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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back George Norri with Sydney Kirkpatrick. Award winning

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Speaker 2: documentary filmmaker and best selling author. Sidney Kirkpatrick is a

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Speaker 2: graduate of Kent's School in Kent, Connecticut, Hampshire College at Amherst, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 2: and NYU Film School. His latest book, Edgar Casey an

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Speaker 2: American Prophet, is the definitive biography of Edgar Casey, who

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Speaker 2: was best known as the Sleeping Profit in Sydney. First

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Speaker 2: of all, thank you for keeping the memory of Edgar

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Speaker 2: Casey alive.

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Speaker 3: Now it's all students of the Casey readings, all researchers

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Speaker 3: had you to thank for informing keeping your listeners so

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Speaker 3: informed about this Edgar Casey.

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Speaker 2: It's exciting. I mean, he's one he was. He was

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Speaker 2: one of a kind.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't he one of a kind? And you on your

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Speaker 3: show in years past, you know you've had both of

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Speaker 3: his sons, Edgar Evans Casey and Hugh Lynn Casey, and

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Speaker 3: his grandson you've interviewed. I mean, that's really remarkable and

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Speaker 3: it's helped so much to carry the greater message forward.

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Speaker 2: How did he get his incredible ability Sydney, Well.

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Speaker 3: You know, you could trace it right back to a

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Speaker 3: childhood incident when he was playing baseball, you know, in

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Speaker 3: elementary school. He got hit in the back with a

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Speaker 3: baseball and it seemed to knock him unconscious. But the

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Speaker 3: strange thing about it was he could carry on a conversation.

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Speaker 3: He foretold who would win the next presidency. He revealed

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Speaker 3: things about his teacher, his elementary school teacher, that a

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Speaker 3: student his age would have no right to know. But

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Speaker 3: you know that was not explored. He seemed to get better.

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Speaker 3: The next morning. He actually diagnosed himself, told a position

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Speaker 3: how he should be treated. And it wasn't for many

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Speaker 3: years in his twenties when he was hypnotized that this

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Speaker 3: strange third other you know, came back. So he was

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Speaker 3: hypnotized and again could carry on conversations, and yet at

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Speaker 3: the same time he couldn't be He was impervious to

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Speaker 3: sort of being shaken out of it. At one point,

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Speaker 3: physicians testing him with stick needles in his skin. In

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Speaker 3: one egregious case, they pulled one of his fingernails out

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Speaker 3: and he didn't as much as flinch. He was like

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Speaker 3: he was in a deep, deep coma, and yet he

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Speaker 3: could answer questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he explained to us, Sidney, the method he used

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Speaker 2: to come up with these incredible things that he talked about, Atlantis,

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Speaker 2: the Pyramids, health issues, all kinds of things. What was

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Speaker 2: his methodology?

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Speaker 3: Well, it evolved over the years. At first, you know,

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Speaker 3: he was getting hit by a baseball, knocked out, and

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Speaker 3: then he was hypnotized. What made all of this so

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Speaker 3: remarkable was that he internalized the process and it evolved.

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Speaker 3: He learned to put himself into this deep trans state.

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Speaker 3: And once he was in this trans state, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it really was incredible. Hard to believe. You know, he

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Speaker 3: wasn't your eight hundred psychic phone line in speaking vague,

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Speaker 3: ambiguous terms, but specifics name states, locations, and in terms

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Speaker 3: of the medical readings, which is perhaps even the most remarkable.

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Speaker 3: He talked about specific body parts, blood type, and temperature.

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Speaker 3: You know, he would be given the name of George

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Speaker 3: Nori and he would essentially go organ by organ through

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Speaker 3: your body, diagnosing the illness. And again it's the specifics

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Speaker 3: that made such a big difference. Blood type, body temperature.

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Speaker 2: Well, they called him the Sleeping Profit. Was he alert?

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Speaker 2: Did he know what he was saying?

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Speaker 3: No, and he had to be told afterwards what happened.

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Speaker 3: And it became easier once the system got more defined

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Speaker 3: and they could hire a stenographer. But for the first

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Speaker 3: you know, several hundred readings, it was a crapshoot, and

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Speaker 3: it was a sort of trial and error process. Say,

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Speaker 3: to see what worked like, you had to learn to

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Speaker 3: ask specific questions to him. You couldn't ask these generalizations.

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Speaker 2: He died in nineteen forty five Sydney. It was way

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Speaker 2: before we had social media, way before television made it

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Speaker 2: But how did the media handle him? Was he well known?

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Speaker 3: At various points in his career. He was well known,

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Speaker 3: and the New York Times did the massive front page

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Speaker 3: spread which made him a sensation at that time. And

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Speaker 3: he grew up in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, which was a relative

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Speaker 3: people would eventually visit Hopkinsville and try to get these

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Speaker 3: trance readings from him. In charge for what he did,

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Speaker 3: he believed it was a gift from God and then

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Speaker 2: I still use his remedies for so many different things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just every time I want to be

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Speaker 2: able to just prevent something, I read information on Edgar Casey,

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Speaker 2: like almonds to fight cancer and stuff like that, and

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Speaker 3: Yeah. This was recently brought home to me because I

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Speaker 3: Oh? Just in the last year and a half?

