

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<v Speaker 1>and we kept building and growing and raising the money.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was sheer, just determination. But so many people

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that ability to even start. So during the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>about five months into the campaign, I still had both

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<v Speaker 1>babies with me all day, and I put a request

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<v Speaker 1>into the Federal Election Commission and I said, can I

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<v Speaker 1>use some of my campaign funds for child care? Frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody said it was political so aside. They said, you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get attacked as a woman, as a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I was already getting attacked for being a mother. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, yeah, They were like, don't, don't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is when you're running and you have

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<v Speaker 1>school loans and you're trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>pay your bills, and then all of a sudden, you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to pick up the cost of childcare without a salary,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you run for Congress, you don't get any salary.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't work another job full time for It's like

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<v Speaker 1>coming three full time jobs plus two babies. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the ability to pick up the costs of

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<v Speaker 1>child care. I put this request in and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>driving down to d C with with Mel and Nicholas,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew that Glamor magazine was going to cover

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<v Speaker 1>it the next day. It was a bipartisan, unanimous decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Every press outlet in the country covered it. Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>said it was the one bipartisan thing they could agree with,

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<v Speaker 1>which till this day still shocks me. Wow. But it

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<v Speaker 1>changed the way that people are in profits. Fifty on

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<v Speaker 1>federal candidates have now used their campaign councer childcare, men

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<v Speaker 1>and women, Republicans and Democrats. Almost seventies state candidates have

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<v Speaker 1>done this, and so we're actually working with the Vote

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Foundation, which I'll tell you about in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're where can you break down the structural barriers?

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<v Speaker 1>So we've been working to get campaign funds for childcare

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<v Speaker 1>now passed at the state level for all state and

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<v Speaker 1>local candidates, because my FBC ruling improved it for all

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<v Speaker 1>federal candidates. But each state has different laws. We're changing

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<v Speaker 1>this and we've actually got eleven states to approve legislation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is amazing. We are breaking down the barriers. The

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<v Speaker 1>goals got all fifty states three so Connecticut just passed

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<v Speaker 1>the House and is after the governor. They're about to

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<v Speaker 1>become the twelfth state to pass legislation. This is incredible

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<v Speaker 1>that people can use campaign funds for childcare. Um Vote

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<v Speaker 1>Mama is trying to normalize what it looks like to

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<v Speaker 1>run as a mother besides just trying to get childcare. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how how else is vote Mama helping to do this?

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to pack right after my campaign, end

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<v Speaker 1>it because people do not look at moms and take

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<v Speaker 1>us seriously, like the donors don't, the press doesn't, voters don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only to teams that is to normalize it,

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<v Speaker 1>to actually see more moms running for profice. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all of these organizations across the country that work

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<v Speaker 1>to get women elected. The reality is, at a time

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<v Speaker 1>we're forty four years old, eighty six percent of American

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<v Speaker 1>women or moms, and yet just six percent of our

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<v Speaker 1>congress members or moms with kids eighteen or younger. You

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<v Speaker 1>need people in office who understand these issues at a

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<v Speaker 1>visceral level, and our policies have failed American families for generations.

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<v Speaker 1>So I launched Obama. I wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>support moms running and help them in every way. So normally,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get into a race and you fell out

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<v Speaker 1>a pack endorsement application, you have that interview, you pretend

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<v Speaker 1>everything is perfect. I've raised all this money, I have

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<v Speaker 1>all these endorsements, I have all this wonderful campaign staff

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<v Speaker 1>and support, X, Y and Z. Give me money, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a check and they move on. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a different organization. I wanted to be the pack

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<v Speaker 1>that when you come and talk to us, you can

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<v Speaker 1>literally break down crying during your interview. We've had that

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<v Speaker 1>happened many times. You can talk to us about what

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<v Speaker 1>support you really need. I mean, we've helped candidates do

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<v Speaker 1>everything from literally find a babysitter to pick out a

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<v Speaker 1>car seat, to put a finance when together, to hire

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<v Speaker 1>a finance director, to teach them how to do call time,

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<v Speaker 1>to put a policy piece together. You need a complete

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<v Speaker 1>wraparound support, and we support Democratic women on the pack side,

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<v Speaker 1>from school board to Senate. It is so important to

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<v Speaker 1>build a bench, and this is something that Republicans are

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<v Speaker 1>really great at. They work to build a bench. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at two thousand eight, the Tea Party took

