1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: We have just wrapped up the Republican National Convention, and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: I have to tell you it is really refreshing to 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: see American flags that are not on fire after the 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: past several weeks and months. Nice to see a little 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: bit of patriotism. I don't think there could have been 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: a starker contrast between the two parties as we head 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: into November, and we will get into all of it 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: with someone who knows all of the players, set knows 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: all of the issues, and is deeply involved in everything 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: that we're looking forward to, not just in November, but 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: moving forward afterward. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: back to Verdict. I'm Michael Noles. Is a very special episode. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: We simply could not wait to get this stream out tonight, 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: so this one is going alive. It occurred to us 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: with everything that's going on, we hadn't even been able 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: to cover the DNC, and obviously the RNC took place. Senator, 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that I accidentally spread fake 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: news earlier today. I told people on our previous stream 19 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: when I was on Daily Wire, I said that you 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: were in Washington right now, but your schedule is so 21 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: hectic that turns out you're not even in Washington. Well, 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: that's true. I'm in the great state of Texas, although 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: when I woke up this morning, I didn't know where 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: for sure I would be. You know, we obviously had 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: a hurricane late last night that made landfall right at 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: the Texas Louisiana border, and so I had been planning 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: this morning to fly up to Washington and be at 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the White House for the President's acceptance speech. But we 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: were obviously monitoring the hurricane closely, and so I got 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: up this morning about six am and talked to my team. 31 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: The hurricane had made landfall late last night, and we 32 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: were assessing where the damage was, and we made the decision, 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: which which frankly I thought was pretty likely. But we 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: made the decision that I needed to go and survey 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the damage and meet with the local officials. And so 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: went down, went down and jumped on a on a 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Coastguard helicopter UH and flew to East Texas, flew to Orange, Texas, 38 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: which is right near the border with Louisiana, and then 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: went up and did a tour of the areas that 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: were impacted by the hurricane. And UH, you know, I 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: gotta say Texas. At least we were blessed. We were 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: really spared what could have been much, much, much worse. 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: At about two or three in the morning last night, 44 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: the hurricane shifted course and moved east about thirty miles 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: and it ended up hitting Louisiana much much worse. But 46 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: but it had the effect also sparing much of Texas, 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and so there was some wind damage in far East Texas, 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: there was some flooding, but it was really Louisiana that 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: that took the braun of the hit. And and I 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: have to say, having been through multiple hurricanes, including obviously 51 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Hurricane Harvey, which was the most devastating certainly of my lifetime, 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: I think everyone was grateful that this was not nearly 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: as bad as it could have been. I'm so pleased 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: to hear it, because obviously we've all been, you know, 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: focused on national politics and this issue and that issue 56 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: and these rioters, and that you forget that a natural 57 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: disaster can strike and kind of puts puts everything on pause. 58 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: So it's I'm you certainly did the right thing by 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: going down surveying the damage, even even if it might 60 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: have been more fun to be at the Republican Party 61 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: in DC. But but you were able to watch some 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: of the convention, so I was, and and it did 63 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: lead lead to right now, we're revisiting what was really 64 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the birth of Verdict, which is we're doing an episode 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: at at at nearly midnight, you know, for the same 66 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: reason because all of Washington was going late late into 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: the night and the President just finished his speech not 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: long ago, and I jumped in the car and drove 69 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: over to the studio and now we're live. And I 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: have to say, this is something that maybe people don't 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: know about you, but I have seen it up close 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: many times. You're nocturnal, you never sleep. You seem to 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: have more energy at two in the morning than you 74 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: do it two in the afternoon. I am a night 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: owl and I hate mornings. Like if I ever had 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: to do a morning show, I think it killed me. Yeah, 77 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: but but but you know, a midnight show i'd be 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: I'd be all on board with that. Yeah, that's maybe. 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll just set it there all the time. I 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: don't know how happy my wife would be about that, 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: but that's okay. If we'll do it, we'll do it 82 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: for the show. Actually, speaking of that, speaking the origins 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: of Verdict, Our first question in from Laurel is a 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: simple question, but I think a lot of people maybe 85 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: don't know the answer. What is a verdict? So um? 86 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: A verdict in in legal sense obviously is the judgment 87 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: of the court and and and it's the judgment of 88 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: a jury, typically of guilt or in a sense, uh 89 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: in a criminal case, or the judgment of whether the 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: plaintiff or defendant prevails in a civil case. And and 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: it is well, don't know, I'm not going to intrude 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: on you. I was going to say what it's from 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: in the Latin. But but but let me not step 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: on the great Michael Knowles is to tell so tell 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: us what is it in the Latin mind? Well, in 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: the Latin, since you bring it up, Senator, it means 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: a true saying ver like for truth and dickt like dictum, 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, a saying. And so we try to obviously 99 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: speak the truth on this show. And Senator, you know, 100 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: in our in our absolutely populoust appeal, every so often 101 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: we have to get into Latin etymology. We have to 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: cover everything everything on the Yeah, yeah, so uh you know, 103 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: as you know right now, if if you are watching 104 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: this on YouTube, send your questions in you put your 105 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 1: questions into the live chat, we will of course answer 106 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: them live. We've got another question. This is from Stephen, 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know that I know the answer or 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: to this. How does an average citizen go about proposing 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: legislation to their elected representatives? Um? Well, there are lots 110 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: of avenues of communicating. What one can certainly do is 111 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: call either your representative, or you can call your senator. 