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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House to works dot com. Hey, welcome to podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen. I've got something

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Speaker 1: to it to share that might be a bit embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when I am killing time, when I'm just bored

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Speaker 1: and I you know, just can't muster the energy to

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Speaker 1: even read a book or try on the television, I

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Speaker 1: go to the internet and I take personality quizzes. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's embarrassing, Molly. Well, I've taken some embarrassing ones in

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Speaker 1: my time, like what you know, what designer shoes are you?

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Speaker 1: I mean like and things like that, Yeah, like what's

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Speaker 1: your perfect city to live in? And you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: they seem right, and sometimes they seem like a ten

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Speaker 1: year old wrote them. But it's always a good time.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to learn things about yourself that you can

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Speaker 1: only learn by aunts in questions. Yeah, and I love

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Speaker 1: clicking clicking clicking on the internet. Yeah, it's a good workout. Well, Molly,

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Speaker 1: this podcast was just tailor made for you. Then it

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Speaker 1: was I had a good time this week learning all

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Speaker 1: about myself. Yes, because Molly and I both explored something

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Speaker 1: called the Aniogram personality test, and I've never heard of

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Speaker 1: this test before, But essentially, you answer some questions. You

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Speaker 1: can take a free sample tests of this on the

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Speaker 1: internet and there are nine possible results that you can get,

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Speaker 1: and your result will tell you about your personality, both

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Speaker 1: its strong points and its weaknesses. Right, It's supposed to

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Speaker 1: describe more the why we do what we do based

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Speaker 1: aniogram is represented visually by a circle, and then there's

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Speaker 1: ani agone. Right, It would be helpful to have a

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Speaker 1: visual for this, because it's kind of part really describing

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Speaker 1: it well at all. When you go online to take

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Speaker 1: your sample test, you'll see the circle on the nine

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Speaker 1: points and the and the shapes right, and those all

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Speaker 1: now this this might take a while, But why don't

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Speaker 1: brief description of all the possible personality types. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: the first personality type is UH labeled as instinctive or perfectionist,

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Speaker 1: and this person's core motivation is to be right, good, correct,

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Speaker 1: with that example, how there's good things with all of

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Speaker 1: you'll take us all the way at the top. Yes, yes, Molly, Now, Molly, Well,

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Speaker 1: ancient times Pythagoras Uh. The concept of the nine personality

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Speaker 1: I'm this number and leave it at that. It really

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Speaker 1: fully who you actually are. All right, Christen, So we

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