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<v Speaker 1>over school boards. Fool boards are easy seats to win.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually you know, many cases uncontested, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>can use them as jumping off points to your next

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<v Speaker 1>go to the next level, right exactly. School Boards are critical.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been people there are so many in Gwynette

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<v Speaker 1>County who sat on the school board for forty seven years.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy percent of school board members are white only kids

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<v Speaker 1>in the district, and you end up having people who

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<v Speaker 1>are not there to be champions for the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the district. You need a champion for the students. Those

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<v Speaker 1>school boards are critical. Council races are so important, mayoral races,

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<v Speaker 1>counting led races. So much of the policy that affects

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<v Speaker 1>your life every day happens at the local level. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to get moms in there those levels because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the policy is important, and also because it helps build

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<v Speaker 1>a bench so that when you have somebody running for

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<v Speaker 1>a better office, they already have all that experience, They've

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<v Speaker 1>already gone through all of these other seats. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>they feel ready to run, they can run for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>seat is most interesting to them, whatever policies they're most

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<v Speaker 1>interested in working for. That's the seat that they should

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<v Speaker 1>be running for. It shouldn't be something that hurts you.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be something that literally you use that lived

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<v Speaker 1>experience to become a better legislator. We're twenty seven and healthcare.

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<v Speaker 1>We're the only country other than Papua New Guinea in

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<v Speaker 1>the world without paid family need. Why is that? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that is? Why do you think people

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<v Speaker 1>are against universal childcare and paid maternity ly? Why? I

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<v Speaker 1>think you told us what percentage of women are What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? Six percent percent of all Congress members are

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<v Speaker 1>moms with kids eighteen or younger. That's it. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not a priority for anybody else. It's a priority

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<v Speaker 1>of tax cuts to the top one percent, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a priority to have universal healthcare. We had universal

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<v Speaker 1>childcare during World War Two. They passed the Landom Act.

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<v Speaker 1>They set up three thousand universal child care centers. The

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<v Speaker 1>women could join the workforce. Second the war was over,

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<v Speaker 1>men came back, sent women home. They've disbanded three thousand

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<v Speaker 1>child care centers. We almost had universal child here again

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<v Speaker 1>Nixon vetoed it and said, we don't want the government

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<v Speaker 1>to be too involved in the family life. The reality

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<v Speaker 1>is childcare is one of the most basic economic issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the pandemic, we lost fifty seven billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>year because of the lack of childcare. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have so many in office who understands that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to have policies that actually helped working families and

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<v Speaker 1>the realities by the time you realize how screwed up

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<v Speaker 1>our policies are in this country. As a mother, you're

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<v Speaker 1>too busy trying to survive, to survive new motherhood, to

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<v Speaker 1>survive keeping your job. You don't have time to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and fight for systemic change. I mean, I understood

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<v Speaker 1>this very very well. I knew how bet our policies were.

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<v Speaker 1>But frankly, I thought I would have access to pay leave,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought I'd be able to get into a

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<v Speaker 1>child care center. Neither were true. Neither. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember there was a woman who was in there when

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at one of the child care centers,

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<v Speaker 1>and she knew that her boyfriend was about to propose.

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<v Speaker 1>She literally calculated when he would go, when she would

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<v Speaker 1>get married, when the baby, when she would do you

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<v Speaker 1>know how long? How many forward advanced three years down

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<v Speaker 1>the road, and she put her name on the way

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<v Speaker 1>list three years. I was six months pregnant. I was screwed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to move home to Long Island and

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<v Speaker 1>pray that your mom is available and at a financial

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<v Speaker 1>place where she can, like either retire or only work

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<v Speaker 1>part time so that she can help you part time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful. I moved back to Long Island for free

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<v Speaker 1>childcare so that my mom could watch my babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>I changed my entire work schedule. For the first two years,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked only in the evenings. I was home with babies.

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<v Speaker 1>She came home with three thirty, and then I would

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<v Speaker 1>work from three thirty dinner time, I put everybody to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I'd work all night. Hmm. It seems just

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<v Speaker 1>so herculean. It seems such a huge amount to climb.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so impressed by you trying to fight this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I pray that we see it in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>In your opinion, what's the top country that you would

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<v Speaker 1>like the US to model after. What other country has

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<v Speaker 1>their fucking priorities in the right place? Nor Nordic countries have.