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: You can go by and try to visit, uh with 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: their staff to and typically either a representative senator will 114 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: have staff both in DC and in the home district. Um. 115 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: You can you can write something. You can write an 116 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: op ed and suggest it. You find some way to 117 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: come up with a good idea and uh, and you 118 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: know I'll give an interesting example of that. So so look, 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: we know actually how legislation gets proposed. You remember the 120 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: schoolhouse rock. I'm just a bill, uh, you know, sitting 121 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: on the steps of Capitol Hill. And I will not 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: um injure anyone's ears by trying to sing it, because 123 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I can't carry a tune to save my life. But 124 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: an interesting story of a bill that was proposed by 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: some New Jersey high school students, and it somehow came 126 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: to the attention and I don't remember exactly how of 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: Alabama's Senator Doug Jones, a Democrat, and it was a 128 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: bill to take the records from cold cases civil rights 129 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: cases from the nineteen fifties or sixties, so a church bombing, 130 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: a clan murder, or something, but a case that had 131 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: never been solved. And the idea of the New Jersey 132 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: High school students was to put these records, make them public, 133 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: and let citizen journalist go try to solve the case. 134 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Fifty sixty seventy years later, and somehow Doug heard about this, 135 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: and so he was giving a floor speech on the 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Senate floor as a brand new freshman. He was talking 137 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: about that he'd introduced a bill to do this, that 138 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: he'd heard that idea, he liked the idea, and I 139 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: was presiding. And so the way it works in the 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: Senate is the majority party gets to preside, and it 141 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: typically rotates between the more junior senators, either first term 142 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: or second term senators. You typically preside for maybe an 143 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: hour a week. So I just happened. I was in 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: the chair and Doug was standing there and he was 145 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: talking about this idea, and I try to listen when 146 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: people get floor speeches. By the way, a speech on 147 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the Senate floor usually as to an empty cavernous room 148 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: and c span and no one's listening. But I listened 149 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: to what Doug was saying, thought it was an interesting idea, 150 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: and so I went down afterwards, said hey, let's do 151 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: this together. We teamed up together, work together, and passed 152 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: the bill into law. So it started with New Jersey 153 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: high school students and it ended up being a good 154 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: idea and getting passed into law. Well, so this is 155 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: a hugely important aspect of it. And then I know 156 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: some people have asked about the deep state, you know, 157 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: or the administrative state, or the bureaucracy, which seems like 158 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: makes a lot of laws for people, but they're they're 159 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: not accountable. You can't call your senator, you can't call 160 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: your congressman. And I know this is an issue you've 161 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: talked about quite a lot. Well, yeah, I mean it's 162 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: one of the massive problems of the administrative state, and 163 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: for that matter, of judicial activism. Right, you have government 164 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: officials that are completely unaccountable. Federal judges have life tenure, 165 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: and so if they're if they're enacting policy, you don't 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: have a constraint over them. Bureaucrats many of their views, 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: as they will outlast every elected official. They're the permanent government, 168 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: and whoever's coming and going is just sort of a 169 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: temporary irritant. Yeah. And it's one of the great virtues 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: of our constitution is accountability. And so I think it's 171 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: really important to have as much decision making as possible 172 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: in the elected parts of government. And also, I mean 173 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: that's really separation of powers at the federal level, but 174 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: also as much decision making and policies at the state 175 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: or local level, because all of that increases accountability, it 176 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: empowers the people. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Question and from Daniel, 177 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: could you guys explain the Hatch Act? Uh, somewhat, although 178 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert, and it's the general principle on 179 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: the Hatch Act is it restricts many, many federal employees 180 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: from from engaging in politics. Yeah, and so there are 181 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: some exceptions to it, some are allowed to do so, 182 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: but as a general matter, the kind of run of mill, 183 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: run of the mill federal employee, the Hatch Act bars 184 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: them from engaging in politics because the idea behind it 185 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: is they don't want to politicize our government. It also 186 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: prohibits using official assets, So you know, I can't I 187 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: can't do a political thing in my Senate office. I'm 188 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to do that. That would be a violation. 189 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: It's actually, I think, not technically the Hatch Act for Congress. 190 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: It's the Senate Ethics rules, but it's the same principle. Yeah. 191 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: And the reason everyone is asking is there's lots of 192 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: chatter about the president's speech tonight on the White House 193 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: and whether that violated the Hatch Act. Short answer for 194 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: me is, I don't know. I haven't studied that question. 195 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: The argument that it doesn't violate the Hatch Act. As 196 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: I understand, it is their portions of the White House 197 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: that are considered the president's residence that are separate from 198 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: the official parts. So, as I understand the argument, he 199 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: would not have been able to give that speech in 200 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: the Oval office, but the South Lawn is essentially his residence. 201 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: It's also COVID and so these are extraordinary times. But 202 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: to be fair, I haven't studied the legal arguments on 203 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: either side, so so I don't know who who has 204 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: the better of that argument, right, And there was a 205 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: moment during the President's speech where he said this is 206 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: the White House, really though I think of it as 207 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: a home, and perhaps that there was a nod at 208 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: this controversy that Democrats are cooking up. A question from Meetsa. 209 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Nietsa says, Hello, I'm a young conservative and plan to 210 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: open up a business later in my life. Then use 211 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: that money to campaign for Congress. Wow, it's a full plan. 212 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: So my question to Senator Cruz is what are your 213 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: best campaign suggestions? Get involved in an issue you care 214 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: about and fight for it rather than just run for 215 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: office and have all these ideas. Go fight for something 216 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: that matters and build a record, and so that when 217 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: you do run, you can point to what you've done 218 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: and you've said, Look, you want to know what I believe, 219 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: look at what I've been fighting for. And so you 220 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: can be engaged in whatever issue motivates you, get your 221 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: get your blood boiling, go and build a record on that. Yeah, yep. 222 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: From Paul, what is the deepest reason why the Democrats 223 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: won't disavow Antifa or the rioters? What philosophical hang ups 224 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: keep them from taking a stance against political violence? You know, 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: I gotta say for Paul that that is a great question. 226 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. Um, you know, a couple 227 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: of weeks ago I chared a hearing on Antifa violence 228 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: and mob violence, and we heard really chilling testimony about 229 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: all of the assaults, the assaults on police officers, the violence. 230 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: Seven Democratic senators participated in that hearing, and not a 231 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: one of them was willing to denounce Antifa, and and 232 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: and there's it's interesting the Democrats. They have a message 233 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: discipline to them. I mean, I mean, look, part of 234 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: it is Democrats believe in government. They're collectivists, and so 235 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: when they have orders, they follow orders. I mean, it's yes, comrade, 236 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: And they all say the same damn thing. Um, you know, 237 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: Republicans we can barely agree on what time of day 238 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, we bigger like crazy. And look, 239 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: a little bit is that you've got some individualists. So 240 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: you've got you know, any party that has Susan Collins 241 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and Ran Paul in it is a party with a 242 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of diversity because they and everyone else there's a 243 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: lot of disagreement. So for whatever reason, at that hearing, 244 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: it was clear the Democratic talking points had gone out 245 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: that whenever Antifa or BLM violences is raised, simply attack 246 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: and say it's right wing violence, that it's a problem. 247 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: That was their talking point, and so they'd say, well, 248 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: what about the clan, what about Nazis? And look, of 249 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: course my response is the clan clan and Nazis are ignorant, 250 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: bigoted racists and if they commit violence, we should lock 251 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: them up in jail. Like I don't have a problem 252 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: denouncing them hired, how about you? How about Antifa and crickets. 