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Speaker 3: And I was actually in a hospital bed for a

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, said, I didn't know that, But you know.

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Speaker 3: What told me through not only my devoted wife Nancy,

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Speaker 3: with whom we collaborated on education American prophet, but we

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Speaker 3: used Casey remedies. And you know, before that time, I was,

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously more than familiar with his life story,

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Speaker 3: the compelling elements of the life story, but I never

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Speaker 3: had to rely on the medical readings themselves as we

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Speaker 3: did this time. And and boy, I swear it saved

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Speaker 3: my life.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. How soon did things kick in when you

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Speaker 2: started doing his uh remedy recommendations?

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Speaker 3: Uh It's it's difficult to actually pinpoint times because uh

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Speaker 3: so many of the recommendations were building up your immune system,

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Speaker 2: My previous guest is an expert on Egyptology, and his

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Speaker 2: name is Robert Schock, and you know, he's been to

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Speaker 2: the Pyramids, he's been to the Sphinx, and he brought

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Speaker 2: up you and Edgar Casey. Casey talked about the hall

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Speaker 2: of Records at the base of the Sphinx, and they

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Speaker 2: have indeed found an enclosure down there. They haven't gone

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Speaker 2: in there, but they have found some kind of structure

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Speaker 2: where Edgar Casey said it was.

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Speaker 3: Yes, amazing, And I mean, well, that's what's so spectacular

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Speaker 3: why Casey is so important to study, because things, especially

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Speaker 3: medical things he said, and what he said about reincarnation,

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Speaker 3: has since proven out. Obviously you can't prove reincarnation, but

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Speaker 3: spectacular time to study Casey because science and medical science

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Speaker 3: especially is catching technologies catching up to these readings, and

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Speaker 3: there were witnesses to these readings and then eventually full

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Speaker 3: time stenographer. So today we have you know, some fourteen

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Speaker 3: this incredible record with which to study. Nancy and I

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Speaker 3: often bemoan the fact that we were we came in

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Speaker 3: late to the Casey work that Casey had already passed,

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Speaker 3: and we would never get our own reading.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: However, as we continue to study this, we realize it

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Speaker 3: now is the time to start seriously. You can accomplish

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Speaker 3: research in ways that were impossible to do in Casey's lifetime. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: Plus Casey had his firewall built up, and they didn't

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Speaker 2: How accurate? Yeah, how accurate, Sidney? Do you think he was?

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Speaker 3: Most of the time They easily in the ninety percentile.

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Speaker 3: But you know what's you know, things that again were

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Speaker 3: you know, the skin condition. Casey very early on said

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Speaker 3: Another I mean the most recently is light therapy. Casey

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Speaker 3: all kinds of new evidence suggesting that indeed Casey was

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Speaker 2: Sydney, How did Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe come into

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Speaker 3: You know, there's so many famous people, are important people,

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Speaker 3: Certainly Elvis Presley, uh was a big student of Edgar

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Speaker 2: Edgar Casey was it your book.

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Speaker 3: How about Marilyn Monroe, Yeah, well Marilyn Monroe started using

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Speaker 3: beauty aids recommended by Casey. You know, the case He

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Speaker 3: like the Bible. You know where Casey would say, well,

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Speaker 3: the Bible, as well as reincarnation, astrology. Glorias Swanson, the

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Speaker 2: Confirm this story I heard said they a long time

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Speaker 2: ago that Edgar Casey was once getting on an elevator.

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Speaker 2: The door opened and he saw a group of people

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Speaker 3: That's fascinating. Yes, Hugh Lynn, who was with him that day,

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Speaker 3: Edgar Casey's son, often shared that story.

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Speaker 2: And apparently the elevator door shut in the cable snapped

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Speaker 3: You know, that was that was It was not entirely

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Speaker 3: Casey was at a diner and waitress serving him put

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Speaker 3: don't go. And you know, she's like, what are you

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Speaker 3: talking about? Don't go? And he said, you're thinking of

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Speaker 3: She was confused and like, who is this guy? And

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Speaker 2: And why is he telling me not to go?

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Speaker 2: she would if she could have died right, unbelievable. Lots

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Speaker 2: the life of Edgar Casey and the latest book I

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Speaker 2: have from you was written and published in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Edgar Casey an American prophet. But I remember having you

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Speaker 3: There's a go yes, uh you on the debut of

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Speaker 3: that book. Uh. We We've also written true tales from

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Speaker 3: the Casey Archive, which is a compendium of the people

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Speaker 3: of really interesting insights because sometimes you you well, it

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Speaker 3: this is for an artist in Casey's talking about art

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Speaker 3: And that's what you know Casey is talking about in

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Speaker 2: And Casey always didn't listen to his own advice, did he.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was obvious, now you know, he was all

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Speaker 3: it's the additives put into cigarettes. Uh, you know that

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Speaker 3: He struggled his entire career. I mean, and and you

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Speaker 3: can understand why, you know, on a personal level, when

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Speaker 3: you you know, when he entered into trash trans he

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Speaker 3: So you know, he was always fearful of harming, uh,

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