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean Germany. Germany is great, Canada is better, England

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<v Speaker 1>is better. But Nordic countries, it's interesting they have about

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<v Speaker 1>of their legislators are are women, So I always wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it's the fact that they have more women in office.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually have good policies there, or is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they have good policies there that they have more

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<v Speaker 1>women in office? Yeah, what is it the chicken or

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<v Speaker 1>the egg? It comes first. I don't know, it's research

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. Actually, because they have things like

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<v Speaker 1>real paid family leave, paid parentally for both moms and dads.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's so many one countries that have paid

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<v Speaker 1>paternity leave. They should, they should, they need to. That's

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<v Speaker 1>when you actually have men who are connected to their

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<v Speaker 1>child and their wife and the identity shift and like

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<v Speaker 1>making a good human being and all of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Nordic countries I've heard. Is this even true that like

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<v Speaker 1>there's paid maternity and paternity leave for up to a

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<v Speaker 1>year in some cases more. Oh so it's possible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are thriving countries that are doing well, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is possible. Why is it not possible here? We

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<v Speaker 1>don't prioritize spending on children. We have so many children

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<v Speaker 1>live in poverty. One in you know, one and four

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 1>women will go back to work ten days after giving birth.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still bleeding ten days after giving birth. Yeah you're

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<v Speaker 1>still in the diaper, Yeah, you're still in pageant. Going

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<v Speaker 1>back to work you know, I had a friend who

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<v Speaker 1>went back to work because her husband was a contractor

0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't have health insurance, so her her job paid for

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the health insurance because if they had gone on the

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<v Speaker 1>A c A, it wouldn't have covered enough of the

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<v Speaker 1>medicine that he needed. He had a heart condition, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>cover it enough, so she went back to work. She's

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<v Speaker 1>spent all of her salary plus like four dollars of

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<v Speaker 1>his salary just to paper childcare. One of our accounty legislators,

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca Mintiell, who we helped elect in Georgia, she spends

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<v Speaker 1>almost three of her income as a to legislator for

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<v Speaker 1>child here for her four children. You need more people

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<v Speaker 1>like that in office? Is they're the ones who are

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<v Speaker 1>going to prioritize actually taking care of families in this country.

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Do we think that more women and mothers are in

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<v Speaker 1>government because they have an amazing maternity portunity, paid leave

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<v Speaker 1>plan or is it the opposite? And I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what are the benefits in these Nordic countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we seen what the benefits are to supporting families

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<v Speaker 1>in this way? Yeah? So my theory is that it's

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<v Speaker 1>easier to run for office in many of those countries,

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<v Speaker 1>the cycle is not as long. There's publicly funded elections.

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<v Speaker 1>In many cases in the US, when you run for Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, the Dietrich will want you to start running

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<v Speaker 1>in January of the off cycle. Literally, that's two years

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<v Speaker 1>almost a running for profice and you have to raise

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars. If you had publicly financed elections and

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<v Speaker 1>a two month election cycle, it would be a completely

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<v Speaker 1>different story. You know, you look at New York City

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<v Speaker 1>council races right now, they have public funding, they have matching,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, grants, So all of a sudden and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these seats are been have I honestly can't even

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how many candidates, you know, you look at

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>one particular seat, there twelve candidates running. Because it's easier,

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the barriers to entry are now a little bit very easier, right,

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't need millions, and you don't need two years

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<v Speaker 1>of being able to work. In other countries, it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>to run for office, and more people will even step

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<v Speaker 1>up and do it. It's it's difficult, especially for state

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<v Speaker 1>level seats. In the US, it's difficult to get working parents,

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<v Speaker 1>especially working moms, to run for office. There are some

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>state legislators who get paid a hundred dollars percession. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in Virginia you're getting paid seventeen thousand dollars. In George,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's maybe thirty thou dollars. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>these are not livable wages. It's very difficult for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>q is a working parent to somebody who is not

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<v Speaker 1>independently wealthy. The people who usually run for state seats

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<v Speaker 1>independently wealthy are independently wealthy, retired old, much older, so

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<v Speaker 1>that they actually have the ability to It's a weird schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to be able to take lots of

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<v Speaker 1>time off from your regular job. But it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>full time job in many places. There's so much, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so many structural changes that we need to change to

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<v Speaker 1>make running for office something that working parents can do.