253 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of it is fear that 254 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: that you know right now the Democratic Party, it's driven 255 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: by angry voices and maybe they're scared to take them on. 256 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of it is in the 257 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. There's kind of a a glorifying of nineteen 258 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: sixties protests, and you know, it's sort of part of 259 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: the self narrative of a lot of Democrats as we're 260 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: back at Berkeley and we're, you know, protesting against Vietnam. 261 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: You know his famous story of Reagan when he was 262 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: governor driving through Berkeley during protests and there were a 263 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: bunch of hippies who were yelling and screaming in a protest, 264 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: and that they that they either held up a sign 265 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: or they chanted we are the future, and Reagan grabbed 266 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: a pad of paper and he scrawled on it and 267 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: held it up to the window and said, I'll sell 268 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: my bonds. So maybe that's some of it that they 269 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: identify with protesters. But I also think some of it 270 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: is there's a woke identity politics that that particularly because 271 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: much of this violence arose in the context of questions 272 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: of racial justice. I think Democrats are terrified to say 273 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: anything criticizing someone who they perceive as a racial justice warrior, 274 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: even if they're committing horrific and organized acts of violence. 275 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: So so I don't know what's driving it, but some 276 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: combination of those factors I do know the end result, 277 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: which is, you know, we went through a Democratic convention 278 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: last week where we've got cities on fire, police officers 279 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: being attacked, being murdered, and the Democrats are unable or 280 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: unwilling to bring themselves to condemn it. Yeah, that's right, 281 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: And I think you make a great point. It hadn't 282 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: really occurred to me in all of this madness, but 283 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: this glorification of the nineteen sixties protests and rioting and 284 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: violence in some cases is still there even with these 285 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: boomer Democrats who don't don't ever seem to have really 286 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: left Berkeley. Maybe they did physically mental It's weird, Michael. Yeah, 287 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: even though they glorify protesters, leftist today don't believe in 288 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: free speech right right, It's a very weird. You know. Look, 289 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about free speech, and I believe you've got 290 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: a right to advocate any view you want, no matter 291 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: how idiotic. I look, I defend people who attack me 292 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: because you've got a right to do it. What you 293 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: don't have a right to do is violence. And what's 294 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: strange about today's left is when it comes to someone 295 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: speaking on college campus, or speaking in their job, or 296 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: speaking anywhere else and saying some view that is inconsistent 297 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: with their orthodoxy, they'll get you fired, they'll silence you. 298 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they're perfectly happy to stifle free speech. But 299 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, there was a CNN 300 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: still shot that was making the rounds on Twitter today 301 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: of you know, building just totally in flames, and the 302 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: chiron at the bottom was and I'm maybe getting this 303 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: slightly wrong, what was something to the effect of, although fiery, 304 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: largely peaceful protest and it's literally all on frigging fire 305 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: like fire is not peaceful. This is not a complicated concept. 306 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: If you light someone on fire, you're not being peaceable 307 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: to them. And this didn't used to be a contribute 308 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: virtual notion. This is also the second time the mainstream 309 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: media have done this. We now have screenshots on MSNBC, 310 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: n CNN of reporters standing in front of whole buildings 311 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: on fire. And it's mostly peaceful. It's mostly ignore, there's 312 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: nothing to see here, pay no attention to the man 313 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: behind the curtain. Just for the sake of argument, let 314 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: me ask you the phrase burn it all down? Is 315 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: that ever a peaceful notion? Like like, why does one 316 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: burn things down? And it's look, we just see CNN 317 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: as a propagandist. We see much of the mainstream media 318 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: as propagandists right now, right, that's right? And you know, 319 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: speaking of burning, I mean, I think the Democrats are 320 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: caught in this issue, which is that they've encouraged the protests. 321 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: They've encouraged the riots in some cases, and when you 322 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: play with fire, you might get burned. And I think 323 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: they're seeing that probably in the polling. Speaking of polling, 324 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: a dean wants to know this is an important issue. 325 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: It keeps coming up as people talk about the election. 326 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: How does the GOP win over more suburban women voters. Look, 327 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: it's a great question. We've talked a lot on Verdict 328 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: about what I think are the two broadest demographic trends 329 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: in the US politically, which is number one, blue collar 330 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: voters moving right, that's moving Midwestern states more Republican yea. 331 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: And number two, suburban voters, especially suburban women, moving left. 332 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: That's moving big suburban states like Georgia, like Texas, like 333 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: Arizona are all getting more purple. You know, it's interesting. 334 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I think there's a very real possibility this week and 335 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: last week we may look back on them as a 336 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: real turning point in this campaign. And I don't mean 337 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: it for the traditional reason. Look, we kind of expect 338 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: conventions to have a bounce. I mean that's sort of traditionally. 339 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: One side has their convention, they get a bounce, their 340 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: numbers go up in the polls. The other side has 341 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: their convention, they get to bounce, their numbers go up 342 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: in the polls. I actually not focused on the conventions 343 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: as much, although I think the Democratic Convention was was 344 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: very ineffective last week, and I think the Republicans did 345 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: a very good job with our convention this week. But 346 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: but I actually think it was a broader turning point 347 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: the violence we saw in places like Kenosha. And I 348 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: think as we've seen this violence continue, not just in 349 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath of George Floyd's death, but continuing week 350 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: after week after week, I do think there are a 351 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: lot of folks who may not even be all that political, 352 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: who are seeing this and understandably saying this. This is 353 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: a little scary, you know. I know you've seen and 354 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: our viewers are really engaged. So I suspect a lot 355 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: of our viewers. I've seen the video of these angry 356 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: leftist mobs screaming at people having dinner. You know, there's 357 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: one of this woman having dinner and they're demanding put 358 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: your fist in the air for black power. And it's 359 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's screaming angry. If you don't salute what 360 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: we demand, we're gonna berate you. And there's a real 361 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: threat of or worse, there's a I mean, the threat 362 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: of violence is in the air. And and I do 363 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: think and you know why I think it may be 364 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: something of a turning point is we're suddenly seeing Democrats 365 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: react like they touched a hot stove. They're suddenly realized, 366 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: oh crap, people don't like it when their cities are 367 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: on fire and like people are threatening violence to them. 368 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: And it's it's been even the past couple of days 369 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: where it seems like we may have reached a little 370 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 1: bit of a tipping point on this. We'll see if 371 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: we have, but but I do think the angry radicals 372 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: are getting more and more extreme, and I feel confident 373 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: the Joe Biden campaign is sitting there right now saying, 374 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: what the hell do we do about this? This is dangerous? 375 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: That's right, and you know it's it's good in some 376 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: ways to make wonkish arguments about tax rates or trade 377 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: policy or or what have you. There is a place 378 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: for that. When the country's on fire, That's not what 379 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: people are thinking about. They're thinking about who's burning down 380 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: the country, who's trying to put water on those fires, 381 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Who you know, wants to tear down George Washington, and 382 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: who wants to look forward to an American future that 383 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: resonates with people, even if even if you don't have 384 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: your nose in white papers from think tanks and that 385 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Question from people want to be prosperous 386 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: but but but even more fundamentally, people want to be safe. Yes, yes, yeah, 387 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, And I do think that the basic contrast 388 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: between the two conventions on the Republican side the kind 389 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: of core messages will keep you safe and we're gonna 390 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: fight for you to have a job, and the Democratic 391 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: side not promising to keep anyone safe. And on the economy, 392 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: they don't really have a message either other than we 393 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: hate Trump. Yeah, and so we're going to raise taxes 394 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: that have massive regulations. But trust us, it'll be great 395 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: for the economy. And you know, I think a lot 396 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: of people are pretty pretty smart and realize, well, that 397 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it's great for the economy. Yeah, yeah, 398 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: that's right. And when you have when you have Democrats, 399 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, led by the future of the Democratic Party. 400 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: As a DNC chairman, Tom Perez Cooll's AOC talking about 401 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: the Green New Deal, this ninety three trillion dollar plan 402 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: by by some estimates, I don't think people look at 403 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: that and say this is going to lead to prosperity. 404 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: Now on this so let me actually dis agree with 405 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: Paris on one thing. I don't think she's the future 406 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party. I think she's the president. You know. 407 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, I was up in Alaska, 408 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: which by the way, was very cool, and Heidie and 409 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: I and the girls went up there and I went 410 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: up there to campaign for Dan Sullivan, who is the 411 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: Senator from there. He's a good friend and he's up 412 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: for re election and I was campaigning for him, and 413 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: one of it, we did several events for Dan. And 414 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: one of the things I said at each of the events, 415 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: as I said, you may not realize it, but AOC 416 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: is on the ballot in Alaska. And I mean people 417 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: are really kind of puzzled and startled. What do you 418 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: mean she's on the ballot in Alaska? I said, Listen, 419 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: if if this is a bad election, if if Democrats win, 420 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: and if they take the Senate, and that's a real possibility, 421 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer will be majority leader. But as a practical matter, 422 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer has seen all of these Democrats being primaried 423 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: from the left and losing. And Schumer is up in 424 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and if he becomes a majority leader, 425 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: he is going to be utterly terrified of being primaried 426 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: by AOC. And for all intents and purposes, that will 427 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: make AOC effectively the Senate majority leader, because whatever she demands, 428 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: he's going to be so scared of that primary challenge 429 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: that I think he'd be more than happy to jump 430 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: to her tune. And it was kind of an interesting 431 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: point for Alaskans to think about it, and and I was saying, look, 432 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: Alaska is a great bellweather where if Sullivan loses, and 433 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: and Alaska's has elected both Democrats and Republicans, it's a 434 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: state that has shown it can vote either way. If 435 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Alaska loses, and their number states for which this is true, 436 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: there's a real possibility Schumer's majority leader and AOC is 437 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: driving the train and setting the agenda in the Democratic 438 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Party today, not tomorrow in the future. You know, as 439 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: a native New Yorker, I'm not even an Alaskan, I 440 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: have no excuse that hadn't occurred to me. But there 441 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: has been chattered that AOC could primary Chuck Schumer, and 442 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: you're right. Effectively, what that means is AOC is going 443 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: to be calling the shots even more than she already is, 444 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: and she obviously is already wielding a lot of influence. 445 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: And Schumer's a political being which means like his only 446 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: objective will be to stop that, and and so just 447 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: as a practical matter, that means he's going to be terrified. 448 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: He does not want to let her outflank him to 449 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: the left in any respect. You know, minority leader, that's 450 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: much less of a problem. But if he actually controls 451 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: a Senate majority, yeah, that's that could be very dangerous. 452 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: They do have a saying in New York. I think, 453 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: even still with the riots and all the mayhem, that 454 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: the most dangerous place in the state of New York 455 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: is between Chuck Schumer and a television camera. So I 456 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: think that is the issue. I have heard that although 457 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I will confess a affinity for TV cameras is not 458 00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: a unique sin in Washington among Chuck Schumer. That's I 459 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: can imagine. It's a maybe an occupational hazard down there. 460 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: A question from Matt, Hey, guys, love your work. How 461 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: do we know that the right is correct and that 462 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: true political reality doesn't lie somewhere in the middle of 463 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: the political scale. I guess what Matt's asking is. You know, 464 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: as you senator, you're probably one of the most conservative 465 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: guys in all of Washington, DC. Why should we be 466 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: strong conservatives? And not squishes. Well, look, I would say, 467 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: don't don't accept my word for it. Don't accept it 468 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: on faith test the propositions. Read both sides, study both sides, 469 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, spend time listening to what the left says, 470 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: listening look to the right says, and even you know, 471 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: how do we know the right is correct? One of 472 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: the things, And we talked about this before, there's a 473 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: lot of diversity on the right in terms of what 474 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: is even whether you're you know, a paleo conservative, a 475 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: neo conservative, a libertarian, half these things. I mean, I 476 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: barely know what they mean. But there are sharp differences 477 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: of opinion when it comes to foreign policy within the 478 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: whole world on the right, when it comes to the 479 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: role of government within the whole world on the right. 480 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: What I would say is take the time to think 481 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: through and analyze the issues one side. The left though 482 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: right now, doesn't want you to do that. The fact 483 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: that they're willing to use coersion to silence views that 484 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: contradict Look, I mean, you know, you look at college 485 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: campuses where they won't allow conservative speakers to come. When 486 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: I was in school, when I was in law school 487 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: at Harvard, there were more openly Marxist professors on the 488 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: faculty than there were Republicans. Yeah, and it wasn't even close. 489 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: There was one open Republican on the faculty, Charles Freed, 490 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: who who worked in the Reagan administration as Solicitor General. 491 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: M I worked as a research assistant for him. And 492 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: by the way, Charles Freed, who at the time was 493 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: the loan Republican on the faculty, voted for Barack Obama, 494 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: so that he ended up even he ended up voting democratic. Wow, 495 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: there were and are multiple open Marxist and you know, 496 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting. One one person who listens to our podcast, Michael, 497 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: is Heidi. And look, you and I are both married. 