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<v Speaker 1>What advice do you have to any of our mother's

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<v Speaker 1>listening who may be fired up run? How do they

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<v Speaker 1>do that? Contact bot mama. That's the first thing. Our

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<v Speaker 1>pack website is about Mama dot org. Our foundation website

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<v Speaker 1>is about Mama Foundation dot org. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that running for office is not as difficult as it seems.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's hard, it is all consuming. You give up

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life to do it in many cases, especially

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're running at the better level. But I remember

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>getting into the race and thinking, oh my god, Peter

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<v Speaker 1>King has been there since I was a kid, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows Everything's so smart. The first debate I had with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had never debated a candidate in the last

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<v Speaker 1>eight years. I remember driving to the library and I

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<v Speaker 1>remember too an entire box that kept abysmal in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the car, and my mom and my husband

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>were driving, and I always like stick to my stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>and they asked the first question and he opened his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth and every nervousness, just all of my nerves just

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<v Speaker 1>drifted out of my body because he didn't know the answer,

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:16.399
<v Speaker 1>and he just genuinely did not care about the constituents.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you think that these people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>office are smart and powerful and have all this experience.

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And women have to be asked seven times on average.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is not for mom. So if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>mom with young kids, you have to be asked like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty times. But women have to be asked seven times

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<v Speaker 1>on average before they even consider running, and most will

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>start thinking I should run for town counsel or school board.

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<v Speaker 1>Men will say should I start with the House through

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. Wow, you are probably more qualified and know

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<v Speaker 1>more about the issues and care more than the person

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to run against. There are so many people

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<v Speaker 1>who are there because it was the right timing or

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the political alliance is aligned. They're not there because they

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<v Speaker 1>work their butts off. There are some people who are

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<v Speaker 1>there because of that, but there are also a lot

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of people there there because they knew the right person

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<v Speaker 1>and they were there at the right time. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>run for office. That's that's my advice. Call us. We

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<v Speaker 1>will help you, and you should run. What about mothers

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>who want to create change but are really terrified of

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the time and giving up their whole life. How is

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it possible to be a mom and create change without

0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>dedicating all the things that you did. Yes, you should

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer for other women, for other moms who are running

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>for office. Again, contact us, reach out, throw a fundraiser.

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>The most important thing that you can do is to

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>raise funds to help get these moms into office. Unfortunately,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>until we have publicly finance selections, you show strength through fundraising. Again,

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>nobody took me seriously until I started to outraise King.

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Once I started to outraise King, everybody was like, oh, Ship,

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>who's this woman. You can raise money, you can have

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the power, you can hire the stuff, you can actually

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 1>get out there and talk to voters. Unfortunately, that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important part right now of running profice is

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you need to You need to be able to raise

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the money to run a campaign. It's hard to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hard to do. So you can help throw fundraiser,

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>if you can help knock on doors, if you can

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<v Speaker 1>help make phone calls, text bank, do anything for other

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>women or other moms running exactly for other moms who

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>are running for seats that you think you can flip. Volunteer.

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<v Speaker 1>Volunteer to raise funds and to get out and talk

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>to voters. It's the most important thing you can do

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>because no one can do it on their own. I

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.959
<v Speaker 1>have the most incredible volunteer team, and because we had

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<v Speaker 1>such great volunteers, we were able to knock on more

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<v Speaker 1>than two doors. I remember thinking in the beginning, how

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to contact all these voters? We did

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<v Speaker 1>it because we had an incredible crew of volunteers. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So impressive. What strategies can moms used to gain confidence

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<v Speaker 1>and talk themselves into going for a higher office position.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will tell you in the beginning, when I

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>started fundraising, I had a really hard time asking for

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<v Speaker 1>max out contributions. I felt guilty. I felt like I

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<v Speaker 1>was asking for money for me and a candidate who

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>was running California who was getting all these max outs.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Torris, and how are you doing this? And

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>she said, you have to stop thinking about it as

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>money for you. It's an investment in your community. You

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>are not running for yourself. You're running for your kids.

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>You're running for your kids friends. You're running for your friends.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>You're running for everybody in your community. You're there to

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<v Speaker 1>be their voice. So if you don't worry about you

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<v Speaker 1>know you yourself, like, what you look like, what you

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>sound like, but you are there to be an advocate

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>for them, and you realize that you're trying to build

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a better community, it changes. There's a perspective shift in this.

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<v Speaker 1>The first televised debate I had with King, I was

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>very nervous. As long as you care, that's all that matters.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember walking out of that debate and my campaign

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>manager who always had something to say. Remember her looking

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>at me and she said, I have I am speechless,

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I have no words. And I remember walking up going

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did terribly. I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was emotional all of this. I watched it the

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<v Speaker 1>next day. I bought a glass of wine. I sat

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>down my mom and my husband. My mom couldn't stop laughing.