498 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: The fact that my wife actually listens to what we 499 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: say a is complimentary. But but I'll tell you she 500 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: kind of chewed us out recently and said, you guys 501 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: are getting too dogmatic and preaching to the choir too much. 502 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: And and and the reason she listens to it is 503 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: she says, listen, I'm really busy. And what she said, 504 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: and it's the same thing we've heard a lot on 505 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: this show, is she says, I learned things from the show, 506 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: spend a little more time. And she actually brought up like, 507 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, you talked about several of the organizers of 508 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: BLM or avowed Marxist. She said, a lot of people 509 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: don't know what Marxist are. And it reminds me we 510 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time early in impeachment kind of 511 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: tapping the brakes and saying, Okay, what is this, what 512 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: does this mean? And look, Marxism is a philosophy. It 513 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: was propagated by Karl Marx. Obviously it's the foundation of communism, 514 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: but but it it advocates it. It it views history 515 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: through a lens of class warfare. Yeah, and a battle 516 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: of the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie, the working people versus 517 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: the property owners, and and it calls for a revolution. 518 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: Marxism it's an approach to history, it's an approach to government. 519 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: But and it advocates socialism as its economic system. So 520 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: socialism is just the economic arm of Marxism. It's but 521 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Marxism also consistently says we need actually phrase I think 522 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: it was. Lennon used a dictatorship of the proletariat, which 523 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: is inevitably to get to Marxism, you have to have 524 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: a totalitarian government come in and take the property from 525 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: the people who have it. And what happens every single 526 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: time is the Marxist who have power live like kings, 527 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: and everyone else lives in misery. And so when someone 528 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: is a Marxist, they are advocating for the principles reflected 529 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: in the Communist Manifesto that Karl Marx wrote that that 530 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: advocated for Marxism anyway. So I give, I'm not going 531 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: to necessarily tell you the right is always correct on everything. 532 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: What I am going to say is that I believe, 533 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 1: if you look at the evidence, free enterprises more successful 534 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: than socialism in terms of lifting people's economic welfare, combating poverty, 535 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: producing prosperity. And I also believe that our constitutional liberties 536 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: are important, and that includes the pluralism and diversity of 537 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: thought that free speech and religious liberty and all the 538 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: rest allows that that that if you don't agree, go 539 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: make your case and convince your fellow citizens that's right, 540 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: and look at the evidence. You know, as you say 541 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: in these socialists never seem to get to that Marxism 542 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: where everybody's free and equal. I was reminded of an 543 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: expression I once heard someone asked the difference between socialism 544 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: and communism and they said, well, Christians go to heaven 545 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: and socialists go to communism, and the problem is you 546 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: don't get heaven on earth, so it never never seems 547 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: to materialize. I do also want to get I give 548 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: a simpler answer, which is the differences in AK forty evan. 549 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: It's more visual socialisms the economic system. But but inevitably 550 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: it gets enforced in communism with brute force and oppression. 551 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I also want to remind all of our viewers right now, 552 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: we have a lot of viewers right now live to 553 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: click that subscribe button, ring the bell. We really appreciate it. 554 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: That way you will get notifications so long as big 555 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: tech does not shut us down, which I'm sure is 556 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: always a possibility. 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We've got 564 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot of views at this point you know, the 565 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: show hit number one unexpectedly in the first couple of 566 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: weeks of it, and we just appreciate all of our listeners. 567 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: Sticking around question from Venray Law, somebody tells me that's 568 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: not the name that your parents gave you, ven Ray, 569 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: but I like it anyway. Hey, Senator, why do you 570 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: think it took tonight's speech to mention David Dorne on 571 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: the mainstream media despite the mainstream media's support for black 572 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: Lives matter, Because the media are hypocrites and they're pitching 573 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: an ideological message. And Dorn's speech was incredible, yeah and powerful. 574 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: So and Dorn is the widow of David Dorn, a 575 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: retired Saint Louis police officer who was murdered in the riots, 576 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: and he is African American. And when when you have 577 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: people screaming black lives matter, apparently David Dorn's is not 578 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: included because because he was murdered in the violence by 579 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the rioters and and his wife her speech. It's one 580 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: of the things I think the RNC better than the DNC, 581 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: as it told real stories. I'm actually glad they had 582 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: a lot fewer politicians on the RNC. Yeah, um, I 583 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: I you know, I think listening uh to to an 584 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: An Dorn or Clarence Henderson or or or the stories 585 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: that were told were really powerful. And and and her 586 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: story now she's a police sergeant as well, and and 587 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: she told the story of of of waking up and 588 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: finding out he'd been murdered, that he'd gone he was 589 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: he was retired and was working security to pawn shop 590 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: and the alarm went off and he went went went 591 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: to the pawn shop and was was murdered by the 592 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: rioters and looters. And in any sane conversation, we ought 593 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: to be talking about the victims of this violence and 594 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: and and and those that that uh have have been murdered. 595 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: But but the media doesn't want you to know that. 596 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: And it's part of it is we've talked about this before. 597 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has broken the media. Yeah, that's right. It 598 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: you used to see the media. CNN is a great 599 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: example where they try to be balanced. Um, they're not anymore. 600 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting. I watched the President's speech tonight 601 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: at home on CNN. I don't know why, but that 602 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: just happened to be what I turned on. And did 603 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: you did you watch it on CNN? Do you remember 604 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: what network you watch, Well, no, Senator, I assume you 605 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: must live in an airport if you were watching it 606 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: on CNN. That's the only place I ever see CNN live. Now, 607 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: I was actually watching it on c SPAN because we 608 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: were doing the stream, but sometimes I will click on 609 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: just to see the left wing commentary on it. So 610 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: what was fascinating on CNN is when they were airing 611 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: the president's speech. Um, when he got to talking about 612 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: coronavirus and COVID nineteen, they put up at the bottom 613 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 1: a chart of the number of cases of COVID nineteen 614 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: in the US and the number of people who've died 615 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: on COVID nineteen. And then they began doing a real 616 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: time what I guess they were pitching is fact checking 617 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: of the president's speech. And so it was denominated facts 618 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: first and so. And they just did this during the 619 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen portion of the speech. I mean, he spoke 620 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: seventy minutes and it was just during the you know 621 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, eight ten minutes that he 622 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: was talking about about the pandemic. And so the first 623 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: one said something like for months, you know, facts first, 624 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: for months. The President dismissed the seriousness of this crisis. 625 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: So the first one was really tendentious. It was political, 626 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: it was and I don't remember that. The second one 627 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: was equally political, and so like the first, I almost 628 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: turned it off. It was really ticking me off, Like 629 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 1: have you ever seen a network covering either political party's 630 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: nominee putting at the bottom what they call fact checking, 631 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: disputing what he said? Like it was really like, who 632 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: in the hell do they think they are? Like you're 633 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: literally listening to the nominee's speech and they're gonna put 634 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: under him. But you know, it was fascinating. So that's 635 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: in part an answer to why they don't want to 636 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: say the name of David Dorne. They don't like telling 637 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: that story. They don't like telling the story of the 638 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: other officers assaulted, attacked, and murdered. But an interesting flip side, 639 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: they did include one. I guess you'd call it a 640 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: pro Trump fact fact check, and I guess somebody felt like, okay, 641 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: we can't only put fact checks saying we disagree with 642 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: the president, And the pro Trump one they put up 643 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: was fascinating. It was when the President was talking about 644 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's going to shut down the entire economy, and 645 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: they said facts. First, Joe Biden said he would shut 646 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: down the United States if scientists recommended it to him, 647 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: and I got to say that fact check. I don't 648 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: think CNN realizes how devastating that fact check. And it's true, 649 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: but but you rarely get journalist acknowledging things that are true. 650 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Biden did say that, yeah, but I think 651 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: that is an absolutely devastating emission that, yes, Joe Biden 652 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,919 Speaker 1: wants to shut down the entire economy and take away 653 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 1: your job. And they're like, yep, that's what he said. 654 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: And so it was an interesting I don't know how 655 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: that slipped through. I'm wondering if some CNN intern got 656 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: fired for it maybe, but but but somehow they put 657 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: it up on air. That is amazing, Although I do 658 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: wonder if it was just so obvious it was undeniable. 659 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: The man said it himself, and so they have to 660 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: get that out there. But but just the whole idea 661 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: of the fact check, which is very rarely factual. It's 662 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: always just based in political opinion. You know, the left 663 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: always points to Fox, which which as far as I 664 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: can tell, has left wing voices on it, much more 665 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: balanced than c ann or MSNBC, even though it certainly 666 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: tilts right. Word, but you wouldn't ever see Fox having 667 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: a running chiron just contradicting a candidate of either party. Yeah, 668 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: and look, I think there are reasonable criticisms one can 669 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: make a Fox. You know, earlier the question was given, 670 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: how do we know the right is right? I certainly 671 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: would not advise someone go listen to Fox News and 672 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: whatever they say, believe it. Certainly, go educate yourself. Go 673 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: read on the other side. You know, I try to. 674 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: I try to. Unfortunately, at anything resembling objective journalism is 675 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: almost disappeared, and so you have to view things almost 676 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: through the lens of all right, let's get partisans on 677 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: both sides. So for years I used to read every day. 678 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: I would read the Washington Post on politics and I'd 679 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: read National Review, and the two side by side would 680 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: give you some modoc of that. Sorry for like a 681 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: daily wire is a great place to do so. I 682 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: don't mean to be pitching competitors, but but you know, 683 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: read folks on both sides, and to be honest, the 684 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: truth is usually somewhere in the middle that people are 685 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: pitching something, but getting educated on both sides helps then 686 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: to assess what's right and what isn't. No, that's right, 687 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: And of course, I mean, of course the Daily Wire 688 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: is the one news source in all of history that 689 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: is perfectly balanced. Give you. I'm joking. I would get 690 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: this question off and they'd say, how do I get 691 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: an objective perspective? And I said, forget about that idea. 692 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: Just read both. You want to read the Daily Wire, 693 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: it's good, and then go read I don't know, the 694 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: Huffington Post or Box or something and figure out where 695 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: their truth lies. Have I ever told you my idea 696 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 1: for running a newspaper. I don't think so. So I've 697 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: thought about this for a long time. Like if I 698 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,479 Speaker 1: woke up one day and they made me the editor 699 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: of the New York Times, and you know, they just 700 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: fired the New York Times, So here's the job on 701 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: me soon. Yeah, but but actually they fired the editorial 702 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: page editor in the New York Times. More on the 703 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: news side, I think, oh if I was if I 704 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: was editor of either, I think what I would do is, 705 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: rather than purport to be objective, I would consciously try 706 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: to frame a dialectic. I'd consciously try to frame and say, 707 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to have conservative voices and 708 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: liberal voices, so on our ed pages they're going to 709 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: battle it out, and you're gonna get to listen to both. 710 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: And by the actually the Post used to do that. 711 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: They used to have some pretty good conservatives, and they 712 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: still do it more than The Times does. But but 713 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: instead I would just embrace the dialectic and say, you'll 714 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: be smarter and more informed if you listen to smart 715 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: conservatives and smart liberals and assess it. And here's the piece. 716 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: On the news media side, I'd do the same thing 717 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: on news stories. And where a lot of the bias 718 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: of journalism comes in is what stories get green lit, 719 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: what gets decided this is news and this isn't so. Frankly, 720 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: if if I owned a newspaper, if I was the 721 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: editor of a newspaper, I'd probably have a conservative news 722 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: editor and a liberal news editor, both with the authority 723 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: to green light stories. And I'd allow some of that 724 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: same dialectic and have real conservatives and liberals, so they would, 725 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, and you would get hopefully in that clash, 726 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: you'd get somewhere closer to truth. That's a great idea, 727 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: and it's funny you mentioned that The Washington Post used 728 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: to be a little more balanced. Back when it was 729 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: I would read the Washington Post certainly much more than 730 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: I do now. It's a great idea, but certainly no 731 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: one in the mainstream media is going to take that advice. 732 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: It's too good, it's too insightful. Oh now, Michael, let 733 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: me let me do something that will surprise you. And 734 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: and this is connected to the last two questions we've gotten. Yeah, 735 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to defend the owner of the Washington Post 736 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: and defend big tech, which is excuse me, sir, where 737 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: have you put Senator Cruz. We gotta get the Senator 738 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: crews back here. I don't know if you saw, like 739 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: protesters set up a guillotine outside of the home of 740 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos. And and look, I've got lots of criticisms 741 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: of the Washington Post. I think Bezos big Tech. I 742 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: have lots of criticisms, though Amazon has been less noxious 743 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: than some of the other players. But there are lots 744 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: of reasons to criticize Bezos. But setting up and I'm 745 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: not talking a mock guillotine, I'm you know, I mean 746 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: the the If you haven't seen the video of it, 747 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: it is chilling. It is, by all appearances, a full 748 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 1: working guillotine with a razor sharp blade. And you know 749 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: that's just deranged. I mean, that is a terrorist threat. 750 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: And this is outside, as I understand it, his personal home. Um, 751 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: this is another manifestation of of the mob that we're seeing. 