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>She had to keep pausing it because she was laughing

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>so hard. She's like, it's like watching you in the

0:31:57.360 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>kitchen yell at me about politics, and it was you

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>just go in there and you yourself. And I will

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you that every mom who I've ever met who's

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<v Speaker 1>run with young kids, none of them are doing it

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<v Speaker 1>as a political crement. They're all doing it because there

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<v Speaker 1>was one particular issue that they reached out to their

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<v Speaker 1>representative about that said you know, I need help with this,

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<v Speaker 1>and either they didn't get any response or they got

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<v Speaker 1>a really nasty your response, and they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this, I'm going to be the change.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly how can we influence change in this country? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think we're going to see Luba? I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're the similar age will our daughters have paid maternity. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it will be good enough, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a start. My daughter is about to be seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think about what her life will be like.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when Donald Trump was selected, and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on the couch watching the numbers roll in, and

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas was nursing and he was a couple of months old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember looking at Nila, who was just too

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking this cannot be the first president that she remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a man who probably boasts actually assaulting woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the president. And I have a two year old,

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<v Speaker 1>and everything that I've done over the last on what

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<v Speaker 1>five years now has been specifically because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>my kids to grow up in a country that treats

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<v Speaker 1>people this way. It will change if we keep working

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<v Speaker 1>to help good people run for office. If you work

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<v Speaker 1>to get good people in topice, people who care about

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<v Speaker 1>the issues, people who are going to fight the good fights,

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<v Speaker 1>who are going to stand up for people who are

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<v Speaker 1>going to pass legislation that actually helps working people in

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<v Speaker 1>this country, it will change. It's not going to change overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at right now with with Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>American Family's Plan it's not your personal childcare. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>the first time we have a president talking about childcare

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<v Speaker 1>as an infrastructure issue. You know when I when I ran,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime I talked about paid leave or childcare, someone would

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<v Speaker 1>always say, stick to the bread and butter issues and

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<v Speaker 1>ignore the women's issues. Oh god, if we had similar

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<v Speaker 1>labor force participation arts to countries like Canada and Germany

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<v Speaker 1>that have paid family that have subsidized childcare, we'd have

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half million more women in the workforce.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd add five hundred billion dollars a year to the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not a woman's issue. It is a family

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<v Speaker 1>issue and economic issue. It's an issue that affects every American.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the first time we saw presidential debates where

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<v Speaker 1>they were talking about child care and paid leave. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is already a ship and because of this pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>because if everything that has happened over the last year,

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<v Speaker 1>you finally are starting to see people understand that it's

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<v Speaker 1>an economic issue, it's an infrastructure issue. People are finally

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to get it. But even the American Families Plan

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go up hard enough. I was going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think of the American Family's Plan, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not universal childcare, it's universal pre K. Basically, what

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<v Speaker 1>they say is affordable is capping what a family spends

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<v Speaker 1>on childcare at seven percent of their income. Biden's plan

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<v Speaker 1>only hast what a family spends up to seven percent

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<v Speaker 1>if you're making one point five times your state's median income.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you live in New York City, you make

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and two thousand dollars a year, which sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot, you could be spending fifty dollars almost

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<v Speaker 1>sixty dollars on childcare if you have two kids in childcare,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty percent of your own If you live in Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>and you're making like eighty and your two kids in childcare,

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<v Speaker 1>you're still spending about your income on childcare. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>percent camp It needs to be for everybody. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to be for people only making up to one

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<v Speaker 1>point five times. So that's the first thing I think

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<v Speaker 1>needs to change. Um. The second thing is there needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be more funding. This does not provide universal childcare

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<v Speaker 1>for so many kids in this country. It doesn't go

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<v Speaker 1>far enough, and it's a great start, it's a down payment,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>but even it doesn't even provide enough funding to to

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<v Speaker 1>get Patty Murray's original bill passed. So that is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that we're talking about it. I mean, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>even seen a president talk about it that haven't be

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<v Speaker 1>in the foreground. So that is great. It's a start.