752 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,720 Speaker 1: You know, you don't get to threaten people with murder. 753 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: When you put a guillotine in front of someone's house. 754 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: You're not saying I disagree with your views. You're saying 755 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to murder you. The reason you're putting it 756 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: there is you're threatening to put their head and neck 757 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: into it. And that, Um, I just think that was deranged. 758 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: It absolutely was, And it's it's funny I had the 759 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: same impulse I suppose that you had. Nobody has been 760 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: tougher on big big tech than you have. Senator. You've 761 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: you've really gone after them, when a lot of your 762 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: fellow Republicans have not. But you look at that and 763 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: you say, guys, that what are you doing. I can't believe. 764 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,439 Speaker 1: I can't believe the left is now making me defend 765 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos and Amazon Washington Post. But but that's where 766 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 1: they've put us. You know, it's a it's a strange 767 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: moment right now. No one who is who is alive 768 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: has lived through a political moment like this. A question 769 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: comes in from Tyler specifically about the election results right now. 770 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 1: An estimated eighty to one hundred million people are going 771 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 1: to vote by mail in the election. I assume a 772 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: huge number of them are not going to make their 773 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: ballots hit the deadline, so they're going to come in late. 774 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: We are very likely not going to know who won 775 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: the election on election night. So his question is what 776 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: happens if the election results are delayed beyond January twentieth, 777 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: President Pelosi or does Trump remain in office? Or what 778 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: are we looking at? There's a lot of uncertainty on that. 779 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: I think number one. On election day, if the race 780 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: is at all close, you're going to see delays because 781 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: of mail at vooting. But you're also going to see 782 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: litigation Bush versus Gore. Look, I was very involved in 783 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: litigating Bush versus Gore twenty years ago. I was a 784 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: young campaign staff or young lawyer working for the George W. 785 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Bush campaign in two thousands, So I was down in 786 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: Tallahassee as part of the legal team during Bush versus Gore. Yeah, 787 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a very real chance this year we'll 788 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: see a Bush versus Gore in ten twenty thirty fifty jurisdictions. Wow, 789 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: it's been reported that Biden has already hired six hundred 790 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: lawyers to contest elections. And what that means is, if 791 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: it's at all close, there's a very good chance. We 792 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: don't know the answer. If you get to January third, 793 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: it could be thrown if if there is uncertainty, it 794 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: could be thrown to Congress, which means the House of 795 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: Representatives chooses the president, and it means that that the 796 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: Senate chooses the vice president. Now here's what's interesting. It 797 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: doesn't work by simple majority in the House, so it's 798 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: not whoever has the majority chooses the president. It's rather 799 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,439 Speaker 1: each state gets one vote, so each congressional delegation gets 800 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 1: a single vote, So California gets one vote. And right 801 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: now in the current Congress, I think the number is 802 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,760 Speaker 1: that they're twenty six Republicans ates, that Republicans have a majority, 803 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: that delegation, twenty two that Democrats have a majority, and 804 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: two that are tied. I think it's Pennsylvania and Michigan 805 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: are tied. The reason they can Dems can still have 806 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: a majority is they rack up huge numbers in states 807 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: like California and New York, so they have more than 808 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: two hundred eighteen, but they don't have a majority of 809 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: the states. Right. What that means is there's a real 810 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: incentive if Democrats have the majority to prevent it from 811 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: going to the House. And there is an argument that 812 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: come January twentieth, if if Congress hasn't exercised its authority 813 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: to select the president select the vice president, there is 814 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: an argument that they are are putting forward that on 815 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: January twentieth, Donald Trump and Mike Pence cease being president 816 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: and vice president, and third in line of succession is 817 00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,919 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House. And if they 818 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: would lose otherwise, I fully expect the Democrats to do 819 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: everything they can to prevent any constitutional mechanism for having 820 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: a Republican president. So I fully expect them to try 821 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: to delay to January twentieth and argue that Nancy Pelosi 822 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: has now become president. That is, and we are in 823 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: such uncharted legal territory, constitutional territory, these questions, if we 824 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: get there, are going to be hotly, hotly contested. Senator, 825 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,720 Speaker 1: when I saw this suggestion of President Pelosi floating around 826 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: social media. I thought, oh, this is just one of 827 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: those hokey, crazy things that goes around social media. I 828 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: kind of dismissed it. And now you've made me feel 829 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: so so much more worried about this election in November. Well, 830 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: I will say, if we get to Congress choosing the 831 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: president and vice president, we will be doing verdict live 832 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: every night, just as we did an impeachment. And I 833 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: hope and pray that does not happen. I don't wish 834 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: this to become a nightly midnight report from insanity, which 835 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,879 Speaker 1: which is what that would be. So so let's let's 836 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: hope we don't find that out. But look, Democrats are 837 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: already setting the foundation for, in their view, one of 838 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: two outcomes in this election. Yeah, either they win, which 839 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: they might, or the election is illegitimate. Yes, yeah, if 840 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins, if Republicans win, the odds are now 841 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: one hundred point zero percent that Democrats and the media 842 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: are going to say the election was stolen from Yes, 843 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: that's right. And you know you saw recently Hillary Clinton said, 844 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: under no circumstances should Joe Biden concede. I mean, it's 845 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,959 Speaker 1: This is the political equivalent of the rage mob. It's 846 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: we will not accept will of the people. We won't 847 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 1: accept the outcome of the election. And you know, there's 848 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: a weird Freudian projection. Remember a couple of weeks ago, 849 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: there was a little news boomlet of all these Democrats 850 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: and reporters saying, will Trump accept it if he's lost? Right? Right? 851 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 1: And the absurd thing is, look the ones who still 852 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 1: don't accept it. Hillary Clinton still think she's she's president. Ye. 853 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: They haven't accepted the last election, and they're making very 854 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,359 Speaker 1: explicit they don't intend to accept this one either, and 855 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: so and their tell is they accuse the other side 856 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: of doing it. And I think that Hillary Clinton is 857 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 1: actually just saying out loud what a lot of Democrats 858 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: are thinking, because do you remember in twenty sixteen she 859 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: said Donald Trump is said he might not accept the 860 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,359 Speaker 1: results of the election. This is a threat to our democracy. 861 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,879 Speaker 1: And then what happens. Hillary is the one who doesn't 862 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 1: accept it, and it's not just her. Stacy Abrams still 863 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: thinks she's the governor of Georgia. That's Governor Abrams. J Michael, 864 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: he does governor. I want to be respectful. Former President 865 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 1: Al Gore still believes he won in two thousand on 866 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: that recount. This seems to be a trend with democratic politicians. Um. Well, 867 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: if there's no such thing as truth, and this is 868 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: actually a Marxist concept, yeah, um, then you can dictate 869 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: truth is what you say it is, and and and 870 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: and and that's um when you have a compliant media. 871 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the CNN image of buildings on 872 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: fire and they call fiery yet peaceful protests that that 873 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: that that that's like hot yet cold, like I'm sorry 874 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,479 Speaker 1: that those are antonyms. You don't get to have two 875 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: things directly contradictory other than one of them is your 876 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: political narrative. Yes, yeah, that's right. And there's also this 877 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 1: idea that they know the science of history actually another 878 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: Marxist concept, that you know, they're on the right side 879 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: of history. And so if you know how history is 880 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: supposed to go and something happens to get in the 881 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: way of that, well clearly that's illegitimate by definition. This 882 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: actually raises a question from Daniel and maybe maybe we'll 883 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: end on this question because it will give us so 884 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: much to stew on until our next episode. Do you 885 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: think that the Democratic party has become so radical that 886 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: the party will split into two completely separate parties. You know, 887 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: the BLM organization is behaving in some ways like a 888 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: political party, he asks, you know, will there be one 889 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: party of the liberals and one party of the leftist socialists? 890 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: So I actually don't think that. I think what we're 891 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,720 Speaker 1: witnessing is a leftist takeover the Democratic Party. Yeah, and 892 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: there are no There are no moderate Democrats left. They've 893 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: been driven out of the party. There used to be. There, 894 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: used to be conservative Democrats. I mean, I mean, point 895 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: me to a conservative Democrat today and look some of 896 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: it is. We talked about this before, how Democrats are collectivists, 897 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: they believe in government power, they believe that they are 898 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a herd discipline. When do you see 899 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: Democrats disagreeing on a vote in the Senate? Yeah? Pretty 900 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 1: much never. Yeah, where's Republicans? We do all the time, 901 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: for good and for ill. Sometimes we're frustrated. How come 902 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: we can't have the discipline and cohesion they do. I'd 903 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 1: rather our problems of individualism the Republican Party. Splintering is 904 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: always a potential threat. Yeah, the Democratic Party. I think 905 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,920 Speaker 1: one or two things will happen. If they win, I 906 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: think you will see the leftist take over the party completed. 907 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 1: That essentially, Joe Biden has ceded the party to Bernie 908 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and AOC. You know, you look 909 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: at President Trump did a nice job tonight about talking 910 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:02,240 Speaker 1: about the the the Biden Bernie Manifesto that they wrote together, 911 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: laying out the most radical socialist agenda of any major 912 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:13,000 Speaker 1: party nominee in modern times. Yeah. So I think the 913 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 1: if the Democrats win, the left completes its takeover. And 914 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 1: by the way, one illustration of that, and this goes 915 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: back again to the the sort of origin story of 916 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: a verdict. When we voted on impeachment in the Senate, 917 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: every single Democrat voted to impeach. And you remember when 918 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: I in particularly when Joe Mansion. So people will point 919 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 1: to Joe Mansion or Doug Jones, Doug Jones from Alabama, 920 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: Joe Mansion from West Virginia. They're both pointed to as oh, 921 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: they're conservative Democrats. We're both voted to convict the president. 922 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: And I had interesting reactions. I had different reactions to 923 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: both of them. So when Doug Jones voted to convict, 924 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 1: that didn't surprise me, actually, because I think Doug Jones 925 00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: knows he's gonna lose. Tommy Tubberville, Republican dominee is going 926 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: to beat him, and I think Dougs decided he's going 927 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: to go down and ablaze a glory and be a 928 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: liberal hero back home. And if Biden wins, he'll be 929 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: in the cabinet, right and and so he knows he 930 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: ain't winning in November, and he's just let's go. Um, 931 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: Mansion is different. So Mansion, you recall, voted to confirm 932 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: Brett Kavanaugh. Yeah, that's right, and it was one brief 933 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,920 Speaker 1: moment of apostasy and it probably reelected Joe. Um, he 934 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: got reelected that cycle, and that vote may have saved 935 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: his bacon. When he voted to convict the president. My 936 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: reaction I sit next to David Purdue in the Senate floor. 937 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: I turned to David and said, huh, Mansion's not running again. 938 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: He's done. And and that's how I interpreted that vote. 939 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: Is Mansion. And Joe's never really liked the Senate. He 940 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,799 Speaker 1: was governor before. He liked being governor a lot more 941 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: than being in the Senate. Yeah, but I think when 942 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: he voted to there the sort of last vestiges of 943 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,879 Speaker 1: dissent in the Democratic Party. He just decided to heck 944 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: with it. I'll vote with the rest of them, because look, 945 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: in West Virginia, impeaching the president is extraordinarily unpopular. If 946 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 1: you're actually looking to get reelected in West Virginia, that's 947 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: a dumb vote. And the different scenario in terms of 948 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: the future of the Democratic Party if the Democrats lose, 949 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: if Trump is reelected, and I think there's a real 950 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: possibility of that, obviously, I hope that happens. Yeah, I 951 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: think Democrats will lose their mind even more than they 952 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: have now. I think the press will lose their mind 953 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: even more than they have now. But you might see 954 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 1: in the wake of a Trump reelection some sort of 955 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 1: reassessment in the Democratic Party and a resurgence of more 956 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,400 Speaker 1: reasonable voices. There will at least be some Democrats that 957 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: will have the thought, holy crap, being wild eyed socialist 958 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: and standing with a mob burning our cities to the 959 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: ground may not be the most appealing electoral platform. If 960 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: they win, they're not going to say that, but if 961 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: they lose, they might say that. But I don't think 962 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: it's going to be a splittering party. I think it's 963 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: going to be a battle for who controls the party. 964 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 1: That's right. You always hear this is the most important 965 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 1: election of our lifetimes, and in some ways it's always true, 966 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: because you know, things progress down a certain path and 967 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 1: certain dangers can become more pronounced. But you know, we've 968 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: talked on this show, on an earlier episode about what 969 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: could happen if the Democrats win, particularly if the Democrats 970 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: take the Senate. You know, you could have Puerto Rican statehood. 971 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: You got a dcase statehood. You got to the end 972 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: of the filibuster, you have a real surge of a 973 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: democratic power grab. Really puts the stakes into perspective, really 974 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: puts the conventions into perspective. And Senator I know that 975 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: you could stay up all night and keep talking and 976 00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: then show up for work, you know, at seven am. 977 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: I am not like that. I cannot do that, So 978 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: I have got to I think end it here. We 979 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: will have another episode soon. I hope that all the 980 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: people who are watching right now on YouTube please head 981 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: on over. 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Thank you for us 990 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: staying up and giving us insight into all the questions 991 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: that I can't answer. Pleasure as always, and in the meantime, 992 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. This 993 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz is being brought to 994 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 1: you by Jobs, Freedom and Security Pack, a political action 995 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, and candidates across 996 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: the country. In twenty twenty two, Jobs Freedom and Security 997 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Pack plans to donate to conservative candidates running for Congress 998 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 1: and help the Republican Party across the nation.