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<v Speaker 1>The family leave policy is literally only twelve weeks. And

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you you've had baby, you understand that that's nothing. Not

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>saying oh my god, when my friends being like, oh

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>my god, like three months and my my company is

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>never going to make it without me for three months,

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like you, guys, three months is fucking nothing. Even still,

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>you haven't like healed correctly, your stomach abs are not

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.879
<v Speaker 1>back for babies. Eyes are barely open it up. Your

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.799
<v Speaker 1>baby's eyes. Yeah, I know, it's nothing. It's absolutely nothing.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean many countries have a year and more, but

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>there should be bare minimum of six months. And you

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<v Speaker 1>look at you look at childcare. Okay, childcare has been

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<v Speaker 1>a failed industry forever because parents are spending so much money.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you look at the child care workers. The

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<v Speaker 1>people who own child care centers, they operate on razors

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<v Speaker 1>thin margins. So people who work at child your centers

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<v Speaker 1>are overwhelmingly women. Of color, and they're getting paid, if

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>they're lucky, ten dollars an hour. So, for instance, if

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 1>you work in a kindergarten, you get paid thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. If you work in a child care center,

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you're getting paid ten dollars an hour. Half of our

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>child care center workers literally live on public assistance. They

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>can't afford to even send their own kids to save childcare.

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is an industry that does not work without

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<v Speaker 1>proper investment. We need to invest in in childcare the

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>way that we invest in kindergarten through high school. It

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a public good. What are some straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>easy to understand resources that parents can refer to in

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>order to learn more about candidates and all the causes

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.920
<v Speaker 1>they stand for. Go to our websites. You can start

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>there the Foundation website. We'll talk to you all about

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>policy and exactly what we're doing. There are tool kids,

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>we have social media toolkits, we have legislator toolkits, we

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.920
<v Speaker 1>have candidate toolkits. We have everything that you need on

0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 1>the Foundation website, the pack website, you can apply if

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>you're running for office, but you can click on all

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of our all of our candidates, all of the people

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 1>that we're supporting the moms across the country and learn

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>about them and learn about their races and support them. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you here. I just think this is all so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're all are really walking the walk. Finish

0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this sentence. Parenthood is hard and incredible. You can't really

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>separate them. My husband, we were in the grocery store

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the other day and we had all three of them

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>with us, and somebody came up to us and it

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>was a man, of course, and it's like, I don't

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>miss those days. And my husband's like, I don't know

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna miss these days. I don't think I'm

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 1>going to. And I looked at only I'm gonna miss

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>these days Like it is physically like somebody actually said that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like when you have young kids, it's like all

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 1>it's all physical. It's physically consuming, you're trying to protect them,

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and then as they get older, it's much more emotionally consuming.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't gotten to that art yet, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>miss these days. I it is hard as hell. It

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 1>is literally all consuming, but it's the most incredible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I Mean, you get a front rosie to the most

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>incredible thing ever. You're literally raising tiny little people and

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<v Speaker 1>getting to see them grow from these babies into these

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>people with their own thoughts. You know, my daughter one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite moments of my campaign, she was three

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and we were at the governor. Governor

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>was signing the paper mean Ye Villa, New York. It

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<v Speaker 1>was New Year's Eve, and she said to me after

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<v Speaker 1>he finished speaking, she said, Mama, are you're going to

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>get up there and speak? And I said, no, baby,

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not my event. And she ran up to the

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<v Speaker 1>podium and she asked me to pick her up, and

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<v Speaker 1>she gave a speech and her pepper pig dress and

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<v Speaker 1>it's all. My favorite photo from the entire campaign is

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<v Speaker 1>Milia speech because she learned that that's normal. Ah, how awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I love parenthood. It's crazy and amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful, Luba. I cannot thank you enough. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on Katie's crib. I've learned so

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<v Speaker 1>much today, And you know, I usually feel pretty heartbroken

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>about this stuff and feel like it's just such a

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>mountain to climb, especially paid family leave, and especially are

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<v Speaker 1>horrible universal stile care issues, and I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>vote Mama for everyone listening Vote Mama. It's Vote Mama

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<v Speaker 1>dot org and Vote Mama Foundation dot org. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go to to really look into all the candidates, learn

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 1>about them. You can figure out how you can get

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>help if you're interested and dangling your tosias in figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out how to run, and also figuring out if you

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 1>don't want to run yourself, how you can help, how

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<v Speaker 1>you can volunteer for Vote Mama, or volunteer for some

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.399
<v Speaker 1>candidate in your area, or help fundraise or help knock

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>on doors, all of these things. We've got to work

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<v Speaker 1>together as mo moms to get some real structural changes happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, it's a it's a mountain, but we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta do it, guys, we gotta do what. We

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta do it together. Thank you so much Luba for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. Thank you, this was a lot of fun.

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